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Jill Scott Says This Was the Best Night of Her Life

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Jill Scott Says This Was the Best Night of Her Life

Jill Scott’s appearance on the show is a deeply emotional and personal moment, rooted in the enduring influence of her music on the host’s life. The conversation begins with a nostalgic memory of hearing her music in eighth grade, which sparked a lifelong connection and inspired the host’s own creative journey. Jill shares the pivotal moment she first performed a song in front of an audience at the House of Blues, describing how Prince and Stevie Wonder were present, and how the experience felt like a spiritual revelation—so powerful it awakened her to a new way of expressing herself through songwriting. She reflects on her life’s journey, including marriage, motherhood, and the challenges of midlife, emphasizing resilience and self-acceptance. The dialogue also explores the cultural significance of Black women’s experiences, framing her art as a love letter to Black women and a source of strength. Humor and personal anecdotes—like making homemade water ice and playing a game about personal traits—add warmth and intimacy. The episode blends personal revelation with broader themes of authenticity, self-growth, and the transformative power of art. Ultimately, it celebrates Jill Scott’s enduring legacy and the profound impact of her music on both personal and cultural levels, affirming that joy, pain, and growth are all part of a living, evolving life.

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Oh my God, so you don't know this. 'Cause, did you want me? This is the best night of my life. The night that you saw and heard that song for the first time. The first time that I ever performed it in front of people. I was in my dressing room after the show. Yes. Prince comes in. Stevie Wonder comes in. - Jill, Scott. - I promise you. This is my life. What is up, neighbors? We've got the one and only Jill Scott coming to the house today. This Grammy-winning singer, songwriter, actress, and poet has been given us classics for over 25 years. And earlier this year, she released her first album in more than a decade. And she's back on our screens with the new movie, "Why Did I Get Married Again?" And, y'all, we are rooting for Sheila. We need to win for Sheila, y'all. And, neighbors, I'm not even gonna act like this is a regular episode. Jill Scott has been one of my favorite artists I was in the eighth grade. Her music is a part of my story and so many different parts of my life. Her talent, her artistry, her spirit, her knowledge, is like a gift to us. And so, on the inside, no matter how this goes today, just know this is a dream come true for me. Let's get it. I have to say, I'm trying to be better about being in the present and just sitting right where you are, letting your body, your mind, your sight, your hearing, your taste be right where you are. And, baby, when I tell you I'm so glad I'm right where I'm at today, this Jill Scott. My God. - Hi. (laughing) - How are you doing? - Oh. - Right? - It's a lot. - But like, a lot of the best things. - Oh. - Right? - So good. - It feels that way. - Listen, I knew that when I turn this age, I'm 54 now. I knew that when I would get here, this would be my time. - You knew it. - I always wanted to be a auntie. I knew a lot of things, but I thought, oh, if I don't have the maturity and the age behind it, this wisdom is not gonna be taken seriously. I'll wait, and I'm 54 now, and I'm like, listen, I've been married twice. - Well, the worst twice, okay. I've had some life now, I could tell you some things. - Baby. - But you should know. - Well, listen, I'm so glad we are sad here today 'cause I'm ready to know, but before we get to it, you're a girl from Philly. - Yes. - Right, and hard. - I just got hip to water ice. - Yes. - And I figured I'd make you, you know, our best shot at a homemade water ice. - Seriously? - But I made it with rum, and I know you will. (laughing) - Ooh, let's go. - I know you love watermelon and coconut water, so I use that as my base. - God, you really gonna try it? - You know how to treat a girl. - You know what I'm saying? Yes, I love to try it. - Okay, well, let's do it then. Now, while I get journals to drink together, I've gotta thank Macy's for sponsoring this part of the episode. Y'all know the kitchen is the heart of the house. It's where I cook, it's where I host, and apparently, it's now where I make the slushies for Jill Scott. And with the fall coming, I'm doing a little refresh here in the kitchen, finding new things to make hosting even more fun. And Macy's has so many great appliances that make hosting a little bit easier. But y'all, I knew this ninja slushie was gonna be perfect for not getting together at the house. You just pour your little drink right on in here, and it freezes it. I call it slushes it. Look at this. Mm, mm, mm, mm, winning juice came out slushy. Ooh, wait. You know, Jill deserves more than a regular drink. You can get the ninja slushie at Macy's today and start your own fall refresh with Macy's home at macy's.com or at a Macy's near you. All right, let me finish this up for Jill. Now, I also have coconut cream 'cause I think I want it to be pretty. He's put coconut cream in, man. Look at what you've done. Okay, here we go. Bam. Oh, it smells so good. Right. You already know. Right? With a spoon goes like this and you start looking at it. I know when you took your lips in. That's how I always know. This is lovely. It is lovely to have you. Thank you for having me. It is, um, woo. I said, I was gonna wait to get emotional, but it might happen before then, 'cause it's just like, it's real. I think about the very first time I heard your music. I was in eighth grade. I was on a bus going to a black college fair. And I hear my name is J-I-L-L-L-S-E-O-T-T. Come on. Represent North-Hilly Yow. Come on. I was like, that's my name. And there was just something that was like, oh, this is for me. By the time I got home, I knew every song word for word. That music has stuck with me through incredible highs of my life, some hard challenges, obstacles in my life. And I've also been able to gift it to other people who mean so much to me in my life. My sisters know you, my mother knows you. And so I just imagined you must walk around all day with people being like, your music has changed my life. What is that like? I'm gonna just try my best not to be like giddy. Like, I literally don't have words for this level of my existence. Really? No, there's nothing. I mean, it's so delicious. It's so delicious because I've earned everything. And then to see this album after my first album, 26 years ago, and I'm listening to my first album and my second and my third and my fourth. And I was like, I was always arriving here. I've been reppin' North Philly since the beginning and here I am now. And I'm still reppin' North Philly. I love that I still have my heart. I love that I still know myself. I love that I'm still learning. I'm meeting beautiful people who are having beautiful existences at the same time as I am. And I am overwhelmed with fucking glaze. Yeah. I guess. It's literally, especially in a time like now. Where every message on the outside is telling you, there is nothing to be havegly about. There's nothing to be, yeah, be sad. Stay angry, yeah. Angry is good for the right reasons. Well, you have to put something behind angry. Just like you have to put something behind faith. Hello. You've got to put effort and energy into that thing. If you're angry, you can change that. Sitting around and talking about why you're angry is not helping anything or anybody. The life choices, baby, the angles that the life choices are coming from has just been magnificent. And they're hard, they're hard, they're not easy. Some people you got to cut off and step away from forever. That part. It's a lot of that, whatever it is. And sometimes it's your own people, like, meaning your family. Yeah. Mom, that sister, brother, no, this is the one life I get. And I wanted to be as blissful and joyful. I wish everything was easy. That's not how it is. I think that's not life. I'm not going to let you make it worse for me. No. Certainly. No. So go do you if you want to be mad and upset and stay in that, but I'm taking charge of now. I'm going to try. But you, you sound different though. You sound different though. I mean, the moment you open your mouth, I remember going to see you early 2000s and you were performing was the uncore performance after your concert. And it was a song you would come back out and sing and it was, and I heard. I remember listening to that in the audience for the first time. I never, it wasn't on, it wasn't on an album, it wasn't. You couldn't find it online. It's like the days of YouTube, we weren't recordings of them putting it on YouTube like that then. House of Blues. Yeah. And I was bawling. Because it was right on time, the things you were saying, you were like before each breath and out and in. And before that, I begin. Let your light shine. I'm the millisecond before the millisecond. It took you to think. What? I'm always with you. I am you. So you better, you better get to work. It's not a surprise to me that you would say. Oh my goodness. Wow. That's what I mean. Life changed. I have to explain. I don't have to, but I want to. I was minding my business. I was asleep. When that came to you. Yes. It woke me up. I said straight up in the bed. I went feeling around. I got some paper. The hotel. No, I had a book. I had a, a, what you call it, a composition book. And I just started writing and it didn't stop. I didn't have to, to question. I didn't have to go back and erase. I didn't have to do anything. It came out as a fluid 100 percent fact. Yes. Declaration. I was so moved, I said, "Okay, we have to, I'm gonna do this tonight." There was the first time the band had never heard it before. What? But nobody heard it before. You don't remember? So when you were doing the like, "I was telling them how it went." Shut the hell up. 'Cause I heard it all. I had goosebumps. I heard the whole thing, "Dunum." Dunum, dunum, dunum. Dunum, dunum. Donut, donut, donut, yay! - I heard the whole thing, the melody, everything. 