285: Jump Scare!

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My experience was I started seeing like, you know, a little bit of a difference. A little bit of cautionary words on the internet after I'd already inserted it. So I did in fact like dig it out a bit of myself. So it, so I didn't have as bad of like cramps and stuff. Yeah. I was like uncomfortable the next week. It was interesting. If you want to try it, if you're feeling a little swampy, maybe talk to your gyno first. Yeah. I think that. Boric acid. Yeah. It's boric acid. There's some other brands that have other things like. Well, I think it's. I think it's really good for people who do get like. BV. Yeast infections or BV pretty often. Or like you're prone to that. Yeah. And it'll like stop it before it can come. That was the big thing on Reddit. Again, not medical providers. This is not medical advice, but. Yeah, no, but if this is something that you've never heard of, then that's like a chronic thing that you struggle with. Yeah. I remember my friend Julia talking about if you get UTIs a lot, taking D-mannose when you start to feel something weird. Interesting. All, all the time. All great. Okay. But, you know, look into it. Talk to your provider just to be sure. Because we had bad experiences, so we're clearly not saying just do it. Yeah. No, don't just do it. This is, you know, not one of those. Yeah. Proceed with caution. You know, it could, it could feel like today's theme if you don't proceed with caution, because it could feel like a jump scare. First I'm hearing our theme. Jump scare. And you did have a little bit of a jump scare there. Whoa. Yeah. When you hear jump scare, what do you think? I guess, like, if, if I see an X on like a sign in LA, that's a jump scare. Yeah. Like, why are you here? Or like if I, you know, I'm scrolling Instagram and somehow an enemy of mine pops up doing a, doing a little bit. Yeah. Ah, jump scare. That's exactly what the theme is. Or if I see one of my friend's X's. Ah, jump scare. Yeah. Internet slang for any sudden, shocking, or unexpected, unexpected event that startles you in daily life. Mimicking a horror movie shock. Yeah. I mean, it feels that way. We have been sleuthing for good stories. Bailey and I really, we went hard on this theme. Yeah. This is going to be story heavy. It's going to be story heavy. It's going to be crazy. It's going to be fun. And we will be continuing it over on Patreon. And again, it is new bonus episodes, new stories, different people, different people, different reactions. Is it also ad free though? Ad free. It's not just ad free. It's also brand new episodes. It's brand new episodes and they're ad free. I don't put the regular weekly episodes over on Patreon ad free. Right. I think some people are getting confused about that. I've seen some comments lately and they're like, why would I pay for Patreon to just get it ad free? And I'm like, no, no, no, babes. It's new. It's bonus. It's exclusive ad free. What is, is it three a month now? Three bonus episodes a month. And it used to be three a month. It used to be much less. And maybe moving up to four very soon. So get involved. Also now when you do it, because you've been doing Patreon for so long, you get like a back catalog of like how many episodes. A lot. Like tens, decades of them. A lot. Five years of bonus content now. Yeah. There's a lot of stuff over there. So if you want more of the jump scare theme or more irreversible X or more of this, more of that, come on over to Patreon. We've got some really good bonus episodes right now. So without further ado, let's dive in. Yay. I'm going to jump in. All right. I'm jumped. Okay. Up first for us here. This is coming from r slash relationship advice titled. My boyfriend wants us to do a blood pact instead of getting engaged. Me. Just kidding. I've 24 female been with my boyfriend, 27 male for a little over three years. We've talked about it. We've talked about marriage a lot. And lately he's been hinting that he's ready to take the next step. Last weekend, he told me that he had a surprise planned. I thought he was going to propose. Instead, he shows me two small glass vials, a random ass blade and rubbing alcohol. He said that he didn't believe in marriage because quote, the government shouldn't define commitment and that wedding rings are just expensive jewelry. He told me he wanted us to each slice our hands, mix our blood together in the vials, seal them and wear them as necklaces. Or if we get enough blood, put it in a vase. Oh my God. He called it a blood pact and said it would mean more than any wedding ceremony because quote, our blood would literally be connected forever. I laughed because what the fuck? But he was so serious when I told him absolutely not. He said, if I was scared of cutting, myself, he would do it for me or we could use my period blood. Ooh. I said, not just no, but fuck no. And he got upset and asked why I would rather sign a piece of paper than make a real commitment. He said, if I truly loved him, I wouldn't be afraid of something symbolic. I told him it wasn't about being afraid. It just felt really strange to me and honestly kind of unsettling. Now he's saying I'm disrespecting his beliefs and treating something that's deeply meaningful to him like it's ridiculous. A couple of his friends have even messaged me saying that I'm close-minded and that society has conditioned me to think marriage is the only valid commitment. Part of me feels like I should have taken him more seriously instead of laughing. But I also feel like asking someone to do a blood pact instead of getting engaged is a lot and odd. What do I do? He didn't even like soft launch this concept. To her at any point. Like, what do you mean? Out of nowhere, you're there with a knife and two vials. I don't know. I think when people talk about, you know, their problems with marriage, I think that's totally valid. I think though, but I think we're conflating these two things of like, you don't respect the way I feel about marriage with, and you also have to do this blood pact. You know, those are two separate things. And I don't think she's disrespecting his views by not wanting to either cut. The period blood, at least he's like, It's like not, you have to cut yourself. was a little more of a inclusive option it's nice to hear the inclusive option yeah yeah i appreciate that it's just gonna go to waste anyways but you know it's not this was what machine gun kelly and megan fox did right oh they're not the only ones that have done blood packs oh didn't you hear about angelina jolie and billy bob thornton i didn't yeah that was i would say that's the most iconic blood-packed blood vial necklace i've heard about and like it actually like was big in the rumor mill and it wasn't even a blood vial it was a photo locket that contained a single drop of each of their blood and they would wear it because he's kind of cute i'm honestly i'm not 100 no on this if it was like a diabetic you know when you prick your finger for a diabetic blood glucose track yeah if i can just and then blood fingerprint on a locket a little bit cute are we going off the i don't know i don't know i don't know that doesn't change my opinion on this you know this random woman having to do it no if she doesn't want to do it she's not into it point blank done weird but if someone came to me and they were like mikaela i think that this would be really amazing like think about it you know let's really sit on it i'd be like all right sure yeah what the hell well let's also get married though that i'm like i don't think the blood pact would really solidify the commitment to me because i don't know if you don't like me anymore you're just gonna throw the vile maybe vase of my blood away it was crazy if we get enough of it a vase also i don't think i don't know yes the blood lives together forever but it's not like their blood is in your veins or your blood is in their veins it's just mixed in a jar it's just mixed in a jar yeah this has got me really curious about the history of blood packs and like how they came about yeah and like the only thing i'm seeing is like it was really big in the ages it's appeared in a lot of historical texts but that's gonna be a rabbit hole for another day like back when angelina jolie did it that was probably really cool but now that machine gun kelly and megan fox have done it now i would i'd hesitate because of that i honestly i would bet you that megan fox was inspired by angelina jolie yeah like i bet that's where the inspo came from i feel like if you're subtle about it it's okay it's like shoving it in everyone's faces like we wear each other's clothes we wear each other's clothes we wear each other's clothes we wear each other's blood around our throats in like a necklace you know what i mean like really yeah like thinking you're doing a thing with it yeah do you want to see the lockets that angelina jolie had i'd love to i'm bob i'm a hundred percent for that for some reason i'm i'm super down with the locket actually i don't know why i never thought i would be yeah but even them they got really criticized to where people were like they're walking around with jars they're acting like vampires like they got some serious heat that's it right there i mean that's really cute and it was a romantic gesture for them i think it's romantic i do think it is maybe this is the poll we're hitting the poll right away on this one this i'm so curious lock it romantic or not and like would i yeah the finger prick is very different from a vial i think because i don't want to yeah i don't want to see the sludge one little on a locket that's closed yeah because like technically that's their dna that's their whole entire being pricking your little fingers yeah with a little i think why it's cute to me is it reminds me of like a needle a childhood thing too like you know how like kids will do little blood promise blood brother blood pact things yeah it's like very innocent the way they do it so i feel like there's a way that it could be romantic and innocent for adults yeah i think it could be but it doesn't replace what a proposal would feel like and an actual marriage like yeah that to me feels like a little bit of a a cop-out and i do think his behavior coming in after where it's like i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't like my friends are calling her now like everyone needs to get on my side that she's disrespecting my beliefs and she's closed-minded like that's where i'm like well also you didn't have a conversation about it sir like you do have to talk about it you can't i don't know he's like she's closed-minded but he never even tried to open her mind he just tried to shove something in there yeah and that's it was very manipulative from the start like him saying if i truly loved him i wouldn't be afraid of something symbolic like i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't but you're physically cut like it's not just symbolic we're physically doing it yeah it's not an idea like if you want symbolic and easy accessible we could do a hand fast ceremony what's that you like hold your hands together and they do an intricate knot and like little words yeah that is cute it's really cute yeah i just find it weird again very dramatic with the disrespecting his beliefs yeah i agree where did you find these beliefs how'd you get here i don't know it sounds like all of his friends might have them too though like they're all kind of on board with this thing it feels like yeah i'm i'm genuinely i'm gonna need a lot more info on this one top comment though you know it's bad when your post sounds like the start of a true crime documentary i was worried about that and it's so funny because genuinely the moment he said period blood was okay it made me a little bit less worried about this being violent but him being like i could cut it for you i wouldn't want to do that to someone else's like no hand no as far as i'm going is tweezing justin's eyebrows and maybe pop into zit right or if you have like a splinter i'll oh i'll find a way to get that out yeah of you would you suck um snake venom apparently that's a rumor i don't know if that's accurate but like would you be willing to suck some snake venom out of your partner yes i could be motivated by love to save another's life yeah of course and honestly you put snake venom lip gloss on so what's the what's a little sucking i do don't you wear snake plumping do you have plumping lip gloss no oh well i like a good plump and sometimes it's snake venom are we