Jay Jurden Is a Proud Hater | 73

How are you feeling today as the, let me say this, resident Swifty? Let me keep my shades on. It's a tough time to be a Swifty. Yeah, let me hit that cigarette. I wish I had a vape. I don't. You don't need a vape. Oh, my God. I know. I wouldn't. So, the life of a showgirl came out. Just baseline, love her or hate her? Hate her. Okay. You? I'm in the middle. Really? Yeah. I think it's as good as it is bad. Sure. I think it's hard to feel deeply passionate about other Taylor Swift albums and feel so much of nothing with this one. Yeah. Did you have any favorite tracks? Yeah. Okay. This is going to be controversial, but I'm willing to say it anyway. I love Father Figure. I like Actually Romantic. Yeah. And I'm going to say Ruin the Friendship is really an all, like a classic Taylor Swift song. Yeah. Very, very. Very good. For sure. I like the production on Opalite. It's just the lyrics that are just like too corny for me. And also like the chorus sounds kind of corny. It sounds very like Target commercial to me. Something that will play in like a mall journeys where you buy school shoes, if that means anything to you. Also, I'm going to say Honey is also just like- Okay. So, a lot of these tracks are taking it for you? No, no. I'm saying, no, I don't like Opalite. And I don't like Honey. Yeah, that's a bad thing. I've never been in a journeys, I think. Oh, well. Sorry. Too busy and limited too. Wealth. Just kidding. She got money. Honey, I think is undermined by the songwriting because it is just so corny to be like, oh, like you called me honey when they said my skirt was too ugly or what. I'm like, what? Okay. Get a grip. But okay. What about you? Okay. So, I'm here for Fate of Ophelia. I think it's a solid opening track. What do you think about the dancing? I didn't, I don't, not now. I'm already dealing with so many deaths, okay? I can't get there yet. I, in real, I kind of like wood. I kind of like wood. Well, the production wood is great. It's just like everything about it. I mean, the lyrics are fucking crazy, but the beat goes crazy too. Yeah. The beat goes crazy too. If I were Max Byrne, I'd be upset. How did I hand you this good of a song and this is what you put on top of it? I'm a little pissed. But the lyrics are kind of, unfortunately, like I was imagining Travis Kelsey. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was listening to it, being like, oh, bro, that's why you're, we fuck, dapping up his brother. Like, unfortunately, that tickles me a little bit. But you know what? All the, I liked- Fanny Flutters. Yuck. Okay. This is a- This is your girl, by the way. This is your girl, by the way. This is a family podcast. Just mind you that. Okay? This is your friend we're talking about. I don't know who. I don't know who. I don't go to this school. I don't know where the lockers are. Why are your sunglasses of shame on too? Yeah. You said, I like. Talk, Valentina. Okay. So, I actually, I like Actually Romantic. Yeah. But I think all of the discourse around it needs to go right to who? Eldest Daughter, sitting right there. Eldest Daughter held a gun to my head the whole song. I would rather take 100, what is that, Shake It Off music videos and 20 bullets than listen to that song over and over again. It is the craziest track I have ever heard. Yeah. I could only really stand listening to it a few times. I think Eldest Daughter very clearly wants to be a Joe song. Yeah. Eldest Daughter is begging to audition for Folklore and she gets turned away at the door every single time. And that's the truth, if we're being honest. The shittiest fake ID, I know. Well, you know how I feel? What? Joe Alwyn is the muse of the moment, still, crown untouched. But I think it's kind of unfair that people are like, she can only write songs when she's heartbroken because many of the songs about Joe are not about heartbreak. Hello, Invisible String. Hello, Dress. Hello, Call What You Want. You know how I feel about Dress. Hello, Dress. Dress is a song for fucking? Dress is, well, I mean, for sure, but Dress is a song about lesbianism. Oh, interesting. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Huh. Like that? And the thing, too, is that, like, I don't think all the Travis songs are bad. I think the Travis songs on this album are not very good. Yeah. Because on Tortured Poets, The Alchemist and So High School, or The Alchemy and So High School were such good songs about Travis. And it's like, so, I don't know. I mean, as I said in the newsletter review, HunterHarris.substack.com. Uh, Dress makes wood look like a calculator spelled out boobies. For certain. But I think the thing that I have to hold space for this horrendous, in my opinion, album, I'm really trying. I'm holding space for Taylor Swift fucking, okay? She's getting her back blown, and it shows. When you have crazy dick or crazy strap, you do some stupid shit. I'll tell you that. I'll tell you that firsthand. My parents are going to kill me. Our parents can't listen to that shit. Yeah. And they know better by now. But, like, she's clearly getting dicked down so good that she's like, I don't even care. Like it or not. Like, this is my man. He is laying it down. And I guess, I mean, I wonder if, I wonder if Joe was hitting it right, too. But maybe that's for another podcast. Um, another time. False guy. Did you have a song about hips? They look like they dry hump. Taylor Swift and Joe Allman look like all they do is dry hump. But see, you're always saying that because you've never seen Joe Allman in person. Because I will tell you, he does not photograph well. But in person, that's man. You said, he lays the pipe. Take it from me. Not too much. That's a man, actually. That's a man with a deep voice. Oh, I mean, OK. I'm going to say something kind of real for a minute. We went to a Lorde concert. And I was at that concert. I almost didn't go. And I loved, it made me listen to the new album with totally new ears. I love the new album. I didn't realize how good it was. And then there was a moment where she said very loudly, very clearly, lights to match it, free Palestine. And it made me think, like, it's actually so, not made me think for the first time, but it's so easy to say anything. And it's feeling quite difficult in this