Jon Hamm on Meme Life, Busted Brackets, Masters Dinner Debate & A New Bearcat in Town | Ep 185

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We're pumped that he's finally back at UC. And I'm sure we'll talk about that in a little bit. But subscribe on YouTube, wherever you get your podcasts. And follow the show on all social media, @NewHeightsShow, with one S. For fun clips throughout the week, we're going to have a bunch this week, as Jason tells you what we have coming up this week. 92%ers, we got another amazing episode coming up. We're going to talk a little golf. The best major of the year is coming up with the Masters. We got Jon Hamm, little friends and neighbors, season two sneak peek. We're going to talk a little March Madness. And for all of our Bearcats listeners, the new Men's Masters. The new Men's Basketball coach, Jared Calhoun is here. Big episode. Big, big episode. Let's get into a little bit of that new news. New news coming in hot. This week's new news is brought to you by American Express. And we're going to have some new news of their own. Oh, okay. American Express is now the official partner of the NFL. Big news. Huge news. Damn. Oh, man. American Express. Yeah, nothing says America like the NFL. Jason Kelsey is now a two-time sports Emmy nominee. That's right. Nominated a second time for outstanding sports personality emerging on Airtown. You are emerging as the greatest sports personality in sports. I've seen it since the first day that you showed your tits on ESPN that you were going to be great. And now you're getting nominated for an award that shows just how great your personality is, Jason. How many years until you're not -- no longer emerging? No longer emerging. How long is that? I don't know. I don't know. Well, how does it feel to be nominated again, Jason? Do you want me to be honest? No. Be kind. Okay. Feels great. Nice. Love every second of it. Your family's proud of you. I'm honored by the men and women who make these decisions. Yeah. The reason I think it's cool is because there's a lot of people that put a lot of hard time and work into making all the things that I fucking do. This podcast, the Monday Night Countdown crew, the desk that I'm on with, I'm on with some incredible experts and people that are actually the best at what they do in the sports analysis realm. I think it's fun to do all this stuff. I love sports. I love to still be involved. Despite being a retired player and given this platform to communicate with fans. So, yeah, it's an honor, but it's more importantly great to share the fact that I really don't do a lot. Team player. And a lot of other people work their ass off. I'll do that. Team player. Yeah. Yeah. You've always been one of the best teammates. And you got a shout out. Anytime you get in a war, you got to shout out everybody that, well, or a nominee. Every time you get a nominee, you got to shout out the people that help you get to where you are in life. Well, yeah. Congratulations, Jason. Thanks, Trev. And also, congratulations to you, Travis Kelsey is officially a Tommy boy. Tommy. Tommy. No, dude, it's so fun, man. I've signed on to be the global ambassador and creative collaborator with Tommy Hilfiger. I am so pumped, man. I've been such a huge Tommy fan since I was a kid. The '90s color blocking and just how iconic the logo is with the flag. I've just been I've been trying to figure out where to go in the fashion world because I do love, you know, obviously having fun things to wear and creating fun things to wear and expressing that. And I think, you know, my last one with American Eagle was so much fun and they were so unbelievable that I wanted to continue doing that. And and I think this opportunity is like the next level for me. It's going to be an amazing, amazing capsule when it comes out. And excited for this year's fall 2026 line as well, which is which is what I'll be pushing out first. Well, hell yeah. I can't wait to check it out. I love the last collaboration you did. I got it all right now. There's a little there's a little Tommy right here for you as well, man. Hello America. Here we go. For you. No, it's comfy, man. It's the best. You would love this one specifically. It's a nice, light knit. Light knit. Nice, light, breathable knit. You love those. I'm a big heavy knit guy now, though. That's sweet. You like the drapiness of the heaviness, right? Like you like how it kind of like, yeah, it's got that. I do. I do. It's got that. If it gets too light, it shows off my tits too much. I need it to kind of drape over the tits. You know what I mean? This will take care of your tits. We also got a new nickname for the Big Yeti. What? New nickname for the Big Yeti, Hoopsy, which we learned from the Chiefs who revealed this during your contract signing. Is this an actual nickname? Yeah. So my my O.G. in the room, Anthony Fasano. Shout out to Paison. Fasano. There you go. There you go. There you go. There you go. It's one of my favorites of all time. Him and Mike McGlynn. Big Greasy, man. Called me. Yeah. They saw me struggling coming out of the huddle every day with hoop earrings in and would screw up the play. And so they would call me instead of Hoopsy. They would call me Hoopsy. Hoopsy? It's a banger. It's a banger. So that was a young 2013-14 Travis running around the game. Yeah. That's a banger. Yeah. That's a banger. That's a banger. That's a banger. That's a banger. That's a banger. Yeah. That's a banger. So that was a young 2013-14 Travis running around the Kansas City facility screwing shit up being called Hoopsy. Do we need Hoopsy merch? Get Tommy Hilfiger on it. Get old Tommy boy on it. The Hoopsy line. We're bringing back the hoops. We're bringing back the earrings. You heard it here, Tommy. Hey, bigger the hoop. So that's it for New News. That's it for New News brought to you by Mike McGlynn. Thanks for watching. We'll see you next time. Bye. Bye. Bye. American Express. God damn, you're good, man. That was fucking great timing. It was sitting there. It was sitting there for the taking for sure. Let's get into a little Masters preview, Jason. 92%ers, we got something special for you. Golf majors season is kicking off this month. So for the next couple of episodes, we're going to, you know, talk some golf. Why not? Everybody loves golf. This Masters preview is brought to you by American Express. We're going to talk a little bit more golf. ridiculous degree between maintaining the course the beauty of it the hospitality of it like i just everybody the way they treat you the way it's done is just done at a level that's second to none and then the history of of the course the tournament there's just something so special about being down there so um i always want to go just as a spectator uh so to be able to go down there to be able to be there for the par three day one which i've never been to and to interact with some of the golfers and to see that course firsthand and then um maybe shed some light on some of the people that make augusta national so special right like everybody gets to watch a tournament they get to bc the best golfers in the world compete for probably the most prestigious thing in golf the green jacket and green jacket but there's a lot of other people that do a lot of work around that course that make that thing special do you think it's frowned upon to go out and i'm sorry i don't mean to interrupt i'm being silly go ahead finish no you're good should we get matching green jackets i think that's what do you mean that's what i'm saying you can't get a green jacket you can't like imitate a green jacket like i'm going to go get gold medals and go to the olympics what are we talking about here all right can we do gold jackets green jacket gold jacket who gives you no i'm not doing any whenever they ask so it's with the gold jackets green jacket gold jacket who gives this shit um matching jackets doesn't sound bad yeah we're outside of working there with the espn we're both actually going to be down at augusta it'll be fun to just enjoy it man it's it's so special with you you you put your phone down and you're in just this ridiculously beautiful course that feels like that ground was made for one thing and it was made to be a golf course and it's just i don't know man there's not really anything quite like it i don't know i had the fortune of going down to the masters uh during the covid year and there were no grand stands there were like limited amount of people i got to see that course and how they care about every single blade of grass and every single you know garden that they have on the walkways and it was just such a unique experience and um obviously you know it won't be that this time but i'm equally as excited to get to experience what it's like when the full madness is there and the hype is there and i'm excited to get to experience what it's like when the full madness is there and there's that many people breathing down uh these guys necks on the green and i'm just excited to get down there and uh and experience it a different way than i did last time well i'm excited to be down there with you because it's you got your uh you got your chair i got it i got my chair i'm bringing my chair we're posting up i what i didn't i didn't go chair i just went grass i just laid i got a second chair i got a second chair my guy tom nerney shout out to tom nerney hooked me up with the chair uh i got an extra chair i'll get your chair is it we'll set it down it's one of the official augusta national masters chairs okay yeah you set it down in your spot post up what hole should we post up on what's your favorite hole i kind of like walking around obviously amen's corner yeah that's it's lovely i kind of like this when we went we posted up at the the second or third day we went we posted up right around 15 where the the par five where it kind of bends around the trees there it's like a dog leg left and um and it's such a cool shot to me because it's kind of like an island green in a sense it's like you just got that water in front of it and you got to go over the water it's a shot now like you got to kind of place that drive you get to see how everyone tries to cut the corner or tries to you know play their whatever their strategy is and then that's a it's a hell of a shot for them to get there in two if they go for it it's just fun to kind of see you know which guys go for it where they're at the top and and yeah i think that's that's probably my favorite place obviously the par threes um there's not a bad par three on the course um i mean it's always fun to post up in a party you just see everybody so i like um i can't remember it's the par five that's two coming down the hill or three two coming down the hill is you got to hit it kind of perfectly or else that thing is falling i think it's two coming down that hill it ends in like so in the middle of the course of green right there and i think it's the par five if two is a par five it's two i believe you're correct i believe that is it i think it's two everyone tries to like hit it on that left side of that part of five it kind of goes left as well so you come down that hill but you're you're kind of centrally located so you can put your chair down there you're on the green but then