Jared Freid Is Here For Every Millennial | Hour 1

You are listening to The Down Laboratory Show, in partnership with The Draft King Sports Act. Now live in all 50 estates. This episode of The Dan Lovatov Show is presented by Draft King Sports. Draft Kings, the crown is yours. This guy is very funny, he's also very busy. He's got a Netflix specialist second. It premieres today, the family plan. He also wrote a book, his debut book, "Walking Red Flag, dating advice from your favorite guy, friend back in June. Host the J Train Podcast, co-host the podcast, you up, he's a stand-up comedian, a podcaster, and an author, Jared Fried with Thank You. And congratulations on your second special. You're young enough in the game that you are still super excited about these things. They take a long time to make how has the experience doing this one been for you? It is great to be here. Huge fan, thank you. I'm coming to you from my studio hotel room here in Manhattan sitting here next to the window watching the antics here. I can't believe you guys have a makeup woman. I was just watching during the break. This show having a makeup woman is like the surprise of the century to me. I can't, I can't, you guys are dressed for a pickup game at a JCC and you're like getting blush put on. That's crazy. >> I don't know what's worse. I just think that's in people at home don't know. Zazlow's dressed literally to go get coffee after waking up 10 minutes ago. And you guys have someone putting on. I love it. I'm proud of the special thank you. I'm a huge fan. Love it, all right, of what you do. And yeah, you just said all the stuff I do. I never shut up and I have a special that is a one-hour story about going to the beach with my parents in Delray Beach, Florida in 2018. My dad asked me how much I weighed while we sat across from each other at the beach. And that's the whole special. That's it. And it's all about my family and my parents and the millennial boomer relationship and how I'm 41 and still on my parents' cell phone plan. If you relate to any of these things, body issues and lack of money while your parents have all of it, you're going to love the special. It's for everybody. It's for you, your cousin that you go smoke weed with during Thanksgiving and your parents alike because my parents came to every every time I did it in Daniel Beach and they brought friends. So that was really the greatest pleasure to make fun of them to their face and have them love it. Did they know they were going to be a focal point of it? They knew when I brought them to the, I do the Comedy Cell in New York that's like home to me and I brought my parents and the staff is all friends with me like all the managers and they were and I had been doing this material about my parents and they were like, have they seen it yet? I was like, they lived it. What are you talking about? And I sat them down in the jump seats and I go on stage. I start doing these jokes about my mom. She stands up in the middle of the show goes, no, no, we didn't do that. And so now I'm having a fight with my mom. I had to look at the audience and be like, hey, that's my mom. That's the person I'm talking about right now. So the thing is they're all true stories. So I don't really feel that we're telling them. This is all stuff that we would laugh about, you know, fight about and then eat Chinese food together afterwards. Does she not understand that she's not supposed to stand up during a professional comedians act and go, no, no, she doesn't care. She's never cared. This is my mom. She is, you know, I say it in the special like every time I got sent to Karen video, I thought the next one would be her. Like I just thought every, you know, like none of those Karen videos even surprised me. I'm like, yeah, that's a mom going to war for their family, you know, in most of those. And it's like, you know, my mom just is like the show. You know, she has always been a character and the fun of my family. And so like growing up, people would be like, you're Kim's son. Like they'd be surprised. Comedian though, they couldn't have been initially supportive of that as a career choice. They didn't get it. My dad was like, oh, you're going to be a businessman. This is an entrepreneurial pursuit. That was his understanding of it. Like he's like, oh, you'll be one of the guys on 30 rocks sitting around the table dressed like Dan Lebuttarn is friends looking like a slob. So like that was my dad's thing. My mom, like she was just like, I think moms are rated based on what their kids do. And they just want an easy answer. Like kids, a doctor, you've done a good job. You know, like that's kind of what they want. So I think for a couple of years, you didn't get it. But my parents were weirdly like, okay, as long as they felt like you were busy. Your book is about dating. Is this a Netflix special that they've used today? Does it have a lot of dating in it? Or is just your parents as the focus and you being a fat guy? It's