Amanda Hirsch reflects on the Lindsay LaCrosse trial, expressing cautious empathy for the accused while critiquing the lack of thorough investigation and the reliance on a husband’s testimony. She stresses that the case lacks definitive proof and that guilt should not be assumed without due process. The episode shifts to a lighter tone, featuring comedian Jared Freed’s Netflix special *The Family Plan*, which humorously explores generational family dynamics, body image, and awkward parent-child interactions. Hirsch shares personal insights into her own journey with body image, wellness, and family, promoting GLP-1 medication, postpartum supplements, and health-tracking apps like Ladder and Superpower. She emphasizes the importance of transparency in health decisions and personal growth. The conversation also highlights stand-up comedy as a space for vulnerability and connection, where stories about family and self-doubt resonate deeply. The episode concludes with a nostalgic celebration of fall traditions—particularly pumpkin spice—offering a blend of humor, personal reflection, and wellness advice that underscores shared experiences of routine, self-care, and familial bonds.
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Welcome back to the Not Skinny But Not Fat podcast. I'm your host, Amanda Hirsch,
and I still can't believe that I get to chat with some of my favorite stars on my very own podcast,
where you'll feel like you're just talking shit with your best friends in your living room.
Hey, guys, and welcome to a new episode of Not Skinny But Not Fat. It's your girl,
Amanda. Happy Tuesday, if you're listening on a Tuesday. And happy week to anybody listening
on a later date. How's everybody been doing? I've been obsessing over the Lindsay Clancy trial. I'm
like, I hate my sister, Arielle. She's the one that brought me into it to this one fine day.
She was like, have you heard of this? And I was like, yeah, I heard, but I made a decision to not
get into it. You know, you try to protect yourself of things in this world. There's enough things out
there that drive us crazy and that eat away at our brains. And I was like, let me stay out of this
mom murdering her kid situation. But then she was telling me all these crazy facts, and I decided
I need to know more. I don't regret it because I think it brought out a lot of interesting points
and a lot of things to think about. Obviously, there's my world, which I like to keep kind of
like fact-based.
And pretty normal. And then there's the TikTok rabbit holes that I was trying to get my
information on TikTok at first. Silly me, because everyone was just conspiring and deciding that
the husband did it and, you know, coming up with their own form of the trial. And I was under the
impression that it was, you know, she's on trial for whether she did it kind of in cold blood and
intentional and all that.
Or did she do it, but she did it because she was in psychosis. And then it's like, you know, you don't go to jail. You would go to like a mental hospital or something like that. I don't know exactly. But now with the closing arguments coming in today, which I listened to the closing arguments for the prosecution and for the defense, I understood that there's kind of a third option. There's not guilty that she just didn't do it because the prosecution didn't prove it without a reasonable doubt, which I do agree that there's a third option.
I do agree that it wasn't really a proven case. I do agree that like Reddington said, no investigation was even made. It was kind of just decided that that's what happened because that's what Patrick said, which I do understand that that's tricky. I'm still not in the conspiracy theories that he planned this whole thing. He was the voice in her head. I do think, though, that we are basing her guilt on what he said happened and her admission on what he said happened, which is a crazy thing on its own. So like I said, the jury is now deliberating, which is just
crazy to me. I definitely want her to get the help that she needs. However, I do have in the back of my mind all the time that these three kids were freaking killed and in a horrific way. But because I can have multiple feelings at the same time, of course, I feel sorrow for her and for how much she screamed for help, how much she wanted to get help, how much she tried to get help. And I'm not necessarily at this point after, you know, listening to the trial saying,
that every medical person failed her. But I will say that, like, she didn't get better and she definitely, definitely tried to. And I personally feel like I blame more the people around her, like the fact that Patrick did live with her and she was going through all this, telling him she even had thoughts of harming the children. It's like, OK, well, peace out. I mean, I know he worked from home, but this should have been taken way more seriously by the journals that she was keeping, by the amount of doctors that she was going to.
This was a dire, dire situation that could have been prevented if it was taken seriously enough by the people around her. It's hard to make a judgment like that. But in a sharp turn to today's guest, which will bring light and levity and fun to our lives, this is somebody who was on the pod many times, friend of the pod, friend of mine. We kind of started at the same time. I find him hilarious.
His new Netflix special is hilarious. It's called The Family Plan. And he basically goes through what a vacation looks like with his very quirky family. It's Jared Freed. I have so much fun whenever Jared is on. And this time was no different. So, Polly Market, when you're asking, what will be the number two U.S. Netflix show this week, Beauty and Black season three or Outer Banks season five? I want to add Jared Freed's
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Don't forget to watch his special, The Family Plan, on Netflix. It's one hour of just pure giggles. Watch it with your partner. Watch it with your siblings. Watch it with your fam. It's a good one.
My whole new hour. So you watch this taping. We go. My whole new on the road is about my dad offering me his Ozempic at dinner. Wait, this is very not your brand to be on a GLP-1. What's my brand? My brand is body issues. I think anyone with body issues needs to be on a GLP-1. And how has it been for you? I love it. It's the best drug. Well, you lost a lot of weight. It's not even that. That's the weight thing gets overplayed. I think I've lost like 10. And I just I don't feel the pressure.
The pressure to like go to the gym if I ate wrong. Yeah. You know, the pressure to like, you know, to to if I eat one bisque off on a plane, the day is ruined. Well, this is what I always loved about you, because maybe it became a little bit more, you know, in the world that men deal with body image stuff, too. You know, Taylor Lautner came out talking about on Twilight. He was, you know, people expected a thousand abs after Twilight. Right. People are talking about a little bit more men.
I mean, but you were really always talking about it. And it was a little bit taboo. Well, yeah. You don't think a man overthinks a bisque off. You're like, oh, a man can eat a thousand bisque off and nothing will happen. I walked so Taylor Lautner could run. I've always said that. I love how you're like Lautner. Lautner. Is that how I mean? Now you're making me. I was always a Pattinson guy. I think you were. You were team team. Whatever. I loved Kristen Stewart's response that she's on a press tour as well.
Yeah. And has she been in here? You're like the Oprah now. You are. Do you? I feel good about your success. Do you have that with certain people? I have that with you. Do you? I really do. It means a lot because when I we did your podcast in your apartment. I'm very aware. I thought you were going to murder me. Yeah, I almost did. You came in grumpalicious, grumpy, coffee, coffee. It was like a New York. It wasn't like a Starbucks. It was like a deli coffee. Totally. Right. It was. If anyone wants to
picture it, it was Bethany Frankel apartment season one of Real Housewives of New York. It was totally Bethany Frankel going and doing skinny girl at farmers markets. Yeah, that was your apartment. And like you walk in. I don't know if it was like a raincoat. Like I know you don't smoke, but like you might as well have just smoke downstairs. Like it was that coffee cup from the movies. Yes. Of like you got it. Coffee. Yeah. But yeah. So we've been doing this for a while. Look at us now.
Together. Look at us now. This is it. Don't fucking hustling. Right. Truly. I mean, that's we were talking about it before we started like that. You're promoting your special and that it's on you. You watched it, right? I watched it. I was wanted to wait till air to tell you like I was. And I told Regina like I was cackling. That means the family plan on Netflix. It's on Netflix now as right now. Speak my my. It's an hour. Beautiful timing. Thank you. Love that. One hour jokes every 10 seconds for an hour. And I love it.
