The conversation explores the fading of traditional superstars in modern entertainment and the cultural shift toward more fragmented, algorithm-driven media consumption. Participants reflect on how Gen Z’s engagement with reality shows, social media, and influencer culture lacks the authenticity and depth of earlier decades. There’s a strong sense of nostalgia for the early 2000s, when TV programming was diverse, bold, and inclusive—like *America’s Next Top Model* or *Four Weddings*—compared to today’s oversaturated, formulaic content. Personal anecdotes reveal how creative fields like music and acting now demand more discipline and vulnerability, with some participants sharing experiences of making music in studios or filming a movie in South Africa. A recurring theme is the rise of manufactured content—especially in influencer courses—versus the value of self-driven, authentic growth. The group also highlights digital wellness tools, like the "brick" phone blocker, as ways to reclaim focus and reduce screen time. Finally, a personal encounter with a psychic who accurately predicted life events—such as a relationship or a family member’s passing—adds a layer of mysticism and belief in intuitive, non-scientific forms of knowledge. The overall tone is one of reflection, longing for authenticity, and a call to re-engage with meaningful, real-life creativity.
[MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] >> My God. >> Are you guys are you there? >> Yeah, we're always right beside me. >> Right, right, because nobody wants to sing no more. >> No one wants to sing anymore and more importantly, we don't have superstars anymore like we used to. >> We used to have superstars. >> We just used to have people who were super and star. >> And stars at the same time, which mind you, I was listening to Gaga on the way here, we can talk about that later. And I was just like, y'all don't want to wake it up, no. >> No one wants to wake it up anymore. So anyways, what we're trying to do right now is manifest a superstar to come into the space. >> And just let's just like collectively close your eyes at home, let's take a deep breath, let's really think about it and just visualize. >> If a superstar could come into the space. [MUSIC] >> Please take a seat, like if you would so please. >> Boom, boom, that's star power, that's star power. >> Hey, what the hell? >> Hey, cutie. >> Yeah, I need to talk a little bit, so I need to talk a little bit. >> Yeah, so bitch, first of all, I'm a stand, are you a Nikki Fee? >> I don't get it, you're a Nikki Fee? >> Well, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look. >> I love you guys, when I told you, I feel like you guys have been popping up on my, >> For you page for like, years now, no shade. >> Wow. >> Well, it's been a very-- >> Who just set up before, you know, like, >> So you know today. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> Well, yeah, I told you guys, all thinking about the OG days, what the hell? >> We're just so happy you're here, and if you introduce yourself to the audience. >> Right. >> Hey guys, my name's Alia Zenerlude, and I am that bitch. >> Thank you, true, very good. >> Wait, what's your sign? >> Um, guess. >> What is it giving? >> It's kind of giving me, I would say maybe an air sign, or a fire sign. >> I'm a, I say that's a compliment. >> That average? >> I was going to, I was going to go sadger, Leo. >> Are you serious? I'm a tourist. >> Really? >> Nobody ever gets me. I'm a tourist. >> Okay, I'm a tourist. >> Okay, I'm a tourist sun, Leo moon, aqua rising. >> Okay, oh, right. >> I might do aqua. >> I might do aqua. >> I'm like, oh, right. >> Up where? >> Right, right, right, right, right, right. >> Well, no, the only user that is guessing sadger says, every single sadger girl is a goddamn key. Like, and it's literally so fun. >> Literally so fun. >> So, cuz I don't get that. >> Oh, yeah, that's insane. >> Well, that's my sign, so I have to stand by her. >> No. >> Wait, what are y'all? >> Well, I'm a Gemini, so it's just like, right. >> Okay. >> You'll get a Gemini. That high. >> No, you'll get a Gemini down. >> Well, when the PR horrible, it's just like, wait, like that. >> But you're like a fun Gemini, so I'm Gemini. >> Things like crazy, psychotic, but like, but you're a fun, psychotic crazy. >> I stand by the idea, cuz I hope my droid will suddenly be rising. So it's just like, oh hell no. But I do stand by the idea that May Gemini's are different than June Gemini's, because whenever I meet Gemini's, cuz you know, we have to have the key, cuz we're sisters, and it's just like, you know, I'm gonna stand by them. But every June, and it's no shade, okay? Me looking at everyone, I'm like, it's no shade. But like, when I meet a Gemini, I could tell you probably within the first two minutes, like, oh, it's giving June. Cuz the May Gemini's, the May Gemini's are kind of just like, hey, hey, y'all, hey, but the June Gemini's be like, light the shit up. I'm like, wait. >> Hello. >> I don't know what happened. >> Okay, but mine, the Wutadarale. >> Which one is the real Gemini's? Because if you say it, think about it. Isn't it Gemini more in June than in May? >> Well, and that's tea. Maybe that's why, what's before Gemini? >> Taurus. >> Okay, then that's why the main thing is a little more tea. >> Really the tea, because, yes. I feel like the earth signs really be gathering, and Taurus is my favorite, because I have a Taurus moon, and I'm just like, y'all are a key. Cuz the earth is down, down, down, down. >> Y'all just be like, chillers. >> Yeah. >> Chillers, I'm a Capricorn. >> Okay. >> Capricorn is on this moment. >> Taurus moon. >> No, I'm about to say, y'all be rising. >> You're like, I'm here. >> Capricorn is, they want to look at what to do with you. >> Oh, me too. >> Well, and that's why the house is clean, it's correct. You know what I mean? >> I love that. >> Cuz without the Capricorn energy, I don't know. >> No, not at all. >> But this is a good mixture, though. >> It really is, and once we have the two Libra Rising's really like, hell. >> Right, well, this is the right one. >> Yeah, mind you, all of our friends are Libra Rising, so I'm like, right. >> So y'all are extraverted down, like, you are down. >> Are you fucking? >> You are extraverted. >> I feel like, okay. I will say, I feel like you're down to talk to like everyone, kind of fun. >> Interesting. >> But I feel like, okay, I feel like you're down to talk to everyone. Although, you do like stay home more. >> Interesting. >> Like, I feel like if there's an event or something, you'd be like, you would prioritize something that you already had like planned. >> Well, yes, no, you literally staying home to play bingo last night. I was like, I can't make it, I can't. >> Okay, yeah. >> Well, I feel like for me, I feel like we kind of get, well, it's just like bingo. It's just like bingo, no shade. And no shade, we celebrity's not bitch. Cuz when you're young at bingo, they literally be like, like this lady walked up to me and she was like, are you an angel? >> Well, you're going somewhere to play bingo. >> Baby, I'm with the diva's 80 years old chain-smoking cigarettes. Like, I'm like, what's y'all doing? >> What's y'all doing? >> Handling with the city. >> What the fuck? >> No, I was literally telling my friend that I want to go on a family feud so bad. >> You would eat down. >> Like, can we make that happen? >> So what's stopping us, like, what's stopping us? >> Yeah, yeah, you're stopping us, what is stopping us? >> No, because that would be a key key. >> That would be too as fucked up, think about it. I feel like young girls don't go on game shows like they used to. >> Because is not even, do we even know what that is anymore? >> It's just love, I think. >> You know what I mean? >> Bye. >> Wait. >> [LAUGH] >> No, because the read on Gen Z is actually so sick me. >> Are y'all watching it though? >> Yes, we have a reaction series that we're filming right now, which is just like, girl, my brain fell. >> Right, right, and then it's like, we're still watching it. >> Well, like, hella had a G as fuck. >> Yeah, scary, low key. >> Hi, key. >> It's very scary, but it's like, very real. >> It's anthropology. >> No, that's what I'd be saying too. And especially with the Gen Z bullshit, I'm like, guys, it's our time to shine and like, we just look in a form. >> It's the Gen Z representation, like. >> We need to look at that. It's like, it's happy to get our face played in. Like, happy gig. >> No, very excited and like, going to Fiji for it. So it's just like fucked up. >> No, like, what? >> I've ever gone a reality show like this. >> Yes. >> Love Island? >> No, hell no. >> I mean, I couldn't go on a dating show. If anything, it would be giving like, game show situation. Like, a big brother, like, you know, something- >> Traitors. >> Traitors is like my dream, like my dream and my day. But like, you know, you obviously have to like, know someone to like, go on traitors. >> You actually have to? >> Well, no, more so they choose