Ilhan Omar PHONE SEIZED, Trump Wants To DEPORT HER w/ Christian Hartsock

The LN Omar saga is getting a bit crazy. Not only did she ever office searched her family's been subpoenaed and now her phone has been seized in the Wall Street Journal says that Donald Trump, the Trump administration is building a campaign to strip her of citizenship. Wow. You can tell I'm a little low energy today. I'm sick and I've been fighting it. I tried to come in to work today and there's probably a bad idea. So I don't know how much I stick around because I was still working in the mornings, but now I'm starting to lose my voice. We got the new DC studio being built and it's almost done. So Friday is going to be a big, big show at our new DC HQ massive new investment. We're going to be hanging out with all the big news network companies are all in the same building. So that's going to be a whole lot of fun. So I'm going to try not to burn myself out before then. Maybe I shouldn't have come in today. But here I am ever the worker Hallick, but the crew is going to pick it up for me. We do have other news, of course. We have some like drunk Democrat, I guess you probably saw the clips. I don't know if she was actually drunk. Maybe that's defamation. So I'm going to say I don't know for sure, but she sure seemed like she was drunk. And I will talk about that. The Trump administration is giving a 40 hour automated California over mail-in voting. Certainly with three weeks after the election, all of this is getting particularly interesting. And then for some reason, Shane Gillis is still big news like they won't stop talking about Shane Gillis calling him sexist. And now you've got CNN calling it a sexism scandal. Yeah, I don't think so. I don't think so at all. You can't have like every woman complain about Sydney Swini being sexy and selling sexuality. And then get mad when Shane Gillis is like, hey, I noticed this thing women are doing. And then we got another story that I want to talk about Ebola, major Ebola outbreak happening in Africa. And it's like it's a big threat to us or anything, but people are certainly interested in what's going on with that. And we'll talk about all that. So my friends, thank you so much for hanging out smash the like button share the show with everyone, you know, joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Christian Hartsock. Hi. Who are you? What do you do? I'm an investigative journalist and filmmaker. I got my start working for Andrew Breitbart when he was alive. I was a founding chief investigative reporter for Project Veritas for 14 years. I produced a few docs for Prager You. I wrote for OEM for Chanel Rion who was on a few, a few days ago. And I continue to do investigative journalism and independent filmmaking. Let's go. We got Daniel hanging out. Oh my gosh. It's so great to be here. Daniel Turner, power the future. Your favorite energy genius. I said that last time. I was the genius. And your favorite Virginia sheep farmer. That's right. So good to be here. Two things. All at once. We got the rest of the boys. Yeah, what's going on? Happy to be here. Happy to be here. Happy to be here. I can curl. Like you said that. And you're like, oh, I'm going to be a little bashful. Oh, that's a fair assessment. Thank you. I'm going to see you. Thanks for coming, Daniel. What's going on, Carter? Dude, I've been in DC all day and the studio is looking really, really good. Nice. Reming of his massive farm. It is amazing. Like you have to see it to believe it, but like, very excited. TV quality. Really. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Daniel, thanks for coming. Of course. Dude, thanks for coming, man. Let's get into it. Well, before we do, we got a great sponsor for you, my friends. It is pds.debt.com/tim. Still stuck in debt after all those payments? pds.debt shows you a way out. Minimum payments aren't designed to get you out of debt. They're designed to keep you stuck. pds.debt is the way out. They can reduce up to half of what you owe on credit cards, personal loans, and medical bills. And it starts with a free 30 second assessment at pds.debt.com/tim. Stop juggling multiple payments and get one lower monthly payment. Saving start the day you complete the 30 second assessment. Checking your options is fast, free, and won't impact your credit. No minimum credit score required. pds is the top rated company in the industry with thousands of five star reviews and an eight plus rating from the Better Business Bureau. Get your free 30 second personalized assessment today at pds.debt.com/tim. Let's jump into that news, massive news. Ilan Omar's phone seized and relative subpoenaed in criminal inquiry source says federal authorities issued more than a dozen grand jury subpoenas in an inquiry into potential immigration fraud. Now this likely has to do with her, her office contacting a variety of source and saying to change her birthday. It was listed by Wikipedia, Minnesota's legislative library as well as Congress as 1981. Yet for some reason, right after she gets elected, she's like, no, no, change it to 82. Could it be that they had a source, a primary source with her birth year correct? The problem is if that really was her birth year, she was ineligible for citizenship through her father, which she claims she got something does not add up. Let me just say this with the least amount of energy I've ever had because I'm struggling with my sore throat and being somewhat sick. This would be an absolute nuclear bomb in American politics. Something like this has never happened before. If it turns out a sitting member of Congress committed fraud to obtain citizenship, it brings all sorts of questions into law. What about every bill she's ever voted on? Do you void these bills? Even if it's one vote, what about deciding votes? What about any bill she's sponsored that became law? What about any bill she drafted that became law? If she is found to have fraudulently obtained citizenship, instantly she's not a citizen. It's automatic. It's defacto. Then they're going to initiate criminal proceedings. I assume or deportation proceedings. But what do you do? I mean, is she instantly just not in Congress anymore? Can a non-citizen be a member of Congress? I'm pretty sure a non-citizen cannot be a member of Congress. I would agree. And I think that, I mean, look, if it does turn out that she did falsify government documents and she was not eligible to become a citizen that way, then she shouldn't be a citizen. I am not an attorney, so I'll ask maybe someone in the room who's smarter than I. Clearly, this was a grand jury that signed the subpoena, right? This wasn't just like the Trump DOJ saying, "Let's go after you. You need a grand jury." Does the grand jury know it's Ilhan Omar, or do they just say citizen A, and here's the evidence against citizen A? Or do they know it's her name? That's a good question. Let me ask the internet. I don't know. Regardless, the grand jury said, "Thumbs up. Look after it. Look into it." Well, my understanding is the judge who signed off on the warrant, the search warrant, was a Clinton donor who was appointed by Judge Boesberg. Oh, wow. Really? Oh, that's my understanding. And Boesberg is a big fan of the Trump administration. That's quite fine. How much of? Yes. Yeah. To be honest, for the situation, that couldn't be a better situation to add legitimacy because people are already, of course, saying, "Oh, she's done nothing wrong. This is nothing but a political witch hunt, et cetera, et cetera." And while there is surely a political aspect to it, the substance does seem to be there. If, as you say, the judge is generally a Democrat, or has Democrat leanings appointed by the Clinton, what did you say, Boesberg, was his— I think appointed him. I believe that. So yeah, Boes—I mean, clearly, this guy's not a far-right, mega-republican, and again, that adds credibility to the indictment. So what I will say to you, Daniel, I have to assume if you're going to agree with grand jury in your like, so we are collecting evidence against an unnamed sitting member of Congress from Somalia who may have lied about her age. They'd figure it out. But apparently, yes, they do know who the target is when they're presented evidence. So the grand jury still said, yeah, this is probably in D.C., which isn't exactly the most inservative right-of-center district. It's remarkable. The idea that the Trump administration gets anything done with a jury or a grand jury for N.D.C. is actually, I mean, again, this adds credibility to the indictment and to the— Well, it's just funny. I don't like first Somali Congress person, and of course, it's like 16 different vectors of attack. Like, take your pick. I mean, like Rashida Tali, you know, AOC, you know, Presley, you name it all of the other people that came at the same—no one's saying they should get deported or that they came at it fraud. We just don't like them. But it's like with Yon Omar, of course, it's like she has like 13 different, you know, instances in which you could probably credibly accuse her of committing fraud. Well, she's not even indicted, though. No, but it just— It's just a penis of a grand jury. And they're also looking into her father's application. Apparently, there may be untruthful filings when he actually— I know. I cannot believe that. I cannot believe that someone from Somalia would lie on their citizenship forms to get access to this country, and then run for office and have this community where they're funneling money from the United States back to Somalia. That is unbelievable to me. Yeah. Waving Somali flags and talking about their country and their people and their culture. And changing the state flag of the United States actual state into a flag that looks very much like— You got Jacob Fry, who's always dancing, right? The mayor there was always waving the Somali flag that video of him trying to choke down the Somali food where he's like—it was like Mark Zuckerberg drinking the Guinness did you see that yesterday? Yeah. And he was like, "Oh, take a big sip." I don't buy that. No, I don't— I saw this clip over and over again. They're like, "Mark Zuckerberg pretending to like Guinness." And I'm like, "He didn't do anything." I think he's just like— Like, Sipton would like— Well, the— Probably wasn't even thinking anything at all. The thing is, with Mark Zuckerberg— With Mark Zuckerberg, if he looks awkward, that's kind of standard Mark Zuckerberg behavior. I'd be freaked out if he started behaving normally. I'd be like, "What happened?" Yeah. It's when you know. it's the robot. When the Jacob Freire, whatever was eating the Somali food, he kept chewing it. He was like chewing it for like a minute while stirring, and I'm like, is he savoring it? He's really enjoying it. He's pushing the food around. Just keep moving around your mouth and maybe it will change the texture. I guess the thing about Ilhan, though, changing the birth certificate, I guess for all the woks out there, if you can go from male to female on your birth certificate, why can't you go from 82 to 81? That's far less consequential than that. Exactly. He feels younger. Yeah. He feels younger in here. Yeah. Why is your date of birth? Well, she can just identify as being born in America. Exactly. And to be fair, if you look at the Somali language, I mean, it's like chicken scratch. Like it looks like weanedangs or whatever. So it's pretty conceivable that he would mess up the paperwork because he's probably just doing the, like scribbling over the papers. Like that's my language. So yeah, I imagine every single one of them, yeah. So I imagine every single one of them commits fraud just on accident because that's what their language looks like. It literally looks like a chicken scratch and out the floor. I mean, it's unbelievable. Indolinian. Okay. See, anchor said that. That's literally like tattooing language. Yeah. Kind of serious. The NBC anchor, Ken Delaney, and said that today when he was asked about it, and he said, like, everyone kind of fudges a little bit their citizenship application. Yeah. If we were to scrutinize everyone who applied, of course there's going to be like, it's just like everyone lies. So why are we going after the Congresswoman liar? I was just amazing, default level, level four there. I go five over. I go five over sometimes. Yeah. She commits immigration fraud. And everyone applying for citizenship as a liar, basically, Ken Delaney just threw out there. They're all fudging the facts to be American. Like, great. Let's bring more of them. Yeah. Let's bring them all in and give them housing. I think that's good for America that people lie to break our laws. Yeah. That's too crazy. That's just a crazy language. Just look at that. It's like saying script. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Uniform. What's this? I don't speak scribbles. Ellen Omar's sister incorporated her $20 million USAID company using the same home address as major, feeding our futures convicts, Daily Wire Found. This finding links Sara newer to the largest fraud in the state history as Ellen Omar refuses to cooperate with investigators. She signed a 340 B deal for her clinic with a pharmacy that lost its license in 2017 but remains active as Omar steered public money to her clinic while claiming no family interest. Family members have received grand jury subpoenas holy crap can even use different addresses. How are these people? It's just absurd. Look. Doesn't look good. When you've got these accusations and the Democrats come out and they're like, this is politicking, Trump's going after his political enemies. You can't even clean up Somali fraud in our country because it's offensive politically. So I don't know where we are as a country when let me just, let me just put like this. I would like someone to go back in time and meet the founding fathers on that fateful day when they're, you know, we're going to sign the declaration and be like in 250 years, there will be a Somali and member of Congress accused of defrauding the country stealing money and funneling it back to Somalia. And that will be, that's not even the half of it. I just want to see what they think. Yeah. Maybe they'll be like, should we do another amendment that says like people not born in this country can't hold off his period. What was the honest question? Why did the founding fathers in a serious question? Why were they like, you can't be president unless you were born here, but you can be anything else. You can be in the Senate. You can be in Congress. You can be a mayor. Why would they just be like, not only people born here can hold office because they didn't anticipate people like not born in northwest Europe even coming to the country like that. That makes perfect sense because a lot of the founding fathers weren't born, but they're born in Scotland or England. There's a massive difference between, you know, Northern England and Somalia. They couldn't even perceive that people would come from Italy, you know, let alone Somalia and if you read, like you can read our founding documents, they're very clear who this is for and like you can hate this or you can love this, but it's just you have to be accurate here. It's this freed white man. Actually, no. In article two, section five, it says and Somalians. I'm saying, that's the actually ralsian reading of it. For what, for what it's worth, they would have said, what's a Somalia because Somalia didn't exist as a common housing. Yeah. What is Somalia? They'd be like, what's Somalia? I have no idea which one. They literally called the mohabadans back then. They even have a word muslim because they were just like, they, they think mommits, they're Jesus. Okay, they're mohabadans. I mean, Hamilton's the most famous of the, of like some of the founding fathers who was clearly not born on continental U.S., we was born like Trinidad or where the hell was born in St. Croix? St. Croix. One of the islands, but like Danish and then British. But still he was a British, he was a member of, he was a subject of the king at the time like they all were. But were there any other founders who were not born in continental U.S.? Was anyone from Germany? Yeah. Was anyone born in? Like a couple were. Yeah. A lot of them were born, uh, uh, what's a St. Clair? He was born in Scotland, um, they were, they should be ready for this question. They were all born in like British, it was all British or British, Jason is 10 to 15 of them. No one was a German. Right. No one was born in. Oh, no, no. Good Lord. They Germans weren't not. They didn't want a Dutch or Dutch or how we go. Button Gwinnit was born in England. Okay. Francis Lewis, Wales, Robert Morris, England, James Smith, Ireland, George Taylor, Ireland, if you Thornton, Ireland, James Wilson and John were the spoon were in Scotland. So there's all bread. And the Irish ones. Oh wait, there's more. Those are Anglo-Iars. It's all those. Hamilton was born in Nevis, Nevis. Nevis, that's right. