Is It a Crime to Like Taylor Swift’s Song Cleveland!? VMAs Recap + Tiffani Thiessen Interview

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She would have preferred Rob Lowe over me. She would have preferred Rob Lowe over you for sure. She's, like, still mad at me for that. She's still sending me clips of him. Either from this show or from other shows. Because he was also just on Watch What Happens Live. And good Watch What Happens Live guest. Like, he was like, I don't want to plead the fifth. He was going to answer all these questions. I feel like he's always willing to spill the tea. Yeah, he was. And guess what? We have Tiffany Thiessen on today's episode. We interviewed her last week. And when we brought up Rob Lowe. She turned into a schoolgirl, too. She was like, oh, my God. I love him. Because she was also saying that he was a little bit older than her. Like, while they were coming up. You know, Saved by the Bell was, like, early 90s. He's, like, an 80s heartthrob. Yeah. So she was, like, obsessed with him, too. I mean, he's, like, the OG. I feel like he even has, like, my generation, too. Because we all, like, watched The Outsiders, like, in, like, seventh grade. I watched St. Amel's Fire. And then it was all over for me after that. But just a few housekeeping things. To kick off the episode. It is a Monday. So we're in our, just, organizational mode. Getting through it all. Rhea put up a poll on her story last week. Which then also was up on the Chicks in the Office story. Asking if we should move around the timing of our Wednesday episodes. So that we could recap Dancing with the Stars Wednesday mornings. And then have that episode come out Wednesday. Therefore, you don't have to wait until Friday for the Dancing with the Stars recap. Overwhelmingly positive, it seems. And that was what people wanted us to do. So that is what we're going to do. So now our Wednesday episodes will be coming out later in the day. It will be similar to the timing of our Monday episodes, I would say. Yeah, it should be, like, very similar. That's a you question. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It should be, like, I don't even want to promise anything. No, no, no. We don't need to. No. Because, you know, you never know. It's like Monday. It's just exactly like Monday. You never know with us. Next is, please get tickets to tour. Our tour tickets are out now. Indianapolis sold. Sold out. Shout out, Indy. Shout out. Big, big one for us. But we will be in Grand Rapids, St. Louis, Phoenix, Denver, New York City to close out in December. All of those dates are on sale. Link in the bio. Link in the description. You can get those tickets. I am doing a book talk with Christy Carlson Romano next Monday. It's October 5th. It's at the 92Y. If you're in New York City, you can check that out. You can go to Christy's Instagram. She has all the information to get tickets. I'm really excited about that. I'm really excited, too. I, like, she's sending me the book. I haven't gotten all of it yet because, my God, it took me so long to finish Calamity Club, which is the first book we're talking about this week. Yeah, literally. That's why I'm, like, out of it right now because I have to stay up until, like, 3 a.m. to finish it. To try and finish this book. And you can catch that whole discussion on the same page. Book Club. Gia also launched a new show last week. I did. Which is very exciting. Girl Meets Album. What are you doing about it? What's the show? Tell everybody. So it's once a week on Fridays. It's just. On the tube. On the tube. Yeah, not yet on podcast. I have to figure out, like, how to get that set up if I want to make it into audio, too. But I kind of like that it's just, like, a YouTube show. One album every week. It's going to be, like, mostly I pick, but obviously I take into account, like, what people want to hear and it could be an old album, could be a new album. Yeah, and then that's kind of it. Then I kind of just break it down, relate it to my life, talk about the tracks, give my opinions and things of that nature. Super fun. The first one is already out. You did, Olivia Rodrigo. Yes. And I always mess up the title of this album. You seem pretty sad. You seem pretty sad for a girl. So in love. So in love. Yeah. I was like, you seem pretty sad for a girl in love. I always forget this. So in love. So in love. Yeah. So in love. Yeah, which is, like, one of my favorite albums this year. So super fun to talk about. The best album of the year. And I don't know if anybody's going to come close. Yeah, I agree. I mean, maybe Noah Khan, in my opinion. Yeah. But I agree. I think she has it in the bag. I don't know. Yeah. There's no doubt in my mind. No, I was telling Gia about the trivia question, which is on, which was last week's episode of these three songs have hit 300,000 streams. I was like, that can't possibly be the question. 300,000 streams. That's, like, the first day. It probably can't be. It probably came out. Probably, like, in the first hour. Yeah, literally. Yeah. Yeah. And he was like, Noah was like, I don't know. This is what it says. I was like, maybe she's bigger on Apple. I don't know. Yeah. So you can check that out on Girl Meets Album, YouTube. Yes. Girl Meets Album on YouTube, Instagram, TikTok. I'm on X as well, but I don't know. I've never tweeted. Yeah, no. I'm too scared to tweet out that I have a new show. So fair. I really, I don't look at it at all anymore, really. I only look at Twitter, like, for Taylor stuff, obviously. But then, like. Because people are, yeah. That is when I learn stuff. And I do like to see the discourse, because it always cracks me up. Because it's, like, one tweet could be so far one way, and then the next tweet's, like, hilariously the other way. Yeah. There's a lot to discuss today. Speaking of Olivia, she did kick off her tour in Hartford, Connecticut, this weekend. That's where it was. Yeah. Is that funny? That's funny. What a strange first stop. I know. Maybe it was, like, no tea, no shade to Hartford, but maybe it was, like, let's just get this one out of the way. I was just in Hartford with Trent for a concert, and there's not much in Hartford. No, I went to. There's not. I've been there. Just, I went to tour University of Hartford. Yeah. Sad campus. Yeah, yeah. I think it's a lot of commuter, it's a commuter school. Hartford, I think, was the first college I got into, and I was convinced. Every time I got into a college, I was convinced I was going to that college. Could ask our Connecticut queen, Sarah. Yeah, Sarah knows. She's like, doesn't spend a lot of time in Hartford. Yeah. I'm sure it has good things. I don't think it does. Okay, all I know is that the concert looked amazing. When I saw it was Hartford, I went, oh, fuck, I should have gone. Yeah, I was like, well, Hartford's not that far away. Oh, my God, Hartford's not that far. And I'm sure a lot of people from this, from, you know, the lower New York area, too. Yeah. Or higher, I should have said. Like, that Westchester area and all that. Our cousin was there. I was so jealous. Who? Cameron. Oh, shit, I didn't even see. Yeah, she posted on her story. I was like, God damn it. Damn. I got to keep up with our cousin. God. Yeah, I was so jealous. I saw a lot of, like, influencer girls that I know that were there. I feel like to kick it off makes a lot of sense. But it was probably, what day was it? Saturday? Friday? Whatever. No, it was Friday. No, Friday, Friday. That's when I was at Harry. Yeah. And Gia texted me at, like, midnight and was like, you seeing these videos? We got to go. I was like, we got to. She's not doing MSG. She's not doing MSG. She's doing Barclays. Barclays. Yeah. You know Barclays? I don't know. They must be paying the big bucks. Barclays is really nice. I've never gone for a concert. I've just gone for basketball. And I don't know. Sometimes with timing, you never know, like, what's. She's doing, like, 10 nights at Barclays Center. Yeah. So that's a little bit trickier. I'm more just like, well, that's not until February. And it feels so far away. And after seeing the videos, I'm like, I want to go tomorrow. I know. I know. I know. But we were looking at, like, Philly. Yeah, there's some close by places. It's expensive because there's less shows. Yeah. But yeah, like, everything. The Cigarette Smoke, Rock Remix. So good. Maggots for Brains. The outro of that song. She, like, did a little new thing. Yeah. The dress. The dress from the curing. Jumping in the rain. Bro, like, I got to get my ass to work for her. I feel like she's a big bring someone out, too. Like, bring a special guest out. Yeah. And, like, someone cool, too. Like, in New York. Maybe at Barclays Center. There was something. New York should do it, yeah. Yeah. I could see her bringing out, like. Stevie or, like, Alanis Morissette or, like, an iconic. Or what's his name who's actually on the song? Robert Smith. Which would be so cool But no, I really want to go I wonder if she'll do You know, Phoebe Bridgers just did a bunch of shows at Barclays Center And they did the no phone thing Which is so interesting to me Where was I? I don't even know where I was It was Thursday, Friday, Saturday No phone, she brought out Boy Genius Lucy Dacus and Julian Baker They did a bunch of songs that I love But yeah, no phone So people were like, I swear it happened How are you supposed to prove that you were there? I know, I know Because even the entertainment reporters that were there Reporting on it It's like, hey, you gotta trust me that this happened Are you allowed to bring in a video camera? No, nothing If you came from work And had your laptop, you had to lock that away You couldn't bring a disposable? No, nothing You're allowed to bring a pen and paper To write down what happened Literally though I saw pictures from it And it looks really nice How? Well, like her team Her team, like They had like a professional photographer I know, I actually did see one of my One of my friends who was there Post like an official Like maybe Barclays Center had posted it Yeah And it's like only proof that I was here And saw this Yeah, yeah Which is so true because It's You can't be posting But I mean It has to be a really cool Concert going experience Totally Because I think about the ones that I went to Where like They did that for us Where we had to put our phone We couldn't bring our phones Into like the Jonas Brothers Launch First night At the box We couldn't have our phones When? They did like a surprise Thing at the box Oh, oh the Oh And we It was no phones The Jonas Brothers performed at the box? Uh-huh Damn, they do crazy stuff? No crazy No crazy stuff That was like But that was when they were Just coming Back It was like when they were just Getting back together And it was all like Happiness begins stuff I don't know if I've ever been to a No phones No phones Show Have you ever Have you Noah? Uh I don't think so Yeah I don't think so I get a lot of credit Because it feels very hard To pull off I was literally just thinking that And I'm curious if I'm curious if Because there was I feel like it's way more common With comedy shows Yeah, yeah, yeah Definitely Yeah, that's true Definitely For sure I wonder Because they In the statement that they put out That they were doing this There was like a Oh, and if you do have an emergency Or something Like there are designated Like phone areas Yeah And I wonder if there was just like A bajillion people But the thing is How would you know In the phone area To be like Oops, gotta check my phone Yeah But like how do you even know You have an emergency? Yeah, that's the thing It's like if something happened With like a family member Or something You wouldn't know No, I know That is true It would be your own emergency I think you just have to Like really, really buy into it You know, if you're If you're going You gotta buy into it And you can't just be Yeah, I mean I think it's lame If you're like Going to a no phone show And you're like I need to go on my phone Don't go then Well, I'm just thinking about Like the teenagers Yeah, yeah, yeah And like actually don't know How to function Without their phone Yeah, well these teens They could use a little I know A little Phoebe Bridgers With no phone I would appreciate that The thing that got me Was like Hey, bring a credit card Earn something Some other form of payment Yeah, there's no Apple Pay Because you can't do tap to pay And I was like Oh shit Good points What is this? The 1600s? Oh my god I can't tap to pay? I'm not getting any merch I'm not going Yeah, that's funny No, it did look so fun We actually both Were at Harry Styles This weekend Yes I was going to say You guys playing Your outfits today? No, we also did this Last night We watched the VMAs Together too And Joe We've been really On the same outfit Grind recently We have Gia came To her birthday party At her birthday party She wore the exact same outfit As the birthday girl So embarrassing Yeah Go home and change It's like shit But it was cute Because it was like It was the same vibe But like Different fonts Yeah, yeah, yeah Different fonts I was wearing boots You were wearing sandals Yeah The same color palette Yeah, yeah Same vibe for sure I went Friday night With Joe And then we got Like We were with the brand We were at TSW It was so much fun They gave us a gift bag At the end of the night And we all got The like Jerseys Which was sick And Joe Was wearing it yesterday And he was like Wait, these This is awesome They're like rugby jerseys It's like they're like Rugby jerseys Like short sleeve Yeah They're very cool Very cool And Joe was wearing his on Sunday Gia came over to watch The VMAs She was in her sweatshirt And I was like Oh my god FOMO So then I put my sweatshirt on And now we're both And then I remembered I actually got this one From London After the London show So I kind of like Hadn't been wearing it a lot And that reminded me That it's a great sweatshirt Yeah It's really good quality To want to wear it I wanted to put it back on Yeah, it is a good one Mine is the MSG exclusive Yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah I love a I love like an exclusive Merch item I know I will be If you're playing somewhere For 30 nights You gotta make exclusive merch Yeah, that's true Well, the New York jersey Is like in Knicks colors too Yeah So that's why Joe really liked it Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah It's blue and orange It was an absolutely epic show Yeah, it was so So I went Friday night You went Saturday night Yeah He wore pants on Friday And little short shorts on Saturday I could not I told TJ before I was like I'm just gonna pre-apologize For the person that I become Yeah, yeah The screech that comes out If he comes Oh my God When he came out I literally was like I'm gonna throw up Those shorts are so short He loves those short shorts Oh, he was so cute So really adorable And I'm so pissed I haven't seen him Around New York City yet All you gotta do Is walk the Brooklyn Bridge I was gonna say You gotta go On the Williamsburg Bridge Or the Yeah, the Brooklyn Bridge Just walk it every day My brother sent a TikTok Of him right on Basically on my corner The other day Oh He was on the Yeah He was in Chelsea Wait, your brother's song? No, no, no My brother sent me a TikTok Of someone else Yeah, yeah Did you see that That TikTok's Of this girl Who was like Walking in front of him And Zoe on the Brooklyn Bridge And didn't realize it Yeah, I did see that And like They were kind of Hiding behind her And then they ran into her Again another day And then he just gave her tickets Yeah God, that's a dream I actually watched Like an entire It was probably Almost a 10 minute TikTok Of this girl talking about Meeting him in a coffee shop Last week I saw that TikTok too I watched the whole thing Yeah And I was like Oh my God And you know I She was It was a story She was a storyteller Yeah, she was very But I would've done The exact same thing And she was cool It was like You don't You don't ask for a picture You gotta be cool about it That But she was cracking me up This random girl You wouldn't ask for a picture I I would ask for a picture With him I like I actually really don't think I would I don't know if I would Because he's like Because he's like Kind of known to say no Yeah Like he'll be like Oh actually like No I've seen like Multiple times Like in New York Like Him going like this I know I just wouldn't be able To handle that kind of rejection I think it depends on What mood he's in Yeah If he said no I think I would just start crying Oh my God It'd be brutal For my own ego Like I would understand why But like I would just be like Oh my God I can't believe I did that And I'm so embarrassed And why did I ask that I'd much rather be able To have a cute little Like chit chat Yeah Which it seems like What he did with this girl But she was funny Because she was like I don't know why I said this Being like You got a show tonight Wait that's what she said Yeah like well They were like chit chatting And then there was like a pause And she was like You got a show tonight He was like Yeah I do That's true Do you think his team Is like worried That he's just walking In the streets alone Like with no security I don't think so Because it's not like Anything's knock on wood Has ever happened And I feel like New York People kind of know his spots now He's been here so long It's like If you wanted To go see him You could just wait On the bridge Yeah but that's so weird It is weird You have to have A mental illness To be like I'm going to wait On the bridge Every single day Until Harry Styles shows up There are a lot of people With mental illness That's true For sure But my guess is It's his call So it's like If he ever gets to the point Where he feels like Unsafe Then he won't do it Yeah I feel like New York is like One of those cities Where people kind of respect But he does it in London He does it all over He loves The guy loves being outside