Julie & Zach Ertz on World Cup and real football & Johnny Knoxville on his Jackass' legacy | EP 196

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Shout out to the Heights and shout out to UC, all our Bearcats family out there. Follow the show on all social media. Add New Heights Show with one S for fun clips throughout the week. And Jason is now going to tell you all the fun shit we're going to talk about. 90% is we got a great episode lined up for all of you guys listening and watching today. Two great conversations. One with a former teammate of mine. One of them, the all-time Eagles great. Zach Ertz and his wife, Julie Ertz, a USA great. That's right. We're going to talk about some World Cup, NFL, football on football action. Football on football action. And then on top of that, we're also going to get into our Johnny Knoxville conversation. One of the biggest icons from our childhood. I think we all remember when that banjo would kick in and that show would tune on every week on MTV. And. The shenanigans would start. Well, we're going to talk about Jackass and their upcoming last film, the best and last soon to be released. But before we get into all that, let's get into some of that new news. New news. New news is brought to you by Xfinity. And if you can't tell, this is a pre-taped episode this week. What? It is. Travis, you are currently at Titan News. So it would be impossible. And I'm having a blast. I bet you are. It's so much fun. George Kittle. Greg Olson. Greg Olson. Is LaPorta going to go down to this thing? Oh, yeah. Sammy LaPorta. There we go, Sammy. All right. What about Dallas Goddard? Dallas Goddard. The little Philadelphia Eagle action. Come on now. Dallas is always in that thing. All right, man. But I am perhaps even more excited this year. We got the interns going down to Titan News. That's right. Intern Brandon and Jet Shake are going down to give a full Titan News recap. And yeah, it's going to be awesome. That'll be out next week. I think that's a surprise to me. Did you know that, Trev? I didn't know that. Brandon and Jake headed it to Nashville. They just wanted to go to Nashville. Is that what's happening here? Nashville. Vegas, man. Nashville. Vegas. I'm getting some reps in there. I have to find out what kind of athlete you've been dealing with. You're going to hit that new Kane Brown bar that just opened up, man. We're going to have such a blast. Come on now. We're already having fun. We're having so much fun right now. Brandon would be more of an H-back. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, no. Maybe a fullback. Might get him in a fullback. I want those all. He's like, I'm going to get him in a fullback. I want those all. He's not thick enough to be a true fullback. That's why he's got to be the H. He's got to move around. He's a tweener. He's a tweener. He's not. I'm a tweener. I'm not a tweener. I'll show you some fullbacks. All right. We'll get some reps in. Travis, get me on that jugs machine. I want to show you these hands. Jugs? All right. Here's the problem. If you're a fullback and that's what you do and you line up there, they're putting out a certain personnel. If you're an H-back, it's like, okay, we're not going to really try and shorten this guy's neck because he has a little bit more options here to be out in a bunch of different places. You're not physically capable to be a true fullback. You don't think I can get a yard in the NFL? Is that what I'm hearing? I know for certain. Fullbacks walk in like this. Jake totally bailed this guy. I can get a yard. I don't know if I've ever seen you run before. You will. You're about to. Probably by the time this airs, you'll have seen me run. Please do not tear your ACL. I'm coming back from this with zero hamstrings. We're going straight from tight end to you to beer bowl. So I'm going to be. I can't see how it's zero. Oh, my gosh. Don't worry about it. I've never seen either one of you run, but I've seen Jake walk, and I can kind of imagine how he runs. I don't know. I don't know. Jake has a medical exemption from participating. I can run. He wouldn't pass the NFL physical. Not to hit. I can't get hit. I can run. He wouldn't pass the physical. He's fucking hilarious. Jake's more of a clipboard player is what we call him. That's right. Brandon was going to tight end you, and he just told me I had to come film him use a jugs machine and run routes. So I'll see you guys there. Please. I can't wait to watch this footage. All right. It's at Vanderbilt, so I don't know. I will probably have to ask them for a jugs machine, but typically we just ask a few quarterbacks to come. Okay. Well, zip one in here. What's the drill that you have to run on the line while guys are running? You guys are throwing it from each side, and you can't. The gauntlet. That's what you're talking about. You want me to do a gauntlet? I want footage of Brandon Borders running the gauntlet. We can get that done. That's fucking hilarious. Just tell me if it's left or right on the first throw. That's all I need to know, and I'm good. That's all I need to know. Keep your head on the swivel, Brandon. Hands will be up. Defensive position. We're ready to go. All right. Keep your head on the swivel. You're so fucked. Do I have to buy cleats? If you want to run around, it'd probably be smart of you to get cleats. Yes. Can you guys give me a helmet? I'm probably going to need that helmet. I can probably find some helmet. Are you worried about fucking that face up? I don't think anybody's bringing a helmet. I need this. I need this. Come on. Well, Marsha Brady broke her nose. I get it. There's no George Glass at our school. All right. And also, Jason's down at the shore for Eagles Autism Fundraiser and the fourth annual Beer Bowl. That's right. We will be releasing that video in July, so make sure you're following all the social and more details to come. Yeah. We are also going to be dropping some of our summer collection with Warren James. Ooh, hell yes. Who's got the t-shirts? Is this a Warren James t-shirt? This, I don't know. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Nice, Jason. That is it. These bad boys. This, actually, I really liked when it got in because it very much reminds me of Cleveland Heights. It is. It is a Heights feel. It really is. It's got that vintage-y feel to it. It's got the nice color on there that makes you feel, gives you some good nostalgia. We're going to be dropping two tees, a crew neck, a hoodie, and finally, the boyfriend whistle. That's right. Hey, long overdue. Get in here, Brandon. Give him a little bit of that whistle. Nice. He got the dog behind you's attention. Oh, he. So, all you ladies out there looking to get a little bit of that whistle, I'm going to get some chores done around the house by your significant other. Like my dad said, sometimes you just need a swift kick in the ass, you know? Or a whistle. Yeah, you can check out all of this stuff on kelseyclubhouse.com. All of our new merch, whistles. It is a one-stop shop for anything you guys are interested in buying within the New Heights universe. Yes, sir. A lot of brands that Travis and I collaborate with all through that website. So, you can find it all there, kelseyclubhouse.com. Also. This Friday, when we have, we'll be having another bonus episode, a Father's Day voicemail. Ooh, how about it? And we've got some bonus clips from a few of our recent guests that we've been saving and we are going to make sure that you guys don't miss out on the fun and the laughs. So. That's right. Yeah, we'll have some of that for you as well. Well, that's it for new news brought to you by Xfinity, which brings us to Out of the House. Out of the House. Brought to you by Home Depot. Anything you need. All you need is at Home Depot, all right? You need fucking anything. Including stuff out of the house. Yeah, to get out of the house, you go to the Home Depot, get more stuff to be out. out of the house and then you're that's why it's a perfect segue into jason did a little goalkeeping with tim howard i did i did i did i was uh how is this so i've been interested in penalty kicks all right penalty kicks decide a lot of world cup games i still remember vividly this guy jens the german goalkeeper i believe it was the 98 world cup i guess okay it's a quarterfinal game in the world cup it comes down to penalty kicks and he goes in his sock and he pulls out a note card and he proceeds to guess which direction the shooter is shooting all four times he saves two of them and they end up winning and then proceed to win the world cup and i'm still like what the fuck was on that note card and it's just crazy to me that the biggest sporting event in the world uh comes down to this very niche thing that really doesn't have much to do with soccer it's a very specific thing to penalty kicks and one in five games is decided this way and i've always wondered what's going through the goalkeeper's heads how do you even realize it was one in five one in five that's elimination one five elimination games it gets that wow it's that common i mean the the game the games end up being tied after that first ot or however much longer they play first 90 minutes well but they they go to an overtime first and then if it's tied after the overtime period i think it goes through a hundred 20 minutes i think something like that whatever whatever it is um i'm sorry i also just love watching them and i've always wondered how does a goalkeeper choose what side how does a shooter choose what side what's the technique behind it so we engulfed i engulfed myself in the penalty kick world and recruited the best usa goalkeeper of all time tim howard to teach me a thing or two hell yeah and this is all on the youtube channel it is it is we have some clips i think that they sent over that uh i don't know what they sent over but oh fucking brandon let's do this hopefully we sent over some good ones did you have the jersey on i got a little bit of a soccer goalie jersey on right now that's that's what i'm saying trav that jersey would have been real good who the fuck is 17 no chance no chance at all so what so tell me tell me what you're thinking here fast fast what tim told me tim told me fast feet oh oh and it's the other way it's the