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Jo Koy, Bresha Webb & Tank Get Real About Modern Dating

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Jo Koy, Bresha Webb & Tank Get Real About Modern Dating

The transcript features a collection of podcast highlights and conversational segments centered on personal, cultural, and societal shifts. A new podcast, *Don't Lie to Me*, introduces two friends with vastly different life experiences, creating a dynamic dialogue on identity and perspective. Multiple podcasts—including *Betrayal*, *The Girlfriends: Flight or Fight*, and *Everybody’s Business*—are promoted, each addressing distinct themes such as betrayal, workplace dynamics, and economic influence. A major theme is the evolving nature of romance and public intimacy, with participants critiquing excessive social media behavior and performative expressions of affection. The conversation also examines the negative impacts of hustle culture, arguing that relentless work ethic without rest can be detrimental to mental and emotional well-being. Personal narratives explore the challenges of modern relationships, including divorce, blended families, and emotional resilience. There is a strong emphasis on authenticity, personal purpose, and the importance of genuine human connection in contrast to digital performance. Ultimately, the dialogue reflects a broader cultural shift—from traditional, face-to-face courtship to digital, performance-driven interactions—while advocating for balance, self-awareness, and meaningful relationships as foundational to a fulfilling life.

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- Lisa, tell them about our new show. - We have a new podcast. It's called Don't Lie to Me. I'm Lexi Juanu, where two best friends, 22 years apart, but so close at heart. - And I'm Lisa de Julio, the old one, which means we have wildly different references, occasionally different opinions, and at this point in my 50s, I've lived it all. - Now in my 30s, being the founder of new shoes, good taste is my business. - Listen on the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. - Didn't catch the latest Roland Martin unfiltered podcast? - Here's what you missed. - People wake up and go, oh, damn, wait and hold up. They change all of that? - Yes. - It's real. - This is a wholesale attack. It is targeting black people in every federal agency. - It's wrong. - White folks have never allowed that reckoning to last more than a decade. - Catch Roland Martin's daily commentary on the black information network. - And download Roland Martin unfiltered on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcast. - Or wherever you get your podcasts. - You broke me. You do not deserve happiness. - I'm Andrea Gunning. On this season of Betrayal, Carl thought he was living a normal drama-free life until the messages started. - Someone's not gonna make it out of this alive. - Every piece of evidence pointed to the wrong guy. - He was not going to stop unless we stopped him. - Listen to Betrayal season six on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. - Welcome aboard season six of the girlfriends. Flight or fight, which takes place 30,000 feet in the sky. A beautiful woman smiles and hands you a scotch. But you have no idea just how messed up her job actually is. - It was the most sexist job I think you could have. - Until one day, a group of stewardesses spark a revolution that reshapes America. Listen to the girlfriends, flight or fight, on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. - One recent episodes of The Questlove Show, I chat with JoJo about her music and "Wallo 267" about her story, everything in between. - Don't invite me to karaoke. I'm gonna make it weird. Someone's gonna try to sing, leave get out, two little two later, baby two, and I'm gonna be like, "Okay, cool." - Check out my conversation with JoJo, "Wallo 267" and more on The Questlove Show. Listen to The Questlove Show, on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Peace. - Bloomberg's Big Take podcast has everything you need to know about the most expensive midterms in U.S. history, like the money being spent to control the Senate. - Everyone has been waiting to see how Trump will spend his big purchase. He was sitting on nearly half a billion dollars. - How candidates are rewriting their party's playbooks and how big business is throwing its money into the ring. - There is obviously the AI Superpacks, which are two sides there, so they're spending sometimes on different sides of races, sometimes on the same side of races. - Listen to The Big Take on The I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. - I'm Stacy Vanick-Smith. - I'm Max Shaftken. - We are both journalists at Bloomberg Business Week. - And our podcast, everybody's business, finds the meaning behind the numbers. - Things like why is ice cream so expensive right now? - Is polymarket the new stock market? - The max, will we ever retire? - Because decoding the money, power, and influence the moves the world is everybody's business. - Listen to everybody's business on The I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. - But he can't hear out of his right ear. - Hey, Dad, we're not bringing that to this face. - I just hear it. - I just want to throw some hate because he's bluffing. - What was it like, back in the day, you guys had clubs that had like, you see the back in the day, that's crazy. - Back in the day, what was crazy? - I found out earlier that Stila lived in a sleep negative house and I didn't know what that meant. - I don't necessarily think hustle culture is the healthiest thing that was taught to us. - I don't know how to like, - And that's in the music. - Talk to women. - Well, I don't think they don't know how to talk to women. They're just talking to the women of this day. - Why am I crying right now? - I can't laugh. - You don't have to keep questioning. - Are we wrapping up? Is that what we're talking about? - No, no, I'm just not. - You are, I'm just. - Yeah. - Aren't you getting precious, not listening? (all laughing) This has been consistent. - Ah! - No! (all laughing) - Get your phone off me, job. (upbeat music) - Do we think PDA is performative? - No. I mean, PDA. - PDA. - Is it? - Public Dispayment Vaccine? - Yeah. - Like kissing and shooting public. - Like kissing your wife and public. - I think there is a bar. Like I feel like- - That's what the question was. But I feel like it came from a nigga that's definitely single with no love. - Yeah. - Yeah, like- - Love, that wrote that quite much. - That's too much. - That's too much now. - It's PDA can be in. To me, I'm like a little PDA. - Why not? - Exactly. And it, like, if I got a phone. (all laughing) - No, my phone's a little bit, okay? - I mean, I don't wanna see people just walking down the street and they're just kissing. Like, you know those couple that just, like, they can't just get to a corner. - Yeah, yeah. - You know, they got to kiss at every corner. Now, that's a little much. - Walking and kissing is- - But I don't think- - Walking and kissing is a little much. - I don't think it's performative if it's the feeling. You know what I'm saying? If I didn't have a couple of beverages- - It's R&B generation. - R&B generation. (all laughing) - Really? - If I- - Why did you have to say the R&B generation? - Because that's the general. - Oh, R&B general. - General, yeah. - Okay, okay, okay. - Okay, okay. - If the moment feels right. You understand what I'm saying? - Yeah. - Yeah. - I wanna get my hands on it. I don't care where we at. - I mean, I'm walking in. - Talk to the lot. - Talk to the lot. - Talk to the lot. - What's certain parts of it? Yeah, we got to retreat to the bathroom, I understand. - Yeah. - Yeah. - But the kisser neck and the rubber calf and our feet, get on my bin. - Thank you. - I love, I love PDA. I just think social media ruined it for everybody. - It's, it, yes, that's it. - And especially in the field that we're in, 'cause I got caught one time in TMZ with- - Do-do-do-do-do-do-go, I haven't picked Nick at Santa Monica. - And boom, now my son and everybody always goes, "Oh, are you going to a picnic?" And it's just really- (all laughing) - I'm not even making this up to be funny. It's just, I like to be public, and like if I'm in love, like I want to hold your hand, I want to kiss you, I want to open the door. Like if I'm in that mood, I want to, yeah, I want to enjoy the atmosphere, whatever it is. - But it was your girlfriend, yeah. - No, it wasn't. (all laughing) - You in my hand, man. - That's what I was supposed to do. - That's the only reason you get mad. - Joe Klein is enjoying it. - I just can't. (all laughing) - I'm glad. - I'm glad. (all laughing) - Just there. - So dumb. And it's so hard, we can call my son right now. He's like, "Are you out of picnic?" Like non-stop, and like I feel like social media has kind of ruined that little area of romance. - It is. - It has to be, 'cause I know Bresha, I know you feel the same way. - I do, I mean, that's what I'm saying. You want to just feel the love, you want to be a moment. You know, have a moment. - Yeah. - And now everyone wants to capture it. - They want to capture it. - And then when you don't do it, like then you see some celebrities and they catch you in something and you're not holding hands. You're like, "Oh my god, I can't believe he didn't open the door. "He didn't hold a hand." You know, it's like you're damned if you do damned it. - And by the way, here's another thing, I'm starting to jump on you. But like, one thing, if you're gonna take a picture of me in public, that's fine. But can you post the good one? (all laughing) Can you just like edit, maybe go to Photoshop? Why do you have to have me like this? Like, (all laughing) Like, and I'm not, it pisses me off. That's why I get mad when I see someone with the phone. I'm like, 'cause I know it's gonna be bad. And I'll offer, like let's do the selfie. - That'll be yeah. - Let me get rid of my double chin in this photo. Enjoy it. - Yeah. And don't just do you. Don't Photoshop yourself and not me. - Yeah, what is that? - You wanna take a picture with me and you're gonna just fix you and not me. - That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. - But I've already posted something on my page and I've done a little way here and then you posted real and I'm like, "Yo, that's not cool to leave together, like that's right." - I don't even ask for a clue, but I say, "Hey, you should know what's great, what you want me to do." - Exactly, that's a good man. - You said