Is Love Island Ruined? | 62

our hot new bombshells have left the villa we're not free not yet and i'm i love it what can i say i love chaos i and this is chaotic i'm starting to get scared i'm holding my purse a little bit closer when i open twitter.com not only twitter girl instagram instagram reddit okay so we there's a lot to catch up on regarding love island season usa season seven yeah um you thought the drama would stop when they left the villa oh no no no we just getting started it's turned up to i would say a 12 yeah maybe even a 19 sure i where to begin where to begin i think the latest and the greatest it's monday when we're recording i wish we were recording after the kiki palmer interview oh yeah we'll get that tonight but kiki palmer has our sisters shelly and alandria on the show our tethers if you will um yeah they're the most beautiful one i've ever seen in my entire life and that's what i'm hoping to manifest for us i know i know i'm like no i'll take it i'll i'll take that at 31 we're hoping that things change i'm actually 30 um but anyway first thing that we have to talk about the latest as of monday morning is um sierra sierra posted and i quote it was like a video of her like dancing in a bikini um the caption was you look happier and then she says thanks i booked a flight to mykonos after surviving the villain edit on a reality tv show i didn't end up with a guy who never actually liked me and wanted my friend the entire time come on with that run-on sentence she has a testimony today she's been through some stuff i saw that and i literally like when i when i saw that it was posted like you know 10 minutes before i screenshot immediately like i need to tell every single person i've ever met about this sierra has broken her silence on nicolandria wait i have an important question do you follow them on instagram or any social media i follow the ones that i like oh i like for my own mental health i cannot follow them yeah i mean i and we'll see it you know yeah every other social media but i gotta i gotta follow my girls i have to follow shelly and alandria of course get them i followed sierra because i wanted to see what she would say after her removal and let's see that shirt that you're wearing messy messy just like do we have it on every oh totally totally just a close crop of that no no oh my god i okay well the thing that so many things made me go oh and i called ace and nick of course too this oh okay ally to men um to leo's oh right he's a leo i forgot nick is a leo too no oh okay wait okay back to sierra yes i feel like so many things brought pause to my little noggin over here one the villain edit where yeah yeah i was like because pans to huda don't erase her okay so who do you think actually got the villain edit on love island season seven i'm gonna shake the table villain edits came for shelly and for ace they both because why is it that people did not believe in black love until damn near they went to the hideaway we're about to leave and then people are like oh they're so cute together oh listen realize realized it all along and it was only and i didn't like the way too that they were like really um kept kind of like uh harping on um shelly talking to huda about chris because in that scene if you watch it closely as an emotionally intelligent adult you can see that shelly is like a little bit hesitant but like yeah girl go ahead yeah and she did not really mean that okay well most people watching love island usa i have to come clean and say are not emotionally intelligent adults they might be adults okay you got me there i got you got me there but i i love your full eyes clear heart can't lose clear wait but i love your clear eyes full heart can't can't lose and did but and did lose yeah a few times because and i don't think that huda got a villain edit either because first of all she stayed in the house for damn forever yeah and also they did show a lot of her like they had a lot of her scenes like explaining herself which is mostly just repeating herself which calling a spade a spade but i think that she had a lot of chances to like talk through what she was thinking and shelly and the talking heads and the confessionals really didn't who did you think got the villain edit the real villain of love island usa season seven is all of us okay pan to the viewers i did not know mental illness was this pervasive in this country oh even now it's one thing to respond to the way these again like their brains are still developing they are people that are on a reality dating tv show where most of the challenges are just dry humping and making out let's remember that before we hold people to the fire shall we but the way that people are reacting and responding even now has me scared yeah i'm scared raise your hand if you're scared here huda hq i'm afraid huda hq now nickel andrea hq let me tell you i'm a card carrying member i pay taxes there actually i own property there yeah yeah but even that community is starting to scare me a little bit when i'm seeing countless threads or that are just um here's a breakdown of what happened in nickel andrea's live stream and it's like tweets oh we've got to get jobs we've got to start getting careers i'm sorry that is a job that is a career these are people who have boots on the ground was did i not leave a concert go no i left a movie went home was in my bed like the sarah paulson meme literally on my side phone illuminating my face and i was watching nick on tiktok live 30 years old and i'm watching nick don't even know his last name on tiktok live talking about whatever and the way that he like the way that he like cradles her as she's like laying on the ground and she's like on top of him i'm like oh my gosh may that love find me i have to be clear that i i did scroll through all 45 like i'm part of the problem you had to you had to and the people who did all that work i'll say on the ground reporting i'll say