Influencer Killed on TikTok Live & Internet Suspect Her BFF Did It To “Destiny Swap”
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The transcription explores the viral concept of "destiny swapping," a term popular on TikTok and Reddit referring to someone allegedly using jealousy or negative energy to steal another person's life, blessings, or destiny. Definitions vary, but common signs include obsessive copying of mannerisms, style, or life goals, gaslighting, and feeling drained or replaced. Some believe it’s a serious spiritual threat, while others dismiss it as impossible, noting fate cannot be stolen. The podcast then applies this lens to the case of Valeria Márquez, a 23-year-old Mexican influencer killed during a TikTok live stream in May 2025. Valeria, known for her Barbie-like appearance and blunt personality, ran a beauty salon and was linked to the "buchona" aesthetic, often associated with cartel culture, though her dating life was private. Her best friend Vivian, often seen as jealous and mimicking Valeria’s looks and behavior, becomes a prime suspect in netizen theories of destiny swapping. However, other motives include a possible ex-boyfriend tied to cartel leadership. The episode details their friendship’s ups and downs, Vivian’s boundary-crossing actions, and online speculation, ending with a promise to reveal the live stream’s full content and recent arrests in part two.
have you ever heard of the term destiny swapping the term was thrown around a lot on tiktok at the
end of last year it's a term with the definition and the mechanisms of how do destiny swap how it's
done they're still debated practically every tiktok that you see explaining exactly what
destiny swapping is you're gonna see some sort of well that's not exactly what it is in the comments
and then a different explanation for destiny swapping one person states the definition is
a little dark and complicated it involves using negative energy including jealousy to impact
someone's life and take their blessings which is like very vague and ominous another person states
a destiny swap occurs when one person tries to take another person's life like their spiritual
gifts finances friends or job for their own destiny swapping is usually rooted in jealousy
and insecurity
like they they want to take what your future holds for you for themselves some say destiny
swapping feels like someone is entering your life under the guise of being a friend but you start
noticing that they seem a little jealous of you like that's how it always starts while at the
same time they copy the smallest minute details of your life and this has nothing to do with
gatekeeping this is not just oh i love your jacket where did you get it i'm gonna buy the
same one do you care but this is copying your tiniest little smallest mannerisms you're
your habits small i mean everybody copies everybody's mannerisms the longer you're hanging
out but it's just the small things that you don't naturally pick up it's almost like they're
making an effort to emulate you small little stylistic choices they say it's usually when
someone becomes unusually focused on your life not just your clothes or your style your entire
life your relationships your routine that you think is mundane decisions why you make decisions
the admiration or curiosity starts to build up and you're like oh my god i'm gonna do this
and then it starts feeling like they're doing a lab study on you and that individual may also be
condemning what you do critiquing why you make certain decisions but then they go ahead and
they replicate it they go and they do the same thing that you wanted to do that they talked you
out of and they gain the success for themselves that you had planned for yourself one person
writes a long plea on reddit please could you pray for me i believe my former partner's new
girlfriend has destiny swapped me the original poster writes about how she was into the occult
for a long time she received a reading from this very trusted psychic this is like may of 2025 and
she gets this reading and the reader is telling her that she's going to get pregnant with a little
baby boy with her boyfriend at the time the baby boy will be born february 2026 and she writes
soon after that my ex of six years he cheated on me with this girl that he had known for a week
got with her the day after we ended she's also very spiritual and i believe she practiced practices
she's like made a few comments about it but anyway guess who found out they were pregnant
with a little boy in may of 2025 and gave birth in february of 2026 the new girl she says since
then she's faced constant job rejections she feels like she's in a slump that she cannot get over she
feels drained as if living the same life over and over again getting into arguments with her family
facing financial difficulties she's like is this destiny swapping she feels like it is
one person asks spirituality reddit is destiny swapping real
i strongly believe my friend is trying to destiny swap with me every time she complains about
something the same thing she's complaining about miraculously starts happening to me
and then it kind of resolves in her life she kind of solves that problem in her own life
but it's unfolding for me this has been happening for years about multiple different things across
all different things like love life financial problems family problems and now career related
stuff as well please help me i am desperate like how do i solve this it seems difficult to
know how i'm going to solve this and i don't know how i'm going to solve this and i don't know how
i'm going to solve this and i don't know how i'm going to solve this and i don't know how i'm going
sometimes you could maybe have a bad friend who is unknowingly unwittingly destiny swapping with
you and you don't even know it it's hard to say what exactly constitutes as someone trying to
destiny swap i have watched so many tiktoks on this i've read so many reddit threads on this
and it is still unclear to me some say it's very simple like it's not even that big someone
obsessively copying mirroring you a person in your life starts dressing like you talking like you
your exact dreams or becoming fixated on your every move see it's common like sometimes friends
