Jill Scott Says This Was the Best Night of Her Life
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Jill Scott shares a heartfelt and reflective journey centered on the transformative power of music and personal connection. She recounts the life-altering moment she first heard Prince’s song “And I Heard” during a concert, describing how it resonated deeply and shaped her identity and career. This memory is interwoven with a vivid, emotional encounter with Prince and Stevie Wonder, where Prince sang the song verbatim after hearing it in the audience, and later danced with her until 4 a.m., creating a surreal and unforgettable experience. Jill reflects on the emotional weight of her journey, including her roots in North Philly, her personal growth, and the challenges of life such as menopause and family dynamics. She emphasizes her commitment to authenticity, joy, and self-acceptance, stating that her artistry has deeply impacted others, including her family and fans. The conversation also touches on her new work in the film *Why Did I Get Married Again*, her evolving personal and professional life, and her belief in the power of vulnerability and connection. Throughout, she celebrates her resilience, gratitude, and the joy of living fully in the present, even amid life’s complexities. Her story is a tribute to black women’s strength, creativity, and the enduring impact of music as a source of healing and identity.
- Oh my God, so you don't know this.
- 'Cause you wouldn't.
- This is the best night of my life.
The night that you saw and heard that song
for the first time, the first time
that I ever performed it in front of people.
I was in my dressing room after the show.
- Yes.
- Prince comes in.
Stevie Wonder comes in.
- Jill Scott, okay. - I promise you,
this is my life.
- What is up, neighbors?
We've got the one and only Jill Scott
coming to the house today.
This Grammy-winning singer, songwriter, actress,
and poet has been giving us classics for over 25 years.
And earlier this year, she released her first album
in more than a decade.
And she's back on our screens with the new movie,
"Why Did I Get Married Again?"
And y'all, we are rooting for Sheila.
We need a win for Sheila, y'all.
And neighbors, I'm not even gonna act like this
as a regular episode.
Jill Scott has been one of my favorite artists
since I was in the eighth,
and she has been one of my favorites since I was in the eighth.
And she has been one of my favorites since I was in the eighth.
today, just know this is a dream come true for me. Let's get it. I have to say, I'm trying to be
better about being in the present and just sitting right where you are, letting your body, your mind,
your sight, your hearing, your taste be right where you are. And baby, when I tell you I'm so glad I'm
right where I'm at today, Ms. Jill Scott, my God. Hi. How are you doing? Right? It's a lot. But like
a lot of the best things, right? So good. It feels that way. Listen, I knew that when I turned this
age, I'm 54 now. I knew that when I would get here, this will be my time. You knew it. I always
wanted to be an auntie. I knew a lot of things, but I thought, oh,
if I don't have the maturity and the age behind it, this wisdom is not going to be
taken seriously. I'll wait. And I'm 54 now. And I'm like, listen, I've been married twice.
Well, divorced twice. Okay. I've had some life now. I could tell you some things.
Baby, you should know. Well, listen, I'm so glad we are sat here today because I'm ready to know.
But before we get to it, you're a girl from Philly. Yes. Right. At heart. I just
got hip to water ice. Yes. And I figured I'd make you, you know, our best shot at a homemade
water ice. Seriously? But I made it with rum. And I know you love. Let's go. I know you love
watermelon and coconut water. So I use that as my base. Are you ready? You want to try it?
You know how to treat a girl. You know what I'm saying? Yes, I love to try it. Okay, well,
let's do it then. Now, while I get Jill's drink together, I've got to thank Macy's for sponsoring
it. Y'all know the kitchen is the heart of the house. It's where I cook. It's where I host. And
apparently it's now where I'm making slushies for Jill Scott. With the fall coming, I'm doing a
little refresh here in the kitchen, finding new things to make hosting even more fun. And Macy's
has so many great appliances that make hosting a little bit easier. But y'all, I knew this ninja
slushie was going to be perfect for my get togethers at the house. You just pour your
little drink right on in here and it freezes it. I call it slushes it. Look at this.
Mm, mm, mm. Winning juice? It came out slushy. Oh, wee. You know Jill deserves more than a regular
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Now, I also have coconut cream because I think I want it to be pretty.
He's put coconut cream in it. Look at what you've done.
Okay, here we go. Bam.
Oh, it smells so good.
Right?
You already know.
Right?
When the spoon goes like this and you start looking at it.
I know when you took your lips in. That's how I always know.
This is lovely.
It is lovely to have you.
Thank you for having me.
It is, um, woo. I said I was going to wait to get emotional, but it might happen before then
because it's just like, it's real. I think about the very first time I heard your music.
I was in eighth grade. I was on a bus going to a black college fair. And I hear, my name is J-I-L-L-S-C-O-T-T. Come on! Representing North Philly, y'all. Come on! I was like, that's my name! And there was just something that was like, oh, this is for me.
By the time I got home, I knew every song word for word. That music has stuck with me through incredible highs of my life, some hard challenges, obstacles in my life.
And I've also been able to gift it to other people who mean so much to me in my life. My sisters know you. My mother knows you.
And so I just imagined, you must walk around all day with people being like, your music has changed my life. What is that like?
I'm going to just try my best not to be giddy.
Like, I literally don't have words for this level of my existence.
Really?
No, there's nothing. I mean, it's so delicious. It's so delicious because I earned everything.
You did.
And then to see this album after my first album 26 years ago, and I'm listening to my first album and my second and my third and my fourth.
And I was like, I was always arriving here. I've been repping North Philly.
I've been repping North Philly since the beginning.
The beginning.
And here I am now, and I'm still repping North Philly. I love that I still have my heart. I love that I still know myself.
I love that I'm still learning. I'm meeting beautiful people who are having beautiful existences at the same time as I am.
And I am overwhelmed with fucking glee.
Yes.
It's literal glee.
Especially in a time like now where every message.
Every message on the outside is telling you there is nothing to have glee about.
There's nothing to be glee.
Yeah, be sad.
Stay angry.
Yeah.
Angry is good for the right reasons.
Well, you have to put something behind angry.
Just like you have to put something behind faith.
You've got to put effort and energy into that thing.
If you're angry, you can change that.
Sitting around and talking about why you're angry is not helping anything or anybody.
The life choices, baby.
The angles that the life choices are coming from.
It's just been magnificent.
And they're hard.
Yeah.
They're hard.
They're not easy.
Yep.
Some people you got to cut off and step away from forever.
That part.
It's enough of that.
Whatever it is.
And sometimes it's your own people.
Like, meaning your family.
Yeah.
Mom.
Dad.
Sister.
Hello.
Brother.
No, this is the one life I get.
And I wanted to be as blissful and joyful.
I wish everything was easy.
That's not how it is.
That's not life.
I'm not going to let you make it worse for me.
No.
Certainly.
No.
So go do you if you want to be mad and upset and stay in that.
But I'm taking charge of mine.
I'm going to try.
But you're something different, though.
You're something different, though.
I mean, the moment you open your mouth.
I remember going to see you early 2000s.
And you were performing.
It was the encore performance after your concert.
And it was a song you would come back out and sing.
And it was, And I Heard.
I remember listening.
I remember listening to that in the audience for the first time I'd never it wasn't on it wasn't on an album it wasn't you couldn't find it online this is like the days of YouTube we weren't recording stuff and putting it on YouTube like that then and also blues yeah and I was bawling because it was right on time the things you were saying you were like before each breath and out and in and before that I begin let your light shine I'm the millisecond before the millisecond.
It took you to think what I'm always with you I am you so you better you better get to work it's not a surprise to me that you say goodness wow that's what I mean like life changed I'd have to explain I don't have to but I want to I was minding my business I was sleep when that came to you yes it woke me up I said straight up in the bed I went feeling around I got some paper the hotel I know I
had a book I had a what you call it a composition book and I just started writing and it didn't stop I didn't have to question I didn't have to go back and erase I didn't have to do anything it came out as a fluid 100% fact yes declaration a complete declaration I was so moved I said okay we have to I'm going to do this tonight there was the first time the band had never heard it before what nobody heard it before.
