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Joey Diaz' 2nd seventh grade teacher

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Joey Diaz' 2nd seventh grade teacher

The speaker shares a passionate reflection on the vibrant, unfiltered world of sports, school, and community in his youth, centered around the ABA’s legacy and its contrast with the NBA. He recounts his own journey into basketball, recalling the raw excitement and cultural importance of the ABA, where players like Julius Irving and Mac Calvin were celebrated despite minimal pay. He highlights the unorthodox, almost surreal nature of school life in the 1970s—where teachers were bold, students bonded deeply, and personal relationships were central to daily life. He contrasts this with today’s education system, where emotional connections are absent, students remain disconnected, and teachers struggle to build trust. The narrative includes vivid anecdotes of school field trips, teacher misconduct, and neighborhood culture in Hudson County, where figures like Wally Lindsey and the speaker’s father operated with wild, chaotic energy. These stories underscore a lost era of authenticity and connection. The speaker ends by expressing a desire to document this forgotten world in a book, emphasizing that the real spirit of community, risk, and personal growth was once woven into everyday experiences in places like North Bergen and Hudson County—something he feels is now missing in modern life.

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What's happening? You beautiful people. It's the church of what's happening now. New testament. I keep saying new edition. It's February, Tuesday, February the 17th, a beautiful day to be alive. My sidekick here, Lee Syat, the Jewish Kato. Hello, Lee. I hope we still came with Mr. Barone. And we got Mr. Barone, my seventh great teacher, and his trusted sidekick Joe Barone, who grew up to become a pharmacist. Good man. Not in a whole bulk of pharmacy. Check him out. Anyway, we're here. We're queer. What's happening, gentlemen? Great, great time. Great to be here. You were talking about the NBA game last night, the African ballet. Poor guy. He's like, you can't put this out there. We can't have this made somebody and then you say lead off the third sentence. Mr. Barone, we know, you know how we do it, but it's funny that you came here today because I was doing something last week and I saw a public service announcement, Julius Irving, and he was headed to the Soul Power premiere in the city. They had a screening, and he talked about Soul Power, and I forgot to tell you in Staten Island, when you came to the show. So Soul Power is like an eight part documentary on the ABA. Fucking tremendous. I got drafted. Yeah, no, the Miami Floridians, they showed them, and they had, it started with Rick Barry, how they had to get a name, and then they had to take them to court, Golden State. Fucking, and then he sat out the year, and then they went after Connie Hawkins. And then I'm only up to episode two. They're just going into Julius Irving, but it's fucking you. It's great, man, but it was showing how it was like the NBA was boring, and they showed some white guy dribbling, and the announce is like, look at how he dribbles meticulously, and also they show like Alameyverson fucking doing shakes and all this shit for us, so it was the ABA, but it was just saying that the NBA was not exciting, and that's when the NBA took it. That's it. Well, you know, the Florida, the Florida, oh genius, Miami Floridians, they had, they showed every team, according to the map in the beginning, the star. They drafted me. Yeah. And I went down here. I went down to the gym. The gym was like a bakery. The ABA was a great, it was starting to be good, but the NBA knew we got to get rid of this league. We went for my first practice that I went to. I said, where's my shirt? My, I got out in the way. I didn't bring anything. The guy says it's in it's in that box. I opened up the box. It's the Flintstones shirts. Is this a comedy? I wind up saying for two weeks, the guy sent me down for a contract. When he gave it to me, I said, I'm going, I got a job in a grandma school. And I said, I'm making twice as much money as this. And your ABA got eight up. The guy who was the, the start great players, and they all went to the MBS star that he was Mac Calvin. Mac. Yeah. They talk about him getting drafted. He was the staff. He got drafted for 15,000 and for a $3,000 bonus. He was the star and nothing crazy. And he goes, they gave me the opportunity to play and all the shit. He knows everybody. Yeah. The guy was, you know, the president of the league was George Mike. Well, the Mike and drills, he was really, this was was really interesting. So I thought you should watch it, you know, take your time. It's on prime video. It's free. I think the two bucks, you get no commercials. But I want to know, like, I want to know. So were you eligible in the NBA draft too? And then you saw just ABA and you made that choice. I did that. The free throw thing in college. You had, look, you have the record for the most free throws. Yeah. And then, but I'm the highest percentage. I don't know. As you play one year and you get the highest, they give you your percent. They were, they were today, if you have 88, you win. I was 97. How many free throws did you take? 246 at a 250. And I had the record. I had the record, which is 65. It's 50 years now. Now the thing that annoys me the most after I missed. And it was one of those, uh, Monclist, I missed one game. And I made 52 more. But then they've seen you. They're going to break this. He's a senior now. And he has to tell me a girl. I just broke it. But tell me, tell them what you told me. He said, if I have a new about, we didn't know about it till he had, he was going after the 60 record. He said to me, if I want to know about this, I would have made 300. He said, nobody will break it. He didn't know the free throw of a son now. Everybody was waiting to see if I made my first two that night. Why do you think so many NBA players have such a pro? I watched the nicks. What about that center? Le Robinson. Beautiful. But he doesn't, at least last year, he couldn't hit a free throw. And like, Shaq is famous for it. Why do you say that you're talking about? Yeah. Or anything. Why do all of these standing on the beach? He would miss the ocean. And like, well, like these are the best players in the world. Why can't they? He's going to get, I'm making him get in touch with this guy. I can help him. He wants me to see if I can I don't like getting touched. Come to the end of the game. Nick's room lives. He fouled him. He's in the game. What is the coach got him in a game for? He misses free throws. They lose. And you're 100% right with him. He don't take two the same way. And he shoots. He has, there's no, you know about features. I can help him. We got to get in touch with him. Let's get in touch with him right now. It's crazy how the third of his salary. It's crazy how you play basketball. You can do all these. He's a good player. Play Scram dunk. But then you fucked him miss a free throw. And he rifles him off the thing. And I know that the art of free throwing is something completely different. He really is. Mr. Burron will break it down for you at a different time. Because he's a basketball player. You see it. I just went to dinner and chuck him with Burin speaking. So he says, Hey, did you know my old coach is here? My grandma's school coach. So he says, no, I had a, I, I was a smart guy in high and grandma's school. And he used to get even with me. He says, one day I'm in a gym. And I said, I can not shoot you for free throws. He says to me because he was cocky. Yeah, he was cocky. You know, and I said, all right, how much? He says $10. He gets a dollar from each kid. They're not eating lunch today. So sure enough, he says, you got to give me move back. I said, no, I'll shoot lefty. And he tells the story. Chuck made eight in a row, eight out of ten. I made ten out of ten left because I'm all screwed up. I'm ambidextrous. I play baseball left handed. And he throws lefty. And I throw left handed, but I shoot a basketball right hand. He played he played whenever we used to go do some, I say, what are you doing this as? Like, first I went and played golf. He golf's lefty. And wait a minute, softball. He doesn't, he don't break about himself as a softball player. The championship game down in Hoboken. That was a great lead down there. They had all the greats. He had three homers in the championship game before Jackson did it. He hit three homers championship game. He wasn't even a, like, considered a baseball softball player, but I remember that game. I was there. You hit three homers, Leo's Grande Vu. Leo's never go to Leo's. That was there. That was our team. That was there. Leo's Grande Vu. You missed teacher, Mr. Broderon? Yes. I missed the kids and I missed the teachers. But you missed while the teachers are the kids. You know, I taught 49 years, but I made a mistake. I wanted a stay for 50 years. Yeah. So I put in my papers. I go home and I'm figuring out, let me just check this. I thought you was a man teacher. It was 49. It's 49 years. I saw I call up the school. Can I, you know, they wouldn't let me fucking change it. No, no, that's, that's it. You're retired. The papers are in. The father was there. I get it. You know, who's North Bergen's biggest rival? Hoboken. Go to Hoboken for a year. Always. Do like, you know, when I first moved to North Bergen, I needed a fucking cop to follow me around because we always beat North Bergen in basketball. Right. Always beat them. And you were the killer. And when I, when I started hanging out in places and in courts, I used to be scared. I used to say, I'm just like, I gotta kick the shit out of me. like cursing me and is trying to hurt me. I said, hey, but guys, I live here now. The first the first time I'm a bro in the first time I met Maddie Cimbello, he's he's always had a fedora on. He says, bro, he says, your brother's John Barone. He says, you're coming in with Bergen, right? Next year, I said, yeah, he says, he's the one that made me get this, takes his hat off bold head. He says, I'm bold because he or brother. I never, we never, six times they played them six times. I played against them. Six thought it as a softball six times. Yeah, we beat him six times. You found the whole team out one time. Remember? Oh, that's a record too. I have 23. No, it's not in the picture I gave you. I got to give you a different one. I had they found me St. Joseph's Cross Treat from a memorial. They found me 20. I got to the line 23 times four and I made 22. That's a high school record. Nobody, I never even knew about it. You found that whole team out too. They only had three