Is The Antichrist Already Climbing the Ranks? | Philip Anthony Mitchell (EP 190)

- Yeah, I was gonna be part of the end time prophecy. I've seen a video me preaching somebody's church. I've never been to it. I've seen a video me on TikTok standing behind somebody's pool pit preaching. I never even met this man. - Things are getting so real right now. You can't even tell the difference. - God is trying to use any living, non-compromising, not afraid of all the voices to speak the truth because when God speaks, He echoes. I'm using every available voice to sound in our law. I am coming and I'm coming very soon. On the age of 24, I attempted suicide once which was unsuccessful by the grace of God when Jesus found me and I bathed over a toilet seat. He says the church in America, it is dying. It's losing its fire. You want to go back to your nation and do something about it. I fall down on my hands and my knees and a man died there, bro. I left a man in Israel. I came back a different man. - What's going on guys, welcome back to another episode of the Bricecropper podcast. I'm Brice and today I am excited to sit down. I have a conversation with this guest. We got Pastor Philip Anthony Mitchell with us this morning. - What's up, Brice? - Come on man. He cracked it a little grand. I like it, come on. - I appreciate you having me on the podcast. - I gotta tell you something, I don't know if you know this, but I wanted to honor you publicly because I think you have a deep heart for people. And I think social media doesn't do justice on what people's lives look like behind closed doors. So last year I was preaching at Vucca and I left the night, one we did like a live podcast in a room, a couple of hard people and I'm leaving. It's 11.30 at night. I see a dude in the hoodie, circle in the venue, praying. It was you, late at night, 11.30 praying. And I remember waking up the next morning and seeing on your story, you crying out to the Lord on behalf of the people in Miami and in my generation, early morning in the hotel room and I've like, and I observed from afar and when the Lord came in that room, was a response to the heart of your prayers. And so I just want you to know, I gleaned from that. I respect it. I have reaped the benefits of the fervent prayer of the righteous from the prayers that you've cried for my generation. So I wanted to publicly honor you and say thank you. I've seen that with my own eyes and people on social media didn't see me. I appreciate that, man. I want to publicly honor you too. We was talking about this off camera, but I think it's worth noting that I appreciate what you're doing for the culture and for the body of Christ. I think there's an entire generation out there. Trust you, believe in you, believe in your ministry. You have a great impact on this entire generation. And I want to encourage you in what you're doing. That's your voice matters right now. Your voice matters in the culture. It matters to the church matters in this hour. And so I commend you for what you're doing for being so young, but standing on business and being an uncompromising voice in the culture, I think, because we live in a generation where compromise is rampant voices like yours matter. So I commend you for what you're doing too, bro. Thank you for saying that that means a lot. I want to get briefly into your story, like what it would have looked like following Jesus. But a lot of people don't know. You've been a pastor of that church for a while, 28, 19. You've been a pastor over there for a while. You've been a pastor for 13 years. And a lot of people know that. A lot of people think that you came out of the woodworks, like, oh, look, who's this pastor? He's being bold. But that boldness, and correct me if I'm wrong, and came from after a visit, you went to the Holy Land and you experienced something over there. But a lot of people haven't seen your faithfulness for the decade before prior that you were faithfully pouring into the city of Atlanta. So before you even became a pastor, what was life like growing up, how did you become a Christian? Man, this is widely known, but I was raising Queens, New York, born a Christian parents. It was a very urban environment. That environment had a lot of influence on my life. And so most of my days were spent in the street. And that's not any fault of my parents. They did the absolute best they can do. But I was just drawn to the community outside of my home. So I pretty much lived a very dark life. I probably went out into the street maybe around age 12. And I lived a dark life until I had to leave New York because the legal troppo around age 18 ended up in North Carolina, continued that dark path for another decade. And it was a season in my life where I was very hopeless, very empty around the age of 24, attempted suicide once, which was unsuccessful by the grace of God. And he sent someone to my apartment that night that kind of presence talked me off a ledge. And it was in that season when I was suicidal, and hopeful when Jesus found me in a bathroom over a toilet seat and brought me into the kingdom personally for himself. And so that's how I got saved. Wow. Man, what was that experience like when Jesus was encountering like for you, what did that look like? Man, for me, and this story is widely known. I was my girlfriend at the time who became my wife, got into a car accident. We was living together. So obviously we was doing everything wrong. We wasn't saved. And she came back to the apartment. And she put on gospel music. And it was the first time in my life I ever heard gospel music. And she had her hands raised. And she was thanking God for her life. And I was staring at her walk back and forth. And I thought to myself, whatever that is, I want that. It seemed like joy. It seemed like peace. It seemed like all the things I did not have. So when I crawled into that bathroom, I started yelling at God. It did not know God existed. So my parents pray, so my parents serve God. But I did not understand his existence. And so when God met me in that bathroom that day, it was like I had tears of sorrow that dried up. I knew that something had transpired in my heart. I think for the first time, I felt peace. And that night I tried to lay with my girlfriend. And now for the first time, I felt conviction for sin. So I knew something had transpired in my heart. And then I began to read the scriptures just very, very aggressively. I started out in Proverbs. Then I read Daniel. Then I read Revelation. I don't know why I went in that order. But my walk with the Lord has started out just very, very serious. I was so broken when he found me. And I was in so much darkness. Everything had been wanted to just pursue him. Anything I do, I do all the way. I don't do it halfway at all. So when the Lord saved me, I was just radically set on fire for the Lord. It doesn't mean I made mistakes in beginning things that I regret. But I went after Jesus with my whole heart from the very beginning. All right, quick question. Have you ever actually thought about who you're supporting with the money you already spend every month, like your phone bill? You're paying it anyways, but most people have no idea where that money is going or what it's funny. That's why I want to tell you about Patriot mobile. So the only Christian conservative wireless provider in America, they take a portion of your phone bill and put it toward faith, family, and spreading the gospel. 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Use code Bryce to get your first month free and 15% off for life. So do you think that's where kind of your fire for this urgency of the gospel kind of birth? Because I mean, from the beginning of your walk with Jesus, it's like, okay, here's some practical wisdom. And then here's what's going to go down one day. Yep. Do you think that's where that all birthed? I do. I do think that played a big role in my ministry and in my life, you know. That was also around the time Mel Gibson had put out the passion of the Christ. Yeah. Gosh, that movie's great. Right. And so that was the first movie I saw post salvation. All right. So that movie had just come out. My wife and I went to go see that movie and I remember walking out of that movie in tears. I didn't talk for a week. All right. I didn't talk to what she was my girlfriend at the time. I didn't talk to Lena for a week. I didn't talk to anybody. I was so overwhelmed by that movie. So I had just seen the passion of the Christ at the same time. I'm reading through the book of Revelation. I'm reading Daniel. So that kind of marked me from the very beginning. So for me, and I would look back on this and think that maybe it was God's providence that led me to those particular books. So from the very beginning, I always had my mind fixed on the end. Yeah. It was always something to me that was thinking about the end, thinking about eternity, thinking about the judgments at the end, thinking about the rewards for believes at the end. So that was always in the back of my mind from the very beginning. And I think God wanted it to be that way, at least for me, right? And so also to seeing the passion of the Christ, those graphic images of the final hours of the life of Jesus really marked me, right? And so the cross had a great weight from me from the very beginning. Wow. in the very beginning, the cross was meaningful to me, although I did not fully understand. understand the depth of the holiness of Christ and the full ramifications the way they don't across until I came back from Israel but from the very beginning I was marked by what happened on the cross and so I think it had a deep effect on me and I would say that that was really my foundation from the very beginning right the cross the end times thinking about eternity those words that Jesus sent to those seven ancient churches essentially he sent seven copies of the book of Revelation of seven churches and that was in my heart from very beginning so I do think it was type of a a guide and light of sorts in conjunction with in Proverbs and understand the importance of God's wisdom above man made wisdom although that did not save me from making mistakes those things were in me from the beginning and I think the Holy Spirit would water that over time oh my goodness I literally two nights ago I watched Passion of the Christ again and so when you're saying that I'm here because it's fresh on my mind you know like you you could watch a movie from while I love that movie but then you watch it again and you catch some extra details and I'm just thinking about when he's getting flagged with the cat of nine tales right now I can't even imagine watching that fresh in the surrender to Jesus and then reading the book of Revelation where you know that always blows my mind when John's like I look to heaven and there's the the lamb that was slain