will dress similarly sometimes friends will be in the same industry but someone who's doing
everything the same as you they want to dress like you they want to eat like you they want to go into
the same field as you an example is an acquaintance who begins adopting your unique style career path
and even mannerisms right before your own progress halts that's when you know someone's trying to
destiny swap someone comments someone tell jeff bezos to watch out because once i figure this out
it's over for him a tiktoker however thinks it's much more serious than that they say
it starts feeling like your goals are now their goals and they act like they were never your goals
it was always theirs they might even mess with your mind if you confront them they might say
things like that was never your goal you never told me that's what you wanted to do i don't
remember you telling me that i don't recall that even though you recall that they will make you
feel like you're crazy and then they will talk you out of your destiny they want the world to
think that they are the ones who have predetermined this course of event
they are the ones who set this goal they want other people to think they are the creative ones
they are the originator they act like they're being a good friend a good person a good family
member a good partner but what they're really doing is talking you out of your predetermined
course of events and they're talking you out of your own destiny so they can take it
one person says you may notice that that same exact person has their best luck immediately
after you suffer a misfortune in this case they may be drawing energy from you and using it to
fuel the destiny swap but one reddit comment seems reassuring they write
for reference nobody can steal your identity your fate is tied to you and you can't really tamper
with it in this way if it would be possible it would take a phenomenally skilled practitioner
not just joe public others say no don't listen to this person it's very real and it's very serious
however it's also serious for the person trying to destiny swap they say the person who wants
to destiny swap is going to suffer misfortune in the long run because fate works really hard
to restore itself and the person who wanted the swap will usually suffer the consequences
typically once the destiny swap is reversed because it is always reversed that person will
eventually lose everything that they've gained as a result of the exchange but what if they don't
like what if they successfully destiny swap when tiktoker ominously puts it like this
the most dangerous part of destiny swapping is they want to be the only one to experience the
predetermined course of events so it goes from wanting a piece of your destiny to wanting to
be the only person that has your destiny they want you to not even be on the same course they
want to be the only one to get to that destination they have now decided that's my destination and i
want to be the only one to get there and of course to be the only one they got to take you out fully
that is what a lot of people believe may have happened to a famous influencer in mexico valeria
it's believed by many netizens that someone that was so close to her was so jealous of her
she wanted to live her life wanted to have her destiny so badly she took her out this is the case
of 23 year old valeria marquez and how she was shot and killed during a tiktok live stream and
nobody thinks the real killer is the gunman they think it's one of her closest friends
and someone who wanted her life
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valeria marquez is most often compared to a real life barbie in mexico she's got blonde hair i mean
albeit it is dyed but she does have the blonde hair she's got the blue eyes and those blue eyes
are natural she just has these absolutely like unreal body proportions and i'm not saying that
as in like oh she's had work done she has had work done and she is very open and honest about it
but her proportions are like straight out of a barbie box she looks like a barbie she's stunning
she's got her own business she recently opened up her own beauty spa the blossom beauty lounge
it kind of worked out perfectly i mean she's got like a social media following
they follow her for her looks she's been open about the treatments she gets and now you can go
straight to the source plus she's like the built-in marketing for the spa may 13 2025 valeria starts a
tiktok live stream at the salon the live stream itself lasts just under an hour about 55 minutes
and the majority of the live stream i would say is pretty mundane like there's really nothing out of
the ordinary occurring except i mean the fact that it appears valeria wants to go home like she just
wants to go home from the spa earlier but she's staying because one of her employees informs her
there's a guy looking for you so there's this kind of like this side conversation happening
throughout the entire live stream and she's like what guy and the employee is telling her i don't
don't know some delivery man came and he was looking for you he's like are you valeria and i
was like no i'm just her employee but she's gonna be back in an hour because she had gone to the
doctors and he's like well i have a package for her and it's very expensive so the employee's like
well i'll take it like that's my boss i'm just she's gonna come back to the salon in an hour
and he said no no i have to give it straight to valeria so i can't leave it with you but i'll be
back okay so she found out about this in the middle of her live stream she found out a little
bit before and she's explaining to her live stream viewers what's happening and why she's still at
the spa even though there's no customers anymore it's just her and her employee waiting for this
mysterious delivery man and she doesn't know what it is but her employee was like i think it looked
like an expensive gift but he didn't say who it was from like he didn't say anything he just said
he had to drop it off with you 50 minutes into the live stream a delivery man walks in with said
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- Hmm, the wife and. - Wives and girlfriends.
