Comedian James McCann joins TigerBelly to chat looksmaxxing, Korean saunas, Australian culture, the hierarchy of comedy, North Korea, Australian Idol, Adelaide Life, and directing a movie with Bobby.
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We have a new sidekick, Luke Bilton.
What's the last name?
Binko.
Binko.
I like Bilted.
I can, yeah, whatever.
I want to say what your real name is.
It's Luke Binko.
Luke Binko. Shy guy, huh?
Yeah, yeah.
Maybe.
You're a sweet little shy guy.
Sometimes.
Yeah, yeah.
Luke works at the Comedy Store. He's a door person, much like Ramsey once was.
Yeah.
Cat still is.
Yeah.
Right. It's a fine institution.
Number one.
Yeah. For, in terms of comedy institutions, it could be viewed as a Harvard or a. Yale.
Yale. Yeah, yeah.
Or a. You know, MIT.
Cambridge.
Yeah.
Hogwarts.
That's interesting.
Interesting.
You got a lot of. Your generation would go to Hogwarts.
Yeah.
Do you actually think that that's an actual school?
If you were a wizard, it'd be an actual school, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Would you go?
If I was. If I got one of the letters, yeah, I'd go.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
If I could.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I feel like an owl wouldn't deliver you. I feel like it would be, like, a pigeon or something.
Damn, he doesn't get an owl?
Yeah, he doesn't even get a full letter.
He gets, like, a post-it note.
Yeah, he gets one of those. Right on the eye of a pigeon.
It just says, I guess you're invited.
No.
Yeah, yeah.
You know what I mean?
No.
It just knocks its head on your window, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, and still, I don't think you would go.
No.
Is he here?
Not yet.
He was running by the way.
Okay.
But, yeah, I think you'd be. I think you have a Hogwarts-y face as a student.
Yeah, big time.
Okay.
Does he not?
He does, yeah.
Absolutely.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You look like a professor.
Well, thank you.
Yeah.
Yeah, a snake or something.
Snape.
You just called him a snake.
Is it Snape?
Professor Snape?
Professor Snape, yeah.
Like, you're not. You're in the dark arts.
I feel like this started positive and it got kind of. No, no, no, no.
You're not in the dark arts in the Hogwarts universe?
Yeah, I guess I would be.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Slytherin.
You're Slytherin.
No, I'm not Slytherin.
He's not white.
Yeah.
Slytherins are pretty. Are there black Slytherins?
I mean, the new. In the new one. The new Snape.
Yeah, the new Snape is black.
You think I'd be a D.E.I.?
Yeah, a D.E.I. Snape.
Yeah, okay.
I'd take it.
But you're definitely not somebody like, you know what I mean?
Like, alchemist teacher.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm the alchemist teacher.
And what would I teach, you think?
Like, dark powers.
Yeah.
Moving, transforming a cave into a fucking. It's always got to go.
A cave pussy.
So that a big creature could. Whatever.
Yeah, okay.
Like, just spells that, you know what I mean, wouldn't help anybody.
Certainly.
I mean, unless you were trying to. I'm going to turn this tree into a, like, you know, a tractor.
What?
Feels like that would be helpful.
Oh, that's true.
Yeah.
I'm going to turn this tree into a nuclear missile.
Okay.
Okay.
I knew it was going to get me.
Yeah, nuclear missile with certain colors on it.
Okay.
That represent a certain country.
What about that?
Okay.
What about that one?
I'm going to move on from this.
Okay.
Okay.
Why do you have a headache all of a sudden?
Oh, I don't know.
Why are you sweating so much?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't know.
I was thinking about something else.
Yeah, what were you thinking about?
Oh, I forget.
Are you scared that the Strait of Hormuz is closed?
No.
I mean, yeah, I guess.
No.
I don't know.
What?
I don't really.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know what I'm confused?
Is there literally just, like, a gate that they closed?
How is it closed?
Who's closing it?
Couldn't you just drive your boat through and it's like, okay.
Don't do it, brother.
Don't get Bobby going.
What do you mean?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know is the thesis of my argument.
Yeah, I know, but do you have Google?
I think so.
You don't look at it.
Well, I don't just spend my time being like, oh, is there a gate at the Strait of Hormuz?
Like a gate?
He thinks it's like a pearly gate that opens.
Oh, opens up.
Or like a toll road.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, it's just a gigantic, I don't know how many miles is that, 15-mile waterway.
Sounds right to me.
Yeah, but there's only, like, two miles of actual shipping lane.
Yeah.
Because a lot of the Strait of Hormuz is shallow.
Bobby's getting really into the Strait of Hormuz.
Yeah, you're tapped in, bro.
He's tapped in.
Yeah, but there's not an actual.
There's not an actual gate.
That'd be the biggest gate ever made.
Yeah, it would be.
Only the Chinese could do it.
How long is the actual Strait in its narrowest passage?
Yeah, that looks pretty big.
Yeah.
I don't think you could do a gate there.
I'm going to estimate right now.
90 to 104 miles.
I was going to exactly say that.
90 miles.
Yeah.
And then the width is varying from 24 to 60 miles.
Okay, and what are the shipping lanes' width?
No one Googles this.
Shipping lanes' width.
Okay, come on.
This is the most geopolitical people.
Yeah, I was getting in trouble for not Googling it myself.
Two miles.
That's what I said.
Did I not?
It's pretty close.
Yeah, I did say that.
Pretty close.
Bobby's tapped in.
Yeah.
I'm not tapped in.
I just know what's going on a little bit.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Your generation, what are you guys doing?
Coachella's.
We're at Coachella.
I went to Coachella.
We're looks maxing.
You're looks maxing.
Yeah, you were trying to explain to me that earlier.
What is it?
Yeah.
What is it?
Yeah, looks maxing is basically just to mathematically make yourself the most good looking that you
can through any means necessary.
Any means.
Are you doing that now?
I aspire.
I'm on my looks maxing journey as many people are.
You are?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm just at the beginning of my journey.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I hope to grow.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But you're cute.
Thank you.
I've been looks maxing.
No, but I think genetically you're cute.
Genetics are a big part of it.
So you don't have to do much on that end.
No.
Yeah, yeah.
I guess.
Is your mom hot?
I guess you'd have to.
Yeah, who is hot in your family?
The dad or mom?
Somebody asked me.
Yeah.
I guess you'd have to ask someone else.
No, in your opinion, I can say that.
In your opinion.
No, I can say this, okay?
That my mom, based on her earlier photos, especially in her 20s, was a pretty lady.
Yeah, I could see that.
Her face.
Yeah.
Yeah, body not great.
Dumpster fire.
But the face is good.
So can you, yeah, look at my mom.
Yeah, your mom is very attractive.
Yeah, she's attractive, okay?
Nice.
And that's me as a baby.
She was clearly looks maxing.
Yeah, looks maxing in there, right?
You can see her jaw line there is like a really pronounced, that's good.
That's good for looks maxing.
You still kind of look like that, Bobby.
That's crazy.
What are you trying to say, dog?
I'm saying like you, if you show me that,
and like not cut your mom out,
I would have guessed that was you.
Yeah, not Ronnie Chang?
No, no.
Okay.
That's a distinct Bobby Lee right there.
Okay.
Can you take that off, please?
I didn't even know that was on the internet.
So between your parents,
who do you think is the most attractive?
My mom
My mom I guess
Is a very lovely woman
She's a lovely woman
Yeah
Are they still together?
No
Okay
Single?
Your mom?
My mom is single yeah
How old is your mom?
She's older
She's like 62
Okay
Bobby's out
What do you mean?
I have a girlfriend
I know but even if you didn't
You'd be out
That's not true
That's insane
You'd date a 62 year old
I'd date Cher
I would date Cher
Cher is hot
I think Cher is hot
And she's an icon
Yeah yeah yeah
Madonna
Okay you're only
You're literally only
Celebrities
Yeah yeah yeah
You're only choosing famous
Hot women
Yeah yeah yeah
Who are people in their 60s?
Okay yeah
I mean these are all gorgeous
I want to just tell you right now
Lisa Rinna are you in?
Wait yeah
In
Wait
I'll just go through the phones
We don't have to say
Okay
Out
In
In
Out
Out
Out
In
Out
You're out on Edie Falco?
Yeah
That's crazy
Yeah yeah
Okay here we go
Okay
Okay okay
In
Out
Wow come on
Out
In
Okay
Out
In
Uh huh
Out
Okay
Out I think
I think
I think out
Yeah
Oh in for sure
For sure in
Out
Yeah
Yeah yeah
In
Okay
Out
In
No
Come on dude
Okay that's crazy
Is that Donald Duck?
In
In
In
If that's Donald Duck
In
Yeah yeah
How about you?
Let's go this row
Luke
Okay but I have a girlfriend
I know I have a girlfriend too
This is just
Older ladies if you were single
Yeah dude
You're not gonna actually date
Go in a row
No shh
What you don't think I could?
I think you could
Alright alright
Ready go
Wait so where are we starting?
I'll do 65
Okay go 65
Go 65
Okay Jane Lynch
She would
Don't say the names
Don't say names
You just go
Oh you don't say the names
We'll show the photos online
Say in a row
Okay
In
In
Uh
In I guess
I guess
In
I guess is an out
Yeah I'd say in
Second row
In
In in
I'd say in in
In in
All of them
Kill the swing
Wait really quick
Third row in
Wow
All the way in
Third row
Yeah dude I'm all in honestly
Wow
I like this guy
I like this guy a lot dude
Yeah yeah yeah
How about
Well go back to that next
The previous page
Ramsey
Okay
Were you in?
On on
All?
No absolutely not
Okay
Tell me yours
Out in
Out in
In
In
Out out
Wow
Very good
I'm an older man
I'm discerning
Yeah yeah yeah
What is this?
You just don't dream big enough bro
This is 67?
They look great for 67
They look great
Well I know one of them
So I can't even
Do that one
You've known multiple
No
I've seen few that you knew here
Alright so
No trust me
I only know one of them
On this list
Personally
Oh you mean on this one?
On this particular list
Okay got it
Try this list
This is seven year old
Okay okay
I can do this
I can do this perfectly
If you
I perfectly
Yeah perfectly get it
If you were gay
Okay
Okay and be honest
This is easy
This is so easy
Incredibly easy
In
Dub definitely
In
Definitely
Out
Yeah
Out
Really?
Whoa
In
It's just a look
In
Out
I got it
In
Out
I thought that was a
I give you
90% on that one
How can you be out on
William Dafoe dude?
He just
In the dark
Oh this is by lighting
Thinking about
In the dark
You know what I mean?
You know how your eyes
Get adjusted to the dark?