moment to come off of, you know, that Lorde moment, that Lorde album, you know, and her taking her music off of, I think, streaming platforms in Israel. And then Hayley Williams' new album. And Hayley Williams, it's so good. If you're not listening to, what is it called? Ego Death at a Bachelorette Party. It's a fucking fantastic album. And I know Taylor Swift is at a different level than them, but in terms of, like, fame, of course. But I think. I think, like, watching so many people that I stan say, speak up, do anything, say the right thing. It's like, it's at this point, like, I'm so fucking tired. Obviously, that goes to not just Taylor Swift, but it's kind of hard to watch her write about Dick and just be the most quiet woman in America, which is always what she's done. But. Well, I mean, I think just, I think everything you're saying is what really bothers me about Canceled as a song. Oh, my God. Yes. I'm like, what are you talking about? You're singing about. Oh, I love. I love my friends. Canceled in the underworld, draped in Gucci. And it's like, people are literally losing their jobs, losing their careers, losing, you know, friendships, all this stuff, because they won't either sufficiently mourn the death of a white supremacist or sufficiently support a genocide. So, Canceled, I'm like, I get that, like, you know, she couldn't control the news. She could put all this. But I'm like, it's in such bad taste to me to release that song now. And then also to not explicitly say, I support Blake Lively or I support, like, you know, like, whatever. And I, you know, and the fact that it's even open to interpretation, whether it's, like, about Blake Lively or about Brittany Mahomes for being a trumpet, is also, like, okay. That sucks. Like, yeah. That sucks. It's very, put it up. It is. Put it up. Yeah. Loser behavior. I don't know. But then again, that is sort of why I think extra romantic, by contrast, does work for me, because it is her actually saying something, actually saying, okay, you're going to take a shot. Well, I'm going to take a shot back. Yeah. Because I don't think that's punching down. I don't think so either. She has a right to respond. And I'd rather it happen in the studio than get on Twitter fingers or get a, playing more victim stuff. Yeah. I don't want to see that. If I like her embracing the real vigilante shit, the real bad girl, like, okay, I'm going to make fun of you too. And do you think Charli XCX should, might, will clap back? I think she should. And I think she will. And do you think she'll win? She's already, something is better. She already won. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And also the remix too. I'm still listening to Brat. I listen to literally the Brat remix album. We kind of. Truly once a week. Are you thinking of giving Brat right now? Anyway. Let me say this is Brat. This week. Did you just go see the movie? No. Okay. I'm an adult. I would say. No, I know. You're upstate. Yeah. Yeah. That's the only reason. No, I didn't go see the movie, but wait, you didn't understand my hilarious text about doing my morning pages. No, about my artist date. Wait, what'd you say? What? I don't know if I just say it on there. Okay. DM me. It is funny. DM me, send me $20. I'll tell you what you said. Well, no, you're not seeing that movie in theaters because I. What would you call it? Have a life. Have a brain, have a heart. Yeah. Graduated college. Yeah. Yeah. Well, this week we are talking about Eric Adams dropping out of the New York City mayoral race. Thank God. And we are joined by the comedian Jay Jordan to talk about rap beef and just honestly a lot of other stuff. Oh my God. Bisexuality, um, straighteners, hair straighteners, Payton's a little wicked socks. If you want to see them, they are very, I would say, or no, not alpha, but what it was the sister. The sister. The sister. Payton's socks are white and black stripes. So if a house falls on her, you know what, what cost it. Um, so let me just say this. Let me say this. Are you looking for a home for your worst dependents? Are you a hater first, but a lover of pop culture second? Consider this a glorified group chat, but we're not calling you out. No, no, no, no, no. We're calling you in. It's a safe space to talk shit. But of course, from Wondery, I'm Payton Diggs. And I'm Hunter Harris. And this is Let Me Say This. Let me say this. Let me say this. ♪♪ we have so much to talk about our cup runneth over and who do we have to talk about it with the comedian and actor and writer jay jordan yeah journalist today and i'm actually hearing uh x barb x barb i'm coming out as an x barb i was once in the church of nikki i have been excommunicated because i have what a little bit of common sense this woman she has done so much good for for queer people for black women for sissies for anyone who likes to rap like this but sissy representation actually exactly but do you understand how many people have injured their vertebrae rapping to nikki but now she wants to act like this she wants to act like this this week and guess what and for what for taylor swift to take the attention away in four days to say sex yes you know anyway so yeah i it broke my heart and i say this i say this as a person who loves nikki minaj it broke my heart when did you give her up when did you put her down okay not put her down okay so when her cousin's testicles up that was that was you know that was hard for me um i even stood by the i got a republican doctor he made my ass great again maga i stood by that because a little oozy verse on that was she really was giving us great stuff and every now and then i think she gives us something amazing and then you know something terrible is coming for sure for sure the foreshadow yes i think that the jay-z stuff is like the most difficult because okay okay i'll say this jay-z in a pink wig ai kind of funny no kind of funny was not funny is she thinks that he's this mastermind who's manipulating well yes i mean that's the part in this whole war of words between her and cardi b i'm like wait hold on so what do you mean jay-z tried to sabotage your tour by having juice world killed on your birthday yeah and then that's just math that's his basic math but but then you also have to take into account this is all