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Joe Rogan Slams Trump Voters

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Joe Rogan Slams Trump Voters

A new setting mist from Mavily New York introduces a gel-to-mist formula that locks in makeup for up to 24 hours with a non-sticky, dewy finish. This product is highlighted as a trendy beauty innovation. Simultaneously, political dynamics are shifting dramatically in the U.S. midterms, with rising discontent among Republicans toward Donald Trump. His approval ratings have dropped sharply, particularly in key demographics and farm-heavy states, where the Iran war has driven up fuel and diesel prices, alienating rural voters. This has prompted a significant backlash from Republican leaders, including Representative Maria Elvira Salazar of Florida, who broke from Trump in a controversial ad. Other Republicans are avoiding direct ties to Trump in campaigns, with pollsters advising candidates not to mention him. In the public sphere, figures like Tucker Carlson and Joe Rogan have distanced themselves from Trump, adding to the perception of a growing internal party fracture. Additionally, the controversy around political influencer Hassan Piker—whose comments comparing U.S. terrorism to Al-Qaeda sparked outrage—has intensified political attacks on Democrats and raised concerns about media manipulation. Meanwhile, a hacking group exposed how Flock cameras operate, revealing they collect over 1.6 million images of vehicles and people, store data locally, and transmit it to servers for analysis, often misidentifying license plates and people, despite claims from Flock that they don’t conduct facial recognition. The group found encrypted data and system flaws, undermining Flock’s security claims. The incident highlights public concern over surveillance and privacy. On the economic front, the Fed raised interest rates, prompting Trump criticism, while financial experts stress that inflation remains a core concern. Finally, a legal dispute involving Ditty over unpaid legal fees reveals tensions in high-stakes defamation cases. These interconnected events underscore a political and cultural erosion of trust in leadership, surveillance, and financial policy—signaling a pivotal moment in American governance where public dissent is reshaping the political landscape.

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As the Trumps vote finally broken, or the rats fleeing the ship or the common and grifters looking for a life ref, that it appears that the shift that we were starting to see earlier this year is getting heavier and heavier. Like with everything else, Trump has been making the midterms all about him, and we've also been seeing just implosions across the Republican Party. And while usually to a certain degree, the midterms are seen as a referendum on the president. It appears especially true with Trump here and when you have a party that also controls both chambers of Congress. And while that might not historically be an issue for candidates that are in parts of the country where they're just all in on Trump, one, turns out that's not universal. And two, it is a major liability for candidates that are running in the swing districts and states that are going to determine control of Congress. And so one of the things you're seeing now is this growing number of Republicans who were trying to distance themselves from Trump. Right just this morning, you had Representative Maria, Elvira, Salazar, or Florida running this absolutely wild ad breaking from Trump. That's the president. Some of your immigration enforcement efforts have gone too far. In July 50% of the 50,000 people that were detained had no criminal record. Be careful what your advisors are telling you about immigration policy. The same Hispanics who help you get to the White House in 2024 feel be treated today. And so one, that's a standout ad on its own, two, and this is huge. She represents Florida's 27th Congressional District, which actually put up her Trump by nearly 15 points in 2024. So I will also say her district is very interesting because in 2020, it went for Biden and it's nearly three quarters Hispanic. And so Salazar's break, it could be a strong indicator that one, even the swing district voters who elected Trump by just huge margins and now turned on him, and two, the Hispanic voters who were very essential to Trump's 2024 win, they're sowing on him even more than we may have realized. But of course, as Salazar is not the only Republican who's broken or distant themselves from Trump recently. For earlier this month, you had political reporting quote, "many Republicans facing tough elections, even in areas that the president carried by double digits in 2024, are wary of tying themselves too closely to Trump as his approval rating continues to drag." And you also have them reporting that multiple battleground candidates have explicitly told Trump's team they do not want him to visit their districts before the midterms. And that's as top Republican pollsters have actively advised some vulnerable incumbents and candidates not to even talk about Trump on the campaign trailer, at least limit direct references to him. Beyond that, you had journalists identifying at least around a dozen Republican Congress members and competitive races who have quietly removed or downplayed references to Trump on their campaign websites. And you had a widely reported that numerous battleground Republicans skipped Trump's first ever midterm convention with Axu's reporting that only around 100 lawmakers and candidates were expected to attend. Also, just this week, you saw seven House Republicans defecting and joining Democrats and voting to stop Trump from continuing the war in Iran, or which was huge. Most of those members are facing tough re-election bids. And a big thing there is that two of the members who bucked their party, they're both locked in these tight races in Iowa, which has been hit particularly bad by Trump's pointless war. Right, Iowa, they're a major ag stay. And the war, it's caused the price of key agricultural