Yeah
And he wants to hook up
At four in the morning
You're not in
And he's like
This close to your face
And you wake up
It would freak you out
I think
Bobby
That was actually
A beautiful case
I think you'd go
Like that
Oh William
What's up?
Suck my dick
Apparently it's a huge dick
I did not
I did not know
I was going to be
Turned around so quickly
Well you have to know
Because we're in a relationship
And we're together
You know what I mean?
I'm picturing the red carpet
William Dafoe
Oh yeah yeah yeah
No you gotta think of
Regular
No makeup
Late night
It is regular clothing
Oh yeah
Morning breath
Yeah morning breath
Oh my god
That morning breath
Goblin like
Right?
He was a goblin
Just like a goblin
Yeah yeah
Okay okay
Alright so here we
Hold on
Alright so
This is 81
81
Let's do your list
Go Luke
On this one
Oh my god
Yeah yeah
Alright
Let's go Luke
Okay this is if I would make
Gay sex with him
If you would make
In a relationship with him
In a relationship
Yeah yeah yeah
Okay
Out
Yeah
In
Yeah
What do you mean?
Wow
Okay out
In
In
Out
Yeah
In
Yeah
So out
Yeah
So out
Yeah
So out
Last three words
So out
Yeah yeah
I think that's my list too
Yeah
How about you Ramsey?
I think I'm in
There we go
In
Yeah
In
Yeah
Out
Why?
I think there could be an abuse situation
No
I'm going to
I could
Alright let me just say this right now
Let me just say this right now
Please
And you just
Offended me to the biggest
Degree
I do
No one can offend
I do apologize
Know him
Okay
Alright
He's been sober forever
That's good
Right
He's helped more people
Probably than
Anyone I ever know
Right
He's a good man
I'm sure he's a good man
Right
And I think
I think you
I think you said no
Right
And I'm going to say this out loud
I think you both of you said no
Right
Because of racism
You said I agree with my list though
After I said it
You did say I agree with you
I agree to his list
No he wasn't
No I didn't
Want me to edit it out?
I'll edit it out
What?
I didn't say
I didn't even know
That was Edward James Olmos
I didn't read it
Oh really did you read it?
I'm out with Edward James Olmos
Yeah
Okay
Go back to telling us
How we're racist
Yeah
After you confused
Okay anyway
Yeah
But I agree
The last three
Completely out
You know
I think Michael Douglas
I mean just
Yeah
Legend
Just for the stories
The stories
The stories of Gary though
Yeah
I'm with you on Gary by the way
I might go yes on Gary
Yeah
These are too old
Can we go a little younger
With the guys?
Yeah that's 81
Let's go to 75
Where's James McCann at?
Perfect timing
Thank you
Perfect
Thank God
Thank God
What's up James?
Hello I'm so very high
Nice to meet you
What's good there?
Hello
Am I going here?
Yeah right there
We got water for you
Oh please
Honor and respect is all mine
All mine
All mine
Sit down please
Oh if I may
Yeah
Oh
You may not
You may
I mean
Hi
My friend Ruby
Ruby
Who is Ruby to you?
Ruby
Ruby is a comedian
She's in the festival
She's a dear friend
What do you mean?
She's different in what way?
Oh dear friend
Sorry not different
Oh yeah yeah
Oh dear friend
What does that mean?
Dear friend
Friends maybe
Yeah
That they're dear
A dear friend
Okay
Is it a platonic relationship?
Yes
Oh
Thumbs up
Good for you
James is a married man
Are you really married James?
Yes
Why is that funny?
Your sentence structure
Are you really married?
I don't mind
Yeah
It's a hard thing
In this business
To be married
Not a lot
Yeah not a lot
I've never been married
Yeah
Yeah yeah yeah
Yeah yeah
That's how Koreans
You know what I mean?
I well
Because we put in the
Heart
I've seen this
Yeah yeah yeah
I've heard about this
Yeah yeah yeah
I went to a Korean sauna recently
For the first time
Yes
And um
Yeah I thought it would be
An odd sexual vibe
Because of the nudity
Yeah yeah yeah
And it kind of was
No no no
Wait wait wait
No no no
Look at me right now dude
Yeah
No look
Which one was it?
Because I'm an expert in
I was at Houston
I was at Houston
See I don't know
The Houston spa
Korean spa scene
Very cool with black people
A lot of black people
Oh yeah yeah yeah
The Houston Korean spa
In the Wii spa here in LA
Yeah
A lot of black people
A lot of black people
Right
And a lot of Korean people
And the Korean men
Are always like
Hiding their penis
No the black penises
Were out and about
Yeah I know
But the Koreans
Because of the size
Differential
Yeah
Right they go
They do that
Yeah
White so
You being a white
It's odd
It's odd
So there's two types
I don't know if you like this Luke
Okay
I can't say this about you
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So there's two types.
I don't know if you like this, Luke.
Okay.
I can't say this about you,
because Persians. I'm not Persian.
He's not Persian.
I'm Palestinian, but all right.
Kind of on the other side of the whole thing.
Are Persians Arabs?
No, they're not.
No, but they're Palestinian?
Yeah, we're Arab.
But there are Arabs who say they're not.
Yeah.
They'll say they're Phoenician or something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And what's that about?
I don't know.
You're going to have to pick it up with them.
Yeah, but what is it about?
We'll deep dive into it maybe later.
We've got to do it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But when I said Persian, I apologize.
It's okay.
Yeah, and I forgive you.
But I was f***ing close.
Pretty close, dude.
Was I not f***ing close?
Pretty close.
Like when people go, are you Japanese?
I don't get offended.
I'm like, you're f***ing close.
I think you'd get offended.
Yeah, yeah.
Like you're white.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
I am.
But you're an Australian white, an island white.
That is true.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I feel like the minorities in America are nicer to me
than they are to the conventional whites.
Oh, I think I agree with you.
I think I get in easier with black people,
et cetera, because of the historical context, I think.
Yeah.
I think this is James Baldwin going to Paris.
You're nodding along like you really know what I'm talking about.
Yeah, I get it.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I agree with you.
Yeah, that's true.
Is that true?
That people are nicer to James because he's Australian?
I think I definitely don't experience that.
As a traditional white, I don't think I experience that.
Oh, you don't?
Yeah.
You think that you're treated,
you're treated equally amongst all of the immigrant or ethnic groups?
No.
You do.
So are there ethnic groups that you feel uncomfortable
and they treat you differently?
Ooh.
I'd love to hear this.
Yeah, we'd love to hear this.
I guess I might feel out of place, but I let them shine.
I go, hey, you guys, this is your, this is your.
Oh.
And I'm just here to, I'm going to listen and learn.
Like shine, like put a spotlight.
We'll put your tuxedo on, do a tap dance, shine.
No.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
See, they always want them performing.
Yeah, no, no.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, no, no.
Yeah, you throw them a basketball, do something.
Yeah, people, people.
You're on his side.
You're looking at me.
This is what you're talking about.
Yeah.
James gets to meet, right?
We're on the same boat.
I know where my bridge butted.
I know how to get to the other boat.
Come on, me too, bro.
You do?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I know where it's buttering, bro.
All right, dude.
What are you looking at?
I'm looking all around.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This is a lot to look at.
So, James.
Thanks for having me.
Thanks for being here.
I can't wait, and I couldn't wait.
Well, look, I'm happy to do it.
I think Santino's having me on in two.
I don't know why I couldn't do the one with you two together,
and we save everybody time, but I'm happy to do them separately.
I know I've got to work my way up to have you in the same room together.
Well, that's, you know, that's unfortunately.
I'm being gatekept.
No, no, no, no.
That's unfortunately the wrong way to think about it.
Okay.
There's two things.
I wanted to address the spa thing, but I'll address this first
and then I will go back to the spa because my mind works that way.
Okay.
Number one, we rarely have guests.
Okay.
Bad friends.
Yes.
Yeah.
Both our podcasts, individual podcasts, are guest-driven.
Yes.
Right?
So that's why you're doing probably.
Have you done Whiskey Ginger yet?
I have not.
But you're doing it soon?
And I might also say this.
There are about, I think it's odd that there are about five podcasts
in all of Los Angeles, and between the two of you,
you've got three of them.
Yes.
It's a little odd.
Yeah.
It's odd.
Yeah, yeah.
But what I'm saying to you is that once you do both,
and then you'll do, do you understand?
Hey, I'm just happy to be here.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It sounds like you're not.
If this is where it ended, it would have been a great day.
It's never going to end.
You and I are never going to end.
Can we go back to the spa?
Okay.
Okay.
There was a man who followed me around.
No, that's what I was going to say.
And there was a cold, there was a hot pool with some sort of root in it.
Explain the root.
It was some sort of, it was a beautiful smell.
It was sort of murky.
It helped the back unlock or something.
Then there was a cold one, and the man would walk over.
He walked, followed me from the hot into the cold, talking to me.
And he would stand up, and he would sort of dip his penis,
because it came up to just mid-thigh level.
Yes.
And while talking to me, hands on hips,
and he was just dipping his penis into the cold.
Yes.
Yes, talking to me.
Age?
Asian guy or black guy?
White guy.
White guy.
Yeah.
One of the only other whites there.
Yeah.
He was dipping his.
So you've never dipped your penis in and out like that?
Alone would be one thing.
Oh, I see.
Mid-conversation.
In public.
I did find that to be unusual.
That is unusual.
He was very friendly.
I agree.
Very friendly guy.
But I have done my dips.
Of course.
And you've got to do about 20, 25 a day.
Totally.
Yeah, alone.
Hot or cold water?
I do both.
You do both.
Yeah, every temperature.
Yeah, yeah.
Because I do the dips to make it stronger.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It circulates the.
Yes.
What I love is the room afterwards.
Is it called the Jojo Bar?
I don't know what it was called.
It had a space.
It had a special name.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There was this whole room where apparently you're just allowed to go and hang out for
as long as you want.
Yeah, that's what it is.
And fall asleep if you want.
Yeah, you can sleep there.
And there are people who, they stay there for hours.
They spend the night there.
Yeah, they do.
This is a high trust.
It's a high trust situation.
I love it.
Well, there's lockers.
Yeah.
So at the Wii Spa, you can spend the night.
There are lockers.
There is an area where you can sleep, right?
In fact, all the spas have it in Koreatown.
And you pay a little extra for an overnight stay.
Interesting.
Yeah, so it's a good way.
You would have to have a vehicle.
And it costs about $60 or $70.
Okay.
I mean, that's cheaper than a hotel.
Yeah, it is cheaper than a hotel.
I would rather do that, too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But what I was going to ask you about in terms of spa is me as a free American citizen slash
Korean person, okay?
And also just, you know, I'm sort of like a Beatles song.
Okay.
If I may say.
Sure.
