Josh Groban

Hi, my name is Josh Kroban, and I feel downright giddy about being Conan O'Brien's favorite. Now that's the right attitude. That is. No, it's not. But giddy is appropriate. It's a giddy honor. Hey there, welcome to Conan O'Brien Needs A Friend sitting here with Son of Obsession, Matt Gorley. Hi. Hi, I'm Matt Gorley. And I are just back from Morocco. That's funny. I didn't see you guys there. Oh, really? Were you there? Yeah, much there on my own. Yeah. That makes sense. No, we were shooting an episode of the travel series, Conan O'Brien's Go, and we, Sonny, we're kind enough to come with me. Because actually something came up on this podcast, you expressed a desire to get a certain product, a certain argon oil, and so I decided, I'm going to get you that argon oil by taking you to Morocco. Yeah. Is it a spoiler to say if you got the way? We can't say anything. What we can tell you. We're going to tune in for that. But it wasn't like the arc of the covenant. I mean, you could probably get this pretty. It's very readily available there. Apparently, it's also readily available here. Oh, you got scared. I got scared. As we were in the market hunting down the argon oil, someone said, "Yeah, you can get this on Amazon, and it will come from the same store that you found." But anyway, that ruins the magic of travel. But we had, well, tell me what you thought, Sonny. Oh, I had so much fun. I used to travel when you do the travel shows, and I forgot how it's a lot of work. It's a lot of work. It is a lot of work. You guys seem a little tired. Are you tired? I woke up at 2.30 this morning, I didn't go back to sleep, because I was eased for a while for other things. So, I was on that time, and then we went to Morocco. Yeah. And so, I haven't been on LA time in quite a while. Yeah. I was waking up at like 3 in the morning, and cleaning out cupboards. Yeah. When I wake up, and it's pitch black outside, and I know I'm up, I just start doing tasks that I would never do otherwise, like, I'll build a urinal. First, I'll fire the porcelain. I mean, I'll do all these crazy things, because I think you have that, you're revving. You want to be useful. You want to get something done. So yeah, I've been actually mostly what I've been doing is organizing things that I haven't organized in a long time. I mean, just, and my wife was away, so I was alone. It's me, the dogs, and the cats, and they hear me in the garage banging away, doing stuff. I'm not productive. I'm not productive. I just like clips of shows I like, and I just scroll on my phone in the bed. It's nice. It's called doom scrolling. It's not doom, because my algorithm's really fun. What's your algorithm? My algorithm's a lot of, it's like, you know, silly humor. It's a lot of really funny stuff. I don't know how to describe it. And then every once in a while, it takes me to a really dark kind of place on Instagram. Like what? I don't know. There's just like, what's dark for you? I don't know. Sometimes, I'm just like, how did this end up here? I can't think of it. This would be a real good example if you had an example. It would be so good. If I had an example. Is it like street fights? That kind of thing? I just get a lot of fights. I do get a lot of fights, a lot of brawls and fights. And I love it. That's your love language. I love them. I know. And they make me, they fire me up, like they get me really intense. Like I don't know if you guys get that same, no, no, just me, okay. You like watching fights? I love it. Sometimes I revisit. I saw a clip recently that's been going around, this clip's been going around, which is sort of tangential to this, but this clip's been going around that they unveiled this robot and the robot comes out. It's one of these really impressive, you know, latest model robots and it's coming out and it's doing all these cool moves and spinning and stuff like that. And all these families are around watching it, like applauding. And then it spins around and it kicks this little kid, really hard in the stomach. And the kid doubles over and then kind of collapses and I think the kid's okay. I hope the kid's okay. Is this real? Yeah. I'm pretty sure it's real. And then the robot sort of stands up and then just starts to step back, retreat and I've thought, does that robot feel shame? Is it possible? It feels shame. And I was, because I'm a human, I was reading and oh, that robot just must feel so much shame right now. And then I realized, it doesn't know it doesn't, there's no way the robot's like, it's dark up in the street fights. I know, but we don't want it to feel shame. Robot kicks, boy in the stomach. It came off, yeah. Is it real? Yeah, yeah. The kid's okay, and I think the kid might have needed kicking, you never know. I don't want to bump people out, but I think it's okay. I know it's not, it's not funny, right? Is this so? Oh, yes. Oh my god. Look, so the, here's the guy's like, ha ha ha. Boy. Oh, no. Jesus. Yeah. Oh, no, that's awful. Okay. And look at the robots. Like, oh, no. I must destroy it to save oneself. Yeah. Oh my god. So anyway. Oh my god. I'm just standing out a little too far. What's that? That kid is. That's awful. Yeah. Well, you said he had it coming. You're victim blaming. Yeah. You guys algorithms turning you guys into monsters. I, um, yeah. I said to go robot. That was my comment that I wrote in. Oh no. You shouldn't be standing. Do you remember when we were, I don't know if we should mention this. When we were in Armenia, and there was a guy doing donuts, yes, and there was a perimeter of people around. We're in Yarevan, capital of Armenia. We're there for five minutes. When we hear all this noise and excitement, and we go to this big square where all these people were packed around watching. And there's a guy in the middle who's accelerating really fast in a car doing donuts. And everyone's just, it doesn't seem like an official performance. I think a guy was just doing donuts and everyone came to watch the guy do donuts because it's one o'clock and it's time for donuts. And everyone's, but there's no barrier between the people and the car. And the guy doesn't really, he's not a professional, he's not always doing. And then at one point, he swings around. And I think he hit a bunch of people. He hit people. I think they're okay. Yeah. And I don't think people, you know, hear everyone would be like, okay, get everyone's number and everyone's going to sue everyone. They're there just like, yeah, that's what happens. Shake it off. We're good. Get back around the perimeter. Get back to donuts. Yeah. It was crazy. Yeah. It didn't make the show that we were shooting, but it was, or no, no, you didn't know for it with that. We are opening with the robot kicking the Chinese boy. I'm going to put the top of the show. Well, what was your reaction to that? I mean, I don't know. First of all, I saw that thing. It got sent to me. Instagram thought cone is going to love a Chinese robot kicking a kid in the stomach, which I don't endorse. But now that you've probably watched it more than once, it's going to think that's what you want is robots kicking kids. Yeah. Well, I guess I'll just have to, I made my bed and I have to lie in it. That would be great if all my feet was robots attacking children watching for hours on it. Now that you've set it out loud, it probably will be alright, then, all righty, then remember that one? That was a big thing. Oh, righty, then I spent her. Yeah. Cool. I'm just trying to. 30, 30 years ago. It was over 70 years ago. Yeah. I just looked it up. Okay. You should do it. Oh, let's get into it. Okay. You should do it. You should do it. You should do it. And go. Well, anyway, right, Sonna? Yep. Maybe I got that one. Right, Sonna? I guess today is a Tony. And the thought like when we might want to end this podcast, I think it's coming up real soon. Completely. It's coming up