Julian Confronts the Jared Kushner Allegations...

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It involved the payment of $20 million in fees to Mr. Epstein. And it appeared to be struggling. It was structured, at least in part, to avoid taxes. He would pay $10 million to Epstein's primary company, Southern Trust. There it is. But the other $10 million would be in the form of a donation to one of Epstein's charitable organizations, Gratitude America, which until then did not have any funds. Gratitude America soon began dispensing the money in ways that could burnish Epstein's reputation or strengthen his ties to figures in academia and other fields, because he was so grateful. There were benefits for Mr. Black, too. Mr. Epstein's accountant, Richard Kahn, more on him in a minute, noted in an email, to one of Mr. Black's advisers, that a goal of the arrangement was to maximize deductions. Mr. Black would be able to write off the $10 million and potentially lower his tax bill. And so they were just doing this back and forth, they didn't want to get audited. I mean, there's all up in here. This article even goes into cocaine rumors, which Leon Black, to be clear, vehemently denies. He says he hasn't used drugs at the time that he said it, in like 2017 or whatever. He hadn't used drugs in 40 years and it was a ridiculous accusation because, of course, he would never do that. But there were also emails that showed direct proof that there was a yoga instructor, who was also Eastern European, do we have it right there? "Hi, Deborah's yoga instructor, Lucienne, can come over to Jeffrey today, 5:15 to 6:15. Leon said he," I guess it was supposed to be she, that's a typo, "is sensational. Does he want her?" And that was sent on July 23rd, 2020. And at the time, Epstein said, "Thanks, but it won't work today." Which means, yeah, it did happen eventually and yes, this is another woman that apparently Leon Black, at the very least, was going to be paying off because he had an affair with her. I mean, he said she was sensational. Yeah. Might have been a little pun right there. It's a little more than just like the yoga with the clothes on, right? Yeah. 100K. 100K is interesting. Is that what it ended up being? Yeah. Yeah. So, she and Mr. Black had been in a sexual relationship and since at least 2009, hundreds of thousands of dollars had flowed to her from Mr. Black's bank account. But in 2017, the setup changed. Now, Mr. Epstein would wire the money, in this case, $100,000. Now, the guy that we mentioned who's at the middle of some of this is the long forgotten, hopefully not for long, accountant, Richard Kahn. So Richard Kahn. Do I have it under? Yeah, right here. Yes, I do. It's actually under the Lennick thing. Let's pause this for a second. If you guys are familiar with my buddy, Tommy G, who makes great content on YouTube, he's been on my podcast four times now, and the thing about Tommy is he's got that all shucks Milwaukee thing going on to kind of put you at ease, but he's always cooking and he's always a step ahead on stories. He's always working tirelessly to track things down. One of the things I have noticed over the years is that when I talk with Tommy and I ask him what stories he's working on, because he's always working on at least five stories at a time in the worst case scenario, usually as much as 15 stories at a time, though, whenever I ask him what he's working on, I find afterwards that I really want to key in on whatever the first thing he said was. And I'm like, okay, I'm going to do that, because it'll almost always be something that I'm not thinking about at that time, or the general public maybe isn't thinking about much, and he'll do it, and then suddenly, biggest story ever. As an example, he came here in June, and the first thing he was talking about on that podcast of stories he was working on was this documentary that had not been released that he had filmed on Flock, and he put it out, and then that became the fucking story everywhere, and people started tracking what these guys had been doing, and most importantly also what a bunch of other companies who were hiding beneath that wing could be doing afterwards, which is exactly what should not get lost in this story, because Flock is just one of many, many companies, including Axon and places that have dark money behind them for sure. He was the first guy to have Captain Tzariak, which was like a fun, funny story from the Black Hebrew Israelites on a documentary, and got him in here like a month after that came out, and then so he did that. I did my podcast with Captain T, which I put out I think January 2025, and then he started going everywhere, and that became like a big thing, and to this day, he goes on fucking every platform. But the other day, I'm on our boy Zach Faust's live stream. It was me, Zach, and Tommy talking, and Zach starts asking Tommy what stories he's working on. This is like, I don't know, five days ago, six days ago, something like that, and Tommy goes, "Wow. I'm investigating this thing that's going on with Epstein's lawyer and accountant." That seems to be going really under the radar, and of course, like we've covered it in here, so I'm like, "Oh, yeah, and Dyke and Kahn." Yeah, no, it's very, very, very interesting story right there. Obviously, their client bases, particularly Richard Kahn, the accountant's client bases that he released to Congress in his testimony back in May has gone very under the radar. I'm like, "I'm glad you're doing that." And then what do you know, Joey Deef? Two days later, we get this. New Mexico State Attorney General Raul Torres announces charges against Jeffrey Epstein's attorney and accountant. If anyone is entitled to a recovery of Jeffrey Epstein's estate, it's the survivors. Let's roll this for a minute. In February of this year, I made a public announcement that the New Mexico Department of Justice was reopening its criminal investigation into the criminal conduct that occurred by Jeffrey Epstein and his associates at Zorro Ranch. That's right. That's right. In February of this year, I made a public announcement that the New Mexico Department of Justice is reopening its criminal investigation into the criminal conduct that occurred by Jeffrey Epstein and his associates at Zorro Ranch. So I made a public announcement that the New Mexico Department of Justice is reopening its criminal investigation into the criminal conduct that occurred by Jeffrey Epstein and his associates at Zorro Ranch. not only for the prosecutors who work in this office, but for people who have been specifically engaged in, uh, crimes, um, involving, um, children, um, sexual assault victims, sexual assault survivors, and a recognition that all too often we fail to deliver, um, truth and accountability. For sure. Okay. Let's pause it right there. So he goes on, he goes on to talk about the fact that why he's going after these two guys in particularly, because obviously they were involved in the trail of money and in the trail of the covering up some some of the legal stuff behind it because they so closely advised jeffrey epstein up until his death quite literally so good on him to do that let's