"Jessica Biel"

my sister just texted me i gotta look this up she says i have my 40th reunion next friday what the hell do i wear well i don't know you should probably wear something real sexy and you should also probably wear a smile and i hope all you are wearing a smile because it's in a whole new smart list smart i get to host you two ding dongs tonight at the house you're coming over for dinner oh yeah that's right yeah i don't i don't think you guys have ever been to my house for dinner what are you talking about uh i'm i don't i don't think you guys have ever been to my house for dinner you're totally joking of course jason what are you talking about well when is the last time then tell me when's the last time the two of you have come over to my house for well i don't keep a record of it but i've been there about 25 000 times for dinner i don't think so not just for dinner like sitting around the dinner table it is a plan for you guys to come over for dinner it's you know it's always just sort of casual you know i haven't done it but we were everybody's away but we did uh movie night one night last year yeah but see that's it but it's with a bunch of other people and it's kind of you're sitting around the kitchen oh no just oh you mean like sitting down sit down yeah that's true we i've done it like maybe twice at your place or once or twice where was where was we always like standing in the kitchen take out it's always take out we're standing around right just like oh yeah well that that's true i've never this is not a it's not a complaint i don't cook no but i don't do you well you guys you guys don't cook no i have no idea how to cook right i don't sean can you boil water i can't i make sloppy joes i just had tons of sloppy joes last week you did yeah oh and then and then you just spice it and make it chili what's the what's the diff i used to do that at my school they really think sloppy joes and the next day we have chili i'm like hey man i'm on to you okay i know what's happening hey wait wait what's tonight did you guys talk to amanda what are we having tonight uh i don't know she didn't say she hasn't taken your sean do you know sean you know your dietary limitations i have none why don't we have sushi delivered or something easy all right all right well that's a good question i don't know if you That's easy. Or that pizza. Easily expensive. Yeah, why don't we just have gold bars delivered? What are you? Sushi, what kind of life are you living? No, what about pizza? What about just? A lot of lobster? What about pizza? No. I told you about the time, JB. I told you about the time I witnessed Sean eating lobster on a private jet, right? Oh, no. It was in the dock. It was in the dock. No, not in the dock. It was a different time when we went to night. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And all of a sudden, and then I got a lift. And from these guys, and I get on there, and then all of a sudden, the person comes out with the food. You guys ready for lunch? And puts the thing down, and all of a sudden, starts to bring in lobster. It was incredible. It was unbelievable. I couldn't believe it. That just turned my morning around. All right. Oh, shit. Okay, good. I was just checking on this restart. Have we got a guest today or no? Yeah, we have to like. I was panicking if I lost my notes. We are having dinner tonight, so we can catch up later. All right. Wait, wait, wait. And then. And then, fuck. I think I may have lost my notes on this restart. Hold on. Oh, my God. Are you kidding? My intro. I've got my intro. Okay. You intro, and we'll chat, and you look for your notes. No, no. Here. Okay. And then, where are my notes? God damn it. This is all Michael Grant Terry's fault. It's got to be. What did he do? What did he do? Just somehow, it's got to be his. Michael Grant Terry. Can I just talk about. Oh, no. There it is. There's the notes. Our guys, Rob and Bennett and Michael need a. We haven't had a. Bennett Barber call. Bennett Barber call. Rob and Bennett. Michael, Bennett, and Rob grease the wheels on this thing. They make it happen. They keep the trains on time. They do so much stuff. They do so much for us. He's our producer. What a bunch of professionals. Okay. All right. I'm ready. Okay. You're ready. All right. I was vamping, but I meant it. All right. I mean it, too. I second all that praise. Love those guys. Third. Okay. All right. Here we come. Guys, we have with us today. A woman who has been a success in this business for over 30 years, and she's still going strong with multiple nominations and awards to her credit. She's been working across film and television since she was a child. Wow. Now, balancing acting with producing. Now, she's running her own production company. No, she's set to have one of her biggest projects ever released this October. It's massive. Massive. She has climbed Mount Kilimanjaro. She's sung at the Hollywood Bowl, Sean. She's a level six trained gymnast. Will, you met her on Seventh Heaven. You rooted for her in Texas Chainsaw Massacre. And you're about to ride shotgun with her in the Blockbuster Matchbox this fall. Guys, it's Kim and John's girl, Jessica Biel. Woo. Yeah. Yeah. Hi, you guys. Jessica, thanks for coming on. Yeah. Guys, thank you so much for having me. It's so nice to meet you, too. I'm nervous. My heart is pounding. I feel like if I had to take a polygraph test, I would fail. Yeah, no, hey, I'm excited to see that movie. I watched that trailer. I'm excited to see that movie. Rounds around a real track. And like, what did you get up to? Nothing crazy. I mean, I think we were around, you know, 80 or something. Kind of normal freeway. Because it looks so much faster when the cameras are rolling. Yeah, right. And also, the weird part was sometimes I was in a car where I wasn't even driving. And someone else is driving. And that was so much harder. We had people on the roof. We had people in the back. Oh, yeah. But it was so strange. Oh, you have to act like you're driving. Yes, but when I wasn't driving, it made me sick. You know, because you're so much more in control. When you're driving, you're in control. You know when the turn's coming. You know what you're going to do. When you're not driving, it's the strangest thing. It's the weird—I did—a couple times I did one of those big NASCAR tracks. And I did it with Jeff Gordon. And he took me around in Atlanta. And first of all, the bank, those curves are like—it's almost like straight down. It's almost like a full— Yeah. And so doing that, and you're not driving, I hated