like, people who have previously been, either in like, the bravo verse or like, love Island. >> Yeah, they're all like, already reality stars. >> Yes. >> That actually makes sense. I've seen Portia on there. >> Portia? >> Yes. >> Yeah, they honestly should open up a pit for real though. >> Well, yeah, because that would be sick. >> They are doing like, normal people right now. >> Really? >> I know. But I was just like, I do want to go on. And I just, yeah. >> Do you want to lie? >> No, I didn't, because I didn't. >> [LAUGH] >> Well, I didn't, because I was just like, I don't know. I was like, I'd be gone for so long. And Scott, no, okay. >> The real T is, the real T is, the real T is. Like, I think I just want to get buff his shit. >> Okay, I really want to get like- >> Are they like strong? >> Yes, yes. >> Yeah, that's the whole T. >> Because the T is- >> [LAUGH] >> [INAUDIBLE] >> No, yeah, cuz I'm like, I feel like in the social aspect, obviously, I would like key as far. >> Yeah, well, you're good at Mafia. >> Yeah, so I think it's true, she eats at Mafia every time. >> No, I would be like in Mafia, like fighting for my life. But I feel like in traders, I feel like I would be able to get protection and all these things. But there are people who just do not give in the challenges. And it is like a big vulnerability. At times, not think you always need to be like, whatever. But I'm like, if I could just get a wee more buff, where I could scale a mountain, no questions out. >> Hello, there's Kayla. >> Yeah. >> Are you serious? >> I think we'll do like these big tracks. >> Yeah, like huge scavenger hunts across the property in Scotland. >> And yeah, like rob really thrived. Cuz Rob will cause Rob, he's big and bad. >> He's like carrying people. >> I saw him pick up a snapping turtle last night on my iPad, mind you. >> I was like this. >> Yeah, I've been hit. >> I fear right now, I'm in my brick summer era, bitch phone. >> What the fuck is brick summer? >> Let me tell you about this brick. Let me tell you about this brick, not even sponsored. Like, brick, be paying me does. She would be having me like, love it. I'm like, girl, but here's the thing like you changed my life. If you know what I'm saying, let me take a picture with the brick. It's like a little thing. It's like a little brick, a square. >> Okay. >> Right, you gotta pull it up. It's a literal square and basically it's connected to an app on your phone, which when you do it, it'll like lock you out of apps. So like, take top and Instagram, bitch, you're blocked. >> And the only way, the only way to unblock him is to tap the brick. >> On what? >> On the brick. Like your phone on the brick. Like you get out of Apple Pay on the brick and that's where you open. >> You have to pay it? >> Well, no. >> Okay, wait, wait, stop. >> I'm just thinking it's tapping the tapping. >> What's tapping me from tapping the brick? >> So for example, say you brick yourself out from like 9 to 5, right? And then it's like 12 in your boy.
and you're like, "Oh, I want to un-brick my phone," but you put your physical brick at your friend's house. You would have to drive to your friend's house to un-brick your phone. - So right now, I'm sitting in my dress, sir. So right now, if I even, I be opening my phone and that's just really sick about it. So we're feeling, I be opening my phone, trying to hit Instagram, not even thinking about it, and it'll be like, bitch, you're blocked. - It'll stay back to live it. - And it'll stay back to living, which is a read. (laughing) Which is really shady and rude. But no shade, I was bricked actually five days in a row last week. - Are you serious? - I'm still being cut of that. I'm trying to retrain my brain back into computer time, like a family room computer where if I wanna go on Instagram, now go on my iPad, you know what I mean? And be like, okay, I'm going on Instagram. - Okay, because of that, I made that iPad with shit. (laughing) - Hopefully, because when I put the iPad, I'm about to shave my head and start walking barefoot. So it's like, y'all don't want that. Y'all don't want that smoke, but yeah. - What the fuck? - It's really sickening. It's really sickening. - No, the brick is everything. - It's sickening specifically for me when you go out because sometimes now I'll be like, why am I out lunch with my friends on Instagram? And you just don't even think about it. It's like now low-key when I'm waiting for food and show I'll be like, damn, I'm bored of shit. But it's kinda nice. - It is nice. - 'Cause I'm like, oh, it's boring. - Yeah, absolutely. - Right, we don't be bored no more. - We don't be fucking bored. - I feel like when I get bored, that's when I make the worst decisions though. That's why I'm like, I can't. (laughing) - Wait, what the fuck? (laughing) - Oh, wait, hello. - Every time that I go back to a situation where I'm not supposed to be in is 'cause I'm fucking bored. But the brick is like-- - Tee. - Tee. - Tee. - Oh. - That's right. - And I wonder if you could block people. That would be sick name. - Wait, how the fuck did y'all figure out about a brick? Is that a famous thing? - What I heard about it from the girl. - Yeah, 'cause my friend, Gee, shout out, JC, was like, I found this thing 'cause I literally need to get off my phone and my friend, JC, bought it. And then after that, everyone was buying bricks. And then I got my friend, Emma, one, as a wedding gift. - Right. And then I got one. - That's a wedding gift. - That is a good opportunity. - I mean, not like a wedding cake. - Like, we're like a bridal party gift. - Well, it's a 16-gift. - It's a good gift. - It's a good gift. - It's a good gift. - It's a good gift. - It's a good gift. - It's a good gift. - 'Cause I'm Amazon influencer, Chelsea's an influencer. So it's just like, I totally get it. - Yeah. - It is sick name. - I do be missing everything now, but other than that, it's sick days. (laughing) - Like, unfortunately, yeah, unfortunately, but other than that. - In the series. - And you can do stories on iPad now. So it's just over. - Okay. - It's like, oh, man. - You can do fucking stories on your iPad. - Yes. - First create mode. - I was like, you're having an iPad. - I do have an iPad, but I feel like I'm not utilizing it to my best ability now. - Will you use my score? - Girl, canva down. - Okay, bye. - My thumbnails on YouTube. - Okay, T. - T. - YouTube, actually, down. - Did you edit YouTube on your iPad? - Oh, fuck no. I edit on my computer. - Okay, T, T, like theater. - 'Cause I'm like, I did get an iPad specifically to attempt YouTube one day. - Right. - The dream still lives. - The day you do it. - Yeah, I just like need to do it. It's one of those things, but yeah. - YouTube's definitely like a different little. She a digs. She's like a different. Like, to be a user, you really gotta be like, a fucking intentional as bitch. Like, you cannot just go on there and think you're gonna key. Like, it's not a key. - That's very fucking serious from there. Like, bitches, like, the kids, the kids. - That's real. - Right. - The consistency part. - Right. - Like, yeah, that's real as hell. - That's a lock that's a fuck. - Honestly, for some reason, though, YouTube is more of a key for me because, like, if I posted on TikTok as much as I think, I'm not going on live island. I'm not, they gon' start paying me that, like, it's just like TikTok is so idea to mouth to phone. - It is. - It would be aggy as hell. - Wait, what? You don't post on TikTok, like, like, every thought. You're just like, like, really? - Well, I kind of do this weird thing where I feel like I'm in and out of elusivity. Like, sometimes I'll be like, oh, like, ah, da, da, da, da, da, da. And then sometimes I'm like, guys, like, I just, if nobody ever knew I existed, that's okay. So I kind of do that and like, TikTok's like, too. Like, I'd be like, no, I feel that. And then, like, instantly regretting something that she posted or, like, posting something controversial and it, like, flops. (laughing) Like, nobody gives a fuck. (laughing) - Like, actually, like, actually shut that down. - No, like, put that damn phone down. - Like, actually, yeah. - Well, but TikTok is a key though because I love consuming it. So, like, I'm like, I need the girls doing the talking heads because I like to consume it, but then when it comes down to where I can post, like, YouTube, I feel like, is more my, am I? - Really? - Like, when you start YouTube? - Girl, I started YouTube, like, three years ago, but I don't because it's, I just started being, 'cause it's like, okay. - Oh, that's real. - Yeah. - 'Cause I was like, yeah, the first time I ever found you was early days, TikTok as fun. - Girl. - 'Cause you were running in, like, the goddamn, or reading, like, the goddamn, or reading. - Yes! - And you were waking it up real bad, and are, and are still to this day. - Like, to this day. - I really know about just, like, being a little bit elusive, though, 'cause I feel like I used to be the type of bitch, like, anything I think, it needs to be all TikTok, right? The fuck now. - Immediately. Immediately. But now I'm just like, (buzzer) I don't wanna get dragged today, like, I don't. - Do you be getting dragged? - Oh, you see it? - Are you serious? - You're serious. - You're serious? - You're serious? - You're serious? - You're serious? - I used to get dragged every day. Like, not on TikTok, but, like, Twitter. - Do y'all be on Twitter? - No, no. - See, it's y'all playing. - See? - And that's the y'all playing. - See? - And that's where I really had to draw the line, because, okay, for me, I used to be a Twitter, like, warrior, - Or a gray of you. - 'Cause you're used to be a space with a rainbow over it. - There was a tour. - Yeah. - It was a day, day, day. - It was an egg. - Back in the day, day, day, day, day, day. - No, back in the hey day, like, I used to be on Twitter, like, king, so crazy getting into Twitter fights, like, actually, oh, I used to, I used to do my big one on Twitter. - Oh, of course. - Like, I was back in the day. - Right. - High school. - Oh, okay, okay. - Yeah. 