real soon. Because it's going to be taken away if we don't end it up selfs, if we can't use this responsibly. Yeah. They're going to take it away. Exactly. And intro. Thanks, Sonna. My guest today is a Tony, Emmy and Grammy nominated singer songwriter. His new album, Cinematic, is a tribute to the Silver Screen and it's out now. I am so happy he's here today. He's a funny, lovely fellow. Josh Groben. Welcome. Josh, I am so thrilled you're here. We have had a connection over the years because as a very young man, you came on my late night show. I did. I thought this kid is very talented but also really funny. Oh, man. And you were sweet and I thought, I don't think he's going to make it, but wouldn't it be nice if he did. And I think I said that to you. It's what you led with. Yeah. So I, I, I, my next guest probably won't make it. You really like to keep me on edge, yeah, I was nervous already, but that really threw me. You've had this brilliant career and you remain a really nice person and a really funny person, which leads me to my next topic of discussion, which is not long ago. I was tasked with hosting the Oscars and I remember we had this idea. There needed to be someone who could sing this, you know, sing my tribute and immediately, I think two of us at the same time said, "Wouldn't it be great if Josh Groban would do it?" And I remembered having a thought, "Oh my God, Josh Groban. If he doesn't do it, I don't know that we can do this piece, 'cause that's the best person to do it. And I know that whoever, if you weren't available, 'cause we knew that you were touring-- Yeah, who's the second choice? Okay. This is not gonna make you happy, but it was comedian Pat Noswald. No, Pat! Yeah. Yeah, no. Apparently he's a terrible voice. You're imagining him in the night gear right now, and I know that there was-- That's just it. There was no second choice. And I know that if we'd found someone, I'd have been mad the whole time that it wasn't you and probably tanked the piece. So we reached out to you. We found out that you might be amenable. We should have a conversation. And next thing you know, I'm on a Zoom with you. And you're in Tokyo. I was in Tokyo. Yeah. There was no cooler experience in being in Tokyo, first of all, to begin with. And then having a Zoom with you about doing this bit. Nothing will top this. Well, here's the weird thing, too. I thought, remember, we got on the Zoom, and I said, "You must be on tour." And Josh said, "No, they have the best sex toys here." That's right. Yeah. And this is where I like to shop for my sex toys. And then, for 20 minutes, you were showing me these toys. Oh, I had a bag. I had two-- I had two Trader Joe's bags full, of dildo's and vodka, suction cups and tassels. No, no, no. Let me continue. I-- no, it was really-- it liked tourism for me. Yeah. The thing is, no one builds shit like the Japanese. True. But you kept turning the mom, and they were like, "I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know." Like, "Gang, gang, gang, gang, lotter robotics." Yeah. Lotter robotics. Yeah. And one of them had a song similar to the one you wanted me to sing. It was a-- so I kind of said, it's like, you know, like this. [hums] But anyway, we had this-- so the next thing you know, we're rehearsing, you killed it. We do it at the Oscars. You were great. And then here's a weird thing about show business. You killed it. And people really like the piece, and people were so happy that suddenly you're there. I love anyone who's legitimizing a completely illegitimate piece of comedy. So the fact that you were part of it with your amazing voice, but you're singing these incredibly stupid lyrics about how I'm the greatest ever. And it's over. And from my perspective, I'm on top of a mountain holding onto a fake falcon and being pulled off the stage, and I waive to you and you kind of waive back and you go left and I go right. And then I'm into the show. And I never see you again. I know. And it's weird because I know that if I had been watching that, I'd think, "Oh, cool, now Conan and Josh Groben get to hang out backstage and trade all the horses." Go to a lounge. Go to a lounge. No. I don't see you anymore. Yeah. And TV is bits over and then you're off to Belgium to do a concert and, you know, I'm off. I don't know where I go, but to sleep for a week, I mean, I knew though going into it that, I mean, if I could see you even for a second, that would be great because your responsibility is on a night like that, leading up to it. And then on the night, and you make it look easy. I mean, it really was, I was happy that this was scheduled on the calendar so we could catch up. Yes. And the only reason I was having you, the only reason, and first of all, this will never, no one will ever hear this. There's no tape in the machine, said the idiot who fundamentally didn't understand how things work. But it is really nice to get to talk to you, and I was listening to the wave, and I was listening to the album you did, Cinematic, and it's all these different amazing movie songs, songs from great movies, and I was listening to you sing the Godfather theme, and it has lyrics in Sicilian. That's right. And I didn't realize that the Godfather had lyrics, the Godfather theme, me neither. And I was like, this is amazing. And I translated the lyrics. I used I translate, and it's just going over the plot of the Godfather. That's right. It was before the Godfather, it came out. No, no, no, it came out at the same time as the Godfather. But the lyrics are not a magic, they sound like such a beautiful song, but all the lyrics are, you shouldn't let your wife and Italy start the car. She will blow up, and her body will go real far. Never sit with your back to a window. Yeah, it's, it's, you know, I mean, enjoy the clams, enjoy the clams. Incredible. Just really, really getting into the nitty-gritty. Really it is. You'll see a sequel, and you'll see it's pretty good. Watch number one and two, but three, maybe, well, it's understood. Three's a mistake. Three's a mistake. Yeah, I go up for that one. Yeah. But I was listening to it, and just, uh, unchained melody, there's, I mean, there's a bunch of songs there. And also your skyfall, oh, thanks. It's fantastic. Thank you. I was listening to all these, and I was thinking, first of all, the musicians you have behind you, it's insane. 90, 90 pieces, 90 players in London at Air Studios, and singing it in the room with them is like nothing else. There's so much about my job that is just isolated. You're in a hotel room, you're in a dressing room, you're in front of a microphone. To be in the room with them playing is like walking on a cloud. It's, because, you know, if you mess up, they have to start again. If they mess up, you start again. And it's just a, it's an incredible experience to, to sing these melodies with them. And the Sicilian came because I, I was, I rehearsed it in a, there's an English language version, an Italian language, and a Sicilian version, and I flew it in Italian. No, I, I learned these languages as a singer, because I grew up learning these art songs, and I would, I would sing in French and Italian and Spanish. I don't speak the language fluently, but I, but I learned them as I'm, of course, when I'm singing them, uh, but I sent in a demo of the Italian version to Coppola and the team. He would be honored for the AFI lifetime. Oh, cool. Yeah. Okay. I was going to do it for that. Yeah. And I sent in a demo and I was really nervous. And I worked like for two weeks on it. And then they sent me back a note saying, like, oh, no, no, Mr. Coppola would like it in Sicilian. And so that is when I realized that there was such a thing looked it up. There was. And, um, yeah, you learn something new every day. It was beautiful though. Do you ever, do you think ever for a second, you know, having your agent call and go, yeah, that's not happening. Coppola. Do you know what I mean? Cause I, I sent that response back all the time, but it's about much smaller things. Oh, okay. Yeah. I can cone and be there for the kids birthday party at three. And I'll say no, I can be there at three 15, but I want my $200 upfront just to throw your weight around. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, you want Sicilian? Now you get gibberish. That's what you get. Cause what's really the difference? Yeah. Yeah. What are you going to say? No. Well, I'm sorry. Coney. I think all four languages are just gibberish. No. No. I'm sorry. I thought everyone spoke American. Oh, my God. Are you recording? Can we? Are you recording this? No, we're, uh, we're good. We're good. I'm pretty sure America was the first language said the idiot. And then everyone lost their way. Oh, goodness. So I want to talk about your origin story, because it really fascinates me. When you're a kid, you obviously, you're like singing in your room. I think you're aware that you have this thing you can do. But you probably don't know what its value is or its merit. Yeah. And then you're 13 years old and you're in a choir. Yes. And I want, do I have this right? The choir teacher's like, uh, you in the back. Exactly. Right. Uh, why don't you come forward? I want to hear you a little better. What? Well, what he did was he's, which all great teachers do is you recognized that there was a student in his choir who really needed the push. I was not, I mean, I'm a ham on stage, but I'm like the most introvert on stage. Right. And when I was a kid, I was really introverted at a really hard time making friends. My grades weren't great. I did 80D and didn't even know about it. So like I was a little bit lost and I was in the back of the class and I was in the back of the choir. And I loved being part of it, but he heard that there was a little bit of a talent there. I was, by the way, 13 years old, my voice still hadn't changed. So there was a talent there, but it was very, it was very high. Yeah. It was a real gamble for him to say, I'm going to put this kid in the front and I'm going to give him a song and he gave me this song, "Swonderful", George Gershwin's song, "Swonderful", "Swonderful", and I sang it with all my might because it was an assignment. He knew that if he didn't give it to me as a class thing that I would never do it for myself. Right. So in pushing me to the front, he gifted me with a moment that changed, even if I hadn't gone into it professionally, a moment that changed my, my growth forever. You know, the kids like the next day were like, "Well, man, that was, you know, even the bully was like, bro, yeah, I'm going to still beat you since, I'm going to beat you since beforehand to compliment you on your incredible range, voice of an angel now, get in that locker. Yeah. Can you do it? Wow. Can you do it yourself? I like this bully who just phones it in. Get in that locker. Well, that's basically, you pull your own underwear up so that it rides into your crack. Thanks a lot. What are you doing? I'm on Amazon. At least they had to do it in person back then. Yeah. It's also anonymous online, you know. I didn't like it, but I respected it. I don't know. Bullies today's Zoom people. Oh, they just folded it. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. What's up? Thanks for taking it. Yeah. Can you stick your face in any year and old? Yeah. Yes, sir. I love stories where people figure it out. I'm also picturing the teacher. Like, okay, let's music teacher. Okay. Yeah, you now. Next, what is it, Jay Groben? John, John, Josh. All right, let's hear it. No, you know, they're glasses shatter. What is this damn name anyway? Yeah, it was, yeah. Okay, Pavorati, let's hear this guy. I gotta get to lunch. His name is actually, his name is Richard Barrett and I invite him to every concert that I do because, because still make him pay. I still, that's a trick I like to do. Ah, my old comedy teacher. It's $700 for that seat. I'd like to offer you the opportunity to buy tickets to my new show. No, he's, he was, he was not that guy. He was super, you know, excited to teach and still teaches and, you know, not only did he pull me out from the back, but he knew that I like to play piano. He knew that I was kind of gravitating towards the drum set and the back. So he's like, I'm gonna leave the music room open. So just whenever you need to go in, have an escape, get in there. And, you know, having access to all that just changed absolutely everything for me. Do you have perfect pitch? Can you identify a note? Not, I don't have perfect. I can play by ear. If I listen to something, I can sit down at the piano and figure it out. I actually can't read music. Everything that I've learned how to play. What? No, it's true. That's the only reason you're here. (laughing) What the hell? Adam. Our lesson's gonna be really disappointing. That's right. Push the button and you're ejected out of the Larchman office. You land in a parked car. I parachute down in front of Noah's bagels. (laughing) Well, the good news is I can get a great locks of dreams. You land, fracturing your pelvis, but immediately order a smear on a poppy seed. That's right, I said smear, son. They come out with pickles, Conan, huh? Yeah, you know. (laughing) You'd probably found out you couldn't read music. (laughing) I read you. I found out he couldn't read music and I ejected him. (laughing) Oh, man. So, you start singing and then, you have this moment, another pivotal moment is your 17. Someone introduces you to David Foster, a famous producer or a ranger, and he asks you to do this thing at the Grammys. It's like, you were a kid. It was so close together. Like that, the shy 13-year-old, whose voice was on the brink of changing, was 13. And then the call came in when I was 16. Right. So the time period between absolutely having no clue wearing this coat that was so big on me, and getting this call to be part of something that was-- It was very professional. It was something, a big thing at the Grammys. David had heard me sing at a charity event that he asked me to do, plucked out a high school, I sang a song from Phantom of the Opera. It was like the biggest day of my life. But I went back to class. I didn't think anything else would come from it. So when he called me and he said, "I'm at the Grammys. "I've written this song, it's called The Prayer. "It's for Celine Dion and Andrea Bocelli." And Bocelli is stuck on a tarmac in Germany. He can't be here in time for the rehearsals. Would you step in and would you sing this for Celine with Celine until he shows up? Do you mind? Do you mind? Now, that's just insane. What? And I, being an idiot, I mean, really, 16 years old, I did not have stars in my eyes to be a solo artist. I was like, I wanted to go to theater camp. I wanted to be-- I wanted to worship the throne of Sondheim, and I wanted to, like, that's what I wanted to do. So the idea of, like, the music business, being a singer with those kinds of people, I was only thinking, can I do this well or not? And even though I was a huge fan of Celine, I said to him, I don't think I'm the right person for this gig. I was so insecure. And Andrea Bocelli is, like, one of the great tenors of all time. And I was very much living in my baritone world. I was not singing those very high notes. So I said, I think you can do better. I said, thank you so much for asking me. I'm really honored. But I think you can do better. And my mom yelled at me from downstairs. I was, of course, still living at home. And she said, who is that? And I said, oh, that was David Foster. Oh, oh, what did he want? Well, this Grammy rehearsal, as it happens, and Celine Dion is there, and Bocelli isn't-- he asked me to come and sing. And well, what did you say? I said, well, obviously, I said, I'm probably not the right person for the