because of motorsport like i don't like this is all because of me this is all because of quavo and offset who don't who aren't even friends right now they don't even like each other they these cousins slash uncles in some weird kind of you know barry gordy situation these wait the you know lmfao yeah yeah yeah that's like a nephew uncle brother cousin situation these men beefing and these women be it's crazy yeah i'm screaming and we haven't even gotten to are you a lover or a hater we're already in it there's tears okay no but now i want to know are you a lover or hater oh i'm a hater i'm a hater because as a comedian you have to walk around with a pebble in your shoe too many comics are being nice too many comics are being friends to get along to get along what happens is if you're a comedian right now you go oh let me make sure i say everyone's funny so i can still do shows at that one studio i'm not going to do shows at that in austin i don't give a i don't give a fear factor wasn't that great he's not good at stand up you want me to be nice to tony hinchcliffe why you want me to be robin's robin he ain't even batman that's the dumbest shit i've ever heard in my motherfucking life i jay have you ever been a lover or did you come out the womb of hater no i've been a lover i have been a lover what turn what okay so no as a comedian being a lover is only fun until you kind of saturate the audience with love you'll say oh i love this and you say something oh i love this but in comedy you want a little conflict you want a little friction you want uh you want something to push against so i don't think that love fest and comedy works unless you kind of subvert it so you have to love something that's terrible okay right like every now and then when somebody cheats i go yeah yeah keep doing it keep cheating a little bit what's wrong with y'all yeah what's wrong with y'all yeah okay hey without cheaters y'all might not have me shout out to my daddy i we picked up what you were putting down wait oh do you have a favorite cheater of all time i have a favorite cheater of all time i mean hall of fame princess diana we we go oh oh so the greats we're talking about some of the greats i mean we're talking about i mean we have we have her we listen this is the way that means okay safe space i'm trying to think who's my favorite cheater of all time okay well i don't know okay go go go usher and jermaine dupree specifically jermaine if jermaine dupree doesn't cheat on janet we don't get uh we don't get confessions yeah whoa that is true so i i love janet i love janet you know she's she's iconic she's a princess without janet we don't get britney but jermaine dupree had to cheat on her so that we could get confessions i will say confessions made us kind of skip right past the tragedy of cheating because that was still an era where like we were holding celebrities to the fire of like you know tiger woods cheating it was like kill him yeah and like usher we were like well this is a hit like we just moved right we were repeating the cheating as teenagers we were like wait no put it on everything put it on everything if you made my cheating into an anthem i'd kill myself yeah like okay i'm going straight to the knife you get cheat on you're like god this is good and usher sang that so passionately we were like oh usher cheated on chili no little did we know it was not it was proxy it was a proxy war a proxy i'm not getting into that i'm not getting into that proxy war you mean when jt stands up for nick anyway okay wait who's your favorite cheater of all time i don't know i'm really trying to think you can go literature um i know you like books and stuff oh i feel like you you when you said that like you kind of sat up a little bit of like i love like yes i don't i'm literally trying to empower the first cheater that comes to mind is billy crudup okay who cheated on okay what's her name oh my mary louise parker when she was pregnant with her child with clara danes who was like 22 23 let me tell you something when somebody loves the morning show they love the morning show you know i do you and my mother are locked in billy crudup was right there i was like oh yeah billy crudup i know i'm sorry the first man to ever like his career to ever like falter because he cheated on his wife like that i also say ethan hawke i'm a legendary cheater yeah and guess what he still got that dog you saw him tell his son to move when he sat next to rihanna he said hey look what get up yeah we got some grown folks business to discuss me and riri we got work to do yeah we got work for work to do i'm gonna say ben affleck too oh he loves to cheat did jayla ever cheat in runs the block no she didn't loyal leo okay yep yeah what can i say i mean i love the tension but won't cheat that's a leo but i mean i think since we are talking a little bit about cheating right now i think that cheating as long as there's enough artistic distance it should be celebrated and it should be used in storytelling more without a puritanical super kind of boring group of people on twitter and threads being like that's a bad person yeah it's a book yeah it's a movie it's a tv show of course that's a bad person yeah did you watch it yeah you watch it you better watch yeah yeah yeah it's called the summer i turned pretty all right you all love it it's not called the summer i turned boring it's dp summer that's like what oh my goodness so back to the book i don't even know where to take it from here um well are you a lover hater um of it's about to be a what girl fight oh it's about to be a what i love brooke valentine um i don't like pitting women against each other but as a queer man it is some of the best entertainment we have it i mean who wwe but also andy cohen is lining his pockets we're making y'all heffa's fight that's it all he does he go he's go he goes hey hey did you hear what she said that's wild samantha from north carolina yeah you're a dumb slut trixie from rhode island says why are the cameras hd they look terrible x barb okay ever um bardi gang uh uh yeah i like i like cardi b because cardi b does represent what i finally needed to see which was an ascent from love and hip-hop to someone who was actually a star yeah because like there were a bunch of joe budden was