war correspondent i appreciate their labor because i don't want to really watch you know like a video of it i don't want to be able to scroll through and kind of spend time on the parts that i need more clarification highlights did you watch the um disneyland edit of course i did of nick and which one did you like more nick and alandria's or shelly and aces i love the eraser of the eraser of uh taylor and clark because i i did check after i saw because what whose was posted first ace i don't know that i think ace and shelly's was posted first okay and then i saw nick and alandria's posted second and then i saw i don't know actually when taylor's was posted but i was like it would be so funny if they just didn't give taylor the camera crew but they did they did they had to that's because male friendship is so low effort in those states um but i want to go back to that um to sierra for a minute can we yes because i think that if you read between the lines a key part of this what i read in this text i didn't end up with a guy who i didn't end up with a guy who actually never liked me and wanted my friend the entire time uh nick landria confirmed oh and it's and it's fake show me fake show me fake because the other woman says it's real it's real to sierra so it's real to me honey when nick and alandria were on tiktok live and they were getting called fake as couple and alandria said and yet look at you yep here are my comments yep paying my rent yep curious yep uh no twitter you did your big one it's it's hard to root for swirl twitter and swirl tiktok right now i don't consider nick and alandria a part of this world community i consider them something higher oh i don't know what but i'll also go back to it are we giving nick a blackout i'm no i'm not doing that wait but i am pivoting we can always come back to whatever we're going to talk about but i have to pivot to talk about the crazy scary video of the casa boys the gossip speaking speaking of people wanting applying for a black card and getting denied well first of all okay so the casa boys plus and then some recorded a video with the caption of them dancing with the caption that's like are we invited to the cookout so there were black people in it so i was like okay self-hate okay teeth teeth is all self-hate and you know who i'm talking about too the one what is his name jd i don't know but he's the one who's like hoda was like um that challenge was crazy he's like oh he's like you're too dominant oh yeah yeah his teeth are really like he's very forward he walked into a room teeth first oh oh he doesn't wait what that might that remind me of maggot teeth oh maybe he has maggot teeth because he's in this video thinking he might be maggot teeth he cannot catch a vibe to save his life i've seen many of their because they're all singing an airbnb together i've seen many of their videos together and he's always the one that i'm like how is zach with a c who had not even two lines on the damn show eating you up in oh my god i forgot about white zach yeah zach with a k how's he doing for you i i think talk about didn't get a villain out of it but should have is the real villain in the house is zach with a k because first of all i thought he was the most handsome of the casa boys he's so hot with the bandana on but yes i think even with a little with a little little bang turf bang with his little bangs turf bangs be fucking for real the turf banks fit the attitude they did they do warning sign because no it really was because why are you first of all he switched up on alandria quickly dumped her out of casa but listen all in god's plan it all worked out in the end i'm not gonna hold a grudge then he switched up on amaya yep once he's at the 100k in his clutches he switched up on her then he tried to switch up switch back on her and like get back with her cozy up she saw right through it thank god then after everything he's like talking about something he didn't even see in the house himself he's like on his life he was the first boy to get off the house and go go on to lives and start like all this stuff i'm like who gives a fuck about your exit interview no you're on the episode you were literally there for like three days i love when his mouth is um shut he had so much potential before he spoke he should be seen and not heard for sure for sure like many men like most i'll i'll say except for if you know who you are oh you know who i'm thinking yeah i do dm me and i'll tell you and his name is ace and he's a leo paid for hair toes nails and clacky no you being off book on this little jam of course i am if you if you only saw me and remy my dog i said remy come on girl we just woke up from a nap come on let's get in this tiktok together i will say there is a photo i have no idea what it's from of nick alandria shelly and ace and when i tell you they look like the the photo was from the wnba all-stars game and their trophy wives i swear to god i was like these little stud lesbians are killing me and nick and i guess i'm giving him a black card fine he could be a stud too wow they looked fucking crazy studs studs can be white can't they oh no that's for black lesbians only wait learn something new every day thank you thank you for educating me i'm gonna throw you on that world raw see what happens speaking of holding a little bit of space a little bit of space for nick being one of the biggest baddies stands in north america named he said oh natalie nunn he said oh yeah i'm off book i know these girls he said he watches baddies um he's like i haven't watched baddies uk yet but like i'm on baddies which one is it i don't even know like you see how big i'm smiling i can't remember the name i just love i just love nick what can i say it's really it's it's shockingly organic what do you mean like he is i mean i guess he's from florida yeah he's from jacksonville and listen it was in this in this very studio that you and devon tried to