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, Patterson, McKenry, Butler, Fitzsimmons were Ireland, William Richardson, Davey, England. These were, uh, constitutional convention delegates and signers. Right. So there wasn't even like Thomas Paye was born in England and Marquis Day Lafayette was in France. Yeah. And that's as diverse as they get. Diversity was just people from other white countries and they just made jokes about them all the time. Not even that. Have you ever seen the frog look up the Benjamin Franklin Swarth map who he determined to be white or not? Yeah. Look up Ben Franklin Swarth map. This is very real. He didn't even view like the Highland Scots as white let alone. Let alone. No, they did Hadrian. Right. Oh yeah. Swarthy. This is the official Swarth map. This is, this is what our immigration policy. On white, ony and swallowing. This is my onerotic immigration ball. Oh, that's media matters. Please clip that. That is my art key complex down there in the Scandinavia. Oh, the wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on. Wait, this can't be real. It is real. Northern Ireland, but not the rest of Ireland, because Northern Ireland was English and Scottish. I know, but it didn't turn them white complexion nor whales, but he was like the Irish. He's like the Irish to Celtic to weird Northern Irish. That's our people. Not the Welsh. Not the Welsh and not Cornwall because these are basically, you're just basically looking at who's Protestant and like Northern European besides the Scandinavians. What is this source on this enchanted learning? It's the official source. I'm trying to find a better source. It took it from one of his, one of his, like various letters, his body and when he was in Paris when he wrote back to his body in America. What is tawny? Uh, tawny is old for just black, I think. Obviously it's turkey, yay, some of the turks, so I think everyone else is worthy. Like, yeah, it's great. I can't find a better map than this to be honest. So I don't know. It's the map that always goes around. This one. This Swiss are pretty swarly looking when you see them, right? They look like you Germany. They're all blonde and blue. Well, he might like you in, but he's clearly just like, okay, I like Protestant Europeans. I don't like the Scandinavians. I don't know where his heads are. I'm not made to pagan. I don't know. That's great. The whales, whales, and then if you look in the bottom, he doesn't the Cornish. He's not a big fan of the corn. All right. Here's a slightly better one. Yeah, true. I mean, this is pretty much what you know, like, like, like, this is different. Ireland itself was also, this makes more sense, no, it makes sense that Northern Ireland would be separate because that at the time Northern Ireland was all Protestants from Britain. Tawny. Saxons are white, but other Germans are swarthy. Swarthy. Classification unclear. It's time. It's time. It's time. It's time. It's time. It's time. Yeah, what is it? I don't think this is a different map. It's a different variety. They both have tawny. That one is much more accurate to what he's talking about because only half of Germany he would have considered white because the upper half of Germany was Protestant and then the sun was gone. Light brown to brownish orange people. I love how the Scandinavians are swarthy. It makes a cut. Yeah. All right. Too pagan. You know, Sweden, the land. Yeah. It's like the town or brownish orange color much like the shade of tan leather or lion's coat. Can you imagine? An Icelandic guy move next door? Oh, no. Oh, there goes the neighborhood. A bunch of dames. Here we go. Oh, this is from an essay. Observations concerning the increase of mankind. That's the origin of that map. Yeah. Is there a map somewhere on here? Well, he might have drawn a map, but he probably told you which parts he thought. It's probably. Yeah, just. He probably just said GLDR on Protestant Brits. And Germans. He said Native Americans are tawny, Africa and Asian are black or tawny. Asia was chiefly tawny. He argued the number of purely white people was small, mostly to the English and the Saxons while labeling Germans, Swedes, Russians, French, Italian, and Spanish as swarthy. Yeah. So I favored like the Saxons. Fair enough. He knows ball. My favorite Ben Franklin, in fact, toyed as he was fighting for a revolution. His son was the last loyal governor to the crown, right? Governor of Jersey. Yeah. He never reconciled. No. No, he went back to England. Yeah. He was undead. Yeah. Which is tragic, right? I mean, you don't think about the fact that it was, to a certain extent, the Civil War also. Yeah. Like half the country were loyalists and a lot of them left and brother fought brother. And yeah, Ben's own son was the loyal governor to the crown and died a monarchist. That's kind of remarkable. Yeah. The immediate occasion for writing this essay, according to Vandorn, was that British Iron H. of 1750, which prohibited erection of additional slitting and rolling mills, plating forges and steel furnaces in the American colonies. I love that that's like his prop and he's like, you know what, let me just, you know, who's not white the Welsh? You know, while we're on the topic of iron, these cornish, I mean, what's the deal with these guys? You've seen the eyebrow ridge on these guys? I mean, come on. Can we get the cranial measurements out or re-series it? That's what he is. This is what's going on in 1750. Collinson, Richard Jackson, we're greatly entertained by it. So basically, they're like, I didn't, I don't find anyone who has hit it off so well. He was a pistol, you know, his glazing, they're like, he nailed it. His salons in his house and he would gather people to have these, it was Tim Kast back in the day with an audience and they would drink heartily and they would just talk and have lofty conversations and lofty conversation, and he was, he was just a pistol. I mean, Ben Franklin was probably the one I would like to have met the most. Ben Flanders, Swarth, Swarth said he knew he was talking about Ben Flanders. Okay, Turks, but like Greek. And he was so old, he was so old, he was like 60, but I guess there were like 19, so he was old. Yeah, he was ancient. He was ancient. He was retired. I bet you can get him to say something about the Greeks. Right, that oyster Scott, he's like white, he's like, was Aristotle, was Aristotle white? It's like short and customary, let me just sort of, sort of had, oh, it's like studying your cranial measurement. Oh, Tony, just imagine what he'd be saying right now about everything in the United States. Well, the map would look exactly the same almost. So we had people of the opinions that the founders had, we wouldn't have the United States that we have. It would be a very different place. Yeah, we had a Baptist president, you know, you're like, oh, that's the least. Some of the upcoming members of Congress who are going to win sadly because of their district, but like they realize, I forget her last name, Brooklyn Queens, Chelleveye, yeah, whatever it is. The one who's always talking about that, yeah, she's always talking about the importance of Mexico or Mexican heritage, I mean, they just flat out flaunted, and I do think people like Ben Franklin wouldn't just be horrified, they'd be, they'd be looking towards some sort of punitive measures, right? Like you can't run for Congress and say, I'm going to wave the Somali flag or even the fact that they couldn't get the bill passed that you can't have dual citizenship, which I don't think is a hard thing to ask. No, not at all. You shouldn't have dual citizenship as a member of Congress who appropriates tax dollars. Yep. You can in lots of other circumstances, but if you're appropriating federal tax dollars, you can only have one loyalty. Absolutely. If you're, I do wish that the founders had said, like, if you're going to be in government at all, if you're going to be in the federal government, you must be born un-American just like the stipulation for the president. You have to be born here because, and honestly, I don't think it would be a bad idea if it was like, you have to be born in the, in the state that you're looking to represent. Yeah. Right. So, you can't be like, pardon, like, forget about carpet beggars. You can't go down to South Carolina and be like, I'm going to move to South Carolina and run for office in South Carolina. I think you have to actually have a connection to the place that you are trying to represent. And being born there is probably the best connection that you have. That would disqualify Steve Hilton from our current range. I mean, look, it would disqualify a lot of people. You know, there's a lot of, there's tons of people who would disqualify Ilhan Omar. But it's like, we wouldn't have to qualify Ted Cruz. But if we had a pre-hard sell or like immigration system, we wouldn't need to have this conversation. It wouldn't have occurred to anybody. They'd be like, yeah, well, he's born in Brittany, came here when he was like, you know, 18. He's bought in. But now that we have these super exotic immigrant groups, now we're having to have this conversation. When again, there's so many instances of our history where the founders like meant what they said, but because we've just deviated so far from like what original America looked like, now we have to go back and sort of correct what we perceive as their mistakes to no fault of their own. I want to know how far things have gotten away from sort of that core American product. Even the pre-hard seller wouldn't cover what I was just talking about. The carpet baggers were-- Well, the carpet baggers is a different thing. Yeah, that was a big phenomenon during like after the Civil War, there was a lot of people moving to a different place. I think you should actually have a connection to the place that you want to represent. If you want to represent-- That's interesting. Yeah, you have to have an interest. You have to. And it's not just enough to have a house there. Like you should actually have to have been born. If you want to represent Massachusetts, you have to have been born in Massachusetts if you want to represent New Hampshire or any other state. We would have lost that. Speaking of things that would be shocking and offensive to the founding fathers, we got the story from Fox News. Democrats, candidates, bizarre anti-maga tirade ends with we have guns too. This clip's been going massively viral, but I got to stress, it's not just this one clip about we have guns too. The whole interview she did was nuts. Let's see if we can get this one going. Okay, and our last question of the night is if elected, what is one decision that you expect to make that may be unpopular with some voters, but you believe ultimately would be in the best interest of Fayette County? I wouldn't raise your taxes. That's good. What is the one decision that I would make? Hmm. No, she's tanked. Yeah, she sounds drunk. Repetitive. What is the one decision that I would make that might not be popular with fake guns? Maybe unpopular with some voters, but is in the best interest of the county. Firing armor, Republicans, I wouldn't let them, I mean, I don't even talk to them, I don't like them. I mean, they voted against our Stone State representative voted against her own party. What? What does that mean? When do you want me to say I don't like being around them, I mean, y'all did this to us, you all voted for us, you made this happen, I'm actually impressed. Coming into our communities, stealing people's jobs, I mean, wait, I've been threatened so many times to my face by MAGA, because there's Republicans who actually get it. You know, there are good Republicans out there, but, you know, what are you going to do? Well, that brings us to your opportunity to say just a few last words to the voters. We have guns too. All right. I was reminded the general election is November 3rd, or? I just want to clip that response. That's what we should do. We should have one interview where every candidate's hammered, because then you can like extract the real thoughts. She was probably crushing before. My favorite part was the, the Invino Veritas debate where everyone just has to do a shot, and then by the end of the night, it's like, what do you really think on immigration? Yeah. But she say ice is stealing our jobs. Yes. Yes. She's got to be drunk off of her. Oh, yeah. Clearly. Ice coming and stealing our jobs. I was like, what? Yeah. Does she mean like they're stealing the people working the jobs? Is that what she was trying to say? Yeah. See, if you just clip like a certain segment of it where she was like, I don't like them, I don't like getting around them. Absolutely. I'm like, that would be sick. But then you look at Bigger Scope and turns she's talking about like conservatives. Yeah. She rolled it back to not all conservatives, but Maga, so I have a new ones. I have conservative friends, but I don't like them. I think she's just, I think she's black out drunk. Now we have to track and see if she wins. She doesn't know where she has no recollection of that, of that. Yeah. She only knows about it because it was recorded. We got to see if she's what, what office is she running for? Eight county. I'm assuming Tennessee. Yeah, Fayette County Council. It's like Arkansas. Arkansas. Here's what I was saying earlier. It's not even a prominent position, but it will be the Democrats brand. Yeah. Yeah. I heard that I got that. And your local council and city council and council. Look at that. I want to go to you, Jamie. How are you today? Here's the full area. I was wondering where this started. I'm just going to jump ahead in it's a rule communities, especially our schools. Just because like I want to highlight, you can hear the slurring. Yeah. Expression. And our mark. I love the schools. I'm told this for the schools and the teachers. But our emergency services, what are the ones that we really need to worry about? She's pretty. And I spoke to the fire. She's either having a diabetic episode or I'm sorry, she is plastered. The fire chief today, Scott Jones and he is also very worried about what will happen to the fire stations and might need to clear clean up something and it makes us say. Wow. But they brought up this one point. Now what's the whole thing earlier? And I was like, dude, she's plastered. It's like Kleenex. He's tanked. And. I'm jealous. This is awesome. I haven't even been drunk. Three years. That if. I had wine at dinner. We don't do something different, which means to me, it means voting for Democrats. We will lose one of our fire houses. It doesn't know which one yet, by 2029, we're going to lose it. Are you okay with that? I'm not. Okay, Peyton, who was just here, she, I was at a town hall meeting with her, a new tenant governor, Beckworth, and she -- Oh, it's Indiana. It's not a old Beckworth. To him, for emergency service money, and he looked at her and he was like, oh, I'll look into it. And two minutes later, he said, we don't have enough money for your emergency service. but we have enough money to do the redistricting, which we fought one. - She cannot even say half her words. - Nobody's taxes get raised. - She's taken. - I want the legislation, the state legislators, we have a surplus. I want to see them give that money back to their communities, 'cause we've paid enough in Texas. - Okay. Moving on to our next question, and that is if you could choose only one major area for Fayette County to invest more money in. Over the next four years, roads and infrastructure, public safety, economic development, quality of life, or another area, which would you choose and why? - Mental health. - That's a hard decision. - That's a hard decision to make, 'cause there's so many that we need. But I would choose our emergency services. - Our emergency services. - She is, you know what? I respect it. It's pretty remarkable the moderator is letting this happen. - Well, what is she so professional like? What does she do? Ma'am, are you drunk? - She probably smells it all over. - How do you have been some kind of interaction pre-taping? Are you sure you want to go through with this? And maybe she was like, "Yeah, no, I got this. "I got this." - I don't