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Your country has been invaded, there is no longer people there that represent the interests of Europeans, people of Europe. Wake up! Who has brought us into this terrible situation? Russian President Putin decided to escalate, you are crying, you are crying! Exactly! The West is escalating, what did you expect? Exactly, we expected you to die! Good work and hello, Vladimir, I was wondering if you were just for saying it sounded interesting, but unfortunately I didn't understand a word. I was saying that it's too bad, I told that interpreters also working both sides. I was saying that you spent quite some time in Russian that you made a couple of very important interviews that appeared on your site interview with Margarita Semenyan, interview with Mitri Pyskov and one of the rare journals that were trying to let voice of Russian leaders be heard in German speaking and English speaking parts of Europe and the world. Yeah, interesting, it was very enlightening for me and I just saw the new cover story of the economist is an interview or an essay by Andrei Melnychenko, the famous Russian entrepreneur and he speaks about the whole strategic situation and he says that the weakened Russia is not in the interest of world stability and he brings up the grand perspective and this I think is interesting that the economist which is not really guilty of too much sympathy for Russia, they are reflecting more the English, the great Britain position, but they are coming up with such an interview which can be an indicator that this need for understanding and for mutual discussion is growing. Let's hope. Roger, come on, come on, don't give me this crap. Roger, we just witnessed one of the most strategic steps on the scale of escalation that just happened in Ankara, the native meeting that basically declared war. Now this Europe is working as the rear of Ukrainian army that is sponsored armed by European countries. We just saw that European leaders after Aslik in Germany, they signed all possible deals on escalation stating that yes, they are behind and they are part of the deep strikes on Russian oil refinery and creating tension inside Russia for the purpose of enforcement Russia into peace and that it's okay to kill Russians, it's okay to deep strike that it's all, it's okay. That's escalation that can lead to peace, okay guys, wake up and smell the coffee, you want escalation, you'll get escalation. I'm not Metri Piskov and by the way it's not his responsibility to declare war or to decide what and how will be done by our military. Yes, we're extremely responsible state, so for the sake of surviving in this world, you think that deep strikes for our refineries create tension that can lead to enforcement as to peace, will destroy every fucking single refinery that you have in Europe because they're working for the benefit of Ukrainian Nazis and if you want to argue one more time that they, we cannot call them Nazis, go to Polish guys, they call them Nazis. Even the European parliament admitted that it's Nazis. You want suffering of Russian people, you'll get suffering of Europeans, all these blah, blah, blah shit, that well there are certain forces in Europe that they want peace, it's only one purpose, one purpose, get the temperature of the water in which you boil us up to the level without us saying that and you unfortunately, dear Roger, you have those beautiful wishful thinking, you're still trying to be good and you are good as a person, but you don't see that your country's has been invaded and that there is no longer people there that represent interests of Europeans, they have stolen, they've stolen what you thought is yours, nowadays they have zero influence on European politics, people of Europe wake up when finally you'll see Russian rock is hitting most important refineries in Europe. When we'll hit and we have to hit all those factories that are working for the interest of Ukrainian Nazis and they are on Europe, who's going to suffer? And of course, please do not buy houses and please do leave houses near those locations. Please do wake up guys, they've stolen everything from you, you do not control your own governance, it's controlled by homosexual lobby, it's controlled by Alex Skarp whomever, he has stolen the most important part of every single government, the monopoly on violence. Now the excessive use of force that has been always done only by the government has been delegated to Palantir. Now Palantir is deciding who's going to live or who's going to die. Now Palantir is deciding whether Russian girls in Starabilsk going to be killed or not or Iranian girls in the school, he is making decision with his protocol and his program, not the officials that have been elected. Governments are losing the most important monopoly that they've always had, monopoly on violence. You don't see it, you still believe it, good idea. I see it, I see it crystal clear, dear Vladimir, I see it crystal clear and now I'm going to tell you what you are not seeing at all. Please do. I mean there is one big snorting elephant in the middle of the room you never talk about. Now okay, you are raising your voice, I can raise my voice too, but I won't raise it. But I will tell, I mean who at the end of the day has brought us into this terrible situation? Who was the man who decided in February 22 in starting a special military operation which is now lasting longer than the Great Patriotic War, which even Dimitri Peskov, the eloquent and well reflected spokesman of the Kremlin, starts to call a full-scale war. I mean, Russian President Putin decided to escalate a situation in Ukraine