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How about Azor Statler as a team name? Anyway. There you go. Yeah, so we're going to talk about the Josh Jacobs news and maybe some other stuff from last night. Some other news and notes. If we don't get to news and notes on this show, we'll get to it on the mailbag that we're recording later this afternoon. All right, let's get right into it, though. Josh Jacobs, charged with two misdemeanors. He is not officially charged with domestic violence. Well, no. Right. He doesn't have a domestic violence charge. He doesn't have a felony charge. I rely, I'm sure you guys do, too, on Drew Davenport of Football Guys, who's also a practicing attorney who does a good job breaking this down. And what he basically said, I encourage you to follow him on Twitter. What he basically said was the way I read it. If there were no video, this would probably be good news for Jacobs in terms of avoiding a suspension. But there is, according to the police report, a video that shows him throwing this woman down. This is his girlfriend. And that is the bombshell that we're waiting to, you know, potentially be leaked. So what are we doing with Josh Jacobs? Where would you draft him right now, Jamie? And what about Marshawn Lloyd? What are you expecting here? I mean, you got to, you got to go into this draft weekend or whenever you're holding your draft until we find out what's next with the idea of a potential suspension, which could be anything from, I would guess, four to, four games to the season. You know, there's, there's past, there's history of similar situations with Zay Jones and Von Miller. Of those two guys getting suspended, I believe both were misdemeanor charges for something similar or misdemeanor charges. Or misdemeanor charges. I know for Von Miller it was. I don't know Zay Jones. It's just uncertainty. And so because of the uncertainty, the earliest I would draft him right now would probably be round five. I have him actually in round six. So I'm trying to avoid Josh Jacobs. And this is coming from somebody who this week drafted him at the end of the third round. I'm sorry, beginning of the fourth round. Dave? I feel just about the same way. You have to understand the risks involved and there are definitely, there's no reason to feel bad about being, risk averse when it comes to your fantasy team. No one wants to draft somebody that they're going to be without potentially for the entire season or even for as few as, I think six games might be the minimum and not four, but we've seen it for these types of charges before lower than six. We don't know. No one knows. I don't think Jacobs knows. I doubt the Packers know, but the Packers said that they do have a plan in place in case something were to happen to Jacobs. That seems a little more likely now. I am definitely in that round five range and it's late round five. I understand the risks involved with drafting Josh Jacobs. However, this is a spot where I wanted, I don't mind taking a chance on the Packers run game and we've seen LaFleur's been around seven seasons in Green Bay. One of his backs has finished top 13 in PPR points per game, six of seven seasons. It was Aaron Jones last season when a Packers running back did not finish top 13. So my game plan is I'm not actively trying to draft Jacobs, but if he falls in late round five and I feel like I'm a little light at running back and those are the caveats. Yes, I will draft Josh Jacobs and then two to three rounds later, I'm going hard after Marshawn Lloyd. I want to get him on my team. If I've got Jacobs, I kind of want Lloyd on my team either way. And I think a lot of people are going to feel that way. And that means he's going to end up being around eight pick. He said on X yesterday, he was in his FFT open league. He Lloyd went with the 11th pick in round seven. So you're going to see people starting to reach a little bit for Marshawn Lloyd. And maybe Jamie feels differently than I do. Dave, I just took him this morning. Me and a guy, I share a team with Mike with the 11th pick of round seven, 80th overall. So this is good information. Jamie, when would you take Lloyd? You didn't mention that, did you? It's funny you say that because I went back and looked. I've been drafting Lloyd in almost every, he's my most rostered player of all the drafts I've done by that. Yeah, sure. And now I would probably take him round eight. I think round seven's a little too soon. There's other players there because again, of the uncertainty. My biggest fear with the potential suspension in relation to Lloyd is they're probably going to go get somebody because I don't think they go into the season with Lloyd and his track record playing one game in the NFL so far, appearing in one game in the NFL so far. And Chris Brooks can say that's it if this is a season long suspension. If it's a six game suspension, I think they go get somebody. If it's a four game or less suspension, then they probably just manage through it. But if this is six plus games, six games or more, I think they're, hey, Giants, Tyrone Tracy available. Hey, Cardinals, James Conner available. Hey, blah, blah, blah. Because this is a Super Bowl caliber team. And knowing that they're so dependent on their run game, whatever you think of Jordan Love, they are a run first team. Do they feel comfortable enough with a very injury plagued Marshawn Lloyd, whatever you may think of him, or going out and trying to fortify a backfield. So it's not going to take much to get one of these second, third, fourth string running backs off somebody's team to help their roster, which in the case that that happens, it ruins our fantasy rosters, especially if you're taking Lloyd too soon. So if it's Connor, if it's Tracy, if it's Jalen Wright, you know, whatever the Sean Tucker, you know, whatever the case may be of the of the level of player that you're taking, that will tell you what they think of Lloyd. But I don't think it's Jacobs misses Lloyd superstar unless again, it's four games. Yeah. Or unless they don't make a move or the guy they bring in really doesn't scare you. The names you mentioned, some of them would scare me a little bit Connor, especially, but I know that I kind of went on a sliding scale there of, of, of how it could go. Right. Sure. Well, okay. Trey Benson's a free agent, right? He got cut by Arizona this. No, he's back on their practice. Oh, he's on their injured list. Whatever it is. He waved injured. So he's not, he's not even available anyway. So nevermind that, but they could find somebody that there's going to be cuts this weekend. They could find somebody off that heap and bring them in. I don't think I'd be scared about anybody that they bring in that way. You know, I try to fortify the depth. It really comes down to who they add, if they add. And I think you're right. I think they would add somebody, but I don't know if it's going to be a big name guy. That's the thing is I don't think it's, I don't think it's Kyron Williams, Mrs. Blake quorum. Oh my God. It's very easy to see path to superstardom. I don't think it's Rondre Stevenson, Mrs. Trevion. Henderson superstar. I don't know. Like Marshawn Lloyd should be in the driver's seat. He should be the guy that you're drafting. He should have an opportunity to be amazing. That being said, I don't think the Packers are going to feel comfortable enough with what they have right now to go into the season. If Jacobs is going to miss a significant amount of time, but I do think they've seen enough from Lloyd to know that he could handle carrying the majority of the water there. Chris Brooks is still there and he, that's the one that's, that's the part of it though. I'm not so sure on. Okay. Do they feel comfortable enough to trust their team? to Marshawn Lloyd. let me ask you this question always hurt by the way who has been always hurt but he's not about his talent it's about his durability i understand that oh there's no question that they would add somebody at the 11th pick in round seven if jacobs is suspended you're starting potentially marshawn lloyd as a low and number two running back and getting that type of player with the 11th pick in round seven or later just seems like a screaming value to me yeah well that's the whole i'd be i'd be happy to go and get him it would obviously change if they make a big splash at running back and if they do that before a suspension is handed down then you know that something really bad