- Did you actually watch Still and Show? - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. - Did it, did it watch? It still do watch. (laughing) - Yeah. - I'm not getting, I wish I could say that, like, I'm not a super fan, but I would be, like, completely like, so I go through phases. - Take that, Hannah Montana. (laughing) (upbeat music) - Brennan, what do you have on your head? - I have a bow because my favorite person's coming to me. - Who's your favorite person? - JoJo Siwa, she's wild, she's crazy, she's talented, let's go. JoJo! (laughing) (upbeat music) - Everyone, welcome our guest, JoJo Siwa, to the team. (cheering) - Cheers. - Cheers. - Cheers. - Cheers. - Cheers. - Cheers. - Cheers, everybody. - Wait, should we say JoJo or JoL? - That's true. - You can say what I mean, what? (laughing) I kinda, I'll tell you this back story. I actually, oh God, this people are really gonna love me. We're talking about this or hate me for it. But I didn't actually mean to change my name. And now, a lot of people, people now call me by both and I'll respond to either doesn't matter, but JoL is my real legal name. I've always gone by JoJo ever since I was a kid. My mom wanted to name me JoJo, and then she made it make sense by naming me JoL Joni. Anyways, only people really close to me have called me JoL, and then all of a sudden, my TikTok long story short was in jeopardy of getting deleted because it didn't match my legal name. And so I had to switch my TikTok on the back end. I thought to Joelle. Well, turns out it changed it on the front end as well. And it was like Joelle Siwa. I happened to do it on December 31st. No. People happen to be like new, new, new. But people really liked it. And they were like, this makes sense. And she's an adult now. And so I went with it. But now it's confusing. I meet people and they're like, what do you want to be caught? I'm like, it's really-- Joelle is the technical. But JoJo is so much-- it's so much more correct. We have a buddy named Willie. And we call him-- I apologize, my name is Willie. So and we have discussed this with him many times when we go, at what point do you become William? Well, he's a real person job. He's not like an entertainer business. He's like, you can't call us so much. He's like, we're going to do an office, Billy. So I'm Willie. After some age, you're not Willie anymore. But then you hit another certain age and you're Willie again. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You said I'm the poor. You said you're fetching Willie. Grandpa Willie. Grandpa Willie. Grandpa Willie. Grandpa JoJo. Yeah. He said, I'm going to be. Grandpa Willie. So my middle name is after my grandma. And it's Joni. That feels more grandma. So I don't know. Like my kids will say, my mom's name is JoJo one day. Like, I don't know. I literally don't care. What would they call you mom instead of JoJo? I mean, mom. Coming from a guy who calls his parents by their name. No, my never's name. Mirage me out. Oh, Chris is coming. I'm like, you're dad. But a lot of people are dads. How do you got to be specific? No. No. You've done it? If you say, my dad is coming up. But he's trying to assume it was you. I'm dad. I would hope. You know what's funny for me is that. So in my own limit, I do terrible research. I am the worst researcher for our guests possible. And this is where I started and stopped. I went. No, no. I literally, you'll see how dumb this is. I typed on Google. I was like, JoJo, see what? Type it in. And it said, you were 23 years old. Yeah. And I went, no. And then I stopped. OK. And I'll tell you why. Did you do it? I'm a super fan. So I know everything. No. But because then I went, I went, there's no way you're 23. Because when I basically started sweet life, I feel like I was already hearing your name. And so for some reason, I've always, like, quantified you as my age. And I know that's weird. But I think because we had like a same, we were around at the same time. I was like, well, we're comparable ages. Which is just sweet. Yeah. Yeah. I know. I know. Do you actually watch Dylan's show? Yeah. No, no, no. And it didn't watch. It still do watch. Yeah. I'm not getting, I wish I could say that, like, I'm not a super fan, but I would be like completely like. So I go through phases. No. Take that hand, I'm on to hand. No. Sorry. You got to ruin the podcast. His ego's growing. No. Literally. And if you want your flowers for a second, your sweet life flowers, I still watch it to the day. I go through two phases. I go through sweet life phases and wizard's phases and they go back and forth. Okay, that's fine. And I genuinely start at, so with sweet life, though, I do both. I do the regular and then I do on deck as well. And I started episode one, season one. And I play it on my TV until it runs out. And then I switch to on deck and I start at season one episode one, play it on my TV until it runs out. And then I stop and then I do wizards, season one episode one, all the hotel runs out and then I go back to sweet life. So I'm not kidding. I've watched some series, it's probably 12 times through. I watched every episode. You probably know more about it than I remember of the show. So, I have a story for you and I'm hoping to God you remember this because if you don't it's going to be really embarrassing. I don't remember breakfast. So this is going to be tough. Did you ever watch you would remember this? Yes, I was a super fan. I went to your convention. First lie. First lie. My sisters were big fans. Okay. Yeah, I like tough stuff. So I had a second lie. Second lie. You're going to be so jealous. I'm already jealous right now because they gave us Raisin Cain's Cups but they didn't give us the fingers. Dude, you're going to be more jealous than that when you hear it. Not only did I eat, okay, the last event that Cain's took me to, sometimes they do sometimes they don't, depending on the venue, which is always a flagrant foul in my opinion if they don't. Because the venue wants, they're only their food there. But the best events that the Cain's group has brought me to are the ones where they're allowed to serve Cain's in the boxes that they reserve, okay? Wait, wait, wait. So you got this fancy event and they serve Raisin Cain's chicken fingers? Yes. And so not only that, they got the box combo, they got the lemonade, they got the sauce, the Texas toast, they got everything. But who walks in, okay? Who? Gronk and Brady. Now, I like to think that you and I have that same dynamic, right? You're more like Edelman. It's like me, me and Wally. You're my Gronk. I'm Brady, for sure. You're my Gronk. Brady's from the Bay Area. I love him. And I have this helmet on. You can't be more like someone just because you love him. I loved, I was booked. Brady 12. Oh, dude, I loved him. Yeah, but see, I think you'd be talking about me the same way. I'd like to hang out with Gronk probably a little more. He's a little bit fun. I'd like to hang out with Brady more, so that's to see that's how we know what I'm related. No, obviously we want to hang out Brady more. No, they're both. And I would choose Brady. By the way, they just both lived up. I was like, gosh, you guys are so-- Do these big, obviously, in real life? Do you appreciate it? Of course you do. I know. And funny enough, Barbara knew Camille, Gronk's wife, of course, and from all the modeling stuff in the past. And they're just so cool to talk to. I was like, and that's just the best, right? Because Raisin Keynes has, I think, facilitated a group that I genuinely like. Hanging out with. But congratulations to Raisin Keynes for 30 strong years of the best chicken fingers in the game. In the world. They're in a multinational now. Oh, really? Really? They're in Abu Dhabi. So, congrats on that. Right. And thanks to the Graves, and I thank you, Keynes. And please invite me to more events. [LAUGHS] So, I'm in the middle of this TV show. I'm pitching. I'm executive producing a scripted TV show. It's an incredible show. And this week, we've been pitching it to network. So we've been in development with it. It's going to be a massive show. And I can't even-- now that I'm in the midst of it, I can't actually believe that I'm a part of it. And so, anyways, we have me. We have the studio heads. And then we have the writers. And I've known these people now for about six months. We've been working together, talking to them once a week. We've been in person every day this week doing. Today, we just did Amazon yesterday, who-- like, we've been all over. One's, too. Yeah, we've done peacock Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, Apple. We've been all over, and we have a few more. Cool. So it's been unreal, gotten a great response. However, two days ago, we were sitting in the Netflix office, and we were just chatting, and they said, what are you doing in a few-- what are you up to this week? And I said, well, obviously, these meetings. I said, and then I'm doing a podcast. I said, I'm really stoked. I said, it's one of the dudes from Zach and Cody. I was like, I was stoked about it. And the studio head, he goes, oh, my son was on that show. And I was like, shut up, who was your son? And he goes, oh, you'll never know him. He goes, he just-- he gets start on one episode. I go, you got one shot. If it's Yo Han Yo, I'm about to lose my mind. His kid's Yo Han Yo. You don't remember Yo Han Yo? I don't even know who Yo Han Yo-- Do you remember on-deck professional Yo Yo or kids? Yes! Yes, that's his kid, Yo Han Yo. Wait, his name's Yo Han Yo. Yo, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. I think his real name was Daniel, I want to say. OK, by the way, that's basically like JoJo and JoL. Yeah, Daniel and JoJo. Honestly, no. His kid, Yo Han Yo, and he-- He was really cool. I remember he brought Cole and I-- because he's like, there's a thing called a speed Yo Yo. And I didn't know. It's like different styles of Yo Yo. It zooms. The thing has like ball bearings in it. And it goes the other way as well. Oh, wow. Everything. And he gave us both one of these Yo Yo's. And Cole and I were like, whoa, we've ever been like gifted by a professional athlete. Anything. He's like a 13 year old professional, yo.