I fly.
And so just let me finish, okay?
I fly, right?
I fly naked.
And so when I'm at the spa, I go fully nude, right?
And I see a lot of half of the white people, they cover themselves up with either shorts
or a towel when they're in the steam room in the dry sauna.
And I was going to ask you, what kind are you?
Oh.
Oh, I was dick out.
Yes!
Dick out!
No, my dear friend.
Come on, everyone, dick out!
Very important.
Very important.
I could tell that it would be cowardly to cover the penis.
It's cowardly.
It draws more attention to your penis than everyone else's by covering it.
Great point.
Exactly.
Like there's something you're hiding.
Yeah.
But my friend Eve lived in Korea.
She's a Jewish woman from New York, but she lived in Korea for a long time.
She opens for me.
She insisted we go whenever there's a Korean spa on the road.
She goes, we're going to the Korean spa.
Yeah.
And she goes up.
I didn't realize that, first of all, the lady, they have an area, but she was telling me
in Korea that there will sometimes be a more overt sexual, she said there was, she was
once at a Korean spa and there was a very old Korean lady there in Korea pushing up
against one of the jets and having a. Orgasm.
Yes.
Yeah.
But this was considered to be a little unusual, but okay.
It seems unusual, yeah.
Well, can I tell, can I reveal a story to you then?
Please, please.
My father caught me because my, my parents' bathroom was, it was, it was, it was, it was
bathroom, the bathtub.
had a strong faucet.
Like, it just came out like a waterfall.
Yeah.
Niagara, specifically.
Thank you.
Okay.
And so, I thought he was at work.
And so, I was naked.
I came home from school, and I got naked.
And it was so powerful that just putting your penis, right, on it, right,
would make you erect.
Yeah.
It felt very good, my friend.
Of course.
Yeah, yeah.
You're a young boy when you're doing this.
I'm 14, and you know what I mean?
Yeah.
And I'm discovering sexuality.
Of course.
And there's tingly sensations around there, as you know.
This is very common, I think, for young girls.
There are a few stories.
There are a few stories about boys getting their dick in a faucet.
Yeah, yeah.
And I want to share, right?
Yeah, yeah.
I'm trying to share the other.
Perspective.
Yeah, the other gender also.
And so, I got fully erect in there.
And I would be able to just have an orgasm.
Just by the strength of the faucet water.
And then, one day, I hear a laugh.
Oh.
And I turn around.
My dad had come home early.
And even before his death, we never talked about it.
Yeah, I feel like that, yeah.
It was never mentioned, but there was definitely,
and my dad saw me with an erection.
And he goes, go get up.
I took the fucking towel.
And I ran out of there.
And we never discussed it.
But anyway, back to the show.
Our guest, James McCann.
James McCann.
Give him a round of applause.
All right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm sure we all have a story like that we can share now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, wait.
Yeah, let's go down the line.
Luke, do you have, when you, coming of age.
I do have a story, actually.
Should I say it?
Yeah, that's why he asked you.
Right.
Yeah, yeah.
Whoa, whoa.
Sorry, sorry.
You're a sidekick, too?
Sidekicks don't talk to other sidekicks.
You're right.
That was, I apologize.
I didn't mean that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I think, just a side note, right?
Your ego's getting in the way.
It's not my ego.
Luke is just my good friend.
I've known Luke for a long time.
I understand it, but just take the ego away.
You're right.
You're right.
I apologize.
Go ahead, Luke.
Sorry about that, Luke.
Right.
And I'm sorry, as well.
No, there's no need to apologize, Luke.
This is your first time on the show.
Affirmative.
Strip enterprise.
I'm not Jean-Luc Picard.
I don't know what affirmative means.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Anyway.
Great show, by the way.
Anyway, yes, go ahead.
That's not the character I thought you were going to ask.
We'll move on.
We'll move on.
My neighbor, when we were in, like, he was in, like, fifth grade.
I was in, like, fourth grade or something.
He was a little older.
We watched Transformers together, the movie.
Transformers movie, if you're aware.
Megan Fox.
Yeah.
And he said, hey, check this out.
If you Google Megan Fox naked, it actually comes up on Google.
Yeah.
So then every day we would go to his house and on his family computer,
Google, like, Megan Fox naked and kind of just sit next to each other in awe.
And then one day he had a housekeeper who, like, walked up the stairs
and she saw us Googling it.
Yeah.
And we physically were, she was, like, trying to get to the computer
and we were physically, like, restraining her, trying to get her away from it.
Yeah.
And she discovered it and told us.
She told everyone's parents and it was only brought up at a barbecue once
by the dads who said, hey, you know, I get it, honestly.
Good response.
Really good, yeah, response.
I think it's something that is just better unsaid.
Yeah, yeah.
If I was your father, I would never even bring it up.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, it wasn't my naked, erect penis, but yeah.
Similar kind of story.
You know, it's the same kind of embarrassment.
Yes, yeah.
There was an embarrassment there.
Yes, there was.
Yes, there was.
Yes, there was.
In Persia.
I mean, in, I apologize.
Prince of Persia.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, where the dunes are.
Yeah.
I want to say it in a way where I'm not offensive.
It feels like.
You know, where the barrens, you know what I mean, of dune.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
How would you explain it?
You don't have to do this, James.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
In Palestine.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I grew up here.
Oh, you grew up here in Orange County.
Yeah.
That's right.
So, I don't even have to do anything.
Do you think this is a problem for the Persians in general, is that they're having a revolution,
you know, they're trying.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But then all the people who looked good in bikinis and liked liberal democracy and the
Shah and this, they already came here and they're having a nice time in San Diego.
Yeah.
Yeah, Irvine.
Yeah.
Dancing.
Dancing, yeah.
And none of them are getting strapped and going back over.
Yeah.
I'm not saying they should, but how long can you have?
How long until the people in the country start to resemble that which the regime would want?
Cuba, for example, gets rid of everybody with a little upward mobility, a sense of themselves
being able to do something.
Yeah, yeah.
So, you actually finally get a communist population.
Yes.
I think the people, I mean, North Korea, do they actually love it?
You would know better than I.
What do you mean that I would know better?
Well, it's just been going on for so long.
Yeah, yeah.
And so many people with a personality type who go, this is, I can't tolerate this anymore.
Yeah, yeah.
But people who might love marching or discipline would just over time, the population starts
to resemble what the regime wants them to be.
I know.
I always say that.
Well, that's a very interesting point there, right?
That when you're used to, you know what I mean, it could make life easier.
Get through the first couple of years of the revolution.
Yeah, yeah.
I think it's like, all right, I have to go to this government job.
Yeah.
Right?
I know I'm going to eat the same meal.
Same meal.
Right?
Same place.
Some sort of animal.
Yeah.
I don't know what animals are up there.
Sheep.
Or some like black, you know what I mean, pigeon or something.
Okay, good.
Yeah, I don't know what they have.
I think you paused at black.
Yeah.
No, I didn't.
I said, I was trying to figure out what bird.
A yellow pigeon.
If that's going to be better for the, you know what I mean?
It will be.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
We appreciate it.
And, you know, they know, you know, weekends, right?
It's going to be.
Some, maybe a walk through a park.
Yeah.
And that's the, when you're inundated with technology and Grand Theft Auto and Project
Hail Mary.
Yes.
Zins.
And zins.
Fucking Hail Mary.
Yeah.
And constant, you know what I mean?
Celsius.
What?
Celsius energy drink.
Or sugar-free Red Bull like I drink.
You know, et cetera, et cetera.
The Chalamets.
Yeah, yeah.
The whole family is what I meant.
Uh-huh.
You're inundated with all this stuff, right?
Maybe it's a simpler life to just do, and then you have one wife, because there's no
porn.
Of course.
So you think that once she shows like even half a titty, right, you're like, oh my God.
Yeah.
Right?
And it's like.
The pornography I do worry about.
What do you mean?
You think they have it in North Korea?
I mean, I read some story about like they, they went to fight in Ukraine or something.
To help the Russians.
And they got the internet for the first time.
The North Koreans?
And yes.
And then the internet kind of broke.
Because they were just in such huge numbers.
Going crazy.
Getting around the porno.
That's what I heard.
Yeah.
That's very interesting.
Amos Gill told me that.
Yeah, yeah.
Imagine being a North Korean soldier.
Yeah.
You're 24 years old.
You may never even seen a vagina in your life.
Just imagine.
No, no, no.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I want everyone to put.
I like what you're doing right now.
You're thinking.
Yeah.
Okay.
Put your eyes up in the sky and think.
Yeah, yeah.
Everyone think, right?
Imagine 24, never seen any anatomy of a female person.
Okay.
Then you go to the war.
Yes.
There's bullets being shot at you.
Yes.
You're probably not eating a lot.
Right.
Sleeping conditions are bad.
But you get free Wi-Fi.
Okay.
Right.
And now, I don't know, can't do a Ukrainian accent, but I'll try.
Please.
Excuse me.
You must.
Wait, wait.
Why are you doing buck teeth?
I don't know.
You must look at the phone, Harper.
Right?
This is what.
It's a record playing backwards.
Yeah.
You must.
You must.
Check out the phone, Harper.
Right?
And then.
What is up?
Right?
And then, right.
That was a better accent.
Very good.
Right?
Right?
And then go.
Yeah.
And then go.
www.phonehub.com.
Right.
Whatever.
Right?
And then.
Yeah.
And then they see everything.
Oh.
Imagine.
Two girls, one cup.
They're looking at all.
The classics.
Look at the.
Well, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Debbie does Dallas.
Oh, a hundred.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Nobody subsides them.
Bang bus.
So North Korean soldiers get internet access in Ukraine.
Clooked on porn.
That's insane.
That's absolutely insane.
I'm actually kind of jealous of them.
Like that they get the experience.
It's all bad at once.
You know?
No, I'm not.
Because it gets taken away when they go home.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Have you seen the, have you seen the Egan?
He's a comedian who's in Japan at the moment.
Who's, have you seen the clip where he teaches everybody the word Guna?
Oh.
I love you.
Have you seen this clip?
I'm friends with Egan.
You've seen that clip?
Yeah.
He's got.
Stop, stop.
I don't know the word Guna.
So I'll tell you something.
Yes.
I'm an Arsenal fan.
Congratulations.
Thank you.
I know where this is going.
Right.
They call Arsenal fans Guners.
Yeah.
And so my, my cat.
His name is.
Is gooner.
Right.
Right?
So all I know is a gooner is a good thing, right?
But I think there's a different definition.
Yeah.
And I swear to God on my mother's life, she's still alive,
that I don't know what the other definition is.
And I don't even know if I want to know.
No, let's move on.
Let's move on.
No, I want to know.
Go ahead.