inputs like gas, diesel, and fertilizer to skyrocket. And a lot of people, including these people, they're getting ruined by these diesel prices, just those alone. It's gotten so bad and even had Fox News run in the numbers. And now you've got these rising concerns that Trump's going to alienate farmers, which is another key part of the base that got them elected in both terms. So the trend to Republicans running away, distancing themselves from Trump, it's a huge deal. Or even if their actions aren't as loud as Salazar's, though really quick side note, do not believe Salazar. Everyone knew that all this shit, this craziness was all going to happen. And there's in your face video of her pushing Trump's bill to provide $75 billion to ICE, right before she voted yes on that legislation. And we have to fund ICE and a DHS, ICE, and for the patrol. So understand she welcomed in this stuff that she's now trying to separate from. But still, even if their actions aren't as loud now as Salazar's, it still underscores the same point. What used to be a strong R is now a lean R, lean R's are now toss-ups, toss-ups seem to be going to the Dems. And there's a belief that Trump is so unpopular with at least the larger Republican base you gotta get away from him. Instead of pandering to the die hard Trumpers. And a big key thing here is it's not just political leaders, right? In the world of pop culture and just culture in general, you've been seeing some of the most prominent voices in conservative media distancing themselves from Trump and his most hardcore supporters. Tucker Carlson of course, definitely one of the most notable that comes to mind, he really split from Trump over the Iran war, repeatedly accusing him of betraying the MAGA movement and even apologizing for leading his audience into supporting Trump. And now, he even have Joe Rogan chiming in in a new way. Because yes, he's been increasingly critical of the president that he's been credited with helping elect. And also, he closed and opened your eyes for one second, and then he's in the Oval Office being buddy buddy and chummy with him. So I've always taken note of it, but also I haven't given it too much weight. But something that really stood out is that in this most recent episode of his podcast, he tore into the people who still support Trump. His supporters are nuts, man, they're rabid. He represents something other than just a person to them. Oh, it's Christ. Yeah. Well, he represents something, some a leader that they wish they had, you know, which is a real problem our society in general with leaders. We look to them as if there's something different than every other person that's ever been a leader before. Like, this is the one, this is the one that's going to save us. It's the Rogan pivot, it's hit a different level now. And while I will say this is important, do not go and give Joe Rogan credit, right? The people who are now distancing themselves, especially the public figures, right? They're not making some world shattering heroic leap of faith. Rest of us knew that the last two years was going to fucking happen. They were saying that it was and then people were calling you crazy for saying that. And now the writing's been on the fucking wall. But Trump's favorability has been plummeting for months now. His approval rating, it slipped as low as 33% across major national polls and he's losing support with key demographics that helped him get reelected like rural voters, young folks, and Hispanics. And his approval rating is also tanked in America's largest farm states as diesel prices have surged thanks to the Iran War. And you've got the Republican establishment terrified, right? It's gotten so bad. The Republicans are pouring tons of resources and millions of dollars into Ruby Red's Senate and House races and states and districts that Trump won by huge margins in 2024. And the thing is they're not stupid to do this poll after poll has shown that Democrats are leading their Republican counterparts in key races that are going to decide control about the House and Senate. Right here in my home state of Georgia, you got polls across the board showing John Asaf up by big margins. So you still have Democrats concerned because in the governor's race, Keisha Lance bottoms is trailing Ray Jackson. Also in much closer Senate races, James Tolerico's slightly ahead of Kampakston in Texas. Abdul Al-Seat, he's just narrowly leading Mike Rogers over in Michigan. Also in North Carolina, one recent survey found Roy Cooper polling 15 points ahead of his Republican challenger in the race to fill the Senate seat that's been vacated by a Republican. And well, of course, I always say polls or polls, anything can happen. I don't give them all my faith, a lot of faith. Seeing these trends, it appears that something's happened. And Republicans appear so worried that you've got them sending JD Vance, the second command of the country, to spend his precious time campaigning for a Senate Republican in Kansas. Right? A state that literally has not elected a Democrat to the Senate since 1932. And it's a similar story in the battle for the House, right? The D-Triple C says that they're contesting 58 Republican held seats, including some that Trump won by as much as 20 points just two years ago. Meanwhile, you've got Trump desperate basically just trying to bribe everyone by saying, hey, don't give you $5,000 to every American if Republicans win the midterms. And you've got JD Vance out here. Oh my God. Yesterday, this is my favorite thing. Pathetically begging the American people to just give Republicans another chance. There's a lot of good that's been done, but there's a lot of work left to do. Don't give power to the people who cause the problems that we're fixing. Give us another chance or give us another couple of years to continue to work on the amazing things that we've been doing for the past two years. He's like a day away from doing the home lander, I'll suck your dick meme. But give you guys a few more years to what? Start more endless wars. You're going to try and get gas up to 10 bucks, diesel up