This episode of SmartList Live blends humor, storytelling, and personal reflections with a vibrant live performance setting at the Avalon in Hollywood. Hosts share behind-the-scenes moments from their event, including a lively audience interaction and a heartfelt tribute to Jonah Hill’s comedic and creative journey. Jonah recounts his early days in comedy, starting with stand-up at bars and landing roles in iconic films like *Superbad* and *Moneyball*, crediting mentors like Judd Apatow and David Merkin for shaping his career. He emphasizes the human element of comedy—how personal experiences, like being dumped or growing up in entertainment-heavy environments, fuel authentic humor. The episode also highlights how comedy writing remains deeply personal, with Jonah noting that AI can’t replicate the emotional depth of human experiences. The hosts celebrate the connection between personal growth and professional success, with Jonah reflecting on how fame led to introspection and a return to grounded, family-centered values. The episode is sponsored by Skinny Pop Popcorn, praised for its simple, real ingredients, and Ashley, which provides stylish, durable home furnishings that helped create a warm, lived-in stage environment. Through anecdotes and humor, the show underscores the balance between talent, luck, mentorship, and authenticity in building a lasting career in entertainment.
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For the live show, we were on their Mad Max sofa. It's modular so you can kind of move it around however you want, depending on your space. Honestly, that setup worked perfectly for the show. I'm not kidding, I would have taken that whole setup home, it looked great, felt very comfortable, you know. It really did feel like we were just hanging out in someone's living room. Ashley is all about style that's made for real life with white glove delivery right to your room of choice. Visit your local Ashley store or head to Ashley.com to find your style. (Music) Welcome to SmartList Live, all at the Avalon, Hollywood. (Music) (Laughter) (Music) (Applause) (Applause) Sorry, hi. (Applause) That was pathetic. Sorry, sorry. He tried to come out last. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I got caught up back there anyway. Hey, I'm here now. Hey, well, hey, welcome Philip Los Angeles. (Applause) One more crack, get it. One more crack, get it. Let him have one more crack. Guys, we're so excited we're here and thank you for coming out tonight. This is very exciting for us. (Applause) I gave Sean a big smack across the face right before we came out. And I'm just waiting for the hippie back. So just pardon me if I'm over here. It was so loud, I can't believe you heard it. It's a little bit red over here. I'm sure it is. It's become kind of a tradition before. This is how we'll do it. We'll do it. No. (Laughter) This is how we'll do it. Just keep them in a clinch. It was so fucking hard. Six your mic. Look, I got it. All right, so we're very thrilled to be here. Huh? The rest of the show is going to be Les Violet. Les Violet. Okay. Very happy to be here. This is our second time here at the out of the lawn. Thank you for having us. Let's sit. Come on. Let's sit. Thank you guys for coming. I'm going to do a little set. Okay. Go for it. This should be good. Look at these. We got our nice -- we want to thank our sponsor. We got a nice stuff to sit on from Ashley. Yeah. We got some nice stuff from -- I mean, it's real homely. From home. Right? It's like a living room set. Oh, yeah. T-shirts. Got a couple T-shirts here. Look alive, everybody. Well, fighting. We're sorry. There's no -- there's -- I don't know. Close. Very close. Yeah. I couldn't get it up. We got more coming. We got more where that came from. At her. Jason leaves tomorrow. I leave -- yes. I'm going to go work tomorrow. Yeah. Because this isn't work. This is fun. I'm going to go -- I have to leave my family for a good long stretch. Yeah, I know how my dad feels. Huh? Yeah. This is -- it's high-class problems. No, I'm not complaining. But it's hard because I've been home for like a year. I know. It's -- no, I'm not going to be home for three weeks. But it's exciting because you're going to direct a film. Right? Yeah. And it's very -- to us, it's very thrilling to you. It's work, but to us, it's very thrilling that you're going to get behind the camera again and wow us with this other talent that you have that not a lot of people have. And so I think -- I think everybody's happy that you're going behind the camera again. You know? I think you can make -- because you're a good director. Right, that wasn't a compliment, was it? Are you sneaking an insult? No. But you just got back from working away from home for a long time. But you had Scotty with you. Yes. So all you missed was Ricky. What a show! Yes, I was -- we were gone for three months. We just got back last week. And -- but Amanda will be with you in New York, right? No, she's going to be here. Fran, he's going to be with me. Oh, that's nice. A little while. And then Amanda and Maple are going to come out for a little bit. Just -- just email me the itinerary. We're good. Yeah. What did you end up doing with your dog when you were in New York for so long? Nobody knows, actually. The dog is still missing. No, that we -- we left put the dog in a -- what's it called? When you board them? Prison. No, when you board them? No, I'm just saying what it felt like for the dog. No, we -- yeah. It's cost of fortune, but he was with other dogs. And he could play. And he was good. He seemed happy when we talked to him on the phone. Yeah. No, he was good. Are you guys just meeting for the first time what's happening? This is the weirdest. I'm so far away. I know. Well, it's different than the pond. Okay, we are going to have a guess that's going to come out here in a second. So that's why we're all separated. We do have a guess. Sean and I don't know who the guess is. I really don't. It is a key. Wait, but wait. We never know. Yeah. We truly never know who the guess is. Everyone's a while somebody who -- on our -- Except for like the presidents of the United States. The presidents we knew. Yeah. But we really don't know. And so it's always a surprise. And we do never talk about what we're going to talk about. Yeah. The difference with this, though, is that usually you guys, we guys, I don't do it. But you guys, when I bring on a guest, when we do -- I see you guys typing on your computer quickly, googling that person as soon as they -- Well, if I don't -- No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, because they don't know it, but like to like come up with like questions and stuff. You're not going to have that. That's fucking bullshit. No, it isn't bullshit. I don't do that. I'm typing away. Sean definitely does that. I do it. But if I don't know the person, it's like if a sports person comes up. You do it. I do not do that. How dare you accuse me of that. What are you missing that on? No. What are you playing with? I'm missing people, dude. I'm busy. Playing. Yes. You're just going to have to wing it. I mean, I don't know who it is. And so -- You're going to like him. And I like him. He's a friend of mine. Wait, can I -- before that, can I -- I just have a little of something I brought with me that I want to show everybody. Oh, boy. He loves to prepare. You're going to watch Runs Real. Yes, this is -- So today, today, only eight hours ago, at 11.05 a.m. this morning, Scottie and I chatted with a friend of ours and a friend. Did you say chatted? Chatted. Sorry. You can't hear ourselves up here. I'm so sorry. We brought a friend over. We just chatted everywhere. At 11.05, we both happened to chat. No. No. We chatted with a friend of ours and a friend of ours and a friend of the podcast. Oh. And it's pretty unbelievable. And we cut together -- Scottie cut together this 22nd video to show you what we did only eight hours ago today. This is what happened. Okay. Are we going to the tape? Yeah. We haven't seen this. Hello. It's everybody at the hour. What? Isn't that crazy? Look at her shirt. That is so cool. Can you see my reflection? Yes. That is wild. Just looking at the shirt. Look at that. You ready? Yup. I'm putting it into our kitchen right now. So it just looks like our kitchen table. This is our -- this is how we warm up food. We got some garlic and onions and some fresh fruit on the table. It's got to make the place smell real good. Wow. That amazing. Isn't that amazing? Wow. Yeah. So that is so cool. That was this morning. And she's like, do you want to just chat? I'm like, on the fucking International Space Station? Yeah. So for 45 minutes, we reached the chatting. She showed us around. She showed us the Russian astronauts and the Japanese. [BLANK_AUDIO]