yes on the throne yes oh my gosh I mean what was that like did did you kind of put those two pieces together yeah I think for me the impact I had on me is that around that time I was also introduced to the ministry of Billy Graham my mother not attended his very last crusade Billy Graham's final crusade was held in Queens New York and so around this time I also had a chance to go as last crusade was I think was around 2005 so when you put all these things together I had just seen the passion of the Christ I had just finished reading the book of Revelation I have read Daniel I'm reading through Proverbs and at the same time my mother not would go see Billy Graham's last crusade and so from the very beginning there was not only a deep deep deep impact that is happening my heart is related to the cross but then there is a desire to let as many people as possible know about what Jesus is done on the cross and so I have this desire to dream I want to be an evangelist I want to be like a black Billy Graham right and I would ask God in my prayer time could you ever use a black man like at the level use a Billy Graham to take the gospel to the world so that was my dream in the beginning to be an evangelist I was so marked by the movie and so marked by revelation that everything in me just wanted to tell as many people about Christ as possible and my shyness in the beginning I remember I made these little cards they were like business cards I made people don't really use them as much today and at least I had generation I just tap phones and share contacts but I made this little card on one side it had from Romans I'd explanation of like Romans 3 23 6 23 Romans 10 what we used to call the Romans was on one side and then a prayer of salvation on the other side and I was shy in the beginning I was sharing my faith so I would go through places and I would just toss that card at people I would go through the drive through McDonald's and toss the card through the drive through the end up you know I'd be at a restaurant I would always slip it in the thing when I met a restaurant so everywhere I was going I was leaving those cards and that was my my first attempt at sharing the gospel when I got a little bolder I would go into parks parks I was standing on park benches and I would just preach the gospel to anybody that would listen why all right I would I would walk the street and I would preach the gospel anybody that walked by right long before there was a platform a pool pet a camera I was preaching the gospel I was I was just so burned by what was going to happen in the end in conjunction with what I saw Jesus suffer on the cross and reading those things my heart was just I need to tell as many people about Christ as possible now I don't think that ever left me although God called me to the past story grudgingly I didn't want to be a pastor so I don't think I've left me even now as a local pastor and my heart I am a evangelist I am most excited when I'm talking about the cross I'm most excited when I'm glorifying what Christ done for us on the cross right so I think that evangelist is in that right although God called me to do something I did not want to do I pastor out of obedience not out of glory but that's what that was like for me there was there was a burning from the very beginning to tell as many people as possible about Christ yeah I've heard so many pastor I've verbally heard a pastor before say hey I'm glad you're an evangelist and I'm a pastor and your job is to preach the gospel and I was like mine I get as a responsibility of every believer because I'm not the only do that's what we preach the gospel right and I mean it's evident like in the way that you in the way that you exit exhort the scriptures and break them down in the exegesis it's like wow there's a heart for the the cross I love Michael Kuliano so I just saw Cliff him the other day he said that you know we've grown so mundane it's just saying the cross and the gospel and we've like that shouldn't move us as people and that rocked me to the core because I mean we're in America we can just kind of walk around and be like oh I'm a Christian and some people will be like oh whatever some people are like yeah me too and some people aren't it's very fewer living it out so I think that's extremely compelling you know something that I want you to talk about is all that stuff that you're describing no one no one thinks that that's what happens I think people look at social media and they look at outward you know impact and outward eyeballs and they say oh yeah that just came out of nowhere like I said people thought you came out of nowhere you've been passed around for over a decade in Atlanta yes but at the same time if people knew what you went through and people knew what you go through now they wouldn't want half of what they think that they want yeah you know I don't believe that there is any real overnight successes as we would call it I spent 10 years on the backside of a mountain before anybody knew my name right and I think even know my name that's not even that important right one of the things I have learned Bryce in these last three years where everything God has done with 2019 I've had a a difference of opinion about the whole sect of church that just focuses on growth and platforms and all these things everything has happened 2019 has been sovereign right my ex-person in the room you know I mean we we we talk about this and staff mean we're not smart enough to manufacture any of this Bryce even what's happened with your ministry I mean you you two are impacting the whole world right are you not smart enough to have really manufactured that for ourselves you know are we are we really that creative right for whatever reason God's hand is on your life whatever reason God is chosen to show you favor right whatever reason God is chosen to use Bryce in this generation to be a voice to this nation to the globe to the entire generation right even considering your past you know being far away from God God getting a hold of you at a time when you were suicidal just like I was and then we say God just breathe on your ministry I mean could you have really manufactured all of that no you know could have really manufactured all of this no and so I think that there is a man-made pride in which we try to take credit for some of the things that God has done instead of deflecting that glory to say no God has done all of this so then I think about some of this stuff I think you know any fool would have gifted a microphone could probably gather a crowd to some degree this is different than when God breathes on something and this was manufactured by the Holy Spirit we eclipse God's glory when we try to take credit for that right and so when I think about everything happening right now I say to I said you know the most important thing Bryce is for us to be faithful everybody just needs to be faithful then to be faithful to Jesus in every sphere of influence every day of their life and whatever he has called them to do right there is a there is a pastor right now I'm Bryce in West Virginia somewhere right he lives in a town with 2,000 people and he has 25 people in his church or his 50 people and he loves the Lord he loves his wife and his kids and he's faithful and he has character and integrity and he has a prayer life and all the things I mean does 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Right, and so there is the way I feel even right now about where I am, I'm just trying to be faithful, right, to what God has called me to do. There was nothing happening right now with 2019, and when we changed the name, I asked God for, right, everything I'm experiencing right now and I asked God for. These are things that I dreamt about for the first ten years of my pastoral ministry, but I dreamt about them with a lot of vanity in my heart, right, it was, I was faithful to the Word, I was faithful to my church, but that vanity was in my heart, that longing to be known, that longing for a big platform, that longing for a big church to make me feel. I know all of that was really trying to stroke my insecurities, but it was vanity, and it was there and it was buried, and over time God had to work out out of my heart, beginning with that trip to Israel in December 2018, God had to work out out of my heart, right, so when people see me now like no, no, I didn't just come out of nowhere, and then my platform means nothing if I'm not faithful, no, I've been, I've been faithful to Jesus for over two decades, you know, I've been faithful to the Lord for over two decades, I've been grinding for over two decades, I've been in pastoral ministry for 13 years, right, ten of those years in the dark, you know, and I've tried to quit more times than I can count, been hurt more times than I can count, betrayed more times than I can count, have disappointed Jesus more time than I can count, I am, I am, a man is just trying to hear in the end, well done, right, that is, that's what I'm trying to do, and if God has breathed on 2019, oh, my life is to make him know, right, is to make the cross known, right, and it's not for personal, self anger and dies, but any of those things, like I'll staff, you know, two of them in the room right now, we say all the time, Jesus is building and we're stewarding, that's what we are, I love that, right, I'm not an owner of 2019, right, I'm really just a steward, you are a steward, all the steward, right, because the Lord has told us we're going to give an account, right, for what we're doing right now, so I approach ministry like now, it's a steward, all of this man is for God's glory, right, it's not for mine, yeah, yeah, so what exactly happened in the Holy Land for you, I hear that all the time, so many people like they go to the Holy Land and just does something to him, but for you, what specifically happened? In that season, our ministry was maybe about eight years old, and I think I was passing on empty, right, I spent a lot of time trying to be creative, you know, if I come up with a dope series, I could get more butts and seats, you know, if I had a dope graphic, I could get more butts and seats, and it was starting to become that, how creative can I be, and I had this moment when I realized I'm faithful in my proclamation, but I'm really doing this, and I'm empty on and I have no clear sense of identity, no clear sense of direction, so I went to Israel for 10 days, I was fast and impregnated, and I said, God, I really need you to meet me here, I need clarity, I need a sense of direction, I need a sense of identity, like who am I, I feel like my voice sounds like an amalgamation of men that I admire, I want my own voice, I want to know what am I supposed to be doing, right, and so I'm there for 10 days, I'm fast and praying those 10 days, I hear nothing from God, right, I travel the whole