Ja'Marr Chase & Joe Burrow Talk NFL Season Preview, LSU Memories & Fashion Shows Stories

Yeah, I just want to win this year, I just want to win. I look these feels like 2021. When was it that you became better than Justin Jefferson? I think the first time I knew you were going to be great was. What's up, Jamar Chase here. We're finally dropping my first ever podcast, Chasing No One. Today, I have a great guest and I have a special co-host. My co-host is Annie Agar, and my guest is Joe Butter. Welcome to Chasing No One! It took me really a long time to get you out of bed today, so I really appreciate you stopping by, brother. I was going to ask, what was the commencing like to get them on the show? It's pretty good. We're just about anything for this guy. You're just about anything for this guy. That's good. That's a good start. Like back to LSU days, how did it bloom into what it is now? I said a biggest thing, I was a freshman coming in and he was a junior. I was going in my fourth year, yeah. Yeah, so Coach always hyping Joe up, like overly, overly hyping him. And I'd never heard of him, I never watched the tape until he came there one day and he was walking around. He walked around pretty cocky, you know, like with confidence. But it was like confident cocky, you know what I'm saying? He just walked across like real boating. It wasn't a problem, nobody had a problem with him. And then I say when practice came, he didn't talk until maybe the middle a little bit. And then the next practice, he came with fire. Like he really came with fire and he was a little more aggressive, he was talking way more. And I think the best story I got with him was just the mic divinity story, you know. That was the first time like he screamed, he yelled, he stood up for himself because at that time everybody at LSU was like messing with him, just trying to pick with him just to see how he going to react. And I'll tell you Joe snapped that day. And I was like ever since that day, everybody was like, you know, we're not messing with Joe ever again. Joe Shicing. Honestly, if you want to talk about that. I think that would be pretty cool. Yeah, I just, you know, I hadn't done anything in my college career yet. I gone through three years at Ohio State and didn't have anything to show for it. I just always felt like I had to prove myself, prove my toughness, prove everything about me. And people just kept trying me like the defense, the culture that LSU at the time was defense was great, offense wasn't. And so, you know, the first couple of practices, people, like the defense was talking crazy to the offense and like nobody's saying anything. And like I wasn't the starter at the time, so I was like, do I say something here? Do I not say anything here? And I was just like, fuck it. I'm going to start casting people out doing whatever I got to do to try to set the tone for the season for the, for my career here. Yeah, like you said, I didn't talk a lot at the beginning, and that's mainly because I didn't really, you know, I was, I was older. We had a young team, you know, I was 21, about to turn 22, you know, Jamar was 18. He's all coming in. And another reason I couldn't really understand anybody, either, that that really accent. Coach, even I don't know how you guys heard anything that he said. Yeah, that's, you know, tough to understand sometimes until you don't, you know, get around him a little more. So I was pretty quiet at the beginning. I'm just, you know, observing my surroundings, figuring out the lay of the land. And then, you know, once I figured it out a little bit, I started being a little more vocal and sticking up for myself and sticking up for the offense and, you know, gotten some fights here and there. That's what college is about. That's when you're young and dumb and trying to prove yourself, you know, those things are going to happen. Since you transferred, I mean, you're coming into a totally different atmosphere, totally different coaching. Now it's like common, you know, you guys played these games of like, what college did the guy go to? We're going to just start naming like five different colleges for it's wild. Yeah. The portal wasn't even a thing when I transferred. So you had to graduate and if you wanted to not sit out a year, you had to graduate and go play. So I was, I graduated in three and, you know, figured that out, but yeah, it was certainly tough to go from one system, playing one way. You know, the Ohio State system was kind of how I played in high school, similar. And then I'd never taken a snap under center before in my entire life and then get to LSU and that's kind of all we did and what we were built on. So that was certainly, took some adjusting. I had really good coaches that I'll have stayed to that, you know, built my fundamentals up. So I was confident what I could do and coach I'll just kept talking about we have, we have these two, these two guys, we got Justin Jefferson and we got this guy, Jamar Chase coming in. You're going to love them. They're going to be great. First opinion of Jamar. What was your, what was the moment where you said, oh yeah, this guy is like, honesty to all one room. Real honest. Yeah. I think the first time I knew you were going to be great was the UCF game at the end of the year. I can't remember how many yards you had in that game, but it felt like you were always open. You got a go ball down the left side and they called you short, they called you on the one yard line. I stepped up that on the pile on. Yeah. So mad about that. I was like, dang, that would have been sick. But he caught my first touchdown pass at LSU, same thing you're doing now. You just caught a short little out route and turned it back up inside. Yeah. Southern. Yeah. Yeah. Southeast Louisiana. But I would say that UCF game was crazy to say that it took us a whole year to, I could say the same thing. I felt like that was the real opportunity where you gave me like opportunities, you know? You didn't really, I was really a route runner, you didn't play that. You didn't play a ton. I was fighting with De Anderson in terms of martial arts. Exactly. And that's when we had JJ, JJ would, and we had Sullivan, Jerry Sullivan, oh my god, love Jerry Sullivan and that. But it would, Jerry Sullivan would not put me in no position to get the ball, like not one time. And we'd go to practice in just one round of routes and Jerry would be like, Justin, come on and make him run around. Everybody watch this. Everybody watch him run around only. And then we get to practice and put us in, he put us there and we run it wrong and be like, that's why Justin's