Irene The Alien's Ephemeral Visit to the Terrestrial Realm with Katya

Welcome to another episode of The Ballad in The Beautiful. There is no baldness today, but there's two times the beauty. Oh. Oh, yeah. We have. well, Trixie's in Turkey getting her hair plugs and her tummy tucks. Oh, just airing her out. Wow. Her tummy tucks? Yeah, she's getting. she's getting the old-fashioned lipo and gets all inclusive. Yeah. You could go to, um, it's like $3,500, they fly you up, pick up at the airport. $3,500 for lipo and the plugs. And then you stay at like a three star resort hotel for like 200 USD for lipo and. well, it's in Turkey. So the exchange rate is very favorable these days. It could be $4,000. I'm not sure. Do you want to know what I paid for lipo? No. Okay. No. No, no, no. You've let me talk. Sorry. My God. This is my podcast now. I'm trying to introduce you. This is the way getting her jaw rewired. We have a special guest, a drag race alumna, who you know and love. It's Irene, the alien Nadu Boa. Welcome to the park. Thank you. Thank you for having me. It's my pleasure to be here. You look fantastic and I just want to say that I'm very sorry that I was 35 minutes late. Hey, you know what? Honestly, I was expecting longer, so this is a pleasant surprise. I do have an excuse though. I now have. I forgot to do my hair. I can't run out of the house with wet hair. This style looked like it took forever. Yeah. Yeah. It's just the drying. I don't know how to use the hairdryer. You don't have the diffuser yet? I don't even know what that is. It's a whole new world. What is a diffuser? It's like an attachment for your hairdryer and it makes the hairdryer, it's softer air so that you can like get the scrunch little tick, tick talk hairstyle. Soft hair. Soft hair. Soft hair. Soft air. Like hard water. Soft air. Exactly. God, the water in LA is hard as nails. I do not envy you. I feel slimy. Okay. Let's talk about the water in LA, super relatable subject everybody listening. How does that manifest? You said in sliminess? Yeah. So when I shower in Seattle after my shower, I feel clean. But when I'm in LA, which happens way too fucking often, I still feel like I have residue on my body. Just scum on you. Yeah. Now, so is that the reason that I'm having such a hard time squeegeeing my black tile in the shower? 110%. Okay. Actually, I would know. I've never cleaned a shower in my life. Okay. Well, like so, say spots. Yeah, mold. Not mold. Grime. We don't talk about mold here. Like a residue. Yeah. Is that from hard water? I think it's hard water. Okay. Yeah. You never squeegee it. You never done anything like that in your life. I am a very resourceful person, but one thing I cannot do very well is clean, so I outsource that. Okay. Well, you're an alien. So I would imagine. I don't understand earth chemical. God, honestly, the brand is so strong. Do you tire of it? At this point, I'm like, I have painted myself into a corner because I go to the gig and I'm like, I'm doing my lies. I'm an alien number tonight. And they were like, they're all dressed up like E.T. Yes. No, they show with space buns. I'm like, I'm sorry, kids. I'm not doing that shit. I'm going heads in the audience. Yeah. I love that. That's good. I relate a little bit because I kind of like for a good long time, I just like gave up on the Russian thing totally, and I was like, people just show up with the hammer and say, I'm like, I don't good for you. I'm doing, I'm doing ketchup. I'm not a communist. I'm so sorry to tell you. Totally. So let's talk about you. Let's do it. I love my favorite. This is an outfit that I did not bring today. I borrowed this from the neighboring studio where Bob the drag queen has. Get out of here. Oh, beautiful studio by the way. Beautiful studio. Gorgeous, gorgeous studio. Very enviable. That studio. This had the tag on it. So she was more than willing to let me wear it. That was from a store. This is a $50 dress from a store. Get out of here. And I did have this wig. The wig is mine. But yeah, it's lined. Line. I got a champagne sequin. I would call that champagne. Yeah. Totally. And I have a silver shoe, which is close enough. We're mixing the talix in 2025. Yeah, but I did change my gold earrings to a silver earring so that I feel like that. I think was the right choice because the accessories got a match. 100%. But I had this outfit that I was cinched for. And as I was waiting for you to arrive, the cinch became more and more difficult to deal with. And I was well, so I had to be cinched because the dress that I was going to wear is actually one of Violet Trotsky's old dresses. Why would you ever be? Well, I bought it off a girl who bought it off a girl who bought it off of Violet. And by the time it made it to me, it was only $200. So I was more than happy and it looked like it's painted on my body, bitch. Well, yeah, but what did that doesn't say anything? It's like pink and gold and black and it's like a little like cut here and then like cut right above the plus. Okay. And then I have big shoulders like Violet. So I had to hide it with a jacket, but I'm a huge like big old man. Just like Violet. She does have very broad shoulders. Right. She's, you know, she's not petite. Get you a man who can do both. You know what I mean? Yeah. But Bob sent her a picture of it and she said, how is whoever that is able to fit into that dress? You know, I, this is sitting gig. Yeah. That's what I realized. I was sitting and I was waiting for you and I was like, I'm going to be mad if I have to wear this. We're not showing off our waist on this show. Plus people are in the car. Right. No, no one's watching this. Anyway. So I was like, what's her name from Dynasty? Crystal, of course, not Crystal Connors. If I look like Joan Collins on the ball, it's Joan Collins or Joan, it's Joan Collins and her son, Jackie Collins. Jackie Collins. That's right. That's right. I was going to, I love, I wish, you know, you could, I could do a fabulous, um, Crystal. Uh, uh, uh, no, no, no, the, um, Linda Evans. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then here. Yeah. Honestly, I'm shocked. You haven't. I know. Well, you know, it's, it's not easy finding that hair. There are people who make hair. I know, but it's got to be, that is a very particular Bob. Yeah. Very blown out. Very blown out. It's a, it's a big, that page boy, the goofiest band, the Sabrina Carpenter band. Huge goofy band. Big. It's, I mean, it is a very voluminous and it's that ash blonde. That's almost gray that you can never find. This one needs a little bit of time. Well, this is 613. Yeah. I have purple shampooed it. I, I did. I did. I purple shampooed it because it was a little bit more yellow. It's giving twink and crisis, Brassie. So, oh, you think it's that Brassie, really? You look like you, like your boyfriend broke up with you and you're like, I know it'll show him. It's a 40 year old, I'm going to dye my hair blonde, gay moment. Sure. Yeah. Which I'm still with. Yeah. Yeah. I can hang. I have a friend. It's, it is funny. I have a good friend of mine just dyed his hair blonde from jet black and he's 41 and I'm wondering what's going on with his life. Nothing good. Nothing good. So, I was asking you earlier before we were rolling, if they still said hard ice on drag race, and you said, no, they don't on the All Stars without giving too much like how the sausage is made away, like what is the difference between regular season and All Stars in your experience? I just think that they are a little bit more