Is the Antichrist on the World Stage? A Prophecy Researcher Makes His Case

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Save $300 now through September 8th at pre-nouveau.com. Terms and conditions apply. Welcome back to faith and friction where we are confronting all of the challenging conversations that cause friction in the church. Today's episode is an exciting one. It's one that we all love talking about the anti-Christ. Is he on the world stage today? Is he alive? Have we seen him on the news? I mean, there is so much to unpack here and I'm really praying that we have enough time to do so in our book. Holy cow, in times prophecy just got real. We briefly mentioned the profiles of the anti-Christ. What he could look like, but our guest today is actually putting a name to it. What could be the potential person that fits all of these characteristics? I'm really excited about today and our guest. I'm just going to say this before we get started. Ryan sent me his book, the beginning of this week, probably like Monday. I read it in 24 hours, guys, and this is it right here. This is all the questions. All the notes that I have and I even told him before, I was like, I have so many questions. I am so intrigued about his theory. Like some of the things I had never connected the dots to. And so we're going to ask those questions. We're going to follow the breadcrumbs and we're going to hear who he thinks this could potentially be. And at the end of us, you can have your own decision on what you think. But today's guest is Ryan Speakman. He is a lifelong student of biblical prophecy of the end times. He serves as an associate pastor at Living Word Family Church in Arizona. He graduated summa cum laude from the University of Arizona with a bachelor's degree in international relations. He then attended Thunderbird School of global management on a full scholarship and earned a master's degree in international politics and economics. Ryan regularly conducts boots on the ground research throughout the Middle East. And is the author of the best selling these final days book series. So Ryan, welcome to faith and friction. I really hope you're ready because we've got a lot of questions that we really want answered. I love this. Yeah. And you sent me at least some of your questions in advance. And they're just great questions. Yeah. Amazing. I love your ministry. I've been watching for quite a while. My kid watches it. You guys do a really good job. I think you guys are very anointed and tuned in this topic. Thank you. I'm already going to say something awful. And we're just getting started a bit just in my own opinion. I feel like, you know, most people who teach this topic aren't necessarily like called to or anointed to you guys are. So keep at it. Thank you. That means a lot. I also believe that about you as well when I just started reading your book and I was just going to skim it and then I find myself having read all of it within a matter of a day. So okay. So before we get started on like you telling us your theory or who you believe this person could be that is alive today, can we just kind of establish what scripture actually says about what we're supposed to look for in the first place? Again, we briefly mentioned it in our book, but I want to hear from you. When we talk about the antichrist, who exactly are we talking about? Biblically. You know, it's funny. I'm sure you hear this too because you regularly delve into this, you know, topic of the antichrist and tell me if you've heard this one before from like other pastors or whatever. They'll say, oh, well, I'm seeking the true Christ, you know, you're seeking the antichrist. And, you know, of course, that they mean that as a dig. Here, I'm saying not something else awful. I'm sorry, so sorry, but but it's true, right? We get that. But the thing is, is that the Bible, God's Word, which, which comes from God himself, it talks about the antichrist all the way through the entire Bible from Genesis to Revelation. So, you know, it seems to me that God very much wants us to to be watching out for this person. We know that Jesus is, you know, parting sermon before he went with the cross. That was the all of it discourse. His second longest recorded sermon that that's all about the end times. And he definitely talks about the antichrist. And in particular, what the antichrist does, the abomination of desolation, we know that God's, you know, parting written word to mankind is the book of Revelation. And that's all about this end time story, which again, you know, gets heavily into the topic of the antichrist. So, we are supposed to be watching for him as far as what he looks like and who he is and his characteristics. It's interesting because the Bible definitely does give us some clues to, you know, his personality, his characteristics, even his ethnicity, his background, you know, where he comes from, where he'll rule from. We get more about what he does than necessarily like his, you know, nature, et cetera, et cetera. But yeah, it's very very clear. And I'll tell you, I was hesitating. I think I'm going to jump into this point immediately. The Bible also indicates extremely strongly for us that the antichrist, when he comes, we as Christians will know him as the antichrist. Unfortunately, the Jews, who you and I both, you know, love, I mean, you and I are, you know, major supporters of Israel and the Jewish people. But we know that, you know, part of the end time story is that to the Jews, the antichrist, at least for a time will be the Mashiach. They'll believe him to be their Messiah and the follow him. And then, of course, they'll, they'll realize as the story progresses. And that's why the Apostle Paul says in Romans chapter 11 that in the end all Jews will be saved. They'll realize, you know, the two witnesses will be part of this process, right? But this character also figures prominently in Muslim eschatology. So in Islam, there's a character called the Makti, which is the Muslim in times Messiah. And in Islam, they also have a seven year great tribulation. They have an antichrist figure. But but a key point is that the Muslim version of the end time story is kind of the the negative image or, you know, the kind of bizarre old version of the Christian story of the end time. So so our antichrist is their Messiah. But because of this, and again, and we can talk about this if you want to, but but I think the Bible tells us to the extent that is at all possible that yes, this guy, you know, the the antichrist will be Muslim, okay, ostensibly. Because, you know, the antichrist, he he's not really anything. He's he's in essence Satan personified. He doesn't care about any religion. He doesn't care about any. He doesn't care about Allah, you know, whatever. He just has his sights on that throne on the temple mountain Jerusalem. That's that's his end game, right? But he but he is going to is using, you know, and has been using for, you know, almost 1500 years. Islam as a vehicle to achieve his, you know, ultimate aims, right? So so if that's the case, this is self-assinating. And you saw this in my book, right? If that's the case, then this this for us as Christian teachers of the end times, it just opens up a treasure trove for us of more details about the antichrist that we don't get in the Bible. But but the question becomes, well, what what are the Muslims looking for? You know, like if they're looking for their end times Messiah, what what hints are going to tell them what details are going to indicate to them? Hey, this guy is your is your Messiah. So yes, yeah, that is one of the points that I had not ever really considered was the Muslim