know. I'm kind of into it. I'm kind of thinking that I should shut up to an interview drunk. - Could you do this show? I mean, it would be fun. - No, for real. I'm drunk. - If I showed up just like drunk off my ass on this show, we'd get a bunch of press. - When was the last time you were drunk off your ass? - As I said, years ago. And I wasn't drunk off my ass, but-- - Years ago? - Years? - Oh, yeah, I don't drink. I went with my wife to a five-course dinner. And I was like, "I don't drink, "but let's do the wine pairing." It would be nice, 'cause my wife likes wine. And so you get a glass of wine with each course. And I was, "Woo!" One glass of wine knocks me out. - Wow. - That all ever. - Yeah, I do. I like alcohol. - No, no. - I drink regularly. - I had a glass of wine last weekend. - Okay. - Glass of wine. It's about red, good stuff. Sometimes, you know, it's got the antioxidants. It's good. But I think it tastes bad. I don't like any of it. - The swery of the people drunk a lot of red wine. - Oh, it's good wine. - That's why they live so long. - Actually, I had two glasses of wine this past weekend. - Wow. - You go and you like up and-- - Two different days. Not at the same time. - Up and so recently, like, everyone was just hammered all of the time. (laughing) - Like, I feel like in the Northeast. I mean, people were just trashed. I mean, you like read through this. And like, what people's daily routines were like. It's like, "Ten, I am." "Yeah, what about a gin and tonic?" - Like Mary. - You're like, "What is going on?" - Oh, literally. - But people were just trashed at all times. - That's hotty. - And I think it does, yeah. And I think it explains a few things. One thing I do think it explains is like the-- - Birth rate? - Well, that's a good point. But like, the whimsies used to see back in the day. Like, you know, a congressman beating the crap out of each other on the center floor. - Weather underground. - Yeah, just like, people were forming these different ideologies. You know, like, communism, like, fascism. Those are probably just people who are judged drunk. - They used to pay for me. - That takes forever. - And also, yeah, they had like beer breaks and all that kind of stuff. - Yeah, I don't want to vote. I'm too drunk to go vote. Let's just do that. - No vote. It's no elections. - Is it legal to be like, free booze day on the other side of town from the polling stations? Because anybody who's gonna choose drinking over vote and shouldn't be voting anyway, and anybody who's really ideologically determined is gonna go vote. - That would be interesting. - Yeah. - Some bars should try that. - Giving away for us way too much money, man. - I'm sure it would be way too much. It has been done. - Just you know what you do. Here's the trick. - It has been done. - You guys know what skull is? - The dip dip. - Not what? - Yeah, I know what skull is. - If you do want something, you want to back up. - You want to back up. - No, it's barcut in vodka. - Oh. - You get red, yeah. - Yeah. - Here's a fifth for $3. Wait, what? Oh my god. Can I pull this one up? - Like drinking rubbing alcohol. - Check this out. My friends. Here's what you do. You buy, oh, okay, it's a lie. That's not the bottle. It says $3.75. But you buy skull and then you pour it into like a higher end, you know, like a gray goose. Because eight nobody can tell the difference, right? Who knows? His vodka. So you can buy the $3 vodka, put it in the $5 vodka bottle, and then be like, it's free. - Yeah. - And you know, none's the wiser. Don't actually do that I'm kidding. - Well, I didn't do it with skull, but when I was young and poor living in DC, and I would go to Costco, the Costco in DC sells alcohol. Not every Costco does, but in DC are allowed to. And I would keep like my gray goose bottle of vodka and I would buy like Kirkland's own brand vodka and dump it in the gray goose bottle. Because if you had people come over and they'd be like, oh, you got good vodka. I was like, yeah, I got, but you know, I was broke. And I think I was making $28,000 a year as a hill staffer. So I couldn't afford gray goose, but I could afford Kirkland in the gray goose bottle. So yeah, it has been done before. Hard to do with other things if someone, but again, when you're 23, no offense to 23-year-olds or 25-year-olds, it's harder to have a good palette, right? So no 23-year-olds gonna be like, that's not gray goose. A 50-year-old alcoholic like me will be like, that is not Makers Mark or that is not whatever. - Two liters of skull is $13. I looked up, I'm sorry, school. I hate to rag on you. Also, when you search for skull, skulls, surface, disinfectant, gallon also comes up. It's more expensive than the skull is actually. - Yeah, I used to drink a lot. And there was definitely times, we're definitely times where I would drink significantly subpar booze because that was there. That was what was available. And I didn't care. - No, bro, bro, wait, hold on. - It's all a Taka vodka. - Who was? - It's heard of Taka vodka. - No. - I think so, yeah. - $4 a pot. - Taka. - Terrible. - Oh wow. - It sounds like-- - I wish I had known that trick. I would have taken a bottle of kettle one. - Yeah. - And just dump it in. - Okay, wait, here's another option for you. - Okay, here's another option for you guys. Have you ever had a king cobra? - I have had a king cobra. - $3.49 for a 40 ounce of malt liquor. - One of the-- - I don't know how to drink malt liquor. - When I was a teenager when I was like 18, 19, me and my friends, it was like a dollar. - Edward 40 hands. - Yeah, we had Mickess. - The malt. - And you duct tape your hands to the party. But it was like for a dollar, you get drunk. And for two dollars, you get real drunk. - But I-- - Edward 40 hands was one of the drunkest days that I had on all of us. - Edward 40 hands. - Edward 40 hands. - For people that don't know, you tape two 40 answers to your hands. You kind of try to get through the first one as fast as you can because you need the hand free. So that way, you can take a leak because you know that it's-- - Oh, I was gonna say you need a hand free to get another 40. - Oh, but the point you made though about how people used to always be somewhat drunk as just recreation. - That was normal. - It was common. You can find online Winston Churchill's daily alcohol consumption. And a lot of people have tried to re-create it in their day and do their job. And it's remarkable. I mean, just someone who is perpetually always a little inebriated, you know, the bottles of brandy, the bottles of champagne. You wake up in the morning and you have champagne. Chris, what you do? - Chris Car is telling me that there's entire law enforcement arms dedicated to making sure bars don't put cheap liquor and high-end bottles. Major jail time, if you're busted. - No, I know. Don't do that. I was joking. - Residence. - Let alone to convince the generates not to vote. - It's like you can go vote. - But the free booze and the other set of tone. - Yeah. - Yeah, that has been done before. - I think you haven't been able to talk about that when it was here. - Just like figure out where the main polling stations are. They'd be like, but 40 miles out of town is free sex drugs and rocket roll. - Yeah. - So you can go vote. - Or. - Yeah. - I'm actually surprised we don't see that because you could just put on a festival on election day. Far out of town, so it's hard to go vote. Because the only people who are going to go to that are going to be more likely to be degenerates, so. - Well, it's like if you're in a long, like say you're Republican and the deep blue district, then yeah, you could potentially find out what are the locals really enjoy that give me the best, because you know, you're down 70 points. You might as well try whatever you can. - It's tough to say. - Yeah. If you needed like a real purple state to swing and you wanted, like for example, you wanted none of the Somalis to vote this week, or this day in Minnesota, you hire like the greatest boy band in Somalia, and you say like free concert in the park, and then all the Somalis go to the concert, and they don't vote. So you would just, it would be an easy way to divert them. - Yeah. - Or you'd do the opposite, which is what Hillary did. Technically the largest rally of 2016, what a rally at State College, Pennsylvania, the night before the election, it was bigger than every Trump rally. She had Madonna, Katy Perry, Bon Jovi, Bruce Springsteen. - 40. - I mean, she had everyone there. So everyone at State College was like, yeah, I'll go to a free, be on say. I'll go to a free concert with like eight of the biggest stars in history. - Right. - Hillary Clinton was like, we had the biggest rally ever. It's like they didn't vote for you, but they were like, thanks for the free show. - You really have the biggest rally, or was it just a free concert? - Exactly. It wasn't really a rally, it was a free concert. - Yeah. - Who's this MC and the band suit? - The band suit, what's her name? - And then Kamala did the opposite. Remember, she would tell people Beyonce is gonna be there. And Texas, she did that. And everyone showed up. Beyonce is gonna be there. And she was, she didn't sing. She just went on stage for two seconds. And was like, vote for Kamala. And the people were like, "F you, like seriously, I didn't come to hear that." I came to sing, you know, one of your songs. - I'm gonna bow out and rest my voice, because you can already hear. It's pretty bad. And my throat's certain. But I made it 40 minutes, not to mention the other four hours. the other four hours I already recorded. So boys, big day. Thank you everybody for watching. Thanks for hanging out. It's been a blast. We got a big party coming up for election day. It's going to be absolutely nuts. We're going to be streaming like 12, 13 hours. It'll be pizza, I guess. Daniel, you're going to be there. I will be there to be amazing. Hey, it's going to take the chair. Rest up to charge. And then I'm hopefully back tomorrow. I tried to come in today, but I don't want to, you know, if I don't rest, then I get sicker longer. Yeah. And Friday's going to be a big day. So I'm going to I'm going to call from here and then have you voice. They go. All right, that's good, man. Oh, the young and is in charge. Yeah. The young and is in charge later, a little changing of the guard here. All right, where we head? From CNN, everyone has weighed in on the Shane Gillis monologue controversy, except SNL trying to shame us. Oh, Tim did what am it? It's like rookie, we're rookie of the year. What's going on? We're not, we're not going to read a subscription. You guys knew what went down, uh, Shane Gillis, uh, goes on SNL biggest comedian in the world. Obviously, there's any debate about that goes up tells a joke that I clocked as pretty innocuous. This is an observation I've heard. Um, and, you know, various phrasing from just about every man I think I've ever met my entire life, which is these women at the gym are like totally, you know, ho and out. It's getting wacky and wild. They're wearing skin tight clothing. And then they set a flock camera up on the ground. So if they've been detect your iris, even comes near them, you know, they send your content. And they take it and they send it to Palantin, or whatever God who knows, I don't know who gets involved in that. But I've seen a lot of guys lives get destroyed because of this. Uh, SNL has not actually given their thoughts on what happened. Uh, I would guesstimate. Maybe there's a freight of blowback from the world's largest community that want to ruin that relationship. You're California, right? That you guys, that's, this is your domain, Hollywood. What's going on? I mean, you know, my thoughts about the joke are he said they look like, do we say, do we say horrors? Uh, yeah. So, I guess so. He said they look like them. He didn't straight up call them. Yeah. Which, uh, I, I guess there's no, um, attention and nuance there. But, uh, because the way, yeah, the way this is the, this is the huge bunch of women horrors in the gym. Um, he said, he said they look like it. Um, I don't know. I mean, I will say I watch SNL. It's really only the opening, the open, well, the, the, the only two segments that tend to be political or the weekend update and the, the cold opening, everything else. It's actually pretty impressive. Some how a political, how revolutionarily a political a lot of the segments are. So it doesn't totally surprise me that SNL is not, you know, coming forward and, you know, they very well might, you know, by the end of the showtaping. But I don't see, I don't see SNLs as the, the woke, uh, show that a lot of people say it is. I completely agree. I'm glad you've said that because this is in my take. I just don't think it's very fun. Like the problem is not very funny, which is completely different from, uh, you know, being just obnoxiously woke because I've tuned in an SNL too. I'm like, okay, like clearly the writing room is probably majority liberal, but it's not like this hack, you know, leftist, you know, nonsense. I think it was there maybe a few years ago. Um, but when I watched, I'm just like, it's not very funny, but I think maybe for a certain demographic, it's hilarious. But to be fair, um, obviously wasn't alive. But I've spoken to people, you know, old heads and they're like, well, you look at Prime SNL, if you actually sat down and watched the show on Saturday, it's not like you're falling off your chair the entire show. It's just we're looking back at the greatest moments. But how many, you know, bits were there from SNL back in the day that no one's ever seen again just because they were so terrible. That's, that's a, that's actually a good point because there is a cannon of, you know, of segments. We, we all remember. Um, but this, or you could probably count on your, on maybe two hands, what there's the cowbell. There's what were some of the other ones. Um, like the most, like Jarra, maybe like, let's say, well, most people say the primes what late 80s into the mid 90s. Yeah, as far as Farley's probably like the dark period, right? Where the late 80s is when they pulled out of it. Late 80s. Yeah, so like that's when Chris Farley came in. Yeah, 90s was being down by the river, down by the river, double nails, dancer, nails, you know, um, yeah, down by the, yeah, a couple of years, but, but you're right. Like, for every one that we remember, how many were there that we don't remember. So I don't, I think people are a little, a little hard on SNL these days, because I think there are some funny segments. I agree a lot of them are like, what the hell was that? But I think we can update. It's pretty funny. Yeah. And I think it's, except when they do the skits, I hate when they bring in the musical guests. Well, it's another one where you can tell that both those guys are probably Democrat voters, but they do. Again, it's an unpopular take on conservative media, but when you watch, like, Chey, and I think I slipped my mind. Oh, Scarlett Johansson, Joe, Colin, Joe, you can tell they're both like Democrats or whatever, but they do a pretty good job. Yeah, nothing obnoxious. Like, so I like, I, I overexposed myself to, to all the crap. And I watch, you know, all the, all the comedy central shows and some of them, you know, except for when John Stewart does it where he can actually be legitimately funny. Everything else is so cringe. And so it's all clambed, or SNL is not clear. They're still actually making a good faith ever to be funny. Lauren Michaels has said, you know, we actually do try to, we just try to find the humor and stuff. So I don't know. I mean, I guess I'll, I'll be kind of the, at the resident SNL defender. My only knock on SNL is that for four years of Biden, they just ignored him as a person. Yeah, whereas they've always made fun of, I've actually avoided Obama for eight years, probably because they were afraid to imitate a black person, quite frankly. And if they ever did do a skit of him, it was Chris Rock playing like Barack, the Rock Obama, you know, Obama was this awesome powerhouse, but like they, they rarely made fun of him the way every president is, and clearly Trump is very easy to make fun of, right? Trump made fun of himself. He makes fun of himself. I wasn't alive. Where they has nasty with bush as they were. Oh, oh my gosh. I mean, not, not, not as nasty, but brutal. But I mean, how do you look like four years of, of like Biden wandering off stage, like you just ignore him? There's some hilarious. There's a lot of good material. If, if SNL is smart and you know, their staff is