you didn't want me to post, then I'm a post. - I have some homies who get in a relationship and their Instagram becomes a relationship Instagram and at that point, I'm like, "All right, bro, you get it, you love her." - You see, you want one of those guys, you want those guys. - I have a girlfriend, I post my girlfriend, I'm like, "I don't know, I just need to have a PDA." - You just need to say, "Hey, I heard you." - I'm not, okay, my PDA situation is this. I think in public sometimes, it's just unnecessary. If I feel it, yeah, then by all means, if we're on a romantic walk, hey, I'm gonna get PDA, but if I'm like in the grocery store, I'm not trying to. - I'm just talking about what you just said and you said, "We got it, we got it, we got it, we got it, we got it." - I get it, I get it, we got it, we got it. - Yo, bro, my homie over host is so, his page will just be, "I follow her already, bro, I'm not gonna see this twice." - You know what I mean? - I'm not. - You're something, man. - No, I'm not crazy. - You like loose. - Okay, you guys have to agree to me. You sometimes loose your homie in a relationship. - I'm okay with losing my homie in a relationship. - Yeah, that nigga found a better relationship. - Okay. - With his girl now. - My homie is not going to do with my woman. - I don't want him to. - That part. - Okay. - I do think it's weird when you can't have a wife and when I'm like, "Hey, bro, I'm also making a choice." - I'm also making a choice here. - I don't want to see y'all. - But if y'all be together, y'all be together. And that's just where y'all going to be. - It's only so much basketball. - Yeah. - And we can play. - Man, man. - I don't see him. - I don't think you guys heard what Steele said earlier. And I want to go ahead and emphasize what he said. Because it was really funny and it got buried in laughter. So I'm going to go ahead and say it again. It goes when his girl goes, "Hey, you didn't make me look good." And then you're like, "What the fuck? You trying to look good for other men?" -Every guy is gonna post an ugly pick of his chick. That way no one talks to her. -I'm not gonna lie. Yes, when I asked my wife about pictures about me, I don't trust her no more. I'll be like, "How are you looking at me?" But you look good. I'm like, "Mm-hmm." [ Laughter ] -You fiddin' me up. -You kinda make sure you don't like me. [ Laughter ] Crazy work, baby. [ Laughter ] -That's not even true. That's not even true. -That's not even true. -She says it's not true. She says, "Why would I want other women not to be my man as attractive?" I say, "Good cleanup." [ Laughter ] Nice job, bitch. -Good job, bitch. -Well, I got to play it the other way, because I'm always -- -Shirt off? -Yeah, always. -It's a shirt off shirt. -I'm a wrestler always, y'all. So, yeah. -It's his name is Kane. -I'm saying so, I always -- So, I have to give my wife room, you know, to show -- -Yeah. -You know, kind of -- -Yeah. -Don't know her page. -To look at the kidder? -To get her only face. [ Laughter ] -She can bring that money home. -I'm like, "Shine, baby. And I'm with it. I don't feel no way about it." There's a limit. -Yeah, yeah. -There's a limit. There's a difference between -- -She has a limit. -She has a limit. -She has a limit, or do you have a limit? -She has a limit. -Okay. [ Laughter ] -Yeah, I'm like, "Do you have a limit?" -Yeah, I'm like, "Do you have a limit?" -There's a limit. -I'm like, "Do you have a limit?" -I'm like, "Do you have a limit?" -There's a limit. -You get to do what you want. -Because I'm really selling it. -Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. -I'm just really coming in here. -You get that -- You get to have your shirt off at a crisp bound. -It's all the time. -But she has to be fully clumped at a crisp bound. -You get to do push-ups on stage in front of 80,000 people. -Yes. -Yes. -You get to wear a trench coat to the summer. -Yes. -I got it, I got it, I got it, I got it. -Connected with me in a way. -I like you so much. [ Laughter ] [ Laughter ] -Yah. -Yah. [ Laughter ] -There's a difference in between looking good and looking available. -Mm. -Talking about it. -Talking about it? -Oh, okay. -And so that's where we can sometimes blur the lies. -That's crazy 'cause Taylor. -You look available. -You look available. -You look available. -You look a bullshit, bro. -That's your job. -To look available to get the ratings of availability. -Every time I see a Terry Post, I'm like, "He's available." [ Laughter ] -Oh, fuck you, dude. -Hashtag tastes available. And then you know who doesn't look available? -Face wide. -She looks like she's out watching. [ Laughter ] -She looks like she's gonna open the trench coat and then a bunch -- [ Laughter ] -And then a box of mobs of shit in the face. -Stay away. I'm with him. -All right. -Bro. -Those are the rules, y'all. I didn't make them. -That's fine. -Tosy, your rules. -You had that video recently, too, with the security lady that was next to you about to faint. -She wanted to have a heart attack. -She wanted something. -That's hell of available. -She wanted 1,000 positions. You wanted some of it. -She almost took it right there. -And I just had to acknowledge her and let her know. -I see. -I know what you're going through. [ Laughter ] -That's ridiculous. -I get it. -When I first met Tank, you know what he had on? A see-through button up. I'm like, "Why do you have buttons?" Why do you have buttons? [ Laughter ] You should have just drew a shirt on your body, bro. -He's like, "Hey, is this a true story Tank?" He's like, "Hey, man, we're here to see babyface." -Hey, no, we're going to see babyface if those pecs walk into the showroom. -Yeah, that's crazy. -He was literally -- That was the funniest day ever. -It's a pretty shirt. -It was barely a shirt. -A woman could never do that. -My regained stash. You've got to have it available. -What do you think about -- I'm sorry to change the topic. -You're good. -But what do you think about -- And this is a good one. I hate even bringing it up. But I live by -- You say code, right? I live by a very strict man code. -Yes. -And this one -- I'm a die on this one. If you introduce me to your girlfriend and we become friends for years, like every time you go out, we go out, blah, blah, blah. And then you break up. I officially have broken up with your ex-girlfriend. -I don't talk to her. -No! -She can DM me. It doesn't exist anymore. -It doesn't work that way. -I'm not being mean. It's just -- It's a broke code. But then I see dudes dating other dudes' exes. And I just -- I cringe when I hear that. -I'll tell you why I do it. -8 billion people on Earth. -5 billion people. -They do it because in Hollywood, they probably find -- I mean, trust the amount of girls anyway. And they're like, "Oh, you was with this person." -I'm a flammable woman. -I'm a flammable woman. That person. -Yeah. -I guess you'll hold it down for me as well. -No, no. -I'm not agree with you. -I have never dated a homie's girl. -Defending these niggas. -That's not a good defense. -No, I'm trying to make logic of this. Whenever I see a person with a girl who, like, did another celebrity end up winding up with somebody else. I'm like, "Oh, no. I'm not seeing a celebrity." -I'm saying like a homie. -Like a homie. -The homie. -I never would now. -Yeah, no. -But I don't understand that. -No, dinner dicks. -That dude, I don't understand. -That's an insecure dude to me. -So that he's always wanted. -Yo, shit. -Yo, shit. -And that's fine. -I never knew I'm done. -Yeah. -No offense. -And here's the thing. Here's the thing. -Yeah. -It can be your homie. It probably is your homie in real life. You have a great friendship as brothers. -Mm-hmm. -But some guys will do anything for coaching. -Yeah, for coaching. -Yeah, coaching. -So, like, you mean sacrifice to friendship? -They don't even see it that way. -Yeah, they focus on that. -Because they see available women no matter where they're from or who they've been with, it's fair game. -I don't agree with you. -I mean, I listen. -I don't agree with it either. But a woman is also a part of the conversation as well. -Yeah. -And if she has chemistry with a person and time has passed and you have moved on, the man has moved on, the homies have moved on with their lives with other things. -Well, they're still hanging out. -Oh, the homies are still hanging out. -Yeah. -Precious. -Oh, my God. Hold on. Hold on, hold on. -Primis trying to throw away in. -I want you all to know this. Precious has been doing this since the beginning of the beginning. -Stop it now, child. -I'm not taking it. -She listens to two words. -And then adds a new subject. -Like a man. Like a man, Precious. Get it together. -Listen, I'm just twitting my tooth in here. You know, I want to represent for the women. -Yes, yes. -And there are women that just don't give a fuck. -I agree. I think they should be able to make the decision. -Yeah. -I'm like, you can't speak for that lady's problem part. -That's all they do is she won't. But I do think to myself, like, there are so many girls out here. It's about like how close you are with that person though. And my head's like, oh, if I ain't that close with you and you out here saying, 'cause this dude's out here that would say we friends, 'cause you know your bitch won't fuck me. Let's talk it a little bit, you know? Are we homies? Are you saying that because you know she's going? -Yeah. -Talk to her brother. -Yeah. -Don't talk to me. -Reach. -She overly going. -Yeah. -But it wouldn't be good if your homeboy-- I mean, if-- Okay, here's the situation. Okay? If a girl is on a date with one of your homeboys, you know that she's about that life. But your boy is in love. You know, and you're like, yo, you feeling it. But shouldn't you as his homeboy be like, oh, man, you know, maybe-- -No. -No, if he don't listen, I gotta just show him. I gotta just smash right now. I didn't want to do this brother. -I'm gonna-- -I'm gonna-- -You ain't listening. -You ain't listening. -I did this for us. -I'm protecting you. -I mean, I'm like, that's what men should do. They should help guys out. -I think men help their friends out. We help our friends out. We know that that dude is a home. We gonna be like, yo. -Hey, I know you kind of feeling that, but-- -It depends also on how much he got going on. Like, if he's not a dude who really gets to it, then you-- you taking the one thing he got, it's tough. Like, I got some homies to think I'm done. So, you got one fly girl for the first time. It's like, hate to tell you, brother. She is a dog. And you're like, I gotta let him learn that