is going well they know that every time i know they know but we don't know right they don't they may not know and here let me just bring this up they may not know the extent of the suspension but they know that there is a suspension potentially looming if it's going to happen but here's well right if it's going to happen so first of all i i think you know he's got a court his first court date is in november so i think it could be pushed back to the end could absolutely be pushed back those things get pushed back all the time you look at rashid rice you look at deshaun watson high profile highly publicized cases those guys did not get suspended until the following year i just looked up the von miller and zay jones situation von miller was suspended on october 1st of 2024 he was arrested in well he the the allegations were in november 2023 yeah he was arrested november 30th of 2023 he was arrested in november 30th of 2023 he was arrested in november 30th of 2023 and suspended october 1st of 2024 it's a year zay jones was pretty similar it wasn't quite as long i don't think um he was charged on november 13th and he was uh suspended on august 23rd so not as long but these things take a very long time the only thing that's going to accelerate a suspension is if the video is jamming and if the video is out there and public sees it the nfl is going to react quickly yes i agree but i think it's going to be a very long time i think it's going to be a i think you know if you're if you are okay and i hate talking about it like obviously if any domestic violence you know it's disgusting but we have to talk about jacobs as a fantasy value here like the guy was the number six running back in fantasy two years ago with the packers before he got hurt and played the last three games injured last year he was averaging night over 19 points per game so he's performed like a like a first round pick if you can get him in the fifth round and we'll see where he goes today we're going to start the draft momentarily here we'll see where he goes today we'll see where he goes today we'll see where he goes today we'll see where he goes today and then you want to commit to just locking up lloyd like it's worth it to me to use two roster spots even though one of them could be useless for for however long like just to get that packers running back because you could have a number one running like the top 12 running back um it's not unreasonable that lloyd could do that for four or five games or something like that you know and jacobs obviously has shown what he can do all right let's see where he goes let's start the draft here um remember we have our mailbag coming up we're going to do auction strategy and a mailbag during the mailbag show and thank you to all of you who are drafting with us today nine listeners plus jamie the draft is underway uh jamie you have the sixth pick just speaking in general this is a half ppr 10 team league we are starting two flexes two running backs two receivers tight end quarterback two flexes uh what's a bigger impact for you in terms of strategy the half ppr angle or the 10 team angle in terms of strategy the 10 team angle okay expand on that you know the everybody's gonna have an all-star team that goes without question so this is the type of size of a league where taking a quarterback early is a little bit more acceptable taking a tight end early is more acceptable um and i think just knowing that there's three potentially elite tight ends i'm gonna make it a priority if i can get one in rounds two or three so look at adam putting himself on the top of the screen i didn't do that i swear that wasn't sure you've earned it i well the just looking at the raiders last night and bowers played on the first drive and that was it um they haven't decided on a quarterback personally watching the tape of mendoza the last two weeks i think he's been a lot better than his crappy numbers there have been a lot of drops two by ian thomas yesterday one by nailer that was an interception it was a tough play but are you getting a little nervous about bowers based on a lackluster preseason from the raiders offense not at all no i think i think the worry would be that we we talk about other teams not scoring a lot of points could the raiders fall into that trap and not be could they be bottom 10 and points scored this year and i think that's possible just given yeah how cousins is and how mendoza's looked and yeah some of the mistakes aren't mendoza's fault i don't think that's enough to knock bowers especially in leagues where i really in any league just because he does have so much potential to just he could lead the nfl he could lead the nfl in receiving yards i mean there's a world where he could just absolutely smash and as a rookie set the rookie record for receptions with crappy quarterback play yeah they were 28th they were 28th in scoring as a rookie and he was a top three tight end almost number one per game and i like trey tucker he's an interesting sleeper no doubt i'm going to draft trey tucker and a bunch of leagues late but there's nobody on this team that's going to command seven plus targets per game other than bowers now in this draft it's half ppr so give me a couple of picks and i'm going to go with gibbs bijan or one and two chase puka three four jonathan taylor number five i don't know if that pick was a hey i want to make sure i get a top 11 running back because i may not get it in round two or a this is a half ppr league so i'm going to boost jonathan taylor ahead of st brown and jackson smith and jigba so the first seven picks were gibbs bijan chase puka jonathan taylor i'm on ross st brown and jackson smith and jigba to and jamie took st brown um james cook christian mccaffrey and i'm going to go with gibbs bijan and derrick henry round out the top 10 so team 10 took derrick henry so the last three teams took a running back let's see how many of them start rbrb and jamie you took st brown in round one but in this 10 team league you know you have a much better chance of getting a top 11 running back in round two i have a feeling that was a factor for you yeah of course you know i i think just looking at it that the uh the spot that i'm in and the again amount of teams it's a little easier now there could be a huge run on running back which is fine i'll adjust but i think just again getting a player who i think for me is my third receiver up on the board i was thrilled to do yeah so far we are 12 picks in and there have been seven running backs taken so if you want a top 11 guy you know you're asking yourself and attending me where do i feel comfortable if i have a first round pick in the top whatever getting that 11th guy we'll see who where that is here i think jamie's going to be just fine all right so round three was chase brown to the henry manager aj brown to the mcafree manager kenneth walker to the james cook manager and devon a chan is that 11 or is there one more hampton oh hampton's still there jamie you're gonna take hampton here nope really take lamb oh you took powers i don't like it i want to be elite he makes me elite at that spot so does omari and hampton maybe maybe omari and hampton doesn't make him a lead at tight end and if you're i'm pretty sure how would you have felt if you had gotten hampton here and then mcbride in round three i would have felt great about it but that's something that i can't control i can't control hours and that was the reason i did it what's the drop off for you from bowers to mcbride and mcbride to loveland because loveland would have made it there in round three uh potentially again you know i think if you're going into a 10 team league you should try and separate yourself because everybody's going to have great teams i don't know i but you went so far off your rankings based on this 10 team league like well not that far off you moved them up to what was that 15th though you you took powers 15th overall where do you have and i have bowers at 20 and i have hampton at 14 so i went one spot that's behind my rankings and four spots ahead that's pretty big i'll get lamb going 17th yeah lamb someone said in the chat i i can't see lamb going after aj brown which is what happened i agree yeah i agree too half ppr maybe changes it a little bit um all right round two is chase brown aj brown kenneth walker devon achan brock bowers to jamie omari and hampton to the jonathan taylor manager so team five got taylor and hampton team four had