International Arrests w/ Sabbatical Tommy | You Be Trippin' with Ari Shaffir
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Tommy Sabbatical, a traveler and YouTube content creator, recounts a harrowing experience while visiting a Rohingya refugee camp in northern Indonesia. He and his partner were initially welcomed, but soon faced escalating security concerns when Indonesian authorities questioned his presence and activities. The situation escalated when he was detained by police and later by a secret service unit, who interrogated him extensively about his visit, citing national security concerns and fears of diplomatic embarrassment. Despite his intentions being peaceful and journalistic, he was pressured to pay $2,000 to local officials to end the standoff, illustrating the complex and often opaque power structures in Indonesia. The episode also highlights the precarious nature of travel in politically sensitive regions, where even basic exploration can lead to significant danger. Tommy emphasizes that while Indonesia is a beautiful and culturally rich country, certain areas—especially refugee camps—are off-limits due to strict rules and historical resistance. His story underscores the importance of awareness, preparation, and respect for local laws when traveling abroad. The narrative serves as both a cautionary tale and a testament to the dedication of travelers seeking authentic global experiences. Meanwhile, the host promotes a storytelling show, "The End," available for $24.99 for all seven episodes during a limited pre-sale, and shares travel tips, including the importance of language learning and cultural sensitivity.
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And then America's still using that. Yeah. They're like, this fucking kid, Mrs. Dinner, it's Syria. We got to go in there and bomb the shit up for 30 years. Yeah. Yeah. You just need an excuse. And we just need an excuse. It's important. Welcome to You Be Trippin' Everybody, it's a travel podcast. Every week, almost every week, I go to a different place with a new guest. Occasionally, well, I will tell you, it's the only podcast that stands staunchly in support of, if you have internment camps. Make them camps. Don't make them facilities. You kind of take away their, you know, it's like, you want to be part of like a camp culture if you're a refugee in an internment. You put them in a building, it's like, eh, we didn't even get that experience. So if you're going to make a refugee camp, make sure to make it tent driven. You'll be trippin' stands by that. Today's guest is Tommy sabbatical. What's your last name? Do not have one. Yeah, I don't have the last name. Oh, sabbatical. Okay. Um, a traveler himself and we're going to do a theme this week. You can find his stuff on YouTube. Um, fucking great channel, by the way. Stuff's out there. It's fucking awesome. sabbatical, Tommy. No last name. That's smart. Yeah. Just dropped it. I was lookin' over the coffee shop for you. I'm like, what? This is fucking, dude. She was beard now and never find it. I was lookin' for you guys. I went behind one guy, go, Tommy. Tommy. Tommy. Tommy. And then he was like, nope. Yeah. Theme one. Yeah. Yeah. What are we talking about? Well, um, I did not choose this path, exactly, but um, you're getting arrested abroad. I mean, you just almost canceled this. That is true. Yeah. That is true. We've been talking about this and I sent out a message just in case like, are you, uh, got this weird situation going on in Indonesia and just in case, is there any other time we could do this podcast? And I'm like, no, but what's going on? I'm like, I might be arrested. Let me, hold on. Let me work it out. Yeah. Yeah. We did work it out. We did work it out. Um. Yeah. What happened there? So yeah. This is something that people deal with with travel where it's like the, the, what we're just talking about like is Kusko say if we're it's like the danger from crime and then the danger from the, some of the, you know, the powers. Yeah. I would say those are like the two main things you would worry about traveling abroad. I don't usually like to tell people this, especially Americans because they think the whole world is super dangerous and it's usually not, but sometimes it is sometimes it is you, uh, if you do stupid crazy shit like I do, uh, I can't be. Yeah. So, um, yeah, whenever they're like, I mean, you know, if you're as long as you're not like a dissident in China, you should be fine. Like, what if you speak out against the government and like, oh, what? No. Don't do that. Yeah, yeah. You just, this is like a few guidelines. You got to follow. Um, you know, don't go near a border in Russia. Uh, really don't, uh, go to refugee camp in Indonesia, but start with that once you were just there. Right. Cause I didn't know any of this. Right. So what happy was, you know, I had a bit of a stressful year last year and trying to take it easy. Yeah. And the perfect place for that, I thought was Bali. Yeah. It's true. Yeah. Just booked the flight over there. Bali is wonderful. And there's a lot of drunk Australians running around, but it's, uh, they get a little reckless over there. But, you know, it's got some nice beaches, you can get like a chill hotel for like $20 a night. Yeah. Lovely people. It's got great culture. And I was having a great time. But, um, not everyone knows this. Bali is not a country. There's more to it. It's, uh, a whole country of 17,000 islands called Indonesia. And, um, so I decided to go traveling across the whole country from Bali onwards or starting somewhere else. So it would be a lot. Some of the Middle East. Yeah. And then I take like a boat over here, it's called Java, the main island. Okay. And eventually I made my way all the way up to like the furthest point for this northern, like Northwest Point. And these, that's a different color, um, yeah, that's, oh, the Ottomans are their own. Yeah. Yeah. That shit's actually crazy. There's like one island there with people that have never been contacted. They don't contact us. Yeah. They just kill everybody that goes. You know, that story, that, uh, missionary they went. Yeah. And like, Jesus will guide my, God, my hand to get these people back to Christ. He met Jesus. Ah. They speared them. Yeah. He didn't make it back. I mean, getting speared is like what an old school way to do it. And then like, as it's like, whoa, I wonder what the realization is, like one like fuck that hurts. Right. To like, um, my God did not, oh, I planned this all wrong. Right. Also, they were right. I should not have been here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They really told me. Damn it. And sometimes they're like, up to date, sometimes not. Yeah. Is it safe to go to the, um, and I, I'm going to guess no, I'm going to guess no. Let's find out. This is so fun. I'm going to tell you what. What? What? What? No. Come on. Come on. What's the unconscious? What? I mean, this is why he went totally safe, including solo female travelers. What? You're failing again. Oh, God. Sometimes it fails so bad. Who though I thought you fixed it? I think there's another end of an island. There's another one, right? Probably the one they're referring to. The bad one is, uh, North Sentinel Island. That's what that, uh, in there. Yeah. It's one of the endaments. Okay. And that's where you got killed? Yeah. Okay. Is it? That's the spot to go. You want to commit suicide. North Sentinel Island? Yeah. You know, they didn't name it. No. They didn't. It's pretty bad as name though. It is pretty bad as. Okay. Here we go, AI. Let's go. Uh, North Sentinel Island remains off limits to outsiders to protect the sentinelese. Right. With the history of lethal resistance to intrusions. That's one way to put it. A lethal resistance. Enforced by Indian law to prevent disease outbreaks that couldn't danger the tribe. I mean, that would be the way to take over. Just go there with one fucking China, just cough in China, man, yeah, set him free on there and test. Yeah. And then just cool. Nobody's left. Yeah. Nobody's left. We gave up one fucking Chinese guy. And now nobody's left. Right. Doesn't say it's unsafe. You can't go. So maybe that's what the guy read. Yeah. Uh, okay. So you're, you're, you're a Bali trying to chill, which is a nice place to chill hot checks. Yeah. That's too many, too many party in Australians. Yeah. Have you been? Yeah. I was there a couple times. Yeah. All of those things are true. I'm going to make a list of questions for you that I would like to know because you're a good traveler. The first one. We'll get to it later. The first one is, uh, who's worse than a hostel, Germans or Australians. Um, but go ahead, but we'll get back to it. I can just going to make these lists while I'm, while I'm, while we're doing this. Yeah, fair enough. Okay. So, uh, wait, am I answering that question? No, we're going to wait. Let's go to, let's go to there. We're going to get to all of these later. So, uh, okay, back to Indonesia. So, um, I worked my way up to, uh, this place called Ache. It's like the far western part of Indonesia. Okay. Passing by down there. Yeah. Okay. And, um, this region is kind of interesting because it's like, uh, you know, there's a lot of
Like they have Sharia law, you know, like one of the best laws, yeah, one of the most underrated laws. Sharia laws. It's it's talked about. Yeah. Yeah, you're really experienced. Rarely experienced. Yeah, it has its upsides, you know, not a lot of theft, you know, they lose their hands if they do that. Yeah. Downsides, they can you if you're gay. So that's Sharia law. That's Sharia law. Yeah, you can't cheat on your wife also. But you cannot. Exactly. No. That's surprising. Yeah. To be honest, that's surprising. Yeah. You think they'd be like, eh, boys and we boys. Yeah, you could probably like bribe somebody to get away with it. But that's also a thing in Indonesia and also very relevant to what happened to me. Okay. Because I'm just going through that that area of Indonesia and I do make YouTube videos. So I'm trying to like show off the province. Show what's going on. Subbatical Tommy on YouTube. Yeah. Just a bad. Oh, really? Oh, yeah, at sabbatical Tommy. And so I'm going along and and also I it's very important that I stayed it this way, by the way. I'm traveling with a partner a month and she found out that there is a refugee camp for these people called the brohinga originally from Myanmar, but they look kind of like Indians and their Muslim. So Myanmar was like, get out of the country. A little genocide going on. Yeah, yeah. And then they took these boats down to Indonesia, which is a wild journey, by the way, if you look at the map here. It's like going from here, all with out here. And so they show up in Indonesia is like, yeah, we don't actually want you here either. And they stick them in a refugee camp. So wait, they just didn't want them. Although I got to get this place in a map. I got to see where this is. Yeah. It's the far northern type of Indonesia. Like up here. Yeah. Wow. Wow. I mean, nobody goes there. Not really. Yeah. Not like the most recommended tourist destination. Yeah. Kilometer, not monument. Yeah. I don't know. That's like, they do that as the starting point of Indonesia. Interesting. Yeah. Okay. It's falling apart. I went there. Really? I almost fell off that like crane thing in the background right there. Yeah. Yeah. Really? Yeah. They don't upkeep it. When you see these things, you're like, I heard about this. You're like, yeah, fuck it. That's a good reason to go. Yeah. That's how I generally travel. I just got Google maps. I'm like, that looks pretty wild. Let me go check that shit out. It is pretty fun. Just to get a dot or like something like that on the map. And then you go, oh, I don't know. It's marked like this. Punkong Guru and Guru. Yeah. I don't know if you went there. Yeah. If it's got some interesting pictures, I'm like, yeah, what's going on? Okay. So go ahead. So you're up there. And you, you heard about, you heard about them or you had already heard about them. Yeah. And like legally, I really have to say, my partner told me that there's this refugee camp. So we decided to stop by. Okay. Just talked to some people. I didn't think this was a big deal. Yeah. But I could be very nice. Sometimes we show up. We talk to the people. They're pretty nice. They're just explaining the situation. Who's the people? The Rohingya. So this minority group from the M.R. So you're talking to them? Yeah. You can just walk in. Yeah. There was like one kind of like immigration police there. And we asked him first, like, okay, if you just walk in and talk to these people and they're like, yeah, it's okay. You know, I'm not sure if you could like film, but you can go and talk to them. So we do that. Just talking to the people, explaining their situation. It's kind of sad. Made like a promise to come back. I was going to like bring some stuff and everything. Well, supplies. Yeah. Yeah. Just like some stuff for the kids, like some toys, notebooks, stuff like that. Hi, everybody. Orange figure breaking into his episode. Let you know a little bit about the guest. Subbatical Tommy. Dude, this guy fucking rules. This guy fucking rules. He's so, he's the best. He's like a real traveling. He just seeks danger. legitimately. Uh, you know, I don't like sharing text message, but let me tell you. I text her about them. I asked them, uh, when you put this up, sped it in. Um, he just seeks out danger. It's crazy. Missing her. Uh, so your message, uh, again, because it was about to fly to Dubai when she kicked off. I might still find a way to get. Well, that to me, that's like, well, now I can't. I don't know what's going on in Dubai. I haven't read the news. I don't really know. I catch whiffs. I thought it was your rock. Did it everywhere? But, um, at that point, if you say shit kicks off, to me, that's like, okay, great. So then we're done with that idea. Shit's kicking off. Hey, is there anything kicking off there? That party's like, no shit. Oh, well, then let's look for another place. Not sabbatical. I was about to fly to Dubai when she kicked off. I might still find a way over or just stay in Thailand. I'll leave the rest out. Um, and then I was like, wait, Dubai. He goes, I thought it was just, what did I say? Dubai hard to get to now because of your rod. It seems like they wouldn't care. I feel like Dubai looks at Iran the way we look at Canada. He's not doing it. Iran is launching Mrs. Dubai to what? They closed the airspace of the whole region, pretty trippy to see it becoming an adventure, traveled destination destination. I go, well, that's wild. I mean, that's actually a hard way to travel when you don't look at the people of danger when you go look at the skies. It goes, yeah, although I'm fucked up enough mentally to look in the situation and think it's not as bad as you can when I was there last October. They go fly there next month. I think I was crazy. Guys, check out everything he does. He's on YouTube at YouTube.com/@SabbaticalTommy. Cool backdrop. I'm doing it in cinematic. Um, and also, um, he's on Instagram, but his greatest videos are on YouTube. I mean, definitely subscribe to that one. Almost more than here, be tripping. Go over to sabbaticaltommy right now. I just subscribe. And also he's on sabbatical.tommy on Instagram. Instagram.com/@Sabbatical.tommy. Doing his videos, fucking nuts. They're all up there. He's got the one that we talked about on this later about Russia. I'm not gonna spoil it for you. Um, that's it guys. Let's get back to the episode and check them out. Me, all I got is one thing. I want you to buy the end. It's a pre sale going on right now, the whole season to 24.99. That ends April 16th on the show premieres. I'm so excited for you guys to see it. You know, or why you get an individual episode with six bucks, but six, 12, eight, and twice. Yeah. What are you gonna get? We need and, and what I'm, two, two of mine. I do two stories. So two of mine. That's, that's 12. Spend another 12 and get five more episodes. I would have to do it. But there's a link right now. We're going to rshuffear.com for that. And also, um, go to rshuffear.com or the creek in the cave. Um, to get tickets to the screener. You're doing an Austin on April 19th. Uh, if you're going to buy it by the season, and you could be at Austin, maybe wait. Or you can watch it again. This is shit you can watch over and over and over again. Um, okay. That's it. Let's get back to the episode. Oh, so get tickets to that show. April 19th. I know that's a five or six of five. By the time this comes out, it will be up there. All are rshuffear.com. Also, get at the end and subscribe. We'll be watching. Listen, thank you very much everybody. Let's get back to symmetrical. And, um, at some point after like, I don't know, maybe 15 minutes, the immigration police comes up and it's like, actually, maybe you shouldn't be here. So, uh, you need like a journalist pass and all this, you think he's watching or you think somebody's overseeing like, who's that guy? Who's that white? Uh, I think he like made a call to like whoever I needed to call. And they're sure he's okay. And like, it's 100% not right. Right. Yeah. Like this one Rohingya dude in the camp was like, so, you know, um, up until now, we've only had like maybe two journalists show up here. Uh, and I asked like, what about, you know, like CNN, you know, somebody from America, have they ever been here? And they're like, no, we had like one Japanese reporter show up here. By the way, he got like, um, held for like three days afterward. And I heard that and like, uh, shit, that doesn't sound good. Why did he get held up? Um, but we actually like left the camp that day. Yeah. That wasn't the back of my mind for a while. I'll tell you, don't answer this, but I'll tell you what's going through my mind when I hear this. Is the Rohingya is the enemy, enemy ish of Myanmar, the Burmese. So if you get to a new place, it's just like we, it's like, you know, if you were a Jew who left back then in the heyday, in the, you know, what is the hate? It's so Nazi, you know, during the heyday of fucking victimization. Gotcha. Um, and you went here, you're like, all right, it's not a problem anymore. Yeah. It's not these people. It's there. So I would think that what if it's Indonesia, they're like, yeah, well, you guys don't hate us here. Yeah. There might be an issue with like relocation and stuff, but not like, yeah. I think that's what they're thinking. It's like Indonesia's like the only real like Muslim country. Yeah. I'm Malaysia, I guess. And they were just like, all right, they hate us for being Muslim in Myanmar. Let's go down to this Muslim country.