I love the way you tell. I love how you tell jokes because it is a story. And I don't know how you do it, but you like come back to the thing. So like my mom, ADHD, whatever TikTok wants to diagnose me with would never be able to come back. Well, that's that's the whole. So it's a one hour story about going to the beach with my parents. Yeah. It happened in 2018. My dad and I, my mom, my dad, my brother and I were at the beach. We are sitting in a circle as we do.
And my dad's staring at me and he asked me how much I weighed while we were sitting on the beach with our bathing suits on. And I was so mad about this. This is a true story in a beach chair. And I do the I show you I'm basically in a beach chair right now. If you're watching, this is not a proud angle for me. I and I it was a minute story. I was so mad at my dad for asking me how much I weigh at the beach randomly out of nowhere, randomly out of nowhere. And I went home. I podcasted about it. I got out of my system.
And I tried to tell it on stage. Yeah, generally, like, it kind of didn't work. People were like, Is your dad a dick?
like is he being why is he being a dick and then i was like well maybe i gotta explain my mom and
my dad and the fact that we vacation together and i'm 41 and i'm on the family plan and i
my parents you said 39 i'm 39 in the special but i'm 41 now it's been two fucking years two years
i taped it so this is the hustle and this is my ask of your audience i i love i did your live show
we share you know the people that follow us and go to our shows and you know get into this show
we share a a sensibility you know and i really do believe that and it makes me so happy and proud
but this special is for us it's anyone watching you will relate it is for you to watch with your
parents yeah with your cousin that you smoke weed with during thanksgiving it's a little it's a
little jewish coded well that's the point yeah yeah so is seinfeld yeah yeah seinfeld is a
jewish show without being jewish right and that's how i explain this is an episode of seinfeld so
if your parents like seinfeld i told people bring your parents to the show and the best
joy i have is to be able to watch the show and to be able to watch the show and to be able to
is someone in the crowd was like hitting their dad being like he's talking about you you asshole my
mom like i was thinking of sending them the the screener you said and i was like they'll just
watch it on netflix you know go explain to my mom put in the fucking password right now you know
what i mean you might this is my mom okay get us in the hulu get us in the hulu and then i go to
help them get into hulu and my mom goes he can't do anything he doesn't do anything he's got two
left foot thumbs he can't do a thing so they're just heckling me as i'm trying to help them
and i'm like this is no therapist would believe this wait can i ask you why you said in the special
that because it's true that millennial relationships with parents are weird they're
weird yeah it is we are the first generation that's going to do financially worse than our
parents just by the numbers so we are attached to our parents in a way that our parents were
never attached to their parents
so our relationship it's like you know boomers are confident no one's more confident than a
boomer and no one's more unaware than a boomer they're confident unaware and i envy it i wish
i was confident unaware millennials we have no confidence at all and we're aware of everything
we're aware of everything so what a bad combo and they're our parents and we have to deal with them
and we because they have the money they pay for the cell phone bill and you really are truly still
on their cell phone bill i i'm on the cell phone i'm in the
process of being kicked off really my dad's like enough enough enough we're moving yeah we're done
yeah and it's like listen i can pay for my own cell phone i'm not saying i can't it is just
it's the weirdest of the relationship you fly somewhere you text your parents landed like that's
weird that's true what cracked me up was when you were saying that we call that you're a walk
villain you're you're a fill-in for the walk like when our parents think we're calling them
for help but it's like no the help is i just want to hear someone on the phone
i just want to talk about myself right on the way somewhere right and then i'll hang up with you the
minute i get there and i won't feel bad which i would with a friend totally with a friend you'd
be like and how are you i have to ask how that with your parents you go but do you ever feel
bad because for me there are two things i feel bad about one if my mom like can tell oh you're
walking leo my dad dog walk company totally and two that i really don't really listen to her when
she talks no we are never alone we are never alone we are never alone we are never alone we are never
listening to them no i i you know when i feel bad my dad goes what am i cheap filler he calls
it cheap filler he goes i'm cheap filler you you're just trying to get me on the phone so i
can accompany you on this car ride you're on yeah no they they feel it they feel it but they'll take
it is the thing of course because they you know my parents all they want me to do is come home
when are you coming home when are you coming home and then i get there when are you leaving
when are you leaving how long are you here for enough what is what is wrong with us that we
can't i feel so bad is that there's is it that their stories are not interesting because i'll
be telling a story i could tell my mom tell me it sounds like your mom is the same way
about like my friends sisters friends sister yeah and she'll be invested eating it up eating
asking questions remembering but you said meanwhile she'll be like at work today i you know
misfiled something and i'll just be like wait what did you say yeah you're like mom i gotta go
i have kids like we can't focus on their stories because why because they're so like not in our
scope it's well their stories go in like crazy directions also their stories my parents they
always have like some part where they're just talking about their sickest friend like their
stories get sad they're like oh my god today i woke up late it's so hot out alan horowitz is
dying and you're like what this is horrifying at the pictures
at the get in take a picture take a picture these are all bits i'm so happy you like that i but it
happens a little bit right because you're saying everything happens everything how it's exaggerated
well every story i tell is true yeah i don't you know that's the i think the you know stand-up
comedy where the state of it all i'm there to tell stories about myself that someone goes
he's telling my story right i want someone to relate so much and it made me feel so good i did
the show in all the whole when you say it's jewish coded it's so funny i
did the whole show the whole country canada uh all of europe i went around europe i did the show
i had people in norway going that beach story was awesome oh my god how do you sell tickets in norway
the internet no but like you're you're counting on having a follower population in norway when i
went to europe and i do people buy comedy tickets no matter who's performing how does i was told
when i went to europe and did a tour they're like the first time it'll be someone that's an expat
in the country that knows your stuff that like forces a friend to come uh-huh and they were like
the next time you come those people will have fun and they'll tell the rest of the norwegians
that we got it too like that's what because i did norway denmark uh i did uh i went to berlin i did
london i london's easy london is like here belfast dublin copenhagen dublin dublin is that not like
i'm an idiot why did you say dublin dublin dublin dublin dublin
dublin was great i had a great time it's fun i like i like ireland i did it in australia new
zealand canada so you're so you have people in all these places that you do too they're they're
out here watching and listening right now and they are eating this up and the world just keeps
getting smaller and that was the cool part is that i would have people i take pictures after every show
a family that looked just like mine just being like oh my god we go to the beach and we talk
about how much we're going to eat and how fat we are too and it's like
like when i met your family at the live show i knew those people yeah yeah i knew your mom
i knew your husband i knew everyone before i met them didn't need like oh what's your name what do
you do didn't need any of that yeah yeah and that's like the beauty of it all i like it made
me feel fulfilled like i you know we did this whole thing and and and then you want it to be
somewhere i want it to be on netflix because i was like i can't tell my parents how to get on
netflix never mind youtube how am i gonna get someone to watch this so right now it's on netflix
and you know you're kind of a big deal big
big doll it's a big duel in dublin it is it is huge but i i want people to watch and share it
like for you you're like i'm looking for like a number one spot on netflix i want it i want it
