Interviewed on the CLF Protocol by Vanessa Lopez

[Music] You're listening to episode 345 of My To Life Radio and I'm doing something different here. I was recently interviewed on my friend Vanessa Lopez's podcast called Intentionally Well and we went into the CLF protocol, the protocol that I created stands for Calsification, Lipophuskin and Fibrosis. I break all three of those down, what they are, what the solutions I found for each of those are. I talk about my philosophy in general with nutritional supplementation, why it's just as foundational as a good clean diet and filtered water and getting outside and getting sunlight and all the things that you always hear about on social media and other health podcasts. Taking isolated vitamins and minerals are just as important and I make the case in this interview. If you hear some funny parts, it was quite the experience getting this done. It was four hours in total even though the show wasn't that long because we were having some technical issues and near the tail end of it, both of our animals her dog and my cat wanted to be on our laps and unfortunately this is shedding season for my cats and so I had my cat lava's fur making my nose and eyes very itchy. So in the video portion on her YouTube, I'm just constantly rubbing my face near the end of the show. So I do recommend the audio version of this interview instead of the video version. Most people I think listen to these things while they're driving anyway. But this show is a great overview of my work. I've shared information that I've never shared before about the CLF protocol and how to use these vitamins and minerals to our advantage. And then at the end of it, I answer listener questions that people sent in to Vanessa. So I think you'll really enjoy the conversation. I know I did. So enjoy the conversation. Here is Vanessa Lopez with intentionally well interviewing me on her show. I can't remember the last time I was on your show. I want to say, well let's see, we released it right a few weeks ago or maybe less than a month ago. And I think that was back from 2024. I want to say the summer of 2024. Yeah. So it's been a while, but it's such a pleasure to have you back. Yeah. I think on social media, we see a lot of the same questions roll through from people and usually very specific health conditions and asking for advice. And so hoping with the show, we can help people find some clarity with that and just get some guidance of what to look into which direction to go because every influencer on social media is saying something different. Yeah. I could not agree more. And I think that I mean, I think you and I, we align a lot. Well, for so all we talk a lot behind the scenes. Obviously, we're friends. And so we kind of go back and forth with a lot of things that we see and hear. And it's interesting because like you said, and I think you recently even posted about it, like everybody's got an opinion about everything and everybody feels like they're an expert in something. And there's also sometimes and unfortunately not the best motives with people. And I think that from a consumer side or a side where people are just following along and trying to do the best they can to support their health or to support their families health. There's so much overwhelm and people are so confused. And so I think today our goal, which I'm excited about, I think we've got a great plan is just it's really just about dialing things back and restoring things back to the just just restoring foundations versus like chasing hacks and like fancy things because those can be awesome and fun. But I feel as though people are just completely overwhelmed and there's so much information. And so I think just setting some foundational groundwork, which is what, you know, what we're going to largely go into with your CLF protocol, I think it's going to be really helpful for people. So I'm excited and ready. Yeah. Yeah. I started on this whole health journey in 2010 when I found green vegetable juicing and raw veganism. And I got into supplementation really early, almost immediately because I knew that if raw vegan diet was deficient in nutrients, to the gut level. And I started with Ayurveda and herbs, Bacopa and Bacuna found Sheila Jeep very early, made these, you know, crazy smoothies and raw chocolate at home. And we're just doing so many different detox protocols at the same time. And it really wasn't until I started eating grass fed beef and oysters and raw goat milk. This was roughly around 2012, 2013. But I started to take magnesium and Sheila Jeep consistently and just those two supplements, plus all the nutrients and animal foods and animal products really switched my brain on because I was not a smart kid growing up. You know, our parents did the best they could. But if you're on standard American, you and I, you know, we're not raised on a farm with chickens and goats and cows and, you know, raised on all those high quality foods, we were raised on supermarket foods. And so our brain could only develop to a certain level unfortunately, even the people raised on farms, they're not supplementing and they're still exposed to the same things. The organo phosphate, the glyphosate, the heavy metals, obviously the stuff spraying in the skies. And that taxes are vitamin mineral status. So even the farm people were underdeveloped neurologically. And from what I've researched, unfortunately, that's irreversible. But I feel like I've done at least in job personally of, of at least getting closer to baseline after being underdeveloped. And, you know, my mom was pescatarian when she had me. So zero red meat, you know, when I was in the womb and iron deficiency, it clearly affects the fetus pretty much permanently with, and not fully developed hippocampus and different parts of the brain. The amygdala is altered. All that to say that led me to research all these different supplements and what really matters? What's the foundation? Is it coq10? Is it pqq? Who's it? Tumeric? Is it fish oil? All these like mainstream supplements? Or is it the stuff that I found which are these specific fast soluble vitamins like vitamin K2, vitamin E, and then you get into the minerals, the magnesium, the zinc and specific forms, copper, systemic enzymes, all the stuff that I sell now with my brand Mydolife. To me, those are the foundational things to take. And when I look at the world of supplements, I just see all the little pouch products, the liposomal, the micelle encapsulated, the nano, all these complex, really boutique brands where it's either the liquid pumps, it's the pouches that you suck on, it's just very strange. And all the forms of the nutrients are usually wrong. So instead of a ascorbic acid, it's buffered vitamin C or sodium ascorbate. It's just all wrong to me. And getting back to just simpler makes sense. I mean, I could go on a whole rant about vitamin B3 and how confused people are about NAD in that whole world. But you find nice, cinema, I didn't food. You don't find nicotinamide riboside. You don't find NMN. You don't find NR, all these different really expensive precursors to NAD. You find nice, cinema. And that's the one that I sell relatively safe to take huge amounts of. I appreciate. Well, you said something just a few seconds ago, which made me think of a rebuttal that I know that you deal with a lot. And just this entire little start to the conversation, it really just reminded me of it, which is, you know, you're talking about how we, like you and I have as an example, like we grew up in a time where maybe our foundations weren't set appropriately due to, you know, our parents did the best they, you know, with the information that they had at the time, right? Like we're not blaming anybody, but we did grow out probably deficient in several ways. And there's this whole camp, which you've taken some heat, but you've, you've screamed about, you know, more or less back, which kind of like states that, you know, as long as we incorporate like the right foods and, you know, we do like these really foundational things, right? Like eat and sleep and blah, blah, blah, then we should be on track. And that's not your stance because your stance is really like we don't have the capability to do that now because of the way that the world has gone in the direction that we have gone as a society that we need supplementation and supplementation really is foundational because there's this whole argument well it's not foundational and you're you know you're not going to get the benefits and yada yada yada and there's like a lot of people that scream about this so can you touch on that and then that I think is going to be a good will segue into. You know just kind of bridge like people are so stressed out so burnt out and sort of like start to talk about CLF because I think that's just the way to go today I feel like it's really going to help I think people ground themselves you know yeah yeah well you said the words so stress the people think that. Magnesium potassium those are the big ones to go I mean most people know about magnesium less people know that potassium is also burnt under stress less people know that zinc is burned under stress and it just goes on and on I mean it's pretty much lose a lot of nutrients when you're under psychological physical I mean early any any stresser and I can speak from my experience the last. Really two to three years it's been unrelenting on stop chronic stress which a lot a lot of people can relate to you know whatever it is whether it's relationship pets people family they're sick. I'm sorry if anyone follows me on social media he said pets on purpose. So for a great of new tree and some stress but also the toxic exposure so the heavy metals are a big one and they're everywhere in cosmetic products in environmental toxins the. And then we're going to be able to exhaust from vehicles you know we took lead out of gasoline but there's still all these other things that we get with tires being burned up and you know are salized into the environment and who knows what they're spraying on us in the sky even up here. And then we repeat for binding sites with minerals that's the bottom line and a lot of the Htma people beat that drum non stop and it's true so cadmium mercury arsenic compete with with zinc and same with magnesium. So I'm going to go to the other side of that if you supplement these things specifically magnesium and zinc or the big two but copper also matters and all of the other nutrients matter even the obscure ones like manganese matter but those will help to to prevent toxicity from these heavy metals so you have the stress you have the constant unrelenting matter where you live on earth heavy metal exposure that you have to supplement to keep up with. So those two things contribute to the burn rate. And then also that you're up rigging so the reason why I got into a lot of these supplements like namely vitamin K2. When I was a pretty much a frutarian I was eating 20 plus bananas a day sitting on the couch with a myron glass bottles I only drank out of glass this is my extremist phase and I gently brought the bottle up to my teeth and just chip my front tooth so easily and that was a wake up call it took several months to kind of kick in and realize what happened. My teeth were brittle and I started to research why and it turns out vitamin K2 is required to regulate the pH of your saliva and saliva is what buffers the acids and I was getting a ton of stuff stuck to my teeth when you especially with bananas or one of the worst foods that wasn't chewing xylitol gum or brushing with fluoride toothpaste which would have helped me. And so just to try and obviously no calcium coming in because I was vegan very little phosphorus coming in so I wasn't eating red meat. And taking K2 just for several months I felt my teeth get stronger and that's something that I've heard from so many people even just one a day like a very very low dose of mk4 and mk7 form. And so that started to open my world of okay what you know what else have I been missing well vitamin E that burn rate is increased with vegetable consumption the seed oil thing blew up like I never thought it would. And the last you know four or five years yeah but not a lot of people were talking about vitamin E and even less people are talking about that part of my protocol called lipofuskin which we'll get we can get into later. But the seed oil is like the tip of the iceberg and the lipofuskin is like underneath bottom yeah it's it's what that leads to especially for people that are supplementing fish oil and aren't prioritizing vitamin E. There's the seesaw relationship with polyensaturated fatty acids whether it be N3s or N6s is the omega 3s or the omega 6s there's that seesaw where you will complete vitamin E and you can look up PubMed studies on this where there is a specific ratio of the alpha to cough or all to the polyensaturated fats and new tissue and this takes. Several years to reverse once you've gone down the other road so. Yeah these these were like huge revelations that I had over the years of these crucial nutrients and that really inspired me to start my life because nobody was talking about it and. It's way more foundational than all the stuff that's trending now like I mentioned the light but so most of the peptides and a G therapies the IV therapies that's all secondary yeah yeah. Well I think some people know this but you know we we do have a very large handful of questions that came in for this episode so we are going to the plan is we're going to just we're going to tackle those questions and I think what's going to happen is that some of the questions are going to be answered through our discussion. So friends if you sent in a question and we are not specifically talking about or we don't get to the actual question towards the end of this episode because we are going to do kind of a rapid fire or hopefully we're going to try and do a rapid fire because we've got so many but it's probably because the question is already answered within the discussion and Matt's already kind of touched on it because we are going to go through. You know just some of the foundational supplements in his protocol which is called the CLF protocol and we're going to dissect it a little bit I just say he's going to dissect it for us a little bit and really probably it's going to it's going to be good for me because as we were joking about off air you know as I was prepping for this show as much as I've known about and have adhered towards this protocol to I even need a little bit of a refresher course on it because it's always great. Also to just have like the back some really just decent background knowledge and what you're taking not that I don't have that but it's just really nice to like you know come back around and like talk about like these nutrients and how beneficial they are for the body and why you're taking them because that's important you know we're just not like here take this let's pop the pill and just go for it right I mean people do want as you know people just want the quick answer right like just tell me what to take but I always feel like it's important to know. At least a little bit about what you're doing because I think that it translates and it can help and then also just I don't know give you some wisdom about how your body responds so if you've got anything to add on to that before we jump in go for it. I'm really glad you said that because back in the day I would go to people's kitchen and looking their supplement cabinet talk to them and a common question I had for them is why do you take this and 90% of the time it was I don't know I just heard it was good for me. That is the worst answer because that means that they were a victim of marketing and they have no idea the form dosage the purpose they don't need to be a biochemist and you know know every enzymatic pathway of how supplement works but just the very you know at least a one sentence reply of why you're taking something would suffice instead of I don't know exactly exactly I mean I understand you know like you know you know I'm not going to do that. I understand you know like you said it was perfect you said it perfectly you don't have to be a biochemist you don't have to be an expert you don't have to get a PhD in supplementation or in chemistry or physiology or whatever but we live in a time period now where we really need to be the advocators promoters we need to be in the driver seat with our health we are not outsourcing anymore because we've learned right that when we outsource our health to a you know to a large degree it's going to back from the end of the day. It's going to backfire we need to be it quote unquote in charge you know obviously there are things we on our control I get that but when it comes to you know just routines and things that you know we are trying to heal or we're trying to mitigate or whatever we need to be. We need to have some sort of intelligence behind what we're doing and how we are feeding ourselves because that's essentially what's going on. We are feeding ourselves. It might not be a piece of broccoli or a steak, but it is something that is going into our body and making a difference one way or another. So it's important for us to at least have somewhat of an idea of what we're doing. So, with that, why don't we jump in? I would love for you to just give a snapshot, one or two sentence, what is CLF, what does it stand for? And then we can start with calcification. Oops, I just gave it away. But we can start with the C and we can move into it. We're going to do it in three little sections and then we're going to branch out from there. So go for it, my friend. Awesome. Well, I first, well, OK, so I wrote the CLF protocol in 2019 after I basically restarted my life. And this was a combination