guys. Nobody mentions that. Found the whole team. The last few minutes, there was three guys. How cool was it to be a good at sports in high school? Like were you getting all the girls? Like how were you? I was a cool being like good at sports in high school because I wasn't. I had some Mufti Tay's Italian girl whose mother was the best cook in Holbrook and I stayed with him for two years. It's all about the food. I love it. I figured you'd miss teaching. I figured you would miss it. I miss it. When I take my grandson when he was going to Lincoln School and I passed it everything, I wanted to walk in and I did it a couple of times. I walked in and they said, "What are you doing?" He had shut the I'm here. I feel like walking around. I think these people don't know who you are. These new people working. Hey you. Yeah. I'm reading this place. Now I'm in charge of, I'm in charge of in school for at least 20 years. I get the worst kids every day. I had 160 kids. We couldn't fit in a big theater. They have a theater there with like 60 chairs. We had to go in the auditorium. You should have seen that. A couple of times I went to visit, I didn't give them something or whatever I wanted to say. He's up on the stage, on the desk, and all these kids are like this. You know, he's watching them all and he, I don't know how he did it. I didn't talk him. Stop this. Don't do that. I was a comedian. I was a motherfucker. I was like and it works. The kids knew, you knew I liked you when you were in my class. What about when the parents came to parents night? The kids don't like you. They won't listen to you. Parents night and today, I get it. What about when you told me parents night, a couple of parents came to you and said, "You're your favorite teacher." Not an English teacher. Did the tension teacher. How the hell is that? It's crazy because I go to more of my daughter's events now and she's in the seventh grade. God bless. So now when I look at the fucking teachers that they have down there. They're bad. It's something they're bad. They're young. We had teachers that were dusty. You can blow the dust off. I have a thing with that. I rather my kid be with a young teacher. You know why? Because they take it on the level as their first year. It's like your first year coaching. You do too much. It's the people teaching 49 years at a fucking doing that. Thank you book out. You know, but there's no. They're the best teachers. The first 10 years. They young, but there's no bond. Okay. When I went to school, I was there at 830 and you went home at 3. That's six and a half hours without the lunch, right? But you're still walking around at lunch. In those days, that was more than your parents saw you. That's 30 hours a week. You get home at 3. Let's say you play a sport. You get home at five. If both your parents are home, you're lucky. If one of them, you know, you weighed dinner eight o'clock, nine o'clock, 10 o'clock. You went to bed. Yeah. So you didn't see them. They became a part of your fabric. Now, I'm watching my daughter. My daughter goes school and comes home. I ask her about her teachers. Not a fucking word. Not a fucking word. Because these teachers aren't pushing through that barrier. They're not getting through that barrier. They just scratch the surface. Your generation of teachers, whether it was whatever you want to say about Mr. Kingwell, that motherfucker made you do oral book reports. You make a kid do an oral book report today. He'll fucking die. He'll die. Okay. And he would go to the middle of the book and ask you what was the name of the tablet on the third floor when Penny one upstairs. And you're like, oh, you don't know how good you guys like his era, the students were like, they're your kids. They never had a gym and they never had a lunchroom. You know what they were? They ate lunch in the hallway in front of my class on a piece of wood coming out of the wall sitting on empty boxes every day and being happy and being happy about a punchball in the hallway being my punchball. We did in the winter time, you either shovel snort mechanically or you did fucking America's the presidential program. We have to do 10 pull ups and 10 pushups and there's always that chubby kid that can't do it. Yeah. No fuck that. So, but now that's what I've been going to this school for three years. It's a great school, great curriculum, but that personal and I talk like I look at my daughter's friends. They're a bunch of fucking retards. Like I look at you know, they make plans on Friday, Saturday, the kid's mother isn't driving now. They're fucking retarded. I mean, the whole experience and this is what I think. I think when we grew up, we were we were all going to the same thing at home. Everybody had something going on at home. Everybody. Yeah. Whose father was a bookie. Whose father was this? Whose daughter's child a guy in the back nine times in self-defense. Whose mother did this? And even if it was known or it wasn't known, you had you were friends with kids through an emotional bond. Like it was my daughter don't have that. You brought your problems to them. They said, what do you think? This is what I'm going through. Then what happened to me? It's it's you bonded with them and they they got you through a lot of shit. And I guess at the end, I mean, I can't imagine. I used to say them and say, what was this fucking guy do all some of us to burn? He swims in his yard. He plays basketball or whatever. He's missing us as much as we miss him. We've been in this half for 10 fucking months. He used to be good the first month. Remember him every year saying to me, you know, I should retire. This is then August 1st. He's been saying to me, I got to get the fuck out of this house. You know, like, I don't care. 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But the point is that thing is missing now. I see I see it with her like she always asked me how do I'm the way home she was. How was he your teacher in the seventh grade? They don't I don't think these kids when they grow up they're going to talk to their friends in the fifth grade and eighth grade. Not like we did now I can't make a move without thinking of one of my friends or whatever. Of course. Yeah. You know, so it's just really weird how teaching has changed. Mr. Barone was a fucking mind reader. Because I remember jerking off one time. Not in school. Not in school because we had Mr. Barone during the big Benny Hill thing. The beginning of Benny Hill. So every day me bishop, you know, people saying that there was a tit on Benny Hill. They would show titties and shit. And one night I banged one out for like a Benny Hill thing. Right. I'm in there. My mom's not home. I'm banging this motherfucker out. And that was not the first time I came, right? In the next day, I'm in school. I can all creepy shit. Not knowing what to do. And Mr. Barone's got this glue. And it's not Elma's glue. It's the glue that looks like cum. And he's going like this when he goes, Hey, Coco. What's this remind you of? I was like, no. I think the whole book can help me. Yeah. The whole book. I went to school there. We had, I could write a book. I could write a book. Have you read this book that's out that I didn't get calls to read? What's that? Bob's gold. And then there's his gold. Gold bar, Bob. Oh, like the senator. And then to read it. I haven't read it, but I'll tell you I got a message you in city. I got a message. How does a guy like that who had 10 gold bars in his closet and all this other money that they found in his bank and everything. How does his son with the same fucking name run and win? Where are these people looking at? That's what gets me beautiful. I give somebody, you know, if my kids were in school, he must go out of box. Yeah. Hard. That was. Yeah. It's just that $10 million. You remember? Must know was the man. It was worth his gold. He was like a legend. Bank. He must have done some good work for them. I mean, he did people like him. Other than the old bars, they do a bad word. Right. That's it. But it's just really crazy. That's the message I got. That's the exact message I got. Don't read that book. Don't read it. Don't read it because you don't know a lot of the names. Yeah. And you don't want to see those names. Yeah. So I ordered it today on Amazon. Yeah. I'll get it. I was going to go to. I went through the weed store yesterday. And it's right next to Barnes and Noble. And I got to the weed store and I got excited on the way on my passport. Fuck. So I had my wife just order it and I get it this week. I'm going to take a look at that. They said it's fucking. Should be interesting. I know Wally Lindsey's in there. Wally by Wally's in there. There's some stories in there. There's no turk turk turk Jordan. Oh turk Jordan's in there. I already still around. No turk Jordan. He's right. He collects. He takes change out of his newspapers. New shapers. Cadillac is always fucking running. I used to have to do, you know, that was my that was another one of my jobs. They said to me would. They said he got it. Wally Lindsey is a new teacher and McKinley. Right. Now they say, John, did you read the new kitchen? I said, not. Didn't meet him. Where is he? He said, not last class. So I walk in. I'm talking with the guy introducing myself who I am. He says, you're the best punch ball player I ever saw and stick ball says, when did you see me do that? Says, I lived across the street from you in Hoboken. He's a Hoboken. Yeah. He is. So he says to me, we got the talking and had a good school year with him. He says, what are you doing this summer? So I said, not that why? I'm trying to get a job from North Burgundy this summer. Now I'm just that's a long time ago. So he says, you want to work for me? He was the mayor. Are we walking? Yeah. He's the mayor. We will. Yeah. Teaching. Right. So he says, mayor, a whole bunk. You want to work for me? You want to work for me this summer? I said, sure. He says, I go to the town hall and we walk and I said, wow, he said everything to me, but one thing, what do I do? He says, you see that guy over there with the wig on? So I said, yeah, he says, you have to be with him every day. Whatever he wants to do, he's had a recreation. He's the head of about four things. He says, just if you come to me and say, you lost 10 votes, you're doing a great job. He loses 10 votes for me every day. You know what he is? We're driving a wee walk. We walk in trouble. Where he used to hang out. Yeah. And that, you know, when you're going up to the East Boulevard, there was that recreation building there on, uh, what was the name of that street path? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what you mean. That was his headquarters. That's where we had all the bodies looking down the Lincoln tunnel. Where the basketball court was, you mentioned before. Yeah. That was his office. So he brought a he told us his hotel room. That was his staff. Listen, he did the craziest things I've ever heard ever ever. He told us in the eighth grade that we had a winning record. He would get us laid eighth grade. And we kept bugging him. Oh, we had a winning record. I got you. Oh, we had a winning. I got you. I used to go like this. If somebody caught him off or somebody you don't want to drive with him. He used to have combination locks underneath this the truth. And if you like caught him off or you didn't let him go, he'd take throw it at the car and get the car or break a window and then argue with the guy. He was right. He was fucking out there, dude. What about when he told he comes to me. He says, you came to me or somebody said, you got to go empty all his machines. News paper machine. He owned everyone. He tried. You put a quarter. Yeah. Yeah. He drives up because here's the car. Take it. First of all, now the car is like this. Right. It's crooked because it would drag all the corners in the trunk. Fuck an amazing thing. It was like this to car and drums. He had 20 in the trunk. They were all full of corners. How are you driving like this? He says, yeah, we don't know yet. I like your content. He brought on. He brought a naked woman to 38 basketball, 38 street courts. The day school ended and he goes, guys, she's in the back. See, I'll know. Forget how he rubbed his hands. Yeah. It was like satanic satanic. He was the original Epstein. This motherfucker was like, girl, guys, she's in the backseat waiting for you. And we all ran over there. We were 28 year old eight great kids. We get back there. It's a woman with a top ripped passed out fake fits. The kids were fucking a salad. She's like, what a drool. And we're like, not this ain't going to work. We got to go home and do homework. He's like, it's the last day of school for Christ's sake. We got to prepare for the 8th. We just checked the woman that was passed out. He took us to a six-a-game and then I have tickets. He says, this guy, let me tell you, he says to me one time, you don't have to work today. Go home. But you got to be here tonight. I said, for what? He was with taking kids and their parents to the Yankee game. So I said, oh, that's nice. I go home and come back. He says, I'm in that first bus with the kids. You're in the second bus with the parents. I said, all right, no problem. Now we drive over to Yankee Stadium. We pull up to the stadium. He says to me, now I'm behind. He said, I seem like this to the guy. He's got the tickets. That guy comes in my, I don't know what you're talking about. The guy said, you got the tickets. He didn't have any tickets. He fussed alone. He says to the cop, they're going to arrest them now. And he says to the cop, you know, listen, I got to make a deal with this guy. The cop lets them go. He talks to the guy. He says, you got all your equipment, the town for the, what was the big thing would have all the way you, they keep their instruments where they keep their all their stuff for the radio city. - Oh, like a warehouse. - In a warehouse and we walk it. He said, "I want the number of the guy that owns that warehouse." Well, we're playing it and waiting. He gets the guy on the phone and he says, "I want all of you to stop out of our warehouse." So he explains what's going on. The guy says, "Put the cop on the thing." He bought all our tickets. So I said, "How could you put me in that position?" Right back there, it's got to take you here. What'd you expect me to do? - Well, I'm out when you guys were going down the shore. I don't know if you could tell this story. You're going down the shore and he pulls over and there was a woman there. He says, "Get in the car." Remember that story? Every 15 minutes, everything. He says that he says to the wall. He says, "Get in the car. We're going down the shore." Every 15 minutes, you'll get a fresh load. There's four of us. You know, it's just probably the-- - This is Kirk Jordan. - And then somebody-- - He embarrassed you. - I mean, you know that guy, you just waved him. I said, "Yeah, Kirk Jordan, what do you do this time?" He said, "He drove backwards six blocks in Hoboken, in reverse." You know the trouble that caused? - What is New Jersey, like streets like this? Cause like the New Jersey in the '80s sounds like a fucking like the Warriors movie. Like, what is it about this place that you'd be-- Like, I've never met anyone who had any of these stories and you guys could spend hours-- - I don't know, you know. If I'm talking about this year-- - If I'm talking about this year, it could start. It gets us to a burger and we do know a burger. - My Hoboken group thing is-- - What do they do to kill each other? - It's crazy, he isn't. - It was all fun. - That these guys will make teachers, that they took us to basketball games with no tickets. And on Christmas day, the Nick Sixers, with two months he promised this. He got tickets the day of, he told them to meet us on a bar by the garden, again, Joe Barone. When the fucking eighth grade, we went with our basketball. That's how fags we were. - Oh yeah, right. - Me, Chuck, Ian, Warty, we're fucking fags. We get there and he's like, I got no tickets. Take out your money. Well, like, what are you talking about? We gave you money. Oh no, that was a while ago, the tickets went down. Like seven bucks. Eight bucks, I didn't give a fuck. He goes, get five hours and put it under these tickets and we'll get you in. - We did it all the time. - But God, you're a fucking, you work for a fucking city. - Down, like what the fuck? - It was a lunatic. - He was a fucking let everyone in and he couldn't find a seat. - It's sold out. - It's sold out. - Go to find a seat. - He's just sitting. - Go to the track with him. We used to go to the track with him. - I can't even imagine. - I can't even fucking. - Go to metal hands. I say, I don't want to go. He say, you got to go. He's just saying, I'm going. You're coming. - And the best part is that you guys were like, the teachers were way better back than like, imagine a mercy teacher was doing this, he would lose your mind. - Our parents had no reason to ask, right? Our parents would not ask and we, - They suspect they didn't. - We had a generation that we would not come home and talk. No, we didn't come home and talk. - I was schooled today, like fucking your mom with an apron on with fucking cookies, you know, nobody did that. You walked in the house, you got a fucking ball of mine I got. - And you ran the fuck out of the house. - That you were never home. - You were never home because God forbid you missed something, right? God forbid you missed something. 'Cause now you get goofed on for not being there. What were you doing? You were too busy with your girlfriend. Oh, fucking, I'll never see that woman again. - Yeah, 'cause this is it. - It was a different world, there was. - 'Cause there was no phones like we got now. You had a goal, you didn't know it was going on. - No. - There was no Twitter. - There was no I. - Something happened. - Nobody was pulling up. You know what I'm saying? We just went. - Yeah, you know what I'm saying? - Your mom didn't know you got left back. - No. - You mad. - That's wild. - That's insane. - That explains the whole thing. - I didn't say a word at all. - Not a word and not want her involved in my day-to-day history whatsoever. Because she didn't know that world. So why would I include her at anything to do with that shit? I gave up after Catholic school. She made a fucking jerk out of me in Catholic school. You know, bursting in people and shit and fucking now. I wasn't going for that. But your parents trusted the system. (laughing) There was no teachers date in a 16-year-old then. - Yeah. - There was no teachers, fucking students. If anything, I used to always grab Ms. Brando's tits in the seventh grade. I love Paddy Brando with all my art, you know? And it was just a different fucking world for kids. I look at my daughter now and I'm sick to my stomach. Not because she's not a good kid, because on Saturdays, if she doesn't have practice or we take it to the mall, yeah, she got a couple little retarded girlfriends, but my daughter is not very good. So she's 13 going on like 16. A little girl don't know what she's talking about. She's got a little bit of advantage, huh? - Sure. - You know, you have to take them into deep waters and time and time. If not, they're gonna be like the rest of these fucking kids. They're, you know, they have nothing going on. - Well, him with this, with the detention in school. One time I had to get something for my house and home depots. I said, come with me, I don't know what I'm doing. You know, he's doing either, but we went to home depot to get this stuff to do whatever I had to do in my house. So we're going up the aisle, he goes, oh man. He's my principal coming to the aisle. What was his name? - Al, something, Al Maytish. - Right, he goes cut over. I said, I said, I said, how are we going to climb to that? - I enjoyed Jetson. - That's a week. - Hey, look like that. - Next week I'm going to see Wally Lindsey. He's coming for the show in Tampa. That's a hard rock to see. So I'm going down that day earlier. We could come to the club and eat with him. - So we were, - That's going to fucking blow your mind. - So I says to him, - That's like having him in stereo. - He's got a whole different farm. A whole bulk of stories. - He got us in trouble, three, four teachers. He set up a basketball game between the teachers and the kids. Now, we played a game where we're sweating our ass off. He says, listen, I got permission. We're going to spa. You could take a shower, take your time. We'll get something to eat and then we'll come back to school. I said, did you get permission to do this? He goes, yeah, I own that principal who was made this. So now we're missing out. We get back. It was 230 from 12 o'clock. We took all that time. We walked in there. They had the superintendent at fish back there waiting for us. He had some period or what to set that up. I figured they, I figured they get mad, but they can't do nothing to me. Me and Mako are like this. He was. - I moved here in 1973. My mom had the bar in Union City way before, in '58. And I went to Catholic school. I went to Sacred Heart and Karnie. They threw me out and I had to go to McKinley. And as soon as I got to McKinley, there was a thing like that October. I don't know if you guys remember when the Metz played the faculty of the North Bergen High School? - Yes, yes, yes. - Turned Matt Wack and a bunch of guys came over. - Yeah. - That was my play to that game. - That was my first experience ever in a North Bergen event. Okay, I told Lee about this. I go to this game. You know, nobody's spoken part of that. Nobody's doing