Jack's Proposal to Rebecca| "Both Things Can Be True" (512)

On today's episode of That Was Us, we're diving into season 5, episode 12. Both things can be true, as Kevin and Madison plan their wedding doubt about what they both want begins to surface. Faces the nerves of a new job, Randall explores his identity and Miguel and Nikki butt heads over the rehearsal dinner. In the past, Jack prepares to propose to Rebecca. What up, y'all? Hi, friends. Here we are. Here we are, face to face, a couple of silver spoons. Hoping to find, we're two of a kind, making it grow, we're making it grow together. If you're going to say it, you've got to finish the whole thing. Do we need to talk about John Huertis's hair? Bro. His hair be haired. Be forewarned. Also, that is not a wig. That's his hair. That is that man's hair. All of it. All of it. Yeah. It's an impressive mob. Let's do it. That hair. Let's get that guy in here. It's an emotional assault on my being, just showing up and showing out and showing off like that. Yeah. I get it. This is, we're talking about Miguel in the past. Yeah. When it's Miguel in the present day. That is a wig. Oh, that's a wig. It's, it's a, it's, yes. Okay. Okay. So, right? Yeah. And mostly, like the, the back, I believe, a little bit underneath, but the top, but that's, that's all him in the, but this blow out. Yeah. In episode five, 12, can make a man, weep, can make a man weep, can make a man question his sexuality. Yeah. Cause this man is too pretty. Yeah. It almost seems like that question is for a second. Yeah. For a second, I'm like, these guys are technically engaged. Technically. Um, because Miguel is bringing the smoke. So we are, we are in the past. Yeah. As, as we alluded on the last podcast episode, I am a post, newly postpartum. That's right. So there was no Rebecca in this episode. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But everybody else was around. Presence is felt. Presence is felt because in the past. Yeah. We are diving into a story of Jack getting ready to propose to Rebecca. That's right. But of recreating their first date as part of the proposal, which of course is, is very Jack-like though. Yeah. And then Miguel is helping him with this. He mentions that Rebecca's dad has not called back. He's left several messages. He's trying to get her blessing, his blessings, sorry, before proposing to her. And Miguel insists that Jack, like, practice the whole experience with him. Yeah. He needs to know what you're doing before she. Sure. You know, your nerves are going to be rattled, like, get down on one knee, like, I want the whole thing. Let's do it. Do the dry run. He puts the ring on Miguel's finger, and the ring gets stuck. Ring gets stuck. Yeah. He's, first of all, where this is so dumb, like, you can see him sort of, like, his face is like, am I about to be proposed to? Yeah. He's so cute. The comedy is so good. Yeah. It's so cute. He's fully into his Rebecca role. Yeah. And he's being 100% helpful and not helpful at all. Yeah. Because at one point, Jack says, he's like, back, and he goes, yes, and he's like, don't you do it? And you can tell there's a game happening between the two of them and between Milo and John. Yeah. And we're just like, I'm going to make you break. And he's like, don't you do it? Yeah. Yeah. There's a genuine game afloat. I love it. Yeah. Yeah. There's all sorts of things going on. He has to get the umbrella. It's very charming and cute. He takes the ring. And you can see, he gives a little bit of muscle on it at the end. And then you see, he accepts, and he's just trying to take it off. And it's not coming out. He's stuck. First of all, everybody, like, men's hands and women's hands. Yeah. And it goes, if it fits on your ring finger, it's not fitting a mind. That's too big for men. Yeah. It's falling off. But it was on his pinky. I think I'm putting on his pinky. It was on his pinky, for sure. But still. But still. Yeah. Rachel's wedding ring wouldn't make it past the first knuckle of my pinky. Yeah. That's right. Like, it would be a little crown for the tip of my pinky. Yeah. Her fingers are so tiny. Oh, my gosh. Did Taylor ask you that for? He did. Yeah. Would your dad say about it? Was he, like, touched by it? He was touched. I had been betrothed before. But that person did not ask my father, so I think my dad was very touched. Okay. That it was done in the traditional way. My dad appreciates that. But I believe he also is super awkward. He was like, oh gosh, you don't have to ask for my permission, you know, as Taylor recounted it to me. Yeah. But yes. And I remember you asked for Rachel's parents. Yeah, I did. And I felt like it was the right thing to do then. I feel like I'd want someone to ask me. Yeah. And hear about the process of asking for a blessing. There's part of me that goes, that feels old. Like that feels like we used to buy women. Yeah, but what about the idea of somebody saying, like, hey, just want to give you a heads up? This is what I'm planning on doing. Totally. I love your daughter. Yeah. And like I said, like, I did it. And I think that was the right thing to do. And if someone was going to ask, if I'd marry them, I would want them to do it. Yeah. And hear about the concept. I know. I'm just afraid. To what it's like. Yeah, well, so this is interesting because I knew my, I didn't really have a relationship with my father-in-law or had a minimal one that my, my wife's mom was like sort of the stronger presence, but you're supposed to ask the dude or what have you. Yeah. I think you would have been fine, but he and Ryan, their relationship got closer over time. So I didn't ask, well, because I kind of felt like her mom, if I asked her mom, she would just say, no. And I was like, well, I don't want to do that. Yeah. Part. Which is what I was thinking about Jack. And I was like, this is kind of honorable that he's still going through this even though he knows that he's not the biggest fan or his dad is not the biggest fan of him, right? But so I, similar to you, I have two boys, so I don't have a young lady to give away or what not. But I think I'm sort of, I'm very, I'm also very modern that sounds dumb, but like when they call me by my first name, I don't trip, like, you know, if they say Mr. Sterling, I'm like, that's fine. There's no revolution to happen. You know what I'm saying? Whereas when, when we got married, when Ryan I got married, I thought like I really wanted her to have my last name so that like, you know, we'd all be the brown family. And now I was like, they just called us by our first name. She hates it when they call it by our first name. She's like, give me a Miss Ryan, please. Like she needs like a miss in front of it or something. From who? Your kids? From the kids' friends. Got it. From kids' friends in terms of how they address her. But like I, I, if I had to do it again, would I ask, no, I'd probably do the same thing. So I'm good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Popped my own, finally shows up. Yeah. Right? We can tie this up. Tie it up. Tie it up. And essentially says, sorry for the delay. I just wanted to tell you to your face. Yeah. Yeah. Essentially. He said, I will, I will do the best that we all know that Rebecca's made her decision. I will do the best that I can to sort of tolerate tolerance to tolerate this relationship. And that's when when Big Migs is like, no, that's not good enough. I made this. And the indoor breeze. It almost looks like, uh, what's the novels that like at the grocery store? Yes. Yeah. Romance. Romance. Romance. It's it's a Puerto Rican Fabio. Fabio. It's given Puerto Rican Fabio. Yeah. Fabian. And