himself. I can't-- I wasn't warned about every girl I dated. I gotta learn that shit myself. And if I-- if I teach you that-- -I wasn't either. -I think I said it. I just looked over. -My precious facial expression. She's gonna answer a different question. -That may be a long term. -Have you ever dated somebody's one of your friends, Xs? -Yeah. -Wait. This is just-- -No, no, no, no, no. -That means yes. -That means yes. -That means yes. -If it wasn't a no to start. -Listen, I mean, there's-- it's-- when you're in a circle, and it's-- -Hey, let's pause. I'll be right back. -No, for the most part, no. I haven't. But I have seen-- -I haven't. -For the most part. -For the most part, no. Because I feel like in this industry, it's a different world. -Valent. -You know, it's like when we're in this industry, it's hard to meet people that are on the same level as you that can relate to what you do in this world, you know? -I have a question. What's harder to find a good man or a good woman? -I mean, it depends on who you are. -Oh, it's harder. -Listen, I mean, it's hard to find a good man and it's hard to find a-- for a good man to find a good woman that is on the same-- that are equally yoked. -Yeah. -You know, because that's the thing. It's like, we're in this world. And I can't say for other people in other industries of life, but in this world in Hollywood, it is very difficult to find someone that is on your level. -Is it harder for a woman or a man? -I think for women, for sure. -Yeah, I mean, for sure. -For sure, I mean. -She's someone like you. -Yeah, I'm a good girl. -You're a public and that's a hard thing for a-- -Yes. -A new father and husband, right? -Are you taking my husband's side? -No. -No, I'm not taking it. He's not listening. [ Laughter ] -No, what I'm saying is, that's the struggle of us in this industry, just like how he-- -He has a profession where he wears snow. -It's hard. I feel for your wife, you know what I mean? -You know what I mean? -Like, you don't seem to be able to. -He wears snow. No top anything very well, and you know, you do push ups in front of him. - But he can't, but he can't hear out of his right ear. - And that we're not bringing that to this table. - I just want to throw some hate 'cause he's buffed. (laughing) - Yeah, there's one muscle that don't-- (laughing) - It's here, hey watch this, you guys. (clapping) (laughing) - What the? - He doesn't know if I'm talking or not. (laughing) - It's fucked up, isn't it? - Taken thing, but he sings it mono. (laughing) - Don't, it's unhinged. - Sit, I'm not coming to your show anymore. (laughing) - But no, you don't want him to sit. - Yeah, I don't, I mean, of course. - It's hard for his life, it's got to be hard for your husband. - Absolutely. - You think it's harder today's a day though? Then it was like-- - Way harder. - Way harder, way harder. - What's the biggest difference? I'm 32 years old, so I feel like I'm the youngest here maybe. What was, you know, I said maybe, come on play right? - What was it like, like back in the day, you guys had clubs in hell like, you see that? - Back in the day, that's crazy. - I'll say-- - Show it to me! - We had fun. - We really had fun. - I don't like what you mean. I know what you mean, I don't know. - Yeah. - I think, I think the fundamental difference in meeting people today versus yesterday is actually meeting people and talking to them. - Well, yeah. - Yeah. - Like that was, when you wanted to meet somebody back in the day. (laughing) - So down. - Oh my god. - When Jesus was healing me. - Yeah. (laughing) - He's like, I'm going to meet some people. Where are my sandals? (laughing) The dirt is dusty right now. (laughing) - I need to grab my lid and robe. - Yes. - I'm trying to find a woman back in my day. (laughing) - What a jerk. - How are these things? - It's a jerk. - What a jerk. - I'm not a me. - I'm not a me guy, but man, sometimes you're like, this dad should have pulled out. (laughing) - That's what I'm trying to say. - Oh, Lord. - Talking to people was like, that was the goal. Like, you wanted to actually get face to face what a person and have a conversation and understand them. From the inside of us, the outside in, which is what you get first with all of the scrolls is different things. And so, you know, you got to make more of an educated decision about who you were letting into your life. - Yeah. - I'm saying, like, you would go to people's houses. Like, I'm gonna come pick you up at your house. - You would call a phone number and you didn't know who was gonna pick you up. - You didn't know who? - I don't know. - Don't do that. - Don't do that. - You didn't have a house phone. - I didn't have a house phone. - You got a house phone on my face. - You do not, you don't answer it. - Yeah, just for the facts. - You don't answer it on my house at all. - Thank you. - But I know that number's ill. - He's in a rouse all the time. - Like, many people now is just, you know, it's just, it's authentic. - It's easy now. - Like now, it's a numbers game for these kids, right? Like, they just go on DM and just shoot their shot. 'Cause there's no risk. It's like, I'm hiding behind this phone. Like, I don't have to approach you. I just say, hey, what's your number? And if it doesn't, if you get no response, who cares? I got a hundred of this same question to like a hundred different people. - And nobody else had a talk to me. - It took me to ask a girl for her number. It took the whole school year. - Like, literally, I'm just watching like a stalker. I have the number in my hand. - Were we stalking? Was that the same thing? - Yeah, you stalked me. - Oh, yeah. - And you handed your number. - Yeah, Lenny Williams with that girl's house on his song. He just showed up at her house. Back when R&Bs, let's do that. - Back when R&B, Jesus. - He's gonna let you do that. - Back when R&B. - It's not the same. You're not saying about the same thing. - Yeah, it's not that good. - I mean, yeah. - I hear you. - I don't know if it's not that good. I just think that it's different. - It's different. - It's different, right? Because, you know, we represented a time where things just moved a certain way. It was a process. There was a courting process. There was a dating process. - And it was in the music. - Let me put on something nice so that when I go on this day and I look good, let me make sure I smell good. Matter of fact, let me make sure I get hurt something. Because, you know, she's gonna love this flower. Let me make sure I open the door for her. 'Cause then that's gonna loosen her up and she gonna be like, "That's why we were doing some real catering back in the day." And now it's just like you say, it's just emotionally, you know, there's just niggas. A center fire emoji, niggas, at a heart, maybe. - That's the thing, men don't know how to like-- - And that's in the music. - Talk to women. Like, I was like a guy remember me. - Yeah. - Because they, because they are receptive to that new conversation. - The fire and the heart emoji means with us. - It works, it's working. It works. - I just remember this young man who tried to hollet me. - I was like, what are you saying? - What, how did that go? - But what was the approach? - Well-- - Follow me. - Follow me. - No, he literally saw me and he would just look at me. And I said, "Hi." Well, I was like, "What, are you, what's up with you?" And then he was like, "Oh, what's your IG?" - Oh, nah. - And I was like-- - Hey, fumble. - I was like, "Okay, I'm married, but thank you, okay." But first of all, let's go back to the drawing board, okay? I need you to listen to these songs and maybe study that. And maybe they can teach you how to finesse and talk to a woman. I'm a woman. If you like this type of woman who pulls up like this, who dresses like this, what's your IG and like, "Oh, you look good." Like, that's not enough. How are you going to catch my attention? - Yeah, I really love this. And I respect this. I know she's talking to that little boy for so long. - You should have stopped talking to him, man. - You said she was married, you should have walked away. - That's all her. That's crazy. She kept talking to him. - I really care about this situation. - I'm talking to him. - I have classes. - No, I really care about the women that are out here trying to date. - Yeah. - And they want to be courted. They want to be taught-- - But it goes back to what I'm saying. I'm telling you, me as a man, women have hit on me. And their first question was like, "Hmm, what's your IG?" That's been their question to me. And I'm like, I'm a grown-ass woman. - But it's tanked. - Acted. - I got a new outcome in out two of you. - Yeah. - You married two, so. - No, I'm, but-- - Hey, Tant, do you like saying things like that, knowing that no one on this panel? The dudes have never experienced what you just-- - Oh my gosh. - They've all experienced things. - No one is-- - Wait, and what? - Really? - Just like, rather, wait. - I'm gonna say, think of yourself. - I'm a man in the air. - Joe, Joe. - Joe. - Joe. - Joe, the whole thing. - Joe, Joe. - I love Joe. - I love Joe. - Joe, Joe. - Joe, Joe. - Hold on. - I love you. - I love you. - Joe. - I love you. - Only one of us sitting here at his headline of stadium. Hold on to cut it out. - Yeah. - By the way, he's talking about me. - Yeah, we know. - I want to stop that. - I'm the one that's sold out, so I stay at that. - All right. - I'm fine. - You stay here, Joe. - I'm the one that sold out six forms at-- - Stop. - I'm the only comic. - You don't need-- - What I'm saying is-- - What I'm saying is-- - What I'm saying, and believe me, I get what you're saying. What I'm saying is, this dude got like this, the song, and he's singing, and then, like-- - And then, you still-- - He's still like a statue. - Yeah, that's what I'm trying to say. And like, I don't know what that feels like. Like, I know what it feels like to be a comic and funny, but like, you got this other thing going on where-- Like, bro, I never did a punchline, and remember like, oh my god, here, and just throw their panties. - I disagree. - Girl, shut up. - You know what? - Dude. - Because growing up, right? - Yeah. - To me, getting the girl was making her laugh. - Well, 100%. - Oh, it is. - Well, 100%. - That's always, to me, been the magic. Regardless of what any of the other stuff is, if you can get her to laugh-- - You got her. - That's-- - That's, that's it. - I think what you're getting-- - And you're-- - And you're-- - And you're this clear. - I think you're just saying it on yourself. - I thought you were talking about you doing that after like a concert, like singing. But yeah, I get that. I get that version, like, we're in that. - No, I'm in that-- - You were on just sitting there. - Why you throwing me in there? - Yeah, I'm just saying it. - I was just saying it. - We have the same for you. - I just-- - You don't throw me in it. - I know you're not built like tech. - Oh, shit. - There's no way. - There's no way. - There's no way. - There's no way. - There's no way. - I'm willing to bet the money right now. - I mean, the lights right now, if the lighting is right. - If the lighting is right. (laughing) - Shadows, I might be contrasted. I might get some fan blowing. - Yeah, I might get shit blowing. - Yeah, I think I just think like a guest. - When it comes to the music, it's all about the generation. And the music always reflects the generations and how they communicate. Of course, we would love to re-implement our style of communication back into the music. But we also have to accept the fact that that time has gone. - You think there's a direct correlation between that and divorce and less marriage. - And it's not a guest holding on to more love and conversation. Like I think right now, I think of what is at 50% of American men are single in this moment. - Music is the spiritual connection. Plus, and now the bag is more important than anything. - Yeah, I'm the nigga with money. You know, that's my jam. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - But also, it's just a contrary thought for those who aren't married, for those who are living the playboy or playgirl lifestyle, since we are in a space where that kind of thing is more acceptable and not frowned upon, people are kind of living the life that they would rather live versus the one that traditionally-- - Yeah, it's different. - Is said where you're supposed to be. - But that's about like, mm-hmm. You guys. I had to remember people back in the day weren't, they knew the people around and like my dad, you know, he knew the person across the street down the street and now it's about it and the people into school with. I can meet some girl in Australia right now that I met. You know what I mean? That has changed, the access has changed so much that yeah, I understand that a guy who's sitting at home in butt fuck wherever is like looking on his phone and he's looking at his wife and he's looking at his phone he's like, damn, I can have it all. But you know-- - That's on both sides. - Yeah, on both sides. - Thank you. - I'm going to respect that. - Yeah, yeah. - If you will solve Breeze's face. (laughing) - I think their women, you know, rightfully start falling, they make more money. The actual dynamic within society has changed so much too, so that I think that like women are like, yeah, I would like to get a little taste of what it feels like being nigga. I wouldn't. - Women are really-- - Y'all been collecting holes for years. - That is it. - I wanna come home. - Women are really buying tables at the club, body cell, they really written a boat bottom cell. - Yeah. - You're pulling up to the Chris Brown tank, you know, I'm sorry. - They're really going to make a nose-bottom cell and seeing what they can do. - Yeah. - Come on now. - It's dragging me out there. (laughing) - It's different. And so I think that now it's a thing where you kind of have to allow people to experience however they choose. - Yeah. - That's what I'm about. Like however you perform it, however you, you know, display it however you, whatever that is. If it makes sense to you and you ain't hurt nobody, by all means, enjoy yourself. - Live your life. - Live your life. - Wow. - Live your life. - Wow. - That was beautiful. (clapping) - That was beautiful. (clapping) But with you guys being, I'm sorry. - No, no, go ahead, brother. - 'Cause I'm divorced, you know, I got a divorce after the first year. But I was working at Nordstrom Rack. I was like struggling comic and I was married to this. Like I knew that I wanted to be a comedian in that-- - What age were you? - And I felt like I was being selfish. I was like in my 30s, but I just felt like I haven't made it yet and I'm married to this thing called comedy. And I don't want to leave this. And I felt like when Angie and I married and had a kid, my son, I was just like, I don't think I can do this right now 'cause I need to give all my time to this. 'Cause we were always fighting. Every time I went on the road, there was a fight. Every time I went to the laugh factory, there was a fight. And I told her, I go, when I make it, I'm gonna take care of you. Like we don't need a lawyer right now, especially I'm only making 9.50 an hour. Look, you're not gonna get anything. But I promised you I'm gonna take care of you. And I did, you know what I mean? You can call her right now, she's my best friend. I bought her a house in front of my house. We live right next to each other. Like we've been best friends ever since. And I just feel like I was a product of divorce. I'll get to what my question, but I was a product of divorce. And I saw how my mom and dad fight until the, like to the state, they're still fighting. And like, I suffered, I didn't want my son to suffer, right? - Yeah. - And what I'm saying long story short is you guys are in the, like in the, the peak, but like you guys are like right now in that moment that you guys been working so hard for to get to and now you're sharing it with somebody. And like how do you keep that dream and also like dividing your time to make that work? Because I, there was no way I could. He makes his own divorce, man. - Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, and I'm going to make it even harder to answer. Cause it's like we live in a town that's 30% is staying together. 70% is divorced. Like it doesn't last in this town. Because it is hard for you to be in that position. So I just want to hear how you guys are doing. - If you are unsettled in your purpose, you have not yet become who you are supposed to be. And you can't make a decision, not a lifelong decision from an unsettled place. - Now look. - If you are chasing your purpose, that is always going to come before anything. Unfortunately, and people along the way are going to suffer as a result of that. Once you get established into who and what you're supposed to be, then you can truly start adding people to your life in that way. And this is just what I've been through. Cause I've been through that. I've been through trying to figure out how to take care of a wife, how to take care of a kid, but also chase whoever this tank guy is and be on the road and look available and be sexy and write the songs and be in the studio from nine at night to nine in the morning. And where you been? I've been working. You know where I've been? I've been trying to, well, no, nobody stay out on it. Nobody knows how to navigate any of that. Cause we're still in the building face of it all. Yeah, it's hard. It's difficult. - I will say for me, my journey has been different. And that's why when I say it's difficult for you to find your purpose partner in this industry and whatever industry you are. But when you can find a person to climb the mountain with, it is such a blessing. Because when you're having new good days, you can celebrate those great days. And when you're having the bad days, you can come together and lift each other up. Remind each other of who you are and what your purpose is. I'm grateful that I have found a purpose made who is just as hungry in his career. Just as hungry as I am in my career. And we can be equally as devoted to our first marriage as possible because I love what I do as much as he loves what he does. But we can also come together. And sometimes it gets a little annoying because all we're talking about is work. But that's what really brought us together. And that's our purpose. And then from there, we can continue to grow because now my purpose is seeing him fulfill his purpose. And now his purpose is embedded in me fulfilling my purpose. So of course, yeah, I'm on set. Yeah, I need you to take care of the baby and hold it down while I'm in Chicago filming barbershop. Yeah, I'm gonna hold it down while you're filming and shooting this show and doing all of that and writing your masterpiece and locking yourself up in your office for two days. You know, like that's what it, that's what it gets. And that's beautiful. And I want to ask you a question, though. Were you, you were, you were brief, though. Yeah. You were already that. I was already that and that's why I was still climbing. You're still doing, you're still ascending to this day. Yes, thank you. You're still, but you were, I was already brilliantly. You were a star already. But that's why it's important of who you connect with. But that's why I say you have to be somewhat established within yourself. It is true. It's true, true. You have to settle for yourself. And that, and that man you found was established within himself and trying to get to where he was trying to get to. That's why dating is really hard in these streets. He's, yeah. No, yeah. You gotta be in love with yourself, aren't you? You gotta be very in love with him. In his sense, and know who you are. And love everybody. And know how much you can take. Because that way you're able to share that. Because that way you can truly go up. You can truly represent what it is you need, right? Because that communication is very necessary. In order for us to be what we are, these are the things that I need. I know me, I need these things. What do you need? And those conversations, that's the most important conversation. Because I need peace and quiet sometimes. Right now, actually. [LAUGHTER] Like, I need to turn everything off. I need to just go back in my guesthouse and just sit and do nothing. It is. That's a hard thing to explain, though, man. It is. But she just explained it to us. I mean, it is. Just take a break. I mean, that was the one that-- But that was the hardest part about my marriage. Like, the comedy aspect was so hard to explain. Like, I'm not going out, you know what I mean? I'm going to work. It's a Wednesday night, and I need to get up. And I'm not getting a stage chance that I want. If I can just kind of speak to it, and I could be off base, but it's that you love what you do. And it looks like it's so much fun. And you're having such a good time. And to a woman who is not probably having that good time in whatever it is that she's doing, or just at home with the kid, and watching you as it looks frallicking around Hollywood. They've got to be fulfilled in whatever they do. You've got to be