He can just run away He's a nerd So fast Yeah Was it not him Who said he got like Mugged in London Or like Wasn't that him Well I mean Anyone can get mugged In London Our brother got mugged You can get mugged Anywhere Yeah Your brother got mugged Yeah in Italy once Yeah in Italy So I feel like Anyone can get mugged It doesn't matter Who you are You just gotta live Your life I don't remember that Oh yeah yeah Remember he was mugged At knife point In London Oh Walking around But see there's the thing That's like not Because he was Harry Styles On Valentine's Day In 2020 You know Like I don't I don't think it was Like a target Oh my god That's Harry Styles Like he was just That was Wrong place Wrong time Unfortunate timing The man approached him Calmly and offered To sell him marijuana When he refused They surrounded him And pulled out knives Yeah Damn That's terrifying You don't want my weed Fine I'll stab you That's crazy That is crazy The shows Were amazing Yeah oh my god So good So fun They're just It's great energy And it was very cool Seeing it In London Versus MSG Because Wembley's so The scale is Wembley's so huge So I'm like Oh my god One there's not a bad seat Two If you're in the pit You're so The pit's so small Like all the little areas Are so small Yeah Which does crack me up Because my god These girls line up I know At the crack of dawn To go into MSG Or whatever it is They got the They got the They got their own Wristband system Then they got the real Wristband system And then like Everybody's working together For like who's going In first, last The whole thing When in reality You could walk into the pit At 8.30pm and be in a great spot you might not be barricade but you're like five rows of people back from barricade I wonder if it's just like you know in the rite of passage as a fangirl it's like they just it's like I have it I want to be right on the edge and my god you know he does he loves chatting with people so it's like that's probably what drives you it's like if you can be right in his face you have the best chance of him talking to you I felt like my seats were almost better than like the pit seats because I could see everything when you're in the pit if you're on like the disco side you can't see anything going on you can't see the other side ipso facto so it's like a little bit higher up you get the bird's eye view of everything that's going on it's kind of nice but he's just so funny I love when he chit chats with people every time he ran by or like stopped in the area I'd be like like he's looking at us like I don't understand how people can talk when he starts talking to them Joe was cracking up all the ladies in the box because every time he would stop Joe would turn around and be like oh he looked right at me and we were up higher so it was funny because obviously not looking right at us and he's just like a comedian he loves making jokes he called out two girls that were very close to each other that were wearing the same shirt I saw that clip that was so funny now things worse when you think you got a brand new top you're not too afraid it's like oh no and you guys don't know each other and he's like oh the worst yeah it's so funny he did that with two girls were holding signs that was like I broke up with my boyfriend and now I'm at the show with a stranger and I guess she met this they're both Harry fans whatever and he was like what's this guy's name and she was like Garrett he's like Garrett what kind of name is that Garrett like saying it in an American accent it was so funny he's like Garrett's a boy he's like give it up for Garrett and everyone booed it was so funny you get some good laughs he's very funny oh god he's just the best and then he does a 10 minute DJ set like boiler room DJ set I feel like I've seen mixed reviews on that in terms of like audience I liked it I think it really depends on if you like house music or like techno it's also he does it he does it it varies in length every night like sometimes he goes on a little longer I felt Friday night he didn't even really do it for that long to be honest I don't know he was feeling himself he was doing like the DJ phase did he hit the high note on Sound of the Times for you guys I believe Friday night this is a conversation I see online I think on Friday he sang in the true key I don't remember and I did actually I told myself to remember sometimes you can't even tell because there's like backups I know I did yeah yeah I certainly know I was singing in the I was belting in the original key yeah legit I think he did I can't remember though yeah I'm pretty sure he was and I like that he throws in some old songs too like Carolina Kiwi oh my god when he sings Kiwi I thought the whole place was coming down yeah yeah it was awesome the ground shakes is it different set list every night or no? no it's pretty similar he's kept it pretty similar yeah except for maybe like a couple of songs couple changes one night he did I know he did Sweet Creature one night yes yeah that's the thing one of the best songs yeah yeah yeah that's the first song I got into I mean obviously it was like his first single book yeah my husband being a new Harry fan on the way there he was like all the songs that he likes are you know he's like does he do Cherry? and I'm like no yeah he should have come the time we went to see the Fine Line concert does he do She? I'm like no wrong tour wrong album I know but yeah but I just thought just because he's just discovered these songs right right right he like always thought he wouldn't like it and then when I finally was like actually just listen to Fine Line did you like when we saw him with Stevie Nicks at the LA show it's like Joe would have loved that show Joe would have loved that show yeah Joe would have loved that show yeah he would have that was that's like up there for me in terms of best concerts best concerts yeah yeah yeah he puts on an amazing amazing show he did that front to back it was the fucking coolest thing he did Fine Line it was like one night only one night only and he's like this is probably the only time I'll ever do this start to finish Fine Line damn and brought out Stevie Nicks yeah wow we did one night only for Harry's house and that was fucking awesome yeah actually he did As It Was like five times actually did that twice what back to back albums for Harry's house we went to one night only when we did it at yeah at UBS yeah that was epic I always want to say USB when I'm talking USB Arena right no UBS yeah that was also really cool so cool he's just he's just the best he's an amazing performer he really is yeah you're going again right yeah October 16th when does he end is it Harry Ween or the last shows yeah I think so like oh he's ending with Harry Ween yeah it's somewhere around that time it makes sense that would make sense because last Saturday was the halfway point you should go Noah it's so fun I went to his last tour this one I just think is not as uh also my like uh Jake Bass isn't here so we went together last time which was just objectively hilarious but yeah uh I'm not going alone yeah yeah yeah but also like yeah I just don't think like this tour is this album maybe wasn't your fave yeah yeah that's fine I kind of feel the same way like this album wasn't my favorite but it was still so good he's just such a good performer yeah like but like by hearing it's like he doesn't play like a lot of the songs that I yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah um no that's very good very fair he he's just such a great performer multiple times like I Joe was having so much fun it was so funny he was just like okay first of all sexiest man alive yeah oh yeah the last show was on Halloween yeah and then he was like top five he was like at least top ten of of performers I was thinking by far by far he just really like it's so and then the the whole stage setup he's just oh he's running yeah so like it's very energetic and it's so funny because there's all these like terms in the jam band world for people like Joe is such a like fish grateful dead widespread panic Billy Strings like those are the shows that my husband is going to yeah and Joe and I have very similar tastes very similar half the time when Noah's like I'm going to a concert I'm like Joe's going to that too yeah yeah and the way that like the girls were dancing in the pit and like jumping around and where there's areas yeah they're doing the circles yeah and he was like oh this is the same as like the floor of like Dead & Co whenever it was like holding hands and jumping around in circles yeah instead of being on hard drugs though we're just no no yeah high on girlhood yeah literally high on Harry there's a fair share of people on drugs for sure yeah definitely not the same percentage probably but definitely not the same percentage no definitely not but I feel like maybe and even like if you know the vibe of this show it's a good it's a good one for drugs because this is probably what it was like when the Grateful Dead were like in the 70s and then like 40 years from now you guys will be like there will be kids being like oh like the Harry Styles like old fans who just like dance yeah yeah yeah God willing he wants to keep doing it oh God yeah it doesn't really seem like it I know after this it does seem like he wants to have a break that's okay though oh Harry it's okay if you need a break yeah he'll come it's just like true like artists like that though I don't think they can stay away for long like I think they can do it but I don't know then he kind of clarified and he was like I don't mean I'm like going away permanently yeah yeah yeah I just need a little bit of a break he wants I think he wants to be a dad I'm just getting that vibe from him you're just I'm getting the vibe from him holding all these babies all I'm seeing are pictures and videos of him holding babies and I'm like I think he's getting the itch and all he does is like talk to pregnant women in the crowd yeah yes yeah so so if you're pregnant if you're pregnant get your ass to a Harry Styles concert no seriously he loves talking to you if you're pregnant and if you're not everyone's making signs it's like it's not my birthday I'm not pregnant but like please talk to me seeing Lenny Kravitz in the crowd was pretty funny yeah that was sick so cool that was really cool Louis Capaldi was there Friday night when I was there he was vibing as well I was like you don't want to come out come up and sing a song with him that'd be awesome the voice of an angel Louis Capaldi John Mayer's in the city this week so I'm on Harry Styles watch for bringing him in oh shit for what there's a you know Buddy Guy he's like a famous legend he was in Sinners yeah he's in the end I was going to say he's at the end of Sinners that's him at the end of Sinners but he's like a legend but he's doing a 90th birthday like celebration at Radio City on Thursday and they're having like like Tedeschi Trucks band is going to be there John Mayer's going to be there so cool Eric Clapton like everyone's there but tickets are I was going to say tickets have to be astronomical Trent and I were like to sit in the very back row is over a thousand dollars so wow but yeah but anytime I know there's another celebrity who's like friends with Harry in the city I'm like he might bring him back he hasn't done it he hasn't brought out any guests he hasn't done it at once God forbid the show is just the show that they not in Noah's mind he in Noah's mind he's like who could they be bringing out Tedeschi Trucks band brought John Mayer out the other day I don't know if you saw this no and I was like are you fucking kidding me was it in New York no it was It was in Texas at Eric Clapton's festival, but I was like. that's my number that's my dream yeah the festival that's where everyone's there festival is where i'll get you like festival is actually where i do expect someone to bring a guest for sure or surprise because you're all there you get the pickings are all there yeah like you got every you could be like hey you want to do this with me that but damn that is your that's your dream collab it's a big announcement today we don't know what it is yet oh shit does he have a does he have a countdown on his website uh no they have posters like up in like all the cities album maybe he said there's definitely music but this looks like a tour okay yeah buckle up no one's going back on tour i wonder who he'll bring out yeah who will be his surprise john mayer i don't care he's the one guy i don't care yeah that is so funny um all right let's get into the rest of the show we have our vmas recap like i said before g and i watched the show together some ups and downs just to say the least yeah um yeah taylor swift released the encore which had everybody up in arms once again as it does with any taylor release time now and sabrina carpenter and margaret qualley were announced to be joining the fred astaire biopic starring tom holland that was announced this weekend we also have the weekly watch report and a great interview with tiffany thesen so let's get into it we have always talked about this but the skims fabrics are top tier they are truly one of a kind i love all their cotton fabrics i've been wearing the cotton everything as especially now as there's a little chill 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fruit bars outshine takes the best parts of fruit the juicy flavor goodness and makes it easy to enjoy you can find the outshine fruit bars at retailers nationwide they are delicious you can find them at retailers nationwide outshine snacking made easy all right the vmas were sunday nights they started a little bit late because they were also on cbs and the rio nfl game was on yeah and thank god you know the ravens got the ball back with like what seconds left or something and they were able to kick that long field goal and not and therefore end the game or else we would have had to wait for a full overtime period before the show would have started brutal it was funny because i didn't even realize it was on cbs so i'm on mtv and i'm like donnie walberg is just talking to me well all day long on cbs they were like plugging it so i'm like i guess it's on cbs yeah i was my thing was i i was watching red zone commercial free so but it's not commercial free yeah but well there's only a couple yeah but they weren't plugging the vmas like i didn't see anything about the vmas on on that so like i went to mtv and donnie walberg was just like talking about past yeah vanguard winners yeah they must have done like a pre-tape donnie walberg yeah just in case the game goes over and then like the ticker on the bottom was like the vmas will begin shortly like vmas will begin shortly and then i realized that oh it's actually there yes like it really did start at 7 30 we were all posting p.m maddie sarah and i and you can see the in getty all the pictures like were there before it happened yeah you know that was very interesting i was like seeing i was looking at that too i saw like that dakota johnson introduced taylor like before it happened and i was like oh why am i seeing spoilers for the vmas on my freaking yeah on my twitter yeah yeah because it was already it was already going on yeah but snoop dogg was our host yeah didn't have to do too much it was a fairly quick show all things considered um usually is yeah yeah they really don't like present that many awards no they don't i think they only did like four yeah and i and i think best new artist is the only one where the person doesn't know they're gonna win interesting yeah like i think best new artist is the only one because it's like voted on up until the very end so they say yeah they claim it's fan voted but like is it no uh no i know but not all the vmas are fan voted are they or are they all fan no i'm pretty sure they're all fan voted because like there's a big best new artist absolutely is but i don't know about all the other ones no they totally are because i know like fact check no yeah it says fan voted categories major categories like video the errors of the year best technical and specialty categories allow public voting oh the non-fan voted one are yeah okay okay are the craft technically yeah yeah yeah okay so madonna's team like bob bots yeah and every no no so that's what i'm just saying it's like not it's fan voted i put in air quotes because there's no way that madonna's fans are out voting no like taylor or sabrina no no no that was a whole big set so madonna opened the show she sang a song with sabrina yeah then with charlie xcx they have brought out a ton of other people there was julia garber was out there she's playing madonna in the biopic um somber yeah it came out for a second rogan rogan you missed that says rogan was maybe on screen for two seconds literally walked out of like one of the bathroom stalls looked like he took a hit and walked back through yeah that was it yeah debbie maser miser maser i always forgot her last name her and madonna are just like besties yeah um but here's the thing madonna is an icon legend she's all the things of course now when she goes on stage she's she's not singing no um she didn't really seem to know what was going what was going on there was a lot of rambling and it's also like here's the thing madonna is there madonna's team knows she is winning these awards so like give her something to say be more prepared yeah oh my god kill the vibe every time perhaps a little bit of rehearsal for when you're going up there and you know you're you're gonna win the award because she does the only like i don't know what m what mtv and madonna's team had arranged for this evening but i don't know if they were like look there's gonna be a big taylor night because she's gonna do the music video and everyone's gonna be like locked in and watching to see what taylor does so if you want a big moment for madonna this could be it yeah like i just i don't know i just don't understand that