you can also get up and walk to like multiple different holes in the area it's just a good like central location that's one of my favorite spots anyways i'm not gonna lie i like to kind of walk the course a little bit be bougie go to berkman's place go back out and walk the course a little bit more at the end fair enough yeah i'll be there wearing tommy all righty we have a uh voicemail from last year from a 92 percenter let's uh take a look at this regarding the masters really youngstown ohio first of all king hi i'm baby number four she's okay youngstown my no dumb question um falls around the masters that happened on sunday and if one of you guys won the masters what would your guys's ideal champions dinner be like love this question thank you for that question i think rory mcelroy's championship dinner just got announced if i'm not mistaken it came out yeah so the first one is rory's here we got some uh peach ricotta flatbread with a little hot honey basil and balsamic rock shrimp gotta love rock shrimp he's two for two on me right now bacon wrap dates and now i'm out grilled elk sliders why would you have elk when you just have beef caramelized onion jam i almost threw up oh i mean i caramelized onion all right yellowfin tuna got a spot you there's one thing there's two things i'm allergic to octopus and wagyu filet mignon seared salmon sticky toffee pudding great dessert great dessert all righty not bad mr mcgraw let's see what bubba's working with much more dated this is not as pristine of a menu it looks like 2013 grilled chicken breast jesus christ bubba what's wrong with the grilled chicken breast i mean nothing but it's i mean if a special occasion we can do better than a grilled chicken breast green beans mashed potatoes corn macaroni and cheese southern guys caesar salad chicken breast and confetti cake this is fucking hilarious you can have anything in the world bubba i'll do i'll do caesar salad this had something to do with augusta like he went to the chefs was like hey what are you guys known for and they were probably just like we make a mean grilled chicken mac and cheese i'm a fan of actually subverting um subverting sub traditional like american dishes but like making them at like a high-end meal like i think you go beans and weenies but you have them do it in the augusta way beans and weenies no chance have like the fanciest peanut butter and jelly imaginable i'm calling for in a situation like this but keep going what's another hamburger helper what are we doing what are we doing when's the last time you had for some reason but that's my point i used to love hamburger helper i would go complete nostalgia pb and j beans and weenies hamburger helper what else can we throw on this that we used to eat growing up get some dunkaroos in there i don't even know if they make dunkaroos anymore put those things in there what what is what was another thing in the kelsey family household that would be hilarious to put in a freaking master's championship dinner what were those little nutter butters what else man fucking gotta have some key lime pie in honor of ed kelsey i may see i'm in on key lime pie being the dessert that's nice all right all right key lime pie trying to think oh casserole gotta have a nice casserole in honor of ed kelsey stocked with cottage cheese to the brim it wasn't it was ricotta ricotta cheese it was thick and it was it was good in that but i can't do ricotta very much very often very cheesy very cheesy i'm trying to think what else just some georgio's pizza man mama kelsey's getting rolled it's gotta have some mama kelsey's dinner rolls mama kelsey dinner rolls that's got to be the first thing that comes out yes yes all right so mama kelsey mama mama kelsey's dinner rolls to start us off with a little uh beans and weenies i'm not doing beans and weenies in mine there's no chance i would ever force anybody to talk about mine it's the best the worst no i don't love absolutely shitting my brains out five minutes after i eat no i don't just fucking leaving a trail of fucking ass juice everywhere i go just like it's the worst i guess i would also that well that's another thing you use it to sabotage my stomach is made to handle beans and weenies if i'm playing again i'm going to sabotage the group i'm going to force all of you into this realm this stomach has been in you all are coming in to eat my beanies and weenies and you're not going to be able to survive it you grew up over in ireland rory you don't know what the fuck you're dealing with beans and weenies from bushes and fucking oscar meyer yeah you got a clue what you're ready for this guy's gonna be on that first tee wondering what the fuck hit him there's no way there's no way any of these fucking golfers your system's never seen this amount of nitrate You don't know what's happening to you. Don't wear white pants tomorrow, boys. You better wear dark shades. You better wear some dark shades. Preferably black or brown. This gut bacteria has been hardened through years of Ed Kelsey making him the cheapest meals possible in a microwave. That shit's fucking hilarious. All right. We gave it our best run, dude. Can't wait to see if Rory will eat beans and weans. I'm going to scream it at him on the T-Box. What would you honestly do, though, for your menu? What would you put in there? I mean, honestly, I feel like I'd go universal. I wouldn't make everybody fucking pay. I wouldn't make everybody enjoy it. Mama Kelsey's dinner rolls. I feel like you'd go smash roll. That's the thing. I'm going like a little smash burger, maybe some like some super salty fried chicken. I fucking I'd love. I mean, you're in. You're in. The South. So I feel like there should be some version of like Southern hospitality, Southern meal in there. I like what you're selling here. Yeah, I'm a big mac and cheese guy, too. I'd probably go similar to bubble, but a more updated version for sure. Maybe not just as simple as that, but the key lime pie is a nice finish. I've always liked the Dairy Queen ice cream cake, too. So maybe throw that fucker in there. I haven't been to there. I haven't had one in a long time. I talk about this. All the time. I don't know why people get regular. You know, they make ice cream cake, right? Why would you get a regular cake when you get a fucking ice cream cake? What are we even talking about? What are we talking about? I feel like half of the world's lactose intolerant anyways. All righty. Yeah, that does it for the Masters preview brought to you by AT&T. I can't wait to step foot down there in Augusta, man. I have some fun with the guys. Hi, 92% of this time for maybe the most handsome guest we've ever had on the show. Please welcome our next guest, Mr. John Hamm. Also, this conversation is brought to you by Apple. All right. 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That's right. We got big Rob Rigg. Rob Rigg. He had his nice seasoned beard. Oh, yeah, he's got a little salt in that pepper. He's all right. How does it feel to become a meme, by the way? That was the weirdest thing in the world. I am so not on social media. Like, I have zero footprint, literally. Yeah. I think I have. Like, I have a Facebook page from whatever, 2002. Those things are dangerous now, man. That's like a loaded gun, having a Facebook page now. For sure. Yeah, but I mean, I never engage with it. I just don't. So even when people send me, like, links to Instagram and stuff, I have to open them on the web. I don't have the app. I don't play. The reindeer games are not for me. Yeah. So I came home. I've been shooting up in Canada in Winnipeg, Manitoba, this next series that I'm doing called American Hostage. And I come home and I get a text from Brian Williams. I'm like, what does Brian Williams want? You know, it's like, okay, I open it up. And he goes, I hope you understand that this has been going around. And he was the first guy that sent me the link. I was like, first of all, Briwai, what's on your algorithm? He's doom scrolling, dude. He's doom scrolling. But no, then it blew up like crazy. It was bizarre. It's bizarre. It's just one of those things, you know. You got no control over it. You can't do that stuff on purpose. It just happens. Yeah, it has happened. And, you know, I guess it was the best way for it to happen. It was positive. It was pleasant. It was funny. It was awesome. It was all the other stuff. Absolutely. Hell yeah. It was iconic, man. Tell me, what's this new series? You said you're up in Winnipeg? Yeah, it's called American Hostage. It's about a real thing that happened in the 70s in the states in Indianapolis. It was a hostage situation where a guy took a bank manager hostage, tied a gun around his neck, and walked him around for 63 hours straight. Jesus. Yeah, it's real. It was 1977. I was six years old. You guys weren't born yet. But I was like, I vaguely have a recollection of this incident when it happened, but it was kind of the first time. It was the first thing that happened where a local story kind of blew up into national news. And I play the radio reporter that the hostage taker, he was his favorite radio guy, newsman. So he said, you got to get my story out. You got to tell the people my story. And so he's kind of conflicted. He's going live on the air with this guy who's a loose cannon who also has a dude at the end of a shotgun that could go sideways at any moment. So it's very tense. It's very exciting. Fuck yeah. It's going to be a good one. It'll come out in the fall at some point. Up in Winnipeg? Yeah, we're shooting Winnipeg, which is- I don't know how cold you guys have been recently, but minus 30 is real, man. Yeah. We got one of our college teammates, Zach Laird. Shout out to Zach. He's the quarterback for the Winnipeg Blue Bombers. Yeah. I went to the Grey Cup this year, which was super cool. Saskatchewan Rough Riders versus the Montreal Alouettes. Have you guys watched the NFL? It is fun. Three downs. Yep. Receivers can move forward before- Field's bigger, right? Way bigger. Yeah. Like way bigger. It's crazy. It's crazy. Dude. Love it, dude. We went up there a few times. Unfortunately, our guy got banged up the one game we went up there to go see him. So you're bad luck. Well, they won the Grey Cup that year, I believe. All right. They love it up there, man. They go crazy for it. Dude, it's awesome. And it's fun to watch. It is fun to watch. You're a football fan, right? I'm a football fan. You played football? I played in high school. I got recruited to play like D3, Ivy League, and it was like there was a- I played middle linebacker. In my high school, we played both ways. So I played offensive line and middle linebacker. Offensive line and middle linebacker, yeah. Chuck Bednarik. Exactly. Were you guys- I was a running back, though. We all wanted to be running backs, especially in high school football. That's all you did. But no, there was a choice, and I was like, I don't think I can- I wanted to go to college, and I wanted to not be in the weight room and not be in practice all the time. I hear you. It was like, for sure. Can we just touch on this? Look at the- Did you see his forehead? Yeah, kid. There he is. The Necro. The Necro guy. The Necro. Oh, this guy was fucking putting his forehead right on your