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IMHO's Darby and Alexis Summon Charcuterie Spirits with Trixie

Darby Lynn Cartwright and Alexis P. Bevel share a vibrant, humorous, and deeply personal conversation about their lives and careers in drag. Rooted in their Chicago drag roots, they reflect on formative experiences like early performances, drag competitions, and the legendary Berlin scene, where drag was wild, free, and full of improvisation. They discuss the evolving landscape of drag, including the removal of ingredients like tauke due to allergies and the shift from polished stage performances to raw, street-level expression. Personal stories reveal their journeys with mental health, identity, and family—such as Darby’s journey with SSRIs and her transition from insecurity to confidence. The conversation also explores queer resilience, especially during difficult moments like a tragic event at Milwaukee Pride, where a drag queen’s death prompts a powerful reflection on community support. Humor runs throughout, fueled by anecdotes about bodily functions, political views, and absurd situations like using a Ouija board or doing cartwheels in New York. They also share insights into their collaborative show, emphasizing authenticity, audience interaction, and the importance of vulnerability. Ultimately, their dialogue blends comedy, personal growth, and cultural commentary, celebrating the unfiltered spirit of drag as both art and lived experience.

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[MUSIC] >> Wait a minute, I'm screeching. Is this yours? Are you for real right now? [MUSIC] So what is this, your lip gloss? >> It has it for now. I'm trying, okay. I'm allergic to tauke. >> Oh, tauke is in everything. >> Right. >> So what are we starting the microphone? >> Are we recording? We've been recording. >> We've been allergic to tauke. >> We've been recording. >> I'm allergic to tauke. >> I'm going to change my drag name to tauke. >> You know, tauke is being reformulated out of a lot of products. And the problem is it does have a lot of like sweat, sweat sucking properties that I do like. But I know that it, you know, I know why they're removing it. >> Because I'm allergic to it. >> Because you're allergic to it. >> I know. >> I worked for two years at a makeup store, Nigel's. I saw you there. >> Oh my god, you worked at this Nigel's? >> I worked at that Nigel's. >> Yeah, you're always so mean. I didn't like it. And I wasn't on SSRIs yet. Now I am. I'm never been happier. >> Oh. >> But the problem is they're taking out all the time and she's a Republican. Go ahead. >> Who? >> Sorry. >> Who? >> The mom from Wizards of Waverly Place. >> Oh yeah. >> She's in God's not dead too. >> Anyway, they're taking out all the talcs and all the stuff that makes the Michael Blast for a long time. And then people are saying this didn't last very long. And I'm like. >> I know. Because tauke has, I believe, like it sucks up oil and also has some binding properties to it. And they're removing it because I think they're deciding it's not a, you know, I don't know. >> Bravo, bravo. I don't know. I don't know what they're doing at Nigel's. I don't know anything about what they're doing over there at the talc factory. But I do know that our guests today are drag icons, hilarious comedians and two divas who have incredible, homosexual opinions. Please welcome to the ball to the beautiful Darby Lynn Cartwright and Alexis P. Bevel. >> Hi. >> Thanks for having us. >> Are you kidding? You know who's, you just got a target on your back? >> What? >> Tammy Brown is going to have a target on your back. That bitch reached out to me this week and was like, can I come on the pod and I said we're not really having guests anymore. >> I'm caught you with hospitalized and now you guys are here. >> Okay. >> I did care about that. >> Did you guys kill caught you for this? >> No. >> But. >> Well, I'm open to it. >> I had a, I had a, a moment with, um, a Ouija board. And I, and I asked a few questions, I'm really into twice. Starting strong. I didn't do it out of the pipe. I sort of shot Gundet. It was Chicago, which we can talk about. >> That doesn't count. >> We cannot talk, but we will not be talking about Illinois. >> No. >> Chicago, the Midwest, or honestly the United States. >> It's, yeah, yeah. >> Thankfully, we can talk about Bosnia. Now listen. >> What happened with the shirt, with the, not the Sharkootary board? >> [LAUGH] >> Well, no, it wasn't, it was fun because I was using it as a Sharkootary board at the time. >> If you want to try to reach someone from Wisconsin, use a Sharkootary board. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Yeah, I would know I took a bite. It was like the ring of a pepper and that's what we were using is the uble yet. >> But listen, yeah, and that's why I may have said like, I hope Katya goes, is she okay? >> I sorry, yesterday, she, I mean, she's, I listen, I wouldn't say Katya is patient. I wouldn't say she loves discomfort or inconvenience. >> Yeah, sure. >> Imagine what it's like for her to be in a hospital with the tube in her nose. >> Ooh. >> I said to the nurse, I said, I'm sorry, I said, she's just not very good at discomfort. She's not very patient. >> Sorry about whatever she does or says. >> [LAUGH] >> You don't have dementia because the thing that I've seen on the internet with your swipe is if you want to deprogram your brain and not get dementia, you're supposed to wait. I lost it. >> Yeah, we're supposed to listen to you but not to get dementia. >> [LAUGH] >> Oh, you need to be uncomfortable. >> Yeah, you have to, you have to get comfortable. >> Kneel to grasp, take my camera. You have to be uncomfortable, you have to be comfortable with games. >> We're sorry for what happens the, the rest of this hour. >> Oh my god, I feel like this is what it must be like to be with Katya and I. >> Where you just sit there and let it happen. >> Should I leave? >> Yeah, it would actually be great. We did the Wild Wild Web and that, let's just say my love. >> Erick Sedan, you're so nice and so beautiful. >> You can tell on his talk that he has pecs. >> But in real life, I'll take my camera. He's got pecs. >> He does, and I love his little VHS setup. >> Yeah, I know everything was so cute. >> But he just, yeah, he just kind of sat there and nodded. >> Yeah, did you guys fuck? >> Yeah. >> No. >> Wait, so we all know each other from Chicago. >> We do. >> I was doing drag maybe a similar amount of time then. >> Yes, I started. >> We were coming, we were starting as you were kind of, you had already come up and we had started in the Berlin, in the Berlin heyday. >> Yeah. >> But yeah. >> I was working in the Berlin Chicago, Chicago. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. >> And I started to do shows with both of you, either of you, I feel like you and I did more shows together. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, I was slightly newer. >> I was slightly newer. I was coming in. >> Yeah. >> Why do we need competitions? >> Yeah, I was doing like Roscoe's and all of it. >> Yeah. >> Did you ever win? >> I won. >> I won. >> I actually, I lost. >> Why do I feel like you know that she did it? >> I won. >> I want her to tell the story of who she lost to. >> I won the pre. >> Who did she lose to? >> Oh. >> I lost the Miss Roscoe's competition. >> Wait here. >> 2004, I don't know. >> Which is when she came out of her swimsuit, five girls, quit on the spot. >> Yeah. >> Exactly. >> And the one that stayed in one was Miss Gig on herself. >> Oh. >> Boom boom gun. >> The boom boom gun. >> You know what? >> You know what? >> I loved her. I saw her because we were both at the party city on Western getting stuff for our night. And I saw her there. And then when I saw her at the Miss Roscoe's competition, I said, "Oh my God, I saw you at party city today." And this was post season four. >> The chair needles and that, and so she thought I was coming for her, and she didn't really like it. >> That's good. >> That's fierce girl. And you know, when I know about Gia, is that interpersonal, she'll always give someone the benefit of the doubt and she'll never just jump down someone's throat. >> Yeah, she's serious. >> You really picked the right person. >> She's measured. >> She's measured. >> But you know what though, she's a great performer and she's so beautiful, I would be proud to lose to her in really any scenario. >> Oh, I'm so proud. >> You should get on one of her Instagram or TikTok live. She's on there 24 hours a day. >> She's on a band. >> I'm banned from getting on people's lives. >> What'd you do? >> I had