Jared West on Making $500,000 at Age 17, Side Hustles & Crypto Losses!

I think I went up to making about 10 grand a month and that overnight basically just got banned. - So hang on, what age were you making tonight? - I'm sorry, sorry, I was 15. Honestly, if I'm being completely honest, I was a little bit relieved. - How much money have you made from your video with two million views? - 30,000. - You're right. - Wow. I think in that month alone, I made like 40 to 50,000. - Oh really? (upbeat music) - Duff looks in the open. (laughing) It's been a long time since I think I did like a few online ones, like a minute ago, but it's been a while since I've done a podcast. - It's nice you're doing a minute flex, anyway. - No, definitely is. - Get in there. - Hi guys, welcome back to the Striker Big Podcast. Today we're joined with Jared West, who made over $500,000 by the age of 17. - And I reckon he's well on his way to making a million before his 20. That's for sure. So welcome to the podcast. - Thank you. It's a pleasure being on here, obviously. - So making that kind of money 17 years old, and probably before that as well. I think you made a video the year before making 100,000 by 16. - Right, yeah. - What's that like? I kind of imagine making that much money when you're in your teens. - Yeah, it's kind of weird. And I think a lot of it, it just feels like numbers on a screen, obviously, because I feel like, for me at least I live for the most part below my means. I don't really like my car, for example, is like, I think one to two grand. Like it's not, I don't buy Lamborghini, is there anything like that? It feels the rule of being on a podcast, even having eyeballs on me. I'm like, well, I just feel, I just do YouTube, you know what I mean? That's just something I like to do. - So how did you start out then? Because, you know, to make that sort of money before you're 16, let alone them out of 17, you must have been working at school. - Yeah, so I think, so I think since primary school, I've always kind of had this idea of wanting to be a YouTuber, I think that every kid does. I think likewise to you, the production company, stuff, sort of stuff, right? - Yeah, I used to do YouTube. I think I had 16,000 subscribers back in the day. So not enough to make the kind of money you're making. - Well, but it just humble beginning obviously. - So I started out just doing a normal YouTube channel when I was maybe 10 and I was just doing these kind of like Minecraft videos, you know, I have my PC fan. It was all terrible videos as always. I think in year seven, so when I was around 12, that's when I really kind of started to take YouTube seriously. And I remember there was some kid in my year and he had more subscribers than my old channel. My old channel had 50 subscribers. I remember he had a hundred, and I don't know, I guess I got compared to somebody that because I was like, I am going to get more subscribers than this kid, never told anybody. I don't even know, he doesn't do YouTube anymore. But yeah, and from there, it kind of just launched a passion. And I just kept making videos. It was gaming at first. And then over time, I just gradually kept leveling up my skills. Essentially, obviously, we're skipping over a lot. I'm sure we're going to cover it in detail in this podcast, but kind of leads me to where I am now. - So what is overnight success for you? - Oh, no. Of course, it's never overnight success. - Is it not? - No. I mean, so I've probably worked for like three years, making YouTube videos weekly, getting like a hundred views of video. I didn't get accepted for monetization until I was two years into it. So I was working for free, like for most of it. It was mainly just a passion, which is quite common with people who start doing YouTube from what I've heard. - So would you differ in in school versus how you are on the videos? Because when I used to do YouTube, people were like, oh, he's like a completely different character because it's more of that extraverted version of yourself. - Did you feel the same? - No, 100%. Definitely. I was very into the room in school, even when I was doing well, it's like even year 12, so I went to college, so it would have been year 12. I was, it's almost something I regret in a sense because I was very reclusive socially, and I kind of wish I was more out there, but I was just so focused on like doing school, getting that side of things done, because I wasn't like school until I hated it. And I was just getting home and just doing my YouTube stuff and the stuff that I liked and could focus on. - Did your teachers ever tell you to stop YouTube and focus more on work? - Sort of, I think. (laughs) So see, I know I want to kind of play the card of like, oh man, like I came from like a bad place and everybody was telling me to quit 'cause it wasn't like that, but maybe this is my kind of like eager to school sense of myself, but I was kind of an arrogant kid and I was like, okay, I don't need school. Like I'm never gonna use anything from school 'cause I just, there was almost like a part of me where I can't do the school route. Like I could never focus in school. I could never, it was just never something. I felt like my brain was wired to do. So I was always like, okay, I'm gonna make it outside of school. So a few teachers were like, you should focus on school. Especially when GCSEs were coming out, they were like, yeah, you shouldn't do as much of this YouTube stuff. I don't think anybody out right was like, stop doing YouTube. - Did they ever show your videos at the front of the class with the project? (laughs) - Yeah. - Especially when I didn't get that many views. I had like 300 subscribers and it was always, it's always the same kid, you know, it's like Christmas parade comes on like, the teachers are like, I'll put stuff on the TV and of course they always play the worst videos as well. - Yeah, exactly. (laughs) - Obviously you started or got to the point where you needed to make money. So how did you go about that? - So it was kind of weird. So I think I got to an age of around 14, 14 where I kind of remember having this distinct realization of like the cost of living is so ridiculously inflated. Like I remember kind of asking kind of my parents and just kind of getting a general gauge of how much things cost. And you know, the average wage is give or take maybe like, let's say two grand a month for example. And that's decent, at least coming out of college. And that, I remember just being like, okay, you give 50% to tax for example. You do all of this stuff and you're left over a few hundred pounds and houses are like half a million like that doesn't, I was like, I kind of got scared at that moment. I was like, oh good, like I need to make money otherwise. I don't know, I don't want to be left behind in a sense. I don't want to have no freedom and time and be kind of on this rat race. I kind of learned that early. So I was like, okay, I got to start developing skills and trying to make money and just watching videos and. - That's a major advantage, really. - So I was in that early and obviously having parents that can actually discuss that with you. - He's great. So I'm assuming that was a great help. - No, it was. So I guess for context, so kind of my parents, at least my dad at least, he was, I think he started out doing kind of like music stuff. So he was kind of more in the creative space of things. And he did pretty well for himself. He was a songwriter. But eventually, you know, you got to pay the bill somehow. So he started doing kind of like removal van businesses and he kind of just, he did a bit of Amazon FBA as well. When that was hot kind of like four years ago, it still is to an extent. So he's always been in the kind of like entrepreneur space of things and I think that, possibly, I'd be lying if I said it didn't probably inspire and kind of like ingrained into me the fact that you can make money yourself. - What was the turning point when, like you saw YouTube as his passion? - Yeah. - And then business. Like when did it switch? And did you maintain the passion when it did switch? Because there's studies that say, when someone