more than anything because i love doing stand-up i love it i love that you watched it and you were
like the one story i i want to put i'm i think of stand-up like we do this we talk about pop
culture we i come here we hang out it's great it's great it's great it's great it's great
it's all for stand-up yeah that's the prize you get to do that if you do all this other stuff the
podcast the face to camera the tiktok that's what your love that's your love that's it i'm good at
it but aren't you sick of the touring i enjoy it i i would like the touring to be like i go i've
been the whole country i go to the atlanta airport and i play a game where i go to every gate i'm
like been there been there been there i see which one i haven't been to it's like very few i haven't
been to it's like very few i haven't been to it's like very few i haven't been to it's like very few
you know the the goal with this special is it for it to be number one and find more people like the
listeners who already know me you know i want the algorithm to go find people just like the people i
perform for all the time so that i can go and do 10 nights in 10 different cities with a worked
out hour and then tape the special at the end and then take a month off right i would love for that
i'm not there yet you know i i that's my you know that's my goal you know but we'll get there i'm
having fun enjoying it along the way like i love it i'm having fun enjoying it along the way like i
love doing i go to the comedy cellar and work on jokes and like wait how long have you been doing
it 16 years 16 years 16 stand up stand and then you did and then so stand up came first then kind
of instagram then podcast then podcast then i was writing online doing like i always i never had it
you know i never had anyone go you're the guy you know like i had friends who got to like you had to
push for yourself
when i was starting comedy a lot of friends of mine and people that i know well you know guy
code and girl code they were getting plucked up by mtv and i'm like i'm the most guy code guy there
is but it never happened for me that way i didn't get and then i i saw that quickly and i don't have
the confidence i'm i'm very you know when you have body issues you you hustle because you're like
you're like who would want me in my kleenex shaped body what mtv show would ever want
this broad-shouldered
thick man so I went and I would go and like you know I work with betches a lot right you know
betches I saw their audience and I was like those are like my sisters I get it girls yeah and I was
like so anytime I had a tweet I was posting tweets on Instagram I would send the tweet by doing me
too right you and I both you would tag bitches hope for a fucking tag we'll be right back after
the break I am always looking for something to do with my kids a little trip a row to get out of the
city and you know we usually end up going to the same places so I've been doing some research to
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What used to happen to you when you would write these things and like a place took it and didn't
drive me crazy. Again, it's my livelihood. And then it was so like dependent on that. Like that's
how you got kind of out there. It's like a bigger place took one of your things and tag deal. So
when you wouldn't get credit for it. No, it was very frustrating. I mean, like that would just
hurt me. Right. And the problem was you couldn't complain to anyone. No one. Oh,
your tweet got stolen. Like your friend with a baby would be like rocking their baby. Oh, really?
Your tweet got stolen? As they're like, yeah, I'm dealing with puke on my shirt.
Right. Do you feel so alone? I felt so alone. And well, betches, I got to know them. So I would text
them. I'd be like, this feels like a betchy tweet. And they'd be like, and what I love,
what I love about the betches is they've always been straight up with me. They'd be like, no,
not for us. Or they'd be like, oh, great. And then I get the bachelor screams. So then I would
yell at the bachelor on social media because I was like, here's my own show. Yeah. You know,
the people I perform for are generally like me. They're not like in the Reddit threads discussing
standup comedy beef. Like a lot of like Joe Rogan fans, they're like in it like it's professional
wrestling. Like I'm dealing with an audience that they got better things to do than worry
about my comedy career. They just want to be entertained. They want to be entertained. They
want to go out on a Saturday night with their husband or their boyfriend, and they want to just
like laugh and forget about the world for a minute. And that's why when I tell these stories,
like, you know, I'm telling a story about my
family that you can go like, I want people crying in the aisles. Like, I don't want to sit there and
change your mind. I want you to go. Yes, my mom, too. I love her, but fuck her. Yeah. And then my
parents, they came to the shows and they brought their friends and their friends are like, this is
unbelievable. So you talk shit about your parents in the special. It's all about. Right. Do they
are they flattered or are they offended? They love it because they know it's with love. Yeah.
And here's the thing. I brought them to the comedy.
So when I first started doing, I used to, you know, and when you first start comedy 16 years ago, the goal is be funny, just make people laugh. And the jokes not might not be you. When I got the first Netflix special, I like,
it gave me the confidence to like tell the story I wanted to tell and I started talking about
vacation with my parents and like you know a lot of comedians they go up with their sad tale you
know like their tragedy tale I don't got a tragic tale I grew up pretty well things are good yeah
my parents hugged me I went to Penn State I you know had a good bar mitzvah you know so like I
you know so I dug into that I'm like I am on the family plan I do vacation with my parents as an
adult it is weird and what I found from that is I found the people who related you know and I think
most people do it's a bigger audience than maybe I even believed was out there and I was at the
cellar I'm doing these bits about my mom my dad every night and I'm friends with the whole staff
there I used to host there every night so when you host I'm as much part of the management team as
yeah I work at the cellar and I go on I brought my parents and I put out the jump seats at the
cellar these seats that you can put out for like family and friends and they sit down and I go on
stage and I start doing and and the staff is like have they seen it yet like have your parents seen
I go they lived it what are you talking about yeah I go on stage I'm like yeah so my mom you know I
start telling the story about my mom and dad my mom stands up she's like no no that's not what
happened no and and I'm like I'm like yes it is because she has her own side of these same stories
and the audience is like what the fuck is happening right and they're like I'm like
that's my mom and the place like blows up you know like and it's it's so they get it they know that
I'm telling a story they're they were there right my my dad did ask me how much I weigh at the beach
I was horrified my dad does go off of bread randomly that was so funny the truth all of it
is true all of it is real I am on the family plan like I I just I think it's there's something I
when I do comedy now it's like I want to tell a story about me and I only want to make fun of
people I love or would stand to be in a room with the Rob Lowe bit though I'm waiting to meet him I
want to talk to him once he sees it was so funny because I feel like I've seen those commercials
you were talking about how Rob Lowe is the face of Atkins and I've seen those commercials and I
feel like I never you know we're so inundated with content and ads and whatever that you don't
overthink every single one and maybe I didn't feel like it pertained to me in that minute but
you saying that I'm like oh my god Rob Lowe is the face of Atkins he hasn't had a chubby
moment in his fucking life not one how did he what was that decision made
he would have sat on this couch that I'm sitting in right now and not thought twice about how he'd
look on camera I'm sitting here the whole time being like oh my god I look like a beanbag chair
on top of a beanbag chair I am gonna be in trouble you know yeah so that bit I actually
met him yeah so in the special I say that if I ever meet him I'm gonna say at them and then I
literally I did the bit on the road and then I go to California I'm at the Netflix is a joke
festival uh-huh I'm in the golf tournament he's there I was like I gotta talk to him did you I
go up to him I go Rob my name's Jared Freed I'm a stand-up comedian I've been doing a bit about you
for two years on the road and he goes the Atkins bit he goes I heard about it I heard it's hilarious
can't wait to see it stop and I was like I melted I was like yeah that's that I was like I immediately
liked him yeah you know I'm like thank you and again like I don't I'm not talking shit about Rob
