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This is the love story of real hinge couple, Carty and Rocker. Written and read by me, Nicola Dinan. Listen to the free audio book now. - Welcome back to Whiskey Ginger, a wave series presented by FanDuel. Hey, Whisk-Ginge fans. Bobby Lee and I are gonna be doing the Netflix is a joke festival here May 8th in Los Angeles, California at the YouTube theater down by SoFi Stadium. SoFi Stadium. And then June 28th, I'm doing two shows. June 28th down in Del Mar, North County, San Diego, dude. At The Sound, two shows back to back. Then July, I'm doing the Ameristar Casino in St. Charles, Missouri. Basically St. Louis, come on out. Missouri, come see your boy, St. Charles, Missouri, St. Louis, right there. Go to andrewsantino.com for those tickets. andrewsantino.com. - In here, we pour whiskey, whiskey, whiskey, whiskey, whiskey. - You're that creature in the ginger beard. - Sturdy and ginger. - Like vampires, the ginger gene is a curse. - Gingers are beautiful. - You owe me $5 for the whiskey and $75 for the horse. - Gingers are hell no. - This whiskey is excellent. - Ginger, I like gingers. - Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to Whiskey Ginger. My guest today is one of my favorite people on Earth. I say that for all my guests, but I mean, once again, today, it's the morning with Josh Peck. Good morning. - Good morning. - How does that feel? - Great, I'm so happy to be here. We've orbited each other way too much. - Yeah, we really have. Well, you've been on, you've filled in for me on Bad Friends, right? - Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. - Before I even, well, where was I? Was I sick or something? - I think you were doing Stanicki. - You were doing a movie. - Oh, I was in Australia. - That you beat me out for the part. - Really? - Big time, a lot, you beat me a lot. - I beat you out for Ricky Stanicki? - A lot. - Wow. Well, can I give you the backstory to that? That'll give you some more context. - I love it. - You were never gonna get that part. - That was what I thought. - And here's why. - I knew it. - Here's why. - You're not a good actor. - No, no. I read that original script almost 10 years ago, right? And even back then, I didn't have any weight or pull, and I begged my agents, I said, "Can you please get me one meeting with Pete Farrelly, "somehow, someway?" - Yeah. - And 10 years ago, it was like, no, that's impossible. He doesn't know who you are, no one knows who you are. What are you talking about? I had only done a few things, whatever. Well, then they asked, and Pete was like, "Oh, yeah, I am interested in maybe meeting him." Yeah, well, yeah. So I went in and I basically begged him. I said, "I would do anything to be in this movie." I thought it was the funniest script I'd ever read in my life, I'm not kidding. I was like, "This is perfect." And he was like, "Ah, well, it's a vehicle for Jim Carrey. "Jim was gonna be Ricky Stanicki." And he was like, "But we have these other guys that are "already kind of like. " I think at one point, they had their eyes on Miles Teller. I can't remember. - He beats me a lot, too. - Well, he's a pretty handsome boy, dude. I mean, you're a handsome guy, but he's just got that thing where guys wanna have sex with him, girls wanna have sex with him, invalids wanna be near him. He's a movie star. But anyway, so I did that eight years ago, or whatever it was, almost 10 years ago, and then the script kept getting pushed, and Jim said no, and then it fell apart, and it got rewrote like four or five times, and I just lost track of it. And then I ran into Pete with Larry David at this thing, and he was like, "Hey, we're gonna make that movie." And I was like, "Really?" And he's like, "Yeah, you should try to be in it." And I was like, "Yeah, I mean, I begged for it for a decade." - You're like, "You kind of decide that." - Yeah, I was like, "Isn't that you?" And then he was like, "I think we're gonna, "yeah, I think we'll work that out." So I had planted that seed so long ago that if I didn't get it, I was gonna kill everybody attached to it. - Fair. - So did you, you're alive. - Efron first. - I would've killed him, 100%. I would've killed Zach, and I could take him, dude. We used to wrestle on set, I could take him. - He feels very hearty. He feels-- - He's a big boy. - Yeah. - He's not big. - He's not tall. - Not big, but he's very strong. - Do you feel, I wanna feel his jawbones. - Well, so we kiss before every shot. We would kiss before every take. - Mid-mouth, open mouth. - Closed mouth, 'cause he doesn't, he's a germaphobe. So pre-every take, just a kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss. - Yeah, have a great scene. - And then we would, he wouldn't say anything. It was just kinda customary. - Yeah, in the moment. - And they go, "Zach, he needs a kiss, fly in!" And I'd fly in sometimes in case I wasn't in the scene. - Actor's acting. - Yeah, I don't even know why I told you that stupid story. - I'm glad. - It's a dumb, bad story. - Here's the thing, you're a good actor. - I'm mediocre at best. - So it doesn't really hurt. - And you're a very good actor. - It doesn't hurt. - Thanks, I'm okay. Can I tell you my favorite performance of yours? - Oh yeah, go ahead. - Disaster artist. Let me tell you why. Let me tell you why. - What a fucking asshole. - I got cut out of the entire fucking movie. - Been there. - They left me doing this. - You know why? I appreciate it because you were acting so hard in that movie. - Oh my God, yeah. - And that's what I would've done. - Yeah. - 'Cause I know, I imagine you were like, 'cause this was like, as you were starting, The Ascension, right? - I was getting a little bit of love, yeah. - Yeah, and you're like, fucking Seth Rogen, Franco. - Yeah. - This is like, and you were like, I'm gonna crush this. And I could tell that you were like, I'm gonna do a fucking great job, and you did. - Yeah. - They cut some shit out. - They cut a lot of shit out, dude. They cut so much shit. - I would've been right there with you, Papa. - You wanna know the hardest part that broke my heart about that? They didn't tell, they don't tell you. Of course, for people that don't know at home, they don't tell you that they're gonna cut stuff out. You don't know until you do. And I saw it at the fucking premiere. They didn't tell you before. That's wrong. - So I went to the premiere. It was at Man's Chinese, I think it was. - It's a big one. - Yeah, it was a big one. - Yeah. - And when I walked out, I had such unbearable anxiety. I already don't like crowds, he knows. I don't like, I get really weird about, I don't like it. I'm like, I gotta go, see you later. I hate it. If it's private, I can be with a bunch of people. But if it's just out in the open, and winging about, I get really kinda jittery. And we were walking out, and I was having a literal panic attack as I was walking out. And I couldn't breathe, and I was staring at the floor. And my wife was like, "What's going on?" And I was like, "I think we need to go home." And she was like, "You don't wanna go to this?" It was at the Roosevelt, the party was right across the street. And everyone was just walking across the street. And I said, "Well, here's the good news. "We live in West Hollywood." So we literally just broke right, and just got into the neighborhood, and disappeared into the night. But that fucked me up in the weirdest way. 'Cause I was like, "Well, I don't wanna talk to people "after that, I'm gonna be so uncomfortable." So I didn't tell anybody, I just took off. And then the next day, people were like, "Where were you, man?" I was like, "Dude, I was there." I was there, dude, I was at the bar all night. - Killer time. - I was having the, "You were wasted, dude." I just kinda played it off, like, "Oh, dude, I was there, I must have missed you." - Is your wife consoling you as, once you're getting to the one hour mark, the 90 minute mark, 'cause she thought you were in it. - The hand grab gets tighter. - Yeah. - Oh, wait, okay, bouncing back, real fast. You didn't beat me for something, but you got a thing that I failed miserably. - What? - You did "How I Met Your Father." - Yeah. - I did the original pilot. - Right. - Yeah, the one with Greta Gerwig and me. Greta Gerwig, Anders Holm. Oh, I can't, what's wrong with me? - And what happened with that? - It was fucking unwatchable. - Isn't that amazing? - It was one of the worst things I'd ever done. I was really bad, it was bad. It was just really uncomfortable, because nobody, nothing was right about it. But Greta had only done indie movies. She had never done TV, I don't think, at that time. So she was writing and directing this new concept, but it was still their show. - Yeah. - So it was this weird, it was very weird. - But it was the guys from the original. - Yes, but they were also like, they had just done such a big run that I don't know if this was like, a full-on, it's a lot. - It was weird. I will say, the biggest fuck-up, I've said this before many times on other shows, but everybody was at the craft table, the craft service table, and they were like, "Hey, where are you gonna live in New York?" Because the deal was, we'll shoot the pilot in LA, but those guys had to be back in New York. They wouldn't wanna shoot it in LA. They were like, "When it goes, we'll shoot it in New York." - Yeah. - My agent's like, "Where do you wanna live in New York? "We'll start fishing an apartment," and all this stuff. And I was like, "Are you guys this positive about that?" It's a pilot, you know? - Right. - And they were like, they were dead on, every fucking actor. "Where are you gonna live in New York? "Where do you think you wanna be? "Where does your wife wanna live in New York? "Where does your husband, where do your kid, "where do you think your--" It was that narrative. - I would do that. And I got really weirded out by it. And I had never seen an episode of How I Met Your Mother, ever. So I went home that night. I watched the pilot. And then I went in the bedroom. My wife was in there reading. And she's like, what's up? And I go, this pilot's never going to go. I fucking knew right away. I was like, this is really bad. If that's the show it was, we're fucked. This is bad, dude. And when