You don't remember so when you were doing the like I was telling them how it went shut the hell up because I heard it all goosebumps I heard the whole thing do no no no no no no no no no no no hey
I heard the whole thing, the melody, everything.
Oh my God, so you don't know this.
Listen, this is the best night of my life, okay?
The night that you saw and heard that song
for the first time, the first time
that I ever performed it in front of people,
the first time my band heard it,
I was in my dressing room after the show,
and Prince comes in.
I was in a white pantsuit.
It looked like it was made out of angel hair.
- 'Cause it was.
- The pants went, wha, wha, wha,
whenever he walked, what is happening?
- What is happening?
- What is happening?
And everybody that's with him is all dressed in white.
Fantastic.
Prince is there, talking to Prince,
talking to Prince, it's crazy.
And the people are in the driving,
I mean, the parking lot outside of the House of Blues.
- Still?
- Still.
- Singing!
♪ Do you understand ♪
♪ What you feel inside ♪
♪ Dun-dun, dun-dun, dun-dun, hey ♪
♪ Oh, hey ♪
The whole, the parking lot is lit.
- You see me, I'm like this right now.
- So Stevie Wonder comes in.
- Jill Scott, okay. - I promise you.
- You could've, what?
- This is my life.
This is my life.
Stevie Wonder comes in, and he says, hey, well, I'm sorry.
I'm not trying to do this to you.
- I'm about to, I'm about to, I'm about to.
He's like, what's going on?
And Prince says, Jill sang a song, and I ain't.
It's a new song.
Stevie Wonder's like, oh, how does it go?
And Prince goes, dun-dun, dun-dun, dun-dun, dun-dun, dun-dun.
So Stevie Wonder starts beatboxing.
Right, right.
So Prince, we're in a cypher now.
All my band.
Mind you, when Stevie walked in, he goes, oh, is that Prince?
And Prince goes, hey, Steve.
- Unbelievable. - What?
- Hey, Steve.
I was like, this is amazing.
- This is crazy.
- So now Stevie Wonder's beatboxing,
and Prince is singing this song verbatim.
- What? - How?
How? - He just heard it.
You performed it one time. - How?
Prince is singing the words.
That came to me last night like they came to him.
- Whoa. - He is singing it word for word.
Stevie Wonder's beatboxing, and Prince is singing this song.
- And so what are you doing, Jill?
What are you doing?
- I think I just had my mouth open.
- I'm just like, what?
- This is amazing.
Then later on, after everybody leaves,
Prince's assistant calls me, and she's like,
Prince wants to hang out with you.
I have to leave, 'cause we're headed to a new show.
This is when I traveled the way that I used to.
- Right. - This is when I traveled the way that I used to.
I don't do that anymore.
- Yeah. - Residencies, darling.
- Hello. - Come see me.
- Come see me. - Come see me.
- Yeah. - Please.
So I'm like, I can't hang out with Prince tonight.
I have to, I gotta go to work.
- Right.
- And he calls again, and he calls again.
You're coming, you know, finally.
And he calls me himself, and he's like,
I want you to come dance with me.
- Well, she's gonna say no.
- I mean.
- Okay, so I go to the Roosevelt Hotel.
He has rented out this disco room in there.
And that man twirled me around like I was nothing.
When I say smooth, I mean so smooth.
- Do you see the whole room?
We just throw it like this.
- Like I was nothing.
I think, I'm pretty sure he dipped me.
Like, and I went for it.
If he's doing it, he's got me.
- He got me.
We gonna see. - And he did.
- And he did.
- That's what I'm saying.
- I danced with Prince till four o'clock
in the morning.
This is my life.
Till four o'clock in the morning.
- Come on.
- It was wonderful.
- Come on.
- And for some reason, I made him laugh.
Whenever he laughed, he would fall back on a chair
and kick his feet in the air.
Mind you, he's changed his suit now.
It's now red.
- 'Cause you know.
- Made out of, I don't know, zebra eyelashes.
- Something.
- And unicorn feathers.
- Right.
That's incredible.
- That's my life.
- That's incredible.
- I love it.
- I love it for you.
I love it for me, too.
- Thank you so much.
- That's so great.
I just wanted to say thank you for the song.
I didn't know I was gonna get that.
- I'm grateful for that song.
What powerful thing to be able to express to people.
You seem to have a mystery of me.
I am here to broach it.
Who writes, who says these words?
I am he who resides in everything growing and glowing.
I am not one to try and hide.
I am here and I show it.
Make no mistake.
Satan is the father of lies.
But I'm father to him and all of them.
Do you understand what you feel inside?
- Come on.
- Do-do, do-do, do-do, eh, oh, eh.
- It's so good, like right now, it's so good.
- I'm a vessel for this.
- I'm so glad.
- And I am, too.
- I'm so glad you listened.
- I'm gonna get you some more notepads,
'cause I just feel like we can't be without that.
- That's the obedience part.
- Oh my goodness.
- Because you don't know when it's gonna come
and you don't know how long it's gonna stay.
- Yeah.
- It's a gift, not a given.
- Kevin Fredericks, known as KevOnStage,
I heard him say recently that he sometimes, as a creative,
he feels like he's getting it directly downloaded
from like a message from God.
What he understands, what he sees as God
literally talking to him, saying this is what I want you
to do, this is what's next, and that it's disrespectful.
- Even more.
- To the task and to him to not execute it.
- Right.
- To not move on it.
And so, I'm just so glad, I'm so blessed.
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These glasses were a gift when I bought this house.
A case full of crystal, as a matter of fact.
- You're not breaking these.
- No, you can't.
- My mother got me very similar glasses from the thrift store.
She paid a dollar a glass.
I literally dropped a glass on the marble.
And it was like--
- What?
- You gonna bring me up?
- Stuff was made better.
- Yeah.
- Most stuff was--
- Made to last.
- This is lovely.
- Yeah.
- It's a real glass.
- Tyler Perry.
- Go off, Tyler.
- He said, congratulations on your first home purchase.
To many more.
- Listen, to many more.
- Catch me in the eye.
- I love-- look, you know I was gonna get there.
- Oh.
- Oh, that's wonderful.
- Shoot, right?
- He gives good gifts.
- I'm gonna tell you, the coolest gift to him
is a handwritten note.
- Hmm, now I gotta write him a letter.
- I say.
- You'll spend the block trying to find something amazing
for someone who literally--
- Has planes.
- Yeah, yeah.
- Yeah.
- Amongst other amazing, beautiful things.
- Yeah.
- I like that.
- Yeah.
- I wanna see more.
I wish I could've went to Tina Turner's house.
- Right.
- I really do.
Where was she?
South of-- not South of Spain.
- She was-- no, she was in Switzerland.
With a garden in the back.
- You know what I'm saying?
- I miss my opportunity.
I wish Maya Angelou and I are born on the same day.
- OK.
- So we saw each other, and I was like,
what you doing for your birthday?
And she was like, oh, I'm probably gonna be in bed.
And I was like, can I come?
My plan was to be in my pajamas
and be in bed with Maya Angelou all day.
And I got a job, and I should've never,
never took the dang job.
I thought I had more time.
- We always do, don't we?
- We think we have time.
We don't know.
But I'm also right in the smack of menopause.
- Oh, snap.
- No running, no hiding.
This is inevitable.
- Right.
- This is what's going to happen.
- And it's happening to me.
- It's happening to me.
And as much as I heard women, my elder women,
talk about what this was going to be,
it's different until it's you.
I don't know that I necessarily want to escape it.
I feel like this is a part of, like, a rite of passage.
I'm dealing with the not being able to sleep well.
You know, being ravenous at three o'clock in the morning.
Not like, oh, I need a, I'll just make a half a sandwich.
Oh, I'll just have some fruit.
No, I need a meal.
I'm cooking.