listening to this show, lean into it this Saturday, all media is good media. And the fact that everyone is talking about it means everyone wants to tune in this Saturday. Yeah, and your opening skit, you should, you should, they had such a humor, they'd be like, and now doing a repeat stay enough is Shane Gillis. People would die with laughter, or they do a gym bit, or it's like the women are just wearing unacceptable. They do like bars. Yeah, like sense. Yeah, like a, like a, like a naked gym bit, but like exactly what they're like, they blur out everyone who's lifting weights, like have fun with it. And that's probably why they haven't leaned in because they're like, this is great. Everyone's talking about our show. That's what we want to do when Hollywood has everyone talking about our show. Yeah, I mean, that that is kind of that you that used to be the goal, but now they run the risk of the outrage mob, which I do think is a very small segment of, you know, the media and the population, probably a larger portion of the media, but they're going to be outraged because we've made this argument on the show many times. Woke never went anywhere, right? It was beaten back, but those people still exist and the their perspective, their worldview, doesn't just evaporate. So the people that kind of push this that you can't make a joke about this, your offensive, et cetera, et cetera. Those people didn't just stop feeling that way. So woke isn't going to go anywhere. It will get a resurgence. There will be people that will attempt to do this kind of, you know, cancel mob or whatever. And like we said earlier, what Shane Gillis said isn't particularly offensive, right? Because, and it's not even offensive to the people that are most upset because the people that are most upset as we mentioned before, they were making a big stink about Sydney, Swini, only a few weeks ago. Yeah. And so the situation is, you know, it's the fact that Shane Gillis said it. It's who said it. The same thing. The guy who made the biggest deal out of it, who did that video. He's Eugene Levy's son. Yeah. Right. Has I'm curious. Has he seen American pie? Do you know what your dad has has started before? Right. That's it. You know what? Some of the Christopher gets that it's a brilliant insight. Well, but you're the first I've heard say that the response would be, yeah, well, we don't make the same jokes that we made on blazing saddles. Yeah, because blazing saddles, you know, Mel Brooks had has made some, some comedy that today would be, you know, you'd, you get in all kinds of trouble. Yeah, I mean, Quentin Tarantino's made movies that nowadays people, people still talk about the movie like pulp fiction. But I feel like they don't talk about any of that. The skits in it or any of the, any of the parts in it because if they do, you're not even allowed to say you're not allowed to say what the actor said. Yeah, you know, again, this depends on who you are, obviously, the, the identity politics still follows. But the, the, the argument that Shane Gillis said something that was so offensive. It wasn't, he still sold out Madison Square Garden or whatever. Like, I mean, I think he made a, he broke a Guinness book record, you know, and he'll do it again. And he'll do it again because this isn't actually real to most people. This is a very vocal, very small group of people that are upset about this and they're going to continue and as long and when they can pick up traction. Yes. So it's really good that SNL isn't bowing to the mob and saying, Oh, we're sorry and blah, blah, blah. And to be honest with you, kudos to SNL and there need to be more people and more people in, in the industry that will do that, that will say, you know what, we're just going to ignore you because that's the only way to make these people go. Like the outrage mob of making fun of stand-up comedy Apex in like 2018, 2019 because there was really nothing else to be angry at, right? Like there was no, that would climate change was always relevant, but like Palestine, everyone had forgotten about Palestine at the time. There was no war in Ukraine going on. There was no Black Lives Matter hadn't kicked in, it was pre-COVID. So it was like the angry people need something to be angry at and you have to find something for them to focus their attention on. And so it was like comedians and TV and you, you know, censorship of comedy and can't say that. And then something changed and it was like all that anger got diverted to like Black Lives Matter. I think the problem, the issue here is there's a fundamental misunderstanding amongst amongst the left as to what humor is. I think that we're talking about people who haven't laughed in years, you probably have not actually don't understand what laughter is. I think one of the most pernicious things that has been done by, you know, leftist comedians is to cause this cultural amnesia as to what the gift of laughter really is. I think you watched these, you know, I watched Stephen Colbert his show for the last couple of years. I can't believe, and I'm saying this fairly because I actually think I watch John Stewart. I think he's legitimately laugh out loud funny. I actually laugh out loud a lot when I watch him, you know, on Monday nights. Stephen Colbert is not funny. He's not, he was just not funny at all by any objective standard. Do you think that he was funny when he was lampooning, you know, when he was trying to pull bear rapport? Yeah, making fun of it. Yeah, he used to be funny. Okay. So that's what, but you watch his show. It's actually, it's not because like, it's not because of politics. I actually think it's, you know, because I think a, you know, there's a lot of conservative humor that I think is super cringe. Sure. Um, it's just not fun. So I think that there's been, they've, they've, they've caused this generation to forget or not even know what laughter is. Laughter is an involuntary utterance that you make when something's funny. These people actually think that laughter is clatter. They actually conflate. Yeah. You know, oh, that's when someone, someone says something that I disagree, or that I agree with. And then I go, ha, ha, ha, that's what this generation of leftists actually thinks laughter is. Or it's supposed to bring us together or something like that. Like comedy is meant to uplift us and make us all feel good and comedy is supposed to. And it's like, none of those things are what, nor is comedy supposed to necessarily even offend, but what is innately laughter. And you raise a great point of that they haven't laughed and so long and they've forgotten how to laugh. And that's why it's so funny when Kamala has her perpetual fake laugh because like you, you feel the need to project the fact that you laugh, but you laugh at things that are not funny like, and that's why you have to, and everyone's like, what the hell is she laughing at? Because you're not a joyous, I don't think the left is joy. I think the left is deeply angry. Well, they have a lot of them try to moderate comedy, right? I mean, this is Kathy Griffin, who, can you imagine what comedy would look like with us? And I would look like if she was the, you know, gatekeeper, if she was the taste maker. I mean, it'd be a whole layer. I mean, everybody fall off their chairs at all times. Kathy Griffin, this is from Deadline, Kathy Grimmand, Grimmand Griffin, slams and gilets and other, quote, hacks under Joe Rogan's influence, quote, they all tell the same jokes. Okay, that's okay. That is 70 millimeter projection. They all tell the same jokes. That's what Joe Rogan tells jokes does. He does stand up so he does, but I mean, that's, I, he's saying they all tell the same jokes. That's literally what left his comedians. It's all the same joke. Yeah. Every single one. Well, the Indians comedy is like a lot of it's like weed drug humor, which I never found funny. So, I mean, I respect Rogan, but his comedy is stand up is not my style. We're Shane Gillis. I find quite funny. So I'm kind of putting my cards in the table. There's like, I don't find Rogan very funny and not a head on it. It's just not my style. Where I find Shane Gillis is kind of just for like a better word, bro comedy, quite not just relatable, but really funny. I couldn't disagree more. I think they're a lot different. I think she's probably just better that if I had to, if I had to really fear what's going on here, I think she's better that this broader Rogan sphere, right? What you could say Shane Gillis is a part of seems to be the only sphere and comedy that has been growing while stand up comedy has been dying for the last 20 years. The Rogan sphere has grown. And I think that's really infuriating to a lot of these comics who they get up and they wax poetic to your point about how comedy is actually about uniting people and it's so much, you know, a giveaways that they say comic instead of comedian. That's like, that's like what people say record instead of album. It's like, dude, like we get it. You like view this is something that it's not. It's the thing with comedy where they treat it like as if it's this arts. And it's like, dude, you're getting up and telling poop jokes and drug jokes like, like, let me. One of the things that I saw, I saw a video of these two, I assume they were left as comics and they were singing a song about Shane Gillis and how he's not funny. And one of the things that they mentioned in it was that he was punching down as if because he's a white guy, he can't make jokes about, you know, anyone, basically anyone, right? Like the only thing he can do is, you know, make jokes about other white guys. I mean, look, a good comic can make any situation, you know, can see the humor in situations. And it doesn't matter what the identity of person is, but this goes into the leftist view of power dynamics. Everything is power dynamics and because Shane Gillis is a white guy and he's making jokes about marginalized communities or whatever. And again, there's more women in the U.S. and there are men and women have had the past decade, women have had a much better situation than men have, particularly young men. So the idea that women are somehow marginalized, I think that's totally ridiculous to start with, but they will use the leftist power dynamic to describe what's going on. And they say, well, because your quote unquote, an oppressor, you can't make any jokes about people that are oppressed. And of course, again, women are oppressed by men and it's the standard, you know, leftist framework for seeing all of reality. She said something that I can't believe that people didn't point this, how racist this was. A few years ago, Kathy Griffin said she's talking about Kevin Hart speaking of, you know, punching down. She said, short joke. She called him a coward and she said, she literally said, and I quote, because he's black and he doesn't make jokes about president, or he doesn't attack president Trump. Like she actually, and that was actually a phrase, he's a coward because he's black. Because his humor was apolitical and she was very, she was attacking him because his humor is just humor, not political and she's like, get with the program. The whole point of humor is to trash Trump. So she has a very fascistic, very, very racist, you know, a concept of what humor is and what the whole purpose of humor is. I think her, her only speaking of pulp fiction. I think her, her only, her, the only good work she did was her two lines in pulp fiction. And this is what I hate about, about journalism. This is, can you, can you just scroll up a little bit there on, on the screen or the other way? Sorry. There it is right there. Following backlash to Gillis calling women horrors for wearing shorts at the gym. But that's not what he said, you know, right? So like your article is blatantly lying. He didn't say women are horrors because they wear shorts at the gym. So why, why would you purposely write a, please, you know, why? Because it helps the narrative. So I'm not going to tell the joke or even have, even have embedded there the little clip so you can read it himself, you know, and that's, that's the thing. And this is where you made a great point just now. Which doesn't surprise me because you always make good points. But on the one hand, you've got women who are fighting that we are just as equal as the rest of you. We hear us roar. We don't need no stinkin' men like a fish needs a bicycle. We can do anything you can do. You can't make fun of us at the gym. Yeah. We're just women. You can't expect us not to murder our daughter with a, a, a, a rubber band. We're just women with hormones, right? Like, so women are doing women an amazing disservice, which is good for a, a, a white man to tell people this on, on Tim Kast, but women are doing them to other women an amazing disservice because they are telling you we can't do anything. We, we are, we need so many protections that we can't even be made fun of because we're just women, but we can do whatever we want. Holy crap. Which one is it, girls? There was a great TikTok that I saw and, and this guy was imitating a woman and he was also imitating a man from a hundred years ago. And she was saying, it was about the, the Lindsay Clancy Trowell and the modern woman was saying, you can't expect her to be blah, blah, blah. She was, you know, she was in having postpartum depression. She wasn't this. And then he, he butts in as the, the man from a hundred years ago or whatever. And he's like, exactly. You can't have women in these positions. You can't do this. I agree with you. And she's like, oh, it sounds so sexy. And he's like, what do you mean? I'm agreeing with you. are sleeping. and they can't be expected to go out into the world without a chaperone, and you can't hold women account when she's like, no, stop, you're making it not sexist. I'm saying that she was depressed and blah, blah, blah. And he's like, precisely, yes. Women are a slave to their emotions. You can't treat them as, she's not a murderer. She couldn't be considered a murderer because she's not a functional human being. That was the long and short of it. And at the end, the girl was like, did I just mess up feminism? And I mean, look, there's a lot of women out there that are screaming at these other women, saying, hey, you must be responsible. I was talking last night with our guest, and there's a lot of people that talk about wanting liberties and wanting certain privileges, or certain rights, we'll call them, because that's the way the vernacular they use. But they don't speak at all about the corresponding responsibilities that go with them. And I was poking at libertarians last night, because you hear all this talk about liberty, but very rarely do libertarians, and there are some libertarians that do, of course. But very rarely do you hear libertarians talking about the corresponding responsibility. Every freedom that you have has a certain responsibility. You have the freedom to drive a car, but that doesn't mean that you can just mow people down on the sidewalk. You have the freedom to carry a gun in most places, but that doesn't mean that you can just start launching rounds into the air or at someone else's property. Every single liberty that you have comes with, if not one, probably multiple responsibilities. And today's society wants all of the freedom with none of the responsibility. And you see it on display. It's been a particularly bad month for women, but the Sydney-Sweeney stuff. I want to be able to put myself out, but if another woman finds me unattractive, or it finds me too attractive, she's going to tear me down. I want to be able to have children and be the mother and the caretaker, but if it becomes too much for me, well, you can't blame me for their murder. You know, and these things do not work in a society. You cannot have a society that says you have these liberties, and everyone has to be treated equal. But these people, this particular group, whatever group, and maybe in this case, we're talking about women, but there are all sorts of ways that you can group human beings. But these people have certain privileges that everyone else doesn't have because of their identity. It just doesn't work. And it also proves that the people that are making the claims of I want this kind of responsibility, they seem not to actually want it. Camila Paglia was talking about those amazing things. Brilliant, I knew it was a brilliant-- And Balsy, because she's a Lib. She's a hardcore Lib, but she was brutal. And that woman moderator couldn't believe the stuff she was saying. Christina Haas-Summer