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Hi, it's Kristen Davis from the Are You a Charlotte podcast. Recently, Jason Lewis and I visited a Hyundai Hope on Wheels handprint ceremony. Hope on Wheels supports children and families facing pediatric cancer, and what we experienced that day was truly inspiring. It's so easy to get stuck in the negative stories of life. There's a lot of good people doing a lot of good things out there. Absolutely. And it just makes me so proud to be working with Hyundai, because I didn't even know this about them. And here they are doing this incredible work. To hear more, about our day with Hyundai Hope on Wheels, listen to Are You a Charlotte? Available now wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, everyone. It's Andrea. I wanted to introduce you to one of my favorite people on the planet and the host of a new podcast I think you'll love, Burden of Guilt Season 2. Meet my mentor, friend, boss, and the executive producer on Betrayal, Nancy Glass. So excited to work with you. Me too. I love this season. It's just so exciting. And you're here to tell us about it. It's an unbelievable story that you've been reporting on. I've been working on it, but I've also been listening on the feed. And I don't want to give too much away. But I'll say this for people who don't know this story. It's about two men whose lives intersect in New Orleans. One is Bobby Gumbray, who accuses the other, Jermaine Hudson, of a violent crime. But it's not at all what it seems at first, right? That's right. What about Burden of Guilt Season 2 aligns with the Betrayal audience? What do you think this season has that you think the Betrayal community would really find fascinating or enjoy? That's a very good question. In my mind, the Betrayal audience is made up of people who connect emotionally with other people, people who care, and people who understand what injustice is all about. And there was a massive injustice in this story when Jermaine Hudson was identified as the perpetrator. This man was put away and lost half of his life because he was wrongfully convicted. That's one thing. But what's worse is he was convicted of a crime that never happened. He was convicted based on a fake story of a fake robbery. And he was given 99 years. It's astonishing. But the story of this crime in Louisiana doesn't end there. Eventually, all the lies come to light. And I'm curious, what part of this story really surprised you? The twists and turns are so strange. And the ultimate of this story is how the man, Bobby, who accused Jermaine, his life, was destroyed by his choice. And then what he did to turn it around and how hard that was on every level. I think what's so interesting about this season of Burden of Guilt is this is something we actually talk a lot about on the trial. We don't get to report on a redemption arc for any of our offenders. I would love to be able to tell the story of a major act of contrition, but I don't think we're going to be able to tell the story of a major act of contrition or amends in one of our betrayal stories. But so far, they haven't existed. These bad guys, they don't apologize. They're not interested in redemption because they don't think they did anything wrong. And in Burden of Guilt season two, it's a very different story. It's a really interesting story. But I think what's just as interesting is the character of these two men. I don't think we've produced a better show with cliffhangers than season two of Burden of Guilt. Every episode, you're just on the edge of your seat. And I have to say, I just love, love, love this season. And I think you guys did an incredible job. Thank you, Dre. So here's a sneak peek of Burden of Guilt season two with Nancy Glass. I'm Nancy Glass. I've been a journalist for decades. I've covered some of the biggest crimes stories in modern times. I was on the scene of the Oklahoma bombings, attended the O.J. Simpson trial, and I interviewed serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer. You might recall that on the last season of Burden of Guilt, we told the story of a remarkable woman, Tracy Raquel Burns. She was framed for the murder of her baby brother when she was just two years old. She spent decades looking for answers and finally getting justice for her baby brother and for herself. On this season of Burden of Guilt, I want to tell you another extraordinary story. When I began hearing about this story, I thought, I've heard that before, that somebody's convicted of a crime they didn't commit. But I was wrong, because that's not this story. This is something different, something I hope I never hear again. This case has stolen lives, destroyed families, challenged legal systems, and in the end, it left everyone transformed, maybe even redeemed. Let's not stop giving the praise now. We're at True Light Baptist Church in Eunice. It's a small town in the southern part of Louisiana known as the Prairie Cajun Capital. Every Sunday for 125 years, the congregation has met here in the same building. Money, yes sir, can buy your clock, but you can't buy your time. A true pastor will care for his congregation, the pastor responsibility, is to shepherd the flock. That's Pastor Jermaine Teseno. He's been leading the congregation at True Light for 30 years. It's the kind of church where everyone knows everyone. Amen. Which is why Pastor Teseno remembers this one Sunday so clearly. It was in March of 2021. When he looked up from the pulpit, he saw a stranger sitting alone in the back pew. I noticed somebody walking by. in the congregation sitting, and in my mind, I'm thinking, okay, who invited you? He didn't have the best clothes on. You could tell he was on the street. I would say he looked broken. He was broken, but it would be years before the pastor understood why or what had compelled this man to walk into his church that day. Pastor Tezeno eyed him closely. You are Caucasian, and you are in the majority African-American church. Like, what's your intentions? Pastor Tezeno's thoughts jumped to the church shooting at Mother