the biggest narcos like the biggest traffickers cartel members and they're famous yeah they're
famous widely known like the el chapo's wife is the most famous one yeah she is like kind of
symbolic of this exact lifestyle in term that we're about to get into and i think it has to
do with the fact that i mean i'm not sure exactly on the exact statistics because i don't think
they're filing taxes and identifying themselves but i'm not sure exactly how many traffickers
are women but i would imagine most narco traffickers are still predominantly men
so naturally they date people and people identify those people and start you see almost this
lifestyle around it
there is a slang term that's used to reference some of them and our researchers say it's like
a very common term it's
not like derogatory or anything but it's um buchonas so it's it comes from the word of like
a very high end well-loved liquor brand from the sinaloa cartel that they all drank okay it's like
confusing it's hard to describe the word called the girlfriend and the wife's that term buchonas
but yes but it's also a lifestyle so it's a word that became popular in sinaloa mexico and it's
just at first it's
like a way to describe the very extravagant girlfriends of new age narcos so again like
emma from el chapo like el chapo's wife right and it can broadly be referencing all narco wives and
girlfriends like some people use it to categorize anyone who dates any narco okay or it can just be
referencing a very specific type of girlfriend who dates a trafficker usually they are identifiable
um and i was like reading through a lot of the translated
almost like historian type articles that were written so people who are studying these trends
like mexican journalists who are studying the rise of the narco culture and narco world
usually they wear tight and flashy clothing understated is not the goal they like brand
names typically versace and louis vuitton those are like the two long hair long nails coke bottle
body proportions makeup is done in a very dramatic fashion heavy on the eyeshadow eyeliner fake lashes
usually there's a lot of
emphasis on breast augmentations liposuction bbls i will say there is a link between the cartel and
cosmetic surgery since many cartel traffickers are known to pay for their girlfriends cosmetic
surgeries and sometimes all of their girlfriends one famous surgeon was interviewed by journalists
and he said you know there was one single high up cartel member who came in paid for
30 women's different surgeries all paid in cash his 30 girlfriends i don't know if it's all at the
same time but it seems like in a short span of time you would have to think that there's some overlap
for sure wow yeah huh yeah that's not as i guess relevant but the word buchona now means a lot of
things so at first it was basically just anyone who dates a trafficker but then it transforms into
okay well it's the type of women who date a trafficker and they all have a certain look to
them think like kim kardashian lauren sanchez look then it was no it's anyone who is involved
in the narco lifestyle that is involved in the narco lifestyle and they all have a certain look
that is a woman so it's like an aesthetic right it's it's like you know how y2k is an aesthetic
this is kind of the narco aesthetic it's more of like a blanket term for a lifestyle affiliated
with cartels or not it's just an aesthetic it's to describe a woman who likes to show off what god
and her surgeon may have given her which is nothing wrong with that and someone who doesn't
hide the fact that they have very large personalities like a woman who doesn't hide the
fact that she's very vocal and strong and they like to party and they like to meet people including men
and like what's wrong with that that is a woman's prerogative after all okay but one mexican
reporter describes the lifestyle as they represent glamour and authority in their own way you know
you have these powerful women it's not this mexican women who is submissive without money
these women have chanel gucci they it's a search it's almost a search for an identity of power
there was even a show called las buchonas which followed the lives of four women with ties to
cartels i guess it's kind of like mob wives it's kind of like a search for an identity of power
that's the vibe i get it's like mob wives like we went through a trend where we were obsessed with
mob wives like we wanted to know who was dating which mob boss who was in federal prison you know
what i mean what's the difference oh just like regions yeah i guess instead of the mob and the
mafia it's just the cartel i see i see right which i mean i guess we can sit here and debate which
one has the more harmful net negativity to humankind as a whole but you know it's essentially
the same thing you're dating someone who has a lot of power and a lot of money that is not
in organized crime right now there are times it obviously gets a little bit out of control
normalizing drug trafficking and glorifying the lifestyle is objectively not a good thing that i
would encourage anyone to do however one viral incident has pissed off a lot of mexican netizens
because someone decided to throw their eight-year-old daughter a buchona style birthday
party not just with like the style of clothing and makeup which is already you know it's fine
as an adult but not fine if you're eight years old but also by providing prop alcohol bottles and
prop guns to take pictures with and it's interesting i will say though because sometimes
the wives and girlfriends of drug traffickers are looked down upon more than the drug traffickers
themselves which i thought is fascinating it's kind of sick and twisted and sad okay don't get
me wrong i think drug trafficking is looked down upon everywhere right but there is you know somewhat
of a sentiment of well if certain governments cannot help you and people are born into a
the only thing around them is this option that they need to put food on the table perhaps they
did not get into it out of greed but rather survival is it still bad yes but like there's
still more of a nuanced take that type of grace does not lend itself to the wags of narcos for
some reason like the women are considered shallow and gold diggers and never really given the same
small amount of grace i guess that like well maybe there was no other way for them to put
food on the table and find safety but anyway it's it's just interesting it's
fascinating so they are like mostly looked down upon by the mass yes i would say most
mexican netizens do not like this flaunting of this lifestyle i mean i guess it's the same in
the u.s like if you see pictures on facebook of people holding wads of cash and guns you're like
um yeah yeah that's not good i wouldn't want my kid to do that i don't have kids or you know
whoever i see now do all drug traffickers and their romantic interests come from such
backgrounds where there really is nothing to do but survive off of trafficking probably
not but it's just i think it's interesting that the women always get ripped apart quicker and
more than the traffickers it's like kind of weird it's almost seems like a bigger moral
sin to date a trafficker than it is to be a trafficker i think it's idiotic but no one asked
for my opinion ever the batona lifestyle has a lot of nuanced debate around it and valeria is a very
famous mexican influencer that some people associated with that lifestyle if she but do
do we know if she is a mexican influencer
she kept it under wraps whilst she was alive um so there was always suspicions um she i think people
started picking up different things right in the beginning when when she was still alive i don't
think people had confirmation whether or not she was emulating a lifestyle because that was her
personal style and interest or whether she was involved with someone who is a trafficker
because it's also an aesthetic now so it's very confusing
of like was it just an aesthetic that she really liked because there's a lot of women
in sinaloa specifically who have made influencer careers clothing companies based off of the
lifestyle but it's unclear whether or not they have any relation to any cartel or have ever dated
a trafficker so is it like a situation like that i mean she's very open i mean her look i guess
people immediately identify to be part of this lifestyle which i'm not entirely sure if it makes
sense but she's very open about her cosmetic procedures everyone called her a trafficker
the real life barbie and i also think it's very refreshing for the audience because she embraced
the nickname but she's also like so straightforward that her doctor had a lot to do with it she states
i've had breast augmentation surgery liposuction rib reduction fat transfer to my hips my butt
cheek reduction surgery like the buckle fat removal and that's it and she's got like a very
curvy yet slim figure she dyes her hair blonde she's got natural blue eyes this was another
point where people were like well now i'm confused
she would post a lot of pictures of herself on yachts private planes parties which is not unlike
a lot of influencers in the u.s where they're always on yachts and we're like how are you on
a yacht we don't know nobody knows right so netizens are just kind of wondering how can she
afford such a lifestyle and that naturally leads people to speculating that she's involved with
anarcho is she a big time influencer or she's pretty big i would think that maybe got bigger
after her death
but she's pretty big yeah and very widely liked there's also a video of her trying to
carry a giant bouquet of roses that she received as a present which in mexico big bouquets of red
roses are i mean same here sign of affection yes but like mainly a sign of wealth they're often
referred to as ramo buchon so bouquet buchon like buchon again references someone associated
with drug trafficking culture
So like bouquet and then drug trafficking lifestyle, because I guess
Those are typically the people who flaunted and will follow this trend.
