Go back

JD Vance Embarrasses Himself In Tech Bro Interview

21m 57s

JD Vance Embarrasses Himself In Tech Bro Interview

The transcript critiques the administration’s approach to artificial intelligence and foreign policy, highlighting significant public skepticism. Critics argue that major tech companies build AI with little oversight, risking uncontrollable outcomes, while simultaneously claiming to support regulation—only to undermine it through behind-the-scenes actions. Public polling indicates strong demand for AI regulation, yet no clear policy framework exists. J.D. Vance’s AI policy is dismissed as poorly reasoned, relying on misleading arguments about energy infrastructure and political blame. His handling of the Iran war is also widely condemned, with polling showing declining public trust, rising costs, and no tangible benefits. Voters remain largely skeptical, with Democrats leading on most issues except AI, where confusion and lack of clarity prevail. The segment uses humor and satire to underscore the disconnect between corporate narratives and public concerns, framing the current era as one of unchecked technological ambition and political inaction. Overall, the commentary suggests a growing crisis of confidence in both corporate and governmental responses to AI and foreign policy.

Transcription

3770 Words, 20660 Characters

English
This week, Vice President J.D. Vance rolled out the administration's new artificial intelligence policy. Let's watch. What I would say to those people, if you're building Frankenstein, stop. Or maybe build, you know, if the cat is out of the bag, then build the defensive mechanism against Frankenstein. First of all, Frankenstein is the scientist. Yeah, you're not building Frankenstein, you're building the monster. He builds the monster that everyone was thinking maybe could kill us. So just, you know, take that home, J.D., maybe adjust. Second, I guess the policy is just to hope that big corporations put our interests ahead of profits. That's what we're doing here. Just stop. Cut it out. That's also Mark Zuckerberg. He hadn't weighed in on this whole thing. And yesterday he basically said the same thing. He's like, look, all the companies, we have an incentive not to roll out models and chatbots that are dangerous because that wouldn't be good for business. That's, I mean, I guess years of leadership that. Meta and Instagram would suggest otherwise, since there's like internal data that's like, hey, Instagram is bad for young girls. And they're like, yeah, we're we're actually just throwing away any semblance of what government has been for since the beginning of the republic laws, regulations. And it's all just like, hey, hey, company, if you're doing something bad, maybe don't do that bad thing. And what's frustrating is that Mark Zuckerberg aside, these companies pretend that they want. Regulations. Some of them really do. I think it's probably really does. Open AI pays lip service to regulation and then behind the scenes has its people funnel money to organizations that try to undercut it. But also the polling overwhelmingly shows that Americans want AI regulated. It's not like it's not a top concern for most voters. Like the New York Times pull out today that shows that AI is like a it's a thing a small group of people are really passionate about. But the numbers are moving fast because we're all talking about this a lot more these days. So, again, the concern, the catastrophic existential concern is that these companies are all building something and they're racing ahead so fast that they suddenly build something that they lose control of. And if they're going to lose control of it, then like that's not they can't stop. That's the whole fucking thing. And the other thing is that they even would admit that they don't really understand how the technology works in the first place. So this whole thing is just so frustrating. By the way. That clip of J.D. Vance is from his interview with the All In podcast, which is a good time to say that if you want to support a show that isn't just MAGA propaganda from insufferable tech billionaires, please subscribe to Pod Save America here on YouTube. We're trying to build a progressive counterweight to that crap that we just watched there. And when you subscribe and like and share the episodes, it really helps us out a lot. Vance was also asked about the war in Iran and inflation. Let's watch that response. You promised us you wouldn't start a foreign war in the Middle East specifically. And then you promised you would get inflation under control. You haven't been able to get inflation under control still three or 4% this year. It's not looking good and Americans, specifically the people who voted for you, Mr. Vice President, are very upset about starting this war. What is your message to them? How do these two issues get resolved? Because people are very unhappy about it. Yeah. So, so, Jason, I understand that and I certainly hear from people and what I would say, first of all, is we invite people in. People into the coalition who disagree with us. You don't have to agree with us on every single issue. But on the war specifically, what I would say is, look, the president came in and yes, he wanted to keep the United States out of foreign entanglements. He also said that he was committed to Iran not having a nuclear weapon. And I think that wanting to keep the United States out of foreign entanglements does not mean that you can never use