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Jordan Peterson | Maps of Meaning | Lecture 2 | Pathways and Obstacles | Peterson Academy

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Jordan Peterson | Maps of Meaning | Lecture 2 | Pathways and Obstacles | Peterson Academy

The podcast blends drag culture, personal storytelling, and humor to explore the lives and experiences of drag queens. It begins with a cultural breakdown of a viral lyric referencing the British holiday tradition at Butlins and the song "Agedu," highlighting how drag fans use pop culture to connect. The hosts share personal anecdotes about drag performances, fashion, and the emotional challenges of being in the spotlight, including moments of self-doubt and community support. They also promote financial and wellness services like Progressive Insurance, BetterHelp, and Quince, tying personal growth to everyday choices. The conversation touches on the evolution of drag competition, including criticism of roast culture and script limitations, while emphasizing authenticity and self-expression. A recurring theme of "feeding the birds" symbolizes care, community, and shared joy. The episode ends with a call to action, inviting listeners to engage with the drag community and reflect on personal values, all wrapped in laughter, nostalgia, and heartfelt connection.

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Listen, tie tie baby, it's time to goss. So let's feed the birds. Let's feed the birds. Don't act like a little bitch. I'm on TV again. Am. Oh. Am. Mom. [Music] The Gefa is a beautiful non-binary name. It sounds like a fawn. This is Gefa. This is Gefa. That's beautiful. Gefa. That's me in a fawn. No, it's all real. Welcome back for another steaming, piping, golfing, serving of hot gauas. That's hot gauas. This is our weekly chat show where we talk about events in our lives, gossip and politics. And take a deep dive into that. Let's get in some gauas. Let's get soaking wet, pepper mache. Everybody get into the goss. This is hot gauas, honey. Gefa. Gefa and hoopla, the twins. Gefa and hoopla are our drag daughters. If pound cake had to adversaries like step sisters and pound cake with Cinderella, Gefa and hoopla would be the two, like frickin' frack, Gefa and hoopla. Yeah. And then Kayway Kelly would fight with Mocha to see who was going to play Gefa and who was going to play hoopla. Gefa, jealous. That's crazy. Did you see Kayway Kelly's 2002 X-Factor audition? No. A judge. Oh, it's all right. A judge pretended to be asleep at the table while she was singing then woke up at the end of her audition. It was so rude. And she did, she did, love a couple of words. But like, she didn't stop the beat of the music. She just, like, there was a word. Was she a drag queen? No, she a boy. She'd be a boy for you. She won't work her looks no more. Oh, okay. Yeah, she's trying to do it. Did she just say "durpa-durpa" if she didn't know the words? She did not do that. That's how Mocha does that. That's dup-dup-dup-dup-dup. Oh. A single mom who works eight jobs, Who loves her kids and never stops. She forgot to mention that the jobs all start with blow. She's little pound-kay. The jobs they call blow. Yes. Like, anyway, the wind blows. Gefa, a finesse. What was the other one? Gefa. Gefa, and hoopla. Gefa. And hoopla. Glitch. And ther stepbrother. Oh, and glitch. And fawn. Fawn. Fawn. Fawn is a beautiful name. Fawn sounds like the color that Lady Gaga would name a light peach lip liner in house labs. They all have great names. Cashmere, she fawn too. I got the box and I opened them all up and I tried them. They're beautiful. I wore them. I didn't get the lip liners, but I got some like concealers. I tried to tell me something. I got these bronzers too. She said, we know you're not wearing makeup in your new show, darling. You don't need, you don't need any more lip liner to. No, no, no, no, no. You need to see the sealer. And some hydrolonic acid. Please. For fermented arnica, please send it all my way. Yes. That sounds great. We salute you. Pickled stem cells with a hint of fire opal. Please. Believe. Believe. Believe. Do you know Coco Marshall, Miss Coco Marshall? Well, so we were supposed to start potting an hour ago and this isn't your fall. You've been watching Coco Marshall since. This is the nature of traffic. What we do. Really air travel. Nowadays it's just someone described it recently as the times of arrival in departure. There are merely suggestions now. Today was, today was quite different. You get what you get and you don't throw a fit. Or you can throw fit. I was very happy because like today was a good day because the driver, there was a driver because it was being paid for by Hulu. And so it was lovely not having to get an Uber at JFK. Did they sign up the, a sign up the door at the pickup? Uh huh. What did it say? Well, I mean a St. Heather's son? Um, come dump limited incorporated LLC. I go by my business name. Come dump concierge. Come. Come dump concierge. Worldwide. W-W-C. Um. Oh my god. Come dump concierge. Come dump concierge. Rich. Rich and famous. Have you been destroyed by fame yet? No, not yet. She painted me once. Painted by fame. I mean, now it's the plastic tiara makeover is like the sort of gold standard of, you know, like drag sort of dragification. But in our day, it was the Miss fame makeover. In our days. Oh my god. We are all bitch. In our day. You're right. What do you be doing drag for 20 years? Yeah. We have the authority to say in our day. We've seen it. Bum times and good times. We've seen them all. Am I doing it here? We're still here. You should paint pound cake, blank canvas and sender to plastic and fame and get her to do that. That's a good idea. Just prime her real good. Yeah, prime her. I'll use that Lady Gaga house labs. That's a good one that they use for pale brides. I see this blush placement on the little pound cake doll is, you know, it's not the apple of the cheek. It's really it's sort of the orange. It's painted. She draped it. It's more like painted by Esther. She's got the blush, the blush up by the eyeball. It's beautiful. I love it. Yeah. It's honey fawn gaffa. Our placement is very pointed right now though. Tony fawn gaffa. That sounds like a lovely baptism. I would go to Tony fawn gaffa. Tony fawn gaffa. Tony fawn gaffa. Cautain. Tony Cautain on the hood of a car. Let me feel my