says this stuff a lot too. She's like, look, when we were fighting for-- when we were feminists fighting for women's rights and et cetera, we understood that if we were to go out alone, we were accepting the dangers, as well as the right to go out alone. And nowadays, there are a lot of people that say, well, we want to have all of the good things, but none of the risk. We want to have all of the freedoms, but none of the responsibility. And you cannot have a society that has organized that way. There's a paradox here with the feminists wanting women to be treated equally. But then whenever that actually applies to real life, they want women to be treated with kid gloves. One thing that I've noticed, especially noticed in the first Trump term, was every time Trump snapped at Caitlin Collins, her name ceased to be Caitlin Collins. It became female journalist. Whereas there were all these stories about Trump attacking female journalist as if he had never attacked, had nothing but good things to say about Jim Acosta. So every time he says something negative about a woman, then it's woman. It's like suddenly they don't have individual personhood. They're just woman. And he attacks a man. The man is afforded a name and an identity. So that's something that's a double standard that I've always noticed. Well, it's funny. There's this phrase that's used, I guess, for like a better one, Twitter where people will say, "Woke is more correct than the moderate right or the mainstream right." I think this saga over the last month, these various women's issues topics, is indeed an example of where the woke is actually more correct than the mainstream right. Where the mainstream right is like trying to uphold feminism right now. They're like, "Well, equal rights, equal fights." Or like, "No, yours is accountable as we are." And that's actually like a very kind of liberal position to hold, which is that women are held to the exact same standard as men. They're the exact same. It's a level playing field. No Anziffs or Butts. Where the woke to Phil's point are actually making a very classical argument that upholds a very classical understanding of gender dynamics, which is actually no men are more capable than women. And therefore, in certain instances, women shouldn't be expected to sort of behave in the same way as men, or have the same level of accountability. The problem, though, is as we've all made, or the, you know, the problem is the point we've all made, which is, well, the problem is, you know, women aren't like subservient. So, okay, if you're less accountable for your actions, then maybe you should be put under the stewardship of someone that is accountable for said actions. And so what you have right now is this sort of mismatch, this very unbalanced situation in which women are making the argument, not all women, obviously, but a lot of these sort of, you know, pro-Lindsay glance people are making the argument that no women cannot be held accountable for certain instances, certain, you know, decisions they make. But they're not actually attempting to sort of balance that out. It's like, okay, if we acknowledge, and we accept your presupposition, that yes, women aren't capable of being held accountable for certain actions, then what's the solution to that? There's got to be a solution. We got to make a change. And as we see it, at least I'll speak as a, you know, conservative conservative. Yeah, this sort of being under a man tends to remedy that. And I think women, if they truly do feel like they can't be responsible, or as responsible as a man, then that might be a sort of arrangement they might be more happy with. Yeah. But, you know, it's very, very, you know, unliberal, very. They would never, ever admit that. No, that's the problem. But that would be sort of the remedy for this. I think what's happened here is women have sort of walled straight into the level playing field that, you know, a lot of feminist petition for, and they're deeply unhappy. And I think this is reflected in SSRI usage, just general indications of misery, et cetera. They're the most over medicated, over therapy, highest level of suicide, highest level of alcoholism. No, men have a higher level. No, no, no, no women in terms of women's history. Women right now are more medicated, more miserable, more depressed than ever before. Correct. And you would think that would be a national conversation. Like, why are you also unhappy? You are deeply, women as a whole in America right now are deeply unhappy. But if you ask that question, it's like, well, you're just, you know, can't know it because of men, like, oh, it's not. And it's like many things were. Like, when we think of sort of, basically, pre-50s sexual dynamics between men and women, people immediately jump to the worst-case scenario, which is a husband being cruel to his wife or a father being cruel to his daughter. And, you know, I don't have numbers in front of me. I'm sure that obviously happened, that obviously existed, that obviously was in some places, some instances, maybe even common. So that's not what we're, I say we're, I mean, obviously there's room for debate here. That's not what I'm advocating for, obviously. That's what people think of. There's instances in modern life where people behave this way. They don't even have a, you know, I think you were on last time we were debating the tradwife, right? And it's like, well, if you're having to go out of your way to sort of market yourself as a tradwife, there's probably something else going on. There's millions of women all across America who are already tradwives. It just doesn't occur to them to call themselves that. And they're quite happy. They're just in a very natural sort of arrangement with a man, which is like the man is comfortable deciding on where to go for dinner. That is something that's deeply troubling to women. There's nothing wrong with that. It's actually quite a beautiful thing. Additionally, there's millions of daughters all across this country who are in a healthy relationship with their father, and they're quite happy because of that. So, you know, when I, when I'm making this point, you know, people find that shocking. So when I say, well, maybe women, you know, should acknowledge that they are not as responsible and should put themselves under the stewardship of a man. They find that so scandalous. They think I'm advocating for some sort of caveman dragging his wife by the hair or something. I'm like, no, we have millions of instances of this occurring in the United States right now. As we speak, I think we could all probably personally list off. Maybe you're even in that. Maybe you're even married to a woman and you're in that arrangement. And it's as if people are quite happy in that arrangement. But at least works, at least facilitates, you know, a functioning relationship and that extends out into functioning society. And what we're at right now is you just have a lot of women spinning gears. And I genuinely feel horrible for them because, you know, those are the mothers of the next generation. And those are the wives of the current generation. And we have a young man problem too. Maybe I should be focused more on them as one. And today's his birthday, so we have to give a shout out to Charlie Kirk. But that's why so many young men liked him because of his message to young men. And clearly, like if we look at the Cornell 7 disaster, right? No matter what the whole thing is just shameful and sad and awful. Clearly, the girl has issues and we can debate that another show. But the guys have issues too and you have to have a real problem if you're like, "I would never raise my daughter to want to do three ways with. I would never want to raise a son who's like, "You guys want to jump in on this?" Those guys are just as debauched, as lost, and their parents should be just held as failures of parents because to get your boy to that stage, to think like, "I can't do this to this girl. Yeah, I'm rare and to go and I'm a sexual perv and I'm 19. But at a certain point, I'd like to think my boy would be like, "Yeah, I can't do this. I can't do this to this girl." Like, this is just wrong. Hopefully you would break up the whole damn thing. We have a young male problem and why I mentioned Charlie is because he was reaching out to them in a way that no other young guy could and that's why they had to kill him. Yeah, that's true. I completely agree. I guess what I'm trying to get at is it's frustrating because basically every conservative will be the first to admit that. They'll be the first to say, "These young men aren't stepping up," etc. I'm not saying this what you're saying, but a lot of men, you know, conservatives will be the first ones to get up and say, "Young men are not stepping up," and there's all these women that are just waiting to be married and these men just aren't stepping up and marrying. I'm like, it's a little annoying that, and again, I'm not saying you're saying this or anyone's saying this, but there's people very prominent out there that will lay in to young guys all day long. You know, it's just you need to step up and they have nothing to say about young women where I'd say we kind of have a problem with both. I'm not debating that they're, yes, indeed, there's something clearly wrong with the young men in this country, but I think there's something equally as, if maybe I'm more wrong with women, with young women in this country. I don't think there's any denying that just to break it down pragmatically because we're on a political show. And young women are voting for the Democratic Party by astronomical, you know, dictatorial numbers. And again, to put it into terms to make politicos understand, I think that's an indication of some things might even be more wrong with young women. It's easy for us because we're men. So young men are going to relate to us more for us to say, yes, young men, you need to improve your life or whatever. And here's some actionable steps on how to do so, you know, we're men. You guys certainly, you have a few years on me. But I think conservatives need to like start acknowledging that there's something seriously wrong with young women because what ends up happening is a lot of young men just here. Why are you picking on me all the time when I'm like in this horrific dating market? And I think this is why Sarah Huckabee Sanders kicked over a wasp and asked and didn't realize because in her world, everyone's always railing on young men all day long and she's never actually interact with the young men who are like, uh, have you been on like, henjury recently? I mean, these women are crazy. I was looking up. So the percentage of young, especially the college educated one, um, who vote left, um, and among black women, it's 89%, a Hispanic women, it's 79%, and white women, it's considered 64%. And so college educated single women who vote Democrat, and that's a huge problem because that's not even, it's not even 50/50. And you would think we're a 50/50 country. We're actually more conservative than we are liberal, I didn't only believe that. I agree. I agree. But the fact that such over one percentage of voting left shows that as a, as a group, as a demographic women are, and again, when I mentioned with the medicine, the, the, the, the drugs, the overdoses, the alcoholism, the therapy, young women are a disaster right now. And, and when you try to say like, you all need to figure yourselves out, um, it's not a young, just young men have needs as well. Mostly they have a need for God, um, but young women have a lot of problems as a woman has a group have a problem, um, and, and no one is addressing that because that would be sexist, right? That would be sexist. Yeah. And we could be just strong and powerful. Who do you tell us? We're no good. And we could concede. I, I, I can concede that this initial, you know, when the women started, you know, they ended up in this current iteration where there's clearly something wrong. I can concede that it was men that let their guards down when that initially happened. Where men should have been leading, should have been, you know, this sat in the other, and then they didn't, and they failed their duty. But that's not currently the case, like this idea that a lot of conservatives propose, which is men just need to step up and start leading. Like these women just, they want to be led and these men won't lead them. It's like, that is not the situation on the ground whatsoever, I mean, and I, and I, again, I'm a Christian. I don't even believe in divorce as a concept. I'll put my cards on the table, but I can acknowledge because you can talk to any divorce man that a lot of them have been put through this situation where like they can't lead. Like legally, they weren't allowed to lead. Like the woman could just leave and take the kids and that sort of thing and there have no recourse. So we've now reached this point where it doesn't matter if men are willing to lead or not. I don't know if we can get any data on that, but it's in material because women now just have so much institutional power that you can't like reverse that. It's going to have to ultimately be like a sort of discussion amongst women amongst each other. What we're going to do next. There's nothing men can really do anymore. You just have to be lucky. Like I'm fortunate that I found a woman who I can marry, who like gets it and she wants to be a great wife and she wants me to be a great husband. Now there's standards for me as well, but I could acknowledge that I'm especially lucky. I mean, as a 25 year old, that's exceedingly rare. And I just got again, once again, very lucky right place, right time. That is just not the reality for a lot of guys who do want to lead. They do want to be husband. They do want to be a father and they just can't find women that feel the same way. And again, this isn't me making it up. I could pull it up. They do a study of 12th graders every year, not studying the 12th graders, but asking them questions. And they say, okay, well, how many of you want to be a mother or father? I want to be a parent one day. And for the first time since they've been taking the poll, which has been like the 1920s, or probably the first time in history, more young men say they want to be fathers and husbands than young women. And so I'm just sitting here and I'm like, okay, like we could sit here and say, well, young men need to step up and I would agree with every single thing that would be said. But it should be buttressed with this idea that young men or young women might even be in a worse situation. And that's causing even more misery for young men who buy data, buy stats are more likely to want a family than women. And that means something's wrong. I mean, because the historical trope right was like, young women are desperate for a ring. You know, they just want a ring and these men won't commit. I'm like, it's the opposite. MRS degree, right, isn't that was not the joke in college, like they just want an MRS. It's the opposite. Now, now it's like these men. And I know, and I can talk to them. I know them. Again, these are all guys that I know that some of them are still in college. They're the ones that are desperate, they get married. They're the ones desperate to find a wife or whatever. And the women, you know, they'd rather pursue their career, which again, you could debate with their prerogative or whatever. That's not the point. I'm just trying to illustrate. There's a problem here. With who played C.J. Craig on West Wing, actress, big tall woman, Alison Janney, great actress, right, brilliant. And she gave an interview. Not long ago, it was very honest and she talked about not having children. And she said she didn't realize that like her biological clock had stopped ticking. She was like, I was so focused on my career, I never met anyone. You know, no man was probably right. And then all of a sudden, now you're just too old. And she said, like, I never really thought that I was running out of time. And you think, if you're a woman and you don't know that about yourself, which is tragic, right? Like she said, she was sad. She missed the opportunity, right? There's no having children now. Again, how many women as a generation, as a demographic are growing up, will look at AOC, freezing her eggs? You know, because I'm running out of time, you know, she was dating some guy for 15 years, never locked it up, never, you know, like that's not him not stepping up to a certain extent. That's her saying, don't come after me, but now I'm just going to do this process instead. Well, and