famous before love and hip-hop so there were a bunch of people who were famous before love and hip-hop but to me she's the most kind of beautiful example of someone who after uh you know the mona scott stockholm experiment she um she became a superstar she became a global superstar yeah and just because she had it she had an she had it in the um confessionals she was very funny but i was like oh she can rap too okay yeah and sometimes you you Yeah, she got help writing some of the raps, but she can rap. Yeah, yeah. She also has personality. she's a natural entertainer and that is i think that is what threatens nikki the most is that cardi just says funny stuff all the time and it's also very online and like i don't think that she has to be threatened that's my argument well of course there's enough space it's the megan argument all over again yeah i don't like i don't like that there can only be one i don't like the highlander of female rap well for those listening who may not be caught up to speed who may not be chronically online or mentally ill i'll say people who have a job yeah yeah anyone that works a nine to five is like the fuck are they talking about can you give us a quick like tldr on where we are with cardi b and nikki minaj okay where to begin so this all starts with cardi b releasing the album am i am i the drama am i the drama and then nikki keeps bringing up like oh this album is cheap it's not selling cardi responds and says well you're like comparing yourself to me meanwhile you debuted 10 years ago you need to compare yourself to me you need to compare yourself to like other people who debuted 10 years ago like rihanna like taylor but your numbers don't ever line up to there so you always come to punch down on me nikki reads that and then talks about cardi being pregnant like calling her everything but a child of god her baby everything but a child of god and then it kind of veers into cardi talking about her long running war with jay-z and rock nation yeah because she said that they always block her that like jay-z will take beats from her and get them to beyonce she's like uh rocking she's like a realist she's like a realist she's like a realist she's like a realist she's like a realist she's like a realist she's like a realist organization like it's like very mobbish and then she says jay-z take off your fucking lace front which okay i'm saying i find me beyonce funny funny funny funny funny but also i i'm not convinced it's on a lace front like i i think i think she might have had a point there jay-z addressed the claims yeah when he was like which boss yeah do i want right right they're lined up in his closet i can just see it then okay sorry i'm i'm pulling out the the holy text so then they start talking about each other's children yeah they start talking about each other's children they do start talking about each other's children in a way that i was not ready for well it gets deep because i guess this day that they were going back and forth was uh or sorry nicky's son's birthday it was papa bear's birthday and so cardi says here you go starting nice and early and you say sick pathetic loser ass demonic insane bitch um you've been talking about me since i was pregnant you've been jealous of my child nicky says that cardi's child has two-story gums and then and then the staff is laughing these are funny things cardi responds you said you're gonna kick my child's gums back didn't you say you was in ny the past week where the fuck you at because it ain't gonna be the day that i go to jail mind you mind you cardi is very pregnant right now yeah i mean so pregnant when she told gail king she was pregnant the baby was like yeah i mean and then also she just got out of court and had been hiding the pregnancy while she was in court not effectively no everyone knew she was like rolling out of the car um then okay i'll just speed around through this uh nicky apologizes to culture cardi's daughter for talking badly about her cardi respond but it's like a backhanded kind of apology where she's like one day you'll be beautiful which is crazy to say to a child and it was very much and it was it was very much well i'm sorry that's your parent type of apology yes yes yes yes yes yes and then cardi says dear papa perk i'm sorry that your this is like so good i have to say it all i'm sorry that your mommy hasn't cut your birthday cake for the past three days because she can't take my success or happiness one day you're gonna grow up and i hope you understand when a girl says no it means no and you can overcome the pedophilia blood you inherited from your grandfather father and uncle oh please don't hate me when you grow up because your mommy would rather give me more attention than she gives you hopefully when someone that really cares about her puts her in rehab and gets her the help she needs she can come out and read you a book oh my god and then one more thing later later cardi says always want to fake dear black women because cardi or nicky had said something like you know you're always going for black women you're not really black um cardi says girl shut the fuck up done beef with every black woman in the industry like girl who the fuck beefs with sizza yeah yeah and you throw slick shots at beyonce the most um okay yeah the only person who beefs the only person who beefs with sizza is the truth uh and any man that she's fucking any man but here's the thing any man she's fucking but then a couple years later she's like i'll do a feature for drake it is a very sizza sizza is like me she's like man i hate that bitch hi girl hi babe but i love that about you know we used to talk oh my god so inconsistent i love it about her yeah i i mean this was it was a lowdown dirty disgusting fight it was a hardcore match if we're gonna apply wwe terms i did not like it but i did enjoy parts of it yeah yeah it does not need to happen again but i'm glad i'm glad we got the witness i do have an end here and i i will say i miss celebrities being online like that i miss going back and forth yeah i used to be on twitter she's being logged on good luck booking that stage you speak i love booking that stage you speak i mean kendall was it kendall who tweeted like uh i hope you play this one song and rana says well then don't come