fulfilled. You've got to be your own individual. And so you can't be looking at me. I'm like-- And I get pretty-- Go! [LAUGHTER] How long were you with the person before? I was with Angie for-- this is going to suck. It's going to sound like a bat. But it was a year, and I knew-- Marry for a year or with her for a year. We were married for a year, and Angie knows. Like, we're best friends. And I love your movie. I love Angie's. It's a little perfectly in your movie. Shout out to your movie. Oh, thank you. I loved it. I love you. Thank you. That was a note to my family. I know. I got it all. Shout out to Steven Spielberg. He gave me that movie. That was the craziest thing, man. He watched my Hawaii special. Absolutely. And literally in the office a week later, and then literally three days after that, we signed a deal for that movie. That's amazing. It was the greatest thing. That's crazy. But Angie, man, I love her so much. But I just knew-- there was times where I worked Nordstrom Rack, right? And then come home, and she's like, I hear about my girls. I'm like, I have a spot tonight. She's like, well, then you need to take Joe. I literally take my son to the lab battery. And you can call Tiffany Addish. Like, she used to hold him in the balcony. If you're at the lab, she'd be like this. Hurry up, get your baby. But those were those times where I couldn't take it anymore. I'm like, I don't think she gets it. And I feel bad now. But like, but now - Now we're just like this beautiful family, even though we're divorced, but we're great parents. - Yeah, and it's, it's, right. Dreamers have to find each other, right? Because it's hard to understand what chasing a dream looks like if you're not a dreamer. - Yeah, it looks delusional if you're not a dreamer. - We are, listen. - And you have to write that down. - We are the new, new, new. - We are the new ones. - No, you have to be, you have to be, you have to be. - We're crazy, yeah. We really are hard. - It's also your divorce, and it still be a successful relationship, though, too. - Yes. - I don't think people are, I used to, when I was a kid, but I don't necessarily believe that if you are in a relationship for 10 years, whatever it may be, and then you get divorced, it was a throwaway or something like that that wasn't good. I could think to yourself, those 10 years that you were together could have been amazing, or those were simply preparing you for whatever else you have. So, relationships all serve purpose to me in a way, so. - I wanna ask you, when I went to your house a long time ago. - Yeah, yeah. - And you just proposed, right? Probably something like that. - Wait, am I, am I, am I? - Close enough, you're good. Close enough. - Can I say something? (laughing) - Wait, are you good? - Are you good? - I married her, yes, we're, okay. - Okay. - No, I'm talking about you. - I'm talking about you. - We all have the same way. - We're like, why are you looking around like that? - I don't want to be so right before I, - Like, this is coming to interrogation. - No, you're the same man. - He's like, "Uh, I'm here. "The rings were not mine." - I would, (laughing) - They let's just clarify that. - No, no, no, no, no. - That's my wife now, I'm here. - Marry. - What I'm saying, I wanna get to, what I'm, what I'm gonna met you, right? - Yeah. - She, there was a kid. - Yes, yes. - And was that, that was her? - No, I'm gonna say something. - Okay, now I wanna tell you, 'cause I talk about it in my new special. - Okay. - Like, like, Fred, you know, my stepdad, right? Was the best thing that ever happened in my life, right? Look at me, I'm getting emotional. (laughing) But like, I just watch you know, like, it takes, like, what you did is so dope. So, look at me, why am I getting emotional? - I'm like, right? - It's dope because I saw the kid. - Yeah. - And he knew he was too big to be my son. - But, no, he was, hey, he's the owner. (laughing) - I don't know what you're gonna hear, but he got it. - I just remember how happy that kid was at your house, and you were doing the other show at that time. And I was just like, like, I remember leaving, going, yo, see, that's a real one. - Yeah. - Because my stepdad came into my life when I needed him. So, why am I crying right now? - You know, you don't have a key question. - But like, when I see blended families, I'm like, I give it up because it's such a hard thing to do, you know, on everyone's part. The kid, the mom, the son, everything. And it's like, to see that, when you do that, man, I was just, I always wanted to shout that out to you. And it's a beautiful thing. And you're his dad, and that's dope, bro. And like, and it means a lot, 'cause, you know, Fred passed, and this, and this new special is dedicated to him, you know. - I love that. (clapping) - I'm so sorry. - Yeah, no, no, it's, yeah, he's just everything, but, but like, like, that's another thing. Like, like, like, we're talking about them being married, but like, it's even crazier, 'cause, look at me, dude. Like, what the fuck? But like, it's even crazier, because you're also in that same position. And now, you know, you took on the responsibility of being married, but you also became a dad, which is like, even an amazing thing to, like, to do. So I just wanted to give you your phone, bro. - I appreciate that. - I mean, I'm a bonus mom too, so I'm very curious on how, like, you balance all of it, you know, 'cause, like, 'cause how long have you guys been married? - Been married for a year. - Okay. - Been in his life since he was two. Probably trying to win everything. Oh, that stuff. - How old does he now? - He's nine. - Wow. - He is, but, I don't know. - He's cute. - Yeah. - That's my dog. He's the best. It makes it easy, obviously, when you love his mom. - Yeah. - That love is so strong that it makes it easy to love him, but he is made it, you know, I guess being a part of raising him has also made it easy to see the different things that we have embedded him, but he's an amazing child. - Yeah. - And for me, my parents are not the, being pastors, but they're pastors in our house, Hoey, so I always have, hello, random people living with us, and taking it, so to me, it's like, it was a no brainer to invest into him in that way. That makes sense just because I want nothing for him or for every young little black boy, every boy or man in general to be loved in a way. And I think for me, my dad is a super old-school dad, like a-- - Handshakes. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, he's still, you know, he's still gay. Something that I love, I think, is important just to make sure you can share that same love with, you know, with him, but with his mom, with a little black boys in general. Yeah, he's the best of. He really, I think it wasn't difficult, so to speak, for me, because being in his life early enough, I was able to, I don't want to say, control the situation, but-- - Manage it. - Yeah, manage it early. - Manage the situation in that-- Yeah, and again, my wife's, her ex, her baby daddy, we had mutuals and stuff, you know, so it made it easier for me also to be like, "Hey, fam, I ain't got time for that bullshit." Yeah, but let's just chop it up and be man. Like, I'm gonna be here, I'm gonna be in her life. So, if anything, it should make it easy for you to love the situation, see that I am loving your son. - Exactly, man. - It's so beautiful when a blended family can actually be blended and actually work together for the better of the child. - Yeah. - Because in my situation, again, as well, my husband had a four-year-old when I came into the fold, and he had a great relationship with his baby moms, you know, I mean, it was building they were just getting used to, like, "Okay, this is what our lives are gonna be." And so, I love his child and I love her, her mom, in the same way, because she gave birth. So, any time we talk about it, you know, I'm like, "Hey, how's your mom? How's, let's all talk about how you are doing." - I love it. - I'll tell him, go, "Hey, make sure you call your name." - Yeah. - Like, it's a village, like, I was raised in a village. So, it just, I'm grateful to be a part of her village, and so, I raised her from that space, and she encouraged me to have a baby, 'cause that was not on my to-do list. And so, like, raising her and being a part of her journey, and she was like, "I want a baby sister." And I was like, "Girl, that's not how it happens, really?" Okay, and then, when she got it, she's so grateful that she has this experience, and that I was able to experience all of that with her. So, who those to you, and, you know, all the people that are being-- - I didn't mean to get a cry. - No, no, it's beautiful. - No, it's beautiful, yeah, yeah. - And reef is a motherfuckers. - Yeah, but I think we live in a time, like, back when we were young, like, when I was young, like, it was like the cool thing to do. Like, it was all, you bragged about, like, "Oh, I got a divorce, and let's see what she can get out of me." You know what I mean? Or, like, "Oh, I'll leave," or whatever. Like, I hated that shit. I hated seeing that, you know what I mean? So, like, so, "God, I hate getting emotional." - No. - But, like, when Angie was dating her, like, I didn't look at whoever she was dating, it was like, you know, like, trying to break that up. I was like, "I'm on the road, and this dude," like, you know, and she was with him for a long time. Like, you know what I mean? He knew how to skate, you know what I mean? Like, and taught my son how to skate, and he was into, like, making clothes. And I love that. Like, I love the fact that there's another guy that my son can be inspired by and also be at home with him. Like, sometimes people at home should look at that and recognize, instead of breaking the foundation, you can make the foundation stronger. So, when you see people like, like, this, like, be inspired by it, 'cause it is harder, but it's also fucking dope, bro. Like, it's dope, when I saw that, man. I always wanted to tell you that, but-- - I appreciate that. - And even my, you know, her new boyfriend now, it's like, it's just great. It's, I love it. I love the fact that we can chase our dreams whatever it is that we're doing is still be a family. - Have you ever? - It's not a nuclear family, but it's, to be honest, I've seen some nuclear families, and they're exactly what it's called. It's fucking other destruction. It's just, yeah, my mom's still with my dad, yeah, but they fucking hate each other. And they're not happy. And me and Angie are divorced, and we are the best of friends. Like, I woke up