Lowe to like right taken down right I'm just like that's annoying this is a guy who's had abs for 40
years no it's crazy and he's telling me to eat the Atkins cookies but you're part about the the
Collins to the Atkins there was a real commercial he would take in the commercial he would read
emails from Atkins people and I'm like who's writing to Rob Lowe no and like your your calls
oh yeah well then yeah I I just I did that bit on the road and I and it didn't do great and then
Michelle Wolfe who's a good friend of mine she I opened for her for like a year she's like that bit
you gotta keep like keep making it better kind of yeah work on it keep going on it like you're
on the right no that was so good and it fit again like it fit with the story because the story is
all about parents body issues generational body issues wild to me like you and I that's why we
get along right skinny but not fat is not skinny not skinny but not fat is like my that's my that's
why we would get along because not skinny but not fat like we share the same annoyance yeah like
like the I because we don't identify as being like you know tragic right you know but we're
also not like looking at a supermodel and being like oh I can't wait to wear the the the naked
toe shoes like you can't relate to the woman wearing the shoes that are half a shoe oh my god
do you know what I mean like in the same way that I wouldn't relate to a guy wearing
cuts t-shirts cuts t-shirts don't fit me you've tried I tried I was like a sausage casing it was
horrific and they they sent them to me for free and I had to be like enough they go maybe we'll
send you a triple xl I would die before I go into a triple xl but here's the thing that like
fascinates me about stand-up comedy is like because I've heard about this about kind of
like doing a bit and and until it gets good what is it called like tagging or
there's tagging a bit it's like putting like a you know putting a joke onto it a laugh
line but like you're really massaging a bit but that means you have to go up on stage for however
many times and for it to not be as good as it will be right and for it to not how does a person
handle that because how do you handle like because we talk about like your mom says you're a sensitive
boy right how does a sensitive boy get on the stage at points in your life and not get the laugh
or or have a
some empty seats like how do you deal with that the this is why I love stand-up so much there is a
large barrier to entry you know you might in your head think you have the joke but you don't have it
until you go on stage and do it and it's a it's a humbling thing you know Seinfeld has this line
about like when you meet a comedian you both have killed you both bombed and you both have like
a pad of paper and a pen in your pocket so you don't
I feel the same way about being Jewish as I do about being a stand-up comedian like
stand-ups if you do it you're like a family to me I know you on a certain level that's very different
and you can't really get too cocky if you're a stand-up comedian you can't because every night
if you're writing and you have a new bit you're just trying to figure it out it's a puzzle it's
a puzzle I love doing yeah and you go up and like right now I'm doing a bit right now about going to
a nutritionist and I'm on a GLP-1 and how a nutritionist like I've gone to like five in my
life and like I'm just trying to figure out all the times I went to a nutritionist and how hopeful
I was that the nutritionist would have this answer would change your life right how many times did I
go to a nutritionist thinking well they're going to give me a schedule that is truly going to fit
my life and make it all easy for me when really all I needed was you know illegally obtained
diabetes medication
my god
so that bit about going to nutrition and then I went and looked at my email I'm like let me go
find the snacks that the nutritionist sent to me and the snacks they sent to me are enraging
the idea that I'm going to eat a date a date I feel like is really high in sugar and carbs
where the you think I'm shopping where a fucking date is I don't care what's in the date
can I ask you something are you worried to get too skinny where you won't be funny anymore
I'll deal with that when it comes I'll deal let me let me just tell you that that's the
that's like when skinny you're a GLP one no no no but thank you you look right thank you I I the
worst part about now I'm seeing all the fraud skinny people that that's exactly when someone's
like you're you worried about the sugar in a date well yeah I'm not fucking worried if I'm eating a
date I got bigger problems if I'm still fat so like but how many times do I have uh skinny people
when you're on a GLP one are you worried about bone density issues fuck off fuck off bone density
of you we're gonna wait until the science comes back no no one ever cared when I had a cheeseburger
in each hand and I was chewing out of each hand and oh you worried about your health in 20 years
oh no you didn't care about me then who was I listening to somebody like ate through the
ozempic and that really makes me laugh that was Tracy Morgan Tracy Morgan said he ate through it
yeah which I get worried about that's the part about the ozempic is like people want to know
how much have you lost how much have you lost and I think the mindset it's given me the calm the
peace the pressure that's taken off of I went and did Jeff Lewis live that guy's great I did
his radio show I've done it and he does like a little hang before Carney Wilson was there
Carney Wilson turns to me and she goes you gotta try my biscoff cookie cake and it was a Monday
morning and I try and I was on a GLP one and I'm like I can't believe I'm having the most LA moment
I'm eating Carney Wilson's biscoff cookie cake like this is crazy I take a bite I have it I go it
was delicious and then I go thank you Carney Wilson I'm like I can't believe I'm having the
and you didn't overthink it didn't overthink it yeah if I wasn't on a GLP one I would have done
one of two things I would have said no I would have been a crazy person I would be like Carney
I'm sorry I had a bad weekend I gotta be good today I haven't gone to the gym in a week please
I'll eat it another time I'm sure it's good I'm sure it's good or I would have eaten it been like
thank you Carney Wilson and then gone on an eating binge that would have led to me being naked in an
alley covered in brown sugar because you fucked up already right because I fucked up already
now I'm free to eat as much as I want so it's like and now people are telling me I'm
cutting corners no I was fucking sick in the brain the GLP-1 saved my life it's funny I was
just telling my husband just in the eating thing that it's like because you know what it's like to
like struggle with weight in your life and and be on a diet basically your whole life it's not like
you're struggling and you're always overeating you're like mostly saying no to Carney Wilson's
fucking cake totally and having my mom in my head being like you're gonna have a Biscoff cake on a
Monday what's wrong with you so I was thinking about it the other day regular coke my husband
was like I'm getting like a sandwich do you want one I was like offended I was like do I eat
sandwiches right like am I eating sandwiches and then I thought like I might not look like somebody
who's like never eaten a sandwich but I'm not eating sandwiches totally you know what I mean
no I that's the thing that's what's frustrating it's like I I don't I'm like thinking about the
sugar in a date yet I don't know
look like somebody who's not who's thinking about the sugar in a date that's the hardest part
like I understand what you're saying intimately yeah like you're you're you're telling me to have
Wednesday bread are you out of your fucking mind I eat breads on Sundays and after I've had a drink
on a Saturday right right like I totally understand that mindset and when people don't understand it
you're like and you're like not only am I in this mind state but it doesn't look like I am that's
that's the most embarrassing part because you go oh
you know when I talk about I go to the gym and then you always have to apologize well but I know
I don't look like I'm a fat fuck I'm sorry you know it's like run clubs I had Adam Pally on
like a while ago and I remember he was I was like what's one thing people would be surprised about
you and he was like that I go to the gym every day and the shock on my face and he was like
and he was like you thought I was like a disgusting like slob right oh that's it is very funny it's
it's the hardest part
about having body issues is you talk about being sensitive I talk about being sensitive in this
special like you know when you have body issues you have great hearing you know you hear everything
right like you hear oh you don't think I go to the gym like Adam Pally is probably feeling the
same way right you know and it's like I have that with everything you know I I feel I have the sense
but sensitivity I think makes you a better comic like great comics are great listeners
and that's what makes you good is you hear when people don't laugh and you go that needs a fix