'Cause like, in high school, that's when Twitter was alive and well, like, yeah. - Oh, yeah. - That was when I was in high school. - It was over with. - I was like, handling Twitter in such a crazy way. Were you yourself on Twitter? - Yeah. - Okay, T.A. - I was running a fierce one direction account, so like, I don't know. - Well, like, real bad. - 'Cause I'm like, I had an odd future account but that was Tumblr. - Right. - Well, that was very Tumblr. - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah, that was very Tumblr. - That was very Tumblr. - To be honest. - Well, 'cause were you on Tumblr like that? - I feel like I was too late to Tumblr. - 'Cause how old are you? - I'm 23. - Oh my gosh, well then there you go, my love. - No, right, and it all makes sense. - I'm 28, nothing. - I'm 28. - Okay, so you think I'm Tumblr? I get it because it was kind of like a shooting star. Like, if you were just like a couple years, like there was like Tumblr had a fierce like five years. - Yeah, that's it. - You know what I mean? - That's it, I'm like the way we talk about it. You would think that shit was like- - Well, 'cause the impact. - Honestly, it was like- - 'Cause the impact. - Okay, well. - It was like a 10. 'Cause I started in middle school way too late. - Right. - With that shit. - Oh, Tumblr. - Yeah, yeah. - So I started, I feel like the first log I made was like the summer going into seventh grade. - Oh, okay. - And then seventh eighth grade held it down with the odd future blog, blogs. And then freshman year, I made my first like personal Tumblr and then I probably phased out like senior year. - What were you posted on that page? - Well, it was a lot of reblogs. Like I wasn't like, I was like a big reblogger, big like, you know, keeping the fandom alive. - They were big in the five. - Yeah, I was curious. - I was curious. - You're a writer. - Yeah, I think absolutely. - It's honestly a mix of like Pinterest, Twitter, and Instagram. - 100%. - Because some people were creating content and like posting themselves on there. - Oh, and the girls would be getting reblogged the house. - Yeah, like a lot. - I heard about that. - Yeah. - Like some bitches were like Tumblr, who was like Tumblr famous? - Oh Tumblr famous passage. - Do you know who was Tumblr famous low key now that I think about it? - Ooh. - Now that I've seen the throwback photos, fucking Bryce, bro. - Oh, I know I did see that. - I did see that. - And that's why when I was looking at his photos, I was like, "You got that genus." - Well, because he had that 2016 like, pretty, - Yo, I did see that. - Yeah. - Which like half of them do on the island, but they're all 2016 gorge. Like it's like, I haven't seen people like y'all in years. - Yeah. (laughs) - Like all of a sudden. - We'll live here together, - Right. - Like, they were handled. - And Miss Kendallton. - No, that's literally how I feel about the new one Corbin. It's like he's AI fine, like he's fine, but like, he can tell he looks like how like the human's gonna look in 25 feet. - Oh, how might you ever want to let it be? - You would know. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - And they could miss my-- - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Big news Island. - Well, it is right. - Well. - Besides a Nya training. - Well, right. And now besides, like the Jess and the Jen and the-- - Are those your faves right now? - I, okay, Trinity is just Trinity's definitely one of the faves. She's like, funny as fuck. Um, Anaya, I'm gonna stand beside her because like, again, she's 22, right? - She's 22? - That's, yeah. - Why is everyone on this fucking island 22? - Because they don't care about y'all. They don't care about none of y'all on that damn island. - Like, you have to be young, who's half the-- - They took y'all outside the bar mind you, outside the bar. - That is insane. - That is insane. - So, you know, anytime she makes a choice, that's like, you know, oh my gosh, why would you do that? I'm like, chalk it up to 22. - Oh, I have them. - I have them. - Oh, look at them. But I feel like Anaya has like-- - Except Bryce, he 29. - Hey, Corbin, I'm sorry. - No, he's 22, that's the thing about Corbin. - He's act 22 at L. - He act 22 A.I.5, like, had it in six, four, yeah. - Hey guys, I'd like to take a break to think a sponsor of today's episode of Pop Chips. Pop Chips has been our go-to snack where we are watching and reacting to reality TV. They're made with avocado oil, they're super crunchy and have bold flavors. 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You're really not graduating like. No, like like the kids aren't even like, oh my god, I worry about the kids. Like they really be 14 with the like a Gucci purse. I'm like guys. Yeah. Y'all remember being just like low-fugly? Hello, or having aspirations, right? Outside of it. It's like going to do something later. Well, because the girls genuinely when I go to the mall in every single store that I'm in, there's also a 12 year old. I'm like, this ain't right. So it'd be Sephora for me. It's Sephora. And mind you, Aritzia. I was in Aritzia and I was like, you don't even understand what you're doing here. Like consuming the same content as us. Like my fucking seven year old cousin was asking me if I knew cooking with Kaya. And I was like, you're insane. Like get off of YouTube shorts. Oh, the girls about to be the girls about to be a little off. Like are you insane? Yeah. Like they'll say like TikTok sounds and stuff to me. And I'm like, how the fuck do you know that? Because there's no tween industry anymore. Yeah. They don't got no high school musical, no fucking team. And I was like, King with my friends cousin. Don't even get me started on my list behavior genuinely. No, genuinely. I can't do this right now, genuinely, genuinely. No, like high, can you and Lee? Because do you play roblox? Okay. So are you playing in high school a lot? Right. And I like dress to impress. Okay. Right. And that makes a lot of sense. Right. Because you do in fact dress to impress. Exactly. No about that. Exactly. But I was like hanging out with my friends cousin. And she was just like, like, I literally gave her the hotspot on my phone. Right. Because I was like, show me roblox. Like show me what like the girls do on there. And they just have like, hella mini games. And one of the mini games is baddies. Were you just like start fighting girls? And then she was like, look, I got her like, I was like dragging her like, look, like, and then they're just like fighting. And you could get a shovel and like, fight them and stuff like. Wow. The hotspots off. The hotspots off. It sounds like it's off. Really violent and crazy. And I'm like, I don't know. I'm scared to be a parent, bro. I don't think I can. I don't think they can when the kids can litter. I don't know. Like baddies, because I'm like, she doesn't know. Yes. It's this. Oh, my God, you're God. And it's like, I don't know. I'm like, I feel like we kind of used to play something and get it. Well, because we have like the period by. No. That's what I mean. And it's like, I spy shit. But like, the girls I truly don't. Yeah. Is girl. All right. Okay. It's it's low-key like, but Ash like, is Halifax. Well, because we're like old. Oh, hell. No. The bad. Yeah. Okay. We used to be doing like my scene like dress up or like movie star planning. Yes. Movie star planet. Deva star. Allie pocket pickup. Girl, y'all. Polly pocket pickup. I've never heard of that. The Polly girl. That's a niche one. I'm a I'm a Polly pocket party picked up. You would pick up the pizzas and you would take them to the girls. Yeah. Okay. Or the baby. Yes. Polly. Girl in her audience on the crunchy. Yeah. No. Do you remember purple place? Wait. Yes. Y'all don't purple. Or you made the cakes? Yeah. Please look up purple. Please. This one. It was like installed in like every like. Oh, wait. Yes. I do know the three version. Yeah. She's clicking to me. This was my shit. Bring that online game. Yes. The little village. I do remember this. Was there another game with that or was it just this? And I think Wizard 101. Or like other shit. I don't. Yeah. Like the family computer where you could just like. No for real. Because the girl should not be seven talking about baddies on roadblocks. Like that is insane. Yeah. No. Like what I meet people who like watch baddies regularly. I can fucking tell before they even let me know baddies. Hello. I have. Okay. I do watch it. Okay. I haven't watched. Yeah. I haven't watched. Yeah. Y'all have don't watch it. Like actually don't watch it. Well, and that's what I said. That's what I said. Because I was like the Zeus network is going to pay. I have deep right. There will be a documentary. Because I'm like, y'all, it just gets to a little point where it's just like, you can't like Zeus. Like Zeus. Zeus. We can't do that to each other. No, that is the CIA mandated shit. No, that's what I mean. That's the same shit as the. Then when there's a red dot. You're like a whole lot. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. Haven't seen it yet. But I do be like on Natalie Nun case. Like like I be bumping her shit. Like what? So it's. Oh, you like Natalie. I like her because you haven't seen it. Exactly. Exactly. And that's what I mean. It's kind of just the illusion of the brand. It's the delusions of the brand. It's a pick up at the back and a trunk in the front, pick to kill the back. Yes, she cooked on the first one of one. This bitch that I got the money make a broke bitch mad. I don't complain. I just get the tag. Like, yes, you ain't that. It's very high. I just pay the tag. I know about that part. No, and every time I cringe at the tab, I'm like, just fine. No, I'm just paying my hands shaking. No, but no shade. It's kind of like when the worst person, you know, makes a bomb. And I feel like that kind of everyone needs days. No. No. Because you made a bomb. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Except for me. No, let's talk about the bomb. And let's talk about the album. Let's talk about making the bombs. Like what are what's going on? Tell us the bomb. Tell us about that process of going from like online to just like fucking, I'm gonna make some like bomb ass music. Bitch, literally, I feel like everything in my life happened so accidentally. In a way, like, even when I became an influencer, it was kind of just like, okay, like I really just came all here to show y'all I'm a bitch. Like I really just want to see my outfit. I'm from Georgia. I'm from Georgia. And yeah, did you grow up in Atlanta, though? No, right? Girl, okay. You have to pass a farm to get to my house. Like it's country, but it's mad country. Like I grew up in a place where it's like confederate flag, like fucking cowboy boots. I know about that. I grew up in a very similar place in Arizona, Arizona. The confederate was out there in a sense. They migrate. You see, but it's giving performative. It's giving performative in the sense that like everyone in Arizona wishes they were from like the people who rock like that. Wishes. They were from the deep south, whereas like the other half wishes they were from California. So it's just like and then we just have like hell like he bitches from Mexico who just like came to key. No, I love the alternative Mexican bitches. Oh my god. But not to take away from you. Oh yeah. So basically I started posting because I loved fashion. Like that's what I wanted to do. And then all of a sudden when I was posting because obviously like when you have a personal style, like you just like you start seeing similarities between like the office stuff. So people just started commenting under my pictures like, oh, this is like Alia core. Like every time I see this, it's just giving like you like it's Alia core down. And I was like, wait, that is Alia core like and then I was like, okay, let me just put this hashtag on like all my posts. I'm like gonna be hashtag Alia core because fucking like we gonna handle that. Yeah, and I'm gonna get paid for that soon. Oh shit. So after that people just started dressing in my style and stuff like that. But then I was just like influencing this tee and all but like I also want to do other shit too. And I was like, let me just go to the studio. Let me just see what's going on. Let me see what the fuck is going on over here because bitches just like they be like, they be having the best fucking time. Yeah. Like you a thai. Whoa. No, in a serious way. Cause like, when did you move to Atlanta? I moved to Atlanta for college. Okay. So yeah. And then you just kind of like stayed. Okay. So let me tell you about the real tea, right? So I went to college, but I really only went there to get out of my parents house. Cause that's what I was like, okay, I could go here for free. Like fuck around. I never went to class. I was like, okay, let me just get a job and like have free housing and do this. So I fucked around. But I knew like after that semester I had to like lock the fuck
I'm gonna have to pay my own bills because they're gonna give you the fuck out of here. That was so real, that's it. - So like I got a job, I started paying my own bills, and I was posting on TikTok while I was at my job and shit too, bitch. - So, um, I was like, Atlanta's cute, but like, let me see what the fuck New York's talking about, because. - Well, 'cause I didn't even say it. - Right, and everything's bitch got to do. - Hello, you got to New York, you got to go, you got to go. - Yeah, it was cute, it was, but. - Just paying that much for that. - She a bee. - It's fucked up. - Oh, she's a bee. - It's fucked up. - She's a bee. - I, like, again, it's just fucked up. - Well, and that's why I'd be throwing respect on every New Yorker name because y'all are like, your lives are evolving around something higher. Like y'all are toughing it out for the experience for- - Of a lifetime, I know. Like, very much for like the vibe, like y'all the ultimate curators in my eyes, 'cause like- - That's what I'm saying. - And I'll be romanticizing down, and I love. - That's what I'm saying. I'm like, I like romanticizing, but at the same time, I want like a actual space. - Oh, I couldn't handle it at all. - I couldn't handle that you pay for the city. The girls will be like, "You pay for the city." - That's why I'd be saying LA, like, "You pay for my home." - 'Cause it's just like, "You pay for my home." - Ren is expensive without doubt. But like, if you're paying like $6,000 in New York for like a box, dead the fuck out. - I'd go 400 square foot. - Literally 400 square foot, but like there's an elevator. In LA, you could get a house for $6,000. - Oh, if I had $6,000, I would literally own a house right now. - And I feel like in LA, you definitely get your money's worth. A little bit, 'cause then it's like, you're in LA too, so there's the connection part. - Yeah, right, right, right. - But literally, I was on a flight to New York when I was riding it girl, and I was like, 'cause you know, have y'all ever just gone on YouTube and be like, "Tight beat, like, let me just freak out." - Oh, yes. - Well, no, and that's why I don't be in the studio. - You're gonna be a girl. - Yeah, it's a trial, it's actually so fun. - No, I used to do that. Well, my sister and I, we get into fights, like the rap of them, right? - Yeah, and we really, that's how we would resolve our fights. We would literally go on YouTube and like, on the laptop and just type in like a random beat. And then we'd be like, "Girl, you're the worst." And you trash. Don't ever talk to me, you have no class. - Oh, yay! - You're healthy. - Yeah. And then she'd like, whatever, rip into me, and then we laugh as fuck, 'cause we were both horrible. - You almost made a song, so it's like, perfect. - Right. - But you're a super sorry, I'm like, I just- - No, that's fine. - And then taking a chance on it is so sickening. Like the idea of just being like, "Let me just see what's going on, baby, "that's art though, that's genuinely fine." - No, really, when I posted it, I threw my phone and I was just like, fuck it. Like, let's just see how this shit goes. - Right. - And it went really deep. - It went crazy as hell. - Well, that's crazy. - Yeah, it's been really cool, honestly. But I think it's not for me to do another pivot, like, "Tee." - What are we talking about? - No, Shay, like, I don't know. - What are we talking about? - I'm trying to figure that shit out too. - Well, and it all comes to you in a dream, really. Like, actually. - Yeah. - No, like, actually. - For real. - Everything comes to me in dreams. - Yeah. - This could be fucking fine. - Oh, 'cause you're locked in. - No, 'cause you're literally tapping into some higher shit. - Exactly, like, everything in the stream of your greater good, like, maybe no accidents in here. - That's really fine. - Unfortunately. - Yeah, it's just the alignment of trust. - The music is fine though. Like, I always say, like, go to the studio, make a song, and release that shit. Like, I think everyone should try music at least once. - Ah. - That's