to 20, seemingly doing zero for affordability, insurance prices, electricity prices, gas prices seem to be completely disconnected from the American public that's suffering, but you're like, hey, don't believe your lion eyes, your insurance costs are completely normal. But Trump, avoiding what people want instead is like promoting AI data centers and flock cameras in your backyard. I mean, ends up being no wonder that you got Republicans trying to get away from that train wreck. Oh, the Republican electives are part of that train wreck. It feels like we're weeks or months away from them, you know, talking about Trump like dear leader and being like, oh, you mean that guy in that big house said his name is Donald Trump. Am I pronouncing that right? But of course, the key thing is that none of this matters. None of the polls. None of the reactions or anything unless you get out and vote. And y'all, it is bigger than these midterms. It is bigger than the next fucking three years. You're going to have to. I'm going to have to vote every time that is necessary, like it is the most important election like your life depends on it for the rest of your life because it does. And if you think your vote doesn't matter, shut up. I love you. It does. One, if it really didn't, they wouldn't be trying to take it away from you. They wouldn't try to suppress it. And two, every election, remember, there is more to vote on than just who's the president, who's the governor? Who's the senator? Right? Make sure when you go in and vote, you vote all the way down the ballot. Right? It's the local ones. It's the little ones. It's the things that sometimes don't get the most attention that actually affect your life the most, even though the big ones also really do matter. But then, while you've got Trump, seemingly causing problems for Republicans who are trying to get elected or reelected and they're just being General Chaos on the Democratic side, once again, you're seeing this debate playing out around Hassan Piker. He's a Twitch streamer, political figure. He was interviewing a lot of candidates. He was promoting a lot of candidates to cycle, and you've seen Republicans looking at Hassan Piker as maybe a way to attack Democrats. So of course, last week, one of the weird ways they did it was putting up his thirst trap at their Trumpapalooza event. No! They fucking posted the mean thing! Which I said last weekend on tour, and I stand by it. If anyone ever does a hippie saw me, please, yes, only use my thirst trap photos. Because I don't care if people love me or hate me as long as someone out there is called me big dog. That's really why I've kept up the fitness journey. Initially, I was like, "I want to be healthy and be able to play with my kids." Now I just want to be healthy for the occasional big dog. But getting back to it. to his son this morning, you had Axios running a headline saying that his son thinks that America is worse than Al Qaeda pound for pound. Or with that, apparently stemming from an interview that he did with the Axios show, which is going to air in full tomorrow, but this was the first quote and clip that they led with to promote it today. And what we've seen so far is that this has actually caused backlash not just for Hassan, but also Axios as well. Because on one side, the general reaction is, "What the fuck are you talking about? What an insane thing to say?" And on the other side, you people are saying, "Hey, this headline is intentionally leaving out context as clickbaiting to make his comments appear more extreme." But here's the clip they ran. Everyone said that America is the top dog in terrorism. Yes. Do you think America then is worse than Al Qaeda? Pound for pound, as far as the number of deaths. Yes, we have caused tremendous terror all around the world. I think that that is not only terror that we are waging on regular civilians and nations in the periphery, but it's also having consequences on ourselves. It's having dramatic consequences on the home front. One clear example of this is what we did in menop, right? There's no distinction between blowing up a school, tripling it with Tomahawk missiles. If you're killing 140 schoolgirls, that is an act of terror. This doesn't mean that all Americans are terrorists, but the reality of the matter is we have to create an environment of accountability to ensure things like that never happen again. And so, following that I've posted, you saw immediate criticism from really all kinds of people, though. Definitely, though. The right was especially quick to hop on it. A Republican's account, sharing a snippet of the interview and then calling Hassan a Democrat spokesman. You're the likes of Spencer Pratt, calling him Hamas, Piker, a former DHS spokesperson saying he should leave the U.S. and a Republican representative from Arizona, arguing that Hassan is a perfect albeit sad representation of how extreme Democrats have become in recent years. So possibly, the most consequential Republican to speak out here was Mike Rogers. Who, you saw, sharing the clip and addressing his post to Abdul Al-Sahead saying, "Enough is enough. Condemn Piker once and for all." Or because Mike Rogers is Al-Sahead's opponent and the very closely watched Michigan Senate race, and Hassan at one point had campaigned with Al-Sahead, which has proven to be very contentious. And while they've tried to do this, and other avenues Republicans have repeatedly been using Hassan against him in an attempt to paint Al-Sahead as some extremists. So that's why you've probably seen any number of clips or quotes where, you know, Al-Sahead's being asked about Hassan, and like earlier this week, he said, "The reason I talk to Hassan isn't because of Hassan. It's because of the three million people who pay attention to what he has to say." With Al-Sahead also giving Axie a statement about this al-Qaeda clip saying, "I do not agree with a statement on Al-Qaeda, nor do I give much weight to the statements made by a social media streamer." Saying, "I am more concerned with the dangerous policies of Donald Trump and Mike Rogers that are