nation from the north and the golden heights all the way to Jerusalem and the south part of the city, it is the last day of my tour, I have not heard from God, it is December 8th, so it is the day after my birthday, right, it is December 8th, and it is raining, it is cold, and I'm almost upset, like God, I'm about to leave in a few hours, we're about to hop back on his bus to head back to Tel Aviv, I have not heard from you, we're going to the garden tomb, we come out to tomb and I hear singing in a language I did not understand, but I can feel the presence of God, right, and off to my side, I see this group of people, maybe about 30 or 40 of them, they look nothing like me, but I don't care, so I slip into that gathering anyway, and I'm just in the back, and I'm the only black dude in the back, right, it's very obvious, I don't belong, right, and I can feel God's presence, and I lift up my hands, I'm worshiping God, my wife creeps in, and then I do it for my bus creeps in, and then this other sister for my bus creeps in, and this was so providential, the guy motions to me to come to the front, I walk to the front, my wife goes, the guy goes, the young lady goes, and he starts speaking to me in a language, I did not know, it was Portuguese, by God's divine provenance, the gentleman who's with me spoke Portuguese, he was from Brazil, so he starts interpreting what this guy said, my wife is watching, she's crying, and then the woman who's snuck in with me, she's recording the whole thing, so I have the whole thing, I posted this on my Instagram many years ago, he says to me in his native language, he says to me, he says, I've been to your nation, and I've seen the church in America, it is dying, it is losing its fire, it is dark, and God says to you, young man, do you want to go back to your nation and do something, I bought it, right, I crowd to this man, I say yes, I fall down on my hands and my knees, and then that company of believers, they were from Brazil, I learned, they all laid hands on me, they began to pray for me, my wife is weeping, the other young woman is recording the whole thing, and as he's praying for me, he's charging me, go back to your country, cry aloud, spare not, set the bride of Christ on fire, right, so I take that whole encounter, I tattoo the whole thing to my arm, this whole sleeve I have is that story, right, from the date, the place, the word that I got everything, so I tattooed that whole thing to my arm, and the text that I got flying back from Tel Aviv was Isaiah 6, so I put that on the inside of my arm, you know, some people are probably going to crucify you and I, because you got to sleep, I got to sleep, and they're going to say, we're ungodly, but I'm flying back from Tel Aviv, and the thing that marked me on that trip was not only that encounter at the garden tomb, but when I was in Jerusalem, I saw a reverend for God, I'd never seen inside the United States, amongst the Christians and the Jews, right, for them faith was not chained to a day at a week, it encompasses every part of their life, right, and so I saw a respect for God, and a respect for His Word, and a reverence for the kingdom I had never seen in the United States, I met a scribe on the top of Mount Masada, who was sitting in a cave, and he was copying the Old Testament by hand with ink, he was like in Deuteronomy, and he did that eight hours a day, five days a week, and he said to me, if I make one mistake, I have to start the whole thing over, that's how much respect he had for the Word of God, and I had never seen anybody with that level of respect for the Word of God, so I'm flying back from Tel Aviv, and I am convicted, I said, man, I've seen a level of respect, and honor, and reverence for God, I had never seen in the United States, there I saw God as, as holy, for the very first time, like, supremely holy, and I feel like the encounter that Isaiah had, he was around your age, Bryce, when Isaiah had that encounter, he was around 20 years of age, because you're 21, you're 22, so when you read Isaiah 6, when Isaiah sees the pre-incarnate Jesus high and exalted, he sees him in his full beauty, and he recognizes his supreme holiness, and against the backdrop of seeing God for who he really is, he saw himself for who he really is, sinful, he saw his nation for what it really was, sinful, and Isaiah's around 20 when he has that encounter, he's around your age, he's around 20 years of age, but he's a young man when he has that encounter, that's what happened for me in Israel, I had an Isaiah 6 encounter, and so I'm flying back from Tel Aviv, I'm reading to Isaiah 6, and I am conflicted in my soul, once you have been exposed, you cannot be unexposed, you can try to hide it, you could try to suppress it, but it's in there, I had seen God for all of his holiness, I had been marked by that charge that I was given to go back and set the country on fire to awaken the bride is what I was told to do, I had been marked by the holiness I saw in the reverence for the Scriptures, and I could not be unmarked, right, and so I knew on that 14 hours, 17 hours flight coming back from Tel Aviv, I would never be the same, and I remember when I got home, I took four sonnays off from preaching because I said to myself, I can't go back in the poop at the way that I left, I took four sonnays off, I put up elders to preach, and I wrestle with God for 30 days, and during that 30 days God told me just preach about my holiness, and so the very first series I did coming back from Israel was a series through Isaiah 6 on the holiness of God, some people got mad, some people left the church, some people thought I was too radical, they thought I was too on fire, they thought I was too aggressive to brush, I never look back, right, December 2018, I made a decision, I will spend the rest of my life crying aloud, sparing not about the holiness of God, the purity of God, reverence for his scriptures, winning souls, multiplying disciples, living for eternity, no matter what it cost me. I made a vow to God that I would do that because even if people across the camera, they don't understand. They will make videos about me until they blew in the face. They will pay their bills on slender, the sin of slender, using my name for propaganda. They will do that until they blow in their face. None of this is going to stop what God has called me to do. Because at the end of the day, I'm not going to give an account to them. I'm going to give an account to the one that told me, cry aloud and spend on, set the bride on fire, awaken the church in America. That is my charge. And I'm going to do those three things until he comes to get me, or they come and get me, whichever one happens first. That is my responsibility. I'm not going to back away from that. So that is really all what happened to me. I think that's like tattooed to my heart. I tattooed that to my arm. And I just, I'm a man died there, bro. Wow. Right. Like the old Philip Anthony Mitchell died there. Right. I left a man in his role. Would you say that that? Because you had been faithful to the Lord. I know exactly what you mean when you said, Oh, I was preaching on empty. Like I've been there before. I understand. Because you get it. You get in this little like place sometimes where you think, at least for me, this was about like six months ago where I got real with myself. And I'm like, dang, I'm trying to conjure up some sort of words because I think that what I say is going to, and there's so much pressure on like what I've got to do rather than just being like faithful to reading the scriptures and got it. What do you have to say? But, but would you say when you say the old Philip died there, but you were already fallen Jesus. So what, so was that just like a moment in your sanctification journey? I mean, how would you, do you give it a sand? Yeah. I think if you and I would be honest, bro, I think there's a lot of believers right now who are doing Christianity full of compromise on the inside. Right. Christ is Sunday morning. Christ is a necklace. You know, Christ is their youth group, but they're not burning on the inside. Right. You know, and there's a lot of ministry right now happening disconnected from Christ. I mean, you have people singing on platforms. Don't have a real relationship with the Lord. You have people preaching that don't have a real relationship with the Lord. And because, and you know this, you know what I'm about to say. According to what Paul wrote to the church in Rome, you know, gifts coming out repentance. People can use their gifts to do whatever they want price. You're gifted. Right. Let's, let's be honest. You're gifted communicator. Right. If you could walk away from God on the inside and still go and move a room, you got people can sing. They could hold a note. They could be living foul in the dark and still get up there and move a room. That don't mean what I know you, I'm just talking about with sheer gifting. Right. You got people who got administrative gifts, they can be administrative, can move an organization, move a room, move a room and still not be fully sold out to Jesus on the inside. Because our gifts, so God can go take away the gift. You can use it any way that you want. Right. And so I, I think it is very possible to do Christianity and do ministry and be far away from God on the inside. Right. And there's two types of far away. There's a distance that is, that is born of just broken ness and pain and shame in which the Lord is like worn us back softly. But then there's a different type of distance that's born of iniquity. Where you're distant from God because you love sin and you love iniquity and you enjoy that more than holiness. So your distance from God is straight out of rebellion and disobedience. That's a different kind of distance. Right. Where the Lord is dealing with you. So, so I think it's possible to do that. So for me, before that encounter I had, I think I was just preaching on empty of a revelation of the furious holiness of Jesus and a seriousness about who he is, what he has called us to do in the account we're going to give in the end. I was faithful, but I don't think I was really serious at my core and I think that's what transformed me. Does that make sense? I would also, too, I also used to, the other thing, too, that happened to me and you and I was talking about this off camera is that I, I saw material things as the reward. You know what I mean? It's like a platform, a big follow in our social media, a certain economic status. I saw those things. That's the reward. You know, I could try to hide it if I want to, but those things were their price. And I think my encounter and Israel kind of burned that out of me. Right. So like I was saying to you and your team, you know, because I really love what you're doing. I love the impact that you're having on the culture and you're so young. And I was saying to you off camera how a lot of people, they start with a lot of fire and zeal, but they just don't finish well. So like when I was saying to you and your team, you know, it's very easy for your age, but the level of influence that you have, the platform that you have, the gifting that you have, the anointing that you have, it's very easy for you to see opportunities as the reward, the right phone call, you know, the right bag, the right opportunity, the right contract. See that's reward. And if those things are reward, then devil could dangle carrots in front of you and lead you in a compromise. But if the reward is outside of this life, if your reward is the cross, if the reward is Christ himself, if the reward is the crown that you're not going to lay down at his feet, if that is the highest reward, it makes it more difficult for the devil to dangle those carrots in front of you. If you've been watching for a while in these videos, if it actually helped you, let me tell you about the best way you could support what we're doing here. We just launched the channel membership every week. I'm posting members only episodes, which include rock conversations, more of my real life and what I'm walking through in Q&As where I respond directly to your questions. I spend a lot of time in the comments responding to as many of you as I could, but as the channels grown, I just can't keep up anymore. So this is my way of staying connected with you more directly. I'm also doing a monthly live stream where I answer your questions in real time and talk through things. 