a look. >> I think it's a little too sensitive because if you like go on someone's TikTok live, and comment. >> Tell them to kill themselves. >> Or comment like you shouldn't hear the tone. >> They will like get banned for a week. So you will get banned for people's comments, which I think is kind of unfair. >> Oh, you'll get banned for people's comments. >> Yeah, I get banned for other people's comments. It's not because I've told someone that they just don't need to wake up tomorrow. >> She likes to go on people's lives. >> I'm kidding, it was a live. >> It was a live. >> But I thought it was Alexis Bebels. >> Yeah, we get that a lot. >> No, she likes to go on people's lives and say, do a cartwheel. >> I do. >> And so I want to see if they will. >> Who did it? >> Lana did it. Lana Jaree was walking around New York, and she goes, do a cartwheel, and she's 19, so she was like, of course I will. >> Yeah. >> If someone came close to me and said, do a cartwheel, I'd say kill yourself than me. >> Right. >> Okay. But she puts her phone down. She does a cartwheel completely off-screen. You can't see shit. >> Right. >> So what? >> So what do you know she did it? >> Oh. >> Because she ripped her pants. >> Girl, you hear it. >> Right away story. >> And I was like, oh, but I get nervous. I get nervous when I go into people's lives because I don't want to be talked to or acknowledged at all. >> I do. I always comment like, hi, girl, looking good girl, and I'll just like wait for them to acknowledge me and then I'll leave. >> That person. Yes. >> That's the person who's doing it. >> Like in the comments when people are sharing really funny things, I'm like, I can't be funny right now. Okay. She just ripped her pants. Give me a minute. >> Right. >> Give me a sentence. >> Were they cute? Why was she in pants and drag? >> Oh. >> She's just wandering the streets of New York. You know, drag race isn't the winning thing it used to be. Okay. You know, you used to be on drag race. You didn't have to live on the streets. Okay. But now we have girls out here doing cartwheels, ripping their pants. Where do they live? >> Let's take a break. >> Where do they live? >> Hello. >> Hello. >> I wouldn't choose, I will say Chicago something I do miss about doing drag there is. Let's say you did your number. Let's say you're hot. Winter, you go outside, the sweat freezes to your face. Let's talk about going in the alley and cooling down in drag. >> Yeah. >> Oh my god. Peace alley is what we used to call it. >> You guys were both live singers in drag shows. >> Yeah. >> And so when the rest of us be lip-syncing and then you have the live singers, what was that all about? >> Well, okay. So Courtney Act was on TV and I said, I can do that. >> I'm her. >> I would just like you come. >> Right. >> Yeah. >> And. >> Oh. >> Sorry. >> That was a rim shot. >> I used to rem when I was in my 20s and 30s. For me, it was about, I didn't feel confident in my lip-syncing. >> Right. >> But you. >> I thought it made us feel and look different. I didn't realize that she was good at it and I was. >> Well, I disagree. >> I disagree. >> No, no, you're the most beautiful voice you're my favorite person to sing with in the whole entire life. >> She sucks. >> I suck. >> She's actually, she's. >> Listen. >> She just gives us a second. Can I see you back here? >> Yeah. >> She's very talented. >> But there's a water here for me. >> But I. >> But at what? >> I have to break her first of all. More than you expect. >> Have you seen her sourdough? >> No, that's what we call her poops. >> Oh. >> Yeah. >> So you haven't seen her from the back. >> It's yeasty. >> It's yeasty. And you know, she does your hair, doesn't she? Are you saying that you only have her hair to do your hair? >> Yeah. >> And I've always said that. >> I'm a sidekick. >> For sure. >> I'm a sidekick. >> For sure. >> Who's the leader here? >> Me, obviously. >> Are you sure? >> Me, anything. >> Ask me anything. Ask me anything. I'll be a leader about it. >> Okay. Well. >> Who's the, where you guys have any upcoming shows? >> Alexis Talon. I'm kidding. She doesn't know. She doesn't know. >> You know, I just for a little insight into you guys' shows. I do actually, before we started, Alexis pulled this out of her dress, which I thought was a hit list. Katty's at the top. That's weird. >> Well, she got her. >> But it's actually a set. list from your show. And I guess I like that this is about, first of all, this is already more production than cotton idea. So I'm impressed. It's a set list. One of the things is sit down. That's the part of the show where we sit down. Okay. We even have a matching graphic so people don't get confused. Yeah. She makes all the graphics. My brother, my twin brother does. My twin brother used to be a pastor, but now he's not a pastor anymore. And so now we're like, we're reconnecting. Anyway, he goes on tour with us. He probably won't join us for the next few cities. And it's just an interpersonal thing between him and me and we're learning. He's a pastor. The pastor to graphic designer pipeline. Oh, yes. Yeah. Well, he's trying to do stand up comedy and listen. How are we opening for us? Why don't we all been to Zany Chicago when we shouldn't have been? It's the best because you get a before and after of what she looks like in drag and out of drag. That's rude. Huh? I felt like eating disorder to look like this. What is he done? What does that say? This is New York shit. Okay. So this was from New York. New York. When we performed in Brooklyn. Yeah. So how we sit down and we talk about shit. Do you feel like your Broadway self pop out when you're there? Oh, how? Yeah. Well, we stayed in Times Square. I wanted to stay somewhere that would be calm and close to the Eminem store. Eminem store. Yeah. Cause I want my own. Yeah. Yeah. You understand. Um, actually, Eminem's don't have rappers. Um, oh, so I also want to say it's nice because when you guys go to New York, you guys do musical theater and you're annoying. And they are. It's like very accepted. Yes. It must be like you guys going on like a birthright trip. Yes. No. Oh. Oh, I don't want me. She's not really a theater. She didn't do theater when she was. Yes, I did. You know nothing about me. That is true. Okay. And listen, I'm so sorry. I just can't not listen to this. This is going to be personal. You ask me over and over and over. Yeah. Like things that should be known. You know, number one, I'm hung as hell. Number two, I do know that. Oh, yeah. I forgot. I didn't mean to send it to you, but I'm glad you saw it. Thank you. Number two. Yeah. Like my whole childhood, you just like, checked out of. And I know so much about you. You used to be a boy. LOL. Yeah. And your parents still accept you. Yeah. So I just want you to start putting in a little more effort. I'm sorry. You had to see that. Are you kidding? I talked to like that all the time. Up next, current events. Okay. So that's when we say, let's talk about current events. And then we scroll our phone. Scroll through our phone. And then we have a wave of it. Oh. One time I went to a girl show and she just showed memes. Do you guys ever just show memes? Okay. We did have one in our first show we were trying out in Chicago. Oh, that was a little voice. It's her story. So I don't always go well. So we were in Chicago. And it was a show that was too long. We added an intermission in the middle of the show. Right. And no in the moment. No, no, no, no. That's fierce to just be like intermission. You know what? Okay. Well, we did say the show was 90 minutes and it ended up being three. We did time it or run it beforehand. Yeah. So it did end up being a little bit long. But for intermission, you just sat on the stage and oh, I watched. I scrolled TikToks. Yeah. Yeah. Stop. Yeah. So the audience came back and went a little bit talks with her. Stop. Yeah. Do you play for night? I have played for day. I played it with Bob once. Oh, I love it. It's the only game I know about. But you didn't he. He did me off a cliff and laughed at me. You can take fall damage. Did you die? Yeah. I didn't. I think it's too hard running building walls and running at the same time. I don't know. What about that? I just run around and look in the chests. That's all I do. And I like to pick my outfit. The what? There's a little bit. You have tits now. You think you could just look at Jeff's boobs. She just opened up people's chest. I typically walk up to women and just say, Hey, lady. She's never been arrested. She doesn't know. You know, you go to the right. You go to the restroom and say, I'm here. No, I'm here. It smells like you're shitting. Yeah. Yeah. I did buy a shirt from Marshall. Do you like poop? Do you like poop? Do you like poop? It's a huge issue for me. You don't like it. I don't like it. I don't like it. I hate it. I just feel like hate it. It's not too good. It's that it's not. It's gross and it's not funny. Yeah. Yeah. Well, the actual stuff is gross. But if something poop has happening to me, I make it so known and I won't stop talking about it. So I don't know what that is where I want to be seen. I want to be witnessed. When I'm having like, Oh, I was constipated. I'm going to talk about it. Do you want to be perceived? Constipation is not funny. It's not funny. Poopoo on a shirt in Marshalls and buying it anyway. She got all the graphic of poop on a shirt. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. There was a brown stain that she thinks is poop. Hey, let's celebrate being able to fit children's clothing. Thank you so much. I'm not allowed to be around them anymore. I didn't know what to do with all the clothes I'd already bought for them. Okay. How are you so thin at like 46? I'm telling you. First of all, you're you're laughing about my age. However, I will be 42 in July. I'm not laughing. Okay. I remember when we started doing drag. First of all, you were married in the fact that we were like 21 and we knew someone who was married. It was like, what? Also, when you teaching special education. Yes, I was. Okay. I still are in a way. I had this private tutor. I had this thought when Tracy asked if we wanted to come. I'm very good. And I was like, yes, absolutely. And there's there's a couple of moments I always tell when people bring your name up that like now I'm just giving myself. Yeah, because they'll be like, you're oh, you have social media. People see you before. She has a runner on social media. She has no idea. No, one was we were in the basement of hydrate hitting our heads on poles. Oh my God. The basement of you guys, the basement of hydrate. I'm not kidding. This big. We're in drag like this. I'm not. Kim. She is planking. And we're all tall. Dungeon crawler Carl. Yeah. And she was in her head, head piece era. She was where she was prone. She's had a prone. Yeah. Yeah. She's wearing a clock. A lie bird. The two bird in a bird cage. A lie bird in a cage, which was ethically handled. She didn't inform me last time. We talked about it. Yeah. She confronted her. Yeah. Now if you ask her, she's like, Oh, it was. Peter was involved. It was a rescue. Now it's a whole different story. Hey, okay. She's testing the makeup on that bird. No, 100% and that's why we look so good. No, you and Kim were in the corner pooling your tips. Yes. Because Kim was dressed as a pee, a pee pod. And she didn't have green eyeshadow. So you were pooling your tips so that you could go around get her green eyeshadow. And you could share chicken tenders from 7/11 because you hadn't eaten yet. So y'all shared this and I was thinking silly. That's why I'm a special ed teacher because I'm never going to go hungry. Cut to. You're now super rich. And I'm hungry all the time because I moved to LA and I think I have an eating disorder. Let's take another break. I also want to say I think that that story we were trying to get Kim green foundation. Oh, she was wearing this thing where her face was green. And then on either side of her head, she had taken a green tap light. Yes, with eyelashes. She looks like her face was a pee and a pod. Yeah. And she had the two pods. It was a day glow party. So we were all in neon. Yeah, we were. And I think I wore, I think I had some kind of thing that said like live nudes, like a sign on my head or something. I don't know what I was doing. Oh, I didn't have anything neon because it was very early for me. And so I still wear this as a badge of honor. I was wearing a Camara hall suit, a little body suit. Oh, gosh. You want to talk expensive drag? I know. I want to do an account and a competition. Oh, no. Oh, spin. Oh, man. I missed that one. It burlin. Shut up to Berlin. I found the chat to Berlin. It's going to be a thing. Yeah, decibel. Listen. Oh, is Berlin reopening? Yeah, it's reopened. It's going to be like a restaurant, right? No, it's a restaurant. It's already opened. Oh, good for that. Berlin was really fun and magical. Talk about a time of really like a free-for-all and drag. Everything was wild and crazy. Oh, yeah. This first time I ever tried Coke was Berlin. No, I just lied to you. It was actually, it was in this guy's house. I don't know, but I didn't get to know him because he died. He jumped out of the belt like his window and killed himself like two months later. You know, all of my drug stories are in from Chicago. Yeah, that's all mine too. That is to me that if you ask me that is the cocaine capital of the world. I believe that because it's so cool that you were drinking for breakfast for sure. But drinking the level of hangover, the puking on the Amtrak that I did in my life coming home from Chicago. Oh, yeah, because you were you were training in from from the Amtrak. Oh, my God. After Berlin on Saturdays, I would get up, go get on the Amtrak, go back to Milwaukee, go straight to hamburger marries and do bingo. Oh, my God. You can get on stop. You're hustling, hustling, hustling. You know what I remember when I think of you meeting you before you want to get me a while every day. Yeah. Okay. And we be honest. We do, but it's not because of us. We are because we are two white women with problems. And sure, do I have the signature Chicago face that I never changed? Absolutely. Yeah. Doesn't look a lot like trixies. It might. You think I've never thought that. I don't think so. I just think it's the black. I think that's all there. You do this totally different. Yeah. I don't know. But people call us the team of trixies. Yeah. Which one of you is trixies? Katia. Well, that's the thing is she's, I almost had something so rude. She's - They like Katya. - No. - Say it. - What? - Skinny like Katya. - She's too moved. - I found out I might have a personality disorder. I found out. - You found out? - Yeah, two days ago. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, you do. - Who told you, everyone you've ever met? - No. She saw a new therapist. - Both parents. - She's trying out a new therapist. - There's no way you have two parents. - She's in Palm Springs. No, my parents and I don't talk about my dad's 82 'cause he's home of four. - Oh. - And that's why we don't talk and he's sucking off one of his friends from high school. - That's a lot of sense. I knew you were either like, had an old parents or homeschooled. - Yeah, old parents who were gay, but gay. - No, but we were in Berlin and we were chatting. And timing is so funny because I remember hearing that you tapped dance. And I also tapped dance. And so I messaged you on Facebook. I said, we should do a tap dance number together. It was something like that. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Which was fun. - Which was fun. - Yes, yeah. But I think of her. - But I think of her. - Of course. Berlin was also a unique stage because, you like, enter from the basement, actually a nice dressing room for a drag club. - Yeah. - A dedicated space for the curtain. - Had mirrors. - Yes, that's true. - Had something. Had an area to go to the naked. - Had a counter. - And that area had a drain. So while you're tucking, you could piss on the floor. - I have seen that happen a few times. I did that every time I was at Berlin. - Also, that was when Fireball had like launched. It felt like. - Oh my god. - Fireball was a huge thing. - Fireball was a drag. - I remember it being the official sponsor of all these drag shows, which shadowed to Fireball kind of pre-drag what it is now. Fireball was like, yeah, we'll pick, we'll sponsor your drag show. - True. - Yeah. - They gave us the money that paid us and free Fireball. - Yeah, we did. Um. - BBJ could Fireball on the rocks. We were acting like it was, - Oh, we'd sip it. - Sip it. - Sip it. - Fireball, my gosh. - A hot mug of fireball. - You don't warm your bones. - Do you have a healthy relationship with others? No, you don't, because you sip fireball. - Fireball. - Fireball. - Fireball. - I loved it though. - I did too. - But it's cinnamon. - Oh. - Actually, there was a moment at Berlin. We were doing a show and you were outside spray painting your nails. - I did do that a lot. - Yeah. You were doing that a lot. It was another moment where I was like, she probably can't afford nails. She was a teacher. - I couldn't. - So you were older than us and married and had a real job. - Thank you. - Yeah. - It seemed like