puka in round one cd lamb in round two team three took jamar chase and then nico collins team two took bijan robinson and justin jefferson i mean jefferson going after aj brown and nico collins then we had rashid rice and george pickens at the two three turn by the way beat reporter went on a podcast and said george pickens might be the guy that gives defenses more fits this year sure um he gave fits last year we got uh we got to take a break actually so i'm gonna pause the draft after jamie picks we'll get to jamie here so rashid rice was the last pick of round three we had a run of six of round two pardon me we had a run of six straight wide receivers after hampton lamb nico jefferson and rice picks 17 through 20 then we go into round three we have george pickens and we have jamie pickens and we have jamie pickens and we have malik neighbors and then saquon barkley what dude saquon barkley going to the second pick 23rd overall third pick of round three so it's a steal way too late in a half bpr league kyron williams after him i started looking at barkley on the board and looking at where jamie was and jamie was four picks away and i i thought is there a chance that barkley makes it back but with two teams starting receiver receiver picking in front of you jamie there was no way that saquon was A good player is there. My gamble was bad. Yeah. mcbride was available at 26 i don't think it was that bad and well i mean if i think bowers and mcbride are close and so to take mcbride take bowers one full round ahead mcbride didn't work out but you got drake london in round three and i know it's half ppr not full ppr but getting london at 26 overall i think is a good value for sure and and so again you're trying to make yourself stand out in a shallower talent pool yeah my pass catchers should be the best on the league kyron or someone asking the chat we'll take a break after this kyron over drake london that's don't like it even in half ppr right yeah no all right i'll pause i don't like it in non ppr i'll pause the draft after round three round three so far as pickens neighbors barkley kyron williams davante smith drake london i mean there's been some some kind of wacky things here like nico there's still a great wide receiver on the board he might have just gone now to the slush puppies he did chris olave but a lave lave's been moving up for me james cook ken walker chris olave for team that's beautiful see mcafree aj brown for team nine they're on the clock here and team nine has mcafree aj brown and littering and t higgins and then team 12 or team 10 which took henry and chase brown at the one-two turn is gonna have i mean they could they could try to go elite and go boy they they really got pinched at receiver no there's still good players who's who's the best receiver left on your board mcconkey okay you go mcconkey's a flowers that's a great start yeah or okay i like waddle and garrett wilson but i'd go that would have been a great spot for them to go i mean i can't really doubt them on henry and chase brown as their first two picks but if they had gotten lamb instead of one of those running backs boy they've got a lot of good running backs left he took a lot of flowers yeah because genti is there right so like sure you could take genti now right 30 is still there he took flowers jeremiah love is still there i'm gonna i'm gonna pause the draft we're gonna take a break and talk about i mean it's to go henry chase brown zay flowers lad mcconkey which is possible or or waddle or whatever that to me is like a good a good team at the 12 spot in a 12 team league i think maybe i'd be a little disappointed at the 10 spot in a 10 team league but you do have ashton genti any of colson loveland on the board and i think those guys have to come into play right now in this in this 10 team league even though we're only at pick 31 right now right that's can you start three running backs you can start four running backs you get two fun genti is in play for this pick then all right we're gonna take a break and come back and see how this plays out here um kind of an unpredictable draft man like just it's been fun yeah it has been fun this is the and this is how drafts are man adam you know it as well as i do home leagues everybody drafting with their buddies in a basement or at a bar this is this 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we thought maybe a little early for kyron williams but when you've got two two wide receivers and puka and lamb i would have gone mcbride there yeah or olave or i would have gone london and just you can start four in this league right you can start four wide receivers so don't like don't that's a good lesson here don't take a position if that play now look maybe he just loves kyron williams but if that play that player is worse than the other players on the board you know you don't have to chase right don't chase unless it's jamar or brown good way to put it jamar uh team five jonathan taylor omari and hampton davante smith team six is jamie saint brown brock bowers drake london uh team seven jsn devon achan trey mcbride team eight james cook kenneth walker chris olave team nine mcafree aj brown t higgins team 10 derrick henry chase brown zay flowers and we resume the draft ashton genti colston loveland giovante williams lad mcconkey garrett wilson jaylen waddle these are options here for the team that has derrick henry chase brown and zay flowers and this is uh jj on the clock i want to thank jay brown and jay flowers for the team that has jay brown and jay flowers and this is jj thomas jonathan matt jamie something um steven chris clinton link dan and michael and who did he say he took genti genti 31 you guys like gent 31 yeah that's right around the range what i would take him i don't mind if he had gone with giovante williams there either but i felt like the value at running back was too good to pass up so where do you take mike washington there we go oh you're on the clock no no jacobs is gone jacobs 33rd overall round four that feels a little too soon could be the best value of the draft by the time we look back on it yeah and that team has james cook kenneth walker chris olavi and josh jacobs i would not be taking that risk with that position right now right why wouldn't you rather take loveland loveland would have been perfect for that team given what they have already with two running backs and one wide receiver he could have also take he could have taken josh allen this is round four this is a good time to steal a quarterback which i think jamie's about to do let me ask you a question receivers left for like garrett wilson jalen waddle not as exciting as some of those other running backs all right round four is genti mcconkie jacobs and jordan and uh jeremiah love all right jamie you had saint brown bowers in london and you took josh allen be elite yeah i like it all right so that was what 35 overall so now you have number your number one quarterback your number one tight end i'm on ross saint brown and drake london notably you do not have any running backs you're notably your next super curious to see how that goes for Jamie too because there are four teams picking after him and then before him in round five that only have one running back and the team picking right after him that is two running backs just took a third and so knowing that you can start up to four running backs in this league do we continue to see a running back run in round four that costs Jamie the chance of getting even a decent running back in round five by the like with Jamie's build I'm sorry Adam with Jamie's build this is exactly where I would try and target Jacobs in round five obviously he's gone he can't do it now but if you've loaded up and gone zero rb getting Jacobs in round five and then planning to pair him with Lloyd to me that's just that that's a smart way to build a team you're guaranteed a Packers running back that should at least be a number two running back and then you've got studs at wide receiver tight end a quarterback I think it's really interesting to see the three running backs taken at the beginning of the season and then you've got studs at wide receiver tight end at the beginning of this round gentee Jacobs love right I mean what a risky group that is how do you guys rank gentee Jacobs love uh I mean Jacobs is out of the equation right now so it would be uh gentee love but I like Gervonta who just went Swift who went and a chant uh uh Travis a