they killed it, I was like, thank you, Jesus Christ. They buried it from the, and it's on the internet. People have found it, sadly. It's bad. It's unbelievable when every, like, I've been part of those things where every piece of it was perfect. And it couldn't even, it couldn't even get a breath. It couldn't even, there was no pulse to the damn thing. No, just murder it in the backyard. Yeah, they just tried to reverse engineer it. And that, remember Steve Levitan, who's a genius, right after Modern Family did the show with Keegan and Knoxville. And it just, and it went a season. Obama and Bruce Springsteen had a podcast. That's insane. No season two. No season two. Yeah. Obama got busy. God bless him. Yeah, Obama got a little busy. And Bruce is on tour. You know, those guys. Sure. Everyone does have a podcast now. I have a, you have a podcast. I'm going to get on it. I have a pod, please. We're not allowed to not have a podcast now. You have to. It's, I mean, is this the key? I mean, especially for you and Bobby, but it seems like this has been the ultimate fuck you to be able to do whatever you want to do, right? Yeah, I mean, a little bit, but it's also like, it was our answer to, connecting with fans because we were like, I just want to like joke around and fuck around with fans because I, you know, the traditional mediums, it would take so long to like put something out. So you're like, well, we'll just make these things. That's kind of how this was birthed. I mean, credit to the people that did it before us, but you know, it is, it is a, you know, dude, you were a kid actor, you know, you know, and what does that come, what comes along with being a kid actor? Name the top three things. Eating disorder. Eating disorder. Parents stealing your money. Uh, uh, uh, uh, burning out before you can legally drink. Burning out before you can legally drink and you're forgetting a fourth. Uh, being a hundred pounds overweight and having that enshrined forever. No, you already said eating disorder. And my awkward years are in, are in the rewrites. You were abused by adults. You were abused by older people on set. Well, it's not a great, great setup for, for young people. No, it's the weirdest thing in the world. Yeah, it's gross. You had an eating disorder. You were drinking. Yeah. You're sober now. Sober. How many years? Uh, 18. When did you start drinking? Um, I started drinking before it was cool. I, I lost a bunch of weight and I was 17 years old and I didn't realize what food was doing for me. Yeah. And it was giving me this kind of numbing. I didn't eat fruit snacks like my fellows. When I was 10 years old, I would black out in your pantry and I'd be like a gushers all over my face and empty Capri Sun bags. And it was bad. Dunkaroos. Dunkaroos. Slops just falling from your mouth. Yeah, yeah. I'm just like. You were that guy. You would eat an entire, like Oreos, the whole thing was gone. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was me and Sarah Lee. Like, we were just fucking crushing oatmeal pies and watching TGIF and hoping for better days. Wondering where my dad was. Where was he? Good question. That's a very good question. It is dead now. He's dead now? Yeah. Died with a perfect score. Really? Yeah, he's like, I'll never meet you. Fucking yeah. You don't know how he died? He died? Old age. Really? He was an old suitor. He hooked up with my mom at 62. He was 62 when you, wow. Died in his 80s, which is great because at physicals, they're like, you know your father's health history. And I'm like, no, but 80s. 80s is pretty good. If you can make it to 80, you're fine. Take me out. I'm good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, and then your mom was how old when they got? My mom was older too. She was 43 when she had me. So my mom's 82 now, 81. Wow. Yeah. But your old man kicked and you never met the guy? Never met him. And respect. Yeah, good for him. Yeah, good looking out. Look at the opposite though. You're raising three children of your own and you're probably the best dad in the world. I think I'm pretty good. Yeah, no, I think you're really good. I love it. Which one do you love the most? Say it fast, say it fast, say it fast. The oldest. Yeah, of course. Yeah, for sure. The oldest is great. And the youngest is super cute and the middle is just like me. So I like secretly super love him. Because he's a carbon copy of you. A little bit. Is it boy, boy, boy? All boys. All right. So you were a good guy. Musical theater kid fucking had his own little football team dog. Yeah, no, you got your little stage crew. Yeah, I got to like, you know, I didn't learn how to be a man and now I have to teach these little men how to be men. But they'll be very sensitive, caring men. I hope so. They won't be brash, misogynistic dickheads because you're not that guy. Because you learned compassion because you were raised by your mother. Yes, I hope so. I mean, are you past the point now like you're early? Do you talk about your age early? 40s, late 30s? You got a lot of fucking nerve. Yeah, bro. No, I talk about openly. I'm 42. I'll be 43 this year. So you're super successful. Your civilian private life wife is amazing. Are you past that where people go like when you're having a kid? Like, do they just go like, no, who needs it? I tried for a long time, couldn't do it. So it didn't work out. And we went through all those steps. And then I just, we stopped. Well, you know, now we make fun of the idea when people ask about it. Like now we kind of make jokes because we're over it. We used to be kind of annoying. The weirdest thing is when people get pregnant in our friendship circle and they're like afraid to tell us. And we're like, we don't fucking care. Like they get weird. They're like, I don't know if you know, but, you know, Sarah's pregnant. And we're like, that's awesome. And they're like, yeah, I didn't know if we should. I'm like, we don't fucking care. We're fine. Well, I mean, you know, like we already dealt with the pain of it. It's already, it's a thing that will always exist. But once you get over it, you kind of have to accept that reality. And it doesn't mean it comes without any sort of, like, muck. But it's weird when people kind of put it on you. They're like, is you guys okay with it? You're like, we are. But I think people get uncomfortable because they want to celebrate these things and they feel bad doing it in front of you. And you're like, no, man, I don't, you know. But what I don't, don't invite me to your kid's birthday party. I won't. That is, I'm not going to that. You don't belong there. Yeah, that's insane. People invite us sometimes. I'm like, what's that? Who is that for? You want me to show up without a kid and just stand there with cake? We're friends. I can, let's go to get dinner as adults. Another time. But like growing up when my friends did have kids before me, like I love, like they'd be like, oh, we're going to, you know, his little league game. And I'll be like, I'll sit with you at the little league game. Like, uh, that's different. Active. That's different, right? That's going to support the kids. That's fun. That's a different version. Birthday party is a whole other thing. I don't even always want to be at my own kid's birthday. They're awful. It's a lot. And there's always like a couple of kids that you don't really like and their parents are awful and you have to put up with them because they're in the same class. I see it all from the third party. I'm even annoyed and I don't even have a kid involved. I am dealing with that right now with my son in Little League. And as you know, I'm the DD. Of course you are. The double D. Yeah, of course you are. The dugout dad. Yeah, the dugout dad. And so I got to, I got to, I got to run the show. I got to be like, kid, you're on deck. Warm up. Warm up now. You know, put down the game boy. Let's get ready. Do they play, do they fuck around in the dugout? Like, are they playing? It's literally like bad news bears in there. Like I would watch kids movies and go like, yeah, it's cute. But kids don't really talk like that. They do. There's one kid on my son's team. His name is Max, who just has a nickname for every kid. And he'll walk and be like, Max the Wax. Never drops a ball. Max the Wax. I'm like, get this kid cast. I'm like, that's 10 episodes right there. There's one goose. There's one kid who will only be called Mongoose. The goose, goose, the goose dog. The goose, big goose. I actually respect the goose. We have like a Rudy type kid who's not the best. But he tries really hard. We band around him. Like, I notice it now because like kids are kids and like their parents will be around. And I'll never parent another parent's kid. But I will give a look to the parent and be like, stepping in? No. We all saw. Little Timmy. You know, you let him spit on him. You let him spit like that. Right. Right at the base. He spit right on the bag. He's sitting on second base. He's sitting on it. Nothing. So you just let him fly. And do your best. I have to. I can't. The only thing I'll do. Is collectively like when our little Rudy kid doesn't perhaps do the right thing. And the entire team goes, Rudy. I'll be like, hey, positivity. Yeah. Like we encourage our other. Good job, Rudy. Yeah. Go that way. Come on. Go that way, bud. Yeah. Who is there a kid on the team that absolutely hits dingers that you're like, this kid might be really good when he grows up. Oh, yeah. There is one. You see a moment where it's always one, huh? Yeah. And then and this sounds schmucky because I never want to be that dad. My God bless my wife's family. She comes. My father in law was a quarterback for the Jets, like real athletic family. We should. And thank God my older son got all of that and none of me. So there are moments where I'm like, yeah, dude, but I just don't want to be that dad and be like, how good is he? Because I hate that. I hate. Yeah. Well, your parents do that. It's very annoying, but sometimes it's undeniable. Sometimes my buddy's two kids are unbelievable athletes. Like they're shocking. I I'm a little like awestruck by it because I've seen them as from little kids. Yeah. And now that they're like, you know, preteens and right around that age and young teen. And you're like, that