section in the I don't know it's great so how cool is that to see our government you know tax dollars that work 45 minutes you talk 45 minutes we hung out with her today what was there a phone number no she she sends us a link to like a not zoom but something else but wait yeah what Google meet or whatever so wait I wrote down these things she they are moving five miles a second and they rotate the earth every 90 minutes that's how fast they're going isn't that crazy and I said what experience of working on she said something like astronauts get blood clots so they're doing some of that and they're growing they're growing crops like Matt Damon in the Martian and they're and their DNA therapeutics protein crystals future propulsion systems but what's fascinating is that she said when you go up there something happens to the back of your eyes because there's no gravity and it flattened the back of her eyes so she doesn't eat glasses on earth anymore isn't it amazing no one doesn't eat glasses and she's just twenty twenty what's that book you're reading I just saw you it's my phone anyway I just wanted to share that with you because that happened today how are you because I remember when she was on the podcast yeah we must have covered this but remind me yeah yeah yeah how are you friends with an astronaut because of the podcast what's with the look on your face I know shitties but he doesn't know anybody doesn't he never leaves his house he barely knows his dog I was Scotty pretty good what happens is he needs people and they want to continue to have a relationship because he's nice he doesn't have a shitty look on his face and by the way you just described yourself and you were describing me yeah isn't that wild anyway is that cool it just can't believe you can actually communicate so she's currently on the space day till September wow and I'm complaining about going to Jersey for three yeah yeah exactly but we we can talk to her again like we can hop on there I asked her tons of questions she loves that they love it Jamie were you thinking about like how fluid would move differently if you're up there like in your face and stuff you know I you do look puffy when they do those those little hits from I just pay I wouldn't be into it no no I just do radio from it does it lift radio so are you guys cameras not working again radio from space no I don't care about this is just a bit I don't know all right all right so okay no vanity all right Sean do you have any more bits anymore stuff anymore pre tape Sean I was I was have tons of stuff I just said that we never do anything planned and then you did have went to a video package yeah well I wanted to make sure I wanted to make sure I left space for her but I didn't know how to plan it oh my god I can't find my intro that I wrote for the what this is so real Michael bring me those cards down please god damn it so what else is going on real you know I just quit smoking recently no you didn't what you did smokey it's a maple bademan yeah maple maple maple bademan all right just going to be a disaster tonight all right free styling now intro the guest this guy I'm an actor there's supposed to be written for me and then I see I can see your sweat I know I'm in deep sweat right now okay so this is a fella he is extremely I think he's one of the greatest comedic actors we have full stop okay that's that's a that's a good start right see me vamping but he doesn't just make you laugh he makes you cry sometimes like what else with all the phones are up what's going on feel like Ariana Grande he's been nominated twice for an Oscar for fancy movies right not just the comedy stuff this guy's a big shot he's also writes and directs movies done a few of those what is it Ryan Reynolds no he hasn't written or directed a film yet and and I have found that while he's incredibly talented his hearts even bigger because we've become friends over the past few years you know him from forgetting Sarah Marshall you know him from knocked up 40 year old version you know him from super bad money ball wall for Wall Street ladies and gentlemen the one and only Jonah Hill of course I'm sweating I'm like what did you get to say dude I was already nervous and like oh he started to fuck it yeah what were you thinking Jonah what were you thinking backstage when Bateman blew it with the total wipe out I I'm just coming back out here like in crowds and stuff my right here and I'm like he's down to say he's gonna hook me up and he's like oh I don't have an intro so I'm sitting back there going like he's gonna go he's a guy that I friends with that text with and like I was like oh fuck he probably wrote something nice and now it's gonna get like down down to you know you know how to improvise I don't I'm all right at the improvising but you're you're the you're the Mac dad you and Vince Fawn yeah no one better brilliant ever really all right so right so you're not in front of you're not in front of crowds all the time you're not up in LA you're down in San Diego for the most part now oh yeah so okay so real quick before we go any further my my wife is here my best friend and business partner Matt Dines is here shout out to my beautiful wife Liv where's he oh what's up baby and then so so I live in a very small town in San Diego and it's amazing and my neighbors are incredible people and when we had our first kid we moved out there three years ago and my neighbors are so cool I I want to leave LA and raise a family outside of Los Angeles and and I was away from entertainment and I can maybe come back and then you know go back and forth and my neighbors are so cool they never like treat me weird or ask me about my job or anything and my neighbor is one of my great friends Dr. Sean uh he never he never asked he's here tonight whoa but hold on he never bothered me it was like oh what's this personally and then like after like a year we were in the sauna just chilling like two dads and he goes he goes can I ask you one question and I was like yeah sure man he's like it's Jason Bateman a cool guy and that was his one question about show business and I was like yeah he's an amazing guy and he and he goes he's like he's like it's fucking cool I'm a big fan of his so shout out to Dr. Sean and Dr. Bob and Heidi and Laura I love you guys both you know what it sounds like J.B. you might be able to get in that sauna with these guys yeah listen I love it for one more I think Dr. John you think J.B. is good in the sauna I get super nice in the schfits um Jonah yeah nice to see you all thanks for uh thanks for having me Jonah thank you for doing this this is a very easy no and you said yes yeah you know you could just say oh I'm down in San Diego now you know we drove in today it was awesome now will you stay overnight or we drive back yeah we're staying at a hotel we brought both our kids oh that's nice we have a new little baby who's like I was just a blue brand new baby and then we have it almost three year old oh boy that's so nice so now what what do you miss about L.A. when you come up what do you like to do oh you know nothing walk you know I grew up here it's it L.A. was such a cool place to grow up in the 90s because you could like um you know you could go skateboard downtown or you could sneak into a movie for me or you could go sneak into a comedy club and see like Chris Rock or some you know you had access to like show business stuff but you had access to like punk and and and skating and graffiti and all the like naughty stuff and um there was no internet it was just so awesome and and and it was where you you were skating right because your first film in 90s which is awesome that like you certainly were at least familiar with the skating culture where do you do you know your way around a skate park I mean yeah I still skateboard every day like come on yeah you do really okay because my daughter maple is we I took her the skate park this morning pedlo over there in in the valley um she's working on um pop shovets allies she just dropped in