i i mean yes all love and respect to madonna she's madonna but like i don't know it just felt such no it felt quite out of place yeah it felt really out of place it felt like it didn't even make sense like artist of the year like i understand she put an album out but like no and also she was like winning the award and and asked who was it was it charlie xdx and troy and troy savant and she was like i don't know what what video did i win yeah she was like what was this again i lost my train of thought what was this one for again it's like oh my goodness even when she went with sabrina she it was fairly awkward her yeah she was like hey i i reached out to sabrina didn't get didn't hear back from her i was like okay shady queen like why are you shading sabrina right now like accepting the award for the both of you guys and sabrina was like um i swear my team responds yeah so awkward very awkward i don't know how they decided that they were going to win the award it was going to be like the big madonna night madonna's team worked over time to make that all happen because it would have been literally anybody else with the vmas it's always the music yeah get her off the stage the vmas is always the one where it's like when you see who's walking the carpet you sort of know who's gonna win yeah you know yeah that's when like when they showed lisa i was like oh she's definitely winning yeah best pop yeah because she's the only one sitting in the - No one there. Ariana Grande's not there. - No. you know taylor's was there but she's not staying in her seat yep at that moment in time sabrina wasn't in her seat so you just kind of know like when what's gonna happen with these with this level like award show and after madonna won the first one i was like oh fuck madonna's gonna win them all yeah besides i was like well they're gonna give taylor video of the year and and they did because she also came out and dakota johnson introduced her perfect timing that was for honor direct for artist director director honor yeah which was a made-up award yep uh first time it's ever happened the one of the eps for the vmas got super shady and was like this was an external idea it's like well yeah no shit it's a made-up award yeah and it wasn't you guys who were like you know what let's make up a war an award that we can just give here's the thing like taylor to announce the video was like i'm sure her team was thought how do we make this a bigger moment well we'll make we'll turn into an award yeah well i i think either yeah it was either that or like someone from mtv was like we'll give you an award you come present in your music video well that yes but the ep was saying it was an external choice okay yeah so they were probably like and and by the way let's make up an award so that this all like the synergy is all there yeah i'm wondering like who's gonna win that award next year like no one really else directs their music videos besides taylor i mean i'm sure a lot of artists do but yeah yeah it'll just go to taylor again going to taylor yeah it just goes to taylor again the next time after she gets some more music videos she keeps doing the music videos yeah um that's funny the whole the whole the synergy is all there across the board because verity is coming out dakota johnson's in verity dakota johnson's in this music video for patient zero the music video is great she always crushes these it's just like short film s because she's gets a-list actors to be a part of it it was really good i loved the whole storyline behind it because she could have taken it in some different ways with the whole idea of patient zero like i feel like it could have been a more like light-hearted sure sort of like oh oh just call the girls getting together more of like a girlies like let me warn my girlies about this guy like womanizer player kind of guy like you put a guy in some hot young guy to like do it and have it be that this was very interesting because it sort of went more spooky yeah spooky dark murder mystery kind of vibe where i didn't expect it to be taylor to be the one who was dead and it was like oh actually murdered by colin farrell murder murdered yeah and she's like coming basically like haunting dakota not even haunting haunting and haunting positive yeah because she's like protecting her comforting i also saw a bunch of tiktok videos about her and she's like she's like she's like tiktoks of like because i didn't even realize this at first with all the like drinks spilling yes it was like oh that was taylor trying trying to warn her like not have her drink the drinks because then you see colin farrell poison taylor swift yes just so smart very very fun it was a great video yeah and she just crushes it yeah it makes you think like damn i wonder if she went through that herself yeah well she always liked to say she always likes to say she gets inspired like other people's stories yeah inspire and then you're like girl please girl we all know that this was some this was some real life and yeah yeah yeah yeah this was some real life yeah it was really really really cool just beautiful that guy chivo he's like a very well-known cinematographer um it's actually funny because on new heights like travis was like talking about chivo like to tom cruise and we're like oh my god we should have noticed that like travis is like randomly bringing up this cinematographer yeah so even travis is like he's learning he's learning a lot which is funny but um really really really good music video the ending was the best part obviously with all the the reveal and it was revealed that cara delavine was in it yeah people were wondering with that uh saccharide aries thing people were saying delavine because delavine means from the vineyard in france in french oh yeah i got saccharide is sugar yeah colin farrell is in that show sugar yeah aries is tron aries or sorry aries is the ram and matthew saffler plays the rams um dakota north or south dakota north or south and then from the vineyard delavine yeah yeah yeah people thought maybe zoe kravitz or or somebody whoever was in tron aries i can't remember really stupid to say i don't get the dakota thing north or south dakota the state oh north or south dakota yeah like gotcha yeah the whole time i was thinking something to do with like a compass you know i'm like oh north or south yeah well you would think north or south compass but no could have been carolina exactly if her name was she had a friend named caroline okay i gotcha i gotcha that makes a lot of sense matthew safford and his wife are both in it yeah yeah kelly's the one that like helps her up yeah like she falls down she loves throwing her friends in a little tidbit yeah and then the new miles and yeah i wouldn't go that far i would definitely not go that far you never know yeah i guess so you never know what could go down but no this was that was really good travis was also cracking me up last week talking about or was it last week or two weeks ago i don't know i didn't even see the whole episode i just saw the clip of him when they when he was talking about the emmy's tees yeah that's funny he's like he looks she looks so hot with that gun holzer on her side i was like travis please yeah then he goes like i know what he's gonna i'm gonna get her for christmas i was like do not buy her a gun thank you yeah yeah that was funny that was funny but no i'm gonna get her for christmas i'm gonna get her for christmas i'm gonna get her for christmas the video is fantastic she won the award um that it was very sweet to thank and honor dolly parton because it was a beautiful tribute to dolly casey musgrave saying as well which i guess was pre-taped oh it was i saw people say it was well i saw a guy on tiktok who was watching live and he was like how is she doing this i'm going to see her in one hour like she had a concert like that night or something oh she had a concert literally sunday night so i guess maybe that was pre-taped that's interesting um but she's such she's a beautiful singer that camera cut to charlie xcx during taylor's that was fake that was fake fake fake i wasn't watching lives i was gonna say i was like wait that was fake yeah because that's blown up on twitter brush up on your freaking media literacy no that's that was apparently she did that during nirvana really it wasn't actually someone like edited where it looked like it was i was like that was too good to be true i was also watching the no she's just like clapping but like looks so like yeah i just think like i we would have noted one when we were watching they didn't actually happen damn i'm almost positive typical typical typical oh yeah literally i just opened twitter the first thing is pop grave saying the viral clip of charlie xcx reacting to taylor's speech is edited yeah there you go thank you pop grave for thank you for being true journalists pop grave what will we do with that out you truly honestly never forgot when we met those two girlies at the niall horan thing that worked for pop grave i thought that they were pop bass no oh you're right they were pop no you were shitting on pop bass you're like what do you think about those yeah yeah copycats at pop well now there's like everything pop crave pop bass pop no they're they were pop yeah yeah the blueprint yeah the real the real deal thank you queen yeah so that was fake uh that didn't happen by the way fantastic just gotta say crushed her outfit yeah she looked so good that was one of her one of her best red carpet looks she has a few that stand out to me but obviously that was a favorite that was really really good really complimentary towards her skin tone her body her hair looked great yeah beautiful not too many big red carpet moments i did love seeing belmont camelli being asked about um tyler cameron's dance on the dance with the stars oh and ellis circle ellis sitting next to taylor swift oh my god i think she must have been peeing her pants oh my god she had also reposted and then i saw a bunch of clips resurfacing on of her on um owen thiel's podcast yeah and just being like i like fucking love taylor swift so much basically and then it's like oh she wins this award basically she's moved probably almost in like a seat filler type way it's like who do we get to move over here so funny well they're just sneaky wasn't that many people there like no shade there just wasn't that many famous people there and ella's like very well like so so popular right now and i know that they're like let's put ella here do you think taylor approves that what 100 percent like she's like they ask her 100 yeah yeah totally yeah because it's like oh you think she turns and and she has no fucking clue who's next to her to hug yeah that's so true when they hugged after she like was honored oh my god her face was so cute she was like dying would have truly been losing it but belmont was so cute too just being like tyler crushed it like he was great i saw that he was great yeah that was nice um yeah that was very sweet and shout out kelty she's always asking the good questions who's asking uh ella on the carpet too about you know cleaning up the instagrams and a rumored feud like because everyone they all were holding on that bella and ella bella bella and ella bella and ella but that belmont ella didn't like each other like that they were like they were having a that they had a falling out or that belmont had like a falling out with the whole cast oh yeah yeah any you know anytime someone goes in to one of these shows in a serious committed relationship relationship yeah the fans like don't know how to handle it yeah that's so true so it's like it's like his girlfriend did that it's like it's all you know that's so annoying it's really very brutal they're also they all don't they have like a big like she's like 19 he's like 20 something right yeah yeah yeah yeah so it's like she's a baby they seem like they're like brother and sister totally totally yeah and i don't think it's anything to any any drama there yeah um i love tiana taylor's carpet look there was either like everyone was either in black or silver like silver sequin sparkle yeah i actually really like stella lefty's dress i didn't love her hair and makeup but i actually really liked her dress was really pretty her dress was pretty her eyebrows were way too thick lisa looked great yeah that's fair sorry queen but beautiful dress the dress was really pretty i love the i love like when a dress has like the draping yes i thought that was a gorgeous dress the hair and makeup did um you her no favors yeah like i just thought that was not great hair and makeup agreed uh but like all the black you know charlie xcx somber somber really i said this to you while we were watching my face card never declines that guy like what did john line on him he's always mewing he always he always is he's so tall wait someone said immediately thought of spider from school of rock that's literally what i thought too when he was oh my god when he was on stage with charlie and madonna i was like he's giving spider yeah ella and belmont posed for some pics cute tyla looked great lisa looked great lisa wore that big red number paris hilton is gonna look like this for the rest of her life i think yeah did you see that did you see paris and nikki like kind of being shady with taylor no like taylor sat in front of them when she was like winning her award and she cut she like waved and like said hi and like was talking about her dress and like paris like kind of like rolled her eyes and like nick and like paris waved at nikki and nikki like barely even gave her a wave damn shady queens yeah maybe maybe they were mad that they were all in they were all in silver sequence yeah maybe they were mad that they were in the row behind her ray stunning voice of an angel the the ladies crushed it i will say performance wise ray sounded amazing sienna spiro sounded amazing casey musgraves amazing i'm not sure why they decided to do a tribute this year yeah i don't know i don't know like when did he die like was it but i feel like they would have said like it's the whatever anniversary of his death died in 2016 oh so maybe 10 year anniversary yeah of him passing away i in my opinion like i i do i love teddy swims yeah i think teddy swims is amazing i love right like she had her moment like i i'd rather just watch right perform her own stuff you know what i'm saying in the sense that i thought adam lambert should have just done that whole trip yeah yeah like have that whole tribute be adam lambert saying when i'm looking it up 40th anniversary of faith okay okay and i guess he has upcoming projects george i don't know yeah from the grave uh post humor there's a live album coming out in november oh the companion concert film cool december interesting george michael the faith well let me tell you adam lambert is a goddamn star and his voice is incredible and i would have watched him die in the same way i would have watched him die in the same way i would have watched him do that whole tribute totally totally his voice is insane yeah i kind of felt like i was like did they have like a low budget this year because all they they just had the same performers rotate it just does continue to drop i don't yeah it just doesn't have the power it used to i know i just i don't understand like what what was the turn of events because it used to be the biggest thing ever i mean sabrina was there taylor was there obviously but like i don't know they had they had sienna or they had ray so somber and and teddy and somebody else like perform yeah and then they had them perform again for the george michael thing it was like could they not get yeah different performers i kind of feel like like there are certain artists that we know absolutely crush a music video yeah and then other than that the age of the music video is just not as which is sad it's just like i feel like it's just not as talked about it's just not as discussed like i know i don't run to watch a music video as fast as i used to only for like certain people yeah there's only certain artists that i'll i'll go watch like it's just not as big and even like as madonna was saying she's like i opened the first vmas or whatever she performed to the first vmas ever and it's a different whole different feel now yeah it really is they honored nirvana as well which was cool to see vanguard award fun to see some of those old clips and like how they talked about their old videos because those videos are also iconic as well and you see dave grohl who and rhea texted this in our in our group chat it was like very impressive to have such massive success with two separate bands yeah like just name recognition wise nirvana i honestly like didn't even know that he was in nirvana yeah to be honest yeah yeah i i bet you a lot of young people don't realize that like if you would be like oh you think foo fighters when you think yeah because he's not the lead singer yeah and i i you know obviously i know nirvana songs but i never like am i i wouldn't consider myself like a fan yeah yeah yeah you're not not listening you probably don't like dave girl right he's a shady queen yeah dave girl is a shady queen he's shady to taylor too but i i don't hate him i mean i like there's great foo fighters songs i like the fighters a lot you know but foo fighters there's great foo fighters um but he's a shady queen what are you gonna do about it absolutely so i mean that's pretty much everything on the vmas i don't think there was yeah it was pretty lackluster honestly we left francesca's apartment like after taylor i can't believe you you did like a a watch party for the vmas honestly i guess it was more so just like well it's just i mean i probably wouldn't have watched if i didn't was gonna go yeah yeah yeah like i was over taylor and less just also like hey sunday nights we like to just get together for dinner anyway yeah yeah you know tj was in town it was nice yeah yeah it was funny because he was like