you were like a real person and I just remember we always thought your husband was so beautiful. - And he still is. - And he still is. - He just went and saw. - Curtis. - Curtis. - Curtis. - Yeah, Curtis, Edward Jackson. - Curtis, Edward. - Yeah. - Actually. - Sure, why not? - We went and saw him in a short film. He had a premiered his short film called Kiss spelled K-I-5-5 and he was wonderful in it. - That's great. - He's a really good actor. - He's a mom. - Yeah. I will say thank you so much, Infinity. He did an Infinity commercial dress as a bear and that has paid for so much of my lifestyle. - He looks like Jack Quaid and Jake Gyllenhaal together. - Yeah. - Oh, I could totally see that. - Yeah. He does have a Jack Quaid vibe. - Jack Quaid. - Jack Quaid was a dad. - Yeah. Did you guys watch The Boys? - I watched the first episode. - Oh, because she used to be one. - Yeah, yeah. I used to be one. I used to say I was deep undercover as a dude. - You know, the T-moot Trixie. You're the T-girl Trixie. - Why? - Why? - The end of that sentence was she's skinnier like hot, but she does her makeup the best thing that ever. - And then I tapped in. - So we're basically the same. - Oh, we're the same. - Yeah. - Because now I can say trans jokes, because I have one. - Oh. - Yeah. - Yeah. - You know, I catch them all or you got to catch the best one. - Oh. - Well, I believe when you have a trans colleague, I do believe there's a -- there's a -- - There's a closeness. There's a way you could speak to her that maybe other people shouldn't. So people at home, I will say, if you see her talk to her like this, that doesn't mean that you -- - I think it's a general wound on a cruise ship. - Okay. - And that changes everything. - Listen. - She bent over and the pubes were coming out of that. - I think she's -- - Are the pubes red? - No. - Are these the big -- - No. - They're dark brown. - Those ones I didn't bring my reds. - I didn't bring my reds. - Are yours gray? - I do have some. - It's starting, yeah. - Are you sure of it? - It is beyond started. - You still have hair, though. That's pretty fierce. - It starts a little further back. - You think? - But I am going to Turkey. - Oh, for years. - Yeah, I want to get -- - I want to get -- - You should go to Turkey. - Have you ever been to Turkey? - And I want to get hair like you used to have. - Oh, I haven't had hair in a very long time, now probably 10 years. And I got these teeth in America and nail in Hollywood. - Fabulous. - Really? - Where are my dentists? Is in Beverly Hills. Dr. Sun. - Okay. There we go. - Dr. Sun. - Sun. - Cannot relate. - When I first moved here, I had money to go to the dentist for like what, the first fucking time. And I just googled, who's the closest dentist? And she lived a block for me. Her dentist office blocked for me. That's how I selected my dentist. - Yes. People probably do research. - No. - No, no, no, no, no. - Whatever's closest. - You have to go whatever's closest. - We all, like, our base dental care is pretty bad. - For drag queens, are you kidding me? - Yeah. - Oh. - Not to mention my upbringing. I'm like, I think the Wisconsin paid for us to get a teeth cleaning once a year. Or a checkup, which wasn't enough. - Well, not for Wisconsin, when the main part of your diet is cheese. - Cheese. - And love the Mars cheese castle though. - Girl. - Oh. - I miss it. - What do you guys think of Milwaukee? - Love it. - We love it. - We love it. - We love it. - We love it. - We love it. - We love it. - Yeah. - We've never had a bad time in Milwaukee. - The Chicago Milwaukee sisterhood is the traveling gouches. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's very. - Can I tell a Milwaukee pride story that may not be appropriate? Okay. - The first time I ever met detox was at Milwaukee pride. I was co-hosted. - Inappropriate. - Exactly. Well, I was a twink and I was alone with her. Is that appropriate? - Oh. - It's enough. - No, she was really sweet. But we were this drag queen and I were co-hosting Milwaukee pride and it was unreal. Like, it just blew my mind. - It's huge. - It's crazy. You don't do anything. - It just jump up and down. - It's like Coachella. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And they're all crazy and gay. - And there's one of those like gondolier swings that goes over the entire. - The dance grounds. - Yeah, super fun. - Oh yeah, to go look and then you can like ride it and drag. - Yeah. - They got food and fried everything, beer tents, multiple stages. That dance pavilion is crazy. - Crazy. - Thousands of people. - Thousands. - And they are dancing for hours. - Yeah. - And they're not even, they're dancing while the sun is up. - Yeah, it's a mild day. - There are 10 furries in full fur gear. - Oh yeah. - It's 100 degrees outside. They are out there for hours doing their thing. I'm in barely address and I'm like, it's too hot. I'll see you in a few minutes. I'll be right back. I was never in stage for more than five minutes. - Well, I also think market days is, I think market days partners with heat stroke. - Yeah. - They kind of partner every year. - Yeah. - Because market days has a liability to time because when is market days July? - August 8th. - They will, they will kill you. - Yeah. - And it's hot. - And it should. - And I have wished for it. - No, but I was doing this thing and we were doing Milwaukee Pride and it was, it was right. It was the weekend of, oh, this is gonna be such a bummer. Sit down. - Everything so far has been kind of sad. - Oh. (laughs) - I know my brand. Pulse nightclub in Orlando. - Oh. - It happened. - I don't know for you. - It did, yeah. - It did happen and we had Milwaukee Pride the next day. - Oh wait. I remember this. - Yeah. And there was a big conversation about, are we gonna do it? Do we, you know, who feels safe enough? And detox was supposed to be there that day, but obviously like she recused herself. - She recused herself. - And she's from Florida, I believe. - Yeah. - So she probably. - Yeah, it really hit her heart. - Yeah. - But she, before the park opened, the other drag queen, she died in a fire. She texted, she gets a text that detox is here. She's about to leave. She just wants to say hi. So I came out and I stood like away because she was already crying and I didn't want to like get in that business. And so they're talking or whatever. And then she goes, who's that? And then she brought me over and she's crying and I go, hi, I'm Darby and she goes, oh, you're cute. - And then she puts me on the lips, smiles, goes right back to crying. - And that just shows the resilience of the queer community in hard times. - Or compartmentalization, healthy compartmentalization. - Yeah, exactly. Well, that's why that's how we have to do with our childhoods and the such as. - Well, queer joy, right, unbridled queer joy and it's also very queer to be like, like if somebody you didn't mean, it's like something kind of sexual is like, oh, it's also very queer. Do you remember her and me girls when she's like, big fat whore? - Yeah. - It was like very bad. - My niece was just a mean girl. She played Katie. She's too good for the program she's in. - Oh, wow. That's tough. I love to go see productions, specifically a kind of a community theater production. I saw a community theater production of a legally blonde a couple of years ago. - Blah, blah, blah. - Yeah, that was a community theater artist, there's a Presbyterian church near us that does all the juniors, like in the summer, they have to do like rent junior where they all have diabetes and stuff. - Oh, okay. So mine. - And she's got a stripper. She works at Builda Bear or something. - Well, honestly. I think that's more and more all. If you work at Builda Bear, that's a scam. You get a bear so cheap. You can rip it out. It's a Builda Bear. - Does she do that? - Yeah. - Something she does. Someone once said like, "I love Alexis, she's so funny, but I know it's gotta be hard to see her every day." And like, (laughing) - Oh, she has to edit me every day, socks. - Oh, I actually don't think between Katinae who has it worse. - Well, she's in the hospital. - No, I mean, like, who? - So her, me having to work with her, her having to work with me, I don't know who wants to take the bigger bullet every day. - Oh, that's true. - Oh, this is interesting, 'cause working with your best friend, I would say, that's hard, huh? - Do you guys hang out? 