see if that goes anywhere but kind of interesting once again tommy g is like a little bit over the target on something ahead of time i haven't talked to him since that live stream but i saw this two days ago i'm like god damn it he did it again so always pay attention like tommy g like that boy's on it before we get to kushner we do have to say happy trails joey deef let's hit it to your favorite italian who's that paolo zampoli this went under the radar paolo zampoli who held a special envoy to the whatever the fuck of whatever the fuck basically a prestige worldwide if you know you know type position in the white house that did at least allow him to get photo ops next to JD Vance to go talk with Iran about ending the war and shit like that. Paolo Zampolli, the Italian immigrant ex-modeling executive who was very good friends with Jeffrey Epstein, so much so that they tried to buy a modeling agency together in the early 2000s. Paolo Zampolli is out. So Paolo Zampolli has been dismissed from his position at the State According to a U.S. official, Paolo was notified today that his status as an envoy has been terminated and he is no longer a government employee, the official said. Zampolli is a longtime friend of President Trump and first introduced him to Melania. That is what has been reported. We've talked about that length in the past based on my conversations offline with Amanda Ungaro, who is the mother of Paolo Zampolli's child and was his partner for years and years. Go back to that tweet real quick. I just want to finish the end of that. Sorry. So the end of the tweet says, his longtime friend and President Trump first introduced him to Melania. The firing comes on the heels of Politico's report about his months-long feud with Deputy Secretary of State Landau. Okay, now you have the report up there, Dave. So there's a nasty email fight. This is what Politico put out that then Paolo was shown the door the next day. Nasty email fight between two top Trump appointees spills into the open. Look at Paolo. Look at that mean mugger. All right, so two top appointees of President Trump, including the Deputy Secretary of State, have been embroiled in a months-long fight that includes accusations of leaks to the media and bizarre threats of defamation all over emails that at times included more than a dozen administration officials. The conflict centers on Paolo Zampolli, a personal friend of Trump's and a special envoy to the State Department and Deputy Secretary of State, Christopher Landau. According to messages obtained by Politico, the email stretch over almost a year. This was some real old world shit, bro. Some old world shit right here. They stretch over a year and show Zampolli and Landau disagreeing over chains of command as Landau admonishes Zampolli to stick to his remit on cultural issues but not devolve into bitter arguments and unproven allegations. The messages stand out not just for the personal vitriol but because upward of 16 administration officials were included at times on the email chain. Oh, they won a block party on this. That's so good, dude. Administration officials were included at times on the email chain with the dispute at least once spilling over into communications with a top foreign official opening a window into the delicate State Department back-channeling to allies about apparent violations of diplomatic protocol. I love it here. Wow. I love it. We're awesome. You just have some ambassador for the Philippines looking at his Gmail and he's like, oh, no, that's. It's like, what are we doing here? Oh, my God. But, you know, it couldn't happen to a better guy. Paolo seems like a real. Winner. Real winner. Trustworthy. Yeah. Honorable. Decent, upstanding businessman, individual, right? Brings honor to us Italian-Americans. It brings total honor to all Italian-Americans, especially the ones who found their way over here after living there as kids, like Paolo, you know? American dream. American dream, the whole bit, and definitely never engaged in. any impropriety whatsoever, right? No. He's a Catholic. Yeah, he's a Catholic. He's a man of God. Yeah, come on. He's a man of God. You ain't doing nothing with that kind of guilt, I'll tell you firsthand. You're doing nothing with it. But I have not called Amanda about this. I kind of want to. You should, dude. Give her a ring. I think. Amanda listens to the show, so maybe she's hearing this. Give me a shout. But I feel like she's taking a little victory lap right now. Totally. Right? I feel like she's taking a little victory lap right now. And I think that's well-deserved. I don't like to get involved in interrelationship issues, but when the interrelationship issue involves like an Epstein buddy who had his wife arrested by. ex-partner of 20 years, a mother of his kid arrested by ICE and then later deported as a result, as an end result, because she was inconveniencing him. Yeah, you know, I feel like that's a little karma right there. Yeah. You know what, though, Joey? Maybe he can go back to be the ambassador of the oceanic whatever the fuck for the nation of Dominica, which I know he's very passionate about and is certainly a real citizen of and goes to often and cares every bit about all the people that live there in a country that you and I had never heard of until we heard about that role, right? Yeah, I would. It's crazy because I would think people like this, like, for him, why don't you just go back to Italy and ride off into the sunset? I know. Like, what are you. Like, you've stolen and made all this money and done all. Like, go back to. Go to Positano. Yeah. Find yourself a fucking, you know, 30-year-old beautiful Italian broad. You know? Settle down. Get a little villa on the cliff. Getting fucking house help there probably costs nothing compared to what you're paying in Grand Mercy Park. Right. And, hey, go out in the sunset. Do your lucky Luciano. You got away with it. Congrats. Yeah. Like, you got away with it. Go enjoy yourself, like, enough. I'm not condoning what you did. Excuse me, Joey D. We got to be legally fair here. What you allegedly did. Yes, allegedly. I'm not condoning it. I don't like it. In fact, you can get the fuck out of my country. But, like, you know, let bygones be bygones. If you're history, I'll move on. How about that? Yeah, because 12 months over an email. I mean, it's like. Like, it really is Veep in real life. It is. We are living in Veep. A 12-month-long email feud that had a foreign leader on the chain. Like, it's just. Yeah, that. It doesn't get better. The four-day wonder. What the fuck was her name? The blonde lady? She just got cooked. Oh, oh. Zachariah? Yes, yes. I was saying Zachariah last week. Shows you how short her reign was. Didn't even have time to learn her name. She did good. She did good. You know what's funny? As you said that, I googled the four-day wonder and it brought up a fad diet. So, I have it on the Google Doc, right there. You see that screenshot? Yeah, let me find this. From the mooch. So, apparently, Anthony Scaramucci, who was always measured as, like, how long would a press secretary last? How many Scaramucci's? Because he only lasted 10 days in Trump's