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It’s Even Worse Than We Thought...This Changes Everything for MAGA

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It’s Even Worse Than We Thought...This Changes Everything for MAGA

The transcript offers a critical examination of political hypocrisy, LGBTQ+ rights, and media narratives in the United States. It centers on the tension between conservative rhetoric and actions, particularly how Republican figures and media outlets often demonize LGBTQ+ communities while privately engaging in fetishized or exploitative behaviors. A key case study is a lesbian bar in Massachusetts that faced internet backlash after removing mandatory masking, revealing how marginalized communities are pressured to conform under political scrutiny. The speaker argues that conservative attacks on trans people and queer identities are not random but serve as strategic tools to mask deeper policy failures and suppress bodily autonomy. This is especially evident in attacks on Title IX, where policies are reinterpreted to target transgender athletes while ignoring the real harm to victims of sexual violence. The narrative also highlights the role of independent media in providing truthful, community-driven coverage, contrasting it with the sanitized, manipulated reporting of traditional outlets. The discussion underscores that the real threat is not just to queer visibility, but to democratic values like bodily autonomy and self-determination. The author calls for a coalition of progressive and moderate voices to counter entrenched power structures, emphasizing that true change requires both political courage and a deep commitment to radical inclusivity—especially for those who have long been excluded from mainstream power. Ultimately, the piece argues that progress depends not on isolated victories, but on dismantling systems of oppression and redefining what it means to be free and seen.

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Observe the North American dad, 50s, great polo collection. He enters his vehicle information on Carvana and offers appears in minutes, remarkable. He squints, reads it again, smiles and says, "Dang, that's a good offer." The highest form of approval, no haggling, no hassle, no one called him boss. He's still on the couch, astonishing. Sell your car today on Carvana.com, pick up these may apply. I used to work for the Republicans years ago. What? Yes, I got picked to be like the caterer for Mitt Romney's 2012 R&C down in Tampa. And the things that I learned from this were, yes, it was huge, and it was really great and wonderful, but Republican women are lesbians. Okay. I knew it. Joining me, welcome to "I've Had It Weekend." We have a digital journalist, podcaster, and creator of Under the Desk News, Under the Desk. You really do it under the desk, right? I did. Yeah, for years. I was physically under the desk. Then Trump won the second time. We had to come out to fight, but come November, we're going right back under. Under the desk. It's V-Sphere. A lot of you probably know her. She's a gigantic platform, and you know we like to guest independent news. I think that's where it's all at, don't you? That's where it's at. I mean, with the conglomeration of legacy or what we call "Trade Media" on my show, it's just like you can't really trust that those people are able to freely say everything that they actually want to. Independent media, lower budgets. More honesty. Bigger mouth. Bigger mouth. Yeah. That's what's up. All right. Let's do a little check-in with the lesbians. Okay. With the lesbians, let's first talk about what's going on with some bar in Massachusetts. Yes. Okay. So in Western Massachusetts, and Rachel Maddow actually had to weigh in on this because she's from this area. Okay. This is sort of like our gathering zone. Okay. There's P-Town in the summer. There's Northwest Massachusetts. This is where we raise some of the best and most qualified lesbians. But out there, it's about radical inclusivity, expression, being yourself. So there was a bar called the last ditch, which had set itself up in the basement of a Mexican restaurant. And they had opened in 2025 as a COVID conscious place where there was mandatory masking so that immunocompromised lesbians would feel comfortable coming out, having a Kiki, having fun. Unfortunately, not enough immunocompromised lesbians came out. And so this woman who runs the bar went $50,000 in debt. She was living in her truck. She's like, I have to bring in more people. So she said, how about one night a week, mask optional. If you want one great, and if you don't, maybe we could bring in some new people just to try and keep the space alive. And the internet went crazy. It wasn't the people in her community necessarily criticizing her. It was folks from outside. And there is this one person from Aurora, California, who ended up becoming sort of the center of the story for saying that they wanted to fire bomb the bar to teach this woman a lesson about sacrificing immunocompromised people for capitalist gains. And she was like, the bar is going to close if I don't get more customers in. And so it's been a wild week for us. Yeah, so just so I get to summarize, the immunocongence lesbians were fine with her opening it up one night a week. Most of the community was fine. They had a little meeting. The Boston Globe went and they filmed it. A lot of the community was like, we totally understand we want to be able to keep this space. We don't like that you're doing mask optional. What could we do? Could we be doing COVID tests at the door? Could we be what else can we do so that people don't feel freaked out? But there were some people in there that were like, you're a fascist for taking this away and you never care for this community at all. So of course, the woman who owns the bar is crying and trying to say like, I'm living out of my car. I'm $50,000 in debt. I've done everything I can. She innocently says, maybe it's best to close the bar. I always wanted to go to clown school. Maybe I'll go to clowning school, which didn't help the story, John. Oh, no. So now people are like, you're a clown. And I'm like, I hope she gets to be a clown. I hope she gets to have that whimsy in her life after all this. Yeah. And you know, I forget that there is a clown school. Yeah, it's a very serious clowning. It's physical comedy and like movement. So it's like a part of acting school, but clowning. I mean, what I want to imagine about this mast lesbian bar is that that is where the gauge end is. Well, that's the root of the gauge. That's where the physical copy of it is. So I don't want to reveal this to everyone, but just to one trusted ally. Yeah. Yes. In the lesbian bars, this is where we're starting to recruit and place stories about Republican lesbians. Like maybe you heard Erica Kirk is a lesbian, Candace Owens is lesbian, Lauren Bober's do lesbian stuff. I think it's because they're jealous of our clown school basement, immunocompromised COVID conscious bars. And they want to get in. Let's talk about campus. Yes. This is a woman who has devoted her career to a project called Becoming Bridgete, where she is laser focused on the life of first lady of France, Bridgete McRome. Oh, yes. And she has had a multi part series in trying to say that Bridgete was originally, I believe, her brother, Jean. Yes. She's trying to say they like switched bodies like working style. Yes. And so now some person on the internet has done a deep dive. And my son sent this to me. And it makes me always so happy when my son sent me what's in their algorithm because it's all like very good left leaning stuff. So I'm like, okay, that's good. So he's like, mom, Candace Owens is a lesbian. I