'Cause Katinae don't hang out or speak? - Not anymore. - We do. - Yes, we do. - We do, but only because I don't have a car I live so close to her, so she can't avoid me. - Right. - No, but the good thing she doesn't call me anymore. - I know, I don't call her, 'cause she's-- - We're phones turned off. - She's listening to my voice and editing my face. - I can't talk to all the internet. - For eight hours a day. - Also, you need to go have, if you guys talk about your life, you need to go have separate experiences, and you kinda need to bravo, bravo, bravo, or nothing you say matters unless that camera's rolling. - Yes, I don't think that makes it a bad thing. - No. - Katinae was talking about we just, because of this, we have to have stuff in the tank. - You have to have the fresh discovery of a story with. - We just, we just, in Kelly, they never spoke to each other until they got on camera. - Katinae on tour literally wouldn't see each other till we're on stage. - That is her dream. Okay, that is my dream. - It's nice. - It's just because like, you require a lot of support. - Who's the, who's the insecure neurotic one? Who's like the do I live in? - No, see, I used to be the insecure neurotic one, and then I transitioned and I got an SSRI, selects a 20 milligram, so I've never been happier. And I have a boyfriend. - She cries now. - Oh, you're a boyfriend? - Yes, it's awesome. - What's he like for over a year? - He is a musician, like you. - Who would play him in a movie? - Ooh. - The comments say Noah Kahan. - What? - What's that? - Noah Kahan is a music artist. He's like long hair, beard, scruffy. - Who would play him? - You know, when you play, who would play her? - You pick someone that everyone knows. - That everyone knows, yeah, that would be helpful. - Oh, who would play her? - The Noah Kahan community is gonna come for you. - Oh, I know, shit. - No, it's over. I'm sorry. - We're of a certain age, okay. - Okay, okay. - We're quite a bit younger than us, right? - No, I'm 40, I'm actually in 41 today. - You're 41? - Yeah. - Yeah, today is her birthday. - You really have always had a youthful vibe. - Yeah, the very insecure sentences and words. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, very. - I thought when we started doing drag, I thought you were younger than me. - Thank you. - I will say, the cast of characters, when we started doing drag in the same. It was the. - Arena, yeah. - Vixen, Pearl, Jay, Kim. - Yes. - The drag world was developing and flowering in that area code. - Yes. - There was a moment where suddenly all of Chicago, all of the girls we came up with were on the show. And it was like. - Every year someone was on drag race. - Yeah. - One or two of her. - Yeah, for a good long while. - It was me, that it was Kim. - Yeah. - It was Vixen. - It was like. - Jay, and then Vixen. - Don't forget, Nesha Lopez. - Nesha. - When did she hit the scene? - When Nesha. - Nesha during the Kim season. - Right? - It's not for me. - No. - Yeah, I feel. - Oh, Gio was six. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Nesha was six. - Oh my God. - Drag race. - My niece is gonna be in where six, Junior. Oh, Mean Girls Junior. So they changed the line where Regina goes, hey, I'm feeling very sexy and it's dead, changed it to, hey, I'm gonna take a selfie and then she pulls out her phone and takes a picture of herself. - I don't like Junior versions of things. - Oh, look, we don't need Junior Euphoria. We don't need Junior. - Okay, I don't want you on Junior Euphoria. - Okay, they're old. They're old. - No, that's a funny idea. - I don't want to see old people go to high school. - That's why it's Junior. - Did you ever dance? - You need to watch Netflix, everyone's 40. - Joe Girls Junior, but only performed by adults. - If you guys went to audition Netflix today to play high schoolers, they would tell you that you're too young. - Oh, okay. - Thank you. - So you haven't gotten your eyes done yet. - I have a question. - Thank you. - This list says Twin Uendo, what's that about? - Okay, so they, despite my objections, they have a podcast, her and her and her brother, her twin brother. - I love to hear her explanation of things 'cause I get like a view inside her mind of like, what does she think we're doing? - Yeah, and so they have a podcast together called Twin Uendo that I am on. - That's why, and I'm not involved with, - You haven't been in an hour. - I haven't been, well, I've been on it one time, but it is a boys club, they don't have to do drag or anything. And they have to, and they talk about their trauma. - We're doing trauma, okay. - It's trauma talk. - You know, he was a pastor for almost 20 years. I was a drag queen, you know, we weren't close. - He was a boy, she was a girl. Can I make it any more obvious? - And much like Avril Lavigne, I do hope to kill him and replace him one day. - I love Avril Lavigne. - Oh my gosh, I like the original one the best, but I gotta say, the one that she is now. - What's her name now, Stacey or something? - Melissa? - Do you, what do you think Taylor is? They think Taylor is like Melissa or something? - Melissa. - The comments would be like, Melissa Blink, if you're okay. - She was in law in order SVU last week. - I did do that. - She played a lesbian. - Oh, she was so good. - And that's okay. - That's okay. - Yeah, that's okay. She was amazing. - Is it, are you and your brother identical? - We're Mary Kate and Ashley for Turnall. - Did you know Mary Kate and Ashley are for Turnall? - They looked very, - Wow. - Yeah, we look a lot like, I'm an inch taller and he's straight. - He is. - It's really fun with them on tour together 'cause like, show walk behind a pillar and then he'll come out the other side and I'll be like, - And that's kind of a fun twin high jinks. - That happened, why? - They, you wanna hear about twin high jinks? She rented a car the last time we went to North Atlanta, Alfa Reda and Orlando. We rented a car and you saw the name too. - Well, we used to say we were in Atlanta and then we realized, yeah. - Yeah, yeah. - We're in North Atlanta. - Alfa Reda is a beautiful name though. And so, we bought Shiba out of the car and then she was like, you're gonna drive, I'm just gonna give you my ID in case we get pulled over. 'Cause she don't wanna put 'em on the thing. Oh, am I allowed to say that? - Yeah, no, go for it. - No, blow up her spot. - No, but she's mad. - I don't think either of you in a financial position to get banned from enterprise. - We're absolutely not. And it was sexy. - First of all, I love it. - You think we can afford enterprise. - Have you ever heard of six? - Do you guys are Alamo? - We're six. - No bitch, we're six with a T. - Yeah. - You want to start a company? The number with a T. - What's the one where you rent someone's car, Truro? - That's a no. - I'm not doing that. - You like, if you have a Prius, you could rent it for people to come get it and use it for the day. - I have a Subaru. - That's. - I have a great business car. - It's a car. - Oh, I used to, yeah, I used to love zip car. - But she was mad that I didn't put her name on it 'cause she told me I was gonna learn how to drive again. - No, no, no, I'm a very good driver. - I just got my ID back. - We got in really late and I couldn't wait in the sixth line. - You know the sixth line is crazy. - There was no one there. - We just went straight to the car and I was the only one on it and because he's straight, and he drives better. - Yeah, so I just gave him my license. - No, the very good driver. - Gay people should be driving. Everybody's like, are the way more safe, I'm like, the gay people are out here driving. - I'm not gay anymore. - No driver is better than gay drivers. - Technically, I'm not gay anymore. - Oh, I'm almost thrilled. - Oh my god. - You are the stereotype of a woman. - How do I say a woman? - Apparently, yeah. - You're part of the problem. - I'm sorry. - Better sexual white lady. - Yes, see her titties. - Get on Facebook. - The nipples are bigger than you think. - Hi, mamas. (laughing) - Did she become a chatboy? - Hi, mamas. - You should, and I tell you, my current obsession, the thing that helps my SSRI, is hand sewing, dresses, and I'm going to the hobbit. Okay, don't look at me like that. I love sewing and I feel like you have more control with hands. - It's more productive to think she's ever done. - And I could do it in the plane. - Hand sewing. - You do it in the plane. - I can do it in the plane. I love it. - She is the hair wearer. - You're telling me that you're back in '21, see. (laughing) - I love it. - I love it. - Yeah, she really is. - She really is. - I really am. - Yeah, I have to watch how the-- - I'll tell you this. - Stewardesses. - Have you guys ever-- - Steward, I don't be insane. - Well, this next note from the show says, don't impress me much. - That's a song that I do. It's the only song I do. - She has done that song as her like, - I do it everywhere. - I do it everywhere. - For eight years now, and I'm not exaggerating. - But it's improv because during the part where she says, so you're a rocket scientist, I stop at the music, and I say, hi, what's your name? And he says, you know, what's your name? Daniel, and I say, what do you do for work? Retail, okay, so you probably have to deal with like, customers and like, interpersonal relationships. That's, the song is called That Don't Impress Me Much. So, and I can't change the lyrics, and I a twin is very litigious, as you well know. And then it comes in, that don't impress me much. - Yeah. - And now that I've said it on this podcast, I'm gonna have to retire. - No, nobody listens to this. They're gonna see this thumbnail. They're gonna realize neither of you are Katya, and they're gonna look at me. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. - And you know what, thank you for that. Thank you for realizing that, finally. - Do you know what, two of you put together don't even equal one vascular crackhead. How does that feel? - Oh, we know. - Oh, you don't know. - We're very self aware. - I used to put drugs in my butt. - And that is something that I have heard that people do, and I just, in my experience, I can barely have like, a solid VM without injuring myself. So how are people putting drugs up there? - Solid VM. - Oh my God, I come to our meet and greet and give us metamusel. - Metamusel gummies are you ever doing any of that? - Are you ever doing any of that? - Well, I usually am oscillating between a mirrorlapse experience, but I'm always afraid like, I'm afraid that a metamusel is gonna stop things up more. What do you think happens? - Because metamusel, it does when you go off it. - It's a thing. - It's very hot guys feel like. - Dad died in 9/11. - Dad died in 9/11. - He brought us metamusel gummies. - You don't have to say who died in a story. - Well, we're not supposed to. His mom doesn't like it when he say it. - She did, I requested what she did. - She did, but she's not here. - Yeah. - She's not the Hollywood you would say, honey. - And neither is her husband. He's not anywhere. - Okay, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. - That's great. - I'm sorry. [BLANK_AUDIO] brings us these gummies, we start taking them, we start having solid poops every day, wild. - And then I forget to take them. - But no one tell us, like he didn't say by the way, if you start this, you can't just suddenly stop because I'm gonna lock everything up forever. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yes, and so at Christmas, I'm in my in-laws house, and I ripped my butt hole wide open. - Mine came a few months later. - And wasn't it horrifying? - Do you watch the pit? - Yeah, you've been a bee in the pit. - I've never seen it. I mean, I know, you guys, I know about ripping a butthole. - Yeah. - I don't have to watch a medical show, to understand. - What are you watching? Do you watch? - What am I watching? I've been watching Real Housewives of Beverly Hills from the beginning, my ex used to watch it all the time. And so I peripherally have seen parts of it. - Yeah, you've gotten the jest. - And I texted Lisa, I said, you never guessed what I'm watching. I've been watching Beverly Hills from the beginning. And I was like, kind of like, like she said to me too. - And they're us to admit that to her. Like I was like, but then again, I'm like, she's always kind of scandalized that I haven't seen it. - She's smelling. - Beautiful, yeah. - She is exactly as you would see on the program. I'm watching the program being like, she really is, maybe you just miss hanging out with her a little bit. So I texted her being like, I'm watching Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, she's like, wow. (laughs) - Yeah, yeah. - 'Cause it's like 15 years ago, it's like, hey, I'm watching home videos of you. - It's pre-COVID, it's a different world. - Oh, we were just talking about that on the way over here. Do you watch Matt Locke? There's a new Matt Locke with Kathy Bay. - Yes, with Kathy Bay. - Yes, with Kathy, I've never seen it. - I watched Gipsy Rose Blanchard's Life After Lockup. It got to continue now. I watched-- - What did she do in her life after lockup? - The show literally starts. I feel like I'm the only person who watched this because I never hear anyone talk about this. It just canceled now. The show starts with her getting picked up from prison and them going to buy her shoes. Like, you guys, it's the, in a world of people moving into fake houses to be on reality TV. This is as well as real as get. The Gipsy Rose Blanchard at Chew Carnival getting paparazzi. - Oh my God. - I had a heart-killing spot in the movie. - Different time and reality TV. - Oh yeah. - Well now, here's a beautiful question. You're released from prison. Where are you going first? - She gets McDonald's and she gets shoes. - I love her. - I would go, you know what? Turn it on its head. I would go to jail. - Hey, I would just make sure I didn't leave anything in holding. - You're a pick me girl. - I'm going to. - That's a pick me girl. - I'm going to. - Yeah, yeah. - So that's my dad doesn't love me. - I'm going to Taco Bell and I'm going to a fabric store. - You want to go get a job? - Do you know what they need to get for the girls, the drag goons? They need to get, you know how they have like a long-drawn silvers and McDonald's combo or whatever. - Yeah. - They need to get a fabric store, Taco Bell. - Yeah. - I would be in there. - You're here at Chalupa. - I would get a job there. - I would quit dragging, get a job. - Do you guys cook? - No, absolutely. - I'm making a crack. - You just need to buy the ingredients. - Did you know they make one in, what's the restaurant? It's a Thai restaurant in West Hollywood. I can't remember the name, but they make their own version of a crunch wrap supreme. But it tastes just like it. - Oh, interesting. - Yeah, I mean, all you have to do is get the giant tortilla. You get the small crunchy tortilla and you layer it all and then you pan fry it. - Oh, that's fabulous. I'm a Mexican peter than the McDonald's one. Or it's better than the Taco Bell one. - I'm sure McDonald's one is a really weird case. - Oh, yeah, fresh. I'm a Mexican pizza girl. - You are. - I mean, does she have so much. - I only liked that too. - Dolly Parton like that too. - Really? - Mexican pizza. - I love it. It's so good. - Did you have it in school growing up? That was always my favorite day. - I know. - Mexican pizza at school? - Yeah, it was an octagon. - What? - Yeah. - You're not talking about Taco Bell sanctioned Mexican pizza. - This is woke. - No. I'm talking about like, you know, pizza day in school. It's the big rectangle. - Back in my day, there were boys and girls. - But. - Okay. Not Mexican, we she, they, then Mexican pizzas. - Yeah. - Many people were a singular, okay? - Okay. - We were dealing with the plural. - Don't look at me. I'm a her. - She would stay them for a week. - I think the terrifying. - Yeah. - Yeah. - That was hard. It was really hard on everyone in her life. - I do think it's funny that about eight days later, you said so. - Yeah. - We're gonna flip the script. What guess is back, back again, you know? - Yeah, yeah. - Okay. - Mom, I'm straight again. - It's a evolving journey of some discovery. - It really is. - About you for a second. So just know that. - Do you want me to look away? - This is my statement. - Yeah. - She's a completely different person as her fully realized female self. She sucked as a boy. - Did she wear nails? - You know she does. - I'm growing them now. - Why star? - Oh, okay. - She says that every time. No, she's so much better. - She'd be growing them up for years, honey. - Yeah, for years and years. - And then she does have to cut them occasionally. - I'm growing them out. We look over. - I lost three. - I lost three when I was on the plane sowing my new stays. - Okay. - Yeah, she needs, she can't wear nails because she's doing her on my hands sowing on the plane. - I'm so sorry. - Well, because she's on that technology, the plane, she doesn't, it feels like it's too advanced for her. - I have a question. The next note in your show says, it's not that easy being mean. - Okay, now this is her time to shine. That is, that is the number I used to do. I don't do it anymore, but. - It seems like you do. This is from what, last week? - That is from last October. - Okay. - October. - She hasn't washed her clothes. - This was in your pockets since last October. - Apparently. (laughing) - This