tea. - It's so fun. - It is, it's so fun. - It's so fun. - That's everything. - But at the same time, it's like not fun either. - Okay. - Okay. - There's no fun. - Well, I'm like, and that, and now itself is like, an older demon, an older running machine. That's like, you know what I mean? - Oh, sure, yeah, yeah, yeah. - 'Cause I feel like when I think of, like, the traditional, like, media spaces and stuff, 'cause, like, social media is pretty new, but, like, music, TV, at, like, you know, movies and shit, like, those machines have been running, especially me- - Oh, they oil that. - They have been running on some shit. That's, like, bad demons. - That's before, S-E-I. - That's the thing. - Yeah, bitch. - Yeah, yeah. - Not to be like, I do feel like the music industry is something where it's like, if you are not fully, like, the one thing you wanna do is music for the rest of your fucking life. Like, don't, like, do too much. Like, release that song and keep it cute, but, like, keep it, just keep it cute. - Keep it cute. - Yeah. - You know me? And I feel like that's where I kind of made a mistake. I was like, okay, I'm gonna just be a music artist, but not knowing, like, bitch, you know, you really, if you wanna be a music artist, you gotta go all the way up top, top, top, top, top, top, top, top. - Like, fuck anything else you wanna do, like, this is gonna have to be. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Like, I don't know. - What would you say is, like, - For me, what would you say is, like, the most challenging part? - Girl, I would say, having to go to the studio all the fucking time. Like, the studio is fun, you know? But it's also just kind of, like, a lot of times when you're in the studio, you're with people that you don't really know for real, where, like, either writers or, like, the engineer or the producers. And you never know if that vibe is gonna be good or not. - Tea. So it's, like, a lot of new energies you're introduced to on the daily, and it gets really exhausting. - Yeah, I can imagine. That's a different social day for sure. - Especially when you're trying to, like, keep the vibes pure, so you could, like, you know, something that you just wrote, like, on the fly, that, like, you know, really resonated with the girl. - That's right. - And then it's, like, now we're trying to, like, manufacture some shit, like, that's really-- - That part, it has to be vulnerable. - I was gonna say that's so vulnerable. - Oh, it gave us a crazy amount of vulnerability. - That's how you grow. - That's tea. - Yeah. - Hey, guys, we'd like to take a break to think a sponsor of today's episode, "Smarin' Office." The official drink of summer is now here. They're new variety packs, "Smarin' Office," "IC Island." My personal favorite flavor is the tropical teaky. Mix it, match, and get creative with your "Smarin' Office" creations. - You can bring an "IC Island" flavor like this to beach, pools, backyard parties, or even just hangouts with friends. 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Like, yeah, that's an ancient-ass shit. - Yeah. - Like, when I fucking say, like, you're gonna be their all fucking nation in one scene. - Oh, like, yeah. - She better not complain about shit or you're like, cut. Like, cut the rope in that bitch. Like, like, yeah, like, definitely get it. - Yeah, they only want real bitches in there for real. - Yeah, yeah. - Who we're gonna handle. Ooh, that's so real. - I'm like, influencing is fun, 'cause it's un-serious as fun. - It is. - I think I hope bitch, you better not, like- - Right. - Yeah. - You don't. - 'Cause they don't play. - They don't play. - So, honestly though, like, the influencing bitches don't play either, no shit. - No shit, it really got serious. - Well, 'cause the companies be like, come here. - Now, I'm like, no. - Okay, I'm sorry. - Like, I'm like, you need, like, not to be, you know. - Like that. - Well, like, this, like that, and like, and then do a flip, and like, do a flip. - Now, I'm like, yeah. - Like, come on, literally. - It's a difference. - It's a difference. - Yeah. - And it's like, reshoot it four times. - Right. - And just like learning something about that. Like, it's been very humbling. - It's been very humbling, mom. - No, I feel like, as somebody who joined the influencing during the pandemic, it changed a lot. - It's very dangerous. - Like, it changed a lot, bitch. Like, you could really just open your fucking phone and keep back in the day and get, like, money, like, real money. - Yeah. - But nowadays, these brands is like, if you want that coin, bitch, you're gonna have to shut your job a little bit. - Yeah. - And it's really scary. - Like, it's, yeah. - Yeah. - No, they really have nasty, like, literally pop it, pop that shit. - No, it's so scary. - In a handstand. - Yeah, pop it. - In a handstand. - And a split, too.
and if you can't learn and click the little boy about it. - Learner right now, girl, it is. - My whole 40 pages is like if you want to get 100,000 followers like do this, it's just like bitch, like this is, like y'all just made the shut up. - Yeah. - And everyone has a course, like who is teaching the courses? - But that's what I mean, I'm like again, again. Like that's that manufactured shit, right? Like it's just like-- - Like what's it talking about, that Trad Art, which is MLMs and marketing. You see, the girls always want to sell you how to do some shit. Guys, just go do it yourself. - Let's go do it. - You have fun. - You don't have to play with me. - If it's in alignment and it's meant to happen that you don't have to be manufactured with Art. - You're not trying to like, oh, let me like take, you know, spend a thousand dollars on this guy's course you can get followers. - Get followers. - Hello, and if you bitch is like who just got a thousand followers, like you're not going to teach me how to get 1000 followers. If you just figured that shit out, like are you crazy bitch? It's like everybody can't be the teacher. It's somebody got to be the student. Like, it's scary as fuck, like it's spooky. - Girl, girl, girl, girl. - No, everybody want to be the teacher. - Everybody, everybody wants to be the teacher, but it's like guys, what about with it? Listening with it, experiencing, having fun, yeah. - It's his own like, you know, there are things happening. - There's a gilded cage there too. - For sure. - Wait, how was it living in LA? - Well, I was going to ask you. - I was going to say, what are you doing in LA? Like what's going on? - Like I'm literally, 'cause I filmed a movie of. - Oh. - What are you talking about? - Girl, fuck you. - Oh, like, oh. - Okay, okay. - Okay, so you call this "Chop the Bitches." - Okay, sorry, just a little here and there and a little one too. - Yeah, you know, just a little movie, but I filmed a movie in South Africa. - Wow. - Yeah, in January. - Oh my god. - Yeah, and it's coming out in October. - Oh, so you're like, big movie actor. - And yeah, I'm gonna need my Hollywood walk of fame, star, very fucking shit. - But anyway, so I filmed a movie, and we were doing promo for it, and that's why I had to come here. And then I had a show at WeHoPride. - Oh, yeah. - What day? - It was on Saturday. - Oh my god. - The day of. - Yeah. - Puzzle cat. - Oh, right, well. And you know what I'm talking about stars until they get fit in there and try to, you know what I'm saying? - No, no. - Oh my god. - Oh my god, I think we did. - No, no, no. - Maybe I'm having a call, Loki. - Oh, and she playback, so it's just like what we do. - Which I love. - No, she's everything. - You know who they fucking be playing with, Loki? - Tyra, I like Tyra Banks. - No, you don't. - No, you don't. - I do. - I do. - I will say this Tyra Banks show Smiley Cyrus, Shiley Cyrus. Have you seen that, Clint? - Fuck no. - Baby, she used to do this bit. She's done it with me. So she did it with Beyoncé. - I don't know. - Play cheap, hey. She playing a way that nobody want to play anymore, where she would do like word associations with their name. Like she'd be like Sasha Fears. You like fashion. - Fashion fierce, literally. - Literally, oh, well, yeah, it's no literally, and I'm like, and for that. - It's definitely one of them bitches who are like not okay, like in the head. - Yeah. - But like, she's also like, this fuck, so like people excuse it. Like Kenya Moore, or like, you know what I mean? - Yeah. - Yeah. - I think you watched the America's next top model. - The documentary. - 'Cause I feel like they wedged the dog shit out of her. - And she is going to burn it now. - But at the same time, at the same time, though. - At the same damn time. - Definitely make history, but like she did, right? - She fucked up. - It's like Wendy though. It's like, you know, like she fucked up. But it's kind of like, that's the mother. - Oh, that's mother, but she has said some things that she should have got popped. But honestly, if you were anybody who was trailblazing in the early 2000s year shit messy, that's what I was thinking. - 'Cause the early 2000s were so putridiscussing like it was insane. - No, they were like talking to people in a way that like bitch. - Bitch. - Oh my god. - No. - No, thank god I was a child. - Oh, well, in the sense that right. And then we like grew up and we got married. - No, 'cause then you grew up and you're like, no, I was like riding into the biggest loser at 14, like, - Girl. - And they will burn. - 'Cause that's what I mean. Like they really have the mind like fucking fucked up, bitch. They had the mind all the way fucked up. It was actually so scary. - Like they were doing shit that I was like, oh my god. Like when I opened my eyes for the first time in game consciousness, I was like, oh, how? - Oh y'all all going to jail. - Round 'em up. - No, but I do feel like there was so much variety in TV in the early 2000s. Like now it's like if you don't like live island, like literally kill yourself. Like I swear to God. - It really is. - It is very like streamlined now for sure. 