last weekend. Amazing. And so you're already better than I ever was. When I say escape word every day, now with my son, we surf skate, which is way easier. It's like-- I don't do tricks or anything anymore. I'm too old. I'm 42. So surf skate means you're on a longboard. And you just kind of crude. Let's not go crazy. I'm not on a longboard, Jason. [LAUGHTER] I'm not sure you were part of that. But you were part of that skate culture just a little bit. Yeah, I loved it. Yeah, it was amazing. Anything skating hip hop in comedy when I was a kid, I was like anything about any of it, all I could-- Did you cross paths with Spike Jones at all back in the day? Well, I did a ton, and Spike is my biggest mentor and one of my best friends. Incredible, director. What a nice guy, too. He's one of the most amazing people. And before I directed mid '90, I wrote mid '90s at his apartment. Oh, really? And New York, we were both living in New York. And I basically spent five years after what was it? I've been gone for a while, so I'm kind of coming back. And I'm excited. Because I got all serious for a while, and I wasn't happy. I wasn't happy. And then I had my family, and I got happy. And now all I want to do is be funny again. You know, so it's-- You were always funny. It's a freaking blast. It's just like, that's what I said. Yes, I'm like, I want to go fucking be funny in front of a crowd. And that'd be awesome, you know? But the humor, do you find that the humor's coming from a more substantial place now that it's-- I mean, you're still-- you couldn't shake funny if you tried. But now you've got a whole deeper well of reflection and knowing yourself more, and you've peeled the onion. And now you've got a bunch of other stuff to draw upon to feed your humor, yes? Yeah, I think-- I mean, speak for me. That's fine. That's my special. Guys, I don't need to be here. There's no intro. And I just try back to stand here and don't talk to myself. I put the question in the answer, and then I say-- He could have just-- he could have just zoomed in. He could have just zoomed in. Totally. No, that is a good-- that's a good-- Thank you, next question. No, but it's more like, if you're bummed, you don't feel like being that funny, right? And if you're happy, the first thing I thought about when I got like, had my kids and was so stoked, it was like, I connected to back when I was just like 12, and I was just being funny for fun. And I was like, that's the thing I fell in love with my whole life. I dedicated my whole life to learning everything about the Simpsons and comedy history. How did you-- when you were growing up in the '90s, who were your influences? Who were you like, God, that guy is so funny, or the show is so funny, everybody. Everything, like anything good, bad, or in between, it was like-- But like you're so-- like Jason said, you're such a genius at improvisation. The first time I saw you was on a show called Campus Ladies. Yes. And one of my best friends, Carrie Azley, is here. Is she here? She's right there, Carrie. Yeah, and you're on the show with her. Oh, my God, hey, Carrie. And you met Dr. Sean? Do you care? Sean couldn't get them to you. I really can't see them. Carrie gave me a huge break. Thank you, Carrie. He gave me a huge fucking break when I was like 18. Yeah, but I watched you on that show. And I'm like, oh, my-- of course you skyrocketed. You were a brilliant performer, actor, and provider all of it. And I was just like, who is this person? So you must have-- I mean, mostly the Simpsons. I think the Simpsons is like the number one thing in the entire world, like if anything's left and impact on my life, it'd be the Simpsons over there. Some of the greatest comedy writing of all time, it's pretty such a heavyweight. But that was obviously-- there's no acting in that, except for the voices, obviously. So were you following the writing of that was writing the first poll for you, not performing? So if you shook me in the middle of the night, I'm like, what do you do? I'd be like, I'm a comedy writer. That's what I do. I write jokes every day. I go and write scripts. You don't know this because you just see the front side of it. But most of my job is writing comedy movies. That's mostly what I do. And when I was young, I would VHS record the Simpsons and then pause it on the writers and write them all letters. Oh, my God. And to this day, one of my biggest mentors and friends is David Merkin, who's an iconic Simpsons writer. And every time you've been your screening of early cuts in my movies for notes, David Merkin comes to every single screening, every table read. And he was my childhood hero. So I wrote them all letters when I was seven, eight years old. And that was my dream, like, if I had written for the Simpsons, that's like, would have been-- Did you write enough for-- Did you write a spec Simpsons script? Oh, yeah, I've written a ton of specs. Oh, you did? Did they ever buy one or pick-- No. No, I never sent them to them. I wrote them as an eight-year-old. Yeah, they can't receive-- Wow, wow. Oh, OK. Just an eight-year-old. Well, then when did the performance part of it start to take hold, like, when did you think that you could be in front of the camera? Well, I think all three of you were, like, hands, comedic hands, right? What happened? Like, did you just drift off? He's narcoleptic. He said, we're all hands, bro. Yeah, we're all hands. Must've been hands when you were little kids. Like, if there was like a party in my parents' house, I'd do like a comedy show. I feel like everyone here can relate to that. So it's just always like people were like, oh, you're funny. And then when I got to middle school, people's parents were like, you should pull them out of school to my parents and make them a comedian. Oh, wow. Yeah, people were like, say that-- You were going to schools where there were some people that were in the business, like the center and front. People think I'm a nepo baby by the way. My wife and I were just laughing about this that I'm a nepo baby. My dad's a fucking accountant. If you ask these guys, he directs a lot of shit. Do you ever hire your business manager son for a fucking black rabbit or whatever? Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. Joe and hired Jeffy Goldstein to play, like, the heavy and-- Wait, but Jonah, how old were you when we met? We met when you were like, you were young. Will, should we take a snack break? Yeah. Yeah, you were like hanging out at my school, like-- No, no, no, no. We were like a trench coat on. Yeah. No, that was a different one. Yeah, it's something different. All right. No, it was that, like, I'm leading by example. You had this, like, van-- It was at the wister. Yeah. No, so I went to the school called Crossroads, which is a, like, full leg up. Because if you grow up out here and go to the school, everybody's parents are in entertainment. So to be fair, it wasn't an abstract job. That was, like, my big leg up where I was, like, everybody's parents here works in entertainment. So if you want to, like, write for the Simpsons, that's not the craziest idea in the entire world, right? So that was a huge leg up for me to just not be, like, show business as abstract and far away, right? Right. Yeah, we were literally at-- it was Henry Winkle. We were doing the first season rest of the development. And I went over there for breakfast, one Saturday, and you and Max were-- So Max was, like, my best friend in high school is Henry's son. And he's an amazing guy, and a great director. Great director. He directs a lot of the Ryan Murphy stuff, right? It's a lot of amazing stuff. The Charlie Hunham show he just did was incredible. Freak. Monster. And he's an amazing dude. Yeah, and so I met Will. And I remember meeting Will. You were a kid. I was so hyped, because I was interning for his brother and arrested development and just come out. And Jake Hoffman was another buddy of yours. He interned on arrested development, didn't he? Yeah. Dustin Hoffman's is that a TV show? Oh. Yeah. That's a development. It was very funny. Jonah, Sean's never seen it. Never seen it. Is that real? Not a bit. It's real. It's real. It's real. I saw the first episode. You guys have this best job and show business. I'm so jealous of you guys because you're on it. This is your joining us. We're looking to replace one of us. But like, you guys have-- it's like being in a writer's room, like you're just bullshitting with your friends, but you don't have to make the thing at the end. It's a pain, like, all the billion dollars to just show up to the writers and never have to, like, make the good jokes in or edit out the bad ones. You're just like, man, let's just enjoy the house and order food and-- No. All right, but so wait. So you want to be a writer. You start doing it at a-- you're in a school at schools where the pathway to entertainment industry is not unreasonable. But at what age do you get the first sort of on camera idea? And then it actually happens. Are you still-- you're still in high school? I was 18. So like, fresh out of high school, I started working. So what's that first job? Do you get an agent? No, no, no. So it wasn't like that. I went to a new school. I went to a boulder for one semester and got kicked out. My mom calls it her $40,000 sweatshirt. And she's really funny. My parents are really funny people and awesome people. But then I went to new school and in New York City. And I started just performing in theater school with them performing at bars and doing stand up. Yeah, like stand up and then short plays. And they would let me perform at this bar called Black and White, which is an awesome bar. Did you do Black and White really? No. It was so fun. It was at the most fun time. And then I started getting like a crowd of people. And I was already like, it's on. So now you're like, it's so going to be on. Because you're comfortable in front of an audience and then it's so going to a camera then is not that much of a leap. - No, and then I got my first job in a movie called I Heart.
