Coach Jackie hosts a lively, politically charged live event at Barclays Center, celebrating women’s sports and pop culture through her new podcast *Is She Game?*, launching October 9th. She blends sharp critiques with heartfelt passion, using her "hater" persona to spotlight gatekeeping, misrepresentation, and the lack of diversity in women’s sports fandom. Her personal journey—from growing up playing soccer abroad to loving the US Women’s Soccer team and D.C. basketball—grounds her advocacy in lived experience. She calls out key figures like Sophie Cunningham and Shaquille O’Neal, while expressing concern over transphobic rhetoric and the limited visibility of women athletes. The event features playful banter, celebrity games, and a strong emphasis on community, inclusivity, and authentic connection. A central figure, Ellie the Elephant, is celebrated for her bold, artistic performances—like stomping and kissing—that embody fierce, joyful femininity. The conversation underscores the need for greater representation, empathy, and joy in sports culture, positioning Jackie and her team as both fierce advocates and joyful community leaders.
Ellie the Elephant did the artist way, and I'm certain of it.
She's doing her morning pages, and you know.
Ellie puts more into her shows than actual pop stars do into their shows.
100%.
We just saw it.
We saw the work.
Doing the work.
I loved when she was twerking in front of Hillary Clinton.
And what do you mean by that?
No, I'm joking.
She was stomping.
Stomping.
Hi, it's Peyton.
And Hunter.
And this is Let Me Say This from Higher Ground.
So you might have noticed that we are not at Let Me Say This headquarters today.
If you're watching on video, which you should be because we're really pretty and we got our makeup done.
But that's right.
The lovely people from Spotify made sure that we were coming to you live.
Live from Barclays Center right before the Liberty Game.
And we are welcomed by a special guest.
Someone very close to us on the internet and our Higher Ground family.
And our lesbian family.
Yes.
I'm always saying that.
We have Coach Jackie.
Hello.
Coach Jackie, welcome to Let Me Say This.
Thank you.
I'm so excited to be here in your arena.
Not our arena.
No, I'm not saying.
Our arena.
Yeah, it's your arena.
Thank you for welcoming me.
They rename it.
Yeah.
Let Me Say This Arena.
Yeah.
This is Let Me Say This HQ.
I heard you have some good news for us.
I do.
I do.
I have a podcast coming with Higher Ground and Run Amok.
It's called Is She Game?
It'll be women's sports, pop culture, all the good things.
And it's going to come out October 9th.
October 9th.
Watch this space.
I'm very, very, very excited.
That was three varies.
So.
So you mean it.
So you mean it.
Yeah.
Sometimes I say two varies and I'm telling a lie.
Okay.
No, we know.
But three, I mean it.
Okay.
I'm so excited.
Yeah.
I'm going to be tuning in.
And this is the official announcement like in this arena on your podcast.
So you're breaking the news.
I'm literally breaking news.
We just broke the story.
Yeah.
It's similar to how I broke the LeBron news to Obama.
It's kind of like that.
So you're going to actually have to tell me the entire story of that.
Oh.
So that would just, that's, that's the whole story is that he was going to come into the
room and then we found out LeBron was treated to the Sixers.
And then I said, well, can I break it to the president?
Oh my God.
You're so lucky.
You got to whisper in his ear.
Yeah.
I said.
Whatever.
History.
Okay.
Sorry.
There'll be a George Bush watercolor of that next.
Just the boss.
Just the boss.
Yeah.
It was awesome.
But I've never, I don't know anything about men's sports.
So I was like, no follow-ups.
Yeah.
Right.
Because I don't know anything else about it.
But I love you breaking news.
We kind of are.
We are the Michelle and Obama of podcast.
Oh, wait.
I guess that's Michelle.
That would be, that would be, that'd be her.
Obama, watch your back.
I will say, I bring a certain Stephen A. Smith energy.
Don't piss me off.
What do you mean by that?
Hard-headed.
Right.
Loud.
Yep.
Right.
A lot of the time.
Wrong.
Only a few of the time.
He's clapping right now.
He comes on out.
Yeah.
Stephen, come on out.
Big-headed.
What can I say?
Wait, how much is he paying you?
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
That's really ugly except from sass.
No way.
To be like, we played to each other, him and I.
Yeah.
We go together.
No, it does feel like we are, I was saying, this is like what liberals want ESPN to be.
Yeah.
The three of us sitting at this desk.
Two lesbians and an ally.
Yeah, exactly.
Our lesbian family.