it. I felt—and I'm not a nervous person. I'm not a nervous driver or nervous about speed and stuff. But I was. And I also did it in a Formula One track outside of Austin there. At the—and I was so—I got giddy almost because I was so nervous. He was going so fast and passing people. And you're not in control. Yeah. It makes you feel like—you feel like this is it. Yeah. It's all over. When you were in control, though, Jessica, was it a rush? Like, did you understand why people do it? Did you get the adrenaline? Yeah. Yes. Yeah, for sure. I bet. I think— I started to really get into the speed. I think I'm just so used to having to be a responsible driver on the road and responsible for people's lives, you know, little lives. And it was so cool to get behind the wheel and know that everybody knew to get out of my way and that I was going to be safe and I could go fast. And that was exhilarating. So, yes, that adrenaline. I'm kind of an adrenaline junkie in most ways except usually in a car on the road because it's so serious and so scary sometimes. So, it's like—so, it's all—so, it's family car all the time for you. You don't have, like, your own little personal little sports car you like to zip around Mulholland on? I don't. I don't. No. So, we're talking full minivan. It's an Escalade. Yeah. Nice. Okay. So, it's— All right. It's a— Sure. You know, it's a—it's like a cool mommy car. It's a— Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a cool car. But I would love, like, a little Porsche or— Sure. You know, I really like—I really like those—those new kind of Bronco 2s. It's not—it's not— It's not a sports car, but it feels like a faster, sexier, cute, like, with a top that comes off. It's a cute car. Will, talk to us about the Bronco 2. No, I will not. I will not. Yeah, tell us how much of the Bronco 2, Willie. No, no, no, no, no, no. Friends don't let friends drive Fords. There we go. The Bronco was my first car ever, so I have, like—it's a—just has a—it has a little place in my heart. Jessica, I know you like the Escalade, but I'll tell you something. I'd love to get you into a Yukon XL Denali. Great. Send it my way. So, Jessica— I got a Turbo Max diesel. Go ahead, Jessica. I'm sorry. I'm terrible. Jessica, this whole love affair with America and the world in general, it started in Boulder, right? Oh, it did? With your outdoorsy, unconventional parents. What the— God, that's so—it's so judgmental. Is that so weird? The way you're saying that is so creepy and judgmental. I know. I was like, what is he going to say? Oh, were they— Yeah. Were they carefree? Jessica, this is how I'm saying it. Him and John, they just— Fresh air. They're out there— They're out there playing grab ass in the woods. You love the air. Yeah. How did performing come into your brain out there? Were you guys— In Boulder? Were you guys doing, like, little shows for one another? Little kids running around in front of hippy-dippy mom and dad? God, that sounds gross. It's all on Wikipedia, you guys. It's so offensive, the way you said all of it. It's so creepy. It's so, so creepy. And did you say grab ass in the woods? Because, yes. Grab ass in the woods. That's what was happening. I don't know, you guys. All I can remember is— I was one of that— I just was that annoying little kid that was like, Mom, watch this. Turn the video camera on. Mom. And she's like, okay, great. Okay, we're done. No, no, no, I have more. Watch again. You know, it was just constant. Like, I was just constantly performing, doing dumb things that were not cool. She was pretending we're cool. They were pretending we're cool. But where did it come from? I don't know where it came from. It was just always within me. Like, did you watch a ton of TV? No, no. We didn't really watch a ton. We didn't really watch a ton of TV. No, they were playing grab ass in the forest. We were grab assing in the woods. I don't know what it was. I used to imitate Nadia Comaneci. Remember that gymnast, Nadia Comaneci? Sure did. 76 Montreal. I would be like— I would do it over and over. Like, watch this. And I would imitate that. Like a heavy breathing after. You'd really land your— And this dance, right? Oh, you did. Oh, sorry. You were imitating the ather, not the actual gymnast. The end pose, which is important, too. Yeah. You've got to snap it. Now, well, that brings us to your training as a gymnast as well, right? At about the same time? Yes. I want to see you do that, Sean, so bad. I want to see that, too. You can see it on Will and Grace. He does a lot of that. Do a round off and then the breathing. And then where were you in order of siblings? I'm the oldest, and I have one younger brother. Okay. Now, where was gymnastics? Gymnastics was a serious thing for a second. It was. You were training for that. It was a serious thing in Boulder. I was playing soccer. I was doing gymnastics. And I was also. Football. Football. I was playing football. Yeah. And I was, you know, I was randomly getting involved with an agency, like a talent agency in Denver, and literally doing commercial acting classes in the summer and that kind of thing because I was interested in that stuff. And then I started to get tall, and gymnastics started to kind of, you know, not really be my sport. And I had to focus on other things. And I was. Were you getting commercials? Not at that time. I was just learning how to talk about products like you, Will, because you're really good at that. Oh, thank you. You're so good at product talking. Well, what's your favorite car, Will? Well, we've already mentioned it, but, you know, the Sierra comes in, and the Sierra EV is tremendous. So then when did you discover, okay, I got to get to Los Angeles. I got to get out there to the Oakwoods, get myself a nice studio apartment, and start knocking on. That was my life, Jason. That was my place. I was there. Yeah, of course. I was there at those Oakwood apartments in that studio apartment with my mom. What age were you? Going to pilot season. I was 11, 12, and 13. Did it three years in a row. Wow. Wow. You know what? Really, okay, now I'm remembering. Sometimes I have these weird blackout moments where I forget about my life. Do you guys ever have that? I know. It's the weed. Is it the weed? Okay, figured it was the weed. Yeah, a lot of that's a weed. I mean, I'm from Boulder, so you guys get it. Those goddamn parents of yours. Yeah, you got a head full of rope. Go ahead. Correct. It was music, weirdly. I was interested. I was like a theater kid. I auditioned for Annie when I lived in Connecticut. We took the