where I agree with you, a situation, a crisis, a problem which has been created by the West. I agree. Look who's talking. No, no, no, no, no. Let me read 22. I was listening to you. That's his fault. Yes, he was listening to you. He was listening to you. I was listening. Let me make sure that he decided to escalate in that sense. If you do that, you have to win. You have to have an impression that you know, you have to know who you are up against. Russia, with this decision, your president, he underestimated Ukraine. He underestimated the West. And now you are crying. You are crying. Exactly. The West is escalating. What did you expect? Exactly. We expected you to die. Do die. Who is living in the world of illusion here? You don't hear me. Yes. I will. I will do that. I will do that. And you are right. And that's what I was telling my president, that we had to escalate up to the level, that no one ever will be able to fight Mother Russia. We were trying to conduct the police operation. We have destroyed Kiev as you, Motherfuckers, destroyed Belgrade. We have destroyed Kiev, Ivana Francovsk and Lviv as you are, not you personally, as your native forces destroyed and tried to destroy Baghdad, Masul and all the cities there. We were trying to be nice, amount of casualties that happened during this special operation is less than amount of people in Gaza being killed by Israelis. Yes, we were unfortunately too much humanitarians. We underestimated your stupidity. We were trying to protect and save people of Dhanbas. There have been killed in numbers with the help of your Motherfuckin governments. betrayed Yunocovich that in 2014 gave all necessary means to motherfucking Nazis in Ukraine that committed the military coup and you've been supported them for eight years, lying to Russia. During this time, you supported Ukrainian Nazis to set massacres in Donbass, when more than ten of thousand Donbass people were killed. On February, yes, that's true. On February 15th, you started heavy-shelling and bombarding Donetsk, Lugansk, that's led to that people fled from those places, sending their kids and the elderly and the women out of Donbass. You are preparing the same operation that you've done in Yugoslavia. You are preparing to kill Donbass and because the frontline went through Donetsk, it will take hours to destroy thousands of people there, Russian people that you don't give a fuck about. Again, not you personally, the western culture. And that's important thing, so we had to start it because in our national memory, in our national memory, it's 22nd of June, 1941 and we saw it's coming and we said never fucking again will be not prepared and we had to start it, but because we're fighting our brothers, almost our Miro, we wanted to be not cruel like you. We wanted to make it like special operation and that's why Putin addressed Ukrainian army saying we're not willing to fight you, we're fighting only Nazis. And that's why we went there without killing civilians. We went to Kiev and we were expecting them to do easy steps to discolate, to let people of Donbass live the way they wanted to. We were never talking about the Paragia at your zone, never. In Istanbul, they were ready to sign and that's what we underestimated you. You're fucking Macron and you damn liar and absolutely corrupted Gaboris Johnson. They told Zelensky, he'll give a fuck about Ukrainians, kill them all, you don't fight. And that's when it's, and yes you're right. So now if you want us to fight, we'll fight. You want to see what Russian soldiers, you Europeans will have to take this. You have wanted us to have the real fight, you have the real fight. You want us to see Berlin once again been how many times Russian army conquered Berlin, how many times every single century we're marching in Berlin. It takes, I heard that German culture is not exactly that stupid. But no, once again you want to see us, yes it's longer than Great Patriotic War, but it's still not as long as the war we had back in Peter's time. Come on, come on Vladimir, I mean it's after craziness to talk about Berlin, if your army is still in a very heavy fight, it's different war, but we don't have to march there. We can't destroy it, not without crossing borders man. Nowadays we can fucking destroy Berlin, without crossing borders as you understand. Why I mean you write it when I cannot speak, it's impossible to speak, why do you care about Berlin men? I care about world peace and I tell you I care about Russia, I care about Russia and I share under a million triangles vision that I say it's utter stupidity. I agree with you, it's utter stupidity by the west of trying to push down Russia to make a strategy, to make a strategic weakening of Russia, I see the rhetoric but Vladimir, what is the sense of now accusing the west, you agree, there's no sense, there's no one sense destroyed West, you're right, the only thing that we can do is enforce peace by destroying it. Okay, let me prove it that way, my question is to you Vladimir, now we are in a situation which is historically rather unprecedented, we have Moscow directly under fire, we have Moscow under attack, this causes huge problem for any government because the prime responsibility of a government is to protect its citizen. And if you escalate the war and Russia has participated in the escalation, Russia has not created the situation, I agree, but they have participated in the escalation. And if you're starting to talk about Russia, about Trump, about Boris Johnson, okay, that's an easy shot, but the responsibility also lies with Russia. And if you are doing okay, now we're striking Berlin, now we're striking Poland, we're striking