is Belved, by the way. - This is Belved. - This is Belved. - I do love that. I don't know what they call that sequin where the inside is velvet. - Yeah, yeah. - It's hot though. - It's so hot and that's why I only. - She would have washed it. - Indeed. It was winter when we were. - Oh, it was winter. - It was a different time. And we stayed until I'm square. - Were you outdoors? - No, but we went to Times Square a lot. - It's hard to sleep outside. - Yeah. - But not easy being mean. - I sing the song, not easy being green, but obviously change the name exactly. - Oh, parody word. - Yeah. - parody word. - And I have a lot of auntie. - Kind of Sherry Bonetti. - Oh. - Thank you. - And I always love poo. Or, you know. (laughing) - Is that her song? - She's the queen of a poop song for sure. - That's why you don't have a mom. - You hate poop. - You hate poop. - Her name. - She is absolutely crazy. - She's like, "Just shit my, just shit my pants." Like, "I just shit shit my pants." (laughing) - She's always like, "I shit my pants." - "I shit my pants." - Well, I should have paired tights once in an Uber. Anyway. - Why are you wearing just tights? - It's not very good. - You're very fetal to sit naked with just tights in the Uber. - You never did that? Also weird. - I would go completely ready for the gig. No clothes. You didn't do that? - Recovered memory. Why were taxis so cheap in Chicago back in? - Oh, yeah. - They used to pay you to take a taxi. - They're still a little bit cheaper than Uber. - Thanks, Obama. - Thanks, Obama. - Now what? - Lori Leif, Joe. - I gotta be honest, I'm not loving what Joe Biden's doing in office right now. - It's tough. - The world seems crazy. - Right. - We got it. Someone call your grandpa. Nope. Political humor? Great. I'll save that for Kelly Mantle. - Oh, yeah. Kelly really watches CNN, that fucking bitch. - I love to watch her watch the news. I bet it would freak her out. - Girl, she can only be in touch with what she's in touch with and what she's in touch with is very little. - And how do you-- - How did you all end up like having her a part of all of your live events? Because she's a perfect addition to you and Katiya. - We were coming up with a character that would be like our manager. And I was like, who is deeply available? And you know, drinks on a level that can make my drinking seem kind of, you know? - Are you a drinker? - Not really anymore. - Yeah, same. - I mean, to less than a wine at dinner last night, I was me getting wild. - Do you have a headache today? - No, I'm okay. - Oh, how old are you? - 36. People think I'm older 'cause I'm bald and I look old. - You don't look old? Well, no, we were coming up at the same time. So I thought we were both really young. We were really fresh and young. I started to drag it like 30. That's normal, right? - That was crazy. Yeah, that's right. You were like, hey, I'm old. Hey guys. - Yeah. - I'm saying that. - Because I'm kind of being like, hey, I'm old. (laughing) We were all like, we get it, we get it. - It's because I knew Twink death was coming for me and I was so excited that I was still on life support. So I was showing off. - Can I say it? - For real, it will come for you and you have to develop a person. - Daniel. - You gotta pick up the dumbbell or pick up the wig. - Exactly. - Absolutely. - And I wish you would put down the wig. I also wanna say, I, I, I, I. - Yeah. - You shouldn't say it. - As an educator, former educator, do you think there's some skills that carry over to controlling like a drag off? - Yes. - Right? - Yes. - People management. - Well, I taught special ed. And so I had to deal with people on a daily basis who needed extra support. And whatever I was doing, I had to have three or four different options for how I could communicate that idea. - Right. - When people are drunk in a bar, you have to be ready to either be like, you say, whatever you say, they're gonna laugh or whatever you're gonna say, they're gonna cry, or whatever you say, they're not gonna pay attention at all. They're gonna be in a different room. - Right. - Okay. And that's working at a bar in Chicago. And yeah, you have to learn how to like, talk to a drunk asshole in a charming way. Although sometimes when I would get drunk, I would become the drunk asshole. The first time I ever met Katya, I was wasted. And I tried to fight her outside, Roscoe's. And then. - So you don't have to be drunk to fight her. - Thank you. But I needed it. I needed the confidence. And then the guy at 7-Eleven called the police on me. - The one right on Hellstead, you know, but knowing that it was Katya, I bet she was in perfectly sound mind. - She, can I be honest? She was. - She's probably smoking cigarettes. - She was, she was. She was, and she was chill. And I went up and was like, I don't know why I started to fight her. You know what it was? dominance. She will talk to anyone. She'll talk to anyone as long as she can smoke at the same time. Yeah. She won't fight me with the diet. Go up to her. She's in her happy place. She's at her best. But I don't think she smokes anymore. I tell people that we smoke just it explains our teeth. Yeah, but we don't smoke. Also, it's a great way. You know, when I worked at like a real job, I was always pissed off that smokers go all these extra fucking bad. I was just thinking that. Yeah, I was just I had diarrhea. But I worked at the Mac counter. I'm like, can I go stand outside? I for God, it worked at the Mac counter. Yeah. Remember when Mac was it like you want that girl again. It is. It's coming back. Yeah. I've always. Did you go back to Mac after you launched your makeup line? And you said big mistake. Huge or whatever. No, because I also got fired from there. So what do you do? Nothing. It's a whole story. Nothing. We don't have time. We're wrapping up. Please. I do. There is one more that I want to talk about. Are you really just going through a set list from October? Well, I'm hopefully not doing any of this again. No, we're not. You know, we are. So if you guys go see their live show, make sure that you act. Oh, I want them to overact how new this is. Yeah. Whoa. Whoa. Okay. The sit down show. The seat joke is really enjoyable. So there was a there was a moment in Orlando, though, when I was telling a story and I thought, you've all heard this on the podcast, haven't you? And the whole audience goes, yes. Yes. I know. And sometimes they're too nice to say anything. Yeah. Yeah. But got tonight have absolute brain deaths. So we don't fucking know. Right. Well, you just say like that's part. She just remembered she has an Adam's apple. Yes. Sorry. That was that guy's dad. There is one more point I want to hit. This is this is death equals lady. What's going on there? Darby. Oh, yeah, early on in our in our image of the show journey. Darby had a new death story every single time. Not on purpose. I just find it really interesting when people die. She likes to talk about death. Did you guys used to do lives? Yeah. No. No. Our show started because we used to do your close and personal friends. So do you. So do you do a live. So do you live. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I never catch you guys live. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The so should you drag still? I'm not sure. Wouldn't you know? I don't really know. We're honestly. What? She came up after she was gone. No, you're very close to Soju. That's what reddit says. I've maybe met her a couple times. I'm just kidding. I'm fucking with you. I remember her being extremely beautiful. And then she did a show where she would get drunk on live. Extremely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was so good. Shot was Soju. Shot was Soju. And that's how she decided to do a show. And I was like, well, I can keep going with that. Yeah. And then I'll go on to Chan. Law about Chan and try the best. She's so good. Is she working? Yeah. She's a bit. She's Camara Hall's truly adopted daughter now. She's fucking fierce girl. She's so fine. And then I got jealous. And I said, please don't do anything without me. And so I elbowed my way in. Yeah. Chan said, you are a decade older than me. I'm wasting my time. And so luckily, I have my silver medal ready to go. Yeah. Thank you. I have to be the second or third choice. Yeah. Yeah. That's where I'm comfortable. I like to be in a support. Because alone, you guys have nothing. Yeah. And together, this is, hey, you're here. Yeah. Thank you. And that's and thank you. And that's what it's about. We're putting that on the poster for the next life tour. Hey, we're here. Yeah. Well, how long have you guys worked together now? Oh my God. Got to be pushed in that new year. We started. Oh, I think 14. Wow. Wow. Because we started at hydrate doing. There was like the snow white and the seven drag queens. Yeah. Yeah. And so we would do that. We did that together. Fears. Yeah. So we've known each other for a while. But I gotta say, knowing you as a girl is so much more fun. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But since we fought on stage at VidCon last year, and I thought I heard a bunch of children. You heard about it. I think it's because I have a personality disorder. So I'm really sorry. But I put in my time with you as an undercover boy. This is just my version of that. Of course. We accept the love we think we deserve. So I don't know what happened to you. Well, thank God. I have a boyfriend now. And he's really lovely. Oh, yeah. Nice and hot. And we're going to have to wrap up. Understand. She understood his penis. All of green and put a hat, like a witch's hat. I took a picture. I had an alphabet doll and I put the hat on it. And then in Photoshop, I painted it green. I would never actually do that. The second wicked was so bad. All right. You know what? What? We're going to let Trixie run the show for a whole third one was fierce. Yeah. I love the third one. The third one. Oh my god. When the the munchkins all start fucking. I'm sorry. I've been watching a lot of weird videos. I have to tell you this. I miss Dunkin Donuts. I was this guy. There's one little hot twink guy much like you, not you. Much like you. And his whole thing is that his penis is small. Oh, and he loves that. It's small. And I think that's I think that's beautiful. I don't super care about you. Thank you guys so much. No, I was going to say. I was going to say I don't I really super do not care about smaller, small. Oh, no, we don't need that. That's the point. We love a small one. Fucking life if you care. Sorry, everyone. My dad has a micro penis. Nick Nixon. Anyway, so I click on his video because he's hot. And I'm like, yeah, let's go small penis. And he has his phone like here. And he comes. And then he goes. I'm sorry. Was this in wicked three? This was in wicked three. Yeah. This is the climax. Right. Yeah. Good news. So he comes. And then he looks in the camera and he goes. I told you my little guy would make a mess. If you guys want to see these people, they're online. And you also can you also can he said that you can actually thumbs down this video. And maybe you'll never see them again. And maybe never see us again. We'd like to thank you so much for having us. Are you kidding? I'm so glad. I'm so glad. I'm so glad. Oh, can you give a message of hope to Katya? Oh, yeah. Well, I know that we share a birthday. Oh, is your birthday today and my birthday today. So I we said that already. So you did. You were in the throws of hosting. It's okay. And so I was kind of when you told me that, I was like, Katya's birthday today. Yeah, hospital. Well, and I was like, oh, sure. Katya's out sick on her birthday. And then she posted that also love love that she posted a picture with tubes in her nose with no information. And just said death comes for us all or some shit. I love that. You know, there's a 14 year old girl, maybe she really is sick. Well, I hope you're getting. I saw on Twitter, someone sent someone's been people have been men knowing her. Oh, she's a millionaire. She's a millionaire. Love it. Just send her the money. Oh, well, and her very first act, Trixie Mattel, Alex, and Alex, Alex, his pebbles. Katya, listen, we hope you get better soon. We're sorry. And we're but thanks and strong and together, we can. Well, in my homosexual opinion is a fabulous program that you can check out. Thank you guys so much for joining me. Thank you. The power of the Midwest compels us. Do I do that? I've never been a top. You have a special pink. Everything. Oh, yeah, I have this pink side. And then you guys are on the devil side. We're doing that pink. Like in your house. Yeah, everything's pink. Oh, I love it. You like it. I do. I've never gotten sick of it. You're a runner. That's nice. I can't run anymore because of my arthritis. It's a whole thing. We can't talk about me on the show. Oh, yeah, we can talk about you. Okay. I don't have arthritis, but I do have I did have a ripped but hole for a couple of months. I'll get your number and I'll text you on my questions. Tap that. Please don't. Okay. Bye. Bye. [BLANK_AUDIO]

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The hosts, Darby Lynn Cartwright and Alexis P. Bevel, are drag icons known for their sharp humor and candid discussions about drag culture, personal experiences, and current events.
  2. A recurring theme is their shared history in Chicago’s drag scene, including early performances, drag competitions, and memorable moments like using a Ouija board and dancing in Berlin.
  3. They highlight the evolving nature of drag, such as the removal of talc and tauke due to health concerns, and the shift from drag as performance to street-based, raw expression.
  4. Personal stories include childhood trauma, identity development, mental health (including SSRI use), and relationships with family and partners.
  5. The conversation touches on humor around bodily functions, politics, drag etiquette, and the role of drag in queer community resilience.
  6. They reference their collaborative show, which includes a set list, intermissions, and live audience interaction, often using memes or social media content.
  7. A major emotional moment involves a tragic event during Milwaukee Pride where a drag queen dies, leading to a poignant discussion about community grief and support.

Summary:

Darby Lynn Cartwright and Alexis P. Bevel share a vibrant, humorous, and deeply personal conversation about their lives and careers in drag. Rooted in their Chicago drag roots, they reflect on formative experiences like early performances, drag competitions, and the legendary Berlin scene, where drag was wild, free, and full of improvisation.

They discuss the evolving landscape of drag, including the removal of ingredients like tauke due to allergies and the shift from polished stage performances to raw, street-level expression. Personal stories reveal their journeys with mental health, identity, and family—such as Darby’s journey with SSRIs and her transition from insecurity to confidence. The conversation also explores queer resilience, especially during difficult moments like a tragic event at Milwaukee Pride, where a drag queen’s death prompts a powerful reflection on community support.

Humor runs throughout, fueled by anecdotes about bodily functions, political views, and absurd situations like using a Ouija board or doing cartwheels in New York. They also share insights into their collaborative show, emphasizing authenticity, audience interaction, and the importance of vulnerability. Ultimately, their dialogue blends comedy, personal growth, and cultural commentary, celebrating the unfiltered spirit of drag as both art and lived experience.

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Tauke is a common ingredient in products like makeup and talc that has oil-absorbing and binding properties. It's being removed due to health concerns, including allergic reactions, and because it's known to absorb sweat, which some users find undesirable.

Twin Uendo is a podcast hosted by Darby Lynn Cartwright and her twin brother, who previously served as a pastor. The podcast features their personal storytelling and trauma discussions, blending humor with deep emotional content.

They began performing in Chicago during the early 2000s, gaining experience through drag shows like Miss Roscoe's, where they competed and built a reputation. The scene was vibrant and included live singers, improvisational performances, and strong community ties.

The song is a humorous parody of 'That Don't Impress Me Much,' performed by Darby Lynn Cartwright. It's used in live shows as an improv piece where the performer interacts with the audience, making it a central part of their performance style.

They emphasize the unique energy of live singing in drag shows, noting that it differentiates them from lip-syncing performers. They also highlight how audience engagement, including humor and improvisation, makes each show feel personal and dynamic.

Milwaukee Pride is a significant event in their drag journey, where they co-hosted and experienced deep community connections. It's described as a vibrant, joyful event with large crowds, food, music, and a sense of queer resilience amid hardship.

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