other way they really sent the fun ones over so this is all at st joe's university with the team i got one i got one i don't know if that's the one that didn't go in that's the one that i saved did you touch any of them i'm not gonna give it away you gotta watch the video okay all right my bad my bad i did anyway end up saving a kick as you saw from that day yeah i mean listen the stats behind penalty kicks are the goal is not if you're saving one in five you're doing a good job if you save the goal in a penalty kick shootout you want to save two because if you save two your chances of winning the game are through the roof the goal is to save them all but i hear you on like yeah it's just not gonna happen i used to so i would always say the hardest thing in pro sports is hitting a baseball because if you do it one in five four times you're like one of the best players in major league baseball right saving penalty kicks is hard the the percentage chance is way lower um it is a very hard thing to do you're trying to guess left right they'll even go right down the middle on you then they can mix up the tempo they can't stop as kickers but they can slow down speed up play with the tempo and all that it is extremely hard to uh to i mean you're guessing yeah so anyways um yeah that video is out now on my youtube channel so you can check that out and that was a fun out of the house and shout out to tim howard for uh show me uh you know a thing or two usa great that's right gotta love that well i can't wait to jump on youtube and check this one 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the easier it is to get stuck on repeat same commute same coffee order you know how it goes all right yep i sure do like when your brain gets hit on autopilot and you're running on a loop every single day that's where mentos gum comes in popping a crisp cool piece of their gum is like unlocking a new mindset to take on the day that's right just one piece of fresh mint or spearmint gum and suddenly you're thinking maybe it's time to go to the gym to switch things up like putting out some music and heading outside rather than eating the same sad desk lunch ah it sounds small but that's the whole point mentos gum helps you refresh the mundane by leveling up with a hit of cool freshness refresh the everyday with mentos say yes to fresh with mentos gum all right let's get to zach and julie ertz i'm gonna talk a little football or football all the between that's right and uh this conversation is brought to you by hubspot our guests today have a combined two world cups bronze medal two concaf championships two-time u.s soccer player of the year three pro bowls a super bowl championship and they hold the philadelphia eagles franchise record for most receptions in a single season let's go they're maybe the most athletically accomplished couple in all the sports we have the urchins zackers and julie fire up man how's it going guys how's the offseason treating you yeah we're doing great we're here uh it's already uh summer summer in arizona so hitting 100s already this week so it's it's hot you guys choose to live out there just because you know when you go outside you're gonna get a good nice sweat sweat all the toxins all the beers you've been drinking all the wine you've been drinking i mean you guys know how it is as you get older the warm weather feels good on the joints it's just nice to walk outside already have your full lather going you don't have to worry about warming up really old age get out of here get out of here how is the body feeling though brother oh it's good we're in a good spot we're like uh five almost six months now from from surgery um so just training every day doing everything i can to get back to where i was obviously it's a it's a long process it's uh there's some long days or some long weeks some long months but julie's been there every step of the way helping me out i got a phenomenal team around me as well so it's tough but at the end of the day we're just trying to stack these days right now the the three boys are keeping him busy so for sure that's right you beat me to it i was about to say what's harder the rehab or chasing the three kids around um definitely especially Especially early on when I was like immobile and being useless on the couch and watching Julie chase around the three maniacs and me just over there, just worried that someone's going to jump off the couch straight into my knee. That was probably the most stressful part of the rehab, honestly. We don't have a dog, but I imagine that's what people feel like that have dogs when they're rehabbing. Yeah. Our house is so loud. We like jokingly call them the Monstars. Like they're, it's like, as you guys know, with having brothers, he's one of four boys. I have to like warn people when they come in, like, just so you know. Like it is so loud in here. And Jordan Hicks came over to our house the other day to go to dinner and he goes, he walks in the house and goes, I think I can smell the testosterone in here. Let's go. I gotta love it. Julie, you getting excited for this world cup or what? Dude, I'm so excited. We're going to be there at the first game. So I'm even more excited and we're going to take Madden. So like he loves soccer. So just the joy to like share it. And I'm, you know, I'm not, we're not pushing it at all, but like he likes it and like asks about it. Watches it with me, watches it with Zach. So it's like, yeah, I'm stoked. Like my heart's pounding out of his excitement. How do you feel about that, Zach? Are we, are you okay with, I mean, they're both fall sports, right? They are fall sports. What's going to happen here? I mean, as you both know, there's so many sports that translate to football. I don't know if football is a transferable skill besides the mindset aspect. So I'm all for trying all these soccer, basketball, baseball, because football will always be there if he wants it. But I'm not pushing him on anything. If you ask him, if you ask him right now, what he wants to play, he's going to say football. And unfortunately he wants to play tight end. So for us, it's just, it's a fun season of life. You can always do club sports and club teams and whatnot. There's ways you can do both these days. And I agree. I feel like Peewee football, you don't gain much from doing that. I think you gain more playing a sport like soccer where you develop footwork and coordination and endurance. You do baseball, hand-eye coordination. And gymnastics, even my kids do gymnastics. I couldn't do any of that stuff. All the team sports here, you're going to get that camaraderie aspect of it. So, I mean, it's, it's kind of pick your poison, but I hear you guys at that young age, it's kind of, I don't know if, if football is the favorite, it's almost like, yeah, maybe just try some other sports to make football easier. You know, especially in the tight end world, you're going to get asked to do everything. What does he play in soccer? Chase. He's only like, he'll be four in August. So he, they just chase, like, honestly, like the craziest part. That's too funny. I was like, Oh, this is a new position that we just created for him. I'm just like, I'm an idiot. That's so good. It is funny though, because he talks about doing like multi-sport, but it's like, it's kind of confusing him because for his like first game, when they go to line up for kickoff, um, Madden was in a three point stance to start the kickoff. Let's talk about intimidation. Yeah, exactly. He was like staring him down. It's the funniest video. We were like, I'm laughing, honestly, the entire like time of the game and, you know, keeping my mouth shut. I cheer really loud, but I'm just like zipped. He's four. So it's pretty funny. Well, this leads in really well to our first kind of topic here. We have a little section called football versus football. We're going to ask you soccer and football questions as the resident experts in our lives, so let's go first question. Which one is the real football? Ooh, you can go first. Well, I'm obviously going to say soccer. What a gentleman. He just knows he's about to get destroyed. Soccer for sure, because I'm pretty sure soccer was developed way before like y'all started catching the ball and then you barely use your feet and sometimes you can go with a game without like a kick. I mean, really, I guess punt counts, but like, I mean, you could go technically without having a kick the entire game. I would agree there. Unfortunately, I would agree because I feel like their game has been around a lot longer than ours. And why did we call it football in the first place? I would love an explanation of why it was called football from the start. But of course, I'm going to defend our American football to the death. But at the end of the day, if we go, if we go over to Europe, it's, I mean, it is a tough argument. We run on our feet, Zach. Everything starts from the ground up. You know that. Yes, you're right. Thank you. That is what I mean. That's how I need to end the argument and walk away just with that. And it's soccer. They wear the long socks over the shin guards. So it looks like they have socks. What? Don't you guys wear socks? You guys wear socks? We okay? Okay. Okay, Julie. Good point. Fair enough. Good point. We have long socks. Julie, have you ever, have you ever tried to kick a field goal? So my dad actually kicked at LSU. He was a kicker. So I like grew up kind of like, like he would go and train kids to like kick and punt. So like, I have an awareness of how to do it, but yeah, I mean, it's very similar mechanics. It's a little different, but yeah. So what's our farthest field goal? I got to know this. We got to know. We got to, people need to know this. Have we done distance? I think she could probably hit 30 yards, 30 yards. When we were in college, we would do like a PK shootout and I was in goalie and she was the PK taker. And it was a really, it was a really hard to play goalie. And it blows my mind how close that PK is, dude. I know it, it, it is literally, it feels like 10 feet away. You got a fucking insane. They go, at least actually stop those at a times, man. No doubt. Yeah. They say if you, if you can stop two of them in the, in a PK shootout, you're like