talking about the movie holes the classic movie holes where the red kissing bandit puts on snake venom on her lips do you know who all right you know i have not seen holes in ages oh okay um sorry i don't that's like just such a tangent so yeah no there's there's like a bunch of different lip glosses that have snake venom on them so i don't know if that's true but i don't know if that's true in them as like the classic sephora lip glosses you'd even say yeah two-faced lip injection extreme lip plumper i used that in high school so you have used snake venom gloss yeah yeah that's so interesting okay yeah so what's you know no i would of course helping your person out uh next comment down i would probably do that for a stranger to be honest really well i guess it's a very kind is like on an arm of course yeah foot foot would feel less icky to me i don't know if that's true i don't know if that's true i don't know if that's true like someone's like a man's chest or something like that feels so intimate like you know what i mean it feels like so intimate a foot's like at least far away from you i will say as someone that just finished love island uk version me too so so good such a good season there was a lot of like sucking of toes from certain contestants u.s was way worse u.s was so much more sexual i can't watch the u.s like the food challenge no but yeah i didn't there's a lot of toe sucking but okay next comment blood packs don't stand up in court of law like a marriage license does just saying this guy's full of bs i would find myself a better more mature partner this guy is just a wanker i fully agree i also still want to say i think it's valid for people to be like not wanting to get married as long as they're always open and communicative about that with their partner and like don't sort of like blindside them later on i guess but yeah so i wanted to come off like we're you know saying that no i whatever floats your boat i think not getting married has a lot of incentives as well it's hard to not be married as a couple in like the society that we have now as well like it's just like built for married couples so it does cause a lot of extra hurdles to not get married for sure i love hey have your wedding have your ceremony but like whatever paperwork you file on your back end it's not really anyone else's business yeah so there's there's a lot when you get into it like taxes oh my god can be a nightmare can be a nightmare yeah yeah if you get married like sometimes it helps sometimes it's an incentive and then other times it's like not good a couple other comments people are like disrespecting his beliefs laughing emoji like galore and then someone responds back is he pagan part of a vampire cult does he practice witchcraft and wizardry op i know nothing about you guys and your interests but this does not sound like a safe or remotely sane relationship this is something that kids who have watched too many adventure movies think is a good idea and that kind of brings back to your point of like it feels somewhat childish like childlike in a way yeah i'm interested to see if op replies at all like is this totally out of character is this completely out of the blue or was is this sort of in line with what she would expect from this guy but it feels it feels like it was a random she was expecting a proposal yeah absolutely and i will say this is giving real account from everything i'm seeing they are a part of the five-year club they don't have an insane amount of karma so it doesn't seem like they're karma farming with this story they've got a lot of different achievements regularly active they've got posts in r slash monstera talking about their monstera plant which looks absolutely beautiful gorgeous that is a lot of people that's a lot of A lot healthier than what mine looks like. look like. So it is giving very real to me and just seemingly, I don't know, a judgment issue on his behalf. We don't have an update. I'm following the account and we will see if anything comes of it. Wow. Well, if he didn't act so weird after, I would have been rooting for them, but I don't know. I don't like the way he handled it. I don't like the way he went about it. No, not at all. Let's see what you think of this next one and how they handled it. This is coming from r slash am I overreacting? It's r slash a i o though, specifically. And it's titled caught him spooning his cousin last year. Now this, am I overreacting? Last year. So this wasn't an ender. Okay. Okay. I'm sorry. Me, 30 female, him, 29 male. 12 months ago, we visited his two female cousins for a weekend and stayed at his house. He was like, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't at their place. Several things happened that weekend that I didn't like. He hand fed his cousin, Laura, 27 female, a gesture that he had previously called romantic. Her sister, Jenny, 35 female, clung to him in the pool, cornering him and tickling his stomach question mark beneath the water. Both girls were braless the whole time we were there. And Laura even showed her boob at one point saying it was itchy. Oh, okay, girl. I got to find a better way to do it. I commented on his hand feeding her. He was upset for hours after. I didn't even mention any of my other issues. The second night, Laura's daughter, Laura, my boyfriend, and I shared a California king bed in that order. Her daughter slept on the end nearest to the wall. I slept on the end nearest to the door. Boyfriend is usually super clingy with me at night, but not this night. At some point, I woke up because I didn't feel him near me. I felt around in the darkness and found his hip. I reached to wrap my arm around him, but I was met with resistance. Laura's ass was against his crotch. They were literally spooning. I pulled him towards me and he moved easily. He seemed pretty knocked out as we drank a bunch that day. I could barely stay asleep after this. And every time I woke up, I woke up to this. One of the times I pulled him towards me and she scooted back towards him again, this was our last day there. I was livid the whole day, but I couldn't bring myself to utter to boyfriend why I was upset. When we got home that night and we were alone, I told him why I was upset. He cried, said he knew nothing about it, said he had no memory of it, said that she had never come on to him before, said that he was sorry because he felt like he cheated on me. We worked through it, though he later said he was worried that I wouldn't want to visit her anymore because of it. Worth mentioning is that he was so upset that he didn't want to visit her anymore. Worth mentioning is that he previously told me that where he is from, it's not uncommon to see cousins dating. The incident resurfaced for me last night when I saw this picture of him and his sister, 27 female, that made me feel similarly icky. Him carrying his sister, his arms wrapped around her bottom, and her legs wrapped around his waist. He said, that this is normal for his family. I told him that I'm not comfortable with it. He accused me of not wanting anyone to touch him at all. I admitted, I'm not okay with intimate areas being touched, even indirectly, and you knew that from the beginning. That's why it was such a big deal when you were spooning with Laura that night. He got upset that I brought it up, which triggered me, so I asked, quote, since this level of intimacy with other girls is normal for you, does that mean participant in the spooning that night? He got super upset and said, quote, I'm not telling you again that I don't remember it happening. I don't even think it really happened. He clarified that he has always thought it was a lie. What? That hurt. To be accused of lying about something like this really has me upset, and I don't know why. Maybe it's hypocritical of me as it was a response to me essentially saying he was lying, but it makes me want to just split. And on top of that, the pic I saw last night has me feeling nauseous. I'm just not comfortable with that level of closeness between him and other adult females, related or not. Am I overreacting about this? Any of it? I am so glad that this girl came to Reddit. Like, please, please read the comments on this post, girl, because I know that you're going to hear some stuff you need to hear. Also, yeah, it's so funny for him to be like, oh, so you just don't want me to touch any other women? Yeah, I don't. Yeah, I don't. We're together. Yeah. No, I don't want you to. Yeah. What? That's what I'm saying. Why is that hard to grasp? Like, what the hell? Would you be okay if I started acting like this with my family? Yeah. My guy friends? Yeah. Even? Yeah. No? Okay, then I think you should understand why I'm uncomfortable. Also, what? Was he the only guy on the California king bed? Like, it was a full family affair. I feel like he should have been, like, on the outer side with just his girlfriend next to him. Yeah, so it was Laura's daughter on the right, Laura, boyfriend, our writer. So four people in the California king bed. And her daughter was there. What the hell? It's just nasty. No, this family is scary. They could, like, make a scary movie about this family. I don't know. Like, I understand you don't have space, and your family, it's not that weird to share a bed. But the fact they kept going to cuddle and spoon, and OP would, like, pull him away, and then you'd just see her backing her ass up back into his crotch. Like, yuck, yuck, yuck, yuck, yuck. I would probably go crazy. I would wake his ass up and be like, go, you're getting on the couch. Like, you're, go. This is not okay. She kept saying she pulled him closer. I'm like, I would run, personally. I would get out of that bed. It's like, I would scoot him back to me, and then, you know, they'd get back together. I'd scoot him back to me. I would honestly, after the second time it happened, I would be very curious if I switched positions with him if she would cuddle up on me. Like, is this just her sleeping, and she's backing that ass up? Or, like, is this, like, they know what they're doing, and they're not really fully asleep. You know what I mean? Yeah, I don't know. If they hadn't had the, like, other flirty moments in the hot tub and everything, and it only happened once, I could see someone, you know, in their sleep just, you know, reaching. And she did say he's usually very clingy in bed, so he is used to reaching for someone in bed. I could see that potentially being something you can get over if there's nothing else weird. And it really seemed like a mistake, but I don't think in this scenario it was. Do you want to see the picture of him and the sister? Oh, my God. She posted it? Sure did. Is it my birthday? Oh, you're joking. You are lying and joking. You are lying to my face. That is so romantic. Describe it for the people. I mean, how can I, like, really, his arms are scooping his butt. It's like the notebook. It's like when you reconnect. No, it's literally, it's like when, like, a guy comes home from war, and he, you know, they run in the airport, and they, you know, it's, like, very romantic. It's very, like, essentially perched. She perched the leg. wrapped around, and, like, she's. And also, like, he's looking up. Like, you can't see his face, but you can see that his chin is, like, tilted up toward her. I mean, it's kind of, I'm very curious if it's, like, buried in her boobs, given the positioning. Like, that's breast level. Oh, my God, Morgan. It's very intimate. I will say, like. You're onto something with that. Her butt and, like, crotch is sitting on his stomach, so at least it's not, like, like, crotch to crotch, but it's still. Right, but it's almost more romantic the way that it is. I would not ever, ever, ever in a million years. No. ride my brother like this. Like, I don't even think I would get a piggyback from my brother at my old age. No, I think if we were, like, on a hike, and I broke my leg. I would have to break a leg. Sure. to get carried by a sibling. Yeah. Like, there's no freaking way. I don't know. I think you're underreacting. Yeah, no, I would say, like, the cuddling and then kind of being, like, gaslit about it. Like, I feel like this is a very weird family dynamic and not one that I would want to continue to be a part of, especially, like, you're 30. Yeah. Like, move on. Prime of your life, baby. He's worried that she's not going to want to see his cousins anymore. Like, I don't want you to see your cousins anymore. What are you talking about me seeing your cousins? I don't want you going there. Uh-uh. If you're going, I better be