should we watch the vmas with fred and joe and i was like oh yeah like but i don't know joe sometimes like wants to watch football and he was like oh shit i can't believe i'm thinking about the vmas before i'm thinking about the nfl which was funny oh man we also like hit tj with such a sis like we like we're talking because tj i guess knew that the that the vmas were maybe going to be delayed because of the of the game yeah and then we were like tj for how long he was like i don't know but then g and i at the exact same time when tj what's gonna happen he was like guys sorry i don't know that was so funny i was like oh man i went sorry tj you got sistered you got sistered hard there that was funny um but no it's it's those award shows always more like when they when they're ones that stink objectively yeah like it's more fun to watch with other people for sure at least you can have some discourse around like why the fuck is madonna still on stage what is that woman talking about and every time she won we'd be like oh my god here comes madonna i did not know she i think i squeaked i knew she was short but i did not know she was that short tiny she shorted and sabrina her and sabrina coming out together i went my god little shorties yeah yeah they're so short they must be like five two and five three oh my god seriously they're they i mean not even i think sabrina's five feet tall look up sabrina carpenter's height i think she actually is like five yeah because she wears those giant heels too and she's still so short five foot that's probably which means she could be borderline 411 yeah because they usually like bump it up yeah although when you're five feet i don't know i like they're like let's give her five feet yeah i just what about madonna she must be four she must also be five feet they say she's five foot three no way well also like older people like shrink yeah but she's not that old she's almost 70 she was listed at five five at one point yeah so she's shrunk a few inches oh my god that's a lot that's a lot of inches though because i also don't think she's five three how old is madonna 68 i looked it up last last night i thought she was older to be honest no no i thought she was younger no yeah not by much i think she's looks the eight yeah yeah younger because of the plastic because of the stuff that she's done and what and and she's wearing some sort of she's she wears some sort of butt pad situation i think too like i think she's got something going on she's got a lot going on yeah yeah she's got a lot going on that woman yep yep i mean like i said absolute it's madonna it's madonna but when you when you just like it's almost like it's like a like a shame ritual or something like it's you saying like it's literally gonna say it's almost like when you break like you're like oh come on her her reputation yeah it's like they don't reputation but like her legacy yeah yeah it's like yeah she doesn't have to be doing these things yeah is what i'm like why is her team like let's make the vmas about madonna i don't know i don't know maybe she needs some money i doubt it though yeah possibly yeah yeah yeah yeah i don't know it just feels like she's so yeah excuse me she like paved the way whatever and then like she goes up on the vmas and like rambles on for five minutes and you're just like, what is going on? It's almost better to preserve the image. Exactly. Oh, the last one was a big one. This is going to sound like it was also an integrated ad, but it's not. But my god, Duncan paid the big bucks for that level of integration. Yeah, they really did. Because not only was there multiple pumpkin spice commercials starring Rachel Dratch. Rachel Dratch, boobs to the gods. Up to her chin. Boobs out the wazoo. I said, you know what? Good for you, Rachel Dratch. You're out there, pumpkin spice. No, literally. I was like, good for her. Wearing like a structured dress. Boobs out the wazoo. I was like, she looks good. I did laugh that Kevin posted on his story a picture and was like Kevin who? Kevin Clancy. It was like, KFC posted a picture of Rachel Dratch and a story of her up on the stage in the dress. And I was like, Rachel, you better look out. Drake's going to come calling. I was cracking up. That's hilarious. Yeah, they must have played that pumpkin spice ad 50 times. And full integration, you know, it's like they play the ad oh my god, she's pumpkin spice and they bring out baby spice with her. Pumpkin spice the whole thing. They had that plan going for a while. Claire had a good note. She was like, it's kind of iconic, like baby spice handing Madonna an award. Totally. Like a crossover of music. Yeah. Yep. There's some, but it just, it doesn't resonate as hard with the kids. No, it really doesn't. Doesn't resonate as hard with the kids. It really doesn't, unfortunately. But it is very very iconic. The whole thing was great. I thought the whole concept for the commercial was very smart. Yeah, it was funny. You know, it was very funny. And Rachel Dratch is hilarious. She called her Rachel Douche. Yeah. That was like the one funny part. Dratch, it's Dratch. Yeah, yeah. That was funny. But good stuff. Still on the Taylor train. Encore songs were released. We had Patient Zero, Cleveland, Pink Clouding, and Babylon all come out on Friday. We've set the internet on fire once again. Yep. The people don't know how to act. Yeah, I just don't get it, really. Because, like, you know, an artist puts out music and the music sucks. You're like, oh yeah, the music sucks. Like, I'm not really, like, I'm not gonna talk about it, whatever. Yeah, yeah. Taylor Swift puts out music and it's like, Well, she puts out songs that people don't like and then people have to go to the length of like, she's ruined her legacy and everything she's done and wiped all her other songwriting goes out the window because she puts out songs like this, which I think is pretty unfair. Now, look, G and I both like all of these songs. Shocker. Shocker. And I will say because I had a feeling that I would get the, like, you're just offending it because so many people are hating it kind of vibe, which I've done sometimes. Like, I have felt that way sometimes when people so go, maybe I haven't loved it, but people have gone so hard against it that I'm like, well, this is making me like it more. I like these right off the bat without even seeing any discourse. Like, 12.05 a.m. I texted Gia being like, Cleveland is so fucking funny. I love this song. And then everyone was like, this is the worst song I've ever heard. I was like, oh shit, I'm on the other side of this. I mean, to be honest, and there's video evidence, I was live, like, I did not like it when I first listened to it. I was like, what did I just listen to? What was that? And I almost like needed to process it for a second because it's not what I thought it was going to sound like at all. And then the second one, I was like, okay, wait, like, you just gotta, like, move your body a little bit. And then you're like, wait, this song is so fun and cute and silly. And that's the whole point of it. It's not supposed to be this lyrically dense, melancholic song that makes you feel everything. It's a fun song. It's a sweet song. It's a silly song. It's a showgirl song. Yeah. That is where I also fell into this, and I hadn't thought about it too much, but you know who actually posted her opinion? And I thought, wow, that's so smart. It makes so much sense. Anna Redmond, who is, she was on The Bachelor. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She's big on TikTok. She posted a TikTok where basically, like, just relaying it all back to the idea of what a showgirl is, sort of that surface level performance. You don't really get to see the person behind the character and all those things where, like, so many of these songs sort of fall. And also, like, it's just like, you know, there's different songs for different people. Like, there's, you know, from the start of her career. People seem to have hated Cleveland so hard that it's like, ruining the opinions on the other ones, because then people are like, well, wait, the other ones are very enjoyable. If you want, like, a sad song with, like, good lyrics and, like, makes you think, like, Babylon I think is just as good, is just a great song for that kind of vibe. Like, throughout her whole career, she's always done this. She's, you know, look at 1989. You have Stay, Stay, Stay, Shake It Off and then you have Clean. You have This Love. Red, you have We Are Never Getting Back Together and then you have State of Grace. You have Treacherous, you know, like, she's always had a wide range of songs and I just don't understand why people are acting like this is, like, the first time she's ever put out a quirky song with silly lyrics. For sure. It's like she's been doing this since the start of her career. Yeah, I don't know why, but it's like, I guess it happens almost every time new music is released by her and I don't think I was just maybe just aware enough and, of course, social media now amplifies it all so much more. Yeah. But it has kind of happened with all of her releases where it's like, oh, that, like, 1989, those people that loved that sound, then when Folklore came out, they were like, this is so depressing, I don't like it, but the critics loved it, and then when you go back and she does more of this, it's like, oh, well, the girly pops love it, but the critics hate it. She's gotten panned throughout her whole career. When Shake It Off was put out, everybody sharted it on that song. When me, Shake It Off was, yeah, yeah, yeah. So many of these songs. I hated me when me came out. Me too. I was post-Tony Stark dying. I go, oh my god, let me put on the new Taylor Swift, make me feel better, and I was like, oh my god, I'm gonna throw up in my car. What is this song? We Are Never Getting Back Together also was one that I was like, I hate this. Yes, but as you listen to it, it's like an earworm that grows on you. It's fun. And if you listen to Shake It Off, We Are Never Getting Back Together, especially live, so fun. So fun to dance to. All those things, and it's like, this is not the first time that Taylor has put out an album where everyone's like, oh my god, she's the worst, she can't write, she can't do this. And they'll all come back around. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Give it a year, give it two years. People are already starting to do it with Showgirl. People did it with TTPD. It's too long, it's too boring. Jack and Aaron, it's too repetitive. She's done this before, blah, blah, blah. Now it's Max Martin and Shellback. Oh, where's Jack and Aaron? Where's the sad music? Where's the lyrics? Blah, blah, blah. It's a pattern. I really remember, too, when TTPD came out that people really didn't like it. People were shitting on it, and it's one of her best albums. And now, of course, everyone's like, oh, I miss this, I miss that. I want L.O.M.L. I want Peter. Blah, blah, blah. And it's like, girl, so go listen to it. Yeah, those songs still exist. It's totally fine. And these are fun, and Cleveland to me is a funny song, and I think she laughed making it. I think she was like, the idea of this is hilarious. Like, hey, you guys are literally, I think she's like, make fun of me all you want, guys. My guy took me to fucking Cleveland. And I know she knows how funny that is. The whole point of the song, I think, is to be very tongue-in-cheek. Yes, yeah. And silly, and you can, and I think it's getting, like, almost the same reception that, like, Wood is getting. When it's like, God forbid a girl gets a little silly with it. Yeah. Now, Noah, I know you hate it all, so you want to give your opinion for two seconds? I actually, um, like, Pink Clouding was kind of a, I liked it. Yeah. Okay. Um, I think Cleveland. I don't want to argue with you, I just wanted, I know that there are people that also really fucking hate the song, so I was like, you can be the voice of those people. I mean, I don't want to say anything. But, no, I think Cleveland. Yeah, I think it is your opinion. Yeah, it's so, it's very fine. You can say you hate Cleveland. I think it's crazy. I think it's, I think that I also think that if another artist put out that song, you wouldn't, you would be making fun of it. Yeah, but, like, so many artists do put out songs like that. Do they? Okay, okay. Let me just say something. Espresso? Yeah. That's that me Espresso? I don't think that's the same. Espresso means nothing. That song means, lyrically, that song means nothing. No, but that song's, like, a bop. Whereas this song sounds like. Cleveland is a bop. It sounds. I like the production of it. The production, everyone's making fun of, like, it sounding like The Office song. Yes. Yeah. But, like, I don't know. But then she kind of made the lyric video sort of look like the opening of, like, a 90s sitcom. Yeah, I think so. It almost felt like that was on purpose. You and Kelly are friends with that Swiftologist person? No. No, you're not? They hate each other. They're feud. Oh, really? I thought you guys were. They're feuders. Well, because she was going in. We tried to squash it, but we had beef. Beef over, like, disagreements about Taylor, or.? No, he thought we were talking shit about him on our show when we were at because I was going to say, like, it was interesting to see there were, like, real Swifties who were like, this is. I wouldn't even consider him a real Swiftie, but. He's had a bit of a downfall, I would say, recently. He, like, has these crash. Like, everything she's put out recently, he has not liked. Yeah. But, so that's the thing. It's like, if you don't like it, are you, like, you're not a Swiftie then? Like, you have to like every. But it's almost like the way that he talks about it that makes him not a real Swiftie. It comes from, like, a. It comes from, like, a not a nice place. Yeah. Like, it's not like. You could be like, hey, I love her, I really don't like this song. Like, he blames it on, like, Travis. And it's like. That was one of the funnier tweets that I saw. I was like, if you had told me like five years ago that Travis Kelce would be like the Yoko Ono of this generation. It's so crazy. It is so crazy. So crazy. It's like, okay, just because she married Travis doesn't mean she just completely lost the ability to write a song. And she was like not with, I mean, yeah, she kind of was with Travis at the end of TTB, so High School and The Alchemy. Those are all great songs. It's just, I hate that. So much of TTB, I think she was with Travis. Probably. What do you think about the people who are like, how many hater songs can you write saying you're not affected by the haters when you're just continuing to write songs about the haters? Yeah, I guess that makes sense. I accept that. Because also the thing is, it's like, this is a song about Travis, but it almost feels more about like, ha ha ha, like I hate my haters. But it's less about like, I'm in love with Travis and more like, fuck you to the haters. But Travis is not meant to be, in my opinion. It's not meant to be taken that seriously. Like, it's not like, it's not that deep. Like, I think it's supposed to be a joke. Everything with her is that deep. No, it kind of isn't though. And I think like, what was that whole big sit down she did? New York Times interview? Yeah, yeah. Or the Grammys one. The Grammys one. That clip resurfaced of her being like, so, you know, the fans will say like, oh, she can't write anymore. Like, she wants to do these happy songs. Why can't we all do like the sad songs? And she was like, I think there's something really fun about writing like a silly, superficial like song, basically, is what she was saying. This has nothing to do with anything we're talking about. But I actually was talking to Kelly because when I first listened to Cleveland, I thought that the first, I could be completely wrong. But I swear when I was listening to it, I thought she did it purposely. I thought that it sounded like she was like interpolating like Mr. Brightside. If you listen back to it, like the way that she's singing, I was like, this is like, I thought it was actually cool at first. Because I listened back to it. I'm telling you, like, it's like, it was just a kiss. Like, it sounds like the same thing. Yeah, she was only a. Yeah, but I was looking up and I didn't see anyone else saying that. So I was like, maybe I was just lying. Oh, interesting. No, you should post about it. Go viral. Yeah, be the one to open up that discussion. Yeah. Yeah. But no, I think it's supposed to be like a fun, silly song. I think Travis has songs that are. Sentimental and beautiful. Oh, you know what I wanted to bring up? That I watched Jalen Brunson on SNL with Cat's Eye. Yeah. Do you want to talk about bad song? Bad songs? Oh, Hootie Fruity. Song lyrics? Listen to Hootie Fruity again and tell me that's good songwriting. But half of those aren't even in English, right? They're so fucking popular. No, it's in English. They are in English. It's in English. There's only one Korean girl. Oh, really? They're not K-pop. They are a global girl group. Listen to the lyrics of Hootie Fruity. That just shows you because I'm like, I don't understand. That's what I'm saying. I thought it was a different language. Like, every artist puts out stupid songs like this. By the way, speaking of SNL, can we just say. They sang Hootie Fruity at SNL. I went, oh my God. Wait, speaking of SNL, can we just say that, like, obviously the Knicks fans are just going to gas him up no matter what, but like, Jalen Brunson has no charisma. He couldn't read a line off the teleprompter to save his life. It was. It fell a little flat. But that, like. OG was the funniest because he was just playing into his, like. Every sketch was basketball. Yeah, my thing, though. How do we incorporate basketball into this? But, like, they were working with what he can do. Yes. Which I think is fair. And I thought, like, that made sense. I'm glad