here's the black pill, though, with this sort of archetype that's emerged in the 2010s into the 2020s of the girl boss who waited too long for her eggs, they're still getting married. Like they'll be in their 30s or 40s. If they're like top shelf, they will still get married. They will still like find a husband. They're ending up with these situations where guys, they reach a certain age. And you know, there's this like online people are like, well, I'll just marry younger. That's still pretty uncommon. You still typically marry someone around your own age. Sorry. I went to running get a water. So I'm slightly out of breath. I'm really out of shape. You don't, you marry younger if you have a lot of a lot of money. Right. Exactly. The only delta is if you have boatloads of money, you can marry a 23. But here's the black pill. Easy. And this is what a lot of guys don't want to accept, because a lot of guys want there to be this cosmic justice for these women that have waited, you know, they were girl bosses. Now they're going to learn once they can't have kids. What we're seeing is a lot of these women actually do find a husband. Once they do realize like, oh, it's time sticking, they have no problem finding a husband. It's the guys like they can't lock them down until they're 30s and 40s. So again, I'm not sure if I'm articulating this very well. But a lot of people like or have this idea on their head that well, she is going to learn, you know, once it, once it comes down to brass text, she's going to learn. And it's like there are examples of women that have certainly struggled. But again, I think the majority of women are able to just find a husband at a certain point. The man's like, well, I got to get married too. So I'm just going to get married to whoever. And she had her fun for 15 years. I'd be interested to see some kind of hard dad on that, because I do think the anecdote of women, you know, want realizing I've got a, you know, there's a time limit here. I do think that that's very real. But do you think they're having problems finding husbands? Because it seems like most men are simped now. I think you're, I think I don't know. I don't know. I would never, but do when you're 35, 40 and like your backs against the wall, what we're seeing is most of these guys just accept it. They're like, either I die alone, so. - I don't know. I can, it'd be hard to study this data, but this is like totally what I'm seeing as most of these guys. A lot of people to kind of talk a big game, but once it comes down to brass tacks, they're like, well, I'm not gonna die alone. - Maybe. I mean, like I said, the women do have, like, women are definitely aware of the, you know, as they get close to 30, 35, they're aware of it. And, you know, that's when they start, you know, shifting around. I don't know if women are like, well, I just gotta find a guy. I think that women are still fairly picky, and the women that are the most picky are the ones that generally end up alone, because when you're 30, 35, you know, you're not getting some kind of, you know, all the good guys that are gonna treat a woman good, most of them have been snapped up, and they have families. And if they found, you know, even a decent woman, then they probably don't get divorced, right? Just a woman's not gonna run out on them or whatever. So those people are probably happy couples. And so, you know, the number of people in the pool goes down. But look, I mean, I don't know that it's a situation where most women are scrambling, but there's a lot of, there's enough of them where you hear a lot of longtime feminists talk, speaking on podcasts or speaking and saying, "Look, you don't have time." And it's true, you don't have forever. - Feminist are saying that? - What? Older feminists say, "Look, I was lied to as a young person. You don't have forever. You shouldn't put off having a family until you're mid-30s, late-30s, or what have you." Which a lot of women do. They think, "Oh, I'll just freeze my eggs." The AOC being the great example. That doesn't always work. It is much, much harder. It also costs a significant amount of money. Excuse me. I don't know that I agree with Tate about, they just find a guy. I do think that it does get harder as you get older for women. - How much does social media play into this, projecting an illusion of an abundance that doesn't actually exist in real life? I think they're wrong. - When they're getting flooded with DMs, you know. - Yeah, that's a huge problem. 'Cause I do think women have never had more choice than now, where again, you look at, you can still see case studies in the third world. That's part of the reason the birth rate's so high is 'cause the women aren't aware of the options that they have. When you live in a world where you're social media and any man and theory, like you're competing, like if you're a man and you live in, you know, the Washington DC Metro, you're not competing with other men in the Washington DC Metro. You're competing with the entire first world. Anybody that can fly into Dolas is your competition. And so, at least if you're at like the top shelf, so to speak. And so, yeah, I think so, but I think social media, I think this is damages women where they do presume that something better is gonna come along. So even if they're flush with options, they're still going to hold out for like this sort of top shelf. I think the only place I'm seeing insulation from any of this, I've described basically like a soft description of hypergamy and I've also described this black pill, which is like women will have no problems finding a husband. They can pretty much, if they are realistic enough, they can find a husband at any age, that is not the same case for men. The one place I'm seeing insulation from this, I would call a crisis, is among religious people, specifically Christians. I've seen it in the evangelical community and I've seen it in the Catholic community where they still, and Mormons by extension, they still by and large, have some fairly normal courtship and dating habits. It's leaked in a bit, especially in the evangelical. Even jealous is over corrected. I'm seeing a lot of men get whipped and evangelical marriages and then the woman who's a Bible verse to keep them in line, which the evangelical long house is not discussed enough. But yeah, it seems like Christians specifically seem to be pretty insulated from this. But yeah, like immune from? Not quite immune because it's still there, but it's not like full blown hypergamy, what you're seeing in the secular world where you could be going out with a Hill staffer. And the next thing you know, junior congressman comes in and takes her out in the date or some sort of, you know, billionaire meets her and takes her out. I'm seeing that happen. Like I've spoken to guys who have said they were, went on a date with the girl and they found out she got flown out by like an NBA player a week ago. And I'm like, the ultimate way to insulate yourself from that is just getting a religious community that is frowned upon. And that will like damage your reputation within said community in the secular world. It's kind of like no holds barred and the guys are able to do basically whatever they want. I'm too old and also too married for the Tinder. So I've never been on it, but I remember reading an article somewhere that, which is probably an awful way to start a relationship, right? Well, that's popular. But if you just go on looks and you left right, left right, I read somewhere that men are more likely to, like swipe right is the good one, right? Like they, they're more open to choices because they're desired. They go until they hit the limit. I read that women's choices are like one tenth of what men's choices are. And then even when they match, it is like only a 5% chance they'll actually respond to the person. So like I matched with this girl, this girl matched with me, but she's still unlikely to respond to me because she still has this notion that there's someone's better speaking. That's the problem. That's the illusion of abundance. So that's what I thought of when you said social media, the illusion of abundance, that's such a great line. Well, a great example of abundance. Yeah, well, in a great example of this Tinder, yes, but hinge is where you see an action because on hinge you have the likes. So it's not swiping. It's like and then you can leave a message if you'd like. So the men are using the main tab and they're just swiping and say a woman they like, send a message or whatever. The women aren't swiping on the main tab. They're swiping on the likes you tab. And this is something I found out from speaking to women and their experiences on hinge, is they're not even using the main battle royale like tab where you're just going through every woman or every, you know, if you're a guy, you're going through every woman in the 30 mile radius. They have endless options in the tab of guys that have already liked them. So they're guaranteed to at least have a conversation with anyone they like, which is just wild. And again, that's just not the way it's supposed to work. Some people are like so deep in the black pole. They're like, no, that's what real life is. And I'm like, I don't think so because you'll see a lot of guys, you know, historically speaking, it's kind of the George Costanza effect where they're so funny or they just have such a great personality that they're able to punch above their weight, so to speak. I think that's kind of gone away. You don't see as many like shocking, you know, mismatches looks wise anymore unless its money is involved. But, you know, as I understand it, again, I wasn't around for this, but it wouldn't be terribly uncommon to see, you know, normal looking dude with a very attractive woman. And then there would be external factors that weren't money. Like, he was just really funny or they knew each other growing up or something like that. And I don't see that anymore, especially with young guys. It seems to be very looksmatched. And how much of that is a product of dating being so dating app dependent? Yeah, it's because the women are approaching women in real life. Well, I think a lot of the reason men are approaching women is they're afraid of being called creepy or being chastised. Additionally, to your point, why dating apps have eviscerated the kind of candid. It's eviscerated that kind of candid. We just happen to meet, and he swept me off my feet. It doesn't work anymore because you're going off of looks fundamentally. Maybe a secondary effect would be university or what your job is, or what neighborhood you live in maybe, but generally you're going off of looks. So now most couples are looksmatched. When, yeah, I don't know, 20, 30 years ago, you'd see a million George Costanza arrangements. Just because, you know, they stood behind each other at the coffee shop and you swept her off her feet or whatever. One of the men are losing the opportunity to audition. Yeah, one of the other things that you notice, you're talking about the way that women, you know, swipe and stuff. And I have an anecdote about a guy, about guys, the way they swipe that that tape brought up. And it's exactly true, guys. We had a this this guitar tech who didn't take very great care of himself. And he, but he would just get on his tender and just every single one he would just sit there and be, he'd be talking about something else. Just swiping right, just like throwing the net as wide as possible. And he didn't have much luck. But the point being that like men will give women of, you know, average look and above, they'll be like, yeah, you know, women will not, like they did a poll. And the male bell curve about how attracted women were, where it looked like what you'd expect. You know, it's like, she's a five, she's kind of a five. They kind of got it right, right? Women would look at dudes and it was only that, like, the eights, nines and tens that even got average. One of the funny things about that, though, is that's only when they're basing on looks. Once they actually get to know the guys, then the way the guys look turns into the normal bell curve. So when women are selecting just based on attractiveness, they're going after only the most attractive guys. But once a woman gets to know a guy, then they're like, well, you know, the way that his lip moves is cute. And I liked it or I, you know, did you see his hands? Or, you know, he's got this funny quirk. And all these things that, you know, you might not notice or might, you would definitely wouldn't know by just looking at a profile. Those things become endearing because the person comes out. It's no longer just a picture. So these, these apps and stuff are not suitable, are not suitable. They're suited to women at all. They're suited to men. And that's why women can get on there, and a lot of times they have paid the apps or like guys have to pay, but women don't. Women just, they're terribly suited for women, and the things that women are looking for. There's tons of women out there that are perfectly beautiful. They'll go ahead and they'll have great success on the apps when it comes to matches, and a lot of times they'll go out on dates with guys, but the guys that they're going out with because they're women are so selective, are guys that are basically being treated like hot girls. Their inbox is flooded. - Yeah, absolutely right. - And so they have the pick of whoever they want, and what the guys do when they have that kind of selection, they're gonna go and try everything on the menu. They'll go out with this girl, they'll go out with that girl, and basically they're looking to hook up, and that's part of where hook up culture kind of comes from. When you give men the access to sex, the way that women would have it, they behave like men. And they just say, "Well, why am I gonna settle down with you, "or why I'm gonna make you my girlfriend?" When there's 10 other girls that are just as hot as you and my inbox. - Well, this is the idea, right? - Yeah, exactly. - Exactly. - And that program is kind of the definition of what you're talking about. Additionally, part of the reason why the dating apps are tailored to men is because the apps were designed for hookups fundamentally. The proof for this is the idea of the swipe, it was gay apps that initially were first to the game on this sort of carousel style, which as we know, behaviors around sexuality among homosexuals on the whole is slightly different than heterosexuals historically speaking. - Slightly as such a polite word. - Right. - The only reason that it's so the apps came out and then they adopted to the straight world and it's changed. - But the only reason that it was different is because women were the gatekeepers of sex, right? Like historically, men are the gatekeepers for marriage, women are the gatekeepers for sex. The thing that women were holding onto and getting the guys to marry them for was regular sex, essentially, right? That was the deal, whether it sounds kind of vulgar and stuff, but men didn't have regular sex, they didn't have access to women the way they do today. You had to marry a woman, you had to make her your wife, so that way you'd get access to having a family, having sex and stuff like that. When you have the sexual revolution and there's no more barrier like that, then men don't have the same incentives to settle down. And to Tate's point, men behave like men. So when you have gay men, so two people that both have the same approach to sex, of course they're gonna have a lot more sex because it's far more available because there is no gatekeeper to sex. Women having the decision as to whether sexual encourse intercourse happens or not is how we have structured society or had structured society up until probably the '60s. And the fact that it's not looked at as something to be pursued anymore, something that you have to actually give something in return for by men, there's no incentive for men to settle down anymore. Particularly the guys that are extremely wealthy, extremely attractive, extremely outgoing, can talk to anybody, those dudes, they're crushing home runs every day. They're just a wash in beautiful women. The normal guys, people that don't have the six pack, the six figure and six foot tall, well they're the ones that are the ones that are like, well, this dating market, it doesn't basically doesn't exist. They're the guys that are like giving up. And it really, you can be a dude that six foot, have a six pack, make six figures. But if you can't talk to women, you're still gonna feel like