yeah first to say it before kamala actually i do not come yeah i mean i like a little i like getting a little chippy i like being a little i like being a little messy online only because it does make me realize that celebrities aren't always being controlled by their publicity sure yeah i say this yeah as a person who came here with a publicist sometimes they'd be like jay don't say the door opens i'm gonna say it i'm gonna say but i mean they're real people they have real emotions yeah yeah yeah yeah i love just like only like a little razzle dazzle of media training yeah yeah the full the full brief well they had skimming where's the thing they they kind of media training went out the way because they're like all these children have all these cognitive disabilities and i was like well okay we got here when back when cognitive disabilities and i was like well okay we got here when cognitive disabilities and i was like well okay we got here when cognitive disabilities and i was like well okay we got here when your son's favorite color is five i said yeah okay something's going on here yeah when you start calling babies non-verbal i think you should go non-verbal yeah no i i think that's i think that's true i think you're right yeah no i mean yeah no jesus christ um okay i do think though in some ways this kind of wraps around to how i feel about uh me no no charlie and taylor swift oh yes yes because i'm sorry but like charlie something's a knife i'm sorry but like charlie something's a knife does explicitly talk about taylor yeah and does it wrap around into like charlie's anxieties about her fame all that stuff totally but if i'm taylor swift i'm like if you want to say something say something like why why does it have to if we're going to settle this it should be settled in the studio it shouldn't be settled with like me back and forth no i wish i do i mean i actually like that talk but i wish it was a little bit more of the lord and charlie approach of like i wonder if there's a way that they can link and build more successfully um then just respond with what was the name of the track actually romantic actually romantic which i had fun with i don't know why yeah i also think it has to do with olivia but i don't want to wake that up careful listen they're gonna get me and they've got guns oh yeah no a little laser comes right i think i mean like the hardest part of this is that there is a level of like i feel a certain kind of way about your fame and i wrote a song about it and some of it is also you know a friend still being friends with maddie and so like that those two things i do think lita taylor being like oh she's kind of fake yeah but sadly i'm on charlie's side because charlie produces comedies and i do like to be cast so definitely on charlie so look to each yeah i'm not overcompensating for anything you said charlie i'm with her you charlie xcx i support women of color yeah i do i support women of color yeah she's a she's wc a woman of color and a woman of cocaine so i yeah yeah it's bisexual yeah isn't it crazy isn't it crazy how charlie loves things that are thin and white but she's mad at taylor swift yeah you look stupid as family podcast no no that's only when you're talking about something crazy oh when i talk about sex hunter gets mad oh wait what what sex thing makes hunter the most upset oh well i was specifically talking about what's don't cross your arms like that that was so like my mother yeah yeah yeah go ahead and say sorry yeah we got the dowager countess over here i didn't know you had a chaperone and i need one what made her i wish we got there yeah no no we were talking about how the the hunting wives made me like i masturbated to the hunting and then it was like sometimes you come and you deeply regret yeah yeah you had to go through it yeah yeah go through it to get to it to the other side and hunter was like cut her mind there there have been moments where i have jerked off and once i once i've completed the jerk off i go really i go really really jay jay you have jay you have a you have an mfa really really really you've done fouling three times and this this is who you are you work you work for john and this is the kind of shit that you were looking at? the daytime by the way that's window open right now that's when the sad jerks happen that is when you go no one can see this and you look windows open somebody neighbor yeah i'm sometimes it's hunter or god yeah yeah judging judging me sometimes i'm the naked neighbor my neighbor yeah i'm not gonna tell you where i live but if you do or if you're lucky enough to be my neighbor good chance you're gonna see it yeah you can see the outline of it on twitter but if you're my neighbor you're gonna see it in the living room and you're welcome yeah and you like do a little it's nice it's nice okay well speaking of john stewart we're gonna we're gonna make a little transition to late night okay yeah okay so we recently which is thriving it's doing all the best it's ever been of course um well one i actually just curious about your response to the whole jimmy kimmel oh i think it was the most kind of explicit government censorship we've seen in a very long time i think at the fcc chair at the fcc chair goes on a podcast hosted by some fucking faggot named benny johnson and says that you can do this the easy way the hard way and his dick is hard and then they take jimmy kimmel off the air indefinitely that night i think it's kind of a easy two plus two yeah censorship yeah that's my take some comedians took a very long time to have a little bit of common sense and see that but that's because not everyone took civics um but it was censorship it was the most naked bald face censorship i've seen in regards to media yeah yeah well when he's explicitly laying out like a path to how we can get jimmy kimmel off the air by talking to like sinclair and like the other carriers it's like well what else it's he's literally giving them the handbook yeah so i disliked it a lot yeah and then specifically jimmy fallon said that he plans to quote keep his head down and avoid politics on the tonight show jimmy says that but then he does like he'll he does the trump joke so i know that's like the line there are some people who their approach is they say the