- You don't work in the mind. - So sick, so sick. - So yeah, that's his kid, and then obviously, that tells you how big of a fan that I am. - Did you do that fan? Were you like a lover? - Oh yeah, and I was like, you didn't understand. I called my mom, and I was like, mom, do you remember when I was a kid, I went through a yo-yo phase. Do you remember why? And she was like, yeah, 'cause of yo-han, yo-han, sweet life. - Oh, yo-han, so awesome, by the way. - The fact that someone watched that episode and went through a thought process that said, I got a yo-yo is the sickest thing I've ever heard. And the most embarrassing thing about it is that happened when I was probably seven. And then, within the last year and six months, 'cause I was dating Chris, I know that. I ordered yo-yo's again, because I watched the episode again. And I was so into it once again in the last year, that Chris, my boyfriend was like, "Bite, you're gonna have to get to yo-yo's again." - He wanted one. - So, do you rip it in yo-yo? - I've learned a few tricks. I can do the baby in a cradle, walk the dog, all around the world. No, it was a proper phase, because of the show. - We should have brought 'em on. That would have been awesome. - Yeah, you should have yo-han, yo. Another one last sweet life nerd album. (all laughing) So, I genuinely would go, - My bow's gonna pop off. - I genuinely could keep going. But the crossover, Wizard's on deck with Hannah Montana. - Hell yeah, dude. - We did the Jojo cruise, I did a cruise. - Yes, I wanted to ask you about that. - And you don't need to ask me about it. You can watch the episode. You can watch the Hannah Montana Sweet Life on deck. - I did it cool. - I did it cool. - That's so funny. - Awesome, oh, I made all my dancers watch it. And they were like, "Oh, yeah, this is amazing." - It's just us. - I want to tell you so, I grew up for most of my teens, I was in Woodland Hills, right? - Oh, yes, everything. - So, often times, it was divorced between me and my brothers and brothers in Prashans this, 'cause I saw you driving around in the fuck, completely wrapped car of your face. And my brother was like, "That's crazy." And always, I would go, "No, that's the sickest fuck." In the world, you don't understand how sick that is. And I would, we would argue about it intensely for hours after, and every time we saw your car drive through that area. - God, that makes me happy. - Dude, would you see it frequently? - I think in total, cool, and I saw you driving that car probably five, six times. - Wow. - Five, six times. - It's only I would have known. - I would have seen, you would have seen me crash that car if I was seeing you guys see me in that car. - Hour long debates. - Hour long, intense debates about the car, because-- - Second go to? - Yes, because, cool, I did that this weird, West Coast Customs collab with our own cars. Okay, so we were like, we had, they were-- - West Coast at the first two. - Of yours? - We have many other things. - Wait a second. - How many of these? - As soon as they, which ones did you see? So we, I started with the Beamer, and that was the original icon, Justin Bieber said to burn it. Like that was the whole thing. - The Bieber said to burn the car? - Yes. - Yeah, yeah, we don't know, he just come, and these little sisters were Jojo fans too at the time. So like nothing made sense, but-- - Justin Bieber. - He was really, he's been really nice since then. He's been really nice since then. But he, yeah, so he told me to burn the car. And then I was super into YouTube at the time, and so I made a joke of it. I got a car put a cut out of and put him in the car, like we had fun with it. And then, yeah, so that was that car. And then I got a Tesla that didn't have my face on it. It was just wrapped. - Bummer. - It was sick, I know, lame. It was custom, it was wrapped, I'm sorry, it was painted like rainbow race cars, really. - Yeah, kind of sick, yeah. - So then I got that, and then I decided that one of my face on that. So I don't know if you know David Dobrik. - Yeah. - One of them. - He did something where he pranked his friend and put cutouts of his face all over the car. - Yeah. - And so I did that design, but with my face on the Tesla. So then there's that one. And then I, the Bieber, we never changed the wrap one. That always stayed. The Tesla then stayed with the face. Then I got a Lamborghini. - Oh. - The Lamborghini I did two different designs on. (laughing) I did one where it had like just big versions of my faces and my logo. - Obviously. - It was sick as hell. - Bro, I didn't die. - By the Lambo. - The Lambo wrap is insane. - Though most iconic Lambo wrap, and it didn't get the time it deserved, 'cause it was too dark, it just didn't read well. But I did karma, and karma had a really iconic look with the karma eyes. - Yeah, eyes, yeah. - So I actually had the Lamborghini wrapped with that for a while. - Oh, that's sick. - But it was so, the colors on it were black tan because of my skin and like tones of red. So I didn't read well, but. - So do you still have all of the progression up or no? - You know the saddest thing I've none of them. - What? - So the good news. - How crazy is the resale value on a free JoJo wrap car? - For a long time. - I know, right? So the Bieber, I was an idiot, and just sold, got rid of. And it breaks my heart because that was the most, iconic piece from my childhood. - I sold my Subaru Impresa, which we talked about, but I sold my Subaru Impresa that had like the matte black finish and the orange rims from West Coast Customs, and I still regret it. - Still regret it? There's just something so iconic about it. - It's so personal too, yeah. Was it your first driving car? - That was my first driving car. - Yeah, so there's also that attachment too, which is just like you don't lose it. - Like I have everything, I've ever caused it, I've ever worn every tour prop, I have everything. - You gotta open a museum. - And I got rid of the car. - Without the car. - I gotta get rid of the car. - What are you driving now without your face on the car? - Driving now without my face on my car. I'm driving my dad's Genesis right now. - No, dude. - But I have a beautiful baby blue Cadillac. I love her. - Okay, three paint your face on there or something. - Yeah, I need to wrap it, it's something. - We should start a business. - Dude, don't look down here. What do you got? This is actually a big reveal, so this is huge. The audience is gonna love this. Spend all night on this. - Whoa. - What it says? Where tough guys go to relax. And then on the side it says wild men. - Wild men merch. - And guess what, I made 20,000 of these last night. I got a shipment, a whole ship came in with them. - Like a cargo? - Yeah, in my garage. I have so many sweatshirts now. I don't know what the hell to do with them. - Well, dude, honestly, starting like a business website and platform is not easy. - It sounds impossible, so I'm just gonna burn them. - Don't burn them, you know what we should do instead? - What? - We should probably use Shopify. What the heck is that? Shopify is a tool for businesses that wanna create a website. All your tools are located in one place. They make it easy as both a currently using owner and a returning owner to just get your business off the ground and with one click you're selling things that you need to sell. - Don't you, you have to be some kind of computer guru to make websites. - No, dude, not with Shopify. No, you don't even have to study. - What? - Yeah, they do it all for you. - You can make any type of website? - You can sell anything. - You can sell anything you want and-- - Oh, we can use this to sell my sweatshirts. - Yeah. - I see you don't have to burn them. - Oh, yeah. - Think about that, dude. I mean, the carbon emissions that we save from our environment by not burning those sweatshirts, Shopify is gonna love us too and they invite you for things. - So I can put this up on the store. How many businesses you Shopify? Like four? - Probably four, but Jillian. - Really millions and millions of stores trust Shopify? Millions of them, dude. If you're ready to hear the (bell dings) of your first sale today, head over to Shopify.com Wildman to start your free trial today. - That's right. Start your free trial at Shopify.com/Wildman. - That's Shopify.com/Wildman. - It's genius. - It's genius. - Where are you from? Why do you have kind of a Southern accent? - So I'm from, it's funny that you ask about my accent. So I'm from Nebraska, originally. But I have a twang of an English accent. And it's because of my boyfriend and his family and his friends always talk too often, right? And so, he doesn't hear it, his family doesn't hear it, but Americans are like, where's your accent? And I'm like, it's Nebraska and they're like, that's not it. - How long have you been dating them? - We've been together. This month will be a year and five months. - Oh nice. Okay, so you picked it up over a year and five months. That makes sense, right? - Yeah, and just spending time over there. Barbara's accent is neither Hungarian 'cause she's from Hungary, but it's neither Hungarian. - He also got a beauty, she's gorgeous. - She does not deserve her. - Look at this, honestly. - You see this? - I'm not gonna lie, like when the whole house thing went down. Obviously, you guys were everywhere. And so, both your faces were right in front of my face. And I was like, damn, she's gorgeous. - She's a beautiful girl. - What was funny is that like, I was nervous about that news getting out, about the home invasion because of the fact that I defended our home with a gun. - Oh, it's ballroom, you know what I'm saying? - Exactly. - Absolutely. - And here's what I'm saying. - Pew, get away from my gorgeous wife. - And I think exactly what you're talking about is that the, and I watched this happen, the world set aside the gun debate because they went like, well, it's Barbara. - Yeah. - And it was a soft spot for bad stuff. - Yeah, they're like, we get it this time. And I was like, okay, so I felt good about that. - Yeah, no, it was, it's, it's self-defense. Like, it came across looking so tough. I was so mad when I got the call. I go, no, you didn't. Damn it, I wish it was me. I was like, man, just dance. Everyone's texting me, yo, I heard your boy just defended his home. That's sick. I'm like, what are you doing, though? That's probably actually not what happened. - No, you know what I'm saying? - Just doing that.