gets paid for doing something they love, they lose the love in that thing. - Yeah, this is a tough one. I think yes and no. So like if I lose passion for something when it turns to business, I would say the moment it turned into a business. So I don't know how much you know. So when I was about 15, I did more of this kind of like, so I was always experimenting with channels because I think my thing was I just wanted to get views I wanted to get attention because I'd spent so long not getting that. And then I had this almost like keyword which was the kind of like the free row boxing, which is a game on row blocks. And I basically did that as a joke and it started getting views. And I kind of just almost, I milked that to an extent and I just kept making videos on that. And although they were clickbait, I tried to make sure, 'cause like a lot of people I know were kind of these kind of sketchy guys doing gray area things where they would, for example, lead their viewers onto sites and kind of make them waste of the time. I wasn't about that. I was just about trying to get views and trying to provide kind of at least somewhat of value even though titles were slightly misleading and I've kind of passed that. I don't, that's kind of a part of myself that I've kind of learned. Like okay, that wasn't a good idea because it ended up not doing too well anyway. - So when you say lead them on to sites to make them not do stuff, what do you mean by that? - So there was this kind of like culture in this kind of like area of YouTube where it was like, there were these websites, I'm sure you know, I'm like where you can watch ads and you get paid a percentage of money. Those kind of sites, but they wouldn't pay a percentage of money and they just make you waste your time spending ads. And I was never about that. - Yeah, like that card, yeah. - Yeah, like that kind of stuff. I was never really about that. I would mainly get my money from ad revenue, but I would also kind of promote the sites that did actually work. It was something I did as a 15 year old kid when I was kind of still in the mindset of like, oh my god, I'm scared I have to make money now. So I don't get almost like left behind. I walk a job that I don't want to work. And I think when I was, I think April 2020, that kind of whole thing came crumbling down. And that I think I went up to making around 10 ground a month and that overnight basically just got banned. - So what age were you making today? - I'm sorry, sorry, I was 15, 15. - 15, yes. - Wow. But first we'd like to say thank you to our sponsor, public.com. Dad, 100 years ago when you started investing, what steps did you take to become a better investor? Well, I used to take tips from the local meat market. If only you had public.com back then. Public is an investing platform that not only gives you the information and tools you need to make smarter investments. They also have a built in optional social feature, filled with analysts and notable investors to share their thoughts and help you be a better investor. Well, that sounds good, but I'm more into index funds than individual stocks. I thought you might say that. 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I built this channel around a niche, and I was trying to make just content that would work, like evergreen gaming content that just didn't work. So when it got suspended, I was like, okay, finally, I can put my time, and energy into something that actually matters. And I'd gained so much experience and skills, just especially with kind of negotiation skills and just editing and making videos and funnels and titles, that I was confident that I could hopefully do it again. Obviously there's always that thing in the back of your mind, but I tried to stay optimistic, generally, man. - So what stopped you pivoting before you were forced to? Was it just comfortable that you were earning that money and you felt like you couldn't stop? - Yeah, sort of. So it was like, I tried to transition it into a more kind of just like obviously gaming channel. But the views weren't there. You post a video under the performance straightaway and people wanted the secret answer to get this kind of like free robux thing. And it was, yeah, it was like, it almost was weird talking about this 'cause it was so light. It was like two years ago from now and it was kind of this very weird phase, especially when I was doing all my kind of GCC stuff. And I was so pressured by school and I had all of this kind of pressure of the whole GCC's and get a job. And I was just so fixated on getting money so I didn't have to go down that route. Like I don't know if you guys are similar as entrepreneurs, but it's kind of like the nine to five. Although it's kind of funny 'cause it has this, it has an idea online like a nine to five is something terrible and in reality it's not. But for some reason I just had this vision or I have to work myself. And I think I was in that mindset. - Well, I think you come from a bit of a hustle family from what you've said. - Yeah. - So have you tried any other side hustles along the road? - Side, side, out. - Along the road. Along that was a cross between route and road. - Everyone in the room. - Yeah. - I have. So especially when I started doing my job at West channel. So as soon as that channel got banned, I think I was 15 this must have been kind of early as 2020. I started doing the whole, 'cause I used to watch the Hezza, right? I used to, that was like the guide watch the most. So I was doing Instagram, feed pages stuff, I even tried drop shipping. If I'm being list, I was really bad at it. I feel like drop shipping is one of those things. I think you have to have a good experience and it's all about the product and marketing. I was terrible at it. So honestly, I consider myself, I've gotten very good at one thing which is kind of YouTube and audiences and kind of figuring out what they like. And I've just really kind of doubled down into that. And if I ever want to get into something like e-commerce, I'll find a way to bridge the two. 'Cause I'm, I don't know, I'm always under the impression on my phone, believe it that if you focus on one thing and sticks that thing and get really good at it, you can bridge out of that one thing eventually. And I just think it's a better, I just like focusing on one thing. I just think it's a better route instead of like switching one side hustle to free. You've got to find one that I think you really like and stick to it for like a five to 10 year period. And that's where you see the kind of big gains I suppose. So I'm assuming one of the ones you didn't like was product photography. Oh. Oh my goodness. Yeah, I'm sure you did your research. Yeah, no, I hate, I think that was one of the things. So, but share the lessons of the hate because I think that's the thing to come out of here is the lessons from it. Definitely. So I started doing like fiber side gigs. I think when this was before the whole free road work thing. So before that whole thing, I was making 60 pounds, I think was the withdrawal. I was making that every like couple months. I wasn't making any money. And I went to fiber because I wanted to do free lunching stuff. I think I was around 14. And I first started doing video editing and I was getting paid maybe like $2 an hour because I wanted to sell myself really cheap. So I could build my portfolio, get reviews. And then that eventually led into like product photography. So I think I saw like some YouTuber online and he was like, oh, I made X amount doing like product photography. I think it was like Peter McKinnon. I saw he used to do that. And he's kind of this filmmaker guy. He does that sort of stuff. So I was like, okay, cool. Let me do that. And it started paying a good amount of money. Like I was charging I think $200 to do Amazon product photography. So I specialized into Amazon. I would take about seven pictures. But yeah. For some of them, you were just nickin' for Males Square, right? So that was my that. That was my original portfolio on Fiverr. So I had, I was a dumb 14 year old. I had no images. And I was like, where I'm just like, I don't have any example