chance to on the board yeah all right so round four right now picks 31 through 40. gentee McConkey Jacobs love right now picks 31 through 40. so team three Chase Nico Collins Saquon Barkley Colson Loveland that's pretty good it's great Javante Williams after that and Brees Hall goes 40th overall so team one is on the clock with two running backs and two receivers remember you start two running backs two receivers and two flex um I you know I wouldn't be opposed to a Lamar Jackson reach here because I don't think you're getting Lamar Jackson at 60 let's see where what when Lamar Jackson comes off the board but so far Mike's team at team one is Gibbs Rishi Rice Pickens and Brees Hall you're not probably not looking at a tight end here and he took a wide receiver named DJ Moore DJ Moore okay still have Waddle on the board still Garrett Wilson on the board as we're on pick 42 here's another team with two running backs and two receivers Bijan Robinson Justin Jefferson Malik neighbors Javante Williams and Luther Burden 43 who do you guys like better DJ Moore or Luther Burden more uh I've got more higher I said 43 I'm in 42 here's Travis HN dude like CJ is getting some serious value at running back yes Barkley at 23 and HN Travis 43 great team yeah this is a great one here this is Chase Nico Barkley Loveland and Travis HN um team four is Puka Lam Kyron Williams and a Buka Puka and a Buka I love it and now we have a team that's getting some serious value now a wide receiver another wide receiver four wide receivers with his first five picks he can start all of them and it's Jalen Waddle so who the pretty good would you have taken your fourth wide receiver there would you have taken like Bucky Irving or Lamar Jackson or you know a different the wide receiver yep if you would but I would have taken Javante over a Buka in a heartbeat in round four and then he'd have both the Williams's Kyron and Javante comes back around I think if he would have taken the wide receiver that would be the start that I would have preferred I would have preferred if he'd taken Drake London or Alave and then come back and take the running back in round four see this is more of a you know an overall question right so this is a team two receivers two running back two flex when he starts Puka Lam Kyron a Buka and now he's got the 44th overall pick and he can certainly draft the wide receiver and he did and he took Waddle I think I would have been I would have taken Bucky there I don't I don't like Waddle necessarily a lot I that you can start Waddle here but at some point you got to start thinking about your running back room no you don't I yeah I disagree you do why why don't you better players Waddle take the better player is he the better player I don't think in this case he is because you only need to start two running backs and you've got two flex spots you need those flex spots to be as strong as you can yeah but here's the thing right now you only need to start two running backs that is absolutely true there are injuries there are bye weeks you don't want to be left there are more picks in the draft right all right it's a 10 team league Adam but who's gonna all right who's gonna be there at 57 with his next pick I don't know not Bucky Irving either probably not but then he can that could be Jadarian Price that could be Basil Tootin they're not that far off from yes all right Jamie's on the clock uh the next pick was Sam Laporta to uh team five that has Taylor Hampton Devante Smith DeAndre Swift Devante Smith DeAndre Swift and Sam Laporta no you pick too fast I'm on Ross St. Brown for Jamie in round one Brock Bowers Drake London Josh Allen he's got number he's got number one quarterback number one tight end and now he's on the clock with no running backs I think I think Jamie's got a chance to keep doing the zero RB thing there's a receiver left on the board that I think is a screaming value at 46th overall when you look at Garrett Wilson Dave that's who it is let's see if he takes him yeah he did okay excellent how worried in a half PPR league when you look at Garrett Wilson are you worried about touchdowns because you can see catches being there but are you worried about touchdowns of course I'm worried about touchdowns it doesn't matter what the format is for Garrett Wilson either and I don't love that last year in seven games 11.6 half PPR points per game six games uh well what he left one game he played like 16 snaps in them all right so if we azer stat that game out it's even better than 11.6 which is fine because I was about to say I think he can be better than 11.6 half PPR points per game and this range in the draft I think when you get somebody let's call it 12 and I feel like we're sort of low balling him by saying he's 12 half PPR points per game that's great in round five especially late round five and Jamie already hinted at it the drop off between Bucky Irving to all the other running backs that are still on the board isn't that bad and so many of the teams picking after Jamie have multiple running backs already two of them have three running backs maybe they go four running backs but I would take that risk if I were Jamie and take the best player available which is Garrett Wilson again pointing back to what we talked about at the beginning and Jamie said at first you're building an all-star team in a 10-team league everybody's going to have one you want to build the best one and I think Jamie's got arguably the three best receivers that you could ask for here on top of Bowers and Josh Allen yeah all right uh so Jamie takes Garrett Wilson 46th overall then Teterola McMillan goes then Jamison Williams goes Bucky Irving goes 49th Terry McLaurin goes 49th and then Jamie's got the three best receivers that are available for Jamie on Jamie's list are Devante Adams Parker Washington Romo Dunze Christian Watson best running backs available um are Judkins Scadaboo Montgomery Jadarian Price and Basil Tootin and you get into the Patriots guys we only have one quarterback off the board after 50 picks that's another surprise I wouldn't expect that in a regular 10-team league we also had Laporte go ahead of Tyler Warren Tyler Warren's still around yeah that's also a surprise for me and all right so team 12 Henry Chase Brown Zay Flowers Ashton Gentry Teterola or Terry McLaurin pardon me and Mike Evans 51st a little earlier than probably you guys would want to see Evans there's Devante Adams not sure I can just I mean I don't know how you take Evans over Adams at this point no I don't think you can especially not in half PPR yep yeah excellent point although I but it's going to be plenty of running backs left yep if you want to take one yeah I'm going to double up on quarterback and take Lamar Jackson I wonder if this had been a one flex league if more running backs would have come off the board people are going pretty wide receiver heavy here I don't know running backs flew off the board pretty quickly no at this point in the draft though like right now we've only had two running backs in the last 16 picks now three um so Evans Adams Watson are the first three picks of round six and now here's quinch on Judkins and Jamie's on the clock with Josh Allen Brock Bowers I'm on Ross St. Brown Drake London Garrett Wilson and who'd you take scataboo boo that's a scataboo not a boo how do you feel about that I was hoping for Judkins but you know what I'm fine with it you know at this point in the draft like I'm just going to start stockpiling running backs at this point so it's uh you know either death by a thousand what paper cuts yeah or uh we'll see how it all works out okay so Evans Adams Watson then Judkins and scataboo then Parker Washington like we might be running away from scataboo too much but in round five in this draft I think it's fine well this is round six round six is better yeah 55th overall Judarian price goes 57th overall yep and this is an example of what a 10 team draft does is it pushes players down in a 12 team league I don't know if Judkins and scataboo make it this far but we've got two fewer teams making picks and so there's incredible value here I mean here's one of my favorite picks I think it's going to be one of my favorite picks of the draft yeah this is one of them Lamar Jackson 58th what have I been talking about all off season long the time to draft a quarterback is when you can't believe the value of somebody that's there and CJ clearly saw Lamar Jackson in late round six knowing that