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[MUSIC] >> From Vanity Fair, I'm Mark Adouchi, and I want to tell you about their new show Fair Game. On every episode of Fair Game, I'll sit down with a leading character in our culture, from the worlds of Hollywood, politics, style, Silicon Valley, and beyond. Fair Game is a deep dive into some of the personalities that shape our world, and the stories that you need to hear. Think everyone and everything that you'd read about in the pages of Vanity Fair. So join me, Mark Adouchi, on youtube, vanityfair.com, and wherever you listen to podcasts. It's all Fair Game. >> Hey everybody, it's me, Debbie Camabell. This season on my podcast, who's with me, I speak with actor, rapper, producer, Davi Diggs. What does need to? The jump off for me was Hamilton, and it was the most popular thing in a very long time. But it was still for me, it was me and my friends making something dumb. I'm a relatively shy person, play a lot of boisterous characters. I'm really that way in life. >> Listen to who's with me with Debbie Camabell, wherever you get your podcasts. >> I used to dress up as Martha Stewart, and do Martha Stewart living in my home. So the fact that when I came out to my parents, they were shocked, they were floored. I'm like, you, mom, you bought me the mini Martha Stewart wig. Look, what are you talking about? Like you? >> Oh my God. >> Whatever, anyway. [MUSIC] >> Okay, okay, hear me out obsessives. Ever since I saw one of those, is it cake videos? I can't turn it off. I look at my shoes and I think, is it cake? I look at my dog, and I think, is she cake? The remote could be cake. This microphone might be cake. Welcome to OMG Obsessed. I am Sasha Mammott. And today, I have got the man responsible for my is it cake obsession? You might have seen him on YouTube with the try guys, or maybe you've been knee-deep in his reels wondering how he makes a cake that actually looks like a crate of oranges. Seriously, how did he do that? >> Please welcome Johnny Cakes. >> OMG Obsessed. [MUSIC] >> Hello. >> Hey. >> Thank you so much for having me. >> Are you kidding? Thank you for coming. I was going to show you that I went fishing and I found a Chihuahua, but she doesn't want to play. She doesn't want to play. >> Okay, I'm glad you're saying this. No, because my dog is sitting right next to me, she's chewing on one of his chew toys. And I'm so nervous he's going to be a menace, so I'm like praying that he doesn't bark today. >> First of all, there's no such thing. He's an angel no matter what. He is an angel. >> He's an absolute angel sent from heaven. What's his name? >> Mm-hm. You want me to show you him? >> Yeah, no, obviously, I would like to see your dog. Hold on, I'm going to try it. >> Cornbread. >> Frankie. Frankie, come here. Come here. Cornbread, he's mad that I took him away from his Chihuahua. Cornbread, say hello. Say hello to our new friend. >> Oh, my God. >> Okay, so Cornbread's the love of my life. You know how? >> Here we go. >> You know how? >> Dog people are like, oh, my God. What a precious angel. Hang on, they need to meet. >> This is Frankie. Okay, I know, she's mad that I took him away. >> Cornbread, let go. >> You can't eat on camera. >> I know, I know. This is what we're playing with because she thinks she's a cat. >> That is so cute. >> Yeah, so you can stop eating for two seconds. >> Angel. >> He's a good boy. No, no, no, no, no, that's a wonderful phone. >> I know, I know. Frankie, they're both like, mom, dad, put me down, please. >> I know. >> Yeah, okay. >> They're crazy. >> Well, I feel like we could talk about dogs forever. But I want to get to the things you're obsessed with. But I also, I like to open the show by talking about something I'm obsessed with about you. >> Oh, you're sweet. Yeah, please. >> Okay, well, I mean, obviously many things, including the fact that you make cakes that like, it like upsets my eyes and brain a little how realistic they are. But you worked at Cold Stone. >> I worked at Cold Stone. So I, along with every other 15-year-old homosexual in my hometown, worked at Cold Stone. It was the place to be. We loved being there. We loved mixing the ice cream singing the songs. I created a flavor that I wasn't supposed to create. I posted it on the board. I got fired for stealing gummy bears at Cold Stone. And I still hold a bridge against, yeah. >> Are they like counting the fucking gummy bears? >> They were. >> No, no, no. Stop it. >> So, okay, so our boss, the owner of this franchise, was sort of a menace. He was one of these people. He hired a