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So it's making grants, but you know, some of that only my wife and another guy on our team division have talked about was that materialistic thing that you saw. I was Tony off camera like it. I'm not going to lie. Like at the beginning, when you get into it, it does seem like, oh, that's the gift from God. So it's like, of course, the more money, the more opportunities in this. And then it was really like the past couple months. I started getting sobered. And I was like, that, that's not success. That's not success. And so then it really would. It's done to my heart. And I'm, I'm really having a hard time with this. It's made me so brokenhearted. It makes me just want to say no to everything. Like, that's what it makes me, it makes me want to say the total opposite. At first, it was, I got to say yes to everything partially because it's, oh, well, opportunity is never going to come again. Of course, it's from God. And then the shift change and it's what was never about opportunity in the first place. I got thank you that you have like given me strength to see that and know that. But now it makes me go like, it almost makes me have trust issues with people. I'm like, do you, do you really like care about me? Or did you, what do you want from me? I don't want, I don't want to say no to that and that. And I don't want to, no, I don't want to, like, I don't want to show up and do that thing anymore or do that. It makes me just kind of want to like isolate. But how, how do you, and that's what I'm really wrestling with. It's like, how do you differentiate a no versus Satan trying to get you to shelter in and not, and not do what God's calling me. Yeah. I think this is an area I'm still growing in, right? I want to be fully transparent, right? I think it's an area still growing and I think I've made a lot of mistakes in this area because I've been a local pastor for 13 years, but it's only in the last two years. I've been itinerant and ministry like traveling, speaking things like that. And a lot of doors are opening to me right now. Yeah. More doors than I could keep up with. Well, you were itinerant before just people were inviting you. Right. Same thing. Same thing. My itinerant ministry was in the street. Yeah. Right. No, by the same thing. But the doors that open to me now is more than I can imagine, right? Let's just you not be honest, right? And I think we got to know difference between a God doing a good door, right? When we have to choose between an evil door and a good door, that's an easy decision. The harder decision is between two doors that look good. And knowing like this is a God door, this is not a door. So like, so I think for me in the beginning of traveling, I went a lot of places. I don't know if every place I went, I was supposed to go. I didn't know the doors open. I went, right? And now, you know, I travel so much. I walk out the door so much. I leave my family so much. Right. I've seen them cry. I've seen them shed tears me leaving. I've seen it had an effect on my family. So for me now, I've seen them cry. I've And for you, I want to walk through the doors that the Holy Spirit wants me to walk through. Right? I want to say yes to the things I need to say yes to. And I think for you, I'm going to say because it's very important for your generation. Y'all also, we have to learn the value of know. Know is a very powerful word, right? When we don't use know, we become a slave to opportunities, right? We think we have to do everything and then we develop our Jesus complex in which we think we are the end all, the fix in the whole culture. And we got to be careful with that. We got to know, Bryce has to know, Phillip has to know, what is Bryce's assignment, what is Phillip's assignment. It's like, you remember when the Lord went down to the pool of Bethesda, I've been to the pool of Bethesda, right? And if you read the text very carefully, he's there during a feast, so that means Jerusalem would have swole in numbers. Normally, there'll be a handful of people hanging around that pool. But if we read the text right and we understand culture might have been a couple hundred people around that pool because it's happening during a feast. How many people did he heal that day? How many? One, one, one man who had been there 38 years, right? So now, this is the way I study. I'm a pictorial person, so I'm putting myself in the text. So if you and I put ourselves in text, I mean Jesus went down to that pool and he had to step over people to get to that one man, he had to walk past people to get to that one man. Excuse me. Pardon me. He had to get around all those people to get to that one man. He heals how many people, that one man. Now, if you could have healed more, maybe we don't know the gospel right and give it to us. But what the gospel right did give is a pool full of sick people and Jesus heals one man. His assignment that day was that one man, right? We got to have the same discipline. But what is our assignment and what is not, every cry is not my assignment. Every open door is not my assignment. We have to have enough discipline in our own soul to not be so platform driven. The thing that every door that opens, I need to be on that platform, right? So we got to have the, like for example, I don't know if I should say this on the podcast. Okay. Okay. The current administration sent me an invite to be a part of the national day of prayer. That's coming this year, right? There's a national day of prayer coming this year in the middle of the year. They sent me an invite to be a part of that day, right? If I was a platform driven, I would have immediately, as soon as the invite came, first day, I would have responded like, how could you say no, I'm from Queens, right? I'm a, I'm a, I'm a dude from Queens with no real seminary education, White House calls. You go. Right? But that's not what I did. I took that invite and I took it to our prayer team, I took it to our staff, I took it to my executive pastor, who's here, and I put it before him, what do you think about this? Would y'all join me in prayer about whether or not I should go? Because I know if our goal is going to come out of price, right? It's going to come out of cost, social persecution, right? And this would be like the highest invite in the land, right? In my flesh, I would just say, go, all right, who thinks twice? But because I have been so much, right? And because I've made mistakes, I had to remind myself, you listen to him, Bryce? I'm only a steward of my ministry, all right? I will give an account for all of it, all right? So now when invitations come, I have to pray with them, I take it to the prayer team, pray, right? If it's God's will, I go, if it's not as will, I can't go. And you and I have read this in the scriptures, when Paul was busy going, and then one night he has a dream, God says, no, don't go over there, go over here and he sees the man standing on Macedonia, watch this, come over here and preach to us, Paul wakes up from that dream, watch, he heads west towards Macedonia, right? He preaches in Macedonia in that area, eventually he'll plant a church in that area of the world. That church he planted was Philippa, the first church planted on the European continent. That letter that he writes to the Philippians from prison, he's writing that letter to the first church planted on the European continent, and maybe that one church helped in Christianity is spread west, we will never know, we can lean on the text just a little bit, right? What if the Lord don't send him west, what if he goes out, is it direction? We don't know, right? Would you not be sitting here today in a world where Christianity is welcomed in the west? We don't know. So the point I'm trying to make to say all of that is, we have to know our assignments, you have to know yours. I don't know mine, and I was just not run through every single door, I was just to run through the doors that God intends for us to run through, as we become a slave to opportunities. Pray for me too, Bryce, that God will help me make a decision, the right decision about whether or not I need to go. Absolutely. I will. Yeah, and that made me feel a lot more human too, because sometimes I know exactly what you mean. I've been in places where I'm like, I'm not supposed to be here right now. I know, I'm sitting there and I'm like, I'm doing here, I'm not supposed to be here. And so thank you for saying that, because sometimes I don't know about you, it makes you feel a little crazy. You know, should I have done, should I, backtrack, I'm sorry, like you know, get in that position. But you mentioned your family, and that was the advice I wanted to ask you, was how I'm so encouraged by you and your wife, like every time I see a sprinkle or a glimpse on social media, I'm like, man, they love each other, and I love it. But you also mentioned it, and I think this has been the hardest thing, like it costs, like you have to count the costs when you leave. You have to count the costs, like, you know, we're on our tool right now, and Maddie and I created, and we knew that we were counting the cost, but like, I've been away for almost a little under two weeks, and that was hard, and it was challenging, and Satan