gonna win. Usually fucking one. One, one is still good, but two is like, you're almost guaranteed to win it. And then one in five of the world cup elimination rounds usually are decided by PKs. It's not even playing the sport. It comes down to like this very niche thing. And I don't know. I love, I selfishly, I love it. It's so electric. Yeah. It's so fucking electric. It's so fun. Do you remember there was a German goalkeeper and he was like the first one that pulled the little note card out of his sock and he was reading it while the guys are coming up. And he was like, oh, I'm going to win. And he had his like little scouting report. And now they like put it on the water bottle and all that stuff. But I, and he, he guessed right every time. And I was, it still stands out to me. No, it is crazy. Like the stat world of sports and how it's like intertwined is like pretty insane. Like the stuff we looked at before world cup was insane. Is it as simple as like, Hey, you, if you, this goalie, if you kick it right, you're more likely to score X percent of time. Or is it more what you do well? Or is it like, Hey, you're going to win. Is it like, hey, if the person before you kicked left, then if you kick right, then if you kick high, then kick low, I'm probably way. That seems more like a mental game that I'm not ready for. I'd rather just kick it in the net. I'm not using myself now. No, I would say it's more the opposite. It's more the goalkeeper's stats and understanding, like, players. Like, they go back in the archives and, like, look at stuff. And, I mean, they have it for the kickers, I think, for that, like, making it way less, like, crazy. Like, where you should kick it, like, in the goals, like, where the corners, what the pace is, is better for the keepers, like, certain keepers. But, yeah, I feel like it's more goalkeeper look at stats than the actual kicker. How many PKs did you take in your career? Very little. That's a great question. Yeah. They always gave me, like, number eight in the lineup. That just means when it matters most. If it goes into extra PKs, when we need it most. Yeah, I was waiting. I was waiting for my moment. So, it wasn't that I wasn't ready. I didn't. What was your side? Your left side? Right side? Right side. Push it? Push it. Nice, Jason. Since you guys have both, you are literally the only couple that has both, which trophy is better, the World Cup or the Lombardi? This feels ridiculous. This is a ridiculous question. I don't even like the Lombardi. It's a terrible trophy. I can tell you the looks. The, like, the World Cup look is, like, very simple and, like, but if you're talking about, like, you know, the Lombardi, it's a terrible trophy. You know, every four years is this opportunity. Like, I don't think there's really a, you know. I'm surprised she didn't go to her world conversation about how we don't play a world. There's no world champion in football because you only play the Americans. We're implied. There's nobody. I mean, we're so good. We're just better than the rest of the world. That's how it works, right? That is that American mentality, Jason. You guys are ridiculous. Who was more excited for the other? When, when, when the Eagles won the Super Bowl or when the U.S. Women's National Team got the World Cup, who was more excited? Zach for Julie or Julie for Zach? There's only one right answer here, Zach. Of course. There's only one. I was excited for Julie. We were in France for a really long time. Wait, can I, I have a story for that. Well, can I tell them the story? Yeah, that's where I mean, we're here at this point. Okay. I would say Zach was, I would say Zach was more excited only because of this story. So after you win. So in the 2019, we were in France. It's really hot, like super hot. And there's no AC there. You just need to like know that in that. And I was there forever, mind you, because I was such a supportive husband. Continue. So we get to sit like they get to sit so close and you get to see your family after, you know, how in the Super Bowl, your family gets to run out. You're going to celebrate with them. They don't get to go on the field. You like walk over to the side by the bleachers. And I have this like beautiful photo and I'm like hyperventilating because I'm like laughing. But he goes, he's like, congratulations. Like, I'm so proud of you. Like, like, wow. What an accomplishment. Like, can we go home now? It's so hot. Can we get back to that American AC? least he was great and so supportive so i don't say that we were like laughing just because the poor man was just like sweating you guys are big guys like not having ac for two months i mean you're there for two months if not longer like with training before that's awesome though it was also like record highs in france one of those weeks we were out there record high so i was dying out there i'm a cold room sleeper guys i'm cold room sleeper come on dude we're all in the same boat there dude i get furious when i get to the room and it won't let me put it below 65 i get i go down and i confront the front desk what do you guys i paid for this room i need this ac no i'm i'm right there with you i i feel like that's one of the reasons america is such an obese country it's because of ac it makes you comfortable being fat i'm just being honest you don't have to deal with the ramifications of it oh man it's too convenient to sit in the house if i wanted to be fat anywhere it's give me the america and all the ac france that's a tough one that's a tough one that's a tough one that's why they're thin they're thin out there in france this one's very simple what sport is more physically demanding i want to say football but the running is crazy in soccer i would rather block holodinata than run martin miles soccer players are running i'll take that one hit for two seconds i don't give a shit yeah over and over and over i can't run two miles right now you'd be like 150 pounds if you play soccer you're losing 140 you're losing half your body to go play soccer it's uh i will say though one time i we did i tried to do one of her runnings and it was i tapped out after like rep two it was horrible even now you got to tell us what it was i don't even i think it was just like you run the length of the field and then you walk 18 yards and then you have to run the whole length of the other field and you just like continue to do that for until you pass out essentially pass out or throw up and i passed out after two of them no i i agree i think if you're going to like physicality of like getting tackled by these ginormous men like that would be the only thing that like is so different but i think if you're talking about like taxing i mean you guys like after 20 seconds you're like oh my god i'm like let's come on in together and like let's talk about some things and then like we'll go again that's too good all right julie question specifically for you why historically has the u.s women's national team been so much more competitive than the men's u.s national team in well i think the investment of like the women's national team i think we started in 85 was our first year and i think before that was before any other country kind of really put money into their federation and so that i think the commitment to the players that were before right like michelle acres being ham like all these players that really like invested their time and effort to make it what it is today but yeah i think the biggest thing is really probably just the investment in the federation to kind of allow a spot for the players to you know make it is what it is now right like we wouldn't have been as successful without those players like getting paid nothing like doing it right because they believed in the game and to make it like you know a dream for us right to be able to pay and do that for a job also for the from the men's side most of the high athlete men in the u.s play either football or basketball would you guys agree with that like i feel like we're not getting as much of our high caliber athletes playing soccer that somebody's not true me and jason say this all the time the best ticket in american sports is uh on the court at an nba game if we got some basketball guys like if lebron james could you imagine those big feet trying to dribble the ball though that's the only thing yeah i don't know how many like even if you were putting goat like who's the best players to ever play soccer like i don't think they're averaging the size of six seven but i i'm not sure i do think people are starting to play it a lot earlier and like committed to it now um and they're making really top players out there but yeah i mean i will say like when it when it comes to american youth sports you kind of just do one sport a season like growing up it was baseball in the spring it was football in the fall it was basketball in the winter and you watch some of these documentaries uh from these other countries some of these soccer greats it's like they're playing soccer in the fall they're playing indoor soccer in the winter they're playing beach soccer in the summer and spring and that's all they're doing like if you played baseball your whole life none of your skills are translating to soccer and so i feel like in america we're just like we're we're creating this like good at a lot of different things and you're developing the athlete whereas in other countries you're developing soccer specific athletes because that is the pinnacle in pretty much every other country as you can tell we have this conversation all the time we talk about it seriously though all right we'll try to play off football and world cup soccer what's a horrible comparison i know i know that listen i don't like the question any more than you do i don't like but i had to ask i should have just skipped it i think uh playoff football is harder at the beginning of the world cup when it's like the round robin best of four teams in the top two events and then from there it's probably pretty similar yeah that's good that's a very good answer yeah you played in a world cup in canada and france what makes a city a good host gosh those were both incredible hosts but i will say um i liked france a little bit better because you're only in