was like, source question mark. And then he sends me this tweet that, of course, I just, you know, cancels deep in, right? And oh my gosh, how do you feel about that? How do you think the committee in the lesbian committee? The lesbian committee. We're going to vote on it later this week. Because the thing is, I need to know that you're here for the right reasons, right? You need to be a lesbian because you actually love women, not because all the men use surround yourself with hate women. And so now you're trying to like maybe get in with us just for a little love and affection. Yeah. And so we got to make sure that you're here for the right reasons. I'm not sure if Erica, Lauren, Lauren Bobert, maybe Lauren Bobert strikes me as good fun time. She could probably hang with bisexuals and lesbians. She's, she's a good fun time. But Erica Kirk and Candace Owens, I don't know if they're here for the right reasons or if they just are in community with men who hate women. And so they're like, I need to balance this out with women who love women. Right. You know, there has been this new thing that's very popular right now. And where I'm from, Oklahoma City, the amount of women that have, that were married in a heterosexual sense lived in kind of a white picket, picket fence, idyllic from the outside with the husband and kids. And then there's a divorce. And then there is a girlfriend. Yeah. It's unbelievable. The late knife lesbianism is on the right is in America is, you know why? Because for so long, I think heteronormativity was so pushed on people. And unfortunately, because of the AIDS epidemic, we didn't really see a lot of elder gay folks. I mean, gay men were the first ones like really out and in culture per se. There's always been like lesbians, but we don't usually get the like TV shows and headlines. So as we started to turn the corner and people were aging out of, it used to be like, you really didn't see a gay man over like 30, 40 years old and now you do. And so I think people are coming out late in life because they're like, wow, I can like actually see a possibility model for myself. I see a life, you know, gay marriage became legal. I think that was really big for a lot of people feeling like they could have a family. They could be accepted in society. There are protections for you not just being able to get fired from your job from your gay, if you're gay anymore. And I think in addition, men are being taught to hate women. They're not being taught to love women forever and ever. And so if you've got a man that you've been with who you're the first wife, right? He marries somebody younger, tries to start over whatever that case may be. Maybe you're not looking for that the second time around. Maybe you're looking for more companionship, better sex, comfort, the ability to be yourself. And now you can see this as like a possibility model, a community for yourself. What do you make of shows like hunting wives where there, you know, these women live in Texas and they're married, very mag, very Republican, very Christian, very gay at night, very, very gay at night. And when I watched it, I just thought this is not that far off, at least from the world that I lived in in Oklahoma City, especially if I was around a bunch of evangelical Republicans. Yes. The duplicity in the lifestyle that these people live is really incredible. So I used to work for the Republicans years ago. What? Yes. Okay. You were Republican. I was in the way that like, like my dad voted for John McCain, so like I did, you know what I mean? And then I think there's a lot of people. So I was in the culinary world. And I got picked to be like the caterer for Mitt Romney's 2012 RNC down in Tampa. But I was like maybe 26 or 27 at this time and when you're like young and you know, like, when I say catering, people think cater waiter at a hotel, I mean, like high end social catering, like private chef type stuff, bougie ass billionaire, very bougie, a lot of money, a lot of social power, a lot of whatever. So when you get asked to do these gigs and you're young, you're sort of like, it wasn't as like political as it is now like I would never do it for Trump. But I was like, okay, Mitt Romney 2012 RNC in Tampa, we're going to be going in. We're improving spaces. I get to do 250 different events, it felt like the biggest opportunity of my life. And the things that I learned from this were, yes, it was huge. and it was really great and wonderful, but Republican women are lesbians, because every, okay, I knew it. I'm telling you, every time I have been approached by a woman after way too many glasses of Kim Crawford, Saviom Blanc, or Joshua Sellers, Chardonnay, or the Kendall Jax and Chardonnay, really makes people gay, I don't know why. They would always be like, you know, you're so chill. And I'd be like, please don't do this. Please don't do this, 'cause like I look, I guess I look enough like what they would imagine, like a man should look like, and men don't dress or do their hair care like I do now. So they're like, that's enough of a look. They get drunk, they get a little lesbian. And every time it was like a Republican woman who was married, who had some kind of power that I had to be like, no, thank you. And they're like, you don't want a chance to be with all of this. And I'm like, no, I don't, like, yeah. We have our own women. And like, they're great. Lesbians are, you're like, you're a full species. I went to date a lesbian. I don't want to give you, you know, Republican politicians wife, some sort of experience that I feel like your husband wants to maybe get in on to. It was very like, we saw you across the bar, all through the time that I was in Tampa. And I just, I find that very fascinating, 'cause then they go out and they pretend like they hate gay people, they hate trans people, but they're fascinated with us as a fetish. And I think that's a lot of where the bad policy comes from too. - I agree. I think that oftentimes, this is my personal theory from being a progressive atheist in the Bible belt. What I see in Republicans, specifically evangelical mega Republicans, is a desire to be punitive through legislation and systems towards the object of their desire. If you're a straight man, then you want to slut shame women by making abortion and birth control illegal. So that they are identified as somebody who had premarital sex, and therefore their dirty and off the list of marriage. And then the same, if you take Lindsey Graham, the late lady Graham, or others that I tend to get a gay dark ping-fram that are governing us right now in the mega regime, that's why they're so laser-focused on the LGBTQ+ issues. But to your point about Republican women, I was in a pickleball group in Oklahoma City, quite the pickleball player, but that's another podcast for another day. And it was half lesbians, half heterosexuals. And one of the lesbians in the group, Darling Lever, but more masculine presenting, and the amount of Republican Christian women, and these aren't like mega women, but Romney John McCain, that would say, well, I just think she's really attractive, that really, and so I, I mean, this is, of course, anecdotal, but I saw that, I thought, and I remember telling my friend, I was like, boy, these straight ladies are really like, they have my whole life, and the more conservative they are, and the more religious they are, the more they approach me. - Do you know why? 