If We All Point Our Torches at Once

Hi. Hi. Hello. Hello. Hello. And welcome to Praise Dionysus. Praise him. Okay. We were very not discussed this part. We weren't sure if we were going to do the music. But I was sure that we weren't. I thought we were. Well, it's just the only reason there's any confusion, sweet listener, because of course we're in the midst of a renaissance. So this is one of you've stumbled across one of the like theater episodes. Original recipe. Yes. So we're talking about, yeah, just like a slab of plays. So that's why James has reverted back to vintage Dionysian chanting. Yes. Yes. By memory, by almost muscle memory at this point, that intro. Yes. So I thought we were doing old school and it's going to dive into our regular humbaba. Hey, I would never that sounds very tasteless. I'm sure my ancestors were all in charge of guillotine and nooses. Execution halls. I mind we're probably part of the resistance. I see my surname is Stuart because we were stewards of death. Yeah. And I'm hardy because we got through a lot of stuff. I think maybe because maybe it was an ironic nickname because of your, you know, ancestry of erectile dysfunction. That's probably it's probably that probably it. I want to see it around like a wolf's rope. That's it. It's kind of miraculous that you are here at all, given how flippy floppy they have dongs. Oh, you mean like the genie boy. Them dongs be droopy dongs. This is not the intro we wanted. If it stays in, that'll be a miracle. Well, the only intro we've got, you know. Yes, we're going to have to love our pig face daughter because you can't take her back. I mean, we don't have to love her. No one said nothing about love. And we've got the attic. We're doing nothing with it. Oh, well, other pig faced sun is up there. Oh, Christ. We'll send out to the attic. Are you always funny? Stop. Today, we're going to humbubble or not? Come on, join me. We're doing pigs in the attic by the junior Andrews. Humbubble, humbubble, humbubble. Beautifully charming. Yes. Today, we're going to give a way to you. Stop it. What's probably copyrighted, isn't it? So what are one of the shows we're talking about James E? I will tell you today on the show we are going to be talking about "Ego Death Electra" by The Carnage Garden, Cold War 2.0 by Doppelgangster and Slam Machine Squared by Slam Machine. Great. Great. Should we play the intro music from the comedy festival just because it's funny? Yeah, let's do it with the spooky chuckles in it. Oh, feels good to hear that music again. Doesn't it, just? Yeah, it's vague chuckle fest memories. Yeah, the chuckle fest is a bit unnerving. I don't know why you made it so spooky. That's not up to me. It literally is. How are you? How am I doing what? How am I looking so fresh? Not at all. What I was asking. How are you feeling? How are you doing what's going on in the world? Thank you for checking and that's really sweet. Yeah, fine. The theater's been happening a lot, which has been nice. I went to a preview. The theater's been happening a lot in terms of my attendance. Right. Yeah, I don't know if the rates of theater across the land have increased. Oh, they have. They're up. Sorry, sorry. What are my favorite lines from community? It's just when the police guy, the police guy is over their apartment and he is leaving and he's as he's walking away, he just goes, all right, bye guys. Oh, by the way, walk in pairs to your cars. Ropes up. I'm sorry, but I just think that's a really funny delivery of a line and that just reminded me of that. Apologies. No, don't apologize. No, no, I like if we're talking community, I like when it's early on, I think when they're like shouting about oil on terminals and then that obesity comes up and it's like, why are you yelling no one's on the other side of this argument? Yeah, there's a lot, a lot of good one line is in that show. Yeah, I think of that big fat guy yelling that whenever I'm seeing a piece of theater that is just the left preaching to the left. Oh god, the amount of times it's like, who's, who are you taking this to and who is this for? Yeah, everyone's on everyone in this audience is on this side. Yes. And it's like, and the people here and oh my god, the people that attend theater in the last five years, it's become such an epidemic, attend theater that purports to be satirical and then they sit there in the audience and they clap at their own opinions and then they leave and say, wow, such visionaries, such great ideas. I love their opinions, such necessary and urgent theater. Guys, you've just jacked off in front of a mirror. It was all you fucking chat. Just agreed with yourself about abortion. Like that's fine. Yeah, you should agree with yourself. That's that's called