they say the company line and then they kind of subvert it some people say oh we're gonna be kind of resistance fighters so i think there are two methods because actually keeping your head down is just gut though yeah that's kind of that's my argument only because i do see a world where people like nbc does everything trump wants and i'm like well no because you watch snl they do not do what trump wants yeah so it is it's hard for me to believe that it's hard for me it's hard for me to believe that but i also do know for a fact that is like boilerplate that you are given yeah by the higher ups to like co-sign and be like okay yeah yeah because i mean listen as a person who's worked in late night uh sometimes big they'll be like oh we love it we're gonna cut it oh that's so that's so funny do it again yeah i mean well it kind of like bleeds back into what you opened with which is everyone's being too nice right now everyone's being so nice and i think that the niceties are fake i think that we're not we're calling them nice but to me it's duplicitous to me it is very two-faced and it's very scheming i never wanted to be in the industry where everyone was like how can i be best friends with someone to get opportunity i wanted to be in an interview where people were like oh that person's really good oh that person's so funny oh that person's really talented oh give them a shot i never wanted to be like oh that's so-and-so's best friend we should give them something that's just me yeah oh the little smile not everyone feels that way i'm like but if you want to be my bestie and give me a little something no i mean i don't i don't shy away from saying not controversial things for a comedian i don't i'm not crazy but so many people come up to me in green rooms at comedy shows and be like oh my gosh jay i'm so happy you said that i'll be like why are you whispering yeah i'll be like why are you you're like hold on it's actually just us just so you know that person don't like you either i am just saying i don't like them and they don't like me you are kind of being like i hope you like me i don't there's some people who's i really do not want some people's i don't want a lot of people to start vying for attention from people who aren't talented many oh my goodness yes yes that reminds me of patty labelle talking about american idol some of the people who are judging shouldn't even be judging hey one of my favorite quotes whitney houston said i listen oh yeah what is it i listen to singers i listen to singers i very rarely listen to someone who cannot sing really quickly what's your name i'm a taurus oh oh that's not also this is in texas because boo i went to old minson alabama but i'm a taurus i'm a taurus too yeah yeah i was gonna guess leo no no no no i like leo well the way you sat up in whitney houston the spirit of she sat she came to both of you at the same time i love my i love whitney houston so much there's a whitney houston slot machine that you can play now in a lot of casinos and i do think that's disrespectful because they are uh kind of trapping that lady on earth by doing that and when i posted i posted a tiktok about it everyone said pat houston you will pay so they knew who was responsible that's true two people who disrespected whitney's legacy the most pat houston ray j those two people i'm also gonna say bobby brown bobby okay yeah yeah goes without saying yeah but yeah we covered cheaters favorite cheater is whitney houston okay yeah oh wow wow wow you know my fat you know that clip on the show wait wait oh you you all freak you freak you know who else like you know who else is like that who what what nobody she's talking about like someone who wanted their nipples played with and so she said you know who else is like that and baba said who and she went oh nobody she looks she looks right at the camera too she's like oh wait and then and then and then she's like that's someone that i used to know it is so oh i know it is so funny yeah when he was getting her she was getting her looks back on bobby yeah oh and her looks maybe somewhere else too hey hey hey i'm bisexuals this is what i have to say oh i didn't mean the point because yeah because you you this is this is how peyton is bisexual no oh okay just a taste peyton you're bisexual the same way someone goes well well if you get something for the table i might i'm getting out of here take my mic this just got so because every other clip i see of this podcast is peyton being like that man next week that man next week as a lesbian that man i go okay what's up girl yeah but the man is like vin diesel or like yes yes it's like the least get you no no no have you seen old pictures of vin diesel i mean i would fuck him oh my see he uses like ai oh wait oh no i just told myself so it just happened there it is there it is i said this as you know as i want to i would argue i'm the second most famous black male bisexual comedian the first richard prior richard prior y'all know that he used to hook up with marlon brando and we only know that because quincy jones going to deathbed like girl let me tell you one last thing quincy jones said it was everybody was fucking everybody yeah you're good at being by though yeah yeah you do buy pride yeah yeah no not like that well yeah sorry i put the fifth down but yeah you do buy yeah like a dab yeah like a nice low by pride to me is basically being like i'm so happy i'm so happy to meet you to every person every person gets eye contact every person gets like a little bit of energy and you go oh is this a vibe maybe this isn't a vibe that's cool i think that some uh i think that some people don't like it bisexuals because they have to deal with the fact that they're going to receive intimate energy and eye contact from us a lot and that's a lot for some people to experience you know bisexuals much like vampires we do have to be invited in i understand i understand right that's the rule every vampire is by if you haven't watched true blood oh my god true blood true blood show i've ever seen oh my god true blood they have the rule they say true blood true blood true blood true blood for every two titties we gonna show a butt hbl said for every two titties we showing a butt even if don't make sense they go they went they went