- Oh my God, oh my God. - Oh dear. - He's actually the name of his house. - You know what I've been meeting to send you guys, which is the actual footage of me coming through the front door and chasing him down, because I have the footage of him coming to the door, and he literally says on the camera, you can hear it really quietly, he goes, "Oh shit." - And then turn it out. - It's AI. - It's AI. - He's AI, dude. - Such a hater. - Can I ask you, were you as a boy? Okay, 'cause-- - Sickest thing ever. - That's what I would think, I would think that, 'cause I have a very manly side to me, like I, not that dating women makes you manly, but I dated women for six years. So I have a very-- - Well they're just empirically the hotter it to. - Like I just have like a like protective side. - Yeah, yeah. - Like that, that like the man typically has. - You said you're from Nebraska, that like being Nebraska, that might be Nebraska. - But I just feel like, so I did a show of special forces. - Yeah. - And-- - Oh yeah. - So we-- - It's not the cruise. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. really did your research and we had to fight on it and we had a box and it was box to the death right it was basically box until somebody's not standing explaining this like you actually killed so the other I thought was an Olympic champion um but she was a speed skater um which is very nice that she wasn't an Olympic champion boxer that was the second time so that's why I was not gonna spoil but it's okay because now we're here and we're talking about it. Did you win the first bout so I won I did win with the speed skater so the speed skater we were kind of tapping each other go on or go up extra extra so then she actually got she was winning and she got me good and then I flung up and I just saw red and I I just I I won and so after they pulled me in for for a talking what's called the mirror room and they said you know the fighting that probably really shook you up or there and I said hell no I didn't I think something's changed yeah no more and I was like I've never I'm not aggressive I'm not physical I said but I've always wondered if I could be and I've always said if somebody hurt my family somebody hurt my dog like how would I react and I got to do that and now you know and now I know and it felt so good I have like six machetes next to my bed I don't have to gun yet but I have like you have jambos nice I have a fighting Tomahawk and I'm like so I could really go to town you got some weapons but they're all like I bought the Tomahawk on Teemo so I'm not sure if it works you know French he's pushed the plate around with her nose like when grandpa doesn't like something he just goes like this and his head gets funky and he goes like this a bunch and then you just have to keep like then you have to hand feed and then sometimes you won't eat for two hours I feed piggy by a spoon like exactly there's just like babies but this I can finally just portable hand it to him and like a real dog he just eats it I do it honestly I am yearning for that experience piggy has now gotten like a syndrome that involves me hand feeding her with everything and it's cute as hell yeah we'll say it's cute as hell but I mean Sundays for dogs is the only kind of break it dude bouncing around trying to get so maybe it's changed human grade ingredients you know that means good stuff you need to get a little hungry a little snack I'm not saying do it because they'll probably tell me not to but sometimes I go home one bag for grandpa one bag for me yeah and you just bond with your dog by the way it's like eating the bag of chips it's all in the bag everything that you need to know is on the back of the bag and you can just reach your little paw and grab a scoop and yum yum yum it's probably healthier than what we eat for sure for sure for sure grandpa I also don't want to get gross with this but Sundays for dogs his bowel movements are much better really yes yes you pick about because you know he's no longer just spackling just no and I used to have to give him like a sweet potato and pumpkin puree and mix that in with ground beef yeah this they just eat this it's over it's it's like 80% of my brain is now free to think of things no artificial bullshit no preservatives no it's I mean it's created by a vet I love that so I mean with historically you love that so I mean honestly to me this is just a home run and plus starting a new food is a big deal Sundays for dogs is offering 30% off so give your dog the chance to try Sundays and watch them fall in love go to sundaysfordogs.com/wildman or use our code wildman for 30% off now let's say that for the dogs whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa Saturdays are for the boys wildman Sundays are for the dogs so okay besides us arguing my brother and I arguing about your wrapped car for hours I mean the what I said in the beginning is also holds very true which is that we have been seeing you on the scene forever we share the child start him sound a little bit so Brennan was going to say start at the beginning but oh no but I was actually got to say which is funny now I was thinking about it I've actually watched more JoJo than Dylan really yeah because my mom was a ballet dancer okay man so start a podcast no no but I have three sisters and so dance moms was on constantly so I always enjoy you can tell I mean I was gonna sit before but even when you first come in you're just kid right yeah you're a star and you can see and I think Dylan kind of had your your little sly comments and things you could tell on the DC channel you were star too oh yeah I think anyone he's the real rubric for who's a star yeah but even not a star yeah y'all were doing stuff I don't forgive me I don't know what it was but I remember seeing stuff of you guys when you're a little little you were somebody's no I do yeah yeah and something on friends yeah yeah yeah but like there is just a certain spark with a kid and I've actually was just talking to one of my friends she's a mom and she has six kids now but her two oldest they're 12 now and I've worked with them since they were six months old filming YouTube videos and I used to babysit them their twins and they're adorable babysit for YouTube videos not actually babysit but I would do these but they were so fun to film with because they just had it their instinct was correct they just had it and then I would film with other kids I was only 15 at the time like I was little too but it's there is just a certain spark with child stars and the mom her name is now since she was actually she's like I just don't know like what am I doing I'm putting my kids out there and I was like dude like your kids have it I do think that you're right though I mean I'll say twins uh twins felt like a bit of an exception though in a lot of times because when you're talking to twins they've developed an internal language with each other from a very young age I remember my dad my mom telling me stories of Cole and I having full conversations with each other before English like monkey noises like we would just be like and this is something that a lot of twin parents experience where you're you're just a yapper from birth yeah you're a yapper from birth you're in the same oh yeah you've known each other a long time yeah a long time a long time but in your case I mean do you have siblings but none of them really wanted to try the industry or have many of when they also dancers no so I only have one brother he's older than me uh three years older than me and he for a time we we tried to get him into YouTube this was when I was 15 and he was so it was when he was seven eight 18 19 and 20 we tried to get him into YouTube and he just he was never into it and he he never showed interest in it he did it because he wanted to you know try to fulfill what was trying to be asked of him but it just was never for him and so he developed his own really awesome life he's out on Orlando he's an indoor skydiving instructor which is really cool and that was so when we were younger when I was it's so fun when I was I was 13 when we took it up so he would have been 16 and he could drive so we would go in our home tunnel was that city walk and we took it up as a sport we went four or five days a week and we would train all the time because I could film it but it was also fun for me and like indoor skydiving indoor skydiving the one at city walk you just said the big two does it feels like your phone anymore no no no you have the wind holding you up and you learn the first time you go you yeah float in the tunnel and they hold you and it doesn't feel like you're falling when you're really skydiving because the force of the like the air pressure coming back at you you feel like oh because you're just being held up kind so you're brained and then so can you do like somersaults oh yeah so now so then as you learn and we've been doing it now god I've been doing it 10 years and so you yeah you gotta hit the yo-yo in the sky oh both at once I mean I'm dance in there I have a yo-yo oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah you promote my music in there by doing the dances oh but it's great now he instructs at it and so it's it's he has his own little life but no never super supportive super right but never showed interest in it yeah and you knew since you were I read two you were staying in the dance studio with your mom late at night right and you just wouldn't leave yeah no I wouldn't leave I I loved it she would have friends over and they'd wake me up to show well you want to show me your solo and I'd be like yeah yeah ever since I was really little I didn't actually break into set industry until I was nine yeah but like worked towards it from that whole point forward and then your dance moms is from nine on so Dylan was telling us last week he was a he forgets filming a lot of the episodes of the sweet life do you do you have a lot of memories of dance moms are it's hard and you probably feel like this too I have a lot of memories that were filmed because I've just seen it so many right so I go yeah I remember that but no you don't right you've just seen it but I can remember like I can remember very small bit