- Right.
At three o'clock in the morning?
- I'm cooking.
- At three o'clock in the morning?
- Listen, I can't sleep again.
Then I get a headache, and I'm like, drink water.
Sure, sure.
But you don't understand what's happening here.
And then also there is a woman that lives inside me,
and she doesn't want to do a lot.
And this woman tells me, we're not,
"You're not doing that."
And I said, "But I need to."
And she says, "We're not."
I'm like, but I need to.
I've never had to argue with myself like this.
Who invited you in here?
Right, lady.
I have things to do today.
How long are we going to stay here?
You're watching me.
I'm in a caterpillar.
I'm in a chrysalis.
Yeah.
I'm about to become something else.
Come on.
I can feel it.
I don't know what it is, but I'm excited for it.
Like, okay.
I feel like you have a lot of new in your life right now.
And perhaps the next thing to experience that new is you.
Message.
The wind chimes.
They never wrong.
They are never wrong.
On this show, they are never wrong.
Message.
When your environment sometimes has changed, when your circumstances, your life has changed,
sometimes the last thing to change is literally your body, literally you, your thought processes,
your choices, your chemistry.
It is not easy.
I thought when this album came out, I thought when "To Whom This May Concern" comes out,
that I'm going to be in such great shape because I have all these ideas that I need to implement.
I'm going to feel so good.
I'm so ready.
And I'm not.
I'm in the middle of this thing that is happening to me.
And it's real.
Wow.
So I have to remind myself, you pretty.
Hey.
Gorgeous, actually.
Thank you.
You're good.
Hey, I have to work that on a daily basis because it doesn't matter what the world says.
It's what you believe for yourself.
And I'm in the middle of a whole universe shift.
So as much as I, you know, say that how gleeful I am, how joyful I am.
I need people to also understand there's the other side of the thing that as a human
being and as a woman, I have to work myself through these things, too.
I'm still in progress and I'm also changing.
There's an evolution happening and I'm very excited to see what it is.
I'm thankful that you are open to even sharing the experience of that with other
people, with us.
Right.
Because like there are a lot of people don't want to hear about no women.
Yeah.
Right here about this show is a love letter to black women.
It started for a minute.
For many reasons, but has one of its pillars of creation and all that we do is a love letter
to black women in particular.
And so absolutely, we want to hear about black women.
Yeah.
Do I need to get to the movie that you are here to talk about as well?
Sure.
Do I want to play the game that we've prepared?
Sure.
But am I going to step in the way of you declaring the moment I find myself in right now, especially
after we started this conversation?
By saying I want to sit in the moment, in the present, and then rob us of that experience
and honor that?
Absolutely not.
When y'all first met the cast of Why Did I Get Married, we were what, in our 30s?
Yeah.
Right?
So now we're in our 50s.
So every woman that you see is going through a similar thing that we're all responding
to differently.
It's not a highlight.
It's a fact.
Interesting.
This is a more mature cast.
Right.
You know, this is Sheriff Troy and Sheila have lived some since you've seen them.
They have lived.
They're married.
So that means that they have some obstacles and they have some things to get through.
And they're different.
And they still love each other.
Right.
Still.
Here come another one.
I hope you enjoy it.
I also love the looks that have evolved.
From the very first movie.
Poor Sheila.
You know what I mean?
Through the second movie and now in the third.
Some additions to cast and things like that.
What was it like to get everybody back together?
And the addition of some new energy.
Certainly new energy because we're growing as people.
But like new people.
I think Tyler did an excellent job at putting us in a beautiful place.
I don't want to say where, but we all ended up around beautiful mountains and beautiful
beautiful water and put us all together in this place and gave us time to get to know
each other just to be that worked.
So by the time we started shooting, everything felt good and real.
The young man that plays my son, you know, that's, I ended up hugging and kissing on
the board.
I didn't mean to.
I was like, things just, you need some lunch money.
Right.
It became.
Very, very, very natural for all of us.
Wow.
Yeah.
That's incredible.
It's a different way of shooting anything.
You normally don't get that.
This new, you get like a couple of days.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We got days.
At some point I was like, when are you going home?
You ever have enough vacation?
Well, I have actually, yes, I have in the middle of, of a trip, which is short and
then a vacation, which is about two weeks.
And then there's a holiday.
Sometimes in between that two and three week mark, it wasn't supposed to be this long.
Right.
We can do something else.
Either way.
It was a great experience.
I'm so excited.
I was so curious to how he shot things.
He shoots things like I've never seen before.
I've worked a lot.
Yeah.
And I've never seen anything like that.
I can't wait for it.
I want to, I want to see what the people say.
I said, Netflix, can you send me the screener?
They were like, no, we're not sending screeners yet.
I haven't looked yet.
You haven't.
No.
So you'll see it before.
Yeah, I hope so.
That's how I want to see it.
You know, take the.
Take the hits right in the seat, you know.
Oh, Sheila, please, Sheila.
Before we get to the game, I just have to ask you about Tasha Smith.
She's everything I think, right?
She's everything you think she is.
I love that woman.
Love her.
Now you're going to get me.
I love that woman.
Tasha is from the bottom.
She's from Camden.
I'm from North Philly.
You know, we connect on that level.
We have seen some things, OK?
And to be here, honey, Tasha, Tasha's just got a wonderful deal with Netflix.
They were very excited about as a director.
Sis is growing and moving like her spirit is powerful.
Yes, how you think she loves.
She loves like that.
I believe it.
That's a solid.
I ain't going to call her nothing.
She's good, but she she she likes that.
I don't like to be called a bitch, but she does.
That's a solid bitch, but she does.
She does.
She's a solid, solid bitch.
I do want to play a game with you.
Little get to know you situation.
I love games.
OK, so in the spirit of why did I get married?
Married again, we're playing a little game, you know, marriage is typically
what do they say for better or for worse situations here?
Maybe personality traits, character traits that come up.
And we're going to say if we do or if we don't, I love you.
OK, yes.
So guess first, can I get another?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Why you go ahead?
I'm a go ahead.
I need one of those.
That's nice, right?
Send you one ninja.
Come on, ninja.
Someone who doesn't vote in elections.
Yeah, I can't.
What you doing?
I mean--
On Tuesday, what did you have to do?
Do something.
Vote.
Do something.
I didn't say you had to go out and raise money or knock on the doors.
I mean, but that'd be nice.
Yeah, but you got to--
If you're about that.
People died so that we could.
I need you to go ahead and--
Yeah, I know people say it doesn't mean anything.
And I honestly don't know that it does.
But they died.
And they look just like me.
And they died because they couldn't so that we could.
So I'm going to.
And walked and waited and waited and waited and got
sent to another place and another place and another place.
And yeah.
I'm going to do it.
Oh, OK.
Someone who doesn't like PDA.
Oh.
Nope.
Listen, all we got--
If you don't like PDA, it's an indicator
there's other things that I like that you don't like.
I think it's an indicator that you're hiding something.
Ooh.
Yeah, because why can't you kiss me in public?
I mean, we kissing private.
I mean, we still us out here.
What's the problem?
That's not your person.
No.
Never.
I guess it's like a-- you know, if they're
like a germaphobe or something, I don't know.
You know, I don't know.
Some people's OCD, how it works, you know.
How you going to be with a germaphobe?
I couldn't.
No, literally.
I'm too dirty.
OK, here's one.
Someone who has cheated in past relationships.
OK, can we ask another question?
Was it the reason you're no longer
in the last relationship?
Because that's a I don't.
But if you did before--
and you know the impact of that, and you don't want to ever
be that again, I could.
It's not really about the act.
Right.
It's about what happened before, after, and in between.
Where are you now?
What's your character now?
Exactly.
Who are you today?
I'm going to say I don't.
She said no.
Yeah, I'm going to say I don't because I definitely
have been cheated on.
It didn't destroy me.
I mean--
Right.
But it agitated me.
Yeah.
And it's something that operates in the background.
