Just Do It: The Power of Action

Episode 15 look at us being consistent, Benny boy. At the 15, baby, you know, consistency is king and I am the king and you are the queen. Let's walk that one back a little bit. You are the prince and I am the king. No, no, come on. That's not how it's going to be. Got it on Amazon. You can get anything on Amazon. I'm proud of us because we recorded last week and here we are recording this week. I know because we want this. It's not like something like this isn't daunting. We want this to work out but I enjoy doing it. I like this a lot. You just like hearing my voice though you. No, I actually think we should start having some more guests. Oh, shit. I don't have a bandwidth for guests right now. I just feel like the way that we record where it's like, hey, let's do one. You know, I think at some point this will evolve into bringing guests on. Yeah, but they got to go through a test. The gauntlet. The gauntlet. We had to send in a video of them talking about nothing for five minutes. Sell us this pencil. I could honestly in a previous life. I think I was a salesman and I think I would be the best salesman. You give me a product. I'll sell it right now. So if anybody's listening, try me. I can't wait for you to move back to Charleston and I'm going to put you to the test. I'm going to record you video and we're going to post it to the socials. And I will say Charleston people are different birds. So I might struggle down there. I need to put your money where your mouth is and I'm going to go around recording you trying to sell the dumb shit. What would be the first thing? Fake money. That would be a great thing to sell in Charleston. I just got an email for prop money because sometimes we use prop money for our videos. So that would be a tough sell in Charleston. Fake money. Yeah, we'll see. We'll see. Before we get too deep into the weeds here, I do. I want to start these out with a shout out. First of all, to anyone who has been listening to these, we can't thank you enough. We really appreciate it. This kind of started off like Ben said, we're going to hit record anyway and just talk because that's what we do and our wives are like, why are you guys always talking? But if you've been listening to these, we really appreciate it. And then a special shout out to Mike McGee because he consistently texts us after each episode, usually the day after he's like, that was a great one, guys. So we appreciate you, Mike. Mike is Mr. Consistent and it's always, it's never soon as it goes live. It's always like a day, a day after. It's the day after before noon. I think he always catches it. So whatever he's doing in that time, he makes sure he's listening to us. He doesn't miss. Thank you, Mike. You rule. And then also we have that, I'm still paying $20 or $30 a month for that 800 number, 833 dad shows. So if you are bored and you got questions or you're just thinking about dad life, whatever maybe call that number, it goes right to a voicemail. We don't, we don't monitor it. We don't pick it up live, but it prompts you to leave a voicemail. Let us know what you're thinking about. We'll bring it up on this, this here podcast. Yeah, and if you're looking for a breakout moment to maybe get on the pod or your singer, songwriter, and you want your opportunity to be heard, you got two guys that are going to listen to it. You just opened it up to singer and songwriters. That's a bull no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no. I will see if he actually listens because he's capable of doing it is the one go West one, Mike Medved. If he sends one, we'll know he listens to the podcast. We should hire him out to do a little intro for us, guys being dads. Do you think it would be like a rap or a slow ballad? I don't know, now that I'm thinking through that, I don't, I don't think that's a good idea. I think it should just be like piano and soft music. No, I think we should mix a beat though for the intro. Yeah, we're like Dracula, that kind of style. Yeah, whatever. I mean, that's a great disagree, but we'll figure it out. I've never even watched Dracula. I always got, I was scared of him because I was like, I had a blood disorder as a kid, so I had a hard time clotting. So the thought of a guy that, you know, he would kill me. Yeah, I don't know, man. You everything okay over there today? Three coffees in Adam, three coffees in. Nice. Good for you. Just straight right into the veins. That's wait. Awesome stuff, Adam, but good news is you got your little Land Cruiser live on YouTube. How's that going? Yeah, we got some cool things happening. Put out another YouTube video. It was, I drive an old 94 right hand drive Land Cruiser and we made a YouTube review video about it and just figured, why the heck not? And it's doing some numbers. It should hit 10,000 views by probably the time of publishing this recording. So that's kind of cool to see. I mean, when you're recording like car, is cars your sauce? Do you like talking about cars? Do you like seeing cars driving cars? Is that your thing? No, I mean, not necessarily. I full transparency. Putting myself out there on YouTube was not something I sought out to do when I started writing the dad day newsletter two years ago. It just seems like it's a lane worth going down and could generate some revenue at some point. So I don't mind doing it. It's been fun and it's definitely pushing me out of my comfort zone, but it's very