train to New York. I wanted to be Annie. That was my dream, so it was all really music stuff. And then it kind of switched into acting somehow. So then you're out there for 11, 12, 13 pilot season. Did we book a pilot? Ignore them. Did you book a pilot? Wow, Will's register. I did, Seventh Heaven, finally, when I was 14. I just turned 14. And I booked Seventh Heaven. That was your first gig? That was kind of the first real gig. That was the first pilot. And then Uli's Gold with Peter Fonda, like, booked at the same time, which was like an indie movie. I remember that. Oh, my God, yeah. Yeah. That was a great movie. And we will be right back. And now, back to the show. So, now, were you old enough, savvy enough to, like, think about, okay, well, I've got this television career potentially starting here. I've got maybe this movie career starting here. How can I balance both? Which one do I want? Were there any sort of that type of thinking or no? Were you just like, great, work, work, work, great. I'm not in school. Yeah. I think it was, oh, my God, the dream is coming true. I'm working. I'm not in school. I'm living. It's happening. And I didn't think much about it. It just, you know, showed up. I just showed up on set and just started doing my job every day. Right. And it was smooth, but you had to stay there. Now, you're not living in Boulder anymore. You're not seeing your friends anymore. Moms have her dad or both are having to relocate. Right. Was all of that kind of, like, fun, weird, uncomfortable, or would you even pay attention? I remembered it being, or I remember it being fun for me. I think it was a nightmare for my brother. I think my brother was like, what is happening to my family? My mom and I were here. My dad and my brother were in Colorado. Then they eventually joined us in L.A. And we lived in Calabasas for a while after getting out of the Oakwood apartments after a while. And then. Now, what about brother? Was he thinking about or tempted or encouraged to act as well? Never his interest. He was an incredible. Discouraged. He was discouraged. None for you. No, he was a crazy, talented soccer player. So he was just very normal lives, going to school, playing soccer. Tell you out there. In the West Valley, there's a lot of soccer. I played years of it out there in Woodland Hills. Same. I did, too. That's a lot. That's a lot. Good level of players out there. Really, California players were just seriously good. Oh, yeah. Is that right? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Baseball and soccer. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Jessica, how many seasons of Seventh Heaven did you do? I did four full seasons. And so I did basically my entire high school career on the show. And then went to college for a little bit. And then once that happened. and I kind of came back and forth a little bit and did some little storylines that lasted three or four episodes, but never really came back for a full season after that. Right, but they were like, just come back and do this, and please just come back and do this. But did you find that you, doing that, so how, sorry, you were 14 when you started doing Seventh Heaven, is that right? Yes. So what a great, and what a great way to learn to go and do the sort of the discipline of doing a TV series day in and day out for those four, in those formative years must have taught you a lot. Everything. About, right? Oh my God, well, I went to film school there. That was like film and TV intensive program. I had the most incredible cast and crew. It was such a supportive, cool environment. Just a bunch of kids, like all the wonderful actors playing my siblings and the parents. And I learned, I mean, the stuff I remember so vividly is our amazing camera operator who taught me how to stand up and sit down and do things. Sit down on a chair, you know, because I would go like, I was all over the place. I was like, you got to stand up and then you got to slowly sit back down and you got to make it smooth. You come back up and find your light. And I was like, what the fuck does that mean? You know, I learned to find the light, stand up, sit down, get emotional in front of strangers, do crazy things in front of people I didn't know. I mean, get comfortable doing all of those things. And for Tracy, there's a phrase for this. They call it, I need you to groucho a little bit when you stand up there. Yeah. You know what that means? That's a groucho Marx. You know, when you see groucho Marx, you kind of like when he walks and he's got the little cigar and he's kind of like hunched over a little bit. That's their phrase for like, when you come up, don't shoot straight up because they can't keep you in the frame. Right. If you come up fast, they want you to kind of like ease up a little bit like groucho walks. I learned a lot. Jason, what an impression of groucho. I didn't know that you. Oh, look, there he is. Yeah, thanks, man. Thank you. Thank you. But JB, you had the same experience, right? Like as a kid, you learned, you kind of learned, you learned to fly in flight. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You learn a lot. But what you don't learn is how to be a kid. You don't learn about like yourself because you're not in school a lot. Here we go. How is that? Here we go, Jason. By the way, every time you say JB, I think you're talking to me. Jason, get off the cross. We could use the wood, okay? Yeah, JB. JB and JB. Yeah. So, Jessica, how was that? How was, how were you managed, did you manage to maintain a semi-normal upbringing? Were you going into a normal school during the hiatus? Were you going back to Boulder or would you stay working with a tutor? No, I was, I had, I did have a school in LA that I was working on a program through. It was like one of those weird school for, for, for like bad kids, you know, or weird, weird kids. And I was like one of the weird kids who never showed up. You wasn't on a bus, was it, by any chance? I'm just shot in the dark here. Thank God, no. Okay. I know, Jason went to school on a bus. We didn't have room for it. Oh, man. So, I, I just, I, I never really showed up back into real school, but I was playing soccer and my team was everything. I missed every practice. You probably did the same. And I only showed up at the games. So, I was like sort of good and also really bad at the same time because I never practiced. What position were you on your soccer team? I was a right midfielder. But what about you? Left half, yes. Left, left inside forward. Okay. I had a left foot. So, they