there. We'd be like, we don't even practice it, bro. You know? Was it like that the whole time? My freshman year? Yeah. Yeah. It was like that the whole time. Wow. JJ was at every position with a ball. So, so question. And was it that you became better than Justin Jefferson? I say when I got an opportunity to play, you know, and show off what I could do like Justin was probably just the next year, you know, I had a lot of opportunities where I was moved around in different positions and showed off like, yeah, that was like the biggest thing for me in college. Like I had a lot of yaks yards. Yeah. Was it true? Didn't he like ignore you for a little bit or something? Who Justin, yeah. Justin, yeah. Yeah. These guys. I don't think I ignored you. No. Yeah. I mean, just off of it. But, you know, they ignored you. These, these, Justin and Jamar were always bickering about who's going to have more touchdowns that last year. Yeah. And so, one of them went to game without a touchdown. He's walking around. Yeah. It was like. Wait. Why do you see we're having an attitude? What? Imagine that. Imagine it. Imagine it was batting hard. That's crazy. Do you have a story from Alice You Days? It's like the one story you, you guys remember to this day? Right. I can't even say it was like all fun. It was so much fun in our locker rooms, like, it wasn't that many fights going on that year. Like, when I say every- So it was a good locker room. Like, everything- Everything went our way. Yeah. Literally everything went our way. Like, with the- And we knew it was- They're going to. Yeah, the COVID stuff, like, all that stuff. I think they need to give that- That 2019 team a lot more credit because, I mean, they do already, like, you guys are insane, but- Yeah. There's barely any gap between you and Justin, obviously, like, the insane numbers you guys put up. I just think that team is wild. I want to talk about Alice You, before I even move on real quick, because the Lane Kiff and thing, obviously, is big news. And you guys don't have to talk about it if you don't want to, but I think it's, it's like national championship robust for them right now. Is that the vibe we get from Alice You? Like, have you heard anything from the people you know around the organization? Like- I feel like it's all- I feel like it's all- I feel like it's- I feel like it's all- But do you think it's more so because of the Lane Kiff and situation? I think whenever you get a new head coach and a place like Alice You, then expectations are always going to be high, but- Yeah. Going into every season, it's- If you don't win the SEC, if you don't go to the national championship, then it's like what are you doing? Yeah. You got to find a new head coach, you got to find a quarterback, you got to find something to change it if it's not going that way, because that's how high the expectations are there. And I feel like you got to have, like, the coach for the right environment, like a place like LSU, you know what I'm saying, 'cause- Yeah. It's a lot going on over there. It's a lot of coaching. It's going to curl out there, Brian Kelly was nuts. Yeah, it's a lot of coaching going on over there, and you got to compare it to those kids a little bit. Yeah. So you got to have somebody that can- Number one, hold the people accountable, but number two, just be themselves, and- Yeah. You can't, in my opinion, have, you know, the traditional stereotypical head coach that you're going to have at a- Notre Dame- Right. An Ohio State. Very college- Very college- Yeah. You have to- You have to be able to fit into the culture of Louisiana and get into that and not try to bring your own culture in. Obviously you have to bring certain things in, but you have to mold what you have done and what you are into what Louisiana is. That's a great answer. Speaking about that, how was like the transition from Ohio State to LSU from the quarterback room? Right? Like with different quarterbacks, that was like already top, and then you came here where we was looking for a quarterback, like did they let you come in be yourself? Did they change? Try to change you? They let us find ourselves as players and coaches along the way. They didn't try to coach us into what they wanted us to be, you know, what I'm really good at is I can think critically about what I'm doing and try to fix it in my own way. But if somebody tries to tell me to do something, you know, I'm going to try to do it, but that's not the way that my brain clicks. I want to take a lot of different things in and mold it into what I know I can do. And our coaches gave me a lot of freedom to be myself as a player and find myself along the way and coach me hard sometimes, but, you know, gave me the freedom to make mistakes. You know, coach, Steve Ensminger would get after me sometimes, like there was a. There was a play in my first start, Miami in Dallas and we just ran a double slant and the flat defender came out under the outside slant and I didn't throw it because of that. And he ripped my ass on the phone, he's like, "Why didn't you fucking throw it?" And I was like, "Because what about pick six?" And then the next day in the meeting, he's like, "You know, I'm sorry, you were right." But that's the kind of coaches that we had, they had no ego, they just wanted to make the right decisions and make you the best player that you can be and didn't have the ego to you know, they had a low enough ego to admit when they were wrong and that's what you want out of a leader really. What kind of coaching do you guys respond to the best? It sounds like that's kind of what like Jamara would kind of like do you like when guys like go hard at yours? It depends what kind of mood I'm in and I got a lot of like, he'll tell you. It depends what kind of mood I'm in like. And also now is different from college to now to, you know what I'm saying? Like college, it was like, "I gotta listen, I gotta listen, I gotta listen." I do listen still now, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, but it's like now if I know, I know a lot more about the game than I used to. Like now when I see certain things, you know, I try to be as on the same page as much as possible with him. But if my coach rips me, you know, I take it, but if it's like some shit that I know for a fact, like I could have did better or some shit and he's still ripping me, I'm gonna get like a little pissed off, but coach Troy, that's my god. We definitely bigger on the sidelines, but I can take it. You know exactly what kind of mood Jamara is going to be in as soon as he walks in the door in the morning. You can see it in his walk, in his