today and she was on the couch. She slept there, 'cause we were watching my special, on like, you know what I mean? - No, we ain't that close, man. - I'm not, look, look, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, dude, what? - No, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, dude. - It's a cool thing, 'cause we're sharing moments, 'cause I wanna share that moment with my son and his mom, and that's what that is. Like, we're always gonna be forever bonded by the son. Like, now, if it was my ex-girlfriend, like, no, you're not, like, we're done. But like, this is special. Like, he made a human together, and we're raising this human till we die together. - Yes. - And I want you to be in my life forever. So, yeah, that's just, anyway, sorry. But I wanted to say yo, broom, I love you, man. Like, seriously, and I love you. Like, it means so much, like, the new spot, I'm not trying to plug my special, but it was my, it was my own, it was like, when he passed, I was like, this is my, my love letter to him. - I love that, I love that, I love that, I love that. - Anyways, we'll be right back. (all laughing) We'll be right back. Grisha didn't hear any of that. - Oh, I did! - They shopped it out, like, shut up! - I found out earlier that Steelo lived in a sleep negative house, and I didn't know what that meant. - What is that? - What is that? - They all know about a sleep negative. - Sleep negative and sleep positive households. I learned this from my wife. Apparently this is a thing. But my dad, he used to be on some, like, if he woke up, all the boys had to get up and work when he was working. Like, you couldn't sleep in his house if he was up working. - Oh, that's him. - And like, he used to just get up and find him to do something. - That's some farm. Was he raised on a farm or something? - No, he wasn't raised on a farm. He was raised missing for some of his years and stuff. He definitely was picking some shit out there. - Yeah. He wasn't raising a farm for him. He lived in Chicago, but I think he was taught that. - Yeah. - His head, he just believes he's raising men in a way and these men gonna get up and work. 'Cause man, you know, making life y'all work 100%. And then I didn't realize that we could sleep longer. I got around my wife and I would like get up and work and at like 7 a.m. apparently I'd be loud and she'd be like, "Why are you so loud?" I'm like, "Because everybody should be up working." - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm doing real loud, I was just taking on this like a toxic trait, bringing it to my household. I had to break out of that. - I mean, but do you feel more disciplined that you had that upbringing? So, I mean, the early bird gets the worm and all of that. Like, do you feel like you surpassed a lot of people? - I think it comes from hustle culture. - Yeah, hustle culture. - You talk about these things. I don't necessarily think hustle culture is the healthiest thing that was taught to us. I think that there are some good things about hustle culture for sure, but I think that you need rest in those different things to make sure that you can hustle. - In a way, and that you have a balance. And I don't think that we had a lot of balance. It was like, get to work in this way, yeah. - I think what I said earlier about purpose, like unconsciously purpose will drive you in a way to where whatever hustle is inside of you will naturally come out. Like the thing to where the hustle becomes abusive, I think that's more of what you would be saying. - I think I'm using them on show. (laughing) - My dad watching this, like, no, no. (laughing) - Abuse. - Abuse. - I never got something like that. - Yeah. - Yeah. - More abuse. - I got abuse. (laughing) - I mean, now with therapy, now we know. (laughing) - But I think that the purpose will make you stay up. - Yeah. - I'll have them with you all night. - Yeah. - And I'm saying, and I think that. - We're built different. - That's where it should be driven from to me. But there are, I mean, there's more, a bunch of ways of skin to care. There's, you know, there's the Jojo Axel man there. It's, you know, for me. - That's what you lose dad. - I can't. (laughing) - I'm like, get up. - Get up. Get down. - Get down. (laughing) - And his shit didn't work. Not one mic in that house. (laughing) - I can't do that because I got it from, I got it from seeing it and wanting it. - Yeah. - And, you know, seeing my cousin, finalist will play the piano and play the drums. And then I would sneak in and try to play the piano and try to play the drums. And watching my mom and all of them sing. And I would try to sing. And I would listen to that. Nobody had to tell me to go and sit on my grandmother's piano and play the piano. I needed to sit on that piano and play the piano. I needed to play those drums. I had to. So, to me, it's like, when I'm even looking at my own kids, I'm like, you have to show me the need that you have, the desire that you have before I can start implementing what my hustle for you looks like. - Yeah, 'cause you want this for you? You want them to chase their own dream, right? You don't want them to continue yours. - No, not even kids. - Do they play? - Can they play the key? - Can they play the piano a little bit? My daughter sings. - That's great. - All my kids sing. - Do you see the idea? - My oldest daughter, all the way. I have three daughters, all three of them can sing. - That's crazy. - You know one of the most powerful things. - They can't sing them. - No, do they? - I have to. - Both can sing. - You don't want any, one of these kids. - Oh, they're fire. - It's crazy. - They're nuts. - Every single one of them. - They're nuts. - And I told one of them. - The Y-A's, right? - One more, one more. - I told one of them, she's selling sperm. - It's like a horse. - It's crazy. - Breathe it out. - Literally it should be on the shelf set at Air One. - Breathe. - I thought you'd talk about this one. - You got to see his kids sing. - They're crazy. - It's amazing. - All amazing things. But I think they need a little sprinkle of some chicks around them so they can get that swag that comes with the R&B as well. - Why are you staying in the rain? - We need just a lot of wildness of hate. - I'm sorry, we need to know what to get out. - I'm saying this. - One-Yay has sauce. - Yes. - One-Yay has, I've been chasing, I'm married now for sure. But I've been chasing women for a long time. That has been the goal. - You know a dog when you see a dog. - Yeah. - A dog knows a dog. - You know what dogs have a big, thick chain and a big name plate. (laughing) Am I right? - Right, that was crazy. - We'll be right back with Richard. (laughing) - Richard doesn't know how to talk about it. We'll be right back. - I don't know how to talk about it. - I look at it right away. - Oh my god. - You said that? - I'm looking at you when you said that in my head away. - And I'm like, I don't know how to talk about it. - I know somebody got that, huh? - No, I love them. They can sing their asses off first of all. - They're monsters. - Yeah. - Are we losing this across the board? Are we losing dog across the board? - Well, it's not that-- - They're the dogs that are out there. (laughing) - That's in the right heart. - They're the dogs that are out there. - No! - No, we're not losing. - Change with big names. - We're the-- - We'll be right back. - They just ain't got that dog. - But think about where the dog came from, though. - They came from-- - Oh, you're raising a certain amount. - The dog came from having nothing. - Yeah, yeah. - And having to get something. - Got to meet your whole family with you. - And not having the blue friend or anybody in your ear telling you how to do it. - Yeah. - The dog comes from trial and error. And having to get up off the ground every time you fall, push yourself up. - So these dads, it's too present, I'm with you. (laughing) - Well, they need more dogs, man. (laughing) - Well, I just think the dog looks different. - Yeah. - Oh, okay. - The dog just looks, it just shows up different, right? Our's was a bit more, ours was a bit more grit, a bit more dirty. These dogs are cleaner. They're in the house. - You know what I'm saying? They can fit good. - Where's the hungry food? - In comedy come from for you and you as well. Comedy is the worst, like talking about, right? It's like we take, first of all, there's no stage anywhere. You got a fight for stage time. - You at this level? - No, at this level. - I'm pleased. - At this level, look at the people. - Yeah, we are not your dad. - Be sure, like I said, you don't listen. (laughing) I sold out a football stage. (laughing) - Hit 'em, breathe. - I'm trying to tell you, first of all, I was like, just about like a good stage. - Oh, what I'm saying, what I'm saying, we should like, to get into it when we were scared. - Yeah, it was like, you know, it's, there's no stage, no one's looking at us. - It is, it's like you're pretty social media, so it's a little different. - Oh, way before, you had to prove the last time you went on stage, every time it was crazy. - Yeah, he can come in as your general crazy. - No, no, no, no, no, the guy says maybe four, it's maybe four social media. - It was maybe, because there was no social media funny. Like, you had to be funny in front of people. - Okay, you know what, I'm gonna tell you something, 'cause I want you to hear this one. Yes, it was before social media, right? And like, and I remember seeing an ad, not an ad, an article, I think it was Rolling Stone, whatever it was, it could be Bon Jovi Erasmith, I don't know which one it was, but they asked him what was your grind like, and they said that they used to draw their flyers in Xeroxcopium and put them on windshields at malls. And I started doing that because I read that article. I had this open mic in Vegas that I used to do, and I went to Kinkos and I started making flyers. I was like, "Oh, that's what you gotta do." And I started doing that, right? And it's always been a part of my grind, right? So like, now I have like, you know, I got my social, I got IG, I got whatever, I can make a flyer and send it, right? You go to my car right now, I have 10,000 flyers, front-back, and it's matte, so I can sign it, right? So that's my hustle, right? And yeah, social media is great, we have a reach. I can hit Australia. I sold out Kudos Arena in Australia. - Listen, Joe, that's amazing. - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, what I'm saying is, I don't care. I still want that. - You want us to do what I'm talking about? - I want that tangent. - I