JAY SLATER Disappearance Linked To Disturbing CRIMINAL Network!
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The disappearance of 19-year-old Jay Slater in Tenerife has sparked controversy due to his criminal past and the circumstances surrounding his vanishing. Jay, previously involved in a brutal gang attack, arrived in Tenerife for a music festival and was last seen leaving a nightclub with two older men, including Aob Kasim, a convicted drug dealer. Instead of returning to a rented Airbnb, Jay chose to walk 25 miles through treacherous terrain, telling friends he could not go back and was scared. His phone died after he shared his location, and a friend reported he had cut his leg on a cactus. The police released Kasim and the other man without further questioning, despite Kasim's criminal background, leading to accusations of poor police work and potential corruption. Jay's friend Lucy gave a TV interview hiding her face, and another friend provided a casual, smiling statement, which observers found suspicious. A theory emerged that Jay stole a valuable watch, which could have led to retaliation from its owner. Additionally, Kasim posted an Instagram photo with hand gestures covering ears, eyes, and mouth, interpreted as "hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil," with the caption "plus one," hinting at Jay's presence. The case remains unresolved, with many questioning the police's handling and the motives of those involved.
We were seeing this young cheeky chapie looking lad innocent face. You would never have thought you would have been involved in anything sinister at all, but as always with the internet, they loved to do something in and pretty quickly came out that he'd previously been involved in something quite brutal. Jay was part of an eight strong gang who split the skull of Tom Hilton after he was attacked with machetes, golf clubs and an axe. His skull was exposed as well as wounds to his shoulders, his legs. He was only 17 when this happened this kid. An incote that gang were described as a pack of wolves, which this lad had a run for his life from basically. So immediately public sympathy took a fucking nose dive. And everyone was saying, look, he must have did something. If this is what he was capable of at an even younger age, then what is he doing out there? Well, the official story initially was that he was just an apprentice, Brickley, I went to a music festival with his mate, going to do a bunch of raves, have a good time. We've got footage of him here in a nightclub, getting off his tits, probably having the time of his life. So the story goes, Jay is a Papa Gale nightclub on the 60th, which was a few days after he arrived. And he was with two men. We know this because his friend Lucy, seen him with two men and gave an interview at a later date. He apparently left the club around five with these two men. They rented a Seattle on a higher car, and they were headed back to a rental property that they had hired for the night. Jay then posed to such up images from the rental property at around 7.30 a.m. So we know he was there. 30 minutes later, at around eight o'clock, he was spotted at a bus stop by a woman called Ophelia Hernandez, who told him that the bus wasn't due until 10 o'clock. So he's going to have to wait a couple of hours. Jay then apparently made the decision that fuck this, I'm going to walk it all the way back to my lodgings, which were 25 miles away. Now, if you've been raving all night and you've got an Airbnb close by that you've just been chilling in with your mates, you don't want to walk 25 miles, which would be 10 hour walk, ever no chance that you want to do that. The only reason you would do that is if you feel like you have to. Even then, you'd rather wait for a fucking bus. What was it about hanging around that area that he absolutely did not want to do? Now, we have some final phone calls that were made to Jay that have been confirmed by the authorities to have definitely been made. So this is fact. Three friends spoke the way him while he was making this walk. Now, information received by the investigator suggests that he was scared to go back to the Airbnb and said that he could not go back. So, naturally, it doesn't take a fucking genius to think that the two dudes he was with he did not feel comfortable around. Or that someone was arriving at that location and he didn't want to be there to be around when they got there. Something was wrong. Because going back to that Airbnb, whether it was to charge your phone because his phone was on low battery, get a drink of water, get some food in here and call a taxi, there was so many reasons that he should have gone back there and yet he chose not to. And he chose to walk. This makes no logical sense at all. So not only does that not make sense, but the fact is he doesn't even stay on the main roads. He goes off road in what would be considered pretty treacherous terrain, like a nightmare to get through. Someone's even suggested ironically that you'd need a machete to cut through some of this. It's that bad. And before he's phone dies, he is able to pinpoint his location to his friends. So we've got some good evidence there in that we know although he wasn't in a good situation by the sounds of it and he was off road, we know within five to 10 meters, at this point you were here, you were alive before your battery died. Now one of the last people he spoke to was a friend called Lucy who actually went out there with she'd apparently heard from him on the phone that he'd cut his leg on a cactus, he was struggling and he was thirsty and he didn't know what to do. But let's take a little look at the interview. How are you feeling about the way things are? You know, it's 72 hours since you spoke to Jay. Well, it's actually even been longer than 72 hours. Now it was 72 hours at half eight this morning. The first time I watched this let me tell you, I was okay with the interview starting off with the back of her head, I assumed they were gonna cut the different angles. No, that's the whole interview. It's the back of her head. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but if you're appealing on your friends whereabouts and they're missing, you are told as a witness, as a person who can help, you have to tug at the heartstrings of the public. And one of the ways you can do that is by showing emotion, showing you care, expressing how you feel about this person. It's very hard to do that when you're not showing your fucking face. Why is this girl hiding her face? Why do you not want anyone to see what you look like? Big red flag. And immediately you're thinking, you know more than you're letting on. You're involved in something that you don't want people to know about immediately. And unfortunately she didn't even say anything of interest in that interview anyway. It was just complaining that the authorities weren't doing enough. She could have said so much more to help with this case in my opinion. And then 11 days later, even more bizarrely, another one of his friends who spoke to him in the final moments before his battery died comes out and gives his statement. You think, where the fuck have you been mate? We did that person for three days. We do one day in the festival. I had retired roughing them morning. He was waking up fresh, he's going to do it all again. Just everything we've done like that, he's just been, I can't explain him, he's just different. He's excited, he's got a zest for it. He wants to go in. This guy chewing his chewing gum with a smile on his face without a care in the world straight up weird, start off. And I'm not reading too much into this before, oh is it this? No, that's just weird. If I was missing, and one of my mates was just like, what a guy, yeah he's funny, like it would be bizarre, be bizarre wouldn't it? Come on. Enjoy every moment to the food. Yeah, he does, he does that. He did that anyway. So you were actually-- Whoa, hard cut, hard cut. You can't fool me. This morning, your editing is, it's got to get better. Let's check this out again. He does, and he does that. He did that anyway. So you were actually-- He did that anyway, if what? If he's dead. What do you know me? If he is dead, why are you smiling? It's weird. This, like I understand that death or the thought of death can do funny things to people. And not everyone can almost digest it in a way that they can actually behave in a way that shows sorrow. Like some people feel uncomfortable nervous, and they may have a little awkward laugh about them. I don't know. But personally, they say it the way you behave when your mate's gone missing and could be dead. So you said that you could see his feet, and he was actually sliding down the hill. Like you could hear the rope. Yeah, that's how a new way went off the road, because you could daylight. If you want when you walk and gravel, whatever it is, you can-- You know what I mean? Nobody's saying why. And there is no way that this young man goes in this weird direction, which is definitely going to cause him many, many issues in this open terrain. Surely the question came up. Why are you doing that? Why are you going down there? What are you running from? What's the problem? Nothing. Not even saying a thing. Is it because they can't? Are they also involved? Were you concerned at that point? Not at the time, nor because we were off laughing about what I think. He said, look what I am. I was just coming out of a festival myself. A little bit of that does make a little bit of sense, their young idiots, their young kids. They don't know what the fuck they're playing at. Maybe you're may ending up in a dodgy situation could be a bit of a funny thing at that age. But he didn't seem concerned on the phone. Until we knew how far away we were. That's a pretty location on. He said, and I would, and that 50 minute drive or a 40-hour walk, I don't know if it's accurate or not. So I said to him, "Mill, it's only a 50 minute drive." And it's actually, "And what do you hope might be the outcome?" Then he comes on. Someone brings him on, he's found somewhere. He says, "I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if to feel about anything. It's been an abinion now. We've been missing for what 10 or 11 days. And every day I'm in my mind just going blank. I don't know what to say anymore. Obviously, I've been told to come on and pray and he comes on every night." I think he knows more than he's looking on, without the lack of eye contact, the constant blinking, the constant looking away. I think he knows a little bit more. And look, I'm no body language expert, but he's all demeanor and the lack of information and the lack of context he's providing, it's just strange. So a day after Jay had gone missing, the search began to try and locate him and his mother and father arrived in the country the same day. If someone does have Jay, what would your