thinking and having integrity. That's all that opinions. Yeah, no, but it's well, it just enrages me so deeply. And that's my thought on that one line from community. Well, I'm glad we dissected it. Yes. Yeah, stop preaching to the left. And if you're going to do satire, expect to be unpopular for a second. You see, I got my little hooves on and I went to the latest satire and I got very confused. You got to the latest? What? I put my little hooves on. And I went to see the latest satire and I got very upset and confused because you thought it was going to be a satire. I thought it was going to be a satire. I thought there were going to be a satire's there and satire's have a little because they have goat half goat. Yeah, yeah, Mr. Tumnus was a satire. Oh, yes. Did he play the harp? Well, don't say no, you're a pan flute. Oh, pan flute. Well, I think they probably have been known to play the harp too. Okay, great. That's my fun little pun for you. Thank you for that. You're welcome. You can use that. Like for what? To the next show. Yeah. Okay. Good. Toilet paper. Have you seen any theatre recently, Dick? Faking a smash cut. Have you seen any? Toilet paper. Have you seen any theatre work recently, too? Um, yeah. Well, yeah, I went to the second preview of Lord of the Flies, which is currently on it. Wow. Not the first one. Not the foot. No, no. No, I didn't want them all to be scrambling nervously around. Which is what they do. Sure. He's the second preview for Lord of the Flies. The second and final preview of Lord of the Flies. Yes, he is what I think that version of Lord of the Flies is by the marketing. Is it Lord of the Flies, but sexy men, like underwear? Is that what it is? Um, well, it's not Lord of the Flies, but sexy men. But it's like it's Lord of the Flies, um, the, the Nigel Williams adaptation of it from the William Golding novel. Um, and there are a bunch of handsome people in it. Lovely. Yeah. Those are facts. Um, the second half of it is, uh, yeah, a lot of underpants. Um, if that's your question. Right. You've answered my question. The short. I'll go and see it. Um, that's all it takes. Oh, God, yeah, for you to buy a ticket. Um, I look up for sex cells and it sells me. I would go and see it for sexy men. All right. Look, I'm going to say I'm glad you're being open about that. Oh, yeah. I'm not, I'm not lying. I'm not going to cover that up. We're going to market to the audience that exists. So yeah, yeah, we should take a leaf out of their book. But I don't know what I've meant by that. Those just shows do have sexy naked men in them. Some of them anyway. And they sell fine. They do. Um, but yeah, yeah, yeah, a really astonishingly talented cast in this show. Uh, it was fantastic. Um, yeah, really, really strong cast. It really shows that they've spent so many months working on the show. Like it's been essentially like a summer camp for them in the way that they developed their unity as a collective and the, the style of performance that they're doing under Stephen Mitchell, right? And yeah, yeah. And I love Stephen's capacity to like create what looks like, like event theatre. It's really impressive. Oh, what do you mean looks like? Well, even like walking into this space, it's like what they've set up is like the set is just this big slab of raked white wood is what it looks like. Yeah, I saw that. I thought it was like fluff or something, but it's big raked wood. It's, it's like they've just taken a big plank or white wood and then just lifted the back of it up. So everyone's kind of tilted towards you. Um, and yeah, it's amazing. It's kind of like everyone's on a big wooden sand do you know something? Right. Yeah. Um, and it means that the actors have to do a lot of running up and down hill. Um, and then there's like rent style scaffolding and stuff at the back, but yeah, yeah. Um, yeah, something that many, one of the many things I respect about Stephen Mitchell, right? Is is, yeah, feel a SNES in Sidfastness when it comes to making things that look theatrically quite epic. Hmm, lovely. Um, yeah, because I remember when I walked into his production of Medea, I was like even just looking at the set before the show started. I was like, oh my god, is this going to be my favorite play ever? Like it just, it looked so impressive. It was, it was fine. It was, it was, there was, there were things I really liked about it. That's it. Yeah. The set and other stuff too. Yeah. And, oh, and Paolo Patolomai was in it. Oh, yes. I remember you waxing lyrically about Paolo. Oh, he's all I want to talk about for the rest of my life. Yes. Yes. Yes. We don't talk about other things as well. La la la la. But yes, that. But yeah, honestly, the only thing that I would say, it was a really impressive