he's like, no, man, that's not good enough. He's like, this dude, he said, when I first met him, he came in to get a jacket. Uh, so he'd go on to a club, your country club, your country club or whatnot. And he said, it wasn't about the jacket, it was about the girl. Yeah. And all the decisions that he made or about the girl, you know, taking a job without getting paid so that he could like make inroads on construction, so that he could provide for the girl. So you tolerating this, dude, you should be thankful that a dude like this wants to be with your daughter. And it was, like every once in a while, like people come from, Lord, I won't say that this is more than the president or whatnot. But you see who we get these moments of seeing who Miguel is, the kind of die hard dude that he is. I think this is also a fogement. When people come after somebody, like he doesn't want them necessarily to come after, he's like, I have to show these people his humanity. And I think this was a moment of like showing that. And there's a lot of that in this episode. There's a lot of that. And then Matheson, first of all, shout out to makeup, like he looked real smooth. Yeah. Yeah. That's also VFX. - Yes. - Is that me? - Hey, hey, hey. - Sorry, sorry. - I didn't know. - Just being honest. - How much is fired? - How much effects do we use? - Like, do we use it on me all the time? - We use effects? - Yeah. - Really? - Yeah. - 'Cause I was looking, he looked baby. He looks like smooth. - I had better. - Did you look at Milo and John too? - There's effects on them too? - Yeah. - Really? - There's effects on all of us. John was like 50. - What kind of budget did we have? - I'm being honest. - John looks incredible. (laughing) - He's too incredible. - He's supposed to be like 25 or whatever. - Yeah, yeah. - But I didn't know we were breaking. The first time I remember seeing something like that is on like the Avengers. You remember when I showed like RDJ, like back in the day and I was not good? It wasn't great. - No, ours was great. - Yeah, that's why I thought we didn't use the effects. - Yeah, well, there you go. - It's come on. - I'm here to tell you, yes, they use it to tweak Rebecca present day. Like, they use it in different ways. They can adage, take away age. - Really? - Okay. - Proof acting. - Yeah. - I know that. - I know that. - That's actually the one thing that can't do. - Well, they worked for me. (laughing) Madison sort of gets the message. He sees through his friend Miguel, like just what kind of stand up guy, this dude who wants to marry his daughter is. And he asks if you got to stick a butter. Like, there's a little trick that I know. - No, you do have a dental floss. - Dental floss. - Dental floss, yeah. They've already been sitting there. - Mr. Mallon has opened the door to two men holding a stick of butter. - That's right. - Which is a natural thing between two men, people, people. - We like butter. And Miguel's like, is it gonna hurt? It's like just a little bit. - Just a little bit. But that's pretty much the total of that thing, right? In the present, what do you want to do? - Kevin and Madison, I feel like we should start out with there is a shot of us magazine, with them on the cover, engaged. Look at that rock. 'Cause it's like a zoom in on the engagement ring. - Yeah, I remember they're wedding planner. I don't remember her name, but like, I remember her because she had a very cool haircut like so shaved on one side and she was a motorcycle. Like, and her, like, her mile of like road motorcycles together, every once in a while, we'd get together like a group of people and like, ride. - Oh, cool. - Yeah, that's how she found her way to the show. - I don't know if that's it in totality. She's an actor and she probably auditioned as well, but she's like, that's it. That's what I think. - That's very cool. - Yeah, so they're sitting down, planning the wedding, coming up venues and guest lists and we can tell that all of this is pretty easy going stuff for Kevin and Madison might be bristling a little bit. - She's a little more hung up on things. There are dream wedding venues available. Kevin's excited and Madison has this vein. Like, oh, yeah, that's, I just didn't know it was possible that's really exciting in the wedding planners asking like, do you have your wedding parties? And they're trying to explain it's, it's gonna be a really small wedding. Kate, you know, his sister, she's gonna be my maid of honor. I've already asked her, we cried, it was great. And then Kevin, you haven't been your best man. - Kevin hasn't asked his best man, which is Randall. - And he's only asking his brother. And she's like, well, when are you gonna do it? And he's like, oh, I'm getting out to it. He's like, well, you should get, he's like, yeah, yeah. 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To claim, visit article.com/twu, and the discount will be automatically applied to checkout. That's article.com/twu for $50 off your first purchase of $100 or more. (gentle music) - Should we dovetail this with Katobe sort of thing or just keep it clean? 'Cause you guys have a really lovely scene with each other. - Oh, yeah, I mean, we could do it just with that scene. - With just that scene. - Yeah. I mean, I remember this day at the park. - Yeah. - Very well. It was, it was, I can really, I've come back now after a little bit of break with Tobi. Tobi's got some cheek stubble. - Yep. - He's clearly out of work. (laughs) He's clearly a man at home. - Yeah. - And I will point out we got at the top of the episode. - This is one of my favorite scenes, by the way. Do you know what I'm gonna do? - Go ahead. - At the top of the episode, you're sitting there, you're feeding baby Jack or whatnot. Kate's getting ready for her first day of school teaching the blind, how to sing, what have you. And like, this is the moment the thought that I had was, oh man, I would hate to see Chris frustrated for a prolonged period of time. 'Cause like, you see on his face, it's just like, he's like, I'm enduring. - Yeah. - I'm existing. - I'm in a state of endurance right now. Like, not enjoyment, but, you know, I'm putting on a brave face and we're gonna make it happen, right? Supportive of his wife who's about to go out and do her thing, et cetera. But this moment can only, only come from just like a gift from the God. - Oh yeah. - Where Chris sings a lyric, his wife's gone. - So, yes. - In between takes, I'm hanging out with these babies. - Yes. - So we're on set and in between takes, you know, Wells and I are- - Who's Wells? - The baby. - The baby Jack. - Baby Jack. - Baby Jack. - Wells and I are getting to know each other. And he is now, he's also growing up on this show. - Sure. - He's a beauty baby when he first met. And now he's coming into his words. - Yeah. - And I also am a father now. - Yeah. - So I am inner, I'm sorry, am I boring you? - Yes. (laughing) - Andy Moore just yawned right in my face. - Chris, for listeners, for context, it is 145. - Yeah. - It is second cup time. - Oh, we didn't get you one. You asked for one, too. - I did. - Rob. - Wobby-wob. - I'm sorry, I've had more in the second cup of coffee. - No, it was too good. I couldn't pass it up. But Mandy, I've been doing the silent yarns for about an hour and a half, 'cause anybody with kids under the age of eight knows that we're around this time of the year. - I have a kid that wakes up every morning at like 515 that's like, "Mom, I have to poo or something." You know, anyway, sorry, sorry. - So I'll let's hold it real quick. Let's do an acting exercise. Let's all look into our camera. And do a person holding in a yarn, ready? I'll