you know you hear when people do laugh you go go keep going with that you also mention it in the
thing yes which I feel like is a choice right like you in the uh while you're doing comedy you'll be
like okay you guys laughed at this that means that this you know what I mean you point it kind of out
in your special at least I feel discomfort from other people in a way that like I wish I could
explain I because I I when I hear a laugh that wants to go with me that doesn't my job is I
gotta figure that out and then maybe there's a joke there I don't know I don't know I don't know
because if people are I gotta if people go oh that's not a that's not a bomb that's me getting
information you know when you talk to someone and you can you know when people ask me like I I did
my brother's best man speech and it got like it got a lot of views and you know most important
most important thing happened thank god thank god I got views yeah he is he married still I don't
know uh so the video got like a lot of views and whatever and I you know
people are I get asked what do you do a best man speech uh the the thing is about best man or uh
maid of honor speech is like you you should always tell a story you've already told before because
you've already worked out the story yeah because you've told if you have a friend that thinks
highly enough of you to be a best man that means you have a story about them that you've told a
million times so you've already edited the story because you've told it in groups and you've seen
where people go start looking at their phone you've seen the parts where people start laughing
so you my job and especially in
stand-up is like I gotta make sure I listen for that all the time yeah yeah yeah where's the laugh
coming from I'm gonna repeat that where's the laugh not coming from okay never say that again
right that's why you have to make mistakes you know like you know sometimes they'll say things
and as the words are coming out I want to pull them and put them back in my mouth yeah you know
we'll be right back after the break can we talk about the fact that fall is basically here
I'm actually excited because I love fall I love a sweater
I love a jacket I love leather pants okay maybe leather pants are kind of out but I just love
getting dressed for fall it's so much more fun even though I've gotten comfortable with showing
the arms okay it was free the arm summer I'm excited for for fall fashion I love fall fashion
but also I love fall food and I love fall drinks okay summer is fun okay summer is vacation it's
no schedules kids staying up too late but I love fall and I love fall and I love fall
but by the end of August I'm like I need structure I need everyone back in school I need routine
I need a schedule and I need to know the date and there are certain things that immediately make me
feel like fall's here and I know some of us like to speed that up and we can't wait for pumpkin
spice okay and we're thinking about pumpkin spice since May okay but pumpkin spice is officially back
in fall and Starbucks pumpkin spice is back in fall and I love fall and I love fall and I love fall
is the first taste of fall okay it's the joy of returning to routine and comfort after a busy
hot summer that asks you to go go go let me tell you pumpkin spice frappuccino and pumpkin spice
lattes are the fall classics you know and love that are back for a limited time okay you deserve
to indulge a little and fall is a time to do that okay I am obsessed with Starbucks
frappuccino drinks in a bottle or in a can Starbucks double shot energy Starbucks chilled
okay all of that I love because I love drinks that are you know you could take them on the go
and I love that you can cap them okay if it's in a bottle you cap it right back up you could put
it in the fridge so you can have half now half later it's just everything I want okay the second
pumpkin spice comes back I'm in fall okay I don't care if it's still 85 degrees out I'm getting a
Starbucks frappuccino drink and I'm getting pumpkin spice okay Starbucks pumpkin spice is
just nostalgic at this point you taste it you're like okay we're back we're back sweater school
routine a little crispiness in there I am ready now that Starbucks has the bottled and canned
pumpkin spice drinks it's a fall moment without having to make a Starbucks run okay it's creamy
it's indulgent and it's a treat it's a treat with caffeine what better than a treat with caffeine
I keep them cold in the fridge so it's good to go when you want it it's something sweet it's
something coffee-y in the afternoon it's something you can offer guests in your house and they'll be
like oh my god I want to come back every day if this is what you have stocked in your fridge
they also have Starbucks chilled multi-serve pumpkin spice lattes which is perfect to have
in the fridge because you can literally pour yourself one whenever you want this might be
a little dangerous for me because if there's something in my fridge that requires zero effort
there's also Starbucks double shot energy pumpkin spice which is those days that you need a little
extra a little extra something okay you're back in a work mode you're running around all day and
you're like I need energy that one is way more coffee forward which I love and gives you that
added boost while still giving you the pumpkin spice moment there is something so comforting
about returning to your routines and your rituals and for me having that first pumpkin spice of the
year is one of those
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We can ask about your brother. You don't talk about him super often, but he's in your special.
He's on the family vacation with you. Yes. Your two brothers, my brother and I, my younger brother,
he's four years younger. He looks like the after picture in a GLP one commercial of me.
So if like, if we put us next to each other, you'd be like, Oh, Jared, well, he's never had
body issues. He's got, you know, it's generational. He's got, he's got the same thing we do. My mom,
my dad and I, we all have the same thing. He's a coach for the Chicago bears. Oh yeah. Yeah.
He is. I'm like, so proud of him. So happy for him. He was sleeping on my couch telling me he
wants to be an NFL GM. Oh my God. That was his, he was like, and he's on my couch and I'm doing
comedy and open mics six months in. I'm like, dude, there's too many dreams in this apartment.
You're going to get out of here. And I kicked him out and he ended up playing for the Israeli
national team lacrosse. And he, uh, ended up working at the league office and then making
his way into the coaching spot. And then he's now, uh, with the bears, uh,
working with Ben Johnson and he's on the headset during the game. So now I'm like this huge bears
fan. I never was before. And he's married and his wife is unbelievable. And she's a sports anchor.
And like, yeah, they're like all American, beautiful couple. Like what was it like?
Cause I have two boys. So obviously I'm like thinking about dynamic and how you are with your
mom, which like you are, you sound like a good son with all the jokes. It sounds like you're close with
your family. You talk about them a lot. You said in the special that you broke up a relationship
because the girlfriend wasn't getting along with your mom, which by the way, I think I remember.
Yeah. You were actually part of my, you, you, you, this isn't just a story, which is very
interesting. How bad was it? I mean, I read the Cobra and the Cobra in the special, but like
they were fighting. No, you know, I, it was uncomfortable for me, you know, as someone who
loves his mom.
Um, and are you a mama's boy? I get, I like my family. I like, you know, you want to keep going
on free vacation. Right. And I can have someone in the way of that. I like the fun of my family.
I like I'm calmed by the craziness, craziness. I love hanging with my family. And like,
there's a piece of loving your family and the dynamic that I didn't want to shake that up.
But if you were like in love with this girl, right. It's a, it's a, it's a, it wasn't the
only reason. No, there's never.
There's never one reason for generally there's never one reason for a breakup.
It just wasn't the dynamic I was looking for. And, you know, it's funny that gets talked down a lot.
You know, the guy, you know, mama's boy and all that. It has a bad, I don't know. It has a bad
connotation. I, you know, then, then you have the people on the mamas. Right. And my dream is for my
sons to be mama's boys forever. Right. That's the weird part is like, because then you get the
therapist. All of a sudden they use the word in mesh and suddenly they have a degree, you know,
and you're like, I don't know if you knew the dynamic of my family, they're considered,
but they're not, they're respected and considered, but they're not.
But how many vacations would you going? We're going this weekend. Yeah. Uh, the special is
going to come out and then I'm going to Lake Geneva with your family, with my parents and
my brother and his wife and my girlfriend. She's coming. By the way, you have a girlfriend.