Huckabees, which was like my first job. And Jake's dad Dustin was like, "You should be a comedic actor." So how did that come to be? How did you get in front of Dustin or how did. - It wasn't like a performance thing or anything. We were just, I was just friends with his son and he would see me do stuff and was like, and I make prank calls CDs. I make prank calls CDs. I was like a ham. I was just like trying to be funny all the time. - But you were just making Dustin laugh around the house and he says, "You should read." - Maybe like a maple head of friend over and you are like, you know, Rob Reiner resting piece to the legend. I fucking love that dude so much. But you know, Rob would bring Albert Brooks around and Rob would tell me that like his dad was like, Albert is the funniest fucking guy, but Albert was just Rob's friend. - Right, right, right. - You know, and Albert's Albert Brooks, right? So like Dustin was like, "I'm doing this movie. Here's, I got you an audition." And so he got me an audition. - You went into, you read for the cast and director, he even knew, she passed it on to David. David said, "Yeah, great." And then you get on that set. And what's that like being on a set, just looking around? - Well, David O was fucking nuts at that time. - I saw that. - He was fuck wild. And I'm like, homey's with him. He's awesome, super nice guy. But at that moment in life, and I've had my own trust me, he was fuck wild, dude. There's like, you know, he was like screaming at Lily Talman and stuff. - Oh, it's online. - It's online and shit. And he'll talk about it. Like, you know, he's like, "Cool." He's one of the best directors ever. I mean, flirting disaster and three kings. I mean, he's so good at it, it's insane. And I got on the set and I was like, everyone's screaming at each other. He, the first time I walked on set, him and KK Barrett, the production designer, were joking around wrestling. And then it turned into a real fight. And it was like joking, that like turned into a fight. And these guys are like fighting. And it was, they were setting up my first scene to act in. (laughing) And I was like, "Hollywood is so tight." This is so cool. - I saw a fist fight on set once, too. - Really? - Yeah, it was crazy. It was so crazy. - Can you say the name of the movie? - I don't remember. But yeah, it was this weird thing I did, but it was out in the desert. Listen, guys. - Is everyone wearing clothes? - But I saw these two dudes. These two big dudes, like a grip and a gaffer get into it. They end up, they were arguing and they end up getting into a fucking fist fight. - Well, for a circle moment, real quick, because I wanna give KK some shout out right now. But if I was like, if I ever get to direct movies, I'm gonna hire KK Barrett. And he did my newest movie outcome. - He did. - He was the production designer. - Oh, that's so cool. - So full circle, like 20 years later, he was the production designer. - The greatest production designer ever. One of them, I'm sure. - So that was like a full circle moment. It was like a dream of mine. - So from there, you do a great job in that movie. You have to wait until the movie comes out until the industry starts to see it or does word get out from like daily's and early cuts and stuff like that and gets you to. - My part was so small that like, it didn't make a dent. It wasn't like people were like, you know, trying to give me jobs and shit. And then I met a guy named Peter Prinsipado, an incredible manager, who is my former manager, awesome dude. And he introduced my former two as well. - Well, that's what I was looking at, Will, sorry. Legend, and he got me an audition for Campus Ladies, and that was my second job. Was Campus Ladies, and I got like three or four episodes on that, and it was all groundlings people. And on that show, because it was like Will Forte and Maya Rudolph, and like every dope person I was like, in love with, came on to the show. And then my life really kicked off when I met Judd Apatow. - Right. - So did those people kind of get in Judd's ear and say he got to check this guy out? - I think I was just starting to do like table reads. I mean, this is like inside baseball, so this might be so boring. If this is boring as shit. - Okay. - So like when somebody's gonna like has a script and they're thinking about making a movie, they'll get a bunch of really talented people around the table and they'll read it out loud and see if it makes everybody laugh in the party. - And I was like the funny like 18 year old. There wasn't a lot of like 18, me and Michael Sarah would be at like all of them together. You know, so, and like Seth and Jason Siegel, like all the young dudes would be at them. And then when Judd started blowing up, was audition for four year old Virgin. I met him in Seth. And then my life, from then on, that day, I shot four year old Virgin. It's one scene in the eBay store. And it was raining, it was raining that day. So we were only supposed to shoot that scene for like an hour, but it was raining so they didn't have a cover set. So we shot it a whole day and I just improvised a whole day in front of Judd and Seth and Sean Roberts in one of my best friends. And Judd was like, what do you want to write? And I was like, you don't understand all I want to do is write. And so, but what about the, so he, what he gave me, I had a, I pitched him two movies and he bought them. And my parents were like, who is this guy who's molesting you? That I was living at home and I was 19. They're like, who is Judd Abitown? Is he like touching your wiener? Because like, you're like a fucking, but you're a lot of time over there. Donor who like doesn't have a job and like, why do you have a two-picture deal like universal? And you know, like it made no sense. What were the films? One was called Middle Child, which a lot of those jokes I won't say, but the movie maybe got swallowed into another movie. And then one called, one was about an imaginary friend, which is really clever, so that neither of them got made. But it like, ingratiated me with those guys. And then we went on this whole crazy. I hear this all the time. Like just those two, like the title Middle Child and something with imaginary friend with you writing it. Where did those scripts go? Like why don't we resurrect them? They're around, I mean, like, I could probably try and clean one up and get it made up and have you new stuff. What's that? You want to take a look at it? It's just fun, take a look. I'll do the tape where it's created. It's tape where it's created. 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Well, what about the stroke of genius lock that you landed in front of Judd Appetal, like one of the greatest sort of finders of talent and nurtures of talent? Yeah, he's amazing. He's amazing. And championing them, like, look what he's done. You alone. I mean, and there's what? 100, 100, probably the name 25 people right now that are household names that Judd has championed. Judd's like Kobe. I mean, like, he's so-- He's up there with Lauren Michaels as far as launching people into the comedy world. Yeah, there was like me and my friends, but then there's like Lena Dunham. And it went on, like Amy Schumer, and like, he really just like sauce see something in these people. And he's so great at like mining what you're going through. And helping you find your voice. And what he really did was he put me through Harvard education of directing comedy movies. So like, now that I'm 42 and we have our own company, shout out Strong Baby. Shout out Matt Dines, my bestie up there. And we produce the movies we make now. I like know what to do because of Judd. You know, so I'd go, he was blowing up. So my favorite thing was going to the table reads because you'd have writers at the table reads and you'd dissect and give notes on the scripts. And that's what I love to this day. I love like the Rubik's Cube of cracks.