side to this because in your book, you're saying that the Muslims are waiting for this modic guy, if I'm saying that correctly. It's like mock D. You got to do like a mock D. Yeah, they think you did great. But that for Christians is also known as the antichrist. Like I yes, that is so interesting. I had never heard that before. So can you just for someone that has never heard of, you know, Islamic in time prophecy, can you just explain? I don't think people grasp that they are also waiting for a Messiah. You know, and only when when this person of interest for me first rose to power on December 8th, 2024. So it's been about, you know, 20 months now, you know, already I was watching for a Muslim guy. Okay. So I first kind of got the the revelation. I mean, you know, how these things come to you and sometimes it's by studying, you know, digging in and then sometimes and she'll just get a moment where it's like, you know. Holy Spirit revelation, right? But I was standing up on top of the Mount of Olives. My first trip to Israel in 2012, at this little crusader structure called the Chapel of the Ascension, which is surrounded by this big dilapidated mosque. Okay, it's just layers, upon layers of history, but this little brown structure with a dome on top built by the crusaders, it marks the spot where Jesus ascended to heaven in Acts 1, which means that it marks the spot where Jesus will come back at his return the second coming. So I'm standing up there, I'm looking. Again, surrounded by this remains of this mosque. And that's where it hit me. Oh my gosh, our Antichrist is the Muslim Messiah. But again, understanding that it just opens up a whole round force, but I'm not the first one to get this crazy idea, okay? So if you study the history on this, this goes all the way back to when Islam first appeared, when Muhammad first wrote the Quran and all this started. The early church fathers at that time, I'm not sure we can call them that by the year 600, 700, but very, very early Christians. They were, you know, saying this, they were positing this, hey, this new religion that just sprung up that they call Islam. Muhammad wrote about this in the Crom, the end times Messiah, the Makti. So they looked at it and they said, this is our Antichrist, okay? And in recent times, like in the early 20th century, there were a couple of prominent Christian teachers who suggested this. More recently, do you remember what Walid Shibat, you're probably 200, remember him, okay? Make me feel old here. He was probably right around the year 2000, you know, pretty well known. And if I remember correctly, he's Palestinian, Palestinian Christian, but in 2005, he published a book, digesting this, hey, the Antichrist is actually the Muslim Makti. And in the exact same year 2005, our mutual friend Joel Richardson published his book called the Islamic Antichrist. I think he calls it. But anyways, it's Joel Richardson. You remember you and I were on a podcast with him last year, yeah? I didn't really get the revelation till 2012. So Joel had me beat by seven years. He'd be happy about that. So Joel had actually been watching for someone to rise out of the Middle East, out of Islam. Who could fit this description of the Antichrist? 'Cause, you know, we're supposed to be watching for the Antichrist. Are we supposed to be watching for the true Christ? Of course, but the Antichrist precedes Jesus' return to earth. So I'm not trying to like, you know, get credit for anything, but within about two hours after this person of interest for me, after he appeared on the world scene and I saw his picture on CNN. I follow up the news sites from Alta Zero, BBC, Israel, Israeli press, of course. But I happen to be looking at CNN. It was a Sunday evening. And I mean, within a minute, I'm like, oh my gosh, this could be the guy. Now listen, I first got the calling for this topic, the end times, when I was nine years old, I'm turning 59 in two weeks. So that's literally half a century. And I've been teaching and writing since 1999. So that's more than a quarter of a century. And I have never, and anyone who knows me will, you know, confirm this, I have never once remotely named a person of interest. Okay, so I have been watching for this person we call the Antichrist since I was nine years old and I've been studying and preparing and trying to, and this is how prophecy works. It's not so you and I can impress everybody with our powers of prediction and look how good my crystal ball is. It's so as things take place, you and I are equipped. We're ready because we know the word, we know the scriptures, we're prepared to recognize these things, you know, people, places, events. So I've been, you know, I've been watching for the Antichrist my whole life. And, and I'm the biggest wet blanket, you know, Gorbachev, you know, Reagan, Bill Gates, Elon Musk now, Donald Trump, Prime Minister Netanyahu. Everybody has their favorite Antichrist. The French President Macron, if anyone's still saying that King Charles, everybody has a theory and the Pope, oh my gosh, that's a very, very, you know, popular one. And I'm always the guy that says, no, that, you know, Trump can't be the Antichrist because this, this, this, and this, this guy showed up and again, Annalee within minutes. I'm like, so my kid is doing a 17 year old daughter again, she's doing a Bible study with her friends in the dining room and I walk over with my phone and I show them this guy's picture. And I said, see this guy, I just want to be the first one in the world to say it. This could be the Antichrist, right? They think I'm a nut that they know me, you know, they know me, he was, so three days later, Joel Richardson, our friend, actually came out in a podcast. He was the following Wednesday and it was like 45 minutes long and he was saying, see, I've been telling you guys forever, the Antichrist is going to come out of Turkey, Turkey or Syria, okay? And he'll be Muslim, he'll be, you know, Middle Eastern. And Joel did this whole 45 minute thing where he was saying this guy could turn out to be the Antichrist, right? I don't know if you remember, but by the time that you and I did the podcast with Matt Haas, somehow we got the three of us on there, but I actually challenged Joel and that podcast I don't know if you remember. And I said, hey, Joel, do you remember back in December or this guy and you did this? And I said, you haven't, you know, mentioned him since then. And I remember what Joel said, he said, well, you know, everybody wants to be the first one to call it and that's true, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't call it when we see it, right? The guy I'm talking about, I'll just say his name, Akhmad Al-Sharah, about a week ago, Joel did a video and it's probably an hour long and it's about the Antichrist. At the very end, Joel shows, this is a week ago, Joel shows a picture of Donald Trump and he says, this is not the Antichrist and then he shows the Pope and he makes a joke. He says, this is not the Antichrist and then he doesn't even say the guy's name, but he flashes a picture of Akhmad Al-Sharah, the current president's area. So I think that Joel's finally come like full circle, 20 months later and he's apparently still keeping eye on this guy. - So you believe this guy checks all of the boxes. This is the Syrian president, which was a terrorist. - He was not just a terrorist. So the day that he walked into Damascus again, December 8th, 2024 with his group, HTS, Hayat terrar al-Sham, he had been operating for years under a pseudonym, right? So Abu Muhammad al-Jalani was his pseudonym. It is Nome Degur, it's called like a name for war, right? An al-Jalani or