everybody else other than Jamie needed a quarterback and went I can't believe this dude is still here I'm taking him that's the way to go about drafting a quarterback this year Jamie question for you uh you took scataboo and then Judarian price and then Basil Tootin went shortly thereafter yesterday we had a really I thought a really good informative conversation at least for me about why Judarian price why Basil Tootin and has more roadblocks than Jadarian Price. Who do you think has more roadblocks, Jadarian Price or Cam Scadaboo? I think by everything we've seen right now, it's probably Scadaboo. But there's still, as I asked both of you guys yesterday, if we know the Zach Charbonnet timeline, that changes everything. Yeah. I like this pick at the 6-7 turn, Joe Burrow and Tyler Warren. Third quarterback off the board and the fifth tight end off the board. You know, Warren going 61st is unusual. Laporta went 45th. So if that had been Laporta instead of Warren, would that have been a good pick for Team 1? Yeah. Okay. But I would have rather had May than Burrow. Okay. Fair enough. Team 1 has Burrow and Warren, Jameer Gibbs and Brees Hall, Rasheed Rice, George Pickens, and DJ Moore. Strong team. If you don't have a strong, strong team through the first six or seven rounds of a 10-team league, then you either just didn't get any good value or you made some mistakes. I like 10-team leagues. I wouldn't want to play in too many of them, but they're fun. They're fun. Yeah, they're fun. They are fun. Well, every fantasy league is fun. No, but this is on a different level. Yes, of course. When I was in Vegas at the Fantasy Football National Draft Day, there was a league drafting five-team league. That was silly. That was silly. Well, I think I'm going to be. For grownups, yeah. I'm going to be in a six-team league with the father and son league. Yeah, nice. You doing your first one? Yeah, yeah. That's awesome. I'm pumped. All right, back to the draft. Round six was Evans, Adams, Watson, Judkins, Skadaboo, Parker Washington, Jadarian Price, Lamar Jackson, Basil Tootin, and Joe Burrow. Quarterback's starting to come off the board now as we go to round seven. Tyler Warren is tight end five, 61st overall. Chris Godwin, Romo Dunze. Who do you guys like better, Godwin or Odunze? Godwin. Odunze. Drake May after that. Then Jordan Mason, 65th. That's ahead of David Montgomery. That feels early there. That worked out very well for me. Oh, you got Montgomery. It absolutely did. And if Montgomery had been taken where Jordan Mason was taken, who would you have taken as RB2 or would you have kept passing? Ramondre. Ramondre, okay. Marvin Harrison Jr. was after that. And then Ramondre Stevenson to team eight, 68th overall, going ahead of Travion Henderson. Travion Henderson, by the way, expected to be ready for week one. Our next pick is J.K. Dobbins. And then pick 70, the end of round seven here, for a team with three receivers and three running backs. Let's see if he goes Jaden Daniels. Probably not going to take a tight end at this point, but maybe. I want to make a point about the running back position here. Because I talked about on Monday, or Tuesday, I think, that I took Jordan Mason 80th overall in the FFT Open. And we were like, oh, that seems kind of early. So then I went and I looked at where Jordan, I went and looked at eight different FFT Open leagues. And I looked at where Jordan Mason, Ja'Cory Krosky-Merritt, and J.K. Dobbins were being drafted. And my advice to everyone out there is to ignore ADP because they're going to go earlier. Jordan Mason went between 77th and 85th in six of the eight drafts. Ja'Cory Krosky-Merritt went around 90th in six of the eight drafts. J.K. Dobbins had more of a range. 81st, 91st, 80, 74, 83rd, 82nd, 95th, 96th. So I would say between 80 and 95, I would expect Mason, Ja'Cory Krosky-Merritt, and J.K. Dobbins to be off the board in your drafts. Obviously, it's not going to happen in every draft. But after that, you're looking at Gainwell and Corum, guys that don't have as clear of paths to being drafted. They're not going to be a starter on their own team. And I think this is really an important thing to know going into your draft, Dave. I mean, you could look at them differently than I do, but I look at Mason, Bill, and Dobbins as three of the last chances to get a guy that I feel pretty good about their workload. I have some questions about Dobbins, but that's more of a personal thing here. Well, he'll be the first guy up for Denver. They're not going to be around at pick 100, I think, in most leagues. So just be aware of it. But, man, this draft really turned out great for Jamie. He took Jonathan Brooks. Yeah. So after starting without a running back for the first five rounds, he got a potential hammer in the Giants' run-heavy offense in Scadaboo, the definite hammer for the Texans' offense in Montgomery, and potentially the 1A back in Carolina and Brooks. And I've cooled my jets on Jonathan Brooks, but getting him at 75th overall is a pretty good deal as a third running back. This is the way to do it. And this has kind of opened my eyes to maybe considering zero RB more in a smaller format like this. Yeah. Really, you just go best player available in a smaller format, right? I mean, you don't have to say, I'm going zero RB. No, I mean, for this to work out, it's not so much anything else besides the tight end and the quarterback. If they are what they're supposed to be, then I should be fine. Because I'll find quarterbacks, I mean, I'll find running backs and receivers if I have to pay them replacements because the benches are going to, the waiver wire is going to go down. It's going to be a lot better than this. Sure. That's another great point. Yeah. I think probably in retrospect, though, you would like your team better if you had Hampton and McBride rather than Bowers and London. Yes. It was definitely a gamble and it did not work in my favor. All right. We got to take a break here and we'll come right back after this on Fantasy Football today. If I got an alert every single time my teen used their debit card, it would be for $5 iced coffees before school every single morning. 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See terms and conditions for the Sutton Prepaid Card, Sutton Debit Flex Card, and Bancorp Debit Flex Card. Savings provided by Cash App, A Block Incorporated brand. Visit cash.app.com for all full disclosures. We are. Oh, we're right. We're right into round nine. So we're pick 81 now. And I am curious. All right. The Josh Jacobs manager has pick 88. I really think you got to take Lloyd there. But we'll see where Lloyd comes off the board. This is why you should have taken him in round eight instead of Carnell Tate. Already had three wide receivers. Tate's his fourth receiver. I would have absolutely gone in the direction of Lloyd there. If not one of Brooks, maybe Travion, maybe Dowdle. And it's specific. It's not about like the right spot in the draft to take Lloyd. It's just specific to the guy took Jacobs. The guy kind of reached for Jacobs with the 33rd overall pick. I think you got to safeguard it. I know that's kind of a loser mentality and fantasy. But in this case, I think it would pay off because of how the track record is for running backs in Green Bay. Yeah, this has been a fun draft because there's just been a lot of picks going way off of the. You know, ADP, like Jaden Reed 76th and Brian Thomas Jr. 83rd. I wonder if the manager who took Jaden Reed and just selected Jalen Hurts in round nine, if he would have taken Brian Thomas Jr. Had he not already had Parker Washington, but also Quentin Johnson was on the board. Dejohn Stripling, I think, is still on the board. So this is the earliest I've seen Jaden Reed go at 76th overall. Christian Watson went 53rd. Jamie just took his fourth straight running back in Jalen Warren. Well, now you only have two wide receivers. Three. You have three. Oh, I have to scroll up. Right. You have St. Brown. My bad. You have St. Brown, London, Garrett Wilson, Scadaboo, Montgomery, Jonathan Brooks, and Jalen Warren. In this format, Jamie, Rico Dowdle went 77th, Warren 86th, half PPR. Who do you like better? I like Dowdle better, but this is still a good value for Warren. Yeah. RJ Harvey went 80th, Blake Corum 84th. So I will tell you where I did struggle the round before, just because he didn't get picked at that point. I did struggle with. Brian Thomas Jr. versus Jonathan Brooks. Simply