bunch of teenage kids. I think the age that you could work in Michigan at that time was either 15 or 16. I must have been 15. So I must have been 15. And it was my first job. And he just would intimidate us. He was like a menace. It was kind of crazy how he spoke to us. And in retrospect, I'm like, he was a grown man and we were all children, but whatever. Anyway, one day I was eating gummy bears and I get a call. And he's like, "Hey, I'm watching you over the video feed. Did you pay for those gummy bears?" And I was like, "Uh, yeah?" And he's like, "Great. When I'm in, next, I'm going to check the register and make sure you paid for them." >> Stop. >> And I went up to my manager. I was like, "I'm going to get fired. So I think I'm going to quit right now. I want to get ahead of it." And I just walked out and never went, like, that's fucking crazy. >> I know. I remember thinking like, you're picking on a child. Like, what are you doing? And now I'm like, that's really, it's even a crazer now. But anyway, I wasn't that good at my job to be honest. So I probably should have been fired. >> Also, how could he be that he was just like watching you eat gummy bears? >> Totally. >> Like, was he just like, was he just sitting there eating gummy bears himself? Like watching the live feed of you guys mixing ice cream? That's the setting. >> Yeah. Yeah. Him and his wife were one of those like couples that really like, they were like the villains of the movie. You know, everybody was scared of them. >> I got that. Okay. I think I know the answer to this question. >> Yeah. >> But I have to ask everybody, do you think that you are an obsessive person? >> So, to put it mildly, yes. I am so, I get so obsessive about certain things. And I have these waves of obsessions, right? So like, I'm kind of all in or all out. I'm somebody who, if I don't like something, I really don't like it. But if I like something, I love it. My friends make fun of me because they do an impression of me. This is my friends doing an impression of me. Wait, you guys, no, you have to try this new restaurant. No, it's the best. Are you kidding me? It's the greatest meal I've ever eaten. They're like, you went to Chipotle. No, it wasn't. >> I want to get into your first obsession. >> Please. >> Also, this is something that I literally was just discussing, saying, I need to implement this into my life. Game nights. >> Okay. Love a game night. Love a game night. I think we are under utilizing game nights in society. >> Yeah. >> So, here's my feeling about a game night. I don't care that we are not playing for real money or any money or any prizes or anything like that. It is simply just the joy and the desire to win is enough. It is the most, it is the most, I cannot tell you how excited I get when someone either we plan a game night or I'm with some friends and they go, hey, do you guys want to bust open a board game? I'm like, yes, say no more. That is exactly what I want to do. I just think it's funny to have a table of a full grown adults playing a game, like a board game or a card game or whatever and acting like it is the most important thing in the world. It actually reminds me of like acting school where like you talk about stakes and like your objectives. It's ridiculous. It is a ridiculous thing to want to beat my friends badly in a round of code names, but I can't help it. I just do. It is like it really is like another dimension of life. I can't imagine like I'm not a gambler, but I imagine this might be what it feels like to like win a jackpot and a casino when I win a game against my friends. I also think they've mastered games these days. I grew up with a lot of fun games. We have monopoly. We had candy land. I get it. But like games now are a little bit more social. And actually my boyfriend writes cards against humanity cards. Oh my god. He's a comedy writer. And so I love that because he'll read me like what he's working on. I'm like, oh, I can't wait to play that deck of cards against humanity. It's You don't take drugs out, you know. - Incredible. - The fact that. that he writes games is like, it's the perfect match for me. Like when I remember on like one of our first dates, him telling me that and I was like, I, this is it, this is it, baby, let's love this time. - Absolutely done. So I feel like you've already answered this, but are you competitive? - So I need, okay, I, let me tell you something. I, during, during COVID like lockdown, I played a game of like, it was called a quarantine survivor. So it was like survivor, like the reality show, but like on our home