work. I thought that was so cool to be honest. So smart. Unbelievable. I get to make it. I guess so. I was kind of an idiot. But I was like, okay, these photos look good. And I feel like I could do something like that. Because this is pretty good with the camera. I think I had invested all my like birthday monies into a camera which I think it was an 80D honestly. So it was a decent camera. That's what I'm really doing. All of his money. Yeah, just the camera. We're currently running. We're all bought by Curtis when he was younger up and coming. So. Yeah. So I'd invested that into a camera and I just started using that. And that basically invested it onto this business. But doing the actual product photography, I don't know what it was about yet. But it was about like how I'd have to take a photo. And then I didn't actually have a proper set. So I would use like a bit of paper. I would blue tack it to the side of my window. And then I would get these like $40 like Amazon lights. And I would just shine it upon it and like try and take photos. And some of them turn out okay, especially with some Photoshop. I didn't actually have Photoshop. So I choose my editing software. But I don't know. So I'm about doing that and having to do all the revisions. I was just like, okay, I never want to work for somebody else again. And that was the no on the coffin. Oh, nice. The great thing though, you've learned lessons along the way with that, haven't you? Yeah. I kind of learned that, okay, this is not for me. Like freelancing is something I don't want to do. Which I suppose leads me on to a lot of college stuff. So I guess we're kind of moving kind of forward here. But so when I was 16, I'm sure in UK, if people don't know, you can go to college early. So I went to college to almost like a pretty prestigious school as well for like film and media production. And I ended up actually dropping out a year later at 17 to kind of do focus on YouTube full time. But while there was, I felt like there was a big emphasis on the kind of like whole freelancing side of things. And I had already done that when I was younger. So I was like, I really don't want to do this. And that was kind of one of the leading factors to why I decided to kind of cut it. Because I felt like they were focusing on that. And I was like, I really don't want to do this. I feel like I can't do it. And how much would you already learn about filmmaking before you went? Had you learned too much? I think so. Honestly, when I went there, I don't want to mean any district school because the school is amazing. I met so many great people there, example, for example. But yeah, I remember going there thinking this would have been great for me when I was like 1415. But I felt like just from doing YouTube stuff. And I had made some, I probably made, before I went to that school, I probably made like 500 to 600 videos, edited them, scripted all of this stuff. So I kind of got there and was like, I already know to use the camera. I already know to use all of these editing softwares. I wasn't gaining much value from it at all. So school hasn't adapted, isn't it? But everyone's watching YouTube now. They're learning about these things soon. I was the same as you. I knew the thing before they were actually teaching them. So it would have been so much better if they did it when you were 14. For sure. I think, I don't know. I'm kind of a believer in like, if you actually want to learn something, you can go and learn it online. I think you can learn it. You're on pace there. And I think the best way to learn something, especially for me at least, is doing it. I don't like the whole writing. I was never a writing guy. I'm very bad at writing. I honestly think as the days go past, I'm like, I think I'm generally like mildly dyslexic because I spell things all the wrong. I'm really bad at grammar stuff. So I never, we're both the same. I always say mildly dyslexic. And he says, I just think you're a bra or you are. So I'm heavily dyslexic. I do. And dad must be very heavily. But he sounds nice, you say mildly. I guess you don't have to put the D cap on and all that stuff. But I don't know if you've discussed this on the podcast, but I'd like to ask question, how are you both in school? Obviously, if you're really answering the question. We didn't go together. Oh, I really asked. I couldn't have guessed it. Years apart. But we had completely different schooling. I went to normal primary comprehensive, much like yourself. And I think a lot of entrepreneurs hate school. Yeah, they just, I think hate is actually a strong word. I didn't hate school. I just thought it was a waste of my time. 50, 60% of the time that I spent there was a waste. And I just couldn't wait to get out. I got out 16 and I could not wait to put my mark on the world or whatever I was going to do. So that was school for me. And I was always disappointed once I learned about finance and money and the way of the world. Because I believe you learn a lot more when you leave school than you do at school. A lot more in a much more condensed period as well. If you actually force yourself to, though, and some people aren't open to that. Yeah, but I enjoy learning. You know, that's the thing that's so much to take in. And the more you learn, the more you know, you don't know. So you want to learn even more. And it's quite a great thing really. But that's what drives us, both of us, doesn't it, to push a bit of financial awareness in schools because it only take, I don't know, I'm repeating myself guys, but it only take half an hour per week for the last year of your schooling. And you would be so much more set for this world, so much more. But maybe they don't want you to be potentially. I honestly, as I'm growing up, I'm kind of realizing that more. Like I think schools are designed in such a way that I think primarily it's kind of weird, but I'm onto the mindset of like it's almost like to take the kids away from the parents. The parents can actually work and provide for the family almost. I think that is especially early schooling, obviously, they're teaching a lot of stuff, but that is almost what they're doing. I don't know. Like I think it would be to an extent, but I think in school, especially when you're kind of at public school, there's such a difference of think people who actually want to learn stuff and don't. I think even if you're providing good value, there's always going to be somebody in the class that's kind of holding it down. And that's why I just think online and learning by yourself and learning at your own pace is just so much more efficient. Yeah. I was always more passionate about my side hustles like YouTube and also like I got a scholarship to go to a private school for swimming. So I had like swimming in sports and also this YouTube that I had to eventually choose between the two. And I went with YouTube and media production and that's led me here. So everything I learned that was value was what I did in my spare time. Yeah. But for sure, what is, I've heard you obviously did the whole swimming thing. I got a few questions. How was that kind of like, because I haven't personally been an athlete and stuff like that. But I've heard there's a lot of transferable skills, especially with discipline and something. And I think you've talked about this in a few podcasts. How do you feel like that kind of has applied to your whole life? 100%. Yeah. I say the visualization and the dedication to do something and see it through to the end. I had to be down at the pool at 4 am every morning, do my training. do school and then back at the pool at like six o'clock, eight o'clock finish, back to, you know, sleep, get up in the morning, do it again. So that is needed, I'm sure, you know, for running a business and building a business. And it's just applying those sportsmanship. And also competition, like you mentioned, that other guy in your class that had the hundreds of skivers, you're always looking at the next person, who are we going to be, who are we going to compete with in a friendly manner? And I think that's an in-bred thing as well, because my earliest recollection of being