al-Golani is actually reference to the Golan Heights, which is where his family is from, right? That's one of the connections. - So can you just help us? First of all, we hadn't even considered that this Antichrist could be Muslim. So like from what I've read in my understanding, this is a Jewish guy. How do you have a Jewish guy and also a Muslim guy? - So I love this, that's an excellent question that shows that you're very well studied, which I really know that you are or knew that you are. - Yes, that's true. So the Bible in the book of Daniel chapter 11, it gives us a very, very strong clue that the Antichrist is descended from an Israelite tribe, because it says in Daniel chapter 11, verse 37, it says he will not regard the God of his fathers or the desire of women, which is a reference to the true Messiah, okay? Or any other God, for he exalts himself about them all, well, the God of his fathers, that phrase, throughout the entire Bible, anytime it's used, the fathers always refer to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. So this means that the Antichrist has to descend from Jacob who was renamed Israel and Jacob had 12 sons, and those are the 12 tribes of Israel. So we also know very conclusively in my opinion, okay? That he comes from the tribe of Dan specifically. So not just one of the 12 tribes, but specifically the tribe of Dan, we could talk about that. So that does beg the question, well, how can he be both Jewish and Muslim? I'll tell you, and even stronger challenge or emphasize that you're challenged along those lines, is that if you ask any Jew, any were in the world practicing Jew, right? I have a lot of rabbi friends, Jewish friends, and Israel here in the States, mostly in Israel. And they all tell me, you know, Messiah, when he comes to Mashiach, he's got to be Jewish. He's a Jewish guy, right? That's kind of like, you know, required. And then I'll ask them, well, how do you know the Mashiach when he comes, how will you recognize him? One thing, he rebuilds the Jewish temple, okay? So whoever rebuilds the Jewish temple, builds the third temple, that person is the Mashiach, and the Mashiach has to be Jewish. Well, my immediate challenge to that is, look, in the Bible in the book of Isaiah, there's a guy named, by name, Cyrus, and it literally calls him Mashiach in the book of Isaiah. It literally used that word Mashiach. - Really? - And that was written about a hundred years before the Babylonian captivity, when the Jews were taken, that first temple was destroyed, Jerusalem burned to the ground, right? A million Jews killed. A bunch of them taken into Babylon captive, right? And that went on for, you know, several decades, and then the Meadow Persian Empire took over the Babylonian Empire, and there was a king named King Cyrus, okay? The rabbis, or the Jewish leaders at the time, they may have called them rabbis. They actually took, there's scripture, they took the book of Isaiah, to King Cyrus and said, "Look at this, a hundred years ago, one of our prophets wrote your name," says Cyrus right there, and called you the Mashiach, which means that you're supposed to help us rebuild the temple, and King Cyrus, in fact, sent them all back. That's the story of Ezra and Nehemiah, Zurbabel, to rebuild Jerusalem, rebuild the wall, and rebuild the temple. And so, listen, King Cyrus, he was not Jewish, not remotely, he was a pagan foreign king, and he is named in the Bible as Mashiach. So that requirement that the anti-Christ has to be Jewish, that in and of itself is not valid. It's just not, and here's the point of this. If my guy, the guy that I'm watching in demand, is Akmada Al-Sharah. If it turns out that that he is who I think he is, right? And he makes this deal with Israel, the seven-year covenant to rebuild the temple in Jerusalem. The Jews are going to accept it. They're going to be like, oh my gosh, someone's finally rebuilding the temple. Not only is it a Muslim guy, but he's got the entire backing of the entire Muslim world, okay? That's what I was about to ask. Does he have enough influence to be able to do something like that? I don't ever think of Syria as being, you know, this forerunner in anything in times really. I know. And this is the whole trick here, Analy. This is how Clevver Satan is that when the Antichrist shows up, I think he's already here, that he's going to fly under. Everybody's radar. He's so boring. He's so mellow. He's so calm. It's Syria, who cares about Syria. But look at everything this guy's accomplished. So you mentioned earlier that he was a terrorist. He wasn't just a terrorist. He went off when he was a teenager and joined up with Al-Qaeda in northern Iraq, okay? The main guy, Al-Baghdaddi, very famous guy, the leader of Al-Qaeda in Iraq, and within a year had become second in command in Al-Qaeda, a teenager. Now this is strange, all right? And he was also pushing weird buttons up there, telling people, hey, you know, if you guys mess with this group called the Yazidis, which I think is the tribe of Dan, that's I'm getting off on rabbit trails here. I'll kill you. I mean, just weird stuff. At one point, Al-Shiraf finally got picked up by the US, okay, because we were there. And we threw him into prison. And he spent four or five years in the American prison system for Al-Qaeda, bad guys in Iraq, right? He charmed his way out of it finally and got released after after four years, I think it was. But while he was in prison in Iraq, he met this other guy named Al-Zarqawi, who I don't know if you recognize that name, he was the founder, the founder of ISIS, the founder. Oh wow. And when he founded ISIS, it wasn't ISIS, it was ISI, the Islamic state of Iraq, because that's where they were. And do you know what the second S and ISIS stands for? No. Syria, and guess whose idea that was? It was Al-Shiraf. He went to Al-Zarqawi, anyone to Al-Baghdadi, and ISIS and Al-Qaeda were friends back then. And I'm not making this up. I'll show you the articles and the economists and, you know, et cetera, et cetera. So he went to the leader of ISIS and the leader of Al-Qaeda. He said, "Hey, this civil war just broke out in Syria. This was the year 2011." And he said, "Right now it's kind of secular, and it's ideological, it's political, but I want to make it about Islam. I want to make this a jihadist, you know, effort, right?" And so they gave him $50,000, and six guys in a pickup truck, and they crossed the border into Syria to establish the Syrian branch of ISI, which made it ISIS. So that second S, literally, it was Al-Shiraf. And a couple years later, he very skillfully, cunningly maneuvered away from both ISIS and Al-Qaeda, because he had a different tack, because I think he's who I think he is. And because of that rift, you can look this up. That's why today ISIS and Al-Qaeda are bitter enemies. Al-Shiraf did that. He split them up. It's just this young guy, like nobody. So he's a pretty interesting guy, but when he rose to power in December of 2024, he had a $10 million bounty on his head from the US, right? He was one of the 10 top most wanted terrorists on planet Earth. They didn't know who he was, but you know, here he is, like, look, I'm out of the closet. It's me, surprise, right? And it was actually the Biden administration, because this was just one month before President Trump, that a month and a half before President Trump began his second term in office. President Biden was still president when Al-Shiraf showed up in Damascus, and Biden sent his State Department team over to Damascus to meet with Al-Shiraf to see what this guy is all about, right? Are they going to go and collect the bounty? Within an hour and a half meeting, they