bits and pieces. My first job actually abby's ultimate dance competition. So that was when I was nine to 11, then dance times was 11 to 13. And so that show feels like I can actually remember a ton. I can remember details, I can remember smells, I can remember stuff like that. - I will say though, the best way, kind of almost to answer that question a little bit to you, B is that when you're working, and I'm sure you felt this too, when you're working at that age, there's no real conscious understanding that you're working, you're being told to do this, and not in like a malevolent way, but in the same way that your parents are like, go to school. So it's a subconscious thing, it is. - You don't know anything, yeah. - You have anything to compare it to. - Right, and people as I was older, even when I was young, I guess they would say, "You feel like you're missing out on something?" And I'd say, "No, no, no, no." Then when I was 17, I got in my first relationship, and it was with a girl, and she lived a very, very normal life. She went to school, she had her school friends, football games, stuff like that, and she lived in Florida. And when I was dating her, that was the first time that I was like, "Oh, that's what people mean." That's the life that I missed out on. And it was, it's a trade like, 'cause I always say like, "Well, I'm, she's missing out on this style of life, right?" It's just the life that you live, and I think everybody just has a different life. But yeah, it's, I actually, so I, a lot of my friends are, I have a lot of men that are my friends, and there's some of my closest friends, but I'll just Tyler, for an example, so Tyler Cameron, he was on the Bachelor. - A Bachelor, yeah, okay, so he was on the Bachelor, Bachelor, and he was on it. I think seven years ago, and he's 32, so 25, essentially my age now, imagine living that full life, and then boom, all the time, you're famous, I know where. I think we're lucky being in a 10 times higher. - Yeah, I think it's 10 times higher. 'Cause you just, in a weird way, I don't know any different, we don't know any different, but in a better way, we don't know any different. It just is what it is. - A hundred percent agree with you. I'll also say, I think you are more prone to missteps when you're an adult, and you're hungry for it, yeah. Then if you're a kid, and you don't hunger for it, really in the way that an adult quantifies the hunger for success, I've seen more people lose themselves to fame, let's say when they're 16, 17, 18 deciding, this is really what I want to do, than I've ever seen a child's family life. - Child's (beep) two-year-old. - Yeah, it's like crabs. - Yeah, crabs? - Yeah, well you put a crab in a water, and start boiling it, as opposed to the crabs, you drop into boiling water, right? - Yeah, yeah. - So you hit the slowly, and so you didn't move, you just got boiled. - Yeah, yeah. - Exactly, yeah. - Exactly, we're boiled crabs. - Yes, we're boiled. - Slow boiled crabs. - Slow boiled crabs. - Slow boiled crab. But I think that's pretty wise to say, 'cause I mean, everybody who said like, do you feel like you missed out? I'm like, did I miss out on high school? - Right. - While I was becoming an actor, I was like, not really, I am sorry, I know that sounds crazy. - No, no, no, you didn't miss out on high school. You went to seven seas high, okay? That is the best part of high school. - I'm very true. - Very true. - So I need you to take this idea somewhere. - Okay. - I need Disney. I need them, and I can help you out. We can pitch it together, but you're the man I need to talk to. - All right, I'm listening. - There needs to be a super yacht, SS Tipton. - You have to do it. - You know what? You wanna hear a funny story? I'll give you some insider baseball here. - They're doing it. - Well, no. (beep) - That's so excited. - You wish. - You wish. There was a point at the show when it was airing that we kind of became like the black sheep. It was like we were the ugly duckling of Disney Channel in a weird way, even though we were responsible for a lot of making Disney Channel the thing. And so they knew I think because we had an inbuilt audience, they could devote less money towards marketing, towards merchandising. So merchandising for Sweet Life is weirdly like never existed. - Never a thing, no. - Never really a thing. And I remember-- - I was like, "You were in peak competitive Disney time." - Oh, yeah. - Oh, yeah. - Yeah. - I was like, - I was like, "E-Listers," right? - It was everything. - Everything. - Everything. - All the collaboration to me. And I remember even thinking this while they were doing like a Disney event at Disneyland was turn the Tower of Terror into the Tipton. - Yeah, yeah, the Tipton. - So I was like, "This would be a crazy, just fun little club." That was off the market. Anything merchandise for Sweet Life was off the market. We did a cruise once. That was just marketing for the Sweet Life, but it wasn't really anything. And it was the Disney cruise. Well, like, guys, these are like obvious collaborations that feel like people get involved. - Now that this generation is old enough to go on a boat. - Exactly. - Bro, and the Tipton. - I think you can go on a boat at any age, Jack. - You can go on a boat at any age, but I'm gonna tip by your own ticket. - The Tipton's not even the cruise ship version. It's not even, it's not massive. All you need is that iconic deck, the iconic little smoothie bar, the hot tub, the staircase. You could build it in a super yacht, do it with a hundred people, do it for a year, make so much money. - I like your pizzazz. Could there be a cross over here? JoJo, and Sweet Life cruise. - I gotta tell ya. - I gotta produce this. - I just need y'all to get it on. - Did you ever do anything with Disney Channel? - So I- - That feels like a massive missed opportunity of not. - Back in the day, I actually started only on Bizarre Mark. - Bizarre Mark. - Which was after my time, I think. - After your time, yeah, that was Olivia Rodrigo's Disney show. So I, at the time, met with both Disney and Nickelodeon. This was well, I was on Dance Fogs, and both companies wanted me. Both companies wanted to do things, and I originally wanted Disney. And something that was hard to realize, but my mom brought up, she said, because I was really obviously bows. And she said, just when you're deciding which one you wanna go with, also take into consideration that Disney already has an iconic bow, they have many mouths. And she said, just, she said it won't matter. She said, but just take it into consideration. Anyways, I love, I loved both teams at the time. It was, she probably was still there when you guys were there, but the TV side of things that Disney was with Judy Taylor still. Wonderful woman, but yeah, I just, I loved the Nickelodeon team, and so I ended up signing to them. But now, I've done little bits here and there now. I was an adult with Disney, I've done a lot with Disney Parks, which is always fun. I kept it going. But yeah, so as a kid, it was always Nickelodeon. - I watched you actually gain a jawline over the last few months because of that. - That's a factor, Meals. Well, sometimes now, usually I'm just sitting at a home all day. Sometimes we have two interviews in a row. It's hours, I get home, I'm exhausted. You know, my fiance's been working all day, so I just go, hey, what do you want, what do I want? She goes, I want this, I want that. Sometimes we don't agree. - What's your favorite one that you've had so far? - Well, when we don't agree, I just go, I like the chicken bean rice tortillas. 