first term before he was fired. So, he was tweeting, like, three days into her reign, she will make it. And there's a community note on there. This is on. Oh, yeah, yeah. You got it right there. So, if you scroll down to the community note, it just says, she did not make it. But there was also. The first article right there, just while we're on this, quick side swipe here, Joey Deef. Caroline Leavitt, the previous press secretary, responded to this. And I just want to read between the lines here. It sounds like there was some. A little bit catfighting behind the scenes because listen to this quote, Joey Deef. She goes down and she says, we wish Katie the best. The job, obviously, was not for her, but we wish her. Here it is, Joey Deef. We wish her and her family well. I love it. She hit her with the, obviously, this wasn't for her. And that's okay. And the we wish her well. Yep. And her family. Yeah. Now, the good news for Katie is that because she's not in the spotlight anymore and she's moved back out to LA, she is able to go back to normal life and with the right sunglasses and coverings, not, you know, not draw any attention to herself. So she went incognito to get a coffee this week. Let's get a good look at that, Joey Deef. This is Katie Zachariah getting a coffee. She was so close. She was so close. And then the hat. Kind of a dead giveaway. You got a 45-47 with a big gold Make America Great Again on the front. That kind of takes away the hoodie, the sunglasses, the hair down, the hat brim low, and the yoga pants to kind of say, hey, maybe, maybe this is the lady who just got fired, right? Yeah, I mean, listen, I got to give it to these people. They're, they got confidence, man. I mean, you just got axed. You didn't even make it a full business week. You're right. Four days. You got axed. She's in LA, too. And then you're just popping out in LA. In LA. Looking like that. Like, she's, she's, obviously she's feeling good. She's doing the lariat. She is. Yeah, yeah, she is. She really is. She's doing the wear the hat in LA so people don't Yeah, because she wants the coffee shop to herself. She's got to do job interviews. Oh, my God. Oh, that's so good. That's good stuff. Well, we, we do wish her all the best. We wish her well. Oh, her, her hot beverage was from Arrowhorn. Oh, it was from Arrowhorn? Come on. Good for her. That's 30 bucks. Wow. They're paying press secretaries pretty good in four days. Although, I don't, her husband's like a business guy, right? Yeah, and she got a little, she's also a Chinese lawyer. He is a Chinese lawyer. You can't forget that. Remember? She is a Chinese lawyer. She passed it in, in China. For sure. So, going back to what I have. We're going to go through Kushner right before that. Joey Deef, we did promise this. So, let's, let's do it and get people to download. Joey Deef and I did go see Primetime. The movie based on Chris Hansen. Yes. With Robert Pattinson directed by Lance Oppenheim. We saw that, what, a couple weeks ago now? Yeah, two or three weeks ago. I'd say. So, I'm going to let Deef give his thoughts and unabated in a sec to start off with what my takeaways were. First of all, I'm a big Robert Pattinson fan. He should probably get some sort of award for it. The impersonation was unbelievable. Crushed it. He crushed it. Like, it was very entertaining and he was, he played an exaggerated version as well of Chris Hansen. So, it was like, some of it was hilarious and like the things he would say and the acts he would do and stuff like that. So, like, on that one hand, it was, that was really impressive and the movie itself was entertaining. Was it the most entertaining movie I've ever seen? No. Do I think the new, like, filmmaking style where everyone's trying to do like the Safdie Brothers Uncut Gems or Marty Supreme is like the best trend? No. You know, where they got the constant, you know, schizo music in the background and moving shots all the time and they make everything just giant anxiety ridden. It worked for those two movies that the Safdie brothers Brothers made because they're literal, by the way, Uncut Gems, which I really like, and, and Mars Supreme, great movies, like both of them. They're the same movie. They're two completely out of their mind, anxiety ridden guys going through something crazy in their life. One is just driven by addiction and the other is driven by ambition. And so with Chris Hansen, they decided to film this movie in a way where it's a very similar style. And like, if, if every movie starts getting made that way, I'm going to get a little annoyed. Nonetheless, it was entertaining. That said, one of the things I said to Deef when we walked out of theater is I do think it's the wrong movie for the wrong time. They did start producing this in 2024. And a Pikachu illustrator card worth $2.8 million in packs as low as just $1. Download prize picks and use code Spotify to get $25 instantly in bonus packs. When you buy your first $5 pack prize picks run your game. 18 plus eligible areas terms apply, collect responsibly. The real cost of a break-in isn't your valuables. It's the feeling that your home stopped being safe. 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He is definitely funny, all these things, but like kind of taking him down in a way when he's been a guy who for over two decades has been a pedo hunter, not the best messaging. But what I was saying to D when we walked out of the movie was my first thought is I said, I do wonder whether I would have agreed with the interpretation of Chris Hansen or not. I do wonder if this movie came out in 2017 instead of in 2026, if I would be saying that same thing as strongly versus instead just saying, well, they were just making a parody of Chris Hansen. I don't know what was odd and little spoiler alert here. So skip the next 30 seconds if you don't want to know this, but the ending of the movie, Chris Hansen, was stupid and maybe inadvertently, I hope inadvertently sent the wrong message because it involved a sting with a pedo who then unalived himself. And the guy was a stone cold pedo and a powerful guy. He was a DA in, in Texas. And so I'm sitting there wondering like, am I supposed to feel bad that the guy unalived himself after trying to, do unspeakable things to a 13 year old boy? Cause I certainly don't feel bad. I look, I don't want, I'd like the guy to see justice. I don't ever, I don't ever necessarily root for someone to do that kind of thing, but like, what, what are they trying to make me feel there? I thought that was odd. I also do believe like everyone was saying, and we've talked about it before, but that NDA, the Chris Hansen refused to sign with a 24 when he went to go see the film early at their, at their location in New York, you know, and they were trying to say, well, it's a standard NDA. Everyone signs. There were things in there that even if it is a standard NDA for anyone who's just going to see the fucking film early would sign. There were things in there that if you're Chris Hansen, who the movie is fucking based on, they use his name. They use his show. They use the real people with real names from his show who were making it. And they did