'Cause I think they think we'll keep it a secret, and they want to be sexually adventurous. A lot of these women, you know, probably got married, young, head kids, young, have been, like you said, from this evangelical, very strict sexual, like, norms place. So they think, well, if I'm with a man, my husband will find out, or I could get pregnant, or I could XYZ problems, but if I'm with a woman, maybe she will keep the secret for me, and I'll be able to have these sexual adventures with somebody who either won't be believed because the people that I roll with, think of those people as low or less than, or we'll keep it a secret. And so that's okay. - I'm glad we're talking about this, because I think there's a real exploitation happening to the LGBTQ+ community, where, when I first heard stuff about, like, people being on this spectrum, whether it be gender, or whether it be sexually, because I grew up in just such a binary world, but very progressive. I was like, well, that seems kind of weird. You either like boys, or you like girls, or you either are a boy, or you are a girl. But really, that's been kind of like propaganded, because I do think probably a lot of people are on the spectrum of these things more than they realize. And I think a lot of men, especially in the manosphere, where it's uber, uber, uber toxic, I think at times I get, again, another personal theory. They're watching porn, and they get excited when they see the penis. And then they think, oh, God, that's gay. I'm gay. And then they start this whole anti-gay stuff outwardly, and then they go back to the porn again, and I was like, well, I kind of liked what that guy did. Does it mean they're gay? No, but they could have a gay excitement moment, but again, it's spectrum-ish. - It is spectrum-ish. And I think with men in pornography, in particular, we did a study on this for a sub-stack piece of wild back on, like, what are the trends in pornography, and like, what are men watching? And the two dominant categories for men are military and authoritative porn. That's number one. So, like, when they're searching, they're searching, like, hot, marine-fuxular type stuff. And that's the number one category, and it's because-- - Wait, is that a man on, man on, man? - Yes. - Wait, so let's reverse a little bit. Men are searching up. - Yeah. - For men. - Yes. - Man on, man. - Yes. - Military. - Yes. - Bossing each other around. It's one of the top categories, based on-- - Okay, what was the other one? - I love this shit. - A lot of them are nasty, like, you know, subservient, awful, treat women terrible stuff. You know, it's sort of like, I think, like, rape fantasy is number two. You know what I mean? That's great. But that's because men don't see, not all men, also. But many men don't see sex as an intimate connection. They see it as a power play, or a way to exhibit their masculinity, or to get something from someone. Because that's what they've been trained for, right? As women, we grew up, we were trained. This is your special gift. And you can only give it to one person who's very, very special, right? One person, men are taught-- You try to get it from as many as you possibly can, and having a body count, or having a number, is what makes you an alpha, makes you more masculine. So for them, it's more about, like, conquering in numbers. It's also about authority and power. It's not about the intimacy or the specialness of it. And I think that's a disservice to men that older men put on younger boys a lot of the time, where they're like, well, you've got to try and do this and that and the other, and then young men are thought to think, well, that must be what big boys do. That must be what I do when I grow up. I don't think little boys, or young men, even who start having a sexual experience, come into it with the violence and the hate for women that older men have. I think they are taught that through who either their mentors are. I mean, you look at what Andrew Tate has done to a generation of people. 11-year-old, 12-year-old boys don't come into sex as a violence thing. They are taught that. I agree. And it comes and then it follows them, unfortunately. And I also think for a lot of these evangelical politicians and just the evangelical community at large, at least the people I grew up around, the one thing they're taught when they're really, really little is not like be good to people and take up for the marginalized person in the group or the runt in the litter. It is, you have to be a virgin. Right. I mean, I remember my friends were just, I were so consumed with being a virgin and, of course, they lost their virginity first. Oh, yeah. You know, but there's all the way to Catholic school. Way more sexually advanced than me in public school. Way more, her friends were way more out there. And I remember asking one of them, like, I'm like, oh, okay, so you had sex, like, how was it? Like, what did you do? Like, how did it go? And she was like, well, I just feel relieved that it's over with because now I don't have to worry about like who the special person is I'm going to give it to or like, what I'm going to do, like, I feel like a sense of freedom that it's over with. And like, now I can do what I want because I've already sort of gone through the idea of shame that like, I had sex with one person. Well, nobody's trying to hold me to some special, special standard anymore. I could like, be more free. And I was like, maybe I should start sleeping around. (laughs) 'Cause I think it's a young lesbian person. I knew that I didn't like boys. I didn't quite know that I liked girls yet. Or that that was even an option, really. I just was like, I think maybe I'm like asexual or I'll be like a nun or something. I just don't want to have sex with men. And when she said it was relieving, I was like, maybe I should try it. Maybe I'd feel less stressed out. And then I did and I didn't feel any less stressed out. A lot of lesbians that I know, they went from thinking, they had to like boys and then to asexuality. Yep, that seems to be the bridge before the enlightenment of lesbianism. That in like, just, I had sex with a man because I was like, okay, well, having sex with women does seem like it's on the table for me at some point. And I should have sex with a man to figure out how to have sex with a woman because I don't know how this way, I mean, I had no idea how this worked. - It was very stressful. - It was not a problem. And thank you to my friend who helped me through this. But like, it was not actually helpful because lesbians sex and straight sex are different. And even at that age, I really didn't know. And this is where I say, I don't think that young people come to sex through anyway other than innocence and trying to figure out like what we as human creatures are doing and that's why they should figure it out with each other. And then you have these predatory people from the church or from the Republican party or from even the Democratic party. I mean, look what Eric Swalwell was doing. - Exactly. - Exactly. They know better and they use that power dynamic to trick people out of what should be their own journey towards sexuality. I think if people had less of their sexual journey interrupted by weird adults, we would have a lot less of this like upcoming young Republicans being super conservative because they wouldn't feel like, well, something bad happened to me. So now I have to do it to someone else too, you know? - Now, I completely agree. That's a very beautiful way to put it that they do approach it with curiosity and the evolution of hormones. All right, let's get on to doing what we do best, which is mega bashing. - Great. - Okay, the midterms are less than five weeks away. - Yes. And the Republican strategy is to put Trump on the ballot. And I'm loving this. And here is Ms. Caroline Levit, this week on Fox News. Let's play the clip. And that's what we have to focus on drawing that contrast between the common sense vision of President Trump and Republicans. I was with the president today checking