aware of the fact that we are working professional drag queens on All Stars. Okay. And so, we're treated as girls, it, I mean, obviously my experience of being on a regular season of drag race was very, very short because I went home first, but we were treated sort of like cattle on regular drag race and on All Stars, they were sort of more like, thank you for being here. Yeah. But they've changed the way that they store us, you know? Have you heard this? Store. Our cryogenic freezers are different now. Store. Yeah. Your own racks have refrigerated our matrix tubes that we're kept in when we're not on camera. When they're feeding the tube down our throat, they, well, they have to shut us down so the story doesn't develop when we're, how did they store? There's a trailer park. They have a trailer park with like 15 trailers and there's a common area where we can all hang out when we're like chilling. You can hang out. We can hang out off camera. Interesting. And there's a trailer park where across the street from the studio. Where's the studio? I'm not going to say it on camera. So they, so they store you in a much more humane as the word, humane, hospitable situation. And so going home first, tell me, nasty, wouldn't recommend it. Right. Of course not. I want to tell me what exactly like give me the whole full psychological profile of you of that experience. It's sort of like everything positive you think about yourself just gets flushed down the toilet. Yeah. And it was crazy in the moment. I wasn't really super broken up about it because I was like, I have like a full, I've been a full-time drag queen in Seattle for a really long time. Yeah. I've got a great career to go back to. Sure. I have a lovely boyfriend who, you know, everything is going super well with that. I have like amazing friends. And then I got home, got eliminated first. My boyfriend moved to Spain and broke up with me and all of my friends turned on me because I was so unhappy with, it was crazy. So I was like, oh, everything's going wrong. So my life kind of fell apart. And you know, I was weird because, because Trixi and I have been rewatching seasons seven. I've been watching. It's, it's, I, in my experience, there's really no way to, on the first season, like, like you're saying, you get the experiences more humanized and you're familiar with it on all star season, but in the first season, I felt that it was very do or die. It was very serious, like very, very deadly serious. And I mean, even at, even at the point of like the second, say the, the end of the first episode, when you're dancing at the end of the lip sync, you've been there for a little bit. Yeah. Like, you've been there for several days. The first episode took a week to film. There you go. So like, that's insane. A week on Drag Race with no phone, no contact in a barn or in a cryo chamber or whatever, you feel like it's your eye or I felt like it was like. the most important thing in the world. And it was very, very like I, 'cause I thought that like, and I think that going home second is harder than first, that's just my opinion. - Yep. A lot of people share that opinion. - Because I think because of the, just because of the memorability factor, like at least it's like, well, I was shot for like, so you have that impression, like you make us, you make an impression. - There's a word for it, right? It's when you're shot. There's not a word for second out. - Exactly, exactly, exactly. - And also, it's like, it can be a fluke. Because there are many girls as I have proven. - There you go. - No, seriously, like because there's, there are some, it's kind of bad luck. Like you could be, you could have a huge skill set, have a huge personality, and then you just fuck up, or you just like, you know, you're driving on the street and you get a flat tire. - Yeah. - And it's not your fault and it's a bummer. And it doesn't necessarily like, I mean, I don't think getting eliminated from drag race is, you know, it's not like, doesn't mean anything about you, but like, it can certainly, like you can feel wounded as a drag queen, but yeah, I think it's, it can be like a fluke and then you could be an incredible queen. It's just a bummer that people didn't get to know you. - Yeah, I mean, I think for sure, when I was there and I was getting eliminated, I also was on the first season in years where the person eliminated first was actually eliminated first. So as it was happening-- - Wait, what does that mean? - Season 12, season 13, season 14. They would eliminate someone and then bring them right back. It was like a fake out. Or they would just like go through several episodes before eliminating someone. - Right. - So they eliminated me and I was like, - Oh, okay. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - You sure? - I'll get my back. - I'm going home. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And then they're like, "Well, I walked off the main stage "and the next two flights on Wednesday "and we need you to not pack right now "and do untalked right now." And it was like, wait, this is really happening. And for the next 24 hours, I was still there 'cause I did film "Confessionals and Shit" and I kept waiting for someone to come in and be like, "You're back!" - Yeah, like psych. - And it never fucking happened. - Off camera, did you cry? Are you a cryer? - I didn't cry until October. I was on the beach with some friends. We were on vacation at a cabin and we all took shrooms. And everybody else went inside and I stayed on the beach and okay, it might have been in November 'cause this was after my boyfriend had broken up with me. And on shrooms, the weight of everything that had happened hit me all at once and I cried so violently and viscerally that I got nauseous and I was like dry heaving on the beach. And I had to call my mom and be like, I just need you to sort of trip sit for me over the phone while I like, expel every emotion I've ever had. It was crazy. - I know, I totally, I know that that's sick, that that I know that very well. - It's the only time it's ever happened to me in my trip. I'm not a cryer, I'm not an emotional person like no. - It's, oh gosh, yeah, my friend said it was like, he just mentioned that it was, you can think about it like, if you think about it like you're actually like, expelling crap from your body, then it can be helpful but it's not, it's certainly not pleasant in the moment. - No, but it was, there was a cathartic element to it. I was kind of like happy to have accessed it because I had been holding onto it for so long. - Yeah. - That I was like, oh, afterwards I was like, oh my god, it's out. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - It's like being constipated after being, you know, after surgery when you're taking an oxy or whatever. - Yeah, and they get to digitally extract the feces from your butthole. - You know those, you know those videos where they're cleaning out a drain pipe and at first it's slow. - And then, and then. - Yeah, that was, damn. (upbeat music) - Did you watch the season? Where were you? - It was bad without me. - Thank you, thank you. - It was a bad season. - I didn't watch it because of that. - They needed, they, girl, you, what is the last season of Drag Race you watched? - No, just stop it, everyone. What are you talking about? - You're like, thank god. - I'm I, I'm basically in the Drag Race recap. - There are too many of them. There are too many. We don't need to add to that. No, I've watched, I watched a bunch. - Sure, why not? - Every one of them. - Uh-huh. - You, when you're on the pit stop. - I listen, you have to watch the, I get accused of that all the time. - They sit there and make you. - She didn't make watch episodes. What do you think I was doing? They literally, like, glue your eyeballs in the screen. - You watch it, you watch it seconds before you're on camera. - Yeah. - Because it's like, what? They're not gonna trust you to do a homework at home. - No. - Anyways, obviously it's not even out yet. You don't have access to it. - Yes. - You're the only ones that do. - Right. - Have you seen my episode that I got eliminated on? - I have not. - That's probably for the best. Your opinion of me will be much higher because of that. - No, I, listen, I, I'm a person who is, I'm a flake, I'm, I'm, I'm lazy about work. Not about other things. - Only the things that are making you money. - Well, yeah, if I have to do something, then I immediately don't want to do it. - Do you know why I got eliminated? - Because you were from a different planet and you didn't qualify. - Or were you Dubois then? - I was Dubois then. - Okay. - When did you take the, when did you sort of? - Right after. - Glassed off. - I was like, I need them to not. - When they Google, I read Dubois. It's gonna come up. - You put in your first hour and stuff. It's like, put in your first hour and stuff. - And listeners, please don't, don't be, you know what, keep your, you just keep your mouth shut, okay? - No, it's kind of, it's fun to like talk to somebody who doesn't know. - I don't want to be mad at me that I didn't do my homework. - No, I don't fucking give a shit. - And I don't want it to reflect on you because I think you're a lovely person. - Thank you. - I can't wait to get to know you. - This 10 minutes we've spent together, you're already in love. - Well, I mean, you're always so gracious that I was 35 minutes late, so that's a great start. - Could you imagine if I went on the most successful drag podcast ever and was a diva about you being late? - I would, yes, I think that would be incredible. - Yeah, I mean, it's my time on a soluble as well. - Could be in my place, like make my face go red. That would be amazing. - I'll just don me. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - We had a talent show. - Okay, so this stresses me out. - It's the worst challenge. - It's, it's, I listened to the snatch game. - Mary, we started the, yeah, we started at the time. - We started to, and I'm not, I'm not to cut you off, but I will, I will just say briefly, we got a call from the producers before, you know, 'cause they gave us what, three weeks. And about two weeks, they're like, "Hey, what do you think about a talent show?" - What do you think about? - Yeah, like, like, you're not mattered. - No, yeah, no, seriously, because they're like, we're thinking about like a talent show. What would you do for a talent show? And they really wanted to, it was a logistical thing, like they said, like, you can't lip sync to Janet Jackson because we can't get the rights to that song. They told Coco she could do it though. - No. - Oh gosh, my gosh. (laughs) - But see, that's like, so that was a, that was unfair to her. I believe because Coco Munch piece is an extremely talented, drag queen, she's not a carpenter, she's not like a-- - Don't judge a fish by how it climbs a tree. - Exactly, that, put down a fucking bumper sticker you bitch. It's my new merch, you can get it on my bestjudy.com. - Yeah, and so, like, exactly, however, like, you know, it is a strange thing to do what she did. I think it was performance, or I would have given her the top prize, but, yeah, that is a tough, to me, I get, oh, I get, like, I get full body chills. - You get the wheelies? - Yeah, I get full body chills, full body chills. What did you do and what happened? - Okay, so at the time that I got to do a talent show, you know, we're many seasons into the talent shows, and it's become very clear that what people are starting to do is lip sync to an original track. - Oh, talk about it. - They love it. You know who loves it even more? - RuPaul. - RuPaul loves it. - The only thing she loves more than a black cent, or someone losing a ton of weight, is-- - Love someone losing a ton of weight. - She just loves, when that fatty slings down, she gets hard, boned up. She is bricked for that former fatty. - There's a season from the first episode where she goes, well, you look great. (laughing) - Tempest, so you lost 6,000 pounds. That's incredible. Thank God you did, you nasty former fat fuck. - You know, it's just crazy. - No comment. - No, no, no, no, no, we're exaggerating, of course, 'cause we're not trying to get invited back. - I'm not trying to get invited back. - We're loving everything she does. So, yeah, so go ahead. - So, my idea was I'll really gag them and do something super subversive and the complete opposite of a lip sync. - Wait, I think I saw this. - The glass of water. - I love that. - It is your type of thing. - I love that shit. - It's your type of thing. - I love that shit. - Have you ever seen Pickle surprise? - Of course. - I thought that-- - It's a surprise. - I thought that the woman who was a part of Pickle surprise. - See, that's not that woman. - Have you seen her TikTok slightly? - Oh, but see, she wants to be an alternative queen again. - So bad. - Which one of you bitches is my mother? - When she wins that shirt, Mary, I have that. - I know. - The one, we're talking about RuPaul's Instagram and she, if you take a look at her Instagram or maybe her TikTok, her TikTok, I look at her Instagram. Her Instagram is filled with silly, silly, silly videos. My favorite is when she opens the door and then she's there with her purse on her head to the side and she's like, can I help you? Do you have a question? - And then just the, it's just, have you seen her pulling out the LaRue-Rue? - I have. I don't love that because I cannot stand. I don't even want to say the word. - Say it. - La Boob like you. - Yeah, fucking. - I think it says that shit again. - I think it's another sign. Another sign, just one of many signs of the end times they're already upon us. - Fucking La Boob. - Did you feel that we have a La Booboo? I'm gonna kill you. - Did you feel that we're running you over with my car? - I got tipped at La Booboo and I gave it away. - Thank God. - To a friend. - You don't touch that shit. You just kick it. - Did you not like a beanie baby? - No, I'm, what? - What? - What do you think, what the fuck do you think I was doing? I was 13, I was drinking blood in the dark. - Right. - It's so true. - Beanie baby. - Beanie baby. - Beanie baby. What do you do? - Cut a bullet in, fuck it. - It's not, it's full, wait. - I would like Jelly Beans. - No, it's still with like-- - Oh, I thought it was still good. - I thought it was still good. - Stand or something. - No, they're big in that. - They're big in that. - Yeah, they're not getting in that hole. - Okay, okay. Anyways, so not with the fucking toys. I've repulsed Instagram and be like, oh yeah, she's, RuPaul is on the main stage. There's many versions of RuPaul as well. - Sure, but she wants to be a freak again. She's sick of this. - No, but she is a freak. - But she can't be. - She's, right, she doesn't wanna wear the corsets in the gowns anymore. - No, she wants to be pickle surprise room. - But she, it just didn't, it didn't, it didn't, it was my fault. - It was a big swing. - It didn't work. - And it didn't work. 