weird seeing yourself on camera. And then there's a lot of pressure talking to that damn thing. You have no idea until you're looking at a camera like, oh my gosh. So I think we'll tie that back into some of the juice of the episode today. But yeah, it's been cool seeing the YouTube take off. We have another go west episode coming up. And I think in my mind, it was always, we're going to tell like longer-form stories, which we'll continue to do. But this car stuff has been kind of a fun little detour. But yeah, we're dropping another go west. I think it'll be live by July 24th. This won't be cool. It features this guy, Tony, who I met in Austin, Texas a few years back. And he's deep into the golf space. So this will be a fun one. I'm excited about it. He's also a dad, obviously. Yeah, little do you know when you're talking to that camera, I'm on the other side on a Sunday morning shirtless in my boxers, Eaton, granola. That's what you're talking to, Adam. Just remember that next time you record. But I do have a question for you. During that video, you had two offers on your car. My question to you is, if you knew the person is giving you an outstanding offer, but they were going to paint it neon and lift kit it and mod it out, would you sell it to them? Poof. I mean, if the price were right, I don't know that I'd care what they did with it. I mean, if I put like, I'd have to be like, I'd have to make substantial money to sell that one. And then I really regret selling my 86 and we talk about that in the video where it's like, I should not have sold that. So I'm going to hold on to this one for a while. But if someone came along and they were like offering 30 grand more than what it's worth, like, yeah, I'm going to sell it. You know, so you're emotionally attached more to money than to the car. No, not emotionally attached more, but you know, money talks, baby. So if I know what I paid for and if someone came and like offered 30 grand more than what I paid for it, I think I'd be an idiot not to sell it like I could probably go by another sweet one. You know what I mean? Yeah, I remember when you were you were deep in the Facebook marketplace just looking for old cars at all times. I remember that back in Pittsburgh. Yeah, I feel like it could start legit like a like a land cruiser business because I feel like I'm good at picking out cars. Speaking of that, I need you to find me a South Carolina for runner. Because I don't want to buy it up north because it's going to have all that rust. So I'm going to throw you on that duty. Okay. Are you going to first buy it? Yeah, I will be your first client. Do not give me good deal. But here is one percent commission on final sale price. Now, how about some brotherly loan? We're out here. We just moved to formula. You know, the bill is just keep getting higher. Adam. No, it's cool, man. Another thing on the day day front where launching are Austin. I don't know if I'm going to keep calling it built for more, but we're going to launch our Austin multi day experience. Hopefully next week, it's going to be for October 13 through 15. I know a couple guys have been asking in our Slack group about it. It's coming. I will say this. You're coming to big dog. Sure am October, baby. Austin is always just one of the coolest cities. I don't know why. When I was there, I was like, this is cool, but looking at all the brands, the people. the things that you can do there. It's such a cool. Like, I don't know. It's a top three or for me in this country. Nice, man. Is it top three for you? Thanks for sharing that. I really like Austin. I feel like it's a bit landlocked for me. But I think it's really cool. I don't know that I'd put it in my top three. Dang. Yeah. You really put me on the spot here. Well, I'll sell the trip if you need me to. No, it's a great. I love Austin. It's great. Don't get me wrong. I'm just saying, would it be one of the top three places where I'm like, if I'm going somewhere, I'm going Austin? Bro, I would smoke you in sales. You are the worst salesman. I know. You're making me sound bad. And no, I love Austin. I think it'll be a great backdrop. We're moving on. We're moving on. This place you jag off. I was just showing my sales skills and you just proved to me that I could outsell you any day of the week. I don't think you could, but let's move on. Austin's great. Keep it weird. Let's go back to our man, Derek Grant. Yeah. Another thing we're going to do moving forward on these episodes is something that's landing. This week for you. And I don't know what it is with that guy's podcast. I said it before I said it last week, I think like I'm typically not into motivational podcast or just that kind of vibe. This guy, Derek Grant, man, I've been listening to him on my runs and I am just vibing. So we're going to do something new for us. I'm going to play a clip from the episode that I sent you. It's titled Fear Not Be courageous. I mean, come on with it. Let me play this clip and like see how it goes. You've always required courage always. The first day of school, you need courage. That first relationship, you need courage. The relationship that you knew wasn't working anymore, you needed courage. The first business that you ever started, you needed courage. That first retreat that you ever ran, you needed courage. That first website that you ever put together, you needed courage. To ask that person on a date, you needed courage. The first speech