tell me oh whatever whatever i'm like he's off book on every baddie on baddies and you think he's faking it and you think he doesn't love a black woman please that was never me that said that well and let me tell you i was going through our tiktok comments last night about to go back to every single person oh they're not gonna last two weeks okay well okay well let's ask the audience no i will say they converted a lot of they were haters okay there are people that didn't believe in the nickel andrea they tried to bury us but guess what i'm a seed and a weed oh i'm gonna grow wherever okay that's weird but i like that for you i think we have to dream bigger but i like that for you we teach girls to shrink themselves don't do that to make themselves don't bring her in this room speaking of someone who's not shrinking herself who um miss alex cooper she had both amaya yeah on call her daddy and huda on call her daddy for sure did you watch them uh i watched hudas i didn't watch amaya's yeah i figured out whatever happened someone would tell me that's fair yeah i feel like the only takeaway from amaya's is that she thought that um euphoria boy uh jacob alorti as nate and euphoria was hot and that made me really nervous for my sister but that's spooky yeah that's spooky scary but we all have our vices hopefully not that one though yeah that's spooky yeah um i didn't watch hudas in full and i was very moved about her talking about the history of domestic violence in her house her like troubled upbringing um and then we started talking about the love island stuff and i was like and i'm back out huh interesting i remember it differently actually that's funny the things that that woman does with history her story if you will yeah so interesting well i i think okay the biggest thing to come out of that interview was that right after it aired i guess shelly had unfollowed her yeah and they'd maybe blocked each other unfollowed each other um which i was like interesting because i don't know why like we're so still stuck on the um huda chris shelly love triangle for how much it does not matter in the big scheme of things right like huda really still says like oh i brought chris back to the villa for or back yeah back to the main villa for all of us and i was like okay you can like repeat that a lot yeah but just say that you brought him back for yourself like what that's like not a bad thing it's love island yes and if shelly had an attitude about it that she was totally within her rights to that's fine yeah but just the continuously saying again and again no it was for all of us like i don't know and again we talked about this a little bit before about how like the girl's girl kind of there is no girl's girl except for maya the litmus test of like and not even amaya really i well no i think amaya i think the amaya was the only girl that really took on conflict in a real way in that villa in a real way not like in a yes and not like in a like putting your feelings aside or talking to everyone else but directly to the person amaya was the only one that like addressed huda's behavior like a lot of girls co-signed it i will say for a long time yeah and i feel because now like huda has this whole thing about how shelly was like bullying her the entire time in the house like people were sharing edits of like something um huda's working at and she kind of starts like posing a little bit and then shelly and alandria and someone else are like is she like posing for us like this is like kind of uncomfortable weird which i can see it from both sides huda misreading a situation trying to make a joke out of it but i can also that's not bullying that i think a lot of the stuff that happened toward the end of the house was that people kind of fed up with huda's behavior for sure because i don't i also don't like the way huda always says like well ace was one of the main people turning people against jeremiah and i know it's because you involved every single person in the house into this relationship and so listen at the the bell rings at the end of the day and people have opinions about it yeah and every single person was that popeye's employee hearing about huda and jeremiah one more time that black woman on the end of her bed that was everyone listening to her cry through it i will say i wish someone held her a little bit more accountable earlier on yeah and maybe there could have been an opportunity for change that doesn't erase the fact that huda's behavior is simply unacceptable um but also yeah bickering over chris him yeah him yeah please no again i i do feel like i think you're right i think this is like the chris is such a small part of just the escalation of stuff between shelly and huda where where huda huda's behavior just was unacceptable to shelly and then she finally said something about it do you think that huda put her ass in ace's face yes clean answer thank you that's all i want yes do you think that i think it was a it sounds a little gray from all the accounts it didn't sound like it was exactly like face sitting it sounded like it was the ass was just too close to his face i don't know i don't know because iris sounds bad iris was on the um gabby wendy podcast and she was like yes she said like it was too much but it is also a challenge but also like no matter what it was too much yeah and also that like you know no one has very super clear boundaries going into the challenge because you don't even know what it's gonna be but still like it felt a little bit over the top okay are we gonna tune in for reunion august 25th of course of course we're too sad we're sad they're in the theater they're telling us to get out okay what do you what do you want out of reunion who do you want to see really because i saw a video of andy cone on the lost culture uh award show red carpet and he said like he's a lot of stuff to talk to ace about and i was like oh and the and the boy mom left out of me