kid's like an that's a that throw is like an adult throw. Yeah. It's a very strange thing to see when they're that young and that kind of like agile and athletic. And then the people around them are OK. But you can tell there's like one step difference where you're like, oh, he's just a step quicker than everybody. It's very strange to watch. But I'm sure the kid is good. Can we know? Do we know the your father in law who that was? Yeah. Ken O'Brien. He was a quarterback for the Jets for the Jets. Wow. decade god that's crazy he was real good now when you met him for the first time yeah was he disappointed in how little of a man you are he must have yeah i can't even imagine say oh brian irish oh you married into an irish family what did your mother say about that she was in acceptance she didn't want it didn't she want a nice jewish girl isn't that the whole thing i guess it can be my mom is like this is basically me without the acting career like she should have been but she was like oh i'm gonna i guess do business because i'm a single mom and have to make a living but she's like the performer talented funny great singer so i think she loves that there's one jewish mother in this scenario ah yes and there's one competition yeah they give her like the stage and love to watch her do her thing and so it's a good balance that's good that's good it's great and god do i love the irish yeah you have to the best yeah they're kind of the most downtrodden of the of the europeans my babe you're all italian 50 50 i don't look like this in in sicily do they no i'm irish and italian yeah there is red there's red italians sicilians we're way we're the we're the little you're a red sicilian that's the name of your new special red sicilian it's also very good pizza he's full irish this scumbag i love that i'm pretty irish redhead italians guess how met the population of italians what percentage or the number percentage percentage of italians that are redheaded less than a half a percent six point oh five seven percent i was literally on the money wow scary less than a half a percent we are a very rare breed redheads in general people assume that i'm irish because i have red hair ironically there's more redheads in england and scotland than there are in ireland it's more of a british trait but i am a redhead irishman but yes sicilian and irish a good mix so i could have married anybody my parents didn't care yeah you were wide open it didn't really matter there was no just get somebody please get somebody do you go to the boot i just like on the boot because tony soprano where you from on the boat i go down we go yeah i go there probably once a year i go we go to europe almost every year for like a job or a gig or a thing and then we end up making a vacation out of it yeah yeah it's the it's the honestly dude if i had my druthers i'd just move and never come back if my parents weren't alive and i and i want them to live for a very long time but if i didn't have parents here anymore yeah we'd be out of here man what about the little what the little korean man oh i don't give a shit about that little fat turd no bobby needs you bobby needs me uh until he doesn't and then he'll be fine he's gonna be perfectly fine no you know what i think i think and i think you know the only other place that i would go to but i would it would have to be when my parents are no longer here is melbourne australia wow why one of the greatest cities on planet earth you love it hands down like it's it's it is stunning the food culture the nightlife the weather like it's it's all the things it's it's i fucking love melbourne it's beautiful man coffee i've heard yeah they brag about the coffee i don't give a fuck about this whole narrative it is good but also they might you know yeah we have we have coffee here yeah there's good coffee and they're always like oh it's not the same mate it's not as good and you're like i think it is i reckon it's not it's not as good mate yeah i'm like you guys don't do coffee the way we do coffee do you get different coffee we get bitter coffee mate you can't get it the way that we get it are they where's the beans from the beans are from a special a special part of australia yeah you can't get it where you middle yeah dead center the dead center and we get it and we won't ship it out we'll just keep it local so you can't you can't be in australia i would fucking love go to melbourne once and you'll go i get it i totally get it the problem i would have to be without parent again i don't want this to happen anytime soon but the problem would be because it's so far you go down there once you're like this is repulsive it's a long it's repulsive it's a it's absurd it's a shot what when you were on the flight you took you sat in the back in the middle row didn't you yeah i was in the middle seat to ozzy but it wasn't that bad because everyone said it was gonna be the worst thing ever and then you sleep for eight hours and that's most of the flight that's all code word for xanax yeah you're on eight xanax well he's he's 26 so he's he's got he's got teenager brain still so you know like he lives free yeah he's wearing socks he's built for the middle seat yeah what are you gonna say i was just gonna say the reason that australian coffee's so good is because 95 of them are independent so there's just a higher uh just they care more about the coffee it's less chains less chains well how about this i don't like chains either i still drink from home i refuse to go to these chains not interested in you not interested in me i'm not interested in these what's your setup at home i've got a couple i have as many as you can dream of i have i have i have regular drip i have french press i have espresso we got it all jesus you come over to my house you need a coffee got you done name your name your you know name your poison i got you are successful no no no but i love coffee i'm upset i drink probably five or six if it's coffee coffee five or six cups of coffee a day yeah and if it's uh espresso uh or capocino yeah i'll have two or three of those sheesh but i don't really get frilly i'm not into like uh you know like my wife likes matcha and she'll go somewhere and she'll get like a honey lavender white macadamia chocolate matcha keep lavender in my sense i don't need to taste lavender sebastian every time bro they got lavender in the coffee i just talked about this on my pod the other day i brought so my three-year-old is is so cute and he's potty trained but he has a little bit of uh he got a little anxiety when it comes to number two me too who does it i know he likes to do it at home me too dude so he wants it holding it all day right i've done that so the other day we go to this uh lafc game the soccer game and uh the sebastian the maniscalco family is sitting right in front of us they notice it right sebastian's beautiful family you know his gorgeous wife and kids and there i'm there with my oldest son and my middle son who's three and he's tooting my three-year-old's tooting he's letting him rip because he's been holding it's outside too lafc it's an outdoor stadium it's outside yeah but it's the wind around he's crop dusting the maniscalcos and i'm like crop dusting from behind i'm just imagining sebastian's new bit where he's like so i'm getting crop dusting and he's like it's almost as if he's throwing it at us i can taste it did you say hello no why i'm such a fan but i just i felt bad i was like hello you're so embedded in the comedy world all the comics know you i'm such a fan i do i feel like the forrest gump of the comedy world like i just get to come around and be around you guys which is the best and uh and you are kind of similar to the gump storyline yes it is kind of fantasy based it's like how did that work out yeah yeah like everyone's kind of like that guy made it that guy yeah wow in here we pour whiskey hey i've talked pretty candidly on this show and publicly about mental health struggles anxiety and depression very real to me and very real to you i've seen a lot of you in public that have told me that and a lot of people online have reached out and i appreciate that being open and honest with the things that you're struggling with and a lot of people have told me that and a lot of people have told me that and a lot of people think should i would i ever try therapy well i'm telling you rula makes it easy and wonderful to access quality 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moment thing that i because the the the guts of that show was really us taking out all of our gripes on each other from that the beginning so we were just fight a lot like the first twenty episodes are probably us just like screaming at each other and then because we would get so so mean to each other we would start making each other laugh by making fun of each other yeah and i remember a photo of his mom and my immediate i started laughing and i thought in my mind like i he'll be really upset if i say something about it and then i just kind of stored it up in my little mean bank of insults and i reached into my safety deposit box when he was making fun of my mom and because my mom is like my that was my that's my one like you talk shit i'm gonna get you like okay we can go back and forth yeah i'm gonna get you because my mom was a single mother for a little while she raised me until she met my stepdad she's my like ultimate hero and so when he said something about her i was like okay okay buddy you want to go let's do it so that thing that little moment in time was an absolute i'm bobby mom was a complete accident like it was not it was in the moment because of all this fuel that i had and the funny thing is to this day it's the most popular part of my presence on the show and we would have never when we recorded that we would have never even thought that like it was just us fighting yeah we thought nothing of it and then it's somehow the internet took it and it's funny what the internet takes it i mean your whole career stuff that the stuff that like people took and you uh put on you or like personified you that you were like really yeah that's i didn't i mean i that's cool that you like it but i didn't even think that that would be like a thing that people would attach to yeah