talking and making better and making a comedy script better. >> Absolutely. >> You're not burdened by the idea of writing. >> I love it. It's my favorite part of the process. >> But I mean, do you love the part where you're sitting in a room by yourself and you're staring at a blank wall and you're just trying to like, trying to fill a blank page? Like to me, that's the hardest thing in the business. >> As Dick Heddish and Insane as I was when I got famous at like 22, like I don't take for granted a day that I get paid to write jokes. I actually think and I've grown way past that part when I was 21 or 22, but like I cannot believe I get to write jokes for my job. >> Right. >> I say it to myself every day, I'm like, do a structure and like character development and you know, all is lost on page 75 and like all of this like stuff you've got to like, there's like, it's the best job. >> By the way, too many of you know, everything exhausts him. >> Yeah. >> Everything. >> Dude, if I was on smart list, I wouldn't fucking write screw it. >> It was just so hard. >> So you guys have like a mobile company? >> Yeah. >> Dude, if I was you guys, I wouldn't touch a computer the rest of my goddamn life. I live in Tahiti and fucking phone this in on Zoom, dude. >> [LAUGH] >> All right, so I'm out here, I got to work in Hollywood, it was like, doesn't exist anymore. >> I'm like, I'm basically a cobbler, I make comedy movies with like me and two other people. >> Well, Jonah, talk to me about that. I know you're half joking about Hollywood being whatever you just said, it's over, you know. Because that's the feeling out there right now is that, where is this going? And everybody's scared and everybody's like, what's going to happen with AI? And especially in comedy, not especially in comedy, but like. >> Oh, thank God, a conversation about AI. >> [LAUGH] Finally, finally, you can't put in a prompt, it says, write me a joke that Jonah Hill might say on a stage with three other dudes. You'll get like six jokes. So like, does that kind of like affect the whole writing stuff, and no. >> No, because you can't replace comedy ultimately as human. >> You can't build a time page, and then you're just plusing it perhaps. >> It'd be like having some grom writers in the writers room. >> Yeah, I'll write like 50 shitty jokes that you could rewrite or something. But they won't have the human experience that allows comedy to be funny, because you got to get dumped to write a funny movie about getting dumped, right? >> Right, right. >> A computer hasn't been dumped. They know, maybe they have, I don't know, I shouldn't say that, I'm sorry all the computers in the crowd, but I don't worry at all. I also live as, I'm like, I just go until they fire me. Like, I'm so motivated by what I do and my family that, like, I just have two things. I have my family and writing comedy, so like, where do I fit in in that? >> Yeah. >> Well, I'm here tonight. >> Yeah. >> All right, so how close are we to super bad now at this point in? >> It'll be 20 years, oh, you mean like at that point? >> Yeah, in the story here, while you're- >> He shows four-year-old Virgin, and then a year later, we made knocked up, and then two months after knocked up, we made super bad. So like a year after I met Judd, we made super bad. >> So who, I'm embarrassed, I should know this as well. >> And you guys were working with Michael, right? >> We were. >> Who wrote super bad? >> Seth Rogan and Evan Goldberg wrote the most brilliant script of all time. >> Got it. >> Yeah. >> And it read, we all improvise and everyone comes up with great jokes on those movies, but their script that they wrote was like flawless. >> Yeah. >> Like, do you remember Michael Serra going away to do that movie that was done during the high school? >> No, but I tell you something, this is a true story. So years ago, right before, like the year before super bad, there was a script that we were going to do at a place, I won't say because then you'll be able to know who was in charge. And it was about, it's this crazy great script that Mitch Hurwitz and I worked on with Jim Valley. Really, really, really funny, turned out great. And I said to the guy who ran this particular studio, so this is super bad, it was 2007. >> Yeah. >> Right? I mean pause first, I can't. You with the dates. He knows dates, like so. >> So that's crazy. >> That's crazy. >> It's great nods. >> Yeah. >> And he'll tell you what month was the film released in? >> Which month? >> Super bad, 2007. >> No, I don't know, I don't know. >> It was 2007. >> Yeah, no, but what month? >> It's probably a summer release, right? >> Yeah, probably. >> You can guess. >> Yeah. >> You might have been, but I remember going in and there's this thing that we're working on, called for this dude, this character I was playing, and then these two teenage sons. And it was two teenage boys who were best friends. It was basically like a three-hander. And I said to the guy, this is before all that, the 440 version, I go, it should be Michael Sarah and this kid, Jonah Hill. >> No way. >> And he goes, what? No, man. What are you talking about? And I swear to God, and a fucking year later or whatever it was, 18 months later, super bad comes out. And it's like a huge hit. I don't like this. >> I'm like enormous. >> This dumb fuck. >> Yeah. >> Fucking guy, blew it. And he got fired. >> Did he? >> Yeah. >> You should have. >> I'll tell you after. >> Thank you. >> Because when I met Will, when I was 18, I met him at my friend's house and I was bugging out, dude, because he was joked from a resting development. I was like, holy shit, dude, so good. >> So good. >> He's guys. >> Anyway. >> All right, so super bad happens. That's very, very cool, very exciting, yes. But I would imagine. >> It was game-changing, too. >> Yeah. >> That's my quote. Was it disruptive? Or did you, did you flow with it pretty good? Because I know Michael Sarah was, because a resting development was, was, was was just finished. Right? We were just, we were just done a resting development. >> We had finished the three seasons at Fox. >> Yeah. >> We finished in December of 2005. >> Okay. So then that, I would say, rainman. >> I remember. >> Yes. Mary Lou Henner. >> Are we okay now? >> I remember Michael was just, even though he'd already had some, some fame, some notoriety from a resting development. Super bad was a whole, not the level. >> Yeah. >> And there was a level of adjustment for him. I know for sure. For you as well, was it, was it comfortable for a bit, or, I mean, it was exciting. His hell, but it was crazy. It was just bizarre, you know, it was like, you can't walk down the street anymore. >> Yeah, and Michael and I hung out every day still. >> Oh no. >> So we would go to Canter's, I live behind Canter's in Cecil department. And Michael and I would just walk to Canter's and their people would, we'd be talking about the shit like in the, like our lives were like that movie. And people would see us and they'd freak out because it's like, we walked off the screen into the deli. >> Yeah. >> People think you're shooting a sequel. >> Yeah. >> It was just so bizarre, you know, and it was creepy. >> But are you thinking because you're, how old are you at that point? >> 20? >> 22. >> 22. So you're adding, I don't think, I'm at will, 22 or 23. >> So you're at an age where you're thinking about, okay, I've, I need to have a job, a career. I need to be starting thinking five years, ten years in the future, I got to provide, I got to, so this is, are you thinking now this is, I've got some momentum, this can be my career. Is it, does it align with what your plans were, what your dreams were, what your goals were? >> I was obviously stoked because I loved the movie. You know, I didn't know if I'd get to work on shit I loved. >> Right. >> I knew I'd work in comedy in some capacity, like I had the confidence enough to know like, I'm professionally funny, even at like 18 or not, whatever. But I didn't, like super bad was like my dream, I was like what I wanted to see, you know, so I, I was so stoked that Judd was in the position to make the kind of movie that he had. >> Yeah, but it was super being made. >> Super bad comes out, you've got a pretty good idea that shit's working out, it's a huge head. >> It was, it was going to watch that comedy features were a huge business, huh? >> I'm going to watch it tonight. I'm going to have seen it, but I'm going to watch it again. >> Right after arrested. >> Yeah. >> Well now that I have kids, now that I have kids, I'm like, oh my God, imagine when my son, like who's three, like imagine him watching that movie, oh my God, I never thought about that shit. >> Maybe I loved it. >> Maybe because your cool kid still watching it and stuff. >> He loved it. >> That's really. >> He loved it a lot. She was very excited to be here tonight. >> Yeah, when I couldn't want to know, it was psycho, it was psycho, like we couldn't walk around and it was like so exciting and kind of scary. And then like you just cannot not become obsessed with yourself when something like that happens. It just is like, it's impossible not to become like a weird dude for like a year. >> Because you're telling you you're great, right? So everybody's going, you're the greatest. >> You just have all your friends that you're still friends with from high school, but all of a sudden one of you people like respect and pay attention to. So like you just are kind of a self-centered person because it's about you a lot of the time. >> Yeah. >> And thank God that time is over and it's not about me anymore. >> But you're skipping over a very interesting part where you're kind of, you're munching on all the junk food of all that fame and all of that access and relevance and whatnot. And then you start to think this is a question, what should I do about dramatic work to make sure that I'll tell you the smartest thing I did was like Michael, Michael had Juno come out like two months later. >> What a movie. >> I do see Juno, but for real, Michael, Sarah had super bad in Juno come out.