and i said oh excuse me um no that's my son you're speaking about i'm i'm curious to see what he pops out with but i do really want to see the moment we were robbed of which is sierra and alandria having a real conversation about her connection with nick yeah now that she's seen it back yeah i do i i want that conversation i want to clear it on air i do i i saw some people saying like um sierra must not have taken alandria and nick's thing very seriously and thought alandria was like beneath her and that's why it took iris being like uh girl like wake up a little bit have you seen that body yeah have you seen those cheekbones you better run you better be afraid and i don't know i kind of feel like sierra was i don't think this is like not derogatory but i think that she was just a little bit more concerned about like how she was coming across yeah she was very coming across very healed in every interaction like really doing the therapy speak which is like austin really liked about her that nick really liked about her um and so i think that she was like trying to just play it cool and not really blow anything up um but i do think that like naturally you would have a reaction even even yeah even when she said i'm happy that you explored with alandria someone i trust i was like yeah yeah oh that kind of sounded like bs from the beginning and i don't i don't regret her for lying but i now we can be honest about it yeah what do you want out of the reunion i want huda and jeremiah to both come to an agreement about their relationship because i don't think i buy that it was completely love bombing just as i don't buy that it was completely huda being like you know super overly attached woman i think that there's something in the middle where like it's just kind of like they both locked into each other so quickly that like when anyone did anything that was like just a little bit out of like what their expectation was they both freaked out because they were both super uh super attached early on they were both very controlling and they were both just like not willing to really talk about any any part of their relationship to each other except for everyone else yeah god read we had to talk about pancake gate again um the hell those pancakes have caused on this show yeah oh my god um can i just say something to the people sure address them i want to talk to the people who with a straight face voted for chris and huda to make it to the final call them out i just want to know how do you feel now they couldn't make the damn finale and you said they can go all the way you said give them 100k totally they didn't even believe in them as much as you believed in them just for one of them to rob the other yeah nasty work nasty work that's just people being messy that's like ain't no real lovers voting for them true haters true haters the real haters would have been nickel andrea and that's that's me let's get out of here anyway um this week stay around to hear us talk about the new broadway show john proctor is the villain and i successfully bullied hunter yvonne government name harris into watching k-pop demon hunters you're welcome lock in so let me say this let me say this are you looking for a home for your worst opinions are you a hater first but a lover of pop culture second consider this a glorified group chat but we're not calling you out no no no we're calling you in it is a safe space to talk shit wait what okay it's a safe space to talk shit but of course from wondery i'm peyton dicks and i'm hunter harris and this is let me say this let me say this let me say this and i will be saying this oh gosh i gotta say it netflix did their big one but you're right you're right and and i always have been except for those two times so yep totally totally do you have me to find out no i'm kidding okay but when i pressed play on k-pop demon hunters i did not expect my life to change you know there's this um video of this guy outside of club and he's like uh what does he say he said the club is bumping the drinks are flowing there's so much pain in the world right now but not in this room yeah that's how it feels to watch k-pop demon hunters yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so you press play i did you did i did press play okay quick log line k-pop demon hunters is a new netflix fantasy musical about a world-renowned k-pop girl group balancing their lives in the spotlight with their secret identities as demon hunters something that hunter will obviously press play on of course of course no i said it's listen the leo and me said they are huntrix huntrix is there is a girl group name yeah very similar to hunter uh-huh demon hunter i do it a lot sometimes in this very room sometimes a gun pointed at me in this very room and one of the members is named roomie which is only one letter away from remi it is magical the way you find a path back to yourself always you said where there's a will there's a way oh yeah and there is a will so go ahead and tell me what you thought about the movie um i was kind of like i was really charmed by it yeah but i really locked in once i heard the music because that first song i was like oh this is like a banger i was like oh low-key like who's who's doing this like who's doing this um and i was not expecting that i did not realize that the music was like such a core part of it and now that they have i read a new york times story today um they have songs on the billboard top 100 period because the music is legitimately so good and i love that um which kind of felt i mean obviously the end of the spider verse parallels are like present like same studio not the same like style of animation but like definitely have like a lot in common visually um but yeah i love it when like that musical component is just as strong it's not like empire music where you're like oh yeah this is music made for a tv show comparing k-pop demon hunters and empire is the core part