The special new girlfriend that, well, we dated years ago and then I ended, I wasn't ready. And
then we got back together like within the last seven months, eight months. And, uh, I'm very
happy. Like I, you know, I couldn't be happier. I also stopped drinking. I went on a GLB. I haven't
drank since like a year and a half, like, uh, May, 2025. What was that? What made my dad and I went
golfing. We were, it was,
March. It was March. It was April. That was, I was going to take, I took a month off March, 2025.
My dad and I are playing golf and he's like, what would make you happier if you did it for a month?
And I was like, I knew, I was like, okay, Danny Tanner here. He's going to go into his story
about, you know, the music's turning on. And I go, I think if I stopped drinking for a month,
I'd be a lot happier. And he goes, well, there's your answer. Why don't you try it?
I was like, well, I have Rochester coming up and that's like, I got a drink in Rochester.
And then I'm like, and I got, uh,
I got Nashville coming up. I can really got to drink in Nashville. That's the most fun place
in the world. And I'm like, Oh, I hurt myself again. I'm a good listener. Yeah. I'm listening
to myself. I go, yeah, that's probably a bad thing. If the, the boring city you want to,
you need to drink in and the fun city you need to drink in. So I was like, let me see if I can
get a month. And my buddy's wedding was May 9th, 2025. So I was like, okay, if I get to the
wedding, then I'll drink at the wedding. And I generally did feel better. I generally, my sleep
was great. And I just was like, you know what? I'm going to keep going out to the wedding. I was with
best friends in the world. I didn't drink. I was having fun anyways. The only day I kind of missed
drinking at the wedding was like the Sunday after when we all got together and like, you know, had
lunch and, and, and kind of like, you know, we're hanging out, but I didn't really miss it that much.
I was, you know, I walked away from that being like, I'm okay. But are you like, I'm sober? No.
Okay. I didn't want to co-opt the space. I don't want to make that my, I don't want to put the
pressure on it. So I get a month and now a month later goes by, I'm back with my dad. He goes,
are you still not drinking? I was like, I'm still not drinking. I'm like, I'm still not drinking. I'm
like, yeah, I'm still, I kept it going. He goes, damn it. I thought I'd kill two birds with one
stone. I was like, what are you talking about? He goes, I thought if you'd stop drinking,
you'd lose some weight. And I'm like, how did I run into that feelings? Gut punch that I just got.
So you think it's a Jewish thing? The weight thing of the, the, the body stuff is it's gotta
be a Jewish thing. I mean, like that's something you hear from like grandmas and moms. I know it
everyone. Yeah. I do think it's just for us. You know what my mom used to say when we were little,
she would say that we're really healthy, you know? Right. And it's like, they're eating well.
That's like, tell they're healthy. Like meaning like we're not starving to death. Right. Well,
that's like, that's like, I think the Jewish part might be the, the jokery that goes with it. Like,
like to look at your kids who all are beautiful children and go, look at how healthy they are.
Shit. Right. Like it's like so mean, but also they don't, it's not mean it's like it's there's
weird love to that. And also all Jewish things, all Jewish events revolve around food. Yeah. So
that's the thing you're told to come over and pick out my mom. My mom now in her age and her
current state is now like on this thing where I'm like, you didn't eat breakfast. Like now I'm
anorexic. Well, because it's funny.
That's the problem with mom. Did you even eat breakfast? I'm like, mom, do you think I didn't
eat today? She's like, it's your head hurts because I know you, you didn't eat until dinner
time. And I'm like, you know, I eat. Right. Cause she's, this is her showing love because you're
big Hollywood Amanda now. And you're worried about, you know, in her mind, this is her
protecting you. Right. You're worried about being on camera. You're, you're hanging with
the Kardashians. You're, you know, all this stuff. And now it's, you're not eating. Now
you're like, I'm going to skip a meal. Right. You know, she knows that what would her insecurities
be? You know, her insecurities would be okay. I'm on camera. So now I got to look a certain way and
I'm going to skip a meal. Right. Right. Right. Parents are just, they're just putting their
stuff on you. The hardest part about parents is that they're always 10% right. Right. And the 10%
is what hurts because my dad looked at me in a beach chair when, how much do you weigh? And it's
like, I didn't sit, I wasn't sitting in the beach chair being like, well, what do you mean? I got
abs. I knew I had weight to lose. You cracked me up when you were like,
at the, we all do the last check in the mirror before we go to the beach. Everyone like, and
you're like, okay, okay. Well, it is what it is. I knew this special was the most Amanda Hirsch
voted special. I didn't send it to you for no reason. Yeah. I go to the beach and I have to
deal with what I brought. Yeah. And that's what it is. It is what it is. And the only thing you
didn't talk about what's that is getting out of the beach chair. That's when you don't even want
to acknowledge. Like, I don't want to like, do not send me the video of me getting out of this couch
that I'm sitting in right now. Those are angles that I'm not looking to see. Right. Like it's
like, it's like Facebook being like, Hey, remember 10 years ago? And you're like, ah, get out of
here. I was so skinny. Right. Like it's like Facebook. No, it cracked me up. But just in
general that you're a beach family that has body issues and doesn't like being in bathing suits.
Like, you know what I mean?
My dad used to wear a Speedo every time we went to the beach.
He was a big speedo, very European.
He would wear a tank top over a speedo winning the pooing all over the beach.
And like I grew up with like body issues, but like weirdly, no embarrassment of that.
You know, like I was watching my dad's balls just like wave around the beach.
And I was like, yeah, that's what dads do.
You know, a speedo.
I can't.
I there's a moment where I'm like, if I had the body, I would I would show it off.
Yeah, Mateo Lane, that guy's running around in a speedo all over Instagram.
I'm like, good for him.
Wait, the part that was most Amanda coded, which I had to mention, is the mom gasp.
By the way, I have it even before I was a mom and I've caused almost car accidents.
Yeah, no, it's the most annoying noise.
And it really is so true that the that we do could be somebody died or Kourtney Kardashian got a haircut.
Right.
Same.
Same.
The mom noise.
It's all happening.
It's like, I'll do that at home.
And my husband's like, what happened?
Right.
Is Lenny OK?
You know, did the kid, you know, and I'm like, I'm like, oh, no, no, no.
Just so and so commented on my post.
Right.
You wonder why men die before women.
That's why.
That's the stress women are putting on men.
He's.
Yeah.
Wait, you were talking about your boys.
Are you worried about them getting along?
No, I'm worried about having two boys.
This is all selfish, my love.
I'm just worried about having two boys.
Like, is that lame?
Like, does it feel like a big enough family?
Like, you're both you have a girlfriend.
Your brother is married.
But I mean, you do do vacations to get like in that sense.
I'm worried.
I think I'm thinking about it.
I think you're overthinking it.
But I would think the brotherly dynamic, the funny part.
Well, you're close.
We're very close.
We cheer for each other.
Yeah.
But we have a lot of the same interests.
And I think the one the thing about my family and the reason, like when I ended the last
relationship, you know, my brother, my dad.
My dad and I, we're all very similar.
We like to eat.
We like sports.
We like to make fun of each other.
Done.
That's it.
Yeah, that's it's pretty simple.
Yeah.
And then our mom is the only woman in the house.
Right.
So I'm sure over time that turns my mom into a monster.
Yeah.