came out and they said, "This guy's great. Lift the bounty." It was Biden who actually lifted the $10 million bounty. Just within the last day or two, our State Department finally officially took Syria off the terrorist list, or terrorist state list, which opens up the door for a whole bunch more forward investment. So this nobody, right? This guy who was a terrorist, he happens to be in Saudi Arabia and Riyadh in the following May, May of 2025, and President Trump happened to be there. So Trump was there for this conference on the Middle East, and the crown prince of Saudi Arabia, Mohammed bin Salman, was telling Trump, "You got to meet this guy. This guy's great. This new president is Syria." And Trump's like, "I don't have time to meet this guy. I don't want to meet this guy." Salman got the Turkish president Erdogan on the phone. It's like junior high school here, right? Got him on the phone, and he's saying, "Yeah, Trump really should meet this guy, right?" So Trump finally said, "Okay, I'll shake his hand." End up being about a 40-minute long meeting, which is long for Trump, right? At the end of it, Trump said, "This guy's great. He's a real tough guy. I'm going to start helping him. We're going to lift the sanctions. We're going to take him out the terrorist watch list." And that day, Trump, he went to Saudi Arabia with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu as his BFF, and that day it switched to Al-Sharah. And I'm serious. If you look at the story since Trump first met with him, a few months later, Al-Sharah was the first Syrian president in 60 years to speak before the United Nations. He came to New York. Two months after that, he actually went to Washington, D.C. and met with Trump in the Oval Office. And there's a little video of Trump spraying him with the Trump Cologne. I didn't know Trump had his own Cologne. So you got to try this Cologne, right? Yeah, right, but he's like spraying this like, you know, former terrorist guy, right? And Trump also met with him again a couple months ago in Turkey at the NATO Summit. So as of today, annually, in Trump's second term, he's met with probably 60, close to 60 different world leaders. The only world leader who Trump has met with more than Al-Sharah is Netanyahu. That's weird. Whoa. Yeah, he's met with Al-Sharah more than, yeah, he's met with Netanyahu a few more times. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can be that, but that's so interesting. Okay, that leads me to one of my questions because in your book, you talk about how in Islamic prophecy, this Mahdi is known as having calmness and dignity, right? And so you're kind of listing things that Al-Sharah kind of already fits the description for in the Islamic prophecies of their Messiah. But when I think of the anti-Christ, like thinking of Daniel, it says he speaks great things, he boasts, he's persuasive, he's deceptive. But I think of it as being this guy that's very charismatic, that's very out there. And this guy is like flying under the radar, it feels like so. Yes, he is, he is, he's interesting. How does that work together? How do you put those together? Yeah, it's just a great question. So that is one of the many check boxes that he's checking on the Muslim column, right? Muslim eschatology for the Mahdi. And that one is like so nebulous. It's like, it's very subjective. Like, okay, you say he's calm and dignified. Every article ever done on him, every biography, everybody actually points that out very overtly. It's weird how calm and mellow this guy is very dignified. Nicholas Pellum is a very famous biographer, did a big write-up on him and the economist, right? And I'm sorry, yeah, the economist and then the financial times has done work on him. But this always comes up like how calm and dignified he is. In fact, even is a United Nations speech, every speaker was supposed to stop at 15 minutes. Nobody did at the entire United Nations, you know, this last November, Trump went on for an hour, hour and a half, like he broke all the rules. Al-Shurah wrapped his speech up in nine minutes. It was very boring, very low-key. He used the word dignity three times, I noticed, right? But yeah, it does not mesh with how you and I have been trained. So in Christianity, we've been taught that the Antichrist when he shows up that he speaks pompous words and he blasphemes the most high and he's got a mouth on him, right? And he's just, you know, mouthy and loud and obnoxious. So what I'll point out is that it does say that in Daniel chapter seven and in the exact same verse where it says that, that he speaks pompous words, it says that the saints are given into his hand for a time, times and half a time. That's three and a half years. And then in Revelation chapter 13 where it says that, that he blasphemes the most high and speaks, you know, pompous words, basically says the same thing. In the exact same spot, it says that he persecutes the saints, Christians and Jews for three and a half years. So my point is that in Bible prophecy, in both Old Testament and New Testament, we don't get a depiction of the Antichrist behaving that way, pompous and mouthy, blaspheming until after he's committed the abomination of desolation. So he's got to get to that point first. And I'm going to, I'm going to suggest that to get to that point, this is the most, I wouldn't have guessed it, like seriously, I've been watching for this guy my whole life and the way it's playing out is so much smarter than anything I could have imagined. He's, he's staying off everybody's radar. Very few Christian end times teachers, speakers, pastors are even looking at him, paying attention. There's a few Muslim scholars who are looking at him saying, we think this guy might be the mockty. So that's notable, right? But, but yeah, think about it for this guy to make his move. And remember, so you know what, like Second Thessalonians chapter two, what Paul says about Christians during the time of the Antichrist that they're deceived, that there's a great apostasy, which means that they follow the And I cry. How is any Christian going to think this guy's okay if he's behaving the way that we've all been trained to think the Antichrist is going to behave? He doesn't come across a sinister. He doesn't come across as evil. He comes across as the nicest, most mellow guy and he brings peace to the Middle East. Yeah, and that's why the whole world, you know, Revelation chapter 13, you know, the whole world marvels because this guy was able to achieve what nobody else could, which incidentally is looks like Palestinian statehood. I think that that's the actual deal is third Jewish temple in exchange for Palestinian statehood. And I'm so sorry, can I can I finish an answer I started 10 minutes ago and got got up track. One, one of the details of Muslim eschatology, this is crazy. You ready for this. And this is a little bit of a fringe understanding. It'll become less fringe as time goes on is that the Makti, when he comes, he will rebuild the bait El Maktis. So, so do you know the term bait homic dash? That sounds familiar, but no, I couldn't tell you what that is. That's okay. That's okay. So bait homic dash is the Hebrew name for literally the Holy Temple. It means nothing else. The bait homic dash is the Holy Temple bait El Maktis is the Arabic version of the Hebrew term bait homic dash, right? Because the languages are so close. They're most Semitic languages. So literally Muslim eschatology says. And again, this isn't a mainstream understanding, just like what you and I believe about the time of the rapture isn't mainstream. It doesn't mean it's, you know, wrong. But you'll find this in Muslim eschatology, some