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like it doesn't exist or they've had a moment where it's hurt them really bad and they've decided that they won out. Yep. And I'm watching Brennan go through that right now. Oh, my comments. Yeah, they say I talked too much. Yeah. I know. No, you don't. I came in though. I told you, you kind of stole my question because I go, I got to tell Jojo, you're the best of that. You can block out the haters and you, I mean, you're just, you know, you're unequivocally you all the time, I think, and you're confident in that stop. And I was just like, I was doing all my research this week and I was like, God damn, you're so young. Like, it's like, it's hard to do. I'm sure. Yeah, but you're great at it. It's funny. A lot of people say you're confident. You're confident. No, I am not. But you show. I'm an illusionist. Yeah. Yeah. But I, so I actually, there was a point in time where I was going to work with the WWE. And I was really excited about it. I was going to like that. It was three years ago to the day, four years ago to the day. I actually just came up on my memories. And I was going to be properly in the WWE like I was going to go to the training for a year and then I was going to be in it. You already knocked out a skater. Yeah. You didn't have to. You could jack too. Yeah. And so fun. And it was so fitting at the time. And then the deal fell through and it didn't make sense. And so it didn't happen. But one of the things that I really took away from that experience is in my initial meeting with them, they said, some of the most exceptional, successful WWE people are the most hated ones. Yeah. So they said, we don't know whether you're going to become a loved one or a hated one, but it's almost better if you become hated. They said the hated people get more. And so that taught me a lot, but obviously I was older at that point. I was 19 at the time. And I don't know, I think being really young in it and being on also reality is a different beast, right? And so I was just me and so people were hating on me from a very young age. And so I learned how to deal with it. But my thing is like I walk into a room and I don't care how I feel. Yeah. I don't care how I feel. You should. I care how you guys feel, right? I care how anyone watching feels. I care that it's always been like that and it breaks me at times. Like it breaks me at times. I will just be by myself and I'll get in my head. I'll just, it breaks me at times. But for the most part, it overall makes me happy to make others happy. And so for the most part, that keeps me good. Yeah. Also, I've had to constantly remind myself that, and I think a lot of people in our similar position do, you have to constantly remind yourself that the majority of people don't hate you. But what you're seeing is this slice of like thing that is really specific. Like I've, I even do it like I'll screen comments. I have words that I screen on my Instagram and social. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You just like make sure that people just don't say certain things and they just never pops up because that is, out of sight, out of mind, right? Yep. Absolutely. And sometimes it's just a game and then people can jump on the game and it's fun and it's attention. And take away their fun. Yeah. I remember when my brother did the caller daddy podcast. I found what was really funny about that situation because we've had, we've had very different experiences with like feedback online. I think people are more accepting of me in general than they're accepting of my brother in a lot of ways. And I defend my brother vehemently, I love him to death. He has his isms and he's a weird guy, but I still love him to death. However, I think in general, we've had different receptions online and through audience members. And I remember the one thing that I found very funny, it's similarly to how it's a very divorce between people who either really hate you or people who really love you that talk about you, is that jokes are all the same. So when one person makes a funny joke, which is empirically funny, millions of other people decide that's their joke. Right. And so like they die, no one has humor for themselves in the same way too. Because when someone were to comment on my thing, something empirically funny, I'd love it. Exactly, right? I think it's hilarious. Also, there's nothing you can say to me that I haven't done to myself. Yeah, exactly. What's going to happen? Yeah. But I did notice watching my brother and I was with him during this experience because like, wow, these people are all just saying the same thing and then your number, yeah, the parody, like the numbers game is what really affects people, I think, after a while. It's like the first three comments decide the next 20,000. Yeah, our first episode, I was called Mr. Interruptor once. And then for three episodes ago, here comes Mr. Interruptor again, which is by the way, empirically funny. And I do interrupt you. You talk too much. Which we have, JoJo, name your daughter, because he doesn't have a name yet. I just don't know. He's getting born in what a week. You don't get born. I don't understand why he keeps getting born. What do you say? Getting what? Delivered? She's being born? She's okay. She's being born a week. That sounds weird to me. Actually, you're killing me with this because I don't know either what the baby is doing a week. Yeah. That's very thank you. That's a good one. The baby is doing a week. Oh my god. Congratulations. Thank you. And we don't have a name. Well, we have three names that we're trying to decide, which I don't think I'll spoil on here because we don't actually know. But the truth is is that it does make you take moral inventory of all the girls you hate. Barbara is a strong personality, which I love about her. But she's got a lot of girls. She's like, and I have noticed that it eliminates a lot of names. And I just help you out. Please. Just let her pick. Dude. It's a massive hair. I have. And is she close to her mom? She is. That's a middle name. Just water mom pick. Dude. It's simple. You're kind of right. I don't know. You're a mom. Are you close to your mom still? No. Okay. I was going to say, keep her out of it. You're smart. That's done. Yeah. We got it. We got it. Yeah. We're going to have some Hungarian name. We're going to have the crazier Hungarian name. That's ever existing. You will love your daughter no matter what her name is. Your wife may not. It also matters to the woman. I'm a nickname guy. So, I told Barbara and she did not like this, but I said no matter what name she has, it will not be her name. It will not be her name. It will be Hank for some reason. It's JoJo. Yeah. I can't. So, she did not like that. She's like, no, we need to actually decide, obviously. Well, and look at the look at her name and what the nickname would be. That could stem from that name. Yes. We've done that also in the case of what we were talking about, which is bullying. Yeah. I already have the mind of a 14-year-old boy. But when I'm thinking about names, I go, okay, on the school yard, I'd call them this. You can't name the daughter Fartsa. No. Yeah, exactly. I don't think that was in the running anymore. That's a bit of a long job. You're a poor kid. Hey, let your wife pick the name up. The print is allowed to choose. I think name after someone's only meaningful. You said middle names. You'll be, what are you going to love her? No matter what, you're just going to call her your little baby. Your little girl, your little princess. Well, also in the Sprouts Family tradition, I'm going to be gone for the first five years. You don't. Please don't. I'll be the dad that stepped up. This is your Sprouts Family tradition. That's terrible. That's good. See, that's bullying. That's inherently funny. It's funny. You have to laugh. You don't laugh. You'll cry. You have to. You have to. You have to take levity to all of it. Of course. When did you, I'm curious just because I did not do my research. But when did the bow thing become a thing for you? So it became a thing when I was born. You'll see your little girl will come out the shoot and then they'll put a little hat on her and then they'll put a little bow on it. Really? That's adorable. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it started obviously when I was born and you just, you'll see, you'll put your little girl and little bows. And then I have a joke that as I got older, the bows got bigger. And I think people go through phases with bows, right? Where you wear them until you're about like eight or nine and then you want to be cool. And you don't want to wear a big bow anymore. And you want to be cool until you're like 17 and then you want to be like pretty and elegant. And you put one of those like pretty bows and like this is like a pretty bow, right? Yeah. And so yeah, that's like till you're eight or nine. So we hit nine. We hit nine. Yeah. And then you have like an elegant. So the difference for me was I never went through that phase where I was like, I don't want to wear bows. I always just loved them. It was how I finished my outfit. I always matched my bow to my shoe. The JoJo bow actually became a thing. So when I did Abby's Ultimate Dance Competition, the first TV show, I was dubbed JoJo with the bow bow. My family had always called me that, but then it was just like on TV. Yeah. So say. Yeah. So then it just kind of stuck. Then when I was 13 is when we started to sell them. And they had-- She has sold an absurd amount of bows. Like in the millions, in the tens of millions of bows. Yeah. I didn't realize there was such a Mario for bows. In the 90s of millions. 90s of millions. Come here, no, come here, no. I think Eleanor Bell and Violet, my sisters, added to that. My kid's brand is one of the only-- And it's different as well because I'm reality not just live action. So live action. Yeah. The girl's live action section of the story is a very, very competitive section. Really? Very. Well, you have your Barbie, who's always a number one. But then you always have like whoever's just kind of coming in and out, right? So you have-- right now you would have the descendants. Then before descendants, you would have me. Then before me, you would have Hannah Montana, right? So you have all your different things. But yes, the JoJo brand is one of the only ones that is Hannah Montana. Really? Neither Finley. No.