in like six months and it was like he really, he was more famous than I was and he retreated inward and I was like, I'm gonna watch Juno tonight too. - He's the best movie that allows for you, we'll ever see. - This is Sara with the inward. - So I've spoken in inward, but he is still, I will say to this, he is top three best friends in the world to this day. - A great man. We still talk like once a week. - He's just been directing a movie. - Yeah, he's in post on his movie. It's gonna be amazing. He's so fucking brilliant and cool and a great human being. And, but what I did was, I got offered a bunch of movies for the first time and I was like-- - All in the comedy space or? - All the comedies, yeah. And I was like, I can't make a move. None of these are as good as super bad. So I said what to my agent, what writing jobs are available? And Sasha Baron-Comb was looking for writers for the Bruno movie. And I auditioned for the writer's room. - Exactly, what's the writer audition like? - It's like you get like a day sit in in the writer's room. But I had been in the writer's rooms with Judd in those guys. So I got the job and I was like super, I was like arguably more famous than Sasha was at that time. And I was like a pimply writer in his writer's room for like six months. And I would ride my bike to the lot over here on Formosa from my apartment on Fairfax. And people would be like, yo! And I would just go and write jokes 'cause I didn't wanna think about like the outside world. I didn't wanna think about the pressure of like, what do I do now? - That's such a funny move to do that. To go from that to then all of a sudden, just to be a writer, a staff writer on the Bruno movie. - It was the best time, of course. Because it was like, I was like, I just got to work with one of my heroes and pitch like, I love Bruno. Like when the allergy show came out, it was like when a rest of the development came out, I was like obsessed with Bruno. So like all of a sudden I was writing jokes and like Mickey Mouse was saying my jokes. Like, you know, all of a sudden it was like, like it wasn't just like someone cool. It was like a character that I already loved. - He's an incredible talent. - Yeah, he's an awesome guy. He was an awesome boss. - I kinda wanna get to it. I think you were trying to get to it, but man, you take a long time. - No, I do. - No, you're allowed to. You're supposed to be speaking. - We wanna hear from you. - Live in my being boring or no? - No. - No. - No, this is fascinating. - We love Jonah. - Sean, is this one of your favorite episodes? - We love him. - No, we love him. (crowd cheering) - Do we flip over to like, DAX's podcast, Sean? Or no, do we keep listening to this or fast-forward? - I wanna, Jonah, I wanna get into it 'cause then you go and you start doing interesting things like Wolf of Wall Street, which you're amazing. - Thank you so much. - You're so, dude. - Don't skip over Moneyball. - Well, I'll tell you the story. - By the way, Moneyball, oh, dude. Moneyball, first of all, that really hard film to make from that book is a great book. And I remember thinking like, don't never do it. It's so far, it's so, that movie's so great. You are so great in that movie, so you do Moneyball. - Well, can I say one thing before that? - Yes, please. - I don't wanna jump straight to there. - Did we miss a credit? - No, I know the question. I know the question you're trying to get to it, dude. - The question you're trying to ask is this, in my opinion, is this? Is that, I was working for Sasha and got offered all the big comedies, and I got offered the hangover and Cyrus at the same time. And I did Cyrus, and this is why we need agents. - I wish I did both, 'cause the hangover riffs and is an amazing movie, and I love Todd. But like, I was like. - Cyrus didn't suck, the two classes know what they're doing. - No, no, no, but it changed my life because I wanted to do dramatic movies and comedic movies, and that script in that part was incredibly and very deep and emotional, and a lot like my work today. - And guess what, Bennett Miller probably saw Cyrus, and he probably did not see hangover. - So he saw Cyrus, and he cast me a money ball. - I could let it speak, dude. - Sorry, I get so excited. - Now we're caught up. I'm just bridging the, just doing it a little bridge. - A little bridge work. - So then you work, Bennett Miller, and then you work with Martin Scorsese on Wolfel-Wall Street, and with Leo DiCaprio. - That must have been just a mind blow with first day. - Well, money ball was unbelievable. - Oh, yeah, of course. - Right, money ball was such a trip, 'cause like, remember my dad was a fan of that book, and he's like, how are they gonna make this? - Michael Lewis. - Yeah, how are you gonna make this a movie? - Didn't Aaron Sorkin write that script? - And Steve Zalien. I mean, Bennett Miller is, not like a household name, but if you make movies, he is. - I wish you direct more movies. - He is such a brilliant director, the director of that film. - He hasn't made a movie in years. - Since Foxcatcher, I think. - Yeah, since Foxcatcher. I mean, he's an amazing guy. I'll talk about him so much. - But didn't you want to direct early on? - Okay. - So all these guys, I would just work for them, and sponge for them, and write for them, and like, spike at that time, I would just write for him for free for like five years, whatever commercial, whatever like short film he was doing, or whatever I'd help on, because I was just an intern for all these great directors that I'd get the chance to work with as an actor, and then also the comedy writers. I was like, such a nerd, where I'd meet someone who wrote on a rest of the development, and geek out over them at the mall, and they'd be like, what? You know? So it was, I'm so privileged, 'cause I just love the actual work of what I do. - Right. - You know what I mean? - Well, so then talk about that. - That's a rare thing, you know? - Yeah, I mean, you're so incredibly lucky to have been on the sets of all these incredible directors. You find yourself cherry-picking from them, finding them. - But then Marty's like another level. He's another level than everybody ever is. - I feel like there's a bit of a paternal element there between the two. You guys seem so close, and it's warm, it's genuine. He did a great cameo in this in the last film. - Yeah, he was an outcome, which is on Apple, if you wanna watch it. - Great movie. - Keanu Reeves. - Keanu Reeves. - American Treasure. - Yep. - But yeah, the fact that I call Marty and don't have to stop and like apologize, it's psychotic to me, you know? Simpsons and good fellows would just be the two things that I think are like, if you had to like take my brain and freeze it, you'd cut it open. It'd probably be those two things. And so like, so, you know, I got to direct him. This was the first movie he could do. - Did you give him a note? - Huh? - And then he'd go, "Oh, you're shit together, Martin." - He said, "You're shit together, time is money, man." No, I mean, like, he came in so prepared. It was, honestly, the whole thing was so psychedelic, it was like him coming to set in me directing him. It was so psychedelic. It was like childbirth. It was like, you see like colors and stuff. You're like, "This is so trippy." And, but then he interviewed me for interview magazine and he had to talk to me about the movie and he loved the movie. And I'm directed to other movies, which he liked, but he didn't love. (laughs) And he was like, "I love, he's like, this is a giant leap forward and I love this movie." And that meant a lot to me. That was fucking so powerful. The critics did not agree. But, you know, I am introduced on the toilet for the first four minutes of the movie, so there's that. But, you know, like, to have him love the movie was fucking rad. It was fucking cool and meant a lot. And he's just the best guy. You go through withdrawal after you work with him because the poor unfortunate other directors you have to work with after cannot compare. No matter how wonderful, prepared and amazing they are, is there one thing that is louder to you about the experience of working with him that is different than other directors? Is it just ease on set? Nothing comes within a billion miles. What is a billion with a B? What is the one main thing? Do you think that he does different? Well, the most honest thing. That company excluded, right? So, you know how like he's everyone's favorite director? Yeah. So, his ideology and taste in life and everything is like your favorite person. His, so it's like, it's not, he doesn't just, director's work is like their worldview. So, the reason you love Marty's work is because you love him. Right. You love his lens as he sees the world through and like, his taste. His taste, his humor, his fucking realness, as you don't like to see someone in life. Here's how I know I'll be friends with somebody. When you're like at the mall and you see someone and the person's being a fucking weirdo and you look to like the person you're with and you both see it without saying anything, Marty sees the fucking weirdo that you see it. He gets it. He sees it all even though he's, and he's Martin Scorsese at the same time. Right. You know what I'm like? He's as human and real as like the fuck is that guy doing? And he's also the biggest genius you've ever met. You're so, and we're also lucky to be immersed into the thing that we chose to do because we love to do it, right? And you've been enjoying tremendous success, both writing and acting and now directing and everything. Is there something, and that really stimulates your mind. Like you said, there's my family and there's work, right? And that's all you care about, it's all you love. Is there anything else that-- I mean, I have friends, swear to God. Jason is my actual friend. Great friend. Yeah, yeah. He is an amazing friend. For sure. But-- Say more. And I look up to him very much. He's a-- I would call him a mentor because I admire his relationship with his amazing wife, Amanda, and the father he is to his children. And he's graded his job. And they don't have to be mutually-- I have to say more. This is a good-- Let's hear it for Jason's advice. Yeah, it's true. [APPLAUSE] He's a wonderful human being. It is, it's very true. He's got to go to New York tomorrow and I don't know if you heard of what he's up against. Yeah. It's just-- He's going all the way across the country. Like, I'm pumping it in 36j, yeah, that's it. - You said you need to intro, you wrote? - Yeah.