I want to learn, and I'm learning today.
Go ahead.
I like this.
I think it's a young man who spends a lot of time masturbating
and thinking about what to masturbate about.
Okay, no, no.
It's way more than that.
Okay, I don't know.
It's a younger generation.
Is it not doom-scrolling pornography?
That could be considered modern gooning, but the original.
What the heck are they doing now?
I like the history of goonings.
Real old-school gooning is when you have multiple screens of porn
playing all the time.
So you'll have a goon cave.
Similar to this, where we are right now.
This is not a goon cave.
It could be, though.
Why, why?
If you had a lot of pornography up, and instead of all these. He doesn't.
I don't.
But if you did. Seems the operative changed.
It's like a separate room where you could create a. This could be a museum if you had Rembrandt and, you know what I mean,
Picasso on the wall.
I mean, like, you could go on and on.
It's like, what the fuck are you talking about?
This could be a bathroom if you put a toilet paper in it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And, yeah, you basically watch, like,
a lot of multiple screens
and a lot of high volume of pornography
for a long period of time.
So with gooning comes, like, edging,
where you're edging yourself,
where you're masturbating yourself for, you know, hours.
What happened to just coming?
I know, I know.
How old are you?
Oh, 30-something, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, you won't say that name.
Oh, I don't. Actually, I don't know.
35, maybe 35.
Okay, maybe 35.
36, I don't know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You really don't know?
I was born in 91.
What's the year?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You don't care.
It ceased to be. Yeah.
A huge part of my life, yeah.
Yeah, I'm 54.
Well, no, I would be keeping track then,
because you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Every day is just. So I'm 54, and when you turn. Once you turn 50, you start counting the days.
Wow.
When people die, you go,
how old were they when they died?
Yeah.
And then you go, how did they die?
And then you kind of, like, do the math.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, so I ultimately have maybe 22 years left.
I think you're going to live longer than that.
Unless AI technology catches up and helps me medically,
you know what I mean?
But. How's your digestive system?
I just had a colonoscopy.
How is it?
No polyps, no cancer.
Come on.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
So I'm good on that.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't know.
I haven't checked my breasts or my shoulders or anything like that,
but you know what I mean?
I don't know if that. You're relatively slim.
Your knees, you can make it up and down these hills, okay?
You go for walks.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I can hill walk.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm just discovering that now.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm hill walking at the moment.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's very special.
It's really. And it is.
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I see a lot of happy, rich, nice people.
Yeah, yes.
It's a very nice neighborhood.
I don't know what's happening down in the plains, and I don't much care to.
Yeah.
I'm enjoying this.
When you say plains, what do you mean?
The greater flat.
The Hollywood flat.
The Los Angeles flat.
Where those movies came.
Yeah.
Like Color.
I didn't know it was called Skid Row.
You mean, or. It's called Skid Row.
That's its real name.
Skid Row, yeah.
I thought that was a derogatory expression.
They actually called it Skid Row.
Yeah.
Have you been there?
No, I realized I came very close.
Because it was at Union Station.
And then we went to a Chinatown, and I just missed it.
But I'd like to go.
There's a Chinatown and a little Japan town there.
I saw a little Japan.
Yeah, yeah.
And I'll tell you what.
I didn't see. A lot of Mexicans.
I think they're lying.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But you know what?
It drives me crazy when people are like, from out of the state.
Look at LA.
Yeah.
It's in the dirt, and they just show Skid Row.
And I'm like, yeah, I've never even been there.
Like, I wouldn't even be able to even know.
Like, if somebody was like, hey, let's go check out Skid Row.
I wouldn't be able to even tell them where to go, really, specifically.
It makes people feel really good to talk LA.
Not that there aren't things to talk down about LA.
But people would always tell me Malibu was on fire.
It's all been destroyed.
I went to Malibu.
Yeah.
Some things got destroyed.
It's still a really nice place to go.
It's a nice place.
It's a nice place to go.
They have a fish and chip shop there.
It was world class.
I bought the hoodie.
Yeah.
I rented a boogie board, a body board.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I know what that is.
I had a great time.
I'm from Southern California.
I know what body boarding is.
I loved it.
You loved it.
Yeah.
Also, San Diego.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, you seem like a, and I don't want you to take offense to this.
I'd get ready.
No, I wouldn't get ready.
And it's not an offensive thing.
I think it's a good thing, right?
But you look like a Peter Jackson white.
Like a creative, you know what I mean?
A really talented.
I'm thinking about shaving it all off.
No, no, no.
No, no, don't.
It might be time.
No, no, no.
You look like a director.
Yeah, I see.
You look like you're a very creative person.
Yeah.
You look like you're, I've never met you before.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You seem introspective, and you seem brighter than Shane, and brighter than.
I see.
I know.
McCusker.
McCusker.
And I believe, now I know.
That's why we.
No, no, no.
No, just in.
No, don't pop off.
You'll start a war.
You'll make, you'll say something.
You'll say something about Austin.
You'll make me defend Austin.
We'll get a big fight.
I know what I've been brought into now.
You start with a compliment.
You start with all positive.
Let's talk about the hot springs of Korea.
No, no, no.
No war.
No war.
No war.
No war.
I love it.
Why come here and say nice things about Los Angeles?
I was kidding.
You're great.
Yeah, yeah.
You're a wonderful person.
You're a wonderful and very talented person.
That's all I'm trying to say.
I'm not starting a war.
I love all those guys.
I was kidding.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it's like, you know, I think that Gillis, now I get it.
You and McCusker, you guys pod together.
we have podded you have podded together i've been on podcasts with them are you a regular on that
podcast i don't i wouldn't i don't know regular i've done it five or six times i've enjoyed doing
it yeah yeah i like doing it yeah yeah yeah yeah but um i would say i've seen i'm in that universe
you're in that universe cinematic universe yeah yeah yeah you're in the if it was a marvel
that's how this country i've realized that's how this it's all tribes and clans and
it's very it's interesting i'm very happy to be here i feel blessed to be brought in
just australia but it's very yeah i see everything is what you're saying i see you're saying everything
is try and there's this guy and that it's marvel versus dc you know it's yes yes it's you know in
the nfl they have uh you know coaching trees yes i see this with people's openers and yes yes oh
he's a soda guy that's part of the soda lineage yeah yeah yeah crime families crime family there's
the burr people and the louis people they're not the same people they're not the same people i'm
out i think it's all one big happy no no very discreet yeah but there are treasonous folk
absolutely yeah there's treasonous folk and there are also kings and emperors and there's also
peasants right and there's also it's it's very games of thronesy okay but at the end of the day
all hail to the king yeah absolutely okay who is you know yeah yeah all hail to the king for now
yeah okay and so i'm just bobby who akbar no no no no i i'm just a little you know i mean i have i i'm
in charge of a little village uh-huh i am you know off the coast off the coast you know what i mean
i hear the rumblings what happens in the kingdom right but it's none of my business yeah okay and
i know who's in play what you're in the hermit kingdom over here yeah yeah i'm in the hermit
kingdom yeah yeah but i'm still a part of the royal class okay and so are you i mean how much
of it comes down to a new york la divide to begin with because austin is definitely a break off of
the la thing and new york thing a little bit too people have dribbled out yeah new york but
overwhelmingly it's it's an la really la yeah yeah i mean in game of thrones yeah have you
seen the show uh isn't it yes but it disappeared from the cultural imagination real quickly not
from bobby's not from mine i talk about every week yeah yeah yeah i still talk about lower
what are you gonna do never really came what then when is winter i thought there was gonna be a big
thing yeah oh winter yeah oh so you're saying winter's coming oh oh so you're saying the austin
people are the white walkers it's not what i'm is that what you're saying potentially the homeless
yeah yeah i don't know where i would put them actually yeah yeah might be dawn yeah yeah yeah
yeah i think they are because there are people there there are big names they're big they're big
names big names but not a threat yeah they have to join alliances yeah or they think exactly don't
you think they couldn't stand on their they can't stand on their own no no they can't win the war
vanderbilt being their team is interesting you know what does that mean always sort of in the
conversation never going all the way yeah yeah i don't know what vanderbilt means it's isn't that
their college football team they all wear the v yeah you see them always with a v theo always
with the v oh i see it's it but it's all i mean i like nashville a lot yeah and they're doing it
they're trying you know and why not low tax nice place to live have you thought i thought about
moving there like really you know me and andrew have thought about moving to three different
places national austin was one of the best places to live in nashville i've been there for a long time
one of them yeah vegas is one of them i think phoenix and then a nashville too so there's four
wow yeah yeah like literally buying houses and moving out of la can't see you in nashville
why uh just a race thing i guess i don't know if there's a lot of asians
that's incredible that you're yeah i just didn't know on the boat again i'm fishing on the boat
again what do you think of that good i'm all right
i like it i mean i would be a hit you'd be a huge hit in nashville we got a big asian population
in australia and we had uh you know we had australian idol you got american idol i know
that's really american idol though you would have um they would have the goofy person the
silly person who's never really going to make it through right the william hung would be like a big
yes we but we had so many asian people who were making their dream come true yeah yeah
were they good no
some of them some of them yeah the first winner of the first season was guy sebastian yeah yeah
asian fella asian fella but uh have you seen um i feel like i've been liby dibby dauchu
liby dibby dauchu is someone in i think a philippines version of it's like philippines
are ken lee oh yeah yeah liby dibby dauchu yeah i've seen that so beautiful but the philippines
per capita have the best singers okay sounds right the world should be furious with that
i know but i'm telling you right now have you seen
why they say eight welsh people and they're all tom jones oh that's right that's right that's right
yeah tom jones you think the philippines the philippines per capita are the most talented
gilbert yeah are the most talented people interesting i've ever seen in my life it's just
there's just no way to make it sure right because it's so impoverished they're at in sections yeah
you know i mean and i've been there many times i love the islands yeah i'm one of them if if i may
say you know what i mean yeah yeah because i had sex with one for 10 years sure yeah yeah so um
that gets you cred that gives me a lot of credit you become one i know the smells i know that you
know what i mean textures yeah you know what i mean skin textures you know what i mean food
etc etc okay et we just et'd it loves a touch what i love touching but you say the most talented
yeah in the world i i would have i would argue yes
i because i've been there and i and i every time i'm there i do the bobby lee talent show
i've done it twice you get to do shows in the philippines no what i do is this i go i'm in town
and i'm going to do a talent show singing dancing that's me that's in the philippines that's in the
philippines i don't know why he wears a full suit yeah yeah yeah yeah the top bobby lee's
talent extravaganza right and i invite the whole island to compete and every it gets packed
yeah and people are doing all kinds lighting themselves on fire yeah yeah crazy crazy the
craziest acts you've ever seen what do they do you record it i do record them yeah yeah i don't put
them online but they're just for me what yeah yeah you just watch them at home by yourself no i just
like to watch talent from all over the world you know i mean because i'm a man of the people but
you would only do it in the philippines yeah i only do it yeah on one island cebu okay yeah yeah
and they all come out and they oh my god one guy took put baby powder in his mouth and blew him and
put shapes oh that's with baby baby powder which i never thought you could even do you look so sad
yeah because i'm sad when i'm there it's a lot of stress because i'm like is anyone going to
compete is anyone coming sure i take it personally and people cry when they lose like teams yeah
people like dance crews they cry when they lose well this is a show what do you mean this is a
that's uh you gotta get that i taped it as a show i try to pitch it and no one bought it
what's so funny oh i don't know what the i don't know i i i think that's people should have bought
it bobby what do they win stop sorry what the fuck do you mean dude no i'm i'm let's just say
this okay james you know this you take a big risk you can fly
all the way over there you get the camera people you tape it you cut it together and you you go to
all the networks netflix everyone you pitch it and they all say no and i call that trying
yeah you did a good that's a good yeah what the fuck have you ever done
okay that's what it's called maybe concert movie if you get that into a 90 minute version
a concert instead add to con yeah yeah yeah south by southwest that might really maybe
film it myself yes yeah you attach james as the director no no visually i see what you're saying
it's not a skill that i have it's not a skill you have yeah we'll find out i mean yeah i think you
do just based on your look and i worry yeah yeah on your look i worry that you need a level of
attentiveness to direct yeah yeah do you like film yes i do yeah yeah i just found out that
quentin tarantino has a cinema here yeah he does i just found out yeah he does have a cinema yeah
and it's in los feliz right yeah yeah yeah we were just there yeah yeah it's not there are so
many australians in los feliz there are beautiful jacaranda trees yeah yeah yeah what's what can i
let me ask you something what's up with the didgeridoo thank you well if a woman i've always
i've always women aren't to play it it makes them barren apparently oh because of all the wind that
you must use out of your body to get that thing to i don't know the detail i don't know the fine
i know that's real but i've never heard the didgeridoo
do and where that i'm gonna you have like start a band and have a guy be the jackal oh no there's
some good ones there's some good dig tracks out there oh there are and that's why i wanted you on
here why treat me
I think there's a dig in that.