in with our friend and my old boss, and I will tell you, he is ready to hit the road. He's going to be on the road almost, on the road every, almost every single day in the month of October, campaigning for Republicans. I've heard enough. Let's allather that boy up and orange sunscreen and sending out on the campaign trail. I think it's great for us. What do you, what do you make of them sending out the surrogates, Trump, Vance, Little Moses, Mike? Oh my gosh. I think they're great surrogates for us. They're great surrogates for us. I think Donald Trump, every single time he shows up on television lately, it is a greater gap than the time before. He's either falling asleep, orange, has the bruises on his hands or is wearing gloves or is saluting the Chinese president. This man goes out there and says constantly, we'll never be a commonest country. And then flies Chinese Communist flags off the White House. I think just the, he also has to face empty rooms a lot of the time. And I want them to face these empty rooms. Like when we look at that RNC stunt that they did a couple weeks ago, whether he wants to believe that the people are still with him or not, when he got in that space, he knows that he's not filling up these spaces anymore. And I feel like there's some little ego accountability that may happen there. They're liars and they do the same moves too much. Like they're 2PR trained, even Caroline Levin in that clip. I went to theater school undergrad, so I always look for those tells. She's like, bright eyed nodding. So you agree with her, but because she's lying, she's tripping over her words. She can't like get through the sentence before she's like trying to correct herself. She's trying to control the information too much. Mike Johnson does this too. She advanced does this too. They don't have that composter that they had before the last presidential election when they were on with Theo Vaughn and the Nell Boys where they were like, we've got this. They're like, Jennifer, we're doing amazing. And the gas prices will go down right after. And it's like, we know that that's not true. We know that you're desperate and crazy. - Okay, the primaries have also highlighted a divide in the Democratic Party. And I saw this clip online. And this just kind of blew my mind. This is a panel on MSNOW talking about Angie Nixon. Angie Nixon is a progressive lover. Progressive candidate in Florida. And she called Chuckles for some DSCC money. And Chuckles was, rather, oh, we'll see, we'll see. And so they're talking about this on this MSNOW panel. And I thought this is pretty fascinating for us to dissect. Play the clip. - Yeah, see. - Ask, do you, some of you think that there are parts of the Democratic Party that actually want someone like Angie Nixon to lose? - Yes, yes. - Absolutely, absolutely. - Absolutely, yes. - Everyone that I was just referring to. You would then have to be responsive to what that candidate is advocating for, right? If they win, it's like a groundswell. - That's not just that, but they win. - So every single person said yes, that there are people in the Democratic Party that want to see Angie Nixon lose because Angie Nixon represents a politician that is incorruptible. - She does. And also, I think the Democratic Party is willing to give Florida away in many ways. And they have been like when we look at how Charlie Christ ran for governor back then. We knew a couple years ago there was no chance he was going to win, but Nancy Pelosi want to put her finger on the scale for him because that's our old buddy. Pushed out a lot of down ballot candidates that were better. And I think the same thing is happening with Angie Nixon. They're willing to not win Florida because they think it's an unwinnable state. They'd rather focus on like Maine or New Hampshire or something like that. And I think also Angie Nixon, she's got that pedigree. You want to find a tweet of her or a picture of her over the last decade showing up where she should have been. She's there. She's there and she's likeable. And I think young people really gravitate towards her. And whether Chuck gives her the money or not, I think she's got a really strong chance at winning if not this cycle of the next one. And I think that that scares what we consider to be like the corporate Democrats or the status quo Democrats who are used to holding positions of power. You get Angie Nixon or Abdul in there. And they're not going to sit on committee and be polite. They have something to say. And they owe it to their constituents. And they don't owe it to the big D donors of the last 30 years. And I think that's what scares these corporate Democrats is that the process of how they run elections and who gets seats as being interrupted by the people putting folks like Abdul or Angie Nixon into these spaces. And I love her. I think she's great. I love her too. She's been on the pod. And I just I think we are so lucky when there is a candidate that is as good as she is, as good a person that wants to run. And because the problem is with running for office, we don't get a lot of good people. You get a lot of exploiters and just loons that run. And people that are willing to morally bend themselves. And I think that Zoran is showing the base. And the Democratic establishment, when all chips in, against Zoran, they had they trotted out Cuomo and Zoran had to beat him twice. And he should see they brought out Cuomo. They brought out Cuomo. Zoran kicks his ass twice. Everybody said Zoran's going to ruin New York City. Zoran has a 69% approval rating in this city. 200,000, 200,000 potholes. He's showing us. We want the potholes filled the rows to be drivable. The kids to be educated and to have a little bit of money. That's it. He's showing us what government can do. And also how you can ask a politician a question and they can just answer it. And it's not some word-solid response that we get from Hawking Jefferies or Chuck Schumer. And so if, let's say, in a beautiful hypothetical world that we have Abdul Wins, She Wins, Angie Nixon, and other progressive candidates across the Indian - Andrews and South Carolina. - Yes. - Is that a good shot? - Yes. And what happens to the establishment, which I feel right now they are preservationists, they feel like a conservative party, establishment Democrats feel very conservative to me. - That's a good way to put it. So I had a conversation with Joe Biden when he was deciding to run for election again and with Joe Biden's people afterwards. And the thing that they were holding onto why he was gonna run again is that he felt like he still had to hold that banner. He felt like he still was the one people hadn't learned the ropes yet, we couldn't risk it. It was too dangerous. And I'm like, but you holding, I get it. And I appreciate what Joe Biden has done. But at this point, are you sure there's not somebody stronger and we need you around to be a mentor and a leader and a safety net for the next generation? And I think that clicked to him and I wish it would click to some of the older Democrats is like, we're not pushing you out. It's not that you have no use here or what you've done, we don't appreciate you for. It's that we need you to be a mentor now. You need to give up the position of elected official that you have to someone else not so you could be written off, but so you could be there to help them through their next couple years of fundraising and different stuff, but not to be in those committee meetings all the time. You're too far away from the people having worked 40 years in politics. And I say this about Bernie Sanders too and people don't like what I say about him too. He's been a senator for 40 years. There has to be a handing over to someone else so