there, actually. You know? Like, this is such a, like, messed up thought to have, but it's, like, there's so many people out there in the world that, like, you know, your partner could have his head turned in many different ways. The last people you want to worry about are the cousins. Both cousins and the sister. The sister. Yeah. Like, damn. Damn. I'm just. You gotta run. You got to run. I don't know. Yeah. I don't understand how this happens. You hear stories and you're, like, Did you never have any sign? Like, can this happen to anyone? can you think your person is so normal and then a random thing like this happens you're like what the fuck this is why you got to meet the family early on scary you got to meet the family early on because if you meet them two years in and you love this person and you realize their family dynamic is weird as fuck cuckoo yeah you like you're then you're two years in yeah what are you gonna do what are you gonna do so top comment on this one i went to an abandoned mental asylum over the weekend and this seems fitting for your situation dot dot dot dot dot and they share a picture of a like graffiti wall at the mental asylum and it says i love my cousin cousins by choice lovers by oh no cousins by chance lovers by choice that'd be hilarious if it was cousins by choice lovers by choice yes you I don't know cousins by chance lovers by choice so do we think this was like a romantic outing or do you think that cousins were sent to a mental hospital and they kind of you know like cemented their love in the wow people are really declaring their love in ingenious ways this episode yeah we've got graffiti on a mental hospital and blood vials yeah apparently it is um the northern state asylum okay so a lot of people recognize it in the comments they're like shout out northern state so it's like a very popular but abandoned yeah next one down i was on their volleyball team go lobotomies wait i think people are like volleyball team no now they're just being silly oh god they're just being silly also oh gosh then someone links a youtube video of brad paisley on one of the late night shows releasing a song called first cousins it's it's obviously like a joke but we do have a couple other comments from people someone just asks are you 100 sure that they are cousins some people lie and opie responds unfortunately i am 100 certain i explained somewhere else that i talked to his mom and grandma pretty regularly and and is he normal with the mom and grandma i'd like to know like is he free for all female relatives or does he have like an age limit oh there's another comment here this doesn't seem like the sort of thing you'll be able to get over think about it can you see a world in which he remains close with his family and you don't feel uncomfortable something may happen he may genuinely not see an issue with it personally i would find it icky and i don't see him cutting off his family because of it it's awful but logically it's over yeah it's like i guess there are families that do that out there i'm like thinking of tom brady kissing his son on the mouth that was a big thing when it that was a big thing but even that is less weird because it's like a parent and a very young child yeah and that was still like weird but to me but it less yeah i don't know i feel like that's not something i'm going to be able to comment on until i have kids but i'm like i have a really hard time with like hugging people like i feel like i'm a bad hugger i don't even know what to think about that but op does respond to that like logically it's over and they go you're right you're so right because that's literally what i said to him after it happened at first that if he were ever around her without me i would be constantly imagining what might be happening and it'd be wrong to cut off family especially for this uh can't one of us just change ugh i mean him specifically probably should be the one like what you want you want to change into a person who doesn't mind if your partner like gets his cousin's ass backed up on him and keeps pulling her back no and we do have another post here from op not necessarily an update but another post coming from r slash am i wrong titled is it wrong that i'm jealous of my boyfriend's sisters and how like were these posted around the same time i believe yeah four days apart she's locking in this week four days apart decision by sunday yeah and like hey i think the first post we read obviously problematic enough like i'm not sure if this one's gonna make it better he constantly says his sisters are too beautiful and when they post pics on their stories statuses on facebook or whatsapp he screenshots it often he'll send the pic to me saying isn't she beautiful that alone isn't an issue but it makes me jealous because he doesn't send them random pics of me saying isn't my girlfriend beautiful he used to post his sisters and his exes on his status and story he's never posted me on his status and story even though he takes pictures of me all the time but to be frank he hasn't posted on socials since a few months before we started dating he called them baby and my love and my beautiful queens all the same things he calls me wait his sisters i thought he meant the i thought it meant the exes at first and then i surely not it's giving sisters i told him i didn't like him using the same pet names for me i'd rather him just call me by my name he got mad initially but has since started calling them other pet names i am generally secure about my appearance but i have felt less than beautiful in this relationship for a while he says i don't have eyes for anyone but you and i believe him um yeah i just it just goes on like this bone feels like my do i stay or do i go point because knowing that he finds me attractive and is proud of me would make it easier to be patient enough to work on the rest there's way too much to work on here yeah girl like what do you have like what's the good what's the good here he's spooning his cousins which is enough by itself even if he was perfect otherwise it's i'm confused i'm genuinely i'm like i don't think you got much going on and i don't think there's anything like there's another post here that was removed by the moderators but from r slash relationship advice how do i get over my dislike for my boyfriend's aunt oh my god what's the aunt what's the aunt doing am i overreacting i feel like my boyfriend is not attracted to me and it makes me want to leave him it almost feels like he's like the center of a female cult within his family in a weird way like it it's a weird vibe it's like what's going on this is not a vibe i would want to be a part of i feel like there's something extra happening yeah and again i will say seemingly real account again old has a decent amount of karma five-year-old account has been unlocking achievements like top poster five-day streak nice post banana officiato aficionado banana master active in the two i take sub nine months ago girl leave girl run girl if you're if you're out there if you're listening look look at me look at me this isn't you no this is not meant for what are you fighting for this is not meant for you at all jump scare okay we're jumping off this ship okay i don't want to be a part of this one anymore perfect and i hope you don't want to be either because it's too weird yeah i'll find someone for you honestly i'm incentivized michaela the matchmaker okay on to 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relationship spirals late night thoughts soft moments braggy moments your messy moments it's kind of like this dump ball and so you'll get this picture of like oh this is a nice looking taco and then it's like a crazy story you maybe have mentioned this yeah i've read a couple stories off here now but i'm really just finding it to be such a good sub to follow yeah this is again coming from girl dinner diaries titled found out my best friend is hooking up with my dad i have no idea what to do y'all please help to start let me make it known that we are in our mid-20s not underage anyways my best friend has been close to me like a sister for six years we do everything together since we met i take her on vacations with me bring her around my other friends and family pretty much any and everything she's my go-to person for advice and to talk to about literally everything she's always been around my family a lot to the point where she says it feels like a second family for her and i'm like i don't know what to do with her i don't know what to do with her i don't know And my mom absolutely adores her. Sometimes when my mom is mad at me, she'll even make jokes about how I should act more like my best friend and will refer to her as her favorite daughter. Oh God, not anymore. The other night I was hanging out with my best friend at my house and when she went to get a shower, she forgot to take her phone with her, which she usually never does. So I didn't even realize she didn't have it until I heard it go off next to me. She was getting blown up by someone and had her text previews on. So I looked at her screen and I saw her texts. She got them from an unsaved number and y'all, I looked at her screen and it was my fucking dad's number. There were two texts from him that said, quote, when are you going to be home? And I want to see you again soon, baby. When I tell you my jaw dropped and fell right through my stomach and out my asshole, crying emoji, I literally was frozen just thinking to myself, what do I do right now? Do I just go confront her now and beat her ass while she's in the shower? Or do I go to my parents' house first, confront my dad, beat his ass and tell my mom? I was fucking floored, completely at a loss for words. And the worst part is my parents are still happily together in love and have been for over 20 years now. And my mom fucking loves my best friend, maybe even more than me for real. And I'm like, I don't know what to do. I don't know what to do. I don't know and I don't even know how long this shit has been going on for. Y'all, what do I do? How do I handle some shit like this? And who do I confront first and how? It still doesn't even feel real. And I can't even believe I'm sharing this here, to be honest, but I genuinely have no idea how to go about this whole fucked up situation. This is the type of nightmare fuel that you know is possible, but you obviously never think it's actually going to happen. What do I do? I'm going to need her to get a little bit more specific on mid-20s and six-year best friend. Take on vacation. Right, because this is grooming. Like, she literally looked at them as a second family and has been around and like so interconnected to the family for so many years. Well, here's a picture of her tacos. Oh, my God. They look really fucking good. What is that? I'm so hungry. Is that pickle? It's like chicken fajitas. Chicken, corn, guac, sour cream, some grilled red peppers, grilled onions, grilled green peppers. Honestly, what I'm going to have immediately after this. Okay, well, you know, at least she's got food. Nice taco to cry over. Oh, my God. Like, no, this is definitely insane. Absolutely insane. She should go beat her dad's ass. I would. Like, yeah. I don't know. Obviously, it's weird and bad from the best friend, too, but she also, I feel like in this situation, might be a victim. Like. Potentially. I don't know. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, yeah, there's no real clear, like, mid-20s. That could be 25. It could be 25. It could be 27. It could be 24. So, I'm like. Again, it's not great. Like, there's clearly a power imbalance. And to go from, yeah, I look at your family as a second family to. Yeah. Like, that's not good. No, he's a creep. It's creepy. I guess, in terms of how do you proceed forward, I would probably talk to my friend first and confront her. I feel like your friend is probably less likely to try to lie to you. And I would want more clear answers. And then I would go to my dad. But, like, you got to know, like, too, friend is immediately going to be, like, texting your dad. Like, she knows. Like, there's going to be a lot of damage control. And, like. Yeah. So, I feel like. Dad has more to lose. So, he'll be a little bit more. Huge. Yeah. Huge. And so, I'd just, like, confront her. And then, depending on what you learn, go to your mom. I'd probably go to the mom. The mom first. Yeah. I think it would be interesting. Don't give him a chance to, like, figure out how he's going to sell the story to her. And some people, some people's parents, like, have open relationships. And then they find out about it in weird ways. But it's, like, you can have an open relationship. But don't fuck my friend. Don't potentially. Your child's friend who was at the oldest 20 when you met her and was hanging out with your family in this, like, I don't know. Like, that is a child parent dynamic to an extent, even if it's not, you know, as severe as an actual child. And even without that, like, that is an insane age gap. And it's creepy regardless. Yeah. I don't know. Also, him saying, like, when are you getting home? Are they, like, playing house? What's going on? Does he have a key to her place? This sounds pretty severe. Again, when did it start? How long has it been happening? Because this doesn't sound, like, super recent. No. If he's saying, when are you getting home? No. And I will say, this does seem to be a very real Reddit account. It's a part of the two-year club. Normal amount of karma. Doesn't seem like it's out of this world. Like, they're karma farming. Regular achievements. They typically post in r slash paintings, r slash unusual art, r slash OC poetry. I feel like it's very real. Which is, like, why? Why, why, why, why, why? But, yeah. I'm just, like, I think I would do that order. Friend. Mom. Dad. Of, like, talking to people. I agree. I agree. And she's with a friend right now. That's why it's all so easy. Is there any way she, like, knows her phone password while she's in the shower? I would have, like, really gotten in there. If I knew it, I would have creeped. I'm not usually for looking through someone's phone. But I would want to know. Like, I just feel like when people are definitely gonna lie. Like, this is one where I think she'd come out and lie. Yeah. If, I feel like if trust gets broken in some way, like, well, now it's on the person who broke it to either fix that or show whatever. So, I think looking at someone's phone when they've done something like that is totally reasonable and valid. Yeah. Insane. Let's get into the comments on this one. The top comment with 4.2k upvotes is just a meme of this guy just looking horrified, which is how I feel inside right now. Yeah. Damn, girl. Your font is huge. I zoomed it for you. Oh, thank you. Coming to just, like, font shame me. Or, like, text size, whatever. Yeah. I zoomed so you could see it. Thank you. And that was really kind. Another meme that gets shared is Maya Rudolph cringing. I mean, I think she knows her father's phone number. Yeah, I feel like, and in that moment, I feel like you would also do a double take, triple take, and be like, is that? It's close. No, that's my dad. I would take a picture of it on my phone. I think you definitely, when you come across shit like this, you definitely need to take pictures of someone's screen. Because, again, people just lie. People can make you seem crazy, especially if it's, like, multiple people that are cared about in your family who could kind of band together and create a different narrative of what happened. The next top comment here. Well, tell your mom for sure. She doesn't deserve to be in the dark. Next comment. Tell mom, wait on beating friend's ass while your mom figures out what she wants to do. And if it's divorce, get what she needs lined up for that before either of them know and can do anything to cover their asses. OP, prioritize your mom and getting her set up for the direction she wants to go right now without them. Coming up with a cover. Ass beatings can happen later, after your mom is set up. And that's a really good point. That's smart, yeah. Play it cool, like you still don't know. And, like, try to secure the evidence off your friend's phone. Yeah. Like, get the password for the next time she's in the shower. Or, like, you have a sleepover and then you wake up midnight and get it. Which feels, like, so. Put that phone screen up to their face. Yeah. Oh, my God. Oh, but the eyes have to be open. Yeah. Well, she could, like. Get the password. She could, like, do it while they're awake. Like, run to the bathroom, lock herself in the room. That would work. Right? And it feels, like, deceptive. But at the same time, she's been with your dad. But again, we don't know when it started. So I know there's, like, a very nuanced conversation with all of this. Yeah. Where we don't know all the details. Yeah. But it's not right. No. What's going on one way or another, not right. Damn. And I also, like, didn't expect it to. For him and the wife to still be together. I thought it was going to be a story. Where it's just, like. They were divorced. Yeah. But, like, bad anyway. Mm-hmm. But that's crazy. Yeah. No, a lot of people do keep commenting to ignore everyone else's advice and do this. One, do not say anything to the friend. Two, tell mom, let her do what she needs to do legally. Step three, tell dad. Step four, keep ignoring friend. You will never speak to her again. Okay. Sure. Yeah. I mean, I'd probably want to hear her side, too. But I don't know. After all the other stuff. I would. Yeah. Because I think a lot of people. I think a lot of people see, like, mid-twenties and are just, like, well, she was an adult. Yeah. But I think there's a lot more nuance there. And, again. Family vacations immediately followed by best friend of six years. Yeah. And grooming, like, I think, again, it's kind of, like, why I have a problem with age gaps. If there's, like, a power imbalance, like, grooming can also be a power imbalance where she felt vulnerable. Maybe she doesn't have a good home life. Maybe she doesn't really have a family. She looks at this family as a problem. Yeah. And she's like, well, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't her second family, her chosen family. Yeah. And then it just devolves into this messed up situation and so there she's like kind of been adopted into this family which is even like you hear that and you're just like god this dude is just sick in the head uh we don't have an update from op it is very fresh just posted this morning the moderators of girl dinner did remove it oh shit however account still very active i'm gonna send her a message and just be like hey sending you love crazy terrible thing you're dealing with like please keep us posted but it again is giving very real based on account history and all the posts i'm seeing yeah wild absolutely wild god i wish that i could text her i know i just want to like drop a pin let me help yeah let me like let's kick your dad out let's put all this shit on the lawn i got a hammer what is that what you meant what are you gonna do with that hammer you know like hit him with it oh man we're gonna we're gonna fight with words okay sure you know allegedly since we're publicly posting 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mentions of self-harm suicide body shaming it's a pretty heavy story and is honestly quite bonkers so if you can't handle that today please skip ahead the two hot takes dating show where all the people who write into the two hot takes reddit with the gross relationship story we find matches for them i've wanted to do like jubilee a two hot takes like speed dating thing in la you should i know well you can help me now that i have a business partner on this venture i'll be the hype guy you say stuff i'm like yeah i don't want to talk we'll let everyone do the talking we just will screen people make sure they're they're good we'll be like you have to send us your reddit oh i'm good at that i'm good at like looking into someone's social media and finding everything you have to yeah kind of know what people are doing on this reddit otherwise they can turn out to be a monster like this next one this is coming from r slash relationships it's titled i just discovered my husband 34 male of six years is a reddit troll and i'm pregnant that's what you meant by troll okay he left the browser open on our laptop after he went to work this morning i go to work after so i usually hop on and do my own things on my real account today however i was disgusted at what i found my husband is a troll a really fucking nasty troll he leaves horribly mean comments to all kinds of people they are filled with racist slurs awful insults he tears into fat people ugly people etc he loves to troll around places like r slash progress pics to discourage people he sent private messages to people to call them names calls women who post on r slash gone wild sluts and whores and c words etc i was horrified completely horrified my husband is a nice gentle man who is supportive and kind in our nine-year relationship we have fought a total of three times i never thought that this is a behavior he would take part in but this is something else it made me wonder what else he did on the internet so i looked at the browser history to find him also harassing teenagers on tumblr telling them themselves calling cute girls ugly and fat and stupid it horrified me to think that this was the man who could be raising our daughter with me in just a few months i understand trolling can be fun we've all laughed at chem n once or twice but this goes far beyond what i ever imagined i don't know how to look at him i've lost respect for the man i looked up to and admired good men don't tear others down good people don't do that in general i don't know what to do i want to bring it up to him but i don't know how to do it without him automatically getting defensive and spouting off the same lines you hear from people get a thicker skin the world isn't kisses and rainbows etc of course it isn't but why contribute to it what do i do i'm confused because she's saying he's so nice normally but then like she thinks that his reaction when she brings it up will be like get a thicker skin whereas if i you know thought my husband of nine years was so sweet and i would be like he'll be humiliated he'll be so embarrassed he'll be like this isn't him but she knows that he'll kind of like argue about it so i'm like how sweet could he really be i genuinely would be scared to confront this person yeah i don't know why because there's like a different side of them it's jekyll and hyde yeah like this would genuinely terrify me because it's like who are you because it's not the person i thought i knew and i would be scared of like some retaliation or i just i don't even know like i i i just have like a weird feeling where i feel like i i'm like would i even say anything or would i just quietly be like hey this isn't working out yeah i just i don't even know like i think that's so valid like a kind of person who can disguise themselves so well and so successfully yeah that is very chilling it's just it's clearly deeply deeply disturbing behavior to go on teenagers accounts on tumblr yeah like you are going out of your way to harass belittle degrade people r slash progress pics where people are so proud of their progress and they're they're trying to better their health or their life and you're shitting on them and maybe discouraging them his account should be banned his account should be banned but yeah that's not at all what i expected when i heard the title i was like thinking it was gonna be just you know arguing a lot or something like that yeah like shit posting or being the devil's advocate yeah but and even that i would have been like okay like that's an unhealthy habit but you know i'm sure you can talk it through and get better but this is just like i don't think there's any coming back from that it's just too spooky this would i would be like you need to go talk to someone you need therapy because this is insane behavior like genuinely like this is not okay this is despicable and if you feel the need to do this and comment this type of stuff on other people's pages pictures whatever there is something deeply wrong with you whether you're that insecure i don't know what it is but you really need to get some help yeah like genuinely i would i'd even struggle to believe he's gotten better if he said he was so good at hiding it already yes it's like you can just find a more secretive way of doing it you just like go another layer deeper you get an extra phone and you only do it at work you do you know there's always like a way to do it and if you can't trust someone to be honest with you of their own volition i think that that's really hard to come back from especially when the nature of what they're lying about is so anus so pulling it up on rare reddit the top comment damn you just have to confront him and tell him everything you just told us what could possibly be his motivation i always figured trolls were just lonely malcontents malcontents