Gee, I'd hope so.
Yeah, yeah.
Sometimes when you're just. It's Celtic.
It's primal.
When it comes in. Tell me how you feel.
A deep. It's not used as much in Australia because people get offended or whatever.
But I would think that. Why would they get?
You know, they. What?
No, I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know about the region.
Tell me.
Aboriginal people get very, you know, very. What are you doing with that?
Didgeridoo, that sort of thing.
That's the idea.
Oh, when the white people do the didgeridoo.
Yeah.
Right, didgeridoo.
Yeah.
The Aborigines get offended.
Well, even saying Aborigine, people get real mad at you.
What would I call you then?
Aboriginal.
Aboriginal people.
Explain to me why that's. One's fine and one's not.
Yeah, yeah.
Can't do it.
I don't know.
Yeah, I don't know either.
And something that. Well, maybe chat GPT or something we could discover.
Yeah, spend. Yeah, yeah.
Hours arguing with chat GPT about Aboriginal people.
You know?
Hours.
Hours.
Are you friends with any Aboriginal people?
Yes, I am.
Yeah, I bet you are.
Yeah.
Hello, Craig.
Hello, Craig.
And others.
Lots of others.
Yeah, lots of others.
Yeah.
What's up with the quokka?
Okay.
Only in Western Australia.
Yeah, I've seen it.
Yeah.
Alive.
What's up with it?
I have been to Western Australia a lot of times.
I've never made it out to see a quokka.
I never went to the island.
That's insane.
I never did.
I went.
I did the gigs.
I went home.
Oh, no.
I went to the quokka.
How was it?
And let me tell you about the quokka.
Okay.
Cute.
I mean, that's just. You know what a quokka is?
It's the part of the bird where they pee and poop out of the same hole.
I've never even heard that of that.
No, no.
It's an animal.
It's a cloaca.
Yeah.
That's a cloaca.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This is a quokka.
Yeah, cute.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah, there's a resemblance there.
Of what?
It kind of looks like you, honestly.
It has your. Wow.
Okay.
That was bold that you said that.
I'm cute.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, no, it's cute.
Yeah, that's good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, they love them over there.
Yeah, and I have to say, out of all the creatures I've met on Earth, that's my favorite one.
That's a good one.
Pretty beautiful.
Yeah.
It's unbelievable to me as an Australian that you've not gone to the island to see the
most friendliest creature on planet Earth.
Everybody else always got to do it, but I would. Pass.
The dates would never line up.
I'd be there for the festival, and they'd go, on Sunday, we're going out.
I'd go, I'm flying out Sunday morning.
Oh, so what part of Australia are you from?
I'm from Adelaide.
Oh, Adelaide.
I'm from the middle of the bottom.
We don't have a good concert hall for people.
I played it.
We had the entertainment center.
Yeah, we did that, I think.
It was acoustically rough.
It was rough.
No disrespect, but it's rough.
Yeah.
And the Thebeden Theater, which is. Thebeden Theater, which is 2000.
That's the biggest, best one we've got.
That's the one we did.
That's better.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But boy, we could use this Hollywood Bowl.
Yes.
We could have a Hollywood Bowl.
Yeah, but. A Greek. Build it into the hills, because we've got the hills.
I find the LA Hills really remind me of the Adelaide Hills.
Then how did you start comedy?
In Adelaide?
Well, just in. There's open mics.
You don't start out in the 2000s.
You would know this about comedy.
You know this.
It takes time to get to that point.
But there are open mics, isn't there?
There are open mics.
There are open mics in the 2000s.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But no, I was there for a while.
But is the scene in Adelaide. I'm sorry, because I don't know much about it.
Please, please, yeah.
May I?
Yeah.
Okay, good.
What question would you like to ask?
I would love to ask a question.
I would like to hear it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Is it as brutal as it is?
Because I know. Did you start here?
I started in Orange County, but yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You started here.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's brutal.
The worst.
It's competitive.
There's no audiences.
No audiences.
A zillion comedians.
Brutal.
Yeah.
That's what I. Because I started in San Diego for three years.
A little better, but still kind of brutal.
Yeah.
Is it brutal in Adelaide?
There's always room to play in a greater extent, I felt.
Then you could go out to the bigger cities.
But I found this about San Diego.
I thought this because I thought. Derek Poston was from San Diego.
And Hassan Ahmad was a San Diegoan.
Yeah.
And yourself.
And I thought, for where it is geographically,
that must be one of the best Cedar cities in America for comedy
because you go off to L.A., you try and make it.
Yeah.
And when it's hot. When it's hot in L.A., you know, rather than going,
fuck it, I'm moving back to Ohio.
You just go, I'll go see mum for the weekend.
Yeah, yes.
I'll drive down to San Diego.
Yeah.
I'll go to La Jolla.
Yeah, yeah.
I'll swim.
Well, I'll try again next time.
Yeah.
There's not a make or. You can just go back, hang out, catch the train.
Beautiful train.
Yeah, beautiful.
Beautiful train.
Beautiful train.
Beautiful train.
And Adelaide was good.
We got a big fringe festival, so that was nice.
There was a lot of stage time during the festival.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then difficult the rest of the year to get everybody else in.
Yeah, yeah.
I think it suffers from the same thing that every, you know,
million to two million city gets with a comedy scene
is it gets really, really good.
There's like 15, 20 people who are doing great.
They all go.
And then it fucking crashes.
But then there's a new generation.
Then there's a new generation.
But now with the internet, you know,
people aren't doing the comedy circuit as much.
Wow.
They just go and they do that.
Or they bring their own openness, you know.
It used to be a thing.
There would be a guy come to town and everyone would get to open for him.
Oh, wow, wow, wow, yeah.
I mean, I'm a part of that problem.
I don't like working.
I don't like the people from the town.
Well, my problem with it is that, you know,
I want, you know what I mean, like-minded openers.
Okay.
So I bring this fucking guy, you know what I mean?
And I bring Cat Bird.
I brought him once, right?
Yeah.
So it's like I know them.
I can hang out with them.
Yeah.
Because what happens, because I was at a point for like maybe 12 years
where I couldn't afford to bring an opener so that I'd have to go to a town
and there'd be two locals opening for me.
Yeah.
And that's when, you know what I mean, it wasn't that fun
because sometimes you'll just have a guy, like this one MC,
I was in Houston and his first line to me was,
I think I've said this before, his first line to me was,
yo, I'm not going to tell you like-
Interesting.
Okay.
Yeah.
We got the yo.
This is what he said, but he's not necessarily what you think he is.
Okay.
He's a yo man.
Bro.
Hey, what's up?
What's up?
I go, what's going on?
He's like, yeah, yeah.
I'd be like, I'm a headliner.
I go, oh, you're a headliner?
Yeah, but I don't even know why I'm open for you.
That's crazy.
That's his opening line.
That's so crazy.
And I go, oh, well, then why did you do it?
He's just like, time's tough.
You go, but I'm a headliner.
I go, well, who do I care?
Yeah.
Just do the host, right?
He does 40 minutes up front.
Oh, my God.
And it's all the dirtiest jokes ever, right?
So then after the show, I come up to him.
I go, yo, what's up, man?
Because, you know, I'm regular.
You know, whatever.
He's like, what, what?
I go, I mean, you're supposed to do 10, 15 minutes up front.
And it's a little too dirty.
And he go, I, right?
And I go, second show, he goes dirtier and he does longer.
Oh, no.
This is Friday night, right?
At the end of the second show, I walk right up to him.
I go, you're fired.
Yeah.
And he couldn't believe it.
He couldn't believe it?
No, he couldn't.
No, because it's like, at that time, I wasn't a name.
I was kind of climbing up.
Sure.
But still, I just went up to the manager.
I go, I can't have a host doing, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
Dirty jokes, you know, 40 minutes up front.
And that man was Patrice.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
If it was Patrice, I would go, you close.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'll open and I'll do 10 minutes.
What are you talking about?
You're a legend.
This guy had.
It's insane.
No, it's insane.
It's insane.
Because also, they give you the most senior guy in the town.
Yeah, yeah.
What you want is not the guy who's been doing it for 15 years.
Yes.
Full of hate and despair.
You want someone coming up who's going to do something else for their life.
But they don't give it to that guy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They give it to the guy who goes, I've seen a lot of guys come through here.
Yeah, yeah.
There you go.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Here's the.
You guys don't know this particularly, but I think James and I know, right?