of it like people that go deeper that the Makti will rebuild the Jewish temple on the temple mound. And then you look at other aspects of Muslim eschatology and it makes perfect sense. He ends up at the Jewish temple and he recovers the Ark of the Covenant and he recovers all the temple, you know, the kutramins. And then the false prophet when he shows up, he's, he's named Issa Ibn Mariam in Islam. Okay. Gosh, I'm going everywhere. I'm so sorry. Issa Ibn Mariam means Jesus, the son of Mary. Yes, that Jesus. Okay, so, yes, so Jesus actually shows up in Muslim eschatology very, very prominently, his description in Islam matches our description of the false prophet. So, of course, it's not really Jesus. But, you know, he's involved, you know, in the context of the of the Holy Temple. Here's the thing. When the time comes for this guy to make his move and let's say it's al-Sharah. And he goes to make this deal with Israel. Hey, you guys finally read a Palestinian statehood. I can prove this, literally, prove, you know what I mean, prove. And in exchange for that, the Muslim world will rebuild the temple. And then the Muslim world's going to say, what, what, what are you talking about? And then it'll come out. Look, you guys in the Quran in the Hadiths. It says that the mocked in when he comes, this is what he does because he's Solomon was a Muslim. Just like Adam was a Muslim. And no, it wasn't Jesus was a Muslim. Moses was a Muslim. This is what the Muslim say to 100% true. So that means the King Solomon's temple was actually King Solomon's mosque, which was the greatest mosque in Islam. Okay, so much so that when when Muhammad started their religion of Islam, they didn't pray toward Mecca. They prayed towards Jerusalem toward the mosque toward King Solomon's mosque. So, so the height of Islam is going to be the rebuilding of King Solomon's mosque. And the Jews are going to be great because they're going to be like, okay, you guys call it a mosque if you want that you're building, you're helping us to rebuild King Solomon's. Listen, it's the only way can be done. Isn't it crazy? Now that you say it, it makes, it's like, okay, that makes sense. And also puts, I always had, I was always curious about the verse in Revelation 24 where it says that we're going to be be headed for the testimony of Jesus. And I always thought the beheading part was really interesting because that's a really identifiable radical Muslim practice. So when you started talking about Islam being, you know, a major component of this in times anti Christ, I connected those dots. And I'm like, oh my gosh, that makes so much sense. Yes. I mean, we're going to see the beheadings taking place right now. It's what they do. It's, yes, it's, it's how the radical Muslims dispatch their their enemies and by their enemies, I mean those who refuse to convert to Islam. So Christians and Jews, right? I mean, it just fits perfectly. And also, Annali, you know, we know that we know what the abomination of desolation is in essence, that's the anti Christ. Commandering the rebuild Jewish temple, who cares about the rebuild Jewish temple, who cares about that, that piece of real estate, besides the Jews, will the entire Muslim world. This is the absolute epicenter of rural conflict and has been for ever since, you know, 1948 and really 1967 when the Jews recapture the temple Mount. So of course, it's going to be the Muslims who are backing the one guy who ends up taking over the temple and ends up, you know, murdering Jews and Christians. Like, who else would it be? Of course, it'd be the Muslims. And do you know that it's a craziest hand? Can I read something at a scripture here? Okay, so this is Daniel chapter 11, and I think that all in times teachers agree that this is describing the Antichrist, right? So then the king, the Antichrist, she'll do according to his own will. He shall exalt and magnify himself above every God. She'll speak blasphemies against the God of God. And again, Annali, this is, this is describing like going forward from the abomination of desolation. Which will take place halfway through the seven-year greater delation. And she'll prosper until the wrath has been accomplished. He, verse 37, he, the Antichrist, shall regard neither the God of his fathers. Again, that's how we know that he's, he's an Israelite, okay, of Israelite descent. And you ask her, how can he, how can he be both? Well, any individual, most individuals are going to have, you know, more than one ethnicity, right? So, he, so the Antichrist can be descended from the tribe of Dan and at the same time have Arab blood and a Syrian blood. We know from Isaiah and Micah that the Antichrist. But anyway, so the God of his fathers nor the desire of women that's a reference to the true Christ, okay, the true Messiah, doesn't mean he's homosexual. Okay, we can talk about that if you want. Nor regard any God. He shall exalt himself above them all. Watch this. Verse 38, this is crazy. But in their, their place, he, the Antichrist, shall honor, not, not really worship, but pay homage to a God of fortresses. Have you ever wondered what that means? I mean, now I am. Okay, okay, because for years, I just bang in my head against the wall and Holy Spirit reveal this to me, what does this mean, right? So God of fortresses is actually Wally Chubat who first came up with this. And then if I remember correctly, Joel Richardson said this in his book to in 2005, when you look at the Hebrew here in Daniel, God of fortresses, the word fortresses is Moat scene. The Arab equivalent of that is Al Moats. Here are they sound similar. And Al Moats is actually one of the 99 names of Allah. That's crazy. Yeah, so, so, you know, 1100 years before Islam even existed, Daniel wrote this name on paper. He couldn't say Islam that word didn't exist. He couldn't say Muslim that word, but he says, he'll honor a God of fortresses. And that's name number 24 of the 99 names of Allah. And then look at this other hint. And a God which his fathers did not know, he shall honor with golden silver. So his father's again being Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Well, it doesn't say a God which his fathers didn't worship because that wouldn't be necessary to say because we know that those three, that's what they're famous for, they worship the one true God. He says, a God which his fathers didn't know, well, his fathers knew all the gods of the day, the new all the Canaanite gods and the Babylonian gods and the Egyptian gods. But this is a God, his fathers didn't know because this God, Allah would not exist for another 11, 1200 years after Daniel wrote this on paper. Isn't that crazy? Wow. That is so interesting. Yeah. So I mean, here's another way to look at this. If God through the prophet Daniel wanted to tell me in you, like give us a heads up, hey, this guy is going to be Muslim ostensibly, he's going to come from Islam. Tell me how better he could tell us than that. Yeah. Like, how much more clear could God make it, right? I had never really considered that. So does that mean that Islamic eschatology is in a sense accurate. Okay, so this was one of your many million questions that you sent to me, which I love, by the way, yeah, no, I love it. I, you're smart and I can, I can just tell how well studied you are just mere questions. That is the greatest question. I'm doing me favor and ask that again because I want your audience to hear this question again. Yeah. Does that mean that Islamic eschatology is accurate and true? And what would that really end up meaning, you know, what would that mean? Yes. And I'll tell you why I love that question because I am the weirdest teacher pastor author