all of it without consulting him or showing them. I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, you might want to reserve the right depending on the outcome to be able to sue or to be able to say, Hey, like, I'm not okay with certain things. I think I agree with Chris on that. So that was the wrong way for them to go about it. But do you know, there's been this argument online where people are like, Oh, this movie was like defending pedos. Yeah. I didn't get that. I did not get stupid. The ending was very stupid, but I didn't throughout, like, I wasn't feeling like they were trying to make pedos look like, I don't know. They, I don't think they were trying to like, like humanize it. Like, well, yeah, you know, I, I know what you mean. Right. So, you know, like if anything, it actually, even with the very first scene, it made them look hilariously pathetic in most of the ways. Most of the scenes. So I, I didn't really get that. I kind of landed in the middle on some of this, but I do think it's just probably the wrong movie for the wrong time. Nonetheless, if you guys go see it, judge for yourself, that's kind of where I was at. So Joey D if you take it away with where you're at. Yeah. I liked, I liked it. I, I enjoyed it. Um, I'm excited to see his other movie cause he's got two movies out now, Oppenheim, but yeah, I liked it a lot. The ending was, yeah, pretty ass, but like you, I don't think it was supposed to be like, like defending pedos or anything like that. I think if anything, the ending was like this culmination of like what he's doing has real world effects and like it's real people involved and it goes beyond like just their TV show. Like it's going to have like real repercussions and stuff. That's kind of like how I've taken it. The more I've sat with it, but, um, yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't think all the online, I think is just that it's kind of bullshit. Yeah. And people want, it's like everything else in our society. People automatically want to get totally zero or a hundred on everything. And once in a while you'll run into some, like you read Epstein emails. Yeah. It's kind of zero or a hundred, right? Like in this case it's a hundred, but I, I think with this, there was, there was a little more nuance that said, I wouldn't have made the movie. I would, I wouldn't have made it today. Like in, in this environment, I would have had it. I would have had it. I would have had it. I would have had a serious thought about that because I've said this many times before, but it is a reality. I don't like it, but this is the reality of the world. We live in a world where before you get to how things actually are, you better have how things look figured out first. It sucks, but how things look at the surface level matters more than how it actually is. If you write the greatest book ever, or you make the greatest YouTube video ever, and you have either no cover or no thumbnail on it, no one's going to see it, right? Like that's, I don't like that. I mean, shit, if it were up to me, my thumbnails would be a picture of the guest, the name of the podcast, and the number of the episode. That's what my, that's what every one of my thumbnails would be, but you'd never fucking hear me if they were. So you have to have that part buttoned up and it sucks because then if you go to do something creatively, you have to think about how people are going to interpret that sometimes. Like in this case with making a, a movie where you're going to be taking artistic limitations. I do think another mistake they made is that they put at the end, in the end credits very quickly that this was, you know, there were certain, I forget what it said, but certain things fictionalized based on this, you know, for entertainment purposes. Like what they put at the beginning of South Park, essentially. Yes. Put that at the beginning. Yeah. You put, especially for one like this, that's an easy unforced error. Don't do what 50 Cent did to Diddy, which I thought was cool and hilarious, by the way. Because Diddy is objectively an awful guy, but 50 Cent did that to Diddy in his documentary at the end where he would just like very quickly flash on the screen. I think I talked about that last week, but you know, like, by the way, you know, he was only found guilty of these two things, but he's definitely a bad guy, you know? So I don't know. That's, that's kind of what I took right there. You heard what Joey Deve had to say. Yeah. I'd go see the movie. It's a fun time. Go see the movie. Pat and some crush. I do want to see the other movie they made though on Elizabeth Holmes, like you said. Yeah. It's, it's doing gangbusters. I've, I've heard, I've heard it's unbelievable what they were able to get. And the fact that Nate Fielder and Lance were able to go like, and do that with her all the way up to it, to the point that they were even filming themselves right outside the prison when she was walking in and no one picked up on this. Fucking insane. I mean, I didn't even know the movie's runtime is three hours. It's a three hour doc. I didn't. And I'm almost shocked that they could distill it down to three hours spending that much time with that fucking psycho lady. You know what I mean? I don't know how she's tweeting. She tweets back at us. She tweet back at us a couple of times. She's tweeting. I think it's the, I think the boyfriend now is the boyfriend doing it. Yeah. Okay. 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Some people have this Matthew Cole book, Jared Kushner. It'll come right up. Princes and Thieves. What's it called, Dave? Princes and Thieves. So, Jared Kushner and Mohammed bin Zayed's secret plot to remake the Middle East. Remake the Middle East. Now, I've said this before with books I read, but I love nonfiction books. Before I even opened the page, skipping back to the bibliography, even without looking at the details first, just seeing how thick it is, and then looking at the details too, which is obviously very, very critical, just to kind of see where some sourcing is. And then, you know, you got to read the book and see where it correlates and all that to see how it actually stands up. But that is what I'm going to be doing with this book right here, because as of the time of this recording on Friday evening, October 23rd, Matthew, the author, has not responded to some of the pushback on the claims that were made. We're going to go through this very viral Vanity Fair article that lays out allegedly what Jared Kushner was involved with. But here's why this is really important to say. I started to talk about this at the outset, but I want to reiterate this again. I believe Jared Kushner is a very bad guy. I believe he has no talent. I believe he's a nepo baby. I believe that he has very bad intentions and is a horrific example of the worst thing that exists among, you know, people that think they're way better than you and I. We have discussed many investigations into financial transactions, particularly since he, quote unquote, was going to leave political life after Trump term one, that he and his wife, as a result, Ivanka Trump, the president's daughter, involved