Jensen Huang Quits NVIDIA, Hegseth Impeachment Fails & Bukele vs. Haiti’s Gangs | PBD Podcast #890

Did you ever think you would make it? I feel I'm supposed to take sweet victory I know this life meant for me Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here You are a one-on-one? My son's right there I don't think I've ever said this before Okay, so let me give you guys a disclaimer before we get started I don't want people to overreact to this There's a very high likelihood that by the time this podcast ends We're going to find a fourth woman for Jensen Huang There's a very high likelihood And we are going to try to break the story Because first there was a Chinese spy Then it was a co-worker Then it was another girl And now what's going viral is He's been a meme, man He's been a meme He's a meme everywhere This guy doesn't discriminate They put all the pictures of different girls What it looks like Some people are saying, why are people surprised? Because how do you have time to do something like this, right? Look at his last name I mean, that kind of a last name I know Come on No, no, but I'm talking scientifically I know If it's a last name And if it's true That's a lot of people that are interested in that kind of a product And so, you know, that's that part We have Delayed reaction to it Tom's dying today There was a delayed reaction to it Double entendre Double entendre Listen, it is what it is That was a dad joke with a five-second delay reaction But let's go on A damn good one By the way, what are the chances You're going to have NVIDIA's story And then Microsoft Hey, just out of curiosity in the comment section Can you guys tell us If you've gotten your emails from Microsoft Outlook Since 12 o'clock yesterday Depending on the time zone you are A lot of people have partial Which means you're getting the new emails now But did the old emails come up? Let us know if you are or not Can you run a poll? Matter of fact, because we've got to talk about the Microsoft thing People are saying Is this like an attack? You know, Microsoft's saying It's got nothing to do with attack from China But maybe it is There is no attack from any other country But we're still investigating the reason behind it So people are concerned How does a multi-trillion dollar company Get attacked by somebody that sets off A business model that Thousands and thousands of companies rely on And use on a daily basis Millions, tens of millions of employees Business owners, executives rely on this Imagine the disruption For all the businesses We're going to have to talk about that Because Tom's been pissed off Here's one thing with Tom If Tom doesn't get his email on Outlook He's going around to people Because he's going to use the old school email You know what the old school email is? Coming knocking on your door and talking to you Tom's like, hey, where's my email? And he's like, listen, I'm trying to email you But the system's not working Steph Curry, he responded to the comments Made about his wife being in a movie And there's a scene about kissing And Steph Curry responds, I think to Gilbert Arenas I don't know who it is, but he responds to The fact that he's in a movie and there's a scene about kissing A couple guys, we'll talk about that Then, heck said impeachment Collapses And this part's an interesting story Because Tom was bringing it up this morning With Hakeem Jeffries Who was one of the guys that voted against it And people on his side are like, we thought you were a true believer We just wanted to, why are you doing this now? But it's very, very smart The way he's doing it You've got to give the guy credit for being strategic Tom will give you insight on why that is Then there's a girl I don't know if you guys have seen this girl campus Story Ilan's investigated this Every angle, he has breakdown of what's going on over here With the monkey comments Racist, girl got kicked out She's raised $30,000 on GoFundMe We have to get into that story Zelensky and Kushner went for the negotiation What do you call it? Witkoff, they went out there There's a picture of Zelensky, he looks like he's held hostage He looks very worried He's like, shit, I better do what they're asking me to do Or else I'm going to lose something Who knows what it is We'll address that And then aside from that You know, the diesel deal with Putin We'll get into that as well Victor Davis Hanson calls out Omega And he says, hey, what is this all about? You know, your anti-corruption message Loses credibility when your standards change Depending on who benefits from it So the same standards we use against Biden We should use against you Victor Davis Hanson is not a light voice He's a very credible voice with a lot of reason So people are saying, hey, he's saying this He's not a dramatic guy He's giving a message like this We ought to listen to what he has to say But then there's another message that comes out Because within that, I think the Lena Haber $50 million The client is now cutting the contract I do think she got paid a couple million dollars I don't know what it was, $13 million But there's that part And then Victor Davis Hanson turns around, Vinny And he says, do you realize The affordability concept Of why they won midterms Is all BS And Van Jones validates What Victor Davis Hanson said What Victor Davis Hanson is talking about To say they convince you using bots Not bots, using real people Some people call bots They convinced you that it was affordability They screamed off the top of their lungs And everybody believed Maybe things are worse than they've ever been Wait till I have Victor Davis Hanson Give you some of the stats on that Bukele, you know what Bukele does? If Bukele ever tweets And there's somebody that's his enemy And you post the house of the enemy And if Bukele tweets at you saying Can you give us the address? If you give the address You may be responsible for killing somebody Because that's what happened He got the address And he went to his guys and said Hey, check this out Send a bunch of drones And blow that guy's mansion up You have to see Are you guys following this story? Yeah The guy is like Hey, be nice to Bukele We've been saying this for years Be nice to the guy You know how he speaks? You ever seen how he does interviews? You show America's a great country And what we did is We cleaned up crime in El Salvador But do you know how he speaks? He speaks inside of him Yeah I will A fire A raging fire Outside it's like Everything is great Listens to Kenny G Listens to Chad Day But on the inside He's listening to Tupac hit him up Like he's one of those guys I bet he listens to hit him up I bet Bukele listens to hit him up I don't recommend you guys listen to it But I bet he listens to hit him up And a little bit of Eazy-E Scott Besson moved to a military base We got to talk about Then there's an Amazon ring Introduces the new drone Did you guys see this video? Yeah Which is like Hey, the drone You leave your house Guess what? Drone goes up above your house Just to monitor what happens around your house Then you come back to the house Comes back down So security We'll show that to you Some of you guys may want a product like that And then I read a story From a guy That Was playing football Gets an offer to go play for USC And then while he's going there He and this girl Have consensual sex She accuses him Of rape They end up getting I think a couple million dollars Then after they end up getting a couple million dollars This guy's supposed to go into the NFL Mom sells the house apparently To get the money To get lawyers Because they don't have a lot of money The guy goes to prison five years When he gets out She reaches out to him They schedule a call He finds a way to record everything And she reveals to apologize That none of that ever happened I'm so sorry you went to jail for five years And then they use that recording against her And then she says I'm sorry I don't have the money I ran out of all the money I have to play the story for you I think it was on my 60 minutes or something Incredible story But with that being said Vinny's got news for us Vinny tell us what's going on And by the way I think this is a byproduct Of us spending a little bit too much time lately At Bass Pro Shop I Literally one of my favorite places We were in there for how long? 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Smith Did a great interview Of the president He was at the White House And he was like And Stephen asked A very good question About Jensen Wong And he said So do you think He should step down And he says I don't know He's a very good CEO If it wasn't a Chinese spy Maybe different But because of that it's a chinese spy it's a we have to handle this situation in a different place but do you know what percentage of the employees voted for him to resign and step down and what percentage wanted him to stay 88 of all the employees don't want him to step down wow they want him to stay 88 of employees said we want this guy to step down but he resigned and there's a lot of other stories coming out i'll read you a couple messages of what other people said about it meaning their opinions these are entrepreneurs business owners what they said about it on why this took place is it a good thing is it a bad thing let me read this to you i'll try to find it and get it to you guys here in a minute but it's it's one of the biggest stories that we've gone through here let me read this to you if i have to say here we go okay cz from binance 110 billion dollar network it's a mistake for nvidia to let jensen resign palmer lucky from andrewal as well as uh oculus china wants jensen out so i want him in zero headset elon please hire jensen elon responds that would be an honor to hire jensen pavel durov i believe he's from signal or he's from uh one of those apps could be signal could be another one on telegram i think he's a telegram ceo unfair that ceos who aren't into asian girls get fewer dating options from spy agencies where are the french russian iranian honeypots not one spy girl was sent my way are they even trying france has excused their decision-making aren't into girls everyone else try harder pedro uh dummings ceos have affairs all the time get over it brian johnson the guy that wants to live forever it's all hands on deck for the human race and nvidia needs its founder uh at the helm naval you think we had learned from steve jobs and travis kalanick that one does not just simply replace the founder there's a lot of stories like this that's coming out of course there's a lot of others on the other side tom where are you at now with the story of course what we had on friday and then now uh we'll wrap with this story go ahead so this is where i'm at um i look at it this way and this may be a take that that a lot of people don't like but um if this had been mark zuckerberg he would still be ceo and but i'll tell you why because procedurally zuckerberg's board with his stock and the dual class stock cannot be they could not fire him instead the guy that founded nvidia the guy that was driving this forward has this i think that the only reason that he's gone is i think i fear i speculate that that deal with that uh singapore company where the chips went to the singapore company and the chip certain chips that weren't supposed to go also went to a through a university shell i think it is allegedly i think that maybe the board has heard about that and maybe there's something to it because otherwise why wouldn't you defend the inventor and just say this say look this is what we're going to do he now officially has a chaperone a 24 7 security guy and we're doing the following and he's going to go to sensitivity training and all those things that they talk about he's going to apologize to everybody he's going to do this then he and his wife are going to figure it out but he's staying here as our ceo but he is on probation damn it why wouldn't the board say that why does the board just in 48 hours go from zero to 60 and he's gone i think it's the story about the chips going to the singapore company and to possibly an educational shell and those were the wrong chips and if that's the case i think the board's trying to get in front of it question for you who's the biggest loser and winner of this story biggest winners and losers of this story because i'll tell you who i think is the biggest winner but go ahead i think one of the big winners is companies like micron that make chips i think one of the big uh winners is going to be a chinese ai i think that's a winner i think one of the losers is basically 401ks across america even though right now the s&p is back in 60 uh 66 50 is where the s&p was and it was um make sure i got that number right but the s&p is back within uh excuse me 76 50 76 my god 76 50 you know um just scared the crap out of people i know people just called i scared the crap out of myself i gotta go change the underwear you but it's we're way up from where we were at the beginning of the year and um 7800 was our peak zone and so now we're within 180 of our peak zone so the market appears to be calming down a little bit but one of the losers is the ai market did not need additional wind when the market was you know who i think is the biggest winner here's who's the biggest winner trump's the biggest winner in a different way and i'll tell you why all the midterm stories are gone everybody's not focused on jensen huawei complete distraction people are over the midterm stories now it's the jensen wonk every day locking on this thing and you know everybody forgot about all the other stuff in this story how long you think this thing's gonna last i don't think this is a one-week cycle story no i think there's gonna be investigation i think so you make a really good point i think this is a couple months story it's like when um gavin newsom sent a thank you note to eric swalwell yeah exactly so what do you stand with i think that china's the big winner i think the ai race is a bigger deal than people realize i talk about it a lot but i think it's a big winner i think the ai race is a bigger deal than people realize i think the ai race is a bigger deal than people realize i think the existential threats of ai all the time uh i i do think this was potentially their intention to get him out there is a national security issue here which is bigger than just the idea that he had infidelity which has to be discussed also that's the real reason he's gone i agree with tom 100 they're trying to get ahead of something is what it feels like they know if they get rid of him now and then there's a bombshell story in a month that it won't have the same impact on the company if he's not there if he's not ceo so that i think that's exactly what i think is actually taking place right now uh but yeah the whole ai issue for me is a much deeper issue i think china's just trying to vinnie um i i'm gonna take a completely different angle once i hold on one second hold on hold on i'm sorry i've had my my whole mic yeah my life is closed out my question is this this is my question for you tom and and it kind of goes with military generals when you think about military generals is a lot of times when you look at guys like the in the book of lincoln on leadership he talks about general mcclellan versus grant and there's a chapter he has where it says search until you find your grant okay search until you find your grant if you type in search until you find your grant i think it's chapter 11 or 12 and what he talks about is you know he kept relying on mcclellan to go execute and get the war done but mcclellan kept saying we need more training we need more training we need more training we're not ready finally lincoln's like dude get the hell out of the way then he brings grant he says hey i need you to go finish the war you know what grant does he goes finish the war and he says hey i need you to go finish the war doesn't hear back from him can't get messages back back from grant grant's not tweeting back he's not texting back he's not whatsapping back obviously back in the days it was none of those communications it's calm that they're using and lincoln was pissed and then eventually grant calls and says hey guess what what we won the war and what happens to grant i think he becomes a two-term president not necessarily the best president but he was an incredible general you know what grant's flaw was he was an alcoholic he had a terrible temper he was an alcoholic mcclellan was presentable mcclellan was a guy you would take into a room you're like oh wow look how presentable he is one won the war for you the other one was presentable it is the job of a ceo tom for you as an investor you've never met jensen wong you've never met tim cook like do you care tim cook is gay you probably don't care tim cook is i didn't know he was gay till no like six months ago when somebody