face, how he sits down. I'm just not a morning person, but if he's in a bad mood, he'll go, and when he does that, everybody knows not to mess with him, but I'm gonna mess with him, and nobody else is gonna do it, but then he's gonna look at me, he's be like, he knows I'm gonna do it. So he's gonna take it and laugh, but he's not really in the mood for it. You do help me in the mornings with that. Is he the same? Well, you come in with that? He's the same every day. I know he's pissed off in the mornings though sometimes. Anytime he's not feeling the morning, I usually ask him, you good, you're gonna sleep last night? He'll be like, well, I didn't, but it's funny, man. Jamara said you have, and I know this could be a quarterback thing, I don't know, but the football mind is crazy, like you'll remember specific things or specific plays, right? Is that you feel that? Do you know that you're like that? You're like, put down the process of you before the play, bro, 'cause you got to know like, you got to come in, know to play that this end of the year, you got to relate to us, end the can. Yeah, so first thing that you're getting after the play is the personnel. So I'm really in the personnel of these guys. We have signals that can do that, but I'm also yelling, and sometimes you guys aren't paying attention, and then I get mad because that costs us, you know, three or four seconds when you only have 40 seconds or 25 seconds, you know, that's a big deal. So sometimes you have new receivers in there that don't know that they have to relay the personnel to people, and that gets a little frustrating because, you know, you're on a time clock, and then, you know, they start calling the plays, I could call it twice, and then usually I'll get in the huddle and call it at the same time as he's calling it the second time. You know, break the huddle, make sure everybody gets lined up, send whatever emotions, you know, check what the front is, check where the safeties are, check everybody's leverages. You're hearing this, right? That's crazy. I don't think people, like the average fan doesn't know this either. Yeah. I don't think they know, because there's certain things like the old line is supposed to hear, and then they're out receivers here, but this is like within, like, all within matter of 15 seconds. Can you say a player right now, or is that? Oh, so sometimes you have two play calls. So it would be like a short one would be, you know, trey-right, 18 zapcan, 19 wash, and then you're that one, you're just reading a specific D-Lime, and depending on what his technique is, then you're going to run the other play, or if there's a blitz to one side, then you're going to want to run to the other side. And so you have to pay attention to all the different indicators that you're getting, where's the nickel in relation to the safety, is the inside, or is the safety outside? Where's the D-Lime lined up, because every team will have a specific indicator for different coverages, or blitzes based on where the D-Lime are lining up in their technique. And then, you know, right before the ball snap, then I'll usually start checking, you know, is the corner off, or is he pressed, and then, you know, sometimes, tomorrow, and I will just have a little signal and turn an isolation route into something else, depending on what coverage you're getting to that side. Now, as many different coverages as he gets, because you can't just leave him one-on-one, so D-Lime will be over top with the corner inside, or the safety will be low with the corner outside, so you have to have all the counters to all those different things, based on what you're getting, because you can't just let him take it out like that away. So there's a lot that goes into every single play. I would say how many seconds you think, like for you, it takes for you to process everything? I try to take as much time as I can, you know, I get a little frustrated sometimes when. A line up too slow. Mainly. I mean, yes. But. I know that pisses you off. But, like, if the play calls in eight seconds too late, now everybody's rushing to the line of scrimmage, now we just gotta run the play, I can't get any of my indicators that I wanted. You know, the personnel gets in a little too late, and then sometimes you still call two plays to the line of scrimmage, but you don't have enough time to see if the blitz is coming this way, and then you end up running a bad play into a bad blitz from them, and that gets frustrating. So there's. I mean, there's so much that goes into every single play and so many things that can derail a play that. Everything has to be. Oh, yeah. So urgent and intense breaking the huddle, and then sometimes you get into a fifteen-play drive, and the line is gassed, and the receivers are gassed, but you still gotta line up with that intent and that urgency, so you can go and execute the play. Yes. What that goes on? You can see that. This is just crazy, because I don't. Like, we sit on the couch, and we can play in about what you guys do, and I don't think they know. Like, I'd love to see the average fan just go for five minutes. No, it's really a lot. They would. It's not sometimes. But you can also see, too, how, like, just in Jefferson's situation, compared to yours, like, we can pray to you guys all the time, he hasn't had that connection with the quarterback because of all the issues the Vikings have had and all that, but, like, your guys' connection helps a ton when you only have that couple seconds in the huddle to figure that out, and you wanna go route is insanely dangerous. So what's. Like, how has that changed a ton, and do you have, like, a look that you give him where he knows, like, it's coming to you. That's all about efficiency. Do our chases down there somewhere. Officially of communication. Yeah. You know, when you have new receivers coming in, you have to build that relationship and, you know, sometimes you want to change something with them, but you have three seconds on the clock and you have to get their attention and then give them the signal you want time for that. Whereas we've been together so long. Yeah. Sometimes it's not even a look, but it's, like, we just know, like, we just both know off the coverage. Yeah. I gotta be there. Yeah. You know, so I think that's probably been the biggest thing I grew in. Just know where I gotta be. Just from off the cover. Yeah. So. That's just wild. Now that he's seen so many things, like he said, he can go ahead and expect that I'm going to do this because he sees the coverage the same way that I do. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then, you know, in practice, now that we've had this relationship for so long, we can get so much better so quickly. We put in a new route and then we can recall something and be like, "Hey, you remember this route that you ran against this team in 2022?" Right. Run it like that. Whereas, with a new receiver, you would have to be like, "Okay, this is going to be your third outside step and then you're going to want to take two steps inside and then, so the safety has to bite it and then you can be them over top, whereas we can just recall something that we've already done and we know it." It's literally, like, backyard football where you used to draw it out on the football, but it's a little bit higher level. Sometimes. Obviously, Bing was drafted me, right, and you sent me a text of day before to draft and was, like, pack a bag. Pack your bags. That's right. When did you know we were going after me or we had a chance of getting me? I was just hoping that, because I think Miami had the pick before us. Yeah. There was that, no, Miami. No, it was out there. back. I don't remember who. I mean I would say at four. Tray lands went three to San Fran. They traded to San Fran. And then Atlanta had four. Yeah. And so it was basically they were sure they were deciding between you, Waddle and Kyle Pitts. And I was just like I hope they. I hope they let you get dropped to five. Because you know, I knew how our coaching staff felt about you. I knew how I had spoken about you to them. And I think it. I think it certainly helped that you took that year off. Because I think you would have gone higher if you didn't. But well, I'm glad that you did. I would have hoped I wanted to win higher. Yeah, because you would have done what you do. No, no, no, no. You know how much you do. And then you wasn't watching those games. All right. Okay. That's true. That's true. But overall, bro, how did you, like once I got there, you know, I'm saying and for me, I didn't know the offense was pretty much the same. You know, I'm saying so when I got there, the offense was the same. And it was pretty much easy for me to pick up. But you know, when I had that that that that preseason BS going on at the drops. And you've seen me like really getting bad on me, bro. Like you was the only person there to like really pat me on my back, pick me up, make sure I was good. And I appreciate that because it wasn't even like I didn't know how to play football. It was just the critics of overall everything being on me. And I wasn't used to that for like a whole year of being on. Yeah. Is it that different coming from Kyle? Like because people still criticize you in college. But that then you're still a kid basically. But now that you're getting paid in the NFL. I don't think it was that big. I don't think it's that big in college. I just think it's it's only bigger than NFL because it's worldwide. Yeah. Oh yeah. And it's like you're the fifth pick. And it's like you're you're you're you're you have so many expectations behind your name. You got to do this. That in a third. And when I tell you I worked my whole offseason, like I never took a day off, bro. I could call my training and I never took one day off. And when I got there, I'm not going to lie. I was a little nervous or I was a little nervous. I haven't played football the whole year. I haven't worked. I don't made it in the whole year. It was a it was a bit of a struggle with me. But overall, bro, how did how did like because you knew how I would play. Right. Yeah. I just had to keep reminding because our coaches would ask me about it. And people in the media would ask me about it. But you know, I had gone through that in college. I didn't play for three years. Like I practiced, but yeah, it's so different practicing and then going into a game because I look good in practice. You look good in practice. I was I was pretty smooth in practice. But for the first two practices. Yeah. Of course, Troy was like, I don't forget Troy, bro, the next year, Troy is like, yeah, I can wait till you made it to your second years. I could finally tell you. He was like, yo, when you first guy here, I looked at T and was like, yeah, I'm just going to be a long season. So Troy was like, bro, I don't know if we going to make it because he didn't know how I was going to play. Yeah. But like, how did you go about like that whole year going into it? Cause I know that was that was your second year, but that was T's first year starting, too. Right. Yeah. And that was my first year coming in. How did that whole year go about itself? Oh, and you just got off injury. Yeah. And I was coming off the issue. Yeah. Talk about that year, how you was prepping and going into that year. Yeah, it was tough because I was simultaneously coming back from my injury. And I couldn't, you know, I would have to take a day off here and there to do my rehab stuff because you can't practice and then do all the rehab stuff you need to do. So I had to take a day off here and there. You were coming off of not playing for a year. So T was, everybody was expecting going into that season. T was going to be the guy that, you know, our bell cow outside. Yeah. And, you know, you were going through that with the drops and people criticizing you and whatnot and, you know, our coaches didn't know that much about you. So they were kind of tweaking too. Yeah. And so I just had to keep reminding on like, hey, the guy hasn't played football for a year. Like, it's hard enough for rookie coming off a great season to come in and be great right away. Let alone a guy that hasn't played in a year to come in and be great right away. And so I just kept reminding them of that. I think I reminded you of that too. Yeah, you did. I think it was, what was it? What was the second precedence game? Not Washington Miami. Yeah. When you dropped that tunnel. Yeah, I was losing it. Yeah. This is in preseason. You know, it was so bad about that game, bro. Troy would not let that go. Troy would literally show that clip in meetings and be like, yeah, I want to see rookie Jamal. He'd do this to all the rookies. All the rookies that come in. He'd be like, I want to see rookie Jamal. He put all my shitty plays on me, dropping every pass. I'd like Troy, bro. Like, you're going to make me walk out the meeting. Bro, you're doing this. You need coaches like that that can keep you grounded sometimes. No, I needed it. I needed it. Yeah. That is wild though. And for rookies coming in, I mean, it's like, it's so unprecedented and so new to them. What is, I mean, do you have any advice for these guys that are literally showing a training camp now football