of essentially nine years of research, just relentless research, I mean daily research and self experimentation of, as I mentioned earlier, proper dosing forms and then which supplements we should prioritize. And what are the three main problems that contribute to all the common questions that they get from people, whether it's high blood pressure, dental issues, as I mentioned earlier, just less resilience to stress, all the common issues that we hear about in its calcification, lipophuskin and fibrosis. And lipophuskin, people will say, I don't know what I'm talking about because I'm not pronouncing it correctly, but it's kind of like Porsche, whether you say Porsche or Porsche, people know what you're talking about. So it's, you're still getting the point across, but lipopusin, people say lipophusin, I say lipophuskin just because that's how it's spelled and it's easy and it's not a big deal to pronounce something different. I know it's late tomato tomorrow. I mean, we were having a conversation there day and I think I was saying Porsche and you were saying Porsche. We definitely knew what we were talking about though. We were not confused. Right. Totally get it. Yeah. And so these lead to a lot of, these basically these three things branch out to so many different conditions. And to me, this really simplified things where I could help more people instead of micromanaging like a lot of people message me every day on social media with very, very rare specific health conditions that I've never heard of and I'll Google it and it's, oh, this is a calcification condition. Oh, this is a lipophuskin. Oh, this is a fibrosis condition every time there's not any time where I Google it and look into what the condition is that I've never heard of and look at what causes it that it's not one of those three things so far. Yeah. So I, if I can, I'm just going to sort of reword or reaffirm what you just said, which is, you know, and again, I say this without shame and I say this without, you know, judgment because I too have been in this position and sometimes it's, you know, put it this way. It's easy to go down this road. But I think, okay, so my first point is everybody's looking for an answer. Everybody wants a diagnosis. Everybody wants, like, they need something to grab onto so that they have an explanation for what's going on because in some way, shape or form that provides some sort of a resolution even if they're still looking for the answers or how to heal or whatnot. Okay, so take that with that no matter what the causes or, excuse me, not the cause, but what the name is or what, you know, you read and the text in the Mark manual, what your doctor is telling you, there's very few, like, they're basically things always boil down to the same thing, which is mitochondrial stress. And those stressors can be coming in from numerous instructions, right? Like stress could be seen and shown in your life in numerous ways, but it always is stress. There's some sort of a burden on the body, whether it's physical, mental, emotional, spiritual accommodation of usually, right? So I feel as though, like, to your point, it's just, that's what you're, it's what you're kind of saying is that like, there's these foundational things and we really are like searching, searching, searching, because we have a unique thing that we've got to tackle. But is it, is it as unique as our neighbors? Well, maybe the name is, but these foundational, these foundational requirements and these things or deficiencies, right? Things that we might be missing or things that we need to look at in our lives. It all kind of wraps back to the same little pile of stuff for lack of better terminology, right? Go on to quote stuff. So I mean, I'm sure you agree. For sure. Yeah. And there are a lot of people muddying the waters by, like you mentioned earlier, the foundational stuff, which is really important, like real food, sleep, sunlight, fresh air. Everybody's talking about that. You know, you listen to shuberman podcasts, just going outside is good for you kind of, kind of scientifically information. But with sleep, you can't improve your sleep if you're frying in 50 Wi-Fi signals, like I was the last time I went to San Diego and an Airbnb in La Jolla with these deficiencies, even an acute deficiency because EMF's lower your melatonin regardless of whether you're wearing blue-blocking glasses or not. It actually lowers your tissue levels of melatonin acutely. So that is a place where melatonin is not a bandaid or a hack. It is a absolutely critical protective substance to take, especially if you live in an apartment all the time, or a population density like San Diego or Los Angeles or Austin or whatever it is, these supplements become foundational for proper sleep. So that's just another point. I mean, there's so many, so many layers to this, but that's just one other angle where people attack either supplementation as a whole, as not being foundational or specific supplements like melatonin that gets demonized and not a lot. Yeah, that's a good example. And I agree with you. I think it's strange thinking, and I understand, like some of these people out here really against it, they've got some of what they say is valid. I understand, right? And I understand where they're coming from. And I also understand that they have probably good intentions, some of them, they have good intentions, right? Like they're really trying to establish an overarching, you know, quote, quote, quote, foundational mindset for people. This is what you need to focus on. Yeah, you're right. We do need to eat well. We do need to sleep well. We do need to get outside and not be in, you know, an office all day sitting and, you know, we do need exercise all the things. But we are not in a, we're in a strange part of time, you know, today. I mean, I don't have any fancy words for it. We are literally in a very altered, very sick portion of life. And it's, it's unfortunate, you know, that we have to be this in tune and we have to mitigate to this degree. But a lot of the foundations cannot be, they just can't be accomplished without some assistance now. And so, and it's not about just, you know, like you alluded to it earlier, throwing everything with the kitchen sink and your stuff like at the wall, like you can't throw everything and just be like, yeah, okay, I'm going to take 40 different supplements and this is going to be it. And no, it's about strategic supplementation. You have to figure out what's best for you, what state of, you know, what state are you in, where are you at in your life? You know, there's a lot of things that come into play. But bottom line, I think today, it's all, it's at mind blowing if someone's walking through life without some sort of supplementation, you know? Absolutely. Yeah. I imagine most people are taking some supplements, even if it's two or three or Costco supplements or Walmart or whatever it is. Yes, don't do that. But, you know, like we said earlier, they don't know why they're taking them. They just heard it on Dr. Oz or on social media, whatever it is. But seriously, yeah, I mean, and I think like, you know, there's still, I would love to make this point before we jump into calcification, which is we, I think people like you or me or a lot of our listeners probably, we tend to forget that we think that everyone is paying attention to the same information that we are. But what I have, what an often after I'm by myself is that we often sit in a bubble, right? It's like, it's like if someone was really, really into cars, right? And so all they do is they surround themselves with people who love cars and they go to all the events and they go to all the things and they read all the, you know, articles about cars and they are really invested. So in their minds, they kind of think like, well, everybody else sees what I do, right? Like everyone sees the same stuff. No. But for mainstream, let's just, let's just stay with America right now. Mainstream America is, is. not seeing a lot of the things that we are blessed enough to be aware of. And so I think that it's just natural for a lot of society still to go to Walmart and pick out the vitamin D off the shelf or the whatever it is, the multi, the curkling multivitamin or whatever, because in their mind that is what is good and that's what they've seen or heard on the news or whatever. Yeah, I think a lot of it's financial too. I mean, I think the country is not doing so great financially right now. I think the feds about to like inject another, forget 16 trillion into the US economy or something like we need more inflation. But I think a lot of people have this view that maybe my life is luxury supplements or these healthy brands. And a lot of them are like I mentioned the word boutique, these Southern California brands where they have all these investors and it's just they're basically sell outs and they're really good ads and SEO and marketing. But that makes that actually makes the problem worse because it's perpetuating the sly that supplementing is supplementing properly is expensive. That's one of my primary goals for my life. Yes, I have products that are you know, $50 and I'm coming out with a chill pill kind of product and a month or two that's going to be, you know, in this 70 range, something like that. But the foundational stuff where we get to melatonin, zinc, magnesium, certain supplements when I have a my life sale, which is often frequent. Yeah, it can be cheaper than sprouts or whatever health food store people are familiar with, whole foods or whatever they buy supplements. So I am in shop, you know, those are those places. Yeah. Even Amazon. I mean, Amazon's kind of the scarier one because there's been so many times where people buy a product and it's not what they're they think they're getting one thing and they're they're getting something else. So do not buy your supplements on Amazon, always buy direct from the manufacturer. And we can get into you know, other stuff later look the third party testing. The research had it flying that I do with my life and all these things if a product's been on the shelf a while. But yeah, it's just the I really do feel for people. I mean, I communicate with people all the time that you know, single mothers with three kids paying the rent by herself, working by herself. And I really try to help these people in prior to you know, even if they can only take two or three supplements with what they have going on, what are they like I'm really passionate about that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know you are and it's commendable. And you know, I've talked to you both on social media and off and you know, we've talked about integrity. And I just think it's unfortunate because we just we don't see it as as much anymore. And I think that just because it's the market is so saturated and there's so much competition and you know, people also are out to make a buck. Most of the time that's their primary focus and that there's nothing wrong with making money alongside of your passion because that's often how it works. It goes hand in hand. But when your soul goal is just to sell, sell, sell and you don't have integrity behind the goal, that's where things really get a little yeah, they get a little little shady. So I and I've told you that for years, you know, like that's one of the reasons why I appreciate you as a business owner. And also I've supported your brand and you know, and just and talk about it because it's stand out in that way. So you know, just a little nod to you. But let's let's let's dive in. Let's dive in so we can just sort of tackle this in the best way that we know how right because I think one of the things that you and I've struggled with is how we gonna dial all this information down right into a into a just a timeline that works. But we're gonna do our best. So in terms of CLF, let's go into the first aspect of the protocol, which is calcification. Give us a digestible breakdown of what calcification is and why we should know about it and how supplements that it's specifically in your line can be helpful when it comes to calcification. Awesome. So with calcification, there's normal calcification and abnormal or unnatural calcification. And I first learned about calcification back in 2010, right when I got into Rovheganism, it kind of goes hand in hand with the detox life. And I was listening to famous Rovhegan's on stage talk about how it's a coral reef in your tissues and magnesium is the cure and of course, calcified pineal gland from fluoridated water and fluoridated toothpaste came into the conversation. And the cure is magnesium from raw chocolate. That was like a couple guys message that they were they were shilling like raw chocolate, cacao, because chocolate is a source of magnesium, but definitely not as concentrated as a supplement. And magnesium is one of the things that regulates calcium, but that's a very elementary way to look at it. So calcification, normal calcification is a process where teeth, bones become ionized calcium gets crystallized and forms your teeth and bones and that's what's supposed to happen. But when abnormal calcification occurs, basically the calcium goes where it shouldn't. So this includes the soft tissues. So this includes your blood vessel diseases, high blood pressure, one of the most common causes of high blood pressure is calcification in the soft tissues. Blood vessels, arteries, congestive heart failure, which I've had in my family, that is largely caused by calcification among other things, just overall deficiencies. But vitamin K2, magnesium, those are the main two that regulate calcium. There's also this really complex vitamin D piece, which lately I've been seeing podcasts coming up on vitamin D kind of parroting the root cause protocol mentality that, oh, it's, holy calciferol is used in rat poison, which I used to say, which is vitamin D3, which is the common supplement. And that is true, not all rat poison though. And it's a dose that overwhelms their kidneys. So obviously there's a body weight consideration here, you know, like 155 pounds, how much does a rat weigh a lot less than me. But too high or too low vitamin D can cause abnormal calcification. And this occurs because of a hormone called parathyroid hormone. So parathyroid hormone pulls calcium out of the bones. And we don't want high PTH and you could get a blood test to see where you're at here. If someone has a deficiency of vitamin D, for a lot of people, this, they have a genetic defect or they can't synthesize vitamin D from sunlight. So they absolutely need to supplement, which flies in the face of all these anti vitamin D people going on podcasts and screaming from the mount tops. Nobody should ever supplement vitamin D ever. Personally, I don't supplement it. Personally, I hover with my blood tests in the low 30s. There is that reference range that people talk about where it's I think 40 to 80 and depending on, you know, whether it's quest or whatever lab, you know, there's the reference range is different. My philosophy on vitamin D is the same as serum ferritin where it's individual where the reference range for serum ferritin is so big, so wide that who is to say that you have to be within this very specific window if you feel good. You know, if someone's over a 300 ferritin and they feel like crap and they're fatigued all the time and they donate blood and they feel better. Okay, and I know I'm going off on a tangent here, but I'll roll back to calcification. Yeah, yeah, no, go. This is good. But if there's if there are teens ferritin and they're feeling super fatigued and they supplement iron biscleicinate or hem iron or whatever ferritin plus or whatever iron supplement, they feel better and their fatigues away, then obviously they were out of their personal reference range of what's healthy. Same goes for vitamin D. I know the rapeseed people are just absolutely religious and aggressively defensive about vitamin D and how safe it is. And I have noticed over the years they've thrilled that back quite a bit to where they aren't as brazen about it talking about, oh, it's safe to take 10,000 IUs or 20,000 IUs for days at a time and has all these benefits. For certain people, I'm sure it does. I've done a personal as I do, I feel a responsibility as the owner of a supplement company to go to extremes with doses. So there was a time the last several years, like it's been four years. probably three, four years, where I did take mega doses of vitamin D three for a while, and I felt worse. So I, and this was with the cofactors, which people think is, is just K two, but there's all these other things that play in the other fat soluble vitamins. Obviously, A, D, E, and K, there's a balance there with all the four fat soluble vitamins. And they protect from each other's toxicity. That's the thing. So all the grant general anti vitamin A, vitamin A is the toxic people. They have no clue that vitamin E protects against vitamin A toxicity, and they all work together to protect from if there's an imbalance. And it's really hard to screw yourself up unless you're taking, you know, you're eating polar bear liver, or you're, you know, you're, you're taking the columbra protocol, COIM, BRA, A, A, V's book, or, you know, 100,000 I use the D three a day. Unless you're doing something extremely extreme like that, it's hard to mess yourself up, yourself up with vitamins. It's interesting that you say that because I feel like that is such a fear, that is such a common fear, and that's a fear that drops into my messages all the time. So I'm glad that you went in this direction because that's, this is what I hear. I don't want to make myself worse. I am scared that if I take this, then I'm not going to know how, what else to take because things are synergistic. And so I might as well just not take anything at all. I don't know how this is going to affect that. And like, you know, I'm just over here just learning as I go to do, and I'm not the going to go expert, although I talk to them all the time. But I, and I understand where this comes from, I absolutely do. And it's just a lack of education all around. Like we're not taught this stuff growing up. We have no idea. Like we're not taught the right kind of nutrition or the, you know, the, the, I just don't think that we have the foundation set and from a young age. And so it gets natural. And I think with all the information out here, as well, floating around, one person saying this and the next person is saying this. And then you've got like, you know, person, you know, 10 over here saying that two and a half of this horn. And so it just becomes so overwhelming that people just stop and they don't do anything at all. And so I like how you said it's really, really hard to screw yourself up because I think people are super scared of toxicities, even more than they are scared of deficiencies. And what you're saying is actually no, like you really have to go overboard. Yep. Absolutely. Yeah. People are afraid. I mean, certain supplements, people, I would say should be afraid of, but those are the franken supplements marketed by these boutique brands where it's a schmorgasbord, you know, the, it's a, when you look at the total ingredients, what the other ingredients included, you know, 10 or 15 ingredients because and those tend to be the pouches and the spray prod, you know, the pump products because the liquid formulations, they have to add these emulsifiers and preservatives, even if they're natural preservatives. And that just increases the risk of allergic reactions. So the reason why I like pills, although pills get demonized, it's because they are cleaner. I don't need to shove all these, all these preservatives and things. The preservative is the capsule that's protecting it from oxygen and oxidation. And then when it's a sealed bottle that's unopened, that's a second layer protection from oxidations. The product almost lasts forever, not forever, but many, many years way more than liquid product, way more than a powdered product in a, in a bulk container. But, but yeah, absolutely. A great point that you may hate. And I do want to go back to calcifications. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Please. Kidney diseases, our calcification, even things like breast cancer, calcification, obviously coronary heart disease. People are having a lot of heart issues, whether it's, as I mentioned, congestive heart failure, palpitations is common. Basically from the heart, where the blood's going out, I like to think of it, like there's highways, just like if you zoom out on Google Maps, there's highways, there's side streets, and then like me, there's like super side streets, like dirt roads. And they get basically get smaller. So blood vessels, blood vessels are arteries, blood vessels, capillaries, and it's like these tree branches going out throughout our body. And there's super small tubes can get clogged very easily when we're talking about the scale. They're tiny, like the capillaries. And as I mentioned, when calcium is not properly regulated, and the calcium regulators are largely magnesium and vitamin K2, there's also boron involved. But if I just had to pick two, it's magnesium and K2, and most people are deficient in those two nutrients. Yeah. That's when calcium will get deposited into the soft tissue, into these tiny tubes, and blood doesn't get to the area. You can't make energy in those tissues, tissue function fails. And so it's so wide reaching the number of conditions that this causes. But the first, I mean neuropathy, lymphatic issues, obviously heart attacks. With any sort of heart issue, my main nutrients, the main three are magnesium, vitamin K2, and vitamin E. There's a great book by Wilfred Schute called Vitamin E, the key to a healthy heart. And vitamin E is probably the number one underrated heart supplement. These are two Canadian doctors back in the day. Can't remember what year I want to say it was in the maybe 70s or 80s up at Canada, and they were giving high doses of vitamin E to their patients with variety of different issues, not only heart issues, but eye issues, neurological issues. And they found that they reversed their condition. And I'm talking about, I mean, 3000 to 4000 I use like huge, huge doses. And of course, short term, as I mentioned, that balance. If you did that for years, especially if it's de-alpha to cough raw, which is one of the four isomerous vitamin E, there's four toco-tronols, four toco-copherels, alpha, beta, delta, gamma. And in my product, the mix, you want to have alpha and gamma together, because the gamma helps balance out the alpha. There are some studies showing that just taking alpha for a prolonged period can increase cancer risk, and that's because gamma balances it out. So you want to always get the mix to cough raw, especially long term. Short term, if alpha is all you have, that's fine if you're taking it for months who cares. But yeah, this calcification piece, it's so wide-reaching because the amount of people that message me with stones, you know, gallstones, kidney stones, everyone's freaking out about oxalates, obviously. And with stones, they're combination of minerals. And there's even a relationship with mercury and magnesium deficiency. It's a broad topic. But the reason why someone would have stones in general is because they're magnesium and vitamin K2 deficiency. And you stack on top of that heavy metal toxicity, specifically mercury. And yeah, they're going to be more prone to forming these calcium oxalate stones. And there's other stones as well. But yeah, if you have enough magnesium, that'll bind to the oxalate and you won't have issues. But the whole oxalate topic I've made post on this, I mean, a scorpic acid supplementation that people freak out about that I would say it's 5% or less of the population. I don't know the exact percent, definitely 10% less. I mean, I'm just throwing a number out there. But people with a genetic predisposition to forming oxalate crystals in their body that will cause kidney problems and things. Yeah, maybe that population should never supplement a scorpic acid or if they do, it should be very low dose. For me personally, I've taken tens of grams of a scorpic acid and had no issues. And a lot of it too is just dehydration. I mean, not only not minerals, but there's this fear of drinking plain water, which I disagree with. That is going to cause oxalates. Never drink plain water, always add salt. I drink my easy flow of structured water from my to life. I don't add minerals to it. And I'm still alive. It's reverse osmosis water with other processes that go into the filtration process. I think just a lack of fluids in general come again, also increase the predisposition to these stones. But I wanted to touch on the stones because that does relate to this calcification topic. Yeah, I'm glad you did. And I'm sure you get questions about it a lot. So it's important that we touch on some of the things that come your way often, especially because it is so common. But like, okay, so summarizing before we move on, because we're going in, we're going in to lipofuskin. I'm saying it the same way that you are. Okay, Porsche, Porsche. So basically, It's funny, it's funny, I haven't written down in the way that you said it. I literally wrote down in front of me. It's basically mineral deposits and soft tissues or blood vessels linked to cardiovascular aging. And you literally just, you broke it down and exactly, obviously better than me, but that's what I jotted down. Because you're right, it seems like we can focus. Just one whole show, one whole episode, you could just be on calcification alone because it is so broad and there are so many different roads that we can go down with it. But I think for the most part, people get the gist. Obviously, this is all wrapping back to what? Obviously, it's oxidative stress and it's chronic inflammation. And that's with everything. But I like the way that you presented it because I think that people are-- they can probably get a good gauge of why these really common conditions are occurring on such a massive scale because these are such mass deficiencies, right? Like bottom line. Bottom line, we don't have to make it complicated. Absolutely. Yeah. And I see them all three of these things is mainly an obstruction to energy production, which is ultimately going to decrease tissue function. And yeah, if you can't make ATP, you're going to have tissue failure, whether it's the testies, the ovaries, the kidneys, the heart, the bladder, parts of the brain, thyroid, wherever it is, every time it needs energy. Yeah, hence my life. OK, let's move forward into-- I keep thinking about the list of questions that we've got at the end of this. So I'm just like, oh my gosh, how are we going to streamline this? But it's OK, friends. We're doing it. We're doing it. Like I kept saying earlier, off air, we ain't stressing. We're just going to keep going. We're not stressing out. OK, so lipofuskin. This is, to my knowledge, and mostly because of you, over the years, it has to do with age, pigmentation, and oxidized fats, and so forth. And we hear a lot of poofa discussion, and that's gone up and down with within the wellness communities. But how can you break this down in a, again, digestible way for people so that they understand? Yep. So if you-- I look at the airport as a perfect sample size or a sampling of the population. Every time I fly, I'll just study people. It's just fun. I don't have headphones on. I don't-- I'm not listening to music. I'm just observing. And especially on the airplane, because you're close up with people. And generally, with older people, the older generation, the boomers, whatever it is, you'll see receding hairline, almost like the Mr. Burns from the Simpsons hairstyle, and these dots that look almost like freckles on the forehead, and they go up to the top of the head. And then you'll see that as well on their forearms. And a lot of those people are going to order alcohol on the plane, which I'll get into later, because I've seen that. And that is lipophaskin. It's age pigment. And it is caused primarily by a depletion of vitamin E over time from consuming a lot of polyensaturated fats at a balance to a saturated fats while depleting their vitamin E. And even though vegetable oils contain vitamin E, because people make this argument on social media all the time, it's heat-sensitive. So when you heat canola oil, you will destroy the vitamin E in the canola oil when you cook with it. No vitamin E, a lot of poofa, that combines with heavy metals, specifically aluminum. And if someone's prone to hemacromatosis or excess iron, those people particularly Irish descent, they tend to be-- because a lot of people develop that during the potato famine where their body just adapted to hold onto iron. I'm not one of those. I lose iron very easily. But for the people that do hold onto iron, they are especially prone to lipophaskin. And it's essentially this garbage that's made up of discarded mitochondria. There's things called, basically, auto-fagasomes that wrap around mitochondria that are being discarded and they'll get sent to this garbage recycling center in your cell called the lysosome. And this is a sac that's full of hydrolytic digestive enzymes essentially. So these enzymes pull water out of the compounds that are drawn into it. And it'll also bring in damaged proteins as well. So you could just think of-- I don't have trash pickup up here because I'm off grid. But if you live in a city and you have trash pickup, the garbage truck comes, gets your trash and recycling, drives off, and you have an empty bin now to refill. What happens with lipophaskin is it'll fill that bin, that sac, in the lysosome of your cell, but it won't be able to empty. And when it can't empty, you get mainly impaired autophagy. If any of you have ever been into fasting, like I did years ago, intermittent fasting, or a restriction, and you're into this anti-aging thing of increasing autophagy, which you can do through supplementation or through extreme dieting, that process is impaired with lipophaskin stuck in your lysosome or your cells. And it's a scary thing because as far as we know, there's no way to remove it. There are some pharmaceutical products that have been talked about the last 10 years that might remove it. But as far as natural therapies, there's nothing to mind knowledge that exists out there yet. We can just slow the accumulation. And how we can slow the accumulation largely is vitamin E. That's the majority of the studies. When you search vitamin E, lipophaskin on PubMed, a lot of it's cultured cells and rodents, but I don't think that that is invalid. It's still something to look at, especially when it's not one study, but it's dozens and dozens of studies. And there have been dozens of studies showing that sufficient vitamin E intake slows that accumulation of lipophaskin, because vitamin E gets incorporated into the cell membranes into the mitochondrial membranes. And that will help to buffer that polyunsaturated fat intake and also protect from the oxidative stress from heavy metals. And overall, just support cellular function. But funny enough, alcohol consumption, as I mentioned, when it's chronic and overdone, like your day drinkers or your daily drinkers or excessive drinkers, if someone goes out and has a bunch of beers once a week or a bunch of shots on the weekend, Friday or Saturday night, that is a recipe for increasing lipophaskin accumulation. However, a microdose, especially in tincture form, like I take alcoholic nettle root tincture for my testosterone, a free my testosterone, because it lowers sex, hormone, binding, clobulin. That, especially in tincture form, alcoholic tincture form, that will definitely help reduce lipophaskin accumulation. It's just so funny that everybody makes this blanket thing that I think you were in said, there's no safe amount of alcohol or you hear that. But what about tinctures? These things that have been used for centuries, there is a benefit to alcohol to ethanol. It is lipophaskin. People that say that have no clue the relationship with alcohol and lipophaskin. There is a study on that. It's cultured rations, myocytes. So again, it's not a human study, but to me, it's still worth looking at. So that's just kind of a very interesting branch off. It's a lipophaskin. Yeah, lipophaskin connection. So you don't have to drink, but also a red light therapy helps as well, because there's this interesting light effect to lipophaskin that it autofloresces. So it's a brown yellow pigment, but it responds to light. It actually glows when it's hit with ultraviolet and blue light. And then it will admit green light in a different way. And our body is basically like a light show all the time. So we use extreme low frequency UV light for cell communication. And there's a lot that's medicated by light. I mean, the circadian rhythm, quantum health people take this to the extreme. I mean, it's definitely a part of human health. But that is not everything. And I think that is one of the biggest harms to lipophaskin is it's throwing off the light show at a microscopic level in our body. And that causes a lot of harms, because we use light for, as I mentioned, cell signaling and different things. Yeah. Then we could do a whole episode just on that alone, too. Right? It's just like there's so much to tackle. But one thing that I did want to ask you that's coming up is that it would make sense to me. I'm going to pretend like I haven't learned this. over the years. And so, but it just again, it would make sense to me that I need to have to go into it too much, but that vitamin C would also be a big player when it comes to lipophuskin and how that is sort of very synergistic, especially when it comes to vitamin E and also vitamin A, if I'm not mistaken. Absolutely. Great point. Yeah. All the nutrients or that's the fun part of what I research is all the interconnectedness of everything. And yeah, once vitamin E donates an electron to neutralize a free radical, whether it's you know, usually it's in the case of the lipid proxidation process starting, and then vitamin E will jump in and sacrifice itself and donate an electron to stop that domino effect of oxidizing fats in your cell or mitochondrial membrane, once that occurs, vitamin E is spent. And it's called the toco-feroxyl radical and the squirbic acid will come in and donate an electron to regenerate vitamin E so it could do its job again. And fascinating. It's really fascinating. And then there's things that work together to regenerate vitamin C. I did a post recently on vitamin B3 and it's specifically any DH that helps regenerate vitamin C. And so these nicotinamide out of 9 to 10 nucleotide, there's the precursor which is B3, whether it's all those crazy NR, NMN, you know, straight NAD plus, but I prefer niacin or even better nicotinamide. It's called nicotinamide on PubMed, but it's called niacinamide in supplement form. But niacinamide boosts NAD by about, it's only about 10%. But I like the 500 milligrams to 1500 milligram a day dose so kind of divided. I generally, it's a water solid will vitamin. So I recommend people take niacinamide three times a day split up instead of all at once. But that's something to help from, you know, before or after alcohol consumption or even under slept or all sorts of different things. NAD to NADH ratio goes down, meaning we have less NAD with a lot of assaults to our physiology. Lipophus can being being one of them, but yeah, to your point, we have enough B3 to make NAD to make reduced NADH. NADH will regenerate vitamin