they didn't push him too far where it was, like, he really is struggling. You could tell he was nervous when he came out. Yeah. But he also, like, he just. But we all sort of know that that's his personality. But that's kind of his vibe, right? I didn't expect him to come out and have, like, Travis Kelsey level of, like, getting into it. I think. And maybe he was playing into it a little bit, too, like, into the schtick of, like, I don't smile. I guess. But I was. I'm on the same page as you. But, yeah, I was like, of course, like, this is really bad. And then I opened Twitter and it's just all Knicks fans being like. Yeah, of course. We love you, Jalen. That was hilarious. No, I think the only funny. I thought that the, like, High School Musical remake one was funny. I kind of tuned out, like. I liked that one. I thought the High School Musical one was funny. But I didn't finish the whole episode. But, um. Here, Noah, let me read you some of the lyrics to Hootie Fruity. Hey, cutie cutie, I see you looking. Because when I walk in the party, they're like, who's she? Carry my matcha, Mount Valley water. I like my mochi drenched in chocolata. And then it just goes, Hootie Fruity, Hootie Fruity, Hootie Fruity. But they're. I would expect that from a K-pop type band or a group. But Taylor Swift is, like, one. She just got, like, what is that songwriting, like, award or whatever. Like, she is known for her. Yeah, that's true. That's true. But you know what? God Forbidden Girl wants to have a little fun every once in a while and not, like, write stuff that's super deep and depressing. That's so impressive. When Folklore came out, I was like, this is awesome. Yeah. This is just, like, a completely different artist to me. Yeah, yeah. Well, that's the beautiful thing about being. It's like, God forbid, a woman genre shifts. No, no, but it's also, like, isn't that what's. But Beyonce genre shifts, and I'm like, every single genre she does is just a banger. Isn't that what's so impressive for an artist to be able to do that, though? I also think you have, like, a personal bias. Is it fun to piss off Taylor Swift fans? Yes. But I. But if Taylor. You liked everything on. Did you like everything on Renaissance? I honestly did. Okay. Yeah, yeah. I'm going to say I was going to. I'm surprised by that. No, no. I mean, maybe not every single song, but I liked it. I also feel like. Like, have you listened to, like, Midnight's? Like, I feel like. No, I mean, I definitely listen to, like, some of them. But that's not my, like. I actually like 1989. Yeah. Like, I like Folklore. Like, I'm not, like, anti-everything Taylor Swift. Yeah, I like Evermore. Not, like, because that's in the same vein as Folklore, but. Well, then you would like TTPD if you like Folklore and Evermore. Evermore. Yeah. There's some good ones on there. I don't think I ever, like, hated any of those. Yeah, yeah. So. Like, this. He doesn't like the machine of Taylor Swift, you know? Sure. It's also more just to piss people off. It's fun. Yeah, yeah. It's fun to watch you guys get really mad. I saw your stupid comment on Instagram, and I was like, I'm literally going to unfollow him again. How many vinyls is she going to put out? Yeah. See, but that's why it's fun. That's why he enjoys it. Because it just gets under your skin. Yeah. I got to say, at this point. At this point, like, now, it used to bother me. It doesn't. Now, I'm just like, okay. Troll Noah. Because I'm only doing it for that reason. I'm not like. Yeah, no, I know. And the funny thing is that people who don't know that take it really, like, personally. Yeah, take it very personally. I'm like, I'm joking. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's really not that big of a deal. It is just funny, though, because it really is. It's like, I posted on my story, the commentary is so funny, where it's like, girl. Like, these TikTok comments, the top one was like, Cleveland. Wait, people actually hate Cleveland? Like, this song is so fun. And then the next one is like, this is the worst song that's ever been written. Like, this is so bad. Yeah. It's so funny. But it's just, have you, like, openly hated a Taylor Swift song? Yes. Like, recently? Or, like, what was it? She just didn't mention. She just mentioned a few that she hated. I did. I hated me. I don't like Thank You, Amy. I think that's a bad song. All right. This is going to be just what we clip out. Oh, my God. Please. I've been vocal about how I don't like Thank You, Amy. I've been vocal about. I will always say if I don't like a Taylor song, I did not like Cleveland the first time I listened to it. Yeah. And the second time, I was like, wait, I actually think I do like it. You can't help it. Here's the thing. It just got stuck in my head so quickly. Do you like the song or do you like that she's in love? No, I like the song. I like the song. I'm not even kidding. You know what? Because I've got a lot of people that are like, oh, I'm happy for her. You hate, like, the back production of it. Like, that's what I love the most. I was like. It gets stuck in your head. It's just stuck in my head. It's been playing nonstop. Yeah. I think it's fun. Yeah. I definitely think, like, there's just. Like, you know, with Canceled, like, I always make fun of that song because it's like, good thing I like my friend. Like, it's silly, but. It is funny that, like, she keeps mentioning New Heights. I mean, she's mentioned it twice. Well. Yeah. And also, I mean, he's from Cleveland Heights. That's where he's from. No, I know. But obviously, that's like a play on. Yeah. Yeah. That's where he's from, the podcast, too. Where she's like. He took me to the Heights. Yeah, but like. That's where he lives. The Heights is Cleveland. No, I know, but it's a double entendre, you know? Well, the name of the podcast is because that's where they live. No, I know, but clearly, like, it's referencing the podcast. Well, in Wood, yeah. I would think if people hear that, they think podcast first. Yeah, I guess. I certainly did not. I thought. No, I thought Cleveland. I was like, he took me to Cleveland, took me, showed me the Heights. That's what he says, right? Showed me the Heights. In my mind, I was like, that's his hometown. Wood is more of, like, a direct reference to the show, the podcast. Yeah, yeah, that felt more podcast-shoutout. New Heights of manhood. Yeah, yeah. This one was like, he was like, ooh, I'm taking me to the hometown. Yeah. I also think that it sounds a bit like a Christmas song, which I love. Like, I love a Christmas song. Yeah, me too. Like, it's just, like, sleigh bells. I saw people be like, I'm getting on the Polar Express to Cleveland. I said, same. Yeah, we've got to get our ass to Cleveland. I laugh because very early in me and Joe's relationship, we went on a trip to Cleveland. We went on a trip to Cleveland. And when I shared it, I was like, damn. Me, when Joe took me to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. We had a great, we had a weekend in Cleveland. This was years ago. We went to a Cavs game. Khloe Kardashian was there because Tristan was on the team at the time. This was, like, 2018. Why did you go? We went with his dad. I don't really know why. Like, we just, like, had, I don't know. We were like, he wants to take us to the game. Or something. So we went to the game. Don't sleep on Cleveland, y'all. And we spent a whole afternoon at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, which is sick. The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is so cool. They have some cool Taylor stuff in there. It's a very, very, very cool museum. And we had a great meal at a steakhouse and then we left. And that was our. Don't sleep on Cleveland. And that was our weekend in Cleveland. And you know what? And also shout out to all our listeners from Cleveland because when I posted that, they were like, can you fucking do a show in Cleveland? This might have been when you were not here, but we were saying that too. Like, we've gone to Cincinnati, Columbus. We've done all the other Ohio. Yeah. Damn. Cleveland's next. Cleveland's on the next tour. Yeah. And that'll be the song you walk out to. Yeah, we'll just play the song nonstop. Duh. Sorry to the people in Cleveland that don't like this song. Yeah, I feel like if you're from Cleveland, you have to like the song. And if you don't like it, that's unfortunate. Yeah. But I think Pink Clouding and Babylon are my top two. They're so good. I know. I think I'm actually. I think I would rank. And I like them all, so it's not even like this is necessarily last. But I think I would go Babylon. Cleveland, Pink Clouding, Patient Zero. Ooh. I think I'd go Babylon, Pink Clouding, Cleveland, Patient Zero. Yeah. Something about the. I like Patient Zero. It's catchy. I don't love. I don't like the bridge. Yeah, me neither. Which is unfortunate because there's like. When she does the talky talk stuff, I like it when it's in a song that makes sense. Yeah. Like when the song is kind of like. Like in a song like Cleveland, it makes sense. Yeah. You know? In Patient Zero, I was like, ooh, this could have had a really. Really big. Cool, big bridge. Yeah. That would have fit the song more. And I would have liked it better than the talky bridge in Patient Zero. Because I felt like. And she just has the best bridges where I was like, that could have been the moment for a really big one in that one. And then leave the talky talk to Cleveland. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. I totally agree. Yeah. And then the last thing is Sabrina Carpenter and Margaret Qualley have been cast in. The Fred Astaire biopic starring Tom Holland. This. I don't know when this is coming out, but Tom Holland has been teasing this for a while. It's been five years since he teased this project. But I feel like Spider-Man's taken up a lot of his time. Super fair. Now he's got to get in the dance studio. He's got to start dancing. And it seems like, you know, if they're just got these castings, there's no way. Late 2027 or 2028. Got it. Yeah, that's. It's going to be a while. So Fred, Margaret, is playing Adela Stare, his sister, and then Sabrina Carpenter's playing Ginger Rogers. Fred and Ginger Rogers, they starred in 10 Hollywood musicals together during the classic age of Hollywood cinema. Top Hat, Swing Time, Shall We Dance, Holiday Inn, Easter Parade, Bandwagon, Funny Face, Funny Face. Funny Face. Funny Face. That's the one everyone talks about. Silk Stockings. A lot of good ones. Interesting. Yeah, I'm super excited for this. I feel like they're the perfect duo, Sabrina and Tom. And you said this earlier, but Sabrina's going to make Tom look super, super tall, which is good. And I wonder what the dynamic between him and his sis. Right, right, right. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He does a little singing. Oh, he does singing in the rain in the beginning of the umbrella thing. Yes, yes, yes. Which has nothing to do with Fred Astaire. Yes, which has nothing to do with him. I'm always confusing all this old stuff because Funny Face is Fred Astaire and Audrey Hepburn. Got it. That's right. And then Ginger Rogers is just another. You just hear the names where you're like, I know the name, but I haven't watched. All those old movies I really have not seen. No. Ginger Rogers won an Academy Award for Best Actress for her starring role in Kitty Foyle in 1940. And she performed during the 1930s. 1930s in RKO's musical films with Fred Astaire. She lived till she was 83. She died in 1995. Wow. I was going to say Fred Astaire living to 1988. It's kind of shocking. Crazy, right? Wow. Ginger Rogers was married one, two, three, four, five times. Good for her. Get those rings, Thanos. Multiple guy named Jack. There was a Jack Pepper, a Jack Bridges, and a Jacques. Ooh. Jacques Cousteau. And she went French. Yeah. Interesting. All divorced. You know. And she was only married for like, her first marriage, she was married for two years. Second marriage, six years. Third marriage, five years. Oh, no. Yeah, five years. So maybe it was a Evelyn Hugo. Oh, six years. Evelyn Hugo situation. Six years. Jacques, four years. The last one, eight years. She was really, yeah. Damn. But yeah. So it says in 1930s, Rogers' nine films with Fred Astaire were credited for revolutionizing the musical genre. It says online that they never were like a couple. No, I don't think they were ever together. Interesting. Yeah. Deep artistic admiration for each other. Yeah. My guess is the movie throws a little. Makes them a little. Yeah. Yeah. I think solely for the sake of the movie, they'll like do something. Yeah. I mean, it's also like times change, but you see two people dancing. They're dancing together. You're going to be like, wait, they look kind of cute together. Right, right, right. And maybe some of Ginger's husbands will be throwing the mix. But I love this casting. I think it's so really, really good one. And I'm glad that it like panned out the way it was going to because the rumored for a while, the last few months, the rumored casting was like these two. Okay. People online were like, oh, we hope it's Margaret Qualley and Sabrina Carpenter. Okay, love. Or just like they want it because I guess Margaret Qualley has a ballet background. Right. Yeah. You know whose name was sort of in the mix a lot too was Monica Barbaro. Oh, I was going to say, I imagine it's Timothee Chalamet. Who also has a ballet background. Oh my God, imagine. Yeah. Who also has like a big dance background. So I thought maybe she could play Adele Astaire as well. I feel like Sabrina's Coachella performance was like a very good precursor to her dancing skills and stuff. Almost a type of audition. Yeah, totally. You know? Totally. These TikTok edits. These TikTok edits are unreal. Yeah, they look great. They're going to look great together. I watched the Tom Holland lip sync battle like at least once a month. We watched it with our mom. Yeah, she had never seen it. Like a couple of weeks ago. She had never seen it. Yeah, it's so good. It is so good. They're going to crush it. And I'm excited to see Sabrina back acting. Yeah. You forget. Yeah, you forget. Girl Meets World. People forget she starred on the Disney Channel. She was in The Muppets last year. Oh yeah, that was cute too. That was cute. She's also in that movie, The Hate U Give. I don't know if anyone's seen it. Good movie. I don't think I have seen that. But that's all. That's very excited for that. Yeah, super excited. That wraps up the topics. The Weekly Watch Report is brought to you by Chase Sapphire Preferred. If you're someone who loves to travel, dine out, or plan your next getaway, the Chase Sapphire Preferred card is worth checking out. One of my favorite things about it is that you're earning rewards on purchases that you're already making. 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They were kind of teeing up the ending, I felt, like, the whole way. And I saw a very interesting interview with Zoe Zaldana where she was like, I don't know what, um, like, where they're going to take it for a season four. But season three ended in such a way that I was like, oh, well, there's obviously a season four. Like, it felt like, oh, there has to be a season four. But she made it sound like, I don't know if there's a season four. Because she's also working with Taylor Sheridan and they were like, would you do any other season four? And she was like, absolutely not. Not absolutely not, but she was like, I'm good, like, with doing Lioness. Like, I, you know, this has been a pretty grueling show to do. And I don't think I need to do another, like, Taylor Sheridan production. Right. And she's an EP on Lioness as well, so obviously has to work with him very closely. But I really was, like, more surprised that she said, oh, I'm not sure where a season four would go because the way season three ended, it was like, there has to be a season four. The way season three ends, like, ties it all back to the first season. Which made me think season two was kind of pointless, but that's fine. But I thought the episode seven of the season was really the best, was, felt like more of almost a finale. But then season eight, you get sort of the tease. You get the reason why basically the entire season happened, which, which was good. The whole season for me as a whole was, was great. The whole season as a whole for me was like an A minus. This final episode. was probably a B. um final episode and then i'm so far behind on lantern still but joe and i are trying to catch up i watched episode i watched episode four i think seven's out what was last night seven uh i don't even know was sun yeah yes yeah shit okay so i've watched four i watched four i had a bunch of guys jump on i watched four that was a great episode i'm a little like slightly confused mildly not a lot but like mildly just following the story of like how everybody's connected and after last night i finally feel like you understand more like okay now i know do you get what i'm saying like episode episode four episode four is when um the wife gets blown up oh sorry spoiler the wife gets the wife of the of i don't know any of their names the one that he sleeps with oh yeah yeah yeah and i'm like i was like what i was like why are you confused i was like what's going on i forget how that ends i don't know no no because it's it's it ended fairly open and open-ended i'm just like also confused like what like the guardians if the guardians want in my mind i'm like if the guardians want um kyle chandler out so bad like just kill him i'm like i don't know why they are keeping him around if they clearly want him out so badly anyway i'm sure all my questions will be answered if i just continue watching episode four i'll give a b plus that was i thought it was very good i feel like it'll get better as a episode five was the one that you said felt like it was almost a finale type episode yeah so i'm excited to watch that one um i'm caught up