who has ever lived because my favorite kind of questions are the ones that my answer is I don't know. It's, it blows my mind. It blows my mind. So because it would mean that wouldn't it that if all these prophecies about the mockty are true, well, where do these prophecies come from? They came from Muhammad when he went into this cave, the cave of Hira, you know, outside of Mecca, Saudi Arabia, and this supernatural creature showed up and kind of kind of beat him into submission and forced him to, you know, read and then write. And so, Muhammad was so freaked out by this encounter with his supernatural being. I believe it 100%. It's not a fake religion. It's a very real religion. And it's a, it's a supernaturally founded religion Islam. It didn't just come out of his imagination. It comes from the supernatural. So, so Muhammad was convinced that this being was actually a gen where we get the word genie. Okay. And not like the cute blue genie in the story of Aladdin, right? You know, like a nice guy in Islam, Jinn are very, very evil spirits and Muhammad was so convinced that he made several attempts to commit suicide. That's how, that's how freaked out he was. Well, he went to his wife, Kadeja, somebody's going to correct me on that. I think it's Kadeja, and she took Muhammad to her cousin, who was at what's called an historian, Christian, long story. And they convinced him, her cousin in particular, convinced him. No, no, no, it wasn't, it wasn't a Jinn. Don't worry, you're fine. It was actually the archangel Gabriel, go back and listen to him and do whatever he says. So, so I believe Muhammad, I think Muhammad's first instinct was correct. It was an evil spirit. I don't think it was just any evil spirit. I think it was Satan himself. Okay. And everybody, it's me saying this not annually. So if you want to put another photo on my head, go forward, I got so many. But yeah, it was Satan himself who gave the Quran to, to Muhammad and Satan has inspired all this now. That actually, maybe like further complicate your question, because if that's true, then what am I saying that, that Satan can tell the future that he can process. I just don't know, I mean, I know that this story for God and Christ and us to ultimately try up over Satan, we have to pull the rug out from under him in terms of his, his legal title, which is God of this world. Isn't he called that, right? The Apostle Paul calls him the God of this world. He is the God of this world. Adam and Eve gave that to him, right? They handed that authority to him. God didn't intend for that, right? So how do we get it back? It has to be done 100% legally because God's nature is his law. His law is his nature, right? They're the same. So God is not going to like bend the rules, break the rules. It's why Jesus had to be crucified on the cross the way that he was. And we see how Satan plays into God's hand all the time. Like the stupidest thing Satan ever could have done is inspire all those people to crucify Jesus, right? Stupidest move. And he knew the prophecies, Satan knew the prophecies, right? But he did it anyways. So Satan plays into God's hand. This in time story has to play out like this. There has to be an anti-Christ figure who is backed by centuries old, very big, very aggressive, very violent army who wants to murder Jews and ultimately Christians too, right? It has to take place. How do we get millions and millions of Muslims to follow this one guy that's called the Makti? There has to be layer upon layer of prophecies that have to come true and be fulfilled. What does that mean? I'll give you one example, maybe maybe the only, you know, decent example from scripture in Revelation chapter 17, Revelation chapter 17, it's describing the seven nation coalition with 10 kings that back the anti-Christ, even to the point where they nuke Babylon at the end and they're doing complete evil. It literally says in Revelation chapter 17 that God himself puts it into these guy's hearts to follow the anti-Christ and give him all their power so that God's will can be accomplished. So we know it right from the book of Revelation that that does happen. We don't like it. We don't want to think about it. And ultimately it's all way above my pay grade. I just know that this guy, for every box he's checking on the Judeo-Christian side of eschatology, he's checking three times that many on the Muslim side. I share this with you and I'm going to put a link in our chat here. This is an ongoing slide that I showed in my class and it's all the current check boxes on Akhmad Al-Sharah. Interesting. And you can see what I have on there, 41. We officially have 42, that's a lot, right? That's a lot. We officially have 42 right now, meaning in my last Thursday class, we could go, I introduced checkbox number 42. My ministry partner, Sarah Tolly, she found it. She's amazing. I have to introduce you to one of these days. But she found number 42. But I've actually got 46 altogether. I just haven't publicized all of them yet. There's a reason for that, right? But so look at that. Just look at on the screen. He's checking every single box. And this is not my like 40, I'll just say 41 because that's what you're seeing. These are not my 41 favorite check boxes. Like there's actually like 60 that he should be checking at this point in his career. But you know, there's these four. No, these are, this is 100% of all the checkboxes that the anti-Christ slash money would be checking at this point in his career. He hasn't signed the seven year piece treaty yet. That's coming though. He's he's talking with Israel and secret channels behind the scenes about signing the Abraham Accords. And Netanyahu wants it more than he does. Netanyahu is said right to Jared Kushner. This is all document. This is Israeli press. Talk about the times of Israel, the Jerusalem post. I mean, these guys are legit. And they've documented this Benjamin Netanyahu's telling Kushner, hey, see if you can get Al Sharat to join the Abraham Accords. And Al Sharat was like, yeah, you know, think of this is going to happen. And we it's going to happen. Right. But that hasn't happened yet. But to get up to that point, he's got to have, you know, seized the throne in Damascus. And and seize the richest parts of the territory. And on the Machia side, he's got to be Arab and he's got to be born in Saudi Arabia. And there has to have been this, this crazy double, double eclipse in the Ramadan that preceded him showing up on the scene. Oh, yeah, you mentioned in your book. Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of things in here. I would recommend everyone going and getting this book and reading it and digging into his book along with scriptures. I don't want to cut you off, but I do want to ask this question because this is one that I'm just going to kick myself if I don't ask you before I know I want to respect your time on this. But Daniel 926 says, the people of the Prince, who is to come, love it. I'll destroy the city and the sanctuary. Now, the Prince, who is to come, I've always assumed is the anti Christ and the, it says the people of the Prince who is to come. So those that destroyed the temple were under Rome at that time. So like I'm trying to connect how Syrian guy matches the Daniel 926 person. No, I love this. This is one of your most important questions, if not your most important question. So really appreciate you asking it because you and I were both raised to understand that that person that the Prince of the people who was to come and he confirms the covenant with many for one week. That's the anti Christ. And in fact, up behind me here, you could see part part one of my book series, these