'Cause I feel like back then, now that we don't, I don't know, social media is not what it was. 'Cause now I feel like people and media in general definitely pour in to like creators and stuff and like people who want to have their own shows and like whatever and like, I don't know, it just got like diversified in a different media. But like before they'd be like, like honestly low key back in the day they were like shoveling shit out. - Yeah. - They would have gave us a show. - Big TV. - MTV would have gave us. - You a show. - Oh yeah. - They would have laterally, they would have got it together. - They would have gave you a show. But because like reality TV and like people aren't like turning on TV like, they're streaming the fucked up drag. - Yeah. - Like streaming absolutely done fucked up drag. It's just like so. - Honorable and awful. - Yeah. - Nobody got coined anymore. - That's what I mean. - Like if we really say her and think about it, like the budget is not budging for anything anymore. - Yeah. - It's not been budging for a long time. - Kind of sick. Like I was just watching Camora life in the Fablin. Have y'all seen that one? - No. - For OG. - Why did you think thinking about Camora? No, 'cause I like that. - The OG. - The OG. - The OG. - Yes. - Yes. - Yeah, it's her. - OG. - You know, Kisha Cole had a fucking. - Yeah. - They were giving. - They were fucking so. - On the TNVH1, they were holding at the fuck. - They were holding down. - Down with MTV and unfortunately TLC. - Oh, I don't see TLC dragatory because they were making shows that honestly y'all should have got. I don't even know. - Like what? 'Cause I feel like I can't remember this one. - TLC, let's wake up TLC's greatest hit. So let's wake up TLC's greatest hit. - I know that I trained addiction. - Well, my trained addiction was T. - That was T. - But they did have some fucked up shit on there. - Even dance malls or was that lifetime? - Was dance malls TLC? - Yeah. - Was it? - Was it? - Got. - Oh my God. - I don't know about four weddings. - That. - You've never seen four weddings? - No. - Moment, it's literally they bring four brides together and they all go to each other's weddings. And then they rate the girls, but they're all trying to win a honeymoon. So they'll always be like, food was like four out of 10. Like nobody ever rates anyone good 'cause they all try to win. It's two. - Milk man. - Milk man are like right now. - What the fuck is this? - Milk man are gonna be-- - What not to wear was like, they're gonna be much better. - Oh my God, like Dr. Pimp. And that was the start of like, one-week year. - I've only got the whole new age shit, though. - Yeah, this is like new shows. - Giant wife. - Sister wives, right. - This ain't God no, no. - Okay. - I will say. - For the E.R. period. - Um. - Right. - To Lisa. - Lisa. - Lisa. - You're like a poodle. - She was messy. - I used to watch her downboots, though, I'm sorry. - Wait, do you actually believe in like, mediums that have like TV shows and shit? Like they actually-- - TV shows? - No. - I don't know about the TV. That's me. Like the way this shit looking, I'm like fucking. - No, I'm like about to start eating like borax. Like literally. - Like literally, right. - No, to like the TV media. I've never seen Miss Teresa. - Oh, Teresa Caputa. - Yes, she's kind of the OG. - But I do have a medium from Long Island and I will say I stand behind her 1000%. - Really? - Like she's predicted the future for you. - Oh, in scary way. - Yeah, I swear to God. Like no shade, like not even trying to get dark as shit. Right now, like we gonna keep it right here. But like she like Luke predicted my dad dying type shit. - Really? - And she also predicted the show, though. - What? - And she's predicted, like my girlfriend before I met her. She was like, you're gonna go on this trip to Colorado then after that literally like a month later, I like met her. Like she'd be predicting the dog shit out of stuff. - What the fuck did she find this woman? - You know what's so funny? Random is fuck, my friend had a YouTube channel and she was like, we should do like kind of like a clickbait ass video where like we like meet with a psychic but she was like the realest motherfucking deal because one of our friends posted on TikTok and was like, guys, I just saw this medium and like I'm like freaked out as fuck right now. And so we like asked her who she was and she gave us her info and then we did like a YouTube video with her when I tell you from that day on, I only see her like once a year. There was a time where I didn't see her for two years. Like she will go like, 'cause she predicted my shit for the next two years, like when I saw her and one of those was like the show, my dad passing away and like some other stuff and all of it has happened. And even now like all the shit that she said in that previous call is like already like coming to fruition now and it's like absolutely in Zane. But she's also the team about her that I think is really cool/interesting is she works with like police departments and like the FBI and stuff to solve cold cases. - Really? - Mm-hmm. - And the cold case divas for that is fun. - Yes, 'cause she be, she like her specialty not, 'cause you know, I don't know. Psychics can do so much, like they could like read energy like all this stuff, like predicts things that are to come or whatever, but she can like literally talk to the dad like as fuck, like she'd be like tapping in as hell and being like, oh wait, what's this tea? And it's like insane, like she's like tapped for real. - That's my god. - And for the love of the game, for real. - I don't know if I'd wanna know that. - That scares me. - That scares the fuck out of me. - Okay, for me, well the whole thing with my dad, like when she said that, it was definitely one of those things where I was like, but she didn't say like, your dad's gonna die. Like it was just like something.
something's gonna happen. It's gonna be really, like it's gonna be the worst, like probably one of the worst things you think you've ever experienced and stuff, and like just remember this moment right here, like you're gonna get through it. - Okay. - And so that whole time I was like, what is the IRS gonna like arrest me? - Right, right. - I was thinking like more like that if you know what I mean, or like I was gonna get in trouble, or like I don't know, and then it was like my dad passing away. And the first thing I thought of was like, oh, I don't know, I guess I knew that I was gonna, but I also had a dream. - Okay. - And so for me, it was like, I kind of, I don't know. It's like one of those things were like in a weird way. Yeah, the intuition of just like something's gonna happen. Like, you know, it was just crazy as fuck, but I will say it brought comfort. I feel like because I was just like, it was gonna happen. - Right. - And she did tell you the good too, right? - Yeah. She did. And she was just like that. - No, no really, at least she took it back. - No, there is. And like it was T and like Loki, she like, when I saw her more recently, she like tapped me in with my dad. And I was, that was like really comforting. - Yeah, totally. - It was really nice. It was really nice. - No, she has very fucking pure energy like for real. Like her shit, it's very, she's very pure. - Yeah, it's a long island to be teed-o. - Yes, and she's from Long Island. She's from the island, it's fun. - For real? - The long island ice teed. - Grr. (laughs) - And we fucking be up. - Yeah. - Well, like, yes. - Right, right. - Something happening in Long Island. - That's right. - Yeah. - Something happening. - For real. - Something about that play. Snow for real. - Oh, boy. - But, yeah. - Because the girls be tapped in. I just like don't know if I believe in TV mediums in the same way that it's like, if you sing a song once a month, then it's probably gonna sound really good. But if I made you sing a song every single day, it's probably just not gonna be that good. - Really? Like in this episode. - What if you sing a song every single day it'll sound better because