raising the prices of gas, groceries, and health care for Michigan doctors." But then also, like the back and forth, it wasn't just limited to Republicans. Because Hassan has ended up being such a key part of midterm races, and overall has become a large figure in Democratic and leftist politics, you had a lot of Democrats themselves upset with his remarks. Because for some extra context here, according to Axios, Republican-affiliated groups have spent nearly $3 million in ads attacking just Al-Sahead over his affiliation with Hassan. So when you hopped online, you saw people arguing things like, "By doing these interviews, Hassan is just feeding the GOP propaganda machine, and it does it to service to the candidates he supports." Asking does Piker want a duel to lose? What the fuck is he doing? Others are giving if you want to help elect candidates, you have to decide whether you want to be the story or you want your work and the candidate to be the story. Another's adding, "Was the quote taken out of context?" Yes. "Even with context, is this deeply out of touch with where most Americans stand?" Yes. One necessary distraction at best and actively damaging at worst to democratic candidates' chances 47 days out from the midterms. Also, yes. And I mean, you even had some conservatives saying, "Thank you Hassan. Might I recommend that you do more interviews?" Saying Republicans in Michigan appreciate your contribution. But then also, if you look online, there are a lot of people that are angry at Axios. Right, some feeling like Axios' headlines and tweets promoting the interview were made to cause outrage and didn't fully represent Hassan's comments in the actual video, arguing things like, "Just post the actual quote, pound for pound as far as the number of deaths, then let people decide if they agree with that." As well as the quote, "versus the headline is actually a tremendous example of why normal people resent and distrust corporate media." And you even had a son making that case, writing, "Oh, this is why they were farming the interview." Saying, "I give a nuanced answer about acts of terror this admin has caused, and they clickbait it." But they're also sort of doubling down and expanding on his remarks there by saying, "Donald Trump and the Republican Party are Epstein-class terrorists." Saying Trump is murdering fishermen off the coastlines of South America, we continue to arm Israel's belligerence. We are choking Cuba to death for no reason. We are terrorizing our own neighbors with an unaccountable Gestapo force. Knowing the modern day Republican Party is y'all kind of. Also, Trump armed al-Qaeda in Yemen when he was president the last time. And with this, you've got people sounding off and, you know, they're cam sharing their opinion, their takes. He's very possible that the situation's just going to grow from here, because again, this is just one clip. The full thing's getting released soon. We might also see more clips in the future, and we don't know yet what was said in the rest of the interview. You had a son apparently telling a reporter that this was the most contentious interview he's ever been involved in. Very likely, they're going to be more waves here. And then, there's even more we got to dive into in just a minute, but first, let me thank a sponsor. Because I think one of the easiest financial mistakes to make is assuming that because you haven't bought anything huge lately, you must be doing great. And that's because it's usually not one giant purchase. It's 20 smaller things quietly adding up before you notice. And that's exactly why I like today's sponsor rocket money. It takes all those moving pieces and gives me a much clearer view of what's actually going on. I connect to my accounts and see my spending, bounce, subscriptions, and upcoming bills together in one dashboard. 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But then, demon right back into the news, if you told me in 2012 that the thrift shop guy, the cold ass, honky guy would rebel against the A-team guy to become the face of a powerful, incredibly important political movement, I would have gone, huh? Also, get out of my way. There's important Megan Fox news I gotta cover. And here we are in the dumpster fire that is 2026, though maybe it's feeling a little bit more like a maybe hopeful dumpster fire, I don't know. But of course, in the news, we've had Macklemore be in remove from Edgerton Stadium tour after speaking out about Palestine, showing imagery of scenes from Gaza. Right, and during a few shows, the Sheeran's loop tour, you had Macklemore taking a moment to see some version of quote, "I wanted to stand up on stages across America and say two words that are very near and dear to my heart, free Palestine, saying my messages for peace, love, for all human beings to be treated equally and with dignity." Which then ended up being very controversial for some people. And then on Monday, you had Macklemore announcing that he was kicked off of the tour because Robert Kraft, who notably is the pro-Israel billionaire owner of the Patriots in Gillette Stadium, an APAC-packed donor, a man who's received an award from Netanyahu with Netanyahu saying there's no greater friend to Israel than Robert Kraft, and so he called up Sheeran and said, "Macklemore is not allowed to perform at my stadium after that." And then you had Kraft, rattling around stadium owners who said, "If Macklemore stays on the tour, you will not be allowed to play in our venues." And instead of standing up to the stadium owners, taking a stand, you had Sheeran essentially being like, "Okay, we'll just get rid of him." And on Tuesday, you had Ed Sheeran releasing a response to Macklemore's statement saying, "Macklemore is coming off tour, was the promoter's decision not mine." With him then, talking about how there's pain, cause, and both sides, and saying that he avoids politics at his shows because there are children there. And while you know shortage people, picking apart this thing, one of the big lines that I think rubbed a lot of people the wrong way was him just saying, "I