computers. - Okay. - And when I got voted off the island for three days, for three days, I was in a state of depression. Thinking, I remember being in the shower the next morning being like, what if I hadn't done this or what if I hadn't told this person that someone so had the immunity idle? Like it just destroyed me. And then I was telling my friend this and he was like, it was a game of Zoom survivor. Like, don't let this affect your life. I'm like, but it's real. It's real to me, you know? So yes, I'm very, I'm extremely competitive and, and hey, listen, like I, I'm not proud of it. Okay, I'm not proud of the things I've said. I'm not proud of the board games I flipped over, you know, in a fit of rage. But, but I'm, it's who I am, you know, I, I am who I am. - Abby, who you are? It is you. Are you competitive? - You know, I'm not competitive. I'm really not, but I sort of feel like I should be more, because I think that like, I think it kind of, it means that you care, like you're invested in it. I do, I love a game and I enjoy winning. I think I'm discovering that actually there's like, a competitive nature that lives deep within me. It's sort of like a fire that burns bright, but it's been like someone made like a, they like, did you watch, did you watch Widow's Bay? - No, no, I have to, everyone's telling me about it. - It's so fun. I just watched it. It was so much fun, but they were talking about this guy and they were like, they had to like, put him in a basement and then they like, cemented over the basement. And like, I think my competitive nature was like, put in a basement and someone cemented over it. And I'm like, it's like poking out at times. But I do feel like, you know what they say? When you travel with someone, you like really get to know them. Like that's kind of like the, especially like for a relationship or something, that's like kind of the litmus test. I feel like it's also that way with games. Like I remember the first time I ever played a game with a buddy of mine who is like, one of the more soft spoken people I've ever met in my life. And we'd been friends for years. 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So join us every week on the New Yorker radio hour, wherever you listen to podcasts. On all of it with me, Alison Stewart will talk about art, music, theater, literature, history, food. Well, all of it. Here in-depth insightful interviews with authors like Zadie Smith, musicians like Steve Earl, actors like Kate Winslet and Beyond. You never know who you'll hear next on all of it, but it's always worth listening. That's all of it, available wherever you get your podcasts. As someone who is an aspiring gave-night host, what are the games that we're playing, what do we need? Like, I'm going to give you some good racks. I need to run down. They're, first of all, they're all my favorites are right there right now. It's a shine. It's a literal shine. I have wavelength back there, which is a really fun one. Okay. wavelength is basically you have to like get, you get a, it's too, I'm sorry, it's too hard to explain. I'm not going to explain it well. It's too hard to explain, and it's going to, you're going to be like, what? But search wavelength, people play it on Tik Tok a lot, and it's really fun. - Fantastic. - There's chameleon, which is a lying game. And what? - What? - Let me, okay, if there's one thing I love more than board games, it's lying games. I love, I love when someone's lying and you don't know who it is. And it's one of those games. Basically, everybody knows a word except one person. And you're all trying to act like you know what the word is. - Okay. - It's, some people call it imposter. That's another one you can search online because people play it on, weirdly people play it on Tik Tok a lot. But like, basically you have to lie and pretend you know a word. And you can't be outed. It's, I'm describing it poorly, but it's so much, it's a fun game where someone's always lying and you have to, and then you're like, wait, is my friend lying to me right now? Because if they are, they're too good of a liar. Like I don't like that. Like my boyfriend was the chameleon, which means they're the imposter, the liar one around. And he lied so well that I question my relationship with him. - Oh no. - 'Cause I was like, okay. That's a fun thing, right? In the way that like, traveling with someone reveals all of these things about like the dynamics of a friendship or relationship. - Yeah. - Like do you feel like, because game nights kind of like bring out the worst in people? Like are people