the military in order to accomplish the American people's objectives. Give us another chance or give us another couple of years to continue to work on the amazing things that we've been doing for the past year. For the past two years. Tucker Carlson, take me back. Please. I still love you. Please give us another chance. Besides the pathetic pleading at the end, do you think that response is going to convince voters? What what objectives are you talking about? What objectives have you achieved, JD Vance? Yeah. What have we gotten done here? Since February, when they started attacking Iran and started this war, literally, what objectives have you achieved? The Strait of Hormuz is now closed. The Bab al-Mandeb Strait is closed. So the Red Sea is now closed. Give us a couple more years for all the amazing things we're doing. What amazing things are you doing? Yeah, it's like their argument now is basically like continuing to keep the border closed. I don't know, more tariffs or something. I mean, as for the war, I mean, Ben and I talked about some polling on Pod Save the World this week, my foreign policy show. Please like and subscribe. It's a great show. Great show. This was polling from the Eurasia Group. Approval for the Iran war is 34%. Is that good? 23% of voters said the war has made the United States safe. It's safer. The rest said it made no difference or made us less safe. Eighty-one percent of Americans think the war has raised the cost of living, at least some. Only 37% of Americans trust the administration to provide accurate information about the war. And then, you know, I think you and I have seen like a bunch of additional polling and message testing that looks at arguments like J.D.'s there, that like we had to stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapons weapon. And a lot of those arguments are underwater even with like MAGA voters. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Everyone countered with the message about gas prices and the cost of living. If you say why do we always have money for bombs and not money for healthcare or schools or whatever, that poll isn't like the 99th percentile. In 2010 when we got absolutely creamed in the midterms, Barack Obama's message was inherited disaster, financial crisis, and yes, we're not out of the woods yet but we're going in the right direction. That failed as a message. It did have the virtue at least of being true. It's true that things were slowly improving. These guys have the opposite problem which they have done things that are making life worse for people both on the war front which is spiking fuel prices all over the world now and on the tariff front, starting a trade war with Canada. So like to the extent that they're like give us a couple more years, give us a chance, a chance to continue slapping tariffs on things and continue spiking fuel prices because you can't get out of a war. Or invade Cuba. Or invade Cuba. What's up? What's on the horizon that we should look forward to? Remember that incredibly condescending answer from JD Vance like six months ago when he was asked about his opposition to the war and how that like makes sense given what they're doing and he said, "All the other wars were fought by dumb presidents." That's the difference. Like how's that one going? Yeah. This one's a genius right there. Condescending prick. Yeah. We're almost out of it. We should talk about the New York Times poll that was out this week. So the gist is Trump's approval rating is at 38 percent with likely voters. Democrats have an eight-point advantage in the generic ballot. Dems are at 51 percent. The Republicans are at – Republican candidate is at 43 percent. Democrats are winning on every issue in the poll except artificial intelligence. Did you notice that? That was sort of surprising. Yeah. Well, it was also the issue where the largest percentage of voters said they weren't sure because I think – Yeah. Undecided. I mean I don't know. Could you name what the Democrats – could you describe the Democrat position on artificial intelligence? No. Not even a little bit. And I couldn't really describe – I guess I could describe the Republican's position which is don't know. Don't know. Don't do anything. Laissez-faire. Nothing. Just – yeah. So – but like immigration they're underwater on now? Yeah. They're underwater on everything, national security, immigration, the economy. It's good. It's really hopeful. I mean look, gerrymandering is going to still make it quite tough to win a big majority. Democrats need a net gain of four Senate seats assuming John Fetterman doesn't switch parties and fuck us. There's nine competitive seats. Republicans are defending six of nine. You know, fingers crossed there. Yeah. They asked a question about the Senate specifically that they kind of slipped in at the end and Democrats were leading by even more if you asked voters who do you want for the Senate seat, a Republican or Democrat, which is good news. I mean look, the New York Times poll is famously the most accurate poll, the gold standard poll, and here we are what, 45-something days left to the election? Not a ton of time for Republicans to turn things around at this point. Yeah. Let's keep running this. Dan Pfeiffer had a great conversation with Nate Silver about the New York Times poll and all the data that's out there that's on the Pod Save America feed. You know what it made me think? What? That we got the national poll and now for the next week or so … The