'Cause you wouldn't. (laughing) Listen, this is the best night of my life, okay? The night that you saw and heard that song for the first time, the first time that I ever performed it in front of people, the first time I'd been heard it. - Yes. - And Prince comes in. - I was in a white pantsuit. It looked like it was made out of angel hair. (laughing) 'Cause it was. - The pants went, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Whenever he walked, what is happening? - What is happening? - What is happening? And everybody that's with him is all dressed in white. Fantastic, Prince is there, talking to Prince. Talking to Prince, it's crazy. And the people are in the driving, I mean, the parking lot outside of the house of Bloom. Still singing. ♪ Do you understand what you feel inside ♪ ♪ Dunna, dunna, dunna, dunna, hey ♪ Oh, hey, the parking lot is lit. - You see, I'm like this right now. - So Stevie Wonder comes in. - Jill, I promise you, you coulda, what? - This is my life. This is my life. Stevie Wonder comes in, and he says, hey, well, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. (laughing) - I'm about to out, I'm about to out. He's like, what's going on? And Prince is Jill singing a song, and it's a new song. Stevie Wonder was like, oh, how does it go? And Prince goes, dunna, dunna, dunna, dunna, dunna, dunna, dunna, dunna, dunna, dunna, dunna, dunna, dunna, dunna. So Stevie Wonder starts beatboxing. (barking) Right, right. So Prince, we're in a cipher now, all my band mind you. When Stevie walked in, he goes, oh, is that Prince? And Prince goes, hey, Steve. (laughing) Unbelievable. Hey, Steve. I was like, this is amazing. - This is crazy. - So now, Stevie Wonder's beatboxing, and Prince is singing this song, verbatim. - What? - How? - He just heard it, you performed it one time. - Prince is singing the words that came to me last night, like they came to him. He is singing it word for word. - Stevie Wonder's beatboxing, and Prince is singing this song. - And so what are you doing, Jim? What are you doing? - I think I just have my mouth open. I'm like, this is amazing. Then later on, after everybody leaves, Prince is assisting calls me. And she's like, Prince wants to hang out with you. I have to leave, 'cause we're headed to a new show. You know, this is when I traveled the way that I used to. I don't do that anymore. Residency's darling. - Hello. - Come see me. - Come see me. - Come see me, please. So I'm like, I can't hang out with Prince tonight. I have to, I gotta go to work. - Right. - And he calls again, and he calls again. You're coming, you know, finally, and he calls me himself, and he's like, I want you to come down with me. - What happened to you? - She was like, "No, I need it." - Okay. So I go to the Roosevelt Hotel. He has rented out this disco room in there, and that man twirled me around like I was nothing. When I say smooth, I mean, so smooth. - Do you see the whole room, we just all were like this. - Like I was nothing. I think I'm pretty sure he dipped me, like, and I went for it. If he's doing it, he's got me. - He got me. - We gonna see it. - And he did. - That's what I'm saying. - I dance with Prince Till 4 o'clock in the morning. - Prince Till 4 o'clock in the morning. - It was wonderful. - Come on. - And for some reason, I made him laugh. Whenever he laughed, he would fall back on the chair and kick his feet in the air. Mind you, he's changed his suit down. It's now red. - Because, you know. - Made out of, I don't know, zebra eyelashes. - I suck that. - And unicorn feathers. - Right. That's incredible. - That's my life. - That's incredible. - Love it. - I love it for you. - Thank you so much. - That's a great, I just want to say thank you for the song. I don't know. Don't get that. - I'm grateful for that song. What powerful thing to be able to express to people? - You seem to have a mystery of me. I am here to broach it. Who writes? Who says these words? - I am he who resides in everything growing and glowing. I am not one to try and hide. I am here and I show it. - No mistake, Satan is the father of lies, but I'm father to him and all of them. Do you understand what you feel inside? - Come on. - Do do do. Do do. Hey. Oh. Hey. - It's so good. Like right now. It's so good. I'm a vessel for this. - I'm so glad. - And I am too. - I'm so glad you listen. - Listen. - Listen. - Listen. - I'm going to get you some own notepads because I just feel like we can't be without that. - That's the obedience part. - Oh my goodness. - Because you don't know when it's going to come and you don't know how long it's going to stay. - Yeah. - It's a gift, not a given. - Kevin Friedrichs, known as Kevin Stage, I heard him say recently that he's sometimes as a creative. He feels like he's getting it directly downloaded from like a message from God. What he understands, what he sees as God, literally talking to him, saying this is what I want you to do. This is what's next. And it's disrespectful to the task and to him to not execute it, to not move on it. And so I'm just so glad. I'm so glad. This ad placement is paid for by Bath and Body Works. Their new reserve collection is designed to elevate your space with home fragrances that smell great and look even better. 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You're not breaking these. Mother got me very similar glasses from the thrift store. She paid a dollar a glass. I literally dropped a glass on the marble and it was like, what you gonna bring me out? Stuff was made better, most stuff was made to last lovely, it's a real glass. Tyler Perry. Go off Tyler. He said congratulations on your first home purchase. Too many more. Listen to many more. Catch me in the eye. Look, you know I was gonna get there. That's wonderful, right? He gives good gifts. I'm gonna tell you, the coolest gift to him is a handwritten note. Now I got to write him a little, say you spend the block trying to find something amazing for someone who literally has plans, yeah, amongst other amazing, beautiful things. Yeah. I like that. Yeah. I want to see more. I want to see the Turner's house. Right. I really do. Where was she? South, not South, this way. She was, you know, she was in Switzerland. With a garden in the back. You know what I'm saying? I miss my opportunity. I wish Maya Angelou and I are born on the same day. Okay. So we saw each other and I was like, what you doing for your birthday? And she was like, oh, I'm probably gonna be in bed and I was like, can I come? My plan was to be in my pajamas and be in bed with Maya Angelou all day. I got a job and I should have never, never took the thing. I thought I had more time. We always do, don't we? We think we had time. We don't know. But I'm also right in the smack of menopause. Oh snap. No running, no hiding. This is inevitable. This is what's going to happen. This is what's happening to me. It's happening to me and as much as I heard women, my elder women talk about what this was going to be, it's different until it's you. I don't know that I necessarily want to escape, but I feel like this is a part of a right of passage. I'm dealing with it not being able to sleep well, you know, being ravenous at three o'clock in the morning. Not like, oh, I need to, I'll just make a half of sandwich. Oh, I'll just have some fruit. No, I need a meal. I'm cooking. I'm cooking. I'm cooking. And three o'clock in the morning. Listen. I can't sleep again. But then I get a headache and I'm like, drink water, sure, sure, but you don't understand what's happening here. And then also there is a woman that lives inside me as she doesn't want to do a lot. And this woman tells me we're not doing that. Oh, and I said, but I need to. She says, we're not. I'm like, but I need to. I've never had to argue with myself like this. (laughing) Who invited you in for it? - Right, lady, I had things to do today. - How long are we gonna stay here? You're watching me, I'm in a caterpillar, I'm in a chrysalis. - Yeah. - I am about to become something else. - Come on. - I can feel it, I don't know what it is, but I'm excited for it, like, okay. - I feel like you have a lot of new in your life right now. And perhaps the next thing to experience that new is you. Message, wind chimes, they're never wrong, they're never on this show, they are never wrong. Message, when your environment sometimes has changed, when your circumstances, your life has changed, sometimes the last thing to change is literally your body, literally you, your thought processes, your choices, your chemistry. - It is not easy. I thought when this album came out, I thought when to whom this make concern comes out, that I'm going to be in such great shape because I have all these ideas that I need to implement. I'm gonna feel so good, I'm so ready, and I'm not. I'm in the middle of this thing that is happening to me, and it's real. - Wow. - So I have to remind myself, you pretty. Hey. - Gorgeous, actually. - Thank you. - You're good. Hey, I have to work that on a daily basis. Because it doesn't matter what the world says, it's what you believe for yourself. And I'm in the middle of a whole universe shift. So as much as I, you know, say that how gleeful I am, how joyful I am, I need people to also understand, there's another side of the thing that, as a human being, and as a woman, I have to work myself through these things too. I'm still in progress, and I'm also changing. There's an evolution happening, and I'm very excited to see what it is. - Wow. I'm thankful that you are open to even sharing the experience of that with other people with us, right? 'Cause like, there are a lot of people. - You don't wanna hear about no women. - Yeah, right. - Hmm, here by the way. - Show is a love letter to black women. It started for many reasons, but has one of its pillars of creation, and all that we do is a love letter to black women in particular. And so, absolutely, we wanna hear about black women. Yeah, do I need to get to the movie that you are here to talk about as well? - Sure. - Do I wanna play the game that we've prepared? - Sure. - But am I going to step in the way of you declaring the moment I find myself in right now, especially after we started this conversation by saying I wanna sit in the moment, in the present, and then rob us of that experience, and I honor that. - Absolutely not. - When y'all first met the cast of Why did I get married? We were what in our 30s, right? So now we're in our 50s. So every woman that you see is going through a similar thing that you, that we're all responding to differently. It's not a highlight, it's a fact. - Interesting. - This is a more mature cast. - Right. - You know, this is Sheriff Troy and Sheila have lived some, since you've seen them. They have lived. They're married. So that means that they have some obstacles and they have some things to get through, and they're different, and they still love each other. - Right. - Still, here he come another one. I hope you enjoy it. - I also love the looks that have evolved from the very first movie. - A poor Sheila. - You know what I mean? Through the second movie, and now in the third, some additions to cast and things like that. What was it like to get everybody back together? And the addition of some new energy, certainly new energy because we're growing as people. But like new people. - I think Tyler did an excellent job at putting us in a beautiful place. I don't wanna say where, but we all ended up around beautiful mountains and beautiful water. And put us all together in this place and gave us time to get to know each other. - Just to be. - Come on. - That worked. So by the time we started shooting, everything felt good and real. The young man that plays my son, I ended up hugging and kissing on the boy. I didn't mean to. I was like, "Wah, you know why things just started." - You need some much money? - No, just right. - It became very, very, very natural for all of us. - Wow. - Yeah. - That's incredible. - It's a different way of shooting anything. - You know what I mean, don't get that? - This new-- - You get like a couple days. - Yeah. Yeah, we got days. At some point, I was like, "Well, you're on home." (laughing) - You ever have enough vacation? - Well, I have-- - Actually, yes, I have. - In the middle of a trip, which is short, and then a vacation, which is about two weeks, and then there's a holiday. Sometimes in between that two and three week mark, one supposed to be this long, right? We could do something else. - Either way, it was a great experience. - I'm so excited. - I was so curious to how he shot things. He shoots things like I've never seen before. I've worked a lot. - Yeah. - And I've never seen anything like that. I can't wait for it. - I can't look at that. - I want to see what the people say. - I said, "Netflix, can you send me the screener?" They were like, "No, we're not sending screeners yet." - I haven't looked at it. - You haven't. - No. - So you'll see it before me. - Yeah, I hope so. That's how I want to see it. You know, take the hits, right? In the scene, you know? - Oh, Sheila, please, Sheila. Before we get to the game, I just have to ask you about Tasha Smith. She's everything I think, right? - She's everything you think she is. I love that woman. - I love her. - Now you're going to get, "I love that woman." Tasha is from the bottom. She's from Camden. I'm from North Philly. You know, we connect on that level. We have seen some things, okay? And to be here, honey, Tasha, Tasha's, just got a wonderful deal with Netflix. They were very excited about as a director. Since it's growing and moving, like her spirit is powerful. - Yes. - How you think she loves, she loves like that. - I believe it. Solid, I ain't gonna call her nothing. She's going, but she likes that. I don't like to be called a bitch. But she does. That's a solid bitch. - But she does, and that's where she's a solid bitch. - She's a solid bitch. - I do want to play a game with you. A little get to know you situation. - I love games. - Okay, so in the spirit of, why did I get married again? We're playing a little game. You know, marriages typically, what are they saying for better or for worse? - Yeah. - So we have some situations here, maybe personality traits, character traits, that come up and we're going to say, if we do, or if we don't. - I love games. - Okay. - Yes. - So guess first. - Can I get another hit? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why you go ahead? I'm gonna go ahead. I need one of those. That's nice. - Right? - Saint Jill won Ninja. - Come on, Ninja. - Someone who doesn't vote in elections. - Yeah, I can't. - What you doing? I mean. - On Tuesday, what did you have to do? - Do something. - Vote. - Do something. - I didn't say you had to go vote. Go out and raise money or knock on the vote. - I mean, would that be nice? - Yeah, but you got to. - If you're about that. - People died so that we could. I need you to go ahead. - Yeah, I know people say it doesn't mean anything. And I honestly don't know that it does. - But they died and they looked just like me. And they died because they couldn't so that we could. So I'm gonna. - And walked and waited and waited and waited and got sent to another place and another place and another place and yeah. - I'm gonna do it. - Oh, okay. Someone who doesn't like PDA. - Oh. - Nope. Listen, all we got. - You don't like PDA. You're just an indicator. There's other things that I like that you don't like. - I think it's an indicator that you're hiding something. - Ooh, yeah, 'cause why can't you kiss me? - I mean, we kiss in private. I mean, we still us out here. What's the problem? That's not your person. - No. - Never. - Unless it's like a, you know, if they're like a germaphobe or something, I don't know. You know, I don't know. Some people's OCD. How it works, you know. - How you gonna be with a germaphobe? - I couldn't. No, literally. I'm too dirty. (laughing) - Okay, here's one. Someone who has cheated in past relationships. - Okay, can we ask another question? Was it the reason you're no longer in the last relationship? 'Cause that's a, I don't. But if you did before and you know the impact of that and you don't wanna ever be that again, I could. - It's not really about the act. - Right. - It's about what happened before, after, and then between. - Where are you now? - What's your character? - Yeah. - Now. - Exactly. - Who are you today? - I'm couldn't say I don't. (laughing) And he said, "No." - Yeah, I'm gonna say I don't because I definitely have been cheated on. - It didn't destroy me, I mean. - Right. - But it agitated me, yeah. - And it's something that operates in the background. - You went through a lot to be deceptive. I don't like that. I've also cheated. - So where does that fall? - Well, that's serious. - I mean, maybe somebody wouldn't date me. - Possibly. - It takes a lot for me to one cheat. And I will say that. I have written the letters, it's letters in your pocket. I have wrote the song. I have told you multiple, multiple, multiple times. I've left little notes on the mirror. I've done everything that I know to do to communicate with you what the issues are. - Right. [BLANK_AUDIO] I just might, you know, come out. And then we're already broken up. - We're already. - Exactly. - We're good. - Now the rest is the formality. - Yeah. - It's a wrap. - Yeah. - Hey, one let you know today's my last day. - Yep. (laughing) - You know what I'm saying? The sex part or the hook up part, the other person part is not so much the thing as much as the us part in the cheating. This game you play with, you end up playing with yourself. - I don't want that. - No. - Either we can open this thing up and we both go play, or we not. - Let's talk about it like grown up. - You said? - 'Cause we grown. - 'Cause what we doing. - And it's not gonna destroy either of us, but why waste the time? Why waste the time? You don't want what I want, and I don't want what you want. Why we waste some time? - My granddad is here to me the other day. - I don't know. - I hope you're doing your favorite thing to do. - Mmm. - I said what you said. - He said I hope you're doing your favorite thing to do. 'Cause this, she did. - We about to wrap this up. - Well. - You're doing your favorite thing to do. - I heard somebody say something really good that it isn't the end of the world. It's the end of man. You know, the particular ways and things have been running, the pollutants and the, like, it's the fool. What are we, what are we? - Eating. What is it? - I don't know. - Ooh, okay. Someone who is bad with money. - I won't say never I have. - It was a mistake. - Exactly, we don't want to. - I don't. - Don't do the same dumb shit. - Unless. - You got so much of it, it don't matter. Like you, the one who's not good with it. - You're not gonna have a long. - I mean, we can have some fun, then. - Oh. (laughing) - Me. - We can have some fun, then. - Nice time is a nice time. - We can do the loop. - But I mean, could you be with that person? - No, I'll spend your shit, that's what I'm saying. (laughing) - Spend your shit, absolutely, spend it. - My turn. Someone who loves true crime. - Intralled. - Really? Okay, but is it like just like you're just watching it, right? Like you're not like obsessed with true crime. - No. - Because the people obsessed with true crime scared me. - Oh, no, no, no. - Because I figured you're planning something. - No, I just like that. - There's a documentary on Netflix right now about the Idaho murders, the man who just walked into these kids' apartment and just stabbed them today. - I didn't watch that. - It's crazy. - I think there's a part of me that wants to know how crazy people can be. So I can be mindful and aware, like check that energy. I saw a guy's eyes, his eyes was doing this. I was like nah. (laughing) - It could have been that man's affliction. I don't know. - Be the way. - But they had never done that before. I've seen him, I've said something he didn't like. And those eyes went to get to get to get to get to get there. I was like nah, nah, I'm out. - Wait, so how did you get out of a moment like that? - Oh, you're back out slowly. - Hey, all right. - Okay. (laughing) - I'll see you. - This is my bag. What did I do with my bag? - I'm going. - This message is a paid partnership with Apple Card. Listen, the summer may be coming to an end, but my travel plans are still in full effect, whether I'm in Miami or Monte Carlo, Indianapolis or Ibiza. I never have to worry about what's in store because I've got one travel companion that always has my back. My Apple Card, it's accepted anywhere in the world. Nice or card is accepted. And I can earn up to 3% daily cash back on all of my purchases using Apple Card with Apple Pay. But that's not all. Apple Card has no fees. You heard me. No annual foreign transaction late or over the limit fees. No fees ever, which means my vacation stays over the top. Apply in the wallet app on iPhone today. Subjected credit approval, variable APRs for Apple Card range from 17.49% to 27.74% based on credit worthiness. Rates as of July 1st, 2026. Existing customers can view their variable APR in the wallet app or at card.appl.com. Subjected credit approval, Apple Card is issued by Goldman Sachs Bank USA Salt Lake City Branch terms and more at applecard.com. - Someone who shows their love through actions versus words. They do the stuff, they can't necessarily say the stuff. - With all my heart. - Really? - With all my heart. - Oh, I struggle with this. - No, show me. - But I also need to hear it. - I asked my man to write me a poem. I think I must have laughed for about 36, 7 minutes. (laughing) - I won't ask him to write me a poem again. - What is that, what is that, what is it? - You said okay. - You said you know what, I love you for it. - You did it, but you did it. - He did it. - He did it. - He did it. - 'Cause he could have just been like, nah, a girl, I'm gonna build you a car. - My man's motto is I show you better than I tell you. - I hear that. - Yep. - That might have to do more with me than it does my partner. - What do you think that comes from? That you have to hear the words. - I think it's how I communicate. When we talk about love languages, people often talk about how you communicate love, not how you receive love, right? Communicating is a two-way street. It's not just about what you do, but it's also about how you receive. I try my best to be considerate and aware, intentional with the words that I use and how I speak to people and the words that I use in relation to people. And then I want you to do the same thing with me. - Well, would you rather have someone who speaks well and could communicate all their emotions, but not do the things that mean the words. - I think that's why I was saying I was like, I kinda want both. - I don't know. This age tells me that I need, you just show me, it's delicious. Like literally, I'm gonna bite you. I'm gonna bite you so hard, 'cause I'm gonna bite you so hard, 'cause I don't know what else to do. You're actually doing all the things that I really deserve. Like you're kind of me regularly. Like you're not playing so thoughtful, so loving, patient, fun. Like, oh my God, I'm my person. - Okay, so with that said, you know, welcome to the house. - It's awesome. - We have some food I wanna get to, but right before we get to the food, I wanna know what your house rule is. What's one rule in your house? - I've got obsidian by my door, so you can't-- - Just don't. - Yeah, you can't really be coming in there with negative energy, so that's that. - Oprah used to have a sign on her dressing room, I think it was, to be careful of the energy you bring beyond this threshold. - I don't even say anything. I just put obsidian on the side of the door and pray. I'm coming here with that, you can't. You won't be able to stay, you can get sick. Something's gonna happen. - So I'm coming, we gotta go. - Yeah, the phone's ringing, you gotta go to the dinner, you're not staying in here. - Wow, so you can get some obsidian, okay? - I'm clear. (laughing) - Like what is my rule in the house? - Oh. - Yeah, the sky's house rule. - No pork. - Really? - Don't bring that in my house. - What was the last time you had a piece of bacon? - Mm-hmm. I went off of it because I went to a farm and I was like, "I should have never saw that." (laughing) - I should have never saw that, it's true. Can they grow the bacon in a lab, can they please? - Oh, I shouldn't have saw that. - Woo. - And I stopped eating pork for like eight years. And then I went to Hawaii and there was a beautiful, Hawaiian man with no shirt on and some grass panties or whatever. (laughing) And the man tan a slab of bacon like that. And he put it on the grill and drizzled it in honey. And I was like, "Ugh!" (laughing) And I ate it every day for three weeks. - Yeah. - I ate it. - Yes you would. - I didn't get sick, but I think it's where you get it from. - Oh, America. - Yeah. - No, no, just-- - I think, I mean, Hawaii is America, but they hold themselves to a certain standard. - Absolutely. - So I don't mess with it here, but if I'm overseas, I might, don't worry about it. - Are