all these guys, this is just pure desperation, this is crap. It is not desperation, it's world war, it's not desperation, the world war is there already, can't you see it, the world war is on, you're bombarding, you destroyed Libya, you destroyed Syria, you destroyed Afghanistan, you destroyed Iraq, you destroyed Yugoslavia, you destroyed right now Iran, and you destroyed Venezuela, you're making Cuba suffer, and you tell me there is no world war, are you blind? No, the world war is when Russia, the United States and China directly go against each other after their throw, is what we see now is fighting directly against Russia, is it world war? No, I mean, when Poland, what do you, what do you, what do you, what's the ultimate of charity, you want world war or you want still a peaceful settlement, there's no peaceful settlement, a peaceful thinking, Roger, Roger, what has been told in Ankara, there is no world peace, in Ankara they signed an agreement on the war on Russia, read the document, Roger, read the document, it's, Roger, it doesn't mean shit, the important thing is that you are going full scale war against Russia, so we have only one choice, either prevented by escalation, by bringing war on the territory of Europe, let you kill us, you respond immediately after the commercial break, as you say in Switzerland, I only use race, and I only hear you talking, now it's my turn, sure men, probably. Before I say a very important thing, subscribe to the World War. Against Steuers, the other light, incredibly critical, well-known, has been over 90 years, every abode has a deeper explanation to the opinion of many people. All of the details and information are found under this video, thank you very much. Right back, I think that there are a couple of important numbers that you have to, that you have to let Western audience know, first of all, we were speaking about February of the 2022, amount of Ukrainian troops that were concentrated on the front line with the Netsk and Lugansk war about 10 times more, that amount of soldiers on the Netsk and Lugansk side, so at this moment of time, Ukrainian forces concentrated 10 times more soldiers, amount of shelling for this week before we had to start special military operation was greater than ever during the war. They were bombarding the Netsk in a scale that they never achieved during coming for in the half years, so we were 100% sure that they are planning to start military operation on destroying the bus, so basically we had no choices. Those numbers are not knowing in the West, they never can see that on the West. That's why all the estimates and the evaluation is completely bullshit. For example, you know that Konstantinovka is the fortress, very important fortress, that is the seventh largest city in Donbas, has been liberated, and President Putin came with initiative to start local ceasefire, to let Ukrainians to collect their dead, and he refused. I came up with very, very scary idea. If they did not want to take the missed inactions and killed soldiers, maybe we should incoherence, put them in front of the European Embassy in Moscow, to let Europeans collect those corpse and bury them, because they are behind the war, because missiles that are striking Russia are using French components, volunteer as a target in meaning American made drones, they just called Ukrainians, but they're not. That's why our hatred to the West is growing up and that's why we already see that you are fighting the war against us. As Margarita Semanyan told you, how many Russian tanks, how many Russian missiles, how many Russian planes, how many Germans, French, American, a lot, fighting against us. Please go ahead. First, I have to correct you. There was one newspaper who wrote exactly what you just explained, the shelling, the build-up of the Ukrainian forces and it happens to be my newspaper, "Develtwoche", which addressed these issues, but of course you are right in the public consciousness, it's not there. Second, I share your concern. I think that escalation destroys reason and this is why I'm not participating in this escalation of words, but as you well know, words can become weapons. Now the third point, I get attacked a lot in the West because I have the positions I have, because I don't share into this mindless demonization of Russia in this totally absurd vilification which has lost all proportion, but still we have to address one thing. This is a question I ask myself. I think, but you can correct me. I think that President Putin made a mistake, he made several mistakes. We talked about the first one, I mean, if you are escalating yourself, even though you are in a situation of necessity, you have to know what you are up to and Putin underestimated the enemies. You can read all his speeches, how he was making fun of the West, Ukraine is a dysfunctional state, etc. He underestimated his enemies, and now we cannot go into whining melancholy of how bad and how evil the Westerners are if you go into a fight full scale, okay, you have to be ready for that fight. And the second mistake, but please correct me if I'm wrong, the second mistake was last year. I mean President Trump, he is NATO, the United States is NATO, forget Germany, forget France, forget Great Britain, these are, at the moment, these functional states, NATO is the United States of America, and the American President Trump is the American President who is unlike any other Republican President, he is on the side of Russia. I mean, you remember, back in 2017, when Donald Trump was asked by the Fox TV guy, Bill O'Reilly, what do you think about Putin? And he said, I respect him, and then the Fox moderator was totally