(laughing) - Holy life inspiration. - With babies. - With babies, yeah. - And I know one of your biggest inspirations to do the new era, which I wanted to talk about, yeah. - Yeah, from Zama's a kid, I wanted to be a animal. - Really? - I will say, by the way, out of a lot of the people that I have known since Disney Channel days, Miley's easily one of the sickest still coolest I think in the world. - Yeah. - And her mom, her concert, where she played the piano. - Shut up, we're there. - No, I thought on YouTube. - And I was like, her voice is so good. - And she's like undeniably up, phenomenal voice. - Undeniably up. - Undeniably a phenomenal voice. And I remember seeing it. - Cool, like she is such a unique, there's so many people that have such a good voice. But she is such a unique good voice. - Yes, the last, it's the country raft. Her cover of Jolene's insane. - Oh, God. - Her songs are very emotionally written, too. - Yeah. - Like she's a good songwriter, yeah. - Yeah. - It's fantastic. - We're talking about Boz, so you crushed the Bo thing. - Demolish them, 90s of millions. - Oh, you'll like this, too. I'm gonna yap some more again, just at you. 'Cause he loves when I yap, that you fall asleep. On the topic of Boz, I remember Barbara was going to do a, I think it was like Venice Film Festival red carpet. And in the modeling game, that's a big one, right? And she's done it since she was like 15. But, you know, they always wanna have like a look. I've put together look. And she was like, you know, I really wanna wear a big bow with this. - Yeah. - And her, I remember her agency was like, you can't. And the designers was like, you shouldn't. And Owen, who is her hairstylist, who's the man. - Very cool guy. - Is like, oh, we're gonna crush this. - Yeah. - And put the bow on her. And this is me sitting on the couch playing video games by the way, but they're talking about this and it was like a provocative choice. I remember it being like a, whoa. And then Barbara won that year, like the best dressed at Venice Film Festival. And I remember-- - It's a prom. - I think about a. - Totally, yeah. - I remember the people who were hating on her for the bow, like kind of came out of the woodworks and were like, it was amazing. And then the next year, everyone had a (beep) bow. - And I went, you know what? - This is a time. - Interesting how, when you take a chance, people don't like it, but then people copy it. And it's like, it's almost like that bravery, but it's also just that she didn't wanna look like everyone else. She had the vision and she trusted herself. - Yep. - So, Jojo, you're big and a whore. - Yeah, and I love Halloween hornites. - Oh, so much fun to go with. - And it's like, no one wants to go. And I'm like, I love Halloween. - Okay. - We'll go with the wildman, go to whore. - Thank God. - What are you gonna dress up as this year? Do you know? - For Halloween. - Oh, no, I was actually thinking of that on my way here. Last year's Halloween, so, so prior to dating, it requires a little bit of a backstory. - Got it. - Prior to dating my boyfriend, Chris, I only dated women, and I still do. - I only dated women, and so I'm really tight with dudes, like that just was always my vibe. And so anyways, I met Chris on a TV show. We were filming Big Brother. And I became friends with him as I do every dude. And we got really close and whatever. And one day he was wearing boxers, and his balls were hanging out of them. We're living together. And so I said, I said, put Jimmy and Timmy away. (laughing) And then I became a running joke. And I said, I said, oh, (beep) Jimmy and Timmy are, I don't wanna see that. I became a running joke. Well, then we started dating. And I found that we found love, and it wasn't meant to happen. Or it wasn't designed to happen, but it was meant to happen. And so anyways, then he was doing an interview, and Jimmy and Timmy think, you're on TV. (laughing) Was it weird, 'cause he wasn't my boyfriend. - Oh, yeah. - So anyways, Jimmy and Timmy, people know about it, but it wasn't a thing, 'cause we were just friends at the time, then a few months into us dating, somebody asked Chris about. I think it was, they asked him about Freddie and Teddy, and he replied by saying, oh, she has a thing for rhyming names, you know how she calls my balls, Jimmy and Timmy. And it just was normal natural, like five times. Well, then it was this whole thing. - Jordan calls it boyfriend's balls, Jimmy and Timmy. It was the whole thing everywhere. - By the way, if I read that article, I would have - Cracked up. - Thought it was hilarious. - It was hilarious. - Yeah, it was fun. - It was so funny. - It's so funny. So anyways, for Halloween last year, I told them that they had a surprise for us. And I got those like, bosu balls that you're like. - Oh, like the Southburg ones? - And I got like a tan, I got two tan ones, and then I got a, hello, my name is Jimmy, and hello, my name is Timmy. - That's awesome. - And we sat on a, and I got him dressed, I mean, I got him dressed, and I sat on him on the ball, and I said, don't, and I said, open your eyes. (laughing) - So I don't know if I can live up to Jimmy and Timmy. - That's a whole new cheek of best. - Hard, hard one to beat. - That is the best thing. - Did you say? - Stay on him all night, the bosey balls. - No, we were in the Bahamas on our first vacation together. - We were in the battlefront sand. - Yeah, and so we just, we went out and out of them. - How did you guys start dating? - We started dating, so we met on Big Brother, and then we, I got off the show, and we took, we were apart for, I think it was like a month, 'cause we ended in the mid of April, and then I saw him again in the mid of May, and between those two points in time, we spoke every single day. I knew how I was feeling about him. He obviously knew how he was feeling about me. Like, you can watch, it's actually beautiful. You can watch the series, and you do see a very special connection between the two of us. And in full-candered, I was actually in a relationship. Not a good relationship, but I was in a relationship, and I realized after being in the Big Brother House for two days, I realized very early on that while I'm in a bad situation right now, so just, just on the right situation, right? Not fair to say about situations. - That's where it works. - Yeah, just wasn't right, and I realized I needed to get out, but I said also, I'm in this house, and I need to sort my life when I'm outside of this house. - Well, there's a lot of things going on at once, but then, so I get out of the house, and I didn't want to handle said relationship immediately. I wanted to kind of give a bit of breathing room, but then it ended up happening immediately, which is, it was just fine. - Probably better, get the band out of the room. - It worked out for the better. Yeah, I wanted to kind of take a second, and it just worked out that the band they got ripped off, and so you know what? Bandage ripped off fine. So anyways, then, yeah, month passes by, and Chris comes and surprises me in Mexico, and then he, 'cause I had a performance, one day in Mexico, and then fly to Orlando to spend our birthdays there. And, yeah, he came to Mexico, came to Orlando, met my whole family. We had spoken every single day. - That's awesome. - And we didn't really know how we were. We were talking about doing a TV show, and you know, it's a reality show, just our adventures, and then at the end, it's like a will they won't they? Like, 'cause what is this tension? No one knew what it was, right? Even we didn't. And then when he came to Mexico, it was like, we know. - You know? - We know. - Were you shocked at all? - It was very weird for me. So I've always been grossed out by dudes. Like, yeah, me too. We are disgusting. - It was disgusting. - It was disgusting. - I had three sisters, and I don't know guys, and I'm like, he can't even talk about poop without my getting weird. But I'm with you, that makes a lot of sense. - No, so a lot of my best friends, I've been talking about my boy best friends. They are conventionally hot men, right? Of Tyler Cameron is a hot dude. He's one of my best friends. I, yeah, like, I know I could picture him. - You already know what I mean. - He's not a bachelor. Yeah. - Of course you already know, hot dude. And he knows a hot dude on his face. - He's not going off. - He's got hot dude. What do you got hot dude, fobie? - Yeah, I get nervous around him. - And so Chris is a very conventionally hot dude. He comes from La Violin. That's how he got his start in the industry. And so conventionally hot dude. I thought it was just another friend adding to the face, right? And then, you know, once I realized that I wasn't grossed out by the thought of him being a boy, I was like, whoa. It was definitely, it was weird because I'd never thought that before. And I have other boy friends that are hot. - Yeah. - And I was never attracted to them. In that way, I love them with my whole entire mind. I always joke that my bridal party's gonna be all dudes. It's gonna be hilarious. But yeah, with Chris, it was more so, it actually was fascinating because I physically thought I would never be with a dude, ever. I just never thought it was possible. And people always say, oh, you know, what if something happened with Chris? Who would you date? Would you go for boys or would you go for girls? And I say, well, at this point, I say, I have no right to say. I say, because you can find interviews of me where I have sworn on how gross dudes are. And I'll never be with one and how to head over heels and love with one. And so, yeah, people always ask that. And it's always just like, I have no right to say, but I really do think that Chris is very much so like the special dude. Like, you just-- - Oh, yeah, by the way, you can also fully be in love with a vibe. - And that's what I was convinced of. - Yeah, when I first came out, I came out and I said, oh, if we need everyone in the beginning, what's your label? What's your label? Oh, no. - I know, you don't have to put anything on it. It's so strange to me. - Exactly. And so, I put the label pansexual on it. Then it was confusing. And so, I was like, I'll be a lesbian. But I said, okay, I'll be gay. I said, it's just easier to say gay. I said, but I'm a lesbian. If we all need to know the technical terms. But then I really, really, like, I hate that I like him like, no, I just am the umbrella term of queer or pansexual. Because, yeah, I fell in love with, I fell in love with a boy. Here we are. - I mean, the Jimmy and Timmy thing automatically makes me think he's awesome. - Oh, my God, he did it. - He is awesome. Y'all would get along really well. He's a really fun dude. He is, I'm staring at his favorite movie. We just saw it in the end. - Did you go to the theaters? See it?