final days, part one. And then here's these final days, part two. And then finally my current book that I published on July 1st, about about seven weeks ago, these final days, part three in the beginning of these final days, part three, not sure if you caught this part. But I actually did this little retraction because in these two books, I actually wrote that just what you just said that the that the Prince of the people is the one that's the anti Christ, the one who confirms the covenant. But the time I got, you know, to part three, my eyes have been open a little bit more, had a little bit better understanding. It's two completely different people. I've got to read it to be able to say this clearly for for the audience here. So this is this is the 70 weeks prophecy. It's it's 483 years that started the day it started was Nissan one in the year 445 BC. This is one that the decree went out to to rebuild the wall and the street, the Tyrobian Valley street. And that's that's the story of the book of neomyel, right. So so we know when this started, but but according to this prophecy given to Daniel by the archangel Gabriel, the real one, not the one that showed up for Muhammad, right. And and what it says is that it'll be actually 69 weeks because there's seven weeks and then seven weeks right and then 62 that 69 weeks. So at the end of this initial 483 year period, which ended 2000 years ago during the ministry of Christ, right. It says after the 69 weeks again, just the way it words it, Messiah shall be cut off. That means Jesus was killed, but not for himself because he was killed for us, right. And the people of the prince, who is to come, future tents, okay. She'll destroy the city, jurors some in the sanctuary of the temple, the individual with a flood, which means this huge mass of people invasion, right. So so you're 100% right that the people of the prince, that's the Roman Empire, that's literally what it's referring to. And remember that that how prophecy works is that God does everything he can to give us enough information that you and I can like decipher this as things, you know, unfold, right. Tell the end of the war desolations are determined. And this war has been going on, by the way, for 2000 years. And then it says then he who's he, the prince, obviously, right. She'll confirm or ratify a covenant, a treaty with many for one week, that's, that's a week of years, a seven year period, right. But in the middle of the week, he, that's the same guy that's the same he, the prince of the covenant, right. The guy who makes the covenant, the prince of the covenant. In the middle of the week, halfway through the seven years, she'll bring an end to sacrifice and offering. And by the way, the verb here, it's a very passive verb in Hebrew. It doesn't mean that he like abolishes it and outlaws it. And you know, it's, it's that he allows it to happen through carelessness is really what the, what the Hebrew. Verbage, you know, indicates there. Now watch this. And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate the way this is phrased even in the Hebrew. And you can, you can AI this if you want. And you'll see, okay. These are two separate people. The prince who confirms the covenant is not the same person as the one who. makes Desolate, even until the consummation, which is a term in part on the Desolate. So Abomination of Desolation, this is obviously the Antichrist, and this is the first mention in this verse of the Antichrist, "Shall be one," so it's almost like, "and then on the Wing of Abomination shall be one who makes Desolate." And let me prove it once and for all, because if it sounds like I'm tap dancing, watch this. We drop down to Daniel chapter 11, which is our main narrative story in the Bible about the Antichrist. And this is the first introduction of the Antichrist in Daniel 11. And in his place, it's talking about Antichist V. Uptor, I won't get into all that, "Shall arise a vile person." This is the Antichrist to whom they will not give the honor of royalty. That matches Al-Shirah, by the way, came out of nowhere, his mother was a school teacher, his father is like an oil executive, but that he shall come in peaceably. And by the way, when Al-Shirah and HTS walked into Damascus on December 8, 2024, not a shot that was fired, check, it's crazy. And sees the kingdom by intrigue, there were about 300 different factions, and Al-Shirah, this is what all the biographers write, very cleverly and by intrigue, maneuvered his way into the presidential palace in Damascus, check, okay? But watch this, with the force of flood, now this will happen later. They shall, future tents, be swept away from before him, and this is talking about the Jews, the people of Israel, swept away means, you know, killed or shoved out or heavily devastated whatever, and be broken, right? Watch this. And also the Prince of the Covenant, see it? Interesting. 100% two different people. So how can the Antichrist sweep away the Prince of the Covenant if he is the Prince of the Covenant? It's two different people. So with that, that also means that the Antichrist is not the one that stops the sacrifices. He is the one who stops it, he's the one that brings, and he's the one who abolishes the sacrifices. He outlaws Judaism, okay? Okay, because from what, how you were reading it, the Prince who is to come, shall destroy the city in the sanctuary. Where are we? The Prince did it. Yeah, then he, the Prince shall confirm a covenant, but in the middle of the week, he, the Prince shall bring an entrance sacrifice, the Prince, so that's not the Antichrist. This is not the Antichrist, and this, and again, the verb here in Hebrew, it, it, it's not an active verb, it's very passive, and it means that, that this Prince who confirms this covenant through, through carelessness, look it up, BibleHub.com, through carelessness, sloppiness, passivity, allows an end to sacrifice and offering. He's not the one who actually does it though. He allows it to happen because he's sloppy, he gets blindsided. It is the Antichrist who actually does this, but, but here on this first, the Archangel of Hebrew is blaming the Prince. He's saying, look, this guy was stupid and careless, and he fell for it, and he allowed an end to sacrifice and offering. Now, this actual act, which takes place very violently, this is depicted later in Daniel chapter 11, and there it's describing the Antichrist actually, actually doing this. But in this first, it's just Gabriel saying, look, this guy, and let me, let me point out something else too. So we do know that the one who confirms the covenant is in some spiritual sense or whatever, a member of the Roman Empire. So where is the Roman Empire today? Such a tricky question. Trick question. Well, a lot of us, Christians or Protestants, I better say, Evangelicals in particular, would love to say it's the Vatican, it's the Pope, because the Catholic Church, and that's the Roman Empire. No, because in the entire book of Daniel, Daniel's where we just get just a full picture starting in Daniel chapter 2, all the way to Daniel chapter 12 of this principle of global hegemony, okay? So when it's, when it's talking about the Roman Empire, which it is in those verses, it's talking about not just a nation, but the hegemon over the entire planet. There's always, always been ever since the Tower of Babel, okay? One nation that rules over the entire world system. One nation that is the most powerful, rich, most influential. Who is that today? It's not the Catholic Church. That nation on earth could be described as the most powerful nation on earth, richest. I'd like to say America, but. What you'd like to say America, because