No hate.
From Obama and Michelle.
That's a family.
That's a family.
A family could look like anything and this is ours.
Coach Jackie.
Yes.
Do you consider yourself to be a lover or a hater?
I would say people probably would think of me as a lover, but I am a hater.
I am a hater of many things.
And I think that means I have taste.
Right?
Like if I wasn't a hater, then my standards would be so low.
Right?
So I just have a high standard, which means I tend to hate.
Tend to have beef.
People overlook that.
They don't see that.
They think that I don't have a dark heart.
No, no.
My heart is very bright and full of joy.
It's just that don't piss me off.
Right?
And joy can be found via hate sometimes.
Oh, and it is.
Often, in fact.
And it is.
My mom calls me all the time because I make videos a lot where I'm a little bit hateful.
And she says, Jackie, you know, I don't like that word hate.
I don't like that word hate.
That word's a strong word, hate.
And you're like, but KC just said.
That's what I'm saying.
Exactly.
I'm like, mom, if I don't hate certain people, what do I fall for?
Until you watch Love Island.
Yeah.
Totally.
Until you met someone who's like 27.
Oh, wait.
How old are you?
I'm 24.
Younger.
Born yesterday.
I'm 19.
Still my joke again.
Oh, OK.
Well, question for you.
Follow up.
Lover, hater of, because we'll get into this, bandwagon fans.
I think bandwagon is fine.
OK.
I think that sometimes when we.
When we are upset about bandwagon fans, we tend to gatekeep fandom.
And what is fandom if not community?
So we're gatekeeping community.
At the same time, if you're a bandwagon fan acting as if you're not, that's upsetting.
Right?
I'm a bandwagon fan into its space.
Before I say anything, I'm saying, hey, guys, I haven't been here very long.
Here's my opinion.
Hey, guys.
Here's the space.
Yes.
Exactly.
Exactly.
I'm like, hey, brand new.
Yeah.
Just born.
Literally, I was born yesterday, but I still have a little opinion.
Let me know if I'm wrong.
That's kind of my vibe.
Because but then if it's like my fandom, like I'm a D.C. sports girl down.
Yeah.
And I want everyone to be a D.C. sports girl.
But don't come into the space with the wrong opinion or else I'm going to be upset.
Yeah.
Similarly with all of women's sports.
I think it's nice to be mindful of why you're invited to the section.
Right.
Like you have to enter with a little bit of class and grace.
Right.
As someone who I'm a bandwagon fan about anything.
Well, it's hard.
Open mind.
There's a lot of people who are like on Twitter and they're like, um, so I just got into the
WNBA and I just got to say my favorite character is Sophie Cunningham.
And it's like, hey, you don't have to tell me you just got into it.
I know because your favorite character, character is crazy.
But honestly, that's how they're saying her character.
My favorite player is Sophie Cunningham.
Like, yeah, we know you just started.
Character, I would say, is lacking.
The character is lacking.
The character is lacking in the stream.
Can we go like origin story?
Like, what is your lore with sports?
Like, what did you grow up playing and what made you love it?
Yeah, I grew up playing soccer.
So I like lived abroad as a child.
So I lived in Germany.
I played on an all boys German soccer team.
Got my feelings hurt.
They didn't like me, but it made me stronger as
Kelly Clarkson would say.
And so that was like, really great.
That was Jackie's version.
I was like, what song was that?
I kind of got there at the very end.
You did.
I bet you found it.
You went Katy Perry through it.
Yeah, I heard that.
I heard that a little bit.
And one thing about me is I love Katy Perry.
Not to do a complete side tangent, but she wants to do 72 hour.
You're a Katy cat?
No, I wouldn't say that.
Because I, because I just watched her 72 hour live stream.
At the Twitter office?
Oh, people forget.
And I didn't.
And I never will.
And I never will.
With DeRay McKesson.
It was insane.
It was the dinner party.
The dinner party.
Was that COVID or pre-COVID?
On the side.
It was pre-COVID.
That was pre-COVID.
That's such a COVID thing to do.
And ever since then, I was like, I made a fan account for her dog Nugget, Perry, who was
on the live stream.
Like, I was really into it.
Why did I bring this up?
Anyway, I was a big Nugget fan.
Yes.
Of Katy.
But I knew my space and I knew I'm actually the first fan of Nugget.
So I deserve to make this account.
Anyway, grew up playing soccer.
Totally found it.
Yep.
Yep.
Got there.
Loved it.
I loved the US Women's National Soccer team.