was like he's gay i care that he's great with operations that's what you care about what what role does this play in this kind of a business to have a driver how much of the role because it's a complex question that a lot of people are disputing and debating on social media is this guy's job to just hey you and your wife marriage is not working out at least get the divorce then go do your playing but he's one hell of an operator where do you stand with this this is not roger goodell representing the nfl this is a guy where this is the u.s needs to stay ahead on ai this is we're up against china this is global things going on this is deep security this is energy in america with data centers my goodness this guy is one of the four horsemen of the ai apocalypse this is serious stuff and i'm i'm concerned about it i loved his leadership he remember he did he's just not the chapter of nvidia he's not the oh this is the ceo of general motors for the last 20 years because this guy was there in the beginning when they were building accelerator cards that would later become the the thing that propelled the video game industry and alienware computers because he had these incredible video cards where video games took off this is the guy that started there this is the guy that went from video cards to making a bet on this and then driving it that this didn't just go hey look at the ai market we're gonna go build chips for it he built chips for it and then he built better chips for it and then he built bigger chips for it and he left intel in the dust and so should have he been fired no i by the way you're saying no unless the board can we can we do this unless the board is looking at those chips in china can we yeah but those can we can we do can we do this i'm coming to you can you run a poll he should have he should have been fired and resigned okay perfect you guys are running it go ahead you have a different position no i fundamentally come back to that whole idea that there's a potential national security risk here that specifically because it's a chinese spy a hundred percent if it was just infidelity if it was just the ethics of he's not the greatest human being in the world i think there's way too much on the line when it comes to ai to fire him for that reason I also do that's my page but but i fundamentally think also a company has to be able to sustain itself more than just its ceo i think nvidia has gotten to that point where it's bigger than just him so that's and and guess what could connor can you show the chart connor sent me this chart uh i believe it was yesterday uh kind of that shows but do you understand what like nvidia is in the middle look at this ai bubble like this is a lot deeper than what i think people did nothing like this happens by accident tommy look at that guys nvidia is in the middle look at everybody microsoft open ai amd so patent here's my thing where is the actual i'm taking a whole different angle where's the actual evidence tommy the alice huang is actually a chinese spy so far is just accusations there's no nobody's rely it's all anonymous sources okay and since when does just and by the way i'm not condoning it i think it's bad but like a extramarital affair tommy what's up double check where is she right now where is she i thought she fled back to china is she but but i mean and do you think that that he would resign if that was not the case well no what i'm saying is in the public eye if you're cheating on your wife bro people demand that's that's where we're at you don't think so no because you look at twitter like you look at x you look at the online right people understand but what about the what about the ceo that was dancing at that concert with that chick he had to play call play you have to resign and so i i don't know bro like i don't trust china at all don't don't get me wrong but like you're in the resign part right move no no i'm no no i'm saying what like first of all people are just saying anonymous sources she's a spy no i don't think he should have resigned apologize you're you're you did something horribly wrong this this all stems from don't be a bad guy and cheat on your wife none of this happens you're not think there's something deeper do you not think that potentially in a few weeks we're gonna uncover that that the action was so intense so severe that they got ahead of it so quick i think i think i'm with i think i'm with elander i think something's gonna be released that we don't know about i think there's something bigger going on and i think there's something with him with him not not even with him i think it could be within the company i think it could be certain things that's going on that could be released that we don't know the whole story but you know i want to play this clip for you here's jensen wong talking about the pressures of being the ceo of nvidia a five five trillion dollar company look what he had to say here if you can play the clip i just sent you this is his messaging i think the lady is asking him how hard is it to be the ceo of a company like this here's his answer this episode is brought to you you think you know a browser but gemini and chrome that's new it can help you with practically anything on the web like restoring a vintage motorcycle from a 50 page restoration block or finally break down that long 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scrolling through websites or wasting my day at the store my stylist sends pieces picked just for me straight to my door free shipping free returns no subscription required get started today at stitchfix.com that's stitchfix.com you know i think you have to hold yourself responsible you have you have agency you're the CEO of the company for god's sake um you have to have high standards and expectations i'm responsible for an entire industry um and so i think the the pressure of being the CEO is high and it's supposed to be high it shouldn't be an it should not be an easy job it shouldn't be a job that you take for granted so this is a solid message that he's given he's right it is tough that somebody like this is going through and then the interviewer is emily chang which by the way it's not huang but it is a chang and so who knows what's going on there between the huang and the chang but you know but you know there's a community very pissed off on why this spy model works with russians it works with chinese if you can prepare the next meme why does it not work with the irgc like a lot of people are wondering so because they've been thinking about they've been trying to why does this not work yeah and i think i think it's a valid question to be asking this was brought up by a guy i couldn't play it but i had to show this because the guy aptin vatizy who put this but he put andy's song over it i couldn't play the song so i got this meme from him is that i mean look at that cello cabal you got some muslim you got some good bread you know you got the flag in the back but uh the chai this is terrible how are you supposed to attract guys we when you're you're worried about when the spy from durka durkastan is covered with a burka but by the way to be fair to be fair that this this doesn't depict persian girls they are some beautiful girls in the world and i i want to encourage iran doesn't have to be worried you have good access but if they're going to get dressed if they're fully covered it's going to be tough for you guys to spy on other u.s companies you're going to need some people that are not wearing the whole thing so my question is this is he amazing at doing his job yes so he's a sinner does that mean you have to lose your position at a job because you're no i'm agree i agree with you on that i mean like if it turns out that it was just due to infidelity i again i think his value is so significant that's what i'm saying that you overlook it look there are moral gray areas in you make these decisions all the time in that in that front i fully agree with you on the front that there is a real national security issue potentially here and that they got ahead of it so quickly objectively it just feels like they're trying to cut it off before it could damage the company more whatever that next story is they're trying to say he's gone we got rid of him the next story doesn't matter it doesn't have the same impact anymore and then we hope i mean how long you think we're going to find out they're not going to come on like she was a spy this is what happened this is what she got from him and now china but if he was connected to chips that went to a shell company that ended up in china that's a whole difference major issue yeah and by the way trump was apparently briefed on this a couple times the replacement is the cfo the cfo has been on dozens of calls tom i want to come to you with this one here she's experienced colette cress uh has been known for having a multiple back and forths with jensen i think one time they wanted to invest 250 billion dollars and she said no we're only going to do 100 billion dollars she capped that at 105 billion dollars and so she's the interim she won't be the uh ceo long term they got to go get a driver trump said i think we need to bring in tim cook who knows if tim cook's even interested or not but there's a lot of speculation being dropped tom what do you think with the replacement being a cfo do you think the next replacement the person that really gets the job will be a well-known name or do you think it could be somebody lucky that we may not even know about so i think it could be similar to what apple did somebody that's known in the industry but not known really widely on forbes fortune and to cover the wall street journal um nvidia earnings report i believe comes out next week i think they either have an announcement or they have an earnings call coming up next week yes tuesday november 17th at 4 20 p.m um that's when they're going to be out so we're going to see how well she's going to do and i think it's going to be a lot of fun she does is the interim role because remember you announce your earnings you then have to bring confidence to the um uh to the investment community specifically the analysts that are following you and that's going to be a that's going to be a rough call what are you doing is there anything different what's our organization are you losing any key employees i want to see how she reacts because the board is putting their faith in her voice in a week to go up in front of the fire here number one number two to your point i think it's going to be similar to what apple did remember tim cook was known but then we got to know him when they said listen he's our guy and then we got to know tim when apple said hey our succession i think you're going to like what happens here here's where we go i think that's what we're going to see here i think it's going to be methodical unless she has a disaster yeah so check this out so the poll we ran here's what people have to say they said should jensen huang have been fired may to resign 27 of the audience said yes 27 47 percent said no but 26 percent said yes but only for the chinese spy if the If it wasn't a Chinese spy, we wouldn't want him to resign. That's me. There is logic. There's a lot of logic there of what they're talking about. Anyways, let's go to the next story. Next story is while everybody's minding their business until about 11.59 yesterday a.m., right at noon, if you're somebody that checks your email and gets alerts all the time, boom, Outlook stopped. And once Outlook stopped, everybody's like, hey, why not get the email back? What's going on over here? And now, till now, Microsoft Outlook outage, they've made some progress. There's a partial progress that they've made. You're getting the new emails, but the existing emails not. Tom, what happened here with Microsoft? Well, Microsoft hasn't talked yet. Here's Down Detector. We're seeing this right now. Down Detector goes completely berserk at lunchtime Eastern yesterday, and everything just stopped. I remember my Outlook just absolutely froze. I was actually sending an email, and it goes into Outbox, and it got stuck. It got froze, and the whole app froze. And so I'm like, wow. I immediately go to Down Detector, and boom, the news is out there, number one. Then Microsoft goes the whole afternoon, doesn't really say what the issue was. And I wake up this morning, and I'm starting to get notifications, but nothing's coming through, though the email can't, because the notification channel where you get a beep on your phone if you're using the Outlook app, or you get a beep. You get a beep on your computer with the Outlook app. The notification is different from the email delivery channel. And so no email are coming in, but I'm starting to get notifications, and I can see the headlines of email. And then I go and look, and Microsoft still hasn't talked about it. I wanted to know, was this a crowd strike? You know, was this something like that? Was this a foreign government and a DDoS, distributed denial of service, where they try to overrun servers? Was this a? Was this a breach in one of the servers? Nothing came out. There's been no explanation from Microsoft except we're working on it. And unless something's come out in the last hour since we're prepping for the podcast, I don't see it. And I think Microsoft needs to come out here and let us know what's up, because CIOs and people across the nation want to know, hey, do I have to do anything special on my end? Was this a, was this, you know, you can't just say we had a bug. If it's a bug, you know what you do, Pat? You roll back. We have Minect. We have Hierometrics. We make software. If something is a bug, you do what's called roll back to the previous version at work. And then you say, hang on a second. But Microsoft, apparently they couldn't roll back. And they were saying servers were going down as quickly as they were coming back up. And I'm like, okay, something's in there doing something. Is it DDoS? Is it a piece of malicious code? And why haven't you made announcements so that the CIOs and security officers all across the U.S. could be taking steps? That's a very good point. So you've got Outlook is down, Exchange Online, Teams down, Copilot is down, SharePoint is down, Administration and Security Tools is down. This is 74 countries. About 130,000 U.S. Outlook problems reported around Thursday's peak. More than 25,000 reports were still showing up approximately 9.30 p.m. last night. Singapore, DBS, UOB, OCBC reported email connectivity problems. Singapore Airlines, you have OpenAI and Anthropic reported problems. With Microsoft-connected integrations, the final root of the cause is still under investigation. Some are saying it's a hack. Could it be a China attack? Could it be something that's going on? There's no verified evidence yet supporting those explanations. Microsoft executive Charles LaManna said there is no indication this is a result of malicious or cyber activity as of right now. They don't know. When did Microsoft have the last biggest outage that lasted this long? The last one they had was in 2026. Earlier this year, they had a nine-hour disruption in 22 minutes. Nothing this long. They had another one November 25th and 26th for Outlook and teams of 2024 that lasted 24 hours. And then prior to that, they had another one October 29th to the 30th, 2025, eight hours and 24 minutes, which means if this thing goes past 24 hours, this could be the biggest outage they've ever had in the history of Microsoft. If it goes past 24 hours, this is a $4 trillion-ish company we're talking about. Why wouldn't you? As a CEO? As somebody, Tom, why not come out and say something if it's been two days? This isn't like a five-hour they kept quiet. It's been two days. Tom, what would make you not come out and say, hey, guys, there was a hack or there was a bug or something? Come and tell people what the hell is going on instead of being in the dark. I'll tell you one way. What? I get a call from the NSA that tells me, don't say shit. Oh, really? Let's just get it done together. Oh, okay. So if they're fighting a foreign actor and they don't want to, if they, what would the headline be? If Iran and proxies had been able to do this, and this is coming from an external attack, what loss of faith in our own military and our defense security systems? Remember, there's defense security systems that are inside a lot of our commercial systems. Of course. Against foreign actors. What if the NSA is calling up and saying, hey, don't say anything. Let's just work on this together and let's get this thing done. That's one possibility. When a company says nothing, either they don't know or they're busy working. Microsoft would have someone that could come to the microphone while they would have every engineer not sleeping working on it. So, yeah. So what other possibilities are there then? Because you just created a scenario where that seems to be the only logical conclusion. Yeah, because you're waiting so long. Or they don't know. Or they're just working and really, really trying to solve it. I find our dependence on technology to be fascinating and incredibly scary. It's just gotten to the point where if my phone goes out, Verizon goes down. And I'm like, oh, man, how am I going to communicate with anyone? What am I going to do? How do I even get in touch with people? I have like these end of the world scenarios. But they're valid because they're just showing, like, bro. But we've gotten to a point as a society that just can't function without the technology that we rely on. We're so dependent on it. Can I give you a crazy fact I just asked you I wanted to find out, Tom? Think about a small business owner. How much money do you think they spend on cybersecurity per year? Were you with me when we were at the NLG event in Argentina? No, you weren't there. And all they were talking. All they were talking about was cybersecurity, cybersecurity. I've been in the financial space since the day before 9-11. I never hear this much conversation about cybersecurity until this event. Never. At this event, all they start talking about is cybersecurity because how many people got social security? Insurance companies were being hacked and people were taking social security. What do you think? How many engineers do you think Microsoft has working per year just on cybersecurity? Before the layoff of 60,000 two weeks ago? I'm giving you the number they reported in their annual. Report of 2026. How many engineers do you think Microsoft has just working on cybersecurity? We've got 200,000 employees. I'm going to go with 10,000 on security. 