nothing. We're in the fucking sixth grade. Well, on the way out of the auditorium, some guy yelled, "That girl's a whore." There was just some girl standing there talking to another girl. And they go, "That girl, that girl's a whore. She wants to get felt up." And I never saw 50 kids around this woman. And everybody was just grabbing the tits, grabbing her ass. She's crying. And I'm standing there going, well, after I grabbed the pussy and tits too, 'cause I went in there, but when I stepped away, I'm like, "These people are fucking animals." Like I lived in New York City. My godmother was in Harlem on the weekends. This was unacceptable in so many ways. And then we walked home on the boulevard like 80 fucking kids, walked all the way down. People got to stop at Franklin, St. Cecilia, fucking McKinley and Kennedy School. And I was like, "I never had to see anything like that." There was hundreds of kids on that lawn, fucking grabbing that poor girl. I don't, I think she fucking moved to Wayne the next day as some shit, but that's how I knew. Like I was like, "I'm in a different fucking world here." And then I'm going to McKinley. That way just, because if you went to McKinley, that came with calling my boss, Anna. So you knew what was going on there. And you're like, "What, what, why am I even trying?" And this guy could just smack the feature. And I gotta be, you know what I'm saying? Why, you fucking try. Who is sh--? just it was so surreal. And I understand where you're coming from. Lee, you're like, what the fuck? Where were you guys raised, bro? And planet rock. That's where we were raised. Go look at because it's not when, listen, look at this. Before when you came in, Joe Baron, you were talking about the 77 basketball team. The tallest guy was six, but six. Yeah, have a check. And he was no fucking Moses Malone. No. But they squeezed out one of the states, not a year later, the Bruins one, the states and the metal ends. That was how to check. Well, no, football, football, football. And I don't know if you get, look at the size of those kids and who they had to play in Snyder. I'll never forget. And they had to play against Walker Lee, Ashley, who fucking one of Monday night football game for Minneapolis. We covered a fun board. I was a linebacker. Big mother, fucker, big mother, fucker and North bergamot. He's five foot nine Italian midgets. Composy. Yeah. Sentences never been so tough. And in him, that was tough. Five eight, five nine Italian midgets, built out of fucking brick. And what he got. And me balls and Italian bread and New Jersey pollution. What a runner. What a, and that's what I knew. There's something going on here that is not the best of some. And then, you know, us fucking having some of jobs where you had a duck when the cop drove by, you know, that, that's an hurdle. Who has to duck when cops go by? I forgot to drop the soft was like, listen, you're going to do this landscaping job on 46. We feel, 46. We feel that like, you know, you put plants in like those houses with a terrible part. They were doing it with no permit. And they were paying us like 450 an hour. That was like gold 1978. Like you had all those jobs. Like people just come to you. I know who they were. I'm not going to say I'm on the fucking thing. But they come to you want to sum a job? Just go down here a couple of days a week. What about the other days? Do what you want? Like it was, you were living in the surreal. And it snows. And then next thing you know, you're on a hill going this way behind the police station. You know, fucking, it was just a fairy tale. And then McKinley forget it. Fucking forget it from the sixth. I did the sixth grade, two stints in the seventh grade and the eighth grade. I was there for four years. Every one of those fucking years was insane from the teacher getting beat up to having a teacher. That's a mayor that gets arrested for fucking murder. Fuck. I mean, you know, this happens to everybody. He was, he was, what was he doing with chickens? Oh, nothing good. Oh, was he doing with chicken factory? He calls, he calls me one day. You want to be a chicken doctor? You know, what the folks say, Barone said he wants to, he wants to go with you with the chicken factory. He was trying to get a chicken factory and and steal it from this guy. Oh, guy owned it. He said, we'll get it for nothing. You'll be my partner. All right. And then he went to, he was going to jail for that. Hey, he asked me one time. He says, you know, anything about chickens? You want to say everything doctor FBI came to be saying, I'm a pharmacist for people. I'm not a pharmacist for chicken. Where's the other guy? He was with. They didn't scream on me. The teachers watched them scream on me. Who's the other teacher that wins the, this guy was with. And I said, I'm fucking dead. And they didn't know. Oh, we don't know. We don't deal with him. He stepped for it then us. Why can't you make it a big name? But I was used to tell him I want to do this. I want to do that. No, you know, you want to hold a chicken factory. We'll make billions. What do we know about chickens? Nothing. Nothing. That was when Frank Purdue was like his prime. He was in his prime. Fucking crazy. We had those crazy as teachers and shit. But nobody, you know, everybody was on the up and up at least. It doesn't sound like we're even the up and up. We considered it. He was probably 84 crimes a person. I've never, dude, killed at her. It sounds like they might have. Oh my god. I want to write a book about Hudson County. Yeah. How about you? I'll probably get shot. Yeah, you'll get your stuff that I know. You can't. It's just, I've had that idea now for about five years. I'm going to I hope I hurt myself or I can't walk and then you make it and I'll write it and I'll write it and you it'll be all stuff like we talked about. A whole thing. And I'm not talking one town. I'm talking about whole bokeh. I'm talking about West New York. I'm also talking about Jersey City. And people don't know about Jersey City, but I do. They're going to have to put you in like a different state. Yeah. Yeah. That's the York movie of Pennsylvania. What about West New York? We finally had the store. My father's the next con, you know. That's why I got along with him. So the people that knew me really knew me. You should tell their kids his father's mafia. You're for your father had the fruit fit. Yeah. Yeah. I remember. He's a good guy. I want to take a couple of times. Yeah. He was bookmaking in the back. He was in the basement with three phones. Ladies, ladies to come in the store. She said, Joe, Jesus, the oranges are four for a doll. He said, take nine of them. What do I can't do? The other day, he was worried about the book and he was worried about oranges about three. He was booking and then the guy that had the hot dogs said on Sunday was booking. That was right right there. Well, we got by on the side. Had it to county Boulevard. That van was there every day. He sold two hot dogs a day. Two. He said, give me three. I have to take three home. Give me two to eat here and three in a bag. So he does it. He gives me a bag. I'm walking to my car and he starts. I hear him screaming. What? He had all his, he had a customer. He wrote all the numbers that the guy was playing on his bag. He said, ah, if that one of them would have hit us, the thanks. Last week I had the pleasure of visiting Union City, our friend Lucio. Yeah, friend of the show is one of the commissioners. He said one of the captains was a fan instead of podcast. So I went down there. Now I drove around. It's 38th in park. So I kept driving around. You know, I couldn't, I couldn't hit the right street, but as I'm driving, I'm getting fucking goosebumps because that was the neighborhood right around the corner from that fucking police station. When I was a kid was the bank. It was right there. A little bar that was there. The Cuban bank. And if you went up two miles, that was Beltram's father. Felix, Felix, he's still there. There are no, I don't think he's taking numbers, but that whole circuit tree, they call that street, 38th street is Quattina way. That was the Cuban doctor. Lefty Quattina also went to Notberg and talk about, I'm going to hit you with a name from the past that I bumped into his brother. That was also a good basketball player. And it's all right. Brian Smite. Oh my god. Brian, you fucking remember lefty. You taught, you taught his kid his brother, Maddie. Maddie, the head coached him. I think. Yeah. They don't fuck them on JV. Yeah. Yeah. You walk into a theater. That's what you're going to see. I'm off Bergen kids. They're all the stage hands. That generation, they all became stage hands. They make man brothers, the Smites, a bunch of Irish men. It wasn't a bad player. Yeah. No, he was a good player. I remember that's the guy who took me to Hudson County Park and Bernard King. Yes. Yes. He used to live in a round. He used to live in a round house. Galaxy. Galaxy, I think. Yeah. And he would go up there. We would hide in the bushes so about one in the morning and Bernard King would come up. That this all fucking North Park that you sit there and go, what the fuck? So he ran, I finally parked. He goes, come down on that one block and you could park there. And when I parked, I just remember pulling the car up and turning it off and just going, wow, what a fuck. I'm like, I looked and I go, holy shit. And then he goes, he goes, everything, okay. I go, yeah, yeah. And he's a captain of police. I go, we used to buy guns and bazookas when I was a kid in that house. He goes, what are you talking about? There was an Italian girl from North Bergen and her boyfriend was Columbia and he sold everything in that house. He sold everything. Bazookas, guns, bullets, coke, heroin, gold chains. It was a fucking nightmare. And I don't even want to tell you who took me there. I will not tell you who dropped me off there one night. He's like, I know where I'm going to drop you off. I'll pick you up in an hour and they drop me off there. And I'm smoking pot with the chick and she's got a body suit on. 1984. She had a leopard body suit, but the pussy was cut out. You could see a little pubic hairs coming out. And I'm smoking pot with a trying to focus. I'm not going to the pubies and then she goes. She bring out coke. And she go, he could do this. I'm going to go to the bedroom and freshen up. She would come out 20 minutes later. Still looking all fucked up. She'd come out and do coke, give me more. I realized she had a guy back there. She was fucked. She was a hooker, too. I mean, this was fucking those bars in Union City, though. They played baseball on a Sunday, 10 grand a game. That's how Stevie Baume messed his. His father's grocery store was there was one in Broadway. And there was one in on block Avenue, 60th Street, West New York. You know, where you go down another pools there. But his store could have been a big hit on it as a television camp out like the honeymoon is. It was better than the honeymoon is a lady would come in. And he wanted to be bothered with ladies, the world oranges. He's worried about fucking the money he lost last night. Like she would say, Joe, you got any conquats? He goes, take a fucking walk. Hey, Uncle Joey here. Listen, life is stressful for everyone that right now. But you can take a break within the cloud. End the cloud is your fully legal online dispensary. Check out their gummies, vapes, pre-rolls and edibles. Skip the hangovers and keep your resolutions with end the clouds. 