competitive was a model competition. And there was no way I could win this model competition. Absolutely 100%. I was a junior. We got the experts over here with the fast engines and knew how to do it. And I applied myself in that competition at that young age. And worked out that if I actually set my adjustments on the engine, so it went even slower, I wouldn't need to refuel within the 30 laps of the race. And I won that competition. And it's, I think it's something to do with the dyslexia that you look for a way to get through it, you know, an answer that will work for you. I do anything as entrepreneurs. And especially me, I would honestly say my best goal is just kind of problem solving, like finding something, looking at being like, how can you do that? And I think that's a common trend you see in a lot of entrepreneurs. So coming back to that, when you lost that 10k a month, how did you solve that problem? What did you do? Let's get back to the story. Yeah, for sure. So I think after that, I was, so I was obviously, I was nervous, but I was also like, I was just relieved to an extent because I didn't want to be known for that. That was just kind of something I'd done. And I would, I think I was 15 when that happened. This would have been able to, no, so I just turned 16, I think when it happened. And yeah, I was finally ready to be like, okay, I actually want to do something impactful and do something meaningful to others because I feel like with a lot of business that you can almost, it's like you can earn a good amount of money. But I think as kind of we all know, like money by itself isn't going to provide you with that kind of like insane fulfillment. I almost see money as myself as just kind of a level of security. So you can then have the time and resources to pursue the things that I think actually give you that fulfillment and kind of give you that greater purpose. So I was kind of excited to finally be able to fulfill that. And I started doing that in realm of making those jarred West videos and those business videos and kind of documenting my experience and kind of like a almost like a optimized way, I suppose, so that it would get views and do well on YouTube. Did you feel imposter syndrome when you posted your first one about making 100K at 16? Sort of. So like I'd made a lot of videos before that. I think I even made a fiber video maybe in 2018 where I went like how I made like a few hundred from five. So it's like I'd always, I feel like I've had quite a nice progression with my whole YouTube thing because I feel like it's kind of leveled up in a quite nice like graduate and obviously said I haven't I haven't even been recognized in public before. So if the whole thing still feels surreal to me, it feels like numbers on a screen. I think likewise to you guys, especially having such a big tick to presence, you've probably been recognized in a few times. I've been recognized in multi actually to be fair by the casino guy. And it wasn't the best place to be recognized. I could I could imagine, but how like how is that generally for you? Well, for me, it's not a problem because I was quite well known when I was flying red at troll helicopters and we didn't have the social media at the time for that sort of thing. And I used to travel all over the world. I know that if I competed in Poland, for example, or in Japan, well, Japan, I'd get mobbed literally mobbed as we went to the contest area. So that that's just how it was. So it's a it's a similar thing really, but it is really nice. When people come up to you and they say, look, you've changed my life. I mean, I don't know if you want one of our recent videos, you know, the doctor was who helped me with my accident. He actually was one of my viewers and said, it's my turn to help you. I thought, how mad is that? That's crazy. Really mad, didn't it? I mean, it's well, I think especially for you because you like, I'm obviously like a Gen Z color made scene. So I've grown up with a lot of this stuff. So I was 10. It was known that people were going to be famous online, but especially for you and to have that experience. So life changing, I mean, it's just I can't I can't imagine that that's so well. I've obviously met people like, I think I met this Minecraft YouTuber once for a collab and I he was pretty big. I think he had like 10 million subscribers or something like that. And he got recognized when we were out and I just found that whole thing surreal. Was that going to tell me in it? Yeah, that was. Yeah. He's killing it, isn't he? No, he's yeah, he's doing very, very well. He has a very interesting perspective when I actually spoke to him on VC. It was very because I come from a culture of a lot of micro YouTubers. They're very algorithmically focused. And this is actually funny enough saying I'm kind of leaning away from to a degree. But they're very like, okay, how can we get views algorithm? When I spoke to him, I was almost expecting the same conversation. Whereas he had that he had that knowledge of the whole kind of algorithm and YouTube and optimizing these videos. But he was almost hyper focused as well on this kind of idea of just making sure the actual content is there because you can you can it's like putting makeup on a pig if the pig is if the product isn't actually good, you can over like optimize the whole thing, but it isn't going to do well. No, whatever is saying there, you can't polish a turd. Yeah, exactly. Your phrase is better. You can't do it. Yeah, no. Yeah, that was very eye opening. I suppose speaking to him on that mindset and it's definitely sunk. I think I'm recently starting to adopt because obviously we'll get onto the story. Yeah, if you produce quality, I've always said quality will always sell. Well, that's without that. It's only dependent on the price point you put on it as to if it or sell or not. If you produce rubbish, you don't matter what price point you on it. No, no one wants it. Hmm, simple as that. So what was the first video that really exploded on your personal finance channel? So I think that was I made a video like how to get a thousand followers on Instagram and that was very such targeted. So I think that did well long time. So that went from maybe like I uploaded a few hundred views the next week. I had a few thousand and then like months down the line, it maybe even kind of reached like 10,000, 100,000. So that was kind of a nice, almost like it was almost like a real video. I think the first, honestly, the first video that I would say on like Jared West that went super viral was honestly my 100,000 at 16 and I was completely not expecting that. I mean, I wasn't, I wasn't like because I had spent like pretty much a month's straight working on that editing it. Like the scripting process alone was like rolling honestly. So from that one video, yeah, how much did you do? I will pull up my analytics right now. That's a nice long video. It was a lot of you. It was 93 million eight, 2.8 million like that. Something like that. And we all know in the personal finance niche that it's quite a good tip. The RPM is very nice, especially when I've come from a place like recently, I suppose we'll get onto it, but I've been doing like these kind of short Minecraft videos and the RPM difference. So how much you would make for a thousand views is shocking. I will bring it up right now on lifetime and show you the amount you were and a lot of people ask about that and it is very variable isn't it across YouTube. So you can just see here, but well, you can say it out loud. Oh, God. Yeah. Say, be brave. Just say it. I'll set you up. How much money have you made from your video with two million views? 