35,000 that all they do is cybersecurity with a $20 billion budget over four years, and you still couldn't protect it. So you're saying it's important. No, what I'm saying is it's impossible right now. Yeah, it's impossible right now. This AI. It has become so advanced that being able to hack is more, you know, you know, faster than ever before. Like this is something that's happening right now more than ever before. But no matter how much you spend time and money into it, it's still taking place. You still have a possibility of somebody getting into your system. The landscape on on encryption is changing way faster than we can compensate for, which is a really interesting concept because it's going to get to the point where all encrypted material in the world. I don't care what the. Level of encryption is, we'll be able to be solved like that far faster than we can compensate for that de-encryption. So there's this big problem right now in the cybersecurity space because of AI, because of quantum computing that is going to break down everything that protects us. All the secret information in the world. A lot of people believe that everything that's classified will be available and unless it's on paper, it's not safe. Yeah, I have a second angle, Pat, and it's something you and I have talked about. The other part I thought about was Hanlon's razor. Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity or just bad, dumb luck. And so could this be something in Microsoft where they just had one of their internal guys and just a really dumb set of things cascaded and created this whole problem? It's possible. So it is possible Hanlon's razor on one side. Right. But the other side, that's far more likely because it's taking so long to fix it. The longer it took to fix it, the more I got worried that it's not a Hanlon. You know what I mean, Pat? Like Hanlon's razor. I thought you would. Oh, but maybe it's just a bonehead move and it'll be back up in a half hour. But when it went 10 hours and 12 hours and 18 hours and now we're sitting here, it's not completely back yet. And we're at 22 hours because 1230 Eastern Time. We're sitting here on 22 hours. Now I'm like, it's got to be something from the outside or something that's really big that 30,000 guys are having trouble fighting. Can you imagine 35,000 guys? You wake up every day. Your job is to be able to protect. And it's been almost by noon. It'll be 24 hours. Right now we're at 22 hours, Vinny. For 22 hours, nearly 35,000 engineers. I'm working on this one problem. Have not been able to fix it. No, no. Have not been able to fix it at a multi-trillion dollar company. And how much was the budget just for them to do this? Billions. And again, what's weirder is they have previous versions that they could just boot up. And they can't do that. For some reason, that's not happening either. The rollback is always your first. Your first, if you have an infection or you have a crash, a rollback is usually your first line. of defense yeah okay let's go to the next story next i want to get into is tom what happened with hex's impeachment that collapsed everybody was waiting this was going to happen all of a sudden even hakim jeffries didn't want to vote for it was that strategic because he got a lot of pushback for uh not uh voting for it what happened there this was a fast cascade so the progressive left wing that is in power right now and we know who they are aoc you know rashida talib all of them uh the block they said hakim you're being too cautious we're gonna go after hexeth and uh he said nobody from his caucus the central centrist um said that we should be um you know uh impeaching him right now and the critics said hey why are you backing off you you're being too cautious that was what they accused him of and then they held the vote 11 dems didn't vote on it for the impeachment and then the progressive said hakim why didn't you whip it now whenever you see those comments in the media i'm not talking dirty here um they didn't ask him to whip it out what they said was why didn't you whip the vote because when they say you are the house minority whip your job is to whip the vote like get everybody wake up and get here to vote we're not we need your vote everybody in the chamber everybody's got to be here to vote you got to get in to vote be here to vote and so they said why didn't you whip it and says you didn't get those other 11 dems to vote on it so then they came out and they said really so you know what are you doing and hakim told them apparently in a small session he said listen i don't think impeachment is the card to play right now i think we should go after affordability in the economy then they said no that's not what we want to do we're out for blood they went out shouted to the earth and then 920 people oh wait wait i'm sorry 920 000 people in 30 hours had their name on a petition that they wanted to get hakim jeffries and others to move out so this is bigger than just the hegsest vote now gets tabled until the new congress at the beginning of the year pat this is bigger than that this is the progressive do you remember when the tea party was bullying the other republicans yep the minute the election was over pat remember when that happened ladies and gentlemen 2026 that's what's happening here yeah so if i'm looking at this right now it says thomas massey uh with eight articles alleging misconduct including unauthorized military operations brought it out on november 10th vote was 211 to 204 to refer the resolution to the house judiciary committee and uh for republicans 210 said yes send it to the house committee democrats zero independence one no oppose uh no opposed referral one republican 203 democrats didn't vote seven republicans didn't vote 11 democrats didn't vote those are the ones they told them to go whip and get their vote if all 11 absent democrats had voted against the referral with everyone else unchanged the motion would have failed 211 to 215 which would have preserved the immediate impeachment effort not guaranteed impeachment but at least it would have led to it so they would got their way they could have continued to the impeachment so let me ask you can they still do this after everything's done after new guys are replaced in january can they bring this back up and get hex at impeached or they could bring it back tomorrow morning but right now they've been kind of stuffed so procedurally once the new congress is there then the new speaker and they make rules and they put things out so this probably waits till after january 4th when the new ones are sworn in but now but what it shows you is that the the progressives are out for blood and there's infighting in the democrat party we knew that there's a little civil war happening between the far left and the establishment left and now they proved it they're doing it a little bit too early if they were smart they'd wait until 2028 which is what jeffries is essentially saying he's saying just tone it down we need to win 2028 and right now what americans care about is affordability the economy okay so let me ask you this when they bring it back up if we just ran the numbers right now when they bring it back up what is the likelihood that hexit is out 100 okay so then here's the question for you i hate to say it i'm not against but hear me out if if hexit you know how sometimes you know some people freak out sometimes you know sometimes like your boss comes to you and says hey i want to have a meeting with you this week some people panic and they automatically assume it's going to be fired so they quit do you know what i'm saying i can't and i'm like you almost have to qualify it and say i want to have a meeting with you this friday you're not getting fired i just i want to have a meeting with you so if if it's out of the uh what do you call it if it's out of the typical weekly you know pattern of having a meeting with the person freaks people out but the difference with this is versus working for a corporation corporations don't do a public voting like this for you to know if you're going to get fired or not if you're hexit watching this you know what's most likely going to happen strategically he's going to resign he's going to step down and you know he's going to look at this knowing by january they pretty much guarantee have this thing in place don't be surprised if in the next two four six eight weeks you hear the news hex said has decided to take a break or spend time with the family during the holiday season thanksgiving christmas and he's done a great job and we give him an award and he steps away so this is also one way maybe tom what do you think about this what do you think do you think massey doing it on the tent was intentional to force a resignation because some people are saying you guys should have waited till january well maybe massey doing this early is his way of forcing him to resign what percentage of credence do you give to that uh i'm at 50 okay yeah and rising day by day as i see who was talking to who yeah yeah yeah what do you think well i mean it's it's um it's very interesting when you look at it that way strategically yeah it's very interesting to do that it's like it's like hey hint hint and also when is massey out this is massey's last chance so massey knows he's not going to be there until he's replaced massey's out as soon as they officially break which could be december 10th it could be sooner when they officially break yes and mike johnson throws down the gavel and say we're out of session unless they're called in for emergency like a nuclear war yeah then they're done and then clean out your office the new guys are getting sworn in january 4th impeach my question impeach for what it's all it reminds me almost like colonel jessup from a few good men as much guys as much as everybody loved tom cruise and the message and i get it but i don't think it's funny he he gave the code red and everything like when he's like you need me on that wall you want me on that wall this bro we were we went from transgender dog wearing uniform freaking do you remember the videos of of these guys that were like course making videos of i'm telling you guys right now you need guys like this okay and i and this myth mind you i think the iran war was a mistake i how many times have i said that okay but what are you supposed to do just get up and you can't give up and people are acting like we've lost troops guys even one troop is bad i understand that but look at what this guy's he's changing name to the department of war we have to show freaking strength or these people will eat us alive and this i hope elon i hope they keep playing this whole we're gonna keep going after you because when the smoke when the impeachment and kick you out dust settles what are you guys standing on because what they actually stand on and we've seen it is that you know lgbtq push on the kids and everything the open borders which mind you there's a 1500 person caravan coming up right now from honduras to come here and they're coming here why because they go the democrats are going to help us do you understand that pat 1500 of them are coming here right now as we speak they're in route because and and the connor could hold up that story if you can find it they're like because because we know that the democrats are going to help up help us that's what they're about all right what did pete hex said do pat what did he do wrong he strengthened the military he's gotten our recruitment up it just drives me crazy and this is just the story what do you stand for trump sucks and get rid of his people and mind you did you know this trump has been a president for 2123 days full yet republicans have controlled congress for 1375 and congress was on recess 897 days roughly 42 percent of trump's time and off office time during that time guess how many uh recess appointments zero zero that's the mitch mcconnell's and these nick dunes and when you when you think that this is what boggles me republicans lost the senate in the midterms they turned around they reelected john thune as a leader this guy's a dem he's a democrat in republican clothing brother they're doing nothing we've had the house and we have the senate and everybody always blames trump what is he supposed to do bro he tries to bring all these people and when it trickles down the judges are biden appointed tommy they're obama appointed people and we want actual change they blame him and i understand he's the top pat but what is he supposed to do episode is brought to you by google chrome you think you know a browser but gemini and chrome that's new it can help you with practically anything on the web like restoring a vintage motorcycle from a 50-page restoration blog or finally break down that long 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There's a bunch of imams, radical imams, talking about how their ability to infiltrate the United States will be easier with Democrats. They want Democrats. They love it. They love it. They say it. They say it. Openly. But the average American has gotten comfortable and forgotten that the world outside of the United States is not a pretty place. And so we also forgot, because we have such short-term memories, what was going on in the military before Trump, which was exactly what you're talking about. There was NAV speech videos about how to use pronouns, teaching military personnel how to deal with transgender people in foreign conflicts. Like if you're going into Iraq, you have to know that if you're going into Iraq, you have to know that if you come into contact with a trans person, how you're going to refer to them, that's where our military was headed. That is happening for a reason. It's to weaken us and a lot of these foreign adversaries, that's their goal. It worked though. But let me do this to you. This clip with Van Jones went viral. He got permission from the guys who helped Democrats win out the midterms heavily and they shared the strategy and this was everywhere because it was like, hey, we did to you what you were not expecting. We took something, we amplified it so much and it hurt your midterms. Watch this clip here. Now it can be told. How did we win the narrative on affordability? With it just these nice little Democrats out there running for office and going to, no. The Republicans never figured out what we were doing. There's something called the American Accountability Network, tens of thousands of online humans, not bots, coordinated to make the affordability message a winning message online. 