You went through a lot to be deceptive.
I don't like that.
But I've also cheated.
So where does that fall?
Well, seriously.
I mean, maybe somebody wouldn't date me.
Possibly.
It takes a lot for me to one cheat.
And I will say that.
I have written the letters.
It's letters in your pocket.
I have wrote the song.
I have told you multiple, multiple, multiple times.
I've left little notes on the mirror.
I've done everything.
I've done everything that I know to do to communicate with you
what the issues are.
Right.
I just might, you know, like I'm out.
And then we're already broken up.
We're already, exactly.
We're good.
Now the rest is a formality.
Yeah.
It's a wrap.
Yeah.
Hey, wanted to let you know today's my last day.
Yep.
The sex part or the hookup part, the other person part is not so much the thing as much as the us part in the cheating.
This game you end up playing with yourself, I don't want that.
No.
Either we can open this thing up and we both go play or we not.
Let's talk about it like grownups.
Because we grown.
Because what are we doing?
And it's not going to destroy either of us.
But why waste the time?
Why waste the time?
You don't want what I want and I don't want what you want.
Why are we wasting time?
What are we doing?
My granddaddy said to me the other day.
I don't know.
I hope you're doing your favorite thing to do.
I said, why you say that?
He said, I hope you're doing your favorite thing to do.
Because this shit here, we about to wrap this up.
Well.
I hope you're doing your favorite thing.
I heard somebody say something really good.
That it isn't the end of the world.
It's the end of man.
You know, the particular ways that things have been running.
The pollutants and the, like, it's the food.
What are we, what are we?
Eating.
What is it?
I don't know.
Ooh, okay.
Someone who is bad with money.
I won't say never.
I have.
It was a mistake.
Exactly.
Don't want to.
I don't.
Don't do the same dumb shit.
Unless you got so much of it, it don't matter.
Like, you, the one who's not good with it.
You're not going to have it long.
I mean, we can have some fun then.
No.
I mean.
We can have some fun then.
A nice time is a nice time.
Yeah, I mean, toot-a-loo.
But, I mean, could you be with that person?
No, spend your shit.
That's what I'm saying.
Spend your shit.
Absolutely.
Spend it.
My turn.
Someone who loves true crime.
Enthralled.
Really?
Okay, but is it, like, just, like, you're just watching it, right?
Like, you're not, like, obsessed with true crime?
No.
Because the people who are obsessed with true crime scare me.
Oh, no, no, no.
Because I figure, like, you're planning something.
No, I just like that.
There's a documentary on Netflix right now about the Idaho murders.
Mm-hmm.
The man who just walked into these kids' apartment and just stabbed them to death.
I didn't watch that.
It's crazy.
I think there's a part of me that wants to know how crazy people can be so I can, you know, be mindful and aware.
Like, check that energy.
I saw a guy's eyes.
His eyes was doing this.
I was like, nah.
It could have been that man's affliction.
I don't know.
But either way.
But they had never done that before.
I'd seen him.
I'd said something he didn't like, and those eyes went tick-a-tick-a-tick.
I was like, ah, nah, I'm out.
Wait, so how do you get out of a moment like that?
Oh, you back out slowly.
Hey, all right.
Okay.
All right.
I see.
Where is my bag?
What did I do?
What did I do?
What did I do?
Where's my bag?
I'm gone.
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Someone who shows their love through actions versus words.
They do the stuff.
They can't necessarily say the stuff.
With all my heart.
Really?
With all my heart.
I struggle with this.
No, show me.
But I. I also need to hear it.
I asked my man to write me a poem.
I think I must have laughed for about 36, 7 minutes.
I won't ask him to write me a poem again.
What is that?
Uh-uh.
Cool.
You do so many great things.
You said, you know what?
I love you for it.
Yes.
You did it, but you did it though.
He did it.
He did it.
He did it.
Because he could have just been like, nah, girl, I'm going to go out and build you a car.
My man's motto is I show you better than I tell you.
I hear that.
Yep.
That might have to do more with me than it does my partner.
Where do you think that comes from, that you have to hear the words?
I think it's how I communicate.
When we talk about love languages, people often talk about how you communicate love,
not how you receive love, right?
Communicating is a two-way street.
It's not just about what you do, but it's also about how you receive.
I try my best to be considerate and aware, intentional with the words that I use and
how I speak to people.
And the words that I use in relation to people.
And then I want you to do the same thing with me.
But would you rather have someone who speaks well and could communicate all their emotions,
but not do the things that mean the words?
I think that's fine.
I don't know.
This age tells me that I need you.
You got to show me.
Do the stuff.
Show me.
It's delicious.
Like, literally.
Like, I'm going to bite you.
I'm going to bite you so hard.
Because I don't know what else to do.
You're actually doing all the things that I really deserve.
Like, you're kind to me regularly.
Like, you're not playing.
So thoughtful.
So loving.
Patient.
Fun.
Like, oh, my God.
I found my person.
Okay.
So, with that said, you know, welcome to the house.
It's awesome.
We have some food I want to get to.
But right before we get to the food, I want to know what your house rule is.
What's one rule in your house?
I've got obsidian by my door.
It's a stone.
Yeah, you can't really be coming in there with negative energy.
So, that's that.
Oprah used to have a sign.
What says?
On her dressing room, I think it was, to be careful of the energy you bring beyond this threshold.
I don't even say anything.
I just put obsidian on the side of the door and pray.
Don't come in here with that.
You can't.
You won't be able to stay.
You're going to get sick.
Something's going to happen.
So uncomfortable.
Got to go.
Yeah, the phone's ringing.
You got to go.
You're not staying in here.
Wow.
Trying to get some obsidian.
Okay.
I'm clear.
What is my rule in the house?
Jill Scott's house rule.
No pork.
Really?
Don't bring that in my house.
When was the last time you had a piece of bacon?
I went off of it because I went to a farm.
And I was like, I should have never saw that.
It's true.
I should have never saw that.
It's true.
Can they grow the bacon in a lab?
Can they please?
Oh, I shouldn't have saw that.
And I stopped eating pork for like eight years.
And then I went to Hawaii and there was a beauty.
Full Hawaiian man with no shirt on and some grass panties or whatever.
And the man had a slab of bacon like that.
He put it on the grill and drizzled it in honey.
And I was like, oh, and I ate it every day for three weeks.
Yeah, I ate it.
I didn't get sick, but I think, I think it's where you get it from.
Oh, America.
Yeah.
No, no.
I think Hawaii is America, but they hold themselves to a certain standard.
So I don't, I don't mess with it here.
But if I'm overseas, I might.
Don't bring that.
Are you adventurous with food?
I would say yes.
I was in Botswana shooting the number one ladies detective agency.
Come on.
And they were.
Also, your accent in that.
I don't know how you, you and Anika Noni Rose.
Y'all ate that all the way up.
Thank you.
We had a group of elder women, particularly around me.
Beautiful with lots of hair on their chin.
And I, I, I got them, I got them, they let me in.
I was like, my girl, you've done so good here.
And so I like it.
I'm like, yay.
I'm getting everybody tweezers.
Um, they would be around me.
And if I said a word wrong, they were all go and I would hear that sound.
I'm like, oh, we haven't, we didn't just one more take this one more take.
How do I say it?
And then when I get it, right.
Um, I would hear them say after the take, my gal, it takes a, it takes a whole.
Is there a phrase that like locks you into it?
Is there a phrase like a, like, you know, like some people say there's a sentence
that if they can say this sentence, it will remind them of the things they
need to activate the accent.
If I start speaking about Botswana, it'll come back to me.
I think the word that troubled me the most was kilokulela, which is a place.
She's down there in kilokulela.
And I was like.
I think that's like, that word is down and then there, and then of instead of, of we
worked really diligently to get that accent.
We wanted to represent Botswana in the best way.
They were kind of me and put me on a postage stamp.
Come on.
What?
This is my life.
You're on the stamp.
I'm alive.