really took care of me there. That's right, they should have. But I, I was also that weird kid that like I would, I was super fast. So, I could run with the ball really well and then I would miss, I would miss the goal every time. Like it was the most. Not much of a shooter. It's so embarrassing. No finish to your game. Nobody wanted to give me the ball. They were like, oh God, there she goes again. And I was, I just, you know, but I was like really positive. Totally know the feeling. Believed in myself. If you can provide good, if you can provide good service, that's okay, you know. Then they, they probably bring in a quality finisher with you and then all of a sudden you know that. Yeah. All right. So, so we're wrapping up Seventh Heaven. We're now, we're, we're, we're kind of a big star and then we get into Rules of Attraction perhaps. Yes. Yeah. Brett Easton Ellis novel that's, that's a little not quite so Seventh Heaven. Right. Were we thinking about, was there a strategy now starting to come in a little bit? And, and we're, we're, we're, we're, we're approaching Texas Chainsaw Massacre. We're approaching Blade. We're approaching Stealth. We're starting, we're, we're starting. This is like full slate. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I want you to lay down on the banquette. Okay, we're going to go deep here. Take us on this journey. But like things are, you're transitioning into being an adult. Yeah. And we're no longer like a teen star and, and it's exciting and it's nerve wracking, I'm, I'm, I'm assuming. We're making a career of this, yes? Yeah. When did that switch for you to be like, oh, you know what? I'm in a business. You know, when did that occur to you? I don't know. I don't remember. Um, probably. Yeah, when you had to start paying rent. Probably. Yeah, when I, when I came back to LA, I never finished college, which is a huge regret. Um, and. Try not finishing high school. Yeah. Sorry for you. That's, that's rough. It's okay. It's really, really rough. It's okay. Still working on it. You got this. You can do anything. You can do anything. Well, in fairness, the bus, gas prices have gone high. And. We could not fix the left rear tire. It couldn't complete the loop. The loop. Um, all right. So, so, so, so you're getting into adulthood. You'd now, you've moved out of Colorado completely. You're now living on your own in Los Angeles. Yeah. And we're starting to knock down some movies. Um, how are we feeling about living in Los Angeles by ourselves? Um, uh, mom's gone back home. Brother's back home. Yep. Everybody's back home. I'm in LA by myself. How do we like living in LA by yourself? I mean, I, it was good. I think it was, it was, I think it had a, you know, nerve, nervy at some times and feeling kind of. Got a good circle of friends. Yeah. Had a good circle of friends. But, but so, but you're coming off the show and you're going to start doing some movies as Jason sort of started listing them. And there, there is that moment of like, hey, is this going to, am I going to, am I going to sink? Or am I going to, or am I going to make it here? Do you, do you remember the moment you, a certain job? What, that you went like, okay, this thing is going to, we got some legs here to kind of make that transition into films. Well, if you guys will remember, that was a time where you really were only on television or you were only in film. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think, I think I started to feel like, oh, this is a business and I'm going to have to work hard to make that transition. Because everybody knows me as this very kind of proper sort of good kid on this show. And now, I have to cross over into another part of this industry. And show that that was just a character. Yeah, I would say, I would say Texas Chainsaw was probably one of those, one of the moments where I thought, okay, this is a really good move for me. This is really opposite, really different. Same with Rules of Attraction. Very opposite. So, I was getting a little bit more calculated and honestly, I think I was just interested in doing something totally different than what I had been doing up to that point. So, yeah. And was it, were these ideas coming from you or was it agents? Like, I guess I'm pretty sure I guess I'm pressing on all this stuff because it's like, it's so weird for a kid actor. You start thinking about these strategies. It's like, well, wait, but I'm just like playing different people and pretending, this is all pretend for me. Just going back to like what you used to like do in front of your mom and stuff like that. But then, you start to think about, well, God, I got to make a career of this. And what are the keys to longevity? I mean, I'm just like thinking back then if somebody told you you're going to be, you know, you're going to be 30 years into your career and things are going to be better than ever 30 years from now, you know, like would you have gone like, oh shit, that is great. Like, did you think that that was, that that was something that's easily- Are they better than ever? I still feel, I don't know. I mean, I know you guys are like really famous and have it all together. But I still, I am still fighting my way back into the film industry. We all are. Oh my God. All of us are. Every single job. It never ends, you guys. It never stops. It never- But that's healthy. Is it? It is. Yes. 100%. 100%. If it was, if it was easy, it would be, it would be- Yeah. There really is no security on anything. Could it be just slightly easier? Just a little. Let me make some calls. Would you want to make some calls? Then it would be boring. All right. Let's talk to, before we jump to today, we're still on the journey. We're still carving out great jobs. What about this? Tell me about- Is this not boring? This journey is so boring. No, no. It's exciting. I want to know, Sean wants to know if there was any dirt on the set of that super, super bowl cast of Julia Roberts, Anne Hathaway, Bradley Cooper, Jessica Alba, Kathy Bates, Shirley MacKinnon, Ashton Kutcher, all the, on Valentine's Day. I mean- Oh, yeah. There must have been some kind of like- That was a big movie. Non-sensory or- Or pranks. Anybody play any pranks? God, I can't, I'm telling you, I can't remember anything. It was just fun and- I just love those movies. You know, we, we nobody worked together. We only worked with like one other- All these stories were so separate. So- Right. I only worked with my people- Everybody's on for a week. Yeah, and then you're off and you're gone. I know. So, and