me being a fat guy and me having body issues. And it's the, the specials of one hour story. It's all one theme. And there's some stuff about dating, but like that's really not the focal point. It's really about the millennial boomer relationship and being, you know, in this weird thing where our relationship with our parents is so different than our parents relationship with their parents. Like we fly somewhere and text our family landed. Like that's crazy that we're still connected to our parents in this weird way that we thought would be different now. >> I have a bunch of dating questions for you. I assume that women always have it worse than men in the dating scene and that would continue today. Correct? >> Yes. >> What is the worst dating advice out there that you would regard as conventional wisdom? >> The worst dating advice out there is if he wanted to, he would. Because I think it does a disservice to women owning their own feelings and speaking to them. Because if he wanted to, he would is, why are you putting your feelings in their hands? I don't understand that. I don't think guys act like that. And I think a lot of women are misled to hide their feelings and not speak up. And if I would have changed that, I'd be like, if you ain't wet, he don't get, you know, like I would switch that. >> Do you think, what do you think is the most common dating mistake that people make? And these times hiding, men make dating profiles to Russia fraternity, women make dating profiles to not be too much. And I think they would be served well by taking advice from each other. Men need to make a dating profile that is, that could check a lot of boxes and has safety to it and has friends and has normalcy. Women need dating profiles that stand out and are a little bit more of them and have a little bit more personality and don't hide. >> What's at the top of the list for the men listening in the audience and it's mostly men on turnoffs, turnoffs that they are regularly doing? >> Well, the problem with men is not understanding the female side and thinking that their problems are just as big as women in the dating world. My audience, the people that I speak to are mostly women. And the problem they have with men dating is that it's not a priority for them. It's all fun and games and they're not seeing that, you know, for a lot of women out there, this is serious and this is something they're doing well in their whole lives. They're having, they're doing great in their career. They have good friends that they go out with every week and this is the one thing they're kind of having trouble with and it's because the men generally don't care. I think if men understood that, you know, women generally care about these things and it is in all fun and games to them that they would take a little more seriously and maybe be a better dating partner. How about specific turnoffs though, things that guys do that women would tell you, don't do that. That's generally women hate and you guys are in Florida, I'm in Delray Beach. Women do not like sandals with jeans. That is one thing that I went around the country for the first special on Netflix. I had this thing where I was like asking women their X and they were somewhat regional. Things with jeans in Florida and in Phoenix was like a huge like, don't do that. That is just not a no go. But I do also think for a lot of women like one woman's dick is another woman's husband. So that's kind of the fun of an egg is like, there's one woman being like, I don't like sandals with jeans and the woman next to her is rubbing the guy's leg with wearing sandals and jeans being like, well, it looks good on you, Robert. I feel like that's, you know, I think that's the turn offs otherwise, you know, you have like, you know, chasing a ping pong ball and wearing a backpack and running. But you can't, you can't really out, you can't really zig when you, you know, you can't out, you know, juke out an egg. My best advice is to own your X and to be worried about the X is an egg in itself. All right. Tell me on a scale of one to 10, how big of a red flag is for example ghosting? It's a bad thing, but like ghosting to, you know, the something in the book that I go over is the definition of ghosting. You know, I think if you're, I think you're always better off. Hey, I mean, but I'm, you know, this is advice that's easier to give than it is to take. That's the whole point of the book is like, I'm telling personal stories to tell you what's going on on the male side. I think for men, if they're going to like get into my book, it's like, you're going to be seen and heard. A lot of your insecurities about career and how, how you're valued based on how you're doing at work is going to be kind of shown in that and kind of give aside to that. But it's definitely the, you know, the premise of like what, you know, what to do to not be a turn off. You know, you're going to be, you know, it's all kind of, it's hard to put words to. Well, give me