breaking up after a game night? Or-- - I think, I think you should definitely, I don't know if people are breaking up after a game night, but I definitely think that if you're about to marry somebody, you should have at least one game night with them. Because you're right, like that is really where your like, nasty aside comes out. - Yeah. Like you want to see how they interact with you and others at a game night. - 100%. Yes. And my last game night, at my last game night, which was just a week or two ago, I had just filmed a YouTube video where I ate every flavor of Ben and Jerry's ice cream. And so my freezer don't even get me started. And I'm lactose intolerant, so it's a whole thing. - Oh, my God. - So I had lactose pills, so it was fine, I was fine. But my freezer was packed with Ben and Jerry's. So my friends came over, we played games, and they got to go into my freezer and just pick their favorite flavor, and we all had our own pint of Ben and Jerry's. And I mean, I was looking around, I was like, sorry, if this isn't heaven, I don't know what this is. This is it, this is it. - Where you going? - So I recommend if you're, if you're going to host a game night and I think you should-- - Okay. - You should get good snacks. - Yeah, okay. - You should have a plethora of games. - Okay. - And you should have games that are easy-- Games that don't take forever to explain. You know? - Yeah, okay. - You know those games where it's like, I can't be bothered. - Like you're doing three practice rounds, and for people to be like, okay, I think I finally got it. - Exactly, exactly. - How, I have a couple of questions. How many games are we playing in a game? Like how much time am I allotting for game night? And are, is it better or worse? Are we flying people with alcohol? Or is it like-- - Mm-hmm. Like, what's the over-under on that? - I actually think a game night does not require alcohol because the stakes are so high, and you're so, you're so like-- - The stakes are so high. I just imagined you over like a clue board being like, this is it. - No, no, no, like thank you for calling me out. I need to be put in my place. The stakes are not, the stakes couldn't be lower. - Someone's offering you a glass of wine, and you're like, I need a clear head for this. - Take it away, take it away, give me another glass of water. Does anybody have any gatorade? I need a lecture later. - Exactly, good. Although you have a friend who gets, if you have a friend who gets mean when they drink, you really don't want to be having alcohol, because it's already gonna get mean. - I've already been called a cunt, so, you know what I mean? - Yeah, exactly. - Game nights, okay, game nights preferably dry. Okay, understood. - No, no, no, sorry, sorry, not preferably dry. I, in fact, at the Ben and Jerry's game night, I made a frose, 'cause I have like a slushie maker, and that was really fun. So we had frose, and we had, the other things you have to understand, I'm a professional baker, but I make cakes that look like other objects, which like, those are not cakes I'm like trying to feed people. I think they can taste delicious, but that's not like where I shine. So, on my off time, what I like to do is I like to, I like to really go full marks with schoolwork. Like I really want, like when my friends come over, I want to bake the most delicious cake. It doesn't have to look beautiful, but I want it to be the most delicious. - So good. - Or I want to do a fun drink or, you know what I'm saying. - Yeah, yeah. - Anyway, so alcohol is not required. There needs to be, you need to a lot, four hours minimum, okay, four hours minimum, because games take more time. The time, I'm just like so humiliating. Time flies by. - He works for big game. That's what we've, yeah. - I work for big game, yes, it works. - Yep, that's right. This is an absolute, just like quick tangent. But, so I'm sure I am 1 1,000th as good as you, but I like to bake. And I am convinced that Martha Stewart lies in her recipes because she doesn't want anybody to be able to do it as good as her. I've never made a Martha Stewart recipe that I have not had to the next time I did it, augment in some way. Because like, the temperature was a little off or like the amount of butter or whatever. And I think it's on purpose. - Okay, listen, I'm in dangerous waters right now because I don't want to talk bad about the woman who raised me, oh, by the way. - All hail. - No, no, no, I know, I know. By the way, I used to dress up as Martha Stewart and do Martha Stewart living in my home. Like, what are you talking about? Like