'Cause it was a shortened version of an act that I have done successfully. But the shortened version was not successful. - Well, see that's the other thing is that you've got 60 seconds or 90 seconds. - 60. - 60. I mean, the girls, you know, I have there, has there been a girl who's gone out there and done like a tight one? - You can't, that's not a thing. - You can't. - It's not a thing for a reason. - If I had been smarter, I would have realized that any attempt at comedy is just going to be unsuccessful unless it's in musical form. - This fucking fly. - No, my, my fly would be like grabbing the fly and eating it. - I tried to really try to grab a credit kit style. - Little lizard. - I wish like, you know what mine would be? - I would try to, I would have to, I would try to snatch my own eye out, eat it. It would have to be obviously. - But like magic trick. - Yes. - That's fun. - No one's done magic. - Or like, step on it with the toes. - I'm at the point now where I think I have, 'cause you know, once you reach a certain level of success in drag, you've like proven yourself, you have a lot more fun, you can have more fun and there's more room to play. So I, my most recent talent show, I took it seriously. If I ever went back and had to do another talent show, I would take the piss again. - You would, yeah. - 'Cause I think part of the problem was that they weren't familiar enough with me to understand that like I'm taking the piss fully. What did they think you were doing, just fucking dicking around up there? - They thought I was trying to make 'em belly laugh, but I was more trying to be like anti-humour. - Yeah, yeah. - They got it, but they didn't like it. - Gotcha. - Also, I don't think like a bet from Iowa with maybe like, would be like. - What's that? - Different cities liked it. So there are cities that liked it. San Fran, Brooklyn, Chicago, and London liked it. - Yeah, 'cause they're all like, they're all familiar with conceptual performance art. - Yeah. - Don't mind this. - Shouldn't it on conceptual performance art on drag race? - Well, what's your-- - Unless you're Jimbo. Who's the girl that gave her, so who jumped in the toaster bath? - Willow pill. - Willow pill. - Which a lot of people thought that I was trying to like, piggyback off of her, which water? - Just different, just being different, you know. When there's so many girls who are doing the same thing, just not doing that puts you in a category. - Question though. Where the fuck did they get all these props from? I know they didn't bring it from home. - They give you a $500 budget of stuff that you can order for the show. I mean, all starts to challenge show. They're building set pieces and equipment. - Look at Ferremont, you had a whole crystal corners. God has set up. - I think she paid for that. - Okay. - Did you see the challenge show with Bosco? - On my season of All Stars. - Did I? - She has, it touched me. - Yeah, this fly is coming to get us. People on the 405 that want to know what we're talking about. We got a fly in the studio and it's just really terrorizing. It's really kind of throwing a wrench in the chemistry that's, if you notice, we were a little bit-- - Yeah, I'll go up. - I'm gonna have a really hard time with this. - Yeah, we're really, it's really going down here. - They build her a full platform that spins so that she could get on a chair, get into the splits on the chair and be spinning around. - Yeah, I don't, I don't think that's fair. - Well, it's what she asked for. - Okay, well, I could ask for a spinning platform. - What if I asked for a pink Corvette that she was being to the moon? - Maybe they would have built you. - You know what I mean? - I don't know. - Have you seen "Dive on Teaser" show in Vegas? - I have seen, I've not in Vegas, but I've seen it here in LA. - When she drives the car onto the stage and the car is rhinestone. - I have seen that. - She is truly spectacular. What do you think about her? - Wish I could be her. - Yeah. - And she is human and it's not Cirque du Soleil, but like it's kind of, it's perfect. - It's perfect. - It's the best show I've ever seen. - Right, I mean, it's sensational. Like when, oh my God, this fucking phone. People on the 101, we gotta fly in the studio. - All these local LA references, I feel like we can't neglect to keep in mind that people are not always watching. - With the sky, I look amazing. - You look incredible. - You can't see me. - Yeah, she looks incredible. She's doing mixed metallics. She's doing stone fishnets. - I have nail polish A, B, she's got nails on. She doesn't even need body makeup 'cause her skin is so perfect. - Oh my God. - And guess how old I am? - 38, 28, 21, 22. (laughing) - How old are you really? - I'm 32. - 32. - You like being 32? - How do you feel? - What age do you feel? - I feel 25. - 25. - How old do you feel? - Body-wise, very much older than I actually am. And like emotionally way younger than I should feel. - I know why that is. Like I feel, well I don't even get into it. It sounds so gross. When I wake up, I waddle and I like groan and I croak and I creak and it's fucking rotten. - Is your asshole still in? - My asshole is, I have the asshole the third grade of mama. - Perfect. - Okay, she's like. - That's the thing. - That's the thing about aging that I'm scared of. - What, getting your fucking blown out cow puts you dragging on the floor like the diapers on? - Having a tail that looks like the alien's inner mouth. - Well, I have a lovely little suggestion for you. Don't get fucking double-fisted at fulsome every other fucking day. - I haven't, I haven't bottomed in years. - But then why do you feel like your pussy's gonna fall out? - It just happens, doesn't it? - No way, that doesn't just happen. - Old people's ass will just fall out. - They, you gotta screw it back in. If you're not getting your fuck, if you're not getting the ottoman from fucking CB2 shoved up there, you don't have to worry about it. - Well, I actually have some questions for you. (laughing) - Hold on. - Oh my God. - These drapes go with this rug up. No, I had, listen, I got friends who are anal explorers of the most Olympic-- - Polunkers. - Polunkers, I mean, they wrote the book on it and they got to worry about diapers before they turned 50. But that's another story for another time. - I'm happy that you're-- - I don't get it, I don't bottom really. - It's gross, get out of there. - It's like, I mean, it can be very gross. - It's just like you poop out of there, mama. - That's not what makes it gross. - Oh. - It's your inside me. I don't want you in there. - Oh wow. - That's my private business. - That sounds like a barrier to intimacy that's emotional. - Probably. (laughing) - No. - No, wait, wait, let's go back to-- - Let's talk about the trauma. - Let's go back to the trauma. - So, so, we talk about it anymore. - We talk about it anymore. - Spinning chairs, a whole prop setup. When I was on there, you just had to go out there and do something. Now, I know y'all were riding tricycles compared to what is required now. - No, mama, there were no tricycles. - It was crazy. - Y'all were like-- - They did not have any props. - Y'all were walka-walka. - They were no props. There was a microphone if you wanted it. - Yeah. - And that was it. There was nothing else. There was just that rudimentary. Just that fucking greased up steel stage. Hot! Do you, would you kick, would you kick, sorry, sorry. Would you agree with me when I say that that main stage is greased up solid steel slippery? - I think everyone who saw the finale of my All