him. We have covered that and we'll continue to cover that. And it's to the tune of up to six billion dollars, by the way. It involves multiple countries, including some of the countries that are mentioned in this very article right here. We have seen this guy be one of the worst negotiators in the history of fucking mankind as an unelected official on behalf of this administration involving a war that, you know, should have never fucking happened, that they promised against and that has made a mess of the world. We have watched this guy be in all these places that we don't want him to be. And I would love nothing more than to never have to say the name Jared Kushner again and get him to fuck out of private life and to abide by the same laws that you and I have to abide by. So journalistically speaking, and stay with me here, when I go to do that, that means that I have to think about what are all the ways that my goal could go wrong. And one of the key ways it could go wrong is if I run to every single allegation, take it, no matter what it is, at face value without reviewing the underlying evidence that can support it and say this is 100 percent true, only to be proven wrong later. OK, so I'm going to start this because I'm not saying that what's in this article hasn't happened. I'm saying I'm going to need to see some receipts on this and you will understand why when I go through it. I'm going to start with. Jared Kushner's response to this. Now, Jared Kushner has responded to other things over the past few months that are laughable, where, you know, he just does the regular denial. This is ridiculous. It should be taken down. And it's like objectively something that is like, well, no, Jared, you are an asshole. You did this wrong. But on this one, he took a similar approach. So hopefully, you know, if the report is correct, and by the way, I hope the report's not correct because it's bad. Right. But if the report is correct and this is actually, good journalism, which would be bad for all of us in the sense that these things would have happened and we wish they didn't happen. But if that is the case. Hopefully, then this is a total lie that Jared Kushner's caught in and he digs his hole deeper and he's one step closer to never being fucking heard from again. Anyway, he says at Vanity Fair posted an excerpt from a book containing outrageous and categorically false allegations. By the way, Joe, do you ever notice people like this in these positions never do this? Yeah, I never turned that even did he tried that he crashed out by now he can't do but like, they never turn the phone around and just talk to it in one take. And like at least try to show you their tone, their face, their fucking feel. But people like this probably don't even have feelings. No, he says the excerpt from the book containing outrageous and categorically false allegations came from Vanity Fair. The allegations made by this author are completely insane and never happened. We denied every one of these claims on the record. Yet the author failed to provide a single shred of evidence to them. No bank statements, wire transfer records, account numbers, transaction dates or other verifiable details were provided to support these extraordinary accusations. During the period in question, because this story took place in 2017 2018. And there, I was one of the most scrutinized people in the world subjected to intense media coverage that that is true. Multiple congressional investigations that is also true. And a special counsel investigation I voluntarily cooperated with these investigations provided over 30 hours of testimony. I believe that is true as well. None of these allegations ever surfaced because none of these events ever happened. Or you know, it's above their pay grade to ask. We've seen that in other stories too. These are outrageous fabrications being presented as investigative journalism. This is not journalism is a mixture of fantasy fiction and advocacy written by someone who is either deeply disturbed or acting with sinister intent. So before I go to read the article right now, one thing I do want to say is that the time period in question because this article is going to involve Saudi Arabia and MBS, and BZ as well with the UAE and then other transit countries where they're doing weird financial transactions very similar to the whole dark art dealing black pit like it's very, very similar. And then also Israel as well, which we know Jared Kushner can't get enough of his really fucking loves the place. Benjamin Netanyahu who slept in his childhood bed when he would stay here in America, you know, so it involves all these different places. And the reason I want to say it out front is because if you remember, and I've referenced this many times over the years, in what was it 2018 Jamal Khashoggi, the journalist who at the time was associated with the Washington Post, who was had been a high ranking social society person in Saudi Arabia, right? Yeah, 2018. Who also, I believe was related to Adnan Khashoggi, which, you know, kind of interesting, but Jamal Khashoggi was murdered in the Saudi consulate in Turkey. And, you know, there was video footage of a bunch of dudes in suits who had arrived on some private jet going into the consulate after video showed Jamal Khashoggi going into the consulate and then video showed Jamal Khashoggi never coming out, the suited men coming out with bags, presumably carrying pieces of his hacked up body. And it was so dark that there is even strong evidence to support the idea that perhaps Mohammed bin Salman, the crown prince of Saudi Arabia was on the video monitor in the conference room in the consulate as Jamal Khashoggi was being executed in this case. But this was an international big deal. You have a leader of a major nation allegedly ordering the murder of a dissident journalist, who was operating out of America at the time, as far as like his journalism goes, working for the Washington Post, which was also owned by Jeff Bezos, which added just a little extra cherry on top layer to it, where he was also ordering said murder on a diplomatically protected piece of land inside of a foreign nation that is diplomatically protected under the idea that there is a trust that illegal activities are not going to happen in this place, particularly murder. Obviously, you and I both know illegal activities happen in all these fucking consulates and stuff, but you know what I mean? So it was a big deal. And there were leaked reports in the months and years afterwards about how Trump was bragging to people behind the scenes that he saved MBS's ass. And he came in and had his back and got rid of this ass, and he was like, I'm gonna do this thing. And the intonation was that Trump was very aware that he had actually done this, which I mean, it was very clear that he did this. And so you ask yourself, why did he do that? And then you look at like the Abraham Accords and some of the normalization in the Middle East and things Jared Kushner was involved in, and Jared Kushner developed a very close relationship with MBS. And so you wonder, and this is where it gets to some pure spec, how much a guy like Kushner was involved in that game. And again, this is 2018. So now I want you to turn back the clock for a second and start at 2017, which is where these allegations, and I really have to emphasize that as of right now, I have not seen proof to back this yet. Hopefully we get that on Tuesday when the book comes out. But these allegations start in 2017. So we got it up, Thief? Can people see it? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Thief also has up the – you can go back for one sec. These are like fun facts about Jared Kushner. Benjamin Netanyahu slept in his childhood bed when he was a teenager. He listened to Netanyahu speak. He married Donald Trump's daughter, Ivanka. Before marrying Ivanka, he and his family were substantial Democratic donors. After leaving the White House, he founded Affinity Partners, which took about $2 billion from Saudi Arabia. There it is. Public investment fund and more from Qatar and the UAE. So he took $2 billion three years after maybe helping pure spec MBS out of his little pickle right there. He is the current U.S. special envoy for peace missions. He purchased a controlling stake in the New York Observer, and he transferred ownership in 2017. Invited Jeffrey Epstein to the New York Observer's 25th Anniversary Gala in 2013 because that's what you do. Epstein files suggest that Kushner was the shadow president of the United States in 2016. That seems like a little bit of a bold claim. I don't even know if I've seen something that says that. He's a billionaire through real estate and investment firms. By the way, when they sold their property that they were underwater in in New York on I believe it was Fifth Avenue in 2018, I think they sold it to Vornado in 2018 or 2019. Do you know what? Do you know what? I don't even know what the address on that location was. What? What? It is now 660 Fifth Avenue. At the time, it was 666. Nice. I believe Fifth Avenue. Fifth or Park, one of them. But like, you know, not open in the symbolism department. I might have done that rebranding before I owned it instead of waiting until I sold it and then the next guy being like, yeah, I don't know if I want to own a building called 666. Maybe. 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Actually, you're going to find out that is where you do it. I spend lots of time in Azerbaijan. Well, I'm going to tell you why you should be spending more time there later, because that part's true. But most importantly, Kushner appeared to have transferred significant amounts of money from the Dubai account to other individuals, including a warlord. That's what you do, right? A mercenary and a one-time hitman. Nice. These are very useful people. The story sounded preposterous, I told my source. And yet, six months later, I found myself speaking with someone else about the UAE government and their use of mercenaries in conflicts around the Middle East and Africa when I asked, on a whim, whether they knew anything about Kushner and bank transfers from a UAE account. My acquaintance grew quiet. Then they replied, yes. So I actually, when I read that, and maybe I'm overthinking this, but I was trying to think how I would have asked that if that is, in fact, how directly he asked it. If he went right to him and said, hey, do you know anything about a Kushner account? And the UAE. I would have done it differently. And I'm not exactly sure how, but it probably would have been multiple questions to kind of screen him. Where I would, I definitely would not mention Kushner at first to like fill in a blank and give him an opportunity to try to go with the story, right? And I probably wouldn't have said UAE right away. I probably, and maybe he did, and he's just skipping to the last question he asked. But I probably would have started with something more broad. Like, do you know anything about bank accounts that could involve government officials in powerful countries around the world where they may move slush money from other governments through third-party banks that could then pay them off to curry political favor illegally? Something like that, right? So that the source has to actually figure out how this would happen. That's just me. This is how he chose to do it. So over the next four years, he came to learn, the author came to learn, that sometime in late 2017, the Netherlands Defense Intelligence and Security Service made a startling discovery. A general staff of the armed forces of the Russian Federation GRU operative. So the GRU is where a lot of the Russian dark web hackers are. Obviously, when you're looking at governments with powerful cyber, well-known, very powerful cyber operations, the United States, Russia, actually, North Korea is pretty good. China, Saudi Arabia, Israel. I've heard Britain's pretty fucking good at it, but I don't know as many details on that. So, you know, the GRU would also make sense. So they had made a starting discovery. A general staff of the GRU, a dark web hacker specializing in stolen bank data, was traveling to the UK for an espionage mission. They reached out to the British government for permission to apprehend him. This is the. The Netherlands Defense Intelligence. When he arrived, the British agreed. When the Russian national arrived in England, the Dutch informed him he had two options. He could work for them against the GRU or the British would arrest him. And he said, fuck that. I'm going to work for you. That's obviously me shortening it. So later that year, the Russian operative gave the Dutch spies access to one of the GRU's most sensitive assets. Located in Rostov, Russia, the GRU's hacking and cyber team operated a remote server on which they stored some of their balance. During this search, through these secret files, the Dutch found something astonishing. Screenshots of Jared Kushner's iPhone. Damn. Like actual screenshots. Now, here is another possibility here. This is where my head was thinking based on other stories I've heard over the years. I don't know if this is the case, but sending a high-level GRU operative to, in this case, hostile territory like Britain is risky, obviously. Like, he was there. Allegedly for an espionage mission. That's what they said. You are opening that person up to being arrested and picked up by the British government or, you know, another service like this. So if you wanted to do a little double operation here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Double agent. Right? You'd do that. Yeah. You'd send them in there. You'd be like, oh, fuck. They got me. Yep. Oh, no. But it's your lucky day. I got the resurrection. It's your throw for you. And you plant some information. That's possible. It's very possible because they're talking about screenshots. But it does go deeper on the Dutch government's claims here. So I'm less inclined to believe that that's the case, again, if this story is true. In The Hague, the MIVD hacking team tried to reverse engineer the Russian penetration of Kushner's iPhone. Kushner owned what was then the latest model, the iPhone X, released in November 2017. It featured Face ID, which was. It was at the time state-of-the-art. The Dutch team had been trying to pick the