C, vitamin C can regenerate vitamin E and it all kind of plays into each other. So I'm not just like coming out with supplements, well, and nearly randomly, the whole mytolyph line is it's an interconnected thing where yes, there's some other things I want to add. I would like to at some point come out with an iron supplement because I feel like that is that is really important for a lot of people, especially women that are developing a baby in their womb. But there's selenium, there's boron, there's other nutrients that are super helpful for a lot of these things that I'm talking about. Selenium has actually been found to slow lipophuskin accumulation as well. So fish, oysters, you know, as far as whole food can help. I kind of look at, you know, this whole discussion, not discussion, but the body in general and how it works and just this energy between vitamins and minerals and just all of the processes that go on in my mind, this is where I go, I look at it as a web, like a spider web and like everything is, it's just this massive inner connected web, right? And it's just, and that might overwhelm people and even sometimes I get overwhelmed by it because I'm just like, wow, like I could never even, like I could study this for 30 years and I was still not even get to the center, you know, so to speak because there's just so much to learn and so much to discover and uncover about this, this synergistic quality of how everything works. But it's also really cool and really fascinating and wow, can it make a dent if you get things even halfway going with the, with the right supplementation and the ways that we can, you know, both feed and then mitigate appropriately and accordingly. So it's just fascinating to me, you know, like you've just sitting here having this conversation, like I know and you know, I've learned and all that, but just like to review it like this and to talk about it again, it really is so mind blowing. It's the complexity and the like the miracle of our body is just mind blowing. I mean, don't you agree? Yeah, we've talked about it before how symptoms like going off symptoms is okay and when you implement some of these things, you do feel better. I know that was my personal experience without even blood tests because you're filling in these gaps. Okay, so why don't we dive into fibrosis now? And I personally get a lot of questions about this and I think, you know, oftentimes that revolves around dissolve at all, which I'm sure you're going to mention in a second, but I find this part of the protocol to be so fascinating because oh, we've got a guest. Sorry for those of you that are not watching. I have to say is that is that lava? That is lava. Yeah. I knew I was hoping he'd make a he'd make a little appearance. But so yeah, fibrosis. And you know, obviously like you do what I think is an excellent job of breaking this down. No pun intended, but it really does have to do with connective tissue and sort of what happens in our body. And so I would love for you to sort of just again, give us some information about fibrosis. That's easy to understand for our listeners. Yeah. So whenever we have tissue injury, we have fibrosis occur. And if it's, I'm sorry, a fibrin, which is kind of like a bandaid that goes to the side of injury, patches it up and there's normal, you know, processes that go on. But when it's prolonged, whether it's post surgery or prolonged oxidative stress, he's trying to get in. I knew it. He is. He's trying to come up here. He's a star. He's a star. A lot of people have heard of like pulmonary fibrosis, which is, you know, lung fibrosis, brosis of the liver, that's a form of fibrosis, even Crohn's disease, scleroderma. There's different skin fibrosis conditions. He's not taking over an answer. There's a for those of you who can't see and because we, the majority of people who listen to this show are listening versus watching. But Matt has two black cats and one of them has decided to join the show. So and we welcome him. He's a star on his own. Exactly. So whether it's the liver, the lung, the heart, the kidney, the skin, those are common places where prolonged fibrosis leads to tissue degeneration. And it's essentially in a nutshell, like an excessive build up of fibrous connective tissue in the extracellular matrix of areas of the body that have been injured. So, you know, basically, basically scar tissue, essentially. And what's funny is kind of not to complicate this, but going back to, um, wipeofluskin for a minute, there are these cells called fibroblasts that are found in our skin. And those are related to fibrosis. So if, if we don't have tissue injury, the fibroblast cells do not divide. And that's a bad thing for lipofuskin because that means that lipofuskin will just stay there. But when cells divide, like it's called non-mitotic cells, like they tell us in the heart and the brain, but that's questionable if our heart brain cells can never divide. I've heard mixed things on that. So let's just say for argument's sake that the fibroblast don't divide, the lipofuskin stays there. If they do divide, the lipofuskin will actually be cut in half. And some of the lipofuskin will actually leak out in that process and basically be detoxified. So that's something that I neglected and mentioned earlier that I've never said before, whether in a post or a podcast about lipofuskin, that a good way to detoxify it is with cell division because it basically dilutes it 50/50. So in the case of tissue injury, that's actually a good thing for lipofuskin funny enough. As long as it's not a prolonged process. And when it is prolonged, we get those conditions that I mentioned. Fibrosis at the heart, of the liver, of the skin, scleroderma, and that come with all these different side effects. And lung fibrosis can actually be caused by, for example, tuberculosis or pneumonia. I had walking pneumonia growing up as a kid. I had to go on medication for it. It was about really intense. But if If any conditions prolonged in whatever tissue or organ, that lead, it's like, irritation, inflammation, scar tissue formation, fibrosis is a way to think of it simply. Fibrosis is like the end product. And to get rid of it, one of the best therapies is systemic enzyme therapy because what these are called proteolytic enzymes do. Natocanase and seropeptase are in the literature. It's called seradiopeptidase. It's weird that they call things different names in the PubMed literature. It confuses people because you can try to search for the ingredients in my life supplements. You're like, "I can't find it. Where's nice cinnamon?" It's nicotinamide. Same thing with seropeptase. It's seradiopeptidase. And that will actually, those will go in and break up that excess scar tissue systemically. So you take. Just to back up, natocanase is originally derived from the fermented soy product, Nato, which tastes disgusting. I've tried fermenting it at home essentially once. It was really bad. One of the few sources of vitamin K2, though, which is interesting. I mean, in MK7 form, MK4 K2s found throughout animal foods and cheeses. But seropeptase, that's from the Japanese silkworm. And that's what the silkworm uses to dissolve its cocoon is this enzyme, seropeptase. And the cocoons are really, really hard material, which is fascinating. But when you take these as a supplement, and right now, it might or not from soy, they're not derived from the silkworm. They're just cultured, you know, and allowed as the bacteria is cultured over and over again. And I have other enzymes in there as well and bromelain and things. But you take my products called dissolve it all in the morning on an empty stomach before a meal, ideally. I use an eteric coated capsule called Dr. Caps. So it survives, the stomach acid goes into the small intestine and you're able to basically absorb more of it. And it circulates in the body anywhere from 12 to 24 hours, maybe even beyond that. It kind of varies. Well, let's just say it circulates in the body for about a day. So I personally take three capsules every morning on an empty stomach. And this is one of my primary, you know, pro-euthing or anti-aging, whatever you want to call it, strategies, is systemic enzyme therapy. Because we're all dealing with oxidative stress. We're all dealing with tissue injury, not only from calcification and fibrosis, but heavy metals, EMF exposure. I mean, any inflammation will contribute to this process of fibrosis. And once again, we're talking about inhibiting oxygen, blood flow, getting to tissue, inhibiting energy production. And it's not just ATP is the energy currency of the cell. It's ATP is what allows protein folding to properly occur in this dance with structured water. And I've had a podcast where I went into this and I thought some cancer things. But ATP is not just like dollars that we spend in our body to like do functions. It's way more complicated than that, but to simplify it, it ATP allows proper protein folding. And it works with this exclusion zone water in our body to, well, basically ATP allows us to structure the water in our body. And that allows for protein folding, but I had to put it in a sentence. But that's good. That's good. No, that's good. Yeah. But that's really what it comes down to. Once again, all the conditions I mentioned with calcification, lipophuskin, it's a little more complex, but fibrosis, all the conditions that come from fibrosis are numerous. And when I try to simplify health for people with all these different conditions, like we're talking about the beginning, it's talking about these things because these will move the needle for so many different things in the body. Yeah, it's amazing because I might go to response for people that write me about dissolve at all is you need to go to the reviews, but go to the reviews on my life website and read them. It's fascinating because there's such a wide array of testimonies with so many different quote unquote conditions or diagnoses, whatever, however you want to call it. And it's so fun to read through them. Yeah. Yeah. And it goes, I mean, a lot of people have, I was a C section baby or women that have had surgery, whether for pregnancy or for cosmetic procedures, breast implant removal. I mean, there's so many applications or women that still have breast implants. That's a constant source of scar tissue formation. The applications for this are so wide reaching that I can't think of anyone that shouldn't be on systemic enzymes, really. I hurt my personal experience with it and I've told you this numerous times, but it's, I'd say this in vitamin A, but I don't think I've ever seen, I don't know what happened with the light just there right there. Just turned what turned white all of a sudden, but I don't think I've ever seen a supplement work so quickly. Like, so because you know some people are like, well, you know, sometimes they take something and they're like, I don't really know. I'm not sure yet. I'm not sure if it's working. You know that whole, I'm like, well, it's doing something. Like whether you think it is or not or whether you feel something or not, like it's definitely doing something because there's input. But I don't think I've ever seen my body positively respond to something so fast as to when I've taken dissolve at all. And that is what I tell people. And it's, you know, it's my experience. Does it mean it's everybody's experience? But it's, I think probably the supplement that I get the most questions about regarding my life. Because it's, yeah, like you said, there's such a wide, there's such a wide array of quote unquote conditions that people have. And so they, they, they think like, okay, you know, like maybe this is, they'll give it a shot. And then when they actually see what happens, they're like, oh my gosh, my sister's gone. Right. Right. You know, as an example. So. Yeah, not, not to censor this, this show, but the, what I want to call it, the pandemic that we experienced the last, you know, five years. Gosh. There have been studies on, you know, not only for people that got the job, but even just people that were exposed to it, Sarah Pepte's and, and systemic enzymes in general being beneficial for that exposure. Yeah. Whether it's blood clotting, whether it's nasal congestion, chronic cough, excess mucus, the cytokine storm, systemic enzymes help with that by supporting the inflammatory process, reducing the over activation of the immune system. I mean, it goes on and on with the benefits of systemic enzymes. Yeah. I think at immune health is kind of on the back burner for most people until they get an infection, whatever it is. And then, oh, I better, you know, take my honey and leaven and my vitamin C and, you know, get on things now. But no, you want to keep the system strong before you get exposed to whatever it is. And one of my passions the last several years, I would say the last three years specifically is high dose melatonin. It's something that is so fascinating to me because I demonized it for years. And that has application for what I just talked about. And it's involved in this process called phase separation. It's required for that in the cell. And so many, so many critical processes, it's basically mitochondrial fuel, not for energy, but for mitochondrial function. And most people are under dosing melatonin. If they're taking it, they're taking three or five milligrams, which is not enough, whether for EMF protection, protection from viral infection, for supporting the proteins in the mitochondria and the respiratory chain, you need higher doses. And so that's been one of the most fascinating supplements. And a lot of the ones that I have on my website, like even in the case of fibrosis, vitamin B3 has been shown to help prevent fibrosis, acts kind of like an antioxidant or an antibiotic agent. And vitamin B3 is actually very common because all the assaults that lower NAD, which will attack, attack, survive them in B3. So to me, that is one kind of a foundational supplement to take. And the benefit of nice cinema is it's non-flushing, unlike nice in which you get the the sunburn effect of you know turn red and But as we said earlier, I mean all these it's like the web like you said all these things play into each other and It's not just systemic enzymes for fibrosis. It's also vitamin B3 and All the other things that that go together. That's why it's all this product line to just Balance all of that so yeah, no, it's a good explanation and I it brings me back to this the saying and it sounds a little cliche But it's something that always sticks in my mind and you know, I've had you know some of the listeners that have that are regulars of this show they know that I have walked quite a Quite a health journey right and still in it to to a large degree But it brings me back to this quote that goes something along the lines of Maintenance is always cheaper than repair and I feel like with what you just said like it's it's really Important to think about how you can strengthen Your body in this way like everyone says oh, yeah terrain terrain terrain, but like what does that really mean? Right so people can you can to the the Saying all you want and talk about like we got a strength in your terrain, but it's like okay So that's why we're doing the show right because how do we actually do that in a way that makes sense? And that doesn't cost a million dollars or that doesn't require Biz you know, bazillion You know testing and all that because a lot of people to your point earlier don't have that ability and so it's important to sort of Like get get to the point where if something does happen which I've been Unfortunately, I've walked that Path where like you get an assault of some kind on top of all the other assaults that are already occurring like you've touched on throughout the show Or through the episode, but you get a viral assault you get something that really challenges your mitochondria stuff like this Something like systemic enzymes can be so valuable and so critical to like how your body responds when that Assault comes your way. So I like I like that explanation and it just yeah It's I think it's helpful because I feel like a lot of people at least who my camp right and I'm People always have questions about systemic enzymes. It's funny to me more than any other supplement Interesting. Yeah, I think the most common question I get with the systemic enzymes or can I take other supplements with them? And I think there's this myth that or this Misconception that the systemic enzymes will act like activated charcoal and you know activate charcoal ads orbs Whether it's medication or you know, it's like an indiscriminate binder More so than say like zealite powder dissolve at all does not bind to like medications It's their proteolytic enzymes. So it will just target the specific Like fiber in And breakdown these excess proteins in in the tissue. It's not going to affect You know, it's not going to break down vitamin E so that you don't absorb it. It's not going to break up vitamin K2 So I think it's just another like kind of overthinking thing that people do. I mean my routine in the morning is I Wake up I know the cats want their breakfast. So I take my dissolve at all. I take three capsules with several gulps of water Make their breakfast. I usually eat breakfast at I don't know 30 minutes or so after a week up and That's and then I take my supplements after breakfast with my coffee generally. I'll take my gram of shea legit and then I'll take All the capsules, but what I have found is you have to find you know it if you have if you take too many capsules and you're ingesting a lot of water After a meal you could get like indigestion. So the timings important of you know, maybe you Take your capsules right before a meal. It doesn't have to be like exact to the minute when you take your