production. A lot of the flies. All of it says the adaptation just stinks. I just hate the adaptation that they stuck with. Sure. You know, it's, it's, it just impresses everyone in this very allegorical sounding text. You know, and it sucks out much character nuance that you're able to find. Even with such a, such an impressive array of talented actors inside of this story, they're stuck saying such stilted garbage. Yeah, right. Yeah. And it just ends up feeling kind of like almost like an adaptation of a chess game or something. Which is not this story at its most interesting. Should you do Lord of the Flies? I feel like it's sort of work that you should definitely touch on because I love allegories about the perils of groupthink. Yeah, I guess so, but also like it's just a bunch of young men abandoned on an island and just seeing the sort of social structures that emerge from that just sounds like something you would be naturally interested in. That is why I purchased that island. This would be a cheap island. Wait, wait, wait, wait. My friend Jeff was in charge of that. No, no, no. Oh, yeah. That's where we draw the line. No, but it's like, no, because I was in a production of Lord of the Flies that grew at my high school. Are you the porky one? I mean, picky. I know. No, I was the villain. I was the depending on how you perceive their morality to be. Who's the villain? His name's Jack Mary. Do you? Shit, villain, no. I played him because the the Aldraman teacher wanted to cast against type and you know who I'm naturally quite Built for kind leadership roles That's all we all keep saying about you. Yes, exclusively that. It's only compliments correct. Yes, of course Yes, and she shouldn't have done that. I did not do I didn't give a great performance. Oh, no, I'm sure you were no fun. Fun fact. Listeners may not know the first time I ever saw you was in a production of spring awakening before I met you. Yeah, I saw you in the production of spring awakening at Monash With my friends that I was doing I either with at the time and you were in there. I remember seeing you on stage. Yeah, yeah, yeah, go super happened Yes Well, that's the bitch of living I suppose is that people may stop it see you and then die from an abortion Yeah, that she did die for an abortion. She did. Yeah, yeah, she was German too. They why wouldn't they teach their kids about sex? Well, I guess that's just a real spring awakening. That's One rude spring awakening. Yeah, that's a bunch of sad times Well, I also went to the theater. Oh, yeah, yeah What is if we're talking about shows that we're just briefly mentioning? I went to see the jungle and the sea at MTC. Yes, yes, and it was great really good I don't really like it need to wax the rickle about it too much because everybody loves these this fucking work I just I found it so long first of all three acts. Hello long We're in the second row with Georgie Potter. Yeah, dear friend. Yes, and we went in I don't know if I should say there's no What are you gonna say? So it's a show about the Civil War in Sri Lanka, right? Tamil Tigers Rara Rara and it's by the same people that did counting exactly the same team that did counting and cracking with a similar story and subject matter and this is all about the Yeah, the Sri Lankan Civil War and it sort of follows the journey of this family as they're sort of torn apart by the the civil the strife That's what they call it correct the strife the troubles. Yes, yes And we follow them like sort of cut the cutting between now and then back in like the 95 Yeah, so that's like a horrible story, but You're the one of the first interval, I think Georgie turns to me and says oh, I love that we're talking about one of the characters The and she said I love the way they say and then she's proceeds to do a fairly loud Sri Lankan accent. Oh, it's okay Just in the middle of the second row in this very serious Devastent and I have to sort of say Georgie you can't do that. What was he remarking upon the pronunciation of one specific word? No, I think it was just like we were talking about this character We really like and the way that he delivers his lines and she just sort of delivered one of the lines with love But just use the full Sri Lankan accent and it was just really funny to hear that in this very tender room Well, that's how these sorts of conversations begin, don't they? You know it's it's you aren't sure where the boundaries are we're all curious and loving and full of empathy Yes, I'm of a sound difference do how do we sound Jake who we yeah? How do the different people say on how do the different people? I don't see people that way. You don't hear people. We are one We are me I'm on Earth, we come we share a dream Dancing with one