joe manginello transform you in the woods he's like again they go yeah again they put jason sackhouse yeah yeah oh my god get them octoroon cheeks out because you know you know remember he found out he was black no no okay so uh joe manginello joe manginello sure yeah yeah i'm saying right so joe manginello he always thought he was italian turns out i think he's like 116th or 1a because he did the whole you know the lie the mike torico lie the lie that's gonna empower too many italians though black people white people listen no i agree what is an italian but a north north north african what is an italian but a north north north african and i i i'll go even further okay if if you're from that one african island what's the african island seriously what's the island's last name tyson i'm telling you You got to put your kufi on. There's more M-O-O-R to that joke. If you open up your third eye and let the pineal gland be affected by your melanin sites, you would actually realize that those are our brothers and sisters. They lost their way. They found their way back home. That's what happened. I agree with you. Because when I see an Italian, you know what I think? Get back to singing and dancing. That's what I think. Get back to your roots. I know there's Italians everywhere now being like, yes! Exactly. If Italians aren't part black, what's going to happen when their hair get wet? They go, no. They dodge the water like Elphaba. Don't. Don't. It's private. You're like, DM me. I'll show you a picture of a crazy sock. Oh, my. Okay. I'm sorry. My chest is tight at the Elphaba. No, there were. Fuck you both, by the way. Yeah. There was a point where I did that. No good deed. No good deed. No good deed. I just, last week, I was on. Goes on the punished. Fiyero was a black man. Y'all know that? In the books. Fiyero. Elphaba is a woman of color. Okay? That color. Green. Emerald. You know, black people used to be green. See? They ain't teaching y'all. Oh, my God. Y'all. Sisters. Y'all a lot. And I'm here to help you. Y'all going to be like, Jay, don't you have a white husband? Shut up. I forgot that gospel. We are. Hey, hold up. Uh-uh. He's not here. He's locked out. Uh-uh. Don't bring it up. Oh, my God. They're going to get mad. Do you want to talk about Keith Urban and Nicole Kidman? No. Only because I don't have a flat iron. So, it's not. They asked me if I wanted to talk about Keith Urban and Nicole Kidman. And while I love. I love Australians. I think they are strong. Very interesting people with the pouches. I do. I do not own a flat iron. Okay? Keith Urban and Mary J. Blige share 27 pieces. They go to the same beautician. You know. You know. You know the Bills, Bills, Bills video? Yes. With Bethany's child and her salon. Yes. If you look closely, Keith Urban is in there. Getting his hair done. I'm sorry. We need to stop. That's true. We need to shut it down. But because y'all aren't. Y'all. Once again. I'm teaching y'all stuff. Let me say this. Can I say this? Oh, I'm going to get up. Listen, we've been having such a time. We're going to stay around. You're going to stick around. I'm going to stick around. They have trapped me. We have. The door is locked. Yeah, the door is locked. There's some healing in that. But you can hear it now, okay? I have to talk about Eric Adams. Yes. I am truly thrilled that he has dropped out of the mayoral race. Yes. Of course. He said, despite all that we've achieved, I cannot continue my re-election campaign because the campaign finance board's decision to withhold millions of dollars have undermined my ability to raise the funds needed for a serious campaign. And it makes me sad because as, I don't want to speak for everyone, but because this is a pro-Eric Adams podcast. I do want to say that all the money we've raised for that man, he really has done so much for the community, so much for earrings, so much for hookah, so much for big booty Latinas. So, so much emphasis on swagger. He's changed the way that we look at New York. I think that's true. Yeah. It's for zero bond as well. Yeah. I'm going to say low key, one of my favorite mayors of all time. The Biden of Brooklyn. I mean, come on. And he really was. No. Through and through. Oh my God. Yeah, but Hunter. He's the Hunter Biden of Brooklyn. I thought you were just like summoning Hunter. And then I was like, oh wait, the other Hunter. The other famous Hunter. No, no, no. Yeah. How's that feel? It feels great. We're both hot. We're both chaotic. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's all, no drug use in common. But your TikTok handle, isn't it? Hunter Biden? Of course it is. That's wonderful. Yeah. President's hot son. Of course. I love that. That's awesome. That's awesome. Awesome. I love that. I love your TikToks with your dog. Oh my God. No. Thank you. That dog is living better than a lot of y'all. Yes. Know that. Know that. Listen. If you know a black woman who has a dog, that dog is more tech. That dog has been to the doctor more than a lot of you men. I guarantee that dog been to the dentist more than a lot of niggas watching this shit. She does have IBS. She's an IBS warrior. So yeah. That's what I'm saying. She's not an IBS warrior. How you get a puppy with Crohn's? I thought you figured that out though. I thought you would handle her. No. IBS is a lifelong struggle. I thought you would know. Why do you think I would know? Because you always talk about being lactose intolerant. This is a digestive health podcast and you have not been paying attention to the way that people with IBS and Crohn's and lower inflammatory syndrome- I didn't realize representation mattered. I didn't know that. Well, let me tell you. It's not funny shit. Some of us are. Some of us are. It's real. It's real. It's real shit. The loose stool struggle. I'm back on the good stuff though. I started drinking regular milk again. Yeah. What's up? Thank you. Yeah. Fuck them cows. Hunter. Anyways. Yeah. I'm sorry. I can't talk about the milk thing. We love Eric Adams though. I mean, okay. Quotes. Favorite Eric Adams quotes. "If you're going to hang out with the boys at night, you've got to get up with the men in the morning." I wish I knew. So I think- If you're going to hang out with the boys at night, you have to get up with the men in the morning. And so when I saw Mayor Eric Adams on Fire Island, he said that exact same thing to me at the Afties. You're stupid as hell. Yeah. Oh my God. Wait. What was it? What is all the places that he's compared the Islamabad of. New York is the Islamabad of America. New York is the, he once said, Tel Aviv of America. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Like the Istanbul of America. The Istanbul of America. New York is the Istanbul of America. He said that actually deplaning. But what he says is, he says, I always say this. He goes, it's like I've always said. And by that, I mean, I'm taking money from both places. Equal opportunity. It is kind of the Mexico City of America, though. He did use that one. Well, Mexico City is like Brooklyn South-South. Like everyone flies south for the winter. Yeah, totally. But it's funny, but that hurts, y'all. I was just there. Oh, of course. Yeah, I love Mexico City. Yeah, I actually feel like I could sunset on you. Yeah, it's fun. I was there for a bachelor party. It was like, I want to say 19 boys in the house. Oh, of course. No, we had to call some of them. I mean, like. Yeah, how many did it end with? It started with 19. Six. Yeah. People voted off every night. First day, people did leave. First day, two couples said, I'm not going to stay here. And they left. So that was a bit of a job. Wow. Did you have to share a bed? I didn't have to share a bed. No, no, I didn't have to. No, no, no. I love when I put on one bachelor and I didn't have to share a bed and everyone else did. Ooh. Privileged. Because, no, because they know your ass would be like, no, that's not true. No, that's not true. No, no, no. Wait, was this like, were they chill or were they bumping coochies? Is that what you're having? No. No. It was just a really small bedroom. You gotta say no, like that don't be happening. No, I mean, I'm, yes. If I'm there, it's a different answer. No, I'm saying the straight community. I stand in solidarity with bumping purses. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No. No. No. Hunter only recently is coming around because he's like, oh, kind of Eric Adams. He's like, I think it's going to be good for politics to be like. I like this new Hunter. We've met two seconds ago. I like her. I like old Hunter. I really like new Slater. You're like homophobic Hunter. No, I'm not homophobic. How am I homophobic? The way you've looked at me. She's like, I'm not homophobic. Look at both of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm in a room with them. I'm breathing the same air as them. I only wash my hands a little after they touch me. No, she has to do like a box breath to be present with this, with this energy. Oh, Lord have mercy. Well, you know, also, I do stand up comedy. If anyone was wondering. Oh, I could tell. Oh, yeah. I just want to make sure that like, y'all didn't think I was just like a silly, silly man. Shut the fuck up. We were like, your vibe is cool. Get on over here. No, you actually, I think the first time we met, I literally, was it Irish show maybe? Yeah, Irish show. Yeah. And I was like, oh, I'm, I'm so scared and so nervous. You're the funniest person I know. And her dad is a comedian. So that means a lot. That's private. First, the socks. Now my father. It's not private. It's not private. Everything's specific to me. But truly, like, you have such a quick wit. You're so good at clearing a bitch too. It's really fabulous to watch and to participate in. Thank you. That means a lot. And you're hot. And you're hot. We need more hot videos. Thank you. Oh, my God. Because like, that is the order. I want to be extremely talented. Yeah. One A, hot one B. Absolutely. And then somewhere down the list, they'd be like, sometimes he's nice to certain people. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. - And he might mean it, we'll see. - No, no. thank you so much we are so excited for your tour and maybe upcoming special well the tour is called nothing special because it's nothing special and maybe there's also something else coming later this fall okay it's offline maybe perhaps per chance where can people follow you you can follow me at all social media just at jay jordan j-a-y-j-u-r-d-e-n it is just my name no spaces and you know i say crazy stuff i post a lot of speedo pictures if you don't like bulge it's not for you he said come for me being complete being funny stay for me being hot it's just not for you some people be like i didn't know i was signing up for this and i'll be like okay pay me i don't know what you want me to say i'm so mad i typed this with my dick i bet you did i see the typos yeah i know you did yeah well thank you so much jay for coming out and for saying yeah i do need a vape i do i need i need a few vapes oh my god i need a cigar actually give me that good stuff that is it for this week we covered a lot of ground here today i've said too much yeah as usual we are too online so you don't have to be let me say this is hosted by me hunter harris and me peyton dicks follow us on socials at let me see this pod at peyton dicks and at hunter h let me say this is a production of wondery production services by dcp entertainment for dcp the producer is ryan ronkma and the executive producers are adele coleman and elissa british our theme song is by scott velasquez for wondery our managing producer is taylor sniffen nick ryan is our senior managing producer our producer is kate young our senior producer is brian taylor white the executive producers are aaron rafflerity and marshall louis hi i'm nicole phelps global fashion news and features director at vogue and co-host of the run-through podcast each week on the show our listeners get an all-access pass into the world of vogue on tuesdays join us for the next episode of the run-through podcast and we'll see you next time on the run-through with vogue on tuesdays join me as i interview influential designers like calvin klein rachel scott and simone belotti on thursdays join chloe mal head of editorial content at vogue us and choma nadi british vogue's head of editorial content as they explore fashion through the lens of culture with guests like doja cat and margot robbie listen and watch the run-through with vogue wherever you get your podcasts and vogue's youtube channel