job. And they kind of went, oh, all right. Well, all right, then. And I could tell they were disappointed. David Foster called me back. And he said, I don't think you understood me. Get your ass to the shrine at Torium 3. Nobody had turned him down before. So he said, get over here. He barely gave me a pass. My dad shows up with me at the side door. Securities like, who are you? I said, I'm here to sing with Celine Dion. Yeah. Hi, I'm 17. I'm going to sing with Celine. And this is my dad. Yeah, and we're here for Celine Dion, which way to the microphone. And security guard had to walkie-talkie. Another guy with a walkie-talkie, and so on and so far. Against, finally, Ken Erlich, who produced the Grammys, came out and grabbed me. And it was just-- I was so new to it that it was such another world. I didn't really permeate how important that moment was to be for me. I just wanted to do a good job. I didn't want to embarrass myself. Celine, of course, came out. And then I realized how real it was. But the thing about Celine in that moment was she knew that David Foster was doing a thing. That this wasn't just a job. She knew because she'd been there at my age. That David was actually providing a door and an opportunity to prove myself. And that it was a lesson. And that this was a moment. This was not just a rehearsal. And so she kind of like clocked it. And she's like, oh, oh, got it. Josh, so nice to meet you, kiss, kiss. It could see I was nervous. And she made her sound check about making me comfortable. She grabbed my hand. She's like, we're going to do this. And when you look at me and you have the Italian, then I'll sing the English. We've got this. Just look at the prompt there. And look at the-- she was like pep talking me out there. And now that I've done a lot of sound checks for TV shows, I know how precious those-- I mean, you know from just doing-- You always get-- Much-- well, I'm sure-- It's not just a little turn. It's a little turn. Allowances for Celine Dion in that-- But it would. But I noticed that, you know, it's quick. Yeah, if you're doing the Oscars, and it's only appropriate, like Barbara Streisand, all the rehearsal time she needs. And then I'll say, I've got a thing right. I catch a fake giant bird on a mountain with Josh Groban. They're like, you've got eight seconds. Yeah, that's lunch. Yeah, that's lunch. You have eight seconds to get it right. And then get out of here. Who are you? Host, got it. Yeah, yeah. It's quick. And so now that I know, like-- And that was a big song that she was about to sing. Really hard. And that was a big moment. It was nominated for a Grammy in Oscar. So the fact that she took her precious time, when many superstars at that time would have looked at me as like, stand in singer. All right, do the best you can. Let's get through it. I might not have decided that this business was for me. Had she been me? Even though you were for rehearsal only, right? Yeah. And so-- Well, Kennerlick said to me, after I rehearsed, we're still looking to see if Coachella can make his flight. So go buy a suit in this lunch break. Go buy a suit. I mean, this feels so old-timey. Like, this feels so old. But now, you can TikTok yourself and get yourself on-- you can find an audience. But that idea of the kid did OK. Go down to men's warehouse. There's one down the street. And I've got a tailor. Here's his name. And it was like, get a suit. I looked at my dad and said, I'm not-- I can't do this on camera. This is not-- I'm not ready for this. Thankfully, Coachella showed up. I got to meet him. He wound up doing the song. And I got to have a really good story. Did you get to tell Coachella? You were OK. I thought I nailed it. Because he's notoriously bad singer. No, I was just-- I was so grateful that he was going to finally go out there and nail it. My dad did have a camcorder video of it. And now, of course, you know that filming a soundcheck for something like the Grammys of the Oscars is just absolutely-- no, no. And Celine saw that he was filming. And the security said, you can't do that. And she said, no, no, no, let him film that. So that was-- she's the best. She was the absolute best that day. And you know, but then 10 years later, I got to sing that song on the Grammys with Coachella. So we had like a full circle. And I've sung it with Celine a few times since then. So it was just-- it's wild how those things-- do you remember your 16-year-old get a suit moment? Well, mine came later. Mine came when I was 48. Still involved a suit. Now, I do remember-- I mean, the story I have that kind of lines up a little bit with that was obviously I had these other-- all these other adventures beforehand. But when I-- you know, living out here in LA and getting a chance to audition to possibly be considered to be a late night host replacing David Letterman, which seemed insane. But they said, show up in Burbank at this time. And I didn't have anything to wear. So Lisa Kudrow, who's my best friend at the time, she said, hey, let's-- I'll take care of this. And she took me to Fred Siegel and picked out the worst coat. And I'm sorry, Lisa. And we've talked about this before. But I'm a very pale person. I know now that I need to wear blue. She was like, oh, this looks good. And it was this linen floppy jacket that was very-- like almost pure white, maybe a little off white. And so I put it in the back of my torus and some transmission fluid that got on it and stained it. So I turned the-- and I walk out-- and I mean, people have, I think, looked up. You can look up the footage of me auditioning. I'm like, hey, everybody. And I've got the floppy hair. And then I look like I'm trying to pretend to be Don Johnson in Miami Vice after he repaired a car. Could you see the stain on the-- I don't think you could. And so you don't just have one moment like that. You have, in my case, anyway, many of them. And they continue. Yeah. They say luck is preparation means opportunity. And these moments, these points of light continue. It wasn't just that moment. It's like I can think of that was a tent pole moment that I didn't know then. But the domino effect happened after that. Now, most people-- I'm not most, but I'll say many, many people in your situation-- that's where the self-medication starts. That's where alcohol, drugs, people get into that kind behavior for a person. reason because they feel like a lobster that's been shelled, but it's alive, you know? And everything's too literally too raw. You didn't have that. Right. Well, where my sex tourism to Japan started, I will say it's, that was a somewhat less dangerous way to, okay, that's why I'm happy. That quote, if anyone missed the top, that quote as a context is very, well, that's just bad news for you and your team. In England, that would be the headline of the, of the guardian. Daily mirror. Daily mirror. Yeah. Wait a minute. Um, no, but I, but I, I was, uh, I, you know, I battled all, I battled all the stuff. I had anxiety. I had depression. I had, you know, and, you know, I had, I had, I had certain medication medications, but you knew that you couldn't drink because you're a voice. So the pressure of needing to sound really good out there, I think, kept me from getting into dangerous territory because ultimately, the feeling of not doing great out there is worse than how good any of that stuff might feel in the interim. What can I just say? Heroin would not have affected your voice. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you should, no, you should not advocate for heroin. Is that what you're doing? Well, I'm just saying, okay, I'm a little shocked that that wasn't proposed to you by your team just to take the edge off my team out of the sacks over there is constantly saying, you know, I don't think your comedy timing would be heard by some of these, like a fentanyl or something. And I'm like, oh, I'm telling you, Adam, there's not a day that goes by. Adam, what the fuck? Why? Come on. Oh, he's not going on Mike now. The mic is saying so far away from it. He's got to, he just took the mic and buried a whole, dug a hole and buried it. So I'm very glad you didn't get any of those drugs, which by the way, I think are very bad. Oh, good, good, good. Yeah, you took the food thing. My genre of music though, my genre of music though was not like, I did not have that crew around me. Yeah, what about your roadies? Yeah, it's like, hey man, you got a bumpal line. Hey man, your off-ameria was really killer. You seem a little tense. I was with Fanned Hale and, but now, Groban, this is what I think you should do. Yeah, musical theaters fine, but heroin's better. You know? It's like an episode of like, "Member cop rock?" Sure. Yeah, "Member cop rock." Everything I relate back to cop rock, just everything's a musical. I imagine like a guy in a trench coat going, "You sang the high note, but here's some math." Yeah. I did not have that singing guy in the trench coat like, after my classical scales, saying like, you know. It's passing to me that I'm glad you brought this up because I have gone, no, we're going to go off the drugs, but more specifically into musical theater because, and musicals that I've always, to this day, I can never reconcile. I couldn't as a kid and I can't now as an old man. I can't reconcile the, what do you think we ought to do? I don't know. It's kind of tricky. Yeah, sure. But maybe, we, what the hell happened? What is it? Tempt you out of it. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm always, I would love to be in a musical where someone does that and other people go, or, you know, what are you doing? Yeah. Richard Kracher scratch. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. But there's two camps of people. There's, there's those that just think it's absolutely ridiculous and don't get it at all. You, perhaps, she'll let me. And, you know, I'm not putting you both in the same, well, you know, I too, I'm with, I'm with one of the Kardashians as well. Why is that clown singing in a high note? I know. Ridiculous. Yeah. And then those that are totally swept away. I was one of those kids that was totally swept, just totally swept away by it. And I, the combination of music and story and that you could break into a song and that, that the singing of that song would somehow tap into some deeper way of expressing the story. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I just, I suspended that disbelief. I do make an exception for the, I'm obsessed with the music man and I'm obsessed with the, you got trouble song and I feel like I was put on this earth to do that and someday in my life, I need to do it because I, I, you know, and I wrote a Simpson's episode about it and it's just something that I just, and, and then later was asked, because I knew you've worked with the Hollywood men's gay choir. Yes, that's right. Gaman's course of Los Angeles. Gay. Gaman's course. And what did I say? But you're the Hollywood. The Hollywood gay. Hollywood foreign choir. What did you do? I, I think they're, believe me, I've worked with them and their name is the gay Hollywood. That's right. Choir, that men frequent. That's what it's called. Frequent. Guys. Hello. But I got you, I got you work with them, speaking to them directly to them. Yeah. Yeah. You're going to look at right in the camera. I only want it. Hello, it's me. Yeah. David. I'm an ally. I'm so out of control. What do I say to you every day? He calls me once. He'll always just text me Ally and once I was in the car with my boyfriend and he called me because he knew we were in the car and I answered and he just screams Ally. Because then I can say later on, I went on record. I'm just, I need to be stopped, I'm an ass, but they, I performed the troubles, not the trouble song, the monorail song, which was my version of it at the Hollywood Bowl for this Simpsons anniversary, which was classic. One of my all-time favorite moments in show business and they were absolutely fantastic and really funny. So I've always thought, oh my god, okay, I need to figure out a way where I get airlifted into a version of Music Man and I just get to do that song and then I'm airlifted out. I mean, I don't know, after the beef you clearly have with musicals, I don't know if that's going to happen. Do you? I just sing myself also from Chalamet. My beef is always just ballet. Yeah. I'm down with musicals. I do love musicals. I just, not a beef, it's just that I could never make the logical leap. Right. The Music Man is where the line is okay. Yeah. I love that like, that's the one where you're like, but that guy, you know why, with his little traveling salesman box, when he breaks into song, I believe it. You know why? Why? Because it's that Rex Harrison thing if he's kind of toxic. Oh, okay. You know, now listen to my friend. Yeah. It's all that kind of thing that makes more sense to me because I often start talking to people in that musical rhythm and yelling at them. Yeah. I mean, I do. Yeah. You can see why I would want to do a song where it's like, now gather around, everyone and I'll tell you what, you have to know. Right. Oh, you got to try, you know, yeah, bad as opposed to, I wish to have a man in his hand. Well, it's not, it's not trying to be real. It's, you take a second and go, Conan, you have a beautiful voice. I'm giving him every fucking opportunity. I wish to have a man in his hand. I mean, come on. That was, well, you know, it's crazy. He's wiping blood from his eyes. The blood that comes out of Josh's eyes when he hears music being butchered. Right. That was hairs on the back of my neck. Fantastic. What a beautiful Irish tenor. Your hair's on the back of your neck. Not your hair. It's just other hairs on the back of your neck. They go all the way down. I'm kidding. Stop it back there. All of you cackling. We should address. I want to address the Timmy Shalame thing, but just a second because he was right there in the first row when we were at the Oscars, and I think I do, I think he's an amazing actor. Yeah. And I actually have met him a bit and know him. I really don't know him that well, but I think he is a really good guy. I really do. He got piled on it. Yeah. It became a hat on the hat. I'm going to take a second and I, of course, I thought that was okay. Maybe that wasn't a great thing to say, but, you know, I- It ultimately helped. Yeah. Ticket sales skyrocketed. I mean, like, the thing I took from it is like, all right, people are going to have their hot takes or opinions as people should. And then you can disagree with it or not. But ultimately, like, if what he said meant that everybody went, yeah, stinks, uncut, whatever it is, and then sales dropped, well, then that would be one thing. But, no, every, like, ballet companies were saying, use promo code Shalame to like, yeah. If you want two for one tickets, everybody was, you know, sometimes you need a heel for everybody to go now, wait a minute. Yeah. And he actually elevated it. People, and then he had, and then Mr. Copeland came to the show, our bit was, was written before he said those things. That's right. So we, you know, people are asking me, did you do that? You were right in front of you. Did you do that? And I said, no, we wanted to do that. No, we came up with that before that whole thing. But anyway, just, you know, just a moment to say he's all right. Also, and I think he's an incredible actor. Incredible actor. Incredible. Incredible. And talented actor. And who amongst us hasn't said things? I mean, truly. You did this interview. I think it's in this whole interview alone, you said a lot of things. Can I just say, I want to double down on this. I believe when at the beginning of time, everyone spoke American. Oh, there we go. Oh, my God. And I think American