of it and i love that because it's like a core part of it and it's just like the craziest thing that you've ever done i don't think so they both have like you know song like made music for certain worlds you can hear you know one sounds like something that i let's not even get shady and the other sounds like k-pop demon hunters um but yeah no i really loved it i loved like the bond between like the three girls i thought that was really sweet yes oh sisterhood i will say when i was just looking for something to play as i cleaned my apartment just like background noise i opened it and i thought no this is gonna be like too i think like some documentary i said the brain is still on k-pop demon hunters i'm like i wonder what those girls are up to maybe i should just press play and i did and when i tell you apartment a mess because i sat down okay nothing got folded nothing got done that's so funny not only was i just immediately so sold into these girls i felt yes the music immediately soda pop chart topper soda pop song of the summer you heard it here first golden so what about the boy song oh you love i like boys i like boys breaking news oh i gotta stop doing that on this podcast i don't have shockingly maybe a relationship to k-pop i don't have any big feelings about it i have like an understanding of it bts shadow army black pink black pink in your area like i even watched that pop academy netflix docuseries about cat's eye but i didn't have um a personal draw to it and for some reason i didn't have a personal draw to it and for some reason i didn't have a personal draw to it and for some reason i didn't have a personal draw to it and for some reason something about this movie set up a really nice entry point into k-pop for people who aren't k-pop stance like you didn't have to be k-pop stance like you didn't have to be k-pop stance like you didn't have to be well-versed into k-pop to connect to this well-versed into k-pop to connect to this well-versed into k-pop to connect to this movie movie movie to connect to the story of friendship or to connect to the story of friendship or to connect to the story of friendship or hiding your scars because you're afraid to hiding your scars because you're afraid to hiding your scars because you're afraid to be your full person be your full person be your full person oh roomie did the artist's way i know i oh roomie did the artist's way i know i oh roomie did the artist's way i know i know julia cameron had an influence over know julia cameron had an influence over know julia cameron had an influence over these women for sure and you know who these women for sure and you know who these women for sure and you know who else she has an influence over else she has an influence over else she has an influence over me you started the artist i started the me you started the artist i started the me you started the artist i started the artist way artist way artist way put a pin in this we got to come back i put a pin in this we got to come back i I know, I was going to save it. I was going to save it. Oh my God, you put a pin. But I just, it felt, it was too good. Hunter saw me playing piano and said, that made me put it down, low key. He said, get me out of here. Free me. But yeah, I think that the animation style, there was something that was so lovely about how detail oriented it was. Like the sexuality of these really sexy K-pop boys band that was like, yes, there was some that were built like a truck. And then there were others that just had like the wind blowing and the little bottom of the shirt goes up and you see like a brief ab. Like it was so particular. There's a small little like side shoulder check between Rooney and Jinoo that just, oh, horny. Real lovers woke up. My eye was at attention whenever you see like that one guy's abs. And then was it one of the girl's eyes like turned into like a little corn on the cob. And then he like, it's like his abs like put butter on the corn cobs. And I was like, oh. My culture. I love corn on the cob, especially in summer. It's so good. I also love abs. I thought you meant like horniness. Oh. He said, I love corn. I do love corn. He said, this is a family friendly podcast. I love corn. I do. Not anything sexual. I do. I also love, I love men's abs. I love a man's abs. That's not named Drake. Those abs are real. Oh, that's true. That's true. The difference. I did not trust the man who had that the pink hair with the hair all over his eyes. I didn't trust that. Well, they were demons. So I understand. As many men are. Men have sex issues. Hunter's crossed arms watching it. So jot that down. Triggered. Watching it, in fact. Oh, wait. What were your favorite songs? Oh, OK. I'm so glad you asked. Golden. Love. Already Going Platinum. Love. In my house. And What It Sounds Like. Oh, yes. Yeah. Period. Did not. Soda Pop. Soda Pop was like, this is cute. This is cute. But it's, you know, in my house we play Swag by Justin Bieber. So it felt a little bit like, yeah, OK, I get it. OK. Who, what were your favorite tracks? Oh, well, my favorite tracks were, yes, Golden. Your Idol was a banger. Soda Pop's Song of the Summer, like I said. And hear me out on this one. Hear me out on this one. Because when I tell you that Free is going to be in my Spotify raft, and not just because I think it's a good song, but because I fell asleep listening to it. Wait. That's so crazy. I woke up at 6 a.m. I also fell asleep listening to music. Like, in the other room, in the speaker in the other room. And I was like, what the heck? Well, do you normally do that? No, never. Oh. Oh. Well, you're a yearner. I know. I have to, like, add a soundtrack to my dreams, you know how I am. Totally. Well, my living room heard a lot of clips on Friday night. And I'm not mad about it. But I think something that I really liked about this movie is that it kind of came out a couple weeks ago. But it really, like, kind of found an audience