am not complicit." Also, he made a big deal about his supporting acts, saying he would not abandon the touring crew and the other support acts and musicians who rely on me for work and to make a living, which ended up really standing out because every single one of his tour openers then pulled out. Are we talking Lucas Graham, Aaron Rowe, and Phineas. Phineas saying, "Artists must not be silenced when they speak up for the oppressed. I stand with Palestine and its people." Even the Irish band Biogo, which performs as Sharon's own backing band, quit, saying, "We are Irish people who understand colonialism." And saying, "As founding members of the Irish artists or Palestine movement, we are committed activists for justice and will continue to be." It's when the eyes of many, Sharon was left with as many openers and bands as he spines he has. Also, I gotta say, I think this is why I fuck with the Irish, and I have just over the last 20 years have vibed with the Irish so much. They are not shy in sharing whether they fuck with you or not. The Irish radio station Classic Hits Radio, they just took his music out of rotation for the, quote, foreseeable future. And now with Ed Sheeran's next show being set for this Saturday at Lincoln Financial Field in Philadelphia, you got a lot of people going, "Hey, are you going to see people boycott the tour after all this? Is he going to cancel the tour? Is this something that it's just online or it's something that's fixable?" And while it's being said that Ed Sheeran or his people, they're scrambling to men fences. I mean, the PR crisis, it already seems to be out of control, especially because new things have been continuing to happen. Are you at Maccamore, posting another statement on Wednesday announcing that he's donating the million dollars that he made from the tour to six organizations working to support the Palestinian people? He then with that also invited Kraft to match his donation, writing, "Whatever we disagree about, perhaps we can agree on this." Palestinian lives are worth protecting. A Palestinian life is no less valuable than any other life on this earth. With Maccamore also emphasizing that he wants to bring the conversation back to the Palestinian people, saying, "I will continue to stand with the Palestinian people and their fight for liberation when the news cycle moves on, which it will, don't move with it." Free Palestine. And then actually later that day, we got to do a statement from Kraft saying that he had seen Maccamore's call for a donation and he'd spoken to Sheeran. Adding Ed Sheeran called me and asked me to commit two million dollars to match his donation to aid in the region to fight this humanitarian crisis. And adding Ed now plans to reach out to other venue owners in our goal is to continue to work together to build bridges. And then, in the eyes of many, you had Kraft kind of basically bragging about his supposed efforts to create opportunity for Palestinians over the years. And with this, what I'll say is, while we do know where Maccamore's million bucks is going, because he listed the organizations on Instagram, as far as like Sheeran or Kraft's money, at least right now, it's vague, right? They said the aid in the region. And actually today, you had Miss Rachel announcing that she's matching Maccamore's donation and invites every wealthy white celebrity to do the same, saying she'll be donating to the Palestine Children's Relief Fund. And you know, as a soul situation, it took over the news cycle. We've been hearing from everyone, I mean, everyone from AOC to Tucker Carlson sharing strong opinions. It's not just what has happened with the act and not just in removing Maccamore from the lineup. But when you see what Robert crafted to line up all of the stadiums, to censor speech in that one specific way, it's become clear that this is not just about one music artist or two music artists, but this is about how just I a handful of stadium owners and the elite can prevent an entire massive issue. In this case, the genocide in Gaza, but it doesn't stop there. - You find yourself in middle age doing things you never thought you would do, which is like defending political rappers on your podcast, never thought I'd be here, but it's not a defense of anyone person, it's a defense of the truth, of the literal meaning of words and the intent of the words and of reason. But above all, it's a defense of the innalable right of every person to express this conscience, whether you or I like it or not. This is a veto by one guy likely against the wishes of the overwhelming majority of the American population. So don't tell me, this is a product of the market at work. This is censorship by the billionaire Epstein class. - And generally across the political spectrum, you see a lot of people coming out on Mac and Morris side, though not everyone and that includes Pink and Dave Portinoi. But Pink originally gone from Mac and Morris to be dropped from the tour because of his pro-Palestine comments. And Portinoi, he called Mac and Morris an anti-Semitic 9/11 truth. And while you had plenty of people hitting him back at the merits of those claims, you also had people just kind of generally mocking it. Or with, for example, one of the top replies to Portinoi saying that he backs the ban, "Being the man who wrote a book called Cancel Me If You Can, Celebrating Billionaires Canceling Mac and Morris." Saying the irony is not lost on anyone. But then others know that he's taken certain things out of context and others say you're not even listening to the words that Mac and Morris actually use it. You know, from here, we're gonna have to see how a number of things play out. Is more money raised and donated? Do we find out where some of this money actually is going? What's gonna happen in all aspects to Ed's next show? And will any of this change the public's opinion on Sheeran saying that he is not complicit in a situation where he's a headliner with a net worth of an estimate of $400 million, where he immediately followed the stadium's owners orders and silent smackle more. It's time to