you adventurous with food? - I would say yes. I was in Botswana shooting the number one ladies detective agents. - Come on. - And they were-- - Also, you're accenting that. I don't know how you-- - You and a Nika Noni Rose. Y'all ate that all the way up. - Thank you. We had a group of elder women, particularly around me. Beautiful with lots of hair on their chin. And I got them. I got them. (laughing) And so they let me in. I was like, "My God, you've done so good here." And it's like, "I like it." I'm like, "Yeah, I'm getting everybody tweezers." (laughing) They would be around me. And if I said a word wrong, they would all go, and I would hear that sound. I'm like, "Oh, we have everything just one more take. Just one more take. How do I say it?" And then when I get it right, I would hear them say after the take, "My gang!" - It takes a whole-- - Is there a phrase that locks you into it? Is there a phrase like, you know, like some people say there's a sentence that if they can say there's sentence, it will remind them of the things they need to activate the accent. - If I start speaking about Botswana, it'll come back to me. I think the word that troubled me the most was Kilo Kulela, which is a place. She's down there and Kilo Kulela. And I was like, "Kilo Kulela. " I'm like, "Damn it! Kilo Kulela!" I'm like, "Damn it!" I think that's like that word is down and then there. And then over instead of over. We worked really diligently to get that accent. We wanted to represent Botswana in the best way. They were kinda me and put me on a postage stamp. - Come on! What? - This is my life. - You're on the stamp? - I'm alive. - I know that's right. Well, you were talking about food there. - Oh, Sashway is really good. - What's that? - It's like chopped up. Beef like you have at a barbecue or something. Okay. Okay. It's really really good I would say the steak is the best I've ever had in my life. Is that right? Really really amazing But cattle which stand there in your face. I'm five seven. How you looking me in my cow. What kind of cow is this? They just go and travel all over on their own Until somebody rings the bell and then they all come back. They are free range for real literally. No for real So the meat is like incredible. Are we ready? What are we eating? We a little tie I also got you a tuna milk because you know this in case that's what you own it. All done. Thank you friend. Let's do it Welcome to the back yard stunning look at your aloe come on succulad You know what I'm saying when I walk back here. I was like, oh, this is where I'm gonna live. It's wonderful I'm supposed to be sitting down. I know. She said I got to look around. Oh my gosh And there's a chance. This is beautiful Come on life. Come on life This is life. This is my life. It's your life. I live like this. This your life. It's crazy You came to a concert at the house of blues Some 20 years ago. Very many years ago and saw me and I'm in the backyard Which is succulents crazy and it's a succulent good time Hello part of this is also crazy because in my mind. I needed a redo. I needed a redo I don't know why do you think that if you'll remember this interaction my mother Introducing us at Tyler Perry's Studio opening so years and years and years ago. I'm taking this acting class. I'm studying to be an actor From Burt Reynolds. Wow. He traveled to Indiana for the acting class. We were charged with doing a Manalog, right? It's really good. It's good. Yes, it is good. It's really good You see why I wanted you to have some time. Oh my god. I was like I wanted to experience this time food is so good I still need you to go to the tie diner. I'm going in New York. I'm going. Tell me call me I'm gonna get you in there. I gotta have your number. Yeah, you're gonna get it Call me I'm gonna get you in there. It ain't easy. You're gonna love it. You're in a good word for me So I'm in this acting class with Burt Reynolds and the last one to go up and I decide instead of doing one of the Choices from a Manalog book that they had provided I instead performed love rain My scene was I was being interviewed I'm this is actually making me taking my birth away a little bit because I'm realizing now that the Kind of parallels in this those folded moments we talked about earlier in this made-up scene I've created for Burt Reynolds in this class I'm being interviewed about my first hit and I'm using your lyrics to the song that I love so much as My dialogue and so you know the the song starts with a meta on a Thursday Some afternoon cumulus clouds 84 degrees. She was brown and deep Said she want to talk about my mission Listen to my past lives Word And so I can't believe I just did that with you right now. I'm like Who I can't believe anybody? You know just you get it. Yeah, do anybody who we were talking about this earlier How I would write down the lyrics to rock him just to him ramen. I would I would write them down and study them and The concept that somebody wonderful somebody young somebody old somebody In the middle of any portion of life It's thinking about these lyrics and Incorporating them into their life and then their wonderful experiences. I'm so grateful. Thank you so much for sharing there with me I cannot believe this connection Oh my god, you mean to tell me that I'm somebody It's very special very special to me to someone special It's crazy. I don't know. I need a minute um well while you take it I'm gonna tell you so he walks over to me the clap I ended the finish the song This is my life Kind of it's ours. Oh my god From inside here because there's nobody in here with me, you know There's nobody in here with me. So this is how I look at it like yeah I'm I'm not trying to not affirm you know, I understand that but I'm bugged out every day that this is this is this is my life This is what I get to do this Is how I get to affect Oh my god, and you're so beautiful to me. You share my work with your mom You think about these things that I wrote Thank you Thank you This is something I'm sorry and I cut you off I'm sorry No, it's okay. No, it's absolutely okay. I what I tell you I understand I understand I'm just so glad that we got to do a redo Help I finished the the monologue everyone else who finishes there's this intense applause and Three people kind of give some feedback and then Bert usually says maybe something four or five people got notes from Bert specifically the room is silent when I finish and I'm like Fuck that not make the right call and Bert Reynolds stands up. He walks over to me the room is still silent. He walks over to me I'm standing at this point and he puts my hand his hands around my face. I need you to understand You got to get the fuck out of Indiana. He was like there are no notes He said I saw the whole thing. I saw the woman. I saw the hot summer day What do you need in order to go and I said I don't live in L.A. I live in I live in Indiana I don't live in L.A. He said what do you need in order to go? I said well, I need a job and I don't have a manager I don't have an agent. He said I'll make sure that you have representation when you get there and you have somewhere to work To make some money When can you leave? I was like I don't know Bert. This is this is crazy But Reynolds Bert Reynolds we in the class and he says I don't do this But I feel like if you don't go now you may never go. So whatever you need you call me and he gave me his number And he set me up with an agent and a job and the flight to Los Angeles And so when I my first time in L.A. was set up with this energy and this intention through this experience And so my mom knows all of this right cut back to Tyler Perry's studio opening in Atlanta We see you my mom has had a couple margaritas nice And she said that's Joe Scott. No, it ain't shut up. Shut up. My mom look look. They're gonna Oprah. She's like, but that's Joe Scott We need to go say hello to her. I was like no, mom. I'm you can go say hi. I'm gonna. I'm just gonna stay right here I don't want to I'm okay. She's gradually in the hand We walked directly over to you and I was like mom and she was like excuse me. Excuse me. Miss God. Hmm This is my son. He did one of your songs as a monologue do it for I said my as a mommy you said Well, I'm sorry. What you said he did one of your songs as a monologue do it for and then you looked at me and you were like well And I was like Man on a Thursday I Remember being like I cannot believe this is the first time I'm meeting Joseph Scott And this is how it is going down and you were so sweet There were people who were trying to get your attention to to quiz. We were walking through and you were like You keep doing this and then you hug me and then you know Of course the madness of all that we walk away and I was like ma But I've always thought if we get an opportunity to do this again I want to be able to tell her why my mom responded that way why she knew It was really important that we meet and that you know that story because here I am now living in my sandwich I'm just in this home living the life that I get to live as a result of many things but Surely also the impact that your artistry has made on our lives and I think that is any artist you'd want to know How real that is and you have my house? That's crazy Trying to find other words crazy. Don't really know crazy. It's just out. I just However willy nilly all over the place. No, this is divine intervention all of all of these occurrences to make this moment In our lives right because this is our life. I think every bus driver that waited for me Because I didn't want to run I Think Everybody who came to my low poetry show you know, and spent their $14, $15 to support Miss Fran Daynish who never responds to any of my emails. Fran Daynish, I just, wherever you are, you taught me eighth grade English, and I just want to, again, say, think, "I thank you in my book," but you didn't respond, "Lady, thank you for giving me Nikki Giovanni, you changed my perspective." And she made me read in front of everybody. She would take off her shoes and get comfortable anytime I read. - Go ahead, go ahead. - Shhh. - Me? - Yeah. - This is the best life I've ever had. - It's only getting better. - My goodness. - You see it in the art that you're creating, you know? - People are gonna be sick of me, and I think, "Well, fuck you." - Yeah, I don't know what to tell you. - Fuck it. I don't know what to tell you if you're sick of this, and you're like, "Oh, she's only soon happy." I saw somebody on the internet that was like, "She smiles too much." - Baby, it's so much a smile for and about. - And about. - It's a beautiful existence. - Does someone have to see my pains in order to appreciate my joys? My pains are private. I deal with them. So I can come out whole and happy and move in forward so it can inspire other people. I mean, it's a good gig. - Yeah. - And you're gonna give me some money for it? - Right. - And I can take validation. Buy stuff that I need to help people get through school for the last 20 years. Thank you very much. - That part. - I love that part. I'm able to do a lot of great things. I do dope shit on the regular, and I'm very, very, very grateful to do it. I don't ever take it for granted. This is fly. - I love you so much. - I love you too, and I'm so proud of you. - I love to see it, living all the way fully, completely, wholly yourself. - And then the audacity, this plan, without a plan, maybe, maybe not. The journey that you've taken has all led you to right here, and you look beautiful. Sitting in your backyard with this multicolored fabulousness lawn. - Skin glowing, hair cut to perfection, dyed, blonde, and joyful in your heart. - I'm happy for you. - Yep, and I want more of it. You deserve more of it, regardless of what anybody says. Regardless. Fuck them people. - Fuck them