own. Do dye your hair. I tint it. If you can dye natural like yours, I'd be bald. Wait. You do. You get it like you get it blondeified. I'm guessing. Yes. Miss Crystal Summers from S4 in Dallas is also a whiz color. She does your coloring. She does my coloring, which also makes means I go to Dallas every like five or six months for work because I just do shows while I'm there. So then we. She does my color. She did my colors. That's why it's all my girls. No, your colors. No, your fabrics. I can't. You're going to go blonde. I can't bear having long hair anymore. I just can't. It's too hard. Gina was just talking about it. Where are we going with this? What's the? What happens in a year? Where is that that going to be? What is that going to look like? Your hair. It will be down to here. It grows six inches a year. What am I supposed to do with that? Make it a very wig for a pug. I just don't know where it's going. I had cut off your hair and make a wig for pound cake. I had set out. I mean, it falls out so rapidly. I could make a wig just from what falls out of it. Okay, Christine Taylor on the floor in the in the craft. She deserved it. Is that movie? She deserved it. That character, not a nice lady. No. She didn't feed the birds. She fed low birds and left several crumbs. I'm going to cut my hair. I think it's just going to happen. Cut my hair. I can't stand being a mutant anymore. I just can't. It's too difficult. Christine Taylor was also the one that said cut my hair and slapped me. the guy and Brady Bunch too. She definitely went through some hair associated roles. I love Christine Taylor from Playing Melody in Hey Dude. She is and was the most beautiful girl in the world. Like she imprinted on me as the most beautiful girl on Earth when I was a very young child. But also she was Parker Posey's role in Party Girl when John Cameron Mitchell was the best friend in it instead of Guillermo Diaz. Really? Yeah. Wait, what's Guillermo in it? But Party Girl became a TV series on Fox for like a season after the movie. And it was Suzy Kurtz instead of the blonde librarian lady, old lady. It was Suzy. Suzy. Suzy. Suzy. Shwaysy. The Fawn. Fawn. Hoopla. Hoopla. Fawn. And Fawn. I think the emphasis on La. Hoopla. Hoopla. Hoopla. Hoopla. Yeah. Coco Marshall, we almost started talking about her and I would like to talk about her. So you were in traffic. You were stuck in traffic like Angelina. And in the meantime, I had purchased the live stream ticket of Coco Marshall's debut show at the lower beach from here. So I've been watching that video on demand. And what a talented young person. I mean, it's, it's, I'm just, she's really got it. You know, you can't really tell from a single clip that went viral. It's like maybe she's just like, maybe she's just a copycat or like she can really like imitate really well. But no, she's really got it. She's really got talent. And I'm excited to see what becomes of her fucking career. Cause what a brilliant young woman. Well, listen, I know that I've been very inspired by the great self gun before me, such as you mostly Courtney act, because Courtney act did start feeding the birds. And then I wrote, I want to feed the birds. She said, no, these are my birds. She feed the birds. I've written her story with her red hair. The lyrichets. Yeah, she's been feeding the birds. Courtney, if you're listening to this, you need to do feed the bird lyrichets, which I think I think she stopped feeding them because no, she just fed them running her home. She, well, girl, she, she gets run through like that by the birds. Who got bird, uh, Courtney, she fed him yesterday. If you're hearing this, Courtney, if you're here, flick your lighter. If you can hear us, you need to go out and feed the birds, but then use the audio of Coco. The birds while you're feeding the birds. Have you done this? If you haven't, please stop what you're doing and do it immediately. I think if she does this, she'll get on all stars. Maybe they'll let her host us what they've been waiting for. They just want her to be very more like socially with it, conscious like that, you know, and they're waiting for to piss clean, I think. Hey, we're going to take a break. Oh, but do we have a rainbow spotlight? Oh, is it Coco Marshal? We do have a rainbow spotlight. Oh my gosh. Coco Marshal, but do check out Coco Marshal, uh, velvet orbit by Gerard Peters featuring Adrian Ross. I want to hear those like to hear it. Here it comes. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. If you could wake up tomorrow and be better at one thing, what would that be? For me, I think it would be mini golf. 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I went to the Hulu ween Halloween party last week. I dressed as Wendy, Wendy Williams. Was Christina Aguilera there? Maybe. I was in there the whole time. I was just there for judging the costume contest and then stealing prizes. Oh yes, I remember. Yes. I think of that all the time. Oh wait, I remember that. That was like it was really cool. That was back when corporations used to give money to drag queens. They stopped, but they used to. I just saw something that Laverne Cox posted. She said 90% of her income is gone from when it was popping for her and she said if 90% of Laverne Cox's income is gone, imagine how bad it is for the other trans and non-binary creators out there. My perspective always even with all of that because there was a time where it was booming where it was like you would get a brand deal from Target or you'd get a brand deal from this brand or whatever. It was really booming. Now it is contracted. Now the boom's in the shot. The boom is re-shoot. Do something. But I always looked at that as Like that's extra money the real sort of like I think the ground the ground water or the what what is the phrase? I'm thinking of the Sort of the fount the well spring of our were the rum spring a zephyr hill. I'm a drag queen I am a drag queen and I and that is my shoe and proud and honored and lucky to be a fucking drag queen and so I like to foster my community our community you know foster freeze that far ahead if the if the big corporations want to throw us money in a few years and that starts to become fierce again for them great but I will always be there with my community and your baby show being an example for that baby so she keeping my babies keeping keeping all your babies