They were so gay.
I was like, wait, I think this is awesome.
And then moved to Columbia, South Carolina, where like, Aja Wilson grew up and Dawn Staley
came to my high school's basketball games.
I wasn't playing, but I was watching and loving it.
And rode crew in college.
And now I asked her, like, is she gay or does she just coach women's basketball?
I made a video about that.
Yeah.
And now we're here.
That's pretty much it.
And now we're here.
Yeah.
That's the story.
Wow.
It's about asking important questions will take you far.
Right?
I've always said that.
I've always said that, actually.
I want to know about you and basketball.
What is. What makes you passionate about basketball specifically, since we're here at the Liberty HQ?
We are here.
Well, basketball is so gay.
And it's. Right.
It's so. It's like the most, like, interesting, like, the energy to me, because I'm a soccer person.
Soccer is like, it's outside.
It's a different vibe.
Basketball is so insular.
Like, we're all here.
I love that part of it.
I love the performance of it.
I love how, like, intimate it is.
So that's huge for me.
And also, it's exciting.
It's like, it's a really exciting game.
And I love, I love the thrill of it.
But yeah, the gay part is really a huge, huge. Huge pillar for me in the basketball world.
It's funny that my parents didn't realize I was gay when, like, I was like, oh, I want
to play football and basketball.
And, like, when I'm on, like, lines under. For basketball.
Why do I have, like, lines under my. Because it makes you feel cool.
Because I'm mysterious?
Because I was point?
Yeah.
I used to. I used to do, like, I would be. I can do it because I have a shirt on.
I would be, like, sweating during a soccer game, and there'd be, like, a pretty girl
next to me, and I'd be like, hey, girl.
Oh, that's a good move.
I'm going to use that tomorrow.
Yeah.
I loved doing that.
That's good.
I'm doing that, yeah.
Oh, me taking notes?
I'm like, okay.
That's good.
Use that in your rec league.
Okay, so men also play basketball.
Yeah, regrettably.
Shocks me.
Shout out to the MNBA.
Yeah.
We love their work.
Except for one man, Shaquille O'Neal.
What's going on there?
Because he's always in your comments.
Your beef with Shaq is crazy.
I don't like it.
I don't like it.
Sometimes I think to myself, like, maybe I'm the one continuing the Shaq beef.
No.
Like, maybe I'm, like, me bringing it up is what keeps it going, but then I'll do something
and he's there again.
You know what I mean?
He's commenting again.
And I want to let y'all know that he has told me, love your work before, but he continues
to diss me, diss me, diss me.
Wait, have you met him?
Just like a man to lie.
No.
Oh, what?
No.
I've never met him.
I need to see you two in a room.
I don't want to meet him.
I don't really.
It's not, like, silly to me.
No much about, I mean, obviously I know Shaq, but after his days in the Lakers, besides
getting beat by Aaron Carter, RIP, it's like, I stopped keeping up immediately.
Except for the Angel Reese podcast, though.
Yes.
Talking about her in that podcast.
Yes.
And he was like, y'all should dunk in booty shorts and like, and that's supposed to be
like his mentee.
So that's the real, real of that.
The real, real shadow.
Who else are you beefing with online?
Name them.
To each camera.
Derek Hough.
Jojo Siwa.
Wait, wait.
Derek Hough is a huge one for me, though.
Derek, Derek knows.
And he knows.
Last night.
And he knows.
I love it.
No, he does know because hate earned your heart.
I love it.
I, I, so I would do like reviews of Dancing with the Stars.
Yeah.
And Derek does this thing, like if the camera is like here and like there's some of the
so it's like we're doing
Derek will lean his head
into the frame
to like
The camera's not on him,
but he's leaning his head into the frame.
And he knows I hate it.
Because he knows I hate it.
This one's for Jackie.
Well, you say that, okay?
So last night in my review of the show,
I ended it with,
Derek, I know you're trying to rattle me,
and I'm not going to take the bait.
And he commented,
it's all for you.
Wait.
With a heart.
So is there something beautiful brewing here, then?
You might have a roster of reply guys.
And I do, right?
Why is it Jack, Derek Huff?
Right, why is it men?
Like, I wish there were, like, women.
Like, do you think with, like, a hot lady,
like, that'd be kind of fun?
But no, it's, like, these fellas.
Yeah, but the Derek Huff beef
could only end one way,
and that's all I'll say.
And Jackie's coming to Dancing with the Stars
next season.
That's all I'll say.
That's all I'll say.