because I could start Thomas. Yeah. And I don't know if I necessarily want to start Brooks. If you had known that you were getting Jalen Warren in round nine. I would have taken Thomas. Yeah. But you never know. Wow. Picking in the middle is tough in that regard. All right. So I'll catch you up on rounds eight and nine. George Kittle, Tucker Kraft, by the way, the Dave Jonu Smith signing with the Packers. Does that matter at all? I don't think it does. I think Kraft just has his role locked in. Unless we hear about a setback, I'm good with Kraft in round six. Okay. Kraft in a 12-team league. He went in round eight here. Right. And which would be the last pick of round six in a 12-team league? Kittle over Kraft, though. What do you think? Don't like it. Would rather have Kraft. Kittle, Kraft, Tate, Travion Henderson, Jonathan Brooks, Jaden Reed, Rico Dowdle, Tony Pollard, Quentin Johnston, RJ Harvey. In round eight, pick 71 through 80. Round nine, Cortland Sutton, Jaden, Daniels um Brian Thomas Jr., Blake Corum, Jalen Hurts, Jalen Warren, DK Metcalf, Stefan Diggs, Ja'Cory Krosky-Merritt going 89th. So again, that's Mason and Ja'Cory Krosky-Merritt and Dobbins all off the board by the 90th pick, with Mason and Dobbins going 65th and 69th. When you look at Ja'Cory Krosky-Merritt, should he go ahead of the Steelers guys? Should he go ahead of Corum, RJ Harvey? Jamie, what do you think? He'd definitely make an argument for it, given his touchdown potential and where catches don't count as much in this league, in this format. But for me, just with the ambiguous situation in Pittsburgh, Warren could still be fantastic and be better than Dowdle. I cannot believe that this guy had two chances to take Marshawn Lloyd. Well, really just one, that he didn't take Marshawn Lloyd. No, he had two. He could have taken him over Tate if he really wanted to, but just getting another crack at him at 88th overall, eighth pick around nine, could have had Marshawn Lloyd, and instead he took Stefan Diggs when he already has how many receivers on his team? Olave, Jamison Williams, Christian Watson, Carnell Tate. Okay. So you're drafting a backup either way at running back or wide receiver. Why not take the guy who's connected to one of the running backs that you took earlier instead of Stefan Diggs? It's mystifying. The only thing I can think of is that slush puppies subscribes to the theory that it's not necessary to handcuff your backs, no matter the circumstance. And there are people that believe in that. And I generally believe in that. I want other people's handcuffs. And so does Optimus Prime, because he just took Marshawn Lloyd one pick ahead of where slush puppies was going to take him. And that was 92nd overall. Slush puppies. How many teams fit this description? Slush puppies, sorry, through 10 rounds does not have a quarterback or a tight end. So same with Optimus Prime. Those teams are picking, uh, uh, what is that? Eighth and ninth overall. They do not have a quarterback or a tight end. I think that's it. Yeah. So they have gone nothing but running backs and receivers with their first. Oh, I'm sorry. Optimus Prime is Tucker craft, but they don't have a quarterback. Yeah. So slush puppies is the last team to take the onesie positions. He, he is 10. Let's see. He has five, four running backs and six wide receivers. James Cook, Kenneth Walker, Chris Olave, Josh. Jacobs, Jamison Williams, Christian Watson, Ramond, Ray Stevenson, Cornell Tate, Stefan Diggs, and Dijon stripling, stripling. I don't really love this team. Um, I love the running backs and, uh, level Lave. Yeah. I don't know. I think he went a little too far with the receivers. Like a lot. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, Jamison Williams, who would you have taken instead of Jamison Williams? McLaurin. McLaurin, Evans, Adams, Watson. Who'd you have taken? Yes. All of them. Okay. Not Evan. Would you have taken anyone over Christian Watson in round six? Parker Washington. Oh, doing say there. I don't know. I think it's the Carnell Tate and Stefan Diggs picks. Right. Yeah. I mean, you might be able to talk me into Tate, but I also think Tate might've made it back to you in the next round. You cannot talk me into Diggs or stripling. At that point, uh, digs ahead of Ja'Cory crossing merit digs ahead of Marshawn Lloyd, maybe even digs ahead of Kenneth Gainwell and a half PPR as my, I can't find it as your fifth wide receiver and then stripling is your sixth. Oh, Jamie, you took Mike Washington. Yes. Okay. I was like, has Mike Washington gone? So Jamie's Jamie's team. I wasn't planning on taking another running back there, but I just felt like it was worth it. Yeah. St. Brown Bowers, Drake, London, Josh Allen, Garrett Wilson with his first five picks. And then his next five picks were running. Backs, Scadaboo, Montgomery, Jonathan Brooks, Jalen Warren, Mike Washington. All right. Um, after Mike Washington at running back, we had Gainwell and we had Chuba Hubbard at picks 99 and 100 overall. Jamie has a steel coming his way. It's definitely going to be there at receiver tight end. He already has Bowers though. Oh, that's right. Nevermind. I'm sorry. I didn't see the top of his draft. I forgot that he had Bowers cause I'm an idiot, but still a great tight end is, has fallen into around 11. You know what I'm a good value. I'm going to, I'm going to turn on YouTube here and see what it looks like. And then I'm going to see if I can make the zoom, zoom out a little, like make it smaller. All right. So let's see. Is that too small? No. Yeah. I think it works. Might be tough to see on a phone, but I'm watching the draft on a, on a big screen in my office and it looks really good. Well, you're cheating with the big screen. Let me see what it looks like on my left. You're cheating with the laptop with YouTube here. I don't want to make, I want to make sure everyone can see. Well, I'm sure there are people watching on their phones live. Say something in the chat. It's too small. Let's go up to 90. We'll compromise. All right. Um, what picks have I missed after Chuba Hubbard? Some of the tight ends are coming off the board. Fannin went around 10 pits, went around 10 Goddard, went around 11. We still don't have Isaiah likely off the board, right? Or Kelsey. They're still around to steal for pits. So steal for pits likely is still a big steal. Likely is the highest rank player left that I see along with Justin Herbert. And I think slush puppies, the team that I said, I didn't really like that much. It's going to end up with Trevor Lawrence and maybe Isaiah. Yeah, that's, and that'll make it better. That's very good. Very good. I just wish you had March on Lloyd, my friend, my Josh Jacobs friend. Um, I don't know that we need to really go through the rest of these picks. If you want to talk about some bills. Maybe Travis Kelsey goes, yeah, some teams, some teams will take two tight ends and it will screw you up. So you can't, and it's where it makes sense because Kittle isn't a lock to play in week one. Yep. So you're going to need another tight end. Anyway, you might as well draft one. See, I would have taken likely there instead of Kelsey because likely might end up being a breakout player that you can trade once you're comfortable with Kittle or if likely is a real breakup player, you trade Kittle, but you need somebody for week one, at least as of now, if you draft Kittle. So getting Kelsey makes sense in that regard, but I would have, I would have preferred the younger, um, the younger tight end and, and likely I think you, if you don't want, if you take Kittle and you don't want to take, you know, a second tight end fairly early, you could just take Jake Tongis. He was pretty good. Um, and I don't even know if you have to take them. You might, but well, if we find out Kittle's out, somebody will pick him up. I think, um, we got round 11, Michael Pittman. Oh, you got to play the noise. You got Aaron Jones. The show stops. So Adam can play a noise and let's see who's slush puppy takes. He had Trevor Lawrence as his quarterback in round 11. He doesn't have a tight end. You got to take Isaiah likely. Come on, dude. Take Isaiah likely. Make us proud. The pick is in. It is not. I say it is Rashad white. Um, all right, Jamie, what are you thinking here? You've got elite quarterback, elite tight end. You're just draft in depth at this point. What do you got? Yeah, I'm, I'm happy the way this worked out. I was considering Coker over