want that tangible flyer work. - This is amazing. - I want to hand it to you. Nothing cooler than a fan coming to my show and go, you're not gonna leave what I got, I brought it, and they pulled this flyer out that I signed about eight years ago. Like, to me, that's always gonna be my grind. No matter how much social media or whatever it is that you guys have been blessed with, bro, ain't nothing like handing the card to somebody and letting them know, I love you, thank you for coming to my show, and turning the back, there's more shows that you can go to. - Yeah. - Martin Malve is still the greatest film of all of them. I was at Martin Malve, still the greatest film of marketing. - Oh, 100%. - I just, I did a, I got a new album coming up, called "Experience." - Oh, yeah. - About a negative experience. - I'm plugging. And so, you know, I'm on this tour with Chris Brown, I'm not sure. - Stop. And. - First of all, fucking stop. - It's, I know we've done the whole, we've done that. - No, no, no, no. - Go for it. - Go for it. - I ain't talking about all straight, I'm just, don't go ahead. - Don't go ahead. - Don't go ahead. - You should get him free, get it back. - It was his name as well. - It was his name. - It was the whole pause and stutter. - It was his name. - It was the whole pause. - I mean, his name is name. - I'm currently on tour with, like, my name again. - He did this. - God, do you like no hitter? - I got it. - Chris Brown. - Chris Brown. - I selling R&B artists ever, they're there. - All right. - By the way, the best concert that's out right now. - Oh yeah, we're here. - I love it, man. - So now, stadiums. - Yeah, stadiums. - Yeah, and I played the same stadium. (laughing) - We're gonna, we're gonna-- - No, but you had the fly. - Yeah, yeah, but you're, it's so dope, dude. - But go ahead. - But what I did was, I adopted that same method. And I met, I had flyers made. - Hell yeah, man. - And I had flyers made. And we hired a street team. - Yes. - And we're putting flyers on cars and stuff with QR calls and all the cool stuff. And we got a big truck driving around with tank on it like this. - So dope. - Yeah. - Shorter, no shirt. - No shirt. - No shirt, no shirt. - No shirt. - No shirt, no shirt, no shirt, no shirt. - I've never had a shirt on in a album cover or no. - No. - Bro, you know what you should have had? - Those albums didn't sell. - You don't know. - We don't know about those. (laughing) We don't know about them. - You don't, you should have had. You should have wrapped the tank. - I should have wrapped the tank. - You just had a tank. - You're gonna have a full of buy. - Yes. - Next time. - It's funny because on my way here, I was talking about flyers because I'm-- - I'm new to the standup comedy life. You know, like I'm straight, actress, all of that, but since my special on Hulu. - Ah. (audience applauding) - Oh, brilliant. - Oh, brilliant. - Tell Joe Koyne. - Oh, I love it. - No, I love it. - First of all, I reposted your-- - You did and I appreciate that. - Today, I'm gonna like-- (audience laughing) (audience laughing) - I'll say that to you, you know that. - No, but it's amazing. Like, starting from the ground and, you know, I'm starting a tour and the first time I'm doing that. And so I'm making flyers and figuring out the QR codes and all of that. So I'm just excited about this new chapter and learning how to do it. So thank you. This is so cool. It's a new life, you know, I'm filled with acting and all of that. - By the way, everything about your special and the artwork and everything is beautiful. - Yeah. - I love it. - It's beautiful. - Shout out to my team. - Yeah, and Hulu killed it, right? It's Hulu, right? - Yes, Hulu. - Yeah, they killed it. - Shout out to Hulu as well. I have a show called Reasonable Doubt. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - You're seeing it coming out. - What? - Season coming out. - I'm talking with you two right now. - Or, yeah. - Yeah. - And then send me a talk on my YouTube right now. He's killing it. It's anyway, I'm number two on Netflix, right now. - Keep going. - And it just aired yesterday. It's crazy. - It's just good. - We're number 655 on YouTube. - Like my show was canceled a year ago. - Is it? - My show's canceled, two years ago. - You're so dumb. - This is the best. - It wraps all of you though. To be honest, this is the most fun I've ever had. - Yeah, and that's never been right. And I love it. Like, when I found out it was with them, I was like, 'cause I have a heart out, but now I'm like, fuck the other show. Like, it's just so fun. Like, what you've created is-- - Are we wrapping up? Is that what we're doing? - No, no, I'm just using it regardless. - Yeah. - Well, once again, Breesha's not listening. (all laughing) This has been consistent since-- (all laughing) - It's a way, it's a way, it's a way for me to stop. I've had enough. - That's so good. - We were brought to you by heel. (all laughing) - If I kick someone's ass, just grab your heels. - Yeah! - I breathe. (all laughing) - I can't. This is so dumb. - I'm coming to your show. - Yes. - I can't wait to do that. - You're talking this week, huh? - Yeah, this week. - You're gonna show this week, huh? - Yeah, yeah. - 'Cause I'm gonna get back these stages. I'm gonna get back to my stand-up soon, so. - Yeah, you were doing stand-up. You jumped this stand-up as well. - Yes, you did. - That's amazing. - I did it for about three years straight. - Yeah. - But you've always been around, right? Like-- - I've always been. - You're like, "T-I didn't come and take nothing." (all laughing) - I said, "Stay this to it." I knew you could actually come back. - I didn't come back, nothing. Okay, so I'm gonna come take my class. This is what T-I was gonna come back to. - How do you feel as an actual stand-up? - An actual stand-up. (all laughing) - That was a diss. That was something crazy. How do you feel a stand-up that when you watch people come into the actual stand-up space? It's so hard. So I come in and you want to actually-- - I respect the hell out of 'cause I'm too scared to do it. - How do you feel as someone who was like, "Oh, you see a tank, get up there." - You know these hoes? (all laughing) No, I don't mind. I want everyone to go up. I love this. - I do. - And I think just talent speaks for itself. Just like in your realm. Like I like to sing on stage. I know I'm not tank, but I try, you know what I mean? I do it with Juan Ye. - Hey Ross. - So it's like, is whatever it is that you have in your head, like I always say this to anyone. It's like if you can think about it, then it's gonna happen. Like it's not a dream. Like dreams do come true. Like as clichés, that sounds. It's like, it's a reality. Like I always say, like I wanna stay asleep for the rest of my life 'cause I'm living my dream. - Yes sir. - Don't wake me up. So I love it. So if you wanna try this and try it, like nothing worse than like being 98 gone, man, I wish I would have tried that one. - Wasted potential. - And that's just what I didn't wanna be. I didn't wanna be that. And it was scary. Like my first time doing this was like maybe like 15 years ago, open up a Christmas. - Yeah. - Wow. - Shout out to Chris. - Love Chris. - I'll just handle it. - I didn't hold this. - No, I wasn't right at home. I was like, I'm known for tank. And Atlantic, you gotta be, you gotta be funny. - Yes. - It's meant to be like, what do you wanna do? I was like, let me open. He's like, are you sure? - Yeah, I like that. - Yeah, that's a good Chris Spencer, right? - Yeah. - That was good. - I was like, yeah, let me do it. He's like, do you have some jokes? I was like, I just want to talk to him. - That's a good Chris. - That's a good Chris Loki. - I just wrote like two, you know what I'm saying? I was like, I just need seven minutes. So he was like, just tank. - You don't know how long seven minutes it is until you get started. - You don't know how long seven minutes it is. - And I got to about five and a half and I got a big laugh and I said, thank you so much. - Oh, I was like, how are we doing the same thing? - That was my turn. - That was my turn. - That was my turn. - Yeah. - I was like, good night. Oh, bitches, line up to the legs. And Chris Spencer is gonna start my car. - And it went great and then, and the bridge was actually there for one. - Yeah, it was amazing. - One of my bombs. - You know, that's a part of the life. - It's a part of the life. - But it was so bad because babyface was there too. - Oh, man. - And after I got off stage. - Now it's different. - After I got off stage. - He said that was brave. - You know what I mean, man, wait a minute. - I'm speechless. - Keep this here. - That was brave as a hilarious. - That sounds like me. - Oh, that was brave. - Bro, he's the coolest cat in the world, man. - I love that dude so much. - Whatever. - I can hang out with this dude. - I can hang out with that guy. - That was brave, bro. - That was brave. - That was brave. - If you guys have not seen babyface live. - You go. - It is the craziest. - You got to. - Spiritual ever see. - You got to. - You get to song three. And I want to tell you what song three is. It's whip appeals. - When he finishes whip appeal. I looked at Take and went. Is the show over? - Yes. - And we still had an hour and a half to go. - It's tense after hit. - It was hit after hit. - After hit. - After hit. - I sing background. - You know Take, went up. - I don't know how to sing. - It's the craziest. - Whatever you need, sir. I'm available. - Yeah. It's amazing. - Because he's babyface. - Babyface. - But I do want to say this. I do want to say this. I really don't like the word bomb. To me, I use this. This is my mentality when it comes to whatever it is that we do. We never bomb. When you don't try, that's a fucking bomb. You bombed in life because you never tried. But we do. We fucking win every time. It looks like a bomb. But we're on stage doing our shit. Like we learn from our mistakes. - Absolutely. - Like this is what we do. Like I'm going to go up any time. I will go up anywhere. And if I bomb my bomb, but it's not a bomb to me. I went up. I'm fucking sharpening my knife. So. - That's hell. When did you start staying at it? I started at 18 right out of high school. - Don't fucking do it. Don't fucking do it right now. You're going to do it again, aren't you? He just looked at me. He goes, when did you start standing up? I go right out of high school. I went. No, no, no. So before social media. I mean, where you going? I'm definitely wrong. Just as a tin command. Yeah. Yeah. We know. Hear me. Hear me. Coming