pretty quickly. But now it's like everyone is talking about it. Yeah. And I like the idea of, like, a movie releasing and just, like, gradually growing bigger and bigger. Because I was just reading an interview, again, with the directors in the New York Times today where they were like, at first it kind of seemed like it found, like, a small audience. But now it's, like, you know, four-quadrant appeal for a K-pop animated movie that on paper does not sound like it would have the biggest audience in the world. But, like, now, of course, Netflix is really pushing it. And that's, like, I love, like, that, like, trajectory for, like, a piece of media. It's really nice. Yeah. And I think something that feels really accessible about it is a lot of the writing. Like, it doesn't. It doesn't feel like it's pandering to a young audience, which I thought it was for. It felt, actually, for me. Yeah. And, like, yes, also for kids. Maybe more kids to aspire toward. Because I do think there's a little bit of a maturity to these girls. I'm not sure how old they're, like, supposed to be. Yeah. But at least in their mannerisms and the way they're dressing and the way, you know, in what they're discussing, I do think that there's something that's really nice in terms of how we can either put them on a pedestal if you're younger or see yourself in them as, like. Yeah. A 31-shocking-year-old girl. Yeah. I also really love the concert scene. Yes. The concert sequence was, like, the art there, the design there was so good. Yeah. And it felt like, oh, wow. Also, you know what? They're going to get mad. Yeah. They're going to get mad at me again. They always are. I don't know if they will, actually. But a lot of Takedown reminded me a lot of Endgame, a lot of Reputation-era Taylor. Ooh. And I was like, oh, yeah, get mad. Ooh. Well, since we're not getting that album, we'll get this instead. Yeah, but, oh, God, takedowns. Well, anyway, let me say thank you. Yeah. say that let me say thank you you're welcome yeah i love something that seemed incredibly unserious but actually took its audience very seriously yeah exactly totally totally like the girlishness of like the way they want to be eating ramen like wanted to be like snacking like all of that stuff i was like this is so cool to see like they can do this and also be demon hunters it's like i'm in their powerpuff girl bag i know that they could be this and they can also be demon hunters we teach girls to shrink themselves to make themselves smaller it was so seriously so that and it was so important and beautiful to me and she is doing the artist's way women can be demon hunters too girl be yourself love that press play seriously i i have told so many people and everyone got really stressed out at my me weeping sending a photo of me weeping watching this movie oh i have to get one thing in yeah there was a scene in k-pop demon hunters towards the end that i was like why am i getting so emotional you i'm always emotional but it reminded me of cheetah girls the scene at the end of cheetah girls when they all come together and sing about how their stripes are different and all that but they still love each other i was bawling my eyes out when they were finally coming back to fight the demons together no it was really oh my god it's like the meeting in the middle of a crowd of yes there's nothing cinema the movies i get it hunter i know you are the way you are no it's it's one of the best movies i've ever seen letterboxd top four for sure oh wow sorry yeah wait did you have a favorite character i did i loved the three-eyed raven who was sitting on top of the tiger especially because um roomie was like why is he wearing a hat and uh the guy was like oh well the hat is the tigers but he just really liked it and kept it chic sorry wait that's so funny because i was gonna say my favorite character was a tiger and i'm like it's that when the tiger keeps trying to lift the pot over and over again something about that neuroses really resonated with me and he has big eyes like someone anyway that's so us and the raven has three eyes nosy always always peeping always watching wait okay us boots this is really an episode about girlhood about friendship oh my gosh about love should we watch ladybird later you probably will anyway but we saw john proctor is a villain last week oh okay so going into it i read that like girls were coming out of the theater yeah the booth theater yeah john wilkes i don't know i hope not um coming out of the theater screaming crying sobbing shaking throwing up uncontrollably for sure because they were so moved by this yeah and i said we'll see about that i said challenge accepted yeah yeah yeah see for me i'm like easy i like saw an ant get crushed i'm like i'm just like let's see what happens here i said no i knew i'd be those girls we'll see with them uh that's a real hater in me um no but i went to see this play with um the newsletter lit girl on step stack it was very cool so we went to the play and then like went to like a dinner after and just like honestly cried and talked about the play so if you haven't seen it yet which you should we will not spoil it here but it is by the playwright kimberly bellflower and it's a revisionist take on the crucible by arthur miller and it centers on a group of high school girls who are reading the crucible in their like ap lit class and as i'm reading it like the events of the crucible kind of happened to the girls yeah um it starred sadie sink and now it stars um kiara something i can't remember her name but i just can't remember her name i can't remember her name but i just can't i saw the same actress too yeah yeah sadie sink is not in it anymore we didn't see it with sadie sink but she will be executive producing the movie for it tina fey mark platt as well same writer um who's just adopting it for screen but if you i mean we suggest it's open till august 31st if you can get to it run run we