golden. I haven't taken much of golden. So it's a golden first and now I took Coker. So, uh, really thrilled with this receiving core after loading up on all those running backs and well, you have one more round of this, uh, two more, two more. So, you know, now I have love my receivers, obviously love quarterback and tight end and have the ability to take another couple of swings that lottery ticket running backs. Before we look at some builds here and what we like to do. What we like and what we don't like. Let me ask you this in this round, round 12, you said builds or like bills, bills. I don't want to look at my bills. I must say with Corey Krosky, Mary, like, I don't know how you guys feel, but I'm very nervous about the offensive line for him in particular, right? You've, you've lost your left tackle maybe for the season and you've moved one of your guards out to left tackle. Like it's, it's, I believe just, just, you're not wrong, but I believe the report that we read yesterday about how they struggle with the Ravens. They also had two other starters that were not participating. Right. Right. Allegretti was out and then there was another player. I believe he was out. Um, yeah. It's still not going to be great. Exactly. Even when those guys are healthy. Now, Aaron Jones and Chris Rodriguez went in round 12. Jordan Mason went in round seven and Basil Tootin went in round six. What, Dave, what are the better values in the Minnesota and Jacksonville backfield? I think Tootin's the one that has the most upside and seeing him go in round six, 59th overall, that's about where I'd expect him to go in every draft anyways, right around 60th overall. I just think that he's got that combination of speed, toughness, youth, offensive scheme. I think it, I think there's a great outlook for him. I'd feel a heck of a lot better about Mason if Aaron Jones was going to look like a third 33 year old. I think he's 33, a 33 year old running back. I love the way that Jones looked in their preseason game. I also like the way their offensive line looked. And I know that running backs that play alongside Kyler Murray get a little bit of a bump in efficiency because of Kyler Murray's threat to run and defense is having to, uh, to plan for that. If Mason's going later, where did he go here? I'm struggling to find him. He went pretty early. I mean, he's 65th is not, he's usually the value here is definitely Aaron Jones. Mason went too soon. You know, so if you're talking about. In this particular draft, I would rather wait to get Aaron Jones where he went because exactly what Dave said, what they've been saying and what they at least showed us in one snippet says that Aaron Jones is not just going to be a pass catching back. He's going to have an opportunity to run. I don't think 50, 50, but could be still 60, 40. And the passing downs work is 1 billion percent going to favor Aaron Jones. So if you're talking about a, you said around 11, a five round difference, I'd rather wait for Aaron Jones. I think it's a fair enough difference that you, you take tootin because there's more upside there. There's definitely more upside, but the problem is, you know, Rodriguez is going to play maybe the goal line back and yeah, Mason, like I keep saying Mason Dobbins and, and there's a lot of risk with those guys. If the pre-season, if the snaps play out the way the pre-season has played out for Minnesota, I think Mason's going to be pretty disappointing. Unless he's just the goal line back that we didn't see. We didn't see any opportunities there, but there is though the, you know, Dave sort of hinted at this thing, 13 PPR points per game is what Jones is what Mason averaged when Jones missed five games last year. Like that puts him in top 20 ish range. Yeah. Jones isn't, isn't injured, but he's been, he played injured his first year in Minnesota through some significant injuries and then he missed five games last year. Yeah, he did. And he's only 31, by the way, he'll be 32 in December. So don't, don't throw a retirement party for him yet, Dave. All right. Let's see. Am I, am I missing like, am I colorblind here? Slush puppy still does not have a tight end. Nope. He's got one pick, one pick left. So I'm real curious to see who he takes. My highest ranked tight end is Kincaid. So see, that's why you don't want, this is what you do not want to have happen in a 10 team league. Yeah. Right. You can be this week at one spot. You can live with Lawrence as your quarterback. That is perfectly fine. Right. So he had the opportunity to take who? Everyone likely, likely at, at 113. Right. So he could have gone Lawrence likely back to back and that would have made his team pretty solid. Yep. And should have, but he had to have Rashad white. And he had to have Stefan digs. You got to get those commanders. All right. Let's take a look at some builds. Dave, give me a number one through 10. A nine because I, I, I actually dig what Optimus prime did. He's he went anchor RB took McCaffrey at ninth overall. That's something I could see myself doing and then followed it up with three very good wide receivers, AJ Brown, T Higgins, Ladd McConkey. And then in round five, Bucky Irving, maybe a settle for RB too, but you could be excited taking him around that point. Devante Adams after that, I thought was good value and a half PPR. I think he reached a little bit for JK Dobbins. I'm a, I'm okay with your Corey Krosky merit. There's nothing wrong with firing the shot on Marshawn line around 10, no matter who you drafted in your first nine picks. And then he waited, waited, waited for a quarterback. And he got one of my favorite quarterbacks and Justin Herbert, and he got him at 129th overall yet. Another example of, I can't believe this dude is still sitting here in the draft. I'm going to take them. Excellent, excellent value. Maybe the best value in this draft to get Justin Herbert at one 29. This is a good team. I'm I would be excited about this team with Optimus prime loading up, one running back. So if something does happen to Christian McCaffrey, okay, he's got some options. They're not the best options to replace them. If it's JK Dobbins, your Corey Krosky merit Lloyd, if things work out in green Bay, but the receiving group is, is, is awesome. Tucker craft was a steel at 8.2. This and, and Herbert, a quarterback, this might be my favorite team. I haven't looked at every single team, but this is one of them. Yeah, it's a good one. And I think it's interesting, right? Because Jamie made the point in rounds two and four to take his tight end one and his QB, one, and he came out with a really good team. It's a perfectly fine way to, to build a team, try to be a lead at those onesie positions. Whereas this team, team nine took Tucker craft 72nd overall in round eight and took Justin Herbert, 129th overall in round 13. And then after Herbert, when he still could have taken Brock Purdy or Jackson dart, I don't even know if Jared golf was drafted in this, in this league. So yeah, you don't have to, you, you don't have to build your team like Jamie to, to get, to get the elite quarterback and the elite tight end. If the value's not there, you know, and it really wasn't there for him, at least at, at tight end, unless he wanted to take Loveland 32nd overall, which he didn't. All right, Jamie, give me a number one through 10. Two. Team two, Bijan Robinson. All right. So this is a great one. He's even in a 10 team league. You take Bijan Robinson. You're probably not getting a running back in rounds two and three. You're probably not taking one. Now I think you should have taken Saquon Barkley, but Saquon Barkley typically won't be there at night. 