a number then, if you can't find the words, a scale of one to 10 red flag ghosting. I would say that's a nine out of 10 if you're just going to disappear on someone. Double texting. Zero out of 10. Social media stalking before the first date. The word stalking that you're giving to it is the wrong word because that kind of gives it like, we all do a level of looking someone up before we go. Again, this is like the male side needs to see it through a woman's eyes. Women, you know, here's the thing men never think about with dating is murder. So I think a lot of women are always have murder on their mind, especially with meeting someone off of a dating app. And we all go, well, I'm not that guy, I'm a good guy. I'm not the guy from the Netflix documentary, but that's why men have more fun dating. They'll go meet any woman in any alley and hope for some fun to happen. Women have to think about murder. So a level of looking someone up before a date is a good thing to do. And I don't think it's a problem, but there's such a thing as too much. I think, you know, a lot of women will go and put a guy's name into a closed off Facebook group called, are we dating the same guy? And those Facebook groups serve a really good thing with their trying to avoid murder. But what ends up happening is they put the name in and then 30 women write about how they went out with Jason Zaslow. And it was like, oh my God, the worst day of the date of their life. Any wore mess shorts and he came dressed like he came from a JCC basketball game. And you're like, okay, we've done too much stalking at that point. So there's like a, did you just snort Jason? Okay. See, this is because Jared and I have become friendly. This is now, unless you did on purpose, there's no thing you did. This is the second time he's called me Jason. I'm sorry. That's not your friend, pal. That is the second time that we wish each other happy birthday twice a year. That's not your buddy friend. He was very apologetic the first time. Now that's what I believe it was. I'm sorry. What is a red flag that gets a 10 Jared who I guess a 10 red flag for anyone male female is unawareness, you know, being unaware and not having any care for the other person the other side. And, you know, and I would also say telling someone how horrible dating is like I think complaining about dating to someone else that you're trying to date. It's like, yeah, we're both losers. We're both here. We're both trying to find someone like, yeah, this does suck, but like, where does that get us? Jared, I want to see that picture again of the release of his special there. You seem a good deal heavier there and one of the things that they say in comedy. Did my dad call you? What's going on? No, you just look heavier there than you do now and I got great angles when I go on the camera and my on in my room. Never a man should never be clean shaven. I think we all agree. Sorry, says Jason Jason, the funny though, the thing about you hear this all the time in comedy. If a big guy loses the weight, there's some of the good idea. This is smart. Yeah, I mentioned that to the guy that's mentioned. He said body issues 12 times in his interview. You look really fat. You look really fat. And I'm here, though, my point is that now angles from a zoom camera. Here's his photo. Listen, nobody likes having their body. This happens all the time. I'll have one guy go, he's not that fat and then someone else will be like, but he's jolly though. You never want your body to become the debate of a town hall meeting because then you hear whatever one thinks are like the angles are good. No, I've lost some weight. My dad offered me his ozemic at dinner like a couple months ago and so, but I'm angle hot. Like it really depends on where you're looking at me from. Like, you know, right now, you know, the spot that I'm at, like I put the, I put the camera right where I need angle. I love it. Let me see. I can all tell you weight loss. I can tell you right now, let me tell you, as a good seat for camera, he knows where he's going to say, he puts Zaslow in that side seat and he gets the side angle. He's got gets it. Dan's way fat. He's onto me. Yeah. The, I've had a fat face of my life. I feel like I'm an expert in this area. Dan, we look like cousins, we're, we're, we're doing a good job. We are, you know, the thing is the special is really all about that. Like, it's all familial stuff, you know, like my dad had body issues, I had body issues. My kids will have it and all we do is go out and eat and talk about our bodies. That's just, that's how it goes. The family plan premieres today. It's his second Netflix special, also the book Walking Red Flag dating advice from your favorite guy friend and he hosts the J train podcast and co-host the podcast. You up. Thank you. Appreciate it, Jared. Dude, you're the best. Thank you guys for having me. I really appreciate it. Big fan. Thank you guys so much. Dan Levittar. What is the worst part of the life? Jenna