50,000. Wow. Yeah. That was nice. It's nice. Yeah. Backer than next. That was surprising. I honestly expected that video to maybe get 50k to 100k views. The most wild thing when I uploaded that video, I had 50,000 subscribers and obviously I took a big break after it, but I think when I uploaded my next video, I had like 170,000. So I had gone up like 120,000 subscribers since uploading that video. Just tell me about these. Right. You take. Yes. What's that all about? I don't know. It's like someone's friends. I've always been in the rest. I've always kind of been slightly inconsistent with YouTube and it's a very bad thing. I think I get bored of channels very easily and it's not a good thing. It's not something I'm particularly proud of. I'm very, I kind of like to move into the next thing, but I think they're all encompassing focus for me as always YouTube and creating different channels. So after Jarod West, I was going to say to Rihakon, I was getting burnt out. So just for some context, literally until this month, everything I produced in YouTube has been 100% produced by me. So I've done the editing scripting. I've never hired anybody, which was, it's very stupid looking back. I 100% should have because I kept getting burnt out doing that sort of stuff. So after the Jarod West video, I think this was September, 2020, I'm pretty sure. This was where my new channel, like the MacYom, the gaming one, randomly blew up. So I'd like to do these things. Obviously, I get bored. I start different channels where I just post a few videos on a separate niche that I like the look of and I'll post a video to see how it does. Pretty much that channel was like a Minecraft gaming skit channel. I did it as a complete joke and it blew up. I think in its first month, it went from like zero to like 400,000 subscribers. Yeah. It went from normal videos, not shorts. No more videos. I think I was making two-minute videos. So obviously how much I was making wasn't crazy. But I think in that month alone, I made like 40 to 50,000. Oh really? And I was posting daily like Minecraft skits. And it's crazy because when I was starting up that channel, I was making, I was probably spending five hours of video. So I was like doing them every day. And some of those videos have like 20 million views somehow, which is just, I don't know, it just seems absurd to me. Well, you've had a week where you've made a hundred K from what I'm aware. And what do your parents think of that? I don't know. They're, they get their heads around it. I think they do. Like especially my daddy kind of understands the whole like YouTube ecosystem. He's actually kind of like a fan. I was speaking to somebody about the sea of a day. I find really funny for some reason that he occasionally go on my channel and it will like look for the hate comments for some reason. And then he'll like show them to me and like get really like annoyed about them. And we'll bring out to me. But oh, this is just, this is wrong. This is wrong. This is wrong. They're saying you're rich kid and stuff like that. I just find that stuff really funny, especially with hate stuff. I don't. It doesn't tickle me. Well, the best way to let hate go over your head, didn't that? Because you know, you're all about entertaining people. The people that are entertained. That's fantastic. Those aren't, they're not, are they? It's not a lot you can do about that. I think as long as the intentions there, like hey, I feel like if you deep down know that you're your intention is to provide it to people. Yeah, exactly. You're not going to really take it personally. So would you say you have a job at the moment or a business? Because what I'm seeing at the moment is you're getting very passionate about channels. And then as soon as the passion leaves you, then you see. Yes, 100% these are current. Here is what I'm changing right now because I kind of got to a point where I can't stop. So I was getting to a place where I'm kind of like, I consider myself like a, this sounds really pretentious, like almost like an artist and almost like a businessman at the same time. And I was creating channels. Exactly. Exactly. The like, I was these two sides of me were constantly clashing on videos. And I'm sure in the J.I.D. West video, my last one, I was constantly talking about the overthinking of videos and stuff like that. And that was something that really, I just kept overthinking things. I kept thinking things had to be perfect. I was kind of a perfectionist with a lot of these videos. And it got to a point where like recently, I think in the last month where I was like, OK, let me build a business. So I'm going to be running other channels and we're starting, I'm actually partnering with a partner right now. And we're basically creating these channels and we're hiring people, we're building teams around them where I'm using my knowledge of YouTube and niches to create a business essentially with these channels. And that's something I've been so much more passionate about because it feels like I'm not having to, I'm a, I'm a macro guy, right? And I was for so long focusing on the micro details of these editing things. And now I've had like a month to take back from that. I've been, it's just been so relieving not having to edit all your videos and just kind of do that because if you do it for five years, it just, you know, it becomes mentally draining. And I think I was getting to that point. It's fun you say that because that's exactly what I'm doing at the moment building out brand channels. What niches have you identified as, as one you want to hear? Yeah. So I think we're doing almost like a shotgun approach, especially at the start where we're putting a ton of like these channels up, we're being like, OK, this is an interesting niche. We're going to hire some people we're going to make about like five videos. We're going to invest some money into this and we're going to get like a community shout out on that. So if people who don't know, it was kind of just a way to kind of get into the algorithm and get into the audience. So what we were doing is what we're like currently what we're doing is we're just producing like five videos and then we're getting somebody who's bigger in the niche. We're seeing if we can pay them for like almost a community poster and end screen. So you're launching the channel with five videos because maybe that's a watch session. Is that the sort of, so honestly, we're doing it one by one. Right. We're uploading them in short succession, but we're targeting several niches. I think we did one on Roblox, but it didn't turn out that well. So we're doing, we're even trying some kind of like finance and business because I was the first unexperienced from Jad West. And we're just, we're just honestly just taking a shotgun approach. And hopefully my thing is just in six months, if we apply ourselves, then we'll be at a point where hopefully we're making a good amount of money. And then I can come back to my Mickey Yom channel and Jad West channel and treat it more as a passion. And that's kind of what I realized I have to do. And honestly, the output will be better if I treat you like that because I won't be overthinking and treating it too much like a business. How do you get over the problem of the channel being too linked to the talent? So then in the future, if you needed that talent wanted to go and do something else, what how could you switch it? This is an interesting thing because I know a lot of guys, especially who do Minecraft stuff that hire talents. And in my experience of hearing these people and getting advice from them, it usually always turns out sour because I think just by human nature, we're always going to strive for more. And usually there's going to be fallouts from talents, et cetera. So I'm actually focusing on a lot of channels trying to make it not talent focused. So trying to run animations, for example, this is a bad example and I don't recommend getting into these niche, but there were these kind of like Reddit videos where you almost have this evergreen Reddit content supplying. And obviously those are outdated nowadays, but that kind of thing where it's evergreen and sustainable. And you can produce content without having that talent there. So you're doing all of this from home or do you have offices that are nice and plush with them? I'm going to hide into the reception. But the camera's like this. I mean, I would love to. I'm not at that point of well, but I think eventually that's the goal, especially to get into property in real estate as well, because it works to and want us to tax off its property that's going to go up and