there's no dating market, right? Because even if you get a bunch of women in your inbox that are saying yes, hello and stuff, if you can't initiate a conversation and keep it interesting, they're gonna be like, he gave me the ik. And it gives a real thing. They're gonna be like, ah, there was something I didn't like about them. So it's a really difficult thing for young men, in particular, it's terrible for young women because they feel used, they don't feel fulfilled, they're not getting what they need out of the dating apps. I mean, I'm not the guy that says that they should be illegal, but I strongly recommend not to use dating apps, right? There are other social media apps that you can use that are not the dating apps, right? Like using whether it be Facebook or Instagram or whatever, right? Or just meet people. Yeah, talk to girls and look, I understand that, but you sound like a boomer. Because nobody goes out and does anything anymore, right? Like, and if you go-- That's an advantage, that's all the more reason to do it. No, because you have to go to their home. They're not going out. Like, let me don't go out, like they're not out in the back. People, there's no people, they don't go out and do stuff anymore. That's my point. There was an interesting article today that alcohol sales are their lowest time in history. And someone said, I'm angry. Right, some of the main reason why is because people don't go out, they don't really go to bars. You don't have people over. No one on your age has a place that they only make it-- You don't have people showing more? Pot's never been more used, and why? Because that's a lie. You use in public, people use it at home. And if you go or use it at home, it's a solo. Like, I mean, some of us do drink by ourselves, but only because we really enjoy the taste. That's roundup on now. But it still has a little bit roundup on. But if you're just a dude who's like, I'm just going to say, home and smoke weed by myself. No one's like, oh my god, you're weirdo. But you're like, oh, I'm going to go home and make a martini and watch Godfather. It's like, oh, stranger. Like, we're a freak show. Yeah. So, but yeah, I'll go for your right to drink yourself at home. Alcohol numbers are super, super low. But if that's real, alcohol is a social thing. And I would ordinarily-- And I would ordinarily-- As conserved as we should be like-- like, every time these stats come out, alcohol is just low. Like, sex, cell-side-a-marriage is low. Teenage pregnancy, you know, smoking is down. You know, in theory, conservatives should be excited. It's like, oh, that must be more winning. It's like, no, that is not proof-ishness. That is, like, people being scared. History has shown that alcohol and people getting together produces families, produces social interactions. Like, that's a good thing for society. So, I mean, the dating apps are terrible, to, I guess the soundline point. The dating apps are terrible for everyone's self-esteem, except for a very, very few men, very small group of men. And if you're not in one in that group, and you know you're not, if you're not in there, I don't care how much you tell yourself. You know you're not in there. It's bad for you. So just get off them, find other ways to try to start conversation. Go to church. - Church is a good option. - Go to church. The problem is, like, a lot of the churches don't have young people anymore. Like, I was always told, go to church. And most of the churches I went to until I moved closer to DC and could attend church in DC. It was all, like, old heads. So it's like, unless you live in like a major city, you're screwed finding young people. That's why a lot of people have resorts to the dating apps. Like, I don't know if I can in good conscience just say, don't use them, 'cause I'm like, for some, I do know people that have met-- - Not the dating apps. Use social media. You can talk to people. - This media's a good option. - Social media is fine. I mean, it's got its own dangers, but you can actually talk to people. I mean, look, there's a bunch of people that consider exidating app, right? Like, because you just talk to people there. It's-- - I know people that have met their SOs through-- - Really? - Oh yeah. - Through Twitter, through X? - Yeah, somebody know I'll tell you after. - Oh, that's fascinating. - Yeah, that's a good story. - Well, I'm married, so don't try to slide into my direct, whatever on Twitter, who knows I'm off the market. If anyone's texting me right now, Aaron always texts me when he sees me on the show, so I'm gonna text him back right now. But the point is, get off the dating apps. They're terrible for you. They're awful for you. They're horrible for yourself, Steve. - Chris, you're making a point, and I think it's a good point, is you still do see people socialize, but it seems like, from my perspective, it happens the most in large cities, and it happens most with people that are already probably outperforming in a lot of ways anyway. - See, I live in LA, so maybe I'm projecting that. - 'Cause New York, I see people with the nightlife in New York's great. It's not like it was pre-COVID, definitely been a difference. - I have noticed a big difference. - I think it's not just COVID, it's also Zoomers compared to millennials, where I think millennials still like to socialize. - Right, right, right. - Or Zoomers, especially younger Zoomers, prefer to like a hop. If they have friends hop on FIFA and play online, and there's no drink or anything. Like me and my friends, granted we all live in different places now. We hang out, but it's over playing FIFA together, or some other game together and it happens once a week, so we're still like talking, but back, you know, 20, 30 years ago, we probably would have met up at the bar after work. Again, we live in different places, but even if we were in the same place, it would probably still look like that. - I think people are longing for their bar. They're longing for, if you're a certain generation, cheers, if you're in another generation, friends, it was a coffee shop, but a gathering place where you met and you didn't stare at your phone and you just, you socialized with it. And you met strangers at the bar. You know, all of us have memories of meeting someone at the bar, and you strike up funny conversations with people you've never met. It's one of the reasons why people love going to Scotland and Ireland and rural England, is you go to the pub and you meet the locals, and they're delightful. - You know, when I was at Project Veritas, one of my, we were investigating Google, and I'd done a story on Google, but you know, and we did a lot of muck raking in Silicon Valley, but it got to the point where we were getting recognized so much because we had broken so many stories. And so they flew me out to Silicon Docs, you know where that is? - No. - Dublin, Ireland. - Oh. - And spent the entire time pub crawling, the entire time from 6 p.m. to 4 a.m., going to pubs and meeting people and get heading content, secretly recording that. But at the time, this was 2019, so maybe it's changed since COVID, but double in how to nightlife. And the nerds too, that it was the nerds that we were, 'cause we went to the pubs on Silicon Docs, which is Ireland's version of Silicon, but we're all the Facebook and Google and people were going. And there was a really bump in nightlife there. So I don't know if it's still the same, but, well, it's funny, and I can speak to Britain. I've been to Dublin, but I didn't really go out, but I can speak to Britain. You've seen a drop off in nightlife since COVID, not necessarily because of changing behaviors, 'cause of the restrictions, but because there's so many more migrants now, that a lot of women are uncomfortable drinking, because you'll see this in London, especially London, and like Manchester, you'll see this, is there'll be a mob of like, Pakistani and African dudes waiting outside of the bars, like 3am, just hoping there's like drunk women coming out. And I'm not making, you can watch videos online of this happening. - It is very common. And it's like, you see that you're like, that's an online thing. And no, it's like, speak to any woman, they've changed their behaviors. And you might be saying, well, you shouldn't be getting drunk at 3am anyway. It's like, yeah, but it's still less, like those women should have, it should be allowed to do that without getting abused by a Pakistani migrant. So I think a lot of, it's probably the same in Ireland, because they have a lot of the same problems, is yeah, there's just this mob of third world men that have arrived since Boris Johnson, the Boris wave, who just camp outside of these clubs and bars and all over Britain. And the women have changed their behaviors. They move in packs or they find men that can accommodate them. It's wild. It is really wild stuff. That being said, unless anyone has anything else to add to the topic, we should probably move on to Super Chatts. - Oh boy, that was deep considering that was not even remotely what we were planning to talk about. But this is why this is such a great platform because conversations come organic. They're always good. - It's true. - Carter has hunted down some Super Chatts for us. - Yeah, we've got quite a few Super Chatts here. You need to start with YouTube. - By the way, I got a text from my friend, who says that you just want all the men to stop using dating apps so that you can get access to all the women. - I am extremely spoken for. - No, that way you're not the case. - That is a smart gambit. - Yeah, good, good, everyone. - No, all for me. - Not even close. - Not a bad play there. We're reading this one at your hover and over. - Yeah, I mean, might as well start at the top here. - From the top, then let's do it. Oh yeah, there's, okay. - Oh, yeah, we got a few. - From, you know what, let me make this bigger. - Yeah, is there a, see Tim, he just. - Scott those. - Oh, there we go. - From Ronnie, 2026, hey Tim. - What was he talking about? - Sorry, I hope you're feeling a little better. Well, he's feeling a little better, he was there. He did 40 minutes. I was way more than I thought it was going to do. - Yeah, I think I just split after the intro. - Yeah. - Wyatt, Calden, let's see, can we zoom in one more time? - Maybe. - Let me actually, let me try. - Or is it cooked? - It's cooked. - Wyatt, Calden, his profile picture is like a red tee. Go find him. He's a total patriot because he's coming here. I just, we can't read the full name on what happened. The Paris leftist outlander rioters, burnt down the Marseille des Enfant Rouge, which was set up by the king in the 1600s to raise money for orphans. What kind of people would burn a place like this? Africans and leftists. No, there's a zoo people. I think would be the primary suspects leftists 'cause it's in their ideology and Africans, 'cause it's Africa. Sergeant Stoic says, "Because the comparison will be made Obama birth certificate, how many presidents had blood parents from outside the country?" A few, Trump. - Trump's mother is born. - Someone night saw a tweet go by, it's like six. - Obama's dad was-- - Obama's dad. - And hey, we're both born in Kenya. - Andrew Jackson's parents. Andrew Jackson's parents who are not American. - From Northern Ireland. - Let's see, other parents, I mean, there's gotta be, I'm sure someone has a mother of this. - So what did a lot of this? - Who was born, yeah. - Someone did a list of grandparents was a lot. Like Reagan, for example. And then some people did parents. And I think it was like five or six. - Yeah. - Wait, Reagan's parents were? - One of his grandparents was from Ireland. - Yeah, yeah. - Anyway, yeah, well, we can look it up at some point, doing a second. Actually, I'm so curious. - Yeah, presidents with parents born outside. - Foreign country, I'm just going back in my mind. Okay, well, this guy's like, "Oh, the first seven were not born in the United States." - Where were you? - You were just there. - Where were you? So that's just one of those things that's so stupid that it's just, you just get frustrated. - Here we go. - George Washington wasn't born in America. - Yeah, when I shot up, the road punched you. You won't say that again, you dumb. - You don't even remember your born, actually. - Andrew Jackson, that was Northern Ireland. Thomas Jefferson's mom, that's right. She was from London. James, if you can, his father was born in Ireland. - Woodrow Wilson's parents were born in hell. - Yeah, Carlisle. - Oh, yes. - Chester Arthur, William Arthur. Man, so a lot of our presidents have, like Ulster or Anglo Irish heritage is fascinating. - Surprise. - Herbert Hoover's mom was born in Canada. - Oh. - Obama's dad isn't American. What? I thought he's Irish. Barry Obama, that's an Irish name. - We're in something new about a goofy. - A cute Herbert Hoover. - I would have never guessed Barack Obama's dad wasn't some sort of like, you know, heritage American Mayflower. That's fascinating. And Trump's mom, he is from Scotland. And his grandparents on his father's side are German. He's like a reverse engineered old stock American. - Well, in a clean Ellis Islander. - What part of Germany? Is he from Swarley, Germany or unswarley Germany? - He's from Ortoni. - Or Tony. - Yeah. - Or Tony, Germany or Ortoni, Germany. - Yes, or Trump is not a heritage American. I hate that term here. I gotta come out. Like, a lot of people I know use it. A lot of people are like, I hate the term heritage American. I'm a loss, okay. Like, that's what I am. People started saying heritage American 'cause so many wasps became Catholic. I hate that term actually. Heritage was so cringe. It's like, no, I'm a loss. And then there's other people that have been here for a while too, like if you're black, you're heritage American because you've been here. Anyway, I digress. I had to get that off my chest. I hate, I hate. I'm tired of saying heritage American. It's so cringe. Sam Urai Kayuchen says, my family health care premium increased by 2400 for the same coverage in 2027. All of my effort to save gone, maybe Luigi had a point on this issue only, I will say people, yes, are very frustrated with healthcare in the United States. There's no question, there's a lot of racketeering going on. But if you watch our show Monday with our Canadian guests, I think you'll find that the public option also has quite a few problems with it as well for considering Andre T23 says, she looks like a skit out of family guy. I think talking about the drunk lady. Yeah, she did. Yeah, it's true. Shadav, the Medvek, Ved Mech says, Kirkland Vodka is Grey Goose. Good to know. Oh, that's good to know. Project Tiva says, remember that YouTube channel drunk history, I do. Oh, yeah. It's how I imagine hanging out with Tate. That is probably probably pretty true. I'm 100% on board with getting candidates drunk on camera to see what's up. I'm seeing someone, someone gets this. I think that would be hysteria. Project Tiva is a ball-nower. We knew this already, but it's just good to have that confirmed. You should make them, like at the end of the episode of the debate, you should have them answer the original questions, but after like a number of thoughts. Yeah, like just to wrap up the very first question we asked you was this should feel like, now to see if their honest answer really comes out. Follow me. Oh, it should just follow all my second hair. Star Trek Geek 47 says, oh, here we go. We just yesterday welcomed our baby girl into the world. Hey, we go. That's another feature. I added to the 2044 vote tally from the Hawkeye state. Love your work. Our family of three now has four hollows. Oh, yeah, let's go 24. She'll be able to vote the first time in 2044. Wow, wow, yes, that's a ways out. And Iowa, who knows what Iowa is going to be like in 2044? I mean, what's the newest Vance kid that was just born? The J.D. and the Sun will be running for president at that time. Yeah. Well, against Chelsea Clinton. Yeah, Chelsea Clinton the third. Yeah. Well, welcome to the world, little Patriot. You got a lot of work to do, but I was a great stating. Got some good parents there. Jupiter, two of three says sticking with the Tim Cass tradition. We are in the hospital about to give birth to our fifth child. I'm assuming this is for Phil. Let me get a scream for baby Levi. Yeah, I guess so. Thanks for all you do, Tim, keep having babies. I'll relay that to Tim. I'll text him at like one of the morning, like Tim. Like, hey man, congratulations on number five. Congratulations. Welcome to the world. Yeah. A Jupiter Patriot there. Clank, Clank. I'm