one country the size of canada is so big like we would fly we were in like vancouver and we'd go all the way to like ottawa to i'm gonna act like i know where everything is like to toronto like but it's just such a big travel for just sometimes you have a shorter time to recover a bigger time so thing with france is like we could bus to like the next place or train and so that part was just nice because it just felt like you didn't have to that recovery piece wasn't as big as when we were playing kind of all over um so that's what's interesting because this world cup for the men's is you know it's attached to canada attached to mexico so there's a lot of travel kind of going around so great host cities for sure like just because the cities are incredible and they'll make it that way but as a player i like loved like having it so close because we would bus and it's like you know the the way they decorated the city it was like incredible wouldn't you say like we would go and like you'd go into a bakery and it was like on the window so like really felt like so like filtered of like this is women's soccer world cup and it's like right here like that's what i love that part well this one is a much easier one i think what is the better chant the eagles e-a-g-l-e-s chant or the i believe that we can win we will win chant for the u.s soccer are you gonna answer that one no you got you started off on the field okay well the eagles one is a better chant i think because it's so yes what it is and like personal to that i i think i do love it because it's so bad like i love the fan group that like started it um like the american nut laws i'm sure started that whole thing so i love it i think we just like kind of threw it out there and we were like you know we're going to win it but i think it's like yes we have one let's go and so i think we're so on board with this by the way yeah yeah we're we're trying to find new chants for the american soccer team 100 do you but it is fun when you win the chair when you go like this and you're singing the song when you win it like it's it's incredible it rocks yeah the usa chant is awesome tribe do you have any that maybe you or someone you know really well now we're thinking zach i didn't even go there we got to get the creative juices going over there i'll ask tay see what she has yeah there you go there we go yeah i just i believe that we will win feels so like yeah why the fuck would you not believe me i don't know what's this it feels very i i get it we're the underdog a lot of times we're trying to exude confidence but i don't know i was over in brazil and uh the brazilians were doing a chant uh for the men's uh u.s world cup down there and i was like oh what do you what are they saying it was brazil versus chile and they're like and i'm like what are they saying and i like asked one of the brazilians actually they said we just said we came here to fuck chile and i'm like that's what i'm talking about that's a confident chant that just exudes confidence yeah and the ramifications if you lose are just as strong ah yeah that's one thing if you're saying that when you got neymar doing like cartwheels and backflips over people it's like you know we gotta get one of those guys before we start to say we're about to fuck you up i guess we'll ask both of you as we ask all of our guests what is your welcome to football moment i don't know if you remember but my rookie year i missed like the whole off season and so i wasn't able to come till mini camp or till training camp excuse me and seeing michael vick like in the first row in team meeting with insane as a guy that grew up watching him and playing with him on video games but but on the practice field you though line wasn't there but chip kelly used to have us do this like five yards apart tackling drill and i was as work yeah i didn't know any better and trent cole and connor barwin are on the other side and it's a five yard box and if you had to avoid them you're kind of viewed in a different light so it was like 10 minutes of just getting picked up and driven into the ground and my shoulder i'm pretty sure i had like a grade two or three ac sprain after that i mean it's like a week of practice because it was just trent cole and connor just picking me up and throwing me to the ground cincinnati bearcats finest baby there you go getting after you man fuck that sounds absolutely miserable i remember my uh my rookie year we had a uh we had a this uh special teams drill called the star drill and it's essentially the same thing you would get put between like a five-year-old and a five-year-old and you would get put between like a five-year-old and a five-year-old and you would get put between like a five-year-old and a five-year-old and you would get put between like a box or they set up some cones and you had to it was like basically simulating the original kickoff where one guy would be like back to you turn around and have to like try and block a guy and and if you stopped them or like you pushed them out of the the lane you won and vice versa if you got past them you won and i remember i i felt like i was fucking dominating i was like fucking giving them the hezi i was giving them like i was running routes i was doing a whole nonsense like shit you wouldn't do if you had to go and tackle somebody on kickoff and and i actually did a spin move on a guy one time and the coach came up to be coach tome i love still special teams coach to this day came up to me he said hey kelsey don't ever fucking do that again you'll you're never gonna do you're gonna get killed if you do that in the game don't ever do that again and that was your last rep in special teams altogether exactly exactly all right you don't have to do that again you don't have to do that again you don't have to fucking get it get out of here kid julie what do you got for us i mean probably i mean not as as similar to that but probably as close as you could get um i played defense so obviously i had to go up against abby wombeck who's just like known for being in the air so probably just getting like blasted in the face and just like like trying to like suck it up and you're just like they're like oh yeah you good and like i'm some of it i'm like was it it seemed a little excessive like was it just like welcome to the like welcome as being a rookie or like and you're like you're like you're like yeah i'm good and it like hurt for like the rest of my pride i was like i just want to go home but no probably something like that i can't think of anyone where i'm like or like you know unfortunately like late for a meeting i know that was a hard one for me when i i fell asleep because we're doing double days and i'm like this young buck fell asleep through a meeting showed in late and i was like not good yeah gotta get that cup of joe yeah this is before my coffee obsession happened that's probably what's what the trauma started my coffee obsession 100 percent it got for me i was doing the same thing dozing off i got big red yelling at me to stay up in meetings i feel like i just fuck like got cut uh the way he yelled at me i was just like i'm fucking out of here tomorrow one of the vets came up to me and said slap me on the arm and said go get a cup of coffee no matter how how much you hate the taste you're gonna appreciate what it does for you i'm like no all right and i can't go into a meeting without a cup so you know do you feel julie like center defensive midfield is the equivalent of tight end on a soccer pitch like it feels like you're you kind of got to be good at everything a little bit i'm making this up i'm grasping i was like i didn't know that was like i didn't know that was like i would say i see it i see it for sure you think you think so i was gonna say more the six more than you think i feel like depending how you play i was gonna say more like quarterback style because that's how they want to start now like they want this six to kind of be but like the quarterback doesn't play defense so i guess that's kind of useless point either but i guess so a little bit of everything you do need to know a little bit so that's probably a better comparison i don't know where that came from but we're gonna get to our next question we gotta ask all right is it true zach is the reason jason showed up to training camp with blonde hair oh yeah yes it is true what was the uh bet again are we allowed to talk about it oh we're allowed to talk about it trying to remember right now i remember what was he it was uh it was the off season where it was like looking and i was getting traded well before training camp that's what it was yes and i essentially showed hadn't been there all off season i had ankle surgery so i was missing otas anyway and i showed up for training camp with blonde hair i don't regret much about my time in philly or this career but the one thing i do regret is kind of that uh phase is showing up to blonde hair i liked it that's really all that matters honestly it definitely looks smooth it definitely looks smooth it definitely looks smooth i was fucking with it but it was like so obvious unfortunately that my time was probably coming to an end that jason was like bro when are you getting trade you're gonna get traded any day now if you're still on the team week one then i'll dye my hair i don't i had nothing to lose in this i don't think i had anything like oh if i'm on the team there was it was just seeing him every day i just wanted zach to have something to look forward to if he was still on the team like at least jason dyed his hair in a match and i will say jason aka guy fieri after that looks phenomenal the guy fieri street fighter combo now oh look at this guy that is that has to be our intern brandon just found the worst possible photo it looks like you're enjoying it you look like you're enjoying it that had to be the third day of pads that had to be the morning of the third day of week six padded practice after you just lose on monday night i don't think kylie liked your hair as much as i like zach's hair well now so we've talked about philadelphia exactly do you now that you've gone you know other places arizona obviously washington last year like do you have a favorite stop is it philadelphia please