that you ever gave, you needed courage. The first child that you've ever had, you needed courage. The first investment that you've made, you needed courage. The first time that you looked at yourself. And you said, I see you. You needed courage. So the reward will always come after the courageous act. I mean, come on, dude. Bro, my pants are shorter right now. I am fired up. But I'm listening to this on my run. Obviously, yeah, you need courage. But it's just, it's been so relatable listening to that guy for me because a lot of this stuff, like he even talked about like when you built that first website. Bro, if I look back at the first website, I built, I remember one of my employees at the time just like laughing at me. I was, I was learning Photoshop. And I think I was trying to make an orange like the fruit in Photoshop. And I remember me, like, what the hell is that? And dude, I was just like learning how to make these layers and do different things. And I think I was taking a tutorial on whatever it was at the time. And like, it looked like absolute ass. But it's like, even just doing something as dumb as that, like I needed, it wasn't dumb. It was just like, took some courage. Just be like, hey, I'm going to put this out there. And yeah, so that's kind of what's been landing for me this week is listening to Derek Grant. It's been just like this cool mine shift change on, you know, just setting like continuing to set the bar higher. What's anything landing for you? That, I mean, I've been listening to Derek as well. We read this book, "Cheers your enemies wisely." And I think it ties into this because there's like two, in that book, they, they talk a lot about like, you know, picking something that a lot of people go pain driven. So like something from your past, picking an enemy that you're chasing because this kind of stuff, I think there's like two wrinkles to it. Like the Derek Grant stuff is great if you can motivate yourself or if you can execute yourself. So like there's a next layer of motivation that I think needs to happen is like that repeatability. Like I can get motivated different than Adam. I know Adams definitely consistent. Like Adam can show up with that motivation and actually do the thing every single morning when he doesn't want to get out of bed. For me, I need like a little bit of an enemy. Like somebody that might have talked down to me or, you know, you're not making that team in high school or, you know, you're not doing as good as as something else and a coach said something to you. Like that type of motivation works very well with me and you're playing that remind me of that. Choose your enemies wisely because when you get to the level of where your enemy is or where you thought your enemy was, like you have to go find a new enemy. And I think that's where Derek talks a lot about of like smashing ceilings. Like you might be on the first or second floor and there's five floors and you have to continue smashing ceilings to get to that next floor. And I think it's very important. And I think what keeps showing up in the Slack channel and everything is people are looking at their careers where they're at. I mean, look at Dad Day right now. You would have never even at the beginning of the year. You got a YouTube channel podcast doing events like even reflecting on the last year. You could have said, I'm good with the newsletter and that would have been done. But like you continue to smash ceilings to go to the next level. And I think a lot of times when you think about going to the next level, it's just doing the fricking thing. And just saying, I don't know. I don't have a business plan for this. I don't have a strategy for this. But I do know something good will always come out of doing something. Yeah. Now I'm with you. And I think that probably just like leads right into kind of what we were talking about. But before the main meat of this episode, but before we go there, we got to talk about ethos life insurance. Oh gosh. Are you trying to sell me again on it? Do you have life insurance Ben? No, you talked to you said, how many weeks until you pull the trigger on life insurance? You have a kid, you have a wife now. Like why aren't you signed up yet? You gave me a tap on a call this week. I've had life insurance a long time. And we yes, ethos is paying us. But at the same time, I do feel like it's one of those important things to just have. We're going to drop a link. We don't have a code to give you, but we're going to drop a link in the description. So if you don't have life insurance, go over to ethos, check it out. You don't have it takes 10 to 15 minutes and you're signed up. That's it. You don't have to go to the doctor. You don't have to get blood work, anything like that for a healthy male who's 40 years older. So they're estimating around 50 to 60 dollars a month for a million dollar policy. So if you don't have life insurance, don't sleep on it. We want to bring it up. We want it to be bringing it up if we didn't think it was important. So Ben, we're going to put you to the test next week too. We're going to have to have a few free ethos. How about you put your money with your where your mouth is? If I sign up, because I'm under 40, if I sign up and it takes longer than 15 minutes or it's more than 60 dollars yet to pay for my whole year. I'm in. Sign me up. I'll do that. I'll sign up next week. Next week it is an ethos. We're putting our money where