you're smart, and you're 100% correct. In fact, America, that was my major in college, was international relations, and global hegemony, and all that. And America actually is the richest, most powerful, most influential, hegemon that's ever existed in human history. So you know, you hear the pundits say, well, China, they're getting stronger, they're going to take. It's nonsense. It's nonsense. You got to look at the raw data. China doesn't even come close, the EU doesn't even come close, Russia doesn't remotely come close. It's 100% the United States, okay? So what I'm reading in those verses, if we're really in the last days, and if this guy's who we think he is, then what I'm reading is that some agent of the United States, and it calls him a prince, so what's a prince? The son of the king. Yes, or in modern vernacular, maybe it could be the son or even son-in-law of a president, right? So who's the son-in-law of the president that is so interesting to the story? Interesting. Jerra Kushner, Jerra Kushner, and his Jerra Kushner already put together this amazing treaty structure, because remember it says, confirms a covenant with many, and then later on it says that the Antichrist signs onto this covenant with many that already exist, right? So who's the covenant between Israel and many other nations, right? Is there any body of treaties that Jerra Kushner has spent his entire political career since Trump's first term, since 2017, formulating and building and promoting and pushing? How about the Abraham Accords? Yeah. Abraham Accords. They're in place. They've been in place since 2020, September 15th of 2020. So and what's the whole context of the Abraham Accords is a body of treaties between Israel and its Muslim neighbors to bring about peace in the Middle East, right? So it all fits. It's all falling into place. I hope I've answered clearly, I mean, you know, if nothing else, you're and your team, you guys are important members of this effort to get the real truth out there about the end times. You know, you guys teach post-tribulation rapture that's central to the whole story. We have to understand that. But if nothing else, I hope you're seeing that, yeah, the Antichrist when he comes, he's not Roman, he's not a white guy, he's not from Europe, he 100% comes from the Middle East. I love talking about these things because it encourages us to dig back into the Scriptures. Yes. So, you know, I'm like, I'm going to look into Daniel again. I'm going to look into the tribe of Dan. I'm going to look into the Lost Tribes. I know we didn't mention those here, but it was in your book and also pay attention to Syria. Like, that is the whole point of why we have these episodes is for each person to dig into Scriptures for themselves and dig deeper into the word. So, I love that. I'll ask one more question and we can finish. Okay. If the Antichrist is already alive, somewhere on this Earth today, which we know, we've named one. I think he is. Yes. What should that change about the way I follow Jesus tomorrow morning? I absolutely love that question, so when I first read that because you sent that to me earlier this week, I paused and I thought, well, you know, I'm not quite sure I'd answer it. And then the Holy Spirit is like, hey, what did you just spend the last six months teaching about in your class? So, you know, I teach about the in times. That's all I teach about, right? But I literally spent the last six months in my Thursday night class. I do a livestream class. Six months I've been teaching my main core group about the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. And it's so important. And, you know, if anyone's interested in that teaching, go to thesefinaldays.org. You can click over to our YouTube channel or just go straight there. That's youtube.com/thesefinaldays and just start looking at my teachings that go back to, I think January this year. I mean, we went very, very deep, but this is my only advice for all believers watching this is just a continually filled with the Holy Spirit, okay? And we know, you know, how we get the Holy Spirit, you know, Jesus said, you being, you know, earthly, wicked fathers, if your kid asks you for his piece of bread, you give him a stone, if they ask you for a fish, do you give him a serpent? How much more will our father and heaven give the Holy Spirit to him or her who asks? So we get the Holy Spirit by asking, but then understanding that, you know, when we get filled with the Holy Spirit and we get born again, God writes His law in our hearts and the degree to which we walk in that righteousness, okay? Don't need to let her, let her the law, but just walk in that righteousness that, that keeps her lamp's full and keeps her anointing strong. Every day I pray that, and Lee, father God, fill me with the Holy Spirit to full, fill my lamp to full and anoint me to be perfect in all things. And that's literally our one and only defense against the times that we're in now and the times that are soon coming. And it says He's going to guide us in all truth. So yes, John chapter 16, more than anything else, you know, because as much as you and I know about the end times, we have no clue what's coming. I mean, I mean, you know, we know kind of nuts and bolts of what to watch for, but when all this unfolds, it's going to be nuts. I mean, we can't even imagine how crazy this world is going to get. We just have to stay filled with the Holy Spirit. Yes. Agreed. Totally agree with the Lord. He will guide us in all of that. Thank you so much, Ryan, for sharing your insights with us. I know you've mentioned your website on there. but where can we, is that like the central place where we can find you, find your books. Can you just give us all of those? Yes. Yeah, thank you. So the mystery is called these final days of ministry. So you go to these finaldays.org and there you'll find all my research trips back the last 15 years, whatever, you know, lots of videos, things, a bunch of teaching videos, my book series, so you can, you'll be able to link over to Amazon to get part three or part one and part two if you want those two. And then it, you know, we've got our class schedule on there. My ministry partner and I get her name is Sarah, Sarah Tolly. We do a weekly TikTok about an hour and a half long every Friday. I love to talk. My last name is Speakman, so I loved it, you know, but yeah, lots of resources, but yeah, my books are doing very well. They're all three on the best cell or list again for Amazon. Amazing. Congratulations. Thank you. Yeah, the first two were, you know, when I published them years ago, and now the part three is out there all, you know, bumping around them in the top, you know, numbers. But yeah, appreciate you have me on. Yeah, yeah. So we really went through part three, but I would highly recommend getting, I will be getting the part one and part two as well, because I'm sure it feels in a lot of the gaps in there as well. But that is all for this episode of Faith and friction. Y'all, thank you for watching this. I really hope it encourages you all to dig into scripture for yourself and let the Holy Spirit guide you. So until next time, guys, God bless. Thank you. Hey, it's Ryan Reynolds here for Mint Mobile. So I thought it would be fun if we made $15 bills, but it turns out that's very illegal. Up from payment of $45 for three months, $90 for six months or $180 for 12 month plan required, $15 per month equivalent to taxes and B's extra. Initial plan term only greater than 50 gigabytes me slow when network is busy. See terms. One of you can see what's happening inside your body. 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