value. So I would eventually like to get that, but I don't have the, I don't have the, like amount of wealth to do that just yet. All the mental capacity we're doing all these other things. I guess so. I guess so. I think so. I think right now, which has been a very sharp shift, where it's like, I'm taking almost the role of like a CEO and kind of a visionary person. But instead of most of my day where I was like trying to force myself to edit, it's like, I'm just communicating with a team and I'm brainstorming. That's what I'm doing with it. I'm just communicating with this guy. He says he can do it for this price. Okay. And then this is the video and just relaying information on. And that's been quite refreshing because I think for such a long time on YouTube, I've been doing the actual like gritty work where I think I'm better as a visionary and being like, okay, this would work and reviewing videos and be like, okay, you can change this in this to optimize it. So your young channel was doing so great. And then I believe something happened. I don't know. I don't want to share that. Yeah. In the way. So I think with YouTube, do you know the channel Baluga by an example? Yeah. They blew up very quickly. They did. So they actually had a similar thing, but they obviously kind of got over it. So I think when you blow up really quick, YouTube will look at your channel and take like, maybe like a week and black list in my experience. And I've seen this happen to Baluga and it definitely happened to me. So I think it was after a month, I had got a really good month. I was maybe averaging like a million views a day on this channel posting every other day. And then my channel randomly got blacklisted. It's my daily kind of residual views of views in the background, where from about a million to, I think it was a hundred cases, 200 cases. I got cut in fifth, for example. And my, what did they stop it being searched like in the search engine? You can't. As well. And it was also, it was just one getting suggested that you literally see on the YouTube analytics graph that a bar would be like this. And then the next hour, it will complete disappear. And it was, it's a shady thing from YouTube and your email support. And they'll say, we don't know what's going on, but I'm sure it's like some internal investigation that you're not botting views. So I was going to say that you've got a lot of bots. Yeah, just watching your videos and stuff like that. But I think after a week, it passed. But I think that was almost like, it slowed down the momentum. I'm, I think Graham Stefan from what I heard is a big believer in this. But he's very like posted video every few weeks and stick to that schedule religiously. And I honestly think that is one of the best ways to approach YouTube posting. Because as much as much as I almost treat YouTube such as like, it's an algorithm. And if you make a good video, it will get promoted and you can spend as much time on that video as possible. At the end of the day, YouTube is audience based. And audiences get bored of people. And that is going to affect the analytics. And that's like, I'm recently kind of realizing, especially my last Jaguette video, right? I took a year off. And obviously because of that, it didn't do as well. And I was kind of like, okay, I got to kind of rethink my strategy to it. So you're going to make one of those each year. So yeah. So yeah. So my last RPM was bad. It was like $5. Yes, $5. $4 for some reason. I don't think it reached the right audience because what I was concerned. So that was this video. I think I got 200k views, which was going to up my Mac Yum story and Jardwest Rair, then if you've seen that. And I think from that, I got a lot of influx of like on my Jardwest channel of the Minecraft viewers. I think possibly the audiences got mixed up. So that's why the RPMs like kind of in this weird midway of like $5, right? It would usually be maybe $10 per 1000 views. Do you think that's why it's not got as many views as the first video? Because YouTube aren't pushing it as hard because they're not making as much money from it. So yeah, I don't think that's a thing. I don't think because YouTube are making less money, they would push it less. I just think because the retention was bad. Like, I'm not going to like, the retention was really like, it was like, I think it was 40, it's like 50% first day on a 12 minute video, which is okay, but it dropped like pretty suddenly and the first 40 seconds was bad. Joy, I mean, and that was, it was a kick in the start, but I think I was actually speaking it on the way to even this podcast. They were asking a heart of that video. And I was like, it's almost like a blessed in disguise that that did bad. That sounds very counterintuitive and weird, but I feel like it's put me in a mindset where I'm like, okay, I have to hire a team now. I can't just be a solo team because if that video did well, I know the first thing I would do is I would try and make like five more overly optimized videos and I would burn myself out again. So I think that it sounds like your superpower is when when something bad happens, you see it as a good thing. And then you learn from it and adapt. I think that maybe is how you've got to where you are today. I think so. Like recently, I think we spent like, I think I lost like four grand on a few channels in two days. Like I just like some stuff happening. Didn't work out, et cetera. So is that what you, how did you do that? So I, so I was like working on like hiring people on kind of like doing percentage deals of channels and like some of the deals thrown through and we got like a bad actor. And like I was recommending him by a friend and he kind of like basically in short, he'd scam me to a degree, right? Which was annoying. But I don't know, I feel like I've always been decently good at taking hours and I have this almost like, I've always had this kind of macro mindset of where I'm like, this sounds very weird and kind of out of place, but I'm like, nothing really matters. You're all going to, we're all going to kind of die one day to an extent. And this full grand in like years time isn't going to do anything. Yeah, what doesn't tell you makes you strong, right? But you won't make that mistake again. No, of course I wouldn't. And I was like, I went to a partner like, I'm going to take all accountability for this. This is all coming out of my pocket. This is my bad for doing this too quickly. And I always, I'm learning from that mistake. I will never make that same mistake again. Do you think youngsters nowadays are afraid of failing? I think honestly, no, because I feel like there's such a big culture. And if somebody who's grown up in that culture, I think you see it so often. If you're on TikTok, whatever it's that kind of whole never give up culture. And I think it's worth to an extent where there's so much around like, don't give up, don't give up, don't give up for me at least it's almost ingrained into my mindset. Like I feel like I can't give up because it's just kind of what I've grown up on in the content I've consumed is so big around just like you almost like can't get enough because just okay, so not giving up as a mindset is maybe slightly misleading because it's not working. You have to let it go obviously. But that kind of persistence mindset and I don't know, I kind of have this thing. I feel like I'm very good at taking L's. I'm very good at taking losses. Like I can, for example, I think I don't know if you want to get into like investing, but I had a few slightly rough investments in the recession. So I was in to like that I did a bit of energy. whatever I lost about like, I think I lost about 10k there. That's 10k. Yeah, but 10k does smart, isn't it? Yeah, nice. What did you buy? I don't know, just a bunch of like, a bunch of NFT projects so they brought it all went down. So how did you pick the one that you actually bought or the company bought? Because I was dumb. I actually documented it for a Jad West video but they actually didn't make the cart. Really? Yeah, no. Yeah, I was just, like I was, I was, I was, like, 17. I was seeing all these projects blow