it was so long ago. I don't even, all I remember is eating so much chocolate and running on a treadmill and then getting off the, off, out of that scene and just puking all the chocolate. Because Valentine's really- I mean, it just was chowing during this one scene and just threw it up everywhere. It was, that's what I remember. What about, and what do you do when you have long shoots like that? How do you, how, how do you organize kid time and who stays where and how do they come with sometimes and all of that? Well, she didn't have kids then. Did you have kids then? No, no, I didn't have it then. Oh, oh, oh. I didn't have kids then. Oh, that one's Sean. Don't jump ahead, Sean. Sorry, sorry, sorry. I'm with you, Sean. I'm ready to jump. This story is. Now, at this point, do we run into the woman with the greatest name in the world, Michelle Purple, and do we start Iron Ocean? Do we start your production company? Michelle Purple started back. Get over here immediately. Just get over here and say hello. Come on, Purple. You have to come over. No, but this guy's here. Oh, this guy. Is that Michelle? Michelle, you look just like Justin Timberlake. Say whatever you want. I can't hear you. Hi. Hi, Mr. Timberlake. How are you? Yeah. We were talking about Michelle Purple. Oh, yeah. Hi, buddy. Welcome to Smartless. Yeah. Hi, how you guys doing? Hey, Justin, do you remember when I was nominated for a Teen Choice Award and I came into your trailer and you wrote on my stomach? He sure doesn't. He sure doesn't. Good to see you guys. I just came to see if you wanted something to eat. No, thank you, baby. I'm good. She needs some tech support. Yeah, tech support. Do you want some food? Right now? Not just. No, I'm okay. Okay, bye. He's literally trying to see if she's safe. He's like, are you safe or do you want me to get you out of this? I think I'm going to sit down with you guys soon. Yeah, get in. Oh, good. Oh, good. See, now they're really excited. They're so excited. We're excited for this. Like, so whatever. Just take over. No, no, whatever shit you say about me, I'll get to retort. Okay. Yeah, yeah. There we go. Great to see you guys. Bye. You too, pal. Sean, I can't wait to rub your belly again. Okay. Okay, thank you. He does remember. Wait, was it a rub or a write? He wrote on my shirt. What did he write on your shirt? I don't remember. Just like an autograph? No, but I framed it and I gave it to my niece. Do you guys want me to ask him to just come back and like I can slide out? No, are you kidding me? He just told us. Wait, by the way. He just told us that he's coming on the show, which I guess means that that's a secret revealed. It is a secret revealed. We're all doing visitors now. We have another visitor. Oh, Willie's youngest. Hi. You can't hear them, but just say hi. Listener, that's Willie's youngest, Denny. Yeah, what a sweetheart. Wait, Jess, he said. Look at us. No, yes, yes, yes. Yeah, okay. So, yeah, he just revealed that he's coming on the show. He said anything you say shitty about him, he can retort in his episode. Give us a shitty story that happened this morning or last night. Something that we can hold his feet to the fire on. Yeah, about food. Or watching movies. Anything, anything. Does he grab the remote? Like, does he ever let you take charge of the movie? Oh, I've got a good one. I've got a good one for you, which happened this morning. So, we have this little cute fitness space in our house. Sure, sure. And we have these cool accordion, you know, these accordion windows that kind of fold into themselves. Yeah, like on a honey wagon. Yes. Oh, a honey wagon. That just brought me back. A honey wagon. Do we need to explain that to Tracy? I'm not sure. Is that true? Tracy, there are these trailers. Yeah, we did before. That service dressing rooms. I was thinking of something else. Okay, go ahead. Yeah, that too. They're small dressing rooms. Anyway, okay, so the accordion windows slide open and then you have this pretty view and you can work out with the windows wide open. Cool. I put the alarm on last night, went to bed, woke up, and started, you know, pulling shades up and the shades in the gym kind of went, kind of looked like they were getting sucked into the corner. And then I was like, oh, I'm in the corner of the window and started to go up and had a big crinkle in them. And so, and I was looking. Can't have that. And I quickly brought him back down and walked over. Accordion windows had been left open all night long. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Uh-oh, that's not good. And honestly, I was- First of all, that alarm needs to be updated. That was my first thing was who did not connect these ginormous, scary windows to the alarm system, which let me turn it on. And don't you live, you don't live in Los Angeles. I don't. We live in Montana. And that's the other thing. We have humongous animals here. Oh my God. And if they, they come in for garbage. So we could have woken up to a bear in there. Yeah. Yeah. My dream. Or a couple of elk or a moose. Again, something else. Sean's thinking of something else. Sean wakes up to a bear every morning named Scotty. So there you go. Wow, that's interesting. You can give him some shit for that. What about, you know, Scotty and I just, we always have this thing with the TV too, where like every night when we watch something, oh, wait, can you turn it up? Oh, God. Can you turn it down? Oh, God. I'm like, well, if you're going to, if you're going to man the remote control, then you have to deal with me saying. Yeah, you have to be willing to take. Yeah, you have to take direction. Who gets the remote? You or Scotty? Scotty. Scotty all the time. Always, of course. I don't even know how to, I don't even know how to- He's Johnny Tech. Although I will say his phone went off the other day at a service and I was like, hey, Johnny Tech had his phone. I know, well, that was for his diabetes, thanks. So Jessica. Oh, jeez. Nice one. Alert, alert. It was, really. Have a donut. Have a donut. Have a donut. Was it really? Was it really? Yeah, it really was 'cause it was diabetes. Donut, grab the donut. Yeah, and then I just grabbed it instead. Oh. We'll be right back. And now back to the show. So wait, oh, by the way, you know what else I saw because I'm on TikTok a lot. Sure, hold on one sec, Jessica. Go ahead, Sean. No, I wanted to say. I wanted to say how funny it was because there was a TikTok trend a while ago and I saw your hilarious response to, what was it? Moms used to startle their kids by saying Jessica or something