Is that in every city, in every town, there are people that have been doing comedy for
20 plus years and they never move.
Sure.
Right?
And these are the ones that open for you.
Right?
And there is a bitterness.
Yeah.
Right?
Like, I shouldn't be.
I shouldn't be here.
I don't give a fuck about this.
There's.
I had one guy introduce me as Billy Lee.
Like, he didn't even bother to memorize my name.
Yo, man.
Billy Lee.
There's a lot of yo.
Yo, a lot of yo.
Every guy yo.
What do you mean?
There's a through line.
Seems like.
No.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Let me do it again.
Do a British accent.
Do a British accent.
Hello.
Oh.
Nice audience.
Please welcome.
All about life.
Is that better?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then I come out.
Oh, no.
I said Bobby Lee.
Yeah.
Please welcome Bella.
Yeah.
Right.
And then I have to go up on stage.
My name is Bobby.
It's not good.
It's not good.
It's not good.
Already.
You're in the weeds.
Yeah.
When you have to say, my name is actually Bob.
You're already in the weeds.
Yeah.
You're fucked.
You're fucked.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Over and over again.
Over and over again.
Yeah.
So now we bring our own.
You bring your own.
I try.
Also, I find it very lonely on the road.
God.
God bless you
It's nice to have people there with me
To keep it going
But I
I think a lot
The other thing that
Dooms people
Is they actually make good money
Doing comedy
These people have done it for 20 years
Because they've got all the local
Corporates stitched up
They do all the Christmas parties
They do work functions
No?
Not here?
I agree
I know these people
I agree
But I'm shaking my head
And I'll tell you why
But keep
No tell
But I think that
What?
No tell me
No no keep going
He has a philosophical disagreement
I believe
Thank you
Yeah
Keep going
Bobby
But I must now
No
I understand that
You didn't finish your thought though
Start over
Start over
There's a sense of entitlement
That people have
No?
Yes yes
But no
And they're making big money
From doing comedy
I always thought
I always wanted to get on the cruise ships
I always wanted to be on the cruise ships
I always wanted
Because I was this part
Until quite late in the career
I was like 15, 16 years in
I was just in my little town
I tried moving away
I didn't know
I had to keep moving back
Over and over again
And still
I did like one Christmas party
And it went so badly
I never got another one
They still gave me the money
But the cheapest chips
Would never book me again
I'll tell you
I was shaking my head
I'll tell you why
Okay
Thanks
If I may
If I may
Okay
When I started
They were like
Yeah you gotta clean up your act
You know what I mean?
You gotta do jokes
That like are more
You know what I mean?
Meat and potatoes
Right?
You gotta
You know like about driving
Or you know what I mean?
Dating
What's going on with
The airplanes
You know what I mean?
And you have to dress better
Because I used to dress like this
And messed up hair
You know what I mean?
Fucked up
I would say really crazy shit on stage
Wouldn't get a laugh necessarily
But it was just like
Really nut shit
You know what I mean?
Yeah
And people would go
You're never gonna get corporate gigs
You're never gonna be on cruise ships
You're never gonna do the road
You're never gonna make it with that act
And I always thought
But I'm being myself
Yeah
You know what I mean?
And I
You know
Because you have to do a lot of like
You have to
Pretend that you're a comedian more
Than finding your own point of view
And being essentially yourself
Right?
So you kind of have to like
Clean up your act
Wear a certain
A specific thing
Right?
Only talk about things
That everyone
You know what I mean?
Will relate to
And I think that hinders comedy
So yeah
There's corporate comics
In these towns
That like
If a convention comes through
But their jokes are very generic
About family
Or
Yeah
Very generic jokes about
The freeways
Driving and the freeway
Around that town
Oh yeah yeah yeah
Yeah yeah
They have local references
And it
It's
I don't think that that's what comedy's about
Yeah
I think comedy's about
Like you
I've never seen
Anyone that looks like you
I've never seen
I've never seen
Anyone like you
Right?
I've never seen anyone
Do comedy like you
Right?
You are
You are who you are
Okay?
And I think
I was the same way
So that's why
I've never done a corporate
Your whole career
You never did one corporate case?
I think I did one
And they lit me right away
You know what I mean?
And they were like
Get him off
You know what I mean?
It was like one of those things
And you know
I did maybe
Seven colleges
And they were like
No he's too wild
Yeah
For the kids
I could see that
Yeah yeah
I would do crazy shit
You know what I mean?
Just running around
The whole thing
You know what I mean?
And they'd be like
No no no
You know
A part of you still goes
I'd like to do well for these people
Excuse me?
One still wants to do well
For these people
Yeah
But I would try and do it
And I would
Because I didn't have the
I did a gig for a supermarket company
On their special golf day
And I
You know
It was their special golf day
And they said
Get up in 10 minutes
What do you mean special golf day?
They all went out and played golf
With the people who supplied the supermarket
Oh it's special
Yeah yeah
Special golf day
And they said
Here's the comedian
I think I used the word
Three times in the first four minutes
Are you on a golf course?
They had come in from the golf course
Okay
So watch me say something
About someone getting
Today
What the fuck am I doing?
Yeah yeah yeah
That's what I'm saying
It's all the lights are on
Yeah yeah yeah
Yeah yeah yeah
The lights are on
People are eating
It's not the right environment
Yeah yeah yeah
It's a nightmare
You know what I mean?
So what I would say
To a young man like this
How long have you been doing comedy?
Four and a half years
Four and a half years
Still developing
What you would say
Yes yeah
Still developing
Are you
Yeah I say it
Yeah yeah
You know it's so funny
From afar
Sometimes you look Asian
I've gotten that a lot
Yeah right now
Yeah yeah like right now
Thank you
People say it
I have squinty eyes
If I may say
Yeah yeah
I'm just
Yeah yeah squinty eyes
I mean you're dating a Korean
Yes
Yeah
An Asian person
Waysian yeah
Yeah
She's half
Yeah
Yeah yeah yeah
Are you afraid of full?
Oh afraid of full Asian?
Capital A Asian
No
I'm not afraid
No
Okay good
Fair question
Yeah no
And fair answer
No fears
Yeah yeah
Koreans have maybe the least Asian
Archetypal personality
What do you mean?
There is
There is
I agree with this
What do you mean?
I think of Christopher Shin from Earth
I think of other
Koreans
I think of other Koreans
I think of other Koreans
I've met in my time
Yeah
There is masculinity
And just a constant
Threat of violence
Yeah
What?
In a very American way
Yeah
They're Christian
I think they call this
Yeah Han
Heiting
Heiting
Heiting
Yeah yeah yeah
Very
Lives large in the
You know of all the
Of all the Asiatic regions
Gender politics
Maybe the worst there
Women not happy
To be submissive
And they take themselves
Out of the sex market
And the birth rate
Is I think the worst
In the world
In South Korea
Yeah
In South Korea
There's something
In Korea
That is really
People think of Japan
As being the most alien
And like interesting
But boy
There's something
Happening in Korea
I'll tell you
An interesting thing
Yeah
If I may
Please
Okay
Even other Asians
Don't like me
Of other Asian regions
They find me to be
What's the word?
Unflavorable
Yeah
Unpalatable
Unpalatable
I can't say the word
Yeah
But I agree
You agree
Well I mean I've seen it
You've talked about it
I don't agree
Yeah yeah yeah
But I know what you're talking about
I have a similar thing
I mean you know
There was
I don't want to
You know I've been
Potting for a long time
So sometimes I reiterate
Certain stories
Yeah
But I had this famous
Asian actor once
Pull me aside
At the comedy store
And he goes
Let me talk
He had an accent
Yeah
Let me talk to you
Outside
And I go
Okay
He goes
Oh you're
Disgraced
Yeah
And I go
What do you mean?
He's like
Call you Asian everybody
And I go
Why?
All the things you say
And I go
What the fuck
You say
Talk about you
F***
Back up
That's really the sort of thing
He might have had
In a problem
Oh you think
That was the thing
I started
Okay okay
I started out
With Ronny Chieng
I love him
Great
Yes
But
Suit
Dignity
Yeah yeah
Tonight
Tonight
Show
Yes
I've been reading
The news
Yes
I was in a
You know
It's very
I have my law degree
Yes
I'm disciplined
In martial arts
Yeah yeah yeah
Yeah yeah yeah
The diaspora
Is very happy
To get around
Yeah yeah yeah
I'm
If I was back in the day
Right
I would be
You know what I mean
With the rice
On the head
You know what I mean
The coulee
Yeah just shuffling
Through a village
You know what I mean
Right
Yeah
Dropping it off
Right
And then probably
In some well
You know what I mean
Dirty face
Really dirty
Yeah yeah
I would like
Maybe have some sort of
Slight leprosy
You know what I mean
Right right
People would call me
The town
You know what I mean
Yeah
Yeah and
I think that
I'm one
When I was a kid
I never wanted to do comedy
Until I saw Margaret Cho
On HBO
And she's Korean
And
I'd seen other Asians
You know what I mean
Like Johnny Yoon
Or other people
To my Yotsuki
And stuff like that
But
Back in the day
She was the first person
I was like
Oh I think maybe
I can do comedy
Because
She's Korean
And you can tell
She's Korean
Because she can
She goes to the edges
Of things
You know what I mean
Yeah
You know what I mean
And I thought
Oh you could go to that
Edge of things
And I think that
Oh maybe I can
Because
When you're watching
Just a Seinfeld
Growing up
As a Korean boy
You're like
Oh there's no way
I could do that
Because he's in a suit
He's talking
You know what I mean
What's up with that
You know what I mean
I'm like
I don't even understand
Yeah
But then you need
You know
I think
Koreans
Especially in comedy
Are a little wilder
I think
Yeah
I think so
Like Hans Kim
For instance
Is an extreme example
Of that
Of just
Something wrong
Yeah
There's something wrong with us
And I think it's
The Japanese oppression
Of 50 years
Yeah
You know what I mean
We were tortured
And pillaged
And you know what I mean
Destroyed
You know what I mean
And we
My generation
Lived through that
And it's generational trauma
And it's just the way we are
We're
You know what I mean
We're really into revenge
There was something
Happening before then though
Because in the medieval era
Those hats
The Korean hats
No no no
Tell me about the hats
You know about the Korean
No I don't know about Korean hats
They called it
The kingdom of hats
You've never seen
The hats of medieval Korea
Well I'm watching a movie
a TV show again called Kingdom.
- Yeah, yeah.
wearing these large hats.
- Maybe the hats are unbelievable.
- Unbelievable hats.
- Something important that, no, I mean, get up, all of the,
there was a show about, was this the zombie show?
- Yeah, The Kingdom.
- The hats in that show.
- That's what I was talking about.