chin. Fucking go. Absolutely. And arm sleeves. The old forearm shivers. There was not a pad I did not want to wear. I was like, I'll give you more. They don't even make hip pads anymore. How crazy is that? I don't know. I watch you guys. I'm like, how do you not do that? You had the hip pads and the butt pad. The little tailbone pad. For six years, I didn't wear any pads on my legs. That's bananas. Until they changed the rule back to be like, hey, you have to wear any pads and thigh pads. So what do they give you now? Like a credit card? It's the thinnest pad. And then you- Even once they give it to you, you cut it. You can't give me enough pads. That's what I'm saying, man. Guys are fucking putting their helmet right on my knee. Oh, dude, yeah. You've got to run across the middle. Charlie horses. Yeah, no. Give me as big- I just want my whole leg being a pad. Give me a force field. I look at all these receivers. I'm like, dude, you guys are getting your shit fucked up. Put some goddamn pads on. For sure. For sure. What is harder, playing football or being an actor? That's a good question. Playing football. I mean, seriously. No way. Nobody's coming at you to try to take. your head off in the middle of a scene you don't have to keep your head on a swivel when you're when you're in the middle of a scene it's just not that hard it takes mental energy it takes preparedness obviously both both of the disciplines do but but the funniest thing about and you've probably had both of you probably had you know my buddy glazer worked on your show with you guys absolutely you know how it is to be on camera it's it everything gets a little hyped up a little little you get a little nervous and all that stuff and it takes experience and and reps to to get it down to where you feel comfortable doing it like anything else yeah exactly i'm sure if you put anybody on an nfl field in a moment even if they were fit enough to play the the the grandeur and the largeness of the moment would freak them the fuck out no doubt right and so that's what happens sometimes when you get on stage when you get on set and the lights are on and things ready and whatever's going i remember one of the first movies i ever did was called we were soldiers with mel gibson and uh great kaneer sam elliott a bunch of cast of thousands it was great vietnam war movie really really cool and we had this one it's one setup uh that was the whole day it was just one thing for the whole day and at the end of the day the guy hits the button and the whole place blows the fuck up and it was crazy we had all these lines and all these things we had all these cameras everywhere we run on 11 cameras and mel's in the middle of it he's calling in the airstrike and the director is basically like if you forget your line if you fuck up just keep going because we got one shot at this and so it goes around and around and around at the end of the thing they hit the buttons and the whole fucking forest explodes and they call it and they call it and they call it and they're like that's a wrap like we're done like okay we're like okay we did it and it's and we were all talking to mel we're like don't you get like nervous like what would he go and he goes no that's crazy man we just that's what just what i do yeah and you think about that of course in your line of work too like patrick mahomes is like he's this is what i do yeah it's well the old texas gunslinger he's right he's a little different he's built a little different i was uh i was just at waste management i was on i was uh playing in the pro am that's a real thing man so i that's what i'm saying you're talking about like being in a moment where you're like oh shit you walk into that thing and it's like the thunderdome it's like yeah it's like the coliseum it's like how the fuck did i get here yeah you have to stand over a ball this size and fucking hit it you've hit a million times that you know you can do i had that experience i played augusta after the after the masters the year the last year that tiger won whatever it was 2018 you can do a thing where they keep the pins in the same place and you play that you don't play from the from the tips but man so cool still though and i'm like oh my god i'm like oh my god i'm like oh my god i'm like oh and i was standing on the first tee and i literally i lined up and wrapped a decent golfer i was like ready to play and i looked down and my knees are doing this and i was like wait a minute no yeah and i i stepped back i was like come on now and then i've stepped up and i striped it but i mean i was like whoa dude that was a real i was like having a moment man you kidding me you already know yeah jason you uh you got a little experience of that that whole one it's like sitting right there yeah man not good not a good start to the day not a good start was it good numbers are falling down so your friends and neighbors second season coming out what do we expect there's a little twist at the end of the first season like i didn't i expected i thought you had gone good again right right right so you know most of the second season is kind of dealing with the fallout of the first season you say about you know he he kind of dips back into that world decides not to kind of go on straight and narrow yeah and then there's a massive kind of chaos agent that is comes in who's a new guy in the neighborhood and it's like who's this dude and uh he's he's not as he appears to be there's some shadiness and there's some stuff in it and it the whole season kind of leads up to how do we manage that and it's it's great it's it's it's super compelling television it's fun it's funny it's sexy it's it's uh you know it's really i'm i love the show it's fantastic i was gonna say this is it feels like it's obviously you're like like your range is crazy but in terms of this character it feels a little different is this like a new experience for you i mean look i get having the majority of my kind of notoriety and fame be invested in madman the period piece is a very specific thing kind of this very brooding dark character to be able to play something contemporary that's funny and real and kind of you know someone that you could walk down the street and legitimately recognize if i walked out of the street in don draper gear people are like what the fuck what's going on it's not halloween dude like what are you doing but if i if i you know walked in in andrew cooper gear it's this is a normal person and and it's uh so there's a lot of like that familiarity with that kind of character but also that kind of deal of like the one percent you know people that really live that crazy life for sure how is that you know how does that work out and is that is that all there is is that the kind of thing that people really want you know it's it's fun it's a little bit wish fulfillment and kind of fuck you to those people too so for sure no it's fun fuck yeah i'm always here for a it helps man dude so you mentioned uh going to ut kind of being football isn't it i want to go a different route did you know that acting and i had done a lot of acting in high school i had done it basically since i was a little kid um i was never like a child actor or anything like that but it was just always something i had i had i was raised by a single mom my mom passed away when i was 10 so then i live with my dad and then you know i was always in whatever extracurricular after school i was always in whatever extracurricular activities i could get you know whether it was bowling team or cub scouts or this is everything man it was literally like just do that and so sports was obviously a big part of that and growing up in midwest all you have are empty fields and whatever season it is that's the sport you play you know it's like baseball in the springtime football in the fall you know the wintertime was hockey but i i couldn't afford all that gear so more it was just like whatever we could do oh yeah and it was fun you know that was that was the big part of it it was you growing up as a as a boy especially all you have is energy you just want to like run through a wall and so when i got into football in in seventh and eighth grade when i when i went to uh the school i ended up going to that was the that was the saving grace dude end of the day all this energy you're like let's let's go hit something man like it was fun and i was decent at it but um but i knew that you know that's a choice as you guys well know that's a commitment man you got to be in in the weight room you got to be training you got to be fit you got to be ready to go and i was like i think i just want to be i want to do this other thing which i know i can do at a high level i'd always gotten good feedback from people that oh yeah we're like hey man you're kind of good at this yeah and then it becomes it's not i mean it is i guess a lot like football like you got to get picked you know what i mean you can't just go and like i'm going to be an actor in my room by myself that's being a crazy person you got to be a little a little crazy a little good at everything yeah yeah for sure so then you know it was like you go to either la or new york basically right it wasn't happening in st louis so i was like all right i packed up my stuff and i was like i'm going to go to st louis and i'm going to go to i had 150 in my name my grandfather gave me a check for a hundred dollars and that hell yeah my money yeah yeah and i bailed out i went i went west man and that was it in 1995 so you know i've i've i've i felt like i had to give it give it a try or i or it would have been the two saddest word in in the english language like what if yeah you know so off i went and it only took three or four years to get it going i live with that so much because i always say what if i could have played quarterback in the national football league see i just couldn't put the reefer down man you wanted to be a basketball player you wanted to be a basketball player is what you wanted to be i did i did i really just wanted to play basketball in the big east i knew i didn't have a chance at the nba i couldn't fucking dribble but i knew i could play college basketball for sure i knew i could fuck i couldn't guard anybody but you can put me in a zone and i can yeah exactly dude throwing bows i'm gonna use all five that was the one thing playing basketball growing up my dad came up he says you get five of them if you don't use three you're not playing the game right i was just like got it files out before the fight like every game just getting filed out so st louis that it is crazy we talked to we're obviously really connected with kansas city right wriggle brad jason sudeikis and i think they used to do like this improv thing as kids or something like that if you're talking to them was there some city yeah it just i've never heard of these paths out of these like small midwestern like markets are there like a bunch of like st louis people yeah you know because i was a teacher i went back to my old my old high school and i taught school this is so cool man i graduated mizzou and my z zou all right man i graduated mizzou at 93 and then i went back and taught at my old high school because i needed a job like i was waiting tables and bartending