was coming our way, with many different things, and having a different time zones, and talk, and figured out, and being away, and long days, and late nights, and now we've got to see each other this morning, and it goes beautiful here, she's on her way. Oh, okay, yeah, we went to church this morning, but you know, I think that, how do you guys count the cost and marriage? Like, how do you guys do ministry and marriage? How do you make time for your family, and at the same time walk out what God's called you to do? Yeah. Everything you say yes to something else is going to suffer, all right, so I think the longer you're married and do ministry, your yes has got to be more calculated, all right. The first seven years of my marriage was bad, it was very tough, a lot of fights, you know, threatening each other with divorce, and all the things, right, our first seven years was not good, it was bad, I would take the blame for most of it, 95% if I was very selfish, I'm mature, and so I almost lost my wife, right, I think having her right now really have a second chance, she being with me, I feel like it's a second chance, my ministry's a second chance, but married now over 21 years, right, so you two months in, I'm two decades in, right. I think the beauty of my wife, Lena, I love her because Lena is one of the most godliest, virtuous, wise, humble women I've ever known, right, she's changing my life. And she is a ride or die, right, she understands the bigger picture, and she understands where our rewards are going to be, right, and so for her, she did something that was very liberating for me, and I pray your wife will do this for you, right. Lena would say to me, when I have to leave to go do stuff, she would say, "Go do, you got to do man of God, I'll be here when you get back home." You go out there and preach God's Word, and I'm going to hold down the front, essentially we're both doing ministry because I have children, I'm out there preaching, she's at home disciplining our kids, right, and she allowed me the freedom to go do God's Word, she never made me choose between her and God, she never boxed me into a corner like that, she would always tell me, "Do you feel like God has called you to do this, yes, go do it, I'll be here when you get back," right, she's never put pressure on me for money, she's never put pressure on me in terms of what home we live in, what we drive, she's never put pressure on me in terms of what she wears, she's never put pressure on me in terms of like the scope of our ministry to size, she's never ever put that pressure on me. The only thing my wife wants from me is just she wants, in terms of my ministry, she wants to be faithful, she wants to know that I'm hearing from God, but I'm not hearing from God she and I have a problem, she's gonna come come from me, right, she wants to know, so if I tell her, I feel like God is saying, she'd be like, "Are you sure, I guess, okay, then let's do that." So she's always giving me the freedom to go and do what God is calling me to do, and she's, "I'll be here when you get back," hold down this front, right, so that has been a blessing to me, I know that's not every man's story, right, for some men, I know a brother right now who was. he lives in a prison. He could barely do God's ministry. Every time he's gonna do something his wife makes him feel guilty for doing that and so it's constantly a battle between his spouse and God and and I feel sorry for men after deal with I pray for them it's a very difficult situation to be I'm fortunate that's not my challenge. Lena's very gracious right because she understands the bigger picture right and so so for me I never had an issue there the bigger issues with my children God willing you have some right and I learned a painful lesson of being too busy to the point that they were suffering so I was sitting in my office one day and I seen a pink piece of paper in the trash can I don't write on pink paper right like I usually yellow legal pads so I'm like who put this pink paper my trash can so everything around me I keep clean like I'm aesthetically like I'm a clean dude I organize everything like my car my office is everything is immaculate it's just the way I am a needle about that I got OCD in that area so I I noticed that piece of paper in the trash can that pink one because nobody was in this office but me and I went and got that pinks of paper out of the trash can and I opened it up and it was my daughter Israel and she wrote on there she said I love Jesus and I love our church and I love my dad but I don't see him though and she put a big side face with tears coming out the side face oh my goodness right and my heart was devastated right in that moment I was so broken like man I was so busy doing work and not really my kids are suffering on the inside from my absence so I had to make a pivot right and the pivot I made was that I'm going to create a type of schedule in which my family time is always schedule they have days that belongs to them and I don't let nothing encroach on our days not ministry not meetings I will walk out of a meeting if my family calls me I will walk out of a meeting my family needs me I will call our teams I'm not coming in today my family needs me right if I have to choose between my kid performing at high school or me going to a preaching engagement I will turn out a preaching game to make sure I'm sitting in the audience to hear my kids sing so that day I had to make a decision that somewhere somehow I want my kids to leave my home and not hate Jesus on the way out all right so I have built in rhythms family rhythms right in which this is their day this is their time and those those are sacred to me I will not answer phone I don't check emails I'm not going to break that rhythmless as an emergency but there's still a cost to pay every time leave the door to hop on a plane to go somewhere they understand that their father has been called to it in our ministry so they give me grace but I don't mean they don't feel that I just think now they're a little bit more gracious because they understand they older their teenagers and then and some of my young men and women I have a 21-year-old Bryce oh wow you know that bro I know you could be my son dang I feel like you're my dad I got a I got a 21-year-old he's a beast his name is Malika he's preaching he plays instruments if your name is Malika his name is oh he's a beast right I got a 21 year I got a 20 year old that's Israel yeah I got a 20 year old I got another 20 year old in my house I got a 16 to 13 right so they're a little bit more forgiving now but the one who makes up the difference is Lena wow when I'm gone she'll take them off ice cream they go to restaurants she'll fill that gap to try to push back against the void they feel the void but she try to fill that space right so you and your wife what's her name Maddie Maddie right one thing's gonna be very important for you and Maddie beginning to have agreement right to just be an agreement about the scope of your ministry which is big the scope of your calling which is big right you have a a generational calling Bryce let's just be honest right you have a a generational calling God's hand is on you in a very mighty mighty way it's obvious that his favor is on his life on your life and it's obvious he's raising up your voice to be a voice in this generation that is only a fool cannot see that right so churches are gonna call cities are gonna call nations are gonna call right and if you are maddie not agreement it's gonna take a toll on your marriage so you got to make sure from the beginning you're maddie having conversations about this that she understands the bigger picture of eternity the bigger picture of your call she needs to understand your calling so she can partner with you in your calling so she doesn't make a self-competition between you and God so when you say babe I feel like God is telling me I have to go here maddie says to you I don't know what you call you go babe you go do God's work I feel when you get home as long as y'all to an agreement you can survive travel and distance that just got to be an agreement amazing that makes sense it's so good yeah I'm encouraged yeah I didn't want to be the guy that was like yo you could be my dad but like hey I like it I'm about you Bryce hey I pray thank you thank you no if you know I speaking of Malachi not your son but Malachi chapter four that scripture talks about the hearts of fathers turning back to sons you know my sons turning back to fathers like that rocked me to the core yeah man you know I I spent so much of my life when I was 17 I was serving at any conference I can get my hands on I'd pass the tide bucket around I'd be in the green room you know serving in there whatever it may be and I met so many Lee I tried to latch on to so many father so many fathers like man this is it this is it this is it and it never it never happened until until a dude from Ohio named Marcus come on he said he he let me come travel within my travel with him for a year yeah and and that scripture has rocked me to the core it's beautiful and that's why I'm grateful for like fathers like you you know because you you make you make my generation feel empowered yeah like walk this faith out yeah because so it's a it you talked about earlier like so many dudes want to die with the baton they don't want to pass it on yeah and if I didn't have a Marcus in my life and we didn't have guys like you in our life yeah then we would feel the same way we would feel like well I don't I want to die with this time yeah and I think that's beautiful man I commend you for that well I appreciate you no man listen you need to hear me say this bro that's highly commendable that you did that that's so commendable that you did that that serving is beneath you then leadership is above you I start out just like you I was cleaning toilets I'm listening to music worship music and I had joy doing that bro I was loving Jesus and just cleaning toilets being a Janet at my church you know cleaning stuff and I had so much joy just serving anybody I can serve but also looking for fathers yeah right and I think this is like the most fatherless generation in world in history yeah right I remember I was a school teacher like 75% of my kids had no dads no father right and I think that's applied we don't have time to get into that but I definitely not supplied the enemy so when people come into relation with God it's hard to connect with him as a father yeah right but the fact that you were serving serving serving and looking for fathers they're people watching right now they feel the same way yeah and they want mentors and here's what we do Bryce I need to say this to your audience I'm sure a lot of the audience of Gen Z's and millennials yeah there's a lot of them who have a right desire for mentorship that is