- Yeah, the biggest, the most Muslims in the world in Asia. - Not only that, but Indonesia, and especially that region, more than any other part of Southeast Asia, they show a lot of support for Palestine. You'll see like Palestinian flags everywhere. They're just like very pro-Palestine. So they were, they were probably thinking like, for sure, it's gonna be all right here. - Yeah. - Let's just show up. - Yeah. - They thought we're on. (laughing) - They were like-- - Took out, by the way, is Muslims, they're not great to Muslims. - They don't have the long history of being awesome to other Muslims. - Yeah, yeah. Probably didn't help that they look Indian. - Oh, yeah, the wrong kind of Muslims. - Yeah, they were like, yeah, we like Palestinians, but you guys, your Muslim too, we don't care. (laughing) - So go, okay. - Yeah. So basically, yeah, we leave that day. And like I said, I wanted to go out and buy some supplies for the kids and stuff. We go do that. This is where it gets really crazy. We come back like the following morning. And we're driving over to the-- - You left fine the day before. - Yeah, yeah, we left. It's not like they immediately started following us or anything, but we go back the following day. I had like a rental car. And we drive, by the way, driving in Indonesia is pretty difficult. - What? - They drive crazy. You got like all these like, mopeds, scooters going around. They don't follow any traffic laws. - Oh, I can't imagine. - Yeah, they got like these tiny, two lane roads and those are the highways basically. And everybody's like, just trying to pass all the time. It's tough. It's like, New York is nothing compared to this. - Yeah, I couldn't imagine. I mean, we always talk about just crossing the road in those places with the scooters. - Right. - How hard it is. - Yeah. - Driving in it as a non. - Yeah, yeah. I thought even just like driving a scooter there was bad, but the car somehow is even worse. 'Cause the scooter is like, they don't give a fuck. - Okay. - Like, they'll go right into you. Which is exactly what happened to me. It was like driving this car and no joke. Right in front of the refugee camp. Two dudes on a motorbike. They just slam right into the side of my car. I gave like more than enough space for them to go by and for some reason they just sped up and go right into the car. So we got into a bit of a traffic accident there and this causes the police to show up. And they're like, wait a minute. You're American and you're in front of the refugee camp. This is not just a traffic accident. We got some other questions for you. And I end up getting interrogated. - Who is this police or military? - So it starts off being the Indonesian traffic police, I guess. - Best case scenario. - Yeah, you would think so. - Best case scenario is a great traffic cop. It starts off with the traffic police. And they're kind of chill. They're like making jokes and stuff. Indonesians in general are pretty chill people. Even the police come off as kind of relaxed. But they keep me there for like three hours. They just have like a bunch of excuses. And then they're like, hey, we need you to come to this police station. 'Cause like we got these other guys you need to talk to. And it turns out they call like the secret service of Indonesia to come and talk to me. Which, first of all, I mean, it's ignorant, but I didn't even think Indonesia had like a secret service. - So are they done their job? - Yeah, I didn't find out they were a secret service. - Yeah, they were. - They're like, we're just a service. - Yeah, they're like, we're immigration police. Didn't find out they were a secret service until like a day or two later. But and then they just hammer me with like a long interrogation about why did I go to that camp? What were we doing talking to them? - What are they worried about? You can embarrass them? Or, I think that's what it was, mainly. And I want to say for the record, if the Indonesian government is watching, I did not want to embarrass your country. I love Indonesia. It was my partner that brought me there. So. I've signed documents. - Really? - Stating this, yes. - All hail Indonesia for sure. - Indonesia, all your life. - Great country. - Wonderful country for tourism. Everybody should visit, maybe not that refugee camp. Don't go to that camp, but Indonesia. Wonderful beaches. - Wonderful beaches. - When I was there was this, they had every student learns how many islands they have. It was like 17,146, and that's just a standard. Is that the number? - That is pretty much the number, yeah. - And then they were like, I was like, oh, 17,146, and then they started going, 'cause they just had his president, Jacobi. He's not the president anymore, is he? - Yeah, he was the last one. - No longer. - Yeah, the new one. - Okay, great. - Fuck the old guy. He sold off a few islands to China. So everybody there was like, we all learned the same number, and now it's not that number anymore. For fucking 200 years, you've all been saying the same number, fucking islands. - He messed it up. - He messed it up. - Yeah, that's a big deal. They really care about the islands. - They really do. - They've gone to war over those islands. - Wait, how were they treated over there? - Who, the indos. - The Rohingya. - The Rohingya. - So. - What were their, your pictures of any of this? - Are you allowed? - Actually, no. - Okay. - But I could. - Can you show me? - I could show you after. - Yeah, okay. - Yeah. - Can you show me now? - Let me again think about how to describe this, exactly. - Okay. - So they are in this building that used to be an immigration office, apparently. It was a band-in, and because the Rohingya just started showing up, kind of unannounced, it wasn't like a whole plant thing. And they're just like. - Aren't they in northern Burma too, northern it? - Um. - That's such a long way to go. - Yeah, it's kind of wild. They're right on the border with Bangladesh. - They're right in the corner, so they had to get and Bangladesh is up here. - Yeah, like that. So like the western corner of Myanmar, like right there. - Over here. - Yeah, a little bit further south, like on the coast. - Oh, they're on the coast? - Yeah, so that's why they're able to take the boats. So like Myanmar was like kind of chasing them into Bangladesh. - Yeah, and they had to be like, nope, don't go there. - Yeah, and they keep going. I'm sure there's a lot of the couple. - That's literally what happened. Like they just actually went to Thailand, I think. And the ties were like, yeah, no fuck you, get out of here. So they just kept going. They were like, what else is down there? Indonesia. - Indonesia, so you're here. You can't talk anywhere in Myanmar. They'll fuck with you. And Myanmar goes to south like this, like pretty far south of the beach. So you gotta go there and then across, in what boats? They just made their own boats? - Pretty much. I don't know what the boats look like exactly. I don't know if we can look that up, but they were very basic. - I hear refugees increasingly risk dangerous sea journeys often during monsoon season. Mistake. - Yeah. - To escape Myanmar and test book editions in Bangladesh. Oh, they're in Bangladesh too. - Yeah, they would cross over the border there. - Oh, are you kidding? That doesn't seem wild. - By the way, also typical Indonesian ferry. Typical safety features of an Indonesian ferry. - I can bet that. - Wow, I mean, yeah, that's wild. That is. - It's hard to imagine. - I mean, also how bad is the boat where these guys like, we'll just stay out here. - Yeah, I think that was like them coming ashore. - They don't look happy. Berka, Berka, also get some sun, lady. These guys are wearing tank tops. They're dressed for the right pocket vibe. Berka, Berka, come on. It's summertime clearly. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, they didn't want to. - Make it kid, get it, sun's out, guns out. - Yeah, yeah, no, they want to dress down. - Damn, that's shitty. So they took that all the way around. - Yeah, yeah, all the way down. I mean, they don't even have a fucking sail. - Nah, nah, nah, nah, it's crazy. I don't know how they did it. - How the fuck do they do it? - I don't know enough about boats. - The commitment of a refugee to get somewhere. Forget I get all the shit about like, well, we can't house them, we can't like deal with them. They're just gonna change the population. I don't know, everything. But the commitment alone to get to a place. - Yeah. - It's the same. - Yeah, I have never, I mean, if I'm like the subways 10 minutes late, I'm like, I fuck it. I don't even want to go. - Right. It's, yeah, you got to put things into perspective. Sometimes, I'm like, yeah. - Okay, so they get down there. So how are they treated? It's like, what's the conditions? What are we, sorry, I keep getting sidetracked. This is interesting, I mean, I've heard of this. - It's a wild situation and. - That your partner got you into it. - More people probably shouldn't know about this. - Yeah, 'cause they just know about the Myanmar stuff. I don't even know they were in Bangladesh. - Right, yeah. So I guess they're like, kind of like ethnically related to the people in Bangladesh and that's like-- - Yeah, it's Bangladesh right there. - Yeah. - Aren't they up here, too? I thought they're near the borders of-- - I think that's a different group. - It is a different group. - Somewhere over there is like people that actually look like more Chinese. And they say, I think they speak Chinese, though. And they're like, there's like a whole bunch of different groups fighting like a civil war with Myanmar right now. - The junta. - It's the most insane country that people don't really think about that much right now. - Doesn't get the press. - No, no, no, it doesn't. And also weirdly, like both America and China hate the government. - Of Myanmar? - America China don't agree on many things, but they're just like, yeah, this government sucks. Yeah. - I mean, it's all military, just kind of took over. - Yeah. - I respect their game, too. I was there and I was reading all about it while I was there. You know, when you're in a place and you're reading about the politics and you can sort of see it more, they're like, all right, all right, fine. We'll get back power.
yeah we will give up 49% of the government and to change the constitution you just need a 51% vote but we're going to give that up so like you can't do anything right yeah always had like that trump card so yeah eventually they're just like yeah fuck it actually we're gonna take it all back yeah you enjoyed your freedom we didn't care for it on our side yeah and so it became a dictatorship again and yeah we were up there and there were at least areas where like no you're a foreigner you can't go there yeah I thought okay yeah you would think China would like that but it turns out they're like the wrong kind of dictatorship there's like yeah you're not the one that lets us like build shit into the country so yeah I heard that about some distance there against Russia so then they're communist but the wrong kind of communist because they're like what we need to be an ally to us too yeah yeah shit gets crazy complicated it really does that's what we talked about with the Connor oh yeah yeah it was me and more there's a theme one so let's get back to this sorry right yeah terrible host by the way go ahead there enough um well the end everybody it's a story telling show me like me and friends we're all telling true it really terrible story into a top where it's face while face some time for a period grateful every STD horrible I'm gonna fuck you up an amazing story we just got started I'm gonna stop the tears you're a trouble bitch down yeah it's gonna be a good night it's gonna kill us all come on back to the fuck I should be a jail man are you okay? 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USA to sending stuff I think so the one that's got shut down as far as I could tell we're still sending money there okay so that didn't get shut down and they said they had like food every day given to them yeah they had a communal shower they tell me they're like I'll take a shower at the same time yeah I'll take a shower at the same time yeah dude if you're can I just stop and say this if you're an ethnically cleansed people do not get into a shower at the same time I would wanted a time that every time yeah yeah it moves ten at a time don't you gotta think about that one god think about that yeah they had like a little classroom yeah they had some people really okay they didn't have teachers though they had to like volunteer to be teachers so there's like one dude that spoke both like English and Indonesian okay so he was like the main teacher dude I think and but that was it like they're not really like allowed to leave the camp yeah they got to get like this pass and it's like very strict and so they can't leave cover because they can't go into the country yeah whatever reason like Indonesians hate them they're just like yeah they're all like thieves and stuff I don't think they actually ever stole anything have they been out of the camps yeah I think they are allowed to go out sometimes okay they're thieves and stuff yeah so yeah they're just they don't have the best precedent in the nature for some reason but yeah officially their their house they're fed they probably want them to leave but yeah that's their situation okay so then they they would so we're talking about the police or the the whatever so they just and then they said what you can't be talking about this at all yeah I mean they're being like kind of indirect about it they're also explaining like you know like these people you know like they they cause problems and stuff and um who is the military saying that the Secret Service yeah yeah they're just basically explaining you know why they're still in the camps they whatnot and that is their official position god damn yeah uh and basically they did not want me like at the very least they do not want me posting footage about it they said that yeah and again it was not my choice to go there so wow yeah are you frightened at that point that they're just gonna like not let you go I was getting starting to get pretty worried um thankfully um again I don't know how much of this I could put in the episode but like my partner who's Indonesian uh she knows the ropes the system and everything and she's just like Tommy we just got to wait for the moment when you give them money and I was like oh right obviously oh when is that exactly uh which is not obvious uh it turns out you cannot give money to the Secret Service uh they're gonna do their thing they're gonna spend like five hours seven hours interrogating you know and then making their report uh it turns out like Indonesian police really like reports and they ask you the same questions and they just keep taking reports and whatnot because I think it's like they got to fill out what they have to fill out and then kick it back to like you know their boss so I pretty much gave the same stories like the traffic police then like the Secret Service then the immigration police and it's just like one after the other but um they wanted us to stay there until basically we paid off the two guys on a bike that drove into the car we were driving so they're like yeah even though it's not your fault listen do something so we know we kind of we know you come from America like you probably have money give give these people some money how much you give them well uh um end up costing about $2,000 what I legitimately thought you're gonna say seven bucks I wish I could say that yeah it's uh there's $2,000 you just built them their own village I think I did I think I did Jesus and not all that was to the people on the motorbike so I get like um basically we had to give money to someone in power to go and put pressure on the people on the motorbike to accept the money we're giving them or else they would have held out forever they would have been like actually your American you should give us like $10,000 so this is kind of how it works oh my god in Indonesia yeah and it was wrapped up after about three days so really yeah see to stay there for there where you're staying at this time hotel hostel um are there hostels up there no way no there are no hostels unfortunately um but there were cheap hotels I mean the hotel costs like $10 per night so it's pretty much hostile anyway I mean nobody goes up there yeah it's um Jakarta is there some people go to to this a little bit but they're like salt flats or something salt mines around here there's a few cool tourist destinations um if you look at like that little spot of blue like in um kind of in the middle like near that city called Middan yeah yeah that's called uh lake toba and that's where my uh my business partners from uh it's like uh it's a pretty cool area oh island yeah in a lake yes it's almost an island it's the biggest lake on an island in the world uh it's also the biggest lake on an island it's fully cut off right pretty much yeah um there's like a canal the fullest lake
- Because it's on an island. - The biggest lake. - And you went to an island on a lake on an island. - Yeah. - That's pretty cool. - Yeah, no, it's trippy. - Yeah. - And it's also kinda unique 'cause it's one of the few parts in Indonesia that just decided to be Christian instead of Muslim. So it has a different vibe going on. And it used to be a hippie destination back in even the '90s. For some reason I fell out of favor, but they still have all these kind of hippie-ish hotels along the lakeside. - For like drugs and stuff, what kind of-- - I think people used to do more drugs there. Nowadays though, it's like, again, the vibe changed a bit. - Yeah. - There's still like some European tourists that go there, but it's not like it was in this heyday. - Yeah, I'd just like to say I could do a quick ad for today's episode. - Please don't. - We should break in, guys. If you're in, what island is this called? - Samus here. - Samus here. And you're hungry. Go to a new Tomah Graschon. New Tomah Graschon serving up. Boss, the best, the best, Bissik Ayam, decided to miss a sippy. And don't forget to get some. - Get that shit. - Get that shit. With fries, Crinkle Cut fries. Whatever you like, don't eat that lettuce or snap peas. That will make you sick for sure. Also soups and noodles. Look no further than New Tomah Graschon. Tell them sabbaticals down here. Now let's get back to the episode. - Exactly. - Great place. - Yeah. - Then they're myself. - Damn, that's so fucking crazy. There is a time when you're talking of the law. And it really does get wrapped. Like in Israel, it's the military. The police are kind of, when I was there, they're inept. They'd always lose like prisoners. They'd be like, all right, we have a prisoner. You guys transported him and they're like, we lost him. I'm like, fuck, a military coming and grab him back in. What were you doing in Israel? - I was studying, I was in seminary. - Oh, okay. - Yeah. - Just shifting prisoners around. - Yeah, I was getting intel for later incursions. - I got to. - I talked to the Israeli police, though. - Really? - Yeah, they're very pleasant. And by that, I mean, they're not pleasant. (laughing) - That's just Israel in general. This is provato, it's so annoying. Even on the beach, I'll show you how compatible. - Yeah. - But it's military or police. And sometimes it's like, it goes hand in hand, right? Where it's like, the military here is the police. - Yeah, yeah. - But there comes a time when you're talking to one of 'em, where you're like, oh, I don't have any control here. - Right. - You know, what that kind of hits you? Like, this is not up to me anymore. - Yeah, and especially in this situation, because a partner was handling most of the interrogation, 'cause it's an Indonesian. And like, I've learned some Indonesian, but it's not good enough for a police interrogation. So, I don't even know exactly what it's like. But also in Indonesia, yeah. Nice. - Thanks. - It's a great language. It's not that hard to learn. It's like a very simple grammar. - Really? - Yeah. - I had a chicken, an Italian chicken. You ever meet a traveler, like, whoa, you're way better than me, you know what I mean? - In what way? - Like, you're just a better traveler than me. Like, my first, when I first went to La Paz, - I have, I have, yeah. - In me and Mar, I met some German girls. She's like, no, yeah, you can sleep with a beach for three days before the kick. I'm like, wait, you just sleep at the beach? I'm like, you're just like, further along than I am. - Yeah. - And this Italian girl, we're on a boat, going to Komodo and Rinco and whatever. And she was learning Bajasa. - Right. - And I was like, what? And I was always doing like the seven words, whatever, like, please, thank you, hello. No, yes. You're one, two, three. - You heard it, I had a Mustang. - Food restaurant, you know, whatever. I just remember those. And she was like, when she heard a new word, she'd write it down and I was like, oh, wow. - Yeah. - And then I tried doing that for whatever they spoke and these team work. So I was going there next. And I was like, yeah, it was like inspiring. I'm like, let me try that. - Imagine setting your makeup. Then forgetting it's even theirs. Meet new grippy setting mist from Mabelie, New York. Gel to mist technology locks in your look for up to 24 hours with flexible all day comfy grip. Just plump, dewy, hydrated skin. That still feels like your skin. Try new grippy setting mist from Mabelie, New York. - Maybe it's Mabelie. - Yeah. - But she was learning Bajasa. She could get by kind of, it was crazy. You could get by. - I could get by. - Wow. Like you go to restaurant or order or you're fine. - I could do that. I could, yeah, just make people laugh. You know, ask for directions. - You got humor in Bajasa? - Yeah, yeah. It's, it's like pretty simple language to pick up. So you can just be. - How'd you learn? - Duolingo. - Duolingo. - Yeah, no joke. And then when I try to do with language, I really love languages, by the way. - Yeah. - I'm kind of a weirdo. I try to learn as many languages as possible. But what I like to do is find like a teacher online. Afterward. - Like you get a dumb joke kind of thing. - Yeah. And then just force them to talk to me. And like correct my mistakes. So I did that. And by the time you do a couple of classes, you're pretty much comfortable enough to go walking around, talking to people. - That's cool. - Where's the store? - Where's the store? - Yeah, there's those words that I find certain words. We'll get back to it a second. But like certain words like that I can apply to every sentence. Do you know where is, it hits you with everything. So all you gotta, you know restaurant, you know bathroom. But if you just go up to someone's like a bathroom, they go, what? Or just like, what are you saying? - You gotta clarify it. - Yeah. Do you know where is restaurant? And that's all you gotta say, bad grammar. Do you know restaurant where it is? They were like, I gotcha. I understand what you're saying. If you could somehow get it down to bathroom where? - Yeah, bathroom where, then you're like, okay. So you get that, yeah, you get that where with, my friend Druggler's told me this. We were both doing, he's remaining and so his Spanish is already a little better 'cause it's like Latin based. - Yeah. - But his one boom, he, chat GBT, talks to them for 20 minutes a day and says correct me in English. - Right. - And I'm just gonna tell you about my day in Spanish. He goes unlimited patience. They never get annoyed. You don't feel like you're bugging them. - Yeah. - And I gotta do it, but I don't know, but. - I've recently started using Chadguk too. - Really? - It's amazing, actually. 'Cause like, yeah, you can literally just ask it some weird-ass question. Like, tell me how to say like, yo, what's up in Spanish and like the most informal way possible in Mexico. And it'll give you that shit. Like without a beat, I'll take like two seconds. - Yeah, like, would you or Lingo ever get, when like, fat was a word, you know, for cool? - Yeah. - You know, with like, would they ever even get that version of in another country, or were they like, no, we're not doing that. - Like, if I used to do a Lingo version. - Yeah, like, yeah, they would never teach you a colloquial, like, fun way to talk. - Oh, no, that's definitely true. - Sick. You know, they wouldn't be like, yeah. That means something excellent is sick. - Yeah, this has been into the weeds, but like with Indonesian specifically, they have like a super formal version that everybody kind of knows, but they don't really speak it. There's like, the more slang-y, like normal version that everybody speaks, and of course, do a Lingo teaches you the formal version. So you like, learn all this shit, you get there, then everybody's like, "Ha ha, you're speaking the formal version." Let's just speak English. (laughing) - Damn, that's so cool you're learning it. - Yeah. Big fan of languages. - Wait, a couple questions about, still about the, if we were on a path. - Right. - Yeah. We could go on multiple paths there. I could tell you about another. - What they eat, when they were there. What was the food there, did they feed you at all? Did they say come eat with us? - At the interrogation. - Not the interrogation in the refugee camp. - Oh, in the refugee camp. They did not feed me the refugee camp, but yeah, they did get food. I believe it was the UN, or once some agency at the UN that's given them food, and it shows up like once a day. - Did you use your bathrooms? - I did, actually. - You must have. - I did, yeah. It's a pretty basic toilet. Is it a sitter or a squatter? - Was it a squatter? - Was it a squatter? - Yeah. But weirdly, I used to live in China. There's a lot of squat toilets over there. It's good for your hips, and you're, (laughing) sorts out constipation. So, you know, I'm no stranger to squatter toilets. I'm ready wherever they appear. - It takes them getting used to, but then you get used to it. - Yeah, yeah. You almost messed them up, they're wild. - By my end of China, my first China run, my only China run, it was like, I'm good. But the first three days, I'm like, I want to die. - Yep, China has got a bit of a learning curve. Let's go over there. - Okay, so that wraps up the fucking first one. Trouble with the law. - That was the first trouble with the law. The most recent. - Okay, let's, you know, roll pots, the writer. - Oh yeah, yeah, well. - So we did this thing, this writer exercise, where you'll say something and it'll remind someone of something else and then it reminds another guy of something. He just keep kind of keep going around. - Yeah. - So we'll just do that a little bit, but I was in Myanmar, as long as it's reminding, we were in a place where you weren't supposed to be. - Okay. - As a white. And we were just taped, there was like, we saw something on a map, a map stopped me of like, the statue. So we're like, all right, let's go to the statue in town. - Yeah. - We had to get permission to stay in town, because they were like, no whites. You had to move on, like the bus is gone. What do you mean, move on? We can't go anywhere. Like, go to south, like, no, we're going north. And then the guy was permission. We're going up this statue and then a bunch of fucking military come out with like machine guns. And they're like, what are you guys doing here? - It's fun. - And like, what's these pictures? What are you taking pictures of for? We're like, we're just like tourists. - Yeah. - And like, let me see the pictures, delete them. And we're like, okay, where's your passport? So I'm like, back at our hotel, like, let's go. - No, no. - I'm like, no, it's that same thing.