except Nebraska I keep my baby Nebraska Nebraska when's the last time you don't show with your baby when's the last time I haven't done a show with her but we you have to let some time go by so that it's a big deal when you do like you know the DWV okay or whatever this new girl group is that you're starting I've heard the industry what I heard there's been chatter there's been chatter I have heard who's the who's the who's the woman who was in charge of the pussycat dolls Robin Anton Robin Anton has been shopping around this new dynamic girl group so it's me William and some other girls it's me it's Jesse Nelson did you book other girl other girl other girls in it fuck but hopefully Jesse gets along with other girl I'm not sure if she will wait who Jesse who Jesse Nelson who else that sounds like a duo I mean I guess you could do a duo other girl Jesse Nelson and then Donnie and Marie I need to talk skinny girl so I'll go you and you're a detox you'll have to wait to see Michelle Williams the white one heart yeah heart also thought and papa do you have to be related to be they hate each other now no so heart related oh yeah yeah who else is related Donnie and Maria brother and sister Kaapai Lee and Danny were like together they were like a couple right yeah or he was a trafficker I really don't know the specifics of their relationship but you know what love did keep them together love love beautiful I will I will do a good song that is a Bob and a half I put that on music where did it go where did it go that was some fucking music are you doing any Halloween Halloween meetings I am drags are against that I am I have many costumes and I'm very proud of myself because one of is it good or a costume you know they're costumes costumes but they're also good or because I am doing three looks with one wig tell me about this okay because can you reveal the secrets yes earlier this year I had thought to myself well I'm going to do Mulan Rouge which would be me as Mulan but also as Satine and then we realized I couldn't do that because I'm not Asian and if I wear a kimono I'll be criticized that on your own I was going to tell you just I want to do the cherry blossoms I love cherry blossoms um Katy Perry but I realized I wanted to do one wig several outfits so I figured out three looks with one wig and it's the Jonathan Brandes Bob from Ladybugs which can also be Michelle Fiber I don't know how do you not give me a ladybug it's got Jackie and Rodney Dangerfield it's got Elvira from Scarface Michelle Fiber it's that Bob and then also if I put it on with some extensions in the back or stack it on a longer blonde wig it carries runway hair when she falls down so I have three costumes one one wig so it's a blonde Bob is what you're saying yes thanks I mean it's an Ashi Roberta because it is like it's like a light brown dark blonde yes so you're doing three looks one wig this is what it looks genius yeah I challenge every girl to do it stop buying new hair except if it's out Alfredo's wigs or wigs by vanity then you could buy some new hair but other than that you got hair we all got hair you in this red wig looking like Miss Fame when did this happen this was Halloween huh oh yeah that picture is from when Miss Fame and I were on tour together probably ten years ago did she paint you she didn't paint me that was my mug but we were like sharing a dressing room and I was like can I put on the thing and she let me put on the thing and that's her wig and that's her you know her out of this world cosmic glamour bodysuit I felt really fierce sick owning and who's distressed as pound cake I read the alien it's my mother oh is it yeah my mom went as pound cake the other year oh she's great I know she really does hey Pam hey Pam oh Halloween is so fun I can't wait to see what you do this year I don't know what to do I really don't I haven't thought about it it's in ten days I think you should pull out that red outfit that you wore for the finale and do a Victoria's Secret Angels you can blast angels of my dreams Jade song was played I'm not gonna do body this year I don't do body anymore nobody good but I'm choosing not to okay I just whoa it's too like I don't find it comfortable I find it very exposed and even like this sort of everyone's wearing like crop tops and like this and like I let's wear what you want to wear but I don't like having my organs exposed to the air when I'm just like out in the world that's happened to me this weekend I went to a pool party and it was like you couldn't wear a speedo and I was like well I don't want to go anywhere you got to be naked I was like I don't know any of these people and I already saw someone I don't like and then I saw someone that I did like name so I was like Rahim I gotta go but I'll see you in Palm Springs Rahim yeah we went I'm shy I don't like dress codes and you were describing this in the group chat with me in Courtney and I don't think it's fair or too out of clothing optional event mandate that everyone be nude guess what I don't want to date I just want to fuck them I bet everybody was wearing chains I bet they were wearing jewelry I bet they were wearing hats is this true that's that's that's I did see sneakers and some socks but like I don't I didn't see much so that's allowed but you're allowed to wear a skimpy little speedo what if I what if I was in a cock cage does that count that's clothing isn't it or I mean it's in excess mechanics accessories are clothing do you think I was just going to give them body bootball day no no you got to you got to pay for me to take off everything I'm not miss body boot punny well give them body for no it's more fun to have a little something on even if it is like a nudism party you know abandon what is your statement necklace category was body boot no you said clothing optional optional optional not clothing mandatory I don't think I don't think it stands up to the sort of nudism like credo or like the sort of traditions but the ethos the ethos yes of nudism is sort of not being ruled by the rules of like wearing this or that or the other it's it's the opposite of a dress and unless you have a white couch or if you're wearing dress code by ivy winters the exciting new fragrance that changes your style now that is a dress code I do like but if I go to a restaurant and they tell me and I'm wearing like a nice black tank top and I look