on roni new real houses of new york season i'm enjoying it i'll give it a b i really like the new people that they threw in there there are some crazies in the mix which is always good i need jessel to like rein it in a little bit that's my thoughts on like jessel i feel like jessel practices her lines in the mirror before she goes and talks to people because she has like these like zinger like she throws out these one-liners and i'm like these aren't coming off the cuff jessel is a crazy name yeah you're really you're really practicing these ones so i just need her to kind of rein it in a little bit these new people are fairly nuts which is good tv i love having carol back so yeah that's a b i finished the next gen reunion part two some good stuff i really i really enjoyed this season i think like they have a great launching pad for more to come the drama with ariana and all the guys obviously created a good season i think adding the new people was good charlie is is an absolute nutcase so that makes for good tv ariana was actually in the ariana and gia were actually in the suite with me at the hair style show love um was chatting with them a little bit i just like ariana in the last episode of the reunion was really beating herself up for you know there was just a lot of boy drama and she liked this one boy she kisses another boy she beats herself up for doing that she's like 24 yeah and i i felt like uh i felt like a sister almost as i introduced myself to her in the suite and i was like i just have to say like you were so good on the season like don't beat yourself up you're you're young in new york you're having fun like live your life do not be afraid like do not beat yourself up for for making these kinds of what you think are like major mistakes it is so fine yeah um and she was lovely so next gen part two reunion i i'll give a b plus very good i'm behind i've been watching girl actually you know i'm behind on girls trip which is annoying because they keep talking about girls trip and other shows so i feel like i'm i'm missing out on stuff so like city is also back up on that very sad start to the season because mary cosby lost her son yes at the beginning of this year and that's kind of where it all picks up um so it was very sad to see all that i commend mary so much for just like still wanting to tell her story and like share what she's going through and have this all be out in the out in the open and it was it was very nice to see all the women attempt to come back together and support mary and realize that there's a lot more bigger issues than the stupid stuff that they are that they fight about all those and all those things um i watched so the first two episodes are out i'll give that a i'll give that a b as well i really do love salt lake city it's one of my one of my favorites they also threw a new girl in the mix that was introduced in the second episode that feels like another nutcase i say positive yeah like she also seems incredibly incredibly entertaining i watched the entirety of i finished crew girl why i why i watched this whole show i don't know but it wrote me in after i got into a couple episodes and i was like uh is she gonna go back to rowing will they beat westvale i don't know i have to i have to know what goes on um it did get renewed i'd also already was renewed for a second season so i was like all right well maybe i'll jump into this i i can't say like i hated it because i watched the whole thing is it like off campus level or anything like that absolutely not yeah um surly point like all those all those no this is more of uh uh my life with the walter boys type vibe yeah where it's another one where i'm like i can't stop watching despite it being terrible yeah uh and the premise of this is like it's been done a million times they just put them on a like they just decided to pick a different sport yeah where it's like maybe let's make a more of a niche sport that uh isn't this is like oh girl plays baseball or whatever it is crew her father becomes her father like it commits uh fraud he's like a big hotel owner commits like steals people's money commits fraud the fbi is looking for him he disappears so they have to go back to the town that her mom grew up in of course we have the parallel stories of the mom maybe having a thing with the a local crew guy when she was growing up but she ended up picking the other guy who ends up being rich the whole thing you know live this whole lavish life now the daughter maybe has a thing with the local financial aid kid because they're at this they're at this prep school that looks like hogwarts and she likes him but then also the douchey rich guy starts coming around where she's like oh maybe he actually has a good heart despite being the douchey rich guy and drama ensues there's some twists that i didn't expect i'm not gonna lie so and and she the the main girl tegan is her character's name is stunning like oh my god one of the most beautiful people she is so adorable and there's there's some cuties it's not like i'm not dying over them you know where i'm like we're not at belmont camelli level here right but they're cute they're you know and uh like i said got renewed for second season i'll give it a c i watched the whole thing so yeah you can't it can't be that bad no exactly and like every time i was like next episode so finish all that um love hypothesis is out which i know you also watched which we can talk about i had watched it a couple weeks ago because we had watched it before tom bateman came in who just been watching more interviews of him spoon like love daddy he is so cute so hot me and rio the presidents of the tom bateman fan club he is he's amazing and i thought the movie was really cute i know that there's always so much book to movie discourse especially in this genre where the fans want the movie to be paged by the fans and they want the movie to be paged word for word what happens in the book and you just can't do that like it's just impossible to do you can't fit everything into a into a you know hour 45 movie and people always get upset about that but i thought the movie was cute so i'm not so cute like and i really like the book too i really like the book too but um you know the people i can't believe they left this out i can't believe they left that out i'm like okay well i thought they did a great job with what they have right i thought lily and tom had amazing chemistry so cute i agree so many great moments yeah he played a great brood like a great like mean but softy yeah totally it was really really good i never read the book so yeah yeah yeah yeah i didn't go in with any expectations and i'm glad i'm even better honestly yeah i was gonna say i'm glad because i think it made me like it way more because there was no nothing to disappoint me whatever and yeah i thought they had amazing chemistry i thought that the storyline was cute i thought that the friendship between on and olive was really really cute they built that out way more in the movie yeah like um i thought that was like one of the better parts of it was that relationship and yeah i really enjoyed it i thought it was really cute i was like kicking and screaming on my tv same and you know what is um maybe not the best thing but at the same time it is good for me when we do this whole book to movie thing is i read a book i love it i hate it whatever it is like i remember what happens we've talked about this on book club i remember what happens for like four to six months yeah yeah like i can actually tell you what happens in the book for a very short amount of time and then it and then i'm like fuck what happens in that book and i totally forget which is great because like when that now when i go to watch them i'm like yeah i read the book it was cute i liked it yeah and i remember the premise i'm like oh you know she meets the the the the teacher everybody hates and like whatever they they do the whole fake dating thing so i remember the whole like premise of it but the people that remember like scene for scene like what happened all these things like people were really mad that maybe there was like maybe a certain character that got left in left out yeah it's like his friend yes and when i tell you i saw that on threads or like afterwards and i was like totally forgot about that totally forgot about that person yeah like it's just like out of my minds which has been nice because i can enjoy the movie way more i know people like to read the book before the movie comes out too or if you read the book a while ago and then you want to reread it before you watch it again and then you want to reread it again and then you want to reread it before the movie comes out i think that like hurts it sometimes because then you have this whole different idea and now you've read the book twice yeah and you are really in the know of what happens and then you're critiquing every little thing in the movie like oh that's not that's not how that's not how it happened that's not how this happened the whole thing yeah so it's just like more of like an adaptation than a book to film remake yeah like they're just adapting the story yeah yeah unfortunately some things are going to get left off yeah um and whatnot so yeah yeah yeah if you were to read you read harry potter and then you watch all those movies you're like i can't believe there's certain characters that didn't make and you can see it in a positive way it's like yeah the book has its parts that make it gray and the movie has its parts that make it gray if you want what happens in the book go read the book yeah i give love hypothesis a b plus i give it a b yeah that's a good one yeah um anything else you're currently watching um i watch the willy wonka um i watch the willy wonka the willy wonka game show is on netflix it is so strange it looks so bizarre yet entertaining it is so bizarre they use an ai voice of gene wilder oh which really is oh i don't like that really don't like it and then they randomly changed to nick cannon i'm like did they run out of money for the ai like wait all of a sudden nick cannon becomes the host yes and then howard couldn't find a host and they're not there they're uh like like you know those like fake like hologram thing yeah yeah yeah things they're like in those oh yeah so it's very strange wide array of people for the cast there's these two older women um that were so funny they were cracking me up they remind me of chips and salsa the eagles you know those two eagles ladies yeah they really reminded me of them um did you watch the willy wonka game show didn't finish it but we did watch four episodes and what's it are they funding for money three million dollars okay that is a lot of money yeah i mean it's got to be that it's got to be a lot to sign up and you like come in with a duo okay and like you could either stay with your duo or like someone gets eliminated then you're on your own blah blah blah there's this one woman who is just so annoying so it's a good cast of people there's like a guy who brought his grandpa papa papa poppy he's so cute i love grandpa joe yeah legit yeah yeah yeah um so it was fun it was entertaining interesting like games and twists it's very twisty like sort of like a squid games but like obviously not scary like yeah kind of but it does kind of have like an ominous tone yeah yeah well because yeah yeah because they're like you will be terminated at least they don't use ai johnny depp i just yeah i was like wait is that jane wilder's voice and then i think i think that there was a big uproar about it the ai of gene wilder whatever yeah um but yeah i don't know who thought of it they must have been smoking something crazy because the show is crazy but it is entertaining so if you like game shows like that reality shows like that i recommend it it's interesting because it's interesting dynamics with like you you bring your mom there's a couple a boyfriend and a girlfriend you know cousins sisters whatever best friends so it's interesting like that um and then i would give that i would give that a b minus yeah because it was entertaining and silly but you're kind of just like what is this like why why are we doing this doesn't really make any sense i feel like they could have the whole willy wonka of it all maybe is what throws me off because i was never really a big willy wonka fan anyways um and then i actually watched the full season of adults do you watch the show no i haven't watched it yet so funny second season right yeah um it's like owen teal jack and ann um loved it the the girl who plays isa i forgot her name but she's so funny the whole time like their whole dynamic is so funny it's very realistic um the episodes are quick they're like 20 30 minutes um well i will my millennial humor not understand the gen z of it all no i think it toes the line pretty well okay yeah because the the kids are like my age maybe a little younger i think they're supposed to be like 25 26 i'm 27 so it's not that big of a difference um but it's just like super funny and jack and ann is so cute so i'm gonna give that a a minus okay great yeah speaking of johnny depp um did you got any of you see that trailer for the new movie he has coming out with madeline klein and penelope cruz no you gotta watch it i don't know what i don't know what it is and i don't know who i love i don't i love madeline klein so much i don't know who on her team told her to do a johnny depp movie but i'm like i was i'm confused is it the scrooge no oh because he's playing scrooge too i'm pretty sure no this is i don't even know what i don't even know how to describe what this movie is interesting i forget what and i'm a day drinker day drinker it's it's like i don't know it looks like maybe ghost like no i didn't see anything about this the trailer just came out over the weekend i think excuse me he ascended to us and was like uh-oh but it's so funny because people fucking die for johnny depp like like they really do so like on tiktok all the comments were like on tiktok all the comments were like yes johnny depp is back yeah and you're like wait who's who's paying for these people yeah legit i i don't i don't understand this march the johnny depp love and he has like this he's doing this um irish accent interesting he sort of sounds like conor mcgregor like it's like if you close your eyes like you'd be like that's conor mcgregor well there you go and i don't know they're on some sort of boat but then i like here's the thing this this trailer is two minutes and i have no idea what the premise of the movie is that's kind of good though i i i would prefer like trailers like that to be honest but um no i'll go see this yeah you pause it right when this guy's knife is in his hand so i'm like distracted it's it's being described as a supernatural revenge thriller okay a grieving private yacht bartender madeline klein is mourning the recent loss of her lover her routine gets disrupted when she meets a mysterious heavy drinking on board guest johnny depp the pair becoming tangled with a powerful criminal figure penelope cruz the story evolves into a dark ghostly tale intertwining grief revenge in the afterlife sounds like warner whoever made this movie i don't know if it's a good movie i don't know if it's a good movie i don't know if it's a i don't know paid a lot of money for it so they're like we just gotta put this out it sounds like maybe one too many things happening at one time yeah yeah interesting very interesting yeah love madeline klein love madeline cruz yeah i don't know i johnny depp not so much yeah i was a little conflicted by that um okay no what'd you watch sorry i was just distracted as john mayer made his announcement oh what is it please please announce john mayer's announcement he's doing six nights at the sphere whoa and he's doing it like where his famous live album is where the light is he goes uh meet me where the light is and he's doing solo full band and trio six nights in april whoa what's true in april it's uh him um pino paladino and um why am i blanking on the drummer's name but uh it's basically just like he had a band like so why am i blanking on the drummer's name why can i remember the drummer's name he had a he had um uh steve jordan um like he had he that was the john mayer trio was like his band for a while there's just three of them yeah yeah and they just like got it out but wow okay so all right book our book the flight i was like next week it says uh it's gonna be impossible impossible i can't even imagine uh but yeah wow all right well i'm waiting for the text from joe to be like we're going on the sphere he's can we make this a work trip somehow yeah yeah and i also decided at uh in the midst of in the midst of harry styles we are going to vegas this this weekend um but in the midst of harry styles joe's buddies were trying to buy tickets to oasis oh in vegas and they needed they were like there was three of them and they were like we're in and then they were like wait i was like they needed one more it was like a pack of four the tickets and i was just like in my harry styles bliss and i was like i'll - Let's go. - Oh. - Granted, I wanna see Oasis, I'd love to see Oasis. um it is august vegas in august which doesn't sound great uh however i'm in like is it the sphere just no no it's at the football it's at allegiant oh cool raiders play cool so which i'm i've actually been dying to go to that stadium because it's new and looks really cool um and in my i was like me pick me i'll go and like it's what if joe's friends was like i think fran's really gonna regret this when we're you know up till 6 a.m like blackjack and i was like oh fuck yeah okay fair but i do want to see oasis so i was like i'll i will go but we'll we'll go noah yeah i mean i'm gonna go to as many as i can i'm gonna have to take off you're gonna have to yeah is it is it is it during the week we'll just record in vegas that week so noah has to be at every single night so we're gonna