32.5 million people hit on Instagram every day, 88.8 million hit on Twitter every single day, and 185 million Facebook hits every single day and they never figured it out. The Republicans could not understand it wasn't bots, it was actual human beings. The most effective online organizing campaign called the American Accountability Network flew under the radar screen. Never been told. And they were talking about the issue or they were saying you need to elect Democrats to deal with this? Driving the kitchen table affordability message and tying that to Democrats on a positive and Republicans on a negative, the Republicans never figured out what we were doing. And what that meant was everywhere you go, people were talking about affordability and they were talking about kitchen table issues. They couldn't get any traction on these cultural war issues anymore because we figured out how to get around all that. Okay. So it's not just. This is what I want you to do, but pause it right there. So he says this, Victor Davis Hanson, a very credible, reasonable voice that many people watch and listen to. Here's what he had to say. He's like, wait a minute. This affordability thing was exaggerated because it wasn't as bad as people thought it was. Watch this clip. Go for it. Everybody said a blue wave was coming and it became a tsunami. If you look at every economic indicator in 2022, it was worse than it is now or the same. It was worse than it is now or the same. Gas was about the same, but it had got higher. It had been up to $5. We never got $5. GDP was lower. The stock market was 20,000 points lower during the 2022 midterm. Per capita income in just four years ago was $14,000 lower. The poverty rate was two points higher. I could go on, I'm boring you, but almost the main thing about affordability, the inflation rate that year was what, 9.1. It was almost three times higher. So why when the economy was terrible and this time the economy was pretty good, did we lose because supposedly of affordability in gas? There has to be another explanation, and the explanation I think is what you just said, the messaging. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He came in, Biden, he inherited a Trump 1.9% inflation rate. That was on top of the 9.1, but it was still only 10 or 12%. And he had only aggregated over four years. It was only seven. So he didn't have a huge increase on top of his huge inflation. Donald Trump had 21% aggregate when he came in. The Trump administration did not explain to the people the difference between the high prices they inherited that they were hurting on and how they had radically reduced the rate of increase, but not rid of the 21, because to do so, you'd have a depression. So you can pause right there. So, Tom, you saw what Van Jones said. Van Jones talking about this American Accountability Network, which, by the way, when I looked at their site, describes a network of creators, influencers, advocates, and organizers that amplifies political messages across different platforms, recruits people. For phone banking, texting, and door knocking, supports Democratic and progressive candidates and causes, names Midas Touch as a network member. If you know Midas Touch, you know what they do. They're on the complete opposite side. The names that come up is Heather Booth, who's the president, Rio Tazewell, director, Jennifer Lou Tazewell, treasurer, and Caitlin Prizio-Boxbaum, who is the secretary. And when I asked to see who's the funder behind and where the money comes from, it's having a hard time finding it. So I don't know if you can go to. You know the one website that shows where funding is coming from? Let's go take a look at them. When you see what Van Jones said and what Victor Davis Hanson said, how do you process that, Tom? Well, two sides. First of all, Van Jones is bragging about the technique that they use that he is giving a lot of credit to for winning the election. And he's talking about it's done with humans. If it's humans and they're organized and they're doing this, that's part of social media. That's part of the game. My concern is that, Van, are you sure that there aren't any bot networks in there? When I look at the list of people in there and I look at organizations on there, there are organizations on there that have allegations about being bot farms. So you got to be really careful, Van. Is every single person in there a human? Is everything in there? And so he's bragging on that. And that doesn't surprise me because those are the tools of modern elections. That's the way it works. That's the world we live in. Now, Victor Davis Hanson is another item. I see what he's saying. And you can step back and say, gosh, why is consumer spending holding up? Because one of the things that's been out there, Pat, has it not, is that consumer spending on certain things has been up or has been holding? Well, consumer spending has been up because part of it was the price of gas people are paying. So the spending has to be up on gas, on those elements. But the other side that I look at is, wait a minute. Diesel is real. This is really happening to food prices. So you can look at a lot of the stats and you can say, hey, we stopped the rate from going higher. They did. And they deserve credit for it. And we got the inflation rate back to here. They did. And there is credit for it. But there is still the cost of housing, the cost of insurance. I look at these numbers. And those are real numbers that hit the American consumer. And you can say, well, look, consumer spending is there. But on the other side, I would say. Well, it is. But the credit card balances are all-time highs. And buy now, pay later is an all-time high. And buy now, pay later defaults are as an all-time high. So the consumer can be spending. But with what money? They've got credit cards and BP. So I get what Victor Hansen is saying. I get that it was what Biden inherited versus what Trump inherited. And did Trump make a difference on it? I agree. But the fact of the matter is, if you just look at diesel and you just look at. Credit card balances and stuff, and you look at what what food costs have been, you know, how do you how do you kind of. ignore that true impact on the consumer yeah if consumer spending is staying up but consumer debt is increasing exponentially it's not a good thing then they're using debt to cover inflation a hundred percent so it's not a beneficial marker for the society i also think there's a huge issue with expectation versus reality that no one's addressing biden had a very different message than trump trump came in in 2024 with the message that our economy would radically change there's been a long-standing economic stagnation potentially a silent depression it's been going on for a very very long time people haven't really felt it but when you come in with the message that you are going to fundamentally change people's lives and how they feel and how they're taking care of their families and then you're right anecdotally i can even say i have my own company i've seen commercial spending go down people are not buying as much non-essential goods they're not buying as many like luxury goods or wants anymore it's harder to buy food so their experience is worse and you can't tell an american that their experience is worse but don't worry the economy's good yeah your stock the stock market's good but you're struggling nobody wants to nobody cares they want to know that they could put food on and by the way that's what democrats ran on which is funny because democrats have never done anything ever to make your life better when it comes to feeding your family never so that's the great hypocrisy here is again short-term memories i'm talking about short-term memories people forget how hard it was 2022 2023 they don't they don't care because it's broke because trump is the bad man and i'm and they brought to van jones like was it illegal no based on what he described like political campaigns coordinate messaging all the time but this was absolutely an organized propaganda tactic full stop it's called message saturation they take one issue they coordinate with all these thousands of people that you showed that they flood every platform and they make it look organic but it's anything but all right and republicans got their butts whooped but this is what should piss conservatives off democrats understand that it's not just about having the better argument it's about controlling what people are talking about while republicans were talking about real issues ladies and gentlemen the border letting in almost 15 to 20 million people that is affecting your affordability how much cash were they giving these people credit cards hotels everything you don't think that health care everything for illegals they all push it mamdani in new york what was the main thing is like health care for i don't care your your status if you're illegal with your kids everybody is going to get health care okay and then look what happened right after the midterm elections what happened to brent it dropped 8.7 percent pat all right so i want this is a big political lesson it's massive democrats built an army of online people coordinated messaging doing all that stuff by the way republicans had no idea van jones is over here bragging about it i just want republicans to understand guys we have to start fighting like these people fight okay they just showed how modern politics political warfare works you better step up and start fighting step your game up because they're coming literally they're coming and they're telling you what they're doing they're they're loading in your face that's the craziest part why would you say the silent part out loud i want to read this article to you can you go back to the article i just sent to you 2026 the first ai election dnc deployed the american accountability network and if you go a little bit lower to show the numbers on the middle of the page it shows the numbers watch this year go a little bit lower lower lower lower right there social by numbers 50 million followers on facebook and instagram 70 of the top 500 accounts on blue sky 58.4 billion dollar billion impressions on twitter tens of millions of views per month on youtube strong creator network on additional platforms like tiktok thread reddit substack and more and uh ai could but the argument the premise of this article is ai could have manufactured the appearance of public support so they got these artificial personalities that is creating engagements oh my god so many people feel this way i should go feel this way as well so real influence on the media and the media influencers could supply the original content so real influencers supply the original content then the bots come and retweet they're like maybe these guys are really that powerful i should go follow what they have to say the author connects that hypothetical system to the american accountability network and uh argues they could overwhelm competing narratives by the way if this happened credit to the democrats absolutely credit to the democrats if this happened yeah except that it's orwellian it's orwellian in nature hey well are you surprised though absolutely not surprised no meaning why are you as the opposing party why are you not surprised that they're doing this and they they forced the argument got the other side to back down and apologize and then eventually they won and it's not like the republicans got fewer votes they got the same amount of votes democrats just happened to get millions of more votes yeah 20 million 20 million more votes because of they were motivated now some people can call that a lot of different things but they got their base to show up absolutely maybe the republicans could have done a better job with campaigning of it okay so that's that story next one i want to get into is tom what is the story with diesel deal with putin uh that was one of the stories that came up what did you see there what i saw is that and and i haven't dived deep into it but tankers are being turned away um because trump makes a deal for step one trump makes a deal with putin hey i want to buy some diesel i want to bring supplies over here now the amount that's being brought over here is like ten million dollars and i'm not saying that's tenths of tenths of decimal points pat it's not like a pipeline it's not like another refinery but trump is trying to bring more diesel over here trying to get more uh supply into the market to see if he could lower the um the cost to the consumer and specifically cost to consumer goods through shipping so he wants all that to happen so he makes this deal to do it however nothing has arrived in the u.s yet because there's been refusal to ship and refusal to receive it and accept it so people are not going to be able to buy it they're not going to be able to buy it people are saying we're not taking that russian fuel because why because there's people in the u.s that are supporting ukraine or say we're not going to help them no but there's actual sanctions against accepting it it's correct it wouldn't be technically legal as far as i understand to accept but he trump feels that i made the deal so it's like an executive order so sanction or no sanction you know i'm saying yes even though the sanction says no but there are people that are saying sorry we're going to follow the sanction we're not going to do this so the deal's not necessarily falling apart but the deal can't be executed and people are out there pointing to the sanctions and trying to frustrate the president's progress yeah and they're doing a good job i think uh i think trump is actually trying to alleviate economic pressure in terms of our end of it so that he can apply significantly more economic pressure to iran to force a peace deal this is my whole theory behind this i think he's he's trying to force some kind of deal with iran economically by pressuring them alleviating pressure on our end because that's the biggest pain point if he can accomplish that then he can re-pressure russia afterward because he's he's pretty much just tearing off his major pain points right now pain point number one is the iran war he needs that to end by alleviating the economic pressure on the united states he can put more pressure on iran he can finish that fine that's done 2027 he can start reapplying pressure onto russia hopefully come to some kind of off-ramp there between russia ukraine if he can end by having some kind of plan for russia ukraine having some kind of deal with iran and then he can put more pressure on iran and deal with iran and re-establishing normal gas prices he will have solved every major pain point by 2020 which would be huge for the 2028 whoever's going to be running because it'll say hey listen that's the he didn't end though because i don't i don't believe there's an end to the iran war people all all all they care about bro what did pat talk about two weeks ago if they look at the gas prices if the gas prices finally and they're connected that entirely to the iran and they stopped that message of oh we lost in iran one no it's like all right listen we got what we wanted we bought they don't have the nukes or but isn't it funny how after the midterms uh gas prices dropped that's what the crew dropped brent dropped 8.7 percent nobody said anything it's like wait a minute were they were you guys lying hold hold the line let me let me say this it's 190 today there is there is a story here where in victor davis hansen saying the fact that hey all this stuff that they said about the economy oh my god that's what's not really real but there's also another position he took where a lot of conservatives are talking about saying your anti-corruption messages loses credibility when your standards change depending on who benefits from it and so here's him again you can use one story that benefits you but you got to use you got to share the other story with you 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Underwritten by Farmers Truck or Fire Insurance Exchanges or Affiliate. Products not available in every state. We're starting to see not just massive corruption among the Somali community in Minnesota, not just massive corruption in California, but we're starting to see unethical behavior at the highest levels. Some of us have been very worried about the Trump administration, that there are members associated with some of the Trump family that are very active in the Middle East investing and helping people who are. Investors in the Middle East find receptive avenues in the United States that they might not otherwise find, given that they don't have contacts at the highest level of government and vice versa. They are steering people from the United States who want to invest in the Middle East. I don't know if that's illegal, but it seems highly unethical. And so I think as we try to digest the midterm elections, people on the conservative side said, this party, us, we will not engage in corruption. We're going to be beyond suspicion of corruption. And maybe Donald Trump can go to the Congress and said, I want to beef up the Pelosi bill so Congress people don't invest as insiders during their tenures and I will have an executive order in the executive branch matching step for step what you do in Congress. Pause it right there. Do you think he would do that? Do you think Trump would do that? I. The Pelosi deal. You know how as insider trading and you're putting