Like, oh shit, we're like beyond control. - Once they start asking for the passports, that's when you get worried. - And that's all that junta, junta, whatever stuff. I don't even know if this is the Myanmar military or a rebel group military or somewhere in between. Yeah, and it was like, we overstepped and we didn't know we were. We were just like, bro, we're not. It's the same thing, like I'm not trying to embarrass anybody. I'm just looking around. - Right, right. - Which of them is like, yeah, right, don't. - Right. - Yeah, they let us off, but it was like, fuck. - How long did they keep you for? - They made us go back at the passports. Then I think we got our hotel. So we had to get like special dispensation from a local like minister, not religious minister, but like political minister, you know, minister of finance, some like that. And he's like, all right, you guys can stay, but like this one where you're at, that hotel's not gonna let you stay. That's too much trouble. This other guy is doing it 'cause he's Buddhist and nice. - Yeah. - But like, he's doing this out of kindness. - Right. - So they started talking to him and I'm like, I think we might have got him killed. Then I actually stole his key too. For the hotel, I really feel really bad. - Sorry, bro. - Yeah, we were like, leaving in the next day. I'm like, ah, fuck. I took the key, it's shit. I went to mail it back, but they have no mail system. Yeah, it's just a feeling of lack of control. And then they're like, kind of just like, it's just kind of like, like mentally roughed us up. - Yeah, that's the best way to put it. You get mentally roughed up. Hopefully not physically roughed up, back in the happen to. - Are you scared of talking about this because you wanna go back to Indonesia? - Basically that, yeah. 'Cause overall, Indonesia is one of my favorite countries in the world. Like the people are amazing. The food's pretty good. As you just saw. - Yeah. - That's it. - Again, guys, don't forget. New Tomahawk Restaurant. - New Tomahawk Restaurant. - Yeah. - Can't recognize that. - Give him a five star review. Tell him it's a medical center. - For real. - Never had a bad experience there until this. So, and it's like, listen, I have sympathy for people that are in a shady situation anywhere in the world, but I wasn't trying to get involved in that necessarily. You know, I'm not like a war journalist or something. So, you know. - What are you trying to do? You're just trying to like see what the world is? - Pretty much. That is what I do. And I'm like, as I said before, like I love just looking at maps and just looking at random stuff. I really love this. It's just like, when I was a kid, you know, I used to have a globe. My parents didn't have much money. But I was like, damn, what the hell is going on in like Russia? What's going on in Brazil? You know, I wanna know someday. So, now I have the power to do this. - Okay. - And I just like follow these locations on a map. And usually it's like something amazing. It'll be like some chill little village. And they'll be like, "Hey, you wanna have breakfast?" And I'll be like, "Yeah, I do." - Especially with those notorious, right? - Yeah, a lot of places in Africa have been like this. I've done a lot of traveling in Africa. And like I'll just show up and I'll be like, "Hey, I heard you have like this rare kind of like liquor that nobody knows about. Where can I find that?" And then they'll be like, "I know. I'm gonna take you." And then like we just go drink this like crazy thing and I'm like, "This is amazing." - Was that a thing? - That was a thing. - What's the liquor? - There's been like 10 different ones. There've been like a coconut one. There was banana one in Tanzania. - Banana liquor? - Yes. - You got pictures of any of this? - I do. I have a video about it. - That you made? - Yes, one of my most famous. I could pull it out. - Oh really? Well then I got your YouTube right here. - Yeah, I almost got forced into polygamy while I was there. - I was forced. - Yeah, right bro. - Yeah, right. - That is how I viewed the situation at the very least. Oh, you have it up. - Yeah, where is it? - It's some of the highway search for that. - Videos most popular? - Yeah, it just type the most popular. - Okay. - There you go. Number two. - I was forced into polygamy and rural Tanzania. - Yes. - Three years ago, 8 million views. - It's morning. - It's about 40 miles of Mount Kilimanjaro. - The China people. - They didn't look fun. - 1,000 years have lived on the side of the mountain. And they still continue to do so today. They're known for two things. One, it's being very good at business. - This is very-- - This is very second. - Is that they fucking like get drunk on bananas. Today, I'm gonna go and investigate - That's the key part. - Damn, cool. - So yeah, I did just like get on a bus, go out to this village. - Whoa. - I'm talking for that looker and it leads to an insane situation. - What happened here? And by the way, let me say this, that there's, I have at least different kinds of tourism. - Yeah. - So like, so like, one I wanna go is like sauna tourism. So like in Finland and, you know, they have one kind. They have this weird one in Guatemala. And then it's like, the Jews have like their shfits. And it's like, you know, you can like go see different ones. I just discovered another one of my friends went to Israel, he showed me the Palestinian tunnels. I was like, oh, tunnel, tunnel tourism. The Gucci tunnels would be a knockout. - I'm like Saunas. - Mexican tunnels and like, oh, that'd be a fun way. But the battle tub liquor is in different countries that own style of bat tub liquor. Here, it's moonshine. - Right. - Yeah, Indonesia was that palm shitter. - They do have their own kind of liquor over there, too. - He has always given in like an empty other bottle. - Yeah, I actually, in that province where I got stopped because, you know, the whole sharia law thing, alcohol is kind of illegal. So, of course, they have their own moonshine. And it is kind of a palm liquor, which I didn't try, of course. - Okay. - But I heard it's pretty good. - So you went got banana liquor? - Yeah, in Tanzania. And it's the liquor itself. I don't know if I was a fan, to be honest with you. - Okay. - Because it's just like, I don't know what it was, but it's just like, got banana bits and stuff. Just like, and they like sift up to the top. You kind of gotta like dodge it as you're drinking it. (laughing) But, yeah, the story with that one was, I just go wandering around this village. I just cut more like a town. It wasn't like that on the belt. But like the weirdest person ever, I'm just going around. Hey, like, you know, I heard about this liquor. Like, where is it? I sit down at this bar. Just start talking to people. - Well, you're gonna play Frisbee in the back. - Yeah, there you go. I had to go find like a hat, 'cause I got this pale Irish skin. - Yeah, oh yeah, for sure. Stop at this bar. And. - Look at this guy, he rules. This guy rules so hard. He knows your film and he's like. - Zero fucks given. - Yeah. - Zero fucks given. Yeah, I go to this bar and then like, the lady working there is just like, hey, I don't know about that liquor necessarily, but I have these daughters and you should talk to them. And this just like leads into like, the daughters end up taking me to the banana like beer spot. - Oh. - Yeah. It was a big bonding experience. - You want a black chick's? - I mean, I'm not in the black chick's. - But not, you don't have the, it's not your own exclusive guy. - I have every fever. Let's put it that way. I love the walk. - Right. Wait, what do they call it? Is it yellow fever when you're two into Asians? - It is that one. - Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah. - The one for like, black chick sounds got a racist. - I don't know how to say that one, right? - Move it on. You've had a New York hat right there? - I did, yeah, of course. - That's great. - Of course. - That's great. - I have to represent. - Dude, when I was in China, I was at the airport in somewhere. - Yeah. - And I saw a chick wearing in line and airport wearing a New York Knicks world champions 1997. And I was like, when was that? - Yeah. - No, never. - Yeah, yeah. New York is actually like more popular than like America around the world. In Indonesia too, you'll just go everywhere. You'll see like some dude wearing a New York Yankees hat. And I go up and I ask them like, yo, you've been to New York? They don't speak English. They're just like, yeah, this hat is cool. - Yeah, I like it. - Yeah, that's fine, and why, whatever. - Yeah, yeah. Okay, so they take these two checks, these two hot, fucking black checks, take it to a bar. - Yeah, it's, I don't know if you can call it a bar. It's like, it's like a shack, literally a shack. And they just have these places. And like, they serve the liquor there and like this giant cup thing. And it's like meant to be shared. So you just like pass it around. It's almost like a smokeshack or something. - Drinking and passing, drinking and passing. - Yeah, you just take one pass, give it to the next person, and whatnot. I think it's like a little bit difficult to drink 'cause it's like at all like, whatever it's made of, floating around in there. - Yeah. - But you know, you'd do it, especially when like, as you said, two hot black checks bring you there. You're saying I'm gonna roll it this. And that was pretty much the day. - Whoa, and what'd you get in trouble with? - I didn't get in trouble there. That was an amazing experience. I have like zero complaints about that. - Yeah. Wait, was this them? (laughing) - It's a picture of them. - Pretty much. - Pretty much. - Okay, cool. Yeah. - Yeah. - You have that on your phone. - Yeah, yeah, that's exactly what it looked like. - Okay, cool. - Afterward, yeah. - I just went now. (laughing) - All right, I'll get rid of this. - Yeah. He's just showing like, you know. - Let's get rid of that. That won't make it to air. (laughing) That's just for us. - I feel like that will get demonetized. (laughing)
if you know the YouTube rules, I can almost guarantee you that's not gonna be allowed. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Wait, do you get in trouble with the law there? - Not in Tanzania. - Okay. - Tanzania, well, kind, I mean, another experience I had in Tanzania was, these people like stole my bag off a bus. Actually, the literal bus company stole my bag, and like I set up, you know? I was taking this bus from Tanzania to Uganda. It's like this little thing, they're like, hey, this is like the lunch break stop. Everybody needs to get off. You know, you're just gonna be off for like 10 minutes. We'll watch the bags. - But they have those, that's a normal-ish kind of thing. - Yeah. - We pulled up, everybody get off. - Yeah. This was my first country in Africa. - Okay. - I mean, this could literally happen everywhere, I'm sure. But like, on a border with Uganda, little did I know, like this company is known for that. - No, really? - Yeah. And it sounded like, oh, they told me they're gonna watch the bags, it'll be fine, so I just get off with nothing, but like my phone and my camera to make like YouTube videos. - Okay. - I come back, and of course, the bag is gone. And that sucked. - We thought you were shitting it? - With all my shit, literally all my shit. Like all my clothes, I used to wear contact lenses, got the Lasix inside. - You said you took your camera with you? Or that was a stole off? - Thank for I took the camera. And this was before, like I started to get bigger on YouTube. So like, thank God, 'cause like. - You wouldn't know. - That would have fucked me up a big time. - Yeah. - 'Cause like one of my like, what ended up becoming a viral video was on, literally, the memory card in that camera. So, thank for I took that one. I'm kind of like, scatterbrained with this stuff. I'm not very organized. - Fightoff. - Same. - But yeah, no, in that bag was like my passport, my laptop, all my clothes. - Oh no, they got your passport. - They got the passport. - What do you do when, what's the process? After it's gone. - Generally speaking, you need to go and find your embassy. And every country. - You have your phone. - Yeah. - So you can locate an embassy. - Yeah. The problem was, I don't know if we want to look this up on the map here. - Sure. - But basically on the whole opposite end of the country. - Right, yeah, that's the thing too. You're not near an embassy. If you're in Kansas City, do you like? - Yeah. - I like finding an embassy over whatever version of that. - Yeah. - Where is this Tanzania? - Tanzania, yeah. It's like, it's the country where they filmed the Lion King. Pretty much. - Yes, I got there with the lake, speak the lakes. That's Lake Victoria. And then you will see that it is very far from the capital city, which is Dar Salam. And if you want to go to the embassy, you got to go all the way back there. - Dar Sal, oh yeah, you're fucked. So what do you do? - So what sucked was like, I was in like this kind of like limbo where the police got involved. And they told me like, we're looking for the-- - Do you call them? Are you like, hey, with the fuck my back stolen? Call the cops? - Eventually I somehow got in contact with the police. I turned into like a real Karen on the bus. I was just like-- - It works. - It does work. - You gotta do it. - It does work. I was like, hey, listen, I know like the employees of this bus stole it, like we need to like stop the bus. They ended up like stopping the bus and like questioning people and everything. But again, it was like a pretty slick operation. They already got in the bus, got in the bag over to somebody else. - Gone? - Yeah, they fenced it. I don't know what the hell they did with it. But the police were just like, all right, we need more time to look for it. And that sucked because like I have again, like no passport, no clothes, no contact lenses. I'm like practically blind and shit. And in this part of Tanzania, there's like nothing. You're not gonna find like a new contact lenses. You're not gonna find a new laptop or anything. - Damn. - So, yeah, I just end up like finding like a hotel. I have to like hang out there for three or four days. And I'm just like, naively hoping. - Would they let you in with their passport to the hotel? - Yeah, that wasn't a problem. - Okay. - I'm just like naively hoping the police are gonna find this bag. And then it got kind of weird 'cause I was like, - Then it got kind of weird. - Shit. Well, I mean, I'm thinking like, all right, they told me like you're supposed to bribe the police in Africa. But like, that situation, yeah, they're not holding you up. - Exactly, like that situation never like became obvious. - The bus company should bribe them. You shouldn't be bribing them. - I was like really confused about the whole briving situation. - So how do you do them? They're so difficult, like when's the right time? You don't wanna offend anybody. - Yeah. Or you can't, like, it's just like when's the right time? I love in the movies, we're like take out, like your pat, your license with a bunch of money. Like, oh, here's my license officer. And they're like, are you trying to bribe? I'm like, no way. - Believe me, there's an art to it. - There's an art. - They usually, you have to like somehow hint that you're in trouble. And then they'll be like, well, you know, I need like a coffee. Maybe you can buy me a coffee. All right, obviously with the New York accent. All right, they'll say like, maybe you could buy me a coffee. Yeah, buy me dinner, just, you know, buy us food. They'll have like some variation of that. - And, but I would still be like, okay, let's buy you food. I wouldn't be like, I'm just gonna give you the money for the food. - Right, right. - Like, all right, where are we going? This is cool. I've talked to some locals while we eat dinner. I'd be like, no, but you're not invited to the dinner. We're shaking you down. - Right, right. Yeah, I mean, if an art from what I remember in Tanzania, it wouldn't be like that much. It might be like 20 bucks. That's a country where you could literally give like that. - But the thing is also like, I want to know how, 'cause like, they're hoping for the white whale with like, here's a thousand? Like, no, it's not one of three dollars. - Yeah, yeah, yes. (laughs) You do have to. - And you can't show them all your money. Do they have a good code of ethics about how much has shake these people down for? Like, just give me 20 and get on your way. - I mean, some-- - If you have multiple hundreds of like, I think I can get all that. - Some are nicer than others. In this situation, this particular situation, I did not end up giving a bribe. 