19th overall, but maybe, yeah, maybe one of those guys will fall there. Anyway, he goes Bijan Robinson, Justin Jefferson, and then Malik neighbors in round three. I think we all would take Saquon Barkley well ahead of Malik neighbors, especially half PPR, but whatever. And then we got Javante Williams in round four. That's a good pick. 39th overall Luther burden, Bejel, Tootin, Chris Godwin, Quentin Johnston. This is another team that didn't take a, took a quarterback in round nine and took two tight ends in rounds 11 and 12. So the starting line, the starting line up is going to be Jaden Daniels. It's going to be Dallas Goddard or Isaiah likely at tight end. Bijan Robinson, Javante Williams, Justin Jefferson, Malik neighbors. And then your flexes are going to be two of these four Luther burden, Bejel, Tootin, Chris Godwin, Quentin Johnston. It's pretty good. A lot of LSU on this team. Obviously Quentin Johnston, 65 yard touchdown catch yesterday. So let's put them three rounds higher in ADP. I think this was a great pick at 79 overall. He went after Karnel Tate. He went after Jaden Reed. I don't know how you guys feel about Quentin Johnston there. It's just the Brian Thomas one. Like I think Thomas still has more upside. I agree. I would have rather had Thomas. I would have rather had Sutton. Also this team drafted Bigsby to back up bar. Oh, to back up the Barkley pick that he never made. I'm sorry, but that's an example of taking other people's handcuffs. Yeah. Imagine it working out where Saquon wins. Powerball decides to retire. Bigsby, the next man up in Philadelphia. Now he's got the lead running back in Philly, the lead running back in Atlanta, the lead running back in Dallas, and maybe the lead running back in Jacksonville. This is why you go after, you almost want to get the backup running backs in, in the best situations where if they do get that opportunity and think about corn with the Rams, certainly in that same vein, when they get that same, when they get that opportunity, if they get that opportunity, oh man, you're, you're going to have a must start running back. I want to talk about team. My, my, my 14 year old son, who's a freshman in high school is taking a sports management class, which is basically all they do is they just had their fantasy draft in their class. And that's all they're talking about right now. So he's getting trade offers left and right. And he just keeps texting me about trade offers. Are any of them good? Or are they all like somebody offered him a pile of poo for Jameer Gibbs? No, he's gotten pretty good offer so far. This one, I think he's going to actually take, it's one of those, like they're kids, you know? So he's like, they make the offer, then they rescind it like three seconds later. Um, so, Oh yeah. Only kids do that. He got offered, uh, Deandre Swift for Quinn, Sean Judkins. I told him to accept it. Yeah. That's an accept. Yeah. Nice job, bro. Um, what'd it be bad if he was texting like me or Dave or Heath instead of you? That'd be bad. It reminds me of the story. Cause you know, it should be asking you, have I told the story on air about when my son wasn't sure to draft Pooka Nakua? He's literally having lunch in the building with me. And he goes, I don't know. I, do I take Pooka Nakua? I think it was two years ago when he was a little banged up and I was like, yeah. And he goes, let me see where Jamie has him. And then he saw that Jamie had him right. Just like I did. And he goes, well, let me see how Heath has him right. And I think Heath was a little different. Maybe it was a little bit lower on Nakua. He ultimately took Nakua. He listened to his dad. Love it. Or not listen to Jamie. All right. Last Jamie. Yeah. This is why people have, um, the opportunity to see all three of our rankings. Yep. Yeah. All right. Last, uh, team, his team seven picked after Jamie. I'm just glad he used one of our rankings. It would have put a knife through my heart. If it took somebody else's, uh, can you, can you put up the question from, uh, the Homer Simpson person? Isn't Stevenson going before Henderson right now? He should. Yeah. It, I think it depends on your line of things. So I just give you what I was looking at. Um, where I took Brooks, I would have taken Henderson, even though I have Brooks ranked higher because, and this is not a, a Stevenson thing, but it kind of factors in Stevenson because I have Stevenson ranked higher. The way I built this team, like I need a superstar and Henderson has that ability. So like, I like your, your analogy to all this Adam is to me, makes the most sense about how you compare Henderson and quorum, like getting quorum around or two later. There's very similar ranges of outcomes for both those guys. I feel like it's more like three rounds later, honestly. Well, whatever the ADP settles that I, I think quorum is going to kind of hold steady. And I think, all the Henderson stuff, especially since he's a little bit banged up, we'll drop them potentially around. I hope it's around. Um, but I think if you, if you want the safer play, it's obviously Stevenson. If you want the guy who can start for you right now, it's Stevenson. If your build is, I have my two running backs. I love everything else about my team receivers, whatever, however you started your roster, zero RB, here are be whatever, uh, or just even just taking two running backs and then loading up a receivers quarterback and tight end. The, the upside play is, is Henderson. We're all aware of that. Nobody's going to argue, against that because we saw what Henderson did when Stevenson's not there. It's just, you can't go into the season counting on Henderson to be a, starter for you right away. So for me, knowing it's a 10-team league, Jonathan Brooks right now is my flex. I can find a flex that's going to give me Jonathan Brooks-like production, unless he's just an absolute stud, which he could be. But the way that I built this roster, Henderson, if he hits, I was also looking at quorum. He went, I think, one or two spots before me. Those are the type of players that are going to make this build perfect. I guess I agree with you, but we saw what Travion Henderson can do without Ramondre Stevenson last year, and it was amazing. We didn't see what Ramondre can do without Travion Henderson. I don't think it could be quite as amazing because he's not as- But you've also seen- Well, what about those last three games of last year? But you've seen what Stevenson could do when Henderson wasn't even on the team. I get a different team. Drake May, I get all those things. Yes, it is. It is a much different team, and I don't think he can be as good as Travion Henderson, but he's probably a must-start because he's probably scoring. He was better in those. Yeah, totally, totally. You're 100% right, but I think, yes, there's no way to dispute that. Brooks has that same type of upside, too, does he not? I get where you're coming from. I totally understand it. I think Brooks has upside. Chuba's already dealing with an injury. If Brooks is the week one starter and he's getting a lot of work in Carolina, yeah, there's injury risk, but at least he looks like he knows what he's doing out there. We don't know if he's going to be able to do that. If Travion does, he's got upside, too. I don't think you should feel all doom and gloom because you missed out on Travion because you got Jonathan Brooks. Corum versus Warren, to me, that's the better example. Jalen Warren, yeah, he definitely is going to need Rico Dowdle to go away for him to really match his ceiling. I don't even know if that ceiling is any higher than 11.5 half PPR points per game, whereas Blake Corum, if something happens to Kyron Williams, hello, he's going to be a must-start. I think Corum, just based on the way they were used last year, is a guy that, unfortunately, he just never caught passes, basically, but he split goal line work with Kyron Williams. They had the same amount of goal line carries from whatever it was, week seven or whatever. Corum started getting work. He could be a guy you can throw in there in a pinch if you need a flex. All right, we're going to- I think that would make Corum easily the featured back. Oh, yeah. And he hasn't- Ronnie Rivers would be the next guy up. Yeah, no, they value Corum quite a bit, and I haven't heard any reports about him lately, but early in camp, he was having a terrific camp, and- Well, all the videos of him training were showing him. I mean, I'm not so sure that he's not as good as Kyron Williams, which is not- which I think Kyron's very good. I think they both are very good, but we'll see. I haven't seen enough of Blake Corum. He was drafted earlier than Kyron, for what it's worth, in the NFL draft. Okay, that's it for this show. Thank you so much for watching and listening, everybody, and for our nine participants in today's draft. Awesome stuff, really. I'm going to write about the draft today, so it'll be on the site. And I want to read in the comments which team people watching thought was the best. Maybe there'll be a consensus about which team won the draft. People watching. Great album from Sam Fender. Well, and with that, thank you, Dave, for plugging that. We'll talk to you at the Mailbag with Dan Schneier. Later on. See ya. Paramount Podcasts.