that you can stick around and be that guru on the hill for the next generation. And I think they're so afraid that they'll be bored. I think they're afraid of the policies they wrote that hurt people and they're going to have to be a member of the community anymore. No more capital police following you around. No more giving deference to you all over the place. You're just a regular citizen and maybe they don't want to be a regular citizen in the world that we have now. But this is the world you've given us and you have to pass that baton. I want to defend Bernie Sanders for just a second because he actually is digging into his war chest. It's $23 million war chest and he's campaigning for Angie and he's campaigning for Abdul and he's walking the walk, talking the talk and he's paying from his own war chest. And I do feel like Bernie Sanders didn't run necessarily to win, although he would have wanted to win. He ran to teach the electorate that we don't have to accept this two-party binary system. There is another way to do things. And without Bernie Sanders priming the electorate, I don't think we would have a mayor's or on Mamdani. I think that the Bernie bros and the injection of telling people capitalism, unregulated capitalism is failing you and it's going to lead to oligarchy and it's going to lead to bad things. And Bernie Sanders is the one that injected that into the electorate and I can say this because I have a 23-year-old son who was coming of age during this time period and when I put a Hillary Clinton sign in 2016 in our yard, he called me a moderate. Oh, the nerve. But I was really intrigued how my son, 'cause I was like, you know, with the backdrop of the Bible belt, not one county votes, blue and Oklahoma, I thought, well, everybody called me a commie and I felt like I was just so far left. But the truth was, I was more of a preservationist during that time too. This is the way the Democratic Party is and it has to be this way. What irks me about Jeffery's and Schumer is they end a lot of the consultant class as they refuse to listen to what the voters want. They want to tell people, you know, stupid things, like you can't, you need to condemn his son, Piker. Oh, God. Which is so session with his son, Piker. It's so stupid. And it goes everywhere to the point that I will get asked what I think about something that Hassan said. And I'm like, why would I police Hassan Piker? You guys have lost the plot entirely or asked Hassan about me or asked me about you or you about me. It's like, we're all doing the work to try and push progressive policies forward. And the people who benefit from that are the conservatives and the Republican. The fact that the legacy in trad media and Republicans are obsessed with Hassan hanging on his every breath has taken just so much information that could have been used in a better way away from people because they're so obsessed in jealous of him or they're obsessed in jealous of Abdul or whoever's getting essentially like ability from the public, which is something that they are desperate for. They're desperate to like and they can't be. - As it pertains to Fox, I think they're very horny over there. - They're super horny for Piker. - They are always talking about underwear photo at the R&S photo. - Underwear photo. And then Laura Ingraham, who we unmarried children will just leave that there. She is always talking about energy. Is she not? - Noodle. - She next on the list? - Never since. - Yeah, but she talks about AFC being hot with her hair and a red lipstick that she talks about, Abdul wearing these tight t-shirts. - Yes, and I'm just like, they are so horny. And we have this young, exciting electorate and young, exciting politicians. And as a mother, a boy's that are 20 and 23, their life is lived in some silo on the internet. I hate it, but that's where we are as a society. And Hassan Piker is a place that my child would stream and play video games and listen to Hassan in the background where he came to me and had conversations with me when he was in high school challenging me for supporting Hillary Clinton. He thought I should go further left. He thought that I was, that wasn't the best choice. And as a feminist, I wanted to see the first female president and I like Hillary, but the system that she promoted and that other Democrats that I love continued to promote is partly responsible for incubating fascism because the Democrats have not delivered materially for the working class. And she's been a part of that system. And people like, even though I think she did good things, two things can be true at the same time. And so people like Hassan buck that system and that's why I think it's always the corporates which when you get to Republicans and Democrats, if they're corporates, they're that first. And then they'll have an R or D below them. And that's why I think they get so world up about Hassan because he challenges questions about propaganda we've been told about Israel, about corporations. And he really challenges people to think. He challenges people to think about, do we commit acts of terror as a country? And my mother told me a long time ago, she's an 83-year-old progressive atheist in Oklahoma when we invaded Iraq. She said, we're no better than these people. Look over it. And we lied and started a war. And look at all the hundreds of thousands of that Iraqis are dying. And Hassan says these things. And it really, for a preservationist, it really bucks the system. And that's why I think, I also think it's a signal to people like us in the independent media. They're trying to make an example of him so that we'll back off. - Oh, for sure. - Do you feel that? - Absolutely. If we come for essentially your big strong dude, then you might not feel as comfortable, right? If it's the same thing, and they come for him because he exhibits what it is that they so wish for. I mean, he's like 63, he's built, he's very confident in himself, people listen to him, he's likable, right? That's what the Republicans and the Democrats want. And that's what they're actually jealous and upset about taking away anything he says, or if you agree with them or not, looking at him as a product, which is how they look at all of us. They're like, that's the product we wish we had and we were we need to get men back. The Democrats have to get men back. And so Zon walks in. They're like, no, not like that though. Too hot, too hot. Stop showing your armpits. Oh my god, you're killing us. But it really comes down to bodily autonomy as a whole, though. And this is what the Republican Party is very against. And this is why attacks on trans people come constantly our way. It's because anybody who is comfortable sitting in a room of power like Hassan or like trans people and goes, you know what? I don't buy it. And I'm going to continue to be myself because I live in community that affirms me. I've spent in the streets that I know what's going on. Anybody who exhibits some form of radical self acceptance, they don't like. And that's just a power versus the people dynamic. And Hassan's one part of that. Stacey Abrams is a part of that. Trans people are a part of that. There's a lot of us that are a part of it. The thing that I'll sort of push back on is the idea that there's not a two party system because right now there is. But what we can do with this half is what maggot did to the Republican Party. Mac of Republicans used to be Romney McCain, right? They were very like, we're so good. We're the family people. We're the this, that together business. Okay, well, then they got maggot in there, which is violent and extreme or very fetish-y, sexually deviant. Kristi Nome's husband. Come on. Yeah, come on. So those people got in. They took over