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So now she's, no, my father runs, he's hiding in the back of the store, the lady's going, Joe, Joe, Joe, I got stung by a bee. So my father comes out goes, Holy shit, you did, you know, that was big grapes. He had something to funny to say to every customer come and say, Joe, can I have six slices of the morning, he said, oh, you're having company? Give me one pepper and one, I have a party, he says, I'm not even going to walk to the register, just take them. I don't know where to walk to the register, it was, oh, William. Then there was the other, then there was a fat book maker, Ernie, you remember him? Fat. Not very good all the way up like towards Ernie was a fat guy, he's calm, shaker, 500 pounds and he made lemonade, but he made the lemons from scratch. He would cut the lemon, squeeze them with sugar and a little club soda. That's what the difference was with his like, so when you went up there, you were like, all right, let me get six lemon, and you can see a look on his face, he's got his stubby little hands, and he looked like a bomb maker, he had fingers from cut in his fingers, from making the lemons. And then when he shake him, like he wiggled, you know what I'm saying, like he, and we go shaker. And he goes, my name is Ernie, but you know, I think that is that hot dog place to live who I'm going to stand in Union City by the park. You know where I'm talking about? I know where you go down. I don't think he's there. You know, he's there. The one on 30th street is still there. That motherfucker is still there. That's up the block from my mother's, right? He went from Bergen line to the other corner, now he does bean chase, the stick with the kabab on it. Fucking. You know, he goes through the transfer station, you come out and there's a park there. What's the name of that park over there? He used to take that hot dog place all the time. He in fact, he was coming up from home, and then what's that street? What's that? He always, he was always right by the entrance to the city. The one you're talking about 30th street dead, up top of the windows, oh, okay. Is that guy had good dogs, though? Plus you know, plus I used to get them for nothing because they always owe daddy money. You collect on your dad's, that's the hot dog place, give me the dogs. I wish you guys could spend a day with him with us. It was in that store, okay, you know, I caught the talent that I mentally don't like what you guys, the pheno who was the mayor of West New York, the big guy was my father's lawyer. So now when he becomes mayor, he goes to my father's store and he says, Joe, I want half of what you're making, and you could still do this. If not, you gotta stop, just ain't no, everybody knows where friends, I'm your lawyer. So my father's gonna get the fuck out of here. And he made the kid that delivered for him, piss on one of his pizzas. He used to take a whole pizza, fold it in half, and eat it like that. And he ate the whole thing. He was five. So my father says he had to go to daddy, he has five. How long is that in jail? Which time? What? Which time? That's amazing. The pheno went to somebody died one time in Hudson County, like a politician, and I remember we were the ushers and veneries. And the pheno came, we had a carrier's chair, he brought his own chair. Oh yeah. And my father's own chair, like a throne and shit. I have no problem with him eating an entire pizza, but the fact that he had to fold it because he didn't want to waste time, even two slices of ones. And you didn't cut it. What? You know, when you go with that dish, I know how you cut things, you'll leave it alone. So we could fold it. Oh my God. You just eat the pizza whole thing, and then he just have the ends in his hands. And he says, we'll get loose if you eat it all the way up to the whole pizza that got peed on. Cool. Did he eat the pizza you guys peed on? Oh, every crumb that we've got just the end was left until he was five, ate that like a slice. He was still doing a pizza. Marco hit him with a camera and a fucking head. He was in Northburg and taking pictures with another guy. And Marco's were in, and Joe and Marco were taking stuff out of mailboxes. And Joe and Marco says, who's that over there? That's the phenol. He crosses the street. He takes the camera that he had and he cracks it over his head and you see him on the floor bleeding. He said, I'll get you. This will be in every newspaper. I don't know how he got out of that. And then I bought every paper and it was the next day, it wasn't it must have had something on it. It was a crook. That was a different world, man. There's no proof. There's no video anywhere. Didn't put anything of the paper. No, you know, it's fucking craziness. What a different world. We came. What a different fucking world when he was the disciplinary in the end. I always run into guys that know him one day and just thought of this. I run into this guy. He says, your brother, he was the best. I said, why? He said, one day I was talking to a guy next to me and he says, you guys like each other so much? Hold hands. He made them hold hands for the whole eight hours of the. You like each other so much? Hold hands. You do that today. You get sued. You used to say some while I could I could have got wild about four times while there wasn't a bad thing. But you can't do that. But what's the difference of the kid then that ran home and told his mother and took defense? Well, again, what was the difference between us being 13 and or 12 and these kids today that they run right on? You know, God forbid, listen, I shouldn't have said this before. It's true. I mean, I never heard of nothing crazy in North Pergon. But I'm sure in all the eight schools, there was a teacher sucking with tremendous dick. Whether it's Harris man, Robert Fulton, that would be a teacher sucking dick. This is North Pergon. You never heard about it, why? 'cause no kid went home and told his father that some teachers suckin' my dick, let's call 9-1-1, you know what I'm saying? I mean, that is a joky thing, but think about what I'm comin' with here. We didn't go home, that's what I'm sayin' for you. We didn't go home and tell everything to our parents. - Those kids didn't go home say we had a whole hands for eight hours. - Yeah, they didn't go home and tell their dad we had a whole hands for eight hours. - But not because you lived in that section. For me, the kids that came from the school around the school, they were the best kids. They were the best kids in Upper Erden, 'cause when I got to the high school, then I saw the different groups, different schools. Yours was the best, the kids were the best. You know what happened one time? I never got in trouble with the principal or any time I never had a goal into the office and you knew the superintendent was gonna come to talk to me. So they said, "John, fishbacks comin' over. "You gotta, he has to talk to you, he's pissed off." So I said, "For what?" I didn't know what he was talkin' about. We goin' in Tanero's office and there's a girl sittin' there. And I don't even remember her being in my class, but she's told her father that I pulled her hair, okay? So now, Fishback dressed to him, where's your father to the girl? She went to the bathroom. Now the kid comes in and when she told everybody what I did, now it was my turn. I said, "My turn, nothing," I said. I didn't do anything to this girl. I don't know what she's talkin' about. Now a father walks in. Don't you know, I don't know his name, but he's a McKinley kid that I had. He goes, "Wait a minute." He didn't even, he said, "Wait a minute." Mr. Barone, I said, "Yeah." He says to the, "She's a fuckin' liar." (laughing) She's a fuckin' liar 'cause I know this guy. He was my teacher and he wouldn't lie. I was like, "I couldn't sleep that night. "That's how happy I was." - That was a goal. - I'd never heard that. - I don't even remember this kid. He grew up. He was the guy he made a whole hands for eight hours. - Now, remember when you first got to McKinley, we had a problem in North Pergam. Joe, you're gonna remember this fontana. We had two of them. One was a baseball coach. And one was a track guy. - Yeah, a fraud-tiner, I didn't know. - He had him in McKinley. He was a track coach. - Really? - And McKinley. - Now which one, the baseball? - We're talkin' about the baseball coach. - Yeah, I know him. - I wasn't the seventh grade. Do you remember they were-- - Wasn't the greatest guy. - No, it was a piece of shit. And one of the reasons why he got a beaten was because they were on a bus. They told two Spanish kids, not to speak Spanish. - Oh. - And they said, "You speak Spanish. "You get them throwing you off a bus like in fucking Newark." And he threw the two kids off the bus in Newark. That didn't work out for him at all. Like that just did not work out for him. - No. - I think one of the parents called the school and the other guy just went up there and threw a beaten on him. They would just let you go when a parent threw a beaten on you. I think, 'cause I wouldn't see those guys anymore. - You know, those field trips, I never forget that day. I always feel surprised when I guess out. I'm gonna get fired, something I didn't do. I don't even know what this girl's talkin' about. And he walks in and says that. I was, I still remember it like it was yesterday. - The field trips were great because they said, "Everybody goes to show you how many people are innocent "and they get buried like that." - About the field trip. We said, "Go." And then everybody had to be back on a bus by a certain time. So we started out with 35 kids on a bus. So bus driver goes, "How many of you guys?" She says, "18." That's how many kids were missing. We went to the zoo. - That happened with his group. - We went to the zoo. - Yeah, we went to the bad mountain. We went to bad mountains and there's two buses. I got one bus and the teachers got the other bus. I said, "You ready? "I'm all here." So she says, "I ain't even count mine." Now, how many people are on a bus? 44 or something? I said, "She comes out and she goes, "John, 