you? - Oh my god. - Whatever, anyway. - That's fucking incredible. - So I can send you the video, it's insane. No, it's like insane, but anyway. - No, I would very much like to see that. - Like a 10 year old, like fully recreating full episodes of Martha Stewart living. I was crazy. So, where were we, oh, right, you asked about, yeah. So here's the thing, I don't know, I don't know about Martha Stewart. I'm gonna be honest, I don't bake a lot of Martha Stewart. - Oh, okay. I thought you were gonna say you're one of those people who doesn't bake with a recipe, but you're also gonna say that. - Oh, no, no, no, you have, sorry. Anyone who doesn't bake with a recipe is crazy. I've got to know a lot of, it's insane. But there are, I've gotta be so careful. There are chefs and there are entertainers. - Ooh. - And I would maybe recommend baking from some other people's books. (upbeat music) - Hey, it's Julia Louis-Dreyfus from The Wiser than Meat Podcast, among other things. And I've got a little holiday wisdom for you. Hosting during the holidays means lots of cooking, and that means your trash is gonna be full of smelly, rotting food yuck. So here's the wisdom. Get a mill food recycler. I did. We've had ours for years, and it has totally transformed our kitchen. It's unbelievable how much cleaner everything is now. Plus, it's so easy to use. You toss in basically any food you don't eat. Peels, pits, meat, dairy bones. Last year we put in a whole turkey carcass, really. While you sleep, mill automatically dries and grinds all your food waste down to about a fifth of its size. 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But it's always worth listening. That's all of it, available, wherever you get your podcasts. [MUSIC PLAYING] The adults in the room are telling me to ask about your other obsession, which I also want to know about because, A, I just bought a house that I need to furnish, and B, I'm also obsessed with vintage things. OK, so your second obsession is vintage furniture. It is, but I need to say I didn't realize you were a vintage furniture connoisseur, so I'm going to be like the novice here, and I really don't know what I'm talking about, but I will try my best. I don't know what I'm talking about. I'm just like, oh, I like that. So I, maybe two years ago, was looking around my home. And I would go up to pieces of furniture and touch them. And they just felt shitty, for lack of a better term. And nothing I had bought from-- nothing I bought from eight years earlier when I moved to LA was nice. And nothing I was like, if I ever have children, which I don't think I will have, but if I ever have to pass down my heirlooms to Cornbread. Well, to Cornbread, yeah. Right. He's going to have nothing of substance. It's all just junk. And I was like, this cannot stand. Like, I want nice things. I want nice things, and I want things that last. And so I started looking for vintage pieces. And there are so many great shops in Los Angeles. However, LA, it's like really expensive, which to me sort of-- It's not that's fun. No, no. And also, what I don't want is to be like-- I don't want this to become like a bougie thing. And in fact, I think this is like-- it should be like a more sustainable thing for everybody, because there are pieces that already exist that are sitting ready for homes. They do not have to be manufactured. And then I watch this vice documentary about the furniture-- how furniture is made now. And I basically wept, because it's so depressing. I was like, I'm going to really try to be conscious about what I am buying. So there's a great Instagram account called Hutch Vintage. And it's this woman who drives her van to Arizona every weekend, and then drives back to Los Angeles, post photos of things she's gotten. And they're always really cool wacky pieces. And she sells them for so cheap, to the point where I'm like, are you sure, like I feel bad about this? And then she includes delivery. And she's the most lovely woman. And it's very curated, because she has to fit everything in her van, but she's always posting new things. And you have to act fast. Like I had to set a notification for the Hutch Vintage account, because if you don't message her right away, you miss out on it. But she's really lovely. I just love going and finding pieces that have story behind them. I know that's also like, I love that there's a history if these walls could talk. But I really do love things that are maybe a little imperfect, but have charm and character to them. - 1,000%. Also, even if we don't know what the story is, I love imagining