and all the other stuff but i was like i need a fucking job like i need a real job with a real paycheck and a real schedule i can't do this anymore because i was so old at 24 um and i pitched myself because the guy that was teaching theater at at my high school who had taught me i said you you you have too many students like you need a you need a junior teacher you need a helper yeah and he goes sounds great let's pitch it to the to the headmaster the big man i go great and i knew him he knew me from being a student i was a really good student i was a three sport varsity athlete i was in the theater department i had good credit quality yeah yeah and i had a i had a a theater scholarship from mizzou and i'd done a bunch of plays and i was like just let me come in for a year try it out what's the worst thing that could happen so i did it was great they asked me to come back for another year and i was like i'd love to but i gotta try this out i gotta go i'm not getting any hell yeah but one of my students was ellie kemper yeah who was in unbreakable kimmy schmidt with me and bridesmaids with me and other things so i was like i got a chance to walk the red carpet twice with one of my students that's awesome um and yeah we had we had a bunch of kids that were really really good at it it's sometimes these clusters just kind of happen you know that right uh that the talented kids find their way, and I was one of them in my class. from my my graduating class from burroughs and st louis sarah clark uh was in 24 like we had a bunch of kids that made it out so you know what happens yeah very cool louis representing yes indeed i love it man i always feel like any time i'm like giving back in that regard like i always find a way to like say something and then it gets reiterated in my brain like man i kind of got away from that like whatever it is i'm teaching or like whatever like the fundamental is or the mindset yeah yeah it reminds you what you're supposed to be kind of makes you stay more sharp on your own fundamentals you know for sure yeah i would imagine i mean i'm sure you guys do youth clinics and whatnot and stuff of course you know because the little kids look up to you guys like you're hung dude you already know not just that like every single year you reinstall the playbook yeah right so like you'd be sitting in this meeting it's like how many more times can i listen to like inside zone be installed yeah like it is mind-numbing to a point where i say yeah i'm going to step with my right foot check my a gap and yada yada yeah right but um and then you go oh wait every once in a while yeah right every once in a while like stout would have like the guys teach it or something like that right and it does feel like when you're teaching it or a rookie would ask you a question and in your own way of like re-describing like i forgot that i think about it that way you know what i mean well the whole point i would imagine because it's the same with us is is that you do it and you do it and do it until you essentially forget it and it becomes second nature right you know how to do it so well blacking out yeah yeah right for me it's like it's non-stop football is non-stop evolving like the plays are non-stop evolving like the more you the more coverages you see because that play works you're going to see different coverages trying to stop it so the play is non-stop it's evolving on how i need to run this route how i need to do this and then it's like it gets to the point where it's like not i'm thinking about this coverage this coverage this covers this coverage how i'm going to run it here and coach reid will just come up to me he's like just run the fucking round you know what i'm just like get it back down to the ball yeah for sure i will just run it how you how you teach it i'll run it how you teach it that happens every year too right yeah whoever wins the super bowl everybody imitates them for the next season right that's what basically what happens okay now we're going to run that and that that defense is going to work against this or not yeah and they it's like you said it's constantly evolving and that's what's really fun to watch it if you like if you love the game and you know the game and you really watch the game kind of that granular level for sure that's what becomes really cool and i think that's like when romo first came into the booth and was starting to call all that stuff you're like holy shit right you you still know this hell yeah it's it's like amazing absolutely obviously we keep mentioning st louis the rams we got to talk about the rams because how are you chief's kingdom here's what happened let me okay i'll give you the history of my football rooting right now please and i bring this up to roger goodell every time i see him and i did it again 1989 the cardinals moved from st louis to arizona so um we're fucked and i go god damn it but then they're like no you're gonna get an expansion franchise and we had picked out we had the logo picked out it was the stallions it was terrible but then they go no just kidding it's going to carolina and jacksonville and we were like really god damn it then it becomes like well maybe we maybe we can get the rams to move to st louis and everyone's like they're not going to move to st there's no way of course they build this half a billion dollar stadium they go hey all of a sudden the rams are in st louis 94. the year next year i moved to la so the rams are now in st louis but i'm in l.a that's funny and they're terrible the first couple years they're terrible rich brooks i can't remember who the who the coach was we came from oregon he he was not ready for the for the pro game at all like it was just tony who was our quarterback oh my god anyway it was bad until dick vermeel shows up oh yeah and then all of a sudden kurt warner shows up and then marshall fogg shows up and then isaac bruce shows up and then tory holt shows up and it was like all of a sudden this nucleus coalesced and it was the greatest show on turf and mike martz oc and it was like oh my god like then it was football became a thing in st louis and people were crazy i went to one game at the at this at the stadium and i'll never forget it it was like the place was electric and i used to go to see football when the cardinals with my dad in minus 10 degree weather aluminum benches weren't even seats like aluminum benches so cold so deeply cold yeah um and this was like indoors in the dome there was a play i'll never forget it i got there like five minutes late luxury football right here this was st louis versus atlanta i can't remember what year it was but i i got to the game five minutes late there were five minutes off or there was a minute off the clock because what had happened was the first kickoff was run back for a touchdown and then the ensuing kickoff was run back for touch it was 7-7 before i even got to sit down that's some action what is happening yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so right before the half it was a fourth and 30 and they were like well they might and they didn't even punt it was like warner just lines up on her center and throws a dart to tory holder who like a a deep post tutorial and they score yeah fourth and 30 right before the half you're like okay this is this is a team worth watching that was super fun to watch then they win the super bowl in 2000 and they should have beat the patriots in 2001 i have a theory about that but uh and then they moved back to l.a and then they they moved back to l.a and then they they they moved to back to l.a they'd win the super bowl in l.a uh with stafford oh yeah so that's when i like i got nothing left in st louis then it's like well at least i got the team in missouri on the other side and that's the ascendancy of you guys and and everybody there now they're moving that to kansas so i'm like come on man where do i go from here the battle hawks i mean i don't know but it's no it's still it's great uh watching watching the chiefs come together in the way that they have paul and paul rudd and i've been buddies since high school since i was 15 he was love that dude man we were at the game when the first super bowl you guys won he was there with his son oh jackman 15 or 16 years old he was so emotional he got a bloody nose he was just like ah i remember that oh yeah it was awesome he got to go down that was in miami i think yeah yeah that was really really fun but it's been great you know it's been great to watch you your your success as well i mean couldn't happen to two nicer guys that's all i'll say you're the man dude we too got our team shipped as kids so we know that yeah for sure right yeah now i look at the baltimore ravens as basically the evil empire yes and what could have been in cleveland because they ended up going on to like win a super bowl within the first like five years yeah just non-stop success yeah yeah but hello so is it favorite football player growing up uh either cardinals or rams or i mean oj anderson i loved mel gray i loved we're going back to the old cardinals hell yeah dan deardorff who's a lineman who i really loved and i got to know him a little bit afterwards uh rest in peace he's a great guy wonderful wonderful man and a huge like supporter of the city you know one of those guys was just like okay everybody knew dan it was like stan musial in the cardinals it's like everybody knew him he was around town all the time you'd see him he'd say hey how you doing you got a steakhouse you know you just show us the best dude that kind of midwestern thing like it is in kc i know you guys have the restaurant in kc we got a crazy ambassador program around there when i first got there the first the first like meeting you have is literally with the ambassadors of the chiefs like the owner clark hong comes in with it's called the little rookie meeting and you're sitting there with the guys that have played and stayed around in the city it's nice you just hear all the stories r.i.p len dawson he was like one of the first conversations i had in kc and i'm just like man i'm speaking to you meet those hall of famers and you're like wow you know that's it's real it's real and it and it really enforces the idea that the community is is is huge part of the success of the franchise that's why it's so devastating when when the teams when the teams leave you're like come on man like it's crazy did you watch any college football this year kurt cignetti the uh national championship coach i didn't see the whole national i saw the highlights of the game but i was very much paying attention to indiana the whole season have you heard of these calls for you to play kurt cignetti in the movie no oh apparently there's a picture running around i had a lot of friends that went to iu because that was a big uh destination if you're in st louis it was just about a three-hour drive and we had some fun we had some fun uh weekends up at iu he's a character now he's got that old ball coach feel for sure high energy but even like the new high energy like the mcveighs of the world you know what i mean like like it's a different world like the he's just got this like old wisdom well and he's got the confidence of just like you're not gonna stop what i'm gonna