supplements Doesn't have to be that precise just get them in and take them in a way that works for you I think you're right when when you said I think people overthink things I think it's just like it thinks it's just where we're at right like there's just so much information out there and people are saying all kinds of things and worry about this and worry about that and we've made things so complex that we scare ourselves and We give ourselves anxiety when things are really a lot simpler Then we've made about to be and I think that like everyone just needs to Settle down a little bit, you know myself included because sometimes I can get wrapped up too, you know, I mean, you know that but Yeah, I'd say if I'd say if there's nothing else I mean actually what I wanted to say is as you were speaking and you you know, you definitely articulated Hyposis really well and it's helpful even for me, you know to be able to answer questions for people If they come my way and but I think about I think about something like systemic enzymes is like a remodeler Right like it kind of like comes in to Like I don't know tell me if this makes sense, but like it comes in as like a house and it's sort of remodels the excess fiber in and like the I don't even know how to say it like the extracellular matrix You know like safely, right? So instead of like destroying something in a way that's unhelpful It actually comes in and like remodels things so that it's stable for the Body moving forward does that even make any sense? Absolutely. Yeah, and especially if you have the function of like lysioloxidase and you know the copper dependent enzyme, you know, you're not Like a lot of people the last five years mega dosink without copper which I you know even what I was You know back in the day and I still say it to this day is it's that balance, right? of you want to take copper with sink but for collagen production you need a squabric acid and copper and A lot of people now unfortunately because of these extreme ideologies demonize both of those supplements And their collagen is going to suffer for it. So if you do that combination of you have and you don't have to Megadose these things you don't have to mega dose the squabric acid, but just making sure that it's coming in consistently And you could test this on like the illegal scan to see your tissue levels of a squabric acid But if you have a squabric acid copper obviously zinc I mean zinc is like such a foundational on the level of magnesium like it's such a critical mineral in the body that has Just way more. I mean our our human genome the DNA transcription. I mean So many like foundational processes that make us human or zinc dependent the squabric acid the copper dissolve at all or systemic enzyme combo is so important for like you said that skin regulation process and I'm just very Skin-aging I feel like a lot of people are overdoing The sun exposure now. I don't know if it's because of liver canning or Paul Saladino or Whatever it is then you have the opposite Brian Johnson having an umbrella when he walks outside or whatever it is it's there's a balance of Not overdoing sunlight. I know here in the summer I burn very easily the UV index up here in North Idaho can get quite high for several months and so I am Very cautious of of how much time I spend outside and if it If I can't control it I'll wear a wide brim cat long sleeve shirt But that's breathable and that's my My SPF and I'll make sure that I'm getting sufficient squabric acid vitamin E and copper and copper is required to make melanin To have that that natural sun protection but Yeah, I think people are just not aware of I'll easily they can age their skin with overdoing the ultraviolet light Which obviously there's a balance of near and for a light and red light and that protects the chromosomes and and protects from the Photo damage but only to only to a certain extent it's not Like the quantum health people are talking about you also need those nutrients that I mentioned To have protection Yeah, it makes sense. It makes sense. It's complex in a way, you know It's like the last thing we want to do is like overwhelm people But I agree with you. I think that there's a lot of um I How do I say this without sounding judgmental I don't mean to be judgmental. I just think that It's easier to be extreme about things because I think extremism sells and so I think and I think what's happening And I've alluded to this throughout the show is that um that's why people are So overwhelmed is just because like there's so many extreme messages That go on and it's like if if sunlight is great for us, so then okay, let's go sit in the sunlight for 24 hours like regardless of genetics Right or oh, I heard this food is good. Okay, let's go by 16 pounds of it and let's eat it until we fall over You know what I mean like that's just like where people are at today And I just feel like Let's just come back to some balance here with it all, you know Yes, things are complex and yes, we can talk about each and every subtopic for four hours straight. As many people could probably gauge just by this discussion alone, which we've talked about so many things, but to dig into each and everything, it takes time. But I think the overarching theme is like, let's just dial it back a little bit because things don't have to be as complicated as we're often making them out to be. - I love it, exactly. - Well, with that said, we've got some questions to cover. (laughs) We've got some questions to cover. Part two of this conversation. And so what I think I'm gonna do is I think we should just be as rapid fire as possible with these. Some of the questions have been covered in the discussion already and I just wanna say this ahead of time, just for time's sake. Friends, if we do not get to your question, I am so sorry, I apologize. There's just so much to cover and we can make a nine hour episode at this point, but I'll just pick the ones that I think that we haven't touched on and try to get to as many as possible. So are you good with that? - I'm ready. - Let's do it. - All right, let's do it. Can or should vitamin E be psyched or is there any time that we need to take breaks? The second part of this question was, what makes yours different, but for the sake of time you did cover that already. So let's just go with the first part, which is should it be psyched or can we take it year-round? - Great question. So as I mentioned earlier, the four fat soluble vitamins balance each other out. So if someone were to take, if someone were to take massive amounts of vitamin E over time, like I mentioned, the shoot brothers, you would eventually cause a vitamin A deficiency and especially depending on your genetics, like personally, I have a higher requirement according to my genetic mutations of vitamin A. And I don't need to take it every day 'cause it's stored in the liver and it's stored for quite a long time. But I did find that once I got on cod liver oil, which has a good amount of it, and I've even taken retinal palmate by itself, I feel amazing. I feel more cold tolerant. I feel just more grounded, more energized. And this is the beautiful thing about supplementation going off symptoms is it is safe to experiment like that as long as you're not going way overboard. But the vitamin A relationship to vitamin E is never ever talked about to my knowledge. And that is the only thing, but you would have to take, I mean, probably if you're taking six plus capsules of my vitamin E a day, that's when you might run into that vitamin A issue where you might want to add in, you know, rosy to cod liver oil, which is a product that I like. Regardless of the omega three, the vitamin E helps balance that out. And I think the benefits outweigh the detriment there. And vitamin E is not inherently evil. Obviously we need some amount of it, just not like rawndipatric doses of fish oil. So. (laughing) - I knew you were gonna say something about eventually, that's made, that's made. - All right, I think you, I think that's good advice, solid advice. I mean, and by the way, I should have said this in the very beginning, so forgive me friends, but by any means, and Matt will obviously agree, this is not medical advice. So you still need to do what's best for you, you use discernment. I obviously need to come in with a disclaimer that we are not here to tell you what to do. So again, just important for me to state that off the bat. Okay, second question. Weather has been triggering my cold source. Is there anything for a mydelife that can help me with this? - The, I would say the oyster and the beef liver, but I would more so, like I keep L lysine on hand. That's a very, I mean, if you Google that, it'll come up. But that's a really underrated supplement. I'm even considering like adding that into mydelife at some point, it's because it actually has a relationship to anemia. - I mean, iron deficiency, there's so many, it's not just as people scream from the mountain tops, I think overly, but there's obviously there's the copper connection and there's all the different connections to iron, B vitamins, B12, B6, you'll see those as cofactors in several iron supplements. But the L lysine one has been shown to actually increase iron, utilization and absorption, but also obviously helps with cold sores. It's found in topical cold soar formula, cold soar formulas. - That's a tongue-to-tie. - Lava's shedding hair on me. But I can't even see you at this point. - We've been recording on and off friends for a couple hours and so the lighting has changed for both of us. And so if you're not watching, we've, yeah, we've looked different throughout this episode, but we're just like I've told Matt this whole day, for the whole day. We're not stressing, we're just going real time here. - Actually, it's been an intense journey. - It's been a journey. Maybe if you follow us on social media, we'll talk about it later, but we don't have time to talk about all the ups and downs of today. I do love the fact that you brought up lysine though, because that's like such a, this person may or may not know about it. Also if I could, lysine has a second antagonist thing with arginine. And so maybe too, this person can look at foods that may also, foods that are really high in that, they could decrease. Because I know a little bit about this also, just because I've dealt with that in the past. And so increase your lysine and decrease your, maybe just like input of arginine again. This is just things that I've tried, or I've, that have helped. But all right, we good there. - I think so, yeah. Yeah, and maybe if you're on the elk velvet antler, take a break from that to while you're taking the lysine, because I found personally that there is usually all lower, I mean, I've done crazy doses of elk velvet antler, which is a whole food supplement, so you could take massive amounts. But personally, if I am experiencing a cold sore, I'll just take a break from the EVA while I'm taking the lysine, and it usually takes care of itself really quickly. So. (laughing) - We're back, we're back. (laughing) I've told Matt on an off today that today's my first day as a host, 'cause that's how many little, that's how many little mishaps we've had. And it just goes to show that, you know, when there's, I feel like it's warfare to some degree, you know what I mean? There's a lot to be said when things keep going wrong, like you know you're on the right track, 'cause there's been, we've had a lot of technical issues, it's also been really hilarious, like we've made the best of it, but I've now lost my mic twice, so, you know, like I said, we're just going with it. Okay, next question, let's see, supplements that are good for insulin resistance, if you cannot afford to take a GLP one. - Magnesium and zinc probably are my number, well, I would say, Sheila Jeet as well, those are probably the top three. Those are, I mean, zinc is heavily involved in blood sugar regulation. I've done a lot of posts and videos on that. Magnesium is heavily involved as well in the utilization of carbs, proteins, and fats, which a lot of people don't know. Digest at all as well, is taking digestive enzymes with each meal could help, just to help the system, so you don't have as big of a spike, but you know, Dr. Berg and a lot of these people, 'cause I've done the keto thing over the years, insulin is so demonized, but it's not, I don't think it's the evil character that all the keto people make it out to me. It's not like the number one enemy, and it comes down to basically being vitamin and mineral deficient, specifically mineral deficient when it comes to blood sugar dysregulation. Like one thing when I was heavily into rapeseed eating sugar or higher carb, increases your metabolic rate, which increases your nutrient requirements. That doesn't mean that sugar or carbs are bad. It just means that you need to increase the amount of minerals that you're consuming, well, minerals and vitamins, but specifically minerals. Yeah, yeah, makes sense. I hesitate to even ask this question, because we were, our plan was to get more into this, and we just, you know, like I said, we don't have the time, but in a very brief little way, I don't know how you, I don't know how you dial this down, but what are your thoughts on the rage regarding peptides? Yeah, so it's funny because I've, we were talking about it the last few days, like I think we both experienced burnout. It really hit me the last month. You know, it's making part of decisions, letting some people go, you know, sometimes we don't realize how stressed we are until we're out of it. That's how it's kind of my situation. And realizing like, okay, I'm so depleted from, this chronic prolonged stress that had a way recover. Of course, all the nutrients that I've talked about are huge. Like, even I recently dealt with a speaking of chronic stress, put like a couple hundred thousand dollars into a magnetic loadstone bathtub starting in 2022 and three different contractor teams screwed up as far as letting this leak go. So it's been it was leaking not going too deep into this story since 2022. We're now in 2026. And every time I took a bath, it was leaking into the insulation, into the subfloor, into the OSB board, all the way down to my basement below the master bathroom. And I ended up having, fortunately, not stack you botters because I sent it into the lab, but I had penicillium and I can't remember the other mold, but they were, I mean, they both can cause neuroinflammation. Aspergillus, that's what it was. Aspergillus, kind of silly him. Sackybotris is one of the worst, but those other two can be bad as well. And that could have contributed as well to stress, because causing brain inflammation. I bring all that up to say I after another three weeks of people being in and out of my house five days a week, which is a huge stress. I remodeled my bathroom. I got a copper bathtub grounded to the earth, rod to earth. And I've been doing magnesium baths consistently, minimum two to three times a week, sometimes more. And I'm talking a full angst at minerals bag. So the eight pound bags, I just dump it in. And that has been huge for recovering for for my burnout. What that said, circling back to the peptides, I've been researching every possible thing to just expedite the recovery. I know it's a process. People say, you know, don't, don't rush, but I feel like it's individual. How fast we want to go in recovering from whatever it is. My case, burnout. So I started looking into peptides and I came across mitochondrial peptides because to me, everything goes back to mitochondria, even burnout. Not just adrenal, but just that feeling of being tired and fatigued. And I found a lany pre-tide, also called SS31, which is pretty trendy. And then this thing called MOTC. And those are the two main mitochondrial peptides to my knowledge that people are using with great results. Some people are non-responders. I've been an incredible responder to SS31. Of course, it's a needle. It's not fun to poke yourself, but it's a half inch subcutaneous, basically insulin syringe with bacteriostatic water. You reconstitute this powder. This is the whole peptide thing. And depending on the dosage, I've just been doing a whole bottle of SS31 versus 10 milligrams. But a lot of the research, there is clinical published research showing that it reverses mitochondrial dysfunction fairly quickly within months at a dose of 40 milligrams a day, which is pretty incredible. 