what the story could be. - Totally. - And I think there's something, well, speaking to the high of winning a game, or getting someone the perfect gift. like if I thrift something or I find something vintage that is like the perfect thing or really special, it is like a fucking shot in the arm. It feels like I've won the lottery. It's like it's so exciting. - It's the best. - And I do think, you know, I think it's interesting because it's something that can both be like, it's eco and it's sustainable, but it can also be like so fashion-forward. And I just think it's like, it's so much fun. - Yeah, yeah, for sure. - What's your favorite piece that you found so far? - Oh, that's a really great question. You know, I have a cookie jar that is like a baker. It's like this chef. I didn't find it, my friend found it, and it's like a vintage cookie jar. And growing up, I always loved cookie jars in movies and TV shows. And I thought it was so odd that like, I never saw cookie jars in real life. Like they were so rare. And I was like, I want a cookie jar and I want an old vintage cookie jar. So I went on this hunt to find just like the perfect cookie jar. And it was such a fun little, there's so many, there's so many old school cookie jars that are beautiful and ceramic and like precious because if one wrong move and you drop it and it shatter, sorry, I say one wrong move, I hit the mic, one wrong move and it shatters and it's gone, you know? - Yeah. - So I think I love my cookie jar. That's maybe too long to notice as somebody who's a baker, but. - No, I love that. There was a period of time. I'm a horseback rider, and I like, when I would have like a down week or something, sometimes I would bake because I'd be like bored and I'd want to bake, but like, you know, I'm not just gonna bake a shit ton of cookies and like sit at my living room and eat them all myself. So I would bring them to the barn. And then there was a period of time where I had a really grand idea that I was gonna find a vintage horse cookie jar to keep at the barn that I could fill with the cookies that I baked. And then someone pointed out that it was a horse barn and it would probably someone would break it within days. And then I was like, that you're right, that's a dumb idea. - It's a good idea in theory, but maybe not. - It's a good idea in theory, but you know what I did? I spent a shit ton of hours on Etsy looking at vintage horse cookie jars and let me tell you, there are some very good ones that I did not buy. - Well, maybe you should go in for your home. - I know, maybe I should get one for my home. Maybe I should get one for my home and have a horse cookie jar. Anyways, they made me a really cute little slide show that I actually had a fun time with of how much did this piece go for? And I did not do this well. Like I absolutely failed at this. - Very interesting. - Okay. - It's selling at a store in Los Angeles. How much do you think this couch sold for? - Okay, I think it's expensive. I think it is expensive. I'm not sure that it's 20,000 expensive. I'm shocked there's not like a 5,000 option. - I know, I know. - But I know that these sofas or these couches, these vintage, they go for a lot. So I wonder if 2100 is too low. I think for the sake of wanting it to be not $20,000, I'm gonna go with 2100. It should I guess, you want me to guess? - Yeah, you guess. - I'm gonna say 2100. - See, this is crazy. 'Cause I also thought I did the same thing. I thought that this would be like at least $5,000. The thing that's wild to me is that these couches for the most part do go, they're these sort of like not cushiony, kind of hard, very structured. Often the mid-century modern couches or the ones that are like so low that you feel like you're falling through the floor when you sit on them. - Yes. - And they're so uncomfortable and they, they caught, it'll be a love sea and it'll be like that's $45,000. And I'm like, I don't understand. - Crazy. - Okay, well good, that's a reasonable price. I feel like, I need that. Sorry, I need that. I need it, I don't even get it. It's, is it space or is it under the sea? - Okay, well this is, it's described as a space age ball chair, but it looks like it's a, okay, it could also, I would buy this as like a sea show. But doesn't it, what's the character in Alice in Wonderland when they're doing the walrus and the carpenter that's kind of evil? Is that giving this a little bit? - It's giving this and it looks like it's, if I sit in it, it's gonna eat me. - Totally, it looks almost like there's a hinge that can just like, - Right. - Sampy