Star season will know that I definitely feel like it is greased the fuck up. - Can you get a Marley floor? Can we get a, where's Marley? - Can they sweep it in between episodes? - That wouldn't help. When you have greased up steel with steel brackets between each steel square. - I did a lip sync on episode two. And glass bugle beads got everywhere and got shattered and Bosco was bleeding profusely because she got naked. And when we came to rehearse the next day for the next episode, the glass bugle beads were still everywhere. - Love it. - I was like, "Oh." - That's the attention to detail that you really count on for World of Wonder. - Oh, yeah. - I, the way that I hate that fucking main stage is you cannot-- - It's beautiful. I guess. - Especially the new one with the video projection screens. - Well, that's not on the floor though. - No, but who's looking at the floor? - Everybody, 'cause they're looking at your feet while you're walking. - Sniffing your toes, girl. - No, I'm like, they're looking at you and the way that you are walking is directly informed by the service of the floor that you are walking on. - Look, it's a slippery floor. And let me tell you one thing about me, Katya, I'm gonna fall. I'm a falling bitch. And so I struggle every single time. Every time I step out on that stage, I almost fall. It's crazy. - What was the first, what was the first pass of the first time you were walking the main stage? What was it like? Do you remember it? - Hittiest. What would you remember thinking like-- Why didn't I get to rehearse this? - Thank you. - People, they're on the win 10 right now. We're both thinking the same thing. - Why didn't I get to rehearse this? - Why don't they give us, in my head, I was like, so I know that they're trying to like, I know that all of this withholding of information is of a perfect-- - It's a game. - It's the game. - Right. - The shock, the awe, the nerves. It's all trying to be manufactured, ratcheted up for the greatest degree of entertainment possible. However, it feels a little cruel. I still think it's cruel. I also think it kind of doesn't make that much sense. - I get it in the sense of-- - Do you want everybody to slip? - Well, that's it. - What the fuck is wrong with you? - I get it in the sense of we're making a TV show and we don't have time for anything, but what needs to be on camera? - Oh, give me a fucking break. They got plenty of time. - But I also would have loved to have even seen it before stepping out in my very first runway look in eight-inch platform heels. Especially when it's like, because having seen the show does nothing to prepare you for what the reality of the show actually is. - Well, of course. - Because that stage, I can't stress this enough. I'm like, it's basically the water country over there. - It's made out of banana peels. It is, they grease it down with like hair, with that olive oil hairspray. Every before, like between each contestant, do you think it's like a part of, it's like American Ninja Warrior where they're like, - No, that-- - You have to survive this test. that would be interesting. and I would be on board for that because then you're like ready, you know what I mean? You're like, you're like thighs are gripped and you're like, but instead you like, you try to be pussy and you're like, it's impossible. And then you're like, oh my god. And then you start panicking halfway down. And they're so close to you, the judges. Oh, you feel that way? Oh my god. I was like, there's my ass. I was like, where are they? Oh, I felt like they were. I felt as soon as it got on. Maybe it was like COVID, they changed it. They might have. They might have. They might have. I know the set on the set on the UK version was a little bit different. I. Were you on UK? I was there for a day doing something and I just got to peak at it and it was like a little bit different. But the one way back when I thought it was tiny compared to what I. Well, when I watched the old seasons and I look at the judges panel, they are this close to each other on that panel. Now they're all stretched apart. They're seated for and there's only four of them. They used to be like closer than we are now. Well, when I was yeah, I mean, I would they were like this this this this this is up in each other's pussies. Yeah, because they could do this. They would do like that or they hold the fan in front of the face. Yes. Oh, I forgot about that one. Yeah. But anyways, we were right there and then Tracy reminded me that you do two passes. Not always. Really? Oh yeah. All stars we mostly did one. Really? I wonder if that's true. And it would be without music. So most of our runways were without music. Okay, I'm not sure if you did this and I'm sorry if you did. But I would like to suggest all contestants in the future. Just walk the runway. Just walk it instead of skateboard. Let's not do Charlie Chaplin. Let's walk a walk on the run. Let's not do like, let's not do like arm animals or let's not do like. Did you do that? Were you like, were you like, oh, I was at you. I came out in an outfit dressed as an angel. Okay, did you do this? Well, my real arms were in the wings. Okay. And I had fake arms. So I was in fact flapping my wings. That's a little bit different. Is it? Okay. I'm talking like a person who's like dressed as like a fierce woman. Right. And they were just like doing bits up there. You don't like a bit. I hate them. Oh, you're very hate the bits. I'm very traditional. What do we have in common? Nothing. You're an old school queen. Yeah. If you're not wearing nails, you're not in uniform. No, I don't give you shit about nails. I just give you shit about where you're doing with the hands of that nails supposed to be on this. I mean, I can't get it. I just, you know what I would be? I would be the guest surge with a block. And if they pointed to where they're in what I'm shooting that finger off. Period. Yeah. Point again. Yeah. I would have a BB gun. I call my boyfriend BB gun Kelly. Because he's short and covered in tattoos. It's like a small machine gun Kelly. He's BB gun Kelly. Oh my God. So yeah. So you're like a, you're a mugger. You're like a bit doer. You're like, you're like a, no, I'm a big uncomfortable man. Okay. You don't ever want. I just missed the days of just being mispussy when they were in mall clothes. Not necessarily. I mean, I'm thinking about like my name is malls. Sure. I'm thinking about violet. So give me an example of someone you hate. Say their name. Um, it's, um, it's like, oh gosh, it's, uh, who does it? It's like, uh, every season. It's like, um, I feel like it's like, maybe that's just more that, that hokey pageant thing. I'm like, the, like, like, schnell, though, that's like a hokey pageant thing that's way before drag race. That's the whole like, that's modeling your gown. Yes. Exactly. That's like evening gown. Competition. You're scored exactly like you're doing this. You're doing that. I'm thinking, um, who does it? It's like, maybe thorogy, not really thorogy, but like, fuck, I wish I had a good example. I'm sorry. It's fine. Um, I just wanted you to talk to about someone on the pod. I know. I'm trying to think maybe Tina Burner. Maybe, uh, it's not Tina Burner. Who the fuck does it? Do you not know what I'm talking about? No one in this room, but me watches the show. It's like, I think like, you don't know what I'm talking about. I'm talking about this. Yes. I'm going to talk about, yeah, demonstrate it. Yeah. She's, oh, God, she looks a fucking mess, dude. Oh, you're talking about Utica. Yes. Yes. Yes. Thank you. God. All right. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Now let me be very clear. Weird. I am weird. Boop. Boop. Boop. I got it. Yeah. No, that's like, it's like, shut it. The fuck down. Like TikTok just started doing all those like the couples are doing there in the mirror. They're doing there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, now that being said, it would particular, it would hurt me so much about Utica was that she would be wearing the most incredible things. She lost out on challenge wins because of her runway presentation. Oh, my God. I mean, that first costume construction episode. Best thing ever produced on drag race period point blank. Well, now she's on project runway. I know. And as well as should be that level, I was like, damn. That was such a disproportionate. I don't know. I think, you know, there's, there's been looks like there's this, there's this one like jumpsuit with like the 60s ball. I think it's like a Hello Kitty jumpsuit with like a 60s blonde. Oh, my God. The one and then with the, with the pearls. I could I'm sleeping. I know the second. I mean, besides that one, which obviously is the best one, I can't believe I forgot about that. I'm just so humble. Um, can you imagine, can you imagine, can you, can you imagine? Not only was I like mugging and doing bits, I had completely lost my mind. Obviously lost, like gone. Yeah, it was crazy. The implication you had it, like, what is she computing? Like, she's like, is she from the future or the, like, she's computing, like, the luggage. Um, how much the luggage is going to cost on the way home because she's going right to the airport? She's putting in the GPS to LAX. Yeah. Oh my God. Do you ever feel like some girls are like, I'm ready to go. I'm going to bomb this because I'm done. Yeah. That was 100% me done. I, I wanted, I needed to go. Yeah, it was over. And I was, I'm not saying that to like, as it like, I like as an excuse or what do you call that? Like, when you really tried, but you want to pretend like you didn't because you lost. Sure. Like, I knew I was saving face. Exactly. There was no face to be saved. I was like, get me the fuck out of here because I was actually like, very, very unwell. Um, so the, anyways, so Utica, like that, I hated that so much because God, it's just like, let the outfit, let the outfit speak because it's like, we just want to hear her talk. Well, because I think the, the, the thing that you're picking up on is the fact that they don't have the confidence to let the outfit speak and watching someone beat it, not confident is uncomfortable. Uh, bam. 100%. That's it. Also, it's like, there's the, the further there's the dissonance because it's like, well, why the lack of confidence? Because the, the talent is so clearly there. It's like, smash the insecure person and insecure people make me uncomfortable. There you go. And also, but here, another thing that is probably not very well considered is that modeling is not easy. It's way harder. It, it looks easy. You walk on, you're on your fucking, like, when I'm doing it, I'm like, this is so, like, it doesn't take any work. Like, I'm so good at this. And then I watch someone else do it. And I'm like, Oh, it really is a skill that I have that I was born with. And then I'm like, I just, yeah, it's like an innate thing that I'm just born to do. And other people aren't, like, it just, they don't have it in the way that I have it. And you, I mean, in your so humble, you always forget that when you walk in a room, everybody just quits, right? Because you're like, well, why is everybody leaving? I'm so used to it at this point that I don't, it doesn't even register me something that's happening. No, just because I'm so good. Yeah. Um, no, but you know, you're on your fucking, you're fat ass on the phone watching Naomi Campbell on Instagram. And you're like, how hard could that be? Oh, walking very difficult. Mary, when every, every time me and fucking tricks you do a fucking photo shoot, I swear to God, it's the first time I've ever been in front of a camera. Right. You forgot what your body does. Bam, bam, bam. And I'm like, have you seen the model that the Chinese model who does a new pose every second? Yeah, that's me at a photo shoot bitch. I'm like, let's get me out of this outfit. Yeah. I don't know how to do because I have that kind of face where it's like 35 degrees to the left. It's beautiful. 37 degrees to the left. It's disgusting. Like, it's, it's hard. It's like, she's got a mask on. Right. She's going to mask on all she has to do is make sure her eyes are open, which is difficult to let me know, like, like, she just, there's no expression. She's got a kabuki mask on. I have like a, you know, something else. So, uh, okay, so eliminated first, ultimate humiliation, almost killed yourself. Then, um, I will say I never considered, uh, uh, Sue of sides. I don't know. I'm not talking, I'm not exaggerating. I did. I watched the, I watched the part about episode two, which is crazy to already be on the ledge on episode two. The ledge is only four feet at four floors. They saw the psyche balance said second floor. Fourth, I was on floor four. I wouldn't even have broken an ankle. Yeah. No, I would not even broken an ankle. Sometimes doing bad on drag race is a blessing because you get to show what you are. Good. Out, which is for you, lip syncing to an Olivia Newton-John song. Well, you know what's funny is that I just recently found out she had during the year that I was born, physical was number one. That is crazy. What was that? 1982 in May. Um, much. And then what else? I love rock and roll was the number one song on the day. I was born. Huh. Yeah. I'm John Jeff. I don't even know what mine was because it's control group. Tell your date of birth. 93 July, 93 July, what? Sixth, seven, six, 93. It's every roughly take by the police. Oh, the stalker song. Yeah. But I'll shit you take every orgasm you fake. I'll be what every ass you blow. That's where I will go. I'll be watching. - Wow, there's a theme, there's a theme, freaky. - Is that always on my mind? - Oh, that was in practical magic, that's creepy song. What is your favorite movie? - Alien, which is your second favorite movie? - Alien. (laughing) - I was like, I wanted to like, I wanted to, I wanted to confide with you earlier, but of course I was late that I wouldn't have a questionnaire where you just go down to it. Every single thing is the most obvious alien. (laughing) - It actually is alien though, I love that movie. - Independence day. - No, what is your favorite alien movie? - Let's go down. - Alien. - The first. - The first. - The first one is amazing, the second one is good. - The rest up to Romulus Art. - They're not trash, they're a hard watch sometimes though. - Well, I mean, I don't want to tell you Miss Alien, but like the cool thing is that the first one, you don't really even see her until like 45 minutes into the film. - It's scary. - There's a lot and entity attention. - Well, it's a horror movie, right? - Yeah. - And it's body horror and there's sexual non-consent elements to it that are horrifying. - A lot of it. - Like you've been impregnated against your will and that is terrifying to me. And then the second one is a little campier. And then the third one is a fucking hot ass mass. - Yeah. - And then the first one is kind of a masterpiece. - A masterpiece. - A masterpiece. - And it's like one of those things that's that less is more