football at the end of the day? Yeah. It's really not that serious. The guys that are going to be great are typically pretty dang good right away. You know, it's going to take them a little bit throughout training camp and through the first couple of weeks. But, you know, training camp is basically six weeks long. They say it's four, but then you have another whole week of basically training camp practices and then you're into the game week. And those first couple games, you know, rookies are getting their feet underneath them. This guy was great right away. He had a hundred yards like preseason was tough. But when the lights come on, you know, I knew he was going to show up. And that's why I was throwing to you in the first game because it was like, Oh, you was targeting this. Yeah. You know what else is what we do. Bro, after that game, Troy looked at me. I was like, Yo, I didn't know you could catch like this. Like, Oh, my God. And it was all it was the under the start of the starter. I'm a little bit he was like, Yo, I he was like, All right, I'm going to start messing with you. He was literally like, I'm going to mess in with you man. I remember that as a fan. People were freaking out watching him. No, they weren't bad. It was really bad. And I didn't know how bad it was until like, you wake up one morning. You see yourself on TV and it's tomorrow, Chase can't catch your football because of stripes. I'm like, when did I say that? Didn't you have it? Was it last somebody? Did you had a coach tell you couldn't be a water receiver or something? Less mouse. Yeah. Told me to play DB. Yeah. When I was in my sophomore year of high school. I never backpedal. I never had a highlight table backpedal in. I was never athletic enough for coaches to tell me to play in other positions. So I just had one. Be happy. It was a quarterback though. I can't see yours good a lot. I don't know. Maybe tie it in. You guys have some jokes now. Do you know what Jamar played best? He thought he was going to go to the NBA. He was telling me that today. He was never going to the NBA. I've seen you shoot though. I'm horrible. Played what? Pick up ball and all or anything. You guys play in other sport and are impressed with how athletic you are. Is that not a thing? Not seeing his, he's pretty good in these. Okay. Let me not, let me not hype him up right now, but he's pretty decent in basketball. I'm not going to lie. He got a nice little jumper. He gives me J.J. Redic vibes. Yeah. Okay. But I still clamped him though. Yeah. Also before you came here, Jamar told me that I asked if he had the same kind of fashion like intensity that you did and he said he had more fashion sense. Is that a thing? Is that a thing? I don't know if it's just because we see it on social media a lot, but your known is like the fashion style. Yeah. I can get fresh sometimes if I'm in the mood for it. Is Jamar right up there with you? Yeah. He's been coming in the last couple of years with some good stuff. One year, you got a little crazy with it. But when we, I had a suit, I was wearing a suit. No, you were like, you were like street wear all the time. Oh, I've been doing that. I did that last year. No, you didn't. It was different. It was different this one year. It was different. So some crazy stuff. But the last couple of years, I've liked it. Is there a fit you guys look back on that you're like, what was I doing? No, not for sure. If you could tell me my craziest fit that you've ever seen me where I give me the craziest fit, hopefully we could find and put it up. I can't think of anything specific, but I just remember the part was an LV Tiger. It might have been something like that. It was usually the time to wear the craziest fits. Is it as you walk it like the tunnel walk to four games? Yeah. That's when you see the most. That's when that's the most you can really be fresh. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Well, sometimes my craziest ones come out when it's like my comfy ones, like onto the plane, like on a long road trip, where I still kind of want to like be a little fresh, but yeah, there's not going to be a ton of pictures. So, yeah, I can get pretty crazy with it. Like what? Do you do that on purpose? You just don't care. No, like I wore this one, like fuzzy puffer sweater with this pair of sweats. And then these fuzzy shoes one time, I think it was to Vegas. Yeah, I don't think I was on the team. No, you were on the plane. Yes. This was 2021. Well, I would say something. I'm sure you did. I'm sure you did. - You let 'em go. - I don't know a majority of the time I probably wouldn't say that. - Like I liked that one because that's right on my alley. - Was this some colorful stuff too? - Oh yeah. - Yeah definitely. - Do you listen to criticism of people you just don't care about? - I've never cared about any of that. - I know that you should, that's ridiculous. - Especially when it comes to like the clothes that I wear. - Oh yeah. - I just wear clothes because either it's comfy or I think it looks good. - Like I really don't care what anybody says about the kind of clothes. - Obviously I've been telling you this in the past because I said bro, you've been really stepping the shit up like you've been-- - He's been proud of me. - No seriously. Joe has been coming and I've been like, what the hell? - Hey where'd he get that from? - Since he's speaking about fashion shows. - You've been any fashion shows this year? - Yeah I went to Milan. I went to the Tom Brown show. That was pretty fun. I was pretty fresh for that one. - You walked in it? - I didn't walk in it. - I think my walking days might be over. No more back-out, chest-out Joe? - I don't know. The right opportunity would have to pay for it right now. I don't know. - Is it fun for you guys to walk and show? Do you enjoy doing it? - Is it a little awkward sometimes? - I would bet. Yeah. - It's a little awkward sometimes. - I've only done it once and I enjoyed it. One that I really was excited about would have to come around for me to do it again. - What would be like the dream show to walk? It's like a special brand you want to walk for? - Yeah. - I walked it, uh, Vogue World, Vogue World, me and Justin did. That was fun. - Yeah. - Did they prep you for a show? 'Cause when I walked, I had to go in like, hours before just to get like- - Is there a specific way to walk? 