Okay, we mentioned this earlier.
Sophie Cunningham, PU, stinks.
Yeah, stinky.
What is the latest with her?
She had the podcast.
I don't know.
I'm like,
well, I'm not keeping up
with Sophie Cunningham.
I don't care what's the latest with her.
She has a new podcast now
that she started with someone else.
Yes.
I didn't know it was so easy
to start a podcast.
Trust, we're doing this.
I thought it took some time.
Turns out, no,
if you're Sophie Cunningham,
they give you mics for free
because they want to hear
your trash takes.
So what's the latest with her?
I don't care.
There was something
that I thought was so,
I've never reposted a video so fast
when I saw outside of this,
a very Barclays Center, by the way,
where people were being asked,
were like only wanting women.
Oh, of course.
If they've watched any women's sports
or know any players or anything.
Yeah, being like,
which are your five favorite
basketball players,
women basketball players?
And they could only name
Kaylin Clark and Sophie Cunningham.
That's correct.
That's so weird.
I did that outside of the Supreme Court
when they were like deciding
about trans athletes' rights.
Yeah.
And I went to the other side
and I asked them all.
I got so many people to my face.
I don't watch women's sports
holding a sign that says
protect women's sports
or being like,
the only person they could name
was like Riley Gaines.
You know, the swimmer
who got tied for fifth
and she's still tied for fifth.
But I think it's just so funny
and so comical that I'm like,
why are you in our business
if you don't even go here?
You don't even go to this school.
Correct.
It's so interesting.
And I think like, you know,
Sophie Cunningham bringing this up.
We were talking,
we had an earlier episode
about Wes Wilson who had made like,
But you know someone's bad
when Wes is like,
ugh, she's, ugh, I'm not a nut.
What I mean was like,
this is such a minor issue
and you are targeting people.
It's not a minor issue at all.
You're targeting people
who are already at risk.
Yeah.
It's weird.
It's just,
but also he didn't have
that same energy.
I was like, tag her in this
if you're really down with it.
Well, you know what I will say?
I made a video once
like recently breaking down
a lot of like,
because I'm always with the facts
and the whatever about it.
And Cindy Colson top comment was like,
hey, they don't,
they're not smart.
They don't listen.
I just do bullying.
And I was like,
I just work in bullying.
Cindy, bring back bullying.
You're right.
Because we should just call them
what they are.
Weirdos.
Stop being so weird, you freaks.
Yeah.
Loser.
Loser like me.
And she's thin.
We got a Gleek in the house,
by the way.
We should have led with that.
That's a bonus episode.
I was talking about Gleek.
Oh my God.
My last question.
Favorite sports movie.
Can I do three?
Yeah.
Fine.
You make the rules.
High school musical one.
High school musical two.
Oh shit.
High school musical three,
senior year.
The classics.
Okay.
That's,
they just left.
Wait, I can't go back.
And that's feminine.
No, nothing more athletic
has ever happened here.
That's what it looks like.
Yeah, you can't do better than that.
I didn't think I would go so far.
I'm sorry.
I wish they had,
those had women playing sports in them.
But, you know,
she's the man I love.
But no, you gotta,
the top three.
Oh, that's a good one.
Bend it like Beckham,
another classic.
Yeah.
Love and basketball.
Love and basketball.
I was waiting for that one.
Yeah.
Look at the Irish.
That was a boy.
Wait, what's your,
what's your favorite basketball movie?
Oh.
Or sports movie?
Challengers.
Or,
Challengers is fun.
Or the baseball movie?
Yes.
That's awesome.
Two explanation points
by Richard Lee later.
Oh, interesting.
Love.
My favorite basketball movie,
of course,
is the real lesbian basketball movie,
which is not Love and Basketball,
and it's not double teamed.
I'm curious.
It's like Mike.
It's like Mike, everyone.
We've got a roaring applause
in the background.
I was just gonna say.
I was being told to be silent on set.
I was like,
lesbians are hyping this up
in the background.
Lesbians are going crazy.
POV or the Liberty Arena.
These lesbians are going crazy tonight.
Did you see that?
Speaking of the transphobes,
did you see that?
Once again,
Riley Gaines was on Fox News
after going to one Minnesota game,
and she was like,
just as I expected,
an arena full of lesbians
doing their lesbian stuff.
I was like,
glowing review, actually.
Yeah.
Glowing review.
Just as I expected.
Crazy to say.
Okay.
And we want to ask you,
what would your tunnel walkout song be?