give you yeah sorry yeah you're about to get a taste of this it doesn't matter damn okay i mean it's it's pretty baller like the guy is just straight up and he does i mean how about that indiana running the wild yeah i mean i know they got a lot of money behind them too but that's still crazy that's just the new reality like alabama doesn't like seriously my god pat mahomes over there at texas tech right oil money down there yep they're they're ready how did you guys get all these transfers in every sport tcu all those all those kind of plays were historically were kind of second tier things now iu yep like now all of a sudden which is i don't know i think it's kind of great yeah no i think it's nice it's a nice refresh i mean right alabama was on a run there for a while it was yeah yeah you think and it's like all right it feels like now the tables are at least a little more even yeah right like i'm with you it's not just the haves and have-nots the haves and the haves moors but whatever no i'm with you i love it we're big fans of comedies what's your favorite comedy movie comedy movie yes well that's a good question um i mean look it i i had the good fortune to be able to remake fletch which is one of my absolute favorites and i had the good fortune to meet chevy i was i met him he kind of he kind of and ambushed me in the in the lax airport lounge yeah it was like seven o'clock in the morning i was actually getting ready to fly to to fort worth to to do landman okay and i'm scooping out my shitty microwaved eggs or whatever in the lounge you know exactly what i'm getting ready to eat you know you're like oh boy it's too early for anything but i gotta get something i gotta get something to get i hear this guy go hey i heard you played fletch and i turn around chevy chase and i was like oh my god that's insane oh yes i did mr chase oh my god i'm so it's so nice to meet you i love all your work i i've all i do was was watch your movies growing up i love doing snl like i just love bomb the guy i like yeah floored him with the avalanche of like and i was getting ready to go work with demi more and what my wife's favorite movie one of my wife's favorite movies is is this movie that you probably if you've seen it good luck it's called nothing but trouble directed by dan ackroyd dan ackroyd plays like this weird crazy character it's it's nuts look it up i gotta watch that one but it's uh it's it's uh chevy and demi more so i said i'm actually starring with one of your co-stars yeah i'll give her my best this that and the other anyways so cool it starts with fletch but then i thought he was gonna come in hot with something well i did too and that's why i was waiting for the i was waiting for the judo love you know you already know that's hilarious that's good because i felt like there might have been a little a little shot underneath yeah yeah but no that all of his movies and he went on a run you look at caddyshack you know that's what we grew up on my yeah the 80s my my that was what you did you rented movies that was all you did throughout high school it's just you rent them rent five movies and watch them five times over the weekend and that was it but i man uh big lebowski that's another one that i absolutely love you know i got a chance to work with jeff bridges uh in my career so you know it's i'm bad times bad times the oriole yeah yes indeed i love that fucking movie i mean it's a great film i make great movies that nobody sees stop that's uh that's kind of i actually got i made a movie called million dollar arm that was based on the career of this guy jb bernstein who represents barry sanders uh and he was at the honors last night so i was able to say hi to him and he is funny he's you know he's this tall and he's just a hard worker you guys i can't believe you got to play me i go i got to play you you got me to play you that's yeah but you know having a career doing it as long as i've been able to do it it's really nice to be able to look back and be be proud of what you what you've done and to work with the people that you've gotten a chance to work with hell yeah all of that stuff is amazing you know it's it's uh being in something like top gun well that i remember walking on that set and there's a six-story high american flag and tom cruise is walking toward me all i could see is a smile yeah walking toward me and i was like how you doing are you ready to go i'm like i am thanks for the cup of joe right there but i was like this must be weird for you this is the same set that you shot on 25 years ago this is weird he goes it's crazy it's crazy we're doing it again that's amazing it was fun man well i uh i share an honor with you of uh standing on that snl stage man when i tell you still to this day one of the coolest fucking things i've ever done um your time on snl do you have a favorite skit do you have a couple yeah i was gonna i mean i have a couple man i've hosted four times and i was and i was i've been on the show like probably 15 more times and it's it's it's such a unique experience as you know there's there's not a whole lot out there like live television i also did two 30 rock lives on that same stage so it's super fun but when i first started hosting i had the home run hitters man i had the the all-stars it was wig forte armisen sudeikis legends everybody on that show were were were just were just home run hitters so the ones i did with wig we had so much fun the warmer she's the don't make me sing so fun i did a sketch with will forte that would never get on the air now that was a halloween sketch where will comes to the door rings the bell i answer the door and he's he says happy halloween i said are you what are you dressed at he said i'm a child molester can you sign and date these papers i'm like wait what what's up what actually is happening look it up it would never get on the air again but boy oh boy it was funny uh so i know i have i have tons of great memories like that and as you well know man when you're getting ready to go on that stage and that band is playing and thumping and ready to go in that door man that is and no one realizes it but there's about a foot behind that door you were up against the wall my shoulders are touching yeah the door yeah yeah it's the same thing and then she's screaming out five four three there you go you shot out of a cannon and you hold on for dear life but it's fun it's so much fucking fun you looked like you were having a good time on it i noticed that we grew up on the farrells and the farleys and sanders so it's like that was inch heavy like my my mom and dad were huge like snl it was a cultural moment and it's so funny thinking back because i watched it when i was a little kid i mentioned my my my parents split up when i was younger if i was at my dad's house for the weekend i got to watch that's gonna be a little act right for sure and like super inappropriate i was five six years old like you know whatever but i was i was into the land shark and you know oh yeah so fucking cool all the stuff man it was so good it was so because it was so transgressive there wasn't anything like it and if you didn't see it you didn't see it there was no dvr there was no clips on the next day crazy even imagine you had to talk to you know you had to go to school the next day and not or monday and not have have seen snl be a you were on the back foot man it was not great absolutely that's funny as fuck all right last one welcome to hollywood moment do you have one i remember i mean like i said i hadn't i had no money when i when i when i rolled into hollywood and then i remember i'd gone i had to go back to st louis to do a play that got me my equity card that got me into the union that got me into this and that then i got my car towed because i had like two thousand dollars worth of parking tickets that i wasn't sniffing around and i was like oh my god i'm so sorry i'm so sorry i'm so sorry i'm so being able to pay yeah so then one day i just looked outside i was like well i guess that's gone so now i'm on the bus okay and i was working a restaurant job and trying to audition and you know it's la is not a easy place to use public transportation yeah so i remember i had i had rollerblades and i would throw the rollerblades over my shoulder get on the bus as close as i could get to wherever my audition was and then laid it laid it out you were blading it around la in la i mean not safe so i'd show up sweaty as a motherfucker to whatever commercial audition ivory soap or whatever you know i'm just being like i don't think i'm gonna get this i look like a hundred pounds of dirty laundry right now but uh yeah i mean it's you just do what you can you ain't nothing to it but to do it that was the first lesson i learned was like listen no one's gonna give you any excuse you just gotta figure it out you gotta send a man can't live with those yeah and you just and you gotta figure it out you know it's like it's hard life is hard i remember my best friend growing up he was the best man in my wedding uh his dad played professional baseball ted simmons maybe you know maybe you don't oh yeah hall of fame great guy wonderful man kind of a surrogate dad to me after my dad passed away especially and uh when i was going through you know all my transitional difficulties and whatever trying to figure out where am i gonna go how am i gonna make it my dad just died what am i gonna do he goes look a lot of sad stories in the world a lot of sad stories i played with guys that grew up not only did they not have parents they didn't have a glove you know but they were they were gifted you know they grew up in the dominican they grew up wherever and they just made it happen no one's gonna make it happen for you you gotta make it happen for yourself and i really took that lesson to heart i still do every day it's like it's on you to figure it out and i listen we're all very very fortunate in our lives right you're for sure not just health but but the career opportunities all the other things getting picked like you said man getting picked but it's what you do after you get picked do you come do you come correct do you show up you know we can all get in the batter's box and and no one bats a thousand right no one but if you if you show up and you're prepared and you're ready to go that's what that's what it's all about and i've been a really fortunate in my career that i've had those moments i'll never forget the first day shooting madman i remember looking at myself in the mirror and going okay you got the job what are you gonna do with it hell yeah man and it was that's what it's all about and i've been really fortunate in my career that i've had that moment that's great it was that moment where i was like i'm gonna fucking kill this i'm gonna kill it that's what i'm gonna do with that's so bad dog it was it's challenging easy i don't know if everybody could do it everybody would yeah but that's the beauty of it being that challenging those yes when you fight through and you get to you know where you are now you look at uh uh bobby last night bobby right man yeah what a story yeah dude it's those kinds of those kinds of stories that you go all right you know i had no idea about bobby and his and his story like that so that was another like i've always appreciated his game for sure and then obviously when you get underneath that face mask all of a sudden you get to hear you know how how amazing the guy really is yeah crazy we'll let you get out of here brother thank you for all the fucking time thank you for the wisdom man my pleasure go dog can't wait to see uh everything that you got season two coming out april 3rd 3rd the third there we go thank you to our partner apple there's nothing like your first mac i forgot about it i forgot about it i forgot about it i forgot about it i forgot about first got mine when my dad brought home a mac and i felt like i was the coolest kid in the world because i could finally get on a messenger it was like the coolest thing ever as a kid because you got to text your friends and all be on the same chat. 