I've never heard that one before. Yeah, malcontents. Someone responded to that. They are. They are also extremely insecure and like to project negative, derogatory comments to others because that's how they feel about themselves. It's not something that can change overnight. It's how they view others and will require hours upon hours of therapy. Even if he does stop, the fact that he posts on multiple sites and various groups means it's something that will stick with him for a long time. OP has a troll in clothes at her residence. I can't also, I cannot get over her saying his reaction is going to be, you need to toughen up and get a thicker skin. They're just comments like, what? No. And someone shares here too. They link a article. It's coming from Slate. It's titled Internet Trolls Really Are Horrible People. And they basically summarize in their comment this. Trolling has been linked by psychologists to narcissism as well as sadism and psychopathic tendencies. Researchers have postulated that trolling is an expression of Latin narcissistic rage, where a narcissist attacks and belittles others as a way of maintaining perceived superiority. I haven't read the article. No idea what it entails. I will be sure that we have it linked in the episode description. I'm definitely going to read it after this, but. Yeah. Well, he's literally telling teenagers to kill themselves, a thing that teenagers famously will do, you know, like. It's disgusting. It's disgusting. A very volatile, emotional, insecure time in everybody's life. And it's like, that is a, you're not even just like saying mean things. You like want harm to come to people. Well, and like, he's on the brink of fatherhood. Yeah, that's so scary. How can you not like put yourself in these shoes now of like what I'm saying to other people? If someone said this to my teenage daughter, if someone said this, like that is kind of scary where it's like he's about to be in those shoes and still isn't connecting the dots in his head. Yeah. Well, it's not my daughter, so, ah, it doesn't matter. And who even knows, maybe he would troll his own daughter. I've heard stories about that too, like, I don't know, there's been like OnlyFans stuff. Yeah, like the Netflix doc, this keeps coming up, but like the Netflix doc of the mom that like literally was harassing her daughter and trying to steal his boyfriend. Oh, I was thinking about, I was thinking about the story of the dad who was subscribed to his daughter's OnlyFans and then he was like her biggest donator and then she found out about it. Motherfucker. Motherfucker. What the fuck? I'm sorry. Yeah. Yeah. That's a fucking jump scare. I know. Hmm. Yeah. Sorry. So, OP does respond to a few comments. Someone says, you never suspected this kind of behavior based on how he interacts with you and others. That's extremely horrifying. He seems like he has a lot of pent up anger or resentment and is taking it out on people over the internet. I think the best thing to do is talk to him about it. You're having a child with him and you can't just walk away from that. As horrifying of a discovery as this may be, but you need to be careful when you approach him. You weren't snooping. He left it open. He can't get mad at you for that, though I'm sure he will be extremely defensive. Update us and let us know you're okay. What? I'm sorry. That's a little tame of a response. You can't just walk away. You can. Just talk to him. What about this is terrible. Like you can walk away at any time sometimes though, you don't just walk away and say you're leaving. You can't do it in covert ways and you just leave because that is the safest way. Yeah. Also, like this was very minimal snooping, like this might not even be the full extent of what she could find. There's no way it's the full extent. Yeah. And this was easy to see. Yeah. OP responds. I don't intend on just walking away, but I am stunned and horrified at the kind of person he's showing himself to be, you know? Another commenter says, how would you know this when moderators in these subreddits delete those types of comments and subsequently ban the username? He's trolling on some heavily moderated places, so he can't be making frequent comments under one name. Do you have access to all of his troll accounts? OP said, there were comments up that he had just left that morning. That's how I know. And again, I think that speaks to the, you are not even seeing the full picture here. The hoes were just this morning? Just this morning. Oh my God. Yeah. Yeah. So we do get an update. This update is coming eight days later. I confronted him about the issue very tamely over breakfast. I asked him flat out if he was harassing and bullying people online. He said yes and immediately withdrew. After telling him that I needed to know why, really why, not just, I don't know. He said he needed time to think about it. When he finally gave me his answer, I was disappointed. He said he trolled and bullied people because it was an outlet for him to be. I don't know. It was an outlet for him to relieve stress. He said he didn't view the people as real or that what he was doing was anything other than a joke. And if it hurt feelings, quote, those people have bigger problems and it's not my fault. No, the teenagers kind of like don't like that can, that can be like something that really becomes their biggest problem in a really awful way. And yeah, it's very scary to say. Yeah. I think that the way you relieve stress is through harm. I think that again, we, there's always a fear that that can escalate, especially if you're just now about to have a child with this person. That's often the time that a thing like that can happen. So yeah, huge red flag to be like, oh, it's just how I relieve stress is like telling people to kill themselves and like saying they're disgusting and ugly and that they'll never be loved. And yeah, it's just how I, you know, that just makes me feel better. I'm nauseous. I'm absolutely nauseous over this. OP goes on to say. I told him that it wasn't an acceptable behavior of an adult and that he needed to stop it and find another way to express his frustrations that didn't involve hurting strangers. He said he would think about it. Oh, unfortunately he is still doing it. I saw it happening a few mornings back and after he left, looked again to see more comments and posts. I was disappointed. This was not the man I married or so I thought, but I guess it is. I told him that we need to either go to counseling for this or start the separation process. I told him that I couldn't trust him to help raise a child if he speaks to strangers, children included, the way he does online. I let him know that I thought it was cowardly, pathetic, and that I have lost a lot of respect for him. I knew this would be abrasive and hurtful, and I don't like that I had to tell him that, but I cannot look at him the same way. We haven't had sex, have barely touched. I cannot see my husband as a loving, gentle man. I'm not afraid of him, but I am disgusted with this behavior. I'm not afraid of him. This is the sort of thing children do. I made an appointment for counseling for myself over this. Unfortunately, he told me that he wouldn't be going to counseling because there's nothing scary, scary. This guy is scary. And because I want to protect my child, myself, I have asked him to leave the house. He's staying with some friends, but I don't think this will lead to a reconciliation. I'd hope this story would have gone another way. I mean, and you know he's reading this post. He is on Reddit. I hope it was on the front page and he saw all the comments calling him a sicko. We do get another update. Really? It comes six months later. Oh, okay. Babies. Babies here. Babies three months old. So as you can see, it has been six months since this all started unfolding. Since then, I gave birth to my beautiful daughter. She's the light of my life and she is one of the easiest babies I've ever been around. After one month of being apart, he contacted me and asked me if I would still be willing to enter into counseling regarding our situation. Of course, after being together for so long and us having a child and my belief that marriage is not something to be taken seriously. I jumped at this. I was so happy that I was able to do this. are moving to a smaller house closer to my family. She will be raised around many, many people who already love her. I mean, I guess that's a happy ending because when she said they were merging their lives back together, I got scared. I don't know. It's just that is a scary person. There is a rage and a hate inside him and like a disregard for human life inside him that is like, I don't, yeah, I think it would take more than a month of therapy. I don't even know if therapy could do it. I think there's something. I think he's maybe like rehab, like rehab for. I think so. I don't know. I mean, he's getting a dopamine hit off of this. I think there's an article that came out from, I believe it was The Cut that talked about like snark pages and they said that people that participate. Do get hits of dopamine. I mean, you look at games like Candy Crush, even Candy Crush and why it was so big and addictive. It's dopamine, social media. Yeah. Like there's so many things that you wouldn't even correlate with these dopamine rushes, but that's what it is for him. It's, it's, it is genuinely, it's inexcusable. It is so disgusting. And it's, I, it's a, it seems like it's a wiring issue. I don't even know what else to say. Yeah. Whether or not he can ever even fix it. It's like, okay, well, that's not on you. Because also it's like, he, he could be good for a year and just start doing it again. Like there's just such a evilness inside of him. And I, yeah, you wouldn't want that around you. You wouldn't want that around your daughter. It's, it's scary. It's scary what he can hide from you. And I don't know how you would trust a person like that. No. From the first post, I was like, there's no, there's no coming back from this. And I think it is like really sad. I, I didn't know about Lila Alcorn and like looking, just like a little bit from, from headlines about her story. And she was a Ohio teenager who posted a suicide note on Tumblr after. And like, if he, like, again, like someone, you find out that your husband's involved in something like that, like. And he doesn't stop even from that happening. You have, these are very real consequences. And still says it's just an outlet. Like, no, he, I want to just. Cattle prod electric. Yeah. There's not even a single moment where she's like saying he feels bad about it or saying like he, he feel he had a moment of like wishing he hadn't hurt people. There was a moment of him like saying he would try therapy to get back together. Which was a ploy. Yeah. Because he's still doing it. It's never once been like, yeah, if I feel bad about it, I really shouldn't be doing this. No, he's a monster. This is probably, this is one of the worst ones I think I've ever read. It's really fucked up. This is probably. This is probably the worst of the worst. It's really fucking scary. Yeah. I'm so glad that like she has left him. She has a community. The divorce is finalized. Yeah. And she got out safely before things between them potentially became scary. I would like bring the people he's harassed like over and make him look at them and like hear their testimony. I don't know. Would a person like him even care? I don't. That's the thing. Like genuine monster. We haven't heard any. Yeah, we haven't heard any. Genuine remorse. So I don't know. Genuine monster. Okay, let's move on to this next one. I hope everyone's hanging in there after that. I know a bit of a doozy, but. He's evolving a little dark. That one's a little, little, a lot of dark, a lot of dark there. This next one coming from r slash ask men. It is titled shit stain after my third date. What happens now? Boys, here's one for you. Two days ago, I went on a chill dinner. Slash walk around the park date with this girl. It's our third date and things are going well. I can't say she's the one just yet, but we're vibing. We've hooked up once before, but didn't do much. After the date, we go back to my apartment and things get frisky. We didn't do anything too wild, but she ended up sleeping over with minimal clothes. I, of course, was butt naked. I knew she had to work in the morning, so she snuck out early and I have eyes opened to say goodbye. And then I went back to sleep. And when I woke up and rolled over, I noticed in the middle of the bed on my white