people. - Fuck them people. We're water. - We're water. - I say, I mean, I'm in. - Truthfully. Truthfully. Okay, we as too hot. You ready to go inside? Okay, let's do it. - Woo. - Oh my God. My God, on today. - I love it. - Woo. - Woo. - No. - Okay. I am so glad to have you here. - I love games. - Okay, so this one's called "Make It Makes Sense." - Woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo. Okay, so we've got some acronyms for popular or often used phrases or sayings. You'll buzz in if you think you got it, and if you get it right, you get to place a letter at our overall game puzzle. - Is this our first one? - It's our first one. - D-pay. - D-pay. - E-R. - E-R. - That was just kid. It was a celebration. - See, I'm thinking duh. "Don't play around you English Embassy or bust." "The Sputant Paragraphs" arrived yesterday. - Yes. (laughing) - Ethiopians, I-O. (laughing) Obama business. - Yeah. - That's, that's like Westside guns rap. - That's what it sounds like. - No. - Okay, do we have a hint? What's our hint? - Never bet everything you have on one option. - Don't put all your eggs in one basket. (dinging) - That was good. - How'd you do that? - Yeah, yeah, yeah, you weren't supposed to. (laughing) - It was a game. - Okay. (dinging) - Yes? - Ta-da. - Okay, okay, okay. - Okay, okay, okay. - Ah! (laughing) - Okay, here we go. - Ooh, motherfucker. - That's what I think. (laughing) - Out of my, out of my face. - That was a good one, that was a good one. Okay, could it be out of my feelings? - No, out of my fuck. (dinging) - That's what I thought. - Out of my, I thought out of my face was good. - I thought so too. - One of my favorites. (dinging) - One of my favorites. (dinging) - Okay, no. - One of my face. - Family. - One of my friends. (dinging) - I said friends. (dinging) - I thought she wasn't good at this game. - I'm not. - When I'm watching her give you the answer. (laughing) (dinging) - Low H. (dinging) - All right, there we go. - I'm guessing that's gonna be a word. - Can we just skip to that one? - All right. (ding) - The. - Next word. (ding) (ding) - Quick over, tellin' 'cause. (ding) - Quick. - Wallet seat over. - The couch. (ding) (laughing) - Why it on the creek? - No. - Is it? - You got a-- - Oh! - You got a. (ding) - Why it on the creek? - The P. (ding) - Nope. (ding) - Okay. - See, you can move it to another one. - Okay. (ding) (ding) (laughing) - And there we go, you three, see? - Dang! - Yeah. - Quiet on the creek. (ding) Quiet on the creek. (ding) - Okay, what's this? - (ding) - Let me let me let me let me along. - Living my life like it's gold and-- (ding) - You got a bus. (ding) (laughing) See, I just-- I don't-- - So here's the thing. We started this game and you were like, I'm not good at this. Were you messing with me? - I think you're messing with me. - No! - Do you still love this thing, Matt? - Yeah. - Do you? - Yeah. - 'Cause I just wondered, are there songs that you're like, woo, if I don't ever sing that one again, I'll be good. - It is a song that I'm like, oh, I'm singing it. I hate to say it, but I was in a bad place when I wrote it, so I don't like to sing it. - Really? - So yeah, I don't like that girl. - Do you still perform it? - No. I listen to it every now and then. (laughing) - What is it? - What is it? - You really want to know? - I do want to know. - It's called My Love. - You don't like that song? - Mm-mm. - I was doing some things I shouldn't have been doing. And that is exactly when I met Nisi Mesh. I met her at the airport and she was like, oh, what you doing, you about to do something, you just about to do something bad. And I was like, ah. (laughing) - But I tell you, Nisi Nash be knowing, she be knowing. - She does. - And she's one of the sweetest kinders. I just saw her yesterday. - Thanks. - Like, sweetest kind. She calls it, she's like-- - She's in cheerful, loving. - I don't have a baby shower. Nisi showed up with a whole bunch of stuff that people gave her and beautiful things. - She's the best. - She is. - Living in life like this other. - She knows how to work these spaces, too. - Yes, she does. Is that it? - Dang. - Okay, you got one more. - Two is no, he-- (laughing) - Hi, he-- (laughing) - So, it's not so, (dinging) sweet face, she's like, oh. - She's never, I wanna give it to you, but no. - Neighbors, Aspen, half my life sitting in this vehicle, driving the studio, sitting in traffic, getting the car washed, sitting in traffic. Driving an events or dinner, sitting in traffic. (dinging) But thank God I can listen to audio books on Amazon Music Unlimited to get me through it. And right now I'm listening to "Becoming" by Michelle Obama. And let me tell you, her voice is so soothing, too, 'cause like, imagine me getting ready to go off on the car that just cut me off, and then suddenly you hear in surround sound, mind you, when they go low, we go high. Michelle, we are becoming who we're meant to be, but I'm not there yet, but it just lifts you up. And that's what I love about audio books. You can be driving, working out, even cleaning your house, and suddenly all that time that's passing, feels like it's giving you something back. And with an Amazon Music Unlimited subscription, now you get access to audio books, too. So, that's music, podcasts, audio books, all in the one app. Amazon Music, get into it. (dinging) (upbeat music) Is you cool? If you come out of the you-come-see. The hotel, if you come. Good, or took a good took. What's our hint? I think this. Your hint is if a task is too hard or stressful, you should leave. If you could see the hell. If you could see the hell I've been through. You could see the look on your face right now. (laughing) See the, is it, you could see the? It's not the- If you can't salistize your name. (laughing) If you can't see the- You can't stay. Go over there. Kathy. (laughing) If you can't stay- - You get the fuck out of the kitchen. (bell rings) - Ah! - If you can't stand the heat, get the fuck out of the kitchen. - Okay, okay. - Get out of the kitchen. - You put some letters up there. Let me see what you do. What's this? (laughs) What is it? What is this? - Is it the or is that not right, too? - The, hmm, none, no. - What? - What's going on? - The blank blank. (bell rings) - Yeah, yeah! - Okay, next one. (bell rings) (bell rings) - Head, bitch, in charge. - That's a good one. - HBIC. - I figured you might not know that one 'cause you don't like to wear a bitch, but I feel-- - Ah, I mean, I like it when it's apropos. (laughs) - I mean, that's a bitch right there. - Right. But not just that's my bitch. - Very rarely. - I hear that. ♪ We should have some cheese with this ♪ ♪ The blank, it's not, it's not ♪ - Okay, next one. - Anybody want it? - Please. (bell rings) (laughs) - Anybody want it, please. - Anybody want it? - Oh, oh. - White in this place. Oh yeah, all white in this place. (bell rings) That would have been crazy if that was right. - Oh, way, it-- - Always in the problem. - A woman in the process. (laughs) - A, wonderful, intense-- (laughs) - They're a puning party. It's also related to a song of yours. - A song of mine? - Oh, I know this. - I've quieted this, just get along. - I'm just gonna say, I'm like-- - Whoa, oh! - What is it? - Sorry, sorry sounds. - What is it? - A walk in the park. - That's not a song of mine. - No, a long walk. - Yeah, but that's a walk in the park. - Yeah. - I don't care. - It's close. - You're winning. - You're winning! - The-- - A walk in the park. - Two-or. (bell dinging) - The gist, no. (bell dinging) - He's still jealous, I don't know if that's that. - I need that. - This was kind of related and then it has one of the words of one of your songs. You took a break from music. - Yes, I took a break, I had to take a break. I got a kid and it was that weird age, you know? Respectfully, like it was just weird. - Yeah, you know, stuff happening. - He wasn't glowing, he wasn't shining, and that's what I do, like I like all my stuff to glow. I like all my things to grow, and he wasn't, and I hated it. I was like, okay, let me pull back and find out what to do. We tried several different schools, the schools weren't working, none of it. And then I happened to know someone amazing, Sharon Green, and called her, I said, he's not glowing, what is, what's up? She said boarding school. - Really? - Yeah, and I was like, "Black people don't know more of this school." And she was like, "Yes, we do." And I got an opportunity to travel and see some schools and we went together and it's been amazing. - Really? - It's been amazing for him. It was a very good choice because at this particular time, he got a chance to immerse himself in his education and it was all on him. The stakes are high, brother, it's up to you. And he's blossomed. He's someone that I like and respect, like I kick it with him. He's really, really incredible. There's the list is long and extensive, really, of all the things that he's been able to do. - And the glow is bad. - When he was little, it was there. But school had made him feel I believe that he wasn't smart enough. We went to a couple of schools here, and then, well, two schools here, and then a couple of schools in Tennessee. I didn't like it, I didn't like it for him, and I didn't like the way he felt. I needed him to believe in himself. He went off to boarding school and came back this responsible. I don't, you mean, I don't have to ask you to wash. This is just washing them. - Right. - We're waiting in the waiting room. - We, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, right. - I was on the phone. I just went to the other room and I come back and the kitchen is clean. Oh, wait, so you're like really grateful as well. Oh, yeah. (laughing) Very, very, very good decision. - What was the thing that got you back in the studio? - Was there a sound? Was there a song? Was there the absence of something that you were like, "Oh, it's time." - I kept getting invites. DJ Premier invited me to his studio. I went and worked with him. That was fun. Then David Banner invited me, and I was like, okay, I'll go to Atlanta, and I'll work with him. They're guys that I really like. You know what I mean? And musicians that I really respect, and they were just asking me to come and work with them. I was like, this feels good. I'm gonna keep recording. And then I looked up and I had more songs that I knew what to do with. I'm going to focus. I'm going to make an album because this is a lot. And I think this is quality work, okay? So let me just get to it. - Yeah. - You're going to be singing these songs for the rest of your life. - I intend on it. When you're a song writer or a singer, these are the songs that you sing for the rest of your life. - Yeah. - So they have to be impactful to you too. So other people can connect with them when you perform live. - We sure we have all the letters? (laughing) - That's what I'm saying. - Fuck that bitch. - The. - Right there. - That's not fuck that bitch. - That's gotta be fuck that bitch. - That's fuck that bitch. - Freedom balls. (laughing) - Is freedom balls? - Freedom balls. - Uh. - Freedom breath. - Feel the butter. - Feel the beat. - Oh, that was good. - That means it. - Can you feel the beat? - My heart. - In the beef. - In the dark. - Forget them. - Bitches. - Forget them, bitch. - Forget them, bitches. - Forth. - The. - Threw. - What's up? - Wait, actually, pause this for a second. You may not wanna talk about this. - What? - When I think about friends through the beef, I've watched recently the Dave Chappelle Black Party. - Erica Badu is on stage. And you are watching her perform. And one of the documentarians, one of the producers, asked me-- - Oh, my last nerves. - Ask you if you were nervous. - Yes. - As to say, were you intimidated by Erica Badu perform? - Yes. - And you turned to him and said, "Have