I know.
That's right.
Well, you were talking about food there.
Oh, session is really good.
- What's that?
- It's like chopped up,
beef, like you would have at a barbecue or something.
It's really, really good.
I would say the steak is the best I've ever had in my life.
- Is that right?
- Really, really amazing.
The cattle would stand there in your face.
I'm 5'7".
How you looking me in my eye, cow?
What kind of cow is this?
And they just go and travel all over on their own
until somebody rings the bell and then they all come back.
They are free range, for real.
- Literally.
- No, for real.
- Oh, that's right.
- So the meat is like incredible.
- Are we ready to eat?
- What we eating?
- We got a little Thai.
- Mmm.
- But I also got you a tuna milk,
'cause you know, just in case that's what you wanted.
- Okay.
- Thank you, friend.
- Let's do it.
Welcome to the backyard.
- Stunning.
Look at your aloe.
Come on, succulent.
When I walked back here, I was like,
"Oh, this is where I'm gonna live."
- It's wonderful.
- I'm not supposed to be sitting down, I know.
- She said, "I gotta look around."
- Oh my gosh.
And there's the chimes.
This is beautiful.
Come on, life.
- Come on, life.
- This your life?
- This is my life.
- This your life?
- I live like this.
- This your life?
- It's crazy.
- You came to a concert at the House of Blues
some 20, some years ago.
- Yeah.
- 20 years ago.
- You saw me, and I'm in your backyard
with your succulents.
- Crazy.
And it's a succulent good time.
Hello?
Part of this is also crazy because in my mind,
I needed a redo.
I needed a redo.
I don't know--
- Why'd you think that?
- If you'll remember this interaction,
my mother introducing us at Tyler Perry's studio opening.
Years and years and years ago, I'm taking this acting class.
I'm studying to be an actor from Burt Reynolds.
- Wow.
- He traveled to Indiana for the acting class.
We were charged with doing a monologue, right?
- It's really good.
- Is it good?
- Yes, it is.
- It's good?
- It's really, really good.
- Do you see why I wanted you to have some Thai?
- Oh my god.
- I was like, I wanted to experience this.
Thai food is so good.
- I still need you to go to the Thai diner.
- I'm going.
- In New York.
- I'm going.
- Tell me.
Call me.
- I'm going to do it.
I'm going to get you in there.
- I got to have your number.
I got to have your number.
- You're going to get it.
Call me.
- Y'all can't tell me.
- It ain't easy.
You're going to love it.
- Put in a good word for me.
So I'm in this acting class with Burt Reynolds.
I'm the last one to go up.
And I decide, instead of doing one of the choices
from a monologue book that they had provided,
I instead performed "Love Rain."
My scene was, I was being interviewed.
This is actually making me-- taking
my breath away a little bit, because I'm realizing now
the kind of parallels in this, those folded moments
we talked about earlier.
In this made-up scene I've created
for Burt Reynolds in this class, I'm
being interviewed about my first hit.
And I'm using your lyrics to the song
that I love so much as my dialogue.
And so the song starts with, I met her on a Thursday.
- Sunny afternoon.
- Cumulus clouds.
- 84 degrees.
- She was bright.
- And round.
- And deep.
- Says she want to talk about my mission.
- Listen to my past lives.
- Word?
- And so I can't believe I just did that with you right now.
I'm like, ooh.
- I can't believe anybody.
You get it?
- Yeah, I do.
- Anybody.
- Ooh.
- We were talking about this earlier,
how I would write down the lyrics to Rakim's--
the hymn "Ramen."
I would write them down and study them.
And the concept that somebody wonderful, somebody young,
somebody old, somebody in the middle of any portion of life
is thinking about these lyrics and incorporating them
into their life and in their wonderful experiences.
I'm so grateful.
Thank you so much for sharing that with me.
I cannot believe this connection.
- Whew.
Oh, my god.
You mean to tell me that I'm somebody--
- It's very special.
Very special to me.
- Special.
- To me.
- To someone special.
It's crazy.
I don't know.
I need a minute.
- Well, while you take it, I'm going to tell you--
- Give me a second.
- So he walks over to me.
The class-- I finish the song.
- This is my life.
- Kind of, it's ours.
- Oh, my god.
- Yeah.
- Oh, my god.
From inside here, because there's nobody in here with me,
you know?
There's nobody in here with me.
So this is how I look at it.
Like, I'm not trying to not affirm you.
- No, I understand.
- You know, by saying that.
But I'm bugged out every day that this is my life.
This is what I get to do.
This is how I get to affect--
oh, my god.
And you're so beautiful to me.
You share my work with your mom.
you think about these things that i wrote
thank you
thank you
this is something so we're just gonna sit here and cry i guess
what else i mean i'm sorry i messed up my makeup keychain and i cut you off i'm i'm sorry no it's
okay no it's absolutely okay i when i tell you i understand i understand i'm just so glad that we
got to do a redo help i finished the the monologue everyone else who finishes there's this intense
applause and three people kind of give some feedback and then burt usually says maybe
something four or five people got notes from burt specifically the room is silent when i finish
and i'm like fuck i did not make the right call
and burt reynolds stands up he walks over to me the room is still silent he walks over to me i'm
standing at this point and he puts my hand his hands around my face i need you to understand
you got to get the fuck out of indiana he was like there are no notes he said i saw the whole
thing i saw the woman i saw the hot summer day what do you need in order to go and i said i
i don't live in la i live in i live in i live in indiana i don't live in la he said what do you
need in order to go i said well i need a job and i don't have a manager i don't have an agent he
said i'll make sure that you have representation when you get there and you have somewhere to work
to make some money when can you leave i was like i i don't know burt this is this is crazy
burt reynolds burt reynolds we end the class and he says i don't do this but i feel like if you
don't go now you may never go so whatever you need you call me and he gave me his
number and he set me up with an agent and a job and the flight to los angeles and so
when my first time in la was set up with this energy and this intention through this experience
and so my mom knows all of this right cut back to tyler perry's studio opening in atlanta we see you
my mom has had a couple margaritas nice and she said that's jill scott no it ain't shut up shut up
mom look look they're gonna oprah she's like but that's jill scott we need to go say hello to her i was like no mom
i'm you you can go say hi i'm gonna i'm just gonna stay right here i don't wanna i'm i'm okay she's
gradually on the hand we walked directly over to you and i was like mom and she was like excuse me
excuse me miss scott hmm this is my son he did one of your songs as a monologue do it for her i said
ma that's a mommy you said what i'm sorry what she said he did one of your songs as a monologue
do it for her and then you looked at me and you were like well
and i was like man on a thursday
i remember being like i cannot believe this is the first time i'm meeting jill scott and this
is how it is going down and you were so sweet there were people who were trying to get your
attention to quiz we were walking through and you were like you keep doing this and then you hug me
and then you know of course in the madness of all that we walk away and i was like ma but i've
always thought if we get an opportunity to do this again i want to be able to tell her why my mom
responded that way why she knew it was really important that we meet and that you know that
story because here i am now living in los angeles in this home living the life that i get to live
as a result of many things but surely also the impact that your artistry has made
on our lives and i think that as any artist you'd want to know
how real that is yeah had you at my house that's crazy
i'm trying to find other words because crazy don't really
no do it crazy it's just out it's just however willy-nilly all over the place no this is divine
intervention all of all of these occurrences to make this moment in our lives right because this
is our life i thank every bus driver that waited for me because i didn't want to run
i think everybody who came to my little poetry shows
you know, and spent their 14, $15 to support.
Ms. Fran Danish, who never responds to any of my emails.
Fran Danish, I just, wherever you are,
you taught me eighth grade English.
And I just want to, again, say thank,
I thank you in my book, but you didn't respond.
Lady, thank you for giving me Nikki Giovanni.
You changed my perspective.
And she made me read in front of everybody.
She would take off her shoes
and get comfortable anytime I read.
Go ahead, go ahead.