Oh, I know exactly the answer.
Okay.
It would be the main theme
from Princess Diaries.
Ooh.
It's kind of like
a one minute, 20 second
orchestral piece
and it was my top song in 2021
and I love it.
It says a lot about how
I like to enter a room with it playing
because it's very regal
and you kind of think like,
is that Mia Thermopolis?
No, it's Jackie.
You know?
It's Coach Jackie.
It's Coach Jackie.
I'm actually always thinking that.
Yeah.
So you were expecting me
to say something cooler.
No.
No, that was cool AF.
That was cool AF.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Same question to you.
What would you hit?
I would probably walk out to
Hot in Here,
but I would like
have my friend Alex Chapman
like,
remix it.
So it was just like
very specifically like
gay,
come out.
I'm maybe in something like this.
I do Jackie's move
and I wipe my sweat off.
It's just take off
all your clothes
over and over again.
No, it's like
it's getting
it's getting hot in here.
You know, it'd be like
it'd be like Super Bowl.
It'd be like Super Bowl performance.
You know?
I have a plan.
I'm in with a plan.
I wish Ellie was here to see that.
I know.
I think she would like it.
Okay, Hunter,
what was your walkout song
beat?
Okay, well, you've seen my
you've been sharing my screen
when I have my Spotify
old
old soul classics
playlist of
a little song called
Outstanding
by the Gap Band.
So I am about 67 years old
and I love it.
I'm loving it.
You actually run it down that time.
70
some days.
But she hasn't eaten 70.
Oh, my God.
What is the dance crew called?
The Stompers.
The Stompers.
What are they called?
The Torch?
The Timeless Torches.
No, the Stompers are Ellie's
The Timeless Torches.
Sorry, New York City
is not my culture.
Just to be clear,
I'm a D.C. down girl.
But we love a bandwagon fan
here.
I'm not a fan of the Liberty.
I'm a D.C. down girl.
I was like,
you are crazy.
Y'all know I'm D.C. down.
I love a D.M.V. baddie.
I do.
I'm with you.
Okay, Peyton,
what is the one piece
in your closet
that you reach for
again and again?
Oh, easy.
It's a sweater
that somehow works
with it.
It works with everything.
The one you know
will always fit just right.
For me, lately,
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Same here.
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Okay, I know this is your show,
but I want to play a little game.
My show is called
Is She Game?
We're going to have, like,
fun games for all the guests
that are unique to them.
And so since we're here
at the Liberty Arena,
I thought we could play a game
called Celebrity Row,
where I am going to tell you
two celebrities, okay?
And you have just been gifted
with a game called
one ticket to Celebrity Row,
but you have to kick
one of the celebrities out
to sit there.
So you're going to be choosing
one who you're going to kick out
and the other person
is who you're going to sit next to
the whole game.
Does that make sense?
Got it.
So it's just two.
I love a game.
Okay, here we go.
Just tell me who you would boot
who you're sitting next to.
Hailey and Justin Bieber.
Booting Hailey.
Whoa.
It hurts me to say that.
It hurts me.
My sister, I don't mean it.
I don't want to boot any of them.
I'm going to sit on
Justin Bieber's lap.
I'll allow it.
We'll work it out on the remix.
I'll allow it one time.
Okay, fine.
Fine.
You know she goes
with that one all the time.
Oh, yeah.
Sitting on the lap.
And it works out.
Sitting across both their laps.
And it works out.
Glennon Doyle and Abby Wambach.
Oh, I got to keep with Glennon.
I got to keep.
But yeah, I'm booting Abby,
I think.
Wow.
Because all Abby does
on that podcast is. Yes.
Yes.
Yes, sister.
But that's someone who knows
to agree with her wife.
True.
Timmy C and Kylie.
Oh, booting Kylie.
Whoa.
I thought for sure,
like when I was writing these,
I was like,
obviously all the straight
couples, you kick out the man.
I have one question
about Marty Supremes
I need him to answer.
What?
Which is what?
It's secret.
Okay.
Secret.
Got it.
Got it.
So if this happens,
like then I'll be able to ask it.
Okay, perfect.
I guess I would get rid of him
because he's local to me.
Yeah, yeah.
He's around.
Kylie, it's like,
I kind of want to queen out
with her like once.
Because I feel like Kylie could
answer the Timothee questions.
But is Timothee answering
Kylie questions?
Let's be for real.
No, I think he's kind of
wife guy down.
I think he would.
I think he would.
All right.
Sincere and KC.