you ever seen me perform?" - You were supposed to have a topic to discuss. Everybody had to think of something that a platform that they wanted to speak on. - Some watching everyone talk about whatever political thing or spiritual thing they want to talk about. He got to me and the guy is like, he was French. And he's like, "Isn't Erika Badoody Most Beautiful Girl in the world?" And I said, "She's very beautiful." - Isn't Erika Badoody Most Amazing Singer you've ever heard? I said, "She's really amazing." He's into Erika Badoody. And I was like, "Mother fuckers." - My name is Joseph Scott. - I'm pretty sure. - Right. - That you're supposed to be asking me about a topic or a platform that I want to talk about. So that's why I said what I said. Because I was like, "You don't even know who I am, do you? You mustn't." - You mustn't. - You mustn't. - I've heard her since talk about you and that time before that when the song came out. - Mm-hmm. - And the Grammy and all that stuff. And how she was operating in a way was kind of in the dark. - And how you both were in a dark. - Really? - Yeah, yeah, we didn't know. You know, we talked about this so much over the years. - Yeah. - She didn't know that someone else had written it. I think she thought maybe the root had. I didn't know that I wasn't singing it. So I heard it on the radio on the street. And that part came and it was Erika Badoody. And I promise you, I had about maybe 36 seconds with that long where I was disappointed and then it occurred to me. - Erika. (laughing) - Erika, about this. - Erika Badoody was singing what you wrote. - Right. - Man, my chest's well up. - Right. - I was walking down 22nd Street like y'all don't even know. I'm on. - You don't even know. - This is happening for me right now. Then I had a fish fry when the Grammy's happened and I invited everybody over. I made call of greens. I made some trout, fried trout. - What? - And coalslaw. And we all sat there watching the Grammy's. And they won. - Yes, right? - You won. - Right? It's amazing. - That worked out. - Yeah. - It worked out. - The part that I was going to bring up was not even necessarily that historical part. But I've since heard her talk about you two getting to know each other. And one of the things she said about you was like, she's such an incredible woman. She's such an incredible friend. She's such a great mommy. - A lot of things. - And it was just like to me, like it's one thing that friends through the beef, like these situations that were almost kind of like primed for you to be at odds. - Huh. - And you seemed to just refuse to succumb to that lower vibration. at least. least in the long term. - And you see how I worked out that after all of these years, we're still here and we're here together. You see how that works out? You know, I think that the industry will really try to pitch you against each other because they think or the idea is that there can only be one. And that is true. There can only be one Erica, but I do. There can only be one Shaka Khan. There can be only one Whitney Houston. There could be only one Diana Ross. Only one Nina Simone, only one. I don't know what that is. But it's beneath us. It does not serve. - It does serve someone. - Not us. - But it is not us. - No. No, I think the younger girls have really got a handle on it too. You know, we get better as we go, but we still have to acknowledge that this was a part of our existence. - But did you have people in the industry who once they heard you performing, we're like, okay, we're in your corner. - I had a lot of people in my corner, I still do. Steve Harvey. - Really? - Steve Harvey was an advocate. - The radio station. - The radio station would not let him play my music. And he basically was like, screw all of you. I'm playing this, not only my planet, I'm playing it every hour on the hour. I'm not gonna stop. And he didn't. And that's how the music got to L.A. - That's amazing. - I thought so too. Like people listened and then they were sharing and showcasing the music because I don't know if, I don't think it was a favor to me. I just think they really rock with the music. - Getting to know you after would have certainly been like, oh, and I love her too. - Right. - But also the music was, is so timeless. - It's pretty time was now. It seems that way. But think about it too. You've got your Gladys Knight and your Shaka cons and Katty libels and they work with each other as well. You know, it's like you have to fight for sisterhood. - Right. - There are some people that battle with you or have jealousies towards you. Most of the time, it's not even them. It's the people around them that are like putting poison into a situation like, "Motherfucker, we all win it." - It could be winning even better. - We are all winning like this is a beautiful thing. We get to do something that we love to do and it's different levels of it. But isn't it different levels of everything? - Be happy, the lane that you're in. We love this lane and rock it. - Rock this lane. And when you're ready to switch lanes, you will. There's nothing anybody could do about it. - Knowing what you know now, especially having put out the first album on your own. - No, not my first, it wasn't my third. - Third? - Wait, really? - Yeah, I left the record labels and all that the long time ago. Had to fight for it. - Oh boy. - Geez Louise. - It was a smear campaign for that one too. - Really? - Oh yeah. - Because you wanted to walk away from that. - I needed to walk away from them. Like I'm not, there's nobody around me that is winning to where, you know, I feel like they should be. I don't like that. You don't have the relationship I thought you had within this industry. So everything is based on me. If I want to get at radio play, I have to go to the man's house to sing that birthday to the God Suther. On Thursday morning at 11 a.m. 'Cause that's when she wake up. I gotta be standing. I'm like, this is crazy. - Right. - Do you have any hope? - Right. - You know, the music is good. Is there any way that you could support that? - I left. And got sued for $19 million. - What? Jesus. - They didn't get $19 million. Who had $19 million? (laughing) I was like, you made $19 million? (laughing) - Off of me. - Jesus. - Yeah. - And so now the third album in independent. - People, I don't think they realized it took me 27 years to make, who was Jill Scott. It took me 10 years to make, to whom this made concern. I think I'm getting better. You know, a shorter amount of time, same amount of intention. - If okay, if we're talking about a shorter amount of time, are we already working on the next album? - I was going for 10 years. I've got a couple. - What? - I've got a couple. I got a couple. (laughing) - Anything you wanna share about any of them? - Not yet. - Okay. - Not just, I mean, now I know. I have to stew a little slow. - Okay. - You know, I'll get a reading to her in. The ingredients are there, so I have the work. Now it's how do I maneuver so that people know about it and can support it, how do I approach it differently? Then this time, this tour is no phones, you know, so nobody can videotape it. - Wait, really? - Yes. - Yes. - Oh, thank you for saying this. - Yes. - Thank you for saying this. - Because I missed it. You may be get three minutes of like, I was here. I had a really good time and then I'm in the show. But then what you also realize is that everyone else is also holding their phones up. And some people are live. They're on like TikTok live, Facebook live, watching the show or recording the show. - Yes. - And it's like, I didn't realize that until we did our own live shows. And I was like, what is happening in here? - It feels like you're getting like touched and everybody's okay with it. - Yes, it's very odd. - It's an invasion of privacy. - And I wanted to be over. - And that's not how I want my job. I love my job. I don't wanna feel like, oh, I can't wait till this is over. And then I noticed that people would take small parts of a show and make a narrative around it and decide, this is what she's saying. This is what she's doing. And this is who she is, off of this little bit. No, that's enough. And I want you to watch it, but I don't want you to judge it. - Right. - I'm an artist in the moment. And the show is different every night. I've never had the same show twice. And I especially don't know. But everything that you see on the stage is meticulously placed. Everything, every picture, every piece of carpet, every, everything you see. That's what the 10 years did. Focusing on my person that God has given me to guide and help him. You know, so there's that, no light of friction there. (laughing) Massive job. So I'm gonna do that. And then also got an opportunity to rediscover some things about myself. I miss North Philly. I miss seeing people that are like genuine. We're shooting in North Philly. And this woman came around, of course, she had a hand on my hand, bro. She was like, "Jewm." (laughing) "Jewm." (laughing) "I know you're not shooting at the eye of your girl." We didn't love you. And I was like, "Yup, right in the middle. We're literally shooting." - In a tank. - "Kam, girl." I was like, "Yeah, this is everything." - So lily, so lily. - Thank you. Philly love is something else. - It's true. - Yep, I know it to be true. - Especially now that I know that we weren't even anywhere close to water ice. - No, but it was delicious. - But it was good. - It was delicious. - And I'm getting an injure, 'cause they're gonna send me one. - All right, right? - Listen, Mason sent it up. Get you where you need to be. - All right. - And speak it enough. - Facebook. (laughing) - Theater by the fuck. - The bullshit. - Okay, what's our hit? - You messed up your potential earnings. - You fucked the bag. - Fumble the bag. - Say it. - Fumble the bag. - Fumble. - Fumble the bag. - We were like, "Fuck the bag." - Fumble the bag. - Fumble the bag. (laughing) - Fumble the bag. - Fumble the bag. - That was it. - Okay. - That was a good one. - We did that. - We did that. - The vent. - Yes? - Oh, oh, oh, oh. - No, that can't be right. Is it right? - Gate. - Oh, I thought it was the goat. - The goat? - No, there's no, oh. - That's one. - Not only eye. - Right? Glue. (dinging) - Good day, Lucy, Ella Quiz. (dinging) (laughing) Oh. You got it. You got this. - I do. - You do. - God don't like ugly. - You have to hit that buzzer. - No, you do. - No, you gotta do it. You got it. - Yeah. - What is that one? - You said it. - The gint, the gist, the gate, the-- - The gist, there's an F in this one. - What? - And this one? - The gist. - Oh! - Oh, the gift. - Gist. (laughing) - The gist? - The gift that keeps on giving. (upbeat music) (dinging) (laughing) - Shut the-- (laughing) - What? The gist? (laughing) - Damn, Gina, you got that. Okay, the gift. - I'm happy. (laughing) - I'm happy. - Ta-da. - Ta-da. (laughing) - You know what the phrase, the gift, it keeps on giving. You know what that's a reference to. You, 'cause you are the gift, it keeps on giving. And the gift that's in you, just keeps on giving. And I'm so glad for it. And I'm so glad to have you at the house today. I cannot tell you. I will be thinking about this. I'll be talking about this until I die. - I thank you so much. - You're the bond. - Can we go swimming and then take a nap? - Yeah. (laughing) - Yes, absolutely. What you're right now? Let's go. - I got a baby suit with everything. - That's perfect. - Everybody ready? We all going swimming. (laughing) - And that's how I love it. - And that's how I love it. (cheering) - Oh, I love you so. - Thank you so much for this beautiful turn. ♪ Hey neighbor, our house guest is on the way ♪ ♪ The way, the way, the way ♪ ♪ A little bit alive to a lot of smiles ♪ ♪ Won't you come in and stay alive ♪ ♪ Hey neighbor, hey neighbor ♪