sheets, a nice smear of a shit stain. Now, before you go on to blame her, it was me. I was going to say, I wonder if it's a period because sometimes periods can be more brown and like, I don't know. When you know, you know. It's been two days and I've heard very little from her. There are 101 reasons why that is, but I'm bugging that she woke up, saw my gift, and has been disgusted ever since. Should I acknowledge it? Should I attempt to blame her? Oh, no. What? I hate this sub. Should I block her number and run? Oh, my God. Only completely absurd advice requested, please. Okay, first of all, so sorry to be intruding on this exclusive male space. I know you should have your safe places from women's opinions, but. Women go here, too, to ask men for advice. That's what I initially was, like, thinking it might be of, like, a, you know, I don't have, I'm, this is a thing that my boyfriend did or my dad did and I'm curious about, like. Some women do pop in and be like, hey, coming from guys' perspective, is this blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Okay, I see it. So, it's typically geared towards a place to discuss men's experience or whatever. That's what it says. So, did he shit himself or just not wipe well enough? No, Thanksgiving didn't wipe. That's. You have got to figure that out. I think more boys need bidets. Yes. Let's get. That should be some promo. Bidet for boys. Boys for bidets. I could see that on a sign at a parade. No, it'd have to be, like, real gruff men use bid. Wipe their ass. Real gruff men use bidets. I think there needs to be a good PR movement because have you seen. This is just, like, I hate this video, but it's typically on TikTok as a promotional video. Promotional tool to sell the bidets. And you'll see people rub peanut butter into carpet. And they're like, this is what it's like when you wipe your ass if you're a dude and you have hair. You're just smushing the peanut butter into the carpet. Can I tell you on my first podcast, our first sponsor was a bidet. And one of the ad read things was, like, if you got shit on your arm, would wiping it make you feel clean enough? No. So, why would you do that with your ass? That is a great promotional tool. I know. That's a line. I know. That's a line. So, I think he needs a bidet. And you can't do the wipes. And I know a lot of people get the flushable wipes. Wipes are not flushable. Do not do that. I found that out. I found that out, too. The hard way, huh? No, just I'd been using them. And then I found out later. But I was at a rental anyway. So, it's like, I don't really see the long-term consequences of my actions in that way. Yeah. But someone will. So. Every now and again, we got to remind people, wipes, tampons, not flushable. Yeah. Basic hygiene could have prevented this. Him being like, fellas, should I tell her it was her? Yeah. What? Let me gaslight her. Let me text you being like, hey, you shit on my bed. What? Also, you're a bed hog. Why was it in the middle if you're sleeping with another person? Maybe it happened after she left. Also, she's got some clothes on and you sleep butt naked? What happened to a pair of boxers, my guy? It's the third date. Clearly, you need them. Like, I don't want to be sleeping. And then all of a sudden. All of a sudden, I just, like, my hands. Third date? No. Yeah. Keep your pants on. I don't like his vibe. I don't like his energy. I'm not on board either. The line here where he's like, now, before you go on to blame her, it was me. You know when you know. Like, do you feel like this is happening to him quite often? Maybe. I feel like when I was in college, I remember so many girls having experiences of men peeing themselves in bed. That has never happened to me. It hasn't happened to me, well, to my knowledge, I guess, either. But I do think that that happens a lot when guys are drunk. Now, shitting oneself, probably less likely. But then, you know, if he doesn't wipe and he sleeps naked, of course this has happened before. Yeah. He doesn't clean up after himself and then he just puts himself on white sheets. Well, no, if this was happening a lot, you'd think he'd maybe get some black sheets. Brown sheets. Brown. Yeah. So, from OP's post history, again, seemingly very real, posting in r slash parenting, severe anxiety about letting my kids sleep over at other people's houses. Is this common? I would say yes. So, has a seven-year-old son, runs his own marketing as a solo founder of a company. Okay. Yeah, that's cool. Look at you, boy boss. Just get a bidet for real. Just get a bidet. And don't try to pull a fast one on women to blame them for your shit. Shit. Whoa. Look at that. Top comment on this one. Sweet Christ, lad. You shit the bed on the third date. There's no coming back from that. It's so funny how many, um. Poop puns? Yeah, like puns there are that this is, yeah. I really enjoy it. Next comment, quite literally. Shit out of luck. He really shit the bed on this one. one oh and put her in a shitty situation a situation a situation ship oh my god wow we're so aligned shit happens me and that reddit user i'm just going down the line these are all like oh i see people punning together yeah yeah yeah we got a lot of creativity here this is officially shitty a shitty situation did anyone give him actual advice someone says this one does have a red box and a this award so maybe but they say don't say that there's always a chance just not with her you shit the bed bro cut ties and pray she didn't snap a pic before she left yeah i mean if you're did she really see though i can see her not seeing she maybe didn't see i honestly feel like someone shitting themselves would be way less bad to me than them just like not having hygiene in their day-to-day life like because that can happen and that's like out of someone's control you know so like there's a way to like kind of get over that but if they just like live like that then it's like well i feel like if there was more than one streak on the bed then it's kind of cause for concern but you know sometimes it just happens like maybe you know it sounded like the way he described it and i hate to say this it sounded like more than a smear it sounded like a shart well i think it was a shart cause butts are really deep like i don't know like where your butthole is like for you to skid mark a bed like that's unless you have like just a really you don't have a lot of cushion on your butt like that's deep in there like i feel like you'd really have to rub your butt yeah you'd really have to like drag your ass across the bed like a dog on carpet yeah yeah like that's what i'm envisioning and we've had a story in the past where i think it was on our bad hygiene episode very early on where someone like sat on the bed and i was like oh my god i'm like oh my god i'm like oh my god i'm and did drag and that's happened for me where like i thought my period was done and i don't know you just get a little smudge yeah but that is a period is a thing where you are actively leaking throughout the day and there's no control over when it just seeps out like there's no like you don't just like wipe it no you're at your period's mercy but i do think yeah i don't know this guy's entire hygienic situation i don't know how i don't know if he shat himself i don't know if he shit himself and i don't know if he just didn't wipe but what i will say get a bidet and wear wear some boxers to bed or whatever i don't know i don't have underwear i don't have any strong feelings whatever tickles your fancy there's another comment here coming from a female commenter it actually has a badge under their username and they go i actually had this happen once we were pretty early on in staying the night together and soon after intimacy one night it was discovered i don't know for sure what happened and i didn't ask i just calmly told him i had another set of clean sheets and we swapped them it never happened again and i never found out why it happened then he's a super good guy though i ended up marrying him and we've been together just shy of a decade there may be hope just probably very little yeah that's the thing is like i feel like i hear stories all the time of people dating and like a really crazy situation like that happening early on and then they like get married like i don't know throw throw up on them or something like that and i don't know i don't know i don't know or like do shit themselves or pee themselves in the bed or whatever and then it's like but you know we're in love now and they really took care of me in that moment it was really nice or i literally have the most horrendous story and i can't even share it well i can oh i can it's not about me it's quite literally not about me um but if you are eating lunch right now please skip skip ahead oh no skip skip skip like literally three minutes um so i have this friend that like and i are are mutuals with and like not really anymore because of just like bad behavior on her part but i actually recorded a podcast episode with her it was supposed to be episode number four oh you didn't post it and i never posted it and we just stopped being friends because of some bad behavior and on her part so she wasn't at your wedding was not at my wedding and is no longer friends with basically the whole group of girls anymore because like she just was not a good friend but literally we recorded an episode she was like yeah like as i was six-nining with um someone my stomach was hurting okay and god be good to me i can't her stomach hurt okay she thought she would fart morgan uh-huh my gentle ears and they dated for quite some time after she did that i don't know sometimes like i mean on his face in his mouth like i threw up six hours ago i'm so sorry that's okay you can we're gonna get soup after this it's gonna be fine oh my god yeah so like stuff happens and like they moved past it and dated for i think she said like two years but that's what i'm saying is like that's why i think shitting yourself is so much more forgivable than not wiping your ass so badly that you're leaving that now so if he sharted there's a lot of people who are like oh my god i'm so sorry i'm so sorry i'm so sorry there's a chance true skid mark i would i would send her a text well i don't know because i guess there's a chance she didn't see it she's not so yeah and she's not ignoring him he's just days it's been two days and i've heard very little from her so not ghosting okay not ignoring i'd go out and see you know maybe she's embarrassed maybe she thought it was her somehow through her underwear how do you pry about something like that without saying it if they don't know already just being hey i don't know i feel like okay i feel like if someone was honest like this with me it would probably make me like them more like hey i don't know if you saw something i'm really embarrassed that's never happened to me before such a such a silly accident and it certainly wasn't your fault i honestly yeah i don't know i think i think there's a chance there's a chance yeah i hope he keeps us posted we have no update on this yet it is still relatively new just coming from like two weeks ago now and he's been posting since on r slash parenting and ask men again so we could we could get an update on this one i wish you well buddy yeah hope you find love yeah and wear some boxers to bed next time and also if she did see and thought it was her i think you saying it was i feel like she would be even less comfortable talking with you thinking it was her because if she saw it and thinks there's a chance it was her she knows you're gonna be like i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know because it's your bed and it's your white sheets like it's a guarantee that you see it yeah so i think taking that off of her might make her feel more comfortable too i don't know i 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I feel very guilty and it's tearing me up. I, 27 female, have known my boyfriend, 28 male, since we were 13. We've been together for five years. A week or so ago, he sat me down and said he had something he needed to tell me. He called my brother, their best friends, and asked him to be there for him for support when he confessed to me. My brother looked so uncomfortable. My boyfriend looked sad, afraid, and was green in the face. I thought someone was about to confess a murder or a gay affair. I would have preferred either of those, actually. My boyfriend confessed that since he was a kid, he has had a fascination with babies and has always felt sad that he couldn't be