you're like getting better. - It might, but just like I mean the physicality of like singing the song, like the voice might be, or I just mean that anyway, like if I asked you to run once a month versus run every single day, like it might just look a little different. So I'm like, "Damn, are you really pulling up to set?" Like just reading like 60 people right now or is it giving me like a little joke? - Okay. - A little man, in fact, a little joke. - Well, and I was gonna say, 'cause I'm like Anthony Bourdain, like, you know, famously one of his, like, the episode where they go to, "God, take your TV off." - Take your TV off. - Take your TV off. - Take your TV off. - It's interesting, it's interesting. - But it's just like, when they like, killed the octopus already, and he was like, "What the fuck?" Like, that's not what this shows about. - Wait, what do you mean? - 'Cause like, essentially, he went out to see to like literally farm to table type shit. Like he was like, "I'm gonna kill this octopus and like, cook it and all this shit." And because they were running out of time, like on this trip, they hadn't like, killed anything, done anything. The, like the team killed the octopus. And before he even got there. - Yeah, so like, essentially, they made it seem like he killed it and they were like, "Bring it." And he was like, "That shit's already dead." And the whole point was like, I don't, with the quality of food and like all this stuff. And he was like, "I'm not trying to do some manufactured shit." Lowkey started a really big spiral for him, unfortunately. That was like a really big life. - When he talked about that in his book, he talked about it in an interview where he, it just like, he was like, "It fucked it shit up really bad." - Yeah. - He was like the realist white man ever. - Yeah. - He's like, like ever. - In a serious way. - I love him. - You see his anniversary, his death anniversary. - How do you call it? Death anniversary? - Yeah. - It was just came up two days ago. - Wow. - Yeah, that's crazy. - Eight years, bitch. - And it's just like, our shit's got a lot of crazy. - My fucking king. - My king for real. We're loving him. - God. - I'm like, yeah. - Sorry. - Sorry, sorry, sorry. - No, I'm like, thousand pound sisters are my favorite personally. - Right. (laughing) - Damn TLC Fave, though. I don't know. Dance moms, absolutely horrible. What they did to those children, psychies. - Great TV box. - Absolutely iconic TV. - Yeah, yeah. But I watch it back down. I'm like, no, literally that interview where Abby Lee Miller was like, oh, I don't regret any of it. - Oh, she was doing that up until like last week. Like she literally had a whole other show. - Wait, what? - Yes. - That bitch. - I don't know if they rebooted dance moms, but she had like, Abby Lee Miller's like dance offers. Like it was like a whole one too. - See, you just. - She found her calling. Like, you all can't read her. - No, Abby, she can't read her. - We on a television show, like a reality show that has nothing to do with it. - She need to be on traders. - Oh my God, that's the tea. They need to put Abby on traders on some real shit. - Oh, I mean, they, yeah. - Where is it? - Abby, no. Abby's ultimate dance competition. There it is. I think that's the one where she called this girl's haircut, Fugley. - Oh, I see. - And she literally goes, you with the ugly haircut and the girl steps forward on her own. - I said, oh, how? - Like, do you do? - How? - Y'all play. - Mom played her face in the back. - Abby's great TV. Like, we used to have also like TV stars. You know what I'm saying? Like, you can put her in anything and she just be saying shit. That's like, oh, you don't give a fuck. - If you would, like Tiffany Poler, Fugging. - Yeah. - Right. Right. And then, and then, right. - This is so exciting. - Tiffany Poler'd be. - No, really. - And it's just like New York. - Yeah. - Um, right. - Right. - What we're doing like mad. - Right. - I don't have anything to talk about TV. - Wait, are y'all watching any, or have y'all watched any movies recently that y'all really like? - Well, 'cause your movie down, as fuck. - Which one? - You are, like a movie, like movie head. - For real. - Oh, I am. - Yeah. - Oh, y'all are even listening to movies. - Oh. - Which are your favorite movies? - Ever. - And more of a comfort, you know what I mean? It doesn't have to be like a good movie. - Okay. - Oh, trust me. None of the movies I like are that good. - No, you need that, yeah. - Oh, waves? Have y'all watched waves? - Oh. (clapping) - Come on. - Thank you. - I'm gonna get up and shake your hand. - Well, well, after the movie had two. - Okay. - So, it's like one of my top movies, and I've never heard anyone else say that. - Bro, that shit is fucking fab. Like, I love it. - It's so good. - The shining, obviously. - The shining is cool. - The Lorax. - Thank you. - Thank you. - You're right. - I need to start giving a Lorax look. - Yeah. - Yeah. - What's your last favorite movie I need to know? - My favorite movie ever is Coraline, no shade. - I love, I'm also somebody where, I think I have a very specific kind of movie. Like, if it fits within like a kind of creepy, a little bit off world, I'm in there. - Okay. - Like, I like Coraline. - Black swan? - I can never get into that movie. - Are you serious? - Like, every time I watch it, I feel like I'm about to fall asleep. (gasps) - Yeah. - I'm popular with the game. - Well, I mean, I don't know if it's because I grew up like ballet down, but that's like my movie is like my dream. I love like some campy, stupid shit. - Me too. - I did that don't really make sense, but it's. - And I'm very, yeah. - A24 down, like. - Yeah, I think I already be in Wes Anderson's nachos. Like, not to be like a guy on Hinge, but I be in his nachos. - B2, because it's perfect. - The tender bum, that's my fucking. - Yes, that's that girl, that's that way. - Hell no. - And he got a discography that's really triple plot. - He though. - No one to talk about it. - No, he be healing, that's fun. - Okay, what about you? - I really like Lord of the Rings, like that. - But watch that. - Okay, I will say, and here's the tip. I mean, never watch either, I'm like, yeah. - The trilogy, like the trilogy, genuinely. I cannot lie, like Peter Jackson, really put his whole entire, like, pussy into that shit. There's no black people, which is very unfortunate. But that was just, you know, the times they did that, 'cause there was only white people. - Dust. - Hell no. - Yeah, 'cause there was only white people back then, but. (all laughing) - Move that to the side, and like, focusing on like, the movie in and of itself. I just have to get that to the flavor, because I'm like, guys, I'm-- - Oh, same thing Wes Anderson, he paid us. - Yeah. - Oh, for sure. - He pays ups. - But with that being said, when I tell y'all that like, if you told me that movie came out last year, I'd believe you. - Are you serious? - I swear, because they did so much shit, like, not CGI, like they built shit from scratch, or like, you know, the costume and makeup, like, they really did such a, like. - Wait, what the fuck is it about? - It's like, wait, what is, like, it's like the reading, but I'm like, yes, so yeah, it's like, essentially, about, what is it about, right? - Okay, there's these rings, there's these rings of power, and there is this really bad guy, Sarron, who like, took over the world. And essentially, someone like cut the ring off his hand, and as long as the ring lives on, he could like, always come back to power. And so Lord of the Rings is taking place during this time where like, he's kind of like building back up his army, he's trying to find the ring, and this hot-- - Like this tiny ass ring? - Yes, literally tiny ass ring, and this middle earth is the world that they're based in. And Frodo, this hobbit, that's best friends, with this wizard Gandalf, his uncle had the ring pass down to him. The ring got passed down to Frodo. Frodo didn't know who's this ring of power. Gandalf didn't even know, like, Bilbo, his uncle had it, and Frodo goes on this pilgrimage to destroy the ring. Because as long as this ring's still here-- - Full time, his uncle got it. - Yeah, and so the uncle passes his back. - Yeah. - Praise, he's a hungry little girl. - Yeah, soup. And the tea is everyone who, you know, man, wizard, it doesn't matter, they get corrupted by the ring 'cause the ring is pure evil. - Oh, the ring is evil. - Yeah. - I thought it was just like-- - Oh, but power. - Thank you, power. - Yeah, yeah. - 'Cause they don't wanna talk about the-- - Yeah, they don't wanna talk about the link of the ring. - And it can only be destroyed in the place that was made, which is Mordor, and it's like literally the only pro-- - The Quail Grimage as fuck, it's like the only quest as fuck. And he does it with his best friend, best friend. It's like a fellowship at first. And then he ends up going on the journey with his best friend and like this whole thing, it's fucking crazy. Anyways, it's such a good movie.