Emanuel AME Church in Charlottesville. In that case, a 21-year-old white man had been welcomed into Bible study, only to later murder nine Black parishioners hoping to spark a race war. And my thinking was like, it's not going to be dead here. I would die for my sheep. Pastor Tezeno finished his sermon keeping an eye on this man in the back row, and when the service was over, he walked up to the church and said, I'm going to die for my sheep. Pastor Tezeno went up to the stranger and extended a hand. I just shook his hand. I said, can you meet me in my office? The man agreed, and they went into the pastor's office. Tezeno asked one of his ministers, Dr. Leon Gallo, to join the conversation just to be safe. Rightfully so, because this was definitely someone no one had ever seen. Pastor Tezeno and Dr. Leon Gallo were in the church. They were in the church. We knew that he was an addict. We knew that he was traveling from place to place, but didn't really know a whole lot more. Bobby Gumpright was actually there with a purpose. So he asked me the question, do you do confessions? I said, well, I'm not Catholic, but I'm like, what's on your mind? He was carrying a secret, a secret so terrible it felt like a thousand pound weight pressing down on his chest. He needed to make that confession. After 30 years on the job, Pastor Tezeno had heard a lot of stories, but what Bobby Gumpright told him left him speechless. I really didn't respond to him much. Because I was in shock. Pastor Tezeno didn't know what to do with information like this. Bobby had just confessed to a terrible crime, a crime that had destroyed lives, including his own. The pastor would need time to make a plan. But in the meantime, he could help Bobby with his immediate needs. I said, you know what, let's get you somewhere to stay overnight. There wasn't room in a shelter for him. And that night, so Pastor Tezeno and Dr. Leon picked up some essentials and paid for a hotel room at the Days Inn. He could take a shower and get a good night's sleep. After we got him the hotel, we got in a circle and we prayed for him. And I told him, I'm going to check on you the next day, tomorrow. And when I went back the next morning, the hotel, I was like, I'm going to check on you the next day, tomorrow. The hotel management said he left. I was like, what? When Bobby left, his secret left with him. And until this story was exposed, another man's life would hang in the balance. This is Season 2 of Burden of Guilt. Episode 1, The First Confession. It's been over four years since Bobby Gumpright walked into that church. Back then, he had long, greasy hair and a full beard. Today, Bobby looks dramatically different. He looks clean-cut and healthy. But the choices he made as a young man are still there, just under the surface. To understand what Bobby confessed to inside that church, we have to go back to the beginning of this story. Now, you might consider what you're about to hear to be a villain origin story. It might be a blueprint for the making of a monster. You might hear this as the story of a little boy who didn't get the love he needed. Or maybe you'll consider it to be a story of strength and redemption. Meet Bobby Gumpright. I grew up in a military family. My dad was in the Navy. He was out to sea quite a bit when I was real young. Robert Gumpright, Bobby's father, was a respected Navy captain. I was working on A-4 aircraft ship as an electronics technician. That's Captain Gumpright, Bobby's dad. In 1979, he married Debbie, and Bobby was born a year later. His voice is very weak due to an earlier cancer treatment. And because of that strain, we asked a voice actor to step in from here on out and read the transcript of his interview. He's my only son, and I made a choice way back when that I would never have any more children other than him. So he's old. I've always had my love and full support. But his parents didn't stay together. They got divorced when Bobby was three. Captain Gumpright got full custody of his son, Bobby. I never saw my mom again until I was in my 20s. As a kid, Bobby didn't understand where his mom had gone and why she wasn't around anymore. My dad, at that point, had decided that, it wasn't in my best interest to see her. So I spent a big chunk of my childhood in Virginia Beach, Virginia, which is where he was stationed, between the ages of, like, three and eight. Bobby was deeply wounded by his mother's absence. His father tried to fill the gap the best he could. I remember when he was very young, and I was running him out to the church, and I would go to childcare in the morning, and I'd say, who loves you? And he'd say, you do. And I'd say, yeah, I do. I love you. And he would give me a big hug. When Bobby was six, his father remarried. His stepmother's name was Sharon. She didn't have any other kids, so I was the only thing that she had. Sharon raised Bobby. She tried to fill in the role of a mother and love him unconditionally. But when Bobby was in elementary school, something tragic happened in their home, a formative experience that would shape Bobby's worldview and influence the person he became. Around eight years old, I was at home with a friend of mine. You know, it was the afternoon. My mom, I think, was at school, and my dad was at work. And this was a friend of mine, Joey. We were just playing after school. We played baseball together, and he was just in the same neighborhood. And one day, he was at my house, and we got into my dad's room and found a gun and pulled the gun out and started running around the house with it, got downstairs. We had a living room downstairs, and a sliding glass door that went out to the back porch. And he went outside and shut the door, and I was standing on the inside of the door, the glass door, and I was kind of holding the gun, like pretending he was the robber and I was the cop. And I jumped out, and as soon as I jumped out, I don't know if I pulled the trigger or my finger slipped. I didn't know it was loaded. But either way, the gun went off. 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