a, and then it doesn't say maybe blank, Clank, Clank, Clank, I'm blank. That would work. Maybe the unsubscribed podcast guys are way funnier than SNL and habitual line crosser aircraft. Skits are the best. They are super funny guys. I like the almost Friday. I think they do better skits than anything that's ever come out in SNL. They're so funny. Oh, they're so good. I've always seen their skits and it was them. Cornpop says YouTube, you're going to learn to love me with two eyeballs, and he's got the Cleveland Indian. This is profile picture. Oh, the ball. No, broadcast in mediocrity says Elon Omar graduated high school in 2001. Her birthday is in October and she was naturalized in December. The Google AI. I can't find a record of her skipping a grade. So yeah, so that would mean that she's older, right? - If I understand correctly, her father may not have been a citizen either, because when someone passes away, their naturalization paperwork becomes FOIA, or accessible about FOIA, and they said that they don't have any paperwork. - Go figure. - Go figure. - Yeah, well she's similar, I could have told you that. Something's gotta be off. Eric Shaver, 937, says, "As if dating apps are actually designed to help cuckles." Well, there's a lot of cuckles on there too, let's say the least, help couples hook up and not sell ads. If we were all out dating each other, who would consume content? No, that's absolutely true. If you're running one of these apps and you're making hand over fist, why would you want to lose customers by setting them up with someone compatible, right? I think people have observed this specifically with hinge, because they always fail to offer up what would actually be your most likely match instead, they just stuff it with gray loot, you know, like sift through all the, oh my gosh. When I think Glenn's spoken for it, but I tried hinge one time a few years ago, and it had the filter was automatically set to be up to like 40. And I was in like, I remember this man. I was in closer to over here, so I was getting like all the women between like 30 and 40, dude, look like Genghis Khan ran through Northern Virginia. Like everyone, it was crazy. Like there were like 500 pounds. Everyone's single mother. Everyone had the worst tattoos you've ever seen. I was like, what happened here? What happened? Like it's like we like glossed a war. And then, and then like the food rations, like it got out of, I don't know what, anyway, I'm glad I'm not on there. And also, sorry, if you're single in your 30s, dude, it is, it is, it's like a thunder dome out there. I mean, it is unbelievable stuff. I know offense to any women that are in your mid 30s and single, you're not, I wasn't talking about you. I was talking about your friends. From fun, Griff says, the president is the head of the military could stand them down, easiest position to betray the country and destroy it with a single individual. That's why the president has to be a natural born American. Yeah, I guess, I guess so, right? Well, the debate is what is natural born American? Because it doesn't actually say needs to be born in the US. It means inferred citizenship upon birth, which allows you, like for example, if Barack Obama were born elsewhere, he technically would, according to some, still be eligible for the United States because he received citizenship upon birth because his mother was an American citizen. That's why Ted Cruz is eligible for presidency. For example, even though he was born in Canada, it's because his parents were American citizens. And John McCain was born in the Panama, because his dad was there on military service. Yeah, and I don't know if he was born in the canal zone, which would be technically American, or if he was born outside, but there's countless examples of presidential hopefuls that were born overseas, but their parents American citizens, which allowed them to be eligible. Counter-intuitively, if we got rid of birthright citizenship, a lot of people would be ineligible for presidency. I think if a vac in Marco Rubio would both be ineligible, if there were no birthright citizenship at the time, I guess they maybe would have gotten it later, but they wouldn't be eligible for president 'cause they wouldn't have been natural born citizens. And I think that's where we kind of need to go. I think they gotta go. But frankly, I mean, Kamala Harris, God lover, she's a brilliant politician, just strong candidate, but she has no American identity. No, no. Our parents came here, very late in life, one from India, one from Jamaica. Jamaica, you know, and she just happened to be born in California. And then she grew up, most of her childhood in Quebec. In Quebec, you are not thoroughly, you're not a heritage American. You're barely American, legally you are American. It's on all sides, not to do all sides, but a lot, you know, you name prominent Republicans and prominent Democrats, and so many of these people have such strange backgrounds where it's like completely unrelatable to anyone that grew up, not, you don't even need to be middle America, even if you're on the coast, like it still be very exotic and unfamiliar backgrounds, compared to how our elite used to be where, you know, you think about her historically, and they were like, maybe studied in Britain, you know, maybe they were like an all bright scholar. - But they were all school and buttons, members at Yale, right, they all did. - Yeah, very like WASP kind of. In the Bill Clinton study, I think it Oxford, but that's as exotic as that would get. And now you're like, you got a guy whose wife was like in Hamas, and then, you know, you got a guy that was born to like, you know, like Indian army men who were like trying to invade, and then they like pop them out. That's getting whacked in wild. Anyway, I digress. Joey Giggles, that's a good name, says, "Simple enough, no one can run on the state "or federal level unless they were born in the United States. "No more of these foreigners or dual citizenship BS." So he's weighing in on the same debate. Whiffleball21 says she needs to retroactively revoke consent for that interview being aired and blame it on the Republicans. (laughing) That's a tactic. That's a good tactic. - That's very good. - Co7776 says, "The host of the interview "needs to be immediately hired as an ascetic Iran "with that poker face." (laughing) Locked in, locked in. Phoenix216 says, and this is a quote, "When I was younger, I made it a rule "never to take strong drink before lunch. "I got as now my rule to never do so before breakfast." (laughing) - Yeah, I'm just a virtual. I believe that. Yeah, I was hammered. You know, single-handedly one or, you know, contributed to winning World War II and he was probably never sober the entire time. Mason M93, it has to be free IPA day. We don't need hipsters voting. That's how you could win. If you're a underdog candidate in Brooklyn, it's a good shot, you know, do free IPAs. MRP 71775, oh 1775 says, "Mist opportunity "for the Eon Omar raid could have had army rangers "and Delta Force repelling out of black hawks." That would have probably reminded of her childhood. And it's not only that. However, I do enjoy the humorous subtlety of it going down in Columbus Day. - Ooh, oh yeah. - That is good for a laugh. - It is nice. - Yeah. One Griff says, "Men react to incentive structures. "The current incentive structure favors bad "or rich men, because that's what won reward. "When women reward good men with marriage "and loyalty, you'll see that for men." Yeah, there's a lot there, but that's definitely a component is women, ultimately. I mean, I think this is why it's probably good for fathers to weigh in on who they marry to some degree. Maybe again, now you have this problem of girl dads, but historically, like fathers probably had a good sense of who they ought to marry. Maybe we could have them weigh in again, who knows? H.S. Disturbed says, "All my 19-year-old daughter "wants to be as a wife and mother." Almost everyone around her is telling her to wait 'til she's 30, including her boyfriend. It breaks my heart. That is horrible. Yeah, that is absolutely horrible. - New boyfriend. - Yeah, new boyfriend. - New boyfriend. - I'm comfortable saying new boyfriend. - New boyfriend. - He's a lip-tard. That's a non-starter, he's a lip-tard. Yeah, my fiancee, same thing. She had a lot of pressure. And I mean, everyone in the world is telling her, "Wait 'til you're 30, go do the grocery." She's like, "No, I want to be a wife and a mother." I'm going to be much happier in 20 years. - And I'm comfortable saying new boyfriend, 'cause if the reverse was changed, everyone would say new boyfriend. If she was like, "I want to have a career "and he wants me to marry and have a kid, they'd be like it." - He's a new boyfriend. He doesn't care about you. This is what your daughter believes, then get someone and trust me. There's a lot of 19-year-old guys. - Oh, my God. - He's thrilled to meet her and say, "Wow, a woman who wants to have a baby "and get married and have a baby." - Yeah, she's going to get a top shelf boyfriend. It'd be a woman that wants to settle down at that age. - You boyfriend? - Yeah. - Yeah, what is she doing? What is telling her to wait 'til she's straight? It's a boyfriend saying that? Yeah, he's probably just a lip tartar. That's just hormones all jacked up for something. Yeah, get out of there. Get out of there, H.S. to stir up junior. - Are we to stake, boy? - That's right. - Yeah. - A few more YouTube ones have rolled in here from Eric Shaver, nine, three, seven, eight. Our overlords won't even give us appliances that function properly. Do you really think they're going to give us apps with women? No, that's a great point. They gotta go analog. Everyone's going analog again. We need to go back to the bars, apparently. If you go to Los Angeles, there's a burgeoning scene there. And it's kind of sad that unfortunately the dating markets in major cities are decent just because there's so much socialization going on. - It's gotta talk to everyone you meet, even in line at a grocery store. Like, you'd be surprised like it can go places. - That's true. - Yeah. It doesn't have to be bars. You know, there's bookstores, there's sidewalks during the street stores. - That's like practice for when you actually do run into a girl that you want to talk to. And you're like really afraid. - Yeah, I think it might be a little overstated where even I said it earlier, where the reason men aren't approaching women is out of fear of like being rejected or something. I don't think it's over being me too. I think it's over rejection. Which if that's the case, you should get over that. - Well, I think it goes back to very primal instincts and primal evolutionary instincts. There is the fear of rejection. I think I've read that it goes way, way far back in our evolutionary lineage that the fear of rejection was actually related to the fear of death, the fear of being extradited, the fear of being rejected from your tribe 'cause earliest ancestors were tribal. So if they're the act of rejection meant you're being like banished from the tribe. Yeah, cast out which meant. And that supposedly we still have that fear embedded in us. - Which is part of the reason why men overestimate how much a girl likes them. And women overestimate how much underestimate how much a man likes them. So women overestimate how much. - Women underestimate how much a man likes them. So women will feel like guys like them. - Yeah, guys think women all like them. - Women will be like, will be nice to a guy. And a guy will be like, oh, she must like me. So they're both wrong. - Right, yeah, yeah. - She should have been a little more reserved and less friendly to him, so that way he didn't get, because men will pick up the message that a woman likes them if they're just nice to them. And women are like, well, it's just being nice to them. I don't like him. But the point that you're making is the cost of rejection is so high. So the mechanism that basically evolution came up with was, men are going to believe women like them more so they take the risk, that way they'll try. Because you have to take the risk if you're going to, to actually be able to come together with a woman and how a kid. And so women will think that they're just being nice and they won't like the guy in a romantic way. Whereas men will perceive a woman being just totally normally nice and say, I think she likes me. - The huge problem. - I think rejection is one of the best things that can happen to young men. I think young men need to be overexposed to rejection. I mean, get out and get some numbers game. Get out and get rejected. Because each rejection you get is your one step closer to the yes. - I mean, that goes along with the idea that failure is important, right? Like you have to fail to learn how to do things. If you're not failing at things, then you're not learning. - Right. - You have to be uncomfortable to learn how to do things. If you're not uncomfortable, you're not making any progress. I mean, I've been in the same band for 25 years, but I was kicked out of bands before. I tried out for bands and didn't get the job. And then I decided I was going to start my own thing because I was like, why aren't doing that anymore? But if it wasn't for those experiences, I probably wouldn't have started my own band. If I'd have stayed in the band that I had been in first and hadn't gotten kicked out, I probably would have been way more arrogant than I am now. But those kind of failures, those kind of, you know, not getting what you want, build your character and it makes you strong enough so that way you can go ahead and say, well, I failed at this, but I'm going to go try it again. And I think I can get it, or I'm going to do something on my own or what have you. But those things are really, really important when you're learning how to do something. - Well, you said about social media earlier, it plays into that as well because it's a lot more important of an experience to fail in a personal interaction conversation, picking up a chicken at a bar than it is to fail like with a message app. And sometimes you feel it's getting like, I told this girl, like, hey, I'm Daniel. You want to grab a beer and she was like, if you dork and-- - When you're old resumes on. That hurts. - Personal. - But it's hard, but when you do it in person, you learn skills as a social media has harmed people's ability to interact with other people to a certain extent. - It's true. And I think after this show, every one of you watching should go out and cold approach. And brings milk in case you get pepper sprayed. You're going to need some good jokes. We do have to move to the after show. We'll pick this conversation up in the after show. So you don't want to miss it and we can get explicit. - Really let it rip what we've been thinking this whole time. We're going to go to that after show. So make sure you're subscribed on rumble for rumble premium. And we'll see you guys over there. Chris, thanks for coming out. - Thanks for having me. - What's your coordinates? Where can we find you? - On X, it's Chris, underscore heart sock. And on Instagram, it's Christian Heartsock, H-A-R-T-S-O-C-K. - Great stuff. Well, thanks for coming out. Hopefully we see you soon. - Yeah. - Yeah, Daniel Turner, power of the future, power of the future.com for all things energy or Bristol farm Virginia, if you want to check out the most beautiful sheep in all of Virginia, check out our farm. We love our friends. - I am Phil that remains on Twix. The band is all that remains. You can check us out. Apple News, Amazon, Music, Pandora, YouTube, Spotify, or Deezer. If you are in the Orlando area, come November. I think it's November 11th. We'll be playing at the Orlando Warp Tour. Come check it out, it's gonna be a great show. Don't forget, the left lane is for crime, Carter. - I am Carter Banks. You can follow me @X, or on X at, wait. On X at Carter Banks. Sorry, it's been a long day. Phil, you should have Frons when you're in Orlando. - Frons is wonderful, I'd love to see him. - Yeah, they were just in Russia a couple, cut like a month or two ago. And the show, like the pictures, the shows are crazy. - Damn. Yeah, Chris Philly, we just hit our stride towards the end. I'm like, man, we should have just-- - I know, I was talking about this the whole time. Let's talk about him more in the after show. - You can do it. - Instagram, Real Tape Brown, can give me a follow. We'll see you guys in the after show here in like a few seconds, moments, that. (upbeat music) (upbeat music)