you know what i mean i can't believe how memeable drake and josh has become and i to this day i still see them today yeah and it's it's funny because when we made the show it was just like a kid a popular kid show yeah it was a kid show so it didn't never like broke through it's like something like you know friends or anything that like some crazy really super popular sitcom and so now when people bring it up they'll be like what was it like man at the prime at the top i'm like the top was five years ago when i was 34 right and we hadn't shot it for 15 years that's crazy because of reruns and just all of i was like these lines that have become so um quotable and iconic i'd like when we did them we're like we knew they were funny but we didn't think they would take on a life of their own so it's great but it's because of the fact that we didn't think they would take on a life of their own so it's great but it's because of the fact that we didn't think they would take on a life of their own so the way you guys look and are on the show it was almost like a really it's just i don't know like some things uh some things just make sense that they kind of get into the cultural zeitgeist i don't know why but you don't you definitely don't know when it's happening no that's impossible to know well like there was a great show you're 39 there was a great show called pete and pete do you remember pete and i worked with those guys you did yeah yeah yeah wow yeah my first movie was a movie called snow day when i was 12 years old yeah and it was the writers of pete and pete and uh chevy chase chris elliott oh i know i remember this icky pop that's right pam greer gene smart craziest cast yeah and it was their i think probably one of the few movies that they wrote it was such an iconically odd show it was so ahead of its time the music the intro music he has no idea about that he's too young and it's crazy to me because his generation would have fucking loved that show yeah it was like way ahead of the curve because it was they'd play a lot of 90s nick when i was a kid though well yeah sure they did the repeat but it wasn't like in your cultural youth like it kind of shaped that i worked with arty the strongest man in the world an actor named toby huss who's an incredible actor i worked with him on this this awful project that i can't believe he was a part of because he's better than that and i'm a i was like i have to do this yeah but i remember learning it was him and i was like that was you i'm like because i had i had recognized him from he is the sinatra impersonator in vegas vacation going on the strip where we live hey kid nick papa giorgio he gives him the papa giorgio he gives him the fake license on the strip and he takes the photo and he's singing sinatra he's like crooning on the street and i think he had told me this story that he got the job because he was doing a sinatra bit or impersonation or he was like doing a bit i'm gonna fuck it up if toby ever hears this like that's not right but he was doing that impression and it got wind from the peers they were like we you we want him to do that on the movie so it was like interjected i don't think it was supposed to be the i don't think it was written they found out and they were like that's how he gets the license from this guy selling fake ids on the strip it's incredible that back in the day you did have these things of like people fall face first into the movie world and that does not happen today i mean regardless if he was an actor trying today it's like everything is so calculated yeah there is no like yeah he just got in like when we did um danny trejo he told a story of like how he got in his first movie he was fresh out of prison he was helping his neighbor move trash cans just to be polite in the neighborhood he was like finding god and god told him to do acts of service so he would go do acts of service in his neighborhood and a friend of a friend whose garbage can he was you know helping move was a producer and they were like hey we need guys background guys that look like prison guys you want to go make a hundred bucks a day and he was like hell yeah and then he went and he was commenting he was like well that would never happen in a prison that that's not how that works right and the producer was like what how do you what can you set it up so he did and then eventually they were like let him read the lines and he got the part he's built it's crazy but that just doesn't happen today it's just not a part of what does happen well nothing i mean we're all out of work but you know that's true yeah it's at the games the irony the irony of the writer's strike on top of covid on top of whatever yeah we were like it's gonna come back bigger than that it was over and we were like nothing worked we were wrong i mean it was just kind of like the business had so many hiccups on top of each other that were in this covid writer's strike the digital ai age of of merging mega company internet media streamers multi multi-platform conglomerates all that stuff happened within five years right that's crazy how do we survive i don't know what the business is going to be i mean you still work so you know it's gonna be real good it's gonna work out for guys like us for you dude no i don't work i don't work anymore stop it with that will you tell him will you tell him he doesn't work i don't work anymore a lot of disaster artist situations a lot of disaster artists no i just don't work anymore dude i do podcasting stand up i just don't really have any involvement in it do you think there's a part of it too though that like you don't have any involvement in it anymore you're not gonna take just an easy like if something was just like hey we have this great like guest star on this procedural that no one really that's kind of forgettable you're not gonna do it no because for two reasons one it's not going to service me it's not really a use of my of my abilities because my abilities are very limited so so it's not going to use my ability right and it's also going to take away a job from a young actor who needs it so to me it's weird when bigger actors do it and i'm not saying i'm big but like for someone that really needs it needs a new credit give it that's who needs it give it to them because it's good for their career don't give it to someone you already know and does stuff regularly it doesn't make any sense are you do you still audition yeah no for for like something crazy something good it doesn't it just doesn't happen but i mean if something big if there were like scorsese wants you to audition for like busboy number four i would do whatever he wants i'd shine his shoes but like no but i don't there is no like hey we want you to audition for it doesn't it's just not a part of my world anymore oh bro i go i go in on on it all you do all i'm so preconditioned and i don't know what it is and i i feel all the pain and frustration that one could feel and yet there's a term in sobriety it's it's called have smart feet right which is like you could literally be having your worst day and your world's falling apart and your feet walk you into a meeting right like have trained feet right it's just like your head could be telling you one thing but make sure those fucking feet walk you into a meeting because you'll probably stay sober and that's kind of me with acting it's like i could literally be the most cliche conversation with my half with my shrink the other with my wife going like never again i deserve better than this 30 years 30 years page i can't i can't like and i'll say you know i'll be like two months with christopher nolan i'm auditioning for this and then literally the audition will come the next day and i'll be like can we run can we run the lines please yeah and we run i get that but you're also it's your whole identity you you i've worked on it not being but you're right it's no but it's it's in my view it's a part of your part of my genetics yeah it's part of my dna well now he's doing a jewish thing it is in your genetics it's in your genetic code that's that's that's a part of it you know people say that but they never say the next part which is which is we built this yeah you did it's the neil brennan it's a great neil brennan job neil brennan pod was very funny and the where he says uh you know no one gets upset with italians having a monopoly on salami right you know what i mean yeah like it's theirs and it's not that it's just like we came to broadway in the 30s and we're like god got a couple parts for schmool and they were like schmool fucking beat it yeah like they we were shut out of broadway so the warner brothers and louis b mayer and a bunch of these other guys were like let's go to the west coast and try this movie thing yeah it was genius and it just kind of built and so but i like i don't i gotta say who was on the west coast before you guys who was who was there mexicans and they're not in film and television you didn't help them out at all did you no you kicked them out of echo park oh god oh god boil heights boil heights you kicked them out fuck i'm so sorry yeah i apologize to the entire mexican community right now oh man you kicked them out no you thought i had such a point no you didn't it's wrong - It's bad, no, it's very bad. - I'm sorry. - No, you know, I always wonder when they say when they tell these stories because i'm an old comedy fan and like the the catskill days and and uh the like the the runs of upstate new york for for comics or perform whatever you want to call them because they were also multi-fast they were like a singer and a comedian and an actress and a and a fucking juggler you had to do everything yeah who was fucking them off out of broadway though who was running broadway i don't know was it like mayflower elitist uh seriously because i wonder because i always think about that i'm like who was running the show back then i don't know and i would imagine it would be people with extreme money so it's got to be like um uh yeah uh what is that what am i what's the term i'm thinking of very like anglo fucking wealth you know yeah waspy yeah waspy that's what i'm saying waspy well because it wasn't the fucking irish it wasn't the italians it wasn't he was you know i mean like