- I love to read it. I kind of remembered it. It was pretty close to that. - I interrupt you. What was your question, Sean? - No idea. - I'm sorry. - No, no, no. Oh, you don't know. I mean, to being so deeply immersed in what we'd love to do, there's gotta be other things that interest you. Like, I'm obsessed with space. - Yes. - And sci-fi and all that. What are the other things that, when we think of Jonah Hill, instead of work and family, what is the thing that's like, oh, you know what? It's skateboarding. What is the other thing that we're like, what? You absolutely love. - Super great question, because I would be, hobbies are a huge part of my life and happiness as well. So, like, I love Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. I love, except my body is begging me to not love it. 42 isn't, my wife is often like, you're not gonna become like a professional fighter. You know that, right? Like, you're a comedian. - But let me ask you something. - Yeah. - If we got into it. - I would fuck you up. - You'd fuck me up, right? - I would fuck all three of you. - Truly. - Yeah. - And that's the best part, my favorite thing is we were like, oh, Jonah Hill, a fucking fat guy from Superman. - Sure. - And I'm like, I would fucking annihilate you. - I'm not kidding. - I'm not kidding. - Every fight, if you see me, try it. - Every fight ends up on the ground. - I can't bring it. Who's got it? - In like, you were way bigger than me. - I have like a fucking fuck around and find out. And also surfing. - But then your kids take all that, you know, it was all that stuff like pandemic, no life, selfish, have no family, no wife. But then, you know, kids, it's your life. - For sure. - You know, like, it's, there is not a free moment. Like, I ask permission now to go do my hobbies. - I love you. - You know, because like, if the kids need me. - Right. - You know, but then you got to fill your own cup. That's why I call guys with Jason. Like, Jason would be like, how do you balance this shit, you know? - I have a secret fantasy of wanting to get into a fight. - Because I've never been into it. - It's not a fantasy. I feel really bad for the other guy. - Sean just likes the ground and pound situation. - By the way, I would fuck you up, but I am being funny. - You like Jajitsu. I'm going to start a new one called ground and pound. - I'm going to teach it. - Ground and pound.com is not what you think it is. Get it now. Yeah, I know. I've never been in a fight and I've always been like, that has to feel like. - But dude, acting. And like, I hadn't acted in a long time. And now I'm out there maybe going to take a role and like start acting for other people. - Yeah. - I'm so excited to act. Like, almost like I'm excited about to serve for Jujitsu. Like, like-- - I could have been away for a while or because of the directing. And now you're going to bring that perspective to the acting. - Yeah, like I haven't done a movie where I acted for another director. I did McKay's movie, don't look up. And then you people with Kenya, which was such a fun experience. I saw Lauren London today. Shout out Lauren London. I fucking love you. Shout out Kenya. Shout out McKay. Shout out all the homies. And then what am I talking about? And then so your hobby is acting. - Yeah, like, I was like, I might take a job and I'm like, dude, I'm so excited to like, just put on the t-shirt you tell me to put on and go be funny. Like, I'm so excited like I was when I was young. - What about-- - It's a fun feeling, you know? - Yeah, I do know. - What about daddy stuff? What's your favorite part about it? - You're amazing. I called you, but you got to see is this thing on Will with so incredible. - Oh, yeah. - Brilliant. - Absolutely brilliant. - And Bradley is just amazing. - So incredible. - Who don't you like? - Who do I like? - I'm just kidding. - It's more like who doesn't like me and that. - What is your favorite part about daddy stuff? What have you found as your favorite thing to do with your kid, that you kids, that you didn't think, that you didn't know you were gonna love? - I knew I was gonna love it. I just prayed that I'd be able to do it in the right way. You know, so I'm so proud of what I get to do. Every second of it is so sick. Because like, even when he's like three and crazy, because one of the ones a little baby, you can only yell at him, scream yourself, horse it him so much. - How's your swaddler game? Are you a good swaddler? - No. - He's out of, yeah, no, I'm not a good swaddler. I'm a good diaper change. - Is this a good diaper change? - No. - No. - Jay. - But that's a whole swaddler. - Swaddling is when you take and you wrap up it. Well, the probably past, the young ones probably pass the swaddling now. - Yeah. - It's like swallower. - No. - Swaddler. - That's on ground and pound off now. - This is that. (audience laughs) - With Jason, the young swaddler. - I don't get it on the swaddle. - He did? - For real. - A great swaddler. - And a great diaper change your ripper. - Making your kid, like seeing your kid come up with something that he thinks is funny to make you laugh. - Oh. - Like knowing that that's, like, he wants, he thinks of something that is funny in his three-year-old mind and then tries to be like, "Dadda," and then says, which is usually, "Oh fuck, or weiner." 'Cause he's my son. And he'll be like, "Dadda, oh fuck." (laughs) And I'm like, "Family business, baby, get out there." (audience laughs) - Are you enjoying, where he's still able to deal with it? Like, I bet you're going to enjoy starting to feather in, like, your sense of humor to him. And like, you know, he'll start to like pick up on that from you and it'll start to maybe become kind of his sense of humor. You see, like, I remember, I think it was, I think it was maple. Maple, was it you or was it franny? I remember, I'll never forget what type. We'll say, what have him said to me? Like, "Daddy, how come you never smile after you say something funny?" And it was like, you know, just like, kind of like, "Well, 'cause if you smile, then you know it's a joke." "What if you don't smile?" And it's kind of dry and that's like sarcasm. It was like, so weird that I was trying to formulate what the answer would be to that. But like, you don't know what the answer is to that. Like, your kids have never seen you smile. Think about that, that's what it is. Think about how fucking traumatized they are. Comedy is not supposed to be fun in our house. Stop laughing. I mean, you don't have to teach them. They just watch you. Right, that's what I mean. It's like, you start to just like, I don't know. I just, I don't want to go tomorrow. You're going to be brilliant. But I would be having a nervous breakdown if my kids were going to college. 'Cause I think about, I start crying sometimes. I'm like a little baby myself because I'll look at them and be like, "If you're a teenager and don't want to hang out with me, I'll cry every night." Right. You know, like, I can't imagine them. Well, here's something that somebody said to me that sort of like got me off the ledge. When your kids go to college, you've got a long time to go. And they're not going to college. The baby's got another four or five years, so I'm still, the tears are still pretty low. But when Franny, my eldest, left, I was like, I'm not going to do well with this. Fortunately, she goes to school in town, so I'm okay. But somebody said to me a few years before she said, "You're not losing your four-year-old." Like, it's not your four-year-old is not leaving. It's an 18-year-old that's probably been spending a lot of weekends out at friends' houses. So it gets feathered in, and it's not like, boom, your four-year-old, your 10-year-old is like leaving the house. You're actually excited for them to leave the nest, start flapping the wings. And you've, like, knowing you relationship with your daughters, you've seen them blossom into these incredible people, so they're like, "Go shred." You're excited to watch them go do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, you'll love her. It's radical. It's all a blessing. Yeah. All right, we're about done here. These people, they probably want to pee or do something, or get the hell out of here. In closing, though. We're done. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, we don't take it all the time. I have so boring. Oh. Talk to us about the film that's out right now, and the film that's coming out. Yeah. I saw that one, too. That one's fucking great. You guys are gonna have to wait a little bit longer on that. You're still in post on that. Jason also gives the best notes because you're such a great director. But tell us about it. Yeah. Incredible. And Will and I are friends, but it's like a newer friendship. And then Sharon and I are gonna become friends. That's right, right after this. We're gonna, yeah, we're gonna watch Super Bad tonight. Yes, right. Beat him up. Yeah. If you'd like the shit beaten out of you, please let me know. Sean's got a signal. Come on down to San Diego. We'll treat you right. Look in your rear view mirror. San Diego's a joke. It could beat me up. Traffic was a nightmare. Let's go. Yeah. So tell us about these two films. The new movie is called Out Come, and you can stream it on Apple. Yeah. And it's Keanu Reeves and myself and Cameron Diaz and the great Matt Boomer, who is incredible. And a bunch of amazing people. David Spade, Laverne Cox. Really amazing cast. And it's a really funny movie. And if you want to enjoy yourself at home and then pause it and take a piss and get snacks and stuff, you can totally go do that. But it's also got filmmaker stuff in it. Like you shot it beautifully and it's scored beautifully. And it's like, it's, it's, you're doing it. Thank you. And now, and this, and then this next one, this next one is just pure stupidity. So it is just dumb. Tell them what the concept is. It's dumb. I'm about to go on a run of just the dumbest shit you've ever seen in your entire life. So I hope you left your brains at home. So it's called Cut-Off and Kristen Wigg and I played two dumb ass errors. Rich kids in their mid-40s who get cut off by their rich parents. Played by Beth Middler and Nathan Lane. So. Oh, that's good. It is like step back.