It's like literally the ultimate like you ain't nothing without your friend's ass movie, like genuinely that movie is the power of friendship personified in the most serious of ways. - Okay, you sold the fuck out of that movie, I might have to watch it. - No, it really is, like that shit, like if I ever need to raise my y'all y'all y'all, I go back to the ancient text and also the hobbit, which is like the precursor of how Bilbo got the ring, 'cause there's like T there. And for some reason I've used the hobbit and not like Lord of the Rings. It's just like great. - But the hobbit we need to wake up because the themes of greed that are in that movie are so motherfucking important. And like I think about it often and just like the world we live in today, it's also a really good read. But just like again, it was written like so long ago and the fact that like greed is just generally the most evil of all people. - It's really, really great. - Yeah, it's grittiest shit. And like, yeah, it's probably not very prevalent. - Always there. - So is Lord of the Flies a part of that series or no? - No. - That's just some kids on the island, mama, yeah. - That one kind of looks kind of interesting, no shade. - That book is like out of its god damn mind. - In a good or a bad way. - It's like, it's dark. - Real, but it's dark. - It's dark, but the Netflix show, like the BBC one that they put on Netflix new, like this year, I would highly recommend. - It's like really dark, but like the cinematographies and the acting for like such young kids, it's really good. - Yeah, wake that up. - Right. - Also, I'm so sad we're running out of time. - Girl, like the key was too big. - No, and I already knew this, I was just like so sad. - But we just had to fit it in though. - We just had to fit it in. - Well, I'm like, well, come back to LA like day, y'all play. - Y'all gotta come to Atlanta. Y'all have a fucking key in Atlanta. - We win. - We've been through it in a one time. - We got very quick, it was very quick. You see, we wanted to do a show, right? - Yeah. - Was it Georgia Tech? - Oh my god, was that like fucking nerdy as fuck? - There was a cool. - The girls are definitely big. - They're smart as shit. - They're smart. - Like how does like, well, what would y'all even do listening to us? 'Cause y'all have a da-da-da. Oh, da-da. - Yeah. - But I was like, y'all smart as hell. - So it's like, we were trying to talk about love as blind and they were like, they were like and we were like, exactly. - Like, Jayden Smith. - 'Cause you're literally techie but Jayden Smith. - And also just like, you know, looking at brain scans and shit, so I was just like. - So it's just like, what can we do? - We'll come through. - I would love to just like, hang out in Atlanta for real. - 'Cause we didn't know, T, and I do wanna go to-- - I'm gonna go out. - Oh, we didn't do anything. - We don't know. - Oh shit. - I did wanna go to Magic City 'cause I heard the wings are like, at least overrated this one. - Oh, I just-- - You're a better strip club. - I just wanted the wings. - We need a key. - Yeah. - Like actually, 'cause like, I wanna go to Atlanta, but it's one of those places where I'm like, somebody though has to actually like, show us around. - Yeah. - Or I don't know what to do. - 'Cause I'm like, I just want wings for real. - I don't even get, we had Hattie bees. - Hattie bees. - Mind she shit was bomb ash, but-- - Oh, bomb ash? - She said it! (laughing) - Hi there. - No shade. I don't even think I've ever had Hattie bees. I was so fake. - Why did I say you? - I'm sorry. - No, 'cause you're one of the, it's the culture. - It was giving, it was giving. - We should take that read seriously anyway. - Honestly. - Yeah, I just don't know T. - Out there. - I got y'all. - This is just like, next time. - I don't know here, well obviously you like double it. - Right, no actually 'cause, right. But we gon' get y'all on time, so it's no T. But let the girls know where to find you, what's going on, you know what I mean, like, right? - Wait, and we need your neighborhood watch. - Right, the neighborhood watch. - Our neighborhood watch is like-- - Just like anything. - A song, a movie, a song, a movie, media, whatever you want. - Just to like stick up on the board. - Yeah. - It didn't give me anything. - neighborhood watch, what should I, what should you watch? You should watch fucking the substance. That's a great movie. - Yes. - I love it. - And you were saying in the new scary movie. - The new scary movie, yeah. - That your song's in there. - My song's in there. - Thank you. - You're realized, which you need to be a manager. (laughing) - Like, see, yeah. And also, a severance is T as far as-- - Oh, well, right. - Well, what's the call? My EP is out right now for calling you on one. - Thank you. - Hello. - I'm a YouTuber, subscribe to my channel. - You got it. - And, stay tuned for more. - Yeah. - A lot of kids. - A lot of kids. - That's my ass. - Period. - Girl, period. - Well, they gon' find you. - Thank God. - Period. - What's your name, but-- - My neighborhood watch? - Yeah. - Mine is "Ballad of Mona Lisa" by Panic at the Disco. - Ooh. - It's really been putting some wind under my wings. 'Cause let's go back to the ancient fucking text. Nobody's done it like them since then. - No. - I'm sorry. - No or did kind of stuff their cookies up with their last one. - Oh, Paramore, but we can't even read Paramore though. She always been that girl and she's still that girl. So it's just like-- - My neighborhood watch is Phoebe Bridger's is back y'all. And I'm actually, I fucked up because that was what those alarms were by Phoebe Bridger's tickets. 30 minutes ago. - Oh, that's not. - There's never too late. - And no, well, and it's sometimes too late. - Well, with the tickets, 'cause you know, I'm gonna go, but you're gonna handle it. - I'm gonna go fight for my life on tickets. - You're gonna handle, girl. - I wish I knew that I would have literally also reinforced to take that. - No, she's gonna see this and be like, no, bitch, come to my concert. - Right, Phoebe. - Phoebe. - Phoebe. - The freestyle. - You're the girl's ticket. - Come on. - It hurts if it's the one without phones, right? - Yeah. - And she ate with that, that's a whole seaweed. - So bad. - That's why we be, yeah. - To get turned on. - It's gonna be a two hour key and for it. - Join the queue. - Okay, well guys, everyone prayers up the dom gets her shit. Like, obviously, and just like, thank you for coming through me. - Phoebe, we love you so much, generally. - Thank you. - And just yeah, we'll see y'all next time, same time next week, y'all know the judge. We love you guys so much. - Bye. (upbeat music)
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The group reflects on the decline of superstars in modern entertainment and calls for a collective manifestation of a new superstar.
Personal stories highlight shifts in pop culture, including generational changes in media consumption and social behavior.
Gen Z's engagement with reality TV, influencer culture, and streaming platforms is seen as more fragmented and less rooted in traditional forms of entertainment.
A strong emphasis is placed on authenticity, vulnerability, and personal growth in creative fields like music, acting, and fashion.
Influencer culture has shifted from authentic, grassroots growth to highly manufactured, course-based systems that prioritize quick results over real skill development.
The early 2000s are nostalgically remembered as a time of diverse, bold television programming and creative expression, in contrast to today’s streamlined, formulaic content.
The discussion includes a personal experience with a psychic whose predictions have come true, signaling a belief in alternative forms of knowledge and intuition.
Technology and lifestyle habits (e.g., the "brick" phone blocker) are used as metaphors for boundary-setting and intentional digital detox.
Summary:
The conversation explores the fading of traditional superstars in modern entertainment and the cultural shift toward more fragmented, algorithm-driven media consumption. Participants reflect on how Gen Z’s engagement with reality shows, social media, and influencer culture lacks the authenticity and depth of earlier decades. There’s a strong sense of nostalgia for the early 2000s, when TV programming was diverse, bold, and inclusive—like *America’s Next Top Model* or *Four Weddings*—compared to today’s oversaturated, formulaic content.
Personal anecdotes reveal how creative fields like music and acting now demand more discipline and vulnerability, with some participants sharing experiences of making music in studios or filming a movie in South Africa. A recurring theme is the rise of manufactured content—especially in influencer courses—versus the value of self-driven, authentic growth. The group also highlights digital wellness tools, like the "brick" phone blocker, as ways to reclaim focus and reduce screen time.
Finally, a personal encounter with a psychic who accurately predicted life events—such as a relationship or a family member’s passing—adds a layer of mysticism and belief in intuitive, non-scientific forms of knowledge. The overall tone is one of reflection, longing for authenticity, and a call to re-engage with meaningful, real-life creativity.
FAQs
It refers to rekindling interest in traditional media, reality TV, or pop culture, especially in contrast to current trends where content feels stagnant or less engaging.
Many feel that the rise of social media has diluted authenticity, leading to a lack of standout, influential figures who command attention and respect like in earlier generations.
The 'brick' is a physical device that, when used, blocks phone access to apps like Instagram or TikTok. Users must physically place it to unblock, creating a deliberate break from screen time.
Reality TV has become overly streamlined and formulaic, with fewer diverse or groundbreaking shows, unlike in the early 2000s when there was more variety and creativity in programming.
They refer to the early 2000s when TV networks like MTV, TLC, and others created bold, diverse, and innovative shows that gave opportunities to new talent and created cultural moments.
They report that certain predictions have come true, such as personal events or family tragedies, and that these experiences feel authentic and deeply meaningful.
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