astonished and said, what? You're respecting Putin, but he's a killer. And Trump said, well, he might be a killer, but you know, there are many killers out there, and don't you think we Americans are so innocent? So you have an American President who is not metaphysically against Russia. And he was eager on ending this war, and that is still his agenda. The moment he thinks by escalating it, he can bring peace closer. He might make a mistake, so you have to convince him that this is a mistake. But somehow, along the way, Putin was too stubborn. I mean, come on, for 10 percent of Donbass territory, you want to blow up the world? Are you crazy? Are you totally out of your mind? This is either a responsible talk, and once you'd never go into this kind of chamber of hell, not even rhetorically, so why didn't Putin just make a compromise? Why didn't he find an agreement with the Americans? Now Trump is also pissed off. Now he's helping a bit more the Ukrainian side. He said, well, they can have the patriots, they can license them in two years, probably they can build them themselves. But he's not aesthetically involved probably as some European countries. So you can lament on the Europeans. I share a lot of Europeans myself, but here in your program, it is my duty to address some of the errors I see or we see on the side of your president. And I have a respect for your president as well. I see his great achievements. I see what he saved Russia from the '90s. He was the great stability, or how you want to call him. He brought stability, he brought pride, he brought also stability on the world stage. He doesn't get acknowledged for that, he doesn't get the proper credit he deserves. But now he made some serious mistakes, I think, and why is Putin so stubborn that he couldn't make a compromise to end this war, which is now causing problems for Russia? And if Russia gets into trouble. If you are not able to protect your own people in Moscow, in this window of Russian greatness, if the cars have to line up in front of the gas stations, I don't know Russia so well as you, but I can imagine the people are not amused. And they don't think that their government is doing at the moment an extremely good job in protecting them. And the question is why is the Russian president so-and-so? You need answers. Why didn't he take the chance? Quite easily, first of all, sometimes when you run the country, you have to make decisions that you cannot not to make, that you're forced to make. Sometimes you have to make decisions when you're not completely ready. But if you don't make this decision, the outcome will be much worse. It was not our desire, we're forced to do it. And if we didn't start it at this moment of time, can you imagine in what position will be in a week or in two weeks, when Donbass will be already destroyed, and what will happen inside Russia, when Russian people will ask Putin, why we didn't do whatever we could to stop the massacre of Russians in Donbass, and that will lead to a press in Russia. And that was one of the major ideas of Western political leaders that were telling at first Prashenko and Danzeleensky to escalate. So we had to start it, although of course, we were not planning any form of big war for the last 30 years. It was not in plans of any military, at the same time you can ask the same question to Trump. Why have you started war in Iran, and you thought it's going to be over in two weeks, in four weeks, six months later, it's still on, and you're suffering and you cannot win. And you can't ask the same question to Europeans, how come that they started every single war, and they cannot end them, they stuck in Afghanistan for two decades, they've started in Iraq for decades, and they've lost them all. So how come that they've started military campaign, and they've lost them completely, and they got terror in their countries, and they could not protect the wrong capital from the terrorist attacks, need in Spain, no in Paris, no in Germany. So how come, how could you, what happened with all your leaders, they underestimated, they made all the mistakes, that's called real life, and real politics. When you're talking about Trump and Putin, I was not there in Encourage, I didn't know what they discussed, but what as far as I'm concerned, we've done all necessary steps, and we came to certain agreement, as was told by Mr. Rushekov, and as was mentioned by people from Kremlin, Americans came to us with proposal, and we accepted this proposal, and then they went to Zelensky, and they could not force him to accept proposal. So it's not a question of relationship with Russia and America, it's the question of relationship of Trump with Zelensky and with Europe. And if you remember, after Encourage, there was, especially after missing in White House when Zelensky was completely destroyed. Europeans went to Trump to change his point of view. So they are fighting for Zelensky, they are fighting against Russia. When you are saying, why don't you sacrifice 10% of your territory and you are willing to destroy the whole world, have you ever read the agreement of NATO, the document itself? You are stating that every inch, square inch of NATO territory is sacred and you'll find for it. And now here, telling us, they give away 10% of the territory. It's never been a question of territory. It's the question of people living on this territory. That's why we never actually wanted to conquer Ukraine because it's not that we need territory, where the largest country in the world. It's the question of people living on those territories and there will. And that's what democracy is about. The word that unfortunately is completely