'Cause like, by like the fourth day, I'm like calling them up. And this is where I'm trying to feel out. Like, where do I give the bri-- How do I ask for that? (laughs) And so like, I start to like ask these questions. Like, is there anything I could do to like, speed this process up? You know, I was just thinking like, maybe they have the bag and they're just, you know? But they were just like, no, no, this is not really anything else. Just sit there, you know, just hang out. - Oh, right. So you're saying it right. Is there anything I could do off of the books that could assist with this? - Yeah, I was very confused by the situation. I don't know if they actually wanted a bribe or not. And like, you can't push that hard, 'cause they might like, try to fuck with you. - Also up there, they even worried about tourism where they're like, we gotta protect tourists, we gotta stuff. If you're from doing it, or they like, we don't have enough tourists to make this an issue for us. - It's not a place tourists would go very often. So they're just like, yeah, we're not. Maybe they're not used to asking for bribe from tourists. Maybe that was like a new situation. - Yeah. - So anyway, I never got my bag back, had to find a very rare flight from that region back to the capital city. - How did it pay for it? - You had your wallet. - I did have my wallet too, yeah. I forgot to mention that, thankfully. - I think, what if your wallet and stuff gets, or if you get held up and they take everything, do you know, like, am I just dead? How would I get to? - That does suck. I don't think I've ever had my wallet taken. So yeah, that's a pretty key one. If there's anything you should try to hide, or like, sew into your shorts or some shit, make it your wallet. - Yeah, it's like when you go take a shower in a house, or you're like, I'm not taking anything of value with me. I've got to assume it's gonna be there. It's all locked up, but if it come back and it's all gone, you're like, no, I just gotta be in favor time. Like, night is your phone. - Lock your stuff up for sure and I'm still. - Yeah. - Do not be like that night of American. - I'm not sleeping about it. - That's pretty cool here. - Yeah, yeah. 'Cause it's like, say, it may not be the locals, it may just be like some tourists or whatever. - Oh, it's only gonna be other tourists. - Yeah, yeah. - You just know some opportunists. - I'm not sure. - Yeah, you never know. - So do they ever help you? Do they ever find it? - No, they never get the bag back, so. - What do they say? Or they just like? - They, well, basically after that phone call, where I was trying to figure out, where do I give the bribe? - Yeah. - I just, I was just like too frustrated. I was like, I don't understand the shit. I'm never gonna get the bag back. So, this sucks, but let me start the process of like getting everything back. So, I take a flight, as you can see, it's like an 18 hour drive to get back there otherwise. That's not even like, that's from the closest city. Like, Mawanza, so it's like actually like a 24 hour journey. - Oh. - But, I get back to the capital city. It takes like a week to get a new passport. There's like, literally, I think maybe one or two eyeglass shops in the whole city that could give me contacts. And they were like these kind of weird contacts that you got to like wear for a year or something. Maybe that's not weird, I don't know. But, I used to wear like the dailies. So, did that. I had to buy some new clothes. - You're pretty tall, right? That one's pretty difficult. - Yeah, I mean, it is Africa. But weirdly, it's a short part of Africa. I don't know how the Tanzanians feel about that, but there's a lot of short people there. So, I did find some shirts. And after that, after I finally got a passport, I was like, all right, not doing a bus journey. I'm just gonna fly directly to like the capital of Uganda, which is Compala. - Yeah, I see it right there. - And I'm not fuck around with this anymore. - You were just done. - Yeah, no, I was just like, I'm just gonna go to Uganda and hang out and like, go to a music festival or something. - Oh nice, oh yeah. - Yeah.
- You got into the great country. - You got into better. - I mean, you didn't have the better. Have you been back to Tanzania ever? - I'm actually going to go back this year. - Revenge on the country, make it a good time. - Exactly, exactly, I've been to Tanzania twice. So it's a great country. - You've been there to the Ulugur Mountains? - I've not been there, where is that? - Right to the north, right there. - Right in the north, okay. Gonna put it on the less for next. - This guy's cool, isn't it? He has been there. - Oh, he's gonna rap. I'm about to think I might have to hear it. - I guess it's the music video. - This is exactly the vibe you can experience when you go there. - I mean, they don't look uncool. - Yeah. - Damn, that looks beautiful. - You're a hiker? - It is beautiful up there. That's not far from like the Serengeti. You probably heard of that. - Yeah. - Mount Kilimanjaro. You've died climbed it. - Oh nice. - This is 80s. - Hell yeah. - At the top. - Did you have to pay money to climb it back then? - Possibly. - Yeah. I was like pretty broke when I was there. - Yeah. - This is before the YouTube took off, so I was like, they wanted me to pay a thousand dollars. - A thousand. - Yeah, they really hiked it. - Dude, the mountain's a good shape. I'm not gonna ruin it. - Yeah, so I was wanting to see. I just like basically did a hike around the mountain. - Oh, it's down to the south. - Sorry, it's not upside down north. It's near Daris, hold on. - At the Uluguru? - Yeah. - I guess so. - Interesting. - Okay. - But yeah, inspired by that, I love Tanzania. - Okay. - Highly recommended. - Okay, I got a shakedown story for you. I was a small one, then we'll get to your next, maybe Russia, maybe somewhere else. - Right. - This spot, Ecuador, somewhere in the north. I was there for six months. I had to get a three month visa and then renew. This is during COVID time. - Okay. - And we were like renewing these. We had to go to the back to either wire killer Keto to get a renewal. - Okay. - And I did. And that comes with driving abilities. And I was driving me and my buddy. And it was just checkpoint, military slash cop. I don't know. - Yeah. - And they're like, all right. Let's just talk, can I see your license? Oh, you're not Ecuadorian. - Right. - Can I see your permit to stay? I go here, they go, oh yeah. But this is like four and a half months old. It's a three month thing. I'm like, yeah, we got a renewed. I got a word a month and a half ago, it says right here. They go, yeah, but you can't drive after three months. And I was like, no, they, so my buddy was doing the talking. He was more fluent in Spanish, but more of a dumb fuck. And I knew immediately what was going on. And he had no clue, which is. Dumb American is such a great car to play. Either Karen or Dizzy Blonde, Dizzy Blonde or Dizzy calls it, but like, so he's just like, no, we're allowed to drive here and he goes, and the guy just keeps going, the cop goes, ah, this isn't good, it's not good. And he was like, why? We went back to the Capitol, we got the thing stamped. And he goes, yeah, but it's only three months. They go, no, they said it's for six months because we got a renewed. I just come on, man, this isn't good. This is not good. - Yeah. - And he just kept going, what do you mean not good? It's stamped. I don't know what to tell you. It's stamped, the guy's like, I don't think it's allowed. It's like, he just kept playing dumb until the guy eventually, the cop was like, fuck it, just, all right, just go. And he goes, what was that guy's problem? I'm like, if you didn't have any clue, he was trying to shake you down. - Oh shit. - And he goes, oh, yes, that makes sense. But I was gonna tell him, like, give him 20 'cause we had to open up our wallet with 200 in it. - Yeah. - So he had never showed, he had to be like, hold on. I have $5 on me. - You can't really do it that way. - Right, right. Yeah, playing dumb is a good way to get out of it, but sometimes you're like, I will pay you. Tell me how much, and I'll decide if I will pay you or not. - Right, right. You didn't want to set like a baseline, you know? You don't want them to like set the anchor. - Yeah. - You'd be like, yeah, five bucks. But you don't want to offend them. - You don't want to offend them. It's like, no, it's okay, are you like, damn. - Yeah. - I've said one, fuck. - I was traveling down about how California in Mexico. I never said, I don't even know where Mexico is. - That's actually really good. - Yeah, that was split, yeah. - Split thing in there. And everybody warns you, like if you're coming from San Diego, like, you know, the Mexican police, they give you a little corrupt down there. So just watch out, do you know, be a good driver. If you do get pulled over, the going rate is about $50. - It's good to know what that going rate is. - Yeah, yeah. - It is helpful to know that. So it's like, if they do get into a negotiation with you, you can just start off with like, maybe like 30. - Yeah, you know the range. Yeah, although you start off with a hundred and they're like, we got this guy for five. - Yeah, yeah. Now they're like, oh, gold mine. - Yeah. - Thanks for having to get stopped, though. I keep waiting for like Mexican corruption and whatnot. I've been very lucky with Mexico. - Yeah. - I mean, maybe, I don't think I'm that good of a driver. So. - Sometimes I feel like, especially now that you're doing better, you're not like living like, hand them out. - Yeah. - It might be fun to be like, I'd love to get shaken down for like, 10 bucks, it's worth it. - Yeah, just having the experience. Oh, this is what it's like in Mexico. - Yeah. - I've had this experience in Africa and Indonesia. Chiang Mai with the wrong way. Just like on a mo pad with the wrong way. Saw it, I mean a quarter of a block. Realized, oh, it's one way and then turned out. - No, no. - Wooboo Chiang Mai is famous for that shit. - Yeah, he goes, listen, you can go to town hall and do this, or you can just, we can do it now for 500 baht. - Right. - Which is, by memory, how much is that ish? - 500 baht, I think that's about like $15. - Okay. And I was like, fuck that. No way you shaking me down. It should only be 400. And you're shaking me down clearly. This is such a dumb fuck move. I mean, to get it from 15 to 12. And I was like, no way. And he goes, all right, well, then I gotta hold your license. And I'll take it to town hall and you pick it up there. And he goes, or again, I mean, it's up to you. I could write it up or we could just take care of this now and you can keep your license. - Right. - And it's 500 baht. And I spent like five hours dealing with the fucking town hall traffic department. Getting it back paid the 400. - Yeah. - What a dumb fuck move. Not to just take care of it right there. - Rookie mistake. - Such a rookie mistake. I mean, in his mind, he's like, bro, first of all, you don't have to pay it to the guy. Just give it to me. It'll save you five hours for three dollars. Just do it. I'm not even charging you 100 bucks. - Yeah. - And there's a dumb fuck move and I'm sitting there and there's like, as they're processing it with the like, you can tell they're almost surprised. Like, you didn't try to shake it down? - Yeah. - This is like inconvenient for us and you. - Yeah. I feel like this is a mistake, like we would all make, go in a broad, because you know, it's like, we kind of have a functioning legal system in America. Or at the very least, you can't really bribe the cops here. So that's a very foreign situation. We can't imagine that. And we think like we're all good people. So, you know, if we go to another country, you get stopped in like Tanzania or Mexico or Thailand. And you hear something like that. And you're just like, I'm not gonna do that. - You're crooked. - Yeah. - This is immoral. - No, no, no, no, no, I'm gonna do this the right way. I didn't do anything wrong. And then stay abroad long enough. You're like, damn, what are you doing? Like, that's the way to do it. - But there's also like, in New York, you're going from long either in New York to there's like a $30 fucking toll. Did they put that into place now? - Well, that's the congestion jacks even more. But like, except for like the Williamsburg Bridge. - Yeah. - It's too slow. But like the other bridge is like, you get a toll or down here, but Brooklyn Bridge is toll. - Right. - The tunnel is toll. - Yeah. - Or you can go to somewhere in Mexico where there's no toll, but there is a, your light is a little too dark. I need five dollars. - Yeah, yeah. - And they're like, all right, it's the same difference as a toll. It just seems wrong. - Right, right. - When it cops doing it versus it's an official, it's an ethical toll. - Yeah, but it's just the toll system. It's like, you're white, we need five bucks from you. - Yeah, you know. - You have to give too much money to the cartel, you know. We have to like make the tax revenue somehow. - Yeah. All right, where else you got? Trouble the law or military? - Trouble the law or military. Well, I would say the biggest and worst was in a little country called Russia. - Well, I've heard of it. - Yeah. - That's not to scale, but look how fucking big it is. - Yeah, I'm really good, it's a big country. I've heard it's the biggest country in the world. I'm gonna really make myself out to be a real naive American by the end of this podcast, but I decided to go to Russia last year. - No, you could get in. Tim Dylan said he couldn't get in. - Really, he tried to go. - I don't know how hard he tried it. And he definitely doesn't have to know the know it all and that's not so wrong word. The intelligence, the experience, the travel experience you have of like land borders and shit like that and how to ask twice. - Right, yeah. I just brute force my way into these situations, which is that is not the country. - Where'd you go? How'd you get in? - So you can get a visa for Russia still. - You can? - Yeah. - Is it funny when you hear everything that says one way that you look it up and you're like, no, you can. - Yeah, yeah. It's actually not the hardest visas you get. - That's what I mean, my friend Bob went to Cuba. I literally, this is in this past year. - Yeah. - I don't know why in October or something like that, December or something. But everyone's like, so would you have to fly to Brazil first? And then they're like, no, we flew from America. They're like, no, that's not allowed. I'm like, oh, it is. And they're like, there's flights. So like, there's 15 flights a day from Miami at other 20 from Houston. - Yeah.