a godly desire yeah for coaching nothing wrong with that but what they do is they see people who are famous or people they like and the automatically say that is the mentor I need no so we tried to manufacture our own mentors based on platform and what we see not knowing that person might be toxic on the other side of the camera the best mentors are ones that God divinely bless places in your life God knows you personally he knows your issues and your hangups he knows your heart breaks your qualms he knows the difficult part of you and the beautiful part of you so God is very fashion mentors that are tailor-made for Bryce so I think mentorship is best when it is divine and God supernaturally causes you to cross pass with people and you feel a divine connection with that person and they have a genuine interest in you that has nothing to do with taking something from you and it could be a person that don't nobody know their name yeah right yeah don't nobody know the name but there are people that God is fashion for you and so I would say even people watch it right now we all need mentors we all need coaches but we need the ones that God intends for us to have I think a lot of us just see famous people and say this is the mentor I need no why you don't even know what that person's character is like yeah all you see his platform you see leaves but you don't even know if they got freaked and there's some people we admire and culture and if you got closer than you wouldn't like them right you wouldn't like them and so and so no we don't need mentors because they're famous we need the people God intends for us to have in our lives you understand I'm saying right and so and so I would I would I would say to you I'm so thankful to hear that you was a faithful servant you so seeds of servant servanthood you're reaping a harvest for being a great servant but then God brought a man into your life to be father to you does he have a mega platform I mean he's a I'm not not really not at the time we met the whole world know his name at the time no no we met we met at a conference I was serving that yeah but he was tailor-made for you yeah all right and and so I think that's what more of the generation is to encourage your generation to not just run after people would they think they need but one after the people got intense for them to be in their lives. We should pray mentors into our life and not just try to latch on to people because we think filling them like that makes sense. Yeah, I think it's a lot of sense. Yeah. I want to I want to shift on prayer really quick and then I want to talk a little bit about in times. I think that's the more I'm talking about. Yeah, I mean, yeah, we need to know but it's like point to talk about with prayer. I mean, you're a man of prayer. Prayer is is an essential not to I mean, it shouldn't be just an essential to your life. It should be an essential to the Christian life and I'm gonna get really vulnerable here. Like I love to pray. Yeah, I love to pray for people. I love to pray. I'm gonna be completely honest. Like sometimes I feel like I'm talking to a brick wall. Like do you do you ever even have those moments even though that you have cultivated this intimate this deeply intimate communication line with God. You still have those days where you feel like you're talking to the wall. I do. I think I'm having that moment right now. Wow. Right. You know, our church is in the middle of like, you know, property searches and major projects. I'm seeking God for guidance right now and I'm not getting anything like just crystal clear, right crystal clear. So even right now, I haven't walked with Jesus since 2003 right now. I'm in a season where I'm praying about things and I'm not getting a clan answer. It almost feels like it's bouncing off the ceiling. Wow. And I think we go through that. And I think the beauty in that Bryce is that God teaches us to trust him even when we can't trace him. Mm hmm. And to be faithful even when we can't figure out what he's doing. I think if every time we prayed, we got an immediate answer. It would be too easy. Mm hmm. I think sometimes when it feels like he's not listening or when it feels like he's leaving us in a little bit of a fog. I think he's still cultivating something now character and perfecting our faith to just keep trusting him even when we can't trace him all the way. Yeah. Right. And so they're major decisions I'm trying to make right now for a ministry when I say major. I mean major major decisions. That if I make a mistake, they could be catastrophic. Wow. Financially, spiritually, all the things. And I'm before God every day. And I'm still not getting clarity on all these things. So what do I do in the meantime? I keep doing what I know to do. I keep being faithful. So I think there are times when we all go through that. I think if we say we never been through that, it might be a little bit of pride there. I think all of us go through seasons when we feel like God, are you listening? Yeah. But I think in no seasons, he's still just as close. He's near. He never foresecks us. I just think he's perfecting us. I said to somebody the other day, I'm so glad you asked this question. I said to somebody the other day, somebody was asking me this the other day about them feeling distanced from God. And whether or not God was still close, I said, I said, yo, bro, when my kids was real little, I would take them to the park. And when it was like maybe six, seven, I would let them wander a little bit further away from me. And the park would be real big. But I just let them wander, right? And they'll get so far away from me. I could see them looking around the kids and they don't know where I'm at. I'm sitting on the bench, but I'm watching them from a distance where they are. They think they can't. I'm nowhere around. And I see them looking around where I'm at. But I'm saying, right, well, I'll never left. Wow. I got my eye on them even though they can't see me. I'm watching them. If anybody ran up on them, I'll be there. Wow. If I seen a door coming, I'm there. I got my eye on them from a distance, even though they can't. It's crowded in the park. So now I see them looking for me in the field. They can't find me, but I never left. I'm still in the same place I was when they started walking. All right. So even when children get far away, even when they feel like God is far away, they can't see him. He's still in the same place. He was when they started wandering on the throne. Wow. Never leave. Never forsaken. When he's ready, he can shout loud enough. I could yell out Malachi, Israel, come back over here. It's time to go home now. They'll look around. Oh, daddy, there you are. And they make a beeline for me. Wow. But I never left. Yeah. So even when God feels distant, he's still in the same place. Wow. He's still watching. He's just got their eye on them. And when he's ready, he'll shout. And when he ready, he'll talk. And when he's ready, you're here and out here. And we make a beeline for him, either to come back if we're far or say, now I know what to do. So I could shout at Malachi. All right. Come on. It's time to go now. That's come back you too far. Oh, Malachi, get off of that swing and get on the other one. That's an instruction. So even when he's far away, he could break the silence whenever he's ready. And he'd give us an instruction. Yeah. We'll tell us come back home. Wow. But he never left where he was. That's so good. Wow. Yeah. I think, you know, I heard a Billy Graham quote one time where he was like, oftentimes we don't feel God there. That's when he's the closest to you. He never left. He's right there. I love that analogy. That's so good. Yeah. He never left. And I think the people feel that distance too, especially with the end time star. And the thing. And I mean, shoot, bro, we in war right now. It's, it's crazy. Bro, listen, we in a war right now, this escalating. And you got end time nations who are flirting, whether or not to get involved in this war. Like, can we talk honest? Like, right now, as you're not recording the US is enrolled in Iran. Yep. But then you have end time nations that are flirting with getting involved in this war like Russia, like China. China's mentioned in the old testament as mentioned in the scriptures is Russia. These, like these, these, these, these nations geographically where they are are mentioned in the scriptures as end time nations. They're flirting with getting involved with this war. Right. I think any time Israel's at war, we should be paying attention. Yeah. Anytime there's conflict in the Middle East, the believer should be paying attention. Right. Because you read the scriptures and I do. Right. The scripture tells us there's a man coming. The scripture calls a man of sin, the antichrist. He's going to be a political figure. I believe he's going to hand some well-spoken. Right. I believe I know what religion he's going to be a part of. He's going to emerge. And the scripture says when he comes, he will sign a seven year peace treaty with Israel. There is no need for a peace treaty if there's not war. Right. There is no need for a peace treaty if there is no war. The antichrist has nothing to sign if there's no conflict in the Middle East. So whenever there's major conflict in the Middle East, at least in our generation, we should be paying attention to that. Right. Because watch, there must be conflict for him to bring that treaty. Right. I wouldn't be surprised if he's alive right now. I wouldn't be surprised if he's working his way through the political ranks. I wouldn't be surprised if he's in college somewhere. You can feel his spirit in the earth. That antichrist breath. I would not be surprised if he was alive right now. Right. But anytime there's conflict in that part of the world, that region of the world, we should be paying attention because the man of sin is going to rise with that peace treaty for Israel. That means Israel and that part of the world has to be in conflict for that to happen. It's part of end time prophecy. So no one who's a believer who is a scripture should be surprised that there's conflict in that part of the world. What we should be doing is do we have oil in our lips? What would be like the virgins who are ready? Or the virgins who are not? Yep. The people who sit in church every Sunday and not ready. And the ones who are. The ones who have an Isacar type spirit and the ones who don't. Right. So we need to be like the sons of Isacar, those who rightly discern the times. And we know what to do about it. Yeah. You just have too many believers that are not discerning the times. Yeah. They're going to church, but they're blind. Yeah. Going to conferences blind, reading devotions blind, they're not paying attention. Yeah. That was happening right now. I think we live in the last days of the church. That's