tell me it's philadelphia make sure i mean when you spend nine years somewhere you're gonna have always have a natural affinity for the place um and the time we were there got drafted at 22 spent the first nine years of my career there essentially and yeah i mean when you're there for so long you're always going to be have this special spot in your heart um unfortunately unlike you two i wasn't able to play my whole career there um but it's been a blessing to play for arizona and washington the past couple years um but yeah philly will always be special when you talk about the fight song even when you're on the other sideline when i was in washington the past few years it's still like subtly in the back of my mind go singing it as i'm over there watching it oh yeah it will always have a special place in our heart for sure zach you have the most receptions of any philadelphia eagle ever to play you have multiple fourth down conversions that led to the first super bowl ever in eagles history my only claim to fame is that i had a lot of stars and they were just like hey he's out there he's out there again he's doing it he's doing the thing again right you're forever an eagle like dude it was yeah anyways i still uh it was such a fun time having you in philadelphia i know you're still doing your thing so we can't wrap up the show reminisce too much you're still going to be someplace this year uh but um anyways yeah just want to go down memory lane there for a second what's your favorite memory from being a philadelphia eagle besides the super bowl i mean this is yeah the parade was obviously special um i think the thing i look back on fondest is like our core group of guys that we had together for a long period of time with you lane bg fletch myself like it wasn't easy all the time for any of us like there were times where like we would get killed in the media or whatever it was and it's like i always knew you four always had my back regardless of what we were going to and i hope you guys felt the same about me yep and it is a little emotional talking about i don't know why um but just like going through that i would say just being around the guys you know no one no one's gonna remember about how many yards or catches or starts we had but i do remember the day-to-day um grinding in the stories of you kicking over trash cans because you didn't like the way a coach was treating someone else or laying hiding your helmet or those are the things i remember about the day-to-day i don't remember in week 11 how many catches or yards or if we won or not um but i do remember like those sorts of things the most those are my favorite stories to hear because jason that was jason all day and every day growing up as a kid and some of the teams we got to play on i get i get to cherish some of those memories too but a good jason blow up always does the team well somehow it's somehow it's just like all right he's getting fired up let's fucking get this thing going baby i still owe the cleveland heights hockey program a foosball table that wasn't anybody's fault but yours yeah i know if we really want to go down memory lane that story of kicking over trash can is like level one out of a hundred stories i have that is the lowest story i've ever heard in my life but we're not going to shareable this is a family friendly program you'll give it for a roast yeah if there's ever a day to roast jason just bring him a lot that's right oh man a lot of a lot of material for my teammates so zach was just talking about what it was like being a former philadelphia eagle thinking about the teammates and you know the the memories there is the same thing with you oh yeah i think when you're just when you step away from something you don't realize how special it is just because yeah like when you're in you're so soul focused right like whatever the task is at hand of like you know i have to be the best player to do this I have to, so you're on all the time that you kind of forget to just like really understand, right? Like how cool this is. And I think stepping away from it and being retired for a couple of years, you're like, Whoa, like what a special time. And every time now I see somebody or like see a teammate from the past, it's like instant connection. Cause just nobody else understands, but that locker room. And I think that's the coolest part is like, regardless of everything, it's like, wow, those like, you've gone through something. And I think that's why I also just love sports so much is like the people that come in your life and you know, that support you, love you, teach you everything. Um, so yeah, I feel the same way. And I think even when you, my favorite thing is like when you get back together, like when you guys all got back together, uh, like recently and like all the Eagles guys together, it's like, you can see the joy. Yes. And like it exudes, like you see it because it's just like an instant connection. You go back right where it was before, like you left and it's the same thing. I got to see a couple of teammates this past week. And I just like, man, like, so, and it's just funny, right? You have those stories and like, nobody else can really like understand that. And it's like the only time you're like you, right? Like the full you now, I like, you know, have to mingle with other people like Zach's or not Zach's, uh, Madden's like classmates and stuff, but it's like, nobody knows those stories, right? Like with like their, so I love it. That's so cool. Zach, when you got drafted to Philly, did any part of you feel bad that it was over me? Yeah. There's no chance. They stole an opportunity for me to play with my brother. I think the better question is how long did it take you to get over me? He's still not over it. He's still to this day later. He plays a Pat Mahomes. He's still not over. Absolutely ridiculous. Chip Kelly. I get it. I get it. He smoked you in the pack 12 for years. Um, I didn't know at the time, like Jason was on the team already. I didn't really know the dynamic of that, but over the years, there's definitely been like Jason, you know, is that Travis was doing this. Maybe you should try that. And Jason trying to just let me know how amazing you were doing every game, even though I did, obviously I already knew as well. Stop it. Oh yeah. I wouldn't say I, I apologize, but it's not too late. Jason, you could come out of retirement. I know Creed Humphries still got it. Uh, maybe you could go too funny. Zach, do you have a Mount Rushmore tight ends? Obviously. Um, for me, I think Jason Witten is on there just cause he was the guy that like I always watched and someone I modeled my game after I would say travel would be on there. Um, obviously as a 2013 class member, phenomenal player. Um, I would say Gronk, obviously, um, probably the most dominant complete. Um, and you can't put yourself on Travis, put himself on very and I'm sure I'm going to forget someone, but I, I mean, Tony Gonzalez has like every tight end record ever. So I don't know how you could say that he's not on there as well. Um, TG. So I Julie, you got it. You got to give us yours. Mount Rushmore, women's soccer, U S women's soccer. Let's just say Mount Rushmore of women's soccer outside of the greatest era of women's soccer. I'm terrible at this. Pre-2012. Pre-2012. Okay. Um, pre-2012. Okay. So you have Michelle Eggers, Mia Hamm. You have, um, I mean, Julie Fowdy is one of my absolute favorite. Um, who am I missing? She's on there. Um, Christine Lilly. That's four. There you go. First one that came to my mind. So there it is. Boom. That I didn't play with. So now people are going to be like, well, how dare you not say this person? Very clear. Yes. All right. Well, it's all right. At least you didn't put yourself up there. Yeah, that's great. Well, congratulations to you guys. Awesome. Thanks for coming on. We really appreciate it. It's awesome talking to you guys. Yeah. Appreciate the stories. Appreciate the time. Zach, you already know how much love I got for your brother. There's been so much respect throughout years. Um, and you already know, still, still doing it for the class of 2013. Um, not, not a lot of us still doing it. Julie, being able to see you and your career from afar, you're literally one of the best ever do it. Appreciate you guys jumping on, having some fun with us and, uh, listen to us, make up some kind of nonsense true. Like we're bringing it back home, bringing it back home at the end of the day. No, no. We appreciate you guys, man. Yeah, this is funny. This is a great time. Alrighty. Thank you to Zach and Julie. Julie urged so much for coming on the podcast, man. They really are. I mean, I loved them when they were in Philadelphia. So happy to see that they're both still killing it. 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And the best part, you can bring a friend anytime. Black Card memberships start at $24.99 a month. Get strong at Planet Fitness. Join the club today in person, online, or on the free Planet Fitness app at planetfitness.com. All right. Now we get to a little bit of this jackassness. That's right. This conversation is brought to you by Mentos. GUM. Say yes to fresh and you're going to enjoy this Johnny Knoxville interview. Our guest today is a writer, actor, and bowl enthusiast from Knoxville, Tennessee. You know him from Walking Tall, Dukes of Hazzard, The Ringer, Mad Grandpa, and the new host of Fear Factor. But you also know him best as one of the creators and stars of the hit show movie series, Jackass. 