is a language. And also, what's wrong with fentanyl? And also, use promo code Conan for your black tar heroin needs. Let me tell you, hey, so let's talk about this. You were always interested in comedy. It's always been an interest of yours. I know you're a talented mimic at some point because you are a renowned singer. You get this opportunity to be in the office, voice on the Simpsons. You get to start playing in that on those little playing fields of comedy. And you have a facility for it and you really enjoy it. And that must just been, I mean, you have fans who are comedy fans if you don't know you say that's very true yeah and if they're just tuning in right now they think oh they have the comedian Josh Groban on oh wow he sings yeah in fact thank you for that opportunity on the Oscars to present my singing voice yeah yeah yeah I thought you should finally be heard out done wonders for my streaming yeah yeah um I so I talked about those first years of my career where I just felt like a shell of myself part of that was because I felt like a a huge part of my brain was just going untapped and you know in high school I got to work with that choir teacher but then I also got to start an improv troupe they I had a free period and we had a black box theater and they and when everybody else was just having snacks and you know what do kids do roll in the dice and I don't know um wow you really had no social life you really had no child you know when you know they were training to talk you run down the street in your bucket shoes mokin clothes and you know I don't know what they were doing yeah like one of those wheat rims that goes down the street that's it yeah playing you know playing hoop and stick all the way home hoop and stick already in a butter chart and uh yeah and uh so they said you got anything you want to do we got an hour free period and I asked my theater teacher I said can we do input can I do improv I'd I'd taken some classes this is actually very funny side quest is that in the valley there's a theater called um connection LA connection comedy theater that's it and the valley and I was one of the youngest people they had they had their taking classes there they now have a very strange painting of me on their wall if you drive down I think it's victory or one of the streets in the in Burbank uh I think it's next to like there's a trophy shop on one side and a gun store on the other yeah and then there's this improv building and it's got like me and Will Farrell who I guess went there and Matthew Perry's faces on there and but but we all look like bizarre versions of ourselves any tribute painting someone is by definition yeah weird I there are faces are kind of bent and weird you know there are no paintings of me anywhere as a singer yeah but for some reason LA connection was like this guy this improv master we must have him on there um but improv was like an escape for me so I started there and then you know for the vast majority of the beginning of my career at the label and everybody else was like you have to be the guy who's on the billboard all the time you you cannot stray from the brand of singing these serious songs and being the serious guy on the pedestal because people are getting an emotion from the songs and you don't want to ruin that um honestly it started with Kimmel he gave me uh he he said you know because I wasn't getting couch time and you given me couch like being allowed to talk and show my personality was not something as a singer you normally get to do right Kimmel said we've got a panda that is not mating right now uh I think it's Ling Ling the panda yeah would you do a skit where you sing a ballad trying to make the panda's horny right and I was like here we go in a way we go and so that was the first thing that's the only yes there's a little little Josh the panda it's uh it's uh no there was I think I think it worked I don't know but he then he had me back to sing Kanye West tweets right and then he had me back to sing Trump's tweets back when we we could laugh and um those were good times and so just I think and then friends that I knew that did these shows said we've got a funny little thing or we want you to play yourself in a bizarre aware yeah and I just always said yes I said yes to all of them because for me it was my way of just kind of exercising some of that stuff that I felt I wasn't able to be myself it's freeing it's fun so yeah that's do you have this just fascinates me but let's say you're singing something like you know unchained melody or some song that had where you have to hit these heights and you know those notes are coming do you ever get in your head about that or you just at this point no oh I I know exactly what to do there and which I'm sure you do but when you have to take it up several octaves you might be training for a long time you might technically know that the notes are in your range yeah but uh it's it's takes a lot of kind of practice mentally to get yourself to a place where you just decide to say and it's not because you don't care but there has to be a certain amount of fuck it because yeah because if you care that much oftentimes the mind and the voice are connected yeah you're gonna get tense and then the more you say god I hope it comes out the sick thing about it is the more you're gonna regret how it came out I don't know if you're aware of this but you sometimes say fuck it out loud oh did I see no no no no no when I'm saying is I watched you do the National Anthem once and when it came to rockets red glare and this was in front of a huge stadium filled with children well you said you said fuck it and it's like don't do that when you're timing the jets sometimes you have to van and it's just I tried to stretch they you know you see the camera guy is going to doing this I think you should start when you're gonna hit a really great impressive note saying watch this just before you do it just you break out of the sun go watch this you know there was a singer I won't name him but there was a singer kind of there was a tenor that I used to see that was kind of coming up around the same time and he used to do something before he'd hit high notes where he like he'd be about to sing the high note he'd go yeah oh no and I just would go get this here we watch this like I don't like that at all yeah I just yeah yeah check me out if I did that if I want it definitely wouldn't come out like that's a surefire way to jinx a high note I would completely go this other guy's way yes you would I would go the other way and glorify my favorite thing is to say check this out and then fail I think it's the funniest the funniest thing in the world to me is watch this and then wipe out and then completely wipe out I think that's very funny yeah you don't start your Oscar monologue with check this out all right here we go all right what's this hey you ready to laugh watch this oh yeah did you see that that movie is someone so yeah someone so you know boy that would be off that's a good joke but I did have I did have one performance where I was kind of sick I was with David Foster he by the way I should preface by saying he's been the most supportive and he's been a great mentor but there was one time where I think he knew that I should just buckle up and sing the note and I was being kind of a baby about it I had a cold and I said David this song please we just make sure I don't say can I just not sing the note tonight can I sing around it yeah yeah no problem no problem we get out there gets up to the note he's gonna mic at the piano right and he goes here comes the money note right up for and that was a lesson learned that was like and by the way because I was so surprised that he said it pop right out sure and it was like you know tough love yeah yeah a lot of flamm got spit out in that moment yeah batang yeah um okay there's another