really fierce and they say you can't you you can't wear that in here I it throws me into a rage but I yeah but someone could wear it if they were a female identifying but because they don't know what I identify as they don't know what I go to bed as they don't like with gas or solid pick one a mostly gas let's be honest can I tell everybody to go see Shashana being on tour real quick if they did you get to see her I did I went with Bianca to the Palm Desert show and she was sickening she did a song called hard woman to love and right after she did the the wicked Alfa Boref because she does this great fan request section where we get to yell out stuff because she was doing a lot of new stuff from her new album But she's like I'm not doing wicked to women got up to leave and then the first line of the song hard woman The love was like I hate to see you leave something about you go in and she was like bye Bye bye Like just yelling No, they were hitting it. They grabbed their jackets. I'm like, yeah hate that She's like love her Love her and she's in the lost boys now too. I was trying to get tickets to see midnight while I was in New York and They're all sold out so I wasn't able to and I was like let me go see the lost boys But you know what we also need to take a break. Can you message Tadric? I did but I don't want to be like hey give me a ticket No, but like they hold back how seeds like you can maybe even buy one And you could leverage the boots the pooh Don't bring that up. You know it's forward. I am not on the harp on something like that. I don't We're gonna play a harp while we go to this break But we do need to get a review so if you can get to see midnight we need to hear about it on the pod Yeah, definitely duh. When do I ever hold anything back? No, I'm just I would be excited to hear that What if I'm like the theater it was in had such beautiful seating It was where Titanic was so I know there's great seats, but um I'm Would you call these seats egg plan to Obe Jean? Shut up But it gives a shit about your Obe Jean Clary Let's take a break Oh I just want to look y'all Like um, yes, JLo and kiss to the spider woman Yes, they are writing in France I stand with and I support everybody all over Europe because they are standing up and saying you know What y'all are doing too much. It's bullshit, and we're not gonna do it anymore love it Stand with you support you And this is how I think real change gets made when the people at the top are this corrupt and this out of pocket I think that's what you got to do. We are talking about drag race UK You know it's the girls. The competition is a competition. That's what the girls said as they were sending home Miss Anita Piss wiping off her mirror message someone actually said the competition is a competition. So It's a competition. So And we learned that Agadu really goes down a treat in in Australia but lens but lens but lens resorts and spa and I was down a tray of buttons and smokeery I don't know Courtney Ags doing shows in but lens For the winter season after her bright and run at Blue Fairy at butlons doing agadoon. Doon. Doon. She's not doing Aggie. Doon Shadow tag dude because I thought this dog was about her the whole time. She needs to start doing it This could be her number put a put a 808 behind it Get Jody harsh on it remix it a little Last week Alec won the challenge and Naya Beat Anita in the lip sync um and Anita and those clear straps they're hitting it. They're kicking rocks down the street somewhere else Yeah, her clear sir double clear strap has kept her shoes on K-Wide K-Wide Kelly tells Alec to her face. She's like it's not giving confidence but rather arrogance love K-Wide he killed K-Wide Kelly Yeah, he's a control I love tell him that She I mean I love the girl and she is great excellent television I think she has a very good chance of winning this show as well I and I'm not saying I don't love her drag and I love her as a performer But she will be like she will punch you in the face and then she'll be like It's really wrong of you to punch someone in the face No, and she stands I did not punch anyone in the face. Let's be correct. No, I just said the fact Yours is a feeling. I hit you with my fist. That's different Close hand Slap it was not a push the girl, but yes the the confidence arrogance thing was so funny to me too It's like wait a second. She just want to challenge. She's like feeling good about herself and you're telling her You need to call me down loves. She was so far left Like it was behind the third base foul line and in the stands. It was so far That I was like oh this is a bit and then I was like it's not a bit Did they cut did they cut out laughter after or something? It wasn't a bit though But these girls are doing bits on ghost hunties shit bits there and they do the reading challenge I want to know how many crayons they gave to the monkey writing this That's what I want to know because it's terrible the reading challenge first because I do want to talk about ghost hunties Okay So one of the good reads was You're like Megan Markle you have no chance of getting the That's funny that was good, but Alec one Alec was the one she's like Mar might you're in bread That's funny Why is Mar might in bread? It's like a spread that you put on sandwiches. Oh, it's on bread. It's not in bread That's why that doesn't make sense We put it in between two pieces of bread in bread Well, you don't know my carbon taste or maybe you bake it into bread. I don't really know what Mar might is Oh bake it into me Mocha These girls are doing maca maca. Sorry. These girls and other girl they get their names confused sometimes Alec has to sign the rules for ghost hunties because she won the reading challenge and Maca is a little flustered because the girls came for her about something that she was Not confident about either it was her hairline or teeth or her weight. I don't know something But that's what we do when we roast like Jane wasn't plain Jane what's her name Jane Jane don't other Jane wasn't Like this like hefty hefty dump sack on our tour for Australia But I did make a bunch of fat jokes about her because she was bigger than me So that's what you do you make fun of these girls that are your friends you're gonna make for money on TV And when the girls are good at drag and sickening you can't make fun of their drag So you have to just pick