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. Jill Scott’s music had a profound impact on the speaker, especially during their eighth-grade years, shaping their life and emotional journey.
  2. The speaker shares a deeply emotional connection to Jill’s early performance of a song at a House of Blues concert, which left a lasting impression and triggered a personal creative awakening.
  3. Jill reflects on her life journey, emphasizing resilience, wisdom, and self-discovery through personal challenges, including divorce, loss, and transitions through midlife.
  4. She highlights the cultural significance of Black women’s experiences, noting how her music serves as a love letter to Black women and a source of empowerment.
  5. The conversation reveals the power of authenticity, vulnerability, and self-expression in art and relationships.
  6. Jill shares her experience of being invited to a private performance with Prince and Stevie Wonder, describing a surreal, life-changing moment of artistic validation.
  7. The episode blends personal storytelling with moments of humor, including a homemade water ice recipe and a playful game about personal traits.
  8. The narrative underscores themes of self-acceptance, emotional growth, and the importance of living authentically in the face of societal pressures.

Summary:

Jill Scott’s appearance on the show is a deeply emotional and personal moment, rooted in the enduring influence of her music on the host’s life. The conversation begins with a nostalgic memory of hearing her music in eighth grade, which sparked a lifelong connection and inspired the host’s own creative journey. Jill shares the pivotal moment she first performed a song in front of an audience at the House of Blues, describing how Prince and Stevie Wonder were present, and how the experience felt like a spiritual revelation—so powerful it awakened her to a new way of expressing herself through songwriting.