tell. And of course, you can always share your opinions, reactions, and predictions in those comments. And then let's jump from getting censored to getting exposed. Because you just had a group of hackers gave it as an unprecedented look at how exactly flock cameras work, how they're detecting cars and people, and the way they communicate with the company. And this is actually thanks to a new joint investigation between 404 media and Wired, where they analyzed data from a flock camera that was torn down and cracked open by a hacking group. And when they spoke to 404 media, they started by posing a question. Why just destroy them when we can reverse engineer them and find the secrets of those spying on us? Saying we liberated hardware in the field, disarmed them, and proceeded with reverse engineering of the cameras and associated solar equipment. And so you're this hacking group able to get into the camera's Android system where they found something similar to a mid-range smartphone. Where the cameras would probably run on roughly 20 flock built apps that handled everything from detecting motion and taking pictures to classifying objects, uploading data, and receiving remote updates. But one of the big key things they found on the hard drive was an encryption key that gave the hackers access to the treasure trove of videos and pictures this camera took. We're talking over a million images of passing cars, motorcycles, and even people. And according to the analysis of the code, whenever something moves into view, the camera takes a rapid series of pictures. And so when a typical vehicle passes it's like 28 pictures, but sometimes the camera can take up to 100. And it's as the camera takes a bunch of different exposures to capture both the license plate and the wider scene. And then it scans the images, lacks and crops useful frames, and sends it all off to flock. And over the course of 21 days, the specific camera photographed more than 50,000 vehicles and generated about 1.6 million images. With it on a typical day, logging up little more than 3,000 vehicles, but on its biggest day, it hit just under 4,500. And notably, it looks like the camera itself doesn't actually appear to read the plate or identify the vehicle's make, model, and color. But reportedly, that happens on flock servers. And that is where the larger flock system comes into play. And as you had wired reporting, flock can use this type of data along with police files and commercial data to identify drivers, find vehicles that repeatedly travel together and search for people based on patterns of movement. That said, it does appear that the cameras themselves can interpret what they're seeing, right? In some cases, it mistook bumper stickers, dealership frames, and other graphics for license plates and cropped them out as if they were plates. And in one case, it highlighted an American flag patch on a motorcycle saddleback as a license plate. But it's not just vehicles. The system also reportedly identifies people. Right, you would wired saying that they pulled the system from the camera's files in the ransom test, showing that the camera regularly identified people, including a selfie of a reporter. And the test included running the system against the videos that they found on the camera itself, some 27,000 short video clips. And they watched the flock system detecting people on 11 of those clips, all of them people on motorcycles. So also, definitely worth mentioning here is that this camera specifically was placed somewhere that you're not gonna see a lot of pedestrians. Now with this, you have flock saying they don't do face recognition and wired in four or four media. They seem to back that up, saying that with at least this investigation, they found no evidence of any facial recognition software beyond what standard on the Android OS and even those weren't enabled. It was also another weird bit about the camera's storage. Apparently the logs had some 27,000 errors about a lack of space along with tens of thousands of other errors, crashes, and reboots. And all the while, every two minutes, code check that the camera was still running and logged the message, who's a good boy? Which, that's not like a weird joke, I'm not kidding. That is a message that reportedly appeared 12,000 times. And so you've got millions of images, of cars and people on a machine that is constantly crashing and it calls itself a good boy every two minutes. Normal stuff, you know. Now it is important to note that not everything was accessible. Right, four or four media and wired report that a lot of the most sensitive storage on the automatic license plate reader was still encrypted. But still the fact that hackers gained as much information as they did, that's insane. And in fact, flock was even warned last year that something like this could happen that really anyone with the know how could exploit the camera's flaws and gain root level access to the footage. Except what you had at the time was the company brushing off those fine digs, downplaying them, saying in order for that to happen, a hacker would actually need physical access. Within the company also promising that, hey, even if someone did get physical access, you couldn't get to any footage. Images only stayed on the device briefly before being sent to the cloud. Except this hacker group apparently blew all of that out of the water. And so when wired and four or four media reached out to flock to ask them about that, they responded with quote, "The unauthorized removal in tampering of a flock camera is illegal." And when asked about the encryption key being on the camera and giving anyone with the skills to get into it access to the footage, they said that they have a process for security researchers to report potential vulnerabilities and they hadn't heard anything through that system. And adding, if the individuals identified legitimate vulnerabilities, we encourage them to submit their technical findings through our vulnerability reporting process. So our security team can review them and take any appropriate action. The one response to this