'Cause for women there's a specific- - No it is. - Like you have to walk a certain way in a certain speed. - Really? - Yeah you do. You do. - It's just- - You know as athletes were so used to everything starting right on time and everything being so detailed and the fashion world is not at all that way. - Yeah. - So like you go to a show, they say it starts at six, it ends up starting at like 6.50 but I get there at 5.45 because it says it starts at six and now I'm the first person there and I'm like where is everybody? - You know what we call that, right? What? Black timing. - I'm just saying, we felt like black timing. - Yeah, that's what it is. - I don't know what it is. - Look at your thing. - Take it about high. It's literally me like, it's black timing. It's a real thing. It's a real thing. It's a real thing. - But so they tell you how to walk and then is there like a lot of prep before and with the- I was asking you earlier, they'll pick out the outfits for like you don't put the pieces together at all. - No you don't put the pieces together. I mean you could put the pieces together but majority of the time they're gonna let you choose out of like three out face and this is what you could do. - And you could keep it all. Do you mind what I'm saying? - Sometimes. - Occasionally. - Occasionally. But like when I did the walk for the shows, they had arrows down before they practiced and we had to do it at a certain speed even timed us. - Really? - Yeah bro. It was for Boate. - Do you worry about tripping? - No. I was just more like nervous of like everybody looking in my eyes. - Yeah. - Like I didn't- - I made him laugh if the- - Yeah you did. - The Super Bowl show. The GQ. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Oh really? - Yeah, I was walking. - I was walking. - That's when I had to- - I had to lie in the game. - You had to lie in the game. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And that's why he was laughing. - I just looked at him and laughed and he knew exactly what I was saying so he started laughing too. - That's where that connection's not great so I'm done. Well, this is a good segue into the international game this year because Madrid is gonna be huge for the Bengals. I think it's really cool. What do you guys think about international games first of all? - We do enjoy it. - Well, that's true. - But do you enjoy the concept of them? Like do you think it'll be really cool to play? In Madrid? - Yeah, I think it's gonna be dope. That's something I've always wanted to do. Yeah, I mean, I think it's great to grow the game internationally. That's not something that, you know, 15, 20 years ago, people were too excited about what the NFL and I think it's growing a little bit. - There's a ton of international footballs. Huge out there. - Yeah, they sell out most games and I just wanted to be a part of that. I think we are, you know, we're some of the best players in the league and some of the most marketable players in the league, so, I think we can help grow the game with these opportunities. - They're not just saying it's early, he remembers like the brand of the things that was very rare. - I'm gonna start fact checking and just bring up random games and see if you remember. If I do that, if I say, "Hey, what happened?" Do you remember this? Oh, I know it. Somebody brought up because you were at Matt Life for the World Cup. Somebody said, "Does anybody remember the last time Joe Bro was at Matt Life?" And you had like a 50-yard scramble for touchdown. Do you vividly remember that play? - That play? - Yeah. - Yeah. - That's why. - Well, it was scramble. That was, it broke down play actually. - Well, they played. - Yeah. - It was, they played man on the back end, but they brought a, 3-D Lyman over here we called a giant front. One over there. They brought a nickel pressure, but the nose tackle didn't get all the way into the B gap on the other side, so the backside and high rushed, and there was just a lane right there. And our knew it was, man, it was like third and 18, I think. And so, I didn't think we were going to be able to throw for it, so I was just like, take the chance. - No, the first thing you told me right there was, up to you score. - What did I say? - Did I look fast? (laughter) - No. - All the first thing you said, I did, you got to, you guys just out loud, did I look fast? (laughter) - As seen on Twitter, the White Stripe game is near Zeevno, and that's where the fans, I had to look this up with that meant, well, you guys obviously are going to wear all white, but fans are supposed to wear white and black, so it creates a cool stripe in the stadium fans. Don't mess that up. Is that pretty cool for you guys to see, like, will you be able to notice that? I mean, there's a ton of hype around it, the fans are super excited. - I don't, I won't, I won't be able to tell, I won't be able to tell. - I don't particularly care. - It's not like you have 11 guys coming after you. - What jerseys we wear, what the fans wear, as long as they show up, they're loud, they're excited to see us, I'd play in shorts and a t-shirt, whatever they got for us, I don't really, I don't care too much about, you know, all that other stuff it's going to make for some cool pictures, but. - Love it, cool. - And it's near Zeevso, hopefully. - The whole stadium just looks clean, like, you can never really see what people got on for us. - Yeah. - It's really clean when it's all white. - Maybe that's a good question about the fans, bangles fans. What is something that stands out about them, other than their die-hurt loyalty? - But are they like, I mean, you, no, obviously, had a ton of other experience at the NFL fan bases, but compared to like college fan bases, and then the bangles, what do bangles fans have that maybe no other franchise has? - I don't know, man. I've seen a lot of costumes. - Yeah. - They do a lot of have a lot of costumes. - I've seen a lot of costumes here. - A lot of grown men and face paint. Anything that I see a lot, and a lot of paint. - Yeah. - They do a lot of paint. - Yeah. - And the face is here. - Maybe that's a Ohio thing because Ohio state fans are kind of the same way. - Well, yeah. - That one die that goes to every game. - Yeah. - And he's got his face painted every time. - Yeah. - It's because in Ohio, we have nothing to do, but-- - They get really passionate about very niche players on the team to, like, roleplayers. They decide that they love, which I think is really cool, because those players deserve more recognition. But I don't think that's the case with a lot of fan bases. - Yeah. - They're bit. - Yeah. - They'll hook on to a guy. - So that's the season coming up. And you know, I'm one of the guys that's like all about goals, personal, I think I'll say personal goals, but goals in general, you think you have like, do you go on the season with goals? And if you do, just give me