forgotten in the West. You don't, once again, not you personally. European political leaders don't even think about people living on the territories of those republics. They couldn't care less about people in Crimea, Zaparoshy, Kherson, Donbas. They made their choice. They don't want to be with Ukraine. They don't want to be under Nazi ideology. We are listening to these people and that's what Putin is saying all the time. So that's why it's not a question of just territory. It's much more important. Plus, immediately. If any political leader will say, "Okay, I can sacrifice my territory. Can you imagine what going to happen inside this state?" For example, Denmark. What they have to do with Greenland? They have zero, basically, interest in, according to Donald Trump. But according to the political forces of Denmark, we can never do that. It's sacred. And they are willing to fight for the land against United States. I'd love to see this picture. I'd love to see it. It will be incredible fights, probably about 10 minutes or 7 minutes. But get back to reality. When we're getting back to reality, you do know history of Russia quite well. Do you actually believe that by creating tension in Russia, creating all the problems for Russian people, you will force Russian people to say, "Okay, let's stop the war." Or you will force Russian people to say, "Okay, let's fight Europeans. Let's destroy them." You know Russian character. Where Russians will love to suffer? We will love to suffer and we will overcome. We will overcome all the hardships and all the misfortunes. Well, it sounds like Shakespeare, Hamlet, but it's okay. To be or not to be, that will be the question for Europeans. The answer for Russians is quite easy. Once again, West is willing to destroy our state. Has it happened in 1916, 1917, when a Russian political so-called leaders betrayed its country? It's happened in 1991, when Soviet leaders betrayed its people. It won't happen again. It's patriotic war, as far as we're concerned. We're fighting against Nazis. And of course, Nazis are trying to create hardship for our people. Okay. So we'll have to fight back. Are you ready? Yeah, but there is one essential difference. And this is why I'm totally against using this Nazi language crepe. Of course, crepe, guys, we don't have to pull these guys. We don't have to pull these guys, that is correct. Come on, come on. Let me tell you another. Because, you know, I know all this stuff. I know these are terrible guys. I know they have Nazi symbols. They have swastikas. These are terrible guys. It's a shame. It's a shame for Europe that we are supporting these people that our taxpayers pay for these kind of ultra-nationalist lunatics. Absolutely agreed. But if we start to talk, if we start to shape this conflict in terms of 41 to 45, the great patriotic war, there is a huge flaw in your argument. And the flaw is the following. Ukraine was a sovereign, independent state. They had an interior conflict with the Eastern provinces, with the Donbass. And of course, there was also Russian influence. It got out of hand. You had the so-called some kind of civil war. You have the situation in Crimea. But it's not the case that there was like some lunatic dictator in Europe sending three or four million troops through Ukraine and to Russia in order to destroy and enslave your people. I mean, this is also a war of war. You're choosing. It's not just the fate. You know, we had to advise politicians always have an alternative. And I think this is my point. You really don't get it. I had a conflict. We are not coming from Calvinist ideology. We completely from different set of mentality. And that's what I told you when we just started our discussions. That's the big problem. You look at us. And you think that we basically mentally, very close to you, but we're not. As far as we're concerned, there's no difference. Men, there's no difference. Nazis are killing our people. That's it. And we don't care whether it's three or four million people from Germany or whether it's four hundred thousand people from Ukraine. We don't care. But we know about saving Russians. They have a very important point here. You said this is also for the Russian audience important. I deeply regret that in the West, we are hypnotized, self hypnotized by our own propaganda, by this image of President Putin being the ultimate evil. What I see in your program and you are the Darth Vader of Russian television. I'm here to Obi-Wan Kenobi with my laser sword fighting your arguments. I see the same mechanism on your side. I'm not, I'm not your father. I'm not your father. No, I'm not, I'm not Luke Skywalker. Obi-Wan Kenobi. You know that they all really have to watch Star Wars again. You're not, you have to watch Star Wars again. No, my thing is, world history is a series of misunderstandings and don't dig yourself into a hole telling to yourself that we are in the situation like 1941. We are not. And the Russian, the Russian people, we are, you know much better than the Russian people. But if they have the impression that the Russian president has miscalculated, then their willingness to follow him is probably not there. And the second- You're wrong. That same mistake that Hitler made with Stalin. Yeah, my- He told it after six months when Russia lost a lot of territory and a lot of people were captured, that Russian people will fight against Stalin. That's what I'm saying. You do not understand Russians. We see where the problem is. Putin is our president. We elected him. And we never elected neither motherfucker Macron has been beaten by his wife. No shawl, snowmirts. We didn't give them a chance to decide