She reflects on her life’s journey, including marriage, motherhood, and the challenges of midlife, emphasizing resilience and self-acceptance. The dialogue also explores the cultural significance of Black women’s experiences, framing her art as a love letter to Black women and a source of strength. Humor and personal anecdotes—like making homemade water ice and playing a game about personal traits—add warmth and intimacy.

The episode blends personal revelation with broader themes of authenticity, self-growth, and the transformative power of art. Ultimately, it celebrates Jill Scott’s enduring legacy and the profound impact of her music on both personal and cultural levels, affirming that joy, pain, and growth are all part of a living, evolving life.

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Jill Scott credits her music as a defining influence, recalling how she first heard her name in a bus lineup and was instantly moved. The song became a part of her life, guiding her through both highs and challenges, and she shares that her music has deeply impacted other people she loves, like her sisters and mother.

Jill describes the moment as life-changing—she was in a white pantsuit, performing at a venue where Prince and Stevie Wonder were present. Prince heard her song, which had never been recorded, and sang it word for word. Stevie Wonder then beatboxed it, creating a legendary moment that left both of them in awe.

She says that people often tell her their lives have been changed by her music, and she feels deeply honored. She believes her work has become a gift to others, especially women, and that it helps them feel seen, understood, and empowered.

She reflects on the challenges of aging, including menopause and self-doubt, but emphasizes that these transitions are part of a natural evolution. She says she’s learning to embrace change and is proud of how she’s growing into herself, even if it’s not always easy.

Jill says that while people may have experienced cheating in the past, the true issue isn’t the act itself but the emotional impact and how it affects trust. She believes in open, honest communication and values relationships built on mutual respect and understanding.

She shares that after releasing her first album over 25 years ago, she’s now reimagining her journey and feels deeply connected to her roots. She says she’s still repping North Philly and is proud of how far she’s come, both artistically and personally.

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