question so I'm driving around listening to cinematic and uh you know the breakfast at Tiffany's theme uh moon river moon river with that it's what you do with your dad yeah and then it devolves into bickering at one point it doesn't you apparently left the milk out and it was overnight dishes will never get done river there's no duet with me and my dad yeah the fuck it in that one is very faint it's uh it comes after the jazzy key change a little off my how cool they get to do that with your dad it's amazing one of one experience yeah I um great great musical arranger Vince Mendoza gave us that beautiful arrangement and there was always a moment in the song for an instrumental and I had great trumpet players that I'd kind of reached out to get failures I talked to Wynton Marsalis and Terrence Blanchard my heroes to say hey I'm doing this song would you would you be interested and they both said send me in and then I said to myself you know my favorite trumpet player is also my favorite person and my dad is turning 80 this summer he hasn't played the trumpet anyway in any way professionally since the 60s right and I asked him I said if I I know you played moon river as a kid if I got you to rehearse you had two weeks noticed you think you could get the lip and do you think you could do it and he says well let me see and he unzipped his his trumpet you know case it had dizzying a lesbian for president on it and it was dusty hadn't been open since like the 70s and you know every time I'd call the house I'd say mom how's he doing I'd be like you know in the background he's rehearsing and I said how's it going dad he's good good you know I actually think I might be able to do this so Greg Wells our producer set it up I said look this is going to be my dad I want this to be special and we need to have some patience he hasn't played in a while so Greg's credit he said we got to do this at sunset sound which was Louis Armstrong's favorite studio in LA and then he called and they said you know we actually still have Louis stool so if you want we could set out the stool for your dad to sit on and we got the old mics he used to record into and I'm going this is just turning into not just a song but like a core memory family moment yeah my whole family showed up and my brother and my sister in law my two-year-old nephew who's walking around and you know I got pictures of my dad playing the trumpet for him and it was just you know it and he crushed it he totally crushed it so I got my musicality from him he went into business his mom said that's no way to make a living yeah and to have a song that is a tribute and a thank you for what he put in my DNA is just it's the best it's the best thing I've ever made my father-in-law is an incredibly talented musician and you know great you know you can play jazz guitar and you know that kind of Dixieland style and he's just I mean he can play like Django Reinhardt stuff and oh great and and he's really terrific and he would always sit in with other bands and stuff and he played at our wedding and but he's someone who that's what his is real love but he thought well you know I'm married I'm getting married and I'm gonna have kids and I must be responsible so he you know worked in insurance and there's so many people who are a great artist yeah I think we live in a culture now of this is my dream and I'm I must do it. There's so many people who make decisions that this is what I want. I want a stable income from my family and they do that. So people like your dad and he could really well. We have one recording of a life performance he had in the '60s and he was, I mean, truly phenomenal. And, you know, he became an executive recruiter. You know, he's a head hunter. You know, he goes out and finds jobs for people and he's brilliant at it and he's got, luckily, I don't have that side of the brain. If I wasn't doing this, I'd be lost. But he has also the business, he can focus, like you really focus and he can do that and he's great at it. But for him to watch, me do it for a living. My brother's a director to kind of watch our artistic endeavors, Blossom. - Right. - His, I think, been really. - But also, yeah. And you're able to do that because, - Well, yeah. - He was responsible and did what he had to do. - So cool. - That's exactly right. Is that he went into to do what he did to make sure that we were able to say, hey, I liked going to the theater. Can I join the theater camp? Can I get an instrument to play it myself? And that is the greatest service he could have ever possibly done for us, yeah. - I think our final message here is, don't pursue your dreams. You know what I mean? Don't. - Speak English. - Yeah. - Do heroin. - I call it American. - Oh, sorry. Speak American, do heroin and deny your dreams. - Yeah, yeah. I call old English original American. (laughing) 1,100 AD English to me is like, yeah, that was American. And then they made it English. (laughing) - Yup, I'm a moron that just doesn't quit. Well, latest album, Cinematic, it's really, it's amazing. And also, I mean, I was thinking, do you ever just drive around and listen to yourself and enjoy it or is that impossible? - Well, there's so much of that that happens when you're doing mixes. And you gotta make sure you're listening with a critical lens because you just want to make sure that everything is balanced, right? - So, I mean, yes, you accidentally get chills sometimes. You say, well, I sounded good. There were, that really sounds great. - But you prick. - My, yeah, that's true. It's just, ah, here comes the high note. (laughing) - Yeah, I'm gonna rent you a convertible and we're gonna get a bumped up sound system and you're gonna listen to cinematic driving around L.A. And people are gonna see you listening to yourself and pointing at yourself at stoplights. - I'm gonna point at you. - Yeah. - I'm gonna say. - What a voice, eh? (laughing) - Josh, this has been a real delight. - Same here. - Thank you so much. - You were a teenager, I believe, when I met you. And you were, again, really sweet, really funny. And I thought, and now here you are. And you're an incredibly, incredibly good guy. And a terrific artist. So, glad to know you. And thanks again for your help. - Listen, thank you for the opportunity. Thank you for being an inspiration for so many years. You make it look easy. I know how hard it is. And you're just such a beacon of life for so many. So, that's, wow. - Oh, wow. - This is the one I'm gonna stick the landing here with some, take it. Take it. Well, you heard it here. I'm a huge influence musically. You are, Josh. You are. You're hearing your Danny Boy. Really, oh, Danny Boy, the pipe, the pipes. Maybe I can do this for a little bit. (laughing) Tuna Brian goes broke in one month. (laughing) Josh, thank you. (upbeat music) - In celebration of your upcoming appearance in the new Toy Story movie. - Toy Story 5. - Yeah. - The new one. - Yeah. - Okay. (laughing) - We have something special to show you. - Oh my God, it's out. - Oh, how cool. - Look at that. - This is my character. His name is Marty Pants. - It's a toy for the listener. - It's a toy for, (laughing) well, basically my character in Toy Story 5 is a potty training device. And so I think this must be my voice, right? I mean, that could be me. - Yeah, I think it's you. - No, it's, I mean, I recorded these. - You recorded specifically for the toy or did they take the sound bits from the movie? - No, they had me do it for the toy. - I didn't hear it. - And I was like, I was like, you know what, I'm gonna have, I'm gonna have, I'm gonna have, I'm gonna have, this, this is the bathroom. - That's you. - That's me. - So, what's that? - You did it here. - In this studio. - Yeah, I did it. - Yeah. - Yes. - It doesn't shut up. It must be, you know, it won't shut up. - Oh, no. - You know what I did, I decided, you're like, - It was