phone's door lock, so to speak, when it occurred to them that the Russians may have found an unlocked window to gain entry instead. Their hypothesis was correct. By early 2018, the MIVD had found a vulnerability in the iPhone that gave them access. Security exploit wasn't perfect, however. Some malware allows a hacker to turn a victim's phone into a microphone and video camera. That's why you see Benjamin Netanyahu, for example, having, you know, camera-covered stuff on his iPhone. I can't see it, but I imagine stuff covered on mics. That's, like, extra special that can also, like, block noise and actual see-through devices, stuff like that. But they allow a hacker to turn a victim's phone into a microphone and video camera, turn the phone on or off, and pull or add files. The Dutch solution did not provide that level of access. Instead, when Kushner used the phone, they could see his screen. Almost as soon as they got inside, the intel service began capturing every image of Kushner's screen as he used it, filing their own cache of surveillance on their internal. computer service. Another question you have to ask here is if they were doing this in 2017, 2018, the world also very hostile. stole the trump administration one obviously he's having a lot of issues with nato back then which he's continued to have the second time around you do have to ask yourself why are we only hearing about this now you know why did this story not come out back then or were you know at least not fucking eight nine years later that's we got a midterm coming up got a midterm coming up october surprise as they monitor kushner's phone they discovered the use to log in they that he used it to log into uae bank account by the time the dutch spies had visibility visibility into the phone the account had received hundreds of millions of dollars from a bank in azerbaijan their initial assessment was that the bank account was affiliated with the government there but they were probably wrong about that the bank account became an intelligence mystery to unravel nearly everything they worked on had a tinge of russian conspiracy a little over a year into trump's first presidency the mivd like fbi agents federal prosecutors in washington working in the robert mueller investigation had only part of the story kushner uae ruler muhammad bin zayed mbz and muhammad bin salman mbs of saudi arabia converged at an auspicious moment mbs wanted to be crown prince this is when he was like locking everyone up in the fucking writs from the royal family and interrogating them and shit mbz wanted to blow up obama's iran nuclear deal and kushner wanted both to help for help him force the palestinians into a deal that israel would accept again why does he give so much a shit about that i'm not saying the middle east you know you wouldn't like to see peace there but like why is that his main objective as an unelected official in the united states white house i don't know despite the perception of his wealth kushner was not entirely financial independent of his parents and the family business kushner companies faced a billion dollar loan coming due on their trophy property the manhattan office building at 666 fifth avenue now known as 660 fifth avenue early in the first trump administration mbz and mbs offered to pay for a slush fund dedicated to helping the new administration with foreign policy goals because that's what you do a little slushy the idea was to help pay for trump's promise wall between mexico and the u.s for example in an effort to secure a second term in the white house the two royals initially discussed with kushner putting more than 10 billy into the effort which is trump change for those guys within months though as mbz and mbs offered to pay for a slush fund dedicated to mbz pushed the trump administration to help back mbs's effort to become his country's crown prince and future king the broadened foreign policy slush fund idea fizzled instead mbz and mbs initially and then mbz alone so mbs moves out of it put at least two billion into at least two bank accounts for kushner it is unclear how the royals organized their two billion in combined payments but they effectively split the cost for the purposes of explanation is best to understand where and how each bank was controlled bank account alpha now follow me here was allegedly held at first abu dhabi bank the largest in the uae so you have a bank account in the uae and it was overseen by mbz's brother tanun bin zayed who served as the bank's chairman keep it all in the family you know beginning in 2017 the saudis and emiratis transferred roughly 750 million into the alpha account so 750 million in the uae alpha would be used as a foreign policy fund this money would be overseen and partially managed by kushner and mbz who in their effort to strike a grand bargain to end the israeli-palestinian conflict which obviously didn't work out too well believed the region's map needed to be redrawn i wonder what that means is that a greater israel reference jared was looking for shortcuts in his diplomacy a source said i'm going to skip some of this because it just mentions how much the money was little to them and a good investment potentially for mbz so the dutch spies who monitored the alpha account noted that all of it was sent by a bank in azerbaijani in american dollars and this is why this is critical to know azerbaijan plays a unique role in money laundering its central bank maintains high levels of u.s dollars in its reserves but does not adhere to the highest standards of bank transparency as a result azerbaijani banks have well-established but unadvertised practices of serving as way stations for large transfers very similar to what i described with art earlier not the same thing but similar as way stations for large transfers and azerbaijani banks have well-established but unadvertised practices of serving as way stations for large transfers in which a foreign currency is exchanged for an equal amount in dollars for a roughly six to seven percent fee that's a big ass fee joey not bad every hundred dollars you're making six or seven bucks just to change it into another currency so nobody knows for a roughly six to seven percent fee on the transaction some azerbaijani banks will accept a transfer from a client who wishes to move saudi rials or emirati clients sends the money to the azerbaijani bank which then uses a different internal bank account to transfer the equivalent u.s dollars to the client's requested destination for auditors this shadow trade can't be discerned it disappears it's like kaiser so very dust it's fairy dust it's going you can't see it and it's in another jurisdiction it's in a sovereign nation that has their own laws like obviously we know the famous like swiss banks and why people hide money there we know about people hide money in cyprus or in the cayman islands and some of these other advantageous places it's because they have the cover of like for lack of a better way of putting it not a perfect way to put it but like their own diplomatic rights if you will a shallow audit as the dutch tried while monitoring kushner's iphone revealed nothing more than what