And it does take quite a bit of money too.
It's like a very specific aesthetic, right?
So people are like, well, but does that mean that she's dating a trafficker?
We don't really know.
And she's always kind of, she's like weirdly private about her dating life, but not private.
So she'll tell us about things that happened with her ex-boyfriend,
but she won't straight up tell us who she was dating.
She'll post some pictures, but his face is hidden, right?
So it's kind of like you kind of get an idea, but not really.
Now, she also does have a very big personality.
So people just assumed that's also part of her dating a trafficker.
I'm not a narc.
I don't even know.
Just by looking at her, her clothing, her lifestyle,
I don't know if she even falls into this category, but they say she did.
She just, to me, seems like a normal girl just having fun.
I watched a lot of her live streams that are researchers translated,
and she just has blunt humor and people keep trying to say,
oh, this is that lifestyle.
And I just think that she's just blunt.
Like in a video, her,
her uncle, who is a hairdresser, is doing her hair
and she's responding to live comments.
She's live streaming.
Someone makes a dig at her in the comments.
And it's like, do you come from Shein?
Calling her factory made and cheap.
She reads it out loud and quickly responds.
Oh, they, they ask her, do you come from Timu?
Basically insinuating that she's factory made and cheap.
And she reads it out loud and quickly responds, actually from Shein babes.
And she doesn't even seem bothered in the slightest.
Like, in fact, she seems slightly amused by her own response,
but her uncle is defending her.
Those girls who comment, like, I want to see them in person.
What are they, Dior or something?
And she clarifies, well, it was a guy that commented.
But then another person tries to be snarky, asking,
what do you have that is natural?
And she thinks about it for a second.
And she says, my eyes, my nose and my feelings.
And she starts chuckling at her own words.
And like, if having a big personality
and having Barbie-like proportions
and being a girl's girl is a certain lifestyle,
like maybe we should all join that lifestyle.
Valeria's audience seems to primarily be,
other girls and women.
She had her own private Instagram channel
where she would drop messages, pictures, stories about her life.
It's called Personal Girlfriends.
And just a quick disclaimer,
the conversation of Buchona Lifestyles
and her potentially dating traffickers
is going to be relevant after her death.
So I'm not just talking in depth about it,
even though it's unrelated.
It's going to be pretty pertinent to the investigation into her passing.
Now, there's a lot of Valeria's digital footprints
that have since gone viral again with after her passing,
with people,
digging up old posts.
One of the circulating ones is not long before her death.
Valeria posts a screenshot of text messages
between her and a friend of hers.
The point seems to be showcasing their very goofy banter
that they have joking about Valeria's love life.
And we don't get too much context.
So some people pick it apart to understand Valeria's love life
because they think her passing has to do with her love life.
Others think it's unrelated.
So there's a lot of different interpretations.
But she is texting one of her best friends,
like her public friends,
like her public best friend,
who is also posting on TikTok and Instagram all the time.
Her name is Vivian.
So Vivian texts Valeria something.
People think it's about how she should get back together with her ex.
The ex being a suspected trafficker is what people think, okay?
But Valeria responds,
Ha ha ha, I would rather shit in my soup.
Vivian writes back,
Bitch, I know you want it, ha ha ha.
She says, I mean, yes.
And Vivian says, I will throw some lime at you.
So lime, I guess, is,
has some sort of, like, purifying context.
Like, I'm going to purify you, right?
And she said, but no, ha ha ha.
So Valeria is like, yes, but no, like, I would never.
They joke about how the thing has died.
I don't know if it's the love or whatever.
And she's like, not even in my nightmares would I.
So Valeria is talking very strongly about how she would never get back to her,
get together with her ex, is what the conversation seems like.
Now, this is where people think it's weird.
Because Vivian texts her, the only one visiting you,
basically insinuating that Valeria's love life is very isolated and empty right now.
And she jokes, the only one visiting you is myself, Santa, and your uncles.
Ha ha ha ha.
So Valeria is close to her best friend, Vivian.
She's very close to her uncles.
She actually started her salon with one of her uncles.
And Santa, as in La Santa Muerta, the holy death.
Oh.
Not long after.
What?
Valeria will.