your mouth is. If it's over 60, Adam has to pay for my first year. Don't let me down ethos. All right. Anyway, yeah, you brought up a really good point about stuff that's been landing for you. And what I'm seeing, I've gotten a few emails from guys this week. I think it's come up in the Slack community just like kind of getting over that ledge of like, hey, I want to put something out there and I don't know where to start. I'm feeling like I'm in a rut. And I think that's kind of the beauty of these conversations between you and I. Because some weeks the conversations are going to be out. Things were going through with our kids, our wives, whatever. And I don't know what it is in the last few weeks. Just again, I get so many emails a day and I just got one this morning. But like a guy I don't know from anywhere. And I think it's so cool. It's like him reaching out. He found dad day. And he's just like, hey, man, like I'm, I don't know what's next. Like I'm in a rut. I'm bored. Like how do you focus on something that you're passionate about? Like what do you, you know, what do you recommend? So it's, it's just, I don't know what it is. It's cool getting those kinds of messages because you and I are going through this on a daily basis. Like we don't have it figured out at all. You know, I think it's, I think it's really easy to think about the outcome of where we want all these things to go. But the reality is like you just got to keep showing up every day. Like I don't know because of X piece of content that I put out like what that's going to, you know, what's going to come from that? It's just, well, I got to do that. And it kind of sucks in the moment sometimes. But stop focusing so much on what the outcome is going to be and just put out stuff that you're, you're fired up about. Yeah. There's, there's two parts that that I really like. I think we can kind of talk about this too. Like dad day podcasts, whatever media company. It's all bootstrapped. It's not like either of us come with like hedge fund kids that like just got all this money and we have this run way to get started. Ass is on the line for everybody. You know, you're putting your time and your sweat into it in hopes of a return. But at this, at the end of the day, what I love most about this podcast is we can be ourselves. We don't have to follow the script. We don't have to do any of this kind of crap. And it's like, and then we can just hit send on it. We don't even have to edit it. Like we just go raw with the podcast. And I think that's a like great learning lesson of just like sending it because sending it will allow, I always say, like when you're coming up with an idea, I'd rather have something written on the paper than a blank sheet of paper. So just write it because then I can hand it to someone and see what their feedback is. Blank sheet of paper, nothing. They can't give me any type of feedback. So I think it's just like a lot of people can get caught up with like these silver bullets or whatever they're called, not silver golden bullets, whatever it is, out in the world right now where it's like, oh, you can get here in six months. It's like from what I've learned, from bootstrapping pretty much everything we've done, is consistency will outperform, I would say, like a six month kind of quick turnaround that doesn't have a solid foundation at the end of the day. Like foundation and doing it properly, well, I'll perform like some of these quick to market kind of products. Now the good thing is, is like the skillset me and Adam have kind of developed throughout the years, is like we have skills, many skills across the board to get a business life, but that took years to get there. I'll never forget like one of my first photo jobs was with you and we were meeting Antonio Brown, we talked about it on the last episode. But we needed to shoot his new apparel that we created and worked with. And he did not really want to do a shoot. He just had us come over his house and there's some funny stories there. But we had this small window outside when it just started snowing properly, or not properly, it just started snowing and he wanted to catch football outside. The lighting was awful as a photographer, you're like, oh, you need to control the environment and get a great shot and you should do dust or dawn and all this crap to get perfect lighting. It was pitch black with street lights and a guy catching football that wouldn't like stand still and it snow's falling. And I remember from that shoot, that was one of my favorite shots of him that we've ever taken. And it was just because you were there, you're showing up and you gotta just do something. You gotta do the thing. And I don't know where I was going with that, but I remember a lot of times just with our stories. It always came on the back of, well, we don't know what the result's gonna be, but I know if we do something, there's always gonna be someone or something to come from it. - Yeah, well, I think too, like, Yuri Antonio, like bringing him up is like, kind of that whole idea of paralysis by analysis. And I think where we've, I don't know, I'm not considering us like, to have reached any like level of success or anything like that. We're just doing the thing, you know, where, I think a lot of people think on like, well, I can't, I can't send that, I can't write that, I can't go talk to my boss, whatever it may be. And it's like, stop thinking so much. Like you could