30 are missing." - Yeah, I was like, "They're up." Now, we look at the mountain. You can see this one big mountain. And if fucking waving, you're climbing on the trees. It was unbelievable. - That was it. - That was it. - That was normal. - You could feel Christachia. - I'll tie you. - You were talking about Mr. Mustache before. Mr. Maytache, Mustache. And he had the George Jetson headdo. - George Jetson. - George Jetson headdo. - George Jetson. - And he ate grain. - I gave him that name, the whole school. - Yeah, he gave him George Jetson headdo. - Remember, he said, "I wish I can know "who gave me this name." - You said to me, "I'm done." - He told me, he lived on the next block for me. - He was a sweet other guy. - Don't sure enough, I slipped one day and I say Jetson. Hey, Jetson's here. He heard me, he heard me. He says, "You just said that to annoy me. "They're driving me crazy in school with that. "If I ever found out who gave it to me." - I gave it to him. - They made a movie. He's definitely would have been George Jetson. - Small, short. - You know what he died? - Spaceship. - He's on the next block and I had to do something for him. And I think he's my principal. I did it. Something would, oh, he's going down the shore. Can I bring his garbage cans out? So I did it. That night, it snows like crazy. Like the one we just had. He never comes home. He never comes back. Those two garbage cans are standing in front of his eye and said, "Well, no, what happened?" I get dressed, I go to school here, what happened? "No, what happened?" Mateesh is dead. I said, "How did that happen?" He was shuffling and they found them frozen, holding the shovel. - Holy Christmas. - He took a hot attack while he was shuffling. - And it happens, the leading cause. - It snows so much like we had. His body, they had a picture of it. Cancer's won, shovels in his mouth. But he was a terrible, thank God. - He was on duty when Carmine beat up Mr. Tatarah. I don't know if we get to look on his face, but the best was he warned us to not, because there's a rumor going around that you guys are going to feel dead. In the eighth grade, he goes, "Coco, please don't go. Just don't go up there, mind your business." Fuck you, we're going to feel dead. We're playing like big time basketball in those courts and he fucking came from the hill. He just stood there watching us and I remember I saw him and I'm like, I'm in trouble anyway. Let's finish the game. On which, he's like, "When are you gonna step over here?" Come on, we're going, man. He drove us back to McKinley. I think it was me, Louie and Anders. He drove a couple, and we got suspended for maybe an hour. - And then to think about Maytish, that's unbelievable is, when I, a month or a year passed and somebody says to me, "You hear about Maytish?" I said, "No, what happened?" I know he died, he froze, well, that's you. He said, "No, no, no, he worked for the CIA." And he was a, he was a priest for four years, before he became, he went to school and made a teacher. - A good, interesting guy. - He was. - So it makes sense. - I'm playing table tennis. They had the teacher had a table tennis in the gym. You did play it at lunchtime. So Maytish, I'm playing him and Kingwell walks in. He says, "You're getting tired, right?" I go, "No, I'm enjoying this. Just give it to me, I want to get him." 'Cause he used to bust Kingwell's walls. So now, I said, "What do you mean you want to get him?" He says, "I'm gonna fucking put holes in his head when I play, I'm good at this." So sure enough, God fucking punished him because the opposite happens. This fucking guy, they're hitting him in a face, Kingwell. One almost went in his mouth and after I get done, I said, "Mr. Maytish, can I talk to you for a minute?" He goes, "Yeah," I said, "I'm shocked." 'Cause Kingwell was a decent athlete when he was in school. I said, "How did you beat him like that?" That's all you do when you're a priest on your spare time. You play table tennis, he got great at it. He was slamming it at him. - Fuck, man, I didn't know that. - Well, Mr. Maytish. - Well, Mr. Maytish, died out there frozen with that, when the McKinley school shared on it. I'm saying, "What a bastard." What do you got going on, Mr. Brown? - What's that? - What do you guys, are you still involved with different basketball things? - You know, I'm with the kids and my granddaughter's on the girls team. - Kickin' ass, right? - And they lost today, they got knocked out of the playoffs. But I wish I could say something, but I can't. - Okay. - That's your focus though now, the ring. - Mr. Baron, we are still being recorded. - Worst coach ever. - Okay. - I think that up, did they? - Joe, what are you up to these days? - Yeah. - The pharmacy's done. I went from there to corporate merc Medco and should have did that from the start. You know, 401k, call out whatever you want. I was working seven days a week like it. - That's another sitcom when he had this. - The pharmacy. - When he had to block. - Yeah, that's a sitcom. - That's three more episodes of this. - He's got boys that work for him. And I said, and I'm helping out in the store, I took care of the register. So I said, Joe, you wait anywhere and he's fucking guys, 45 minutes. They only had to go two blocks. The kid comes back, he got a haircut. - The kid comes in. - For years though, you know, I worked in Charles Pharmacy. - In New York. - You know, down from the Kenley, right across from Collins, Dina. There was a pharmacy there at Charles Pharmacy. For years I worked in there. There's another sitcom. - After Hoboken. - After Hoboken. - After Hoboken. - After. - You talked to anybody from your, nobody. - You know that thing. - I was talking to you, I thought about something. Frank a little bit. Frank a little bit. - Frank I shone. - What was the Italian singer? Jimmy Roselli. - You ever hear of Jimmy Roselli? - Hoboken. - I'm working the register in the store. And he's doing what he's got to do. And Jimmy Roselli, I know him. He's Italian. He has a thing with Frank Sinatra. - Right, that's why he couldn't. - That's a Sinatra black boy. - Right, because he wouldn't sing for his mother. - And he's Italian. - Frank put the fucking clothes to trunk. You're embarrassing us. - Roselli sold him out into the shop. - But if you're from Hoboken, you know who Jimmy Roselli is. - It's Sinatra's mother. Love the way he sang the dialect in the Apollot in dialect. And he said, Sinatra isn't to sing at her birthday. He said no. - Without Joe. - That was it. - He's working. - I said, what's going on? - To myself. - I say, Jimmy Roselli looks like Jimmy Roselli. - So he goes, gives Joey the pill thing. - Hurry up, one of the things he says. - He goes, hurry up, I'll be waiting outside. So I'm waiting, I think he's just been a bad mood. Jimmy Roselli walks in. He says, he got my, he goes, no, I didn't do it yet. He don't know who Jimmy Roselli is. - Oh, this guy is. - So now. - And he gets fresh, hey kid. And he was a mean fuck. He says, hey kid, don't you know who I am? So I'm going like this to Joey. He don't know what I, he ain't taking it up. So sure enough, I didn't want to lose him as a customer. So he says, hey kid, I'm the famous Jimmy Roselli. - The singer. - You don't know that? He looks at him, he says, I'll tell you what I'm going to do for you. You sing me a song, and I'll do your prescription. He throws things, you say I'm made this guy. - He made $400 worth it, breaking things. I thought he was going to have, I thought he was going to have a stroke. - He said, Joey, that's fucking good. - His wig was like crooked. You should've seen the condition, this guy went in. - He went, he took a fit. - Yes. - He didn't know him. I said, tell you what? - Tell you what, you make me, you sing a song, and I'll do your prescription. - I didn't sing, I didn't sing for Sinatra. He went to a whole thing. I said, holy, what happened here? How did this go sideways? His fault. What he left, I said, fucking Joey, that's Jimmy Roselli. How do you not know who the, I don't know shit about this guy. - Give me two pay, I said. - So you're going to make a moot, Travolta. - Yeah. - Can I play him? - Yeah. - I was auditioning me in Billy Gardell. At the end, he pulled it out for a fucking cosmetology move. What's those movies, you're a Scientologist, I'm a Scientologist. - You don't love the thing. - You don't love what anybody says is dying. - So Roselli? - No, south of No Burgundy. - He loved who? - He lived in, he loved Jimmy Roselli more. He saw him every, every other month, wherever he sang, singing. - He was like, "So, and he said he alive." We became big friends after that. - I'm gonna wrap it up here, Mr. Roselli. - You know why? - Right. - And have card games up there. I heard he had card games up in that house, Roselli. Big time card games. - Joe, so, I'm gonna wrap this up. Hey, you know what I saw in Colorado? Oh, Chris Marano. - Oh yeah, real quick. My son went to UMass. Chris is a teacher at UMass. - Wow. - Teachers that like, you know, plants, natural healing. You know. - He was always a hitter, ate a clove of garlic. - Yeah, he was with him. - Instead of taking your blood pressure pill, you know, we were opposites. You know, I was, I was medication. He was, you know, eat this or that, play it. - Yeah. - I remember he went to me, George Berkel. I was a George when we went. - I haven't seen George or her for many years. - He started with Danny in a back court. He was better than him. - That's all right. - He was better than him. - Well, I'm happy. - That's right. - I like your fucking sneakers, Mr. Boron. - Oh, I can't say no. - Yeah. - Those are good sneakers. All right. Thank you for coming on, Mr. Boron. I appreciate it. - I enjoy it. - The people's gonna love it. Joe Boron. - I enjoy it. - Thank you so much. - Thanks for what he fucking used. - Thanks, thanks for it. I saw you at one of your shows, remember? - That's right, yeah. - I came to the, I came to make the last one. I was, I got five grandchildren too now. How many kids? - Two. - That's all you need. Lee, how you doing, cock sucker? - I'm doing great, buddy. I wanna be at the Saratoga Comedy Works this weekend in the 20th, 21st. - Bless you. - Nobody even fucking has shit. (laughing) No, I'm happy at the start. I got nothing this week. I got nothing until the fifth in Tampa and the 16th and 14th in Fox Woods. Fox Woods, 'cause you know. - Nice. - And that's it. That's all we got this week. Yeah, we got a burden debt. I wanna wish Darryl happy birthday. It was Ralphie Mayer. Happy, that's that. Oh, it's his birthday. Fuck yeah, 63. God bless you. - This game's a fuck. We're just lucky. We're from the other program, baby. We got that pollution in our lungs. I'll see you, Savage's next week. Same bad time. Same bad channel. (upbeat music) (upbeat music)