message be to him? He's just letting go. Just letting go. It's been three days. I've somebody taking him as a panic, where I might have been in his spirits, they've been to an event. I just thought I need to go get back down to civilise it. But there is people up there, why is nobody seen? There's two of us up there. It's a crime. It's a high of activity at 8 AM in the car. You can't go to the seat where we could be. Just lying there somewhere. I can't bear it. I've just dreamt to do it. So Jay's mother was quite heavily criticised for saying that she didn't have the strength to go and look for her boy in case he was laying there and basically she didn't want to find him. I mean, I don't remember in home alone, the mother going, yeah, just leave him. Well, enjoy the holiday. It's fine. No, you'd have thought she would have been more proactive and more desperate to do whatever it takes, no matter what happened to a little boy because the urge to find your kid should override your lack of strength to be enabled to deal with whatever you're going to find. He should be the priority, not you worrying about how you're going to cope. So I do understand the criticism of what she said equally. Nah, nah, nah you do go and look for him, don't you? Everyone's different, but yeah, you would. You'd lose your life if you had to look for your own kid. Like, are you just a wood? So yeah, I do understand people are triggered by that. But equally, it's not her who's done this, is it? First holiday abroad. Savi, you know, looking so forward to this event. 3D DJs from everywhere, absolutely buzzing about it. 3Ds, 3Ds.
into the NRG festival and this has happened. I will love it and they will go in and say, "You'll love it, you'll come back, you'll want to go again, you'll want to go to all these other different events everywhere." Now we just wish I had an encouragement to go to this endome, go to dinnering. You know what this brings to me is just like how you raise your children is so vital because when you do send them off into the big wide world on their first holiday ever. You hope that you've taught them enough about how to look after themselves that this sort of thing doesn't happen. I'm not saying she is to blame because she is not the one who's done something to him necessarily but if he was involved in criminal activity that led him to his demise that is partly about how you bring your child up. And if you turn a blind eye the kid being a wronging at 30 and 40 and 50 and eventually he's 19 going to dinnering for and he's been a little lost all this time it does feel like the fact that only two years ago he was caught up in a machete attack. He isn't that much of a shock. "Somebody somewhere must have helped some of that mountain." "Somebody must be like a living hell." "He's living hell." "You don't want to." Unless you go into the week and explore you can't understand what I'm saying. I appreciate that this man is emotional, upset, hurt, frustrated and he just wants him found but the reality is the idea that he's going to be found alive now is highly unlikely man. This has been a long time they say 48 hours as the window is well-passed that. Now the police in Tenerife have had a lot of criticism and rightly so because it seems like an absolute fucking shit show if I'm being honest. They were offered help by Lancashire police and they declined it as if to say we've got this meanwhile they let the two guys who will last to be known to be with J. Slater go almost immediately claiming they are not in any way relevant to this case. Now I've seen a fair few fucking crime documentaries and usually the last people that will whisk the guy are the ones who either did it or no who did do it but apparently that's fine. Get yourselves away. Don't worry about it. And this decision becomes even more mind-boggling when you realise that one of the guys called Aob Kasim was sentenced to nine years in jail for masturbating a sophisticated drug dealing operation to flood whales with class A drugs. And this isn't a kid. He's a 31 year old man. Now what is a 31 year old man with a background in drug dealing doing hanging around with 19 year old kids in nightclubs. Now what's it happens Kasim ran a legal weed cuff in Tenerife and our mate of mine happens to frequent this area quarter of the year every year and he knows Tenerife inside out. Now he told me that these weed cuffs generally speak and not specific to this one but when you go in there yeah you've got your legal weed but you've also then got the option to get your real drugs. They're saying just legal weed alone. An in Tenerife you'll be approached by locals with drugs yes but you'll also be approached by young English kids just like J Slater with all the class A drugs that you want. That happens regularly. Now let's think about this. Do we think these 19 year old kids are taking suitcases full of gear all over the Tenerife with them running that kind of risk or are they getting it from someone who's already based in Tenerife. Logically they're based in Tenerife and they're giving it to these English kids to fucking sell. Now it's entirely possible that 19 year old J's friendship with this 31 year old J's are goes beyond them having the same taste in music and maybe it's a working relationship and maybe J is getting his gear off this guy and maybe that's also the reason that Lucy didn't want to show her face on camera because maybe she might be getting it off of him as well. Now