Brothers, Clueless, Trading Places, yes. - That's so great. - Classic, comedy, and Kristen Wigg is the American treasure. I've been so lucky in my last two movies, Keanu Reeves and Camerjee as in Kristen Wigg and Beth Middler and Nathan Lane. I'm the luckiest guy, but it's gonna be in theaters, shout out Mike and Pam and Jesse at Warner Brothers and we are trying to bring comedy movies back to them. - Yeah, see you in a minute, it's about time. - It's about time. - We haven't been, there haven't been enough comedy movies getting made and I think it's about time and I hope that you're likely, I'm glad you're leaving. - I am dedicating till you guys make me stop. - Yeah, the break people laugh. - We want more of you, more often, higher frequency, your break's over, move back up from San Diego or at least get what we have to share. - But I promise to try and make a movie every year that's funny, critics do your best, you cock suckers and then I'm gonna make people laugh so fuck y'all. - That's great, I love that. - We love you buddy. - We love you, don't forget to join us. - Jonah Hill. - Jonah Hill. (audience cheering) - Thank you, I hope that was okay. - I love you, dude. - I'm sorry, I was like, don't do that. - No, that's okay, that's okay. (audience cheering) (upbeat music) (audience cheering) - So we went into a wrap-up, wrap-up, yeah. - No, we gotta do the wrap-up. - We gotta do the wrap-up. - Sean, I find is the most genuine, warmest, sincere, attentive, friend I could ever ask to have. (audience laughing) - That's a true story. - That's very nice. - Will has all of that. - And just happens to make me laugh more than anybody I've ever met in my life. - Yes. - Oh thank you. (audience cheering) - You're present. - Thank you. - Jason. - Take your time. - It's gonna take a minute. - To think of something? - You are, you're so Jason, you know? Which is what we love about you. You're just, you're the, no. Jason is such a sweet boy. - This is awkward. - No, it's true. - And he's, and he's, you've made such a great thing of yourself. You've really turned around. I mean, you kind of grew up in the woods, and you just, you got out and you're a beautiful person. And he's, and I give him shit. We give him shit for being so, you know, a powerful, powerful, powerful. - But he's so squishy on the inside. - Yeah, yeah. - He is such a sweet boy. - Yes, I love, I love you because you also are a genuinely kind person. And you really think of other people. And I, you are one of the, you're grabbing my ass right now. - Yeah. - And you're one of the smartest people, I've ever known in my entire life. (audience laughs) And yes, you're squishy inside. This fella is also super squishy. The funniest person on the face of the planet, both of them are, and I love you guys both. - I love you too. And I said, Sean and I were texting last night about something, and I, you know, you have those moments. What, one of the great things is that about our friendship, I don't know why we're doing this. But, is, we love each other. And I think it's the age that we've got too. We can tell each other that we love each other. - Yeah. - And it feels really great to be able to do that. - Yeah. - And I said, Sean sent me text last night. We talked on the phone and then he sent me, it was really lovely text afterwards. And, like Jason said, you cannot meet a person who is more consistently supportive and kind than Sean Hayes. - You can try. - No, and constantly, he checks in on everybody he loves. He's always so selfless and it's unbelievable. And, and JB's the same. I feel very, very honored that we get to do that. You guys listen to us. - Yeah. - Fuck around. - I don't know if you guys get to work with your best friends. They are truly my two best friends. You guys let me work with them and have the greatest time of my life and talk to some of the most interesting people in the world, so we cannot thank you enough. We really, really appreciate it. - Yeah. - Yeah, we do. - And we do. - I also want to say sorry, thank you to Bennett and to Rob and to Michael Terry. - There's Rob Armio. - Rob. - Rob, Rob has been in. - This is a, this is a. - There's Bennett over there. - Yeah. - Rob. - And where's Michael Terry? - Michael Terry is somewhere. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - It is, it is six of us, and I'm great. - It's a six of us. - It's a six of us. - But it is a six of us that make this thing happen. - So without them, we wouldn't have. - And we didn't want to let another moment go. Bye. - Bye. - Bye. - Thank you. (upbeat music) - Smart. - Smart. - Smart. - Smart. - Smart. - Smart. - Smartness is 100% organic and artisanally handcrafted by, Bennett Barbaco, Michael Grant Terry, and Rob Armjurf. - Smart. - Smart. - Smart. - Smart.
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The episode features a live show performance hosted at the Avalon in Hollywood, with the hosts showcasing their comedic energy and personal stories.
Guests include Jonah Hill, who shares his journey from early comedy roots to becoming a successful writer, director, and actor, highlighting key influences like Judd Apatow and David Merkin.
The hosts promote two sponsors—Skinny Pop Popcorn for its simple, satisfying snack options and Ashley for its stylish, durable, and home-friendly living room furniture, both of which were used to create a comfortable, authentic stage setup.
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This episode of SmartList Live blends humor, storytelling, and personal reflections with a vibrant live performance setting at the Avalon in Hollywood. Hosts share behind-the-scenes moments from their event, including a lively audience interaction and a heartfelt tribute to Jonah Hill’s comedic and creative journey. Jonah recounts his early days in comedy, starting with stand-up at bars and landing roles in iconic films like *Superbad* and *Moneyball*, crediting mentors like Judd Apatow and David Merkin for shaping his career.
He emphasizes the human element of comedy—how personal experiences, like being dumped or growing up in entertainment-heavy environments, fuel authentic humor. The episode also highlights how comedy writing remains deeply personal, with Jonah noting that AI can’t replicate the emotional depth of human experiences. The hosts celebrate the connection between personal growth and professional success, with Jonah reflecting on how fame led to introspection and a return to grounded, family-centered values.
The episode is sponsored by Skinny Pop Popcorn, praised for its simple, real ingredients, and Ashley, which provides stylish, durable home furnishings that helped create a warm, lived-in stage environment. Through anecdotes and humor, the show underscores the balance between talent, luck, mentorship, and authenticity in building a lasting career in entertainment.
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Judd Apatow was instrumental in launching Jonah Hill’s career by giving him a breakthrough audition for 'Four Year Old Virgin' and later championing his talent. He helped Hill develop his comedy writing skills and provided opportunities that shaped his path in filmmaking.
Jonah Hill landed his first major role after being invited to audition for a film by Dustin Hoffman, who saw his comedic talent and creativity. His performance in 'Four Year Old Virgin' led to a career-defining opportunity in comedy filmmaking.
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