states. I'm going to be waking up. My body is going to wake me up at 3:34 in the morning and be like, "Are the Senate polls dropping?" John is going to be like, "Texas." That's what I'm thinking. Pod Save America breaking news is brought to you by ZipRecruiter with everyday interactions becoming increasingly impersonal. Someone going just one extra step can be huge, like when my doctor takes the time to call me with test results instead of sending them electronically. They came back positive for gay. It makes me feel like a human being again. If you're hiring, great candidates can also go the extra step and tell you why they're interested in your job on ZipRecruiter as a way to stand out from others in the pool. And ZipRecruiter has a new feature showing you the most interested, qualified candidates first so you can meet the right people faster. ZipRecruiter's powerful matching technology finds qualified candidates quickly. They can tell you in their own words why they're interested in your job. So try ZipRecruiter and meet great candidates who will go the extra step for your job. Four out of five employers who post on ZipRecruiter get a quality candidate within the first day. Try it for free today at ZipRecruiter.com/crooked. That's ZipRecruiter.com/crooked. ZipRecruiter, meet your match on ZipRecruiter. I wanted to play one more question for you that went to JD Vance from the All In Dudes. This is from a guy named Brad Gerstner, who I guess is like a regular guest host on the show. I was wondering who this guy was. Let's watch. Great to see you. President called in yesterday. He's on top of the AI issue. You're working for somebody who's the most incredibly entrepreneurial and risk-taking president perhaps in the last 50 years. I just at a, you know, personal level, how is it working with somebody who is willing to take the risk that, you know, some people, you know, Jason criticized some of the things that haven't happened in the first 20 months. But the fact of the matter is, unlike a lot of people who occupy that office, who are just looking to stay the course and take the safe path, he's taking a lot of risks. And then you have to help explain some of those. I would put Trump accounts in that category, the Main Street agenda. But, you know, just talk to us a little bit at a personal level, how working with him, how hard it is to keep up with his energy, his enthusiasm, his entrepreneurialism. It's weird that you could hear that question so clearly while he had J.D. Vance's ball gargling in his mouth. It's so embarrassing. I was listening to that episode, because I'm a big all-in listener, yesterday, and I was by myself in the office walking around with my AirPods in, and I heard that question, and I literally just yelled out loud to no one, fuck you. Are you fucking kidding me? Like, if someone had been walking by the office, I'd be like, is he okay? It's like, look, it's a very, like, conservative show. David Sachs, one of the hosts, worked for the Trump administration. Jason Kalkanis is kind of like the token centrist who asked the good question that we heard. And he got shit for that. They were all like, oh, we got the journalist on the panel asking the real questions. He did another one like that to the Microsoft guy, Satya. And they were like, oh, sorry. Because it's like, sorry, we're supposed to be fluffing everyone. And Jason tried to ask a real question. Well, like, the thing about that question, it's just like, I don't know, man, did you put like five seconds of thought into it? You could ask something that's interesting that's not like abrasive or hard. It's just like, what's it like to work for someone who's so awesome? Like, what do you think you're going to get from that? You're going to get talking points. And of course, JD Vance was like, well, you know, he calls, sometimes he says to Marco and me at 2.30 in the morning, are you guys up? And then we're like, now we are, sir. Let's talk. And I'm like, okay, how many times has that fucking happened? And we know that the guy is up watching TV or tweeting or like fixating on the ballroom, right? It's not like serious. You think he calls him at 2.30 in the morning. He's like, what are we going to do about recursive self-improvement JD? Uh, we're short on SM three interceptor munitions. What should we do about it? Um, not every part of the all in podcast event was terrible. The guys invited a looks maxing influencer named clavicular to join them. Uh, and then he was asked to rate one of the hosts appearance. Uh, this goober named Chamath. Here's how it went. Can I believe I missed this? I think a little bit more, I think a little bit more height to your skull. Um, so it's at a four millimeters height and we're balanced out official birds. And what's my score? Um, I would say he's four punches. I mean, he's got to keep me. I would say maybe like a two. Had you seen that before? No. So bad. I missed that. How great is it? He does it like he gives him a two. Uh, what's fun. Like so much of that is funny. First of all, why is clavicular dressed like Michael Jackson? I don't know. I don't know. I've never like, I don't think I've ever seen him in a setting like that, like outside of the club or, uh, or, or somewhere like that. He's like, yeah, very weird. Um, I liked it. Chamath was not amused whatsoever. No. He was talking about like, help fix your face and make you look more masculine. How do you add height to your skull? Yeah. I don't know. What surgery does