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The speaker praises the ABA documentary *Soul Power* for exposing the NBA's lack of excitement and highlighting the league's creative, energetic alternative.
  2. He recalls his own experience being drafted by the Miami Floridians in the ABA, where he was given Flintstone-style shirts and faced a stark contrast between the ABA’s culture and the NBA’s corporate, stagnant approach.
  3. The ABA reportedly paid minimal salaries—like Mac Calvin being drafted for $15,000 with a $3,000 bonus—yet featured star players who were celebrated and respected.
  4. Free throw accuracy is emphasized as a crucial, often overlooked skill in basketball, with the speaker noting his personal record of 97% over 246 attempts and lamenting how modern NBA players struggle with consistency.
  5. The speaker reflects on how teaching and school culture have deteriorated, with younger teachers lacking emotional connection and students now disconnected from their educators.
  6. He contrasts his generation’s close-knit, emotionally bonded school experiences with today’s isolated, tech-driven environment where students don’t share personal struggles.
  7. A vivid anecdote describes a chaotic, rule-breaking era in Hudson County, including teachers and mayors involved in bizarre, even criminal, behavior, showing how school life was once wild and unregulated.
  8. The speaker expresses a desire to write a book documenting the authentic, gritty history of Hudson County, highlighting its unique characters, community, and unconventional past.