- You do remind me of these two. - Which one's which, which one's which? - Which one's which? - Which one's which? - You actually don't remind me of this. (all laughing) But he mentioned it earlier than dead. He said don't mention it. (all laughing) - I just made my day and then ruined it. (upbeat music) - Well you have a good connection with your fans I feel like. Everyone feels like they know you and you're on the cruise and I think that's very important too. You seem like, I mean, again, not to keep complimenting Dylan but a lot of people watch his show and felt like they knew him. - He's going to go home right now. - Yeah, he's going to get out. (all laughing) - Why are you so happy? (all laughing) - But JoJo, what was I saying? - Oh, everyone, you just feel like personable and everyone knows you from the videos. Which is a great departure from like untouchable celebrities, I think. - Yeah. - You know what I mean? - Yeah, it's interesting. I think it comes from reality TV. Like everyone thinks they know everything and it's interesting like I had to manage that with myself being like, these people think they know everything just let them let them have their moment, right? - And what do they deserve to know and what don't they deserve, right? That's another thing. - I see my mom always used to try to say to me, everyone doesn't even know everything 'cause I would vlog every day in my life, right? And I'd be honest about everything and open about everything and she would say, everyone doesn't even know everything. And as I'd become an adult, I didn't make that change until I started dating people. Once I started dating people, that's when I decided, okay, yeah, no, everyone doesn't need to know everything. It's no longer just your privacy, now you're bringing someone else into it. - Correct, correct. And I made the mistake a few times. - Oh, no. - I'm just bearing out too much information. Yeah, absolutely. - I have to, I mean, I'll say, like, my, again, relating to my like my brother and I situation that I was telling you about with the podcast thing, like my brother has always been kind of how I feel like you are and how you are. And most of our friends, I'll say, are very true to who they are, right? They're very true and you could love them or leave them, but that is who they're going to be when you see 'em, a year from now, 10 years from now, blah, blah, blah. My brother's also this way and I love that side of him. I think he's just like, he's wonderful, he's incredibly intelligent, but of witness to bad reaction to him going, this is who I am truly and of witness the opposite reaction in a way that also seems unfair to me, saying things too. And I go, okay, so where's the line, where's the line that we draw? I, we were raised in a household, which is just a very small family unit, which was my brother, my father, and I. And my dad, for all of the things that were wrong with him, he still are, he, I love you, dad. - He's brought the family to you. - He's brought the family to you, it's five years. - He is also, he was always really good about if something was bothering you, you put it into words immediately. - Talk about it. - And he, and I think actually that's an opposite for a lot of dudes, is like, if something's bothering you, go work out. - Yeah, shove it down and don't say anything. - He went through a hard path in his life, in his early youth, and then he, he built himself back into like a human being. And I think through that process, he became very vocal about telling you what he felt. And he instilled that in my brother and I, and I thought it's always been unfair that in my brother's moments of being very honest, he gets attacked for it a lot. And I've witnessed, even in us talking about having you on the pod, I've witnessed an unfair treatment of you in a lot of ways, and an unfair, and it pisses me off, because sitting here with you now, I'm like, this is sick as hell, dude. - I'm a lot different, right? Once you just have a conversation with me, like a lot of people expect one thing and don't give me wrong, I'll give you that one thing, like I will, and I do, and I am, nothing is fake or fabricated, right? But there are things that are performative, and there are things that are out there. But yeah, I remember Robert Irwin re-quoting the quote, but somebody said it originally, I think maybe it was Tom Holland, if you have a problem with me, call me. You can't call me, you don't know me well enough to have a problem with me. - I like that, that's a good one. - Yeah. (upbeat music) - Well, I would like to say for the record, that this has been a wonderful time. - My piece, man, I didn't want to hang out with you after this. - I don't trust you. - Anytime. - Do you guys call? - Oh, I love golf. - Oh, you come on. - You go. - You're just getting better and better. - You actually go. - He's not great, but I like golfing. - I like golfing. - Guys, come to Palm Springs. - Yeah. - Come for a trip. - Yeah, we love to. - Anytime, I live there now. I live on the golf course. - We go every single day. - Oh, yeah. - You go. - So I started about three or four months ago. - Okay. - And I've gotten really good, really fast. - What do you live on a course? - I live on a course. I'm no excuse, but so yeah, picked up a club first time four months ago. - No way. - And I, yesterday, played bogey golf. - Whoa. - That's better than me. I've been playing for three years. - Pretty dang good. - Every hole was a bogey. - That's, how could that feel? - It's so rewarding. - All server warriors. - Loads of bars, loads of bars, but I haven't made my birdie yet. I haven't made a birdie yet, but loads of bars. - Part three birdie, it's in your future this month. - Yeah. - Yeah, please come both anytime. - Well, please, let's give a round of applause for Joe, Joe. - Have a happy day. (upbeat music) - Well, first off, thank you to Keynes for partnering up with an episode that I think is honestly so sick. - Did they get the deal of a lifetime? - That was so fun. - Uh-huh. - She is a joy. - I mean, I came in as a fan of Joe, Joe, 'cause I've seen her with my sister for years, and I find her hilarious on life. - She is empirical. - But in person, she's cool. She's really cool. - No, I'm not dating out with her for 10 hours here. - She invited us golfing. - I go hell yeah. - With each passing thing that she was talking about, she's just somehow continuously growing on me. - Like, I didn't know that was possible. - She lives in pubs, springs and golfs, then she flies to Florida and does indoor skydiving. And then you go, it's different than outdoor skydiving. She goes, oh, is it? I can wait. You've been doing this for 10 years. You haven't tried the big leagues yet? (laughing) - You've been indoors skydiving for 10 years? I should have asked her if she's done outdoor stuff. - I am gratified that my hour-long arguments with Cole about how sick wrapping the car with your faces pays off with the coolest person. - Well, she's so excited that you guys were talking, 'cause she was a super fan, which I never knew. - I mean, yeah. - She's a DS super fan. - Dude, she knows every episode. - She knows that episode's better than I knew. - I don't know. - I mean, it's crazy, that's awesome. - Yeah. - I wish we could did a dance with her tic-tac dance. - I'm so scared of that. - I know, you were really-- - She's also a professional dancer. - Well, she could teach us in a second. - Yeah. - That's kind of fair. - I should have asked her about my wedding dance, too. That's why I forgot. - No, she's-- - And he's some tips. - She was an alternate chiller, dude. - Yeah, for your somba. How's that going, by the way? - It's (beep) good. (laughing) - People are gonna be sobbing in the aisles. If you make it, you'll see. - How many sessions have you done now? - Six is Monday, and then I leave, or Sunday. - I do number six. - Six is Monday. - And then you nervous about when it hits at all. - Oh, dude. - I'm terrified. - As soon as the vows are done and the dance is done, I'm a free man, you know? - Yeah, yeah. - Well, so I remember when the dance came out. First off, Barbara is like a professional dancer. - Yeah. - She is so good. She's one of those people that can look at someone doing a dance and then just do it without having ever tried it. - Really? - Yeah, she's got like a weird, she's able to digest the movements. - And know the body parts exactly to do it immediately. And I'm like, how are you able to do that? She's an alien. So I was terrified of the first dance for good reason. But we did all right. After that, I was like-- - Did you have a first song? - Yeah, it was what song was it? - We did the theme from Hell's Moving Castle. - Oh, wow, cool. What's your first song? The boys are back in town? - Sick, it's a Tom Fettys song, it's kind of cool. - Yeah. - Did you agree to that only? - I am a petty fanatic, dude. But I went to, I was a little hungover