group of hackers saying if they're concerned about drawing too much attention to themselves and becoming the subject of an investigation. But which is fair, considering the first thing flock said was, sounds like y'all were committing some crimes. And the fact that in the past, you had the CEO of this company saying that people that were against these cameras were essentially terrorists. And while I understand that he's apologized for that statement, that still stands out. And with this latest thing, you know, that the act of taking down cameras, either just to disable them or to reverse engineer, it's gotten under a lot of people's skin. And in fact, even those against flock and license plate readers in general, they get a little bit concerned that those actions, they might be playing into their hands. Or with Noel Pichardo, for example, a former Rhode Island cop saying, "I think that type of vigilantism will only crystallize a police in the state at large in their belief that this tool is necessary." But also, we added, "The longer the state continues to ignore the groanings of their constituents who are against this type of surveillance, the more this will happen." So I do think that the things that we've seen online that have ranged from people like trolling the cameras, where they're holding a protest sign that's in front of them, they're then all the way to people destroying them, that has been very interesting to watch. Now to be clear, I would never encourage anyone to do this. But when I see these things, I do think of two things. One, it is a symptom of people genuinely being concerned about this and being dismissed by a lot of their local politicians. So I think it's important that the actual problem is addressed. And two, it makes me wonder how much the videos of the destruction or the trolling of these cameras have led to people then finding out about the situation and then informing themselves about the situation. So again, this is not an endorsement or promotion of you doing something illegal. Do not be stupid, stupid is a world defining phrase we have lived by over the last two decades. If you can believe it, there's even more. 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But then, Devon, right back into the news from that. For your final block today, let's cram in some more news you need to know quickly. Starting with the news that for nearly two decades, no one really could figure out what happened to these four missing women and filly. There were no bodies, there was no trace, nothing. But then, all of a sudden, everything changes, right? 'Cause you got this guy, 44-year-old Eugene Horish, reportedly decided to get high in a parking lot at 8 p.m. one night. With the cop then coming up, Horish, he's gonna be MW with another woman, the cop asked for ID. And the woman gives him an ID except it's for one of these missing women. Now, she claims that Horish gave that ID to her and he was ultimately arrested on drug and gun charges. But now, the cops, they believe they've accidentally stumbled onto a serial killer. Also, there's a chance it's not Horish himself. But because after the news broke, the family of Horish's stepmom went to local news and claimed that everything was all of a sudden starting to make sense. She was last seen that Horish and his father's home in 2016 before disappearing. And you also had prosecutors saying that they recovered a video showing Horish's father, a masochist adult filmmaker who died last year, strangling a woman to death that at the time, they wouldn't say who she was. The cops are also finding an unsigned note, referencing Ted Bundy and methods for disposing a trash as well, as over one and a half million images and videos of victims on hard drives. And while reportedly, they've also interviewed other people in those videos, They didn't reveal it. what they said or how big this whole operation might actually be. And now, well, none of the bodies have been found yet, so these women can't be officially declared dead. You did have the cops believing that two urns found in the home belonged to two of the women. And actually with that, yesterday they identified a fifth victim being tied to this investigation with them believing that she's the woman that Horace's father strangled on video. But for now, Horace, he hasn't gotten any new charges, so whether he actually killed some of these women or he just covered up his dead father's crimes, those are possibilities and a mystery to the police. Or at least they haven't spoken on this publicly yet. Also in very different news, you have the Fed raising interest rates for the first time since 2023, and you've got Trump pissed about it. So those rates, they're getting a.25% bump, landing us somewhere between 3.75% and 4%, and apparently they could go up even more by the end of the year. And as far as the end goal here is lower inflation rates. They've been trying to get us down to 2%. But with gas prices, AI investments in the war in Iran, you've got worse saying the plain fact is that inflation is too high and has been for too long. According to Trump, you can say the same about interest rates. For years, you've had him pushing to get those down. And he actually said that wars wouldn't have even gotten his nomination if they weren't on the same page about that. But now you have him going up, Trump is not happy and you got him saying, lower the interest rates and fast, claim they should be 1% or less because we have the best credit in the world by far. Which by the way is just a lie, Canada, Australia, Germany, plenty of other countries have beaten us there. But I love America, but it doesn't help us to just lie about it, though I understand why he would. But Trump, he also continued to toss around the idea of cutting off any country we have a trade deficit with. That of course comes with its own economic risks as well. But then also, what's interesting about this is that Trump actually talked to Warsh ahead of the announcement and said that he might as well vote with the board because it's just not going to matter. And so his anger really doesn't