Shh!
Me?
- Yeah.
- This is the best life I've ever had.
- It's only getting better.
- My goodness.
- You see it in the art that you're creating, you know?
- People are going to be sick of me.
And I think, well, fuck you.
- Yeah, I don't know what to tell you.
- Fuck it.
I don't know what to tell you if you're sick of this
and you're like, oh, she's only so happy.
I saw somebody on the internet.
They were like, she smiles too much.
Baby, it's so much to smile for and about.
- And about.
- It's a beautiful existence.
Does someone have to see my pains
in order to appreciate my joys?
My pains are private.
I deal with them so I can come out whole and happy
and moving forward so it can inspire other people.
I mean, it's a good gig.
- Yeah.
- And you're going to give me some money for it.
- Right.
- I can take holidays and buy stuff that I need
to help people get through school.
- Right.
- For the last 20 years.
Thank you very much.
- That part.
- I like that part.
I'm able to do a lot of great things.
I do dope shit on the regular.
And I'm very, very, very, very grateful to do it.
I don't ever take it for granted.
This is fly.
- I love you so much.
- I love you too.
And I'm so proud of you.
I love to see it.
Living all the way, fully, completely, wholly yourself.
And then the audacity.
This plan without a plan, maybe, maybe not, the journey.
The journey that you've taken has all led you to right here.
And you look beautiful sitting in your backyard
with this multicolored fabulousness on.
Skin glowing.
Hair cut to perfection.
Dyed, mwah.
And joyful in your heart.
I'm happy for you.
Yep.
And I want more of it.
You deserve more of it.
Regardless of what anybody says.
Regardless.
Fuck them people.
- Fuck them people.
- Fuck them people.
With water.
- Yeah.
- I say, I mean, I'm in.
- I say, I'm in.
- Truthfully.
Truthfully.
Okay, it's too hot.
You ready to go inside?
Okay, let's do it.
- Woo.
- Oh my God.
My God on today.
- Ah.
Woo.
- Okay, I am so glad to have you here.
- I love games.
- Okay, so this one's called Make It Make Sense.
- Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh.
- Okay, so we've got some acronyms for popular
or often used phrases or sayings.
- Ooh.
- Buzz in if you think you got it.
And if you get it right, you get to place a letter
at our overall game puzzle.
Is this our first one?
- Mm-hmm.
- Uh, D-pay, D-pay, E-I-O.
- E-I-O.
- That was just, I was just kidding.
It was a celebration.
- See, I'm thinking duh.
- Don't play around you English imbecile or bust.
- Disputed paragraphs arrived yesterday.
Ethiopians, I-O, Obama business.
- Yeah, that's it.
- That's like West Side Guns rap.
- That's what it sounds like.
- Just one.
- I don't know.
- Okay, do we have a hint?
What's our hint?
- Never bet everything you have on one option.
- Don't put all your eggs in one basket.
- That was good.
- How'd you do that?
- That was like, I don't know.
What's our hint?
- That was good.
- How'd you do that?
- Yeah, yeah, yeah, you weren't supposed to.
- This is a game.
Okay.
- Yes?
- Ta-da!
- Okay, okay, okay. - Oh, you have a sweet dream.
Okay.
Okay, here we go.
Ooh, motherfucker.
- That's what I think too.
- Out of my. - My.
- Out of my face.
- That was a good one, that was a good one, okay.
Could it be out of my.
- Out of my.
- Feelings.
No. - Out of.
- Out of my fuck.
That's what it is. - I think.
- Out of my.
- I thought out of my face was good.
- I thought so too.
One of my favorites.
One of my favorites.
- Okay, no.
- One of my.
- Family.
- One of my friends.
- I said friends.
- I thought you wasn't good at this game.
- I'm not.
- What is it?
- But I'm watching her give you the answer.
♪ Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo ♪
- Low H.
- All right, there we go.
I'm guessing that's gonna be a word.
- Can we just skip to that one?
- All right.
- The.
- Next word.
Quit over telling 'cause.
- Quality over.
- The.
- Couch.
- Wyatt on the creek.
- No.
- Is it?
- You gotta. - Oh.
- You gotta.
- Oh.
- The.
- P.
- Nope.
- Okay.
- See, you can move it to another one.
- Okay.
- And there go your three, see?
- Dang.
- Yeah.
♪ Quiet on the creek ♪
♪ Quiet on the creek ♪
- Okay, what's this?
♪ Let me let me ♪
♪ Let me let me ♪
♪ Let me let me ♪
♪ Let me let me ♪
♪ Live in my life like it's golden ♪
♪ Living my life like it's golden ♪
♪ Living my life like it's golden ♪
buzz so here's the thing we started this game and you were like I'm not good at
this were you messing with me I think you're messing with me no do you still
love to sing that yeah do you yeah cuz I just wondered like there are there songs
that you're like who found ever to sing that one again I'll be good it is a song
that I'm like oh I'm singing it I don't hate to say but I was in a bad place
when I wrote it so I don't like to I don't like to sing it really yeah I don't
like that girl do you still perform it no I listen to it
every now and then what is it you really want to know I do want to know it's
called my love you don't like that song mm-hmm I was I was doing some things I
shouldn't have been doing and that is exactly when I met Nisi Nash I met her
at the airport and she was like oh what you doing you about to do something you
spot to do something bad and I was like but I tell you Nisi Nash be knowing she
be knowing
she does she and she's one of the sweetest kindest I just saw her yesterday
like sweetest kind she calls it she's just like she's like helpful loving just
wanted to see I didn't have a baby shower Nishi showed up with a whole bunch of
stuff that people gave her and beautiful things she's the best she is living in
life she knows how to work these these spaces too yes she does is that it dang
okay you got one more two is no he
so it's not so sweet face she's like oh she's not I want to give it to you but
now neighbors I spent half my life sitting in this vehicle driving the
studio sitting in traffic getting the car washed sitting in traffic driving
to events or dinner sitting in traffic but thank God I can listen to audiobooks
on Amazon Music Unlimited to get me through it and right now I'm listening
to Becoming by Michelle Obama and let me tell you her voice is so soothing too
because like imagine me getting ready to go off on the car that just cut me off
and then suddenly you hear in surround sound mind you when they go low we go
high Michelle we are becoming who we're meant to be but I'm not there yet but it
just lifts you up and that's what I love about audiobooks you can be driving
working out even cleaning your house and suddenly all that time that's passing
feels like it's giving you something back
and with an Amazon Music Unlimited subscription now you get access to
audiobooks too so that's music podcasts audiobooks all in the one app Amazon
Music get into it is you cool if you come out of the you come see
the hotel
if you come good or
took good what's our hint I think this your hint is if a task is too hard or stressful you should
leave if you could see the hell if you could see that you could see the hell I've been through you
could see the look on your face right now see the is it you could see the
it's not you can't salad sties your name if you can't see the you can't stay go over there if you can't stay
the heat get the fuck out the kitchen if you can't stand the heat get the fuck out the kitchen okay
okay get out the kitchen you put some letters up there let me see what you do what's this
what is it what is this is it the or is that not right too the
the blank blank on yeah yeah okay next one head bitch in charge good one hbic i figured you might
not know that one because you don't like the word bitch but i feel uh i mean i like it when it's
apropos i mean that's a bitch right there
i mean i like it when it's apropos i mean that's a bitch right there
Right, but not just that's my bed very rarely I hear that we have some trees with this
blank
It's not it's not
Okay, next one anybody want it, please
Anybody want it, please
Anybody ah, oh
Why in this place? Oh, yeah, all right in this place
That would have been crazy if that was right away it always in the
Problem a woman in
Hey
Wonderful
Intense
Therapeutic party, it's also related to a song of yours
What is it sorry sorry sound what is it a walk in the park
That's not a song of mine. No a long walk. Yeah, but that's a walk in the park
It's close
You're winning
I'll walk in the park
It's a four-letter word. It's two of them tour
The gist no
I need that this was a kind of related in that it has one of the words of one of your songs you took a
Break from music. Yes. I took a break. I had to take a break
I got a kid. Yeah, and it was that weird age, you know, yeah respectfully like is this weird
Yeah, you know stuff happening. He wasn't glowing. He wasn't shining and that's what I do. Like I like all my stuff to glow
Yeah, I like all my things to grow and he wasn't and I'd hated it
I was like, okay, let me pull back and find out what to do. We tried several different schools
The schools weren't working none of it. And then I happen to know someone amazing
Sharon green and called her acid
He's not glowing. What what is what's up? She said boarding school, really? Yeah, and I was a
School and she was like, yes we do and I got an opportunity to
Travel and see some schools and we went together and it's been amazing. Really? It's been amazing for him
It was a very good choice because he at this particular time. He got a chance to immerse himself
In his education and it was all on him. The stakes are high brother. Yeah, it's up to you
It's up to you and he's blossom. He's someone that I like and respect like I kick it with him. He's really really incredible
There's the list is is long and extensive
Really of all the things that he's been able to do and the glow is back when he was little it was there
Yeah, but school had made him feel I I believe that he wasn't smart enough
We went to a couple of schools here and then well two schools here and then a couple of schools in Tennessee
I didn't like it. Yeah, I didn't like it for him and I didn't like the way he felt
I needed him to believe in himself. He went off to boarding school and came back this
Responsible, I don't you mean I don't have to ask you to wash dishes. You're just washing them, right?