the Republican Party and the Republican Party is now identified by that fringe group it was at the time. The same thing can happen with the Democratic Party where we could say progressives, which is a number of people, are pushing the party this way and that includes AOC and sort of what you might consider a moderate progressive without saying, well, you have to be independent because if you identify as a Democrat at all, well, you're trash. I think there's this binary thing that is very difficult in online spaces that makes people freeze up and go, well, I don't know what to do 'cause I don't wanna vote for a Democrat but Abdul is a Democrat. Well, I don't like the Democratic Party because they're not giving Angie Nixon money but she's running on the Democratic line. Many things are true at once and so I think it takes the nuance of going, we don't like the way that the corporatist elites of the Democratic Party have run things to this point. We are very close to them aging out whether they like it or not. What comes next? What are we building a bench for that gets in when these old varsity players die over forced to resign? And I do agree with what you just said there and I do think that there is what I am trying to build in this space here is a big tent. Yeah. And under that tent, number one is anti-fascist. Yeah. That we will unite to get these French freaks that have ascended to committing crimes like an incompetent mafia family. We have to collude with moderates, moderate Republicans that are anti-Trumpers, leftists. Anybody who says we cannot live the way these Republicans, these mega-Republicans want us to live. So then let's fast forward that we win the majority. A huge coalition. You have people, depending on geography, you have moderate Democrats that win. You have full-blown leftists that win. And you have DSA people that win. And it is a massive tsunami. And so then we have leadership in the House and in the Senate. And I'll tell you what I want. And then you can tell me what you can. Okay, great. Okay. I want this, I had Senator Chris Murphy on my show and he said that there's a fight club, a secret fight club in the Senate 'cause I asked him about this. Yeah. And he didn't poop who Chuck per se, but he didn't endorse Chuckles either. And he just said, you know, you probably heard there's a fight club. And I was like, who's in it? And he was like, I can't tell you. So obviously, I think that's a done deal. I think it will not be checked. Hopefully it's somebody, you know, that is more independent-minded like a Chris Murphy or Chris Van Hollen. I would love. Van Hollen's great too. He has incredible moral clarity. He just had a vote in the Senate about the Americans that Israel has killed in Palestine that nobody fights for in this country. And so I'd like to see somebody like that. So then let's get to Hucking Jeffries. Not very popular with the progressives 'cause I see him as like the Jared Kushner meeting pissed me off, word-sell, it answers, pissed me off. It's just good of fundraising. That's why he has that role. That's it. 'Cause Nancy Pelosi put a finger on the scale, said, this is the guy, here's my Rolodex. There you go. Where we sit right now. Politicians that have been very beholden to A-PAC and either party are facing massive headwinds. And they should. And not just because of A-PAC became the one that everybody knew because of the internet and because it's uniquely horrible. But there are so many special interest packs that are doing the exact same thing that aren't getting the heat. I wish we would use those A-PAC lists and cross-check them with the oil lobby, cross-check them with the crypto lobby. 'Cause there are other groups that do the exact same things that these people are double-dip and taken money from across the board. I agree. I think A-PAC money is awful and anybody who's taken it is not getting elected in the future. It's really become like the scarlet letter of your morals and what you're willing to do. And then if you heard that there's other groups that are forming that the money funnels upwards to A-PAC but they name it, it's very. Oh, thank you. They name it like women for democracy or women's reproductive rights or something. And so, I mean, fundamentally, all of these packs. You have to overturn Citizens United. Until we do that, it's not gonna matter. Politicians bought and paid for it. And you see, like, politicians that can be so good on certain issues and they can answer certain questions and then something comes up and you get a word-solid response and then you hit the goog and it turns up, "Oh, they're taken money from that lobby. That's why I got that answer." And I just think there, it's gonna be interesting because the one thing they wanted Citizens United to do, they've done. But it happened so rapidly. Now we have so much money concentrated where. you know, these tech oligarchs that Trump just hosted. And they're spending all this money on campaigns. I feel like now for a politician that has taken so much money when you see Zor on beat. - Yeah. - Billionaires out the wazoo and not take that many. I feel like now it's backfired. - Yes. - To where if you're on the ballot and you've taken a ton of money, look at Haley Stevens and I'm dual beat her. - I see dreams of Israel though. - We called Haley Stevens the Marla Hooch of politics, like because she looks like that character from, I'll give their own. And we said that Abdul was the Benny Rodriguez, like to do 90s movies references and people were like, correct. Yes. Haley Stevens was a uniquely horrible candidate both in the way that she primaryed and in the money that she's taken and in the lack of PR training that she has. And I think those type of candidates, she's a millennial, right? So it's not always about age, pushing people out by age, pushing them out by where do you stand and what structure are you willing to work with? And if you were a star of the old structure, you're not going to be a star of the future structure. I totally agree. Yeah. But the money has got to come out of politics. It's all very sheld, it's all very strange. And this is why I want more poor people to run for office because like as a person who grew up with limited means also, I've been poor, I'll be poor again. So I don't have to like even with money for independent media, we had this big deal come from one of the prediction markets, life changing money. And I said no to it because it's like, I don't need to do, there's good, bad and expensive money in independent media. And so when it was a prediction market money and they want all of this and they want us to do this and I'm like, oh my god, I could do all this stuff with it. But it would cost me my whole audience. I think people who grow up with a certain level of comfort don't always understand when you have to give up comfort to be in community because they don't have community. Their community is the capitalist comfort givers. So yeah. - Let's talk about enclosing, you're a proud member of the LGBTQ+ community. - Yes. - And you are in a marriage. - Yes. - And there are 77 million people that when they vote, that is not a priority for them. Either they don't care or they want that actively overturned and you're fortunate that you live in New York. There are so many beautiful queer or trans gay lesbian people in these red states and their first bullies are their parents. - Yes, mine too, even in blue state. That's how it goes. That's how we become so cute and funny. - Yeah. And then some people don't get the resolution. - Right. - They want. And the Trump regime just reversed some Biden era protections this week. - Yes. - And they're throwing so much at us. But for you here, how important is it to keep centering LGBTQ+ rights? And I firmly believe that, you know, one of my sayings that I left a borrow and it's confusing as to who said it originally, but I've seen it attributed to few people is none of us are free until all of us are free. - Sure. - If we allow the space for somebody to attack the trans community, then they move the goal post and they move the goal post and they move the goal post. So in closing speak about how important it is to support your community and also how you have kitchen table issues as well, despite the clandestine meeting in the Massachusetts bar protecting the gay agenda. - It's where we are. It's where we are. So the thing, I think it's best exemplified by what happened with Title IX this week, which is that all the mainstream and track media, a lot of the social media and of course the White House and the president wanted to claim, Donald Trump has rolled back transgender protections for athletes at the college level, saying, and that's what they presented it as. What Donald Trump actually did with Title IX is go back to his 2020 interpretation, which is a great departure from the 1972 interpretation that says the basis of sex is not enough to be considered discriminated against. The discrimination or the unwelcome conduct must be so pervasive, so severe, and so obviously offensive that it warrants an investigation. Well, who gets to decide what action that takes place on a college campus is so severe and pervasive, is it, what is it, right? And then he took away the responsibility of the college to do an investigation and now they're saying, okay, if something bad happens to you on a federally funded campus, you as a woman have to go to the state or local police and file a complaint. That creates major issues for victims of sexual violence and harassment, not just the students, but also the teachers. He also added a protection for the accused, which hasn't been reported on nearly enough, saying if somebody is accused of rape on a college campus, Title IX must protect their rights to do process. The accused can request a live hearing, meaning that your school could convene one of your lecture rooms and say, we're gonna have a hearing today on if what this woman says is true. And the accused gets to cross-examine the victim. Oh my God. Now why isn't that leading in the headline, though, Jennifer, because trans panic sells stories. So they're like, will they roll back? No more men in women's sports, big win. I asked Terry Schilling, who is the Republican think tank operative, who came up with the idea that going after trans people in sports would be a winning campaign thing for Republicans and he was right, as I tell you what happened. Perfect world. All the trans people, all seven of them are out of sports. Now what? And he's like, well, it's always about overturning Title IX, of course. And I was like, say that then. You want to overturn Title IX because it gave women parity in higher education spaces. You want to overturn Title IX because you have this white male grievance that somehow women are getting more because we have to demand that you make it slightly equal. Donald Trump doesn't want to ruin a young man's life over 20 minutes of action or over allegations because women are always lying. They're always getting drunk and lying about what happened to them on these college campuses. So now if she wants to accuse one of the Cornell 7, imagine of what these horrible atrocities, she will have to sit in an open live hearing and defend herself in front of her college campus before police or anybody else gets involved. That's insane. That's absurd. All that gets hidden behind trans panic. So every time you see an attack on a trans person out there in the media or in the world, remember, there are very few trans folks, especially at the elite athlete level. And it is always there as a shield to try and hide more nefarious policies. And it's because most people don't know a trans person. So they're willing to take it face value. Well, they must be bad because I'm a good person and if I don't know any trans people, well, then they must not be that good because they're not in good spaces. And that's just not true. So I think centering LGBTQ folks in policies is important. I also think the spotlight that we've gotten since the gay marriage was made official has been so bright that it has burned and blinded many of us and hurt us alive. When you have a spotlight, it's good, but it can also be really exposing and vulnerable. And so look out for your people, you know? Yes. And that's a really great detail about what they're doing. And they use the trans issue, Hassan, the controversial Hassan Piker, which, by the way, do you condemn him? I do not condemn Hassan Piker, no. And he always says on his stream, he says, OK. So now he's bullying trans people. Is your life better? Is your gas lower? What does it get you, Maga? Being mean to trans people, what does it get you? But what it does-- You're going up for a bodily autonomy, though. Then it exposes women and so many other people. AOC on a long time ago, back when Joe Biden was president. And she said all of the succession about trans people is going to lead to, at some point, gender checks, genital checks. It's happening now. They have laws now that say that you, that a member of the school, could-- if there's an investigation into a girl who wants to join the team, they could go as far as genital checks. And it doesn't have to be a doctor. Who gets to decide? This is the thing. And they don't want to talk about that, because they're all freaky pedophile weirdos anyway. So that doesn't really offend them that much. Trans people stand in the face of the idea that you cannot have bodily autonomy under an authoritarian or a capitalist state, and we do anyway. So going after trans people is because they say, just because I was born a certain way or in a certain class or expected to behave a certain way doesn't mean that I will, and I'm still loved. And I'm still successful, and I still have a future. And I have optimism, and I have hope. And people love me. And folks who are insecure with themselves and fascists cannot handle that. It's why the Nazis killed trans people and gay people too. Because if you stand as a possibility model against what the authority tells you is the norm that you should assimilate to, well, then other people might do that too. Maybe down on the same scale, the women might want to go to college. They might want their own security credit card. They might not want to have to marry a man. They might want to be able to own their own business. And it all comes back to that radical idea that you are born with bodily autonomy, and you can stand in the face of fascism and authoritarianism. And they don't want you to see trans people, because then you might think, maybe I should have some bodily autonomy too. Maybe I don't have to subscribe to what the authority demands. So beautifully said. Thank you so much for joining me. You're a fabulous guest. Please go follow under the desk news on all of the places. It's everywhere. Yeah, we live stream every day from 10 to 11.30 in the morning. Can you join us with a chat on? Because I think what the power of independent media is is you're in your DMs and comments. You see what people say to you. You respond back to them. It's no longer us talking at people. It's us talking with people. Yeah. And I think that's the power of these spaces. 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Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The transcript highlights a sharp critique of political hypocrisy, particularly among Republicans and conservative media, who often claim to oppose LGBTQ+ rights while being drawn to or fetishizing queer identities.