And the people like, no, that's not how it works. I'm like, I know, I also thought that. (laughs) So you can go to Russia. - Yeah. - Wild. - Okay. - It's, I thought it was trippy, though. I assumed it was gonna be like, incredibly difficult. And, you know, the Russian Embassy is closed in America. But they have kind of like, I don't remember what they call it, but there's like some office. It's basically, it's not even a consulate. - Okay. - It's like the visa agency. - Basilica. - But it's like a front for the Russian Embassy. - Okay. - There's no longer there. - You still need an embassy, I mean. - Yeah. - You still need an embassy to be operating. There's Russians here. - Yeah. So it is, it feels like slightly sketchy 'cause you have to mail your passport. - To Russia. - To this agency. But you're still, you're like mailing your passport to Russia. Effectively, that's what it feels like. And it's not cheap. It's like $500, 'cause you gotta basically pay them. And they just hold it for like a month. And they don't give you like a time frame when you gotta get it back. They say it may be a month. - Okay. - And I travel a lot. So this was actually really inconvenient. - Yeah, right. - I had to hang out in America for a while, do some traveling within my own country. - Wait, have you ever heard this? Somebody just gave me this as a travel tip. Two passports, actually. - From the same country. - Yeah. - In this situation. - I just got this, actually. I'm like, can't let this happen again. - You're allowed to have two passports? - It's true. Yeah, you gotta have like-- - You just say I want, you don't say I'm claiming it lost. You just, how do you do it? - You gotta give a reason for it. And this would qualify as a legit person. - Yeah, it's like, you know, I love these. Sometimes you're like, I don't, you're like, you don't have a lot. You can actually tell them the real truth. It's actually the reason. - Yeah. - You know, if you get an unemployment, like, ooh, which I lie. I'm like, say you're unemployed, that's why it's there. I'm like, oh, okay. - Yeah, exactly. - So you can just be like, I travel a lot. I gotta send my passport out. And in the meantime, I've traveled another place and I won't be able to. And they'll be like, okay. - Exactly, yeah. They, I think they know that like some countries hold you up with the visas, so. - Yeah, if you work for USA or something like that, like you're bouncing. - Yeah, they're like, you wanna go to Congo? No, I mean, we don't recommend that, but, okay. That's gonna take a while. Here's your second passport. It may take a while to get. Actually, just getting another passport in America is surprisingly annoying and complicated. Like, it could literally take like three months or something, but you gotta like, I think you can pay more. - You can throw money at it. - Yeah. - You can always throw money and stuff. And then you can shorten it down to like two weeks, but it's still more complicated than that. You have to like call this like agency or something and you have to like, time it just right. Like within two weeks of when you plan to go to the agency. - I just did it. - Yeah, and it's like, hey, I need it on a rush. And then they go, okay, when's your ticket somewhere? Also, I should say this for travel tips. I do a travel tip at the end, but I'll just do it now. You can get a ticket, do a screen grab of that ticket, and then cancel the ticket. If they need you to like be proving that you have a ticket somewhere, or like a way out, also, sometimes you're like, I'm gonna go to this country for like, I don't know who knows. And they go, we need you to prove that you're leaving. - Yeah. There's pay for a ticket ununited. Immediately canceled, but get that email. - Yeah. - So anyway, yeah, but they're like, I would never do this, but you can do this. - They go, when you leave in town, I go, I don't know if I'm fucking in this month. They go, no, that's too far in advance. They're like, yeah, and you have to just, it has to be within two weeks, yeah. - Yeah. - And then you got to get a ticket for, I don't know, I just made it a plausible place. - Right, right. - You know, Cusco Peru, I think. I was like, I was like, somewhere where it's, and then I was like, I need a passport, cancel that flight. - Right. Yeah, no, there's actually a lot of countries that'll require this for the visa, or even just like, to get into the country. They'll be like, yeah, you need to flight out. - You'd flight out. - Or stuff like that. So there's actually literal websites built around this. They don't always work. - To fake it? - Yeah, I think one is literally called like fake flight ticket or something, which is what it implies. But I think they get shut down, so it's like whack 'em all. - I'm giving you my travel tip, put it in there. I'm fucking located for later. We're gonna do a book of travel tips. - You could do either one. - Yeah, just get the flight on there and cancel. Every airline gives you 24 hours. - They don't, yeah. - Just screen grab and go. They don't have to prove it. But the thing is, you're like, sometimes you're going to India, like, I don't want it not gonna be done. I might take a land thing over to fucking wherever Thailand allows or something. - Yeah. - I'll decide later. Or I might go to fucking Bangladesh instead. - Yeah. - Let me go, you know. But they're like, no, it's not allowed. Bullshit. Anyway, okay. - Right. - Back to you. Sorry. - Yeah. - Yeah, two passports. Oh, that's two of them. - Right. - And the Russian agency. - So, okay. Thank you. Thank you for posting for me. I do need the help. - You're welcome. - Yeah. - Yeah. - So, why'd you go? - So mainly, I've always wanted to go to Russia. - Okay. - I mean, it's the biggest country in the world. It's like, I mean, it's Russia. It's, you know, there's, forget like the current political situation, everything that's going on. And the podcast is 100% apolitical. You don't talk about it. We're not interested in that. - It's just a cool country. You know, it's like Moscow. It's got like all the Soviet history. - I think the Muslims went there because they thought it would be full of mosques and then, and then realize it was Moscow. It was spelled there. Only then, Moscow. - I haven't heard that. But I thought that's, that's pretty well. Couldn't believe it. Couldn't believe it. - It was stupid. - All right. Sorry. - Yeah. - Pretty much retarded. - Yeah, you know, you can take the Trans-Ibarian. - Oh, yeah. - Did you? - I did. - Wow. - Yeah. - Once I eventually got there, I was just like, hell, yeah. - You got pictures of that? - I do. I do. I do. - Let me see that. - Videos. - Yeah. - Do I have pictures? - My problem is, because I make these videos, I always forget to take pictures. - Oh, really? - Yeah. - Okay. - But I could pull up a video. - You don't pay for YouTube Premium. You know what's shitty? They don't just give it to me. - Wow. - Let it be known, YouTube. - What a cheap mother f. Turn it sideways. - Yeah, it's the Trans-Ibarian though. - Oh, that's cool. - Oh wow. - You know, give it back my bedding. Getting off the train. - I want to see this. - Four or five in the morning. - It's bright light up. - Yeah. And this is just like a little city. - Do you jump on and off? Do you have like a pass to go on and off? Good off for a couple days, get back on. - I was trying to buy something like that. But I'm very like last minute. - Yeah, I knew where I was going. - Same way. - Yeah, I didn't know where I was going exactly. - That's why it's fun to be like, I might just get off here. We'll see. - Yeah. - Did they have that? - They probably have something like that. Like a Trans-Ibarian pass. This was like a city called Olmsk. They told me it's like the Indianapolis of Russia or something. - And like, what's crazy about Russia is like, in all these little cities across the country, that will all have like some crazy history. Like in this particular place, I found out that they like deported all these Germans there. So they had like this big like German Russian community. And most of them like left. They went to Germany after the Soviet Union fell. But they still had like a little community in the town. So I was like, I'm going to go check this out. - Okay. - Yeah. - So how'd you get in trouble there? - I'm going to get this going. - No, it's okay. - Okay. - I wouldn't picture of you on the train. - But yeah, on the train. I think I can get one more. Keep this going. This train party going. - What? - There we go. - Can you just, is it like a cool train like here? Like where you can look at the window and like get the landscape and stuff? - Oh, yeah. I mean, yeah, you can watch the landscape as you're going by. - I love the train. - They got like a restaurant car. It's, no, the train. - Tobacco, Tobopp. - What is that? - That says comrades actually. Tobarri. - You speak Russian? - Especially after this story you'll understand. - Okay, I'll go. - I'm Russian, pretty good. - So, yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah, so anyway, the trains are awesome. But my mission was to go from Russia and to end. - Okay. - And once I finally got there, I was like, very excited. And like, when I first arrived, I was going to enter into Russia by land. And you pretty much have to do that. I think there's a way to fly into it from like Turkey or something. But otherwise, because of the sanctions, the borders with Europe are like very close. - Yeah. - Yeah, there's no flights. So, I went to Estonia, which is. - Yeah, my friends from there, he's homosexual. - Well, there you go, yeah. - But he's like a homosexual and like a weird way. He sucks off guys at glory halls only. - Oh, perfect, yeah. - I didn't know they were known for that. - Yeah, so spray it in my face. But there's a way to say that in Estonian. - You see, that's what happens when you get freedom in capitalism. - Russian. - They don't have that. They have no homosexuals. - Okay. - But, yeah. So, I crossed the border from Estonia into Russia. And at first, I thought, you know, that's going to be the most like fear-inducing experience ever. I thought like, if they're going to get me, it's going to be right then. And especially because, to cross that border, it actually takes a crazy amount of time, like eight hours. - After the border? - Yeah, for real. Like, you show up there. - Estonia in a right here. - Exactly. Close city is St. Petersburg, which is where I went after. And so, you have like this long line, it's basically all Russians trying to cross back into Russia. And it's actually mainly the rest of the world.
the Estonians that are holding everybody up, 'cause they don't actually want people to go to Russia. And they don't want people bringing like euros to Russia. And what happened to me was, I get just to-- - Did they say hate them? - Pretty much, like the war and everything. - Also, I bet a lot of Estonians right on the border are looking for glory hills with suck-off dudes. - Yeah, that's true. - Like, Ari Maddie says like a lot of them are like, that's like their main. It's hot springs or whatever, hot baths, and glory hills suck-offs. - Yeah, it is a place where men get into saunas with each other, so. - It is kind of an ideal location. - I didn't even connect it to just right now. - Yeah. - Wow, okay, so go ahead. - Yeah, so, you're on this line, and it takes like eight hours. I finally get to like the Estonian side of the border, and they take-- - Wait. - Yeah, go ahead. - You're coming from Russia into Estonia? - No, from Estonia into Russia. - So what do you mean you get to the Estonian part of the border? You get-- - Like the Estonian Russian border, just like this line is just so long. So you get up to the line. - Yeah, the actual like passport control customs. - Yeah, eight hours. - Yeah, and so the Estonians take me into a room, and they want to interrogate me, but like not in the way you might expect. They're like, listen, we don't think you should go to Russia. We've heard reports that foreigners, you're American. They get to like the other side of the border, and then the Russians just keep them there for like 24 hours, asking questions, trying to verify them. We recommend you don't go. Now, retroactively, I might have taken that offer. Nothing happened at this particular spot, but-- - Can I critique the Estonian border, but police for a second? - Go ahead. - You wanna have that talk before the eight hour wait. Once you're invested through an eight hour wait, you've heard this? - No, no, I agree with this. - Oh yeah, I feel you. - Yeah, then it's like, no, dude, I already put in a lot of time here. If you say, hey, first of all you shouldn't go there, it's bad news, whatever. Also, you've got eight hours before you're even allowed to like figure out if you go there. That's when you go, you know what, maybe fuck it. - Yeah, no, no joke. Seriously, I thought like I've invested too much into this. Like-- - This is how I feel like high level nightclubs in Berlin when they get there, and if you're just like this, the bike obviously, no, but they make you wait in line for three hours to get to the top and they go, no. And you're like, you couldn't have seen me in line back there with my propeller hat, go, hey you, zero chance. You may as well just go enjoy your night. - Fucking Germany. - Fucking Germany. - I thought they got rid of the rules. - Yeah. - Refugees welcome, but not in line at Berkeley. - I thought they got rid of the lines, and like-- - So go ahead, so yeah, so they tell you not to go, but you're like, I'm fucking, I'm going. - Yeah, yeah. - I was just like, yeah. So yeah, then there's like this bridge that separates Estonia from Russia. Across the bridge, weirdly, the Russian side goes very smoothly, it's very fast. There's like one Russian border guard who's like, you have Kamara? Let me see Kamara. Looks out for like two seconds, gives it back. You're like, welcome to Russia. And that was it. I was like, is it really, were they lying about this in the West? Like, is it really that easy? - I know that bridge is cold. - What's that? - Do you know what the bridge is cold? - Uh, friendship bridge. - The city is Narva. So it might be the friendship bridge. I don't know. Yeah, that must be it, the friendship bridge. There you go. - Wow. - Yeah, this is the main route in Russia. - 'Cause this is sound friendly at all. - Not a lot of friendliness on that border now. - Okay, so you take your camera? - Yeah, just for like two minutes or something. Not threatening at all. - Just look through it or just looking at it. - He literally just looks at it. - Okay. - Doesn't even look like, ah, do you have anything bad on there? - Yeah. - And this is, I had heard like, obviously, something crazy was going to happen. Russia's the number one of the repressive regimes. Not in terms of like total quality, but like they're the gold standard for. - Yeah, they're good at it. - No rights, you don't know what you're allowed. - Yeah. - The military and the police can do whatever they want to you. - They can. - They're the kings. - Yeah, yeah, no, they're very good at that shit. - You're in the fucking show right now. You're in the NBA of this. (laughing) - They've been developing this system for like 100 years. So anyway, like I crossed to the country and like I said, nothing bad happens. I'm just like, wow, Russia's kind of cool. I go to St. Petersburg. It's awesome. I'm just like, I mean, it's difficult like in Russia because of the sanctions. You don't know how to like use money. You have to like bring dollars and euros into the country and then like exchange it and then get a bank account and then you gotta set that up. It's like a bit of a learning curve, but once I figured that out, I was like, wow, this is cool. Go to Moscow. Again, fucking awesome time. And then I just started taking the train across the country and just stopping in all these little cities, having a really cool trip. - This is what real travel, not real travel, it's a bad word. But like this is what the kind of travel when you're like long-term traveling. It's just like you just stop in a random city. - Yeah. - It's not about going and not seeing like fucking Kremlin. - Yeah. - It's just stopping in a random city. - This is what it's all about. - Yeah. - You know, just stopping in a random place be like what's going on here. So, my goal was to get to the other side of Russia, this place called Vladivostok, which is like the far eastern side of Russia. - Yeah. It's right on the border with North Korea and China. That's how big Russia is. - And you gotta go up over and around. - Yeah. So, it's a little bit convoluted eventually I cross into Kazakhstan, go through China, and then come back into Russia. - Oh, that's how you did it. - Yeah. And so. - Wow, so you cut through. - I pointed out it's like this side. - Okay. - Or I went back in. And that's where the problems started. - Because. - So, do you know you're crossing over the border again? - Yeah. - Doesn't China have good relations with them though? - The Chinese gave me no problems. I mean, I've had, like a few running Chinese police, but nothing like this. At the Chinese customs, I just like, yeah, waves me through. But then on the Russian side, it is very unusual for an American to be crossing that border. Like a match. - From China into-- - Basically like our two-- - Wait, you went to Kazakhstan and then through China? - Yeah. - So all the way through China. - Yeah, that's-- - So you skipped-- - You've like gotten a Russia there and collected from most of them. - Yeah. - Wow. - That's the trip that Connor, me and small brain American did. - Did together? - Yeah. And then of course, I kind of did this one on my own. Decided to go back into Russia. Yeah, no, like, so going back into Russia from there, it's just very weird for an American to be crossing. And like, I kind of thought about that. I was like, yeah, I probably look like a fucking spy right now. Like, trying to cross in and like, "Should I be doing this?" But I, you know, I got this little trip. It was so great the last time I had no problems. - Yeah. - And immediately like, at this border already, like the Russian border police are taking me for extra questioning. I get an interrogation for like two hours. And this time they do like the full deal. They're like-- - Then these are like soldiers? - I think they're either border police or possibly like KGB. Yeah, yeah, exactly. That's exactly it. Yeah, that's what they're trying. - Okay. - I think some of them might have wanted it also. I think, you know, it's a little unclear, you know. - You guys did this whole trip together. That's really cool though. - Yeah. - The cool friendly thing to do. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. You mean the one through Kazakhstan? - Yeah, I mean, all of it. - Oh, no, that was awesome. Yeah, that whole thing. That was cool. - Yeah. - Yeah, that was a joke. But this is actually like, that sounds like a sick trip. Like, do we guys already friends at that point? - Yeah, yeah. Whoa, we became friends. - We're friendly. - Yeah, we weren't like that friendly yet. - But this, I mean, how long was this trip? - Through China, end up being about like 20 days? - Yeah, so that's it. Now you're friends. - Yeah, no, sure. When you travel with somebody like that, you either hate them or you'll become friends for life. - Yeah, you really can easily hate them. - Yeah, yeah. And if I don't like a person and I don't travel with them, I will find the excuse to get off it, you know. - It's so hard to get away. - Yeah. - So we're both like, well, we're going on this hike for 48, like we're both going to the same place. - Oh, it's a hike, dang it, that's good. - Nothing else is happening. We're stopping day to day or on this thing. If it's a group, sure, you can just like, I'm out. That guy's annoying me too much. - Yeah. - But like, you're just stuck with them and you realize, oh, I hate them. - Yeah, yeah, no, those are the worst. - And then you're like, I just gotta make it to the end. And then at the end, like, all right, I'm going to another country, I'll see you. - Yeah. - Where you're going, see ya. That would happen to me more often when I studied abroad in college, and you just get paired up with these people that you don't know that you hate, but they're just annoying. And they're just complaining about shit. That's really not that bad. I can't get my favorite cereal here in Hong Kong. I'm like, all right, try being in China. - The McDonald's is too far away. - Yeah. - Don't go at all. - Yeah. It's just stuck with plenty of stuff. - Yeah. - So. - Where did you guys meet here and then went together? Or did he went from, he wasn't there at the Stoney and Border with you? - No, this was a way after that. This was, there's a little country there called Kurgistan. Awesome country, by the way, heavily recommended. - Okay. - And yeah, we just agreed to meet up there in like this place.