seem specifically with Warsh, but maybe the rest of the committee, right? Saying that they're hostile, very political, and that they were doing the wrong thing, calling them a bunch of politicians. But still with all that, by going against the president on this, you have finance experts saying, Warsh and the committee are sending a clear message that the Fed will not tolerate inflation drifting further above target, even in the face of political pressure from the White House. So there I would add for now, and I guess we'll see. And then last up in the news today, let's talk about Ditty, apparently creating his own money problems. Because his legal team, they just filed a motion to drop him, saying that he's over six months behind on his legal fees. Right, and this is the firm that was representing him and his 100 million dollar defamation lawsuit against next-star media, Courtney Burgess, and Attorney Ariel Mitchell. Right, and it's all connected to what he calls outlandish claims about Burgess having videos of him sexually assaulting minors and celebrities at his freak-offs. But even with all that on the line, his legal team says he's become so hard to deal with that they can't do it anymore, claiming he's, quote, declined to make himself available for timely, substantive, and direct communications about his cases. But then, he actually had Ditty saying that he was the one who dropped them. I mean, I made the decision to switch lawyers because I won't let anyone take advantage of me by overcharging me and running up bills that were never approved, and adding that any talk about unpaid fees is just part of our dispute over those unapproved charges. So one, the firm's denied all that, and two, with 100 million dollars wrapped up in a case with these types of accusations, I do not think that making enemies out of your lawyers is the best move, but hey, who knows? But that, my friends, beautiful bastards, is the end of your Thursday show. Now, this is probably the last show for this week, before I see you right back here next Monday. So we'll end today with a little housekeeping, some updates, and a little promo. First up, I'd love to see you sometime between September 25th and October 3rd. We've got that chance because I've got five more live shows. We're going to Atlanta, Chicago, St. Paul, Washington DC, and Pittsburgh PA, and what Chicago is sold out, you can still get tickets to the other four, all at crashingouttour.com, links in the description in top comment. Also, while the live show is a different thing, if you want a little bit of a taste of something that's close, you should definitely check out today's brand new episode of Creshing Out or rather yesterday's episode, it's your weekly 90-minute cathartic, funny, ridiculous podcast with myself and Alex Proman. And three, I'm not going to include the code in the description, but just because you made it here to the end of the video, if you go to beautifulbastard.com and use code BigDog for the next 72 hours, you get 25 percent off. Thank you, self, some premium core two blanks, or there's an emotionally exhausted graphic tier too. We're going to be rolling that stock over soon, so enjoy. Thank you. I love you, faces, and I'll see you right back here next time.

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midterms, with rising discontent among Republicans toward Donald Trump. His approval ratings have dropped sharply, particularly in key demographics and farm-heavy states, where the Iran war has driven up fuel and diesel prices, alienating rural voters. This has prompted a significant backlash from Republican leaders, including Representative Maria Elvira Salazar of Florida, who broke from Trump in a controversial ad.

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terrorism to Al-Qaeda sparked outrage—has intensified political attacks on Democrats and raised concerns about media manipulation. 6 million images of vehicles and people, store data locally, and transmit it to servers for analysis, often misidentifying license plates and people, despite claims from Flock that they don’t conduct facial recognition. The group found encrypted data and system flaws, undermining Flock’s security claims.

The incident highlights public concern over surveillance and privacy. On the economic front, the Fed raised interest rates, prompting Trump criticism, while financial experts stress that inflation remains a core concern. Finally, a legal dispute involving Ditty over unpaid legal fees reveals tensions in high-stakes defamation cases.

These interconnected events underscore a political and cultural erosion of trust in leadership, surveillance, and financial policy—signaling a pivotal moment in American governance where public dissent is reshaping the political landscape.

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Many Republicans are distancing themselves from Trump due to declining approval ratings, especially among key demographics like rural voters, young people, and Hispanics. They fear alienating voters and losing in swing districts.

Hassan Piker has become a focal point in political discourse after making comments about terrorism in a recent interview, which were widely criticized and used by Republicans to attack Democratic candidates like Mike Rogers and Abdul Al-Sahead.

Hackers found that Flock cameras take over 1.6 million images daily, store data locally, and send it to servers where vehicles and people are analyzed. The cameras also contain an encryption key that allows access to footage, and they frequently crash with messages like 'who's a good boy?'

Ed Sheeran removed Macklemore from his tour after Macklemore spoke out about Palestine. The decision drew backlash, with openers quitting and critics calling it censorship, leading to debates about free speech and political expression.

The Iran war has driven up gas and diesel prices, harming rural farmers and agricultural communities. This has led to rising concerns among Republican voters and contributed to political discontent with Trump’s policies.

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