of all the immigrants that were in in new york right it had to be waspy upper crusty right it was ran by someone called the theatrical syndicate in the late 1800s that sounds bad syndicate six-man group in charge of theaters and booking the power would peak in 1907 so that kind of coincides with talky film coming up in the next 10 years and you know where that that term comes from coincides cohen jewish yeah well like like delicatessen yeah german yes it is not a jewish thing it was like but there's a lot of german jews there are a lot of german jews but jews just saw it as good business like there's nothing inherently jewish about a deli right but then when they came they were like oh and then we can bring some of like the eastern european fare and bagels and whatnot which is inherently jewish but they just saw it as good business and then tried to make their own spin on it they did a good job of it although i'm gonna i'm gonna say something very offensive and awful yeah yeah i don't give a fuck about bagels and i don't care that people like them you're not a bread guy you you're fit you runner you're fit thanks god bless i just think bagels are bullshit i'm sorry i know that's offensive to all my new yorkers but like i don't i've never woken up and gone gotta get a bagel fair i i it's a it's a lump of bread and then they go well have you ever had a bacon egg and cheese ketchup with ketchup and salt and pepper on a fucking bagel i have and it's just as good on a croissant it's just as good on sourdough yes it's the egg and the cheese and the bacon it's not the fucking bagel that you like so much that's the vessel i like that i like that you're i just disagree with bagels i think they're bullshit and also yeah i've never had one and felt great afterwards no it's impossible and for 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what i mean right so they were german and they were like we love these guys and they're like we're jewish they're like go to the west coast continue on your journey it's pretty interesting like where where you see jewish people where they've made you know like whether it's it's you know entertainment and storytelling when i was doing oppenheimer i talked to this jewish astrophysicist right because i had like five lines in the movie right so there wasn't a lot of information a lot for me in the script sure yeah it wasn't there wasn't a lot of evidence in the script of who this guy was sure and i happen to know this guy dr brian keating who's astrophysicist at ucsd jewish cat and i like called him up i'm like can you just give me some good like water cooler physicist talk like just so i can get an insight into what it is and he's like here's the thing about physicists he's like we're obsessed with the laws of the universe he's like and if you're trying to understand the laws of the universe what you're really trying to understand is the mind of god and i was like i don't think i've ever heard anything more jewish i know what god was thinking like no wonder we love physics that's crazy and we've crushed it in physics the mind of god darkest thing in the world see as an irish person we're scared of god so we're taught to be like you better fucking live in fear yeah of doing anything wrong he's gonna know he's watching and he's gonna hurt you for doing bad that was our entire childhood you fucking better not you better not like the looming fear that catholicism did to us as kids was what was detrimental to your health like i remember thinking at night if i did something wrong and my mother was upset or my grandmother heard about it and was like head shaky i was like man is god gonna fucking punish me forever for this yeah and you know the time that i stole i stole someone's bike i harbored that forever thinking about it and i was like man i'm not gonna this is gonna ruin my future and of course we couldn't have kids so that's really what it and that's where it came from yeah i stole a bike once and god was like no children you're looking at the pregnancy test you just hear 10 speed you stole the mongoose you stole the mongoose it was a dino gt bmx with pegs oh that hurt you know what i'm saying you know what i'm saying you know what i'm saying you know i just uh with that looming fear sucked i hate it it was just so that was a constant thing as a kid is that you felt like if you do bad the punishment was real so for our religious upbringing yeah it was all fear-based which is why as we get older i think many people lose they lose their their their connection with catholicism not every of course people are but like i just kind of lost this because i was like man this bullied me into fear my whole childhood it's interesting because for the jewish experience the old testament's not big on an afterlife but our jewish mothers act as the catholic arm of the jewish religion yeah because they do that to us and they go if you get a bad grade all life is over you know if you bring shame to this family that's it it'll put me in the ground it's like for real like yeah i was pretty sure throughout most of my life that god wasn't a fan of mine and that if i did anything wrong i was gonna be like oh my god i'm gonna be remotely that brought shame to my mother it was my life was over yeah and like it was all gonna like i was gonna burn down our family legacy and our ancestors would not be proud of us yeah constantly like it's a crazy thought especially growing up in the public eye in that way i just knew that like if i had any semblance of normal childhood you know if i fell in any way that it just was game over god that's terrible then you learn not to mean it's not true are you religious at all now i am i'm pretty uh i i believe i i do i believe in god and there's not really like any rhyme or reason to it i just because i do 12 step so i'm like a sober guy god is very infused yeah i mean it doesn't you don't have to believe in god to get sober it through 12 set but it sure does help well spirituality is how my i have family members that are in the program and so uh my dad my dad's in the program and so i i i heard it for years but it also was such a different viewpoint of what i grew up with god wise so it kind of like changed my my my worldview of religion i'm not um i don't attach myself to any religion but i'm remarkably spiritual so i just kind of remove myself from you know the religious uh you know that this the direct sects of like what you have to believe in this that's like you know we were catholic as a kid but then when my mom got a divorce the catholic church basically shuns you my grandmother almost didn't speak to my mom for a full year no way yeah she was like i gotta get a divorce my grandmother was like don't you dare like the church will you i mean we will you know we'll kick you out of the church grandma came around grandma santino pretty tough pretty long time tough yeah and other side not santino the other no it was really tough it was like uh she was really mad at my mom she was irish catholic and so she was like you're gonna disgrace everybody you're gonna get a divorce and my mom was like my husband's going to prison you know i think it's a good time for us to get a divorce and my grandmother was like you wait it's crazy dude no my mom had to do it for the health of me my grandmother visiting hours yeah otisville yeah do a conjugal have another child you won't even know he's in prison it'll be for the best it's crazy but that was kind of the thought so for me i removed myself from religion when i was a kid kind of bummed me out and then got back into it because my parents then would go to church my mom my stepdad you not catholic of course they go to just a another christian church and then then as i got older spirituality kind of popped back into my life so now it's more important than ever just because i don't know it's it's it's uh it does something i think when you when you get older you know you've you've lived through a lot of your a lot of life out out out in public and i think when you live that life you kind of experience double time right like you're 60 yeah you know what i mean like you just you've lived almost a double time and you're like oh that's terrible because you have to give so much and you can't there's no anonymity really to your life people are kind of needing you for stuff to look to to be a part of a thing so i think because that you want some help and some answers and that's i think what they do in aa too is like let's have a little bit of help you can't do everything on your own i mean you guys preach that right you say you know god give me the power to come on god grant me the serenity uh yeah man i i just i'm not good when i'm in charge yeah when i'm in charge of things when i am like the last stop the last arbiter of good and bad it's like i just data shows josh you don't always make the right move and the data shows josh will fail yeah and it's just they it's like an old joke in 12 step of like if you're just getting sober like your best thinking got you a front row seat in aa so maybe you don't know yeah switch it up maybe switch time to switch it maybe listen a little see you know because like these people did it and maybe and look it's i never want to sound like i'm preaching because there's other ways to get sober it's not the only way but for me it was helpful and i don't know i find it too with like my wife's grandfather started going to church every day in his 60s i don't know if he did it before then and like i hear that of a lot of people where it's like once you've done the things of this earth right you had a career and you're a career you raised good kids like basically all the cash and prizes like you look at your life in your 60s and 70s like the only one to really get right with is god yeah like that's why i think people kind of go back like you hear chrissy d's mom going to church every day the christmas like lynn god bless her like i respect because it's like you know what do you what do you do then like well i think it's also because many people are um well we all kind of want answers and you start to really look for them as you get older you don't need a lot of answers when you're young because you think you have a lot of answers and you don't need a lot of answers when you're and