like that. Oh, yeah. Huh? Oh, yeah. What was that, right? Remember that trend? Yes, that really happened. That was like a thing for a minute. Yeah, where, where? Tell me, I don't know. Oh, it's so funny. Well, Jess, you tell it. Well, it was just, if the kid's having a meltdown, they would go, Jessica, Jessica. And the kid would literally go. And stop crying. And stop crying. And look around in panic. And I literally was like, guys, Jessica's are nice people. You're making them scared. You're making your kids scared of us. We are not trying to, you know, creep you out or freak you out. And it definitely doesn't work for my kids. My kids are like, she's going crazy, finally. She's just saying her name over and over and over again. It does not work on your kids. How old are they? 11 and six. Oh, fun ages. I got a six. Is he six? You just met my six-year-old. He's six. Yeah. Aw. So sweet. That's a great age, isn't it? It's a sweet age. Yeah. It's cute. But wait, wait, Jason, you were talking about Purple. You were talking about Michelle Purple. Oh, yeah. Who's Michelle Purple? Let's go. Let's get back to her. Who is Michelle Purple? Michelle Purple, okay. I'm so glad you brought her up. I know you hear this all the time, but she is your number one fan of- Me? Smartless. She is the number one fan of this show and is so excited that I'm talking to you guys. And she literally said to me this morning, she goes, if you fuck this up, if you, if you embarrass me or us or our company, I swear to God. And I was like, I'm going to do my best. So let's go deep on Purple. Okay, let's go. So she's your business partner, I'm guessing? She's my business partner and has been my best friend for over 20 years. She ran Rob Cohen's company. She produced Fast and the Furious, Triple X, and Stealth. And she hired me, her and Rob hired me for Stealth. That's how we met 20 years ago. And then we were in Australia together shooting Stealth. And we became really good friends and started watching movies together. And that, talking about going back- Then you poached her. Then you poached her. And I poached her. And she was ready to be poached. She wasn't sure what she wanted to do. And honestly, I- But she knew she wanted to leave Rob. She knew that. She knew she needed to move on from that. And I said to her, hey, let's do, let's make a production company. Let's do it. And she was like, you don't know anything about that. And I said, you're right. But you do. So let's do it. She's like, this is a terrible plan. This is a bad idea. So for Sean's sister in Madison, Wisconsin, tell her what starting a production company really means. What did you want to do with starting Iron Ocean? Okay, so when you started- With Michelle Purple. With Michelle- Michelle Deep Purple. Purple. Michelle Purple, the best. Jason, do you know her? Are you good friends with her? We're deep. We go deep, deep, deep Purple. Deep Purple. Does he know her? Deep Purple. I don't think so. Oh, we're gonna. Okay. But guess what? She wants to know you. Great. So she should come for dinner tonight. She might change her mind. She lives in LA. Or at least let's have a Zoom for a development meeting on something. Oh God, yes, please. Anyway, production company. So that was a moment where I really wanted to take charge of my career and not just sit around and wait for the phone call of like, you have an audition or you have a this or that. Sure, right. She wanted to take charge of her career. And so we started this tiny production company not knowing how to do any of it. Well, she knew how to do, she made big films. Big action movies and we wanted to make small movies about women and female stories. And that was when nobody was doing that. The only company that was doing that was Drew's company. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Flower. Flower, flower. With the great, with the great Nancy. Nancy, with the Nancy, with the legend of all time, Nancy. I love Nancy too. So that was that, literally we would go into, you know, we'd go talk to our agents and managers and tell them this idea that we're doing this thing. And they literally looked at us and would just blink with blank faces and go, do not do this. And we were like, we're gonna do it. So we have been trying to make movies and TV shows for 20 years. It was so hard. We did almost nothing for 10 years. And then did you do, did you do Better Sister through Iron? Right, so through Iron Ocean, we did The Sinner. We produced The Sinner, we produced Climetown, which nobody saw, which was such a bummer and was such a good show. But taken from a podcast, so teach us how to do that. We're looking to break the smart list movie. - I love "The Sinner." love that that was great thank you um better better sister candy cruel summer you had to work with that that liz banks gal on better sister though how did you get through that oh that this this woman oh that's more than anyone i know and max and max oh max i love her she she's a delight the best they're the best they're just delightful and fun she's so fun god she's cool she does so much shit i'm like how does she do so much shit i know she's impressive jessica can i ask you so you did all you did all this stuff remember sean asked you before when he when he jumped the gun as he does about having kids and you had kids at the time or you didn't have kids but now when you go and you do something like uh matchbox and and and um and then you go you're in you're in hungary you're in morocco you're in slovakia and all these places and you gotta and we we deal with it i know a little bit of what that's like but how how are you at managing that and dealing with that with the family and traveling and doing it because you can't come back it's a constant over there right like yeah because not only do you have to do the thing not only do you have to do the job and be concentrating on 12 hours a day 12 hours a day you've got all these people and kids who who you're responsible for and you have to make sure that they're having a great experience it's not it's not easy no it's not and it's a constant balancing act um sometimes i think i do it better we do it better than others and other times it's an absolute shit storm yeah right and we and it should be it should be noted that we know that a lot of people out there obviously everybody in the world deals with work and kids and stuff like that and so we're not but it's also adding in just the travel element right you know being overseas a few occupations that that have the same thing you know right not the least of which