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Try YouTube Premium for two months free at YouTube.com slash premium. Trial eligibility varies. Terms apply. Cancel any time. Thank you to Jon Hamm. Once again, that conversation was brought to you by Apple. Last thing before we wrap up, let's take a look at the old New Heights, Reese's, March Madness bracket challenge guy. Yeah, baby. He's been having some upsets, some incredible games. How about that UConn-Duke ending? That was insane. Yeah, that was absolutely insane. I was watching that on my iPad, because we were on vacation this week, and audibly screamed in a. I hadn't jumped out of my seat from a sporting event in a long time, and it was fucking magical when he fucking hit that three. I was like, in my mind, I'm like, too much time when he threw it up, and I was just like, I was just fucking. He drained me. The moment the ball got tipped, you're like, oh, no. They're going to have a chance to chuck a three. And then they passed it. He caught it. Didn't like anything, so he just fucking threw it to the first open guy. Oh, man. It was so fucking epic. He also said shit on live television, I believe, when he was in his post-game talk with the reporter on the court. Yeah, freshman. Freshman getting used to the whole situation. A lot of emotions. I get it, man. And also. It was one of those. Who didn't say shit at some point? Even the head coach's mom is in the stand saying, holy fucking shit. Yeah, right? It was epic, dude. Yeah, Dan Hurley, obviously head-butting officials. Always love to see that. Well, let's get into our bracket. Shout out to the 92 percenters and the leaders of the women's bracket. Emily Interante is in the lead. In second place, we got Amanda Trujillo, who both have UConn winning. And then we have somebody rolling with the game, Cox Vanessa. Vletcha. I don't know if any of these names are pronounced correctly. Sorry if they're not. But congratulations. You're doing some pretty good job. It does seem like if the Gamecocks win, Vanessa might have a chance. Ooh. All right. Men's leaders, we have Connor, who has got Michigan. Second place, we have Abby Pierce rolling with the Illini. The Illini. I did not know that the Illini. I have not watched college basketball. Yeah, that was one of the highlights I remember seeing. And these boys. These boys know how to hoop, man. Dude, I'm enjoying watching them. I mean, they knocked out my team. Fucking Houston, goddammit. They forgot how to play offense. But anyways, great job to the Serbs. The Balkans. Dude, the Balkans are killing it, man. They're freaking lighting it up a lot of itches and witches. Abby Pierce knew. Abby Pierce knew. Or Yakovitches. Yeah, no, they're killing it. James Lewison, UConn. James has UConn. And then Austin Stilger has Arizona. All right. So the top. The four all have different teams. I do think Arizona's going to win. Although I did think Houston was going to win. So what the fuck do I know? I also have watched no basketball. I'm not going to lie. I'm fucking jacked up. I'm pumped up right now. Because this is going to be a hell of a Final Four, man. These teams, I think, all match up pretty goddamn well. And Michigan's been playing their tail off. I didn't know how big Michigan was, man. Michigan's got like an NBA fucking frontcourt, man. But it's going to be fun to watch these guys go. And it looks like UConn's got the juice right now after that last win against Duke. Yeah. White's staff update is currently tied for first in the men's bracket. Our intern Brandon and researcher Diana, who both have Arizona winning it all. Jason is in second, but had Houston winning it. Travis is in third. That's me. Also have Arizona winning it. So I can't pass Brandon or Diana, but I can take over Jason. You will pass me. Probably. All right. Jack Shake is in sixth, but will win it all if Michigan makes. The finals. Oh, wow. Wow. That's crazy. This is a tight race. Yeah. In the women's bracket, Brandon and Diana also tied for first. Okay. They watch basketball. Interesting. And Brandon has Texas winning, and Diana has UConn winning it. Jason is in second with South Carolina winning it. And no one from the New Heights production team picked UCLA to win it all. I don't know why that's in there. All right. New Heights staffer. That is in trouble. Loser with a whopping zero points gained after a round of 32. Our official loser of the men's bracket is our producer, Aaron Lorick. Sorry, Aaron. Apologize for throwing you under the bus there. We got to do better, though. It's honestly insane. I don't know if I've ever had seen anybody with zero points gained after the round of 32. He missed. Like, even if you're flipping a coin and picking, he missed all 16 games. That's crazy. That's wild. It was upset central over there in Aaron's bracket. He definitely just clicked. There's a click that says you can have it automatically filled out. He hit that for sure. Guaranteed. I say that because the women's loser, and finally with 68 points, but no more points remaining, our official loser of the women's bracket is me. Yes, it is. How are we feeling, Trav? I feel pretty upset. That I let it get to this point. But, you know, you just got to do better in life. And you got to understand the circumstances better. And you got to understand that your brother is going to go out and cheat. And there's nothing you can do about it. What are you so upset about, Travis? Why are you so upset? What are you so upset about? What am I so upset about is that this was just a friendly competition. And then after I submitted my fucking bracket and you hadn't submitted a bracket yet, we decide as a group. This is a false timeline. Let him talk. Let him talk. Let him talk. During the show, you started to fill out a bracket. Did you not? No, I did not fill out a bracket. I was talking about on the final four. In the show, I literally told you guys I have not even looked at the brackets yet. How am I supposed to do a bracket recap? And I just started bullshitting in the final four. And then you gave us a final four. And then we talked about their. There being some type of punishment for the loser on the show for. But the final four, because I didn't know that we were doing. No, you can make bracket adjustments up until it's due. You can make it just until it's due. Thank you, Brandon. Thank you, Brandon. Just close because you close. Nobody can come up. There's a guy like it. I didn't submit a bracket. I already had submitted it because I did. No, you didn't. Neither of you looked at the bracket. We recorded the show under false pretext. No pretenses. Neither of you didn't look at the bracket. Erroneous. Erroneous. The timeline. You're misleading. You are misleading with the timeline. Bullring nose piercing. Well, that's a new. Have Howard beating fucking Michigan. No, I wouldn't. You thought they were due. I'm just going to throw it out there. Your bracket was not submitted until after we talked about there being a punishment on the show. Punishments were talked about. That is a true statement. We hadn't decided. We hadn't decided on one, but the idea of your punishments was going to come up. Yes. Nobody's going to have to get pierced. We're not piercing you. We're not going to pierce you. The woman's bracket. You're right. I took a chance on Iowa. That's fair. Dude, women's bracket. Just slide that everyone's forward. What is the, is there a punishment for both brackets or only for the men's bracket? The punishments are for new heights team members only. Yes. And I believe we already have our loser of the men's. I trusted the power of Caitlin Clark, Claire Kittle, and George Kittle. Oh, a little. - Little name drop. I like you worked the name drop in there. That's good. - Sounds good. My friend George and Caitlin. I don't know if you've heard of them. I don't know if you guys heard. My friend, I just call her Kate. I may be a loser in the bracket, but I'm a winner in life. You just feel the energy from you. Like, those are good people. I'm going to pick Iowa. In the women's bracket. You did pick them in the men's as well. That was a better bet. Yeah, I didn't have them go into this Elite Eight, though. So the bet is only for the men's bracket? We're not incorporating the loser in the women's bracket? Oh, no, I know. That is kind of sexist. Yeah. So what is the ratio? How do we figure this out? How is it determined who is the loser of both brackets? I'm glad we're figuring this out at the end of it. This is awesome. Give it to me, Brandon. I know you got something. No, Travis, you've already lost the women's. Tell me what I've lost. You lost the women's bracket. So who has to eat the waffles at the Waffle House? Well, if that's the punishment we'd like, Travis might be joining. Wait, what? How the fuck am I going to find the third place? You lost the women's. So there's going to be two people that have to do this. I feel like we should do two punishments. Yeah, that's only fair. We should do two punishments. Do you guys understand how betting works? We talked about there being a punishment, Travis. We all agreed to a punishment. We all agreed to it. There was a blood oath. Nobody agreed to the agreed to punishment. We said it on Mike. We said it on Mike. On Mike is sacred. We also said on Mike, Jason's final four in the men's bracket. Well, if he didn't submit, he didn't submit. He didn't submit. You can put anything you want in there. Before you hit submit, it doesn't count. You can do whatever you want until the ball is snapped. You think I'm going to trust Wyatt, Travis? I did. I did. I trusted your daughter, and your daughter has no integrity. She knows fucking nothing. Well, let me tell you, she does know nothing. She is six. What are you teaching her over there, huh? She doesn't even know who'd win in a fight. She's starting to figure out how to use her numbers to do math above the number 10, Travis. That's who you trusted to even get 16. We got to get her in the advanced classes, Jason. She can barely count to the number of teams in the NCAA tournament. There's no way. She's six years old and can't count? She can. She can definitely count. I said barely. That's what I was going to say. Takes a second. Once she gets to 100, it starts to get a little dicey, but she's. Does she just do the thing where she just starts counting and just wants you to know how high she can count? Yes, we're in that stage. I was hanging out