go first. This is what it looks like to me. - It looks like you holding it more than you have to make that. - Wait, when someone goes, it's like talking to you, and they're like, - That's what it looks like. - I didn't pee on my pants. (laughing) - What I think, it's sterling now you go. - There you go. - I can't, I know that he can do better than that, Chris. - Okay, all right, all right, fine. - It's like that is the peak. - He was holding it in, a yarn, and something else. - But we were trying to like, not along with somebody, you're like, you're yawning, like, yeah. - It's like your whole mouth is like. - Yeah, yeah, and they know you're yawning. You like, go cross-eyed a little bit, but you're still just like, try to hide it. - Oh, my God, yeah, they definitely know. - That's why I didn't hold it in. - So I was talking about, we were talking about Wells and his parents are there, obviously, 'cause he doesn't drive himself to set. And they were saying, I think his mom was saying that like, he hates it when I sing in the car. You know how kids do this? Do your kids do this? - Yeah, not singing. - Not singing, don't sing, dad. - Yeah, no singing. - I just want to express my joy with this song. - Yeah. - And of course in your family, they're saying it to two professional singers. - Well, I do too. - You're a professional singer, you've got an album. - But anyway, so they're like, they're like, he hates it when mom sings in the car. And I'm like, okay, I'm interested. And so at the end of this take, as mama goes off to work, I just look right at Wells and I go, "I want a rock!" And Wells goes, no, I say, okay, just without skipping a beat. - It's great. - No. - Perfect. - It's so good. - Whenever Wells hears an adult sing, he goes, no. - No. - Well done. - Yeah. - That was Wells. - Which would have been his first speaking line on television. - Yeah. - That's right. I wonder if they had to pay him more for that. - Yeah. - Okay, that's the day he entered the union. Right? - That's just true. - That's just true. - He was tapped just in heart-lead before that. (laughing) - That's where it comes from, did you know? - Yeah, I didn't. I did. So you guys, you wound up meeting Madison at the park. That was really funny, Chris. That was, that's like a full body. I felt like I worked out. That was awesome. - We could also play Smaller Smile. Do you wanna play Smaller Smile? - No, I need you to. - It's a Pete Holmes game. He plays it with his wife and what you do is. - Okay. - You. - I'll just laugh. - You, you, this is the challenge, right? (laughing) It's an acting exercise. - Oh, God. - Okay. - It's a great game. - Okay, let's do it. - Smaller Smile, and you look down and you look up and you have to smile as small as you possibly can. So you look down and you look like it. - Oh, that's good. - And that's it? That was the smallest smile I could do. Now you do one to your camera. (laughing) - Sterling. - Oh, okay, now Sterling's turn. Yeah, you can do it. We have to do it. - Yes, you have to do it too fast. - Nope, wait, nope. - No. - You're the most, you're the most awarded actor amongst the three of us. I gotta see Sterling Kate Brown's smallest. - Who's getting? - Hold on. - Hold on. Okay. - I saw that. - Okay, and we're gonna do Smaller Smile. - I can't do it as well. - You can't, you can't. - Smaller Smile. - You look down, you go back to even. You go back to even, and then you look up at the camera and you give your smallest smile. - Come on. - Oh, that's my camera. Oh, Jiminy Christmas. Heaven's the Mercatroid. Mandy, that was funny. You guys are in rare form today. - Look. - What was that? That was like a facial twitch. (laughing) - This is good, this is a good game. Oh, we really got Natalie. (laughing) - Don't worry, I got it on video. We'll put it on socials. (laughing) - That is crazy. - I guess the whole thing's on video. We got seven cameras running. - This is like, goodbye, yeah. (laughing) - Oh, you guys. So the next scene is Toby and Madison at the park, which I, the park, let's talk about parks. You haven't been to a park in 30 years and then all of a sudden you're at parks every day with these little kids. When we were living in New York and it was me and eight nannies at the park. And these nannies got it locked down. They got bubble machines, they got charging stations, they got toys. - They got a picnic basket. - Toys for everybody. - Yeah, they got the shovels, they got, yeah. - Yeah, and they're sharing with everybody. They look at you, they say you have nothing, they shouldn't give you a shovel. - Yeah. - And so now we find Toby, stay at home, dad, at the park with the kids. Wells is, baby Jack is in the stroller. - Yeah. He's got the puffs, I'm eating that booty. - Yeah, the booty of the books. - That pirate's booty? - Yeah, I know what you meant. - You know what you mean, booty. It's delicious. - At first I was like, "Where's Hayley?" - You guys did it. - Twice, even in that first scene too. Y'all have two children now. - Yeah. - Where's the baby? - Where's the baby? - I think it was a double stroller. - No, she was on the picnic table in the, the, the car seat with the little cover on her. - Yes, yes, yes. - She wasn't really in there. - There you go. - But I was like, I guess you don't have to acknowledge it, but in my mind I was like, "Wait, where's the other kid?" - She was sleeping. - She was sleeping. - And she was sleeping in the first scene too. - Clearly, yeah. - She's tiny. - She's tiny. - Remember all they do is sleep. - That is true, that is true. - There you go. - Okay. (laughing) - Fan over. She's in one of those baby swings. Just. - It's fireself. - It's fireself. - Passed out. - Swing in the breeze. - Yeah. - Head. - Unsupported. - Thank you. - That's second trial, just doesn't get the same. - No. - It's okay, no. - Be free. And I don't remember what they're talking about. What are they talking about? - Madison basically admits she's like, "I know, he says how's wedding planning going." And she's like, "I don't want to get married at this venue that Kevin's really excited about." And Toby's like, "Well, have you mentioned it to him?" She's like, "Yeah, I have a hard time doing that with men and with basically everybody." - What? - And some of my children. - Yeah. - And. - She's funny too. - She's very funny. And then Toby talks about how he's having a really hard time being a stay-at-home dad. - Yeah. - And. - I like it for the first couple hours, but for 10 hours in a row. - 10 hours in a row. - He liked his job. He liked the coffee. He liked doing it. Like all the things that come along with it. - Yeah. - Honestly being 10 hours with my kid is just not my cup of tea. I didn't really mean that, but I did really mean that. It's an interesting conversation to have because there's this idea that you should be so happy to do this. And some people are. - Yeah. - And God bless them. - Yeah. - We're good at it. - And some people are like, you know what? Because I love them, doesn't mean that I also don't want to do these other things. - Yes. - Right? And I think that's the tough thing as a parent. Especially in this particular role reversal, where you've been the primary bread winner, et cetera, is like now you flip into that your wife has an opportunity to do her thing. And you're like, is it right for me to express anything other than gratitude, you know what I'm saying? Which we get into a little bit more in the next episode too. Like this idea that we as parents, as siblings, as whomever, like only have the right to express one thing. - Yeah. - And there's a lot of stuff going on inside of us, you know. What happens at the playground