Densassilo. The worst part of the life of us. This is the Dan Levittar show. A little bit later in the show, we are going to have Michael Irvin as we do a bit of a Cain's insight sort of day here on the YouTube channel. So that is what is coming down the path here with Michael Irvin in a little bit. I wanted to ask you guys something I didn't talk about yet. You guys saw that Troy Ackman, they have put Monday night football limits on how he can do that job. I believe that's a job that pays him $1 million in episode. I believe he gets paid $17 million. I'm assuming there are 17 Monday night football games and so it's a pretty great job, right? There's not a lot you have to do other than be available 17 Mondays a year, which is not something the mannings can do. They can't be available 17 Mondays a year. So they're going to be available 12 Mondays a year. The idea that he's going to now be able to do that job less well because he's helping a team that has no chance this year, try to fix itself. Do you think his employer should have any issue with the fact that he's got a side gig that allows him to do a job that pays him $1 million in episode less well who actually does have the issue like when they make this rule, like who actually who actually has the issue with him. It's just paranoid football people. They're just crazy. They're all crazy about secrets and all of an information trafficking. I mean, I don't know if the consumers have an issue. It was cited for a reason why Tom Brady struggled at least early on again, should be mentioned that Tom Brady really had a nice end to the season and improved a lot, but Joe Buck and Troy Ekman are calling a Super Bowl. This year they're one of the more trusted broadcast teams. The ratings have gone up with them in that booth. I know football has gone up, but they really needed to improve that booth and they brought in one of the best if not the best teams out there. It's already popped up. I mean, a quarterback didn't say what's up to Troy Ekman and said what's up to Joe Buck because he didn't know Troy Ekman from the meeting. So we're going to lose some friendships along the way. So so Ekman isn't able to participate in the meetings and that's because Joe Buck and then the producers are able to get the information out of the coaches and the coaching staff that they would like to get for the broadcast. Do we just assume that Joe Buck is not going to tell Troy Ekman we're going by honor card yet? I trust that in Troy's approach to the game. He's super trusted whereas Tom doesn't know what he's not getting from that and other teams like Tony Roma. If Tony Roma wasn't allowed, you'd question his preparation. Troy Ekman is considered a consummate professional. So I'm interested to see if there's any sort of drop off. Do you guys not think it's funny in any way though that the reason that Troy Ekman was hired by the dolphins is because he has an access to information from these meetings that he's not allowed in any more. That's yeah, when you put it that way, what does he bring into the table now that that spicket has been closed? A football team that is favored to win one football game this entire season has hired somebody home against the jets has hired somebody who now because of that hiring has limits on his big full-time job that is a job that requires 17 Mondays from him. But Jeremy, can you look up for me, please, what Troy Ekman made in his career, the most he made in a season playing quarterback? Because well, I guess I find it fairly extraordinary that all of this is in play. And when I say all of it, I mean all of it that the dolphins would hire this person because they think he has some sort of secret access that all their other football people can't get to and that that person would now be banned from getting that information because of the full-time job he has that's not a full-time job that pays him. I'm guessing here, right? I'm doing the math. I don't know how many other obligations are in Troy Ekman's contract, but I think the obligation is he's got to work 17 days a year plus whatever the travel is before and after the game. And the playoff, say call it playoff game and they're calling the Super Bowl this year. Man, you got to think twice about calling out $6 million on the line. That's pretty good, pretty good job if you get it, but it doesn't even buy you exclusive It doesn't even buy you the ability to do that job most well because now he is being actively kept out of the meetings where the information is supposed to be and to me all of that seems crazy. Let me approach this from another angle when I talk about broadcasters and the guys getting the jobs. Luke Keakley is now the up and coming broadcasting star that people like when they look at Tony Romo and they put him on the bench for a while, they replace him with JJ Wat. Grunk has a job even though Grunk is a notoriously bad talker and I just wonder if you guys notice that the sport is disproportionately black and the