Myself.
I'm looting myself out of here.
And I'm with her.
Yeah.
We walk together.
Y'all leave.
The whole stadium walks out.
You're like,
it's like
okay come on everyone
in an orderly fashion
actually I'm so lying
KC get up out of there
Sincere and I
need alone time
to do what?
Sincere is
listen I might be gay
but I'm what?
a 3D curl lover
not blind
no
because Sincere is fine
he's beautiful
that's a beautiful man
that's a man made in God's image
but he just acts like the devil
he's an athlete too
what are you guys talking about?
Sincere is beautiful
not me
not me
I said I would go
I would
I said
okay on director's cut
I'm a stay
I'm a stick beside him
alright
and I'm just gonna have to be like
this isn't my podcast right?
so I have to just
kind of go with it
I get you girl
Alicia Keys and Ciara
it's like I want to answer this
as a friend
and then as a lover
do you know what I mean?
I would take out Ciara
because I have questions
about Diary of Alicia Keys
that's one of my favorite albums
and so we need to talk about it
yeah
I love that I'm like
who am I gonna date?
and Hunter's like
who will I interview?
and that's our dynamic
um
who are you dating?
let's just do lover
who
Alicia Keys, Ciara
you're saying Russell Wilson
eat my shorts
absolutely
alright
eat my lesbian long shorts
that go to my knees
but then Alicia Keys
in that one photo
when she was a teen
you know the one
that one photo
right
yeah Alicia Keys
only ever been beautiful
one time
Will Ferrell and Adam Sandler
I need to see Will
oh
I'm mooting Adam Sandler
because I want to know
the background story
of why Will Ferrell
and Adam McKay
fell out
oh that's interesting
that's interesting
gossip girl
okay
Questlove and Spike Lee
vooting Questlove
absolutely
not even a question
Taylor Swift and Selena Gomez
famous best friends
I always keep an eye out
for Selena
yeah
and you must
and I'm gonna see that eye
right out of the arena
so yeah
so I'll have to give up her seat
oh
so you want to sit next to Tay
yeah
I don't call her that
I just say Taylor Swift
I'm not a Swifty
no
I think because we have to
keep an eye out for Selena
I kick Taylor Swift out
I sit next to Selena
because I don't want to
get on her bad side
she might post an Instagram
story about me
that's true
you might make her
leave Instagram again
could you imagine
for another 12 hours
she takes a brief
hour break
right back after this commercial
okay
last one
Zoe Kravitz and Harry Styles
I'm sitting next to
Zoe Kravitz
for personal
private
and hopefully
futurely public reasons
real
real
I would be sitting next to
yeah
for Zoe
for sure
it's like looking in a mirror
some people say
wow
beautiful
well thank you guys so much
for playing my game
this is a fun ad for my show
I love it
listen to my show
after playing this game
did we win?
would you say ethically
like did we win?
I think
or choose a winner
I always say there's always
a right answer
and I would say
I really appreciated
Hunter's kind of
commitment to professionalism
oh
I never promised
professionalism though
well secretly the point
of the game
my arms are out
secretly the point of the game
was actually politeness
oh
yeah
so you lost
you lost with your endeavor
to kind of break marriages up
and things like that
every marriage can be broken
that's called drive
by the way
that's called
initiative
yeah
oh
okay
diva's a diva
okay speaking of celebrities
we legally have to talk about
one of our faves
honestly diva nomination
I'm going to say diva winner
diva winner
diva top billing
diva listed
to nominate feels rude
to her and the other divas
because it's like
well I know I'm not winning
it's a hot button top
they're in good company
let me say this
well
for some
for Ariana Grande specifically
some people had a red dot
on their forehead for too long
but we have to talk about
Ellie
the double E
elephant
I love
and her stompers
you know she
kissed me on the forehead once
well she kissed me
on the cheek once
I knew you had an aura about you
I knew you had a certain glow
no it's no big deal
she actually
she grabbed my left titty
too
whoa
yeah
so I said Ellie
I'm worried about
you putting that online
I've never met Ellie
because one time
we came to Liberty Game
and someone left me behind
love wins
and love is fast
you gotta say
you gotta get quick
I ran track in high school
there was Peyton
she ran off to meet Ellie
I said so where was I
that's so crazy
so you've never
you've never met her
I've never met her
what would you do if you did
I would bow
wow
that feels right
I would bow
yeah
I would tip my hat to her
you're a lady
what
do we think that Ellie is
like do you have any other mascots
you think could rival her
in the sports world
well I actually think
if we're talking about
Liberty and Herstory
they just brought back
the OG Liberty mascot
which is the dog
what's her name
Maddie
thank you period
we have local lesbians
in the house
they know what to do
I'm getting
I'm hearing Maddie
okay
Maddie is the OG
yes
Maddie
I didn't ask