like one, one of your goals. - Yeah, I just want to win this year. I just want to win. - I don't know. - Very. - No, the rest will take care of itself. - Yeah. - You know, I think we'll break a bunch of records eventually and, but I think we're going to have a really good team that can have a chance to win every game that we step foot on the field for. And I know, I don't know about you, but I can really feel it in my bones and my soul in OTAs this year, different from yours past, where, you know, we brought in a lot of the right guys, a lot of the right people with the right mindset to go and chase this goal of winning a Super Bowl and winning as many games as we can and being the best possible team that we can. I felt it from our D-line. I felt it from our defense, you know, our offense has the same guys as years past. So, you know, we've felt that for the last couple of years as good as we've been. But, you know, these veteran guys that we've brought in on defense to be able to help our younger guys. - That's got to be a thing too, because like you guys are doing your job on offense. So to see the organization back you up and get these guys like a Dextral Arts on defense. Like that's got to feel a little bit of weight off your chest because of that. - I just think it's big, just because of the voices we have on the impact that we have. - Yeah. - And it was time to have that opportunity. - Oh, yeah. - You know, and like you said, the energy wise, I can feel it too. - Really? - The fact that our defense talks a little trash, I like that. - Yeah. - You know, and I don't know if it's me pissing everybody off, but I do like the fact that they talk in for themselves. - Yeah. - That's what we need. And look, he feels like 2021 all over again, when the guys are talking about a trash, because we had a lot of guys who were talking on defense, so. - And they were like the guys that stepped up last year, they were young. Like they were rookies. I mean, you had some guys that did step up, but now you've got these bad guys coming in. Hopefully they can back you guys up a little bit more. - You're most excited for the most on defense. - I'm just excited to see Dextral out there. - Yeah. - I'm excited to see Dextral out there. - If he does, if he gets a sad. Well, no if you score I got to do it. Can you please all right? All right, I got you that would be so hard Yeah, I was hanging out with Dex a lot really a lot this off Yeah, first impression of him um quiet soft-spoken guy. Okay, but then great words, you know the more I've Been around him. You know the more energy It's only he's not like that when you put a helmet on I'm excited to see it. I'm just excited You know, is he a big trash dog? I don't know. I don't know they said they said it, but but I backstay they say he talks some shit Good really good. My first time meeting him. It was like I thought I thought I'll talk to a big baby He was like he said soft-spoken. He was like very like soft-spoken and I was What's up? And then um we got on a field and I heard a little more bass in his voice out like oh wow That's funny. Yeah, I think that's kind of he is remediate too like I don't we don't see that side of him really well Yeah, I don't need to see that Overall just very excited for the season. Yeah, I'm excited to see Dex and uniform, you know, we had him on media day and I was like man Those stripes look good on you bro. Yeah, I'm just excited to To see what he can do for us You know, that's not something that we've really done in the past just trade a first round pick for a player like that Right and I know the fans were excited. I was just like just as excited I'm excited to see what that Delan can do this year. Yeah, yeah Since we're getting older now, you know a lot of things now is like more business afloos, right tell me about like like your biggest investment or your biggest endorsement equity-wise or just in general wise Like you felt like you made the best decision on you know, I don't really have too many endorsements. I have body armor. I have Kroger I have Aloe and those those are the three that are that are long-term for me right now I got fanatics, you know, Aloe was exploding Really during COVID because everybody's on social media and they you know kind of harnessed that yeah, and that's how I for sure It was all yeah, I got a lot of influencers wearing their stuff. Yeah And then I signed with them. I think after the 2023 Season and you know, they're great to work with so fun to to get to know those those people. I like brands but And you get to know The leadership you get to know the people that work there And I feel like some of the big sports brands, you know, they just sign an athlete send you a couple cleats a year and You sub in somebody I feel you know, you never meet with their their leadership. You never talk through things Like sign with the brands when they do stuff. Yeah, because then they get to know you they get to know what you like and they can create cool custom things for you true that make you excited and I actually want to wear it and yeah And that plays to people to like people they're marketing to like fans when they see that then they know you're actually involved with the brand Exactly exactly and those are the kinds of things that that I like where you can build that personal relationship and turn that Brand deal that brand relationship into something that you want it to be as opposed to Just sticking a logo on your back and going out and playing. So what was the best financial advice somebody gave you to Whether it's a brand related or just your future coming into your NFL career that first rookie deal Just try to live off your endorsement money You know, you'll make enough off the field to to live, but you know going into the NFL You expect to have a long career and be great, but that's not always how it plays out And then you see guys that you know spend a lot of their rookie deal money and then they end up Stinking and don't get a second deal and now they're You got to go find a job immediately because you got bills to pay whereas if you Position yourself off the field in a way that you can live off of that and then You know really you should be able to if you're a first-round pick You should be able to retire after playing four years of Football if you live just on off-the-field money and live within your means for me. I would just say like Just like learning how to say no. It was the biggest thing for me because I'm a I'm a nice guy I want to take care of my family as much as I can make sure if I sit you with it, but I really felt like I found out my 30 year going into the