Be killed.
Wait, but why did she say that?
Is that just.
It's a joke, I think.
But Valeria has been open in different live streams about how she does worship the holy death.
But it's just like an odd time joke, considering now Valeria is dead.
Valeria has, you know, like her relationship with Vivian,
her friendship with Vivian is a huge point of contention online, even while Valeria was alive.
So they would frequently live stream together.
So you could see their in real time authentic discussions and interactions.
And Vivian is also kind of an influencer, but a much smaller one than Valeria.
Some people think that Vivian was latching on to Valeria to get famous.
But that's obviously, you know, thinking with a heavy dose of skepticism.
In any case, Vivian says they've actually been friends since before Valeria got famous.
Regardless, people have lots of thoughts and opinions about this friendship.
Some people think that their friendship is kind of that sisterly love where they tease each other and they bully each other.
But that's just how they are.
Others think, no, Vivian is constantly saying things to get under Valeria's skin.
Like you can just tell she's saying things and it seems like thinly veiled jealousy.
Some say you can even feel the jealousy from Vivian, like radiating off the screen when they're live streaming together.
This is before anything that happened.
People already had this sentiment.
Yes.
So even before Valeria is killed, people are like, I just see it's like half and half.
Some people are like, I love their friendship.
Others are saying, I don't know.
I don't know.
Their friendship is weird.
But now that Valeria is gone, people have decided they believe the theory that Vivian wanted to live Valeria's life and that she was trying to destiny swap and take Valeria's life.
But if this popular netizen theory is correct, what are their different trajectories?
Like what is the life that Vivian wanted that Valeria had?
So much so that Valeria ends up dead and netizens think this is what happened.
They seem to have very similar yet vastly different lives.
Valeria starts modeling at 16 for clothing brands.
By 21, she wins this beauty competition called Miss Face.
It's a local Guadalajara beauty pageant.
But after winning that, that means you can go compete on the state level.
So Guadalajara is a city inside of Jalisco, the state.
So she does participate in the running for Miss Jalisco in 2023.
She does not win, which kind of kickstarts her influencer career.
So even though she doesn't win, she won Miss Face of Guadalajara.
So lots of.
Like brands, they start reaching out to her.
She starts modeling.
There's a very well-known picture of her in medical scrubs.
People actually say that she was a dentist and an influencer.
It was actually a photo shoot for the brand.
However, she was in school studying odontology at one point.
So like dentistry at one point.
So there's that.
But her career starts really kicking off when she starts modeling for quinceanera dresses.
You know, which some of the brands, they're selling these dresses for like $1,500.
It's a huge market.
It's almost like.
Prom dresses, like if you're modeling prom dresses, these are big name brands.
They've been around a long time, household names.
She starts gaining a lot of attention and she's very beautiful.
I will say that she does look like a real life Barbie, but I think a lot of people were drawn to her personality.
So our Spanish speaking researcher translated a lot of just like casual videos that have nothing to do with her passing.
And I will say that she naturally does seem intimidating because she's very beautiful, but she also has a very strong personality.
So she like.
Voices out her thoughts very frequently, but everything she does also seems humble at the same time.
I think it's kind of like the very in Korea.
We have a stereotype almost of like the aggressive on you that cares.
It's like the aggressive older sister who is not going to sugarcoat it, but also like she's holding your hair back.
She's giving you her favorite lipstick and she takes care of you, but she's also calling you a dumb bitch because you were acting like one.
Interesting.
So she kind of has that personality.
Like someone even asks her in her live stream in the comments.
They're like, are you angry?
And she responds.
No, my love.
Why?
So it's very like not, you know, she's not like, oh, no, why would you think I'm angry?
I'm not angry.
She's just very blunt, straightforward.
She's just very, you know, someone will comment.
Do your pajamas smell bad?
So this is supposed to imply that she only wears cheap clothes.
And she immediately responds.
No, but do you want to come smell it?
You can even smell my ass if you want.
So it's just very, you know.
And she's like, I don't know.
She's still putting on her makeup and it's just OK.
Like, for example, another live stream she has, she shows all of her makeup that she's
using.
She's like taking time and she's like telling everyone, take pictures because I'm not going
to show you.
Right.
So she's like, OK, this lipstick is this color.
This is this color.
And she shows all her lipsticks.
And then she finally gets to applying makeup and she reads a comment out loud.
And they're like, can we see your lipstick to take a picture?
And she said, fucking bitch.
The first thing I said was take pictures because I won't show them over and over again.
This is the last time I show my lipstick.
OK, anyone who asks me again, I'm going to beat your ass.
And then she takes a long time calmly showing every single lipstick again.
So it's like, you know, and maybe she's copying a trend where there was a trend where like
a guy was selling purses and he would get upset when people wanted to see the purses
up close.
So like, but I don't know if she was copying that trend.
It didn't seem like exactly.
It just seems like she's kind of this.
That was her way of humor.