weird, I'm being interrupted by myself. - Finally, there's karma. Oh my God. I can't get him to shut up. - You done? - Do, are you done? - Oh, he's motion activated. - That's what the problem is. - Yeah, it is. - It is motion activated. - Oh, it does say it right around the box. - Can you turn it upside down? - I'm just gonna put it on the floor for a second, just like. - Can you yourself go on the floor? (laughing) - And can I be boxed and put into storage by a collector? - Yeah, they said, oh, do you wanna, you know, I guess they can use a different voice, but they said, do you wanna do your voice for the toy? Making it, I'm never gonna be a toy again. - Yeah, I wanna be a toy, I wanna be the voice of a toy. - You did get a little extra thing to negotiate with. - I do not think so. - No, no. (laughing) - Well, this is, this is the opposite of a cash grab. - This is a Disney Pixar, okay. - Yeah, this is not that. This is, I mean, and I don't care 'cause it's, to be part of the toy story saga was just a delight and to be in the same company of these amazingly creative people and these huge stars. So I was just super happy to do it. But yeah, so now it's a, it's a toy. - I wonder when my youngest daughter gets potty trained to fool, use that. - I think your wife will mix that. - But what if you find out people are using it and children all over the world are getting constipated? (laughing) - On Epic, there's an epidemic of constipation among children. We think we found that, yeah, kids just seize up when they hear my voice. - I love that the time you're in a Pixar movie, it's when you're a roll of toilet paper. - Well, that's how the toy looks, but I'm not a roll of toilet paper. - I know, but that's what it's modeled after. - You're a roll of toilet paper. - It's a roll of toilet paper. - Yeah, you look like a roll of toilet paper. - No, you're bringing it the wrong way. - It's literally a roll of toilet paper. - It actually is like the roll of toilet paper. - No, no. - Oh my god, your eyes light up. Okay. - You just talked over my toy, which is so you. My toy was trying to talk and you in typical sonatoy. - That's an ancient sonatoy. - Take it over. - Okay, I'm glad I didn't talk over that. (laughing) - Let me see this thing. - Oh, look, now I like when you put it face down and he's just talking into the table. - Alone again. - Yeah. - Wow. - That's a little bit. - It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's. - That's smarty pants when he's low on battery and he sounds drunk. - Oh. - That's my method as an actor. - Oh, that's good. - Now, I have to be honest, as we record this, I've not seen the movie yet. So I don't know what's gonna happen. This could be the end of me. - Really? - What? Are you joking? - We just never know. - No, you're joking. It's, it's gonna be great. - I do not want to be the guy that fucks up Toy Story 5. - Oh, you're stupid. - I don't think you, maybe you'll get a spin off. - Yeah. - What if I leave the podcast to go double down on my smarty pants? (laughing) What if I start touring and I'm in a smarty pants costume? - You go to conventions? - I go to conventions and I have, you know, I just do this a lot and take pictures with people. - Yeah. - I think that's a good idea. - Yeah. - That'll work. - Anyway, so that's it. I am the voice of a toilet training toy. - This is exciting. - Are you excited? Now, this is a big deal for you. Animation and Disney and all that, right? - Well, I'm not like one way or the other on Disney cartoons, but Toy Story and Pixar, they're pretty amazing. And plus, now that I have a daughter that I go to the movies with, this is gonna be amazing. - Will you take her to see Toy Story 5? - Absolutely, we go see a lot. We love going to movies. So, I mean, this would be, sometimes we're stretching to find a decent movie. - The only thing I've seen, I go to the premiere tomorrow and I will see the movie for the first time. I have, and there are whole chunks of the movie. I don't know 'cause they only give you your part. But one of the things that they did let me see was the opening of the movie. And it's just stunning. - Do you have the, are you in that or do you have a movie? - I'm not in it. - Do you have a grand entrance of it? - No, I mean, I don't know. I have not seen anything to do with my part. I'm totally in the dark. So, but they show the opening of the movie, which is quite cinematic and amazing. And I just, they are, because David Hoppy and I got to go to Pixar to record my parts. And it is, they're formidable these people. They're just really amazing. Are you gonna take the boys? - I am, yeah. - And when he comes on screen, are you gonna whisper to them? - I have complicated feelings about that kid. (laughing) - I think no, they know that Uncle Conan's in the next Toy Story movie. - They don't know which part I am. - They have no idea which part you're in. - Just tell 'em I'm Woody. - Oh my God, that's blasphemy. Absolutely not, no way. Do you get to live at Disneyland for free? That's one of the perks of being like a Disney employee. Do you have a badge? - No. - Oh, okay. So you're not like, you were just like temporarily there. If you wanted to go to Disneyland for free or get tickets for somebody who wants to go to Disneyland for free. - I think they got what they needed from me. - Okay. - And I will be, and even if I try to purchase a legitimate ticket to Disneyland, they will probably tell me I can't have it. (laughing) - You know, we floated the idea of the three of us going to Disneyland and recording there. I think we should do that. - I do that, sure, yeah. - I do that, yeah. - Yeah. - I love Disney. - I took a date. to Disneyland once years ago. - How old were you? - I was, I was when I was first living out here. So it would have been like 1986. I would have been 23. - How was it the day? - It was a good day. It was a great day. - It was a good day. - It was a good day. It takes a lot of the awkwardness out of it 'cause there's so much to do. - Why would there be awkwardness with me? What are you talking about? - Did you make her go to like the Hall of Presidents? (laughing) - It gets worse. I took her to the Hall of Presidents and then we stayed. 'Cause I wanted to see each president talk multiple times. (laughing) And then she got up and said one way. - I told her, she started to say something. I said, "Quiet, it's Martin Van Buren coming up." (laughing) He was the sage, I said, he was the sage of Kinderhub. And she went, "What?" And I said, "Old Kinderhub, upstate New York." Martin Van Buren, his lineage was, they were Dutch and then I snapped at her and I never saw her again. She left in tears. And then Martin Van Buren looked at me and went, "You are a dick, sir." (laughing) - He was so much about Martin Van Buren. - He said, "You know more about me than I do." And then Martin Van Buren said, "She looked hot." And then Lincoln said, "Sure did. You fucked up, son." - You cock blocked yourself, young man. - You cock blocked yourself and that's hard to do. And then all the presidents just spent like 40 minutes telling me what it would have to do. - He had a roast. - He just wouldn't have to be, I would watch the hall. - And then there was a Kevin Hart, a Kevin Hart robot came out and he said, "I'm not a president, but I want it on this." And then he went after me. And so was all the presidents and Kevin Hart roasting me for making my girlfriend go see the Hall of Presidents. Anyway, she fled, never to return again. Anyway, Toy Story 5, you do it, man. (laughing) - I don't know, my brain doesn't work today. Conan O'Brien needs a friend with Conan O'Brien, Sonom of Sessian and Mack Gourley. Produced by me, Mack Gourley. Executive produced by Adam Sachs, Jeff Ross and Nick Leo. Theme song by The White Stripes. Incidental music by Jimmy Vivino. Take it away, Jimmy. 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