NFL like like I got to start saying no I'm saying and I'm not really a big spender guy like that into the all season comes, but I barely spend that much so My biggest thing was just trying to say no to like my loved ones, you know, and that was and still hard to this day, you know, so But it's good to have that bound eventually you gonna overcome it. Yeah Yeah, but my last thing is, you know, I'm gonna do this all my guess, you know, not the end before they leave. I just want them to tell Either the best story or the crazy story Not football like life story anything around you ever happened like something either the world doesn't know yet It could be like well. What realm? What what time of my life school? It could be high school Parties it could be college. It could be just something that people don't know yet my high school was very Very unique. It's uh, I grew up in Southeast Ohio, Appalachia We we didn't have a Mall or anything like that so Like if we wanted to go shopping you have to go to Parkersburg West Virginia, which was like 45-50 minutes away But it's so Ohio University is there a lot of like in the 60s 70s 80s a lot of hippies from around the country Move there and ended up staying because they loved Athens. They love the the place in lifestyle so it's a very liberal town. It's a very like Tideye weed Partying like when you think when you think of like like the people of Scooby-Doo like to do it Yeah, yeah pretty much like if you like you think of like the grateful dead you think of You know hippies in the 60s and 70s. That's that's Athens and it's such an interesting mix of people because you have those people and then you have Professors kids that come in from other countries and then you have like the stereotypical Hillbillies from Appalachia too and so there's so many different kinds of people that I grew up with and You know, I always said this when I was at LSU. I really think that helped me come and fit in in Louisiana right away because I was I've always been around so many different social people from socio economic backgrounds racial backgrounds and You know was able to be friends with all of them and fit in in a lot of different situations and You know that helped me at LSU because I was that culture was so new to me That that was something I had never really experienced, but I did have experience Fitting in with different kinds of people and and being able to relate to them You know, it's a very poor area That's why I ended up starting my foundation for food insecurity mental health You know a lot of kids from that area struggled to Have fine food when they leave the school because they eat school breakfast they eat school lunch, but then they go home They might not be able to eat So I just had so many different experiences in in high school that prepared me for where I'm at today and Maintained so many of those relationships. You've met all my friends from home. I have a lot a lot of Interesting characters. Yeah, I've heard a lot of his name snake. Yeah, you know snake. Yeah You know mean snake, you know snakes a designer snake, you know the the cleats that we love unique though Very unique people. Yeah, that's that's what Athens Fosters it fosters an environment that you can really be yourself and feel comfortable doing that and That creates unique people that like do a lot of unique things You know, I loved growing up there because because of that it's not like I mean you've met a lot of people from Like the private schools in Cincinnati like I love those people, but it feels like a lot of them are the same person you know what I'm saying and Athens is just not like that. There's so many different personalities and and people and Different looking people people watching and Athens is unbelievable So give me give me the crazy story with your snake me and snake give me that give me give me that Is this how did the word the name snake come to be so? My trainer now his name is Dac Dac played football for my dad and then he became an assistant strength coach at Ohio University and They're not making a lot of money when your assistant strength coach at Ohio University so he trained people on the side like me my best friends and Snake when his name is Micah when he when deck was training him He was stretching him out like a normal hamstring shreds, but his leg was shaking and deck was like Your leg is shaking like a rattlesnake, and so then we just called started calling him snake. Wow from from that point on Snake was so snake was a fresh from when I was a senior. I didn't hang out with snake too much in high school Snakes older same age. Snakes older brother is a kaya. You've met a kaya too He was my best friend in high school, and then you know as we get older Then we started hanging out with snake snake a little bit more Yeah snake is definitely unique the cleats that that we designed this year snake and I did that together You'll you'll see those next week Practice that one day. Oh, yeah, the ones I work practice the one day. Yeah, so we we finished we had a couple more prototypes We switched up a couple more things is how he does then he designed. Yeah, snakes a snakes a designer his brand is called live to love Okay, and I've won a lot of his stuff over the years and We've got to be a story a story between you. I'll give you I'll give you one about About my friends a kaya you've met a kaya before we played basketball together, and we we would go on the road student sections would like always come up with weird chance towards it's pretty You know sometimes can be a little racist area at times and student sections would often think he was Native American and Do like the Tomahawk chop Tomahawk chop at him more like do some kind of Races Native American chant yeah towards him and it's guys Jewish and he would always be like hey guys like I'm not I'm Jewish I'm not Native American You don't have you don't have you you're doing this, but it doesn't even make sense like you think you're doing something funny But it's not even yeah, it doesn't make sense. Yeah, here a pretty cool guy. Yeah, it's like when you laugh like a Sibling does something and you laugh along with them takes out all the wind from there. Yeah, exactly. It's pretty a chance Smart guy, yeah, but I appreciate you today coming stop, but I'm always a great guy Glad you stood in the rain for a good hour for me Thanks for everybody watching and tuning in to my first episode Chasing no one Subscribe on YouTube follow us on social media. This was powered by overtime once again. Let's thank Joe burrow Joe B Joe Shaiste the best quarterback in the lead And my favorite my best friend