then you get older and you're like i'd like to i'd like to have some sort of idea of what's what's my positioning what's my meaning you know what i mean i think that's what you get older you kind of want to know yeah what's my purpose what am i doing and it kind of helps a lot of people build purpose whether it's through sobriety whether it's through you know a lack of of certain things going the way that you want them to whether it's can't have kids or you got a divorce or you never 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at fan duel dot com slash predicts slash bonus offer terms bonus slash offer slash terms and i'll let you but i also think you have to reconcile like if you're not mozart like your work's not that important even his wasn't yeah again no his shit was pretty important yeah but i mean on the scale of of everything no who cares it's fine yeah i mean like i always uh like we had mr beast on the good guys and his work is much more important than mozart maybe the most yeah no but like i jokingly and granted he's 27 right but you know i mean i don't know i don't know i don't his effect on the world right like he's trying to um help child uh child slavery with the chocolate trade right like this is his entire chocolate company is so that there's like not doing children doing labor in countries right like god he's having such a positive effect on people and places and things that i go i get annoyed when people want to know when you're going to settle down i'm like maybe that's not for you right right maybe you got bigger fish to fry than like having two and a half kids and like living in like a townhouse sure right like you're helping the world he's doing something yeah like so yeah what do you want him to quit doing something i'm like hyper focus on that maybe you don't need to like worry about the stuff that we civilians worry about it's because we get kind of we get kind of fascinated with this idea that once i get to think i've tied this conversation with many many friends once i get to blank then i will be or feel blank right whether it's money or a promotion or a house or a car or living something like that i'm like i don't know where uh i think we do this a lot as humans so we go like well if i had mr beast's money i wouldn't be doing nothing right it's like that's the first of all no because to get to miss his level you would have to be have the drive to do a lot of things a lot of the time right and it's very it's it's it's antithetical to his being to go uh i'm done now that doesn't make any sense right he wouldn't have got there in the first place if that was his attitude right and also when you do get to the place whether it's money people say oh i'm not going to do that i'm not going to do that i'm not if i made this money i'm good for life right well when you do get to that place your life is remarkably different than when you thought about it before so clearly that would never be the case you know it's like someone in high school being like to never change you're like change a lot yeah please change change the change your brain is the worst right now so like gain gain perspective so with the beast thing i'm always shocked because he he will receive ultimate criticism how could he not you know what i mean like that is going to happen because you're the guy but i think it's a good thing i think what's what's fascinating is um now he has like a responsibility unfortunately to do stuff yeah like now more than ever you're like well you can't quit because you've created something you do a lot of philanthropic work you help a lot of people now you kind of have to keep doing it i hate to tell you but it's almost like it's a good burden to bear it's a great burden to bear and like from i mean he'll do these things like trying to combat you know uh child slave labor to you know building wells in africa like all and this is like a monthly occurrence i'm like just this alone like you've um earned your right to be on this earth right yeah you've Yeah, more so. You rang the gratitude bell. Like, I always say, like, giving back is sort of like your cover charge on existence. Yeah. Right? And I'm like, and you're doing that on a monthly basis. I'm like, whatever. And, of course, the world has criticism because it's what we love to do. Yeah. I'm like, your presence is such a net positive for this world. And you're a mensch. You're a sweet kid. I've heard he's a good guy. He's a good dude. Meanwhile, he's doing all that good, delicious work. And Bill Gates is with Russian prostitutes. So we learned that our nerd hero is a pervert. It's so funny. He's like, he's a billionaire. And we're doing a lot of stuff with the Gates Foundation. Also, yes, I was with a couple of hookers once in a while. What are you going to do? Oh, man. It's crazy. It's crazy. He had a company meeting and talked at the company. You know this? He brought this up at the company meeting because they were doing like a, hey, we want to come clean. And he was talking to the company to have your boss being like, and yes, I made money. I made mistakes with hookers. And yes, I did. It's just, it's such an insanely funny thing in my mind. Like tech guys getting talked to by this tech god and being like, and I, I also love Russian whores. What can I do? It's crazy, dude. It's crazy. I just feel like, Bill, you know what you should be most ashamed of? Windows is still not great. It's still not great. It's not. It's just not the Mac OS. It just wasn't what we thought it was going to be. So many iterations. I know. I've been to Best Buy many times. I bought the upgrade. I got the CD-ROM. No. It's just not. Jobs is dead and they're still making better shit from the grave. Yes. It's crazy. It's unbelievable. And Jobs, and Jobs didn't pass the torch, by the way, because I don't know if they've made anything good in a long time, but they're still making good stuff. Apple is the same. These are the same things for how many years? It's kind of the same. How many years have we had this now? Yeah. It's the same thing. Mine has one less camera. Yes. Yeah. That's what they changed. They actually downgraded. As I went up, they took it away. Yeah. Because I got the phone. I wanted the thinnest phone. The great, the great Robbie Hoffman. Robbie Hoffman has a bit about how Steve Jobs would be rolling over in his grave if he saw what they did with the iWatch. Oh, yeah. Yeah. This. Yeah. This is what you came up with. It's terrible, dude. This, this thing on your wrist. It's so goofy looking. It's just, it doesn't feel, it feels like he might've had a different. Yeah. I wonder what he would have created had that bit. What would be the next iteration of a, of a mobile phone device? And I, and you know, they worked on those meta glasses and I, I got sent the original pair. Of Ray Bans that could take video and then that was kind of the beginning of the end to me because I was like, Oh, and when meta glasses are real, when it's fully integrated in there, not just for video and sound, I was like, we will reach a time when people are talking in public to no, to not you, it will just be droves of people near each other speaking to whomever they're looking at in their glasses. We're it's coming baby. It's great. Log in. I welcome the end. Yeah. Well, it's here. It's already here. Great. Yeah. You want to be over? I. Listen, I always say this about God. I'm like, I, whether God exists or not is, is above my pay grade. I just act as if, cause I think under this social contract, the rules of this simulation, it works out in your favor for the most part. Yeah. Being a scam. I'm not built to be a scoundrel. Like it's not my thing. I can't excel. I don't excel. Some people do. Is there anything that you haven't done yet that you want to do before you go? Oh man. I want to try. I want to, I want to try beignets. I never tried it. In New Orleans. It seems bomb. Isn't that what it is? And the donuts. Yeah. Very good. Didn't we have those? You've been there, Irishman? Mm-hmm. Yeah. We went down there. Wow. On tour. This kid went everywhere. We went everywhere. Went everywhere. You can't, you can almost, I've, I've been to every state in the United States. Sands four. Wyoming. Wyoming. I've been to. South Dakota. No, I've never done the Dakotas, which bothers me. Not, there's not a lot of people there. I don't know why I've never done the Dakotas. Okay. Two more, two more, two more. You can get it. I promise. You've probably been to Alaska. They want to see you. Wow. That's funny because I canceled a trip to Alaska this past year. That's where we were supposed to go. One more. Okay. There's got to be a fucking. It's kind of an easy one. There's got to be a Zanies in New Hampshire. Well, New England is easy because when you're on tour as a young guy, you hit all, you go all over New England. You do it. Is there a fucking, is there a helium in West Virginia? West Virginia, you got to go to, to go somewhere else. Oh, man. Virginia's are kind of one of those places you're like, well, this is on the way through another place. Right. But there's, so, and there's one and it's easy? Yeah. I figured you'd get it right away. The Dakota's so hard. Because when you go to the, if you're, if it's nothing in the Northwest, like you already just named, where's the other very odd place to go? Wyoming, the Dakotas, Montana, Idaho? Tip it out, baby. No, Idaho's wonderful. I love Idaho. That is fabulous. Coeur d'Alene. Coeur d'Alene. Can you imagine us? Don't tell anybody. Come on. If we start talking about people, we're going to start going. Us in Boise? Please. You're fucking crazy. I love, I actually love Boise. I fucking, I had so much fun. Okay. Tip it out. Tip it out. Think about it. Tip it out, man. Minnesota, Wisconsin. Tip, tip, tip, tip it out. Tip, tip or gore. Yeah. Yeah. Where does she live? Gore's wife. Minnesota? No. You've definitely been there. I shot my special there. Tip it out. What's the tips? Look at the tips. The tips of the country? Yeah. Washington? Maine? Maine. But that's New England. You said you went to all the New England things. Yes, but that's, but Maine is its own. It's its own New England. Maine is far away from everybody. It's, it's Canada. Maine is Canada. It's borrowing Canada. I don't really claim