92%ers, please welcome Johnny Knoxville. Johnny Knoxville. Hey, let's go. Jason coming in hot. That's right. That's right. I had to do it right. Johnny, do you have any idea how much you shaped our entire childhood and like the entire ethos of the 2000s? Dude, it's unbelievable. What is it like looking back for you? Please apologize to your mom for me. Who was great on Traders, by the way. She was. Oh, nice. Thank you. Yes. Thank you. Yeah, she didn't last long, but she was a fan. She was a fan favorite. Yes. She was into it. She was into it, though. What is it like, Johnny, like talking to people about how much the show inspired them, like what it meant to them? Like you had people glued to MTV, like ready for the next lifestyle. It still is. But it's I promise you, I remember immediately going to the grocery store and jumping in a shopping cart and getting tossed out of that thing. Yeah, it's wild because we didn't even think the show was going to get on television and nor did we. We didn't even think anyone was going to watch. So we were constantly surprised along the way and that it means something to people is just it blows us away because it's something we created with our friends. You know, it's very it's very odd. It's it's a very intimate thing to us, but it's kind of everyone's now. Was the original like pitch to MTV? Like, how did it how did how if you didn't think it was going to get on TV, how did you like get it? Up and running? Like, how did that kind of unfold? I was writing for different magazines and I was trying to pitch this idea to test self-defense equipment on myself, like stun gun, taser gun, pepper spray. And then I was going to shoot myself. Well, I did shoot myself with the bulletproof vest. And a lot of people wanted the article, but they didn't want they wanted to treat it as a negative pickup. Like, OK. "Send it to us when you're done." But I was broke, I needed someone to help me buy the uh taser gun stun gun pepper spray uh so jeff tremaine who became the director of jackass he was the editor of a skateboarding magazine he goes i'll give you the money and also why don't you film it while when you do it and uh that's kind of how it all began it started in skateboard videos yeah this is epic man and then we just took some of the things i did in skateboard videos along with some of the stuff bam was doing on the east coast and made like a 10 minute tape and gave it to uh different agents because jeff and i jeff tremaine the director went to high school with spike jones so spike was like a big video director and directing his first film so you took two guys who knew nothing but they knew spike jones so everyone thought suddenly we knew something we knew shit you know we just so that's kind of how we got an agent and uh an attorney and people to pay attention because we knew spite gotcha gotcha well jackass best and last how do you feel about it we loved it we both saw it thank you for giving us the little premiere to check it out before this some of the best skits i mean that's is that the the gist of it it's like you guys are compiling all of your favorite ones how did you get to the uh i don't even know if skits is the right word but the best uh yeah versions skits bits whatever you want to call them uh we've it's like half new footage and half of our favorite bits uh that we've ever filmed and spike jones directed a new open and a new close and uh we just wanted to do it one more time for us and for the fans and so that's how it all came together really it's brilliant the the opening is one of my favorite opens of all time man you get and there's and there's a bit of a new cast right yeah we have uh our newest and and oddly enough last cast member ever is a humanoid robot named one w larry and let me tell you he's not the smartest robot you ever met surprisingly good dexterity for a robot i was very surprised i'm not he has two different sets of hands right he has two different sets of hands the first set of hand are tiny little bitty fingers tiny but for the ones we did a little bit called the robot rectal exam he puts on these big steel rectangular fingers with a lot of right angles and steve-o really took one for the team how does that work how does how does steve-o he's got to bend over but does he raise his hand for that like how does it go to steve or do you guys are you picking out of a hat like who's choosing steve-o jeff and i will sometimes people will raise their hands for things sometimes the people will be written specifically for them but for that one we we just kind of landed on steve-o and jeff went and talked to him he's like yeah dude because steve-o from the first movie refused to put the toy car up his butt because his dad was uh upset over it and and i think that really got under his skin so now he's putting everything up his butt so i mean i'm just to really stick it to him yeah it's crazy yeah that was fun and adam ray the comedian does the voice of the robot and he's so funny yeah adam's super talented he kills it yeah no you guys did a great job with the robot and like trav said the intro very jackass intro like on another level i mean i don't want to give away too much i don't know what we can't give away but it if you love the jackass enjoys you're gonna love the intro for this movie i will say being older now and watching it i don't know if i'm gonna be able to do it again i don't know if i'm gonna be able to do it again i don't know how you feel johnny i feel more of like a sense of when i was younger just laugh out loud no care in the world for what's happening this guy now that i'm older i'm kind of like oh man why is he doing that like there's gonna be like i feel like i feel a sense of like there's ramifications for these decisions when i was younger i didn't think about that one bit well the culture has changed so much you know uh um just there's so much more information on like concussions and this and that and it and it does make you think like oh man i should have went to college but i didn't so i did what i could had to do to support my family but i mean i would honestly i would still be doing all the stuff i did before had it not been for the last concussion at the end of jackass forever it kind of sent me offline for six months and after that the doctor said you're done and i'm like oh my god i'm gonna die i'm gonna die i'm gonna die i'm gonna die and i talked to my kids and wife and i said look i'm i'm i'm done so uh but had that not happened i probably still would have been doing it and i think ultimately it worked out for the best because you know you only got you only get so many chances i believe no doubt no doubt but i'm good now and now we're talking about robot rectal exams that's right that's right we can move on from that it is just sorry i don't want to it is just crazy how sometimes those things like did you have a lot of concussions oh i know travis had a couple documented i've been knocked out of a few games yeah right because you're like running that you're like in the in the heat of it on the line i can get blind i can get blindsided a little bit uh different than jason can um yeah and having the ball having the ball could put you in some awkward positions but i've been fortunate that uh that i've only had a few and um yeah you ever blindside jason when he gets out of his truck god damn it i wish man i wish hi my name is travis kelsey and this is the blind side well you do have one of the best football uh jackass moments of all time with jared allen what was that like oh man he can hit yeah he can and he's a nice guy but so before he was really having trouble like he was feeling bad about what he was about to do and jermaine good man yeah and jermaine who's very sympathetic goes your job is to murder knoxville's face and then he like saw that we wanted him to go full speed and then he got into it thank goodness it's like when i fought butterbean in the uh swap meet he showed up that morning i'm like butterbean i need you to go full speed today he goes johnny i cannot do that i'm like i need you to go full speed he goes you don't gotta beg me i said oh shit but it's not funny unless you go full speed you know oh no you gotta go full send you can tell if it's not full speed and this really is not real do you have a which sport was the the hardest hitter the one that was the most brutal of all the like sports specific ones you've done well i think my career as a bullfighter has taken the most punishment jason is this is this where your like love for like running with the bulls started yeah no i don't know i i i don't know i just i i think when we we had a farm that we would go to in west virginia and you see animals for the first time and you see a horse and you see a cow and it's like jarring for how large those creatures are yeah and uh and bull riding watching it is just one of the most insane things you can watch so obviously seeing you go and do things that no sane human being would decide to go do like how do you get that in the back of your head like i would watch the cowboy poker stuff on youtube and think that is insane yeah you would just be out there by yourself like right taking full-on shots where did where did your affinity of bulls come from i love bulls they absolutely hate you and really and they hate movement they don't care about colors or anything like that if something's moving they want to make it stop and that's all we needed you know it's like the perfect perfect thing animal to shoot with because you're going to get footage and i think a lot of my love for them comes from like all the great footage we've gotten i know and like what was going to happen to me was kind of uh inconsequential really i was just wanting the footage so uh yeah they're wonderful animals they're so smart too you can't like fake the same way twice with the bull because If you go left that second time, he's going to be sitting there waiting on you. Oh, no. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, my gosh, man. He had to learn the hard way. I know a lot about bulls, and I kind of learned on the job. They're amazing. So you're going to run with the bulls? Is that the idea? That is a life ambition of mine. There's been a bunch of guys tweeting at me drinking beers. They won't stop drinking beers until I agree to run the bulls with them. I see you guys. I just want to let you know, I see your tweets. I really want to go. I was just trying to figure out the time that it works out. It looks like just so much fucking fun. I think you'll get some footage. You got to be careful, though, because those Spanish bulls, they don't blunt their horns. They got swords sticking out of their head. Oh, man. I'm going to have to go with some Kevlar. Get some Kevlar on the major arteries and stuff. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We've got to protect that gym dog, too. that's the main thing to protect oh man he's already got four girls he's good yeah you save you on a vasectomy that's right it'll save me a procedure so out of all the movies do you have like a favorite one uh that you guys have done or like is it uh is it always just the the the one coming out is is the focus and is the favorite but um um wow each of them are different to me you know the first one's like uh it's almost innocent uh compared to what it became uh the number two was our most unhinged one um it was everyone was just on their worst behavior at that time and i got super obsessed and wouldn't stop shooting even i was on weekends i was i had a cameraman following me around i was running into street signs and trying to jump uh parking meters just whatever i was literally running into stop signs and they had an intervention to get me to stop shooting because i wouldn't quit and um and yeah i don't know each of them special and uh but i think maybe number two is possibly the cast's favorite um of course uh we we love the one we have coming out but um it was just a lot of and it the the behavior got worse when the cameras were off just a rowdy bunch did you always feel like you had to one-up each other was that kind of like the the running bit uh amongst everyone so i didn't want to do uh uh yet the answer is yes but it it comes out of a place of competition i didn't want to do a second movie because i thought how would we top the first and that got in my head to the point where i was like we're done and uh but tremaine the director goes you don't have to we don't have to top it we just have to be funny right that made me relax and uh then i felt like that was the i i got past the block so but yeah if someone gets a great bit the other guys are like i need a better bit which is great for me because i produced this turkey too how much stuff ends up making it inverse not me like how many bits are you guys doing how do you decide what makes it into the movie is that all is it strictly your decision or is this you and tremaine's is this well i try i'm spiking i will make those decisions and we always overshoot because you never know what's going to work you'll take a high concept idea which you think this is going to be gold and it doesn't turn out at all and you'll take another idea a non-idea somebody go get a tube of super glue and bring it back to set and you'll get an amazing bit just with that because it just it just depends on you and sometimes you'll have bits that are similar in the same movie and you're like well we can't use both of those or we'll have too much gross stuff or too much blunt force trauma or too much of this so we kind of spread it all out i gotta talk to you about one of your most iconic bits uh did you think that bad grandpa would turn into what it is oh my god anxiety i uh we we we pitched two movies to the uh studio that day one bad grandpa and another it's a karate film with willie nelson and we wanted them to not pick bad grandpa it was with uh the broken lizard guys and willie nelson we wanted to do that film and then they picked bad grandpa and you've never seen three guys walk out of a studio who just got a movie green lit more depressed because it's going to be hard right because the whole movie's predicated on reactions and it's like what if we get nothing i'm gonna have to we'll have to turn this into a jackass film and then it had a story but we figured it out and um uh you know i had to sit through makeup like three hours each day and i was bummed about that but after the first day of shooting we got good stuff didn't make the film but we got good stuff and i used the time in the makeup chair to prepare for the day and and again all my anxiety went away after that and i was like we got this so bad grandpa oh man that was that was uh that was fun my it was my dad's favorite thing we ever did you know yeah yeah yeah my old man loved bad grandpa irving's a real uh he's a dirty old man you get any inspiration maybe from your dad oh yeah my dad was kind of like there's a reason i became what i did um because my dad would uh he would prank his friends all the time you know with uh got it making he had a tire company and he would make his employees x lax milkshakes or he would send them letters from the health department saying they contracted a venereal disease and it would be on rubber stamped vd clinic on the letter signed dr harland c titmore and people would go to the health department with this letter or the wives would meet the husband the wives and the wife's mom would meet the husband when he got home from work that day it was a it was a joke letter right but sure the wives would be upset one guy pulled a gun on him for it uh and he would also stage gun fights at his christmas party uh and a christmas party yeah he would have two guys get in the fight now you guys want to get in a fight and then you're going to start pull out your guns and start shooting and then everyone runs out into the street so the next year there's two new guys he goes hey guys so you guys are going to start fighting and then you're going to pull out your guns and start firing at each other and it'll scare everyone you know out of the party so they did what dad told them to do and they pulled out their blank guns obviously and start firing each other but dad had given everyone else in the party blank guns so they fired at those two dudes and those two dudes ran off oh my god yeah oh this all adds up this all adds up what does your dad have a if bad grandpa was his favorite bit what was your dad's least favorite he didn't like when i did stunts my my family didn't like to watch me do stunts because of the you know um because you know i go night night sometimes we're gonna do a quick round of jackass superlatives oh shit yeah that will be quick because there's probably two all right all right worst idea worst idea oh the for a special we owe to mtv we owe three specials usually when we're promoting i had an idea to do uh for the first movie a town hall where everyone can ask all the guys questions because we were in the news a lot for copycats and everything and not only did all the guys show up wasted me too everyone like i supplied the booze most of the pills and it was just a shit show like the guys were answering the worst questions possible to whatever they the town asked kurt loder moderated it and at one point dave england who's wasted keeps jumping off the stage and we're like dave we stopped three times dave you got to stop jumping off the stage because you're getting close to people you cannot do that okay okay 30 seconds later he jumps off the stage bumps the podium and the podium bumps into a lady and she falls back on her butt she was fine but it was hor like like what what did we tell you anyway long story short our first movie cost six million dollars that lady sued mtv for seven million and uh got got her money oh my gosh yeah oh so that was a pretty bad idea yeah yeah it was more of a series of bad ideas you how can i make this worse compound yeah compound who wants some pain pills what do you think your proud proudest moment on jackass was that i did this with my friends i've created something with my friends and and we've been through so much together and uh that's that's my uh i think that's my uh most proud moment that and making history with the robot rectal exam uh you know yeah yeah jason i'm just spitballing here i have the robot from the movie and okay what do you what do jason kelsey and this is the robot rectal exam part do what do you think jay i still haven't had a human rectal exam i need to go oh my goodness well i mean then it's a no-brainer right travis yeah you don't know what you don't know all righty moving on do you have a skit that didn't hurt as bad as you think you thought going into it uh you know i'm kind of somewhere else when all that's happening um yeah usually afterwards uh it'll hurt um you know what hurts like because sometimes you just like a bull runs you over or butterbean knocks you out you're just you're snoozing so but i tell you what sucks is pepper spray it just oh yeah it's the ad for 20 minutes it's you it's the worst feeling and then you get home later that night you shower and it again re-ups yeah yeah so yeah pepper spray i've had a little taste of that that was yeah it sucks i didn't sign up for it though um yeah um what about a skit that uh you couldn't believe they let you do i i i think uh the when dunn stuck the little toy car up his ass in the first movie uh we're all real proud of that one yeah yeah getting those x-rays back oh my god that lady who first looks at the x-ray that look on her face and that doctor was you couldn't cast a doctor that was better than that dude i don't remember eating this oh i don't think you ate that well how do you think it got there maybe you stuck it up your ass oh my god my god that guy was amazing oh my gosh is there a stunt you just you never got to do that you always wanted to well there's a we have a list of like a few hundred pages long of unshot ideas but i think the two of the ones at the top um i always wanted to get a jackass flag on the moon i'm still trying and oh yeah and dave england who uh the aforementioned dave england who cost uh viacom seven million dollars only has one nut and we always wanted to get him like a new nut and we decided we want to get him a new nut that lights up and and we did and for 15 years we've been trying to do it and the last second the lawyers always kill it and we're like oh my god we're gonna get him a new nut and i can show you i can maybe show you oh it's it's off but my our special effects makeup guy who does the makeup for bad grandpa he can build anything and he made a nut that for dave and because we were that close this time and he put like a battery in that thing or what yeah i let me see if i can turn my phone on just so you can see how fucking bright dave was going to be on fire that one i'm still upset over oh that's that would have been one of my favorites i already know yeah yeah yeah do you have a knoxville quote you hear all the time which which one is the one that you get thrown at you the most um probably is uh it's either get out of my bar or is butterbean okay he's iconic he's iconic yeah my personal favorite i've got bursitis is one of my favorites that is that that fucking