stays at the playground. You guys created a safe space for each other and both encouraged each other to be like, well maybe you should do something. Say something about that, you know? Now we can kind of wrap up kind of Kate and Toby's whole storyline 'cause it's all kind of around this idea, right? That Toby likes his job and likes being a parent, but wishes he had work. And you know, Kate has work and in these scenes, we see her having a hard time being away. She wishes that she could be spending time with the kids, even though she also likes her job, you know, in theory. Even though her new British boss is-- - Don't gloss over this, bro. - A bit of a prick. - Don't gloss over this. This is big. This is the introduction of Philip. - What you've been in once before? - No, this is the introduction. - This is the first episode with Chris Kier. - Yeah. - This is our first episode with Philip. - He's last. - We don't know what he looks like. - No. - This is interesting. Can I say this? Like this is jumping forward a little bit. I think I remember having this conversation with you, so. where you're like, I'm feeling a little bit of a way about like this guy's presence. - A new guy, yeah. - Yeah. - Do you just touch on it for a second 'cause I'm sure we'll revisit it. - No, I mean, it was just like, just-- - Did you know? - Yeah, like we knew that this is where we were going. - Yeah. - With the storylines. It's kind of a way for everybody. Like, Chrissy was-- - She was feeling a way to feeling a way. - Even Chris was like showing up on this show that's been going for five seasons. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And he has to be the one to play out this storyline. - Hard. - And it actually, it made things uncomfortable for me and Chrissy. - Did it. - Yeah, it was just like, it was all just kind of right there. It was like, "Oh, wow, yeah, here we are." - At this stage of the story. - That was like, yeah, I don't know, I mean, obviously we know it's up and acting all these things. - Sure. - Yeah, it was an interesting switch 'cause it's part of, but you know, and in these scenes, you know, it's very clear that she loves what she does and she wants to be doing what she's doing. - Yeah. - But also, yeah, if you're gonna show up, you need to show up focused and you need to be able to do your job and not interfere with anybody else's job. And as he says, there were lots of other people who had way more qualifications to do this. - Yeah. - But someone so liked your vibe or your energy, so you want to be able to do a vibe. (laughing) And so yeah, they're not off to a good start, but Kate has a nice moment with one of her students where she inspires her to unleash more of her creative potential. - That's right. - And she comes home very excited about that. - Yeah. - And Toby offers some photos from the day. - That's right. - It's very, it's actually, it's a very kind of well-balanced episode as far as what the two of them are struggling with. They both want to be working about the same amount and they both want to be parenting. - Yeah. - But they find themselves in this tricky situation. - This is not an exact parallel, but I have gone away twice to New York to shoot things or whatnot. And it's interesting because she'll call me like, how do kids? I was like, kids are good, they're great. They're like, are you sure? I'm like, yep, I'm here with them right now. They're live and well, they're great. - I mean, they're beside themselves with missing you. - That's interesting because they cannot stop crying for missing their mother. - There you go. - But other than that. (laughing) - Maybe I should lead, in the future, I'll probably lead with that, 'cause I think I made it sound too good. - Yeah, they're fine. They don't even know you're gone. - Oh, it's, yeah, it's, it could not, but it could be like, when I was going for a week shooting and things can get a little hairy when either one of us are out of town, but bedtime in particular, Rachel has a harder time with. I do not. Okay, so when Rachel goes out of town and she asks, how is bedtime? And I say, that's fine. - It's okay, smoke. - I can tell, she's like, okay. (laughing) It must be nice. (laughing) - You gotta, you gotta amp it up a little bit. I mean, there was a little bit of struggle. - Yeah. - The interesting thing too is like, if I'm out of town, like all I really try to do, 'cause my wife is, when she's on the train, she's going and you kind of don't want to interrupt her while she's on the train. Like, she's just like a task-oriented person that's knocking shit out throughout the day. - Yeah. - So you don't want to stop the rhythm. So I try to call when I believe they're supposed to be in the car on the way to school. - Same. - Same. - But they haven't made it to the car yet. - Oh, yes. - And then Brown, and then Brown goes, okay, that's fine. They'll be a little late and that's not a big deal. I have a thing about time. (laughing) There's not enough of it. - And then I'll try to call just as bedtime is about to happen so I can say goodnight and tell them that I love 'em, right? That's it. But when she's gone, she calls way more. She calls way more. And I'm like, oh, you missing your kids, are you? Yeah, that's interesting. You know, I miss my kids, too. (laughing) There it is, okay, wait. I don't want to gloss over anything because we still have to, we started with Kevin and Madison and then we sort of dovetail into Katobe. - I know, we've kind of wrapped up Katobe and Kate's story. - Here's one thing I'm going to ask about Philip because it is his introduction. Do you feel like, you use the word prick? In watching it again, this time around, does he seem overly harsh or does he seem like he has a point of view that should be respected? Like in terms of how you guys abstain. - Both, I think, I think the writers want him to come off. You'd be questioning that, right? - Yeah, he's a little crispy, but you're like, okay. - But also you, okay, you have a point. - But you have a point and like she is a working person at teacher at the school and like, yeah. - It's kind of like there's a time to be professional. - Or you're just English. - There's a nicer way he could absolutely go about it, but. - Yeah, he doesn't embrace her at all. - No, not yet. - Not yet. - Well, should we go to Kevin and Madison? - Yeah, we're going back to Kevin and Madison. - Back to Kevin and Madison because it sort of dovetails with Miguel present day and an Uncle Nikki sort of talking about the rehearsal dinner. Nikki wants to help. He makes some comment about like, oh yeah, Miguel, the guy who's banging my brother's wife. - Yeah. - It's like, whoa dude. - Yeah, it's strong. - Like harboring some real aggressive. - It's strong. - Yeah. - And then they get together. Miguel's just happy. Just like, hey guys, you know, MC, MC Revis. - He's got his three-wing binder. - He's a three-wing binder and I love that he's like, what did he say? Like Bruce Getta or something like. - I was thinking about a Christina, Sam and something or whatever and they can wrap it. - Yeah, he makes Bruce Getta and Bruce Getta. - Yeah, Bruce Getta. - Love him. - Love him. - And then Nikki's like, you know, why are you doing this small food? He's like, hey kid, you want like a bunch of small finger foods or like a big regular food? And just his reaction's like, yeah. - Yeah. - Kevin is over there trying to come up with an email, descend to Randall to ask him to be his best man. A format that Uncle Nikki has. - Already sort of advised against. - Yeah, email. - He's got a little formal. - email. - He's just calm. - Not a little informal. - Yeah. - That's a good name, right? - I like your Gryffin impression. - That's solid, that's solid. And Kevin, you see Kevin is struggling. He's just uncomfortable with it. There's been, listen, things have thawed, right? Especially since the birth of the twins and whatnot. And there's been some sort of result. - Not resolved. - Yeah, there's no resolution. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - It's been acknowledged just like we do need to have a conversation. - Yeah, yeah. - That moment wasn't the right point in time. And so yes, that conversation still needs to be had. - But Nicholas and Miguel, it continues to grow because at one point in time, like Miguel says something and he goes like, you mean the same way you like stole my brother's wife away from him? - He swooped into marry my brother's wife. - Yeah, he's like, what'd you say? And he's like, how about, you know, he completely throws it away. But he comes back and he says it again more pointedly. - And this is the thing, one of the things about this interaction that was set out to me was the first time we've really seen Kevin stand up for Miguel. - Miguel, yeah, barely. - Yeah, he's like, he's like, Nikki, what the hell? - Yeah. - Yeah, the bare minimum. - Yeah. - Oh, what the hell? - What the hell? - What the hell, bro? - But Miguel says no. - And then I'm in a hidden yawn. - Yeah. - Miguel. - Totally. - He's got newborns, you know? - Yeah. (laughing) - If you don't watch our show, that's you. - You're missing out. - Oh God. - But this is kind of where we see Miguel's, Miguel, you know, Miguel stood up for Jack in that storyline and now we see Miguel standing up for himself. - For sure. - We've seen him do it before at his family's, thanksgiving Christmas dinner. - Yeah. - Where his family was throwing shade about him marrying his best friend's wife and he now here he has to do it for Nikki as well. - Yeah. - And his family's throwing shade at Rebecca. - Oh, that's right. - And he's like, you can come after everybody. Like, I mean, I've been perfect. I may not have been around as much, but this woman, don't mess. - Yeah. - Don't mess. - And he essentially says to Nikki that there's only one person I own explanation to and it's the only person I can never give one to. - Yeah. - I certainly don't know one. Two you sure. - Come on. And the idea of swooping in, like it's sort of painting out for the audience is like, hey, man, 13 years went by before the two of us got together. So the idea that like I was just waiting to pounce or something like that, let us all dispel ourselves. - Oh my God. - You know what I'm saying? Go to Mandy Moore, please first. Ladies and gentlemen, from The Flieless Bird podcast. - What a ruff. - Rob Hollis. - Thank you, Rob Hollis. - They do the coffee, - And producer. - And producer. - God bless us. - Rob, do you want to sit down and play a game with us? Sit down and play a game. Well, you can do smallest smile. Let's do the smallest smile. - Okay, smallest smile. And then he has to do the yarn too. - So smallest smile is a Pete Holmes game that he plays. And you look down and you look back up and you try to smile as- - Give us your smallest smile. - The smallest smile. - So here, let's take a look. - Is it a smile? - It's the smallest smile. If you can do a smaller one, I challenge you. So if you look right here into Sterling's camera and look down. - Can you just look down? - Look down and then look up and do smallest smile. - He's cute though, he's kind of cute then. - We look like we had something wrong. - Yeah, it was like a. - If anybody listening to that was us, needs another good podcast to listen to. Listen to one of my favorite podcasts, "Flightless Bird" with Rob Hollis and your co-star, David. - Farrier. - Farrier. - Good. - Rob, thank you. - This is so what kind of you? - With no prompting. - No prompting except for his wife. - I think his wife hit him up. - I know. - She put the bat signal up. - Thank you, Robert. - Thank you. Yawning on camera. - Yeah, I was boring the shit out of her. (laughing) - We're just cream top babies. - He said, am I a cream top? - Cookie boy. - That's maybe my favorite thing you ever have said. It's so good. - Which one? - He's a cream top cookie boy. Cookie boy came from armchair. - Okay. - But I'm a cream top cookie boy. - Nice. - Okay. - We're frosting on a cookie. Does it become something else? - That's a frosty cookie. - Okay. - There's iced oatmeal. - No. (laughing) - Too I know. - With sandwich? - What? - No. - No? - No. - Oh. - Same as Samus made an iced oatmeal. That was delectable. - No. - Free. - Hey, miss and I have beef. No, I'm just like, I'm a chocolate chip cookie girl. - Period. - That's the only cookie you mess with. - I mean, I'll mess with a peanut butter, but like oatmeal is not my jam. Maybe an oatmeal chocolate chip, but like none of this oatmeal with raisin. I don't want a cookie with the raisin. - I hate raisins. - Hey. - Absolutely. - We lost them as a sponsor, but since we used to go out, I can't get it from the raisins. They get stuck. - They get stuck. - If you want back to California raisins, I'd be back in. - Listen. - Remember those? - No, I did love them. - I did love them. - Moms would give me those. These were regularly in line. - Oh, this one made ones. - I hated them. - No, I hated. - My teeth, it stopped. - How about when you got them on Halloween, when people gave out raisins? Did you ever get that? - That's the first question. - It's like people giving out apples and they come on. - This is also, listen. - I know, get their houses burned down. - I know what happened to the piercens. - I know we're jumping around a little bit, but my wife insists out of nostalgia of getting candy corn. Candy corn should be done. - Oh see, I'm a candy corn. - You're like candy corn? - I know it's no divisive. - It just tastes like sugar. - It is. - That's not, there's no flavor. - It's honey. I don't know. I love candy corn. - Do you really? - You like a candy corn pumpkin? Where it's just a little bit more candy corn in one bite? - No, I prefer the original. - You don't like them. - You do? - Just not a candy corn pumpkin. - You like them. - How did not I do that? - Do you like candy corn? - I used to when I was a child. - Okay. (laughing) - Wow. - Wow. - This is like this, but we are on one today. I, yeah, candy corn is one of those weirdly divisive things. - Everybody loves it. - They either love it or you hate it. There's no like, - A lot like Miguel. - There you go, where to pull it back in? - Where to pull it? - Where to pull it back in? - Miguel sticks up for himself. And that's the end. And then Nikki, you see sort of relent a little bit. - Yeah. - Okay, I came a little bit too hard. I can back off a little bit. - More that was us after the short break. - If this is us has taught us anything, it's that a home is never just a home. It's where all the big moments and the small ones happen. - Like you think of all the Pearson house moments. 