with some children. They're like, you want to see something cool? I was like, sure. And they're like. I was like, you want to Ohio count? I was like, oh, fuck. No, I don't. And then they just went. We got to 45. I was like, do you want to go outside? Welcome to 98, 99 bottles of beer on the wall, but we're not going to stop early. We're going to keep it going. Do you want to Ohio and count? I'm like, oh, no, that sucks. That's a terrible trick. I don't know. I think you can kind of, you can kind of shut your brain off once they start counting, right? You don't have to like keep them honest. You'd be surprised. You'd be surprised. You could just let them go. No. Especially when you've already heard it a bunch. All right. Do you want to go? Do you want to? All right. Let's do, let's maybe podcast. So the men's bracket is still up. Oh, there is a loser in the men's bracket. Who's the loser in the men's bracket? Aaron. We could do one overall loser of combined worst score. Would you guys rather do that? Yeah. Are we? No. Well, then what do you want to do? You're being fussy. Can we stop acting like eating waffles at a waffle house? Is that big of a punishment? As long as you do it before training camp, you're fine. But how do I, in every waffle is an hour. Here's Aaron. Here's Aaron. Aaron, explain your fucking waffle bracket. You got 24 hours and every waffle is an hour. Can specialty waffles, like if I eat a blueberry waffle, can I add like an extra 30 minutes taken off or like, no, you're straight? No. No, I will not allow it. Aaron, I know your, your work hours. You have nothing but time. Hey, Travis is the one who's got stuff going on. I'd rather do a drinking situation than do a fucking waffle situation like this. I'd rather have to sit at a bar from start to finish. Can we go to Chili's? The punishment isn't about what you would rather do, loser. The punishment is a punishment. We didn't agree that this is going to be the punishment. We agreed to a punishment. We did agree to a punishment. That is, that is on record, but we did agree to a punishment. Not a drinking festivities with your buddy, Aaron. What if we ask one of our guests today, Coach Calhoun, what the punishment should be? No. We're going to do Coach Calhoun. I'm going to ask him. That's my one question to Coach Calhoun. Aaron, how did you not get a single sweet 16 team? Fuck if I know, guy. I don't, I don't watch college basketball. Neither do I. Neither do I. None of us did. That's not an excuse. And fucking asked his fucking ESPN colleague that is a professional in sports gambling. I did not. I did not. Who's going to fucking win what fucking job? It is so ridiculous. Jason fucking cheated so bad, and you guys are just going to. Here we go. Now, here's the real accusation. Let's get into this. First of all, I did not ask an ESPN colleague. I asked my best friend, Corey Sims, who used to be an equipment manager for the Cincinnati Bearcats, who is now my financial advisor, and he gave me this. It's a lowdown. That's the money. We went astray with you, Sid. You're right. You're right. You gave it to you. You had somebody else fill your bracket, which is my entire point. I wanted to win. I would have had somebody else. We filled it out together. I would have had Jay Billis. I would have fucking called Jay fucking Billis and told Jay, hey, what's your bracket? Let me copy every fucking answer you had. You cheated, Jason. A little name drop there. A little name drop from Travis. Yeah, I know Jay Billis. It's called teamwork. It's called teamwork, guys. That's called collusion. I don't know what you're talking about. That is called collusion. It's not collusion. I'm giving Corey credit. I'm not telling you that I picked the names. I'm saying I went to my buddy who's an expert because I don't know shit about fucking basketball. And I asked the guy that I used to go. That's the fun of it, Jason. I do. You and him is due. First place in both men's and women's. Ball no one right here. No, you did not. No, you did not. You didn't even pick Texas. Stop it. I can't believe you guys don't want to go hang out in a Waffle House. We don't have Waffle Houses in California. You got to find something else. Yeah. I mean, if it's a Waffle House, at least it's like, you know, waffle on a shell. It might be a fight. So that's a positive. If you get in a fight at the Waffle House, you can leave immediately. Let's do it. Wait, hold on. Hold on. If I get a fight at the Waffle House, are you guys, is the company covering my legal fees? I will. No, I'm sorry. What was that? No, we do have no lawyers or HR on this stuff. Next week, we're also going to announce the winners of our Reese's and New Heights Bracket Challenge. So tune into that. And the last thing, there was another huge basketball story this week, and we had to get this guy on. We had to talk about it. That's right. Let's go ahead and toss it to the old University of Cincinnati ball coach. What's up, boys? Welcome back, coach. How we feeling? Oh, man. It's Austin. It's never ending. Like a never ending cycle. You wake up, you go to sleep for four hours and just deal with chaos from start to finish. But it's good to be back, man. Oh, man. That was my favorite question, because everybody loves to talk about the old chili down there. And Cincinnati. And I'm very curious. What was your first culinary stop? What was their first go-to? I got to get some food. I've missed it so much since I've left. Well, it hasn't been Skyline yet, honestly. It's been the football cafeteria, man. It's the closest thing. There you go, man. Tell you what, you guys built a heck of a facility, guys. Wow. That thing is a beast. I'm assuming it's been pretty crazy for you, because you've been kind of separated from the university. It's been longer than we have. How crazy is it seeing how much the campus has grown since you're being back? Yeah, man. I told Huggs. I told all those former players that were there. I can't even recognize it, honestly. When I was here, man, this was kind of a school in the inner city, like a commuter-type school, to be honest with you. And it's just changed so much, man. It's a phenomenal institution. We have a ton to sell, man. I think this thing's going to be great. Yeah, it's remarkable. Every time I go back. Like, you know, obviously the facilities for the football team, basketball team are all pretty brand new. But it's not even just that. Like, around campus, the whole area has been built up so much. There's so many restaurants and bars and things that weren't there when we were there. UC used to stand for under construction. That was the whole joke when I was there. We're just constantly trying to build it up. No doubt. But it's remarkable what it's turned into. What was your favorite spots? I know you guys had some spots when you were down here. Oh, Skyline was one. One of them, especially at 2 in the morning at Skyline over on Ludlow. No, first of all, Jason's speaking for himself right here. Jason's speaking for himself there. Skyline would be the last place I'd go. Shout out to Skyline, though, and Gold Star. Much love to you guys. I know you guys have built a hell of an establishment. But I'm an Adriatico's pizza guy. Yes, yes, yes. I want to go there. I haven't been there yet, Trev. I got to hit it. Adriatico's is fantastic. And then I got a shot out of spot. Martino's over on Shortvine. Good people that run it. And they had these Pittsburgh-style wings and this Pittsburgh steak salad that we used to get there. And we just got to know the people that own that place. And it's an awesome spot. So you get a chance. Martino's is great over there on Shortvine. I'm going to hit it. Yep, I'll hit it next week. And then, of course, Montgomery Inn. Come on now. Get some of them barbecue ribs. That's where Hugs' radio show used to be. So I'm looking forward to if our radio show will be out there. Yeah. I didn't know this. You actually were a student at Cincinnati as well. So you studied. You started at Cleveland State as a player. Yep. And then you transferred to UC, finished your degree, and went into coaching right away. What does Cincinnati mean to you? How do you feel being back? To be honest with you, it's kind of crazy. It's surreal, right? You go through life. You know, there's certain things that happen in your life that you're like a wow moment, probably for you guys, whether it was your first start, first Super Bowl, whatever it was. There's just certain things that happen. And this is kind of one of those. It's been a crazy journey. I took an unconventional path. Took a D2 job from West Virginia. You know, after I didn't get Travis, you know, I had to go different. route he turned us down man he turned us down i'll tell you who turned you down ed kelsey turned you down that's the real story of it what we can get into that yeah we got to get into some of that if we got time are you kidding me we would love to you know uh just been a wild journey man i've coached at every level uh obviously utah state's one of the best schools in the country uh best student student section i've ever seen we got to get that back here at uc uh but this is a place where you can win a national championship and i think it's the best job uh in the state of ohio for basketball i really do i've always thought that our alumni here is real uh we got a real fan base and uh this campus we can sell so i'm excited that's awesome to hear man everybody i think was rooting for utah state and the attorney just because we were like hey we're all hoping that coach calhoun comes back home and you know it was it was fun watching you guys this season and in the tourney yeah it was so cool to see what you guys built over there utah too man you could tell you could tell so dating back to old 2007 uh back when uh you and hugs actually in the entire like like staff went uh to west virginia i believe kansas state maybe before that yeah yeah going into west virginia i was i had already kind of committed and i i was i was looking around for at some basketball schools and all the barry egan coach ohio ohio basketball coach uh coached me my my junior senior years and and egan had a really good connection with you guys down in cincinnati so i go down to west virginia you're my point of contact you guys treat me like fam like i have never been treated before i was jason's little brother in cincinnati didn't even give me this much attention trav i'll be honest man you could hoop man that's what people you know obviously you're gonna go down as as the greatest tight end in my in my book but uh you i mean you know all those heights guys you were a beast i appreciate that i was i was a hooper at heart for sure you went to villa angela st joe you went to joe's right yeah joe's guy man yeah i wish you would have told my dad that so i came back from uh the west virginia trip and i told my dad man like dad i think i want to really like give myself a chance at playing division one college basketball and play for you know coach huggins he looked at me and said you are a man of your word you want to be like these kids that are that commit to us that commit to a university and then decommit and then now and now the integrity of your word doesn't mean anything you have to be a man of your