Summary:

The speaker shares a passionate reflection on the vibrant, unfiltered world of sports, school, and community in his youth, centered around the ABA’s legacy and its contrast with the NBA. He recounts his own journey into basketball, recalling the raw excitement and cultural importance of the ABA, where players like Julius Irving and Mac Calvin were celebrated despite minimal pay. He highlights the unorthodox, almost surreal nature of school life in the 1970s—where teachers were bold, students bonded deeply, and personal relationships were central to daily life.

He contrasts this with today’s education system, where emotional connections are absent, students remain disconnected, and teachers struggle to build trust. The narrative includes vivid anecdotes of school field trips, teacher misconduct, and neighborhood culture in Hudson County, where figures like Wally Lindsey and the speaker’s father operated with wild, chaotic energy. These stories underscore a lost era of authenticity and connection.

The speaker ends by expressing a desire to document this forgotten world in a book, emphasizing that the real spirit of community, risk, and personal growth was once woven into everyday experiences in places like North Bergen and Hudson County—something he feels is now missing in modern life.

FAQs

Soul Power is an eight-part documentary series about the American Basketball Association (ABA). It highlights how the ABA offered more exciting, dynamic basketball compared to the NBA, which was seen as boring by fans and players alike.

Mr. Barone noted that the NBA was seen as dull, with players like Alameyverson doing flashy moves, while the ABA introduced more exciting and innovative styles of play, which eventually led the NBA to adopt these elements.

Mr. Barone was drafted by the Miami Floridians in the ABA and recalled a first practice where he received a box of Flintstones shirts, which he found odd and humorous, showing the contrast between the ABA's culture and the NBA's more formal approach.

Mr. Barone had an exceptional free throw record, making 246 out of 250 attempts with a 97% success rate, and he emphasized that the art of free throwing is a unique skill that many modern players struggle with.

Mr. Barone believes teaching has changed significantly, with modern teachers lacking the emotional connection and personal engagement that existed in the past, where students and teachers formed deep bonds and shared personal experiences.

In the past, students had fewer distractions and more direct, meaningful interactions with teachers, often sharing personal struggles and emotions, while today's students are less likely to talk about their experiences or feelings due to a lack of trust and connection.

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