called, when are we going to meet up at Bishkek, we're in Osh. Please call it Osh. - Where is that Romania, no? - Nice, Kergistan. - Wait, is this the trip that we're talking about, or is this another trip? - This is the trip that we did across China, and we started there. We crossed into China from there. - So this is not the one you went from China to a lot of us started? - It's a bit confusing, but afterward, I go into Russia. - Okay. - 'Cause I'm like, it was part of a bigger trip I was doing across Eurasia. I started off in Ireland, and I wanted to eventually make it all the way to Eastern Russia. I was going to end the trip there. It was like ocean ocean, Atlantic Ocean to Pacific Ocean. - Cool. - Yeah. - Very cool. - Yeah. Ended up having to finish it in Japan instead, but, yeah. - So what happens, so you're at the border and then what? - Yeah, so at that border, they start interrogating me for two hours, and it's time they're like-- - You're American in China coming into Russia? - That'll do it. - They must've been like, "Look, I'm sure China didn't stop you, but we are." - Yeah, yeah. They were like, well, they, I mean, honestly, they don't trust the Chinese either. So. - Oh, interesting. - Yeah, that's like kind of hush hush, but not all. - Yeah, that's not publicized. - Yeah, they kind of, there was an interrogation later on where I could tell they were trying to find out if I was a Chinese spy. Like, they were like, you speak Mandarin? - Do you? - Yeah. - I lived in China. (laughs) Yeah, like I said, I'm pretty weird, but like, I did live in China for a while, and you kind of need it. Not a lot of English spoken in China, I'm not in trouble. (laughs) I just like languages, so, oh my god, I'm gonna learn that shit. So, but in Russia, that's pretty weird. They're like, that's very suspicious. We just imagine Americans do all these big English. What's going on with that? So they start asking for my phone, and I wanna see the hidden photos folder, and I'm like, oh, no. - Come on, that's my nudes. - Yeah, come on, bro. - Come on, bro. - Let's see it out, let's come on. It's like, don't delete them at least. - Yeah. - I gotta use that later, but I have a-- - Raise your tipped-picks folder. - Right, exactly, please, please. And then, like, I get the phone back like two hours later, and that's like open, and I'm like, guys, what were you doing with this shit? Like, I think you left that open. - I'm hardening the good ones. - It took like pictures of shit, they're like, oh. - They just-- - Porn is blocked in Russia right now. - They kept taking screenshots of the view with those two black chicks in 10th of the year. - I don't have that, I don't know how to talk about it. So, yeah, they just asked me, and it's just a real experience, by the way, 'cause like, there's this one KGB dude, who's just like, you have a YouTube channel? Okay, can you sign like an autograph? I want to give it to my girlfriend. I'm like, that's weird. 'Cause they have a YouTube show. You're not a fan, just like, have a YouTube channel. - Yeah, he doesn't know who the hell I am, but he's just like, you have a YouTube channel. You're American. That's kind of cool. - Wow. - I'm gonna take your signature. I mean, everybody, the rest of the dudes were pretty serious, but this one guy was like, guys, he was like, the nice guy. He's like, guys, come on. He's like a YouTube guy, like, you know, relax. - He's a good guy, you know? - Yeah, and so they kind of, this was more like, they're breaking my balls, but they eventually let me in. Are they aggressive at you? Or are they like, like, they're being mean and tough? Like, you shut up, you sit there or like, all right, we gotta talk to you. - They're not like horrific. They're not like smacking me around or something, but they're pretty stern, you know? Like, the fault Russian expression is pretty stern, you know? - Yeah, right, right. - They don't really smile a lot. - Yeah. - It said they smile if they like you or something, but-- - You know, I was smart. - You see their chicks, I wouldn't smile either. (laughs) - But, yeah, they're just like, asking me these questions. There's probably like a set list of questions I have to ask. And we just go through the list. And finally, they just, after a while, they're like, "Okay, you go in." And I thought, like, that was the end of it. I thought everything was cool. - Yeah, it sounds like it. - So it was the end of it? - But from that point forward, I started to get worried. I was like, whoa, this is, this is the shit they tell me about. So, just a couple of days later, I take the train again, and I show up in this place called the Jewish Oblast. I don't know if you've ever heard of this. There is-- - This city? - This was one of the places they originally proposed to be the site of Israel. And it's kind of wild. It's just like Russia. - You lay the fuck over here, like in Eastern Russia. - Siberia. And they're just like, we're just gonna give this land to the Jews. We like the Jewish state. Yeah, there you go, that's the name of it. - That's the region, the Jewish. - See, they got like a little synagogue thing. - Oblast. - Yeah. - Why are there a lot of Jews there? - No, I think they all left, unsurprisingly. But they still have, like, yeah, little architecture like that, like a little synagogue and stuff. - Oh. - I thought it would be kind of interesting to visit. - Yeah. - But if anyone is watching this and considering going there, my advice would be, do not go to that place. - Because they did not. - Why? - Do not go to that place, 'cause they have police that really don't trust foreigners. And they're like really hoping to get like a spy. So in this region, a little did I know, there's like a law in Russia that you cannot be within 20 miles of a border. - And I get-- - Really? 20 miles? - Yeah. - What if you're, oh, there's no border towns? There are border towns. This is why it gets really confusing. So I got arrested for that at some point. - For being within 20 miles of a border. - Yeah. - That's a lot of miles. - Yeah, it's a very, it's a wide area. And yeah, there you go, they got fish. - Yeah. - It might be irradiated, but. - Check stuff in their cell phones, I'm gonna see. - Yeah. So I got stopped. That law, if you got arrested for that, it's not-- - What border are you next to? China? - Still China. - Yeah. - Namangolia. - Namangolia, yeah. It's like that little thing right there. - This little. - No, like the other side. - So it's up here. - Yeah, right there. - Yes, it's just China. - Where they used to put the juice. And-- - I mean, they must have swarmed that fence to China every Christmas. (laughing) They must have really, we gotta get out of here. Just one day, we'll come back. - Yeah, it's a pretty wild region. Like you actually had both like Jews and just Russians trying to escape the Soviet Union. And they'd go into China. And so like up until World War II, they would actually hang out in that region of China. This is a place called Harbin. - Harbin. - Harbin. - Okay. - Yeah. And they still have like these like synagogues and Russian stuff in that city. But then like World War II happens, the Japanese came and they're like, "All right, maybe we'll go somewhere safer now." - Hold on, I want to see the Chinese restaurants here. Think they do. - If I remember right, I can't remember. - It must be one. - It's very with the border. - Yeah. Come on, do it there. Why don't they fucking do this? What's the name of the place called? - You could type in a place called Lennon Scoyue, which is like Lennon, then SKOE. Yeah, there you go. Okay, right there. - That is also where I got arrested. - No, okay, so what happened? - Anyway, I get arrested. And it's supposed to just be like basically like a $5 fine. It's like one of those things where they're just like, don't do that again. Or maximum like a 48 hour like jail sentence, like in the local town jail or whatever. So, but that one gets more intense also. - Why? - Because, I don't know like how this happens, but somebody like in the KGB, they're called the FSB now, gets informed that there's an American on the border with China, and they show up, and then that's where things get wild. Because they start interrogating me, they start giving me the whole thing. Like, why are you here? Why do you know these languages? - I think people are not joking. - Oh, these are, they are not fucking around at all. These are the super serious people. And it was like one dude in particular, you could just tell like this dude was trying to like, move up the ladder, you know, like he wanted to get this. He wanted like an American spy right there. - That's a get. - Yeah, like that's like, he's getting like move the Moscow. - Yeah, that's 63 homeruns. - Yeah, exactly. So, yeah, they're just, they're not fucking around. They like film the whole thing, they're taking notes. And it just, things just get progressively shittier. Like, they start, they're like, oh hey, Thomas, we need to drug test you. So, we're gonna take you to this hospital. That's like a couple hours away. Not sketchy at all. They, they drug test me. And this is horrifying, by the way. The test throws like a false positive for meth, which as fucked up as I am, I've never taken meth before. - Oh buddy, you got it, you're fast. - You think you like weed. - Yeah, I know. - I'm not. - I know. - You're gonna take it to the Orgboos London sky at the TARB hospital? - No, no, they don't have a real hospital in that town. They go to-- - I'll picture this one, so I don't think it's not. - Yeah, there's like a bigger city in that old blast. I forgot the name of it, but the hospital is there. - Wow. - Yeah. And so I'm thinking like-- - That's a, that's a made up file.
That's not even a thing when I'm thinking they literally just like plant the drugs on me or something and I'm starting to get scared of shit So I think you just hold you. Yeah, yeah, he did drugs here. We got a fucking deal with them Yeah, cuz I think almost every rush American held in Russia story starts off with like Oh, yeah, they found like weed or something. They found like a pen They found like whatever pretty grinder. Yep. Yep. She's give us a reason. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I was really worried about getting grinders So Did your black already quit with the weed be careful. It's not when I'm not saying it's bright that this happens, but Black with weed and in Russia. Yeah, what a fucking cool chick. Yeah I mean come on now. Yeah, that that was good. Hi. That was a bit much So so they're fucking false positive on meth Yeah, yeah, and then they send me back to like the jail and they're saying oh don't worry Everything will be over soon. I'm just sure This gets even crazier. They so remember like the initial charge is just like 48 hours So for what for being near the border within 20 miles of the border So they can't hold me for more than 48 hours according to their law so they actually let me out according to their law. Yeah, it's like Yeah, they let me out and I have like this big relief. I'm like. Oh, this is over great What they do is After I had to like pay this fine. They're like, okay, listen, you got to get back to the town where you left your passport and because I had it Like an Airbnb and I left everything in there So we're gonna like get this taxi for you and they're gonna take you back and I get in this taxi that they got for me And it's really weird. It's like this lady who's not making eye contact with me like the The dashboard mirror is like angled in a way. I can't see what's behind me and He just like drive me back in silence. It's like really creepy We finally get back to Like the capital of the Jewish old blast The place where I left all my stuff and they literally had to set up like a sting operation for me Like I'm not kidding like what like six police officers. We're just like waiting for me at this Airbnb and There's a guy already filming There's like they found like a translator to like yell stuff at me and then they like Basically say listen you refuse to give your passport. So we got to take you back to the police station. I Get wait Yeah But you're like no, let me just get my passport for you I it all happened like so quickly and they did this by design Yeah, obviously, they don't actually want me to get the passport. That's so crazy You're like okay, I'm going to get it and they stopped you and go well you're not giving it to us break down How it went so you get out of the cab and then and then what happens? I get out of the cab and they actually drag me out of it So you're like getting out and just they all swarm you and like grab you they all swarm me Yeah, they treat me like a criminal and Yeah, again, this is again freaky. So They claim because immediately the next day like a trial is set up what not scary at all what and I get you know shuttered in there and I find out at that trial like I am on trial because I did not present my passport and my YouTube videos were offensive to Russia so and the trial was over in like five seconds What they're like here the charges to charge go ahead and do it. Yeah, I wasn't giving a lawyer You know actually as possible to have a lawyer in Russia. I found that out later, but you know, they kind of didn't really make that obvious. Yeah, I Don't know if the lawyer can actually solve it, but you can't have one So yeah, and what is one of the scariest moments of my life? They're just like okay, you got to go to jail now and the sentence was for 15 days in like actual kind of like light prison and They also gave me like this giant fine that I was supposed to pay like for the YouTube videos Just having them in the past. Yeah, yeah, because I had released a couple videos of my Russia trip Which from that trip on like wall on that trip? Yeah, and keep in mind like like I said I had an amazing time in like Moscow and stuff. So I'm just showing like hey guys look Moscow It's kind of fun. Yeah, kind of the same video like looking go to grocery store and get this. Yeah, yeah, not exactly what you think Yeah, they were just looking for an excuse because like I had something in the description of the video like Yeah, everybody thinks about like the invasion of Ukraine, but you know what's actually going on in Russia and they're just like he called it an invasion That was stupid of me. Oh for sure, but you would not have even thought of that. It's just what it's called here. Yeah, yeah I supposed to call it the special military operation. I fucked up Wow, you didn't get the memo. No, no So like and again, this all happens super quickly They put me in a van. I get sent to a prison like immediately and Imagine you could imagine what I'm thinking at this point. I'm like I'm about to be on the news. You know, like I'm about to be one of those people like they got in American like they're gonna like set me up for something It was like scary as hell. So The census was like four 15 days So I thought maybe it's gonna be over like a 15 days like maybe The problem is this the FSB like the KGB keeps coming back with like these requests They're like we need to take him to be drug tested again We need to like take his luggage to check it for drugs And I'm like Jesus Christ. They're trying to find something. They had on yeah. Yeah, yeah, maybe they're trying to plan something Yeah, I did like the drug testing would be like no, I've been in your custody. There's no way I could do anything Yeah, but then on your on your in your luggage is a good way to do it It's like yeah, this we didn't know now we know. Yeah, that was I think that was the one they were hoping for they really thought they're gonna get me with that shit because You know like when you check into the prison you have to like I still had like you know my bag I carry around when I'm traveling so they have like a room. You're like supposed to leave all your belongings and stuff So as I'm checking that in again, it's almost like a sting operation like all these like KGB guys show up and they're like okay We have him now. Let's take a picture. It's like one of those pictures You know they were preparing to like put in the newspaper some shit like that. Did you smoke weed and Russia? Oh, fuck no Fuck no, you get it presented to you at all No, no, but I do have an interesting story about that inside the jail. Okay, keep going. Yeah So they take the luggage they have me sign all this stuff They take this picture and I at this point. I think I'm fucked. They're just they're gonna fucking do something I'm gonna be in jail for like 10 years or something my life is over fucking scary Thankfully, I am not stupid enough to do drugs in Russia or China, which was the last place I was in yeah Had nothing questionable. I've done marijuana and cocaine in China Impressive it. Thank you, impressive. I'm like my coke guy. I have never done any drugs in China. Okay. Oh, yeah Oh, yeah, yeah, just want to put that out there Anyway, I did not sleep for like four days. I think in this prison. Yeah, no, you what's the prison like you didn't take your pictures of that Yeah, I didn't get to what's it like sell just so if I go sell room It's the only good thing is like because Basically everyone like all the men are like being shipped off to like war whatever or and there's just like a lot of migration from these areas to Moscow Yeah, there's very few people. There's very few criminals. So I had at first like a jail cell to myself nice Yeah, it's not too small. Yeah, did everything to do but like I had a lot of space to walk around and what There's like like just buy your stuff. Do you have a book? That's kind of funny like The only book I had was like an English textbook made for like Russian fifth graders Because I asked this translator. Do you have any books you can give me to read like well, I'm in there He's just like okay. Yeah, it was nice like trying to find something. That's like all she had at least in English So eventually I got like a dictionary of like Russian to English or English The Russian and I was like using that to learn Russian while there. So I was like. Yeah, what's the word for don't beat me? Please please no more. Please. I'm not a spy Yeah, so I start off there. It's like the over punish you for being a spy. You're just not a spy Yeah, so it's like this isn't even like the wrong response. I'm just not a spy. Yeah, yeah, no exactly It's it's kind of a binary thing It's just I'm not I don't work for the CIA So yeah, I'm in the cell. It's um, I don't know what like prison cells and other countries are like but in Russia They have like this big like red light above the door that stays on the whole time So it's just like always light in the room. Yeah, so that I guess they have like a security camera and they want to see what you're doing all the time And there's just like always somebody going by watching what you're doing. There's like a smelly toilet in the room There's like a little desk thing and then they'll bring you like food a couple of times a day Yeah, prison stuff they don't let you out
that often they'll let you out into like this little like it's like their version of the yard is just like this kind of like cage thing yeah and it's like about outside or outside it's about as big as this room okay even smaller yeah and they just put you out there and they say yeah you can walk around for it but this is outside yeah in a cage and this was a Russian winter so of course it's snowing it's like horrific what are you wearing did they give you a jump suit on your own clothes no they actually I don't know if they did this to save money or it's just like a thing but they you wear your own clothes okay they'll check it first to make sure you can't like I don't know shank somebody or like the strangle somebody with like the cords on your sweatshirt but I had like one sweatshirt and that was my coat and I'm just like of course like you're in there like the whole day so you're like desperate to get out there for anything so I'm like okay yeah fuck it I'll walk around a cage for like an hour yeah yeah anyway like the weird thing with like the weed is like after a day because they initially they tell me like it's not gonna be so bad you're gonna be by yourself you know I'm gonna have like your own gel cell the second day without warning they just like move me to another cell with like this Russian guy who's like in his 50s he was there for drugs I think and this guy I mean he's a nice guy in everything no problems whatsoever but and I didn't even think about this at the time but he would ask me like these weird questions like just completely nowhere you just be like Thomas let's talk about drugs you know have you ever done weed you know what do you think about weed just like it this way that I'm like why are you asking this like this is kind of weird yeah and like the trick you yeah some people think like this guy was planted there or had like an agreement yeah a hundred percent yeah yeah I like either he was already in general drugs like well it's off easier if you get info out of him or I think he's just in the FSB yeah like we're gonna dress you like what we think a drug dealer might look like yeah put you in there my bet is like he might have been there yeah for like the initial charges and they're like yeah we'll make this agreement with you and like you know bring us the big white well yeah bring the American the very American well yeah but um thankfully like would you say to him yeah they play like I mean you know I had not again I had not done drugs like on that trip like they'd be insane and I was like no no I've never done weed in my life no why would I do that you know I'm just saying I don't like it you know I don't like you just said no I'd not even like I haven't in a while just I've never done yeah I didn't even want a risk saying in a way like oh you know maybe when I was like younger you know in America no I was just like that's everybody's mistake yeah being more asked you would even need to be you don't need to tell them anything yeah when they cops in the movies like we'll go easier on you if you're like they it's not even up to them how easy they go on you yes the courts so just go like nope didn't like that's a joint in your hand like I it's not mine like you're alone like and it's not mine I don't know never seen it yeah enough real it's just you know say what you got to say yeah you know like don't say any more than you need to say I should say so yeah I'm just like no I don't did drugs of course not drugs are bad yeah okay and uh time passes again it's like 15 days and eventually like the luggage that they took it comes back you know just of course the police don't come back and like bring it back they just like bring it back with like a note and it says everything's okay you can have your stuff back and after 15 days you would have 15 days 15 days yeah yeah so in a prison yeah this is like 17 days in total with a cage like walls just like the regular prisons where you can hold on in America which is just a room it's it looks kind of more like an insane asylum it's just like this big iron door and there's like a little opening that they'll open up and be like step back yeah and then you get food exactly one of those or if they need to yell at you that'll say something so yeah where's our gun so yeah if after 15 days KGB shows up the hand me a piece of paper and they're just like we want you to sign this this basically says you're gonna be deported and you're gonna leave the country for five years you're not allowed to come back what yeah and at that point I was like I guess that's the best I could help for right now cuz yeah don't want to be here on any other charge they kicked you out yeah they kicked me out and even that was stressful cuz like even after I get out because eventually like with some friends help I eventually get a lawyer and the lawyer like appeals like the whole thing but you can't actually appeal it you know it's not yeah this is you know like this is not something they're not they're not gonna allow you to lose not gonna allow you to win this oh you should do info yeah yeah I had this lawyer who actually like looked at the case report and he's just like they actually made like a fucked on a mistakes but like it was just unwinnable yeah wow so even after I got out they were like we can't let you leave until you like formally lose this case like your appeal so they brought me back to the court and I had to like spend another day in