broadcasters that get hired are disproportionately white and it's on purpose. Like I'm asking the question, it's to make it palatable to the broadest section of people and so I'm just asking if you guys notice that all of the up and coming people are always the white guys. We're so back. There aren't that many white stars in football, there are plenty of black stars. Jason's got this one. Why are the white ones the only one who get the broadcasting jobs? You see Jason looking into the custodian. Conversely though, it's the black players who then do all the podcasting. I mean, is it possible that most players and obviously he gets disproportionately black over white? Is it possible that most of the players they'd actually rather just do the podcasting? No, that's where the independence and the availability is, that's where the jobs are for them. They have to do it themselves because the mainstream's not actually hiring. That's a great job, Jason. I'm impressed. You pull that out quick. That's right. I'm just wondering whether people notice that it's always JJ Wat. It's always Luke Keakley. As if there aren't a bunch of Jonathan Vilma's out there that are available. I was going to say, Vilma's the only one I could think of for a Carl's day to say, Vilma. There was Jason Vilma. That was at one year where we all were like, yeah, let's get to leave in there. He seems fun. And then that stuff happened. Speaking of white and black, you see what's happening with WEEI. It's always WEEI and notoriously famous, a notoriously famous racially charged station in Boston. I don't know if they've suspended Will Fleming, but the radio announcer for the Red Sox got mad at jazz chism because in a six to nothing game, jazz chism stole third base at the order of Aaron Boone yelling from the dugout. If you don't hold him on, he was warning them. If you do not hold him on, I am going to run. And then Will Fleming got really upset and said typical Bush league jazz chism. They should throw at him next time. I like jazz chisms quotes on this where jazz chism says among other things of Will Fleming, I didn't even know who that was until this morning. And I'm still not going to remember who he is after today. And jazz chism said the reason that they're unwritten rules is because they're not actually rules. You don't have to follow them, but I find it curious here, Zaz, tired as well. It's always a white guy going after one of the flamboyant ethnic guys in baseball and protecting something that is Bostonian and specific to Boston very often and specific to WEEI. But I sent over the vacation break. I just sent Jeremy a screenshot of the red scoring seven runs in the ninth inning against the Giants. Like six nothing. Hold the guy on. Like what are you talking about? You're going to throw a jazz chism because he stole a base because you weren't holding him on when the Yankees are still trying to score runs. And they want your infielders out of position. So they want you to be holding jazz chism on. So they have more space in the field, but six nothing. And is that an egregious event to steal a base when you're up six nothing? How is that? I don't think that is even an unwritten rule. I think that's totally made up. Up six runs. It was seven one and the Yankees go on to score nine in the inning. So if the Yankees can score nine in an inning, when there were two innings left to play, if the Yankees can score nine in an inning, like why couldn't they're at sock score? Like the only way that this should be a thing that you're not able to run in that spot and I understand it's an unwritten rule. Okay, save it. But the only reason that it should be a thing is if both managers at this point of the game, they both walk out onto the field and they shake hands and say, we are no longer trying these final two innings. Let's just get out of here. Anything short of that to play the often game. I just can't believe that this would be the case in the modern game. Six runs is not that much. Like you just said, the reds scored seven run. They stink. Their offense might be okay, but they stink and they could score seven runs in the ninth inning. The Marlin scored six runs in the ninth just the other day based off the nationals making errors. Like this stuff happens all the time. And for them to call, Jack, look, if it was 13 to one in the ninth inning, maybe we're having this conversation, but this is sort of like people who think comebacks from 20 points with 10 minutes left in the fourth quarter are a big deal. The game has completely changed. And the math, not to sound like Dan, is totally different. Here was the clip of Wolf Fleming on W.E.I. And you hold on to it. It's a catch. Chisholm's doing it again. By the way, what he does, but you're up six, it's the eighth. The team is electing not to hold you on. That's the white flag, right? And normally in that situation, you don't run. You don't run. And he's sort of like to see Moran drill wells right here in fields coming in. That's