Kasim mysteriously booked the Airbnb under another name. Who knows why you wouldn't want his real name down there. You be the judge who knows but he did say when asked by the Daily Mail what happened to Jay that the kid came alive and left alive. Who said anything about being dead? Why even mention the fact that he might not be alive. I don't know. Strange thing to bring up but okay. Now what this does tell us is that Jay didn't leave Papa Gail and I club in the early hours of the morning with a bunch of lads his own age or maybe going to see some girls or whatever normal things that lads do at that age but instead he left it with a man a lot older than him with an experienced background in the drug trade and for some reason went missing not long after that and yet the police didn't keep those two dudes for questioning and let them go. They're not even in tenorief anymore. They've gone oh that is astonishingly poor police work. It makes you wonder why police connections to the drug trade in tenorief are they getting a bit of foot and backhanders. Who knows but it stinks and a few days after Jay had gone missing this guy's a cacim is pictured here on an Instagram post around the area where Jay went missing and as you can see is there were two other lads one of them looking quite young so again he's pictured again with young lads and there's some theories about what is going on in this photograph and I'm not really trying to go down too hard on the conspiracy theory thing but I think it is quite interesting that they'd even have you know the cheek to sort of post a picture that looks like he's smiling. I mean you know a lot you know just went missing and the whole world is interested in what you're up through right now and instead of keeping a low profile or maybe showing a little bit of sadness for the fact that some kid may be dead out there he's smiling in this photo for a start that's a bit bizarre. Now one of the theories is that he's covering his ears here his mate is covering his eyes and his other mate is covering his mouth so it's like here no evil say no evil speak no evil you know one of those cryptic things about you know waiting for them saying nothing about this kid. Another person suggested you know what can't hear what can't see and what can't breathe a dead guy and interestingly the caption is plus one meaning there's someone else here with us. Now I don't know if that's true but the plus one thing alone bit weird that is a weird Instagram post to be putting out when people are looking into you for the disappearance a potential death of a young lad in internarif and that's the story developed a new theory about a stolen watch arose because Jay apparently had stolen someone's watch the night he went missing. This kid is a fucking wrong man isn't he I mean I want him to be found I don't wish any harm on the kid but fuck me mate you're not out there yourself the idea that he just got lost or he doesn't sound right does it now so he put a Snapchat out saying yeah cause ended up getting thrown out me and two Marley kids just took an A.P. of someone on the way to a cell if a 10 quit so him and the two dudes in question took the watch now we've all seen enough movies to know that when a group of people steal something not everyone gets to keep it sometimes the one who could fuck you up keeps the watch and you just help them get it and watches like this are worth thousands of pounds right he said he wants to sell it for 10 it'd be worth a lot more now the watch wasn't reported stolen and looked sometimes that's actually a bad thing because that means the dude who lost the watch doesn't intend to use the police to get it back if you know what I mean he's planning on getting his own dudes on it in which case you motherfucker will get dealt with so it might not be that the guy see he stole it with double crossed him and then it got rid of him it may be that the person who lost the watch also wanted to get him there's too many people with motives that's the worrying thing right now this kid had been in tenorief three days or something and there's some CCTV footage that people think might be related to this and my mate who knows this area very well says this footage is definitely 100% taken from the area that these people were staying in we can't verify whether it was them there what time it was taken but we know it's the area now someone has annotated this and said that one person is J1 person so we see we don't know if this is true but we'll watch it anyway now that could be a lot of things that could not be related to J and Lucy and these people at all or it could be that J was trying to sell the watch and someone stabbed him or that he was going to give the watch back and someone stabbed him it could be all sorts of things but I do think it's important to include it at this time now we investigate unknown as Mark Williams Thomas from the UK has gone out there and he's been involved in other investigations such as I think Madeline McCann's disappearance etc so he's got a lot of experience and he got his hands around the situation and went look I want to speak to these two dudes the last people to say him and if I don't hear from them I'm going to reveal their identity and that has brought them out the woodwork and he's managed to have a conversation with them are you provided me with his account of what he says happened on that morning Monday the 17th of June he says he was on the strip J