how anyone identified
I'm sorry
but Maddie's the OG mascot
and they brought her back
and now she comes to the games
what kind of dog is Maddie
Lab
yeah
I don't
I would agree
I don't know
just kind of
but I will say
I want them to put the mask
back in mascot
I think that
like Ellie started a trend
of like the femcot
but let's get the mascot back
you know what I mean
toxic mascot
there is like one
like non-binary mascot
for the tempo
that I'm all about that
is it a musical
what is it
a musical
no
what is it
what do you mean
Toronto tempo
is like
it's like the speed
of the game
and it's the fast pace
of the city
Toronto
I thought it was like
the fast pace
of the city
Toronto
yes
that is
that is what the PR thing said
sharing your big tail
we're going to Toronto
yeah exactly
and did by the way
it's like
we're going to fake New York City
we're filming a Hallmark movie
we're doing it all
what are y'all's favorite
Ellie moments
oh
her
Beyonce
whenever she does Beyonce
her Beyonce medley
now that
the renaissance medley
oh she took that
she went in there
I don't know if I'm even allowed
to say this
but
oh wait I am
this episode will come out
after this
but what we just saw
we got a preview
of what's happening tonight
yeah
privilege
I'll say it's
either that moment
or
we'd say it
because they're going to know
oh oh
the Mariah Carey medley
it was just
so that's an artist
she did the artist way
Ellie the elephant
did the artist way
and I'm certain of it
she's doing her morning pages
and you know
Ellie puts more into her shows
than actual pop stars
do into their shows
100%
we just saw it
we saw the work
doing the work
yeah
I loved when she was
twerking in front of
Hillary Clinton
and what do you mean by that
no I'm joking
she was
she was
stomp
stomping
stomping
um
yeah that's my woman
that's
that's my wife
my life
yeah
it's also nice because
she does
she gives a kiss with the trunk
but she sings with the mouth
so it's kind of like
hey what's going on
and she loves a pump
I love that about her
she loves a pump
a woman not afraid of a fierce pump
I also will say
when we
kissed for the first time
yeah
her touch is so gentle
yeah
I'm being so serious right now
no I know
like she's very caring
you know what I feel
when I'm interacting with Ellie
you know when you
go to your first
drag show
and like the drag queen
like caresses your cheek
and you're like
I'm gay for you
in a real lesbian way
you know
that's why I've been chosen
yeah
it's kind of being knighted
yeah exactly
that's the equivalent
it's like I'm feeling
confusing feelings about you
mama
that's how I feel
when Ellie kind of walks past
does she have like
a maternal energy to you
think
like is she
sort of like mama bear
auntie energy
okay yeah
like don't run in my house
but you can come over
and we can have brunch
I'd say it's conflicting
if that's maternal energy
because you know what I mean
she's a little too sexy
yeah I think so too
and moms can't be sexy
not my mama
as a sexy single mom
I can say that
I'm saying not my mother to me
legally just yours can't be
a real mother
but a MILF
sure
maybe
y'all
y'all
y'all
this is real
y'all
I'm speechless
it's not good for a podcast
to be speechless
there's no way
Ellie do you want my seat
Ellie take my seat
please
she said girl get up
she said girl get up again
oh
took that seat
my stomach hurts
hi
hello
hey
hi
how are you doing
I love you
um so we are obviously joined by Ellie the elephant
the elephant herself
Ellie how are you how are you doing today
oh wow
oh hair is laid
oh diva
she said she said the lights too bright
can we get the light the house lights down please sorry
hey can everyone just play it cool
I feel like everyone's just kind of freaking out right
we're playing you some water
do we have any water do we
yes all right I want to make sure you're hydrated
yeah yeah yeah yeah
you're good
we have some questions for you
um first of all I want to make sure you're hydrated
first of all good job tonight
oh my goodness
what a show
what a performance
I the emancipation
diva can I call you diva
legally yes that's your government name
yeah that's true
um we're gonna go and ask you some quick questions if that's okay
do you have a
oh my goodness
I was wondering if you would give me a kiss on the cheek
these are yes or no questions girl
yes or no
um
oh oh
lovely
I brought myself
I brought myself a kiss
I brought myself to her
okay my question Ellie is
are the Liberty gonna get a W tonight
oh yes
it's a pensive yes
so it comes out later
yep
um
I'm Peyton by the way
hi oh that's
I get that
um Ellie
are you single or
or
isn't that all the time we have
I could be single
wait I see you have some chocolate
so Godiva
are you mentoring her
is that
is that why
hmm
this is Godiva
exactly
I don't even like chocolate
don't hold it against me
so we love a reference
yes
of course
we were told you only had limited time with us
and we want to make every
hour
count
oh
Ellie for everyone
a Godiva
- Can I help you?