our destiny. We are fighting for Russian people. We're not planning to fight. You decided to participate in this fight. It was your choice at first to support military coup to betray Unikovych. It was your choice. That's what Angela told to Russian prankers when she explained that was her idea to do whatever she could to support Ukrainians. They were doing this. They were interfering with this. They were planning this. And plus we have almost a thousand years history of non-stop war against West. So, man, we are people with memory. And we do believe that unfortunately you're not learning any lessons. I'm not talking about Swiss guys. But I'm talking mainly about, look at what Pistorius has to say. Look at what they signed in Ankara. Look at all those people are saying. But once again, you are pragmatic. You should be as a Calvinist. Well, you have to be pragmatic. If you put on your territory Europeans, Ukrainian manufacturing of military weapon that is targeting Russia, why it shouldn't be destroyed? If you guide and give whatever is necessary to destroy Russian oil refineries. What makes you think that you own oil refineries are safe and secure? I share these concerns, I address them, I voice them even on an international level, but on the other hand, you cannot, as Russians, and this is now a crucial point, you cannot unleash hell from your side. I mean, what there is one concern I have, and we can say that, there is one thing, one thing, please, please, there is one thing, I'm on the other side, I'm on the other side, you cannot understand. We are good, we will, you don't understand this, we'll go to heaven and you go to hell. You have no church, no Switzerland, but Germany, you have no Christianity, you have homosexuals running in your countries, you forgot all the Christian valleys, man, we discuss it to start with. Why do you think that you're on the side of good when you're the purest form of evil? You are the purest form of evil, man, look at Macron, isn't he evil? Look at me, is that he evil? Look at the end, Macron is a living dead politician, come on, he will be kicked out of his office, don't fight against this, but he's still there, he's bulky man people. No, you know what the point is, a problem is, and this is my concern. Sure. In the Russian government, with your president, and this is the difference to Donald Trump. You're totally right, Trump starts a war, he says I'm a beast bringer, then he starts war in Venezuela, he starts war in Iran. But you know what is the difference between Trump and Putin? Trump, he brings up so many war objectives that he can walk out any minute and declare victory, and this is my concern that your president, he can never say, oh, sorry, I made a mistake or he can never say, okay, let's stop it, it's not worth fighting for 100% of Donbass territory. He admitted that you're creating territory for 10% to reach the world war, what can never do that? Can never say I made a mistake because then he said, he did, he did, of course, he stayed with me. Putin said, he made a mistake, I can explain why, I can explain why, you should stop now, you don't understand mistake that he did, you never followed him, he said, I made a mistake, I should start it earlier. We will finish what we started, where Russians will always go to the very end, we will not stop and kill our goals, if we have to destroy you all, we will destroy you all. We have our goals, come on man, it's in Bible, when they go, I told you, you go and kill them all, isn't it? It's in the Bible, man, now we're talking, now we're talking, but we'll have to continue next week, and every time in the United States, if someone is totally desperate, he comes up with the Bible, you have spent too much time. No, no, no, no, that's important, if you come to the Bible, that's mean that you're religious and you believe in God, and that's not a desperation because hope isn't God. And in Bible. But when you start talking like, oh, when you start talking about Bible, that means that desperate, no, that means that you are on the wrong side, that means that you are on the wrong side, that you are on the side of homosexuality, that you are on the side of kids wrapping, that you are on the side of an abstain island, we are on the other side. And not personally you, but I'm talking about European politicians, name me just one representative of political leaders that right now in power in the West, that you can call real Christian, just one in Europe. Bundesrat, Ki Parmala, the president of Switzerland, Ki Parmala, he's a true Christian, he's a friend of peace, he's a true believer in Swiss neutrality, right? Is he a native, no, of a, a native, of course not, so a native, can you name me one? You'll have time till next week, dude, you'll, you have time till next week to remember because from a Calvinist, we are all on the wrong side. No, no, no, no, that's, that's you, but that's you, human beings are always, that's why you're a sect, not to really religion as far as work and sand, all those, you don't even have sense of human in Calvinism. It has been forbidden for many years, you will not even allow to smile under your level of argument. You will not even allow to have any jokes, that's why you cannot name even one great comedian coming from Switzerland. But, of course we have so many, Amy and Steinberg, he's the friend, you haven't even heard of him, you have no idea what you're talking about, there was so great that they will never hurt about him, that's already a joke, that's the best with joke, we have great comedians but no one ever heard about him, okay, we'll get back next week, thank you Roger. Okay, see you next time theology.