wanted to carry on partying and he said he had nowhere to stay so he said he could come back to his they say in the car they played music and chat it before stopping to get a drink he had nowhere to stay I'm sure he had somewhere to stay it weird okay at a cafe at a shop just prior to entering the mountains he says he was driving his friend was in the passenger seat and Jay was in the back to say on the rival at the rental his friend opened the door went into the left and went straight to sleep Jay walked in behind followed by him and when gone inside they went upstairs and I you then said to Jay so far as yours he's a towel he's a blanket have a shower if you want Jay asked for a cigarette and I you've said I've got some camel cigarettes and put one on the side Jay then asked for a phone charger and he said go into my friend's room he's asleep take his charger and you can put your phone
on charge. This man, Aob, seems very hospitable, a very nice person. I'll give you a lift of mine, I'll look after you, give you a blanket, give you a towel, have a shower, help yourself, make yourself at home. He seems like a great friend to me on a holiday, and yet won't come forward, give his story even though you were the last person to see him. You won't do a TV interview at all. It would be weird, such a great guy. Surely you should want to do a bit of help instead of hiding away and not showing a face. I used to say that he then goes to sleep and he's woken by a buzzer. Aob says he comes down the stairs, Jay says to him what's that annoying noise, which was the doorbell. Aob says he opens the door and speaks to a woman and a man, and they gesture that he needed to move his car. Aob says he gets into his car and he's starting to move it, and he looks in the review mirror and he sees Jay talking to a woman. He's got his trainers on, so he's about to leave. Interestingly, he was distracted by talking to this couple and then at the exact same time Jay is looking to leave. Was that Jay taking his opportunity while this guy was busy moving his car to get the fuck out of it? Because he's saying, oh, I see them talking to a woman afterwards. He's been following this case just like at Wehave. He knows Jay talked to a woman. He may be connecting those dots and he might not even see Jay talking to this woman. Jay might have done a runner. Jay then says to Aob, you're having moved the car, the woman says I can get a bus every 10 minutes, and Aob says he says to make just chill out, I'll drop you off in town when I wake up properly. He went, nah, nah, nah, nah, I'm hungry. I need to get a scram and the woman told me I can get a bus every 10 minutes to lost Christianis. Aob says he replies, there's no bus coming. This is my green door. If you need me, he says he shut the door. Jay walks away and he goes back to sleep. He then says he gets a call from a friend of Jay's who says that he's in a ditch somewhere and he's been cut by a cactus. Which friend knew this guy and how did they have a previous relationship? All of these are key questions that we should be getting the answers to here. We're getting tiny bits of information, but the real interesting stuff that can actually help us pieces us together in coming forward. The evidence still strongly supports that Jay left the A, B, B suddenly, walked for 30 minutes before wandering off-road where at 08 to 49 at 08.50 on the Monday he dropped a location pin. Again, like you're on a session till the early hours of the morning, right? I was young once. When you've been up all night partying, the last thing you want to do is get up and fucking eight o'clock in the morning and do a hike. You want to sleep all fucking day. None of that makes sense. However, as part of this investigation, we have sought to identify and speak with as many people that Jay had contact with whilst in Tenerife. The result of this digging has opened up an established criminal network with links to drugs, violent crime and theft. This case has basically stuck it on them without saying it and gone. They're involved in crime, whether that be drug trade, which you'd expect it to be unstealing because we already know Jay has been taken fucking watches for people. They seen an innocent, he just got lost situation. That is obvious now. Appreciate that at this stage, I cannot expand any further on what we now know. Okay, so he's not able to tell us the full ship, but we can piece it together a little bit. So what was the most like the outcome for Jay Slater? Well, let me know in the comments, you know, what your theories are because I'm fascinated to read these. But for me, this kid was hanging around with stone face criminals who've done time for proper drug dealing operations and now admitted by his owner at Snapchat that they'd robbed a very expensive watch of a geezer that night. His friend Lucy doesn't want to show her face for a reason. This group of people were probably up to no good, whether it was a drug dealing operation gone wrong or that Jay had been moving a lot of coke and he'd, you know, lost a load of it, which people have suggested before and that was why he was punished or that it was a case of wear taking that watch and you've got to go. Whatever the case, in every single crime documentary I've ever seen, the last person on record to have been with the guy who disappeared had a hand in it. Now, if this man did not himself kill Jay, he knows what happened It was either him or he knows who did it.