would never say run to times square but i'm telling you run to times square i would say run to times square because that's where the closest all we're into my house um however i yeah i think that it's like easy to kind of um you know a lot of stuff is like set in schools now yeah like abbott elementary obviously but i feel like a lot of stuff like overcompensating even in some ways um so i i don't know i didn't really know what to expect i was kind of like oh a classroom drama great yeah um but i really liked the like micro focus on like classroom dynamics where like you are both friendly also kind of competitive also ambitious like the class like the teacher's pet girl um i really loved that character i thought it was like so the um i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i kind of a real sense of like stakes and also loss when you're coming from a small town and you like want to be special or want to be like like chosen by someone yeah and that really plays out here amongst these girls like with their kind of like favorite teacher yeah i um i think the last way i had seen before it was all nighter did you see that no um so at first i was like oh am i gonna have fatigue of like a classroom type setup yeah uh these girls are obviously much younger than all nighter those are college girls but um i thought that the high schoolers are as well i think five girls and two boys each character is so specific yeah so well done and you do not need more than those exact seven characters to embody what it's like to be in high school yeah in high school um and i loved the two boys i loved so much as well uh there's like kind of a more like nerdy follower kid um who was just he's just in game though he was but he's been in game he got himself a black woman go off kind of a spoiler but not a bad one not the main one um but there was even something in his mannerism that was so like the way high school boys totally totally in his like in his first no second scene i guess when he's like coming into like a feminist club and he just immediately head down on the desk it's like okay i'll just be here yeah that's mark that's cody yeah you know that type of boy who like even on the subway coming here i was like dang yeah like you don't you don't care at all do you life is happening all around you and actually what a beautiful way to live wish i could embody that more i'm feeling too much um i don't know why i come into a theater often and i like have a guard up like have like a immediate critique like in terms of the lines that i'm watching it through so i was ready to be there oh hater and you oh and you know when i go into the theater i get nervous someone will forget their lines okay we'll miss a cue yeah you have anxiety babe um but lovingly but i find myself kind of just like ready to be disappointed especially when something is so hyped up to me something that i thought this play did really well about like the high school experience is really set up how it feels to like want adults to take you seriously yeah and want adults to like believe in the same things you believe in or like even act in like a perfect way um the girls is like not a spoiler very much but the girls like are trying to make like a feminist club it's like around the time of me too and there's this one scene where like the um teacher's pet girl is talking to her like female counselor and she's like please can we have a feminist club like i really want i think this would be great for us counselor is like well no so so we still live in a patriarchy and people feel like it can't be all girls there has to be a boy involvement and all that and just like that like level of like pleading yeah i found extremely moving yeah like yeah i do think there's also something so um well done about the aspiration toward womanhood yeah these girls yes that's what i mean yes yeah and i think yes you see that in their teacher dynamic and you see it within themselves yeah and the way that they like give each other advice or have a rapport with each other i think that that's something that's so lovely and charming and i got nervous about the the black girl for a second yeah there's a black girl that's from atlanta georgia um and i had a pause about the writing around her character but then i actually felt i put that aside and i felt really empowered and i loved the way that she that actress i forgot her name i'm sorry um played that role no i thought she was phenomenal yeah i think she was one of my favorite actors in the play um but no i do i was kind of like i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i'm kind of like oh black girl from atlanta is she gonna be like too like it's gonna be like a fast girl thing or like she's kind of like you know but it was not that at all and i was really happy and i kind of um i liked that she was like always like super frank and also her being kind of like in some ways an entry point into the whole dynamic of the girls because she is new at school doesn't really know um and that was really good um and it wasn't the kind of thing where it wasn't all about a boy it wasn't all about like a love triangle or something like that really grounded in like how can we show up for each other and how are we falling short of that in these friendships that i thought was like the most dynamic and kind of moving part of it all you know what i love the most not necessarily about the play itself but walking into that theater and seeing how many young girls high schoolers college age kids were watching this play and i came away from it thinking how lucky are they to be watching this and having an um i don't know like a protection over their autonomy over their own you know girlhood over their coming of ageness like i as a 31 year old i keep saying that i keep talking my age that's fine i'm not insecure about that at all no um but i felt really proud that this younger generation of women get to look at things like