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And now Airbnb has a whole kind of network of hosts, professional hosts who can do that for you. A co-host can handle guest communication, manage reservations and even provide onsite support. So hosting feels a lot more stress-free. - So it doesn't feel like you're taking on a whole new responsibility. It just becomes something that actually fits into your life. If you're curious about getting started, find a co-host at Airbnb.com/host. (gentle music) - We'll jump back into Madison ends up telling Kevin. She doesn't want to get married at this magical venue. And in fact, he's like, "Well, where do you?" And she tells the story about how her dad wasn't around much when she was growing up, but he took them, her and her mother on this vacation to Japan one time. And she walked around the most beautiful garden she's ever been to and it was this weirdly magical trip. And two weeks later, they got home and her parents told her that they were splitting up. And this beautiful garden just loomed large in her memory and sort of this nostalgia of how good it felt. Being on that trip and her family was altogether and she's like, "There is this garden, it's nothing fancy, "it's not like this other venue, "but if I had my brothers, "I think I want to get married in a place like this." And Kevin's like, "Okay." And she's like, "What? It's not easy?" And then we see Nicky coming to apologize to Miguel about what he said. And Miguel goes, "The call?" No, it was in person. And Miguel kind of goes into this whole explanation. Nicky felt like, "First I get replaced with you." And then you come in and take his wife or what? And I was like, "What am I supposed to think of this?" And then you're going, "And then Miguel basically says, "When Jack asked me to stand beside him "when he married Rebecca, "he didn't ask me to be his best man. "Because in my mind, I think he was always "saving that spot for you." It was a really beautiful way of putting it. And you could tell it really touched Nicky. That's kind of where that storyline ends. And then I believe Kevin calls Randall finally, right? We see him at the computer, I think for a second. And then he's like, "That's not going to email." That's not going to work. He winds up calling. But I feel like we should touch on that after we do Randall and Beth got it, got it, got it. Everybody, right? We're in Philly, Randall. That's making poppers. Beth is making poppers. Alex is coming over to the house for the first time. We know that they and tests are seeing each other. And Beth is really working on her pronouns. They're coming over. I want them to feel comfortable. It's that it's set. I was like, you working on your pronouns, good for you. And she's nervous, but that's what's going to happen. Randall is about to go to a group therapy session for the first time. Beth is like, you know what? Man, just try to listen. You don't have to jump in, both feet and do a bunch of talking. He's like, I am in order. That's what I do. And she's like, just anyway, later for you. There at the house, Alex comes through. Beth greets her with the poppers. So happy to have you here, have a popper. Tess is like, we'll take them upstairs. That's how we're going to do it, right? Mama C is sitting on the couch. She's on the couch. I think pretty much the whole episode. - Yeah. - Except at the beginning when she takes the Us magazine or the Us out of my hands and being like, oh, JLo just likes to do this thing with you. And I'm like, yeah. - She likes Frappuccino. - Yeah, you just like JLo. - You just like JLo. And that's just random sort of thing. Like, when is this lady going to leave my house? Okay. They go upstairs. Beth is downstairs with her mom. Things are kind of quiet up there, right? - She's just studying is an inherently quiet activity. Studying is an important thing. - Yeah, and Deja's like, that's not fair. Like when Malika's over, we have to be in my room with the door open. - The door's closed, that is correct. - Yeah, and she was like, well, the door's not closed right now, and Deja's like, yeah, it is, their door's closed. - And then Beth is like, well, that shouldn't be. It's this interesting thing of like, okay, I think should be even. But like, am I coming down extra hard because I have a problem with who she's spinning time with like this mental calculus is all going on. - This is the only storyline in the hit through the show where we see Beth confused. - Totally. (laughing) - Yes. - And it's so awkward to watch. - It's very true. And so she's like, well, I guess I gotta put my foot down and Mama C is like, tread lightly, Beth and me. I love it when she calls her Beth and me. - I love it too. - It's like one of my favorite things. - I love it too. - Beth goes upstairs. She opens the door, seems the two of them were in the middle of some cuddles on the bed, right? And she's like, are you guys can take this downstairs? And she's like, Mom, what are you doing? And Bergen and she calls her, it's totals. psycho. And she's like, what's your comment? Now listen, I think it's because it's network TV because you could probably go up even higher than that. Yeah. You know something like that. Cause we we're talking about calling somebody out of their name. It normally is a vocative of like, oh, you're such a bitch or something like that. I've never heard that phrase before. I really like it. Calling somebody out their name. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do you ain't gonna call me out my name? So she excuses Alex, right? And Alex Alex is like, test. Yeah. Alex knows who's in the right here. Yeah. Yeah. It's all good, right? Alex, they wound up leaving. And then they later have a conversation, do Beth and and test, right? After she come down a little bit and Beth, did she say, what do Beth say? Well, Jessica uses her of having a look like when Alex let when you open the door and saw Alex and I embracing right now, you had a look. Yeah. And Beth is like, I didn't have a look. And she goes downstairs and then she comes back up to apologize to test later. Yeah. After talking to her mom and says that, you know what, she was having trouble letting go of these expectations she has for tests, right? Yeah. She had pictured her life and what it was going to look like and walking her down the aisle or whatever she said. Yeah. And just like, she's her first born and having to sort of recalibrate now. Yeah. Was just not something she had in mind. Like she loved her unconditionally. Obviously, it's just, it's a process. Yeah. Yeah. And Carol basically was like, I had to do the same thing with you. I pictured the way your life was going to unfold and it took time to see. Yeah. That's what I wanted for you wasn't the way it was all going to happen. Yeah. And that was okay. Mama C. Sir, time is so precious. You blink and your daughter's grown and you're holed up in her house trying to make up for 20 years of not adjusting. Yeah. And it's sort of hit, hit Beth in a way to be like, Oh, okay. Let me adjust. Let me adjust. But it was a very sweet moment between that mother and daughter because Beth just sort of like leans into her mom's shoulder. Yeah. And her mom just sort of like holds her face. Yeah. It was really, really, really, really sweet. Um, and so Beth goes up and says, you know, I, you know, I have to basically adjust, etc. And and test says, like, I know you're trying, which was really sweet. And she said, but I also know that you don't have to try with deja or with Annie. And I wonder for ever going to be and makes me sad. That makes me sad. I wonder if we're going to be close. And she's like, we are close. Like, what are you talking about? But there's, I can't remember the resolution. Was it, was there a full on resolution or was there? No, that was kind of, it was kind of left there. And it, like, okay, but that's life. I kind of like that. Listen, I'm going to tell you something. Like, right now, I got this 14 year old and this 10 year old, right? And the 14 year old is going through his own thing. And, and he's a beautiful boy. And I love him, like tremendously. And, and you do, you're not even conscious of this idea that like these expectations that you have, right? that you haven't even articulated to yourself. And like, like, there's a part of me that's like, I thought, you