one, has always had urges to be a baby and act and talk like one. He told me that in his free time, he does all of this when he is alone. At first, I thought it was some kind of joke as I didn't understand why my own brother had to be there for the conversation. I asked my brother to please leave so I could talk to my boyfriend, Jim. Then Jim got upset and teary and asked me if I still loved him. What? Now, I understand that everyone has quirks and fetishes, but I have never even heard of something like this. I've been googling it and researching it, though, and I found an episode of Dr. Phil that talked about it. I told him that I wouldn't judge him. I just didn't want to see that. What he does in his free time isn't my business, but I didn't want to see him like that. Jim was happy and agreed. Everything went back to normal, and I actually started to feel really happy that he had opened up to me, and I felt like our relationship was now more open. Then I began to notice my brother and Jim spending a weird amount of time together, talking on the phone, and hanging out. Then, one night, I just felt very sad and kind of jealous. Jim hadn't really been talking to me like he used to, but I felt like he was trying to help me. I confronted Jim and asked him why him and my brother had been spending so much time together the past few days. Jim said that my brother gets him and understands, doesn't judge him. I cry and tell Jim that I love and understand him very much, and I don't judge him and that I'm sorry for telling him that I don't want to see him as a baby. I tell him that I'm really sad that he hasn't been treating me the same since he told me and that he has been talking to my brother more. I tell him that I'm really sad that he hasn't been treating me the same since he told me that I'm really sad that he hasn't been treating me the same since he told me that I'm really sad. Jim says that my brother has seen something that I have never seen. At this point, I'm just hysterical. What kind of games is he playing? I ask Jim what he's talking about. Jim asks if I really do love him, and I shout that yes, I do love him. So, the next day, Jim brings me to his house and into a room that I had never even really noticed before, as it's in the back of his house and kind of hidden. He shows me the room and says, this is where he goes when he wants to be who he really is. The whole room looks like a baby's room. A crib, stuffed animals. I ask to look around, and he says yes. I begin to look around and notice diapers. I was honestly so taken aback that I didn't really respond appropriately. I asked, what the fuck is this? Jim tells me he often wears diapers. I had never even considered that this was a possibility when he confessed to me. I should have responded better, but I was disgusted, and Jim continued to ask me what I was doing. I asked him what he was doing, and he said, what the fuck is this? Jim got upset and started crying and told me to get out of his room. I went home to collect myself and called him later that night, and we talked for a long time. Things seemed to be resolved, and we made many promises to each other. We have an active sex life. Never has Jim asked me to do anything even remotely weird in the bedroom, but last night, Jim asked me if I would mind him dressing up as a baby the next time we had sex. I tried to be supportive, but told him that it would take me a while to get used to that. He then started begging me and saying that it's what he really wanted and that he would do it for me if the situation was reversed. I said, okay, we can try. So, he puts on his baby stuff, and we get into bed. He asked me to start rubbing him and cooing to him, quote, tell me you love me and would never hurt me, and all of this other weird stuff. He wanted me to say, shh, baby, and undo his onesie and touch him. At this point, I couldn't go on and said that I had to stop. I got up from the bed, and went into the bathroom. I couldn't look at myself in the mirror. I threw up and started crying. I've known Jim for so long, and I've loved him with all of my heart. He was there for me when my dad died, and there for me when I graduated college, and there for me when I got my dream job. He has always supported me no matter what. I felt horrible that I have trouble supporting him through this. I feel like the worst girlfriend on the planet. I want to support Jim and let him know that I'm really trying here, but lately, I haven't been able to find comforting words. I feel like I've gone about this all wrong, but then a part of me does not want this relationship anymore. Whenever I look at him, it's not the same anymore. It's tearing me apart. I'm having trouble remembering the love. Instead, I feel like I've lost the real Jim that I've always known and loved, like he died and has been replaced by a new Jim. To make it worse, my brother has been very mean to me, saying I'm a bad girlfriend. He's even called me over 40 times since last night, leaving voicemails on my phone that I'm a bad, unsupportive girlfriend and that he is ashamed to be my brother. Can someone help me? Do I fight for this relationship? Do I end it? How do I deal with all these new doubts? How do I explain properly my feelings to Jim? I'm terrible with words. How can I explain my point of view to my brother? Thanks in advance if you answer this. Rarest kink in the world. Like, I definitely have seen this in media and, like, heard that this is a thing. I literally just shared a video on the Two Hot Takes Instagram that was an investigative story talking about this, and it was interesting at the end where people were like, how'd you discover this fetish of yours? And they were like, read it. And I was like, interesting. Sorry, do go on. No, but I was just going to say, with that said, like, I'm not super knowledgeable. On, like, what gives a person this fetish? And, like, what I will say is that it did sound like he was forcing her into a kind of pedophilic dynamic with the way that the sexual interaction ended up going down. Yeah. And I think that, I mean, that's why she threw up and, like, felt so disgusted with herself. You do make an interesting point here because there is a thread where someone says what Opie says, they quote it. He would do it for me if the situation were reversed. And they go, this is straight up manipulation. Regardless of the fetish, it's not okay to guilt your partner into doing something for you just because they'd do it for you. It's not about a fetish. This is about the fact that your boyfriend has absolutely no problem in using manipulative catchphrases to get you into doing things that are uncomfortable. This is backed up by the fact that he has sufficiently manipulated your brother against you as well. Frankly, whatever the fetish, it's irrelevant. His approach is never, ever okay. This is someone you want to out of your life pronto. He will blame it on the baby fetish and complain that you're bigoted and judgmental, and that's okay. You know the reason why you're ending it, and that's all that matters. And Opie responds and says, yes, when he said that to me, I just felt horrible and like I should be supporting him 100%, but it was just so hard for me. It felt like I was some sort of child molester, even though Jim is not really a baby. But still, I don't know. I have been trying to get used to the idea. And someone responds, honey, you don't have to get used to the idea. If it makes you uncomfortable, you don't do it. It's that simple. He cannot make you do something sexual that you don't want to. We all know what that's called. And Opie responds, thank you very much. Yeah, I think that that's why it's so sticky for us feeling like talking about it even because there's fantasy, which technically doesn't hurt anybody, but then it's like, are all fantasies okay? And I guess that's this like moral thing where it's like- Yeah, hearing those words, a lot of us are very uncomfortable. And I don't know enough about this. I've seen like there's now studies coming out on this. When I started looking into it, it's typically called ABDL, adult baby diaper lover or age play. Yeah, age play is- It's a safe, legal, consensual form, like as long as it is consensual, but it's essentially like they're trying to derive emotional comfort, stress relief, whatever. So this is now being really studied. And I think the first time it was documented was like the 60s, but there's a bunch of different things like adult babies, diaper lovers, caregiver little dynamics. The common motivations are stress relief, escapism, emotional comfort. So I don't like- I don't like, I will say like there is a thing where people are like, it is decidedly separate from pedophilia. Like psychologists are really trying to establish that it seems. Well, there's like a big, I don't know. I feel like online there's a lot of discourse of like, don't kink shame. I don't feel like it's necessarily kink shaming just to be like what he's doing with the partner isn't right. And like, it's not really about the diaper and the baby stuff. It's like coercing your partner into doing stuff that they're not comfortable with and not into. And recruiting the brother is so weird. The way he's gone about it and like having a kink is one thing. But I also think if you have a kink that is so, out there, like you have to have a little understanding of this is gonna take my partner time this is they're not really into this like this is a very unique thing that i'm into that you know would be amazing if she participated in but like she's not required to be open and transparent up front but instead he's like being mad at her and like manipulative yeah yeah very coercive judgmental like uh towards her i yeah again sticky like you said and it would make her feel very icky to continue doing that clearly from how she said it based on what she's saying absolutely like this goes against what you're into and what you feel and there's nothing wrong with that break up like there's no other way forward you're not right you're not a match i also just think the way that he's handled he and the brother have handled the brother situation has been very weird to like like how are these conversations coming across with each other it almost feels like she's the bad guy in their conversations and it's just like you haven't you didn't give her a chance initially and then she was accepting of it just you know understandably she wasn't into it so again she's trying everything she can to like support this whole thing i feel like she's giving it a fair shake she saw the room she like started the process with him rubbed his belly and and she's trying she really did try because of her love for him and now you've just gotten to this point where it's like she's not on board this is not what she's the bad guy to her brother i'm ashamed that you're my sister i'm almost wondering if the brother has been involved with him in the past it feels that way and is like almost like offended that she has such a hard time with it because maybe he doesn't i definitely think he has the same pink i could see the brother that's what i'm saying like i could i could see the brother and the maybe he was gonna also admit it in that conversation but he kind of like chickened out and that's why he was there yeah like they were both gonna say it and it was gonna be like okay we'll both tell her and then it'll be less weird i don't know it's odd the commenters kind of really pick apart on that too about the brother someone quotes the fact that he called op like 40 times and they go what what the sweet holy living fuck is wrong with your brother that's actually the weirdest part out of all of this to me who does that pressures their sister in a fetish play ugh you don't need to your reaction to your brother the fact that he's even demanding an explanation is so far beyond inappropriate i don't have words for it the only thing your brother deserves is a come to jesus talk that he is to never get this involved in your sex life again getting the issue of your boyfriend's fetish i don't think there's anything wrong with it but there's also nothing wrong with you for not wanting to be a part of it i think you would be best served treating this like any other sexual incompatibility it's okay for him to want what he wants and it's okay for you to not want what you don't want i don't want to say your relationship is over that's for you to to determine but this may have the ending that you are respectful of your boyfriend's needs while being realistic about the fact that you will not be the one