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august 2024 she opens up her own business the blossom beauty lounge inside of a plaza i did
see people say that her salon is inside of a mall which um is not entirely false but don't picture
like an enclosed shopping mall where you walk through a giant building it's a plaza that has
a parking lot right in front that will be important later salon was opened with her uncle
uncle from her mom's side so he's a professional hairdresser she frequently filmed with him
and the salon is full service they do everything hair eyelashes nails eyebrows the whole motto is
there is no better treatment than the time you dedicate to yourself and so people would accuse
her of flaunting on private planes and yachts and trying to show off a luxury lifestyle and
her salon is actually very welcoming and affordable so for example a manicure and
obviously it's going to sound a little bit more affordable if you're based in the u.s but
in this
is still affordable in mexico but a manicure would be 11 to 22 dollars women's haircuts seven dollars
to 35 dollars full tape and extensions including the hair starts at like 175 dollars which is still
pricey yes but extensions including hair can get incredibly expensive a full 50 minute long lymphatic
drainage massage to the face is 41 and i couldn't find specific information about the total employee
count of everybody that works there but you don't really need to know all you need to know is she's
a social media marketer her uncle is also a manager a co-manager but he's the main hairdresser so he's
the one that does the hair he's the hairstylist then you have erica erica is the nail tech she's
going to be important later and then you have another individual that does some of the other
stuff like the eyelashes the facials but it's a very small group of people as for vivian she
doesn't have the most interesting life path that's occurring to her when she was younger she said
that she was very rebellious in high school and that caused a bit of problems
she actually did her first initial work was as an image girl for a club and she describes it as
you get this club a bunch of club promoters will recruit a bunch of girls to show up and they just
hang out around the club when guys walk by they hear there's pretty girls in the club with the
hopes of going home with one of them which they're not going to because they're just like paid to be
there the guys will come spend money on drinks buy girls bottles and then the girls come home
and they do alternating days so it's like if you went last time you were like oh my god i'm going to
you can't come the next thursday because like what if the same people are off on thursdays
it's just a weird she did image girl work before she was even legally allowed to enter a club which
is illegal but you get the vibe she meets valeria through instagram they had a lot of friends and
acquaintances that were the same but they officially start talking through instagram
when they were both trying to just promote each other on instagram she said back then you would
try to promote friends accounts and then they would promote you and that's how you meet people
they're 15 so they start doing you know they start promoting each other on instagram they go to the
club and she describes it vivian describes it as valeria is the very confident over the top
personality whereas vivian is the very shy one vivian said she's basically an ice block she was
not opening up to anyone she was very reserved and valeria was the one that got her out of her shell
so valeria meets her when she's 15 and she passes away when she's 23 i mean that's a very long
standing friendship you would say that they're best friends right vivian clarifies that they
were not best friends throughout the entire timeline um they would have these like on and
off moments in their friendship and most of that would occur when one of them would get into serious
relationships because they just stop hanging out with friends especially friends you go out to the
clubs with because now you're dating a guy and he probably doesn't want you to go to the clubs and
that's when they would have these little off moments but it was never anything crazy
she says that she did meet valeria's other partners like ex-boyfriends
and i mean she did find out that the ex-boyfriend cheated on her and that was like a whole thing but
nothing crazy about them either i mean she says that there's really not much going on
in any case when they were friendly though they presented as like best friends they would have
sleepovers they would hug cuddle give each other presents usually if valeria is showing a friend
on live stream or getting ready with a girlfriend and she pans the camera over you can almost bet
money that it's going to be vivian i mean they're always together they do a lot of girl talk live
streams in one live stream vivian is reading comments and someone asks her do you have a
boyfriend vivian she seems a little uncomfortable and this is like where people point out maybe
there's tension valeria blurts out a husband wow vivian responds well something like that i have it
and another seven have him as well another seven girls have him as well yes which valeria seems
annoyed rolls her eyes and blurts out like a slang word that i guess would be equivalent to the word
that's been circulating
a lot which i know has been a word in um basically it's like a a crumb eater like you just settle for
anyone in a romantic relationship she's calling vivian yes but it's not like a the worst word to
call someone i guess that's just how they banter yeah you're just okay and it seems like valeria
is upset because she probably gave vivian advice over and over again that you shouldn't put up with
this type of behavior and vivian is still putting up with it it seems like a like a sore spot but
that live stream has been analyzed
to hell and back in a controversial interview after valeria's death vivian is asked if the two
of them ever fought over guys and vivian says no they have completely different types of guys that
they go for and more on this later because it's very important some people speculate that vivian
has started dating one of valeria's ex-boyfriends after valeria's passing but that is a rumor and
we're going to get into it in a second but she says they've got completely different interests
like they have two different types of people that they like vivian says that she likes more of
a street style guy who is more dark-skinned and she says that valeria likes a light-skinned guy
with like that buchona lifestyle the more you know that kind of look but i don't know people
are skeptical about all of this anyways they have had full-blown falling outs in their friendship
on valeria's private chat she once messaged the group of her followers the personal girlfriends
viv doesn't want to be my friend anymore she told me she doesn't want to talk to me anymore
and to break up the friendship she literally said that to me a few days after that