your money and you think he would do that because Ana Paulina Luna was driving that at one point. Do you think this is something Trump would get behind to change the perception of corruption? Why haven't we? I mean, we had an opportunity here. We had the Congress. We had things going on there. Who's pushing against it? Is it that Trump won't or is it that Trump can't? Because the votes and everything that are. I'm not saying that are in there that all these folks are going to quietly do it. Every lobbyist out there doesn't want this to happen. The lobbyists want the congressmen to make money on the stocks based on their decisions. Let me ask you a question. So now, let's say he says, put it on my desk. Put it on my desk that I will sign the. What do you call it? The anti-insider training for members of Congress and Senate. He puts it on his desk. It goes to vote. What's the likelihood it passes? Zero. Okay. So then guess what, though? Guess what he gets to say? Hold up the list. Hey, I tried to put it out there, but it's Congress that doesn't want to do it. There's the ones that voted against that. It's Congress that doesn't want to do it. So guess what? I can't do anything about that. So there's a part of it that I think there's an opportunity here as well where. That's a Reagan move, by the way. That Trump can play the game. Trump can play the game. I'm for anti-corruption. Why don't we do this? Why don't we do that? Why don't we put them up? Why don't we vote for it? Why don't we see how you guys react to it? I bet you guys are not going to want to vote for it. And of course, there's going to be some on the Republican side, because if you pull up how much money some of these guys have made, have you seen the rate of return? Yeah, it's crazy. These guys are better traders than Buffett, better traders than Jim Simons, better traders than many of these guys. So what do you think when you hear Victor Davis Hanson saying that corruption is also hurting the administration? A hundred percent it's hurting the administration, and it comes back to the original point he made, which is a disconnect of messaging. Trump ran on anti-corruption. That was his message. You cannot run on a message that you are then accused of being a part of. It just doesn't work. And by the way, it comes down to everything. We're just, I talk about this all the time, how Americans have lost trust in the institutions that are there to protect us. And when Trump came and said, I'm going to fix this, a bunch of Americans put their trust in him. And then we saw the Epstein files didn't follow through the way people thought. We're seeing corruption come out in his own administration. We're seeing, again, the economy didn't follow through. These are broken promises in the American public's eyes. That's what they're frustrated about. And by the way, it's better to under-promise and over-deliver than to over-promise and under-deliver. And I feel like that's Trump's biggest problem in all this. He talks a lot, but then we need to see the execution of those things. But is it hardly learned when your face would constant, like even the people that are supposed to be on your side, brother, when they talk about the swamp, it is so deep and has so many freaking creatures. Look at all this stuff that we learned from Susie Wiles and then you see Alina Haba and it's, and what's that quote? Power tends to corrupt, absolute power corrupts absolutely. And it's like, you're finding out, bro, like it goes all the way. And like, you know, the beauty is about us. We can at least admit when our side is messing up the other side, they're right or that they'll never, ever admit. They'll never admit that they had a president like Biden. That was, we all saw that was what they're like, no, he's, he's the most actual dementia. And it just drives me crazy, bro. Like, even if you think about the voting for the number of 2025, they did the congressional vote against violence against women act like all the funding for the rate, all this stuff that was having, they voted not to release it. They look after each other, bro. That little swamp look at Ilhan Omar, bro. We, we, we know we don't think Ilhan Omar who drives me crazy. She just won again in Minnesota. She is walking around because she knows she's invincible. She's invincible, bro. Besides the marrying your brother, besides the husband, $30 million. Oh, I messed up on my taxes. Besides the child daycare, these people, when you're in, I tell people all the time, Pat, if you're just a regular street thug and you're stealing and you're doing, you're an idiot. Idiot. Get into politics. Tom, you're in Washington and you're wearing a suit and you have a, you make a lot more money. You can go, you are name one person that's been arrested for anything. We talk about this all the time, the accountability issue, but those are, by the way, those are the fracture points to, to Pat's point that Trump should be harping on. Those fracture points are where you can get the American public behind you because you can throw it at the establishment. That's actually what Trump did to win the election. He threw all those fracture points. I'm saying, look at how corrupt they are. Look at how little accountability there is. I'm the guy who's going to change that. He didn't. Yeah. So you can't run on the idea that, Hey, there's, there's the club that someone needs to be an insider. Can I ask a question? Can I ask a question here for you guys? I mean, and let's run a poll on this. Okay. Can you guys run a poll on this? When you score the president on what's been done towards corruption, don't answer yet. When you run a score on how well of a job the administration has done against corruption, okay. We're talking, you know, the, the Pelosi's we're talking Doge. We're talking all of that stuff. We're talking Minnesota. We're talking California. We're talking all the corruption that happens in America. Percentage score score. So number one, put zero to actually just put this, if you guys don't mind, just put 1, 2, 3, 4, you know, four being the best one being the worst one is an F two is a D three is a CB and you know, four is an a what score do you give it? If it's one, two, three, four, I'll let the poll go up there first and give you a score. What do you, what do you give them on what they've done with corruption? Tom, I'll come to you first on a one to four, one to four and a four is like a 4.0 or as they crushed it. They got an eight like that's an a, uh, I, these recent things are not good looks, but I give them a three, three and a half. Tell me why? Because look what they did when they discovered Nick surely exposed some things. And then the president put his weight behind it, behind California, behind what's going on there. Number one, then there was doge that he tried to put up there and all the people that got in his way. I give him a high score for, for having doge there. And then what happened is the swamp frustrated doge. He ended up in a conflict of, you know, a personalities with Elon. But I think the administration actively tried. Now on the other hand, I don't like the meme coins and I didn't like that part of it. You give it a three and a half. What do you give it? Give it a three. I said three, three and a half. So let's say three. I'm less Pam, like until people go to jail and prison and have to pay for their crimes. I'm going, I'm going 1.5 because mind you, it keeps getting to where Pat, it gets to the point where even when they're exposed and it's, is it just me when it goes to a judge, it gets thrown out because Obama put the judge in and they're like, no, get out of here. I don't think it's good. Doge. They did it. Doge should have stayed even though they started at Pat. I know all the funny name guy that was involved. They had something really going on there with the NGOs and everything. It's a low score for me. I think it's 1.5, two to 2.5. The benefit I'll give to Trump is the exposure of corruption. The execution of getting rid of it is where he failed and the accountability is where he failed. In my opinion, doge didn't do what it was set out to do. It didn't. Uh, the accountability of Elon Omar, you're talking about all these politicians who are being exposed for, for being sketchy. There's no true accountability in the end of the day. So the Epstein files, there's also no accountability there still. Yeah. What do you think? What would you put in? I mean, I mean, listen, I mean, listen, man, you know, both sides, you have a lot of stories, but when you hear Alina Habas, contract you hear the meme coins you hear you know all the stuff that's going on you end up getting a very low score you know a part of it doge to me was one of the most exciting ideas i was excited about doge i was actually excited about tariffs i was excited about voter id they did the you know what they did with the border was very quick uh my score is going to be a two two and a half on what happened the exposure is one you're marketing bringing eyeballs to it but the way you get judged in business and in life is what results yeah yeah so you can say all you want but there was no result so i i don't i don't know if they're getting a high score so now the question becomes what what faith is he at he's got last two years left we're having dinner the other day with two uh very successful billionaires in business in palm beach tom you and i are there and every time i go talk to these guys it's we talk politics for three hours straight you think it's business we never talk business it's all politics and it's all business you get judged in business and in life as well results yeah yeah so you can say all you want it's all business it's all politics and in life as well results yeah yeah so you can say all you want fighting arguing all this stuff it's great it's my kind of a dinner and it's phenomenal and you never know who's going to be there every time there's somebody new there but one of the conversations was is you know these guys are going to end up pardoning everybody what are the likely that trump's going to self-pardon himself 80 90 very very 100 what is the likelihood he's going to pardon his entire family 100 what is the likelihood he's going to pardon hex said besant all those guys yeah very high likelihood now who gave him the permission to do that biden did of course okay so biden made it easier for him to go do that now you know knowing trump you know who else he could uh pardon as well that i wouldn't be surprised he could he could pardon biden okay he could be the type of guy that pardons biden to throw everybody off he would say i think that it's not i would not be surprised if trump pardons biden it'll confuse the shit out of everybody i think so when he does that genius move actually but you know what you know what biden doesn't protect you from it protects you from federal but not by state state by state can still come after and the reason why i'm talking about the dinner is because this the dinner brought up the fact that state by state they can still go after the family so if you think they're going to be done here so maybe trump is sitting there saying if we go after all these guys they're going to come after us and look at the way you reacted what did you say i need people to go to jail until if i see people going to jail the same energy you have any the opposite side has the same energy i want to see trump go to jail hex it belongs in jails i want to see don jr right that they belong in jail until if i see that i'm not happy if crimes are if actual crime the left the left is willing to do it even if crimes were not committed and that's the same attitude i had mind you across the board i've had that even i love that you did no you did i want all you you've been very consistent about it i'm not i'm not calling you out you've been left right center i don't care who you are we need to hold you accountable go to it but you know a part of why like if by the way do we have the score of what people voted on the curious i'm actually curious to know what the poll came back can you send it to me i want to know what the audience says because the audience here we go wow 36 gave it a one yeah that's bad that's 33 gave it a two 21 gave it a three and only 10 gave it a four that 10 is wearing a mega hat right now you know it 10 gave it a four good for you the audience yeah truly good for you the audience by the way you know what that tells you you know what that and that's our audience to score it that way i know that means that means six percent of the audience gave it a four and only 10 percent gave it a four 69 gave it a two or less 69 gave it a two or less and by the way the rest of you watching if you haven't voted yet go vote i'd like to see the sample size to get into a few thousand leave the poll up i'd want i'd want people to keep voting to see which way does it lean does it go one way does it go another way so i think if i'm the administration you have to do something about this you were the anti-corruption team yeah you were supposed to solve this issue you were supposed to get the confidence and ci and the fbi to go up there's they got some work to do in this area and the american people specifically on the republican side are speaking about this do you remember the feeling after the assassination attempt on trump it was it was shocking on thank god he survived but there was a feeling of like we are ready i remember feeling this and everyone i talked to this is it this is a turning point now for america things are going to change this was the mark and i remember that moment for me was definitive i was like that that is now going to be the president of the united states yeah there was this intense electricity around it that has completely dissipated and it's almost impossible to maintain that level of because again the expectation went through the roof so yeah by the way if it if it wasn't done first two years when you had control what is the likelihood you do it now it's so slow it's so slow i wouldn't say zero but it's very that's a minuscule that's a photo that feels like conviction that's a photo that feels like someone who's willing to put their life on the line for what they believe in and you're talking about the potential of being arrested we've seen trump face this for so long already the fear of so what is stopping him is what i wonder that's my biggest problem like this is a guy who's willing to die for what he believes in as far as i know and yet he hasn't executed on the thing he promised tom i'll give you the final thoughts on this story before we move on so i well i'm the guy that went three three and a half three and a half yeah so i'm sitting there um and i'll tell you um but but tom that's okay that's your point and i and i think by the way look at what my point is he went after it and the execution wasn't necessarily on him the entire swamp is what crushed doge the entire can you unpack that be specific okay for an entire week the media was more interested in an analyst called big balls than they were in the actual things that were being investigated and they were coming up against it and they smeared this poor kid and he was an analyst right edward korstein and so it's like wait a minute what are we really talking about here we were attacking those that were shining the light and this is just that just bothered the hell out of me doge was frustrated because the swamp stood up and suffocated it and then there were egos and other things that were in the room and then the dispute between elon and besant did they get into it a little bit and so i'm not going to go into that but i'm going to go into it and i'm going to i feel like that and then you look at the states talk about the states how about the states defending the corruption that an independent guy like nick shirley who i fear for his safety daily yeah went out and did this and trump sent the fbi he sent investigators out yeah so there was the execution there no did we get there all the way no you can give it a one or two on ultimate results and you can criticize the meme coins but they tried to go out after it and so can i ask you a question i get a little revved up about that can i because i have i have a real question here then what's the answer because what you're saying is the establishment is so powerful the swamp is so big that even the the person who we put our faith in to change it who we thought was willing to do anything is incapable of actually affecting it on any level what is it what does that say then what what is like what is this how bad we need insider training um we need all these laws and regulations to be passed while the swamp stares back at the u.s voter and says you're not going to get it and it's like okay where are we going where's the patriot that's going to stand up i wish some of the stuff got done is there time to get something done yeah so