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
Jay Slater, a 19-year-old with a prior violent criminal record, disappeared in Tenerife after a night out, having been part of a brutal gang attack years earlier.
He left a nightclub with two older men, including a convicted drug dealer, and later chose to walk 25 miles back to his lodging instead of waiting for a bus, suggesting he felt unsafe.
His final phone calls indicated he was scared and off-road, with a friend reporting he cut his leg on a cactus.
The police released the two men quickly, despite one having a drug trafficking conviction, sparking criticism of the investigation.
A friend, Lucy, gave a TV interview hiding her face, and another friend gave a seemingly casual statement, raising suspicions about their involvement.
A theory emerged that Jay stole a valuable watch, potentially leading to retaliation from its owner.
A suspicious Instagram post by one of the men, showing hand gestures covering ears, eyes, and mouth, fueled conspiracy theories about Jay's fate.
Summary:
The disappearance of 19-year-old Jay Slater in Tenerife has sparked controversy due to his criminal past and the circumstances surrounding his vanishing. Jay, previously involved in a brutal gang attack, arrived in Tenerife for a music festival and was last seen leaving a nightclub with two older men, including Aob Kasim, a convicted drug dealer. Instead of returning to a rented Airbnb, Jay chose to walk 25 miles through treacherous terrain, telling friends he could not go back and was scared.
His phone died after he shared his location, and a friend reported he had cut his leg on a cactus. The police released Kasim and the other man without further questioning, despite Kasim's criminal background, leading to accusations of poor police work and potential corruption. Jay's friend Lucy gave a TV interview hiding her face, and another friend provided a casual, smiling statement, which observers found suspicious.
A theory emerged that Jay stole a valuable watch, which could have led to retaliation from its owner. Additionally, Kasim posted an Instagram photo with hand gestures covering ears, eyes, and mouth, interpreted as "hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil," with the caption "plus one," hinting at Jay's presence. The case remains unresolved, with many questioning the police's handling and the motives of those involved.
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Jay Slater is a 19-year-old who was previously part of an eight-strong gang that violently attacked Tom Hilton with machetes, golf clubs, and an axe, splitting his skull. This history made public sympathy for him decline sharply.
Jay left a nightclub called Papa Gayle around 5 AM with two older men, rented a car, and went to a rental property. He posted images from there at 7:30 AM, then was seen at a bus stop at 8 AM before deciding to walk 25 miles back to his lodgings instead of waiting for the bus.
Jay was scared to go back to the Airbnb and told friends he could not return, suggesting he felt uncomfortable with the two men he was with or feared someone arriving there. Walking such a distance off-road indicates he felt he had to leave.
One of the men, Aob Kasim, is a 31-year-old with a nine-year jail sentence for drug dealing. He booked the Airbnb under another name and left Tenerife soon after Jay's disappearance. Police let them go without questioning, which many find suspicious.
Lucy was a friend who spoke to Jay before his phone died and gave an interview hiding her face, which is unusual for an appeal. She complained about police inaction but provided little helpful information, raising red flags about her possible involvement.
Jay allegedly stole a valuable watch from someone the night he went missing. The theory suggests the owner may have sought revenge through his own associates, as the watch wasn't reported to police, indicating a potential motive for harm.
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