something else, you know, and sometimes it's a stretch and Sometimes that you know Is shitty. I think that you're talking about Courtney's talk Shitty talk Remember that nickel brown nickel I think that maybe Reading and snatch game are maybe an old fashioned Tradition and like I don't I don't know that the newer girls really get down with being like Let's say mean shit to each other for fun. I feel like maybe they don't we can start now I don't know though because I I did a show with Mikey Meeks recently and she's very She's very funny and she'll like she'll give it to the girls, you know, she'll So it is she's a very much an old school girl though. She's from Orlando. She's thrown pageant. She's a she might be the last of the old schools I think it's just a difference in like I think this sensibility is different now. It's like I think the things you can make fun of and the sort of severity you can make fun of in a reading challenge or a roast I think are very different than they used to be ghost hunties This was written by a room full of cats walking on typewriters It turned out pretty good You know what you know let me say something nice about this. I didn't see many green screen bleeds. It was lit very cohesively They didn't do it on green screen. They did it in the work. Oh exactly I thought it was acute cutesy It was a cute premise. I like that they were in the workroom and being like oh this room is haunted. We're exploring it I thought that was a really interesting premise Uh, I don't think they really went above and beyond by any means as far as like hilarity No, and it was all shot on one plane. It felt like a 2D version of what something good could be If the writing was better, I just found it very um I found it very rote I almost wish the girls were allowed to make it their own a little bit or felt like Felt anal Yeah, felt the libel to do that because I think it would have been a little funnier than if they since they just did what was on the page. It's like we know we're not doing Ibsen here. Like this isn't the Bible. Shame. Well, it was it would have been a doll's house. It was Paris baby was there. That's for sure. But I have a question in the way that they gave my season my season my season we had a song and we got to change like one verse if they gave these girls these scripts and said change one thing I think it would do something silly and funny and a character imbued each sketch with the the trunus of each girl's character as a queen and it would have made it personalized and it could have like I mean I these roles were kind of written for these girls like K wise you could tell that was hers probably but like I feel like just going off the page and not lending your own creativity and your own point of view of why you're there on in there like in with the writing like the SNL writers collab with the SNL performers and I think this would have been more successful if they allowed the girls to write a little bit to agree. Michelle Visage as a director she is not against giving a line reading. She's like things that make your asshole quip state like this things that make your asshole quiver say exactly like that okay okay better yeah but she's not against the line reading as a dress she has these girls best interested hard just like actually no it's called beaches drop a can I know um anyway I I I would never say anything bad about Michelle because I love her and she's the one that helped me to start moisturizing my face and I'm so glad I did that because looking back 13 years ago Michelle I can't get anything bad about her I just changed my life she was I just don't want you to slander her on our podcast okay because this is a reputation of us your behavior your behavior is going to get us all in trouble and it's going to take us all that make your asshole quiver um when when you rub a cactus up against it that'll that's the thing that will make right are we playing password things that make your asshole quiver you don't you don't buzz Betty White she's a legend um RuPaul is a legend and on the runway she's giving a butter cup yellow dress with a blue accent this feels like a ceramic design it's so beautiful Zaldi really did his thing and this hair wind blown love it she's love it cute all right and you can see a little bit of that pussy panty and it's color coordinated and so I appreciate that puss puss puss puss puss puss what do you think it is category what would you have done for torn this way I would have done a giant apesiatomy I would have done Natalie and Bruglia delusion nothing's right you're torn you're so smart I thought I saw a pound cake come to life she was mean she spit on people and then she tripped some guy I mean it would have been actually torn I think some of the girls were shredded and it was like all the pieces were uniformly torn and to me it's like I think that there is a sort of randomness there's a sort of raggedness that was missing from some of the girls looks so you wanted the girls to be more raggedy yes how's that usually too I think I think coral whole Mandy had a really cool dress and idea but it it was giving me sheared less torn a lot of I understand that every it was maybe torn but fleshers outfit was that torn it was like when the bobbin gets tangled in the machine in the tail this string goes except that happened one million times I mean her outfit was exquisite it was a beautiful reference to you know a fashion moment and she wore it well and it was exquisitely made I don't know that I would call it torn but it was like just it was in the distress sort of world would you would you maybe consider going as someone who kind of looked like Judy Garland with one tought of hair and then you could be torn a tought kind of looks like blonde liza the lipstick song should have been torn by Natalie and Bruglia but it was it was a fabulous song by Jade I am the eight girl honestly nia thorn I think her look was the most in the brief of torn because it was like oh I'm wearing an outfit and it has been torn you can see the tearing parts that actually hit the brief the most to me nia is always together never not and she deserved this badge and then she got the lip sync for the win I think she getting cocky it was she getting confidence arrogant arrogant might arrogant um nia killed this icaro lip sync and choral whole mandy had the one of the most severe cases of long