- I went from there, I saw that show and I went,
look at these hats. - Look at the hats.
- And I went back, it's a whole tradition of these hats.
- And clothing. - Yeah.
- They were really into linen,
and I'm gonna tell you this right now,
it's fucking Prada shit, dude.
We were into style, you know what I mean?
We were into like, you know what I mean?
Check me out, you know what I mean?
And it's like, everything is just like clean, good lines,
very Balenciaga, if you really think about it.
- Yeah. - Yeah, yeah.
Look at that, dude.
- Look at that one on the right.
- Different styles.
- Different styles of hats.
- Of hats, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And they're also clever because they're see-through.
- Wait, they talk not, they breathe?
- So it breathes. - Breathes.
- We were already.
- Breathing into technology.
- Yeah, breathable fabric.
- Yeah, breathable fabric before anyone else.
- The Margaret Cho thing you say is interesting though,
'cause it was sort of like, there was a last moment
that there was kind of a left-wing,
progressive, edgy punk rock
that got absorbed at some point into a mainstream,
but it's like her and Patton Oswalt
were getting around like Jim Goad,
and all the weird, edgy, sort of proto-fascist,
straight, like violent, kill yourself, kill other people.
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- And you go, that's really gone away.
There's not, people got the Dirtbag Lift.
Dirtbag Lift had nothing on, early Margaret Cho.
- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- David Ross, David Cross, yeah, what a moment.
- Yeah, I witnessed the tail end of that.
And I think I was molded by it.
Like Bane was molded by the dark.
- Yeah, yeah, yeah, you were.
- Remember Bane?
- Yeah.
- Yeah, he was molded by it.
- When did that go away, and why did that go away?
'Cause I wasn't there for it at all.
- I think you were molded by it.
- I think you were molded by it, too, as well.
I watch your comedy, and I think you're molded by it.
- So Vice Magazine had started up by the time
I was in my teen years, and that was really big.
And I know that was born of that.
They're taking that ethos as well.
- Yes, yes.
- And Gavin is a big Jim Gode person.
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- There's some through line there.
- Yes.
- And the hipster thing was huge in Australia.
We loved, it was like, oh, we can be counter-cultural
and have a nice little meal.
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- Ride around on my bicycle.
- Have some casual sex in the bookstore.
It's great.
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- But it does--
- Your generation killed something.
- What happened?
- What?
- Yeah.
- No, you guys--
- I mean, you're wearing--
- Very unfortunate.
- Let's just look at your clothing.
- It's sick.
- Yeah, it is sick.
Yeah, but it's like, there's, not you specifically, right?
- Okay, it felt like it was for a moment
when you said, "Look at your clothing."
I mean, yeah, it felt directed at me, I guess.
I misunderstood.
- You're wearing corduroy trousers?
- Yeah, bro, these are J.Crew.
- But in this heat.
- I know, see how defensive he is too.
- I like that.
- Yeah, man, J.Crew.
- Great, great, no, go for it.
Go for it.
- Yeah, go for it.
- Go for it.
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- I'm wearing seersucker and linen.
I planned ahead for Los Angeles.
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- I'm loving it.
- Yeah, yeah.
- I love it.
- This is style.
- Yeah, suck on it.
I'm on your side.
- Yeah, suck on it.
Suck on it, dude.
- You're a great guy.
- Yeah, you're a great guy.
- He's a great guy.
- You're a great guy, dude.
We can tell you're a great guy.
- Four years in, a heady time.
- It's a heady time, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, you feel you're still struggling?
- Yeah.
- A lot.
- Yeah.
- Are you a door person?
- Mm-hmm.
- Where do you door person?
- The Comedy Store.
- What a great place to be a door person.
- It really is.
- I've only been there about four times.
I went in there the other night.
- Yeah.
- Oh my goodness.
- What was, did you go up?
- I just watched from the back.
I was, I couldn't get on this one.
- Oh, yeah.
- This was, Kanye was there.
- Oh!
- Who was that?
- Kanye West.
- Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- Kanye West.
- I have a slippers.
Those slippers are dope.
- Yeah.
- Let's move on.
Yeah, yeah, let's move on.
- It was a night of many star.
It was-
- Chris Rock, I heard.
- Chris Rock was there.
- Yeah.
- Chappelle was there.
Shane was there.
Louie was there.
- Wow.
- It was a, I was with my friend Fuzzy.
- Yeah.
- He's never been to California before.
And he was, he'd never been in the store before.
He's walking around going,
"Is it like this every single night?"
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- It's not.
- Yeah.
- Because mostly the nights are me.
- It's usually you.
Bobby, you're the guy.
- It's me, Santino, Whitney Cummings.
- Ali Wong.
- Nikki Glaser, Ali Wong is pretty much the,
is the regular nights.
- Yeah.
- But during Netflix week, which is this week,
is everyone.
That's why I'm, like, I was gonna take this week off,
but they're like, "You want a spot?"
And I'm like, "I have to do it, I think."
- Yeah, yeah.
- I think I have to do it.
Because I'm going to the,
the house for the first time tomorrow.
Did you hear about the house?
- No.
- Ted Sarandos has a lunch.
- Okay.
I know about this only because I saw
Hannah Gadsby in the picture one year,
where she was, a couple of years ago,
she came along and she's right in the corner,
and Chappelle's way over there.
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Let me about, 'cause Hannah's from your region.
- Hannah started out in my city.
She's a Tasmanian, but she started comedy in Adelaide.
- Are you friends with her?
- We've never really hung out.
I'll be honest.
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- She was doing much better than me in Australia
when I was there.
I went to MC at a gig she did,
and I didn't do a very good job,
and I think I was offensive.
And anyway, so we'll figure it out.
No disrespect.
- Yeah, yeah.
No disrespect either.
- Great club comic.
- Don't know her.
- Great club comic.
- Yeah.
- Not known for that work.
People give me a fucking,
people give me a look, but I'll stand up for it.
She was a really strong club comic with tight, punchy bits.
- I like her.
- And she did, no, no, over here, over here.
- I know, but yeah, but he's anti-everything.
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's like Red Bar.
- People don't want to hear it.
- I don't know who that is.
- In the wild.
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Red Bar is a guy who-
- No, I don't have any interest in finding out
any more about him.
- All right, let's move on.
All right, let's move on.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But this is the lunch.
- Yeah.
- Okay.
- There she is!
- Where?
- In the corner, no one's-
- Is that her?
- That's her.
- That's her.
- And then Chappelle.
- That's them, sorry.
That's Hannah.
- And Chappelle's right here.
- Zoom into that area.
- Yeah, happy Chappelle is.
- Chappelle's here.
- Yeah, yeah.
- Chappelle's having a great day.
- So every year they have this famous lunch, right?
And I'm finally invited.
- The Asians, you would say.
You don't get any outsized Asian attendance at your shows?
You must.
- No, he does.
- Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Oh, in San Francisco, yeah.
- Yeah, yeah.
- I mean, but you know, when I play the Midwest
where we've never had an Asian,
or there are no Asians in the town.
- Yeah.
- What can I do?
It's just filled with whites.
- If you showed up to a show
and the entire audience was Asian,
would that feel good or weird to you?
- Oh, it'd be great.
- You'd like that, okay.
- Oh no, 'cause when Dumb Founder did that
outside all Asian festival and that was a surprise.
It was a huge reaction.
- Yeah, okay.
- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, I know where I belong in the history
and the annals of, you know what I mean?
- Sure.
- History of Asian comedy.
- Yeah, okay, yeah.
- I understand.
You know, I think the whites have it harder.
- No, I mean, accented whites?
- Oh, fuck yeah, you have that.
- No, Ari, Matty and I have like a hot knife through butter.
We can do quite well.
- Can you do an American accent?
- Yes.
- See, they love it.
- Yeah, do it.
- Oh, I'd turn it on and off though.
- Oh, all right.
- No, during the show, I try and balance it out.
- I'll give you.
- I'll go, sure, you know.
- Yeah, but can I give you a line?
- Porking my car at the car park.
- Yeah.
- Porking what?
- Sorry, porking what?
What do you want me to say?
I'll try to go, I can do Midwest.
- All right, all right, read the, this is your book?
What's this book here?
- "My Struggle."
- Whose book is this?
- It's mine, I brought it in.
- Why?
- Alex Cameron's book. - He actually does have it.
- No, I'm just reading it.
- I do have books of poems, yeah.
- Can you say this book, "My Struggle,"
Karl Ove, in an American accent?
- "My Struggle," book one, Karl Ove.
That's not great.
I can do, this one's much easier for us.
Personally, I find it not especially difficult.
- Yeah, look, can you teach me
how to do an Australian accent?
- Ah, fucking dog, dog.
- Now give me a sentence.
- Yeah, you fucking dog.
- You fucking dog.
You fucking dog. - And even then the T,
Americans really pronounce the,
if it's an R at the end or a T,
they pronounce it, we just, we just end.
- Car. - Car.
It's like Bostonian.
- It's a little-- - I have a--
- It's a little south side Chicago.
- You know what I mean? - I have a--
- I have a dreaming, or whatever.
- That's very good.
That's a very funny bit. - That was a Martin Luther King.
- As a sketch. - Yeah, yeah, you think so?
- Well, with the dreaming is the aboriginal--
- Do you think this is a bit, 'cause I thought about it,
what if Koreans had like an MLK, you know what I mean?
He did a speech like that, with an accent.
- Uh-huh.
- And so, I have a dreaming, right?
The white people do the laundry.
- Do you think that would work as a bit, or no?
- Sure.
Give it a go. - I guess.
- Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I like it, yeah.
- I have a bit about Koreans
that I've not managed to get off the ground.
- Can you workshop it here?
- Well, it's that from the outside,
the stereotype is like, you know,
these Koreans, they'll like the anime,
and the black people, they like the fried chicken,
but now I'm here, it's like, my God,
I mean, the Koreans love the fuckin' fried chicken,
and black people love anime.
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- It's the whole observation.
- I think that it is a very-- - Too much work, yeah.
- It's a very accurate observation.
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- I can't believe how much black people love the anime.
- Yeah, they love it.
- And Koreans with the fried chicken.
- Black people love, back in the day,
kung fu Chinese movies.
- Man, and I wish that Liquid Swords,
I don't know if you know the song Liquid Swords.
All these Wu-Tang songs, they've got 90 seconds
at the start of some odd Chinese, you know.
Yeah, they love it.
I fight you and the samurai came for my father.
Yeah, yeah.
And I didn't.
And weird noises happen.
Yeah, yeah.
And finally we get to the song.
Liquid Swords is the big one where it's just 90 seconds
of piffle and screaming.
Yeah, but the Asian culture is heavily influenced,
you know what I mean?
Yeah.