selfish play. That's just patting your staff. Well, he's a bush. But guess what? I mean, it's not even a steal. Here's the picture. It's swung on a mess. I think that's indifference, don't you? Yeah. It's just, you know, that one of the unwritten rules, like if we're holding you on, sure. If you get a jump, go. But if I'm going to play behind you at first base, that's us just saying you just play the game, right? And normally you don't see guys stealing in that situation up six here. Golf, man. If in the ninth inning, like they score five runs and all of a sudden it's a one run game. It's like, hey, you know, we would have taken that extra base and maybe scored an insurance run, but you weren't holding us so we decided, oh, now we lost the game. That's part about it is that the Red Sox scored four runs in the ninth just two days earlier against the Yankees. And by the way, this is what he does is very dog whistle everybody knows that. Oh my god, it's crazy. And the flag is white down lebertar, yo, I'm not going to lie, Jenna dan Sassilo, I look good in red. This is the down lebertar show. We've got more silly awards to get to over the course of the show. I'm looking forward to doing that. Something I'm going to bring back though from literally years ago because I was actually thinking about this on vacation by myself and it made me burst out laughing at the thought of what it is. I'm about to say to you by myself a while ago, Howard Bryant revealed on this show that waking up one morning, he tore both hamstrings and the thing that made me laugh is I believe statistically, I can assemble an argument that that's the first time that's ever happened to a human being anywhere on earth. Think about the number of times that you in our audience have torn a hamstring. Now think of all the times in athletics where you've heard of somebody doing something athletic where they've torn both hamstrings. Now make it just waking up. And I'm saying that I don't believe it's ever happened before in the history of humans or in the history of hamstrings where someone has woken up and torn both hamstrings. Do you think that if you had to place a wager and be right as to whether or not that had happened a single other time to anyone else in the history of human beings, not running, not has someone torn both hamstrings doing something athletic, has someone ever torn both hamstrings waking up in the morning. Do you believe that has happened to anyone other than Howard Bryant? I think it's a very real chance that that has never happened before because if you dialed it back and said to me, has it ever happened that someone tore their hamstring just getting out of bed, I would have to think that may have never happened before. But then when you add both hamstrings, I think it's quite positive it's never happened. Has anyone in this room ever torn a hamstring? Have any of you torn a hamstring? I've had the feeling we're oh crap, I need to not play softball for a couple of weeks. But I don't know about tear. The answer is no. None of you, if you torn a hamstring, you'd know. And if the answer is no one in this room has ever torn a single hamstring. I now want you to imagine the tearing of both hamstrings just waking up and I defy you guys to make a to assemble an argument for that having happened to anybody in the history of earth before because I don't believe that anybody's torn a hamstring just waking up one hamstring. That has to be something that the statistical odds are a lunacy on. I'm vibing with what you're saying, Dan. Something fishy is going on here. What do you mean? He tore those hamstrings some other way. I mean, I'm with you. Who the hell could do both the hamstrings getting out of bed? Maybe he went for a jog and he was embarrassed. He was just running down the street and it just happened at the same time. That's so much worse. That's not getting sniped. That's not more embarrassed. That happened to me, I'd be like it. happened in bed I can't let him what happened when he got out of bed and he took like he's then just lying face down screaming what like what's the result he can't walk you know if you tear your hamstring you see like the basketball player like I'll limp it off he tore both he's just like face down yelling army crawl to the phone having trouble breathing because he's just face down in the pillow going at the same time Roy hit me listen up time to think fast is this a real or fake podcast welcome back down I've been saving this one for you thanks you know the game real or fake podcasts where I give you five podcast titles and you try to discern which ones real which ones fake first one up unguarded with Fred van bleet I'm gonna say no I'm gonna say that that's fake because Fred wouldn't want I'm a lot of Fred's in basketball or in sports for that matter or van bleets I'm gonna say that he wouldn't want something that suggests in the title that somehow he doesn't play any defense even though it's honesty that you're going for yeah