my personal opinion. Yeah. I think time is running out. We. That's why every place I go, every city I go, every country, I tell the believes in that room. Time is running out. Yeah. And we need to echo that. We need more people to keep. Time is running out. Time is running out. Time we don't have that much time. Love Bryce. Yeah. We are living. You watch sports. Oh, yeah. You like football. I love football. Okay. It's the fourth quarter. We got three minutes left to go. Right. And we down by seven. Yeah. That's the urgency we need right now. Wow. Yeah. I agree. I think. Yeah. I you know, a lot of people, they want to say, Oh, I've seen this so much on social media. They they talk about they when you talk about the end times, it's fear mongering. It's ain't fear mongering. It gives me an urgency. Yeah. Every time when I think, Oh, shoot tomorrow could be the day that Jesus comes back or we're in the thick of it or you see you see missiles fired in the Middle East. You see this or I mean, especially with technology. I don't think AI is inherently bad, but things are getting so real right now. I saw a video of a panther jumping through a window. I thought it was real. Me too. It was fake. Me too. It was fake. Me too. And I'm like, yo, what the heck is going on? It's actually insane. And it's super. Me too. And I'm like, so it's so wild to me, but you know, I think one of the one of the reasons that why I think that my my generation that's crazy struggles to grasp the end times because they put so much hope in tomorrow. A couple of things you said are so profound. Can we walk through some of this stuff? Yeah, we can. Let's just go backwards, right? It's right. AI is a dope tool, but I think AI is going to be part of the end time prophecy, right? Even when the script tells us in Revelation, when the Antichrist come, he sets up an image of himself in the temple. And that image talks. And it blasphemes God. And it causes people to worship like a talking image. Is that a hologram? Is it AI? I mean, I Talking image AI is gonna have a lot to do with that right AI is gonna deceive a lot of people in social media I seen a video me preaching somebody's church. I'll never been to I was standing behind the pull up it like I was standing behind the poor I saw it on tiktok bro like it was like I seen a video me on tiktok standing behind somebody's pulpit preaching with the pastor right next to me I'm like I never met this man I never been there and that's not a knock on the man or the church. I'm just saying I've never been there right? It's it's crazy. I see whole AI stuff for me saying I seen a dude make a AI video of me saying that I was his mentor and It was my voice You remember this you remember this yo it was it was my voice saying this is my mentee I have firm him when everybody come to his church this Sunday sent on my couch in my home office with my voice and so we we had to we had to You remember that and we had to come off a brain we had we had to get out that we had to get out that dude You know I'm saying from anyway, so so I think AI is gonna AI is is gonna play a major major role in N times No, it's no that about it, but I want then let's let's digress to what you said next You said a lot of people think that if you preach about the N times you are a famed monger and like okay, yeah, okay People need to read Bryce I agree, okay, right? We need to read right? Yeah, okay, then Paul teach about the N times All the time right did not Jesus talk about the N times all the time and they was doing that in the first century right now Okay, if Paul and Jesus and the apostles talked preach wrote about N times with warnings very strong in the first century How much more should we be doing that now? We have less time than they did they are preaching N times the people that That live 2000 years ago. Yeah Right you and I are over 2025 years removed from the resurrection of Christ Yeah, should you and I and our generation not be talking about the N times with more Varacity and intensity and urgency now because we have left time is like you said you like football. Yeah, okay The coach gives you a speech before the game We use another one to have time but it's fourth quarter you lose and you don't think that speech is not intensified Should anybody say to the coach now you can't encourage us in the fourth quarter to be serious now like nobody's gonna think that yeah, right? So I would say to believers I Want to say this on camera, right? You and I never met before It's first time we met right all right But I'm sure you've talked a lot about the N times on your platform. Oh, yeah, and on your social media pages. Yeah, and so have I yeah But we never met that's right. We never pray together. That's right. We never been in the same room together But you've talked about the N times. Mm-hmm. Probably a lot. Mm-hmm. So have I that burden is in you Hey, man, you're feeling that when you pray. Yeah, okay But who will you fill with? Holy Spirit? Yeah, who's at me? Oh, he's here, right? So maybe God is echoing in the culture. Mm-hmm Do anybody have a listen? Wow. This is what I want my blind paying attention to why it's Bryce talking about the N times Oh, the Holy Spirit leading him to do that Why is Philip talking about the N times? Oh, no Holy Spirit leading to do that. Why is John over here talking about the N times? Maybe maybe we're not trying to fair manga. Maybe we're hearing what we need to say Wow, maybe God is trying to use any willing non-compromising, not afraid non-punk voices To speak the truth because when God speaks he echoes and maybe what people are hearing in the culture is the warning of God my sons my daughters wake up Yeah, don't have that much time left and I'm using every available voice The sound and alarm in the country in the world. Yeah, I need to be on mission I am coming and I'm coming very soon. So maybe we're not fair mongering. Maybe we're doing what's supposed to do because God is trying to wake in his Right, well, I agree. I mean, can you imagine? Like we we talk about it like we get like five hate comments and everyone's like all the N times is going down but then like Jesus just utters a spirit and it's like completely dark the veil tears and an earthquake goes down Did you really? Yeah, just preach that text last week. I'm just thinking about that right now like I imagine those guys They probably like thinking all hell's about a break loose you know, which I mean it did but you know, they're they're they're freaking out I'd be freaking out too. Yeah, yeah darkness temple, you know, temple shadows earthquake the veil tears all that's craziness, right? Yeah But I just think God is echoing I agree I think he's trying to get a soul mission. I think the Lord is trying to pull the bride out of apathy And out of being indifferent, right? It's um You know how Jesus says no man knows that they know the hour. Mm-hmm. Well, what if we didn't? What if you're not new and in 2030 and October of 2030 I was gonna be the end of the church ages we knew it and We knew that verifiably from heaven Would they be mocking us for talking about the N times? Some people will but more people probably say I need to start getting my life together. Yeah, right? And God and give us that day He just gave us like things we can see in the seasons. Yeah, like when the leaves start falling off the tree You know his fallen winter's coming. Yep. The leaves are falling off the tree, bro Right, we seeing things in the news that's coming right out of the pages of description. Yeah, right? You have to be really blind right now not to realize that when the closer to the end. Yeah, so the leaves are falling off the tree And that's why Jesus used to always say the same Bryce Those who have ears to hear Let them yeah. Mm-hmm. That's everybody will not here as you have to suffer a consequence For not being prepared. Well, you know, we just got to try to get as many people prepared as possible. Yeah Yeah, yeah, I my brother Keenan and I were talking about the end times I heard him preach this thing out of revelation one time rock me to the core And I it moved me so much I sat on it for a little bit and I was like It gave me that new this like a new profound urgency. He was talking about revelation 20 how God's gonna wipe away every tear And he was saying how His interpretation was you know, we're gonna watch our loved ones and our family members, you know three five verses before that God casts every non-believer into hell Versus 11 to 15 and then he wipes away every tear. Yes, and he's like, you know, if you don't think that we're gonna watch our loved ones and family members Be cast in the hell and that's the last time we cry. Yeah, and that's the last little bit of weeping and gnashing of teeth and just suffering. Yeah, and Gosh when I heard that and I read it. I mean, it's one thing to hear it. You know faith comes by hearing I'm like, yeah, wow. Yeah, but that stirred me and I like went to the scripture. I was like, oh my god It's right there verse 11 to 15. It's real the white throne judgment And for that reason, I pray with tears for people who are not safe beginning with my own family, you know I'm not sure if there's a week that goes by. I do not shed tears and prayers for everyone. I know it was not safe every friend every family member I'm covering my children. I want to make sure they all make it I think of men knew how graphic eternal separation from God is How graphic hell is going to be which is temporary The last place will be the lake of fire. That's what we know according to revelations chapter 20 If men knew how graphic that was And that the fact that it's eternal I think we would care more about people who are not safe You know, I say this to my church all the time because I'm trying to give them like you know people read the Bible But they don't think about what they're reading. Yeah, you know the scripture says after Judas committed suicide He was the son doing for perdition so we know that Judas didn't make it to glory. Mm-hmm. All right. I say this to my church all the time I said what year did that happen It was around 8D 33 around near Christ died I mean If we take the scriptures for what it is. I mean Judas would have been there for two millennia And he'll be there for another two millennia and another two And another two and then if we take everything Jesus said that the worm Doesn't die men nash they teeth for pain they chewing their tongue They're conscious of their suffering And they're not going to get out You know how tormenting is to be in a place separate from God. You're just now you separate from his grace His love His mercy is blessing glory You're tormented you have a body fit for destruction. Oh wow You're in darkness You feel the fire But you're never going to get out. There is there is no reprieve There is no purgatory. There's no second chance When we think