Like, I'm I'm aware of that.
But also, that's what it is.
That's how you know, she's always the woman.
People would say the queen of the house, Jared, not the monster.
Queen to some, monster to others.
Yeah.
So but I it's the monster I love, you know, it's the monster that comes to me and makes
me, you know, it is a part of me and who I am.
So well, who do you call on the walks?
Your mom or dad?
Both depends on my mood.
I'm going to call my dad if I want to talk business.
I'm going to call my mom if I want to make someone laugh.
You know, laughs more.
She laughs sometimes if I can get her attention.
A lot of times my mom will pick up and be talking to someone else while picking up with
me. So it's like the most annoying call you've ever been on.
I'm like, I have to say, if you're not going to.
Talk to me.
I have to go like this and someone else in New York is like hearing me say that and you're
like, Mom, if you're not going to listen to me, I have to hang up.
And then someone else across the street on Sixth Avenue was like, I get it.
Well, tell me about the book you wrote because you were supposed to come on for that and
then didn't the walking red flag.
It's a dating advice.
Yeah, that is made to help anyone who's dating and feels that dating is like a heavy part
of their life to to laugh.
And I love that, too.
The taking the break.
Take a break.
I talk about taking a break and dating.
You got to take a break.
You've done it.
The dating advice, you know, dating advice online is pretty much fraudulent.
Like anywhere you're getting it from, it's either it's either pumping you with gas or
it's trying to enrage you.
So this book is really to get a reasonable guy, your brother.
Again, who am I to betches?
I'm like the older brother.
The book was personal stories, personal dating accounts to get you inside the mind.
Of the man you're dating.
And it's called Walking Red Flag because I'm the red flag.
All of your husbands were someone else's red flag.
They might be your red flag.
And I went on Good Morning America.
That was what was that?
I go on Good Morning America.
I'm like, I'm the red flag.
And then the woman's like, take one to no one.
I'm like, yeah, I'm not.
I am the red flag.
And I go, so are your husbands.
And they were like, no.
And I'm like, well, I disagree.
Like, you know, your husbands.
What hour of the day?
They just all of a sudden.
Hey, my husband.
I'm out.
Was that at like 5 a.m.?
It was 8 a.m.
And you were you were hot.
I was ready to go.
I was ready to go.
I was like, I was like kind of surprised.
I was like, I'm looking to talk about dating.
I'm again, I call it Walking Red Flag because I'm the red flag.
And then they got so like offended by that.
But I'm like, that's kind of the problem with dating advice.
It's married people who let you know my husband is a king who, you know,
has no problems and has never been a dick.
And then that kind of separates the men into.
Like kings who are married and garbage.
Do you like the trend?
That's like there's a trend that's like, oh,
things I left my husband to do when I like went on a work trip.
And then it's like none because I didn't marry a loser.
Oh, get out of here.
That's a loser.
That's yeah.
It's like there's a lot of in the female world.
And again, this is me from an as an outsider.
It seems as though a lot of your social credibility is gained through
how pristine your relationship is.
I don't find a relationship story with I don't think a relationship story
with no struggle or no is even interesting.
I don't even find that something to learn from.
If you got together and everything's been perfect, I don't even think
you're worth listening to.
Yeah, you're not a real story.
Me and my girlfriend, we, you know, I ended it because, and again, if you're
not, if you're giving advice without taking some sort of vulnerability, right?
Giving advice.
And again, the dating advice.
Yeah.
Giving advice that I give is really what would work on me.
Right.
But that takes, I have to sound kind of bad.
But also you're giving advice as a man to mostly women.
Yes.
Yeah.
And it's not advice.
It's more like, here's what would work on me.
Yeah.
Give it a shot.
And I can tell you how I felt in this same scenario.
And not a lot of women can tell you how I felt in this.
They can't.
I had my own feelings.
And the premise of the book is I'm 10% away from every guy you've ever dated.
The guy you're dating.
Is not a hundred percent different than me.
He's maybe 10 to the right, 10 to the left.
That's it.
Yeah.
And I'm saying, if I'm telling you, I felt sad, upset, indifferent.
It's probably a right around where your guy is at.
And, you know, again, the book doesn't make me sound like a prince.
And I, I, I'm kind of proud of that because the world is gray.
The people you date are gray.
The everyone's made mistakes and everyone has regrets.
And hopes to do better in the future.
Like, you know, I tell my girlfriend now, I wish I had the confidence to have stayed with in this.
I didn't have.
Yeah.
I didn't have the confidence.
I, I, and I'm okay with that.
That's about learning.
But I, I think if you're going to talk about dating and you're not, and you, if you're talking about dating and you're also a hero, you're not really helping.
You're helping yourself.
Right.
I'm the straight guy in a woman's world a lot of times.
Yeah.
Sometimes I have to like fight for people to see when people are.
When, when men are like the frauds, who are the grifters and who are the, the guys that I'm, and I'm here to tell you, Tyler Cameron could have cashed in become the bachelor.
Yeah.
He would have made 10 times more money had he gone in the direction of faking it.
Right.
Then being him, he has a moral code.
Yeah.
He, so that to me is a real guy because he could have been, he probably would have had 10 million.
More dollars in his bank account.
You're so right.
Had he gone into him for direction that wasn't true to him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I said that about like when Taylor Swift went out with Travis Kelsey, I was like, this is a perfect guy for her to go out with.
And I, you know, I was like, don't listen to anyone who says otherwise.
This is a tight end.
A football tight end is someone who catches passes and scores and also blocks for other people so they can score.
Who's more perfect for Taylor Swift, the most famous person in America than someone who.
Who can be the front person and be the, you know, the talent or be the blocker and stay out of the limelight.
Yeah.
Tyler, you know, Travis Kelsey fits that bill.
And a lot of times I think a lot of people get, if I get any anger online, which I don't, you know, I don't get a lot.
That's about GMA maybe.
Maybe GMA.
Well, it's when I'm trying to be truthful about men and it's disappointing for the women who have signed up for them.
Right.
To hear like those women on GMA, they're disappointed to have me poke.
They're disappointed to have me poke holes in the princess story they've been telling.
Right.
And I, and I'm not doing that for, because I want them.
I actually would love to do a whole podcast about what you think about different guys.
Another thing that before we go, because I know we're at time, but another thing I think about all the time, two more things that I think about all the time from you.
I know what you're going to say.
No.
Okay.
What?
Go ahead.
No, you, do you guess it?
Is it Peter's mom?
Yeah.
Bring him.
That was another thing where I had a good time.
I had a good opinion because I'm just a guy in a woman's world.
It was Pete pilot, Peter and his mom.
The whole premise of that whole season was her going.
Oh my God.
You guys went, Jared did this.
And I can't remember if it's our first pod ever together.
Second, I think it was.
I actually physically peed my pants.
It is because Barb, I think her name was, was to me, the star of that season.
Mother of two boys.
Shit. See, it's not good for you.
you're gonna become no babe so i don't know if i can between your mom and barb mother of two boys
it's tough for them to see they they're the the queen you know that is it is a tough dynamic but
it's also one that you know it's fun it's fun if you can figure it out yeah and i think it's
that's the thing when i did the bit in the special like i don't want to make it into like oh there
was this huge fight.
It was just,
I was like,
I don't know how to handle this.