appeared to be an azerbaijani government linked bank account that sent hundreds of millions of dollars to an account in dubai but there was another aspect of the alpha account that the alpha bank account was a signatory for an account managed and owned by an emirati charity when mbz and mbs first began contributing to the alpha account in 2017 the watani al-emirat foundation a uae government-funded charity was run by darar balood al-falasi al-falasi was a technocrat and a member of the federal national council and friends with one of mbz's closest friends and advisors as a result al-falasi and the watani foundation had a second mission the charity was used as a cover to move money in support of the country's secret military and intelligence operations overseas that's what you do with charities you want to make sure you fund more death around the world you know like that's why you set it up it's the only reason it's it's like usa yeah and like the grat what was it the gratitude foundation yeah gratitude america gratitude america come on come college uh career that's don't don't say that people look into that yeah yeah people are nuts maybe maybe they'll find someone it's a joke you're fucking okay psychopaths okay if if if you come up guilty on that i can't help you under the watani cover al-falasi helped facilitate the uae secret weapons purchasing programs one confidential source who had direct knowledge of the charity's proliferation program revealed this source said that the emiratis believe that the program status as a charity made its international transactions less likely to be scrutinized which is what you want and therefore served as a useful cover for funding mbz and his brother's secret wars so they made kushner a signatory on the alpha account with watani a signatory jared had access to it and could in theory make transactions but it technically was not his account one way to view what kushner did was the alpha account is to imagine him as the director of the cia he had been running the government entity that managed and ran secret foreign programs maintain maintaining the account again with presidential approver approval and congressional disclosure kushner's content conduct would have been within his job's responsibilities the problem was he was not director of the cia whose position is approved by the senate and whose ops are overseen and accountable to congress instead kushner was overseen only by his father-in-law who according to four senior trump administration officials two national security advisors a white house chief of staff and a former cia director were unaware of any presidential authorization for kushner to access a foreign government bank account and this is where he does throw in there he didn't throw in enough which maybe is true i don't know that's jared kushner's claim kushner's counsel however said kushner did not make any agreements or arrangements with leaders or officials in foreign countries that were not agreed to by the president of the united states and the best interests of the united states you know if true that's a big if i do have to say it out with this one this is not like you look at the affinity partner stuff and the money flowing in which by the way does track to some of these same that stuff looks clear as day to me you know oh let's start investments in syria make sure you build a trump golf course there though boom money hits obviously that's we're looking at it and it's tracking with this it tracks but i you can't just give me an anonymous source saying we hacked into the fucking guy's iphone you have to show me something there you just journalistically you have to show me something and if true he should fry this is this is a lot of money of things i mean there's a lot of things joey if true this is fucking money laundering this is influence peddling this is being a traitor like it's everything it's a million things because there's a whole nother thing in here i'll get into it for a second just so you guys have it in addition to the alpha bank account mbz put money into at least one other account intended for kushner by the spring of 2018 the crown prince had moved roughly 1 billion dollars to israel via azerbaijan for kushner we were referred to this account as the beta bank account it is unclear how israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu first learned of mbz money for Kushner. But a person briefed on the beta account told me that the prime minister encouraged Kushner to have the money deposited in the Israeli central bank in what would appear to be a government account. It is also unclear how Kushner used the money the UAE deposited into the beta account for him. But according to the person with knowledge of the money, its allocation was allegedly for Kushner's personal benefit. But as with the alpha and some of the allegedly's by the way that I'm adding are my words, not his. So when you've heard allegedly sometime in this article, he didn't necessarily say that. I'm saying that because these are allegations. His allegation was allegedly for Kushner's personal benefit. But as with the alpha account, there were clues in the way the beta account was managed. Now, this also brings in David Friedman, who is the former US ambassador to Israel, who has a cold take every fucking five minutes on everything happening there and certainly seemed to not be serving America in his tenure and in his post tenure of ambassador to Israel. He was allegedly involved in this whole thing. And the reason I don't want to go as deep into the beta account is because this story is brand new. And I'm still trying to do a little more work on how the account would have worked with. What's the wording here? I want to make sure I get this right. So I don't fuck this up with money being deposited into the Israeli central bank because I have seen some arguments made about what types of accounts can be accessed there and who can account who can access those accounts and when and where money can come in and where some of the story might not add up. But I can't say one way or the other yet because I do not know enough. So I don't want to go beyond that. But you can read this article. It's behind a paywall on. On Vanity Fair. But if you archive that, I asked it. So go to the Vanity Fair article. Copy the link, type in archive dot is hit the fucking I'm not a robot. Paste in the link, hit search. It'll load the page and you can see it just like us. That's how we're able to do it with some of these articles on some of these places behind paywalls. But it's very, very interesting allegations. It is coming out right before midterms. I don't know why they would need it to be like everyone sees where the midterms are going. They don't need October surprises. Thank you guys for checking out this clip. If you haven't already subscribed, please subscribe and hit the like button on this video. It is a huge, huge help. And if you'd like to check out this clip's full podcast episode, that link is in the description below or right here. And finally, you can follow me on Instagram and X by using the links in my description below. 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