about how graphic that is in terms of suffering And then we think about how long it's going to last. Mm-hmm forever And if we just some way somehow wrap our minds around the graphic nature of everyone who dies separated from God And what that person is going to endure forever If a person was sitting down long enough to think about the nature of that that level of sentencing. They might start praying for people they know well far away from God. They will probably start supporting ministries that are serious about the spread of the gospel. They will probably say you know what a part of my money a part of my check has to support churches. Bryce ministries has to support ministries that's serious about telling people Jesus. They might start praying for aunts and uncles and parents and they might start thinking about people walking around who they know who don't know God. Especially since we know do you know when you're gonna die Bryce? No. Do I know? No. No. Last week in my church a young man was headed to our ministry. He was 20 22 years of age died in a motorcycle crash. Oh my goodness. On his way to 2019 that week with his family. We did a memorial for them on stage. He was a believer so we know where he is. What if he wasn't? Yeah. He'd be right next to Judas. At 22 and not getting out and does anybody know when it last day is no. But you got people that hear the gospel imitation all the time and push away. I'll get right next week. How do you know you're gonna have next week? I've done funerals for teenagers, babies, adults. I've no teenagers that died in car crashes. Right. That's the whole thing. Like you're not saying tomorrow you got plans to go be with your wife later. Yeah. You got plans to do stuff tomorrow. Yeah. How are we know we're gonna see tomorrow? We don't. But for you and now we got assurance. You're gonna pillow your head. You're gonna lay in your pillow tonight. You got assurance. Something happened to you tonight. You know what you're gonna be. Yeah. What about your cousin that don't know Jesus? Hmm. Or the person watching right now. They grandmama that don't know Jesus. That's what they say in the South. Brad's grandmama. I'm from New York. So I say grandmama. Grandmother. But but no I'm being serious. Right. And the Lord described these things in graphic detail. Yeah. How about when he told a story of Lazarus and the rich man? I was just about to bring that up. How about that? Right. Tell a story of a poor man, a rich man, they both die. One goes to glory. The other one goes to hell. Yeah. And watch and from hell he cries out for water. Yeah. Get nothing. Go tell my family that this place is real. No, we will not. They got the prophets. They don't want to listen to the prophets in this life. They're going to end up in the same place as you. And he's conscious that he's not going to get out. Yeah. Right. So I think if more of us. If more of us thought about what that's going to be like for family members and friends. People at the job. People in gym. People we say we love. Yeah. And more of us thought about how horrific is going to be for people to die apart from Chris. It's like jumping out of a airplane with no parachute. Right. Like if we if we thought about what that's going to be like for people to wake up on the other side of death without the righteousness of Christ. We might just pray a little bit different. We might labor a little bit different. We might. We might care a little bit different. We might be a little bit more faithful. Yeah. We might be a little bit more generous. And it's not just my worry. Right. I think where we are Christians, we should all be concerned about people who are far away from God. Right. Yeah. It's going to be horrific. And mind of people who are entering eternity apart from Christ. Bro, I'll be in the Uber. I'll be praying for the Uber driver having conversations. I was in the Uber with a driver who was Muslim. We get into a conversation about Jesus. He was very gracious. He had a good intellectual conversation about Christ. And he was open. And I was open. It was it was a good conversation, bro. I did not convert him. But I did leave a seed for him. Right. That the Holy Spirit come by me and water that seed. Yeah. We sent into the Uber with the unbeliever right in front of us, you know, a conversation, a prayer, anything. Yeah. It's going to be an awful and dreadful day. When that great right throwing judgment comes and he knows going to be worse for Bryce, not not the atheist, Bryce. It's going to be worse for the person that been in church a whole life. Yeah. And thought they were Christian. Matthew seven. Lord, many will come to me on that day and say, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, go to conferences in your name? And I went to church in your name. And I went to Christian school in your name and all that. The atheists don't call them Lord, Bryce. Right. The Muslims not calling them Lord. The Hindus not calling them Lord. The people are calling them Lord of people who think that they are okay with God. And that's going to be the person I feel the most sorry for. Yeah. It's painful, bro. It is painful. And I think, you know, I'm just in the back gospel of Luke, Jesus, he says, the harvest is ripe. That's the craziest words ever. The odds are in our favor as believers, but the labor was a few. Not enough people doing it. The harvest is right. And that's why I'm grateful for bold voices and fathers like you who are willing to, to, to stir the pot in a good way, like stir believers hearts to say, hey, like, let's go, let's go throughout punch the devil. John the Baptist said the kingdom of heaven has suffered violence, but the violent take it by force is grateful for voices like yours. You know, it's necessary. Even if it comes with persecution, it's necessary. Yeah. Right. When I think about your voice, you know, like, I've kind of like tried to tap them, you know, I followed you back on IG. So I'm kind of tapping them watching what you're doing. When I, when I hear you talk, you know, what I hear, I hear, I hear collotions 128. All right. Him we proclaim. Watch the first word warning everyone. That's what Paul wrote. The Church of Galasi. Him we proclaim. Right. And then the first thing he says, warning everyone. And then teaching everyone with all wisdom that we may present everyone, mature before Christ. So I was just to warn and to teach. Right. Not just to teach. It's a lot of teaching out there. Yeah. Not enough warning. And then we can't just warn and not teach. Yeah. The culture needs both. That's right here in your voice. Warning and teaching. That's what Paul told us to do. And we proclaim preach Christ, warn, teach. That's what we're supposed to be doing. Proclaiming, warning, teaching, proclaiming, warning, teaching. Proclaiming, warning, teaching. That's what the culture needs. That's what I hear in your voice. Your voice is needed. Everybody wants teaching. They don't want no warning. Right. They love that the stuff that they're making for all the proclamation and the teaching. Oh, they love that. Nobody want to be one. Yeah. But that's what Paul said. Proclaim, warn, teach. We need all three. Yeah. That's the one in the middle people don't like. Yeah. They don't like that. They don't like that one. Bryce. I would, I would really love for you to pray for our audience to close it out for like I do a fresh boldness. Yeah. That believers can listen to this and that they that they hear the heart behind it. And they're like, no, be sent. It's like going to be bold for that. Would you, would you be willing to pray for it? Yeah. Um, thank you, bro. I have a million platform. I enjoy talking to you, man. I enjoy talking to you. Thank you. My man, bro. Let's pray eternal God and of a wise Father. Bryson, I give you glory and honor and praise and homage for who you are. And Bryson, I thank you. Then when we was both in darkness and you're mercy and compassion, you kept us alive. Long enough that you would rescue us, my darkness and bring us into the kingdom of light and that you've anointed us now to be voices in this darkness. And we want to always be thankful for that. Father, I want to pray for the person listening to this podcast right now, watching whoever they are, wherever they are. First God, I pray for the believer that you would remind the believer of the price that your son paid for them on the cross that they would see what Christ has done from the cross. And it would turn away from the cross and live a life of complete surrender onto you. I pray you would cause them to love the things that you love and to hate the things that you hate. I pray you give them a ferocious desire for holiness and for purity and for the kingdom. I pray God, you will set them on fire. You deliver them from being lukewarm and from being indifferent and full of apathy and lethargy and pride. I pray you would open their blinded eyes that they would see what is happening in the culture that their hearts will be burned like your prophet Isaiah. I pray, God, you will give them a sicarian anointing. God, that they would see what is happening. God and it will be moved to do something about it. I pray you would awaken the bride wherever she is in United States and the UK across the continent of Africa and around the world. I pray you set the bride on fire and help our Lord to be on mission in these final hours of the church age. Deliver us God from vices and chains that have us bound from ambitions and things that are ancillary that seem noble in things that are sinful and deceitful in the dark. Let us be a bride full of character and integrity and holiness and purity and full of fire and on mission for you. I pray that for the brother or sister who's watching right now, awaken your sons and daughters and burn them in their hearts like you did Isaiah. And Father, we pray for the unbeliever right now that they were tremble under the weight of the gospel that they will know they are sinners and they are far away from you. And I pray right now they will feel the nudging of the Holy Spirit warming them to repent and to surrender their life to the Lord Jesus Christ. We pray for the salvation of the person who's watching. We pray for the salvation of family members and friends. We pray the gospel will go out to the whole world and reap a harvest God in these final days of the church age. May the lamb who was slain receive the rewards of his suffering. Let revival break out around the world. I pray for my brother Bryce, my little brother in the faith that you would bless his ministry to prosper and to thrive and to be fruitful and you continue to elevate him as an end time voice to proclaim, to warn, to teach. Bless his marriage, his wife, keep them in all of your ways. I ask all of this God in the mighty and the majestic and the matchless name of our soon-coming king the Lord Jesus Christ. Amen.