is military and um yeah i mean uh athletes and politicians and all these they're they're stationed around the world all that kind of stuff it's it's very very difficult that travel element how do you guys do it well usually we try not to work at the same time but that did not work at all for matchbox justin was on tour um in the middle of the the global tour which was insane he was literally in south america or he was in he was in north america and i was in budapest with the kids they they came for seven weeks we didn't see justin for eight weeks then we met back up in the bahamas for a week then i went to morocco then he went to south america and my kids went back to montana it was it was wild the only way it works is the incredible nanny team support team assistant team colleague team i cannot do this my life does not function without like all of those incredible and you guys have family in montana with you near you we don't have well justin's cousin rachel and my kids cousins hawkins is here but we do like my mom doesn't live here my mom lives in colorado his parents are in um tennessee my dad is in hawaii so we're all over the place so we don't really have kind of the we don't have grandparents close by yeah unfortunately which is a bummer yeah but you but you make it work and you figure out and you get great people to help you and those become i think that that's that's pretty normal it used to be generations ago that you had family around to help and now because people live in all these places as you pointed out you have to have people who can help you who become part of your family oh my god and help you yeah yeah same takes the village all right so what so you're done being uh incredibly prolific as as an actor as a producer um your your your job at home which is even harder um when you're alone what would what do you do to completely oh yeah what what what do you do that would surprise what settles you that would be surprising to people oh wait you know what don't listen settled unsettled don't listen to will you don't listen but his voice is so hypnotic it's all like i know it gets in there oh my god it is getting in there like how do you decompress how do you reset i i like to just zone out and stare at a baseball game on a television screen uh that sort of is just very meditative for me what is there something that that that takes you back down you usually it's exercise or getting outside and just you know taking a walk taking a hike walking the dogs or training hard do you have headphones on when you're when you're when you're outside or or do you can you get quiet with your brain a little bit of both i like to listen to books on you know like books on tape whatever yeah sure whatever you want to call that um listen to like i i love to read i love to kind of dive into that kind of imaginary space world and also just to listen to the birds and listen to the wind that for me i love like a good forest bath i love that yeah of course i love that that's the name of my production company jason we were jason we were talking about this the other night at dinner sean you didn't come because you had no plans and we were at it jessica you should know we're all together and we're leaving this place and we're going for it because we're all in town again we've just shared a very emotional bonding yeah evening at a memorial for a good dear friends memorial the great sean and scotty go home they got nothing to do and then they go home they don't they don't come with their best friends for dinner yeah i know i don't want to remash and hold each other no no i just i was just what was it wheel of fortune was starting probably a b i i was tired c jeopardy too okay jeopardy's jeopardy's before wheel of fortune you're tired from from what so but anyway my point is this uh jb you and i were talking at dinner about this idea of there's not enough premium these days paid on for for the idea of just sitting around and having nothing you're not holding your phone you're not listening to anything you're looking out the window you're just alone in your thoughts and just that sort of in in that kind of state and that is where people say like oh you know where does creativity come or whatever it comes out of boredom it comes out of letting your mind wander and i don't think you ever do you do that who me no she does she says yes no she said she's outside out in the forest but but but to your point just like sitting there forest bathing i mean you got to do it but i need more of that in my life honestly i i can get into that space where when i do come home i'm like okay now it's time to work out okay now it's like oh what's happening for the kids tomorrow like there's not there's not much time and you really do have to carve out that time to sit quietly you know when i find it you know when i do it these days we were talking about i do it on airplanes i'll often force myself to not read not to watch a movie not to whatever and i just look at the window like a dummy drooling looking out the window yeah and i just wait can i go back to the forest bath thing is that a real okay no it is a thing yes we can go back so wait is is it a real bath in the forest no you fucking god damn it we shouldn't have gone back i'm so sorry you guys that's my bad she's in a cialis ad she's just sitting in a bathtub out in the forest what are you talking about i fell into that trap i walked right in i don't understand it's just the sounds it's okay so you put that sound on you're just like walking through the forest bathing in the sounds of the forest let this let the force wash over you okay but let's talk about a bath but let's talk about a bath versus a shower because it's great segue let's get into the bathroom because a bath because a bath is 10 times more effort and work than a shower yeah wait are you saying you prefer the bath or not no prefer the shower the bath you gotta turn it on you gotta be the right temperature you gotta wait i forgot about turning it on you're right that is hard you're right can i wait wait i feel like jb you might be into a hydrogen bath no i you're kind of like a longevity what's that like person right i don't yes i don't mind working on my longevity for sure i don't mind working on my longevity for sure but what i don't like about baths is not only as i've discussed before on this show you're just doing your own juices but you've got to get out of the bath and then shower do you because you've got to get well of course you do because you've been sitting in your filth for 20 minutes how dirty are