think until you're sick, like just go do the thing. Like what I've learned throughout my entrepreneurial career is that you just have to execute. Like everyone's got ideas. I mean, it's been, when I started my first business, I had no idea what I was doing. I opened up a brick and mortar retail location. I remember the first customer coming in. I didn't even have a point of sale system in place. I just didn't even know. I didn't know what I didn't know. And it's like, you know, he comes, the guy comes in, he's got these old VHS tapes, film reels, and he's asking like, how I'm tracking inventory. And I just so happen to have an iPad in front of me. And I'm in my head, I'm thinking like, man, I look like such an idiot. I didn't tell him that like, yeah, yeah. And I just made it seem like, hey, we track it through this, this year I've had. And it was just like, it was one of those things, man, where you just got to figure some shit out on the fly. And everything that we're working on now, even with that day, it's been a combination of all the things that we worked on over the years. So like that Antoni or Brown Shoot, for example, like that just kind of sets you up on like, well, we did that thing. Cool. What can we do next? And then the next time you're around a pro athlete or whatever, it's like, yeah, he's just a regular guy, you know? So I don't know. I think just like leaning into not overthinking stuff so much. Everyone's trying. And even for me on a personal level, we talked about a little bit about the YouTube videos. Like looking back at, we did the video on Ineos, Grenadier. I hate like, I didn't like that video of myself where I'm like looking back and I'm like, I don't know. This is my first time really doing a YouTube video and I could look back at parts and then read the comments for people talking shit because I mentioned that I'm six feet tall like five times, you know? It's just like, who cares? Like, there are always gonna be haters. And I think the fun part about even doing this podcast and things that you and I talk about on a regular basis, it's just like seeing through that bullshit. Like we're just real authentic guys. And I think for me personally, when I see someone, not gonna mention any names of online coaches, but you know, these guys that are promising, hey, you know, I'll have you to hear in six months. It is absolute bullshit. Like do not work with, if that, don't work with that kind of person. It's not gonna work for you, you know? Like lean into the guys that are like doing it the right way. I just, we're not, we're not here to sell anyone on anything. We're just having a real conversations around what we're going through. And I think as long as you're being true to yourself, you're gonna, I don't want to say win, but it's like, you're just gonna feel better about what you're putting out. And yeah, just feeling, feeling authentic, you know? I feel like a lot of those coaches at the top, like I would say the top 1% that are probably showing up in everyone's feed, the Gary Vee's, I will throw names out there. I actually think Gary Vee's brilliant because he talks at a very basic level before with the next prompt, or do we shut it off there? Like I might be like, "Ap, this is good enough." And I think that's gonna be the different differentiator moving forward and just with like somebody starting something new, is bringing your own personal style and taste into it. Like is the most important part? Me and Adam could write a script right now that whatever we think is like, you know, the fatherhood podcast where we're like, "Hey, how many diapers you changed just like Adam?" And like, "Are you gonna barbecue this weekend?" But at the end of the day, the dads that we're talking to are like, "Hey, I'm freaking in a rut right now with career. I don't know what to do. I feel pressure inside me to continue being who I am and chasing things that I believe in." And I think that's what isn't talked about enough is getting over the start line. Like the start line is very freaking scary. There's a lot of anxiety. When's that thing gonna fire? When do I go? When do I do all that? It's just like just freaking go. Yeah, I know. The assumption here is like this, this even podcast, like it's not gonna be for everyone. And there are probably plenty of parenting podcasts where they are talking about diaper changes and how to swallow. And like, that's good and well. I think the premise of this is like, we all know we want to be good dads. Like we want to be having this conversation. Like, don't be a shitty human, don't be a shitty dad. Like that's step one. I think when you get these other things in tune, like career passions, it just makes being a better husband, a better father that much easier. But I don't know. There probably are gonna be days we're getting into the weeds of like, "You know, my kid, my kid just turned eight yesterday." And it's like, "Well, holy crap." Like that went so fast. And I could talk about that at length and things that I learned about. And you know, I get to do that through the newsletter. So yeah, there are like very much like parenting specific tactics blogs, books, all that stuff. I think this is more, you know, focusing on the things that we're going through. And then just like the trickle down impact of it, because it does have an impact. If you're on a rut, like it's gonna carry over into like how you're treating your kids. And so yeah, I think just