uh do you guys remember that party we were at where you and uh um tico are in the freaking uh what do you call a rooftop you're screaming at the protesters i don't know if you were about him do you remember this weird i'm like what the hell are you guys doing you and him were singing and we got out and somebody spat on uh one of the guys i was winning and he got arrested right in front of that video and all over they would have done that anyway but i'm sure i didn't help no but uh if you remember during that time i kept saying they're gonna say the the puppet masters who musk yeah and and the magazine came right out easiest way to pin trump against musk is so easy because all you have to do is get under trump's skin to say you are not the leader it's elon musk and he controls you yeah this was a day when the guy spat on us and uh you know these guys were running up to us we have security we have all this stuff that's going on but uh it was it was a wild day right there he spat right on the head of uh security and he got arrested immediately anyways so to me this divide and conquer game like it almost needs to be the following it almost needs to be the following where it's like listen i role play with my kids and this is what i say i'll say hey i'm going to tell you what people are going to say about your dad to you how are you going to handle that comment tell me how you're going to react to it this oh i want to punch him in the face no you're not no you're not you're not going to do that i mean i'm getting more painful statements more painful statements more painful statements i said okay let me give you comments between you and your brother siblings this is what they're going to say what are you guys going to do to make sure it doesn't come in between the two of you guys you know nothing we're always going to be i said no these the manipulation deception is very powerful don't don't get it twisted they know how to work with flattery they know how to work under your ego and say stuff like your father likes him more your father likes him more and your father likes this person more and they favor that person more they kind of find a way to to divide and conquer through flattery through ego through all that stuff they succeeded they succeeded the moment you saw these two guys going at it where people start saying without elon trump would have never been a president you know it's because of elon so the divide and conquer game led to doge not working out but that still means you said you were going to do it and you haven't delivered on your promises yet no matter what it is with the swamp you don't get an out at the toughest job in the world we criticize jensen wong a lot but that guy is just the ceo of a multi-trillion dollar company you are the ceo of a multi multi multi deca trillion dollar business that whatever decisions you make gets around the world and a lot of people backed you because they wanted you to get the corruption out what do you do now the last two years i don't know it's going to be interesting to see what happens the next two years tom you may want to check your phone no i don't think i didn't even hear it that's not me but no it's not mine either it's coming from somewhere i hear something anyway but pat but that's why i i think elon to go to your your your your point and your question that's why trump was listen say what you want god chose that guy that you're fired orange to become the president at the time he exposed everything maybe his his duty was to show everything because like i said we're seeing how nothing nothing's going to change but now it's on us everybody's always like what are they gonna it's up to us to hold them accountable don't vote for these freaking people if a new party at some point has to start or whatever at the end of the day elon they're this small their percentage of who they are the elites and the swamp we're the 99.999 percent it's us do you know what the the danger is in all of this though when when uh civilizations when populations within civilizations feel like their government will not be held accountable the expression ends up coming out in different ways not the most positive ways and oftentimes also when people feel like there's no accountability for things that's when they're more likely to hand over their security or their rights or whatever it is to more extremist parties which is what we're seeing now we're seeing the frustrations with trump result in more support for dsa more support for extremist ideals because people's frustrations needs to be satiated no one likes a complex solution to a complex problem they like a simple solution to a complex problem so they're now saying okay i couldn't trust you let me go to the most extreme check this out when you run a business when you're on a company there's a couple things that happens okay to me here's also what what ends up happening you got to be very careful with your job the reason why you know we developed higher metrics is to be able to get the pulse of everybody in the company the sentiment score everybody imagine the power of knowing who is about to quit in 90 days three months six months what is the information how valuable is that information to you very high imagine finding out that two people that have been working together for 18 months they typically exchange three to five emails a day for the last two weeks they have not what is that sentiment score how valuable is that to you as an operator very high because you need to have a meeting and say guys is everything okay with you there's some kind of a conflict going on or having a one-on-one meeting okay where am i going with this by the way if you want to learn more about it go to highermetrics.com m-e-t-r-i-c-s.com to learn more about this technology and get a demo for you to see how it works thousands of uh users on there that are taking advantage of this technology for themselves here's where i'm going let's get the pulse of the people that trump has right now let's get the pulse of his leaders who is still excited who's still enthusiastic about the mission who's burned out and i'm being honest with you guys and who do you need to move on with some are going to self-select i believe there could be a self-selection process with hex at the next 30 60 days because massey just put it out there hey you don't do it now guess what we're going to do it in 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i'll just say i agree which means he's still a believer fighter yes not only a believer and a father but just so you guys know he's staying at a military base because there's so many threats on his life literally at a military literally at a military base they're trying to kill this guy iran and other stories are coming out they're trying to kill this guy so okay zero to ten hex it where do you put it conviction enthusiasm not burned out wants to continue and can execute nine you put it as a nine where do you put he's fighting looking to his eyes i think he's a five six looking to you put him out of five i mean no i give him i give hex at the high score okay keep going with me that's okay by the way we don't have to agree that's okay so let's continue where do you put rubio at zero to ten wanting to fight seven and a half i'm at seven yeah eight eight point five i actually think you put him you put him high yeah where do you have vance at true believer i want to push i want to run with you what do you need help he's lukewarm he's five he's right in the middle three three where do you put him tom i think he's a five and falling on his because i don't think he wants to be in this agenda okay steven miller where do you put steven miller i would put nine and a half very high guys he's a nine point nine bear to say he's the highest right now to want to go out yes and he's a true believer so you know you know what the president is he's a true believer he's a true believer he's a true believer he's a and he's done this his entire life let some people go gently let them own it that they quit that they're moving on and some other people you got to replace you know it's been a rough last couple months it's not because he doesn't work trump went on 30 different rallies in 14 days to go you know promote and drive and got the same amount of votes that he got last time so it's not like the base was in there democrats just had a better marketing campaign on the back end and i have regular conversations with people on the back end and say you guys are not unified enough to go out there and drive and think strategically you need some of these rack tag guys that are chippy to bring him in a room and say what the hell are we doing you need that again but you need execution i think he needs to bring three new people on the team that are fighters that are not burned out you know how long you know the average lifespan of a cfo with a company you know what the average lifespan with a cfo of a company is two and a half three years that's it oh yeah cfo yeah yeah all right yeah oh yeah cfo is two and a half you know what the average lifespan of a cmo is two and a half three years two and a half three years two and a half three years you know what the average lifespan of a coo is four years okay four years is slightly higher than others yeah okay there you go cfo is around 2.1 years i'm even higher right for some numbers that you're thinking about so why is that why is it that smaller company cfo's lifespan is short shorter why is it that the lifespan of startups for executives is shorter why is that it's hard it's it's freaking hard yeah it is not easy so why is it that the lifespan of a cfo is it that working with trump is harder because trump is what non-stop you know how easy it is to work for biden you ain't doing no calibration meaning hey let me tell you i don't think you're doing a good job he doesn't know that you even work how often you think biden's had a conversation about how bad of a job you're doing that's never happening with biden right he's the best boss because your calibration score is always high yeah the guy loves me he never criticized me never does anything right yeah working with trump holy shit two o'clock in the morning hey what's going on you're then then guess what happens here's the other thing so it's it's one o'clock in the morning two o'clock in the morning you're getting a text honey don't answer it yeah just go to sleep don't tell him in the president i have and you can only do that a few times but then you realize the wife's the problem for some people what they don't want to take the call so for me the enthusiasm level of bringing people right now that are hungry is what matters who you bring now next matters who those people are go nominate them but you need people like miller you need fighters like miller that have a chip preferably mid 30s to early 50s you light them up let them go and you have them for 12 to 18 months and you don't have them any long this is the time by the way some people should put their hands up some people some people should say i would do it what do you guys need let's roll some people need to put their hands up but uh a lot is on the line a lot is on the line for the team to get unified sometimes you lose you get your ass and hand it to you yeah i was watching last dance the other day you know which one i watch i watched the episode with the second time that they lost to the pistons and you know what he did when they lost you know it's the first thing he did the next day he calls tim grover saying let's go to the gym i gotta get buffer and he put on 15 pounds and he came back and swept the freaking piston yeah so bad that lambert and isaiah thomas didn't want to shake his hand they didn't they got off the stage and then guess what years later when he was going to the olympics to play for the dream team and he said is he gonna be there he's not that's the only way i'll play i remember the only way i'll play yeah but sometimes you get your ass handed to you and we gotta pick it up so sometimes that's the best thing that can happen but you need you need players that are bought in i always look at guys and i'll say i'll say this time i'm like hey that guy's not bought in i said this about one of our guys to tom four months ago five months ago i said that guy's not bought in what do you mean he's not bought in when i look at his face it's just a job he's not bought in but what do you think about her more bought in what do you think about him somewhat bought and what do you think about that guy fully bought in you're looking at the buy-in and this guy knows what that's like you don't think trump knows what it is to work with him you better believe he knows what it is to work with him so anyways it'll be interesting to see what they do next let me get into the next story next year i'm going to get into is slightly a different story of what we've been talking about talk about a guy that delivers on his promises bukele you guys know what happens with this bukele can you pull up the tweet where he responds back and saying can you tell me the grid coordinates of what this guy's at this is some crazy stuff by the way so bukele a person oh they removed it is this the bottom or is there a response to a tweet oh they removed the post got it so a guy puts on a tweet about what's going on with some christian uh uh guys that because you know four of his guys are missing in haiti that they went there on a humanitarian mission he sends 2 500 troops of his special forces the best of the best he says where is that house give us the exact address we're going to destroy it and then you know what happens can you do me a favor send up the video that shows the yeah here's a watch this here let me let me read the top go so go up so i can read the top what it says so we kept our promise we destroyed the house of lan mo san wo and 400 maozo gangs headquarters most of them ran away without even trying to fight what coward crying emoji watch this i love the crying emoji dude that's a chopper that's in the job what is that oh is that real footage oh yeah yeah oh yeah yeah dude done okay there goes the tennis court yeah by the way a guy on twitter gave the information and they went and lit this place up damn do you have the do you have the video that i sent you that shows what happened there like the detailed analysis of what happened i don't know if i send that one to you or not if you have it pull it up because it's very very interesting have they recorded have they recovered the guys pat the four people that were no not yet he hasn't recovered the guys which means guess what whoever this is it watch this one here what he ends up doing go ahead asked online for a gang boss's address and days later drones hit his house the house was used by wilson joseph the leader of 400 maozo one of haiti's most feared gangs his nickname is lanmo sanju death doesn't know what day in 2021 his gang kidnapped 17 missionaries mostly americans and asked for a million dollars each the u.s put a one million dollar reward on him then on october 18th four salvadoran technicians were ambushed near haiti's capital and vanished so bukele sent about two thousand five hundred soldiers to find them last week someone on x posted pictures of a new house linked to the gang boss with indoor and outdoor pools bukele replied where is this house give us the exact address and we will destroy it around the same time the gang boss asked the un for peace talks but on sunday at 2 30 in the morning explosive drones flown by haitian police hit the house haitian four helicopters covered them from above two of them from el salvador reports say up to 20 gunmen were inside but that's not confirmed and lanmo sanju he wasn't home two days later bukele posted the video promises kept we destroyed the house of lanmo sanju and the headquarters of 400 maozo he said most of them ran without even trying to fight what cowards haitian reporters still can't confirm how much was destroyed and some pictures going around were made with ai and the four technicians are still missing so bukele didn't get the gang boss or his four men back what he got was a message every gang can read we know where you live follow us by the way so when you watch this video you know what it does you know what it does what feeling does it give you you know we're not salvadorian we don't live in salvador but what feeling does it give me me promises made promise promise kept yeah promises made promises kept get a guy to get world respect from around the world to say hey you mess with us this is what we're going to do and those 2 500 soldiers are still there bro let me explain something to you i i mean i pray to god that they're not torturing and that they're still alive but for their sake like as an if i was el salvadorian besides what he did with the with the prison gangs and all those people that have their heads down and they're all