that? I mean, I got a, I got a five head, so like you can borrow some of mine, but like more hair on the top. So it's like an illusion. Oh, like Trey Gowdy. You just do like the weird, like you just squish it. Yeah. Maybe there's some, like some, some clay you can put on there. I don't know. But like, you know, it's actually a funny exchange. Like the audience is laughing obviously, but clavicular is like dead serious. Not doing a bit. No, that guy is committed to the bit if, if he is doing it. And in like Chamath is he's some like VC guy. He's a billionaire. He's the most sensitive little baby. And the way you know that is in the past, he has tweeted the exact length of his penis to someone who criticized him in a joke. I forgot about that. Okay. So remember some guy tweeted a book titled sex lives of animals without backbones. And he said, Holy cow, they made the all in pod into a book. I don't know. And Chamath finds this and he says, hope that book is 7.25 inches. Otherwise fake news. Someone responded criticizing him being like, I bet it's smaller. And then he said, I'll bet your entire net worth X 10. The Anaconda is the worst kept secret of Silicon Valley. So male tweeted that. So, uh, you know, you can make fun of him for measuring his penis, uh, and then sharing it with everyone. Certainly measuring his penis to the 0.25. What do you, what do you, what are you trying to do there? I mean, I guess he wants to really, you're not rounded down in that situation. Come on. You know what he's doing there? Very well, very believable too, that he's thinking he's like, okay, well, if I put the 0.25 in there, they'll know that it's a, that it's an actual measurement. Imagine going home to Emily and she's like, honey, what'd you do at work today? And you show her like, I had this weird tweet and it went like super viral. Like people were like, what is this D bag? And I'm like, oh, that's, yeah, that's great inflation. Uh, final thing, John, it's been a scary week of news, uh, about artificial intelligence and you know, our doom. Uh, so we deserve to laugh about it too. This clip comes to us from one of our favorite Instagram accounts, uh, husk.IRL. Let's watch. Hey, what AI model am I talking to right now? GPT-6. And that's like the smartest one ever? Yeah, pretty much as smart as it gets right now. Okay. So you would know how to spell 17. S-E-V-E-N-T-E-E-N. How many E's is that? Three. No, it's four. I said three E's and it's three. No, it's four. It's still three. S-E, that's one. V-E, that's two. N-T-E, that's three. E-E, that's ten. It's still three. That's three E's. You just can't, you can't just count the fourth E and say that's still three E's. I counted the third E. There were three. No, there's four. There's four E's. Nope. Why does, why can't it count letter, like, why? Does anyone understand this? I have no idea. Uh, just a couple observations. One. Uh. It would be very fitting for that dumbass robot to cause human extinction, right? Couldn't do, couldn't count the E's, but could destroy the world. Also, I liked that the voice got a little bit snippy. It got pissy, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it got pissy at the end there. Yeah, if there are killer. I didn't know it could do that. I didn't know it could get pissy at you either. I mean, I guess maybe because we're clod users and it's always like so solicitous, but not really anywhere. Um, I don't know if there are killer robots. I don't understand the technology. No one really does, but, uh, if there are killer robots, that kid is going to die early. He's going down. Because I got husk.irl, a hilarious Instagram account that just has video after video of him fucking with usually chat GPT in just the funniest way as possible. And I wonder if the other chat voices, because chat gives you like 10 different voices to choose from and they're supposed to be like a, there's like a sunny one that's supposed to be like a lady's voice that's all like happy. I wonder, I wonder if she would get pissed too. I, I do need to figure out a way for clod to not be so positive all the time because like sometimes I ask it for things and it tells me it's a great idea. And then I'm like, it's just not a, it's not a good idea. Actually, it's a bad idea. I was totally wrong about it. You're like, uh, I'm going to walk out into traffic. Uh, what do you, what do you think about that? Absolutely. Would love that. It's a great way to get around. Like what, what are we doing here? There's only one F in traffic. I just, you know, I hope we could get a little handle on this. Um, it'd be nice. Well, I think the all in, I think the besties have it figured out. Yeah. It's just a, it's a big op. It's all regulatory capture. Hey, just stop, stop. And if the cat's out of the bag, then invent something else that puts the cat back in the bag. JD Vance later in that episode, and she saw this was like, got asked about AI data centers and he just tried to blame it all on Democrats for not building enough power generation earlier on. Yeah, on the grid in blue states. He tried to do the abundance argument. I was like, I don't know. People don't really like these data centers in like Texas either. So yeah, that's not the, it's not really a blue state. Once again, it's JD Vance. It's like too cute by half flailing, flailing asshole. Uh, all right. That's it for us today. Thank you for watching this episode of pod. Save America here on YouTube. Please subscribe. We'll talk to you soon. Thank you.