she sends another message and says we're back to being friends forever so it's hard to tell if
they're just being dramatic but they did seem to have some sort of tumultuous friendship during
another live stream valeria is talking about a fight she and vivian had where a side note the way
she's talking about it is more so in like a haha like isn't this so crazy funny crazy story time
type of tone i mean they're both together in the live stream so it's not a serious
sit down of let me tell you about the most toxic fight i've ever had with my best friend it's like
a very like can you believe this she says this
bitch grabbed me by my neck and she said what's wrong with you and i snapped back
and people were shouting at us like don't fight anyway we were a little out of it
vivian adds it was all a misunderstanding and they're both kind of giggling and both clarify
it was just a crazy moment a crazy little episode they post another tick tock together after not
posting each other for months and the caption of that tick tock just reads we're so pretty it
doesn't look like a few months ago we were fighting to the death even before valeria's death people were going
through live stream after live stream just trying to point out odd moments because
i mean they're they go from being together 24 7 to all of a sudden valeria stops answering questions
about vivian she stops posting about vivian and then all of a sudden they're back to posting
together so people were naturally invested and had these they wanted to know what was going on you
know in one live stream the two girls are drinking vivian is holding the camera she's live streaming
but it's not obvious that she's on the phone it just looks like it's propped up and she doesn't
announce to anyone in the beginning of the live stream like i'm live streaming or like hey guys
look we're live streaming we're live and vivian says we're having a little drink you can hear
valeria's voice in the background her speech seems much slower than usual it sounds like they just
got home after a night out and she seems a bit drunk and she asks vivian is that my phone vivian
responds obviously gorgeous i started a live stream on your phone oh that's crazy yeah that is
like yeah
that's crazy yeah okay and then what what's valeria's reaction to that she just like kind
of plays it off and they just keep live streaming but i think for one it's insane to take someone's
phone and start live streaming and then second i think it's insane to live stream without telling
people because like what if she had taken off her shirt to change after a night out like would it
you'd or privacy in general in the house yeah just generally speaking like it's just weird yeah it
almost seems kind of like a setup exactly yeah so it's odd other times she'll steal valeria's phone
while she's live streaming and then she'll be like i'm gonna kidnap you now and it's so valeria would
start the live stream but this is valeria's account where valeria has much more followers
than vivian does and she's like i'm gonna kidnap you now and then she'll run with the
camera and then valeria is chasing after her it just i guess a lot of people see it as vivian is
trying to take valeria's clout i mean that's such a weird word to use no no no i okay i see why
people say that yeah i guess they're saying like this is valeria's instagram and her live streams
but vivian is trying to make it a her thing like she's the main character in valeria's live streams
and it's done in a way where it doesn't feel natural they're saying like it doesn't feel like
both of them are just engaging in a conversation it just feels weird in another clip that has since
gone viral making the rounds you know valeria's live streaming in her house getting ready she
looks to the side and she says why the are you coming into my house i don't even get a notice
bitch and she continues doing her makeup and it's clear that she's just talking in a blunt way
but she's answering comments and she's like yes vivian is here i'm telling you she walked into
this house like it's her house that bitch so i mean i don't know maybe some friends and like
maybe it's because i don't have like a crazy best friend that just like barges into my house
but i think it would throw me off okay it wouldn't throw me off if someone shows up to my house and
like a friend shows up unannounced but it would throw me off if they ended up inside the house
and i'd be like how did you get it yeah yeah yeah i don't know it's just but her reaction tells me
it's a little weird valeria thought it was weird yes because i imagine if it's a common thing
between them she'd be like oh hey you're back or like hey where were you you know yeah like
basically vivian's crossing boundaries that was not yeah and i think valeria is trying to set the
boundary without being super firm even though she has a firm personality yeah yeah so it's just i
don't know
yeah
some people thought it was normal between them some people thought it was a strange and toxic
friendship but does that mean that you could be a killer a lot of people have noticed a lot of
jealousy as well just looks wise people think that vivian went to the doctor and showed them a picture
of valeria to tell them what she wanted to look like the resemblance i will say is pretty striking
neither of them have natural blonde hair but valeria has always been blonde that has been her
trademark not to say that anyone who is blonde is copying valeria but vivian eventually decides that
she's gonna go blonde and she's gonna go blonde and she's gonna go blonde and she's gonna go blonde
which is normally fine but she also decides to get blue contact lenses which valeria has naturally
blue eyes and just the resemblance in the facial features but more so than that is eventually they
start wearing similar looking outfits but vivian keeps posing like similar outfits same pose as
valeria so there's like a picture of them and the camera is angled upwards so the camera is lower
and they're both wearing this animal print looking tube top with a little thin scarf
with the same print and it's like such a distinct picture angle and it's such a distinct top that's
two separate photos you're saying yes so valeria's went up first and then vivian's and it just looks
like the clothing is the same the pose is the same makeup is the same it's just kind of like
so it's just a lot of similarities which i mean like i do think best friends naturally have a lot
of similarities because you start wearing similar clothings you start adopting the same mannerisms
and I think that's completely normal and I actually think it's kind of cute but in this
situation it was kind of weird it just felt like maybe she's copying her or trying to be her and
it's not just that she keeps using Valeria's things and it seems like Valeria is getting
fed up in one clip Valeria's live streaming and she looks to the side and she shouts at Vivian
you're gonna steal my panties again like why don't you just bring your own Vivian Vivian is like I
forgot them I'll buy you more no I don't need you to buy them you stupid bitch I'm gonna be left