have to record from vegas that week yeah we judge this fear we i feel like um they're msg so they hate us oh it's uh unfortunately well we just reach out to the city of reach out to the city of vegas because they love they love this is why ria need to do a fucking 30 before 30 so she could put this on oh yeah she should just make one and make one now so she can go to the sphere on it six of them are just the six show go to six john mayer shows at the sphere uh wow he changes instagram profile picture that's how you know it's so new era new era you say why don't you do 31 before 31 i i have two weeks oh shit what's your birthday october 15th oh shit 32 before 32 yeah oh you're turning 32 i'm turning 31 but then it would be oh yeah yeah yeah she's getting a head start for next year right there you go um anyways anyways uh yeah what'd you watch i'm caught up on lanterns i i watched last week's and this week's so uh just a great show six and seven yeah six and seven six yeah um last night was awesome kind of like a little uh origin story for kyle chandler a little bit um but this like like i was saying gives you a lot more clarity overall so yeah penultimate episode it's only eight episodes yeah so i feel like finally now we're like in one time period and like now we know kind of what's going on um we're not like going back and forth as much yeah um so i'll give that an a minus those two have been great dancing with the stars i forgot about we got great dancing with the stars oh look my eyeballs were in the were in the ballroom so i was there that was a tough episode really tough episode for a lot of those contestants just why just everyone did bad yeah at least you messed up or a bad dance the only good dances in my opinion were uh ezra and amber no they were both amazing yeah and honestly guillermo yeah come on oh yeah honestly guillermo was like a guillermo deserved at least one five the fact that giotta got fives and gambo did it is is ridiculous yeah yeah i felt that too um what do you grade dancing with the stars i'm gonna be plus yeah just it's an a plus for me but i think it's because that was that's because that was there you're in one you're definitely biased uh i watched primetime with robert pattinson oh what do you think theater to watch that uh very strange yeah which i expected gave that vibe for sure like experimental uh very unique like in terms of the way that it's shot and like the storytelling i mean in terms of like the acting performances like incredible across the board by the way i didn't know that was phoebe bridgers until after i got out of the movie i was like why she looked familiar yeah and then i saw people talk i'm like that was phoebe bridgers yeah uh and what's his face the younger guy was really good um the guy from skylar uncut gem not uncut gems um righteous gemstones yeah yeah yeah he was good um but obviously robert pattinson was amazing yeah um i saw chris hansen did go see the movie like he's posting from the theater his like press conference after seeing it yeah so funny i mean there's like a lot of discourse going on about this movie and and like what the goal of the movie was because i think a lot of people are are saying that it kind of gives the feeling of like you're supposed to feel bad for these pedophiles which is obviously like insane right but that's the underlying tone of a lot of the movie i wouldn't say that that's exactly what i got from it but a lot of people are like what the fuck was that yeah it's more like the the like like like humanizing those people they're trying to make it like chris hansen's a bad guy and you're feeling bad yeah it's more like the the difference of like chris hansen's like hunting and seeking these people out yeah and like the morality behind that and then the morality behind like the pedophile but yeah it's really just like oh he's just in it because he wants to be famous and get views yeah and then but it's also like they're pedophiles so yeah right yeah i i mean definitely like a strange movie uh that yeah i was like i left feeling like confused kind of um i'll give it a b like i didn't love it uh i thought the acting was great is this nomination worthy for robert pattinson i think it's definitely like i wouldn't be surprised if he got nominated it's just funny because it's like i guess he wouldn't get nominated i guess he would get nominated for yeah and this would be that's why it's because people were saying that there's a chance he could get both categories for yeah leading and supporting yeah um but yeah strange movie strange movie yeah yeah gives that vibe and yeah so i'll give that a b and then i watched the ministry of ungentleman ungentlemanly warfare uh which is a guy richie movie that came out a few years ago uh it's with uh isaac gonzalez henry cavill hero finds tiffin like the whole like good cast guy richie the guy the guy richie crew yeah uh and uh it was it was fine like which is what i expected uh it wasn't like like i love the man from uncle that movie that's a great movie and i love guy richie the gentleman all of it um this one is like fine it's just classic guy richie and but i was kind of bored throughout a little bit so i'll give it a b minus if it wasn't guy richie it'd be like a c plus and then i watched nirvana the band the show the movie which got like rave reviews it's matt johnson who directed tony and um and all this and it's about nirvana no no no no so nirvana the band the show is a show that matt johnson he's in it like like has multiple seasons i never heard of it and i never saw nirvana the band the show yeah so this is nirvana yeah so this is nirvana the band the show the movie um i'll put it up here for you but yeah yeah it's a it's a so like it's it's it's a very like nirvana the band the show the movie so here's the thing i i didn't watch the show and i think that is right i probably should have that would make sense i didn't love it but i also feel like probably the whole movie was like inside jokes from the show where like it would be a lot better if i knew what was going on and i would be like um right well you would you would assume that is like a continuation of the show it definitely is uh so i'll give it a c plus i just didn't like get it i would say yeah right um which is just user error it was interesting though in the show they like or in this movie they like accidentally create a time machine and they go back to 2008 and that was just cool i don't know exactly how they did it but like if they like are in 2008 and then they're like talking to their younger selves just them being in 2008 was funny because it's like everyone's dressed different and like like the billboards yeah did they go back in time in the show not that i know of uh not that i know of um but yeah just yeah i don't know interesting uh so that's all i watched though okay all right huh don't know if anyone will be going to watch or listen if you watch the show then you're probably like you have no idea what you're talking about right right right nirvana the show the movie 95 rotten tomatoes that's what i'm saying it was like i mean matt johnson's amazing yeah yeah yeah that's 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Tell us a little bit about your role. Yeah. Okay. Well, it actually takes place in New Orleans and I play the head of school. It's a school for witches and warlocks, a magical school. And it's really kind of based really about sisterhood. And I would say kind of like found family or, and the lead character is someone who actually comes from Brooklyn, somewhat of a troubled past, might have had some issues. And she thinks she's actually going to a school for troubled kids. And what she ends up finding out is, is that maybe some of the things that she thought was something that maybe people didn't love about her, her weaknesses actually end up being her strengths in her magic school. So love it. Perfect time of year for this. We were just talking about sweaters and soups. We'll put on our sweaters. We'll eat our soup and watch a show about witches and like going to school. It's so fun. Yeah. It's just a warm hug. Those, those types of shows, especially like you said, the character, you know, there is meaning behind it, their story behind it. But then to find out like, you know, she has these hidden talents, this hidden meaning. I mean, I think all of us women really do. Let's be honest. Yes. Of course. Which is a great message in itself, even though we all have a little witch in us. Yeah, I agree. I agree. And just, I think that the real like sort of, sort of that, you know, supporting one another and really becoming like sisters is really the better way to go and how much stronger we can be if we're, if we're grouped together. Right. If we fight for each other. Is that one of the, I'm sure many reasons that drew you to this project. How did you hear about it first? No, very female for it. I do enjoy working with a younger cast. It's kind of that, like the last couple of shows I've done, I've been sort of, you know, drawn to the younger generation and sort of being on the other side of it. And, you know, people ask me all the time, what do you like? And I said, well, it's funny. I love. I love mentoring the younger generation, but at the same time, I feel like I'm getting a lot from them as well, you know, especially because I have a teenage daughter and I'm always asking them like, what should I be, what should I be watching out for? What do I need to be doing with my 16 year old? You know? And you mentioned being on the other side of it because you grew up on television. You were the younger cast. Surrounded by older adults at times. Very much. So did that teach you anything of how you act on set with these kids? Yeah. I mean, I think I, you know, I've been doing this for over 40, 45 years, like really, really long time. Business is definitely very different and has changed. But I think a lot of who I am and, and sort of my work ethic comes from the way that I started many years ago and being on set and having to work around adults and a lot of adults at that, you know, I was around and surrounded with adults all the time. Even though I was on a show that had kids, but you know, the people that we were working with were all adults. So I definitely think it has a little bit of an impact on me as a kid, but I think it has a little bit of an effect on me as a person as well. Do you think that the younger cast that you work with respect and acknowledge how big of an icon you are? Yes. They, I mean, they absolutely have much respect for sure. They really do. Do they really understand? Like, I mean, they weren't around. I mean, how do they really understand? Right. And my kids don't even understand. But they have mutual respect as much as I have the respect for them as well. So as they should. Do you think that they've watched any of that early stuff or do they, they tell you they watched it and maybe they have or haven't? I honestly don't. No, I think some of them had watched Alexa and Katie. Okay. And that was my more recent and more of their age. I would say my daughter, the same thing. Um, but you know, my, my daughter has tried watching some of my older stuff. She did watch Saved by the Bell. She kind of got a chuckle at it and she was just kind of binging it during COVID. Um, she's like, you know, that show would never last right now. Like, and I was like, you're right. The truth is totally you're accurate. You think so? Oh my God, it was one of my favorite shows ever. I used to watch it. Nowadays, like things are so fast and you know, like the storyline has to move. Hence like why Coven Academy, they're like 15, 20 minute episodes now. Like they move really, really fast. She tried watching 90210 and she got through maybe a little bit of the first episode, the pilot and was like, I don't think I can do this. It's too slow. Oh, that's so crazy to me. It's crazy. Right. And I was like, you know, your, your mom is like in season five, right? And she's like, not going to happen, mom. Oh my gosh. Yeah. That is so crazy to me because I feel like, although we love the fast paced shows, right? You say 15, 20 minute episodes. We love that for binging purposes, throw it on. You just want to know what happens next so fast. But I love the nostalgic for some of us, but also just like, you know, the you're even you're drawn in, even if it's a bit slower, like the craziest thing doesn't have to be happening. She was not drawn in. So I don't know. I'm not sure. The craziest thing doesn't have to be happening in an episode. Frustration to enjoy it. She did love white collar though. White collar was the show that she actually binged and absolutely love. So that was another older one, but not that old. Yeah. It's just hard, hard to keep the attention span these days. That's what they're saying. You mentioned the nostalgia factor. That's big. Um, and it was, it's big for so many reasons, but so much gets rebooted, remade. There's new, they take that, the original cast and now make them the parents and the kids and the whole thing. Has that been like, have those projects been approached to you? Have you talked about them? We did a Saved by the Bell reboot. We did that for two seasons. Um, and there was definite, uh, very deep talks with white collar for a long time, which I honestly just talked about again in another interview, but, um, but it never, never went anywhere past writing the pilot. Um, but, uh, we know nine and two and I obviously took on a lot of different, I think it did try to, and it's done other things. Um, I was never a part of any of those, but, um, you know, I mean, it's just, I think the reboot thing, was really happening in big for a while and it's kind of starting to die down a little bit, but yeah, I feel like you on social media play into the nostalgia, right? I saw the video that you made and you're like, when people say I look the same from now to, you know, I mean, you absolutely, I mean, that was just a trend. Right. But you also just like, absolutely do. You've always been so gorgeous and we are obsessed, but do you ever get tired of talking about that time of your life? Because I'm sure you go into an interview and immediately people want to know about Kelly Kapowski. Yeah. And are you like, all right, well, I'm no longer Kelly Kapowski. I am me. I'm Tiffany Beeson. Yeah. I don't, I think there was probably moments in my career, probably more early on that I definitely was much more like not as open to talking about it, but, um, I'm not ashamed of it. I mean, you know what I mean? Like it's a huge part of my world and my work and my career. And so I don't have a problem talking about it. And I think now that I am getting older, like this is, this is what I have now. And it's like the stories and, you know, all of those things to kind of like really look back on and, and be very fond and, and, and feel very fortunate. So, yeah. And we feel fortunate to hear those stories. I think that's part of it, right? Like it's not wanting to harp on all your past projects because we're so excited about the new ones as well. But I feel like our generation, we love hearing those stories about what it was like filming those shows at that time, because it's such a different age now. Like social media has really changed the entire landscape because you're now seeing all that. So, so deeply. And so, you know, and we didn't have any of that, you know, so it's, it is so fascinating. I think our generation is so fascinated with it because we are so surrounded by social media that there is like almost this dream of what, gosh, what was it like when it was simple? We didn't have to have it. Rhea just spoke to, um, to Rob Lowe and he was kind of like, you know, I was literally just talking. People were asking me who my crush was when I was younger. He was sitting right here yesterday. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You could touch it. Oh my God. I'm cracking up because this was, no, no, but this was also my mom. I wasn't, I had to miss it. I was at a funeral, but, and he looks good. He looks great. I mean, come on. He looks great. He looks so good. He looks great. I didn't tell my mom that I was missing it because I knew she was going to be mad. Like I knew she was going to be mad. If I was your mother, I'd be really, really mad. And I said it and I said it. And then the whole time I'm like with all my family, she's like, show, give me that, show me that picture. She's going around to her friends being like, she missed, she missed Rob Lowe. Let me tell you, God, he is so fucking cool. And he's so handsome and charming. He's so charming. He really is. So charming. And kind of the conversations that I was having with him is what I feel similarly about you is having that longevity in your career, right? Like how do you keep up with that? I'm sure so many people come to you with different roles and you kind of have to keep like a great head on your shoulders. Yeah. I mean, yes, it's, it's definitely hard. And our, also our entertainment industry has changed a lot. We're also not getting as much. It's actually very hard. I have a lot of friends who are like out of work. Yeah. So I feel extremely fortunate and very blessed to be working and still doing what I love to do. And I've been able to do it for as long as I, as I have. So, um, I, I can't give you any advice on that. I mean, a lot of it is just luck and being at the right place at the right time sometimes. And just, you know, again, being very, very fortunate. So kind of what I was referring to is like, he was also sort of saying, you know, being famous now doesn't actually sound like it's could be that great. Like the pressure on these young kids that become, you know, become famous at such a young age because the cameras are always on them. There's no way to shut it off where I feel like in our time, you know, like with Rob, like you, you didn't have that. You could close your door in your apartment or your home and you had your privacy nowadays. Like they're in on everything, everything. And they want to know everything. They want to know everything. What was it like for you at that time, right? Like Saved by the Bell is so popular. People want to know what's going on, offset, onset. Yeah. What was that time like? I mean, it was a whirlwind for sure. I mean, when we started doing mall tours and going overseas and it was playing in like 146 countries or something crazy like that. It was, I mean, it's kind of mind boggling to think like how I probably really was on the inside. I mean, it's like it's a lot to be sitting there in a mall with like seven, eight thousand kids all wanting to like get your autograph and get a picture. And I was 15. I mean, I was like younger than my daughter at this point. So it was it was crazy. And people being obsessed with you in a way that could be borderline scary at times. Oh, yeah. You got the crush on you, the posters on the wall, people going nuts. Yeah. What is that like for you now when someone comes up to you and says, oh, my God, you were my biggest crush? Well, I think because they're older and they're not as creepy. Maybe they are. Yeah, yeah. Maybe they are. But it's more like, again, it's more nostalgic for people because I was in their living room when they were growing up. Like and I think it's something that Aaron Spelling told us a long time ago when we were doing 90210 is that TV stars have a very different sort of fame than movie stars. Because in movies with movie stars, you feel almost untouchable because you're in a theater, you're on the big screen where TV stars are in your home. And they feel like a part of your family. So and I think he's very right in that where I think TV stars felt a little more grounded for people and more relatable. When you're a teenager starting a show like that, do you now look back and think, like, was this the career path that you saw for yourself? You kind of like thrust into it at a certain point where you like, wow, you know, did I even really want to be an actor? Was it? You're right. I honestly don't know. I mean, I enjoyed it. I never I think it was one of those things that just the opportunity fell. I took it. I loved it. And I've kept going. So do I think that I woke up when I was eight years old and was like, I want to be an actor? You know, like, no, I don't think so. I actually thought I was going to be a dancer. So and I, you know, I was coordinated, but not that coordinated. But no, I just I just again, luck. Yeah. Got the opportunity. Absolutely loved it and has been able to continue doing it and find the joy as I've been able to continue doing it. So do you remember what those early days of auditioning? We're like, oh, yeah, compared to now where I'm sure people just come to you with a script and say, hey, it is so, so, so different. I want to say from what I remember, I mean, in my mind, it looked like hundreds of girls, but I think there was like over 400 girls had auditioned for Kelly. Wow. And it was my very first, like, real TV show job. And I was I was terrible. I was terrible. I was so bad. But yeah, that's kind of. That's kind of how the audition process was. It was a long process. You had multiple auditions, chemistry reads. And I had that all the way up until even White Collar. I had to do a chemistry read, even though I had a lot of success below me. But they still wanted a chemistry read with me and Tim and Tim Decay. So, you know, it just depends on the project. Like Alexa and Katie was an offer, which was lovely. And I enjoyed doing that show so much. And so every every opportunity has been very, very different. But the audition process now, you don't even. You don't even go in. You put yourself on tape or you zoom. Right. Right. With a director. Right. That's all you get. And I sadly miss it. I hate it. Yeah. Most people my age can't stand how it's changed because I don't think it's the same. And going into a room and actually look just like you. Totally. Right. Like, it's how much harder is it to zoom? We really don't like it. There was a time, of course, when we had to do it when nobody could leave. But it's not. It's not the same. But you don't get the same energy. You really don't. When people come to us and they say. Hey, we. They're actually only available virtual. We were always like. We love. We would love to have them on. Yeah. But please keep us in mind for when. Yeah. They're in New York. Yeah. To impress a person. Yeah. Just because it's such a different feel. Yeah. Right. Walking into the room and greeting somebody. You can get a sense of who they are. Way more than just like watching a tape. Yeah. Running it back. I also. You get the aura. You're forced to watch somebody too. Yeah. Right. Yeah. It's so easy to go. Fast forward. Fast forward. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. You have the opportunity to prove themselves. Right. Which is really sad. In the room it's undivided attention. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. They have to be. They're forced to. Yeah. Forced to. Were you in California in those early days auditioning? Yeah. I grew up in LA. Just outside of LA. Yeah. And then how did you get into it? Like an agent? Manager? Yeah. My uncle was a photographer and was very close. Had a college friend who was a big agent in a modeling agency. And that's how I broke it. Yeah. Like literally by connections. I mean. Yep. That's how I feel like a lot of people break it. They're all through and through. Went to school with Snoop Dogg. Yep. Yeah. And did you? I did. Oh my God. Was it awesome? Were you guys friends? What was it like? We were not friends. You didn't run in the same circles? No. Didn't run in the same circles. I mean. I mean. It was Long Beach. Yeah. Yeah. But he's a couple years older than me. But yeah. We went to the same junior high. And have you ever had any desire to be anywhere else? Or do you like being in California? I mean. I've always had. I love to travel. Yeah. So I've lived in New York when I was shooting White Collar. Yeah. And I did the show in Vancouver. Um. For Coven Academy. So. Um. But you know. Our. My home is Los Angeles for sure. Yeah. Um. My kids are. You know. In school. And my family's there. So. Vancouver really seems to be the place. I know. Like everybody shoots in Vancouver. It's an incredible. It's an incredible city. Yeah. It really is. That is. We gotta get there. That's on our. It's never been. It's. It really is on our list. It's a. It's a great city. advice? What is your daughter telling you? I always know when a show has hit when my kids friends come up to me and go, I watch and I love, and that's when I know. Yeah. Yeah. Um, and so I knew when Alexa and Katie was a huge success because I always had Harper's friends come up to me. I love that show. I love that show. Um, and I still even have it with my son because it's always in reruns on Netflix, but, um, but that's when I know when a show is really hit. So I'm hoping to hear the same thing. I, yes, I feel like I will. And you got a good mix of, you know, there's some young people that maybe not everyone has seen, but then there's, um, oh, what's, um, oh, Malachi. Oh yeah. My daughter knew all about it. Who is like the it thing. Now I, you know, she thought he was an influencer, not even an actor. So what's so funny to me, right? Like I see him on Tik TOK or something, but that's, what's so funny because she's a little bit older, right? She never watched zombies or any of those movies that he was doing before. Um, she only knew him from Instagram. Yeah. Yeah. And it's amazing. Yep. Yeah. And so she literally was like, mom, you're working with that cool influencer Malachi. I go, honey, he's an actor. It's so funny. And then our generation, I'm like, I only watched, cause I got watched camp rock too, because of camp rock too, camp rock three. Do you feel like pressure now to be on social media, be on Tik TOK, do all these things? Because like we said, you know, you have an actor. Yeah, no, I have fun with it. I definitely feel pressure. I think there was a bit of a feeling like you have to do it. Um, for many reasons, like I could go through it. It would take forever, but, but, uh, but it's funny. I, you know, I got on Tik TOK a little bit later and it didn't feel like me and it was weird and I was trying and then I was just like, Oh, I'll just post the same stuff that I do on Instagram and all that. And it just didn't feel right. So I've been kind of off of it. I may go back once I like wrap my head around it, but I don't know if Tik TOK's really like, I'll watch it for food versions for my personal self, but I just don't know if it's like for me. Yeah. Yeah. Scrolling. Yes. Posting. Yeah. But I scroll on Instagram, so, and I feel like the aesthetic and sort of, I think it's more my age Instagram. I don't know. I feel like it. Yeah. But I don't know. I might get back there. I don't know. That is super fair. I feel like you can post the exact same video and, but you get completely different responses. Like you, the comments on Instagram could be so different from the same exact video. And I was doing that, but then people were like, you really should, you know, make it a little different. And I was like, Oh, if I can wrap my head around, I'm the same way. I never post on Tik TOK. And then I'm like, the only time I ever do is when I'm like something that already went on Instagram, I'll toss it on Tik TOK. Yeah, we're not Tik TOKers. We're the same way. We're like, we can't wrap our head around it. It's too much. It's so, it's so much. I love seeing all the content that you do with your husband, which is so fun. You guys have been married for over 21 years, which is an incredible feat in your world. Hell yeah it is. To be in the same house, same house with the same man for 21 years. Yes. I need a medal. And you know, and nowadays it seems like that's just across the board. It's such a success, but then like narrow it down to Hollywood. I know even more so, right? How many times do people say to you, I can't believe you've been married 21 years. I mean a lot for sure. But, um, but we have really, you know, like my parents had been, you know, were married. I lost my dad a couple of years ago, but they were married over 50 years. And then my in-laws are still married at over 50 years. So we have really good examples that were set for us. And I think, you know, our idea of marriage is pretty much the same. And, um, so we've been able to really make it work, but it's work. Like, I think a lot of people sometimes get into relationship thinking that, Oh, love is love. And it just kind of like works itself out. No, it doesn't. Yeah, no, it's hard. All relationships are hard. Friendships are hard. Your relationships with your kids are hard relationships with your aging parents are hard. Like it takes a lot of work. It does. And everybody's changing all the time as you would hope you do. Right. You don't want to be the same person forever. Oh no. And I'm really changing right now. If you know what I mean. really changing right now so yeah yeah what is your favorite thing about your husband would you say oh the way he makes me laugh oh i love that it's always you gotta marry he's a big goofball and he's just a super fun guy and he's just a sweet guy he really has a kind heart so yeah i love that that is so important and i feel like we've felt we talk about that we're like why would i marry somebody that is not funny yeah you know i know especially nowadays like you have to have and you imagine that's like a misery you'd be in the house of 21 years with a guy who's is there anything that you guys are watching at home right now that that you're loving or something that's you know been yeah i mean probably some of the stuff that i know a lot of people we had just finished um watching um i'll see menopause brain i'm telling you um what's the um if you can the one that won all the emmys oh widows bay widows bay thank you widows bay was fantastic it's part of our job to know the show so yeah thank you uh fantastic show yeah so up our alley we watch a lot of documentaries so we're real into the documentaries but i did start watching something on the plane here what is it something bad's gonna happen oh so good moly so good with camila moroni yeah so good like really good what episode are you on five so don't spoil it okay don't worry i won't spoil it but it is i'm on episode five i'm gonna get to a couple when i get when i get home or at the hotel and i probably finish it tomorrow on the flight um and then i got my husband to start it too so i think we might finish it together which would be really super yeah that's good because it's a little like spooky so watching it oh yeah it's good but it's one of those shows where you're like what the hell is going on well that's why that's where i am right now i'm trying to figure out who's the crazy person like and i i'm kind of feeling like i'm going in a direction so i'm like i'm curious how it's gonna end i felt that way the entire time you're gonna love the ending okay great okay good good i'm excited yeah when when you're when you're traveling do you have shows that like you and your husband watch together that you're like he's like you can't watch that yes i mean most of the time but it's hard because like when i'm shooting in vancouver i can't wait like not that i don't go home every couple of weeks but it's a couple of weeks oh no i'm such a binger like i can really sit on the couch and binge and my husband can't and when there's something that i'm like i need to finish this he's like well we'll finish it like tomorrow night i'm like no what are you talking about yeah like there's a lot of stuff that we watch together and i'm like i'm gonna finish it that we don't care like he watches things that i don't really care about he's really into the ufos and the aliens right now and so i'm like curious about it i mean no i'm not curious but i know they're out there but i don't need to watch documentaries about it he'll tell me about it and then like i'll watch you know like the love story which was super big for me nostalgic for me in my own right so like he had no interest in watching that so like those are the good ones that i watch when we're separated it's always surprising though what will catch them like he there's they have the judgment first like they see it and then they're like i know i'm not gonna like that yeah like i had my husband watched the first episode of sterling point and then he was like don't watch this without me oh he did i watched that with my daughter you never know i watched that with my daughter i love that are you good are you a fan of reality tv at all or no reality tv not really not really i mean my daughter she loves her love island yeah oh yeah that makes sense and you're like i can't believe this shows on every night pass by and see and i'm like oh god oh you're like why are they kissing each other everybody watches it which is so crazy to me because i guess when it came on we were already of course older like we found it later and then when we started to realize that like the the younger kids are watching it too i was like the teenagers are too high schoolers are watching it and they're binging it like crazy and they love it love it i know i don't understand it so crazy though when you think about high schoolers right when we think about it like they're they're so young how are they watching those things but when we were in high school on that age yeah we were doing those things and watching those things but now i i i shudder i think about my 15 year old self i'm like i can't believe i did that i wouldn't even do that now watch that yeah it's true but you're dying it's like this or the sleepovers when everyone goes to bed and you're like i'm putting this show on yeah oh yeah it's so funny same thing but it's so funny yeah i mean we're locked into reality tv but it is when we watch the the love island and know that it's so the age range is so crazy what are some of the other ones you watch dancing with the stars is really making a big comeback right now it is yeah and we love love is blind yeah the netflix ones we love yes you know you a lot really okay i'll give you one that i do watch and i watch it with my kids love on the spectrum okay everybody loves love on the spectrum i feel like whenever we ask i just thought of it i was like you know what there is one that we do watch and it's amazing and my kids love it and my husband and we watch it as a family right and that's great and it's wholesome so you know what i mean like there's so good there's good behind yeah and when you can when you know you can watch it with the whole family you're like this is good then it's not you're not hiding it from anybody yeah exactly everyone's gonna like it listen we are so excited for coven academy like i said this is just really up our alley is there anything else you can tease about this season what we can expect from i can't tell you it's going to be a very big cliffhanger at the very end of the season so and it's one that involves me so it's going to be a really big one that's how they get but it's there's a lot of like lots of secrets getting revealed throughout the whole entire season but it is a show that i think you know it'll speak very big to the tweens and teens but it's also gonna you know i think hence why like i'm out trying to promote it i think it's a multi-generational show as well yeah kind of like sterling point the parents are watching it as well with the kids so yeah i mean i'm i still am tuning into all the anything that has to do with like the witches the magic the magic school sign me up and it's the perfect time for it halloween is around the corner halloween oh the fall we love it yeah we're so excited so october 1st you can watch it on free form next day on all streaming and hulu and disney channel yeah i mean disney channel disney plus thank you very much 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