Yeah.
You know,
and I think a lot of it
was my fault too.
You know,
definitely it was my fault.
You know,
if you're not 100%,
moms can feel that too.
Yeah.
You know,
and I think that's.
But listen,
there are a lot of stories
out there,
like about relationships
between mother-in-laws.
I mean,
I don't know how the girls
are always posting about it
because I'm like,
isn't the mother-in-law,
can't she see it?
But you hear more horror stories
than not about mother-in-law
and daughter bride.
What are you called?
The daughter-in-law,
mother-in-law.
No,
well,
it's because that's
an entertaining story.
Yeah.
No one wants to hear
about the mother-in-law
and daughter-in-law
who get along.
Right.
You know,
so I think that's part algorithm.
But I also,
I think it's a hard dynamic.
I don't think it's easy.
I don't envy when I,
you know,
going into a woman's family,
like if you're,
I generally like,
nice to meet you.
I'm having fun.
I keep my mouth shut.
I mean,
I go on podcasts
and they're probably listening
to this being like,
oh my God,
he sounds horrific.
I don't know.
But I don't know.
I think it's,
it's easier for a guy
coming into.
Yeah.
But I think it has to do
with the parents too.
I think for some reason,
for some reason,
a mom of a boy,
it's,
it's more that story
of like,
you have a son,
he's yours
until he belongs
to someone else
and that's ingrained
in the mom.
And then she becomes,
she becomes protective.
She doesn't want the wife
to take him away.
You know?
No,
I noticed it with like,
little things like,
you know,
decorating.
And it's like,
you know,
the home now with
your girlfriend is
you and the girlfriend.
Like,
it's not your taste.
Yeah.
And,
you know,
that's,
I think it's,
it's,
it's very funny
and interesting and hard.
Yeah.
And I do think it's also the,
a lot of what gets
underplayed in those
mother-in-law,
daughter-in-law stories
is,
how bad the son is
at being the referee.
At mediating the two.
Yeah.
Like,
cause I,
and I know when I talked about it
in the special,
like,
I,
I didn't know how to do it.
Yeah.
You know,
like,
I was like,
so,
and I say it,
no one cared.
And in the bit,
I talk about like,
no one cared about my mental health.
Yeah,
they don't give a fuck about me.
Yeah,
yeah,
yeah.
You know,
so,
but I'm excited to watch you
have two sons.
I think that is
hilarious.
Just on its own.
Just on its own.
And one other thing,
which has,
has to do with
your,
your special being out.
Everybody go watch it.
Please.
The family plan on Netflix.
As you once said,
and I can't remember
if it's cause I said,
like,
let me know when your show
in New York is.
I want to come support.
And then you
yelled or screamed
or made a bit about that.
Yeah.
You don't like
when people come to support
or watch to support.
How's that change?
Do you want people
to watch this special?
I'm going to make you
flip on your words.
You want them to watch
to support?
You're putting me
in a tough spot.
Well,
because I need their support
because I need them
to watch it.
Yeah.
I,
I'm so proud of the special
and I,
I'm proud of the,
the piece that I've made.
Yeah.
I think it's going to
make your day better.
It's really your best work.
Thank you.
I,
I,
that means the world to hear
and the support I want.
I,
I,
the problem with the word
support is people use it
to let you know
that they're doing you
a favor.
Right,
right,
right.
And so I don't,
I do need support.
I do need the,
the,
the NS,
BNF.
F audience.
Audience.
To support.
To support.
And the support I need
is for you to enjoy the special,
which seems like an easy thing
to ask for,
but also tell a friend.
Yeah.
Tell a,
tell,
and show it to your parents
because.
So are you flipping
on the support?
I'm flipping.
I'll flip for this.
I have to.
Flip for this.
Sell yourself.
I was wrong about support.
I'll sell it.
Sell out.
Please support me.
Okay.
Please.
And then you can say to me.
go watch The Family Plan.
It's so funny.
Thank you.
You know,
I related to it hard,
as you know,
and I'm sure you guys will too.
I can't wait for your mom to see it.
I can't wait.
I'll,
I'll story her cat killing
and she'll be like,
stop.
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Thank you for having me.
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Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The host reflects on the Lindsay LaCrosse trial, questioning the validity of relying on a single witness’s testimony and highlighting concerns about medical neglect and lack of investigation.
She emphasizes the complexity of assigning guilt, noting that the case lacks concrete proof and that the jury’s decision could reflect a third option: not guilty due to insufficient evidence.
The host expresses empathy for the accused while criticizing the failure of those around her—particularly her husband—to take her mental health crises seriously.
Jared Freed’s Netflix special *The Family Plan* is highlighted as a humorous, relatable exploration of family dynamics, especially generational body image and awkward parent-child interactions.
The episode blends personal stories with wellness recommendations, including GLP-1 medication, postpartum supplements, and apps like Ladder and Superpower for health monitoring.
A central theme is the normalization of body image struggles, with the host and guest both acknowledging that body issues are not just women’s or thinness-related but deeply personal and generational.
The host promotes stand-up comedy as an act of vulnerability and connection, where humor about family and self-doubt fosters real audience resonance.
The discussion ends with a celebration of fall traditions, including pumpkin spice, and a return to routine, reflecting on how small rituals bring comfort and structure.
Summary:
Amanda Hirsch reflects on the Lindsay LaCrosse trial, expressing cautious empathy for the accused while critiquing the lack of thorough investigation and the reliance on a husband’s testimony. She stresses that the case lacks definitive proof and that guilt should not be assumed without due process. The episode shifts to a lighter tone, featuring comedian Jared Freed’s Netflix special *The Family Plan*, which humorously explores generational family dynamics, body image, and awkward parent-child interactions.
Hirsch shares personal insights into her own journey with body image, wellness, and family, promoting GLP-1 medication, postpartum supplements, and health-tracking apps like Ladder and Superpower. She emphasizes the importance of transparency in health decisions and personal growth. The conversation also highlights stand-up comedy as a space for vulnerability and connection, where stories about family and self-doubt resonate deeply.
The episode concludes with a nostalgic celebration of fall traditions—particularly pumpkin spice—offering a blend of humor, personal reflection, and wellness advice that underscores shared experiences of routine, self-care, and familial bonds.
FAQs
The special is a humorous, storytelling-driven exploration of family dynamics, focusing on the quirky and often awkward relationships between a comedian and their parents during a vacation. It highlights generational body image issues and the absurdities of family interactions.
He refers to it as 'jewishly coded' because it's a lighthearted, relatable comedy that doesn't require being Jewish to enjoy, much like Seinfeld — a show that resonated with people without being explicitly about Jewish culture.
His dad randomly asked him how much he weighed while they were sitting in a beach chair, which made Jared feel embarrassed and uncomfortable, leading to a memorable story that became part of his stand-up routine.
He notes that millennials are financially dependent on their parents, often still on their cell phone bill, and struggle with communication, where parents’ stories are often unengaging or overly dramatic compared to their own.
She promotes the GLP-1 medication, highlighting how it reduced her body image pressure and allowed her to eat without guilt, especially in social situations like eating at a restaurant or traveling.
She recommends Knix, praising its leak-proof technology, comfort, and ability to provide full protection during heavy periods, with no need for additional pads or tampons.
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