up and I was like, oh, let me, and I did like my research but, you know, there was like one in maybe a thousand that actually did well and you'd make profit or launch and yeah, I lost money on that but as well with the whole stock recession, I am, I have a pretty bad mindset when it comes to investing, I'm very risky because I, I suppose, since I'm young, I'm very like, okay, if I'm believing in something, I'm gonna invest a lot into it. And I think I had like a stock on my portfolio. So I was up maybe like 50 and then now I'm down like 70-something. I think so. It was, so I bought like a few of them. Yeah. And one went down like 70% in the recession and I had like a good amount into that. So that, that, that, but, you know, the belief will not make a stock go up. Exactly. That's an short term. Not the long term. And you've got to, you've got to take that emotion out of the equation. You've got to think really logically about buying stocks. Yeah, 100%. I mean, I'm still holding that stock. I've hold it for about a year. So the thing is, I cashed out at the top but the thing is after a recession, it got hit really hard. So I think I remember average down. I kept averaging down, kept averaging down. I kept buying the dip. And obviously I'm new to this whole stock game. And I don't consider myself a good investment. But I take that as just like a learning experience and like, okay, that was an L, but we're going to move on from that. Do you have any safer investments as well? I have, I'd say I have maybe 60% of my like 60% to 70% of my net worth after textures and savings account because after a recession. So I have the lot of buying power to buy stuff. But honestly right now I'm focused more so on just investing into myself. Like I was going to, I had this idea on my mind. It's very dumb. You're going to want to hate me right now. But I wanted to have this idea where I go all in into crypto when it goes down. I didn't do that. Because it went down again. Yeah, it did. I was going to buy when like Ethereum was a thousand. But honestly, it might go down to like 500 and I'm a, you know, say thank God I didn't do that. But yeah, I've very much so taken the much safer approach now. I'm almost lunt from my stock thing. I'm like, okay, I'm just going to invest into index funds. I'm not going to get yourself the safety net. Sooted once the safety net sorted do what you want. But get the safety net sorted. I think you'll be glad to know that I've maxed out my IRS. No, I say, for example, so that means you should something that is such an advantage to you. So get that done. It's great. How are you investing your money in yourself now? Because you mentioned that. Yeah, so I'm, so we're focusing on a lot of kind of like right now at least. We're looking at doing percentage deals of already existing channels. And we're kind of giving them kind of like upfront incentives almost. So we're taking channels that maybe have 10,000 subscribers, but maybe on the optimise for the algorithm. I'm still getting like decent monthly views. And we're like, okay, how can we reach out to these people, do a nice percentage deal and focus on their production and kind of. So we're not having to go for that painful like six month phase of that zero to kind of like a thousand subscribers phase of a channel where you invest a lot of money in it kind of hurts. So we were like stuff that's already out of the ground, but they're ready to kind of explode upwards. And we're reaching out to those people. And we're getting production teams around them and just trying to make them blow up. How do you make sure that they keep posting videos regularly? Because obviously you're putting a lot of faith in them because you can't make money of what? We're looking at channels usually which aren't around the talent. So we're looking at channels, for example, this is just a basic example. And I clip channels, I think, do bad and they've got demonetised and stuff like I see have to be very careful with that sort of stuff. But something, for example, around like a clip channel where it's like you can produce content and it's not really about that. They just get a percentage deal for owning the channel and they kind of like we kind of own it, but we kind of bought it out and they want to percentage that channel for the future. So it makes it kind of easy for us. Is it a revenue percentage of your equity? So I guess it's a revenue of the entire channel. So it's kind of both. I guess it's supposed it's like an equity. So you do, do you own most of the IP of those channels? No, we do. So we own the IP. We're just giving them a revenue. Okay, no matter. I think that's a smart way to do it. Yeah, because I suppose otherwise, we're also doing deals as well. This is one where I got scammed on where we were buying out right channels as well and I was clumsy and I made a few bad errors and I got like somebody I thought I knew, recommended me this guy and it's time that he was a bad actor. So, you know, it is what it is. It's sort of a learning experience. I'm very new to this world and obviously for Jard West at least I want to take a lot of these lessons and apply them to other things as well. So yeah, I guess we'll see how it goes. I'm excited to see where that goes. I'm enjoying it a lot more. So. Well, good time to learn these lessons. This is when you're young. That's for sure. You know, a lot of people wait until they're about 30, 35 and they're big lessons then and real setbacks, whereas yours are lessons that you can improve going forward. That's I think that's always been my mindset just kind of being 18 and being young and I've almost got a nice cushion of money. It's not anything I would consider substantial for my age as far as it is and it's good. But I'm also see it as an opportunity like it would be a waste if I just I feel like took this money and was like, okay, I'm just going to invest this and make like five K a month for the next like, I don't know, like 20 years. That's not something I want to do. I'd rather I'd rather go out fighting with this money because I don't know. Maybe I have this like slight delusion, but I feel like I've learned enough and I kind of have this belief in myself that if I really want to do something, I will spend one to two years straight, even five years just focusing on that one thing if I really want to do it and I will make it work. I don't know. I have that mindset. Maybe it's slight delusion, but I don't know. I kind of have that belief in myself that I really want to do something. I will focus and I will find a way to do it. So well, that's good focus as long as there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Yes. And you know the saying, if there isn't a light at the end of the tunnel, you're in a cave. Yeah. You've got to get back out and get started again. So yeah. And I feel like I'm also operating in a ecosystem, the YouTube ecosystem that I'm very familiar with. Because I would be I suppose I'd be much more wary if I was doing this investing all into this investing money into kind of channels and deals. If I didn't know what I was doing, for example, if I was doing something like drop shipping where I'm not as experienced, but I've had I've been in this for like five years. I think I've had I've had like a lot of like multiple channels would be like five six. Do very well. Like over a hundred thousand. So I feel like I'm pretty confident. And I think not only that I have a I have a good I have a good network and connection system just in YouTube in general. So I don't know. So for an 18 year old with a lot of money, you seem like right. You're very cautious with it and frugal. Have you have you made like a massive purchase on something crazy? That isn't an investment. No, like never. I mean, I bought a MacBook for like one point two. That's like. I like the lamb. No, I don't like lamb is a cool like maybe a super. Maybe but I don't I don't know if I care that much about it. Like it'd be nice. But the thing is I know exactly what's going to happen because I've had like I'm sure it's like the same thing almost we're getting like a gold play button for example. I'm just not listening