bottom syndrome that I've seen in a while because her crotch of her tights was nearby her knees it was the long bottom is what happened what happened right now she took off that gown she said oh I'm gonna dance she didn't know that her tights were down around her knees honey when you are in drag for a long time especially if you're doing some low slung show in your stomach kind of thing you your pads scoots down now in order to take that off and have the pads being the right place you would have had to go and completely replace them like give them a good yank you would again you would have had to hold your skirt open while someone else did it for you yes take down a few pairs of pantyhose yank up the pads where they belong then put the pantyhose back up it's a whole system she did not have time to do that and she just was in the lip sync and so she was running around trying to be it like a sexual sensuous like victim but she didn't know that she wasn't giving that right and the line of the tights why would you take off your skirt if you had a line of tights right there like you need to cut it and then loop it under your gooch so it's like a vagus show where at least where there's like a V because that straight line across gives brick you need to angle it brick belly you want your belly not brick you need to angle that line as she could you know what I mean though about you about the the line of the tights though right where you have to like you wear a high waisted black panty I mean if you're gonna like if you can walk in the day and show your belly button go ahead but if you can't you better high waist that shit yeah this this is not how you dance around on TV with your with your garments all out she probably done better to just keep the gown keep it on keep it on and park and mark and be like I could do anything because the gowns and she knew that Naya was gonna win anyway so why didn't she at least look good while it was happening yeah how you know to lip sync against the bitch who's dressed like a fucking ninja and a fucking literally dress like an emperor who could run around and fucking do cartwheel splits climb the building she did the little Edward's leg thing she did the wait who did the shotgun move original she did oh it was um shotgun was who shot James peppermint peppermint yeah who's after peppermint I I'm doing a show with if you're listening to this on Friday I'm doing a show at Soho House with peppermint and a live band so come on out what what what where I do shows to Mary in New York in New York New York City at Soho House I am the intro I'm the intro this week I'm doing press for my new hulu show on my TV you know how I guess you know how I guess it's all very lucky Naya Thorne one I also want to shout out flushes necklace for being an absolute audio nightmare when they walked back into the work room and they were grabbing their drinks it was like clink clink clink clink clink clink clink her just what her just clang clang clang when her necklace it was that those audio engineers they must have drinking problems I mean it is the most difficult job to rig a mic into like you have one girl wearing two pieces of fucking tucking panty and she's like that's all I'm wearing where you gonna put my mic you have another girl wearing fucking chain mail the girls are gonna be doing some makeovers next week enjoying the season love it um I want I love that they're playing Jade songs because Icarol is such a great lip sync and they played it for Kylie Jenner to walk down the the runway for the million dollar bra thing too which I haven't seen I proudly never seen an episode of the Kardashians so I don't really follow Kylie but the bra seem nice I guess it is nice bra I mean I like Brittany's Mackie bra much better like I thought that million dollar bra kind of look cheap with like the diamondy fringe hanging it looked a little it looks like the one you get to on it, say on T, you get it. - Yes. - It's been so stopper. Not saying that's bad, those are fears, but it doesn't look like a million dollars. It just looks like you overpaid for it. - Yeah. - It's not just a million dollars. I think it's a 50 million dollars. - I said what I said. - Listen, it was giving me a real Diamonds. - It was giving sales boobies. It didn't look rich. - Go down a tree to Putland's. - Why would he take a break? - He'll be right back. (soft music) - Ooh, that echo in this cave is crazy. - Oh my God, the acoustics in here. - Coco Marshall should sing songs in here. - Feed the cave dwelling by a luminous sheet. - She's trying to use to be mine for later. - Now I could go for some pie. So does Shoshana be. - Heart breaking, wonderful. She said, "Shoshana stays." - Yes. - I really want to see this Shoshana cut. She was just here too. - She's insolent and she's mean. She feeds birds. - She's got red hair. She lives in a tower in Sydney. She's a mean gay. Courtney Act used to be my friend. She's been this crazy. This is the moment where we go. - Spill up. - Spill up, spill up, spill up, spill up, spill up, spill up. (man laughing) - Good job. - Let's come from Sam. - From Sam. Dear Alaska Willem and Big Dipper. Long time listener and sender of a few emails over the year, over the year's Zah. On last week's episode of The Hot Goss, you were a bit perplexed by a clip of K.Y. Kelly on Drag Race U.K. As a native Brit, I'm here to translate and explain some of the quintessential working class holiday nostalgia for you. To confirm, she said, "Agedu went down a treat in butlins "and sowed it all." Here's a breakdown of what K.Y. meant. Agedu, a massively camp novelty pop song released in '84 by Black Lace that became a staple soundtrack well into the '90s and beyond. It features a famously silly dance routine and is the ultimate soundtrack to school discos, wedding receptions, and cheesy package holidays. Thanks, Jetsu, holidays, or Benadorm. I don't know what those are either. Butlins, a legendary chain of British seaside holiday resorts, think budget, family friendly, camps by the beach. They are famous for their red coated camp posts, red coats, holiday park entertainment, talent shows and a very specific brand of unapologetic, slightly tacky British fun. The joke, when K.Y. says, Agedu went down a treat in butlins and sowed it all. She's playing on the phrase went down a treat, meaning it was widely popular or well received. But when the