that. New England is more like, you know, Mass, Vermont, New Hampshire. These are all really New England. Maine is, and I'm sure Maine people are going to be like, fuck you, and whatever New Brunswick accent that they fucking have. Yeah, Portland. But they, but it's so weird up there. I used to take boxing lessons from this guy, Macca Foley. He was in his 60s. Mac O' Foley? Macca Foley. Oh, Macca Foley. Macca Foley. Macca Foley. His record was 65 and 58. He threw a couple fights, you know, and he was from Portland, Maine, and he used to say, Macca Foley, they call me the Portland deer. I'm from Portland, Maine, where men are men and sheep are scared. He was the best. Macca Foley. He was the best. Yeah, Maine has this, I just have never, I've never been there. I've never done it. There's nothing. I don't think I've been either. Well, it's a very, I have a buddy from Banger, Maine. Banger, yeah. And he's always like, you got to go. Go, man, you guys, it's beautiful. And I know it's a beautiful country, but again, there's nothing, there's no work that I went up there for. Julie the Cat Gaffney is from Bangor, Maine. Bangor, Maine is such a beautiful name, too, Bangor. You know who she is? Julie the Cat Gaffney? Yeah, she was the goalie in Mighty Ducks, too. It was her character's name. Love. The Flying V. Listen, I made a movie with the director, creator of that movie series, Steve Brill, and I wasn't in a good place during that time, I'll be honest. Were you using? A little bit. Yeah. A little, just a taste. A little taste. And I would just make a lot of Mighty Ducks references to him all the time, whether he liked it or not. He did not. He would give me notes, and I'd be like, do you want me to do this like when Julie the Cat stepped in at the end of Mighty Ducks 2 and, you know, like, and did a glove side save that won the game? And he'd be like, you'll never work again. I'd be like, for a while, you're right. For a while, I didn't. Do you still, do you know Steve at all still? I don't, I don't. Like, you know, God bless him. I'm sorry about that. I was like. I'm going to text him right now and tell him that I'm with you, and he's going to make some more Mighty Ducks references. Please do. Please do. What do you think he's going to say? I tell him I owe him a 20-year-old amends. I'm literally going to tell him that I'm with you, and I'm going to say that. Oh, solid. You should. I'm with Josh Peck. He says, get fucked. Perfect. He says. I owe him a 20-year amends. Okay, he owes. I'll finish this after the pot. I'm going to sit there for an hour texting him. No, but that, you know. But Mighty Ducks was such a good movie. I get doing that as a kid. If I got to work with someone when I was young. Yeah. And bring back my youth. Like, I was obsessed with Batman. Which one? Obsessed. Forever. Batman 1, the original. Oh, the original. The real one. Okay. I know all these young kids like all this new shit. We get in these fights all the time, and bad. Yes, the new Batmans are great. Yes. But the original was magical. Because it was a Burton world. Michael Keaton. Yeah. Danny DeVite. No. Not in the first one? Wasn't the Penguin? Jack. Jack was in the first one. He was? He was the Joker. Wow. It's Michael Keaton. Got it. Jack. Nicholson. Right. And who was the female lead? Zendaya. Kim Basinger. Or Basinger? What is it? This is a Family Guy joke. Basinger? Basinger? Which one is it? Basinger? It was such an incredible movie. It was like one of the greatest. Wow. I loved, I was obsessed. So like, you know, if I ever got a chance to work with like Burton, I'd freak out. I would talk about Edward Scissorhands incessantly. I would want to ask a million questions. I get that. I get when people do that. You're like, how could I not? Like Fairly, when I worked with Fairly on that movie, it was impossible to not want to say stuff. I didn't because it, I, but I, I brought up a few things. Dumb and Dumber. My greatest childhood memories were with Dumb and Dumber. Me and my friend Sean would sit in my mom's basement and we'd rewind the VHS until we wore it out. We wore it out because we'd rewind scenes like 10 times so we could watch them again and again and get the cadence of Jim and like get the joke beat and like understand the, the rhythm of the writing. I watched that movie so many fucking times. It's absurd. I would see like little tiny thing, like mistakes that they'd make. You start to find them all. It's crazy. Like I asked about, cause I know Pete notoriously puts his friends in all of his films. He's an extremely loyal guy. So every one of his friends over the years has had like a little piece of every film and there was a scene. There is a scene where in the background there's a man pissing on the side of a building, uh, when they are, um, when they get. get robbed from little old lady on the cart when they go to get groceries i was like who is that guy and he's like oh that was a high school friend of mine that's funny that you saw that because there was a man just it's so funny he was such a throwaway but he's far in the background but he's just pissing on the side of a building you see his back and you see him shake off and i was like that had to been and he's like yeah that was a high school buddy and i was like that's so cool to be able to like throw those little pieces in there oh it just that's when comedy movie making was at its most fun no comedy movie making doesn't exist it died it's weird it's just sinners was hilarious now that was a comedic power yeah they just don't exist anymore man they don't want them they're not interested in them they're all for streamers people don't want to go to the theaters and sit and watch a comedy and laugh together because i know so you know so people don't they just don't want to do that anymore because of us we fucking ruined it ourselves the internet is all day every day any time of the day whenever you want it and it's a an endless stream of like joke comedy comedy meme joke sketch it's so constant it's not rare so it'd be hard to sell a comedy to a big to a theater audience now but didn't wasn't that conan's joke or didn't he say something to that effect like i can't beat a woman walking into a glass door at the grocery store no like he just was like that's like and that's what we're bombarded with it's like a fail you know uh fail army or whatever it's called like love fail army yeah or like just people slipping yeah it's funny getting hit in the penis still is funny it was funny 10 000 years ago i'm sure cavemen were like oh and they saw someone get hit in the wiener yeah it's still funny farting is still funny the simplest things are still funny so when we try to make these big productions to fight against massive superhero or thriller it's comedy was perfect for those that the time that it was the big thing it was still funny it was still funny it was still funny it was still funny it was still funny it was still funny it was still funny it wasn't add up i've always though thought like i would just love to see snl if they gave themselves a month i agree might be pretty good i agree but you know what the the other problem is uh comedy comedy doesn't age well usually and the more time you're able to spend on some of that stuff i think ironically the worse it would become because you would overthink it to death but was it built in the 70s on the we'll just do coke all week right but was it built in the 70s on the we'll just do coke all week right this and bang this out and they should still be doing that the problem is everyone's a sober door took the coke out the coke out they hired a bunch of an intellectual funny smart cool young kids instead of coke addicts dissonance and lunatics and and and rejects of society for sure that was the problem is that the show progressed to a place where they wanted young intellectual very smart writing quick cultured they used to have it was all the it was the bad news bears it was the bad bad kids it was the fuck ups the drug addicts and the bad news bears it was the bad bad kids it was the fuck ups the drug addicts it was the bad bad kids it was the fuck ups the drug addicts the goofballs the show up late the not show the drug addicts the goofballs the show up late the not show ups the weirdos the unfortunate looking i the show up late the not show ups the weirdos the unfortunate looking i mean there were some ups the weirdos the unfortunate looking i mean there were some lauren cast cute people now it used mean there were some lauren cast cute people now it used to be like uggo wuggos i mean that show had lauren cast cute people now it used to be like uggo wuggos i mean that show had some hideous looking fucking to be like uggo wuggos i mean that show had some hideous looking fucking people come across it the best and that was what you wanted people come across it the best and that was what you wanted was weirdos but now they're selling tv and that was what you wanted was weirdos but now they're selling tv but they're selling pepsi was weirdos but now they're selling tv but they're selling pepsi at the you know what i mean like the but they're selling pepsi at the you know what i mean like the commercials are you want to sell at the you know what i mean like the commercials are you want to sell these people so they got to be commercials are you want to sell these people so they got to be kind of good to look at but didn't these people so they got to be kind of good to look at but didn't they do recently like last week kind of good to look at but didn't they do recently like last week do something where they surprised they do recently like last week do something where they surprised one of the performers like mid do something where they surprised one of the performers like mid sketch i don't know yeah and they one of the performers like mid sketch i don't know yeah and they called it out mid-scale like how sketch i don't know yeah and they called it out mid-scale like how they used to do with stefan how called it out mid-scale like how they used to do with stefan how they were oh right right right they used to do with stefan how they were oh right right right right except they called it out in the they were oh right right right right except they called it out in the sketch they put down