this play and have it to help cement their futures maybe and how they show up in in the world in their classrooms and stuff like that a hundred percent and i also feel like to see that a play like this is like getting critical acclaim yeah um also feel i think it's like very instructive into like women's stories matter did you cry um no but i didn't cry because i don't know why i didn't cry yeah keep that pause i don't know why i mean i i really enjoyed it and i i thought it did a really good um i really love the ending i was like ending i truly the ending i was like i hope it ends just like this yeah i hope it ends yeah because there's nothing more that it's it really yeah yeah um yeah yeah i did i saw a play of my friends um that my friends did off broadway called nina and i tried to get you to see it too but i think it was like i have like one more show um but it was also like women who like go to juilliard and like are in they're like the same class and this really reminded me of that of that play nina where it's like to be how much do i love her but how much am i like comparing myself to her and how am i failing her and how is she like disappointing me like that whole dynamic i thought was so strong in this and that was like the really the part that really made me close to tearing up you're not gonna ask me if i cried well you said about 31 times nasty work oh my god that's it's like that's why i'm like how are you not a gay person just a leo actually just a leo oh you feel that crisp breeze in the air i hold your purse tighter i what the leos are coming you be afraid it's always hold your purse tighter it's always oh here comes a leo but uh no when you want to have a good time you know who to call an aries yeah what are aries are they cry babies no those are pisces every every time someone tells me another sign i'm like oh did they cry babies i'm like get them away from me in jesus name no it is leo season and i don't know if you saw i'm triggered by this shirt because this is the shirt that hunter wore to my birthday party during horus season it's just a white tank it's a white team loud and proud what am i supposed to nasty work oh i don't know but you were so lucky i was wearing a see-through dress my mom was pissed about that yeah yeah it's leo season it's leo it's always leo season of me yes yes no skin clearer hair shinier boobs bigger legs longer oh in the ysl period bank account full alert let's rob her guys i'm sorry sorry i'll be normal sorry please there's a class we're happening in this room i am it's a war on leos it's always a war on leo it literally is always a war on leo she has it she has a song coming on her birthday i know yes i saw the birthday invitation you get a free link i can't stand her and yet i honor her in a way yes there's an there's a war that's going on in her head and i'm also like never let her die keep giving give her a mic see what she does with it i nothing good it's leo season what can i say oh my god i'm so happy who's your favorite leo of all time me oh who's your second favorite leo of all time whitney houston nice third ben affleck you know what i love about you ask me my fourth go ahead i know i i can keep going no barack obama no leo dicaprio seven got her i know my least favorite i know that oh which one i don't know i'm surprised you didn't say ace oh i should have oh i should have oh one thing hunter is gonna do i'll tell you this i'll tell you this let me say this one thing hunter is gonna do is be exactly herself okay so thank you for being you thank you for being consistent oh what can i say oh i i have another um anyway yeah i can keep going on my list of favorite leos no we gotta wrap yeah no well i'm healed though so so jot that down i won't because i don't have a pen and you normally have yours clicking in your hand i do i do oh i i have my um lemon road with me um until they're cutting us maybe but that's blurred out okay but i started the artist way oh look at her speechless well julia camera needs to run me my 10 oh that's how i feel i i'm starting i'm starting to do that toxic thing where i'm like that's my thing like all my friends are like peyton hey and i'm like wait hold on and you literally never stop talking about it never um how does it feel uh it feels okay i've been doing my little morning pages yeah you take yourself on an artist date no okay not yet it's coming yeah it's coming i actually i'm kind of pissed at you oh because why is it you've been artist way this artist way that julie cameron this julie cameron that girl i went to buy the damn book i'm like you're not gonna buy the damn book i'm like you're not gonna buy the damn book i'm like i'm like you're not gonna buy the damn book i'm like you're not gonna buy the damn book i'm like what is this about to be i look on the back cover a quote from my man scorsese right in the back oh well sorry i hate to erase women just by who they may have or may not have been married to julia's living her own life this is her own story they were married yeah no way i was like why did he blurb her book i and wow that's so crazy is he leo no oh he said what's november whatever yeah yeah now now i'm talking about the coastline now i'm locked in you are nasty what can i say sorry boys rights um but i'm excited for this journey for you yeah i don't know what am i so i guess how will you know when i've like when i've finished it well that's it for this week we as usual we are two online so you don't have to be what what am i listening to i'm literally only listening to swag and the clips album well you should also be listening to huntrix stream golden right now that's not huntrix all the time it's called talking to myself it's leo season okay what about it follow us on socials at let me say this pod at peyton dicks and at hunter h let me say this is hosted by me peyton dicks and me hunter harris let me say this as a 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