that town just like losing this case all over again the capital of the Jewish oblast which I think is I forget the name it but it's it might just be called like the capital of the Jewish oblast oh that's what it's called yeah beer will be John wow yeah it's uh they got that I got the Lenin's a little sin and God of course the Lenin so the let you out then you get to your appeal and then they go like all right beat it what do they say after that so after they finally have me lose the appeal they're kind of just they don't like say like you got to get out but it's like implicitly known like I got to get out you gotta yeah the problem is yeah the problem is like because I was just in like prison I overstayed my visa and so that becomes a new problem and I got to go find the way to like get my visa canceled say that I overstayed and get like a new exit visa that would allow me to leave the country so I spent like the whole night doing that trying to get that set up it's like very nerve reckoning so I'm like are they gonna try to like use this to arrest me again yeah like I finally come back the next morning get the visa and then I just like book it I'm like I pay like the first tax I could find like take me to like the nearest big city which is called Havarovsk it's one of the biggest cities over there and they had a flight that day to like this random city in China and I'm just like fuck it I am on that flight yeah so I like got the ticket booked everyone on that flight is like a chat is like a Chinese worker that had been in Russia working on some project and they're just going home yeah and uh really yeah oh that's like the like Mexican immigrants yeah exactly okay yeah it was kind of like that although I don't know it's not exactly like that I think they brought the Chinese over because they're just like maybe they're better workers we trust them to build this shit more remember crazy people the more crazy people yeah yeah we're totally more maybe it was just like an advertising agency yeah those he's nuts he like losses mine so then he started doing like real advertising yeah and he goes he was talking about Japanese cars like it's Sony products like their engineers are shorter so they can get closer to the product yeah exactly yeah it's uh yeah we just we like them better um whoa yeah so that was the and then you got over the border of China okay yeah that was the happiest flight of my life yeah I get oh my god yeah man like when you land you're like thank you for not turning this around yeah yeah yeah there's like this you're seeing the last king of Scotland uh that's actually about Uganda with the with the cross-eyed guy yeah yeah yeah exactly that dude yeah but like at the end of the movie like the dude has been like tortured and he's like trying to get out of the country and he just miraculously gets on this flight that's like leaving and he's just like looking out the window like oh thank god yeah that's how I felt yeah I like the whole time I thought for sure I'm fucked political prisoner yeah those those guys we they came back like in North Korea like we'll give you back brain dead yeah wait for a while then if we have to give you back yeah yeah because it 100% look like that kind of situation I might have I'm not even doing anything yeah I even pulled out a poster yeah yeah I mean I might have got lucky cuz like I was literally in there I'm lucky like I mean not in that sense but in the sense that the election happened like while I was there which election you know the only election that matters like the US election okay and so Trump literally gets elected and the whole time I'm in the prison the the warden and like the officials they don't speak a lot English but they're like Trump victory we want Trump to win they like Trump they like Trump they in Russia they think Trump is like favorable why to Russia I mean I guess like
He came off that way, right, right, right, right. I mean, he comes off as like a fair negotiator, like with Ukraine, I don't know what it is exactly, but it's possible that helped, 'cause they're just like, we don't want to piss off Trump like by like arresting another American now. This is like really bad timing, right. So they're just like, you know, it's just deported. You know, let's just get him out of here. - You've been deported. - Yeah, yeah. - Was there any thought you had of like, well, now that I'm out, I want to stay. Or are they like, you're going? - No, there was zero. That I wanted to stay there. There was like, I hope to go back to Russia someday. Like I said, are you afraid now that like, I'm in the system now. - I mean, there's a lot of awesome people in Russia. Like before this, I had an awesome time, but that was fucking scary. Might be the scariest thing that ever happened to me in my life. - Oh my God. - And I'm gonna wait like a decade or something, minimum. - I forgot the five years. - I might just not go back. - Yeah. - I mean, I get wanting to go as other places to go where they might not be like, if he comes back, grab him for sure. - Yeah, yeah. - They said, do they say don't ever come back? Or do they say? - No, they didn't say that. - You just have to leave. - Officially, they say you're a band for five years. - Five years, okay. - But-- - And that's in writing. - It isn't writing, yeah. - When you're in the prison, the question is, what do they feed you? How often do they feed you? That's one question. And where'd you shit and piss? - So you have like a toilet right in the room? - In your, okay. - Yeah, so you gotta like do that in front of like your cellmate and everything. Got like a little shitting sink. - You get the shit in front of them? - Yeah. - Pissing I get, just turn your back, but. - Yeah, yeah, you get used to it. You have like conversations. - Oh, yeah. - I'd be like, come on man. You're like, I got a shit, like it stinks. - Yeah, yeah. There's a way you can angle yourself. The view of the bunk bed, yeah. - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah, the food would come in. The food was surprisingly like actually not that bad. - Oh, okay. - Yeah, they'd give you like bread. Russian bread is not bad. They'd give you like this soup and stuff. So you just mix the soup with the bread and like yeah, you're really okay. It's one of the few things to look forward to. - Was it, and how often do they come? - They gave you three meals of that. - Three squares. - Yeah, three squares. Did they, was it good? - Some of them were pretty nasty. Like it'd be like this weird meat dish, like ground up meat or whatever. But when it was like the soup and the bread. - Yeah. - 'Cause like, that's the one thing that cooked really well. Like soup, borsh, you know, that kind of thing. - Oh yeah, good point. So when you like take some whatever, where you're like, that's good. - Yeah. - Oh, okay. - The only problem was, like when I first got there, again, thinking back to like what happens to like people in prison in Russia, I was like, what if they poisoned me? Like I seriously had this thought. I was like, what, maybe I should not eat the food, you know? - Whenever I feel like that, I feel like it's like a horror movie where like the monster gets like warm and powerful. Like, what if they poisoned me? Like, okay, but so if I don't eat the food. - Yeah. - They're just gonna find another way to kill me. - Right, right. - You know, it's not like they tricked you into, let's take you into the woods. Like, I'm not going with you. Like, then I'll shoot you here. - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah. It took me a little while to calm down on that. But like the next day when they moved me to the cell with the other dude, and he's just like, you know, eating it, no problem. I was like, okay, I'll rescue it. I'm hungry. - Was it filling? - Pretty much, after more or less, I mean like, yeah, I could have eaten more calories. I'm a really skinny dude, like I can eat a lot, but it was all right. And you are able to get stuff into the cell if somebody brings it and then they vet it. - Yeah. I don't like, in my luggage I had like a few random stuff, like oatmeal. - So you asked to have it? - Yeah, I asked to have it. And they give it to you like a day later, or something, after checking it. - So what did you do to make oatmeal in the soup? Did you get hot water? - Yeah, they'd give you hot water. - Could you get coffee? - They would give you one glass of coffee a day. So there's that. - It's all very interesting. I wouldn't have, I could see it going any which way. By the truth, you're very well, or like, now that star of you, you get a cockroach if you can catch it. - Right. - This is not like, this was prison, but they basically have like, I guess like a light version for like the light offenders. And then they have like, the gullog prison where it's like, you're six dudes to a cell. You're doing hard labor and whatnot. - That's what Posey Riot went to like a gullog. - Yeah. - Where eventually their relatives like, we don't know where they're at. - I believe the Wall Street Journal guy, that guy arrested, he was sent to like a, more of a gullog prison. - Guillog is a terrible name. It's a pretty nasty sound in there. So if they actually got me for drugs, that's where I was going. Like for sure. - Yeah. - That's where I would have been. - Damn. All right. - Oh, that note. - So those are the pretty much the places you got in trouble with the law. - Yeah, yeah. - I do. - There's a few more, but. - What else you got? - Breeze through 'em. - I'll breeze through 'em real quickly. - Yeah, 'cause that was the most intense. I went through the most recent. So you could argue the other ones were actually not as bad as those two. So there was one time I was in Kenya. This is kind of wild. And it's innovative. - Keep in mind, audience, he goes to a lot of places. So this is a small percentage of the places he's been. - Yeah. - Where he's got in trouble. - I get around for better or worse. Kenya, which is right next to Tanzania. - I'm in like a mobasa. - You got a check thing for sure. Anyway, go ahead, you're in mobasa. - You ever heard of mobasa? - Yeah, pretty good. - It's not like the coast. It's a pretty cool city, but after this, I won't be going back. They have like this, it's a Muslim city. It's supposed to be a Muslim city, but there's like a church. So like, I don't know, for my video, I'm just filming random stuff. And because I film this church, they're like, why is a white guy filming a church in mobasa? This is weird. It's supposed to be a terrorist. So get stopped for that. I get asked for like four hours. Like, yeah, you must be a terrorist, right? There was this other, weirdly, there was like this other white lady from England that went to Kenya and then joined just like Somali terror group. It's like the most random thing. I don't know if you heard of it, but it's like, yeah, this is like this lady. And she looks literally like a female virgin of me. - I mean, you just got it. When you see those stories, no, you just, you got to get dicked right. You got to get one good dick in. And I'm sorry that you haven't had one in a while, but that's definitely the result of that. - And like, she was going to Africa. You would think, like-- - That's what she's going for a good dick in. - But no, she just, she goes to join a terror group. Like, she did it all wrong. - Terrorized that pussy is what you should have wanted. - Exactly. - So my terror is as pussy. - Yeah, so she fucked it up for all of us. - Yeah. - For everybody. - So they, what did they do? - That was another one of those situations where I was like, "When do I give the bribe?" You know? I just like, and it's like after four hours, they finally start saying like, "Maybe you could buy us dinner and everything." And like, at that point, I was like, "Can I go now, though?" I'm like, "Do I still have to pay you?" Like, I don't know. I gave them the dinner money anyway. I don't want them to have an excuse that came me longer. So that was one, another one. And me and Connor actually went through this one together in China. We're up on the North Korean border. And. - Tense border? - Yeah, you know, just a relaxed one, you know? - Okay. - Are they cool with North Korea or no, no, no? - It's a weird relationship they have. They go from being like, really cool, like best communist friends forever. To like, we don't like Kim Jong-un. And we really wish he would step down so we're gonna put pressure on him. Anyway, there is this one part of the border where North Koreans like frequently cross 'cause like the river is very shallow. And it's not that like wide. And for most of the border actually, it's, parts of it are almost like a tourist attraction. You'll see like a bunch of Chinese tourists there taking pictures and stuff. This part of it is not. It's like, you're not supposed to be there. So they saw us taking pictures of like, this border outpost, immediately into a police van. They're asking like, what are you doing? You know, like show us the pictures. Okay, delete them. We just wanna let you know that this is not allowed in China. And basically what they're saying is like, you can delete the shit or you're going to Chinese prison. - I mean, of course I'll delete it. You're gonna delete a former, you have control of my phone. - Yeah, yeah. So I was appreciative at least they just gave me that option. Yeah, they didn't immediately go to like the stick. - Yeah, wow. - So yeah, we did that. They drove us back to our hotel. And we're just like, okay, we'll get out of here now. We're not gonna go back to that town. Yeah, yeah, it's just some. - It's like, you're not even doing anything. Usually it's like when I fear trouble, there was once in Indonesia, I was driving back and I met some people from, I don't know where, Seattle. - Yeah. - We hung out for a few days. You know, we just meet somebody and like, now we're friends for three days. - Natural. - And they had an Airbnb way up in the mountain. So I was like, up there and we got fucking lit up drunk. And I'm driving back in my mouth with no helmet drunk. And like, come up to a checkpoint for traffic. And I'm like, well, this is wild.
They I would go to I would go to jail justifiably. Yeah, you know driving drunk with no Like I should be in jail. Yeah, and I just get there on my play cool play cool, and then I get them like I go, yeah, okay, go ahead. I'm like But like you haven't done anything wrong in these places. Yeah Yes, you have it like pureed weed you haven't fucked a hooker You haven't stolen anything. I'm not saying I've never procured weed. Yeah, but that's not what you got in trouble for Sorry, I didn't mean to tell you You know, don't make me out to be on cool here, you know, but then none of these are what you're getting in trouble for Yeah, you're just getting like you look like I don't know you look like trouble to a cop. Yeah No, that is the crazy thing It's like and I like when I introduce these stories to people that I don't know and like I start saying like so when I went to prison I hold up and like let me clarify like I didn't actually do anything It's you gotta explain the whole thing. Yeah Not recommended bro, it's hilarious. All right. Well, do you have any tips for getting out of trouble if ever you're in these situations? so Yeah, I'm gonna as much as I hate to say this because I highly recommend going anywhere Yeah, I would even say you could still go to Russia, but only go to Moscow like just fly directly there That's worse. There's a lot of tourists exactly. That's where I expect you to go do not go anywhere like Don't get off the beaten path. That is not the country to do it. Interesting. That was stupid of me That's a good travel tip when going to Russia. Go with a tourist go don't call it to yourself like why would you be here? Yeah, yeah Russia Moscow, St. Petersburg. That's it China. Same thing China's a little more open, but um, you know, I've heard of a lot of ostok though You probably can go to a lot of ostok can't confirm it. Yeah, but it is a big city Probably could stay in the big cities and you'd be alright. Who's that period career? That's Japanese Japanese on school right up to Russia there um And then that island in in in the US that lasted like yeah, that's crazy That's way further west than most of that part of Russia. Yeah, I never realized that until recently I really got America all the way up to here. Yeah, I just went to Anchorage and and Okriabuk, the North and most talking to some like radio reporters nice and their station out there just doing reports on like fishing communities Yeah, but it's like a merit, but it's like it flights a cancel nonstop because everyone speaks Russian all the names are Russian. It's American It's a trippy thing. Yeah, it's so far out there, but to be honest, we those are some of my favorite places Yeah, like when you have like two like weird cultures like coming together You know like Mongolia is like that half China. Have you been Mongolia? I have been love Mongolia damn That's why I want I really want to go to you gotta do it. Yeah right a horse over there in the grasslands. Yeah, Genghis Khan style Yeah, start a new fiefdom, you know, just going to Vade China again I'm gonna pull out like a big speeder. I'm gonna come us up Genghis cock Yeah, and I'll see if I can take over. Yeah, that's all you got to do Where do you want to go? You haven't been is there any places calling you like I stuck out of fucking get there Oh for sure for sure I have this annoying ambition of getting to every country. Okay, I would love to just go everywhere This was gonna say before that guy that travel writer Rolf Pots Smallly brainy is gonna take his class is writing classes this summer and I've taken it and it just writer I know but he's like there's there's an idea called Psycho Geography just something to get you moving around Something so for Henry wrongs. It's going to record stores. Yeah, so he goes or rush Russia He's like let me find the local record shops. You just get you moving instead of like I don't know nothing Yeah, or you follow like When he's in Paris, so but like let me follow that black cap. It's everywhere and then just like take note of it right Getting every country's a great one. Yeah, which was like it'll make you go somewhere. Yeah, I don't know like why I have this But I don't know I just have like yeah, I just have like this insatiable urge to just keep moving like I get like Kind of bored from just in one place for too long. Yeah, I don't know if this will ever go away, but it's just fun It doesn't matter. Yeah, but does it doesn't survive. Yeah, and I don't know what I've maybe been to as of right now I think it's some like maybe 80 how many are there hundred and ninety-three officially Let me ask you a question about this then you want to go to every country. You're up to one seventy eight Yeah, and then the inevitable happens that Scotland breaks off from the UK and becomes their own country. Yeah, you've been to Scotland already Actually, haven't oh, but no, no, I get the hypothetical would you now have to go back to Scotland if you had already Oh, sure. I've got yeah, because like it wasn't a country before even though I've been there. Yeah, no This is probably literally happened for some people because you had like Sudan the broke off into South Sudan Uh-huh, and that's what that's a fucking war zone now, so like that's a little You're having to get there and like North Korea That's the hardest one actually North Korea. There's actually like this Conference that I went to and it's just for like all these crazy people that want to go to every country Yeah, and whenever I meet an American Often they'd have like 192 countries on their belt and the one they were missing was North Korea Because like it's actually illegal for Americans to go to North Korea buy our own government Like the US government said you cannot go to North Korea Or else we will arrest you in America when you come back going. Yeah, how many wrongs have been there Michael Malice just went We didn't episode about it. Oh nice like a Malice went they probably went back in the day Maybe yeah, because it's all happened after out of warm beer However you pronounce his name the dude that took down the poster when he came back whatever they're like, hey, no Yeah, fucking with us to yeah, when he came back. They probably went before that not conscious. Yeah Yeah, the US was like that's not acceptable. So we're not going to let anybody go to North Korea You could get in though It's possible you could do a border run at least from like from like China just like step over Would you count that for a place like that? I was looking for that, but you can't do that That is not a boring idea when you have these countries like I visited these countries do have a line of like that doesn't count Like if I'm in a layover in a country at the airport. I'm like, I'm not counting that. I don't count that shit But if you get out and like two hours in a place A couple days something eventful so you have to call it on your own like decide if this was a bentful or not Yes, it's tricky. I would say if you at least do something meaningful in that country make a memory Yeah, make a memory meet some people. I don't know. At least go to like a restaurant or something there Yeah, I used to say like a few days, but then I'm like I've had like a one day in a place where I've gone out drinking people gotten laid Got rushed back to the airport the next morning, and I was like I was there for like 11 hours But I did way more than I've done in place where I've been for four days. Yeah, so I'm like I'm gonna count that Yeah, no, you definitely can and then other places like airport hotel sleep leave and I'm like can I count that? Yeah I mean, I was in the Baltics right before Russia. Which is like those three little countries right on pop on the guinea Not quite the same one, but I have not been about the guinea I want to go Where's the Baltics where where you've been it's right next to Russia right next to St. Petersburg you see it over there Yeah, those three of these countries. It's not feeling but those three a little sloppy Lithuania Yeah, those all used to be part of the Soviet Union. Yeah, they're independent But anyway, I was going through those like real quick and but I still tried to like do something Yeah, you know hang out in Lithuania like see a museum Because you know that thing you know like I've been to every country of like you didn't go to one You like run in do it go out those these border runs. I'm kind of a purist I would say. Yeah, you know, like I don't want to be that guy. Yeah Yeah, so I'm even 80 something now. You got a long way to go. Yeah, no It's a while to go I'm like if there's one continent weirdly that I want to go to every country and it's Africa I actually really enjoy traveling in Africa. Well, it scares me Yeah, it's it's kind well it shouldn't but it really does well some countries could be pretty intense I'm not going to go there some countries you probably should not go unless you're trying to go to every country That's the thing I don't know the difference enough. I can tell way more even those way smaller in Europe I can tell way more the difference in country there than the difference in country can you Congo Central Africa and Chad like I don't know the details so that's what everyone does blend it all in the one one giant Comment yeah, but so that's what scares me a lack of information at any given time There's probably about five to ten wars going on in Africa you get a war lowered. Yeah, not great You just got to keep track of like where those are happening and don't go to those countries, you know Yeah, there's some countries that I would recommend for everybody Tanzania just don't take the buses there But Tanzania is great, you know, it's got Zanzibar's got beaches Russian women, you know, like it's a fun place They're going to East Timor. I have been East Timor. That is a cool one. That's a cool one. Let's do that our next time we do an episode I've been there too. We can both talk a lot about it. Hell yeah. That'd be a fun one. Yeah, speak Portuguese because nobody's been there Oh, yeah, I mean not nobody, but you know, I mean I know sure it's kind of a little thing There's not a lot of reason to go there. It's not it's really not, but that's why to go there. Yeah All right, well hell yeah Was there any other place you got in trouble you wanted to talk whether we forgot?