one day after when I was like 23 or something. And I, and I take it, I was like, oh, I got these extra tickets to Petty night. I go, oh, you know what? I can't make it tonight. I could have moved things around. I didn't. He performs that night, ends with, what are you going to do? He ends with a, we have to look this up. But finishes the Hollywood Bowl. And I'm like, oh, you know, I'll catch him next time. Next day, he dies. So the only time I could have ever seen Petty was the day I didn't go and then he died the next day. And it just pissed me off. - That's a bummer, dude. - I know. - That's a huge bummer. Well now, you know, you're dedicating your first answer. - Yeah, well, that's why I'm going to apologize to him. - I don't think he'll care. There's a, I will say look out for this, by the way. - The cat, like Tom pet me. (laughing) - Maybe a cat that? - I liked by the way as I'm starting to talk. - I'm seeing you look up and like, Tom pet me. - You're really? - I'm like, I'm sure it. - I really like that, so I'm keeping that. - Are you good at dancing to, like, just songs? - No. - He's just like, at a wedding? - No, I love to wiggle. I love to groove and get down. - Yeah. - But I have no classical motion. - Steps, it's all of this. - I know, I know. - Just look down at your toes and go like this and keep your arms up and you look like a great dancer. - See, this looks bad to me. - Yeah. - And I'm gonna try to tell you. - Look at this. - This is scary. - This is a really unique way to dance. - Yeah. - Then you lean and go back and now you look like either walk in or like, just Travolta. - Yeah, you're doing the Travolta and now it's walk in. - No, no, it's walk in. - Pulled fiction. - No, no, no. (laughing) - That's my own dance. - No, that's a good dance. - That's really scary. I do love to get down and wiggle. Like, if I have a few drinks, I'll groove. - Yeah. - But I just,
It's also enjoy just like wig one. I don't really need to feel like, and by the way, I feel like when you're on a dance floor with someone who's like, it's my time to take it incredibly seriously. I go, weird. - Yeah, weird. - Just enjoy yourself, don't think too much. - Just dance. - Just bounce it up and down. - Yeah, just the killers comes on and you're like, "Band." ♪ I'm on my cage ♪ - I band it because you're coming to the wedding. - And that's good. - That's a smart one. - No, Mr. Brightside. - No, Mr. Brightside at your wedding would light up all of your like affluent San Francisco friends in a way that might get violent. - The finance guys? - Yeah. - No, my mom actually did say that. - She goes. - 'Cause the last three weddings we've been with the San Fran friends by 11 o'clock, everyone takes their shirts off and starts like dancing hard. - And I think they're investing, investing, accounting, but I think they, you know, they work really hard with numbers all week. So then when they get to a wedding on Saturday, they just gotta pop 'em off. - It's party time. - Yeah, 'cause it's my butt and downs all the time. - Butt and downs all the time. Yeah, so this is new for us to wear a suit for them it's bread and butter, you know? - Yeah, I do. - I feel like if I wore a suit every day and I had an opportunity to, you know, get crazy on a dance floor, I don't think I had an unbutton. I think I'd rip. - I do rip. - That's cool. - The rip is cool with the talks when it's the studs. 'Cause then the studs just fly out and bring twinkle. - Yeah, exactly. - The thing you gotta find 'em. - Yeah, no. - Or you don't. - Tie side of the head guys. Kind of a crazy guy. - Yeah, that's cool. - So you know that guy's wild. (upbeat music) - Do you have an alternate identity? - Cool. - Cool. - Cool. - It's just a punchline all the time. - I know. That's two years too easy. - I know. - No, alternate identity. - You know, people are like yeah, when I drink I turn into like, you know, Frank. - I do. - That's from old school, but yeah. - So I can turn into like a, like I kind of go like wear wolf mode. - Oh. - Every once in a while. - When I get a little crazy. - Yeah. - But I don't tend to get grumpy when I drink. There's only been a few times. And like when I've drank and I've gotten like, whoa, he's a grumpy right now. And it's only certain alcohols. - That's what people say. - Socky weirdly. - Socky based, you man. - Yeah, weirdly makes me feel like. - It's kind of why. - 'Cause you get so hungry after sushi. - That's true. - Sushi's faster. You dissolve it faster, you're belly. So you're always hungry faster. - And that's kind of fair. That's fair. (beep) - Science. - Yeah, you know. - Are you a scientist? - I am. - What about you? Do you ever gotten like drunk angry? - Never. I'm not an angry person. - I've never, I don't think I've seen you angry except for the time that we had our only fight. - We yelled at each other and Dylan's like, "You want attention on yourself all the time." I was like, "Del, you're like you, dude." And we were like, "So it's the argument we should start a podcast." (laughing) - The argument was just who wants attention more. - There's no attention more. There's not both of us. (laughing) Next time I see you, you'll be a dad. - And next time I see you, you'll be a married woman. - No, you're the one I'm gonna see tonight. - We trick the audience. - Oh, oh. - Another lie. - Another lie. You know what I'd go love is running out of sweet tea. I love it. - Dude, I know. I could crush the sweet tea. - You know I have a good idea for Dr. Graves? - Yeah. - Sports bar. - Raising canes. So all of it, it's still one love. He still has the chicken fingers, but you also add draps, bruski. - You'd crush it. - Yeah, and you just make your own. You call it raisin foam. - I like that, wait. - Let's think of something better. - Canes brew. I mean, that's probably easiest. Canes brew house. - Yeah. - I'd go to that in a second though. Sports bars, but he has to have TV with game audio. Really good NFL season. - Dr. Graves, beers and fingers. - Ooh, I like that. - Dr. Graves beers and fingers, I would go to. - I would go every day. We could be the waitresses. - I text, I text so, by the way, I was like, Brennan's cracking me up because he's still calling Todd. Dr. Graves throughout all of this, and says he has a PhD chicken. - He ducked, he would, she responded. He does. - Yeah. - I'm keeping up with this. - Do you have your bow on still? I didn't, you can't even feel these things. I didn't know I had it on. - I didn't know I had it on too. Maybe you just need to have your bow. - Can you feel yours? - No. - I feel like the princess of the pea. The prince of the penis. (laughing) - Dude, you're on Friday today. All of these, all of these lines. - Shit, you are a writer, bro. - Dude, dude. - You got a crush on me. - How excited are you for beers? I can tell you. - I am. - Let's go, like, a week and a half since I had a blue ski. - See what I have in, I haven't had a blue ski. - Three weeks? - Yeah, beginning of the month. - Gotta say, is there a comeback time where we just, are you done forever until she's 18? - I am. - I'm busy, Pasha. - Pregngy Pasha. I think realistically when the baby is more of an actual human being and less, you know, I will say, I'm actually terrified of holding babies, like that is like, it's a scary thing. - I was terrified for a while, dorthy my knees. And I was like, like, there's a picture of us holding, you're holding-- - Grandpa. - And I'm holding dorthy. We can put that up there, maybe. I don't know. - I was in that team. - But I was holding, I have the picture. You don't have to send it to me. I was holding dorthy for like the first time and you're like, really scared. And you're like, walk in, like, your walk through a minefield. - I know. - And then, I don't know, two, three months go by and I'm like, pff, just toss it around. I'm like, I'm like, a horrible globe trotter, you know? And it's like, you get so used to carrying a kid. It just, and I'm not, you know, it's my niece, but still, I think you're gonna, you'll just lock in within a day and a half. - I'm just, there's a weird thing about me that goes like, why do I feel like I'm like clumsiest when I'm carrying something so precious? - Oh, you are, 'cause you're thinking about the most. - I know, and I just, I'm terrified of that. Also, I have this terrible fear of, like, strapping on the baby Bjorn and the straps just come loose and the baby just goes, goodbye. - Where? Are you overwhelmed? (laughing) Where's it going? You would only fall to feet, you're 5'11. Oh, flip 5'4. - Yeah, that's 5'4. - I was trying to call you short, but I forgot. (laughing) - No order. - Why is everything a pirate with you? - I love pirates, man. - You really do. - I always did. - Well, should we go, it's the weekend, should we go drink like pirates? - Yeah, all right. - Not you, mommy. (laughing) - That's cold. - Really?
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