  2. A grassroots lesbian bar in Massachusetts, operating with pandemic-era safety measures, faced backlash from outsiders who demanded its closure, revealing deep societal tensions around bodily autonomy, inclusivity, and political exploitation.
  3. The speaker argues that conservative figures, including some Republican women, are attracted to lesbian and queer communities not out of genuine support, but due to a desire for sexual adventure and a hidden, taboo fantasy, reflecting broader patterns of repression and fetishization.
  4. The discussion reveals systemic power imbalances in politics, where established parties (especially the Democratic establishment) suppress progressive candidates like Angie Nixon, fearing loss of influence, while relying on traditional donors and power structures.
  5. The rise of figures like Hassan Piker and attacks on trans people are framed as strategic tools to provoke outrage, distract from real policy issues, and maintain conservative control over narratives around gender and identity.
  6. The transcript emphasizes the importance of bodily autonomy, challenging the idea that LGBTQ+ rights are fringe or secondary, and argues that attacks on trans people are often a shield for broader authoritarian policies.
  7. Independent media is presented as a vital counterforce to mainstream and traditional media, offering more honest, community-driven reporting and allowing real-time dialogue with the public.
  8. The speaker calls for a unified, anti-fascist coalition across the political spectrum, uniting moderates, progressives, and independent voices to dismantle entrenched power structures and create a more inclusive democracy.

Summary:

The transcript offers a critical examination of political hypocrisy, LGBTQ+ rights, and media narratives in the United States. It centers on the tension between conservative rhetoric and actions, particularly how Republican figures and media outlets often demonize LGBTQ+ communities while privately engaging in fetishized or exploitative behaviors. A key case study is a lesbian bar in Massachusetts that faced internet backlash after removing mandatory masking, revealing how marginalized communities are pressured to conform under political scrutiny.

The speaker argues that conservative attacks on trans people and queer identities are not random but serve as strategic tools to mask deeper policy failures and suppress bodily autonomy. This is especially evident in attacks on Title IX, where policies are reinterpreted to target transgender athletes while ignoring the real harm to victims of sexual violence. The narrative also highlights the role of independent media in providing truthful, community-driven coverage, contrasting it with the sanitized, manipulated reporting of traditional outlets.

The discussion underscores that the real threat is not just to queer visibility, but to democratic values like bodily autonomy and self-determination. The author calls for a coalition of progressive and moderate voices to counter entrenched power structures, emphasizing that true change requires both political courage and a deep commitment to radical inclusivity—especially for those who have long been excluded from mainstream power. Ultimately, the piece argues that progress depends not on isolated victories, but on dismantling systems of oppression and redefining what it means to be free and seen.

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The transcript suggests that some Republican women, especially those from conservative or evangelical backgrounds, are attracted to or fascinated by lesbians, often due to a desire for sexual freedom or secrecy, which they believe is not possible in traditional marriages. This attraction is presented as a form of fetishization, not a reflection of their actual identities or beliefs.

The 'Last Ditch' bar, a lesbian-friendly establishment in Western Massachusetts, opened with mandatory masking for immunocompromised patrons during the pandemic. After facing financial hardship, the owner opened one night per week with mask-optional policy, which sparked backlash from outside groups, including a person from California who threatened to firebomb the bar, leading to significant community debate.

The transcript argues that conservative politicians often frame LGBTQ+ rights as a threat to traditional values, using fear-based narratives to justify policies. This includes attacks on transgender athletes and trans people, which are seen as symbolic of broader efforts to suppress bodily autonomy and challenge societal norms.

The 'trans panic' narrative is used as a political tool to deflect from deeper issues like systemic inequality and lack of bodily autonomy. Attacks on trans people are often framed as protecting women's rights, but the transcript argues these are actually cover-ups for more nefarious policies, such as gender-based discrimination and invasive medical checks.

Independent media is portrayed as more honest and transparent than traditional media, offering diverse perspectives and challenging established narratives. The transcript emphasizes that independent media fosters community engagement, allowing real-time dialogue and accountability between creators and audiences.

The transcript observes that many men are drawn to pornography featuring power dynamics or dominance, which reinforces toxic masculinity. This leads to anti-LGBTQ+ attitudes, as men often equate being attracted to gay men or women with weakness or deviation from traditional male roles.

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