like don't show, don't like draw it out but don't make it boring. It's like 'cause you really don't get a good payoff until like an hour or something. - Right, and the tension keeps ratcheting up 'cause people are disappearing. - Yeah. - It's a perfect movie. - It's great. - I also like 2001 a space Odyssey. - Okay, now that is a slow burn for these TikTokers at home. They're never gonna, they wouldn't last a minute. - They could if they had Subway Surfer plan beneath it. - Subway what? - Subway Surfer? - What is that? - There's TikToks where they show a clip but half of the screen is the clip and half of the screen is someone playing this game on an app so that there's something to watch when the clip gets slow. - That's like fucking twitch. - Totally. - Okay. - I'm gonna go down and listen to movies to tell them if you like or not. Mars attacks. - It's a good movie. It's fine, it's fine. - It's fine. - In terms of Tim Burton's uvro, what do you think his best movie is? - I really like his claymation movies. - Shockingly. - Was that Frankenweening? - No. - Might be. - No, that's not him. - He did Corpse Bride and Nightmare Before Christmas. - Oh, those ones. Okay, okay. - And honestly, I watched Nightmare Before Christmas last year. - It's a bad movie. - Oh, bad. - Bad movie. - Talk about it. - Talk about it. - Beautiful visuals. - Talk about it. - Story, so slow, pacing, abysmal. - Really. - Really. - Okay, I'm gonna go rewatch it. - You're gonna sit there and be like, "Why is this a classic?" - Oh, wow. - Bad movie. Well, he really flopped off hard. - Yeah, that else in wonder answer. - Badgeo. - I recently watched P.B.'s Big Adventure. - Love. - Sure. - That's a great, great, great, and it's like, you know, it's like an odd scene movie trying to get me to watch his documentary. - P.B., yeah, I watched that. - Is it amazing? It's pretty good. I wouldn't say it's amazing, but it's pretty good. And the, but man, oh man. What, what really fucking bifft so hard? Oh. - Beatlejuice too. - Oh, Beatlejuice won his bad. I'm in a fight shoot of it. - No, no, no. - Have you watched it recently? - I have. - But it takes for, where is Beatlejuice? He takes forever to get there. - I think you got something wrong with your brain, Mary. - Yeah, I'm the one here who has something wrong. - I got it. (laughing) - Turn the way we ran around. - I did, I did, I did. - Turn it around. - Actually, it kinda looks good about that. - It's very Brooklyn, very Bushwick. - Oh, is it, I just need like three P.B. - You make a bunch of latte fiercely. - But it like, it takes me 15 minutes away. - Now it's Venice Beach. - Yeah. - Venice Beach. - What do you think about Lana Del Rey? - Like her old stuff. - We just high five, everybody on the two. - We're bros. - Okay, wait, hold on, let me just, her first two albums. - Okay, let's, okay, we're gonna steer, let's fuck Tim Burton, let's talk about Lana. I like how sad she was. - Well, we're back to Tim Burton, sorry. (laughing) - Beatlejuice, Beatlejuice really made me angry. - Angie girl. - Angry because the only, the only like clever thing about it I thought was making Delia a performance artist. I thought that that was very clever. - I haven't seen it. - Okay, well, it's, grow inside. - They did that, that does seem great. - So, Lana. - Lana. - We're almost out of time, but we're gonna go over 'cause I was late. The Lana, tell me, favorite album. When, what is your appreciation of Lana? When did it start, has it waned? What's the timeline of your Lana? - Right after I started having sex, which was bottoming in college. - Okay. - It's sad because it was always terrible singing about men who aren't respectful and have unrequited love, born to die. - Born to die. So first album, this was. - First album, when it came out, I was on Tumblr, so I was on the cutting edge. - Okay. - Literally, yeah, you chopping it up. - Chopped it up! - Chopped it up. - Oh my god, no man on the two, we're talking about self-harm. Okay, the chopped it up. - You chopping it up. - Have you not seen that? - No, I've seen it. - It's terrible. - There's this famous clip of Lana about greeting fans after a show, and one girl clearly has self-harm scores on her arms. She's like, "Were you chopping it up?" And the fan goes, "No man." - No. (laughing) - Which is funny. My tattoos cover a ton of choppy marks. - Oh, how dark. - Oh, come on. Like I said, 13, drinking blood. - My boyfriend has a couple and the first time I saw them, I went. - Will you stop for me? (laughing) - Wait, are they on the inner thigh? - Oh, that is for me, secret. - This is like so, to me is like a bridge too far. - Oh. - Well, because it's okay if you can see them. - No, no, no, because that's all for help. - Ouchy. - I think there's less sensation there. - Oh, that is 100% not true. - No. - Oh my god, you guys seem a little thighs. - Your forearms, you could literally take that. - I have tattoos on my forearms. - This hurt like a bitch. - No, no, no, four, I'm talking the top here. - Oh, sure. - You could hack off my forearm, and I wouldn't feel anything. You want to take a little kneel to my inner thigh? I'm gonna slap you. - It's like the top of the thigh. - Most people I know do this because it's less visible. They're thinking ahead, I wasn't thinking. I wasn't thinking ahead, I was just like, you were like, "Please, someone fucking put me in therapy." (laughing) - Okay, so when did it drop off for you with Lana? - After Paradise, the next album that came out, I was like, whatever. - Ultraviolence. - Ultraviolence. - I like songs on it. - Okay. - Especially West Coast. - West Coast. Beautiful. - The way it changes. - Fibeless song. - Yeah. - I think, I think that, I wish she still, what I don't think she would anymore, but what a missed opportunity for her to do an album of covers. Oh my God. - Oh God, 'cause her voice is so heavy. - Do you win time? That's sublime cover? I think is, it is one of the best songs ever recorded. - She has such a deep voice that she could really do any of these like really like late 80s, early 90s, moaning guys. - Oh, classic rock. - All classic rock covers. - What's the more, see it banned the Smiths? - The Smiths would love to hear some songs. - Petty Eric Clapton. Imagine she's tears in heaven. - Who would have been a Led Zeppelin song? - Absolutely. Or even I'm fucking, Leonard Skinner, that smell. Can't you smell that smell? - You smell that smell? - The smell of death surrounds you. I mean, if she, that shit in your mouth. No, but I'm serious. I'm totally serious. I'm dead serious. If she did like the doors, are you kidding me? - Oh, toll. Oh, and she already is Van Morrison. - Van Morrison. - When there are, I mean like that. - Van Morrison. - Like she would, oh, she would just like bust open the door and we'll hold. - I know, she's listening. - Hopefully she takes this. - Of course she, oh yeah, no, she's listening. I know she's listening to the '70s classic rock. - Yeah. Down. - She's got that alligator boyfriend over there. - Oh my god, what a freakazoid. - No, but I'm, she would, oh my god. - Would you ever marry a not famous person? - I mean, it's the only kind of person I would ever marry. - Oh, you'd never fuck a famous person. - No, I would fuck a famous person. - Sure. - But I would never marry one. - You don't even want to be in a relationship with someone who understands what you're going through. - No. - Oh really? - No. - I would never marry an actor. - You have to be the star. - And no, no, no, I have to be the one on