know, grow up and you'll play this sport and whatnot. And he pivots and does something else. And I was like, he'll have his hair. And then he does something different. And you're like, okay. So he's his own person, right? And it's sort of just like, living with that truth and being like, I have to let them be them, right? I think, I think every parent goes through it. And it, the, the friction is caused by how long or how hard you hold on to an idea versus the reality that is directly in front of you. It's, it's not always easy. Yeah. But it is a necessary part of the parenting process. It's a boy. It's something. It's no joke. It's not for the fainted heart. So that's that storyline, right? Then we visit Randall at this therapy session, middle of the COVID, like, like we said earlier, there's masks, there's space in between the seats or whatnot. But it is a specifically for trans racial adoptees. And there's two new, new guys in the group, Randall, and, and my man, whose name I can't remember at this moment. I don't think he introduced himself. Asian cat. Good act. I remember him. And he's talking about how he grew up on the East Coast with white Jewish parents. He remembers, like, looking out at his bar mitzvah and not seeing anybody that looks like him, right? And there's a whole series of people talking about just sort of these moments in their lives where they felt othered or not fully belonging. And then we show little clips of Randall as a young boy with his dad, right? Or with his mom lying in bed with each other. And there's a sweetness and wonderfulness. But the part that is unspoken is like, what would it be like if I was with the people who I belong to? Sort of thing. You know, the blood, the physical sort of images or a reflection of myself. And like you were saying before, like we were saying before at the park. So this idea that gratitude is the only thing that I have space to feel or that society gives me space to feel is sort of like, but it doesn't mean I'm not grateful. But I feel other things too. And I think it was at one point they asked Randall if he wants to speak. And he thinks about for a second. And I think he remembers Beth's advice. He's like, you know what? I think I just want to listen for today. And because I felt like he was really surprised at what he was experiencing. I mean, that was what I got that he was like like normal, under normal circumstances. He would have spoken. But like, yeah, I think he was really just sort of taken aback by how much he was really taking in the circle of people. Yeah. How much his experience was being reflected. Exactly. Exactly. Right. Yeah. It was a really beautiful moment. Not alone in this thing. There's a phrase in the recovery circles that can be the downfall of people who get isolated or insular in their thinking. And it's terminal uniqueness. Oh, interesting. I love that. You know, where you think it's kind of related to self pity in a way. It's like, I'm the only person that I know one. No one can understand what I'm going through because I am terminally unique. Right. And so to be sat in a group of other people who are saying the exact same, I mean, we've got clips from four seasons of a show of like that. Randall had that moment. And it's kind of a nice awakening of like an unburdening, maybe a little bit. It feels it starts to feel lighter, even though these are heavy subjects. There's a lady who had said something that was really powerful about like, if I had to think she's Puerto Rican. Yeah. And she's talking about how if I had it to do over again, like, I wish I didn't even have this family, because I would have just rather stayed with my bipolar mother or whatnot. Because there's a belonging that's unquestioned, you know, versus this other thing of like, what do I have to do to make sure that nobody sees me as being unworthy ever again? You know what I mean? Like how hard do I have to work to make sure that I stay in the embrace? And she said she's admitted that to her adoptive family. Yeah. And now half of that family has not talking. Yeah. So, okay, then we go to just the end of the episode. Yeah. Kevin Randall having that conversation. Kevin Randall having a conversation, and and Kevin's like, hey, man, it's one of you being my best man. He's like, of course, man, I'll be honest. You know, he's like, I took me a long time to actually even ask you or whatnot. You know, I know there's a lot of things that we haven't talked about. And he's like, you know, I meant that today is being kind of a day. Like I get it. Oh, at a certain point, I was like, we have to just let him. He the man is trying to say something. But I appreciate it because it's true to life. Yeah. Yeah. That's how these things go. Yeah. It's like, let's just kick that hand down the road a little further, say the worst things they've ever said. Yeah. And over time, they go, no, that's okay. That's fine. We're good. Yeah. We're good. And then they never talk about sure. And it might, it might thaw. And it might, but it might never be, quote unquote, fully resolved. Right. Both people think it's been resolved. Yeah. Because someone said, no, it's good. Right. Good. But it's, it's, they'll get there. It's true. Yeah. I mean, it's true to have those things unfold. And also, it's like, who wants to open that can of worms again? Like it's been a day for him. It's been a day for Kevin to, sure. Well, like the day, he's like, you know what? I don't think he's a, he's like, what if I come to you? Like he, to his credit, to Kevin Pearson's credit, he's like, listen, I'm getting married. I think this is like if I'm inside his head, I want to make sure that you stand next to me, not out of a sense of obligation. But like, we got to clear the air before this date. That was an insane, insane experience. Which one? Well, watching them have that fight. Oh, yeah. That was, you know what I mean? It's like, there has to be, Some resolution there yeah, yeah, and the fact that he is willing to be like I'm gonna fly to you Yeah, let's this isn't a phone call. Right. This is an in person thing. You're really busy you if you're hands full I've already talked to Madison. She's you know They have the support there to help her with baby is it's like yeah, let him go yeah Yeah, and have this conversation and I haven't watched it yet, but I remember this episode. I don't all right I was thinking the same thing Watching this one. I'm like, I can't wait to happen. Me too. Well, so in in the therapy session a lot of it will come back to possibly In the therapy session somebody's talking about there Ghost kingdom ghost kingdom. Ghost kingdom which is sort of like you sort of build this thing out And imagine what your life would have been like if you got a chance to be with your birth family, right? And so that's a big part of the next one that's coming up and also just this idea like all three of them all three of these siblings Have their own Experience and memories of childhood, right? You can only see it through your prison until somebody says like Can I show you my prison for a second? Can you take a moment to say it from my perspective and then maybe like what I'm saying will make sense Because I feel like that's a lot of what happens in that next episode It's good. It's a good one. It's a good one. And this was a good one. We had a fan segment We're gonna be talking about some proposal stories. We'll be right back with more that was us One of the sweetest storylines in this episode is Jack planning the perfect proposal for Rebecca and Recreating their very first date. So it got us thinking about all the different ways that people pop the question I