to this day. Yes. Your next coach, Jess. Yes. He will grab the megaphone and take over. And provide you with laughter. Ladies and gentlemen. Joghaw. (laughing) Rushing in on his noble steed. I'm trying to walk across crocodiles. Just game of throw. Raging comes and takes you away. Raging. When you bomb a dragon, grabs you. Yeah. Honestly, we need to put that back into it. You know the guy from the Apollo to come get me. You know I won the Apollo, man. Oh, that's amazing. I won the Apollo. You did. You also. The way I got all that stuff was crazy. The way I got Dev Jam was nuts. How? Like at the spake resume. Just all these spake people that I opened for. It was all fake. Right? And I went to the door and I go, hey, I'm kind of known in town. I do all the open mics here. Kind of just warm up. The crowd and I asked the security guard that. He was like, let me get the promoter. And he literally got the promoter. Who's my friend to this day? Her name's Yvette Anderson. Wow. And she came to the door. And I handed it. I go, I'm a comic. I just warm up. And she's like, she's like, you know, the show is booked already. But you can come in. You know, comments come in. I'll hold on to your resume. Is this your number? Next time we come back. I'll make sure to call you. I go, I go, okay, cool. Can I watch you? Yeah. And she sat me next to these cameras. So this is like 1994. Five is whatever. Whatever. Coming in. Damn. Coming to the stage. This black man is funny. And they had, she had a camera right here, right? And I remember sitting down. This is my first time ever seeing like expensive cameras like that. Right? And I was just looking. I was like, yo, this is legit. This is like a real, like, they're taping comedy me right now. And, uh, by the way, none of the comics got there. What? It was like 45 minutes late. And the crowd was going crazy. Like, start the fucking show. Let's go. Let's go. And she literally, Yvette walked up to me. And she goes, can you just go up and just warm up? And I said this. I go, I go like this. I go, can you record it with that camera? Because I never had to record it. Yeah. And she goes, let me, let me press. And she press me. She goes, please, go go. And I went up, standing up. I got it all in. I had the tape. Wow. I still had the tape. Put it out. And I got the tape. - Hey, who the fuck are you wearing? That's very funny, you want to do a comic view? I love it, it goes, I have my producers calling in two weeks, and that's how I got to come with you. - Yeah. - When I hear people tell stories about what it took for them to make it or get in the Hollywood, and you hear little notes within the story where you're like, oh, there was no way you were gonna make it. You don't know that in those moments, but even hearing you say, oh, I faked my full resume, that's shit that I think about all the time that I've been like, I lied constantly when I first got here. And I feel like we've all probably put ourselves to have a crazy story where you're like, so you'll tell somebody else, they'll hear it and be like, you did, what? You're like, oh, I listened. They was like, man, I got this group, you got songs? I got plenty, so I got 80 songs right now, ready for you. Okay, well I'm booking the studio for tomorrow. Be there, all right. Cool, I'm bringing all the songs, I know songs. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Exactly, if you're able to come to the studio at two, I'm gonna get there at 10. - Yeah, I'm gonna come out. - They got there, I had six songs ready. - Dude, JB Spu said that to me a long time ago. That's why you hear. - Baby, so you make it there? - Baby said that to me a long time ago and I didn't understand when he met by that, man. He said, he's like, if they tell you, look, if they tell you the auditions at 12, you get there at 11. And I was like, I didn't understand that. Why? 'Cause they know you're early and you're serious. - Yeah. - Wow, that's deep. - I mean, that's just the real, I mean, I come from theater, and so it's like, I was raised to be a creative artist that respected everybody's position, everybody's position. And if you don't, then that just shows it, you're really not in it for the collective. - Yeah, coming from a collective, I was the DJ, I was the youngest, and I got the butt of everything. Like, I didn't get shit on tour. And then when we finally got to, and I started getting my own shit, I treated everybody so nice because I know what it was like to be the one who nobody gave a fuck about. And it was like, yes, tough. - But that's why I was my own rowdy. I carried two keyboards, a double tier stand and the amp. Can I just carry that mic? - Can I say something though? - You're built for it. (laughing) - All right, so you're gonna take it like this. - You're gonna take it like this. - And we need you to move these buttons. (laughing) - And we want you to do it. - We got to do it. - Yeah, thank you. - No shirt on. - No shirt on. - I want you to hang these chairs around your neck. (laughing) - Talk about the experience. - Oh, ridiculous. - I'm not finished in the story. - Yeah, he said I'm done. - But yeah, thank you guys so much. I really appreciate it. That was a great time. - A lot of fun. - A lot of fun. - A lot of fun. - A lot of fun. - A lot of tears, a lot of love. It was great. - You went back up to this. - Who are you? (laughing) - Yo. (upbeat music) - All right. - Thank you. (upbeat music) - This is so awesome, thank you. (upbeat music) - Lisa, tell them about our new show. We have a new podcast. I'm Lexi Ivano, we're two best friends, 22 years apart, but so close at heart. And I'm Lisa Di Giulio, the old one, which means we have wildly different references, occasionally different opinions, and at this point in my 50s, I've lived it all. Now in my 30s, being the founder of New Shoes, good taste is my business. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. - There should not be a single law enforcement agency. 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Someone's gonna try to sing, leave get out, or too little, too late, or baby, too. - Oh, no. - And I'm gonna be like, "Okay, cool." - Check out my conversation with JoJo, "Wall-O-267" and more on The Quest Love Show. Listen to The Quest Love Show on the iHeartRadio app, or podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Peace. - The miles change how you move, but more importantly, they change how you show up for your life. I'm Emily Abadi. On The Hurtle with Emily Abadi podcast, I sit down with the lead athletes, record holders, coaches, and everyday runners to unpack the mindset behind pushing through when things get tough. Because the discipline, grace, and grit you build out there on the pavement, that's what helps you show up as your best self everywhere else. - I just love to say I never know who's watching, so you wanna make sure you, you through and through and you just stay true to who you are. 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Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. A new podcast titled *Don't Lie to Me* features two best friends with a 22-year age gap, offering contrasting life experiences and perspectives.
  2. Several podcasts are promoted, including *Betrayal*, *The Girlfriends
  3. The discussion highlights a growing societal shift in romantic and social behaviors, particularly the overuse of public displays of affection (PDA) and the influence of social media on dating norms.
  4. There is a critique of hustle culture as potentially unhealthy, emphasizing the need for balance, rest, and self-awareness in personal and professional life.
  5. Themes of modern dating, communication, and family dynamics are explored, including blended families, emotional resilience, and the value of genuine connection over performance.
  6. A recurring concern is the erosion of authentic human interaction due to digital platforms and instant communication, contrasting with past in-person, face-to-face courtship.
  7. The conversation touches on mental health, divorce, and personal growth, showing how purpose and self-love are essential in building stable relationships.
  8. The hosts reflect on how societal changes—especially in music, media, and culture—have reshaped dating, love, and identity over time.

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The transcript features a collection of podcast highlights and conversational segments centered on personal, cultural, and societal shifts. A new podcast, *Don't Lie to Me*, introduces two friends with vastly different life experiences, creating a dynamic dialogue on identity and perspective. Multiple podcasts—including *Betrayal*, *The Girlfriends: Flight or Fight*, and *Everybody’s Business*—are promoted, each addressing distinct themes such as betrayal, workplace dynamics, and economic influence.

A major theme is the evolving nature of romance and public intimacy, with participants critiquing excessive social media behavior and performative expressions of affection. The conversation also examines the negative impacts of hustle culture, arguing that relentless work ethic without rest can be detrimental to mental and emotional well-being. Personal narratives explore the challenges of modern relationships, including divorce, blended families, and emotional resilience.

There is a strong emphasis on authenticity, personal purpose, and the importance of genuine human connection in contrast to digital performance. Ultimately, the dialogue reflects a broader cultural shift—from traditional, face-to-face courtship to digital, performance-driven interactions—while advocating for balance, self-awareness, and meaningful relationships as foundational to a fulfilling life.

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The new podcast is called 'Don't Lie to Me,' featuring Lexi Juanu and Lisa de Julio.

You can listen to all the podcasts on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

The podcast explores a drama-filled situation where a man's life is threatened by a betrayal, and every piece of evidence points to a wrong person.

The podcast is set on a 30,000-foot flight, where a woman offers a scotch and a seemingly normal experience turns into something much more complicated.

The podcast examines the meaning behind numbers, exploring topics like why ice cream is expensive and the rise of platforms like Polymarket.

The discussion highlights that PDA can be seen as performative or overdone in public, especially due to social media, which has changed how relationships are displayed and perceived.

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