shaved and they're all in their freaking underwear i want a leader that i know that if he's going to say he's going to talk to talk he's going to walk the walk path you know how comfortable i'd be knowing that he's out there looking like they're looking for you to come get you and they're bombing the front door and they're bombing the front door and they're freaking we live in the twilight zone we live in the twilight zone look at the tweet crying face emoji crying face white cowards crying face emoji got the information from x yeah to go blow up a gang leader's home and then saying you know happy face promises you know this reminds me of this idea of don rumsfeld and rumsfeld this goes back what 20 years now um rumsfeld's press conferences he had a reporter say to him and says you know the feeling about the united states is being diminished around the world they they're mocking you doesn't that bother you i mean this weekend there's going to be 200 al-qaeda that are protesting in this city square against the united states and the the the the citizens are not scared of them the citizens are afraid of them but they're not afraid of us and they're saying bad things about okay you're saying it was a saturday at 2 p.m and he said to her and he said he takes his paper out of his pocket and he said would you happen to have the coordinates no he goes 200 together saturday at 2 p.m okay got it do you have the coordinates and it's like everybody sat back at that said boy i wish it was that easy guess what today it is that it is that's what happens by the way you know who bukele is let me read this to you look how quickly gonna know who bukele is ready this is bukele i don't know who you are i don't know what you want if you're looking for ransom i can tell you i don't have money but what i do have are very particular set of skills yeah skills i have acquired over a very long career skills that make me a nightmare for people like you if you let my daughter go now that will be the end of it i will not look for you i will not pursue you but if you don't i will look for you i will find you and i will kill you oh and then the guy says what the famous lines that that's how he ends up tracing him good luck yeah remember that good luck good scene and he goes you know there's a scene that he gets into it's got the chills he goes into a scene he's in the house he finds the place and he says hey i need the money to be higher if you don't i'm going to tell it i need you to give me 10 then we're going to raise it to 15 and then he's about to leave he hands the guy a note he says hey people want to tell me what what does these two words mean in albanian can you translate it in english and in albanian it says good luck and the guy says good luck and he says that's the guy he says you don't remember me do you oh that was it i'm the one who called you and then you see the guys take the gun boom boom boom he kills everybody right from taking taking liam that's freaking amazing that movie kelly is that guy he is that guy but in spanish but in spanish sabadorian and with an entire army but yeah exactly moley i will find you and i will kill you that's bukele bukele should get a shirt that says i will look for you i will find you i will kill you have a special set of skills he will send a son we helped uh you know uh dominic tarjinsky sell a bunch of shirt called be like poland yeah i think bukele should get a shirt that would sell millions of shirts called i will kill you anyways all right let's go to the next story next time i want to get into is an interesting one that uh just happened is this this this story with the girl what happened with the girl on the campus monkey they're going door knocking and all of a sudden they get kicked out school sends them out they raise a bunch of money what happened so yeah they pretty much walked by we have the video of a dorm uh room was it a dorm room maybe it was they were calling a ring camera making monkey noises just outside the apartment where black students live this is what they're doing this is exactly it this is and they did it now look the girl in the back does nothing by the way she was punished and kicked out of the universe she was also just because of association guilty by association and so were they doing this to every house they supposedly did it to a few other room four other ones and they publicly apologized but they said they had no idea that black students live there and they also reported doing the same thing to four different doors they did it to every other i don't know if there's ring cams on other doors they did it to every other i don't know if there's ring cams on other doors they did it to every other i don't know if there's ring cams on other doors they did it to but there's no confirmed evidence that they knew who lived in that apartment the the social outrage over this though the forget one thing the university giving them consequences but the outcry over it is surprising It's like we're reverting back to woke season. Because I'm actually shocked at some of the stuff I'm seeing online. People want to destroy these girls' lives. Like, I understand it's not a good look. It could easily be interpreted as racist. You know what? We've gotten to a point where every time I open the internet, there's just extreme racism everywhere. Anyway, that's what I'm confused about. You open the internet, there's a video of people on the street saying, oh, Hitler was right, blah, blah, blah. Or like some kind of insane racist stuff. It's just become completely normalized. So for this to get the level of outrage it's getting feels like a social reversion. Like the pendulum is swinging back in the other direction. And you're seeing now that they're also getting support on GoFundMe. And it's kind of playing both sides again. And we're entering that phase where you're slowly going to see more and more and more extreme reactions and social outrage. So this was November 6th. Ring camera caught it. The video goes viral on TikTok. By Tuesday, it's got 12.5 million views. And black students. Three black, I don't want to read their names, who live in that dorm. One student identified herself, 18 years old, acknowledged her involvement. She called her actions insensitive, inappropriate, and deeply harmful. Her explanation, Kuhn said she had never been in that residence, did not know who lived there. Anyways, long story short, apparently these guys got kicked out of school and they raised some money. Yeah, but it's more that the response to them is extreme online. We're seeing that. I don't know if you guys remember just how bad cancel culture was going back four years. We're starting to head back into that tone again where everything's going to be held to such an extreme standard where essentially people want to destroy you, destroy you. This is how old is she, 21? Probably not even. If they're in school. But I tell you, man, listen. Look, I hate to say this. If phones were around when we were in the military, some of the stuff we did in the military would have been horrible. Some of the pranks we pulled were legendary pranks that we did, right? And so thank God there was no social media. If there was social media, you have to manage expectation and teach kids, don't behave this way. Don't act like a fool. Don't go do dumb things like this. Now, I'm sure parents probably had the conversation with them, but a part of it is on them. A part of it is on the backlash. You're living in a time where anything can be exaggerated. Anything can be exaggerated. Be aware of it. There's a school down the street in Boca or Boynton, American Heritage. We're not American Heritage. Am I saying it correctly, Tom? American Heritage is the school? It's one of the best schools in Florida. Average SAT score, graduating class 1380, 1390. High in math, good education, good campus, for-profit school, good school. You know what the owner's son one time said on a video? The owner's son at 15 years old, the owner of the school's son. You know what he said? It was all over the news. He drops the N-word in a video. And not in a nice way. No, not in a nice way. Like a rapper with a hard R? Did he hard R it, Tom? Not quoting hip-hop. He was angry. Oh, that's funny. You don't need to play this. I don't want to rehash this. This was about two years ago. No, I'm not. I'm just framing it. And by the way, we used to go to that school. We took our school kids out because there was a teacher there that I was not a fan of and a principal of the middle school. I wrote a 3,400-word letter to her. Never got a call back, anything. I'm like, we're taking all our kids out of this place. Probably cost them a few million dollars because they're $40,000, $50,000 a year school. You have to pay attention and teach and show these kids. Parents, here's what I would do. Take this video, show it to all your kids. Hey. If they're innocent, they're just being playful, don't do this because you're living in a different time. Here's what ring cameras are catching today. Just assume everywhere you go. I remember one time we were in a meeting. A man named Rich says to us, we're in insurance sales. It says 2003, 2004, 2005. He says every time you give a presentation about investments, always assume a regulator is there recording the entire conversation. Don't use words like guarantee. Don't use these words. Understand you're being recorded, and this is 04, 05, 06 that social media is not even there. Imagine now today, you're in meetings and people are running fathom and recording the whole thing, right? And they're not even asking now. There's just assumed that's what's happening today. It would be nice if society had a little bit of a cultural shift back to the idea of a little bit of grace. I'm not saying what she did was a good look. I do. I personally do think it was racist. I've taken that position, but I don't, I think that there's a danger in the, the piling. You're not wrong. Yeah, it can lead to, you're not wrong, but my, my thing is I wish we found like, can they prove that you are like, is there ring cams on other things? Were you doing this? Like, cause you have to just take people's words at this point. That looks horrible. Do, are they doing it to any other apartments or they, did they just target this one? And I, and I, and I know even then I don't believe in ruining someone's life like forever. Cause bro, you know what, you know what I don't want to happen. We're going to get back to that point where like you have the juicy sloop SMA where, you know, I was, they had a noose. I don't want to do that. Then the bubble, what was his name? Tommy bubble Wallace. Oh, there was a noose in my garage. No, it wasn't. It was a loop that was on a pull down for the, uh, for the garage. And there were other, it was like standard. No one put a noose in to set a record. They use it. It wasn't that it wasn't, it wasn't that official, which is a disgusting thing to do. Not at all. It was a simple thing hanging from the top of a garage door opener. It was the catch release. Yeah. It wasn't that, but they used it. They jumped on it. Anything for the narrative. You know what it does? It feeds more and more and more into identity politics. I've, I, I tell everyone, everyone tries to play the game of identity politics, even on the right. It's played lately. I don't like identity politics. To me, identity politics is fundamentally against God's message. You're, you're literally looking at someone and saying, because of your skin color, your race, your sex, whatever it is, you're different. And there's a victim hierarchy that's built off of it. The left has been doing it for such a long time. I'm fundamentally against. I'm fundamentally against all identity politics. And yet when we see videos like this, it feeds it so much because on the opposite end of this, what this creates also is a bunch of white people who go, oh my God, look at how strongly they're being punished. But you have people calling white people cracker. You have people doing all this and there's no consequence. They're public. And so you get these more extreme size. And by the way, let me give you the complete opposite side. Here's an, here's an athlete. Okay. He's about to get into the NFL. I think he's accepted into going and playing for a USC. All right. So. So think about multimillion dollar contract. Good things are going to happen to him. And all of a sudden he has consensual sex with a girl. Watch how this thing completely turns. Go for it. Now I'm 17 and instead of facing minor camp time or juvenile hall time, I was now facing 41 years to life in prison. Um, they tacked on a kidnapping charge with care, which carries life in the state of California. Um, and what was happening behind the scenes, what I would later find out, which the accuser admitted to on video was that every time. Every time she would hear my side of the story, uh, she would add more to her story because she didn't want to look like a liar because it was getting so deep on her end that she had to keep pushing the story. So while I was sitting in jail, I was in jail for one count of next thing you know, it was two counts of next thing you know, it was three counts of next thing you know, it was three counts of and sodomy next thing you know, it was three counts of sodomy and kidnapping. Now I'm facing 41 years to life. These stack, these charges just continue to stack up and I had no clue. My mom had no clue. We didn't know how this was happening. Until years later, I didn't know how that all went down, but now, so let me, let me read through what happens here. 16 years old. Brian banks was one of the best high school linebackers in America. USC offered him full ride scholarship. Pete Carroll personally called them one afternoon. Okay. At school, this guy that we're talking about one afternoon school, uh, he made out with a classmate consensual. By the end of the day, he was in jail charged with kidnapping and rape. He said he dragged her into the stairwell. She said this, it never happened. The DNA came back negative. His mother sold her house and her car to pay for a lawyer. Stay with this one, Vinny. He couldn't make bail. He spent a year behind bars for trial. His lawyer told him, plead no contest or risk 41 years in prison. He was 17. He took the deal. He did five years in prison, Vinny. Then five more on parole, registered sex offender, GPS monitor on his ankle. Couldn't go near schools or parks. No one hired him. Meanwhile, the girl and her mother sued the school district for not keeping her safe. They won one and a half million dollars in 2011. A Facebook friend request popped on his screen. Let me say this again. In 2011, a Facebook friend request popped on his screen. It was her. She wanted to let bygones be bygones. Brian went to a private investigator. They hit cameras in the office and invited her to talk. She came by bus on tape. She admitted he never raped her. He never kidnapped her. Then she said she still wouldn't tell prosecutors the truth because she would have to give the money back. And by the way, 60 Minutes had a story on this. In May 2012, a judge clears his name. The hearing took less than a minute. Ten years of his life. Gone in one lie. Erased in 60 seconds. A few days later, his phone rang. I'm looking for a linebacker. You know where I can find one? It was Pete Carroll. What? The same catch. The same coach who recruited him ten years earlier. He finally signed with the NFL's Atlanta Falcons at 27. The dream he had at 16. She was ordered to pay the $2.6 million back. What should happen to this person who stole ten years of your life with one lie? What a. And the girl's like, we don't have the money. Story. Tell me that is not the craziest story. And staying in it and not giving up and staying to. And then, by the way, what inspired her? Like, something inside of her was like, I have to tell him and thank God that they were smart enough to understand. And record it all. Is that the clip? Is that another clip you guys got up there? Is that it? Watch this one here. 26-year-old Brian Banks needed a moment for the news to sink in. The rape conviction that he was with for 10 years was overturned by a judge in a matter of minutes. Blasting his hands and shaking with emotion. A life wound is a life wound. This is the part. This is what Elon's talking about. You ruined this guy's 10 years. You know my opinion. I think that if you are proven to have falsely accused someone of rape, you should go to jail for the amount of time that they would have gone to jail for. I think it needs to be more than that. I think it needs to be even more painful. Or however, I agree. Minimum is how long that you had them go into jail. If he's in there for, what was it, five or six years? No, it should be that if she needs to go in for six years. No, it should be that if he was supposed to serve a 15-year sentence. Have her do 15. Marcus