I'm saying fake it's a terrible name that is a real podcast everybody unguarded with Fred Van bleet you know that unguarded can mean several things you know not just that's why he what means he's open that means he's open because he's not good yes orange slices with U.S. men's national team international heath peers orange slices no way with heath peers no way no he guess it unmorely abhorrent to promote orange slices with heath peers yeah it's real yeah yeah it's also a soccer thing yeah it's also a soccer thing it uh orange slices are something that they don't allow to the kids in soccer I'd say it's more of a soccer that's that's why it's called orange slices chasing number one with Jamar chase that's a pretty good title actually I don't think his name is chase he wears number one chasing number one he's one of the few people in sports that wears on his uniform something that suggests to the people behind him what it is they should be doing it's a verb on his uniform I was thinking about this yesterday with Jansen junk what a great name for somebody who doesn't strike anybody it's awesome just do the best I'm gonna say yes that's a podcast that's a real podcast is new just announce yesterday chasing number one try to think of another name in football that it would be you're talking about jammer quentin jammer okay and the West is history with David West I don't believe he does media like that David West doesn't what he didn't love and the West is history if he were doing a podcast we'd be doing a pun he doing it with a list like no touring his tough guy David West doing talks like Elmer Fud in his podcast and the West is history with David West I want it to be real yeah Jerry West hear me intro but you love him back to and the West is history the clever idea yeah and that's how he ends it but as they say the West is history it's just one of those one-minute podcast all right last one shut up and dribble with Delante West and Michael Beasley what a crew you gotta be kidding Mike there's no I mean shut up and dribble no Delante West can't be doing a podcast he's truly troubled so I thought it'd been because it's homeless unhoused oh no wait we can say home yeah we're good now yeah we're good guys for the first time in history I think this is both a real and fake podcast let me explain it was definitely announced that they were doing a podcast together called shut up and dribble which by the way is like the 17th podcast called shut up and dribble I believe Jamel Hill and Kerry champion had one called shut up and dribble it's a popular name but best I can tell this was announced several months ago in the spring there has not been an episode so it is both real and fake I mean Delante West has had real issues and you mentioned homelessness but I don't even put that at the top of the list like they're the people care about Delante West have really cared about him and and his mental frailties and so just the idea of that doing a podcast seems crazy we hope it's real let's just get into respect with it it can't be real well the West is history with Jerry West with Delante West would have made more sense to me than with David West date like I wait waiting notorious tough guy David like good subscribe right away and the worst is history what was the podcast as that this that this appeared on Jonathan coming turned down about three years 75 million dollars from the Golden State Warriors ends up signing with the Minnesota Timberwolves for two years twelve million and Aaron Turner had him on Aaron Turner is his agent yeah yeah and what was the podcast that Aaron Turner appeared on he appeared well he did like a PR tour yesterday this agent Aaron Turner because the Kamingo situation is everybody saying you got to fire agents you know you turned down so much money two years ago and now you just signed a deal for $12 million for two years like it agent fumbled the bag you know so this Aaron Turner he's going around he's doing a PR tour and one of the shows that he did yesterday to defend the contract and Kamingo's current status he went on the ringer podcast all right the Kevin O'Connor show is that still a ringer podcast I'm not sure it is anymore I always with Yahoo now yeah so like I said with Yahoo now the Kevin O'Connor show on Yahoo you're not your a Yahoo yeah and it's and you gotta listen to this intro okay you've never heard this is he's onboarding the guests here staring right at him yeah he's onboarding the guest you gotta hear this intro all right joining me now is NBA agent Aaron Turner Aaron how are you doing I'm good Kevin how you doing so Jonathan Kamingo just signed a two-year 12.4 million dollar deal Gilbert Arena's called at a Costco member deal Ty Lawson said pack your agent up immediately San Vesini called it malpractice Max Kellerman said you're hustling backwards it's been a busy weekend for you Aaron Turner how would Aaron Turner describe everything that's transpired this past year though answer not important welcome the show