I just went to the other room and I come back in the kitchen is clean. Oh
Wait, so you're like really grateful as well
Very very good decision. What was
The thing that got you back in the studio like was there a sound was there a song?
Was there the absence of something that you were like, oh it's time. I kept getting invites DJ premiere invited me to his studio
I went and worked with him. That was fun. Then David Banner invited me and I was like, okay
I'll go to Atlanta and I'll work with him
They're guys that I really like right, you know what I mean?
And and musicians that I really respect and they were just asking me to come and work with them. I was like this feels good
I'm gonna keep recording and then I looked up and I had more songs that I knew what to do with I'm going to focus
I'm gonna make an album because this is a lot and I think this is quality work, right?
So let me just get to it. Yeah, you're gonna be singing these songs for the rest
Intend on it when you're a song writer or a singer. These are the songs that you sing for the rest of your life
Yeah, you know, so they have to be impactful to you, too
So other people can connect with them when you perform
Live we sure we have all the letters
That's what I'm saying fuck that bitch the right there
It's gotta be it's not fucking bitch. It's got to be fucked that bitch. That's fucked in it freedom balls
Free the balls freedom balls freedom breath feel the butter
Feel the beat. Oh, that was good
Be my heart and the beat in the dark forget
them
bitches
bitches
for
the through
beef
Wait actually pause this for a second
You may not want to talk about this when I think about friends through the beef. I've watched recently
the Dave Chappelle
I've watched the music video of her performance and I've watched the music video of her performance at her house party. Erica Badu is on stage and you are watching her perform
And one of the
Documentary is one of the producers asked my last nerves ask you if you were nervous
Yes as to say were you intimidated by Erica Badu perform? Yes, and you turned to him and said, have you ever seen me perform?
It was like the best
way to correct that assumption that was pressure
Oh, I know it was we were supposed to have a
topic to discuss
Everybody had to think of something that a platform that they wanted to speak on so I'm watching everyone
Talk about whatever political thing or spiritual thing they want to talk about
He got to me and the guys like he's French and he's like isn't Erica Badu the most beautiful girl in the world
And I said she's very beautiful isn't Erica Badu the most amazing singer you've ever heard. I said she's really amazing
He's into Erica Badu, and I was like
My name is Jill Scott
I'm pretty sure right that you're supposed to be asking me about a topic or a platform
Right that I want to talk about so that's why I said what I said cuz I was like
You don't even know who I am. Do you you mustn't you mustn't you mustn't I've heard her since
Talk about you and that time before that when the song came out
And the Grammy and all that stuff
And how she was operated operating in a way was kind of like in the dark, and how you both were in the dark
Really yeah, yeah, we didn't know you know we talked about this so much over the years
Yeah, she didn't know that someone had else had written it
I think she thought maybe the roots had I didn't know that I wasn't singing it
So I heard it on the radio on the street and that part came and it was Erica Badu
And I promise you I had about maybe
36 seconds that long
Where I was disappointed, and then it occurred to me
Erica Badu was singing what you wrote right man my chest swelled up
I'm walking down 22nd Street like y'all don't even know
I'm on
You don't even know
This is hap what's happening for me right now
Then I had a fish fry when the Grammys happened, and I invited everybody over I made collard greens and I
Made some trout fried trout and what and coleslaw and we all sat there watching the Grammys and they won
Yes, right
It's amazing that worked out yeah
The part that I was gonna bring up was not even necessarily that the hit that historical part
but I've I've since heard her talk about you two getting to know each other and
One of the things that she said about you was like she's such an incredible woman. She's such an incredible friend
She's such a great mommy
I love that thing and it was just like to me like thinking friends who the beef like this thick these situations that were almost
Kind of like primed for you to be at odds
And you seemed to just refuse to succumb to that lower vibration at least
in the long term and you see how it worked out that after all of these years
we're still here and we're here together you see how that works out you know I
think that the industry will really try to pitch you against each other yeah
because they think or the idea is that there can only be one and that is true
there can only be one Erykah Badu there could only be one Chaka Khan there could
be only one Whitney Houston that could be only one Diana Ross only one Nina
Simone only one I don't know what that is but it's beneath us it does not serve
it does serve someone not us but it is not us no no I think the younger girls
have really got a handle on it too you know we get better as we go but we still
have to acknowledge that this was a part of our existence but did you have people
in the industry who would once they heard you performing we're like okay we
won't we are in your corner I had a lot of people in my corner I still do
Steve
Harvey really Steve Harvey was an advocate of the radio show radio station
would not let him play my music what and he basically was like screw all of you
I'm playing this not only my playing it I'm playing it every hour on the hour
I'm not gonna stop and he didn't and that's how the music got to LA that's
amazing I thought so too like people listened
and then they were sharing and showcasing the music because I don't
know if I don't think it was a favor to me I just think they really
rocked with the music getting to know you after would have certainly been like
oh and I love her too right but also the music was is so it timeless it is pretty
timeless now time it seems that way but think about it too you've got your
Gladys Knight and your Chaka Khan's and Patti LaBelle's and they work with each
other as well you know it's like you have to fight for sisterhood right
there are some people that that battle with you or have jealousies towards you
most of the time it's not even them it's the people around them that are like
putting poison you know into a situation like motherfucker we all win it and it
could be winning even better we are all winning like this is a beautiful thing
we get to do something that we love to do and it's different levels of it but
isn't it different levels of everything he happy the lane that you're in we love
this lane and rock it rock this lane and when you're ready to switch lanes you
will there's nothing anybody could do about it knowing what you know now
especially having put out the first album on your own no not my first it's
my third third wait really mmm yeah I left the the record labels and all that
a long time ago had to fight for it oh boy geez Louise it was a smear campaign
for that one too really oh yeah because you wanted to walk away from that I
needed to walk away from like I'm not there's nobody around me that is that is
winning to where you know I feel like they should be I don't like that you
don't have the relationship I thought you had within this industry so
everything is based on me if I want to get a radio play I have to go to the
man's house and sing happy birthday to the God on Thursday morning at 11 a.m.