wonder some proposals are perfectly planned and others don't go Let's say the way that you imagine So for this fan segment, we ask you to share your proposal stories Let us jump right in and care of you. This is an email from Chiara B. Here we go So to start off my husband Hunter and I met when he was 19 and I was 20 The connection was immediate, but we both felt we were too young and needed time to accomplish some life Before getting into what we both knew would be a serious relationship So we decided to stay friends and give each other time to grow in the meantime. This is very mature Then the pandemic happened With his mom being immunocompromised and myself being an essential worker It was rough for a while there, but we pushed through and started dating in 2021 That back story is important because Hunter spent half of 2019 and the entirety of 2020 making me gifts That's gifts. Yeah, so when we began dating he made me a mailbox and explained that each month I'd receive a letter from the from the year before Corresponding to that date and a gift to go with each one So in 2022 when he told me he had organized the scavenger hunt for me, which I love that would lead to more gifts It didn't strike me as odd right away The scavenger hunt was based on our relationship including people and spots that were important to us and had 21 spots Most of which included gifts one gift was a jewelry holder and a thrift store that was being used to display jewelry for sale I had seen it on a date almost six months before and off-handedly said I liked it He went back tried to buy it was told it was not for sale and then came back with a replacement He handmade so I could get that specific one Anyway, the scavenger hunt culminated to a spot by a creek that we loved where Hunter read a letter to me from himself From two years before saying that if I was reading it It meant that he was right and thinking the moment we met that I'd be his wife Then the book I was gathering clues in revealed will you marry me Tink? Tink is his nickname for me after he proposed he walked up a trail and I was surprised to see my friends and family all gathered for dinner He's a real-life prince charming and I was just the beginning of what's been a beautiful fairy Look at them Those cuties What a sweet guy that is a real Jack Pearson like that is a very Then look at his glasses. He's cute. They're both she's cute. Look at that smash. She's so happy Thank you Kear you heard you heard the story y'all get out there do the work Don't phone it in don't phone it in who's the other next one all right the next one is from Samantha W My husband proposed to me in 2019 on his 30th birthday. We are both March babies at the beginning of our relationship He would leave sticky notes for me to find some obvious some sneaky and I saved them in this wooden box he made for my birthday while he gradually took out some to make this huge sign that spelled out Will you marry me? Oh? During the party he had all of us go downstairs at my sister-in-law's house and had me sit on a stool and close my eyes Then when I opened my eyes he was kneeling and our friends and family Including my seven-year-old son from a previous marriage was holding the sign and I said Finally We had been dating for three years. We originally planned to get married on Halloween 2020 Because it was a Saturday, but due to the pandemic we eloped with my son present at the beach in Lincoln City, Oregon On July 25th 2020. We've now been married five and a half years and have two boys together for a total of three bullies Three boys boy, mom. I love the show in the podcast Samantha W Samantha those are all the sticky notes that make the sign will you marry me that's good? That is really good. That's really really good. Really good. These are some creative. They some this is Jack here some types of I like this. Okay. Okay, so I have one last email from Nadi S. Yes, she says hi, Mandy sterling and Chris My name is Nadi big fan of the show in pod. Obviously This proposal story isn't my story. I haven't found my person yet But my parents proposal stories a good one. So I'm gonna share theirs My dad is Costa Rican My mom is Canadian and they met because she moved to Costa Rica to be a teacher at an alternative school there They hadn't been dating for very long when my mom took my dad to Canada to meet her parents and see where she was from and it was His first time ever traveling her parents my grandparents were tired of Vancouver Island and their beaches for days And so my dad planned a romantic sunset kayak for my mom and he proposed to her while they were out on the water She said no She thought I was too soon into their relationship to get married So it said she said let's move in together Fast forward a couple of years And my dad didn't propose again because he was nervous that she would say no and then randomly one day they were crossing the street She blurted out. Let's get married They were mid crosswalk, but he said yes He always bugs her that he planned a super romantic moment and that she didn't And she said that she was so overcome with love and that mundane moment. She knew she was ready They actually found out a couple weeks later that they were pregnant with me There's no photo of either proposal. Ha ha But I've included a photo of them from that same trip to Canada when he did propose and a photo from their tiny backyard wedding Ah that is so cute What a cute couple. I love that but I gotta say kudos to my man because like hearing no is not the easiest thing But she's like, you know what? We can't shack up Which I think that would have been scarier for me move in No, I just want to get married Wow I love these stories. I love people's unique ways of finding each one is different exactly each one is different Finding each other ending up together Yeah, this is beautiful. I've never met a canada recon Canada recon. Canada recon. Yeah Thank you so much everyone for sending in your stories and sharing them with us And thanks for listening to another episode of the podcast Yeah, show get out there you tell a friend about the show Ha like and subscribe like and subscribe So we are we are edging closer and closer to the end of season five Which means we only have one more season Yeah, incredible. I don't even know what to do It's it's there's the same sort of bittersweetness that I felt in doing the show Was the same thing that yeah knowing that it's coming to an end or not is the same sort of bittersweetness that I feel now I try to with with hold it until it's like When we get to like 618 that will probably be like oh boy. What's what we're gonna do here? Because it's well then it'll be over then it'll be over for real for real But I try to have this attitude of Everything in the season. We still don't know if we will extend we did not sure if and we're listening for ideas Yeah, give us ideas friends if you if you wanted to end with the show let us know If you wanted to keep going and turn into something else It's done. It's done. You're done talking show you can tell us that too. I'll take I want to hear all of it Yeah, I want to hear all of it so accept your takes on lost people were pissed. They were pissed at you Yeah, yeah, it is and you hey, I love I'm entitled to my opinion you are completely and totally entitled to your opinion Christopher Will you look? Look at the camera, we tell them the name of the show, please. - That was us. - He can't just do it with a straightforward gun. - No, it's always like, let me- - That was us. (laughing) - Do it, do it, holding it a yawn. - Yeah, do it, hold it a yawn. 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