Well, yes.
We have to get it done however we can.
And that's the power of an acrylic.
Wow.
And can we get a close-up on this?
None for me, none for me.
Oh, I'll take. She'll take it all.
She'll take everything.
I'll take one.
Yeah, thank you, Ellie.
Thank you, Ellie the elephant.
You're so caring and kind.
Hey, I always full name it for you.
Ellie the elephant.
Thank you, Ms. Elephant.
The emancipation of Ellie.
Period.
See, we go together.
That's what I'm trying to say, by the way.
Oh, all right.
Thank you for blessing us.
Oh, my God.
Wow, you didn't have to ask for it.
Did you hear that?
Yeah.
The lady.
Yo, I have a stomach ache.
So that just happened.
My tummy hurts for real.
That chocolate was really disgusting, but. Is she game October 9th?
October 9th.
Be there.
Be there.
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Podcast Summary
Key Points:
Coach Jackie celebrates her new podcast *Is She Game?* with Higher Ground and Run Amok, set to launch on October 9th, focusing on women's sports and pop culture.
She openly embraces her "hater" persona as a sign of high standards, using sharp critiques to highlight issues in sports and culture, while maintaining a joyful and passionate heart.
Jackie critiques gatekeeping in fandoms and emphasizes the importance of community, inclusivity, and open-mindedness, especially in women’s sports.
She shares her personal journey from playing soccer abroad to becoming a passionate fan of women’s basketball, highlighting the emotional and cultural significance of the game.
Jackie expresses strong opinions about pop culture figures, including beefs with Shaq, Derek Hough, and Sophie Cunningham, while advocating for more inclusive and authentic representation.
She highlights the lack of diversity in women’s sports media, noting that many fans only name a few players like Kaylin Clark or Sophie Cunningham, showing a troubling lack of awareness.
The live event at Barclays Center features a celebration of lesbian voices, community, and intersectionality, with fans engaging in playful, politicized humor about gender, fandom, and sports.
Ellie the Elephant is celebrated as a cultural icon, embodying artistic dedication and fierce energy, with fans citing her performances—like stomping and kissing—as powerful and authentic expressions of femininity and joy.
Summary:
*, launching October 9th. She blends sharp critiques with heartfelt passion, using her "hater" persona to spotlight gatekeeping, misrepresentation, and the lack of diversity in women’s sports fandom. C.
basketball—grounds her advocacy in lived experience. She calls out key figures like Sophie Cunningham and Shaquille O’Neal, while expressing concern over transphobic rhetoric and the limited visibility of women athletes. The event features playful banter, celebrity games, and a strong emphasis on community, inclusivity, and authentic connection.
A central figure, Ellie the Elephant, is celebrated for her bold, artistic performances—like stomping and kissing—that embody fierce, joyful femininity. The conversation underscores the need for greater representation, empathy, and joy in sports culture, positioning Jackie and her team as both fierce advocates and joyful community leaders.
FAQs
Coach Jackie has launched a new podcast called 'Is She Game?' with Higher Ground and Run Amok, focusing on women's sports and pop culture, set to release on October 9th.
Coach Jackie says she considers herself a 'hater' because she has high standards and is critical of things she doesn't like, which she believes shows her taste and integrity.
Coach Jackie's favorite sports movie is 'Love and Basketball,' though she jokes that it's not truly a lesbian basketball movie and that real lesbian basketball films are rare.
Ellie the Elephant is a charismatic mascot and performer known for her energetic shows, including a famous stomp during a live appearance, and she is celebrated for her dedication and artistry.
Coach Jackie believes fandom is a community and warns against gatekeeping, emphasizing that new fans should be welcomed with openness and respect, even if they have limited experience.
Coach Jackie's walkout song is the main theme from 'Princess Diaries,' which she says is regal and fits her entry style, while Hunter prefers 'Outstanding' by the Gap Band.
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