30 to 40 milligrams. So the dose is very for all these peptides, and depending on people's sensitivity, and all of that. But that one's been used to reverse intolerance to exercise and inability to recover from exercise, which comes down to the mitochondria and our muscles. Just overall electron transport chain dysfunction, which a lot of the supplements I talk about help, obviously melatonin vitamin K2. A lot of these help support mitochondrial function, but to have certain peptides and I think just a little short-term boost in addition to the things that I'm talking about can be extremely helpful. So back to your point of like you said earlier, advanced therapies that people tend to go to first, I think, should be after the foundational stuff, after the vitamins and minerals, after you've been taking them for months or maybe years. Or people could do it all at once, but usually people do it wrong when they do it that way. So yeah, I've had really good results so far with SS31. That's been the one that I've been using. And is it for everyone definitely not? I would say definitely get your foundations down first. This is an expensive peptide that tends to be expensive in general. So supplements are a lot more affordable, like my my life supplements and that should definitely be the starting point before you start poking yourself with needles. I mean, needles are not forever once. My hands raised again. Do you see that? Oh yeah. Just raised. My hand is raised. I have a question, sir. No, I think that's good. I think it's good. I think it's good. Nothing is for everybody. I should say very few things are for everybody, but I think because there's so much talk about it. People are so invested in like, obviously feeling better, but the latest and the greatest thing that's out and trending. And so it's natural that people would have this. But I think for you, it's more like, okay, well, to be determined, right? You're just kind of dipping your toes into this. And so without having any fine, you know, finite answers to anything, like you're seeing some some progress with, you know, one or two and stay tuned. Yeah. And one of my guests, I think this must have been four or five years ago, Gionn, he had a knee injury. And I've heard this over and over again that people obviously not into the bone, but injecting like BPC 157 or TB as a TB 500 around the injured joint was the only thing that helped them recover from like it say knee injury. I can say like the little lozenges have taken capsules like oral BPC 157 or oral thymusin one alpha or whatever it is. I've had zero effect from the oral peptides, like absolutely no effect. And I've been consistent with them in the past. But the injectable so far, it's been like an immediate, I'd say within minutes felt effect. So that kind of surprised me. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it makes it in a way it makes sense. But yeah, I'd be interested to see like what other people's experience would be with oral and so forth. But yeah, now the injectables are really, I think what most people are interested in, right? Like, yeah, I think I think for physical injury too. I mean, it definitely like if you like if someone had a stubborn knee injury or stubborn whatever joint injury elbow injury, tennis elbow, I don't know what it is. ping pong whatever. No, it's a what does everyone play now? Pickle ball. Oh, pickle. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, getting like my stack for that would be like dissolve it all. Elk velvet antler, magnesium, melatonin at night, jellyfish collagen maybe. The zinc vitamin C. I mean, basically, I might see a lot of protocol, but just naming like the main one Sheila jeet. And then they add the injectable, you know, PPC 157 TV, you know, TV, whatever, I'm still learning all the names, the joint ones, I've injected around the elbow or the knee. Yeah. I think that would massively accelerate the healing. Yeah. Yeah. It makes I mean, there's there's so much to dive in when it comes to, you know, just all the options out there too. But I have heard a lot of success stories. And I've also heard the opposite, which is, you know, kind of like what we're discussing, you know, like you, your chances are your results from something like adding peptides in or it gives me exponentially better. As I was telling you, Affair, I just had a guest come on and say this about hormones, like, you know, people are so apt to just jump straight into peptides, but like, how are your hormones? Like are your hormones balanced? You know, like, where are you from a vitamin or all perspective? And obviously, if that, if that groundwork or that framework is, is dialed in, then your peptide is going to, or your peptides are going to work exponentially better. So that just makes logical sense. Absolutely. Yeah. And just for a resource, I have no affiliation. I don't know who runs this website, but I found one just except hours, hours, hours, hours on websites and YouTube. peptideinitiative.com is a really cool website. Just there's a catalog basically. So you click a drop-down peptide and there's just dozens and dozens and then it shows kind of what I talked about. A lot of the studies, starting dose, standard dose, advanced dose, and then the research behind it. And it's just easy to read and then you could actually, there's the reconstituting calculator. So you don't screw yourself up and you could type in the numbers. Instead of using chat GPT or whatever people are using. That's good. No, that's a good, we can even put that in the show notes for people if they would like to access that. Yeah. I mean, I have an IV clinic near me and a lot of these I scoff at a lot of these clinics where they're red light beds and Myers cocktail and even if they're injecting methylene blue or curcumin or they're injecting all sorts of NAD injections obviously. I really wish that they were doing peptides instead because a lot of people they just don't have the courage balls, whatever they want to do, inject even subcutaneous. It's just scary, it's sticking yourself with something. But in my perfect world, all of these IV clinics where you sit in a chair and you get a slow drip, they would all be replaced with peptide clinics. I think that would be a lot more effective, be a lot cheaper hopefully. And I think people would get better results. I did a post recently on the Myers cocktail, I have a pharmacist, doctor, friend and town that carries my supplements. We just talked for hours and the last time I was talking to him, he gave me the Myers cocktail bottle that they dilute with the saline bag and slow drip at IV clinic. Horrible forms of nutrients, low dose, they're using pyrodoxine chloride instead of pyrodoxine 5 phosphate, form of vitamin B5. That form makes me itchy. I don't talk about just injecting it straight to my vein. It's just not, people have this misconception that, I mean, and I think this is where the allure of peptides come in is they think that it's all about absorption and we're not, we haven't been, the reason why everyone's messed up is because we're not absorbing our supplements, which is totally ridiculous. The absorption of non-GMO, and my, my, my life one is non-GMO cornstarch derived, ascorbic acid power powder, AA, is equivalent to a vitamin C IV injection if it's taken properly. So there are graphs you can find of ascorbic acid powder supplementation and you see the plasma level of vitamin C. And if you take it, we'll say every hour for three, four hours, you will peak. And if you keep taking it, you will stay where you would stay if you got an IV vitamin C infusion. And this goes for a lot of the other supplements. As I mentioned, the niacinamide, even though it's 10%, okay, if you're taking it throughout the day, and chronically, you have a chronically increased, you know, 10 plus percent, NAD level increase. So it just kind of bothers me, this whole mentality, it's all been the marketers that convinced the health community that liposomal, injectable, you know, the quicks over-scientifics type companies. And I'm not bashing that company. I love their bitters, but everything else I don't really care for, they think that it's better. You're getting more, you're actually getting less value. When you compare it dollar for dollar, you're getting less value from all of these really complex expensive supplements than say the mydelife one, for example. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Okay. That's a question. Problems with breast pain. Is there something that I could do to mitigate this? I mean, without knowing her history, I think does it all but all is a good bet just systemic enzymes to decrease the scar tissue there. It definitely can't hurt. And if it does help, it would probably be fairly quickly, especially if she took two or three capsules every morning on an epistemic. Also red light therapy, you know, you're a big fan of Genbaret and Andrews work, Andrew Latour. That's kind of like an all, all in composing support that I see. I'm a huge fan of Andrews panels. I was fortunate to get like a full body one before he stopped selling it. And yeah, and that's, I would hit the, I like hitting the torso with that. And I would also combine it with the systemic enzymes and see how that works. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And also, you know, obviously this person probably, and I don't maybe they have, but it would come to my mind is like, you know, where are the hormones? What's going on there? You know, things like that. Just some, some, a little bit of maybe testing would help if it's something that's really bothering them. I'm sure you would agree. For sure. Yep. Okay. Next one. Let's see. Genetics and supplements. Advice on how to go about pairing the two. Yes. I've had a couple podcasts on this. And I think it is over emphasized to some degree. People really freak out about like I saw there's a scare with vitamin E and genetic mutations that take vitamin E can cause harm and people are shouting about that. I do think it's overblown generally, but it is good to know which supplements you have a higher requirement for whether it's vitamin D3. Like I mentioned, or nice, cinema in my case, I know Chris master john's talked about how vitamin B2 or riboflavin changed his life based on his genetics. And he used, I forget, I think he might have his own website now with that stuff. But there are options I had a show on self-decode. And that one obviously 23 and me and ancestry, which I think is a little different not as in-depth. And there's questions about them selling your data. But yeah, I do think generally it's over emphasized. But it's kind of a fun rabbit hole as long as you don't become obsessed with it. Yeah. Yeah. Actually, I actually asked this question yesterday on my Instagram account. Well, I put it on both accounts. I put it on the podcast account and my regular account, which is like, I was interested to see if people wanted a show or an episode on MTHFR or even comp to like the computation. Because that's something I'm interested of me for me as well. So I think it'd be fun to dive into. But, and of course, these things play a role. And it can be worth knowing, right? But it's kind of like, you have to be cautious in terms of like how you go about the genetic testing for sure these days, to your point. Yeah, not getting lost in it. I think people think they found that it's all about genetics and how you respond. And if you take something that doesn't vibe with your genetics, you're going to die. It's not that serious. Yeah. Yeah, it can be overwhelming and overblown, I think. Like I said. Yeah. Okay, moving right along. Let's see. Should lithium or a tape be cycled and cautions with other drugs? Yeah. So on the same train as the genetics, the most interesting thing about lithium to me is its relationship with vitamin B12. I mentioned vitamin B12's connection with iron utilization earlier and absorption. And I mean, the B vitamins are like, I mean, there's so foundational to human health, the function that they have not only for energy production, but so many other foundational things in the body that I have a mutation with multiple B12 mutations. So transport, utilization, absorption for people like myself, lithium can change their life because lithium actually transports vitamin B12 into the cell. So you can, like I got a urine test once for you can see your B12 in your urine. If it's super high or even B12's high on a blood test, generally that means that you're not sufficient in it, it's just that it's not getting into the cell. That's usually what that means. So if you start taking lithium, you should see a drop in your B12. And that is a good thing because that means that it's getting inside the cell where it's required and lithium is like a card, a transported in. So that is one of like the, I mean, because most people think about, you know, bipolar, disorder and all the neurological benefits of lithium is kind of like a chill pill, which it is, but it also regulates calcium and back to the whole calcification issue fits in there. So improving heart health, blood, blood vessel health, blood sugar regulation as well. Back to the insulin question, it could help improve glucose metabolism by supporting the pancreas. So many things beyond just neuro protection and regulating the neurotransmitters and emotional stability. As far as does it have to be psyched? I don't think that's a bad idea. What I take high doses of it like today, I took three capsules. Sometimes I'll take four. That's 30 to 40 milligrams. Each capsule is 10 milligrams. I have a pretty high tolerance for it. Some people that are really sensitive, one capsule will make them feel like they're high or that they're euphoric or whatever. In that case, yeah, you probably don't want to take it. daily maybe you want to take 10 milligrams every other day or a couple of times a week, whatever it is. Personally, my strategy with it is I'll generally take one a day, some days like today, if I feel inclined, I'll take three or four, and then I'll take the next day or two off. It's just something you have to experiment with and see how you feel. What I found with Lithium myself is if I feel more sensitive, not easily triggered, but just I just feel more emotionally sensitive, I over did it. So I'll kind of back off on the dosing. No, I mean, well, from I should say, I'm no expert in Lithium, but to me that makes sense, right? Like you can really just like use that as sort of a gauge, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The thing is it's bound to erratic acid versus the pharmaceuticals bound to carbonate. So the carbonate form is less absorbed. They generally prescribe 1200 to 1600 milligrams with mine being that it's so much more bioavailable, you need weight less. But still, I mean, it's still even three or four capsules is still a smaller amount that you would get from that 1200, 1600 milligrams of lithium carbonate. Because we're talking about elemental minerals. So for a mineral to be absorbed, it needs to be bound to something, whether it's an amino acid or in this case erratic acid orate. And whatever it's bound to has its own benefit, but okay, where I was going with that. That's okay. That's okay. I mean, all in all, though, I think you're overall, your overall message is like, is that, you know, I think that it's fairly safe. I think people, okay, I'll tell you what has come across my way. Is it safe? I think that that's to like a question that people have. Yeah. Probably coincides with cautions with other drugs and like what this person was asking because for whatever reason, there might be like a stigma that it might not be super safe to take or super safe to take with other things that they're taking. So I don't know if that points you in the direction that you that were sort of going in. Yeah, that's what I was going to say is the elemental dosing of the supplement differs, depending on the form. So the for example, the amount of metallic lithium and lithium orate is different from the amount of metallic or elemental lithium and lithium carbonate. That's something that gets into conversions and it's something you could use like AI chat GPT to solve. And it's actually very complicated because they don't make it easy into studies. You know, if you're breaking down clinical studies on these things and you're converting, you know, rodent studies and the dosage that they use, you actually, AI is very helpful in converting it and you're saying, Hey, I'm using this form. How many milligrams of actual lithium or lithium orate and then compare it to this. And you could do that with any supplement, whether it's magnesium or zinc or yeah, yeah, I've done it. I've done it. I've used chat GPT for conversions. So helpful because you're right. They don't make it easy. And chat GPT for some of those that, you know, for some things, it's incredibly helpful. Yeah. All right. Let's see. Let's move on to, oh, you know what? Let's see. Let's go back to this one. I was diagnosed with small segment Barat's Asophagus. Could dissolve it all help with this? Also, I might try digestive, your digestive enzymes. Yeah, go ahead. What's the name of that small? It's called small segment Barat's Asophagus. And I do know a little bit about this, but I'm going to refrain because I don't want to say the wrong thing. So yeah, if you can pull it up. Interesting. Yeah. So this condition were a testinol type metaplasia characterized by salmon colored velvet-like lining extends less than three centimeters above the gastroesophagyled junction. It's a pre-malignant condition often caused by chronic longstanding gird, typical gird symptoms or heartburn. Okay. Yeah. To me, I mean, my gut pun intended reaction is zinc deficiency. I'd also chloride deficiency. I mean, I wish I knew this years ago how critical is, critical zinc is to make hydrochloric acid and also just salt chloride hydrochloric. You need salt. People with a lot of gut issues, I think, tend to be zinc deficient. And the cool thing about the zinc that I chose to offer with mytolife is it's bound to L-carnacine amino acid, which has been shown in clinical studies, to help prevent and even reverse peptic ulcers, bleeding ulcers, and support intestinal integrity because if the intestinal lining gets permeable, that's where a lot of issues begin. But also just not being able to make enough hydrochloric acid. Obviously, gut health is very complicated. You have, you know, dicharbonyt and it's required to neutralize acid after you're done digesting. Digesting, you need the minerals that I mentioned to even just make hydrochloric acid in the first place. It was obviously the microbiome influence. There's endotoxin. There's so many things, right? Curious to who your thoughts on this one? No, I agree. And I think like I'm someone who actually takes like a supplement to help with stomach acid because because I have seen sort of, yeah, I've just, I mean, if for me to like start diving into my story, it would be, that would take all day, but it is, it's super helpful. What comes to my mind is this person, you know, whether or not they have a history of PPI's too, I think, makes a huge difference. But I will say that I'm so glad that you, because that really destroys, I mean, long term, like you're gonna, you're gonna see such a decrease of like stomach acid production, really the opposite, you know, most people that I have like, gird or acid reflux, they have low stomach acid. And you know, a lot of people think that they have too much, but they really have too little. So, you know, when you have a long history of PPI use, that can just really wreck, just wreck you, you know, and coming back from that, I think a lot of people have a hard time. So I think something like zinc would be helpful. And I know for me personally, your zinc, carnazine product was a godsend for me because I had had like this massive stomach flu that I've got hit with maybe a year, a year and a half ago. And I used the zinc carnazine product to help repair my gut. And it really did, it really, really helped me a lot. And so, you know, whether it's upper GI or lower GI or a combination of both, I have a feeling that zinc is a major player or a deficient, I should say like one that's missing from a lot of people that have gut issues. Just my gut instinct too. Punny. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. And I should mention the probiotic that I have. I recently in the last couple of years added bacterial phases, which it's really interesting. There's only a couple companies I think Thorne just added it to their line. But it's a trademark product called pre-for pro. And it's essentially, it's kind of like a prebiotic, but it extremely low doses like we're talking 15 milligrams. It actually helps to break down bacteria that shouldn't be there. And then combine with these spore-based probiotics that actually can, they're essentially like influencer strains. They can influence the whole microbiome. And I've noticed a benefit if I'm consistent with that one. Key is being consistent with that. Yeah. Yeah. Flora form is your probiotic. And I have that here as well. And what's interesting about the pre-for pro is that that's what I give pearl. And for those who don't know, you know, I have two dogs. One has had, you know, it just has a long history of gut, like more like dysbiosis. And she has the pre-for pro in her probiotic. Yeah. That's made quite a difference for her. So yeah, it's hard because it's like to be able to say, you know, take this or do this or or whatever. I mean, we're giving our best guesses here, you know, for for people for sure. But it I again, and I'm sitting on the outside of the expert seat here. But what would I say is just, you know, intuitively, if it sounds like something that might be helpful, I don't think it will hurt. Maybe experimenting with something like adding adding a good probiotic in like that or, you know, trying zinc and seeing if it might, you know, which is kind of a no-brainer product for a lot of us anyway. It's made a huge difference in my life. I'm now taking your zinc with copper. But back then, I was taking the, yeah, the zinc carnaseen specifically because I was seeing so many digestive issues post post post, you know, crazy crazy. That was the craziest sickness I've ever had. It was like massive. It was like actually I think it was post food poisoning. I said, I think I said flu, but I think it was a food poisoning situation that really took me out. And so, yeah, use the, the carnazine, the zinc carnazine product to help me kind of rebuild and repair. Yeah, it shocks me that it was what it must have been 13, 14 years into my halterine, maybe 14 years that actually added in zinc, something crazy like that. I don't know how I survived. I mean, it would have changed my life if I started on it in the beginning. And obviously, like people focus heavily on zinc and forget the copper because there's that ratio. And, you know, while excess of either can cause issues back to balance in the right ratio, I went to an eight to one ratio with my zinc plus product. So it's 8x the zinc as the, so 16 milligrams of actual elemental zinc and two milligrams of actual elemental copper. And long term, I feel like that's a, that's a great ratio. And they, they're so, yeah, it's amazing, like thinking about all the supplements that the normal people are taking that aren't in this health field. And they might be taking a multimineral supplement. And I'm sure it's the wrong ratio. It's the wrong form. The doses are off. So it's, yeah, let's go on and on. And I'm glad that you just mentioned copper. And also just like, you know, well, I'm going to ask you this question. But I think I already know what you're going to say, which is there was a question that came in that said, do you believe, do you believe that we're all low in copper? And do you believe at all about, or do you still believe that iron toxicity exists anymore? And so, yeah. I laugh. I laugh. That's got, we have animals. Both of us have animals at this point in the conversation. We've got animals on both of our laps. Yes, I've done a few shows on this. That's a good question. Because a lot of people that are on social media, like on YouTube, they're still, you know, they still think that I subscribe to that philosophy of being anti certain supplements. And everybody has iron iron, iron dysregulation or everybody has iron overload. And I've since adopted a more balanced perspective on this. I think it's individual. But if I had to say, at a large scale iron deficiency with or without anemia, usually without is much more common in the population worldwide than iron dysregulation slash iron overload. In my opinion, from all the, I spent two years roughly deep diving on this topic after I got out of the, I say the cult or that that we, we, right. Yeah. And, and it's a very complicated topic. I mean, they make great points, but back to the extremism, it's not, it's not all that, you know, only that way. It's not, you know, there's, it's different for everybody, different, depending on their exposures, their genetics. What shocked me is when I donated blood twice. Is the first time I felt great, which I've been public about, I felt like a superhero. Second time I felt very drained and it took me months to recover, maybe even years. Maybe I'm still recovering. But what I learned is that there's not just iron deficiency anemia, which is what they all say. There's stages to it. And I've done, I mentioned this in a recent podcast. I've done several posts on it. Robert Crickton, what some people call the Dean of Iron Biology on Planet Earth. He's talked about in his book, like a college textbook on iron that there's, it's not until basically the fourth stage of iron deficiency, where your four stages deep, where it's classified as anemia. What that means in English is you can still go and donate blood in the first several stages and you'll be accepted. Because they do the finger prick when you go and give blood and make sure your hemoglobin is high enough and all the basic markers. But your hemoglobin could be good and you could still be, you could still have deficient bone marrow iron stores. And again, this goes into a whole complex topic of is serum ferritin and accurate reflection of bone marrow iron stores. Objective answer is yes it is. Defendatively yes it is. Can it be artificially or could it be inflated with inflammation? Yes, it can be. Is everybody chronic inflame? No. So it's very complicated. And obviously there's all the cofactors that I mentioned. So for someone that's iron deficient, you know, maybe they have single digit ferritin or below 20, whatever it is below 30, even below 100 could be low for some people. I tend to hover around the 70. And I feel generally okay. Maybe I'd feel better if I had more. But obviously, a lysine we mentioned, there's B12, there's B6, there's copper. What else? I mean, there's other, there's other things that are related to iron. The vitamin A. The vitamin A is huge. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a massive topic. And you know, it's, I mean, that's why you've done several episodes on it. That's why there's, I mean, it's endless, you know, it's endless. But I think nuance is important. There's just to kind of wrap with this one. It's, it's impossible to you say like a blanket statement, which, you know, like, oh, everybody's, you know, iron toxic or everybody's iron deficient. It's so, so individual at this point. And you do, to your point earlier, you mentioned something about going off of symptoms. I mean, sometimes you really do have to go off your symptoms because you could have ferritin of 25 and feel amazing. And you can have a ferritin of 25 and feel ridiculous. And you can't get out of bed. So, you know, it is. And that might be frustrating for people to hear that, you know, because it's like, well, what do we know? How do we bully discernment intuition, dig a little deep within your own, you know, your own self, your own history. Look at other things. I think look at other, you know, other, other tests that might be able to, you know, point you like in the direction of, oh, maybe this is something to pay attention to or this is related to iron. Right? I mean, I'm sure you probably agree, but it's just so difficult to just give a like one-size-fits-all statement because there's not one. Yeah. Yeah. Being, you know, tune into your body and are, like you said, are you fatigued or you tired all the time? And it could get complex because you could be tired all the time because you're in a marriage or a relationship you shouldn't be in or you're in a house place you shouldn't be in. You know, that could be the primary cause. And it often is. And it's not until they get out of that environment or make a tough decision to move the breakup, even cutting off a friendship, you know, energy vampires, whatever it is, then the clarity can come. But I think when somebody's in that cloud, what we say is frustrating because it is going to be more difficult without tests to figure out what's really going on. That's such a good point. That's another, that's a whole other episode. But yeah, it's such a good point because I think when you're in it, and not to stay here for too long. But I think when you're in whatever circumstance that you're in and say, really, there is something else, you know, you could, I think it is easier. And friends, I really want you to hear what Matt just said. And then I'm going to piggyback off of it right now. I think it's easier to point to, you know, well, there must be something diagnostic wise. Like there's got to be something on my blood work that shows why I feel this way. There's got to be, but sometimes it really is something in your life. Sometimes it really is something else. And those things are harder to look at. It's often the place you don't want to look, the corner of the room, you don't want to look. That's usually where the answer is. So if there's something that's coming up for you, like that little nong, like, you know what, maybe there is something else that's not related, or you know, maybe my iron is low, or maybe I'm chronically fatigued because of this or that and the other. And it's not to like say that this stuff isn't real because it's it is, you know, whatever you're experiencing in the simple, the symptoms that you have or the ways that you're struggling, that is 100% real. Like this is not about gaslighting anybody. But a lot of times it's really about adjusting your lifestyle, whatever that means for you. And that in itself could correct the imbalance without even adding anything into your life. Sometimes it's about removal and not addition, you know, true. And I will add not to complicate it further. Sometimes adding supplements, like what I found personally in the past in different situations is filling these deficiencies or even just increasing your intake of specific things, whether it's magnesium, zinc, even lithium, whatever it is, that can help you look in that corner that you don't want to look at you for depending on the person. Yeah. Great point though. That's a great point. Yeah, because sometimes we really are clouded and we need, you know, there's a deficiency there. to some degree that's where we don't have the vision that we need, or maybe we have the vision, but we don't have the courage. So it's also interconnected. You know what I mean? And you and I have had this conversation so much off air, but it's like, what comes first? The emotional health or the physical health? It's both. It's all of it. It's all of it. But we do need to address the physical, you know, as well. I mean, people who say, what's all emotional or it's all mental and, you know, the physical just doesn't matter. That's not true either. You know, like it's the whole pie. And so it's important to look in all corners, you know, and that's not easy to do, especially when people have been struggling for a long time. They just want to feel better. And I get that. I mean, in a lot of ways, I've been that. So I have, I have a lot empathy for sure. Yeah. All right. Let's land the plane and do just like maybe let's pick two more here. And I'm sorry again, you guys, if we did not get to your questions, it's only because time and we without telling you too much detail, we've spent a long time, and we spent a long time together today. Not I've enjoyed every second of it. It's fun. It's fun. And lava is, you know, a part of it now and my dog Tilly's on my lap. And everybody's just here. It's like a family affair. How about this? Let's see. How soon after tendon surgery, would you start, would you suggest to start something like disabital? I would say right away. I mean, it's not, it's not going to inhibit, to my knowledge, I've never heard any, any stories from people that inhibit healing or slows it. Like I said, it's not going to over, you know, it's not going to start dissolving your healthy tissue or anything like that. It's just working on the excess fiber in, so the fiber that you don't need. But yeah, if it was me, I would start on it right away. I mean, maybe you could start low dose, like, you know, one every morning and then, you know, maybe month to two every morning, see how you feel, just kind of watch, watch your recovery from there. I always tell people with all the supplements and supplements in general, if you're not getting the results that you want, generally increase the dose. I mean, this is particularly true for melatonin, which, you know, if someone's feeling groggy from it or they don't feel good the next morning after taking it, counterintuitively take more. And maybe if you feel, you know, double it a few times, if you still feel worse, the next few times, then yeah, maybe melatonin is not for you or maybe you need a super microdose and you're in the rare population of people like that. But that's, I mean, it's a lot more affordable than getting a ton of blood work and getting lost in that. Yeah. So just experiment with dosing. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So back to dissolve it all. Yeah. I mean, just start slow, see how you feel. Yeah. It's, I mean, I know that there are exceptions and there are some things that you need to be mindful of, but it seems like a pretty overall pretty safe thing to introduce. Post surgery. Bye, love. Yeah. Yeah. It was biting me. Oh, my goodness. He's like, you've been in this chair for a long time today. Why don't we get a leave? Okay. Let's see. Let's do one more. A good dose, what for living in mold? I have stacked my life for four years and now I know the cause of my chronic fatigue. I feel like this is kind of a, it's a good place to land because I feel like this kind of is an all-encompassor type of a question and there might be some repeat, but I thought that was a good one because mold is such a topic and we can also point them into the direction of your recent episodes regarding this. Yeah. Absolutely. I mean, quick answer, see what protocol, but I would say in sephalon for sure, that's one of my really unique supplements. It's like a, I'm like a new tropic brain booster because we know that these mycotoxins, these compounds that the mold, the fungus creates are neuroinflammatory. So Ginkgo Baloba that I have in there, the phosphatidyl serine from sunflower, the LGX extract that reduces lipid proxidation because that's a lot of the, a lot of the neuroinflammation no matter what it is, causes the oxidation of fats and we know that fats make up the structure of our cell and mitochondrial membranes. And so obviously vitamin E, getting in there, vitamin C as well, vitamin C for the water soluble components of the cell, vitamin E for the fat soluble components of the cell, but then adding in these extra things like in sephalon with those three ingredients, anything that pretty much reduces lipid proxidation. Vitamin E is the most foundational one for brain inflammation. Melatonin, there's just loads and loads and loads of research on how it reduces lipid proxidation and protects the brain from a variety of salts, even glyphosate. There's been interesting research on melatonin protecting from glyphosate. Magnesium obviously is a super brain protector, but as far as overall powder, high dose zeolite really helped me. I feel like when I was living in mold for several years without knowing it. So I was doing 30 grams a day. I've been on a break for a little bit, but it's generally something you don't have to take a break from. I mean, you don't have to take six scoops or 30 grams a day like I do of the zeolite labs, but even just five grams a day, 10 grams a day, whatever it is, whatever is financially sustainable for you. That selective binder that does bind to mycotoxins as well as histamine and heavy metals, all these things, but mycotoxins activated charcoal like the poor man's mycotoxin binder that works. It's just more complicated because you have to take it on an epistemic boosting NAD with a nice cinamide that's called my NAD power product. That really