camera. - Yeah. - You cannot have two people who are both in front of the camera. - You're talking about that's like how most Hollywood relationships are. - And that's how most Hollywood relationships. - Sure. - I would say, like you can marry a grip, a producer, a best boy. - Yeah. - Best that turns into a best man, you know. - It's the title of the person. - Yeah. - I mean, just think about it, like two stars. - Powerhouse. - No. - Like especially gay, two of the same gender. Fuck off. - I mean, like Lydia and Query came. Who the fuck is that? (laughing) Are you, they are sister-dicking? - They're in a very public relationship and they vlog together in drag. - You see, there you go. Tic-tac, Clarice, Tic-tac. - And they're greater than the sum of their parts. Kind of like you and Trixi. - Words like you. - I think I'm gonna throw up. That's something that is greater than the sum of your parts. (laughing) - You know what that means? - Let's get back to Lana. - Okay. - Hey, whatever. - I don't, wait. - I came on this podcast to talk about me. - Wrap your cards about questions. - You know what, let's do it. We're gonna do a rapid fire. We're gonna do rapid fire, okay. If not alien, what profession would Irene be? The cashier, the proctologist? - I was gonna say proctologist. - The proctologist. That does not exist by the way. - I'd be digging up in your ass. - There's a fake profession. - Really? - Yes. - When have you-- - Or what's the OBGYN? - What's the OBGYN? That's a gynecologist. - Yeah, gynecologist. - I would be a gynecologist. - What's the OBGYN? - Again, up and up. - What were your initial thoughts of the tournament twists on all stars? - Loved it. That means I didn't have to worry about getting eliminated and not being on episodes again. 'Cause I already did that, and I didn't need to do that again. - There you go. - Do you think we should bring back Maldrag? Like season two, GigiBedrag? - Yeah, there's a drag queen who is bringing back Maldrag and she has a show called Maldrag. And I want to show her out her name is Miss Mamshi. You would love her. Miss ma'am. She Miss ma'am. She Miss ma'am. She's in Brooklyn, New York. She has a show. called Mall Drag that she tours with. So if it comes to your city, go see it. - You will be wowed with her camisoles and slacks and jumpsuits fabulous. - Little like this here. - We need to, we do need to reset because this is like, it's too much. - I mean, I was, I was talking with somebody about going back on some kind of all-stars thing and I'm like, are you fucking kidding me? I would get that list and I would just kill myself. (laughs) I mean, I don't, I don't-- - Well, no one's going to the cottage show to see what you wear. - I mean, that's like, I know that's a joke, but it's also kind of like-- - It's not a joke. - No, I know, but like you have to like sparkle, nearly sparkle, like you got to make an effort because you have to, like there's a big responsibility whether you like take yourself seriously or not, if you're going to go on the show, you have to like bring it and I couldn't even, I couldn't bring one thing. Do you know what I mean? Like I just-- - You have nice drag. - No, I don't, but it's too, it's, I have one pair of nice shoes that took me three weeks to rhinestone. That's all I have. Like it's not, it's not, it's not the vibe. - What made you do the move from Texas to Seattle? - Texas sucks ass. - Really? - All cities? Where's Dallas? - It's the worst one. - Oh no. - I would call it Dallas. - Texas, maybe two, one, three. - It's two, one, four. - Two, one, four. Oh, you're right. Two, one, four, witness. - I'm a very good boy too. All right, when did you find out you could juggle and can you please do it now? We don't have time. How does it feel to be the first queen in drag race? Her street to quote sunsue on the show. Did you cruise the art of war on the show? - Uh-huh, fierce. - Yeah. - What did you say? - When your opponent is at their weakest, that's when you strike. - Oh my god, it's so fierce. Yes. - I may touch you with a five point poem exploding heart technique. Okay. Bosco tweeted that lips syncing to pocketbook featuring ludicrous by Jennifer Hudson was a humiliation ritual. Does that also resonate with you? - No, 'cause I'm from Houston. - Okay. - Houston, I don't love her. She's too big. - No one loves her. - She's too big. It's car dependent. Nothing like L.A. - Okay, that's fair. - I just clocked you fiercely, sister. That's fair. That's fair. Everybody on the 402, we're fighting. Do you still put people's phones in your mouth when you perform? - I don't think I ever. - Oh yeah, no, I do, yeah. Like how do you, like are we talking Nokia? Like 2001 Nokia's or like iPhone? - If someone's recording me and they're like up in my- - iPhone Max 16? - Jesus Christ. Well, you know who fucking people's feet in their her mouth? - Nina West. - Yeah. - You can say it. What's your taco bell order? Number seven, quesadilla with a taco and a drink. - Okay. - Do you like cheese? - Do I like cheese? - Oh baby, you better believe my shits are slow. - What? - What does that mean? - When you eat cheese, it slows your shit. - Okay, that's why I blast. Okay. (laughing) - Got a blast. - What gives you, in this day and age, and these troubling times, what gives you full body chills? - Full body chills. - Seeing, oh God. I have a sincere answer, is that okay? - No, we'll move on. Okay. - What's something that makes you say, work at Huntie, Diva Boots? (laughing) - Ah, I should have performing. - Okay, okay, fierce. You lost lip sinks to trans women. What does it feel like to be the ultimate ally? - It's just, it's what I have, it's my responsibility as a cisgender male presenting, he, him, pronoun having person in the standing. - As a shit suck in boot lick and piece of trash. - Across the- - Across the- - Across the- - Yeah. - Okay, that's it, actually, let's go, but I would like to hear your sincere answer, anything everybody else would. What is something that gives you full body chills? - It's just seeing how this administration's policies are affecting the mental health of the trans people in my life. - For the better, right? (laughing) - How they're, I mean, their help, it's, when the government finally helps people, it's really inspiring. (laughing) - No, isn't it? - It's horrible. - So, you're thinking chills like, ooh, that's horrible. - It's freaking me out, yeah. - I was thinking chills like, oh good, oh, what gives me good, full body chills? - But we can do both. - Twink with a fat ass. - Okay. - Okay, another rapid, quick, quick rapid fire. - What is the sound that you love? (laughing) - What is the sound that you hate? - Styrofoam. - Oh. - What is your favorite curse word? - Cunt, cunt. - If, if heaven exists. - It doesn't. (laughing) - If heaven exists, when you die, what would you like God to say to you as you arrive at the pearly gates? - You did your best. - Okay. (laughing) - All right, I rean the motherfucking alien everybody. Give it up for Irene, Nadu Boa, the alien. - Thank you for having me, God Joe. - This was such a fun time. Thanks for being here, and once again, I'm sorry that I'm late, but you see how tan I am, I couldn't help that. - It was worth it, honestly. - Thank you. - Yeah, we had to take the time to install the hair. - I mean, that's your natural hair growing out of your head. - It's really, it will finish, it's somebody's natural hair. - Should we finish the pod by scalping ourselves? - Oh, sure, ready? - One, two, three. - Thank you. (upbeat music) [BLANK_AUDIO]