golf i didn't even know what that was and now i have it i actually have it so i got i got what i deserve it comes full circle yeah i didn't say i got chlamydia you know but uh because it gets full circle in your mind what's the greatest stunt of all time oh um like you mean stunt or prank yes yeah my bad yeah yeah i think uh the the high five was pretty great the silence of the lambs from jackass forever when we turned out the lights and started tormenting the guys and another bit from the end of jackass number two which didn't age so well was the terror taxi bit when aaron puts on the uh dynamite vest and you know um i forgot about that one yeah we didn't put that one in because it's like maybe i didn't make it so well yeah i don't know i don't know if you can see but can you can you see yes this is going to be the nut way he's going to put it under this is what it would look like in someone's nut he's getting ready to turn it on stick with me okay that's that's the nut sec yeah it's tough like to not that didn't make we couldn't do it and i still it bugs me so bad the fact the fact dave would have been down with that it's hilarious i mean it's not over yet i mean it's it's it's still there it's yeah you know what who said who knows i may need three nuts myself all right um we're gonna do this we gotta ask section jackass is officially 25 years old what advice do you have for parents who might have been taking their kids to see this for the first time um well i guess they'll be uh 18 17 i well you know what i guess i hope i hope they like butthole because there's a lot of butthole in this movie in the last movie it was all about penis this one's more butthole so just have a good conversation with your kids that it's okay we just be accepting of the human body all shapes and sizes who cares what's almost as iconic as like your intro and the sound is just the warning page did you have to like have a legal team do this or was this kind of just like yeah the warning sign has to be there so i'll just go ahead and mock this thing up myself yeah the the network did say we got to do something because we were you know really kind of going for it and so so yeah but yeah it's become such a part of the show and i think it's become a part of a lot of other shows too and um today or tomorrow i'm taking a crack i'm like i you know we do the jackass comes out in different countries i'm gonna try to do the warning in different languages and just my dumb hillbilly ass trying to do the uh warning in french is you know you know how good that accent's gonna be yeah yeah i'm notorious for failing french man that language is rough yeah how many how many pairs of testicles has jackass ruined oh my god uh testicles marriages we've we've ruined about everything will you ever not laugh at someone getting hit in the nuts i it's reflexive you have no control i have no control over it or something someone falling down you know i just like if they're close to me i'll laugh and then help them up it's just i can't help it it's the best i mean do you guys can you guys handle it if can you guys not laugh if someone gets hit if your friend gets hit in the nuts we we went up so i'll give you this johnny i climb mount kilimanjaro and we're coming down the mountain and my one buddy bo allen is just sitting in the rocks like pouting his sherpa has left him and he's just like really it's taking its toll the altitude at this point i'm laughing my ass off at that i get to the bottom of the hill bo finally gets to the bottom of this like part of the mountain and he proceeds to vomit everywhere and i proceed to laugh uncontrollably at my friend vomiting and somebody else looks at me this is when i knew i was an asshole somebody looks at me like he could be like he could be really messed up and i'm like yeah oh i didn't even think about that i just was like i thought this was hilarious you're right let me help him up yeah no it is reflexive for sure yeah yeah i mean you can't you what happened between bo and his sherpa why did it end so badly he just sat down and the sherpa kept telling him like hey come on let's go like he's like basically like why are you taking so long you need to get your fat ass down this mountain and bo's just sitting in the rocks pouting like a i mean it's a 300 pound nose guard who's just sitting in the rocks like a toddler bo is being the drama queen yes essentially is what happened yeah yep yep so yeah no that is i think you're right i think it's completely hilarious anytime somebody gets it in the balls. You spawned an entire generation of just men ball-tapping each other. Like, that was just the thing to do. We would just be running out to practice, going for a high five, and when the guy put his hand up, you'd slap him on the balls, and that was just the thing to do. Yeah, you go high, do the high-low. It's just – well, I was programmed to do that by my father, and I had older sisters who were 8 and 10 years older. So from the age of 3 and 4, I was programmed to just nail people in the nuts. I was like their little robot. So it's their fault. Do you have a welcome to Hollywood moment? Welcome to Hollywood moment. Well, I remember auditioning for this thing when I got to Hollywood for – I was like 20. And after the audition, you know, they give you feedback, and the casting director's like, you ever think about going into construction? And I was like, oh, shit. That's not what you want to hear. And then – so about six months later, I'm looking for a job, and I do, in fact, apply for a construction job and got denied. No! Because I had no experience. No! So I'm like, now what am I going to do? I can't act. I can't do construction. Holy cow, that's great. Welcome to Hollywood, baby. That's right. Welcome to Hollywood. It's hard to make it. You've got to find your niche. You've got to find it. All right. Well, with this last film coming out, have you thought and reflected at all on, you know, what jackass has meant culturally and, like, how things have shifted since – I mean, you guys have been doing it for 25 years. How much has changed – like, how much has changed over those 25 years? The internet, social media, like, all these things. And I don't know. It just feels like that was kind of a launching off moment where a lot of things shifted. People started recording themselves more. Things started going on the internet. Yeah. I – honestly, I don't – like, I appreciate, obviously, for a man with my limited education, how this has all worked out. But as far as what – and that it means something to people means the world to me. But what it means culturally, I don't spend a lot of time on that because I have no control over that, you know? It's kind of – it's out there. So I can only focus on what I do. I'm glad that it means so much, but I can't spend too much time thinking about the other part of it. Makes complete sense to me. Makes complete sense. Makes something really fun with a bunch of buddies, do it for 25 years. Other people like it, and that's enough. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, you get paid, and that's good. Of course. Of course. You make a good, honest, hard-working living. There you go. Better than construction? Yeah. Well, I'm unqualified, so I can't answer. It's so good. You would never – you'd be hard-pressed to meet a man who's less mechanically inclined than I am. Well, Jackass has meant so much to not only our childhood and our, like, group – friend group growing up, man. We can't fucking thank you enough for the memories, all the fucking countless laughs that are still fucking going on today as I watch this new movie, Best and Last. Jackass, Best and Last, ladies and gentlemen, in theaters June 2nd. June 26th. You're not going to want to miss this one. Johnny Knoxville, man. Thank you so much for coming on the show, dog. Thank you, fellas. I really appreciate it. Johnny, you're the man, brother. Thank you. All righty. Thank you to Johnny Knoxville. Dude, what a fucking legend. What an absolute legend. It's just so fucking cool we get to actually have conversations and ask him about the beginning of it and how it all came about and where it's at now, and I bet you it just keeps going. I mean, I understand that it might be the last one that Johnny does and it might, like, change the name or whatever, but they got some new faces and some people that could really carry the torch, man. Yeah, I'm sure they do. I do think that Johnny is a unique figure. It's too good. It's too good. Yeah, but I think Johnny's a unique figure. Like, where do you find a guy that – I hear you. I mean, he was just born to do this. Yeah, you're right. Right from the opening scene of the movie when he shoots himself in the fucking chest with a loaded gun. I mean, he's a maniac, but he's, like, lovable and, like, gregarious. Just the best. You can tell, like, everybody has brought so much to that universe and that world, but, you know, Knoxville is just such a freaking unique figure that really kept that thing together for so long. Hell yeah, he is. Shout out to these guys and shout out to Johnny for perhaps their last jackass, the best of the best. And last, make sure you check that out. Once again, that conversation was brought to you by Mentos Gum. All right, that wraps up another episode of New Heights. Thank you to Zach and Julie Ertz and Johnny Knoxville. All right, man. Make sure you check out Julie's new pod with Kalea Watt, Style of Play, wherever you get your podcasts, and go see Jackass, Best and Last, in theaters June 26th. I promise you, you won't be disappointed. Once again, New Heights, a wonder show brought to you by Enterprise. Nothing parties like a rental. All right, man. Follow the show. And on social media, at New Heights Show with 1S for fun clips throughout the week. And thanks to this New Heights production team for being so amazing. But more so, thank you, 92%ers, for tuning in every single week. Wow, you really shot the moon on that shirt today, Jason. Jesus Christ, I knew it. What? I've given you a compliment. Jeez Louise. God damn it. This guy's so insecure about his shirt. You look great, Jason. The seasons are changing. The seasons are getting brighter. The whorehouse called. They want their drapes back, Jason. Just kidding.