Dixon, do you guys remember him? I remember Marcus. Yeah, of course. Oprah had him on her show back in the day, and he was accused of rape and battery as well. And then he was 18 at the time where he had consensual rape. Relations with a 15-year-old girl. And they got him on statutory rape when they couldn't try him for her because the whole story fell apart in court. And then they gave him a 10-year conviction, and then Oprah fought to have him freed. And it was overturned. Oh, man. But there's all types of crazy stories of false accusations. Yeah, I mean, this is where it gets nasty. I don't like stories like this because it's so easy. And, you know, in the military, they would tell you, it was one thing the sergeant said to us. He says, whatever. Whatever you do, especially with military girls, he says, especially with military girls, never be in your barracks with one alone. Yep. Never. You're not going to win. They would tell you that over and over and over again. Never let any girl. So the barracks, second and third floor were all guys. First floor was the girls. Okay? So the girls would come up to the second floor, and they were not allowed to. They would tell you you can't come up. And when they're coming up, it's like, hey, here's what that person, here's what this person did. And these are things parents need to be involved in, having these conversations. But even when you do, look what happened to you. It's some crazy stuff that's going on. Tom, any thoughts on this story from your end? Yeah, I have. You know, these boys need fathers. And the fathers that they need are the ones to encourage them to say, look, I hate to say it, but you've got to walk around with some paranoia. They, especially now with NIL, you have money as a 17-year-old stepping into college. NIL, there are 17-year-olds that are stepping into college. And you have NIL. Tom, all he did here is just make out with a girl. You can't. I mean, it's impossible to avoid, Tom. Well. Don't make out with a girl? Is that what you tell? Like, don't make out with a girl? You have to go with extreme caution. You have to go with ridiculous levels of caution. There's no 17-year-old who's going to have that degree of caution. It's an impossible standard. Unfortunately, it also hurts women tremendously. I have two points. My first point is you've got to just. You've got to just encourage your boys to be almost paranoid maniacs about what possibly could happen. I mean, he's kind of right. But the second thing, I think she's got to do time. I think the false. Look, there have been false accusations that have resulted in horrifying things across our country. Look what the Duke, speaking of Stephen Miller, look at what the Duke lacrosse players had to go through. Look what they had to go through. And it had ended rightfully so before they ended up in jail, before they ended up doing time, that the district attorney got caught. Thank goodness. Thank God that this happened that way. But she's got to do time. I'm going to play a devil's advocate, even though I previously, and I am in agreement with all of this. The other end of it, which I've thought about too, is number one, I think these things hurt women like crazy because now real accusations, they're not taking us serious. But if you start saying there's a gray area where if you are now going to court for a potential criminal charge for an accusation of sexual assault or rape, so the girl makes the accusation, what's the standard of proof for malicious intent? And if you start making that a little bit gray, you could put women who believe they were in fact actually raped in prison because of that gray area where they're found to have made a false allegation. Well, I mean, it kind of happened with the Johnny Depp, Amber Heard situation, right? Well, she was in prison. She was asked to pay for the money, not the other way around. For many years, you thought he was the one that was abusive when it was actually her. But he is famous and he's got money. So he has access to good lawyers. So in this situation, you know, mom had to sell the house to get the money and be able to pay some of that off. So I want to go into another story before we wrap up. Steph Curry. Steph Curry's wife ends up starring in a movie where she makes out with another guy. Couple of the podcasters in the NBA space, Gilbert Arenas and Nick Young, Gilbert Arenas used to play for the Wizards. He's, I think, one time scored 63, 61 points. Nick Young was a Laker, played a couple of different places. Here's what they said about Aisha Curry that got Steph Curry to respond. And I want to know what you guys think about it. Go ahead. He is the definition of what everybody sees as a father. His kids is kids. Got the best kids. The only blemish in the family is the wife, in a sense. Yeah. Because she doesn't act like the other superstars' wives. Yeah. You know, Jordan's wife, Cookie, you know, that's Magic's wife, right? Savannah, right? Where we don't want to hear you. We just want to know you're there, you're fine. Like, you are taking the pictures, you know, doing. But we don't want to know you. There's something else that made the internet go crazy, too. Yeah, where, you know, she goes to DMs and stuff like that. It was, you know what I mean? So, remember, she goes to the DMs, you know, chat with dudes, you know, because she needs the. She needs the inter. Attention. She needs the attention. Because he doesn't give her the attention because he's focused on. I didn't know she was chatting in DMs. Yeah, it was something else. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can pause it right there. So, you know. And so, they're talking about Aisha Curry because one time she said, you know, I want to be flirted with. We go places. Because, you know, have you ever seen the clip of that one girl that flirts with Steph Curry at a game? You ever seen. No. Stop it. I swear. Are you joking? I don't care about the NBA. This thing got built. You guys got to find this. Steph Curry one time is going back. You've never seen this? I swear to you. Guys, I have to. Now I have. Now I have. Is his wife there? Respectfully. In front of his wife, they did? Oh, guys, like, one time, Steph is going off the bench, okay? And he's going to the bench, and this girl eyes Steph Curry in a way that I. Oh, my goodness. Now that I brought it up, I have to show you this. I have to show you this clip because it was an insane, insane exchange, and the girl signals, and everybody said, man, I want my girl to look at me the way that girl looked at Steph Curry. We'll play that here in a minute. Okay. But let's isolate this. Okay. So she says, I don't get as much attention as he does. Girls always flirt with him, but guys don't flirt with me. She said this, I think, on the Jada Pinkett podcast. I don't know which one it was. It was maybe that one or one of those ones. Yeah. So then she goes and stars in a movie, and in the movie, she kisses somebody. If you want to play the movie that she's in, Ayesha Curry, if you can type in movie, just go up and search and type in movie. Yeah, that's all you got to do. There you go. And that's the movie, okay, where Ayesha Curry, romantic comedy on Roku channel, okay, and we're promoting it. Go watch it for some of you guys that like it. 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Like by singing everything for emphasis That. and by providing you with coverage on a page in easy-to-understand language so you know what's covered and what's not. In full transparency, we do have to put a disclaimer at the end of this ad, though. Just being honest. That's what you get when You have farmers. Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum. I just wanted to check in right quick. I've been hearing a lot of noise, and usually the noise doesn't bother me. It doesn't bother Aisha, but this one in particular, when I'm trying to step on the accomplishments of my wife and obviously leading podcast tapings and topics and giving opinions on somebody else's wife, Nick, Gil, Emmanuel, and anybody else who feels the need to want to have to jump in and give an opinion on something you don't really know about, something that. kind of speaks to a bigger conversation on how you view women in this world and what they're allowed and what they're not allowed to do. Even the ignorance behind how acting works. Obviously, I tried to laugh this one off, but, you know, something needs to be said, and, you know, anytime Aisha Curry shows up in your headline, I'd, you know, kindly suggest you just, you know, give the, you know, the happy hands, the congratulations, and maybe, you know, just maybe, you know, the apology can be as loud as, you know, y'all leading y'all shows with this topic. So, appreciate the free pub. Thank you for giving a nice shout-out to Second Chance Holiday, which y'all can find on Roku, starring Aisha Curry. Pause the record. That's pretty much it. How do you feel about his response? Very chill, very tempered. I mean, he seems very cool. And to get to the point, man, he's comfortable, he's okay with having his wife be in a movie and kissing another guy. And guess what? That's your prerogative. But on the flip side of the coin, you can't get upset if your wife is allegedly in other people's DMs and doing that type of stuff, and then she's in a movie. Guess what? That's what podcasters are going to do. They're going to talk. That comes with the territory, okay? And I don't know how comfortable you guys are. I'm not married, but even the girls, that I was dating, I wouldn't want anybody that I'm with, let alone my wife, tonguing or kissing or whatever, another guy, period. But if that's what you like, meaning if you're fine with that, no, Elon, if you're cool with that and she's making her money and that's her life, fine. I don't really agree with Gilbert Arenas. Like, hey, just be like every other's wife and just be there. I don't agree with that. You can still have your own dreams. You can have your own thing, but at the same token, get upset when people talk because that's the world. He's sitting on a podcast. When's the last time Gilbert Arenas played in freaking NBA? 15 years, 10 years? He's been out 10 years, but this is what, this is what, if he's happy with it, it's his prerogative. It is what it is. How do you, how do you process? It's got to be very, very difficult to be married to a megastar. Just off the bat, especially when the megastar is a man and you know that they're getting hit on all the time and you're the wife. Tom gets that. You have no idea. Tom, I've seen a lot when we walk out of this room. Girls are throwing themselves. But anyway, that's neither here nor there. Go ahead, Eli. They're flipping over the fence. Those were elderly women and they actually tripped. They're on a tour. They're on a tour. They had canes. Their teeth fall out and they mess with God. I'm sorry. I've had intimate scenes in movies. They're not as intimate as people believe. They're not romantic. They're very technical. And so I'd be a hypocrite if I said, oh, no one should do that. But I would have a problem with it. It was my wife. By the way, this is the picture I was talking about. Watch this one here. So this is a girl named, I believe, Ronnie Rose, who when Steph Curry was going to the bench, you have to see the whole clip. I'm not sending the whole clip. So she gives the look to Steph and everybody loses it. Apparently, she's like a social media influencer. Her name is Ronnie Rose. She responded to it. She says, I was just drinking my drink and this happened. I'm just giving the boys a little bit of motivation, I guess. Go Warriors. Go Warriors, right? So there's another one as well. Do you have the other one? There's a couple of them. Now, Steph Curry's a – here's another one that's pretty funny. Watch this. You have the audio. She's looking at her husband. Yeah. I feel worse for the husband. Wait more, wait more, wait more. Look at that. The lip bite. The lip bite. So, look, I mean, it's Steph Curry, four-time champion. You never have four in the world to win. I thought his response was actually very – Incredibly fast. Amazing, amazing. But I want to ask – Steph Curry was angry, but you stand up for your wife and he did it right. So, okay, not married, but would you – Pat, would you or Tom let your wife be an actress – not be an actress, but be in a scene with a dude – and by the way, they've been married for a very long time. How long have they been married? 15 years. 15 years. They've been married for – Tom, would you guys be comfortable if your wives were like, I want to be an actress and I got this role in this love movie called – what is it called? Whatever. Christmas Kissings. Whatever. Are you cool with it? There are actors and actresses of faith that are out there, not just Christian, but it's prevalent Christian actors, that don't – that will not do a kissing scene. They don't do a love scene, don't do kissing scenes. They don't take those movies. Neil Macdonald is one of them. There you go, right there. Data heard his career. They're very, very – and Kirk Cameron is another one. Will not take those roles. Heard his career too. Yep. And, you know, and Steph Curry, he did it in a very nice way. I thought it was a very nice way to do it because you got to be careful with Giller. Gillerinas may bring a gun to come talk to you. Just ask Javaris Crittenden, remember? He put four guns on his chair in the locker room with a note that said, pick one, and one of them was a bright gold. I think it was the Desert Eagle. It was a serious gun. And then Javaris pulls out his own gun, and then everybody ran from the locker room. It was pretty funny. But just remember, that's Gillerinas, and you don't want to piss off Gil. Yeah, that escalated. He'll come pop a cap in your ass. Look, it's not for – can you run the poll? Can you run the poll? Would you be okay with your wife starring in a movie and kissing a man in a movie? Just run a poll. Let's see what our audience today is a little bit pissed off, man. They're kind of like, listen, they've got high expectations. Let's see what they say. No. I used to date a girl who was in the entertainment space, and we were together for a couple years, and we'd go to premieres, and she'd be in movies. And she was in a movie called – anyways, I don't want to say the movie because I'm going to get weird DMs. But you know the movie. Catholic Girls in Trouble? 9.5 on 10 today, Tom. You are so funny. Oh, my God, you are so funny. Sorry. But you imagine – Catholic Girls in Trouble. By the way, somebody's actually Googling that movie and saying, let me see if it's real. It's probably real. I made it up. No, no. It's probably real, Tom. You didn't make that up. You say you made it up. It's probably real. But I'm going to tell you something. You know what it was when the conversation was had is it's just not something I would do. It's not for me. It's not for me. It's not for me. I have no interest in that. And you could be the most famous actress in the world for me to be with you and have to – You do. I can't. And have the kids. But, you know, for some people, it's okay. That's fine. It is all the business of the husband and the wife. Yes. It's all – if the husband and the wife are good, go for it. If they're not good, it is what it is. Can I ask Vinny a question? If you got a movie co-starring Leonardo DiCaprio, Brad Pitt, but you're married and you have to make out with a girl. Vinny would have no problem with that. The better question is the following. No, no. Now, reverse it. No, I'm going to ask the question a different way. You're in a movie with Leonardo DiCaprio, but it's Brokeback Mountain 2. Would you kiss Leo for $6.2 million? Wow. Honestly. Pre-tax, after-tax. Pre-tax. No, I'm not kissing him. No agent. No agent. No, Vinny, for sure. Kissing him like – You're kissing Leo. Absolutely. 100% I'm kissing Leo. You know me. No, absolutely. 1 million percent. Tonguing down – guys. 1 million percent close-up. Get in there. No way, dude. I don't give a shit. Tom, would you? No way. And I'm paying my union fee. Brokeback Mountain? Hell no. I'm the all-in guy here. Brokeback Mountain 2 and you and Leo. It's $6.2 million. No. Or Brad Pitt. You get the cheese. Sorry, dude. Are you nuts? But you know what's the chances of me doing something like that? It's slim to not to do something like that. But it's, again, it's for everybody. What I'm trying to say, it's you. You know, people that are in the entertainment space, when I was in and I was living a different life, I was like, dude, who cares? What's the big deal? And then eventually you got to make that decision for yourself. Anyways, all right. Now, by the way, I thought today was Monday. Today is Friday. I know. It's weird. I don't know why I feel like it's a Monday. Me too. I feel like today is Friday. It's Friday. 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