you jb jason and it's your dad's voice again it's your dad's voice again stop that's your dad's voice that went up it's not filth jason you're not dirty jason you're sitting on your own tell me but just just give me the math just indulge me for one second okay you get into the bath you're you're not clean before you get in the bath right can we agree upon that you've taken your clothes off so you just got your dirt and your sweat whatever from your day and you get into the water where does all the filth go still in the water the drain is clogged so that the water doesn't run out right so you're still in all the dirt that was just on your skin oh my god i just realized i am a disgusting human and i have been so when you get out of the bath you got to take a shower i do often take a shower jason most i would say 95 of the time i am taking a shower after the bath except when it's hydrogen bathing and you're not supposed to do that what's hydrogen because it's pulling the detox it's detoxing you but what is that and then i love that it's in the water you just got to get out and then i think you're supposed to leave that on your body am i wrong about that jb but what's hydro well how is hydrogen in water i don't know about it is it like epsom salts it's like a it's a machine that injects um the hydrogen gas into and makes little teeny tiny bubbles in the back in the back and it's a detox carbonated carbonated bath yeah it's like you're it's like you're in a soda does it work i like a bath i love a bath i love a bath i also love a crazy epsom salt bath like with 20 pounds of epsom salt i'm not kidding that works something can i tell you one of the most relaxing things in the world to do is to smoke a cigarette in a bath i love doing that with a little you have a little tv on in the corner there will yeah i did i wait what about but let me ask about epsom salt like is epsom salt supposed to do what is it supposed to do your skin Why do you have so much of it? It pulls stuff out of your skin, right? Isn't that part of the science? It's definitely going to detox, but it's going to take the inflammation away. So if you're soaking with so many pounds of it, like to your body weight, you wake up next morning snatched. You know what I'm saying? Did you say snatched? I did. Snatched. You wake up snatched. Snatched. Yeah. Like if you have a, you know, you got to shoot the next day and everything, you know, your whole body, your body is basically a giant hemorrhoid, guys. It's going up. It's going down. It's going up. It's going down. Yeah, it's inflamed. It's inflamed. I can wake up slightly thinner, a little bit more taut, less water. Not even slightly thinner. Like it's gone. You are snatched. Do you ever, do you ever pretend when you're in the bath that you're shooting, do you ever pretend you're shooting a commercial and you take the sponge and you just kind of wash your arm? You know, like they do in movies and commercials. You mean like slow and sexy alone in the bath? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Do you ever do that sometimes? No, not ever. No, you know what? I like scrub like it's the end. It's the end of my life. Okay. You know, I'm like trying to, I'm like scrubbing so hard. It's not cute. I take a shower like Karen Silkwood. I'm just in there in the corner just crying. Yeah, yeah. But, Shawnee, can I come back to you for one sec? Sure. So you're in the shower and you slow things down with the, first of all, there's a sponge in the shower. Did I get that right? Yeah, there's always a sponge. Yeah, yeah. A loofah. But I do, but I do think. And you slowly drag it across your arm with a slight grin as if you're in a commercial. No, I do scrub. But I do. You know what I do? When I wash my legs, like my calf, I'll hold the sponge and move my leg, not move the sponge. What fun you have in the shower. Dude, I'm just a progression of humans. You've just learned so much. Yeah, I'll do this. Watch, Jess, Jess, watch. I'll do this. I'm watching. I'm watching. I'll do this. If this is a thing, I'm like this. Definitely show it. Oh, that's incredible. So it's kind of like a little workout in the middle. It reminds me of the guy I know that masturbates. He masturbates missionary style. Oh. Lays on his bed. He lays on his bed, stomach down, and he just fucks his hand. This is a guy I know. Okay? He's as stupid as you are. You fucking moron. Hey, Jessica, I love having you on this show so much. I love this shit. What a joy you are. You're the greatest. All right? What a pleasure to have you on the podcast. Take that as your parting thought. You know what I mean? I'll never forget that. It's an image you can't forget. I thoroughly enjoy you, and I hope we can meet in person one day. I've been a fan for a long time. Me too. Yeah. You're the greatest. Thank you, guys. This has been a lot of fun. Enjoy the rest of your bath today. Yeah. I can't wait for the car movie. I'm going to be taking so many showers. Yes. Matchbox, October 9th on Apple TV. Don't mess around. Oh, that was three days ago. Today's October 12th. Happy 12th, everybody. Jessica, love you. Love you, guys. Thank you. Enjoy the rest of your day. Bye. Goodbye. Goodbye. That was great. Oh, my fucking God. That's the great Jessica Biel. She's great, by the way. You are welcome. She's a delight. She's a delight. I want to do the outro. I'd give her her due. Her movie, you've got to go see it. Matchbox, it came out this past weekend. I'm telling you, the trailer was incredible. I can't wait. The trailer was amazing. Well, that's going to be huge. It's huge. She's great in everything she does. She's such a talent. JB, walk us through your body. This guy, this guy, yeah. This is, by the way, he's not the same guy, but he's also friends with the fella who doesn't chew gum because he doesn't understand why you'd chew something that you never swallow. What? These two guys are friends. Both friends. Yep. So, this is why I'm constantly shopping for new friends. I'd love to find time for the both of you. We're going to start tonight at dinner, and I hope it works out. What are we going to have for dinner? Sushi and pizza. Wasn't that the request? Yeah, you know what? I could eat sushi. I could eat sushi. Here it comes. In chunks of 12 pieces. Right? So, that would be? By the dozen. Oh, I thought you were going to say 12 bites. Oh, sorry. All right. Bye, everybody. Bye. Holy fuck. Smart. Less. Smart. Less. Smart. Smart. Less. This is 100% organic and artisanally handcrafted by Michael Grant Terry, Rob Armjarv, and Bennett Barbico. Smart. Less.