double entendre went down, implying she was also going down on the holiday makers, if you catch my drift alling. I hope that clears everything up. Love to all of you and thank you for bringing laughter to all of our lives. Love Sam from Surrey in the UK with the fringe on top. PS, don't you think Cole or whole Mandy is reminiscent of season five era Alaska? Ooh, side by side. Survey says, yes, thank you, Sam. She has better clothes, better drag, and was way better than I was at that time. So good on her. I don't know. Good on the young woman. I really like Coral Hole. And thank you for explaining that. Courtney also gave it a go, explaining it in our group chat. But I love this really, this is a really good breaking down of what the fuck K.Y. Kelly was saying breaking down a tree, a little bitch. Breaking down goes a treat. She said I was a little bitch. Just kidding. Sad bridesmaid bitch, she said the tamaka. Anyway, she doesn't exist. It just comes from Charles. I request the floor ladies. Recently I took a little trip down memory lane and revisited one of my all time favorite albums, The Groundbreaking, frequently imitated but never duplicated access all areas. Has anyone ever imitated it? I don't know. A cultural milestone. Better have the masterpiece. Frankly, the Library of Congress should be involved. But there's something keeping me up at night since 2017. - Oh, help me see. - On the street that assaulted me for nearly a decade. A cold case, if you will. In the song "A Lace Front" like this, there's a lyric that goes, they stole Pandora's camera. Who stole Pandora's camera? When, where, was a police report filed? Were there witnesses? And most importantly, did Pandora ever get her camera back? I've spent years looking for answers. I've searched the internet. I've consulted Reddit, nothing. Not a single lead. It's as if the entire LGBTQ+ community has entered into some sort of witness protection program. So ladies, I'm bringing this case directly to people who wrote the lyrics. Was Pandora's camera actually stolen or have I spent the last nine years investigating a fictional crime since the LA Charles? Pandora had a bag stolen at a drag con that had, I think, all of her money in it and a camera. And she tweeted about someone stole my camera. Please return it. And we were writing, and it just ended up in there. They stole Pandora's camera. This is that way. Or a lace from like this. Like fucking drag songs. We would record songs that presumably would exist forever. And we would write about something that just happened to happen that week that we were just thinking about. And that was the fucking lyric that will forever live. And no one has remembered that, or that doesn't matter to anyone, but that doesn't remember it. You know, really doesn't remember the fucking lyric of that song. Whenever Courtney has a lyric in that song, that's who doesn't remember it. (laughing) Some bottoms topping Courtney. Actually, I'm late on that line a lot, so I don't remember that one sometimes. They stole a lace from a camera like this. That video is so beautiful. We look like fucking angel baby Valentine treats. - Angel in my dreams. - We would have done a treat in buttlands. - Period. - Gaffa was performing too. - The plot is the newest member of the girl group. - A hoopla is gonna be mad. - She is. - Who, listen, who played it and fit the costumes? - Listen, hoopla is really great. - She's gonna fill them out the way that the girls do. - Who played the movie and be in the mix for like the next time, but like it just wasn't her year, but honestly, hoopla or gaffa, it was just her year, you know? - Yeah, and her dog, her dog, Gizmo. - Gizmo. - It's hard to decor your with your service animal like that, especially when you put so much peanut butter into the mouth. - Let's read the next letter from the kitchen, please. - This girl group is gonna slap. Hello dear dolls and dip, long time first time, writing in because I've been wondering how it's been almost 20 seasons of Drag Race, and we still haven't had Tyra Banks guest judge or even honored on the show. There's so much overlap in production and there honestly wouldn't be a Drag Race as we know it without top model. Does Rue, not so secretly, hate Tyra? There's one tweet that comes to mind, I'll attach any insights. PS, Alaska, we'd love to having you for our virtual Oak Lash during quarantine. And this Halloween, we are putting together night of a thousand Mary Todd's at the legendary White Horse bar in Oakland in honor of Oh Mary coming to the Bay. We'd love for you to be a guest of honor. That's not that far. Attaching dick picks and fist picks and a flyer for priority boarding, love to everything you do. Be a tricks Lahane. - Someone tweeted, "Rue Paul is a better Tyra Banks than at Tyra Banks." And Tyra Banks replied, "And I am a better at RuPaul than at RuPaul." - That seems pointed, pointed at Paul. - I think there might be a little bad blood there, but I think they would like get together and work together if commerce dictated it. I don't think that either one of them would be like, so off put by the other that they wouldn't come together for some reason. - I don't know, you know that those, what's RuPaul with Scorpio? - I think. - Yeah, who knows. But these pictures of Beatrice, is that a dick? - This is knock me loose just looking at it. ♪ That let loose ♪ - Things to make you're all so quiver. - This is make my asshole run in the other direction. This is big, and I don't usually say this, but this is like a hateful club, yes. - This is like a sweet potato that got, like zapped by aliens, it's huge. And then he's got two fists in the guy. That's not how you get the tarnish off of your kind of labor. - It's like when they accidentally put like nuclear, nuclear runoff onto the crop fields in the Simpsons, and then they grew really huge things. That's what happened. to this dick. Yeah, I do like that. His bathroom is very clean. He's got two options for toilet paper. So are these her fists in this person? Honey, I don't know. Or is she the go to oak clash tonight of a thousand Mary Todd September. I don't know. So I don't know where they're going to call because she said I'm attaching dick and fist picks. Do you think she's that's her receptacle? I think those are her fists and she's like, yeah, look what I can do. And her other pictures, her arms look like that same