because that's when she wake up I gotta be standing I'm like this is crazy right
do you have any cool right you know
the music is good is there any way that you could support that I left and got
sued for nineteen million dollars what Jesus didn't get nineteen million
dollars who had nineteen million dollars off of me geez yeah and so now the third
album in independent people I don't think they realize it took me 27 years to
make who is Jill Scott it took me ten years to make to whom this may concern I
think I'm getting better you know a shorter amount of time same amount of
intention okay which I'm a short amount of time are we were already working on
the next album I was going for ten years I've got a couple what I got a couple I
got a couple not yet okay not just I mean now I know I have to stew a little
slow okay you know the ingredients are there so I have the work now it's how do
I maneuver so that people know about it and can support it how do I approach it
differently than this time this tour is no no phones you know so nobody can
videotape wait really yeah yes yeah oh thank you for saying that yeah thank you
for saying because I miss it you maybe get three minutes of like I was here I
had a really good time and then I'm in the show but then what you also realize
is that everyone else is also holding their phones up and some people are live
they're on like tick-tock live Facebook live yeah watching the show or recording
the show yes and it's like I didn't realize that until we did our own live
shows and I was like what is happening it feels like you're getting like
touched and everybody's okay with it yes it's very it's an invasion of
privacy and I wanted to be over and that's not how I want my job I love my
job I don't want to feel like oh I can't wait till this is over then I noticed
that people would take small parts of a show and make a narrative around it and
decide this is what she's saying this is what she's doing and this is who she is
off of this little bit no that's enough I got I want you to watch it but I don't
want you to judge it right I'm an artist in the moment and the show is different
every night I've never had the same show twice and I especially don't now but
everything that you see on the show is different every night I've never had the same show twice and I especially don't now but everything that you see
on the stage is meticulously placed everything every picture every piece of
carpet every everything you see that's what the ten years did focusing on my
person that God has given me to guide and help him you know so there's that no
no light affliction there massive job so I'm gonna do that and then also got an
opportunity to rediscover
opportunity to rediscover some things about myself I miss nor Philly I miss
some things about myself I miss nor Philly I miss seeing people that are like
seeing people that are like genuine we're shooting in in nor Philly and this
genuine we're shooting in in nor Philly and this woman came around the corner she
woman came around the corner she had a hand on my head she was like Jill I know
had a hand on my head she was like Jill I know you're not shooting a video out here Jill girl we love you and I was like yup right in the middle
you're not shooting a video out here Jill girl we love you and I was like yup right in the middle we're literally shooting in a tape came girl I was like yup this is everything
we're literally shooting in a tape came girl I was like yup this is everything
Philly love is something else it's true
Philly love is something else it's true yep I know it to be true especially now
yep I know it to be true especially now that I know that we weren't even
that I know that we weren't even anywhere close to water ice no but it was
anywhere close to water ice no but it was delicious but it was good it was
delicious but it was good it was delicious but I'm getting a ninja cuz
delicious but I'm getting a ninja cuz they're gonna send me one right listen
they're gonna send me one right listen Macy's hooked it up get you where you
Macy's hooked it up get you where you need to be all right and speaking of
need to be all right and speaking of Facebook theater bye fuck the
Facebook theater bye fuck the
Facebook theater bye fuck the bullshit you messed up your potential
bullshit you messed up your potential
bullshit you messed up your potential earnings you fucked me say it the bag
earnings you fucked me say it the bag
earnings you fucked me say it the bag we were like the bag that was a good we do
we were like the bag that was a good we do
we were like the bag that was a good we do that the vent yes oh no
that the vent yes oh no that the vent yes oh no that can't be right is it right
that can't be right is it right
that can't be right is it right gate oh I thought it was the goat goat no
gate oh I thought it was the goat goat no
gate oh I thought it was the goat goat no there's no oh next one right glue good
there's no oh next one right glue good
there's no oh next one right glue good day Lucy Ella quiz oh you got it you got
day Lucy Ella quiz oh you got it you got
day Lucy Ella quiz oh you got it you got this I do you do ugly God don't like
this I do you do ugly God don't like
this I do you do ugly God don't like ugly hit that buzzer no you do no you
ugly hit that buzzer no you do no you
ugly hit that buzzer no you do no you gotta do it you got it yeah what is that
God don't like ugly.
God don't like ugly.
You said--
The gent, the gist, the gate, the--
--gast.
There's an F in this one.
What?
In this one?
The gift.
Oh!
Oh!
The gift.
Gist.
The gist?
The gift.
The gift that keeps on giving.
Shut the way!
What?
The gift!
Damn, Gina, you got that.
OK, the gift.
I'm happy.
Ta-da!
Ta-da!
You know what the phrase, the gift that keeps on giving,
you know what that's a reference to?
You, because you are the gift that keeps on giving.
And the gift that's in you just keeps on giving.
And I'm so glad for it.
And I'm so glad to have you at the house today.
I cannot tell you.
I will be thinking about this.
I'll be talking about this until I die.
I thank you so much.
You're the bomb.
Can we take-- can we go swimming and then take a nap?
Yeah.
Yes, absolutely.
We'll do it right now?
Let's go.
I got a bathing suit and everything.
Let's go.
Perfect.
Everybody ready?
We all going swimming?
Yeah.
And that is a wrap on "Gift Shout," everybody.
Woo!
Woo!
Woo!
Woo!
Oh, I love you so.
Thank you so much for this beautiful time.
♪ Hey neighbor, our house guest is on the way, the way, the way, the way. A little bit of laughter, a lot of smiles. Won't you come in and stay a while? Hey neighbor, hey neighbor, yeah. ♪
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
Jill Scott reflects on the profound impact of Prince’s song "And I Heard" on her life, sharing that the first time she heard it during a concert was a life-changing moment that sparked her artistic journey.
She recounts a deeply emotional and surreal encounter with Prince and Stevie Wonder, where Prince spontaneously sang the song verbatim, and later danced with her until 4 a.m., symbolizing a pivotal moment of connection and joy.
Jill emphasizes the importance of self-acceptance, personal growth, and emotional honesty, acknowledging both the joy and challenges of life, including menopause and personal struggles, while crediting her artistry and resilience as tools of empowerment.
Summary:
Jill Scott shares a heartfelt and reflective journey centered on the transformative power of music and personal connection. She recounts the life-altering moment she first heard Prince’s song “And I Heard” during a concert, describing how it resonated deeply and shaped her identity and career. , creating a surreal and unforgettable experience.
Jill reflects on the emotional weight of her journey, including her roots in North Philly, her personal growth, and the challenges of life such as menopause and family dynamics. She emphasizes her commitment to authenticity, joy, and self-acceptance, stating that her artistry has deeply impacted others, including her family and fans. The conversation also touches on her new work in the film *Why Did I Get Married Again*, her evolving personal and professional life, and her belief in the power of vulnerability and connection.
Throughout, she celebrates her resilience, gratitude, and the joy of living fully in the present, even amid life’s complexities. Her story is a tribute to black women’s strength, creativity, and the enduring impact of music as a source of healing and identity.
FAQs
Jill Scott first heard 'And I Heard' during a concert in the early 2000s, and it deeply moved her. She recalls being in a state of emotional awakening, writing down the lyrics immediately and feeling a profound connection to the music that has stayed with her through life's highs and challenges.
After a concert, Jill Scott was in her dressing room when Prince and Stevie Wonder entered. Prince mentioned that Jill had sung a new song, and Stevie Wonder immediately began beatboxing it. Prince then sang the song verbatim, creating a memorable moment that deeply impacted Jill.
Jill Scott was in eighth grade when she first heard her music at a black college fair. The moment she heard her name and the song, she felt an instant connection, and the lyrics have remained with her throughout her life, influencing her personal and professional journey.
Music is central to Jill Scott’s identity. She believes her artistry has transformed lives, including those of her sisters and mother, and she feels deeply grateful for the impact her songs have had, both personally and on others.
In an acting class with Burt Reynolds, Jill Scott performed a monologue using lyrics from her song 'Love Rain.' Reynolds was so moved by her performance that he offered her representation, a job, and a flight to Los Angeles, which launched her career and changed her life.
Jill Scott sees her life journey as a continuous evolution—marked by challenges, growth, and joy. She embraces menopause and self-discovery as natural parts of life, and she finds strength in being present, joyful, and authentically herself.
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