there. But it's like that they're so cool and you you aspire some so much. But after a week, you know, even look at them. Yeah. How do you feel about because I think you've got to let a Tesla in the driver. Then if that was for a video example, how do you feel about that and just buying expensive cars in general? Well, buying expensive cars is there's no journey involved. It's instant gratification, isn't it? Yeah. And when you aspire to something the journey quite often outweighs the actual physical thing you've got there. And that's the same with competition really. You can train for something, train for something. And again, going back to my radar control flying times, I was coming second at national championships for like seven years running and the day I won it was like, well, that was easy. You know, that's how it is. Where did the big whoa? It went. It wasn't there. You know, it's weird. Yes, it is. It's always very strange. It's almost weird because I think like you guys as well are very ambitionary. Like I don't think there is a certain amount that you would just be like, I'm completely done at, which is kind of the time of people who would achieve these big feet. So the same time people that don't sit down to enjoy many ways. So it's almost waste on them. I'm a big believer in the journey and I feel like every bad thing that you go for and every ounce of pain that your experience just makes the ending more like as good. I feel like you know, like these rich kids who are born into wealth. There's almost like a degree of like you just feel sorry for them because I don't have anything to work towards until nothing has any value unless you give it value by working hard. And I guess just going through the pain and suffering and losing a lot of money. And I don't know. Well, happiness is the journey, not the destination. That's, yeah. And we try to do something at least once a year. It's more than that, obviously, but something big once a year. Like last year we flew into the ski resort by a helicopter. And we always wanted to do that because you're very frugal as well. And you don't, you don't want to spend money on certain things. But I was like, yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. Yeah, we can say it's content as well. I can't wait and we can make a tick talk about it. So it makes sense. I think so. Yeah, I think in the recent kind of even like the recent months as well. So I very just kind of like on us for some context. My social life hasn't been great. Like I don't have like a particularly massive social life because I feel like I I mean, I have good online friends who are almost I would call business business acquaintances and some business friends. But my actual social circle IRL isn't really anything to be honest. And that's something I'm working at improving because that would just improve my work life flow. Yeah, it's very important. I lost all my social network at one point. And it takes a long time to build it back. And for me, it's incredibly important that I can spend the weekend, particularly this weekend. I'm off tomorrow and I'm spending that with friends for the whole of the weekend. And it's great. I really look forward to that. And I will enjoy it. And I'll be happy within that time period. You know, it's a lot of fun. And I think socials more important than people give it credit for. And I said, I'll probably say particularly the younger generation. because I think they got 10,000 friends on Facebook or whatever happens to be. But that really only equates probably to one real friend in the real world. So true friend. True friend. Yeah. And your whole thing about buying experiences as well, 100% of them, definitely coming to tons of that and being like, okay, maybe I should take money here and do some cool things with that because beforehand, I'd be very much against that, I suppose. I can't imagine how it must be for you being 18 and making so much money. You're hyper focused on building a business and they're doing their 95 job and maybe they enjoy it, maybe they don't do that at party all the time. It's just you got different focuses in life and then how do you find common ground between the two? I suppose I think, so I think especially with Mickey, I find a lot of common ground, especially socially humour. Like I feel like, I probably haven't presented it too much on this thing, but I feel like I'm a pretty like stupid like goofy person. I don't know why. Yeah, I think you're using it. Yeah, I know exactly. You tried into the American audience here. I don't know. I do. I spend too much time with Americans nowadays. It's so bad. Like my parents came up to me and was just like, you sound more American than English now. They're probably going to disown me soon if I don't. Yeah. And you use the dollars. Well, you have to really don't you? Yeah, do you use dollars when you're in the UK? Do you get those comments? Of course. My parents can't to me. Why don't you use pounds because I'm like, dollars are universally recognized, currency. It's like, so easy to, you know, work out from that work, but you're worth in pounds or whatever. Exactly that. Right. I think we should come on to our final questions. Go on there. Right. If you could only invest in one thing for the rest of your life, what would it be? And why? I'm not going to say yourself because I have watched other podcasts. That's the question you. So if I can invest in one, honestly like, property or an index fund, one of the two properties probably more solid, long term is going to do best index funds. It's more liquid, I suppose, because it's easier to sell and they also kind of over time approved this as a time. Have you been asked what yours are or do the people know? We have been asked. I said, I said people as in hiring more star to build businesses. Yeah, 100%. So when is enough enough? Good question. There is, I don't know, like, money is such a weird thing because there is never going to be enough. I think I would like to get to a stage, honestly, where my, I satisfy both the kind of business side of things and the kind of more artistic creative things. Like, I have this kind of vision in mind that I don't know, in like five years time, I would love to almost do something like create a comedy series or a show. Like that's something I'd really like to do. Something in that round of things. You need to be funny to do that. Hang on, hang on, he's a goofball. I'm goofy. It's no problem. The new Ricky Gervais. He's there. That's like I maybe like to do, but I don't know. I don't think there is a definitive amount where enough is enough. And I guess the whole, it links into the whole idea of retirement. Like, I don't, I'm not sure how much I believe in the idea of retirement, but maybe when, do you know, I mean, I grow older and I'm a choreographer. But when you're told it's me, you better say that, weren't you? You really don't like point to you. Well, when you're young, you don't see that stage coming. Definitely. That stage does come. What is your perspective on that? I think at your age, you need to be aiming for 10 million. I want you to have 10 million invested, liquid, added together, net worth. You haven't got to worry for that stage on. And I think from there, you can build if you want to build. You can sit on a beach, drinking peanut colladas for the rest of your life if you wish. I think that's the tipping point about 20 years old at the moment, I think. I think that's a good number to aim for. I think in the kind of when you get to, what is that eight figures, I think that's when you can really start to consolidate down and do whatever you want. But I get just depends what your missions and goals are in life in general. So yeah. Well, you're very wise through your age. Thank you very much for coming on. My investments. But yeah, well, we forget those. Not quite as funny as I would have liked. But there you go. If you guys did find the episode, then make sure to smash that thumbs up button for the YouTube algorithm and subscribe for new videos every Friday morning. So it's goodbye from me and he's goodbye from him and the funny one. See you later. That was good. Thank you guys.