right up. - It's just gonna take, I mean, I wanna say $3,700. - I do too. - Because I'm jaded. - I do too. - Okay, I'll see. - No, no, I think so. - $3,75? - That's a steal, I need, now I need that. Now I'm just furniture shopping here today. - Now he's just actually furniture shopping, okay. What, Hollywood Regency Reverse, painted, what is it? Painting, okay, I'm not an expert on this and I could be totally wrong about this, but I believe this is a technique that is used on glass where they paint one side of it and then present the other side. So someone's painting backwards. I believe that's what this is. And I believe these are very expensive. - Okay, that, to me, feels like way more trouble than it's worth, like why are we, it's like, or you could just paint it. Like why are we doing. - I agree, but I think it's so that the paint doesn't chip off on the surface that you're like eating on a rest. I don't know, I actually don't know what I'm talking about, but that's a guess. - No, I believe you, I know nothing of this. So, okay, so are we going with, are we going with 30 grand for the stable? - I think, I think it might be 12. Ah, I had an old boss who, I was a personal assistant and she was gonna buy a reverse painted credenza and it was very expensive. - Okay. - But I think 30 sounds extreme. - Okay, I'm gonna go with 12. - But watch this paint literally $80. - It's not. - No, it's not. - It's not. - No, it's not because she, let me tell you something, my boss, she wanted this reverse painted thing and I was like, do you have like $10,000 to blow on this? That's quick, come on now. Where is it selling for $80? - Okay, where, where are we? This is, that's the other thing, where are we buying this? Like, are we buying this at an antique shop in Massachusetts? Or are we buying this in Soho, in New York, because, wow. Okay, I've taken up so much of your time. - Oh my God, please, this has been so fun. - A true joy and delight. I like to ask people at the end, you can choose which obsession you want, but to pitch me your obsession in a minute or under. You want me to pitch you one of the ones we spoke about or something else? - So basically, like, imagine I'm an alien that's come down from outer space. Like, I feel like game nights would be good. You're trying to be like, this is why game nights. - Okay. - Let me tell you, baby alien. - Great. Let me tell you, baby alien, why game nights are so special. Okay, as we've spoken about, the world is sad. It's on fire, literally and figuratively. And nothing seems to matter anymore. You know what really doesn't matter? Playing games and winning invisible imaginary prizes. But when I tell you, you're gonna, baby alien, you're gonna have the great, you're gonna, you're gonna have the bragging rights that you will have the day after a game night. I mean, that is a high that is second to nothing. I also think, actually, we do need to create, not to get too serious here, but we do need to like, section out a little bit more fun and silliness in our lives. Everything's so heavy and games are so light and ridiculous and stupid. And I think they are actually, much like laughter is a good medicine. I think like competition and having fun with friends is soul healing. I don't know anybody who doesn't have fun like sitting around a table. I don't know, did I do a good, did I do an okay job? I mean, I'm already in on game night, so that was like, stop, stop pitching, you have the job. - Sure, sure, sure, good. - Because I want people to become as obsessed with you as I am, where can we find more of you? What's happening? What do we need to see? What do we need to, yeah? - I'm sort of like my cake videos are the cockroach that won't go away. I just like will pop up on your feet every six months and you're like, this trend is still happening. But if you want to deliberately seek me out, I'm at the Johnny Cakes all over social media. - Amazing, okay, fantastic. - Thank you. - Yeah, thank you. - Thank you. (chimes) - If you haven't subscribed to Lemonada Premium yet, now is the perfect time. You can listen to OMG Obsessed completely ad-free, plus you will unlock exclusive bonus content, like even more obsessive level details from my guess. Just tap that subscribe button on Apple Podcasts or go to lemonadapremium.com to subscribe on any other app. You can also listen ad-free on Amazon Music with your prime membership. OMG Obsessed. (chimes) (audience laughing) Also, obsessives. We have the OMG Obsessed newsletter where I'm sharing my weekly obsessions. 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