helps a lot of people with mold illness or mold exposure deal with fatigue, symptoms. So all the stuff I'm talking about with supporting mitochondrial health can help with that. If you want to get into the peptides, the SS31, the MOTC combo for the mitochondria, that's very advanced. That could help in combination with the mytolife supplements. Obviously, Sheila G, I didn't really talk about that much in this episode, but that, I mean, if I ever had to pick one, that's always what I say. That is my foundational supplement to take because it's a combination of all the minerals macromenorals and trace minerals with folvic acid. And the folic and heumic acid basically deliver it into the cell. And that's been shown to have tremendous effects on the brain, protect the brain, in Ayurvedic, they called it a panacea and a lot of the Ayurvedic texts. They actually said it can extend lifespan from 100 to 1000 years, which is, this sounds like just very tail, right? Depending on the amount consumed. But I personally take a gram a day, I bathed in it. Actually, might even start with that in the bathtub because it goes really well with magnesium. You have to basically get the Sheila G powder. I guess you could dissolve my Sheila G tablets, but generally powder in the bathtub. I don't know anyone else has done that. Plus, how many tablets would you need for a bathtub? That might be expensive, right? It's so concentrated, but I don't think you'd eat much. Like 50. Right. Maybe a whole tray. Maybe a sleeve. Maybe a sleeve herb. No, just, you know, the cautious, or be cautious friends, we're just playing around. One thing though, I did realize with baths is if you have the water too hot, you essentially sweat and you'll be releasing stuff like detox. But if you keep it warm and not hot, like I know a lot of women like super hot baths, if you keep it warm, then you could actually absorb things through the skin. It's just something that I've been kind of contemplating in my bathtub recently. I never did scolding hot bath tubs, you know, bath sessions, but something to consider. So it is. And honestly, like I love hot showers. Like I'm somebody who I really, even in the summer, like I'm the one who's taking the hot shower, but hot baths, they can be helpful, but also it really depends on the person. Because I noticed that when I've taken hot baths before, I actually feel worse after, and you have to be careful with hydration and your mineral status, kind of like going into a sauna when you're not equipped from a mineral standpoint. You know, you can kind of like get that, quote unquote, reaction where your body's just like, no, whoa, whoa, whoa, like I'm a little dehydrated here, you know, and it can raise your heart rate and all that kind of stuff. So I feel like medium. like a medium temperature work swell, I think. - Yeah, little side note too. I have a local friend Benny. They've raised several children on the Mydolife supplements, which is cool to see. And I recently got him into sauna 'cause he was unable to sweat, like he never sweat. So just a little side note for this whole show that there are like almost free diagnostics that you can use to tell like where to start with your health. One of them, if you cannot sweat, or you sweat very rarely or never at all, that is a really, really bad thing and that was him. So when I got him on the Therasaj sauna, which is to me, like the most affordable effective tent sauna, that's what I started with in 2010 off Craigslist used. If you don't have the money or space to do like a wooden box style, carbon emitter sauna, then just the tent style works. Now it would sit completely in it with my head and it and everything on a towel. But he started to sweat finally and he said he doesn't enjoy it, but he feels so much better being consistent with it. So that could be like a super low-hanging fruit if someone, you know, light bulb goes off. Oh, yeah, he's right, I never sweat. That is like to me, one of the top places to start. And I noticed too, when I'm fighting an infection, or just not feeling well, and I go in my wood burning barrel sauna outside, if it takes me longer to sweat, that is telling me information that I'm not where I usually am with my health. - I've had that experience a lot. I've actually had that experience more often that I would like to say. And I've taken a long break from sauna just for, just because that's what I'm currently doing. You know, again, we're not here to talk about me. But in the past, and a lot of times when I've started the protocol again, like the sauna protocol, I would not sweat at first. It would take me several sessions, which would be such an indicator for me as to like what was going on in my body, which is helpful because again, it's not about fear, it's about information, like you said. And that can be a really helpful piece. So yeah, that's awesome that you brought that up. - Yeah, yeah. And we sweat out more than just sodium potassium too, people don't know, magnesium zinc. - Oh, magnesium is a big one. - Yep. So that can make people worse, right? To your point of, yeah. - Yeah. Well, my friend, I feel like we, and again, I apologize to those of you who sent in questions and we didn't get to it, which means we're just gonna have to do this. - I have to do another one. (laughing) I'll walk out another half day. - Oh my goodness. We don't have the time to share with our friends how our day has gone today. But, you know what, that's life and reality. And I laugh as I sit here with one dog in my hand and you've got lava and we've had tech issues and we've had lighting issues and we've had so many things go down, as I was saying, I promise this is not my first day. And thank God that I know you for real, like in real life, quote unquote, because we've just laughed halfway through it. But I think that sometimes those are the best conversations because, you know, this has been in so many ways, very organic and I knew it would be. And I just, you know, as we close, I just wanna say that, you know, your dedication to health and research, it's really made such an impact in my life. And I probably said that in the past episode that we did, but that still stands and even more so. And as, you know, I've gotten to know you through the years, I have even more respect for how passionate you are about how true you stay to yourself through this process, despite feedback or pushback or hate. And I've watched you walk through that for years. And it's not easy and it doesn't matter how much like thick skin we have. I mean, that stuff is not easy to deal with. And so just for me to you, this has been so fun, you know, trouble and all laughter and all which is great, you know, just the fact that we've laughed halfway through this. But I just appreciate everything that you've done, everything that you're doing and that you will continue to do. And I have just so much respect for, yeah, just your time when it comes to how much you've put into this. And really just trying to make people's lives better, you know, and you've obviously been called to this. And so, yeah, I just thank you, you know, from one front to another, like thank you for doing what you're doing and for continuing to do it, even with all the roadblocks that have, you know, kind of appeared in front of you. So really, thank you and thank you so much for coming back on the show. It's been so fun. Well, thank you very much. And I appreciate your dedication to it as well. I think people in our shoes, the challenge is not over stretching and giving too much, you know, because we tend to, that tends to be our type. So we're more prone to burn out, but I really appreciate you saying that. And yeah, it's been up and down with, I'd say, I lost the spark to research anything new for a couple of years there. And I recently gained it back, you know, not just with looking into things like peptides and mold illness, but just overall being interested in researching human health again, which to me is a sign that I'm getting healthier and I'm kind of coming out of a slump and chronic stress or burn out of whatever you want to call it. So, yeah, it's, we're all, you know, whether your favorite influencer offline is pretending like everything is perfect. Everybody is going through something different, different types of stress and we could all use, use support. And yeah, grateful that we found each other and grateful that the listeners found this show and hopefully this helps many people. Yeah, no, it absolutely will. There's just no doubt in my mind. I can probably, I usually ask where we've looking find you, but I actually can probably provide the answer for people. And if you have anything to add, you guys, I'm going to list all the ways that you can find, Matt and Mydolife in the show notes. Things are always there for you. I try to be as extensive as possible. But you're going to be able to find the Mydolife website. You're going to be able to find his social media links in the website. You know, obviously YouTube Mydolife Radio, the podcast, that will all be in there for you. And I have personally been an affiliate for Mydolife. Again, I use the brand. I talk about the brand. I believe in the brand. So I've been an affiliate for years now. And so there will be a listener discount code for you in the show notes as well. I believe it's been as the 15. But that will all be there as well. If there's anything else that you want to add, feel free. But I feel like I covered it. Did I cover it? You covered it. Well, thank you so much. Yeah, and I'm working on the shower filter coming back to you for the people that follow me closely. Yeah, people around you. Yeah. They're around you. That's the magnesium. The magnesium was out for a while. I think that'll be in a week or two. Yeah. But the chill pill I'm really excited about that's going to be a four or five. I think a five ingredient blend. I think it's going to be the most complex. I'll just drop it now. It's going to be called tranquil mind. Ooh. And I'm super excited for that one. Because that is, I could just see everybody needs a chill pill. So my hope will provide it. Well, you heard it here first, my friends. Looks like I'm going to be adding another supplement to my regimen. That's for sure. That's exciting. That's exciting. Okay, you guys. Well, again, all of this information will be in the podcast. Both Matt and I appreciate you so much for listening. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to reach out to either one of the one of us. We will be happy to point you in the right direction and anything you need. Just let us know. We're both active on social media and then also just, you know, all the ways that you can get in touch, even email. My friend, I appreciate you. I give you the biggest hug from across the screen. Thank you so much for coming on and we will have to do it again soon. Let's definitely do it again soon. Thanks for that, Sarah. I had a blast. I had a blast too. Well, I hope you guys learned a lot from that. I'm constantly inundated with messages on my Instagram about how to use different supplements and I can not keep up with all the messages that I get. People asking, you know, what to take, how to take it, how much it's just nonstop. So I generally only get to one or two questions on Instagram every day and I try to remember to post them publicly so that other people can learn. But I think I shared some really interesting information, particularly in this show about nicotinamide, also known as niacinamide. A lot of health experts like David Wolf don't even know that that's the same exact compound. But it's anti-fibrotic. It's an antioxidant. It's really underrated supplement and in the future, I will likely combine that form of vitamin B3 with other things and probably same with lithium. I am looking to constantly refine my supplement company, myto life and just make it so that people don't have to take as many capsules, ideally. There's a lot of people don't like taking dozens of capsules a day. I don't mind it, especially with a meal. It doesn't affect my gut in any way. It's only when you take maybe a couple dozen on an empty stomach. Like I've seen my friend David do down in San Diego, and that could cause some issues if you don't have food in your belly for some people. My goal overall with me being on Instagram, Facebook, Apple, podcast, YouTube, my whole online presence is to make health accessible for people, both financially and just from a digestible point of view. I listened to a lot of these health experts and people like Chris Masterjohn, great information, but it's just really complicated. And I like to try to break things down the best that I can. And I think I succeeded in that show with Vanessa. Let me know, let us know your feedback. I'm really curious to hear that. But big thanks to Vanessa for having me on. I love being on her show. Favorite show I've actually been on when she asks great questions, very thoughtful and just appreciate all the work that she's doing over there. So definitely give her a follow, social media and her show. Highly recommend it. If you wanna check out my CLF protocol and writing, you can go to matheifenblackburn.com. And I'm gonna totally revamp the website, especially that page soon, because it's very hard to read, it's small text. Pictures could be better. So stay tuned in the next couple of weeks to the next months and that CLF protocol page will be totally revamped and the entire website, in fact. If you click on the shop tab, you can see all of my recommended products. These are supplements and devices and tools that I've found over the last 16 years that have helped me out. One of the more recent products that I added up there and some of my friends, the impobinesa jokes with me about it, is the cleaning robot. That thing has seriously been changing my life and the link that I have up there, I don't get monetary commission. It's just paid for accessories like the vacuum bags and that works for me. But it actually acts as an error filtration system as it's vacuuming the floor and mopping, by the way. It's actually cleaning the air, so dust that's floating around the air and other particulates that's sucking it in and filtering it. This is like a Rumba on steroids and I'm at my cab in the loan. I can't keep up with cleaning and I don't know if it's 'cause I'm a Virgo but I just like a clean environment. So I've been running that thing every single day and it's absolutely changed my life. The cats aren't scared of it, like they were the Rumba, it doesn't bump into things like the Rumba. It is a next level cleaner for your floor. Total game changer saves a ton of time and that's the Matic robot. It's on my website under cleaning robot if you wanna see it there. And then my brand is Mydolife. You can find that at mydolife.co. Just got the oyster back in stock. A lot of people were missing that product. It's called the Descicated Oyster. And we actually have a really unique lab report there if you scroll down, click Lab Reports, click on one of the four documents there. A lot of websites don't even have one by the way. One of the four documents there called Full Nutritional Analysis. Full amino acid breakdown. And then we actually get into the fatty acids as well, which I'm not aware of any other oyster product that's offering that level of detail. It goes further, we're showing the B-Vitamin content, the mineral content, which it's obviously less than an isolated supplement. It's a whole food supplement, so it's all micro amounts. But for certain people, all it takes is micro amounts, especially the sensitive folks out there that have reactions easily to supplements they generally are doing well with the whole food supplements, with micro dosing isolated supplements. But that is back, so check that out. Don't have many whole food supplements on my website. The B-fliver from New Zealand up there, the Elkveil Vanantler, the Potency, which is gonna be discontinued. That's the oyster plus the muscle. And the Sheila G out, consider a whole food supplement. By the way, recently I received a message that a combination of the Elkveil Vanantler and the Sheila G, and this wasn't just some random person, this was my first roommate, my only roommate. The only time I had roommates get an apartment complex, him and his wife were trying to get pregnant for quite a while, and he started taking the Elkveil Vanant and the Sheila G, and she got pregnant. So that combination is very powerful. Even if someone's not trying to, you know, man or woman just wanna increase your hormonal balance or hormonal output, those two are really powerful to take together. And then you start adding in things like melatonin, and zinc and copper, and the vitamin K2 and the vitamin E. And all of it just helps to synergize together and you get even better, bigger benefits with that. So that is all for today. I hope that all of you with the current wild world events that are happening, we're getting pulled into yet another war. A lot of people feel tricked and just a really sad and disappointing time for a lot of people. So be sure to keep your stress levels down, keep your magnesium up, lithium could be really helpful in these times. And in the next month or so, I am going to release that chill pill. So I feel like I'm a month late now with this, Iran is real situation, but that will be available soon. Supposedly the war's gonna go into September, I hear. So I have time to release that product and hopefully help chill some people out, including myself, just an intense time. So be sure to get outside, get sunshine, move your body, all that foundational stuff and then do the foundational supplements and you'll be a lot more resilient to stress both in your personal life and just everything going on in this crazy world. So until next time, stay super charged. (upbeat music) (upbeat music)