word i look around at everybody nowadays in college i'm just like what was i doing yeah well nowadays you guys would have made a lot of money i could tell you that a lot of money no man but you could tell the way you guys ran in uh or the way you guys ran that uh the ship in west virginia and just the camaraderie that you saw on the floor and how and how everybody evolved in the game um you could tell that's something you kind of took from the the hugs uh regime correct yeah i mean honestly guys hugs is one of the greatest coaches of all time but what people don't talk about is he's got three former coaches assistants that are now in the final four brad underwood at illinois obviously frank and and mick cronin and coach cronin's been unbelievable to me uh throughout my coaching career so when this opportunity came he was one of the guys i called uh but yeah i mean i took taking some stuff from everybody joe mazula is one of my best friends i was the best man in his wedding coached him at west virginia so he's going to be involved in the program nice you know we want to get you guys back we're talking about doing a fantasy camp uh we used to run one at west virginia so we might have you guys get back uh as well if we can get your schedules cleared as i know you guys are you know doing a lot you know we would love to that would be a blast travis knows this but i've been trying to dunk for the first time in my life i think i'm gonna get there i think it's gonna be good man 38 years old i'm dunking baby where's this gonna happen my wife my wife loves your wife jason she thinks she's awesome so you you guys have your personalities and your brand man you guys are connecting so many people uh and you guys don't know this but i was very close with donald delizio trav so we would come how about that yeah we we became diehard chiefs fans man we flew out every year with a group uh of youngstown guys and uh you know uh the phantom fireworks guys and all those guys yeah that's our crew those youngstown guys they they stay together wait so are you from youngstown or east east liverpool basically is young i mean i was born in east liverpool but i grew up in cleveland man i'm i'm a cleveland guy uh but yeah i spent seven years at youngstown uh jim trestle was a huge mentor of mine uh and you know so i've had a lot of good guys help along the way there's some good people in that uh that youngstown era man or that area and they they really do lend a helping hand and tresses i mean i could throw out countless names that said the exact same thing about trestle being able to be such a uh a helping hand and in their journey man so that's awesome big guy and it's it's cool to hear that missoula is even coming back to or coming around uh you see that's pretty cool stuff right there who do you guys like who's your nba teams man you watch any of it or i live in philadelphia i'm connected to the philly teams yeah you gotta watch what you say jason well yeah i like the 60s but yeah me too i mean i love the calf sam merrill utah state guys so we've become close i'm a mark price guy the price is always right um we can go down we can go down the list bobby sir was one of my childhood favorites yeah me too oh my god i had the jersey oh the three yeah the three yeah the throwback yeah i'm a big anderson varajow guy i like i like hustle defense man i want i want those hustle plays coach you gotta have them hey you gotta say this too while we're on cleveland guys uh there was a quote of referencing you to another cleveland guy uh maverick carter i've known jared since we were 11 years old and the only person that i've met that loves the game is as committed to the game as lebron and it's a tie that's an incredible quote because i think lebron is renowned for his love of basketball uh but i do gotta know are do you love the game enough to headbutt an official if you potentially aren't maybe a few years back yeah that was uh hey danny danny's on a whole nother level but hey he's got two natties so he can get away with that maverick and i grew up together uh you know we're both uh a you guys so we would spend the weekend at each other's house uh you know i i eat sleep drink basketball i don't golf um you know i'm constantly trying to evolve learn i think one of the things we'll be able to track to cincinnati is our style man we really teach guys to play golf and to play basketball and to play basketball and to play golf and to play green to find create keep advantages we teach spacing uh you know it's all about reads right like you got to be able to read the game and you guys are elite guys that have read the game for a long time and that's what we do we try to train their eyes man it's it's a whole progression right from the off season to the preseason and a lot of this i got from joe i'll be honest man when i went up to boston five six years ago it changed my trajectory as a coach and kids don't want to play in our system because we score the ball and at the end of the day we're going to man it's entertainment people want to pay money to see touchdowns and they want to see the ball go through the basket so we're going to sell it man you're getting me fired up right now coach i love talking about this stuff too because football is i think i got like one semester left eligibility coach hey we'll get you a good nil deal man yeah yeah i'm sure yeah you gotta ask your wife good six man off the bench yeah sweetie i'm going back to school you're bringing up something though that i've thought i've always been fascinated i've never understood because i never played organized basketball i played pickup basketball and something i've always found fascinating is like it's a free-flowing game football is much more rigid in your rules and assignments each play you have a very specific responsibility and one of the things that i think has allowed travis the ability to excel in football is because he played basketball because he has the ability to understand what you're talking about with spacing and like to go off schedule and do something because you just know that it's a move to make how much has basketball continued to evolve in that regard like you think about like the triangle offense and how innovative that was and i don't i don't even know what i'm asking you because i don't know a fucking thing about basketball i know where you're going with it i mean at the end of the day you have to evolve you have to change with the times right and i think there's not a better guy that's done it than than joe mizzoula i mean look what he's done since he's gotten to boston you know but it's beyond that it's relationships uh you gotta have chemistry right what what travis has done and you know my family teases me you know i changed from the browns there's only so much i could take from the browns so i got on the chief's wagon with the youngstown crew and rocky and we we made a lot of trips out there trav don't even realize i've been in arrowhead a lot that's awesome man it's a good place to watch a game oh it's unbelievable i mean if people haven't seen a game in there it's it forget the game the the pre-game tailgates are like a college atmosphere it's crazy i had no idea you were you were already on the uh the chief's wagon man that's awesome i'm gonna send you a picture of me at the game with my boys i'll send it to you you'll love it you gotta come back out for another one man if you get a chance coach i saw you on uh dan horde earlier this week talking about the crosstown shootout and the how important is it to dominate ohio i that was a big thing i took away from it yeah i mean at the end of the day man uh you know rivalries are everything right we all got them uh we all have a lot of have that team, but this one is really special. special uh you know i think it's one of the most unique you know you got duke carolina you got cincinnati xavier right there's two monster basketball programs within four or five miles so yeah right those are games you got to win right you got to defend home turf you got to rep your city uh we're going to take a lot of pride in that you know and president trestle talked about ohio state michigan with me for years it's got to be you know talked about it's got to be trained in our guys minds that we got to win this game you know and it starts uh in the recruiting process it doesn't matter where you are if you're if you have the chance to watch uc basketball you're always going to check that crosstown shootout uh you know game and i mean it's just uh it's something that i i already know you're going to take to heart man but i got to get back to some of the some of the high school days and it's a little bit more of this northeast ohio uh love man okay um one thing i have to ask you about is the final game of your high school game is the final game of your high school game is the final game of your high school career was against one of the greatest basketball players of all time yeah i had the pleasure of seeing lebron in high school and he looked like a man amongst boys how did it feel playing against him in high school well i'll be honest that's one that haunts you right like you got games that haunt you that one still haunts me because yeah we would have been state champs i'll never forget my high school coach uh ted kwasniak uh just a tremendous person he went and saw lebron he came back he saw he saw clark kellogg back in the day at joe's this is the greatest high school player i've ever seen and i'm like i'm a senior i'm like you know who who's this freshman he's talking about so boom fast forward two months later and this dude is just killing um it was crazy i mean we were up the whole game back and forth maverick was on that team so we talk about it a lot but you know what made lebron so good is guys like you mahomes i mean you look at every sport they just don't know how to play they just don't know how to play they just don't know the game they see the plays before he had a cross-court pass i still think about to this day in transition as a freshman that was one of the things obviously his athleticism i didn't get to see him till he was a senior so his athleticism was like he was in the nba already but uh his ability to pass the ball anywhere on the dime at any moment was so unique and it's he made it look so effortless i mean at that point he was like six six and he grew like from freshman to sophomore he got like three more inches you know crazy absolutely crazy i got one last thing if you see if you have if you happen to see a super bowl ring lying around some chili in fifth third arena you make sure to let me know because i did you lose it in cincinnati was it a good night it was a great night it was a great night it was an unbelievable night yeah well we got to get you guys back absolutely love to come back definitely coming back for a game to see you uh rock it out and uh hopefully um hopefully we can even get back for a little crosstown shootout that'd be great yeah i'm glad reggie connected us man reggie king great guy man shout out to reggie great man coach we appreciate you big guy we're we're rooting for you and uh if you ever need a thing man please just reach out thanks guys appreciate this thank 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