tone. Her arm tone seems very pointed right now. I pointed up that guy's rectum. We're just going to need to get 30 seconds of arm tone. Just keep your fist in there. Don't move it. But if you were to take that dick, you'd have to be able to take a couple fists because it's probably that like an acquiff a lot like you it's one or the other, you know. This fist, this fist. Unquivirable. Thank you, Beatrix. Girl, you know, I can't do nothing except do the fucking show that I'm in. I can't be going to Oakland at night. I can't do things. But what if you run around and scream on stage? What if you let her do this like 50 performance at Oak Lash and you did a fist from a rose? You could be. But you dress up as a seal and you can go during the during the parts that there aren't lyrics just so because there are seals in San Francisco. You could do the whole song in seal. And then Coco Marshall will come out and feed the seals. What do they feed seals? Like Taurus fish. Oh, Tulapia. Fashion. You guys like fresh Tulapia. Do you want to do a sound healing? I'll then I'll come to my healing. Looks like we got some fresh fish up in here. A gonja. Well, I didn't exactly call like a man. Sushiro. Sushiro. Send us your letters. We want to hear from you. So email us at [email protected]. And we might just read your letter on the motherfucking error. Thank you so much for listening to big. You know what? Your daughter can call you a bitch. I called you a little bitch. Please don't get a twisted. Your daughter is right there and you're using that kind of blue foul language. I said you actually learned a little fucking bitch. I didn't call you a bitch. That part when I when I did when I heard that I was like, oh, you are some mathematicals right now, girl. You are just I hate that. Yeah, using your words for division instead of unification. That's not me. Not me. But you are TV again, aren't you? You are on a Disney corporation. I'm a Disney princess. Nobody. They put Disney right under my feet. I am a Disney princess now on the poster. Did you see that poster? Did you sick me gorgeous, beautiful Disney. Thank you so much for listening to this episode of God God. I remember taking a moment to write rating and write a review and a shout out to all of our mom plus gold subscribers who are listening to this episode ad. Oh, there I am. See Disney princess. It says Disney and then I'm right there. That's it girl. Pretty girl. Pretty girl princess. To sign up for mom plus and mom plus gold, please visit patreon.com slash mom plus. Are we boring you do? Oh, yes. We're boring you with my Adry. Shall I spice it up? Shall I sign up for mom plus and mom plus gold at patreon.com slash rom plus. Yes. Well, I'm just said that. I was a big attention. Follow me. Follow us on Instagram. @ will about the only laska five thousand at raise jacer proud and at mom podcast. Stay safe out there everyone and we will be back next week. Okay. Oh, good girl. And aboard you, huh? We will be back next week with another staming. Bye, thanks. I'm serving you. Oh, gosh. I've got staming up. God. Oh, mom. 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Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The podcast discusses drag culture, including behind-the-scenes humor, drag queen experiences, and community dynamics.
  2. It highlights a deep dive into the meaning of a viral drag race lyric, explaining "Agedu went down a treat in Butlins" as a British cultural reference to a popular holiday and dance song.
  3. The hosts explore drag queens' personal stories, such as career challenges, fashion choices, and the emotional impact of being in the spotlight.
  4. A recurring theme is the importance of community and self-expression, especially in the face of industry shifts and cultural criticism.
  5. The episode includes promotional content for Progressive Insurance, BetterHelp, and Quince, linking personal growth and lifestyle choices to financial and emotional well-being.
  6. There is a discussion about the evolving nature of drag competition, including audience reactions, roast culture, and creative limitations in challenges.
  7. The hosts reference real-life events, such as drag queens’ performances, fashion choices, and social activism, emphasizing authenticity and personal truth.
  8. A central narrative revolves around the idea of "feeding the birds" as a metaphor for community support, care, and shared joy in drag culture.

Summary:

The podcast blends drag culture, personal storytelling, and humor to explore the lives and experiences of drag queens. It begins with a cultural breakdown of a viral lyric referencing the British holiday tradition at Butlins and the song "Agedu," highlighting how drag fans use pop culture to connect. The hosts share personal anecdotes about drag performances, fashion, and the emotional challenges of being in the spotlight, including moments of self-doubt and community support.

They also promote financial and wellness services like Progressive Insurance, BetterHelp, and Quince, tying personal growth to everyday choices. The conversation touches on the evolution of drag competition, including criticism of roast culture and script limitations, while emphasizing authenticity and self-expression. A recurring theme of "feeding the birds" symbolizes care, community, and shared joy.

The episode ends with a call to action, inviting listeners to engage with the drag community and reflect on personal values, all wrapped in laughter, nostalgia, and heartfelt connection.

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This is a British phrase where 'went down a treat' means something was very popular or well received. In this context, it’s a playful reference to a fun holiday experience at Butlins, a classic British seaside resort.

The lyric 'they stole Pandora's camera' is a fictional or humorous reference often used in drag songs, symbolizing a playful or exaggerated story rather than a real event.

Traditions like the 'reading challenge,' 'roast,' and 'ghost hunties' are common, where queens perform, roast each other, or engage in themed challenges to entertain and build camaraderie.

Names like Gefa and Hoopla are used as drag personas, often inspired by creativity, personal identity, or cultural references, reflecting a fun and expressive aspect of drag performance.

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