- No, I think those are the major ones. - Okay. - I've probably been arrested somewhere else. I'm losing track. - Have you ever been arrested in America? - I've been stopped by the cops. But it was like kind of like-- - For what? Having a black friend? (laughing) - Yeah, I was like college. Are you drinking in there? Are you being too loud? Like that kind of shit. - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's fine. It's part of growing up. That's almost the cops job. It's like, just put a little scar on them. - Yeah. - And then let them go, obviously. They don't do anything, but make sure they're scared. - Yeah, been stopped by like the border police and their dicks, honestly. But I think everybody goes through that. - So, okay, here's the last one, I just remember. So I was doing a bus tour all the way through here. - Yeah. - And some of them here, once we went this way, a food Detroit and then Toronto. And we're going over this land border here. - Yeah. - The bus driver, Paul, is like we can go the popular one or we can go like kind of an empty one of the two land borders. It'll be faster, but it's like out of the way. So we'll be driving more like let's sit in traffic. That sucks. Let's go to the other. - Yeah. - Anyway, he goes, all right, let's go there. Let me fill out for gas here at last one in America so I can come back without having to fill up in Canada. - Yeah. - For, I don't know what reason. And he goes, all right, guys, I'm stopping here. If you want to get out and piss. By the way, just so you guys are aware, we're going over a land border to another country. So, you know, this is not a kind of thing. You want to have any drugs in the bus. I'm sure you're already aware of that. But definitely, right, there's no drugs in the bus. You, anyway, so I'm going to go pee and stuff. So, just, there shouldn't be any drugs in the bus. I was like, oh, right, loud and clear, and there's plenty. So, I was like, guys, we gotta get rid of the drugs. The weed for sure. And they're like, what do we do? We'll find weed in Toronto. It's readily available. We'll find it. We can go to Stalk. It's really not difficult. The Coke for sure got rid of. I don't know if you'll be able to find any or not for the coakers in the group, but it's a land border. We're like, all right, let's clean it all up. There's barely any left anyway. Can I mean, beat it, get rid of it? And so then he, Paul goes, all right, generally, they'll just like say, let me see your passports. Stay on the bus, we're fine. Yeah. I've had it happen. I've done this thing 50 times. I've had it happen once where they get you off. But like, it's once, and it's fucking, it's like Willie Nelson, where they're like, we're definitely going to find weed. They get our passports, like, everybody off the bus. Like, he goes, all right, it's fine. And then he goes, they just want to like, check your passports inside. And then they go, we need the keys to the bus. We're going on. Paul's like, this is weird. And I was like, all right, well, I was like, there's always that fear of like, did I waste the drugs when I could have kept them? Right, right. You know, when I got into China, I got rid of all my edibles on the plane. And then they go, right, there's one of you right through. And I'm like, ah, I could have got 'em. I know it's not worth the risk, but I could have, in the end, I could have had my edibles on me. Yeah. So I was like, well, guys, at least we fucking got rid of the drugs. I have never brought edibles to China. [LAUGHS] The guy who deals with TikTok. And then two of them go like, I mean, we moved 'em. And I was like, what do you mean we moved 'em? Like, well, we're not going to throw out the coke. And I was like, bro, are you crazy? Now there's two border. I'm like, where is it? It goes, it's just on the bed. Yeah. I mean, is it even a way? They're like, we took it off the desk and the back. We put it on the bed. I'm like, in what? And like, in a baggie, I'm like, bro. And our fucking video guy, we're like, hey, just so you know, you did this. And we're reporting, I'm the show. You're not the show. So we can afford to lose you. And I'm not taking the wrap for this. And they were all there for like 45 minutes. Yeah, we're like, they're searching our shit. And they're finding the drugs so that they come out. And they're like, all right, thanks. Go ahead. And we're just like, fuck. I mean, that was good coke. That sucks. You're like, let's do the rest of the weed and the coke. That fucking sucks. Yeah, it does. But it was fine. The point is, yeah. Most of these seem more dangerous than they really are. They are. They end up getting away. Although, I don't know. That time in Russia. Socks. How many days do they total? That was 15, 12. Take sucky. 19. 19 days in a prison. Yeah. Across all of it. Yeah. Damn, that blows. Yeah, no, that really sucked. That's a whole, like most countries you do for less than that. Right. Yeah. That was a-- It turned into like a full study abroad, you know? Got to get dictionary. Got them there. Nice. So you got out there. Yeah. We got out there. The road still look like that. When were you there? Just two years ago. Okay. Yeah. The roads were still. That was a cheap thing they had to fix. They still work it out. You got to get the roads. Yeah. Yeah. That's it. Like everybody helped pull this truck out of the mud. That was every day. I'm like, I just drove here yesterday. On the way it was fine. Like, well, it's washed out now. Still not a priority. All right, sabbatical. This was fucking great, man. Thank you. Guys, again, I'm going to put shit earlier. But check them out on YouTube, youtube.com/-- what is this? It just kept doing more sabbatical. sabbatical Tommy. Yep. @SabbaticalTommy is on Instagram @Sabbatical.tommy. Yep. Okay. Okay. Look at this. What a fucking cool follow. You don't have much time to Instagram, do you? No. It's kind of like my sidekick. I went to Palestine during the invasion. Oh, that's interesting. I'll watch that. Yeah. You've been. All right. Cool. Yeah. If you just want to watch videos by a dude that has no common sense-- You have no common sense. That's what you need. Like, I wish I could go there, but I'm too scared. And you're just born without it. Yeah. Too much curiosity. Yeah. Yeah. All right, buddy. It was great meeting you. No. When I'm done traveling, let's do another one. Or if you're in a somewhere I'm going to be, we can do one out there somewhere. That would be awesome. Yeah. And it's also very possible. Yeah. Okay. I'll tell you my like route when we're off there. You know, if you're ever in like the Central African Republic, you know, we'll set that up. Okay. Okay. What's thinking about that one? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you got to get out of the cold. Yeah. All right. Thanks, buddy. Yeah. Nice to meet you. Good luck. Good luck. Good luck. Good luck. Good luck. Good luck. Good luck. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Thanks, buddy. Yeah. Nice to meet you. Good luck. Good luck. Good luck. Good luck. Yeah. It's like, it's like, he just can't have like a nice, like he's unable to have a night. He's like, it's in a cinematic mode. So cool. Does it make the backdrop look cool? Those you're watching, if you're not watching this, this podcast on YouTube, you're messing out. Because this is a real fucking visual along with audio podcast. Um, anyway, I'm in cinematic mode. Um, yeah, I texted him to tell him when, when this is like, hey, what do you got coming out like, you just like, hey, did I get into Iran right now? Just go to resort, bro. I mean, there's no way. If I brought up puttakana DR, he'd be like, I don't know, but no, like, what do you even talk to him about? To be honest, what do you even talk to him? Oh, go check him out on YouTube. It's a YouTube account slash at sabbatical Tommy. That's S-A-B-B-A-T-I-C-A-L Tommy on Instagram. Um, same thing, it's, uh, Instagram.com/sabbatical.tommy, S-A-B-B-A-T-I-C-A-L Tommy's got a new app, a new, um, pinnacle about Indonesia coming soon and like, just, look at the lesson of these, listen to these videos, just everything you've done is in this channel. Just look at it. Um, just videos, my popularity, um, okay, here we go. African kids, he's a white guy, thinks he's a ghost. 24 years ago. I was forced into polygamy in rural Tanzania, I was kidnapped in the Brazilian slums. The accuser takes me to the hostess club in Japan, uh, uh, uh, the hood in Japan is definitely what you expect. I met a family of Nazis who fled to Argentina, uh, it probably, it probably met a, um, walking up to Japan's most feared Jacuzzi slum, we escaped, uh, uh, from a village of cannibals in Uganda. Um, there's no more men in Russia. Does this after you get still think I'm a ghost? One here later. Haha, these old bellies are shooting each other, life in West Virginia. They're all, these are all just great, great videos. These are all just great, great videos. And, uh, if you go home on this thing, you can see, um, video we're talking about him getting arrested in a chite in a Russian border here, this one, second one, looking for the devil. No. Okay, in prison, Russia accused of being a spy, full story, number 214. You can comment on any of his stuff, um, for those, uh, produced by your mom's house network, uh, it's edited by Alan Caffey, um, thank you to the, what was it, guys, sabbatical. He's got to come back on. Please reach out to him. Send him a DM on Instagram saying, please go back on our show, do we sad after this podcast and just was before? Why does he don't remember? Just shot the shit about travel for so long. It's just like, it's fun when you meet a like-minded guy and that's, that's who he was, um, his buddy, small brain American, um, not as much of a danger.
Seeker this guy just like goes for danger. It's pretty crazy. It's pretty wild looking for the devil worshippers in Iraq I racked it to stop him getting everybody thinks his country's fucked up getting robbed my 10-year-old Romani. Oh, yeah, no, Romani. Oh My people I hope this is getting me up here. I'm that's it guys. Have you gotten the engine? Have you purchased the end go to rshfair.com right now and You can get seven episodes at the end guys. It's a seven episode series one hour each there's six dollars each But it doesn't come out to April 6th. So right now until April 6th you can get a deal on all seven episodes all seven one hour This is not a special. It's a season 2499. 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I'm check out rsw.com or go to the Creek in the cave.com It'll be a five or six p.a I don't know what tickets are yet 45 35. I don't know something like that I said no idea That's it guys next week's episode Robert Kelly and I are gonna be talking about his trip to Guatemala And that's another one where you really want to subscribe to this podcast because the bumpers I did in there are Well, you'll see it. I did it from Guatemala I think guys spend a lot of money for our stuff that never really comes back to it And that's why I'm kind of broke right now. I legitimately kind of broke pause real quick I mean keep filming, but like I that's another reason to get the show. I didn't make my money back flying out 23 comments paying them all With battle tells Getting all paid for the actual show So I'm fine, but like Um It's too easy to get the show yet. It's great. It's great Get the support me going in the round on YouTube sensors and a network sensors saying I don't like this guy or I'd rather you have more of this checkbox so less like that checkbox should I don't want to get into and also You get me out of uh, don't I have to go fucking Latin America at this, but I couldn't for my nearest wreck Not true, but uh true, but not true anyway guys that's the episode Tommy you're a fucking lunatic. Please come back um Whenever you can let's do another episode. I'll save it for whatever you don't you're writing a book dude come back Guys reach out send him it to you. Tell him you want him to come back. He'll be more like you too. He's a cool guy. I'm also a cool guy Hey guys, I feel support Bobby Kelly next week. Uh, you be tripping uh, you want to watch out on YouTube or on Spotify video And that's it you guys the week after that is not sure wait Oh shit next week is the 13th and then the show comes out And then after that, I think we got a Nate Bargazzi episode Um with Joe Lists and Louis Katz all together. I'm gonna three-way trip that they all took Um, who else we got? Duncan Trussell's coming soon I gotta do a longer pod with Ari Matty about my trip A lot of good stuff coming please subscribe tell a friend about this podcast and guys That's it. I'll see you later Solid episode really solid episode. This is what this is. I need more travel bloggers like him Who else leave in the comments. That's a good one to leave in the comments Because I think I got I found out about him from you guys leave in comments Who else? Who might miss? I mean him again Small brain again Anyway Hi everybody. Thank you. Oh Those for Daniel and I don't know how to say goodbye. I should wait salute. 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Key Points:
Tommy Sabbatical, a traveler and content creator, nearly faced arrest in Indonesia while visiting a Rohingya refugee camp due to strict local policies and concerns about foreign presence.
He encountered intense scrutiny from Indonesian police and a secret service unit, who questioned his motives and conducted a lengthy interrogation, citing national security concerns.
To resolve the situation, he was forced to pay $2,000 to local officials to ensure the motorbike drivers who had collided with his vehicle would not continue to detain him, highlighting the power dynamics and lack of transparency in local enforcement.
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Tommy Sabbatical, a traveler and YouTube content creator, recounts a harrowing experience while visiting a Rohingya refugee camp in northern Indonesia. He and his partner were initially welcomed, but soon faced escalating security concerns when Indonesian authorities questioned his presence and activities. The situation escalated when he was detained by police and later by a secret service unit, who interrogated him extensively about his visit, citing national security concerns and fears of diplomatic embarrassment.
Despite his intentions being peaceful and journalistic, he was pressured to pay $2,000 to local officials to end the standoff, illustrating the complex and often opaque power structures in Indonesia. The episode also highlights the precarious nature of travel in politically sensitive regions, where even basic exploration can lead to significant danger. Tommy emphasizes that while Indonesia is a beautiful and culturally rich country, certain areas—especially refugee camps—are off-limits due to strict rules and historical resistance.
His story underscores the importance of awareness, preparation, and respect for local laws when traveling abroad. The narrative serves as both a cautionary tale and a testament to the dedication of travelers seeking authentic global experiences. 99 for all seven episodes during a limited pre-sale, and shares travel tips, including the importance of language learning and cultural sensitivity.
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Bali is part of Indonesia, a country made up of over 17,000 islands. Bali is the most well-known island, but it is not a country on its own.
He and his partner visited a Rohingya refugee camp in northern Indonesia, where they were questioned by police and later required to pay money to avoid further interrogation or detention.
Yes, North Sentinel Island is off-limits to outsiders due to a history of lethal resistance. The island's inhabitants have killed intruders, and visiting there would be extremely dangerous.
Travelers may face legal issues, especially near refugee camps or in areas with strict laws like Sharia law. Authorities may interrogate or detain visitors, particularly if they are interacting with sensitive populations.
After being questioned by police and the secret service, he and his partner were required to pay around $2,000 to local officials to avoid continued detention, and the situation was resolved after three days.
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