It's macho, macho with the black thing.
It's a fighting.
What's a macho?
Macho, I mean, kung fu movies.
I was reading about this, I think the Tarantino book.
What's macho?
Kung fu movies, very macho, and black people.
Wait, wait.
Black people have a macho culture.
Kung fu is a macho thing.
Like macho.
He's saying macho.
What's macho mean?
Like tough.
Oh, macho.
Macho man.
Oh, macho man.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I want to be a macho man.
It's actually not a very macho man.
And then Trump comes out.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And he's doing, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
What weird choice.
YMCA macho man.
It's, it's.
Yeah, like the worst.
Maybe that's the only rights he can get.
Is that what it is?
Maybe.
He ends on candle in the wind.
I always thought that was beautiful.
His, his, after his speeches?
He finishes the speeches.
They play candle in the wind.
Wow.
That's why there's that clip of him coming off stage,
and they go, Ruth Bader Ginsburg died,
and it's candle in the wind playing.
No, no.
Oh, it's the greatest clip.
If I'm ever to.
Explain it to me.
Explain it to me.
He, they go.
It's, it's, and it seems to me.
In the distance.
It's playing.
And he comes over and he goes, what?
And someone goes, Ruth Bader Ginsburg is dying.
It's my first time hearing that.
You're telling me that for the first time.
Wow.
She lived an incredible life.
Yeah.
And then he walks up the steps.
Yeah.
He salutes everybody.
It's candle in the wind,
and the fucking flag's going.
Wow.
It's like cinema.
Yeah, yeah.
It's perfect cinema.
Perfect.
Does anyone else?
Have you seen it?
I've never seen this before.
Yeah, yeah.
I've never seen it before.
Oh, it's great.
Yeah, yeah.
I love it already.
It's peak.
But, but describing is better than seeing it.
Maybe.
Yeah, yeah.
Don't look it up.
Especially from an Australian.
From an Australian.
Yeah.
Yeah.
As an Australian.
I'll cry thinking about it.
You, you live here now though, right?
In Austin.
I was living in Austin.
I moved back to Australia now.
I'm just doing a tour.
We had a fourth child.
It was hard.
Oh, okay.
Congratulations.
We'll figure it out.
Congratulations.
Thank you.
I appreciate it.
How do Australians feel about Americans right now because of the global conflicts that are
going?
Can I, is that uncomfortable?
No, no.
We're not a political show.
No, no, no.
People are afraid to come.
Most Australians feel odd coming.
Yeah.
Because I have a tour in Australia in August.
Yep.
Hey.
I'm going to Australia.
Woo!
Yay.
I'm going down under.
Yeah, there you go.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
And I am, right, going to sell out every show.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it's going to be great.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
And Jay, you're going to open for one of me in Adelaide?
I think I might be filming.
I am actually directing a movie in August.
Would you come one day early?
I'll do the show.
Are you really?
Will you come and be, I can only give, I can't necessarily pay you.
It's a very low budget.
Yeah.
You're directing a movie.
Yeah, but can I?
That's so funny.
I'm not a director.
I don't think it's going to work.
No, wait, wait, wait.
I'm not a director.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
You fuck.
You're a fucking lying piece of shit.
No, no.
I was quite careful with how I worded everything.
No, no, no, no, no.
Go back.
It's a crazy reveal.
It's crazy, dude.
Yeah, that's you, dude.
All right?
And what I'm saying to you is this.
I already said in the beginning of the show that you look like a director.
Then you completely denied it.
Like you didn't want anything to do with it.
I played it down.
I played it.
I didn't.
And then now it's like, can you fly in a day early?
To do my movie.
So I can be in your movie.
I'll give you a good role in the movie.
You would?
Maybe.
Yeah.
No, great role.
Powerful role.
Powerful.
Okay.
Are you really directing a movie?
I'll send you the script.
No, you don't have to send me the script.
I'll do it anyway.
All right.
Done.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'll do it anyway.
But what I'm saying is, yes, I'm doing it anyway.
Nice.
Oh, so you are going to Australia.
Woo-hoo!
Go to Australia.
Yeah, yeah.
We'll be in the movie.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Here's the way back.
You ready?
What?
Here we go.
The cruise.
We're going to get on one of these two-week cruises.
And get Hantavirus?
Yeah.
Come on.
Come on.
I'm pure number one Hantavirus guy.
Brisbane to Hawaii.
Yeah.
How long does that take?
Two weeks?
Three weeks?
One month.
You sit on the deck.
You drink the drink.
Yeah, yeah, you drink the thing.
Go for the swim.
Yeah.
And then you get off in Hawaii.
Yeah.
So now I fly back with a sweet American jet fuel.
But.
Oh!
A three-week trip to Australia through a cruise.
And then a beautiful trip.
That's six days then.
You can get booked on the cruise.
Two, $3,000.
Get a free room.
No, I'm not doing that.
Bobby will pay that to not do that.
Yeah, I'll pay not to perform.
So you're saying three weeks on one way to Australia.
No, no.
I fly in.
Fly in.
You got American fuel to bring you in.
Oh, I fly into Australia.
Ship out.
And you ship out three weeks.
Wouldn't that be nice?
It would be nice.
Go to Australia.
I'm in Hawaii.
Stay a couple of days.
Yeah.
The problem is that I'm playing Hawaii in September.
In September, so.
What if that works?
August, September.
Hello.
Hello.
Could work.
What if that did work?
You're doing the Blue Room?
Blue Lagoon?
Blue Nuts?
What's it called?
Hawaii Theater.
Hawaii Theater.
No, the bigger one.
Yeah, it's a different one.
I'm doing a bigger one, yeah.
I've always wanted to do Hawaii.
Blue Note?
What the fuck?
I said Blue Note.
What am I, Tony Hinchcliffe?
That's the best I could imagine for myself.
You're playing Rainbow Warrior Stadium.
It's five to five.
I'll text them tomorrow.
I want to go to Hawaii.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I've never been.
Oh, you got to go.
You got to go.
Seems perfect.
I've got all these kids and we've got to keep going back and forward.
Yeah, yeah.
What a nice place to get to stop and take a look.
You got to go, dude.
I took him.
Yeah, you got to go with Bobby.
Yeah.
It's a different Hawaii.
It's a different Hawaii with me.
It's different.
Yeah, we go to Omicasa.
I know what all the great spots are.
A lot of laying out.
A lot of beach fun.
I'm looking forward to it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I feel like you're recognized everywhere you go, but in Hawaii, it's a different level.
Yeah, I have a whole big Hawaiian family.
People go crazy for you.
I don't know, crazy, but it's like I'm a local.
Yeah, you are.
Do you support a Hawaii independence movement?
I do.
Yeah, and I was on a show called Magnum P.I., which was shot in Hawaii, so I worked a lot
out there as an actor, just so I don't lose the job.
It would be an honor.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Interesting.
An honor to have you in the picture.
I can't pay you rates.
I'll do it for free, dude.
I do movies and television for nothing because it doesn't do much.
No one's going to see your movie, but anyway.
Hey, maybe so.
Maybe so.
It's hard to get off the ground, but I would-
If you do it for free and the movie does get off the ground, you'll come with us to the
Cannes Film Festival.
You'll have a wonderful time.
And not only that, how about this, as a promise, right?
I'll do that small role for you for free, right?
But if it becomes a huge movie-
No, no, no.
No, no, no.
Yeah.
No, no, no.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Or I won't do it.
How big is a huge movie?
All right, so if you do this movie, right, and it becomes-
I should have just moved on.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Like an Academy Award winning movie, right?
Yes.
You'll get another movie.
Yeah.
A bigger movie, right?
Yep.
I get a part in that movie.
I can accept these terms.
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Pending your performance.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
You shook first.
All right, a part.
All right, a part.
Not one line.
Not one line.
It's only two lines.
I'm not background.
Not one line.
That would be great.
I would be an honor.
No, we-
I feel-
I have a significant role in the big Hollywood one.
Yes.
Because I've been in this boat before.
Yeah.
You know that I have.
Yeah, I've been-
Always gets screwed.
Literally, I've been on this boat before.
Gets screwed.
Where I get screwed, where they're like, you know what I mean?
Do this short, right?
You're the star, right?
And then all of a sudden, we got funding for the movie.
We're going to get Keanu Reeves.
Yeah.
Right?
And then you're like, oh, I got fucked.
Yeah.
Have you ever been in the Marvel Cinematic Universe?
I have not.
This might be time.
Are you directing?
You think I could-
You got the movie?
No, I'm just saying.
You think I could call Warner Brothers, hey, can I play Wolverine?
I think that there are enough people in there that if you just start putting that out, who
knows what will happen.
Well, I have auditioned for-
For Star Wars and Marvel Project.
But not as a superhero, as like a scientist or something.
Or a clerk at a hotel.
Like, oh my God, Spider-Man.
Lines like that.
I helped you with Shang-Chi.
Yeah, you helped me with Shang-Chi.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was going to say, Shang-Chi, you didn't land anything in Crazy Rich Asians?
Oh, it's-
Everyone has to have a subject role.
That's what I'm saying.
All right, okay.
All right, all right, all right.
I don't know.
Yeah, yeah, all right.
I was tracking that movie from inception to casting.
Yeah.
And when we called and said, can Bobby Lee audition, they go, he's never going to get
it.
So thanks for bringing that up again, you piece of shit.
You might have-
They truly are crazy, these rich-
If I would have put you-
Ken Jeong got it.
I would have put you.
Anyway, did you have fun today?
He did blackface.
Well, he did?
Yeah, everybody knows that.
Let me see.
Oh, in that episode of-
Let me see.
In that episode of Community that got cut where he's a dark elf.
You may have just won your graces back with Bobby.
Can I say, this is so funny, though?
Yeah, send it.
It's so funny.
Oh, my.
That's not a black friend.
He's an elf.
Yeah, he's like a-
All right, yeah.
Now, find mine.
You have one?
The George Foreman.
The George Foreman one.
Yeah.
Did it George Foreman?
I played George Foreman's son.
Is that online?
I think Bad Friends has it.
I had no clue you did this.
Is this on Matt TV?
Yeah.
Oh, no.
You're not going to be able to find it.
Give me some time.
Okay.
Anyway, well, we're done with the podcast.
Here's some of his dates.
Oh, yeah.
So your dates are once you're. All these shows.
Get on down.
Well, is there a site that they can go to?
The James Donald Forbes McCann catamaran plan out now.
All digital platforms.
Spotify.
Delicious Little Juice.
The hit single out now.
Okay.
Four books of poems.
You got four books.
Wow, four books.
Give James and Rod a round of applause, everybody.
Thank you for having me.
I really thank you for having me.
That was so fun.
Thank you for having me.
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