putting it out there, like, "Hey, we're going through this stuff on a regular basis as well." But instead of focusing so much on the outcome of, this is where I want dad day to be in five years. It's like, "No, I'm gonna keep putting in the work. I'm gonna put out that next piece of content." Like for example, I have to do a, I'm gonna do a gear review video on these both flex adjustable dumbbells. And it's like something I've kind of been putting off. And it's like, "Yes, son of a bitch." Like no matter what, I'm gonna do this thing. It's gonna be uncomfortable. And it's like, I don't know, man, it seems like so trivial even saying it out loud. But it's just kind of like, you know, who cares? Just put it out there. Like someone's gonna talk shit. Mmm, whatever, take issue with it. It's like, I don't know, man, just a real dude here, you know. No, I think, I mean, that's like I said, a trait you've always had is you have sent it on a lot of things. And you constantly try to send it. And if there's any advice, and I'm gonna be taking a lot of advice from this, it's just like, there's a couple of, like, do the things that fill your cup. And don't be afraid of what anybody else thinks, because at the end of the day, like, I always talk about your o-bit. But like, how do you want your o-bit to be, you know? I wanted to be something that like Ben always tried to, like, was an amazing father, and always showed up to support his family. Like, that's the most important thing. That other stuff, like, you know, founder of Dad Day and all that, won't most likely be there, but not as prevalent as who you are as a person. And if you can let that stuff that you're at your core is very important, shine more. I think it'll help you just get it. get past those hurdles and just think about yourself, not what anybody else thinks. - And Ben had a great life insurance plan through ethos, life insurance. - Yeah, tell them if they can sponsor my funeral, I will, if I can get my funeral cover. I guess that comes out of the one millionaire. - You bring a good point too. And I'll just, like, final thought for me on that and I featured in the newsletter today. I had lunch with a guy by the name of Will. We met doing a dad day run club here in Charleston, had lunch the other day. He's about to have his second and he sent me a text last night and he's like, "Hey, here's some content for the newsletter." And it was just a screenshot of a text exchange he had with another dad and it was Will reaching out to this dude. And the guy was like taking a back that he reached out, like, "What made you reach out, man?" And he was just like, "Hey, man, I just wanted to check in and like see how you were doing." I think that is such an easy, low lift strategy. Like if you're trying to figure out what to do next or you're just like, "Just reach out to someone." Like could be someone you haven't talked to in a while or maybe put your neck on the line or reach out to someone new and just be like, "Hey, I'm a fan of your work." Or, "How did you do that?" Or, "You know what I mean?" Like, it's just this idea of like surrounding yourself with people that you wanna be like. And it's like, I don't wanna say like winners. Winners is the wrong terminology, but it's just like, you gotta, you're gonna be influenced by the people you're hanging and spending time with. And so, I don't know, reach out to someone. You know, say, say hi to someone new this week 'cause I don't think there's growth without you doing that. And you and I have been talking about like, "Wow, we need to get out and shake some more hands." Like we're just so, everyone's in their own little remote bubble for the most part. And it's easy not to, it's easy to just stay there. Like, "Ahh, not gonna go out tonight." Like go have coffee or a midday beer with someone. Like just mix it up. You know, you gotta do that because you kinda need those like new memories. You gotta get the brain firing. You know, it's so easy to get in a rut. - My mom mentioned this and she's a psychologist. So she knows more about this kind of stuff than me, but she always said like, you know, tunnel vision gets narrower if you don't change tunnel vision. Like, and you can get a lot more narrow in into the weeds of a situation you're in. So it is good to have disruptors. Meaning, you know, going out for dinner when you know it doesn't fit the routine or reaching out to that friend, even though you know you're slammed and slashing, you wanna do tonight. I think disruptors and shaking up your soul a little bit, especially when you're in a rut. Or doing the things that you think you shouldn't do, but you do it for yourself is just so important. 'Cause I will say, everybody out there is going through something. And to whatever level everyone's experiencing it at different levels. So you can't really judge where they're at because it's affecting them differently. But at the same time, like just always thrive to be better tomorrow. And let's wrap that up. - Love that. I love that. Yeah, I mean, I think that's good, man. And we went, this might be our longest one yet. So we'll see how it lands. Where we're at 34 minutes right now. If you're a dad and you're about to soon to be dad, make sure you head over to dadday.com, subscribe to the newsletter. We send it Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Appreciate you listening to this. We'll see you next week. And if you're out there, reach out to someone.