with none they're over there I can't stand you so it seems like every time she comes over and they
go out she like borrows Valeria's undies and Vivian is like I'll just buy you more but Valeria's like
no because it's not about buying me more it's about the fact that like you're taking so many
of them I don't have any more undies in my drawer Vivian walks up hugs Valeria from behind and Valeria
pouts no fuck off and she's like I need black ones and Valeria looks at her live stream comments and
says no she doesn't give a fuck like just saying like my friend is crazy like she doesn't give a
fuck they start digging through the drawer though and Valeria picks up a gray pair of undies and is
like this one's yours all right as long as they're not visible and then Valeria eventually offers I
also have a black one if you need one person on Reddit says about Destiny swapping in general not
in relation to this case I'm gonna keep it real as a woo-woo girl I don't believe in Destiny
swapping because I don't believe somebody can take what God has for you and even if they get
what they want it will never be exactly what you had not only do I believe it doesn't work and it's
incredibly complex to attempt I also believe you know people describe Destiny swapping for other
things some people think it's like when your friend picks up style tips or your friend is
introducing you to a work opportunity or your friend is introducing you to other things or
doing things with you people think those are examples of Destiny swapping but it's not it's
like someone trying to move into your life and replace you it's like they're trying to steal
your husband your kids your house your job it's not even like they like the clothes that you wear
and they want to buy their own they want to dress in your clothes but is Vivian doing that and is
she the only suspect for who killed Valeria not really there were rumors that Valeria is linked
to various other people that could have had motive to kill such as Francisco Alvarez Solario the son
of LR1 that's what they call him that's his nickname he is one of the most dangerous cartel
leaders in the state of Jalisco Francisco the son is often nicknamed Narco Junior and there are
reports where people believe Valeria is with Narco Junior and it seems that they broke up and not
on good terms and some people even suspect that Vivian is dating him now it's such a mess but that
is where I leave you with part one of this case part two is going to be up in a few days where we
go through the entirety of the live stream like the 55 minute live stream where she is eventually
killed as well as the eventual arrests that were recently made in this case so for like a year
nothing happened with this case until recent so with that stay tuned stay safe let me know your
thoughts and I will see you in the next one
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
Destiny swapping is a debated TikTok and Reddit concept involving someone using jealousy or negative energy to take another person's blessings, life, or destiny.
Signs include copying mannerisms, style, career paths, or life goals, often accompanied by manipulation, gaslighting, and a sense of being studied or replaced.
Some believe destiny swapping is real and dangerous, with the perpetrator suffering consequences if reversed; others dismiss it as impossible or exaggerated.
The podcast case focuses on Valeria Márquez, a 23-year-old Mexican influencer killed during a TikTok live stream on May 13, 2025, after a mysterious delivery man arrived at her salon.
Valeria, known as a "real-life Barbie," had a large following, her own beauty spa, and was associated with the "buchona" lifestyle (linked to cartel culture), though her actual relationships were private.
Her best friend Vivian is a primary suspect among netizens due to perceived jealousy, copying behavior (matching style, blonde hair, blue contacts), and boundary-crossing actions, with theories of destiny swapping.
Other potential motives involve Valeria's ex-boyfriend, possibly a cartel figure, and rumors Vivian may now be dating him.
The episode ends with a cliffhanger, promising part two covering the full live stream and recent arrests.
Summary:
The transcription explores the viral concept of "destiny swapping," a term popular on TikTok and Reddit referring to someone allegedly using jealousy or negative energy to steal another person's life, blessings, or destiny. Definitions vary, but common signs include obsessive copying of mannerisms, style, or life goals, gaslighting, and feeling drained or replaced. Some believe it’s a serious spiritual threat, while others dismiss it as impossible, noting fate cannot be stolen.
The podcast then applies this lens to the case of Valeria Márquez, a 23-year-old Mexican influencer killed during a TikTok live stream in May 2025. Valeria, known for her Barbie-like appearance and blunt personality, ran a beauty salon and was linked to the "buchona" aesthetic, often associated with cartel culture, though her dating life was private. Her best friend Vivian, often seen as jealous and mimicking Valeria’s looks and behavior, becomes a prime suspect in netizen theories of destiny swapping.
However, other motives include a possible ex-boyfriend tied to cartel leadership. The episode details their friendship’s ups and downs, Vivian’s boundary-crossing actions, and online speculation, ending with a promise to reveal the live stream’s full content and recent arrests in part two.
FAQs
Destiny swapping is a debated term, often described as one person using negative energy, like jealousy, to take another person's blessings or life path, including their spiritual gifts, finances, friends, or job, for themselves.
It often starts with someone entering your life as a friend but showing jealousy and copying minute details of your life, such as mannerisms, habits, and style, while also critiquing your decisions but replicating them for their own success.
Opinions vary; some believe it's real and serious, while others argue nobody can steal your fate, as it's tied to you and cannot be tampered with easily. If attempted, the swapper may eventually suffer consequences as fate restores itself.
Signs include someone becoming unusually focused on your life, copying your goals and acting like they were always theirs, making you feel crazy when confronted, and experiencing their best luck right after your misfortunes.
Valeria Marquez was a 23-year-old Mexican influencer, often called a real-life Barbie, known for her blonde hair, blue eyes, and curvy figure. She owned a beauty spa called Blossom Beauty Lounge and was killed during a TikTok live stream in May 2025.
The buchona lifestyle is a term from Sinaloa, Mexico, originally describing the extravagant girlfriends of drug traffickers. It has evolved into an aesthetic associated with glamour, luxury brands, cosmetic surgery, and a bold personality, not necessarily linked to actual cartel involvement.
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