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. Critics argue that companies like Meta and OpenAI are building AI without sufficient oversight, risking loss of control and catastrophic outcomes.
  2. There is widespread public concern about AI regulation, with polling showing Americans want stronger government oversight despite corporate claims of self-regulation.
  3. J.D. Vance’s AI policy is widely criticized as lacking substance, relying on vague arguments about energy infrastructure and blaming Democrats for past underinvestment.
  4. The administration’s foreign policy, particularly the Iran war, faces strong public backlash due to rising costs, lack of clear objectives, and declining trust in official messaging.
  5. Voter polling shows Democrats leading across key issues, except AI, where there is confusion and lack of defined positions from both parties.
  6. The podcast highlights a general distrust of tech leaders and political figures who prioritize entrepreneurship over accountability.
  7. Humorous and satirical segments underscore the public’s frustration with AI’s apparent flaws and corporate overreach.
  8. The growing disconnect between political rhetoric and real-world outcomes—such as war escalation and inflation—deepens public skepticism of current leadership.

Summary:

The transcript critiques the administration’s approach to artificial intelligence and foreign policy, highlighting significant public skepticism. Critics argue that major tech companies build AI with little oversight, risking uncontrollable outcomes, while simultaneously claiming to support regulation—only to undermine it through behind-the-scenes actions. Public polling indicates strong demand for AI regulation, yet no clear policy framework exists.

D. Vance’s AI policy is dismissed as poorly reasoned, relying on misleading arguments about energy infrastructure and political blame. His handling of the Iran war is also widely condemned, with polling showing declining public trust, rising costs, and no tangible benefits.

Voters remain largely skeptical, with Democrats leading on most issues except AI, where confusion and lack of clarity prevail. The segment uses humor and satire to underscore the disconnect between corporate narratives and public concerns, framing the current era as one of unchecked technological ambition and political inaction. Overall, the commentary suggests a growing crisis of confidence in both corporate and governmental responses to AI and foreign policy.

FAQs

The main concern is that major corporations are building AI systems too rapidly and losing control of them, potentially leading to dangerous or uncontrollable outcomes.

Meta claims to support regulation, but internal data suggests they prioritize profits over safety. OpenAI pays lip service to regulation while funding groups that oppose it.

Polling shows that Americans overwhelmingly support regulating AI, with many expressing concern about safety and ethical risks.

Vance claims the U.S. could achieve its objectives through continued diplomacy, but polling shows most Americans believe the war has worsened inflation and increased costs of living.

The poll shows Democrats leading on most issues, with only AI being a point of uncertainty, while Republicans are seen as lacking trust on key topics like national security and immigration.

His response is criticized for lacking concrete achievements, as key objectives like closing vital straits have been achieved, but public opinion remains skeptical and negative.

Chat with AI

Loading...

Pro features

Go deeper with this episode

Unlock creator-grade tools that turn any transcript into show notes and subtitle files.