to meet them yeah they're also like only kind of coming down on the brother for that of like he shouldn't be getting involved in your sex life but also the boyfriend shouldn't be texting the brother about their sex life and giving him the details for him to know about it lack of boundaries yeah weird weird dynamic and again people just pick up on that like it's a sucky move by using your brother to coerce or pressure you into this fetish you tried it's just not your thing don't go guilt tripping yourself um you shouldn't be pressured into anything and like i think that's like the main point too like everyone is gonna do what pleases them and gets their rocks off but like you don't have to do anything that makes you uncomfortable yeah the hot part about sex is two people that are fully consenting and making that decision to fuck around in fun ways together explore whatever but if one person is uncomfortable how is that fun exactly like that's not fun so just i like the fact that someone says like treat it as any other sexual incompatibility yeah because like that's the case like i've slept with people and like we just don't fit right together we don't mesh we have different styles and like that's okay but it's sad because they did before so it's like damn yeah or did they really did they really or was that kind of performative i don't know i guess i'm just taking her word for yeah i mean she does say we have an active sex life yeah so yeah it is interesting how it's like i wonder if something's shifted with him where it's like he now needs this more and more the brother validating him that it's like yeah important for him i do i think you're spot on though that i think there's some other involvement there like where the brother is into this as well or like yeah maybe they've done stuff together like it does feel but they've certainly talked about it already because like the brother knew before she did yeah which is also why is my why did you how did it even come up between you and my brother how did you like it's weird to have this bond with each other but then also what was the first moment one of you disclosed this with the other and why did you feel comfortable doing that i could so see it just they got super high one night and he's like dude something crazy i never thought i'd admit this like i like dressing up as a baby like i could just see it coming out yeah i guess the other guys like me too me too bro yeah what does that look like curious i want to try like who knows i don't know but either way unhealthy boundaries here and honestly i'd consider going low contact no contact with my brother and i think you have to kind of talk with your boyfriend and just be like i love you but this isn't working anymore yeah craziness she kind of summed that up at the end too being like i don't look at him the same so you know in your heart you know and can only do what what makes sense for your life and how you feel can't stay with someone because you feel bad yeah that's not fair to either of you no well good luck let us know guys i'm you know let us know chime in in the comments like where does it come from what is the you know i could see you you're a curious cat like lauren i'm probably gonna look you're gonna go watch a little documentary on this yeah get into the dsm five it's in there oh i'm sure yeah i think usually when i've heard of this kink it's been like these ceo men who were like so in control in their everyday life that the way they get their rocks off is going home putting on a diaper and getting spanked yeah i just saw a video from a dominatrix who gets paid a thousand dollars an hour wow to like spank and whatever they want i guess i guess that's different though because one would be this this guy seems interested in the coddling and the sweetness of it right and then but that's so that's different from like this punishment i'm sure there's a dominatrix for the baby stuff though that's kind of what the video i saw was about this woman who gets paid to be the caregiver yeah all right i mean hey there's someone out there for everyone i truly believe that there's a right shoe to everyone's to someone's left or whatever that saying is yeah find your person at the end of the day just find your person find your mommy whatever you want maybe i don't know yeah i don't know i'm not wanting to say it's a path that each and every one of us will have to go down and discover but okay off to this next one it's coming from a relationship advice seven days old titled married 38 male yet fell in love with my neighbor 31 female i've been married for 16 years with my wife since we were 14 we have a couple of kids and a new neighbor moved in with her boyfriend they have a kid our kids play it's gone to the point where we see each other every day she's the last person i think about before bed and the first person each day we just went on a family overnight to a water park hers and mine basically our lives are intertwined at this point we have just about everything in common and very much enjoy each other my issue is i don't want to and will not cheat parentheses oh but that's not because of my morals it's because i see a future with her and i don't want that to be our start i'm effed thoughts oh my god heartbreak heartbreak for the wife first of all does this girl have any idea she's in a relationship she's got a kid she might not have the foggiest clue he's already like 10 steps ahead being like i'm not gonna cheat with her while we're while i'm with my wife still because i don't want our incredible beautiful future to be tarnished by that and she's like yep that's my neighbor like no it's probably um it's probably so unreciprocated yeah like it's just that's more embarrassing too i feel like for the wife and this is i mean similar to the other story we read about like the cheating and then getting rejected and coming back it's like oh my god i had a friend whose ex tried to cheat on her but the girls didn't reply and then he'd be like well like i didn't cheat on you and she's like this is more embarrassing it's yeah it's definitely more embarrassing oh yeah i don't think she knows i can't imagine her knowing well i think he would like give an example of a moment they've had together if they'd been having moments together you know i mean the one girl that was in love with her manager and was like should i should i tell him i mean they at least had a brush of a sleeve like she's got she's got a sleeve brush on this guy maybe something like at the water park i doubt there's anything i think he's just obsessed yeah he's upset like he is in love with her yeah And he also hasn't said anything about her personality in this post. He's not like, she's so funny. We have this in common. Like, she makes me feel this way. She's a breath of fresh air. Like, I don't know. There's just, I love her. I love her and we're going to have a future together. And I don't want to cheat on my wife because I love her so much. Yeah. No, he's like, we've got just about everything in common. Oh, okay. Well. That's very surface, though. Yeah, I doubt it. And also, like, as you meet someone and you're making friends, like, you're going to, of course, be like, yeah, I love that, too. Yeah. Oh, cool. Yeah. Oh, my God. They do that on Love is Blind all the time. They'll be like, you also love Christmas. I love Christmas. I've never met. I've never met. Biggest fan. Anybody else who loves Christmas. Oh, my God. What are the chances that we love Christmas? The one line here that really threw me for a loop, though. My issue is I don't want to and will not cheat. And for him to put then parentheses physically. So you'll cheat emotionally? Yeah. Yeah. Which for a lot of people is worse to me. Yeah. I'm like an emotional affair feels worse than just like a one night stand. I mean, especially in this context of like, we're all hanging out as couples, as families together. I know her like me saying I'm the wife in the situation. I know her like this has been happening under my nose. And yeah, to hear that your husband isn't going to cheat on you, not because of his dedication to you, but because he does. He loves this other woman. And so much and doesn't want the way that their beginning looks like to be anything less than like beautiful and perfect is awful. Yeah. It's more about like the optics for people. The top comment on this one. Obsession. That's the word you seem to be looking for here. Yeah. Next comment down. Limerence is the word. Dude's about to blow up his whole life. That one fits better. Hadn't run into that word before. Thank you. And yeah, I feel for the wife and kids. Sitting on a ticking time bomb like that makes me almost hope that this is rage bait. Opie has since deleted his entire Reddit account, which really sometimes when people do that, it actually makes me feel like it's more real because he's like, oh, my God, I need this gone. This can't be connected to me in any way. Delete account. Not just delete. Delete the post. Delete account. Honestly, I feel like he tried something, got rejected, was so embarrassed, deleted any trace of it. God, do you think if a situation? Like that happened that the girl should tell his wife? Yeah, it sucks. It's going to make things awkward going forward, especially your neighbors. Like, do they own their homes or are they just renting? If I was the neighbor and like this dude confess feelings to me, I'd oh, my God, I would want to move so bad. Of course. Be so weirded out. Also, it's like if it does blow up his life, he could have resentment toward you about it. Yeah. And like. Have now this that love could turn into anger and like hate and animosity. And now he's your next door neighbor. But I think, yeah, I agree with you about telling someone. Is that a bug? No, no, no. About telling the wife, because I think like that one comment said about him being a ticking time bomb. I think that that's like a very apt way of looking at it. I agree, because I don't think. This is like a if it's going to go wrong, I think it's when it's going to go wrong and how bad. Yeah. I do want to give people the definition of limerence. I know we've mentioned it before on another story, but limerence is an intense, involuntary state of obsession, infatuation and emotional dependence on another person driven largely by uncertainty and the desire for reciprocation. We have that in the story of the woman cheating with the guy, the guy, the gym. Oh, my God. Or wanting to cheat with the trainer. That's where it came up. And the trainer didn't like her back. I think the trainer was like, what the hell? No. Like, yeah, dude, she's sending me nudes. Yeah. I was like, that was a really crazy one to totally one sided obsession thing. Talk about a jump scare there. That was wild. A lot of affairs going on. I know. And why? Why turn to Reddit? It's also so embarrassing because in all three of the affair stories like the two today and the one that we just referenced, the person who cheated was then not fully wanted by the person they cheated with or like attempted to cheat with, I guess. I wonder if. There's stats out there because I feel like that's more common than not. Yeah. Then like them actually getting married and ending up together. Yeah. Yeah. I could see that being more common of like, it's just not reciprocated. And yeah. Oh, OK. Damn. I wish we could know a little bit more about the girl's side of things and like if there's actually anything there or not. Maybe. I doubt it. She's out there. Maybe she'll see it. Oh, my God. If you're out there, please. If you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's going to be pretty identifying story like the trip that they went on together. Yeah. And you're like, you're sitting there listening to the story and you're like, oh, my God. Yeah. We just went to the Great Wolf Lodge. Huh. The ages are in it. Yeah. Yeah. That's ringing a bell. New neighbor. Kids. Great Wolf Lodge. Please DM us. Yeah. This is me. That's all we got on Jump Scare. I hope you all are OK out there. I don't think Michaela is. We will have some more stories from Patreon. Michaela is probably thinking, I don't want to be on Jump Scare. I don't want to be a part of that. Listen, I'm partially horrified, partially like, was I too harsh? Like, is there is this really coming from, you know, like an OK place and I've been too hasty with judgment or is this really coming from, you know, a place I don't like? But but and so I'm going to be defer to, you know, I'll go home tonight. I'll sleep on it. 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