that the sketch they put down that the the cards were switched and ashley padilla and ryan gosling were the cards were switched and ashley padilla and ryan gosling were breaking it was very funny oh that's breaking it was very funny oh that's good i think that's going to be the next level right because good i think that's going to be the next level right because like what's the best like what's the best in my opinion the best sketch every in my opinion the best sketch every year is when jost and chay switch year is when jost and chay switch jokes it's by far the greatest genius but jokes it's by far the greatest genius but you can't do it more than once a year you can't do it more than once a year because it would then lose all of its because it would then lose all of its fun right yeah but that to me those two fun right yeah but that to me those two bits have the same element right it's bits have the same element right it's like they've now brought the audience in like they've now brought the audience in on this like surprising of the performers on this like surprising of the performers like maybe you can't make it as ultra like maybe you can't make it as ultra polished as it once was because sure polished as it once was because sure yeah it's yeah it's i don't know i i like people loved i don't know i i like people loved adolescence right which was like the adolescence right which was like the show shot in each hour was shot in one show shot in each hour was shot in one take and it was brilliant and genius take and it was brilliant and genius and my feeling was the only thing that and my feeling was the only thing that would have made it slightly better would would have made it slightly better would would have been edits would have been edits try it try it like i think that'd be good too like i think that'd be good too like birdman was good you could have like birdman was good you could have you could have cut it up we figured away you could have cut it up we figured away there was a there was a few ways to slice that up yeah we figured out a way i mean editing is a powerful tool any editing sick well is a powerful tool any editing sick well is a powerful tool any editing sick well editing editing editing is the is the actual secret ingredient is the is the actual secret ingredient is the is the actual secret ingredient for comedy truly 100 for comedy truly 100 for comedy truly 100 editing is the secret ingredient for editing is the secret ingredient for editing is the secret ingredient for comedy and live editing which snl does comedy and live editing which snl does comedy and live editing which snl does sometimes sometimes sometimes i mean does which they because they're i mean does which they because they're i mean does which they because they're cutting away yeah cutting away yeah cutting away yeah that is a dance in all of itself like that is a dance in all of itself like that is a dance in all of itself like what they talked about i think bobby what they talked about i think bobby what they talked about i think bobby moynihan talked about the greatest moynihan talked about the greatest moynihan talked about the greatest live cutaway ever is anything to keenan live cutaway ever is anything to keenan live cutaway ever is anything to keenan anything to keenan is anything to keenan is anything to keenan is perfect television literally because perfect television literally because perfect television literally because even when he's not ready the up even when he's not ready the up even when he's not ready the up keenan is is just as funny as the he keenan is is just as funny as the he keenan is is just as funny as the he knows it's coming it's brilliant so knows it's coming it's brilliant so knows it's coming it's brilliant so like the the that's the truth about like the the that's the truth about like the the that's the truth about the secret the true secret of comedy the secret the true secret of comedy the secret the true secret of comedy whether it's a special or a sketch or a whether it's a special or a sketch or a whether it's a special or a sketch or a tv show the editing is that's the real tv show the editing is that's the real tv show the editing is that's the real magic and that is it that way on magic and that is it that way on magic and that is it that way on specials too 100 it's like you have to specials too 100 it's like you have to to be surgical with the edit yeah you do i mean look you could just hold it on a one shot of somebody but there's something about really good editing in a special that does something for the power of the joke it does something for the movement of the you know and that the directing and editing of a special doesn't get enough credit yeah a lot of people don't know that but it's hard to communicate that americans don't give a fuck right they're like well i just saw a clip on youtube for the shorts right you know and it was a fucking long shot one shot who cares right because they're just inundated with who gives a fuck it's slop just to consume it so it's hard now to be creative and artistic on a special because i think people just are a little don't i don't know how much people care as much as they used to they're like just give me the slop right just give me the fucking slop shove it down my throat i want i want to eat it the um when the on how i met your father the showrunners were these he's rubbing it in again i'm gonna text brill right now 30 eps i was only in 13 um but you the showrunners um isaac and elizabeth who are brilliant and they had just come off of um this is us right so like five seasons one hour drama i'm like never heard of the show is it popular huge never heard of it loved huge and so i was kind of like oh this must be like not a breeze but like this must be a fun sort of relief from you know one hour hard charging show and and isaac said this is way harder and i was like why he goes because it's four cameras and it's a sitcom he's like i can't recut this right right like we're locked it's gotta work on the page it's gotta work in the performance because there's very little i can do to fix this in the edit i was like wow i never thought of yeah that's scary yeah i give a lot of way more daunting cred to the sitcom the great sitcoms well because you're also saying that this is us was uh not as good of a show as what you're saying and that's that's really what you were saying wow i was yeah was i i love this great show milo ventimiglia i i just meant milo ventimiglia and jesse metcalf i am their ugly version think about it yeah not ugly you're there um they weren't done yeah yeah they didn't finish god like a little clay you're like the 3d printer and it just kind of it's getting as close as it can yeah i got some bad edges like man we gotta fix that thing something's wrong when it gets around to the side the edge it's just not the same the jaw's off Milo beautiful man beautiful man cutie I know I did the pilot of that show and I knew that that thing was I was like man so many bangers in this show like so many good actors yeah and the script was good I mean the whole thing was kind of a home run and then he went on Fogelman went and did Only Murders which was like a couple of home runs back to back Fogelman's the man he knows what he's doing dude he's the man he's very aware of what he's doing I'm a big fan yeah he's I was in his first movie with Pacino that he directed wait which one it's called Danny Collins oh I know yeah Danny Collins that's right he wrote and directed and I was I had only like three scenes in the movie but they were all with they try to keep me in smaller I'm better in small doses I'm like micro dosing like too much and you want to throw up I had but all my scenes were with Pacino and like we were literally in this middle of a scene one day and Pacino goes oh and I'm like really I'm like are you going full Pacino right now and he's like I'm exhausted and i'm like i bet yeah you're a hundred years old i'm like dude i don't blame you like take a rest but he's been working non-stop for his whole life yeah and he loves it yeah he's one of those guys i feel like he's always doing something which is fucking crazy to me he loves it yeah good for him though what else are you gonna do it's the best al pacino did did say that one of the biggest blunders of his entire career was one of my favorite things he ever did which was dunka chino that's the best that's a blunder i think he was very upset by that it's the best it's very for people that don't know about the dunka dunka dunka dunka dunka chino yeah al pacino played did a duncan donuts commercial in yeah the commercial was a fake no it was a real commercial fake commercial in a real movie what was it jack and jack and jill yeah sam adam sam's movie and i have heard that he said not stoked about doing that that he was really bummed that he did it his assistant told me that his favorite moment with pacino was they were it was al and christopher walken were doing a movie together and they're in a scene and during a break they're bringing al's stuff to sign off of of tony montana memorabilia like scarface stuff and walken looks at him and goes you know do you make money every time you know with tony and he goes of course you know i make money from all of it and walking goes you know i've never made a dollar from cowbell never a dollar from cowbell it's like walken's pissed about cowbell yeah because they do sell that on a million shirts there's more cowbell on everything that's so funny cowbell money can't do it can't can you imagine how many fucking pieces of memorabilia are out there of every any line that galifianakis said from the hangover they don't he doesn't that exists just at every boardwalk shop yeah you know what i mean that's just that's just a part of the culture of america is like well we're gonna sell that you're not gonna see any of that money no no it's just that's just you became an iconic character or a thing you did it's over now you just gotta let it ride don't i know it well you're gonna be just fine no residual no residual whatsoever so break open your uh the sag after app let me see i'm doing it i'm doing all right but not not in that oh do you like looking at the 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