voice is that that's no I am no no because the gorgeous ad that's I've been to cities You look tall. Yeah, cool Australia, huh? Yeah, what's that one? That's the Peter Allen song. What's like the unofficial Australian anthem? It's many who I saw the show I like to show I thought it was great. No, what's what what would you say is like the second option for Australian anthem the characters? Well, it's funny to say this I saw this on my algorithm that popped up these Video challenges which are like three people from a certain nationality sit in a panel and try to guess out of four people Who of those people is the certain nationality they are and they're all one of them is say is three Irish people on the Panel four people in front of them three of them are No, not Irish and one of them is and pretends to be Irish and they have to guess which one it is So it's testing our predetermined prehistoric tendency towards tribalism. Yeah, I was gonna say my net You got into me and I forgot why I brought this up why was I talking about this year? You want to I don't know You're thrilled by race scanning No, there was a reason for this because we were talking about the potential the who's the runner up for the national anthem Yes, it was Australians those three Australians and that one of their questions was all right What would you say is the national second national anthem the other official someone said I'm untouched by the Veronica's that's funny a great choice But not what I would go for okay, if we don't like you like the national Total like oh the old one turns out was written by a racist Which I think it was Maybe is that who you'd put in charge of a national anthem who the the prime minister a racist Why would you do? Hey, look Georgie, what are you mean? Races to Georgie, but she is our favorite race. Yeah, she is her and Kathy Freeman Cuz she won races She's a race How quick you were to quickly explain that you said Kathy Freeman. I saw you panic. I Love her. I think she's very honest word play over suitability. Yeah, thank God. It's just the two of us speaking in private You imagine if anybody heard this we'd be ruined. No, why would you put a racist in charge of choosing the national anthem? I've been saying there's a lot to people lately you do the thinking before you bother me with your stupid question Yeah, I've been meaning to say people don't like it when you say that Well, why don't you take what I said and you decide how you racist because if it's the Australian national anthem is the idea that like They would choose the most true blue Aussie song we go, and it's not necessarily just the Australian national anthem But if you had to oh sure if we're choosing like the white nationalist Australian no, no, it's just like you know Cuz I would say I would want a song that is inclusive of all well I think it's interesting to suggest that just as an like an ongoing international Philosophy that if you're going to get someone to write the national anthem. You should choose a huge racist Because if they channel that bigotry in the right direction you could get a really these songs are kind of idiotic You know and it could channel their their bigotry in a really interesting passionate direction You know and then you of course go about rehabilitating them But if you want a song about how great that like your own country is yeah, but I feel like the song would have a little too of our country I know one else says that's the premise of all of the songs except I think Scotland, which is about like a dragon fight Oh, it's got that's cool, but I I just don't think we should be feeding internationalism I'm not feeding internationalism. It's directly what that is. I am utilizing the existence of Nationalism and then you swiftly throw them into the sea. Oh, I would have said the nut bush The nut bush that's not even an Australian song. Yeah, but I feel like we've claimed it and that's but it's more of a dance than a song Yeah, that's fun having a national anthem that has a dance that goes with it That's cool. There's also a song about a city and that's also ableist I suppose what is having a national dance? Yeah, are you saying that all the nations that have a national dance are ableist? I am saying that I'm going on record is saying that right now. Okay, fair. Okay, but I think that's an idiotic answer Not push city limits Okay, it's not that probably if we're being serious it would probably be I call Australia home Okay, great or that jet star one Qantas one. I think that's a nice choice that I still call Australia home Yeah, I think that's probably I think there's that is the Qantas one I think I still call Australia home is good because it also incorporates the idea that other countries exist Like I think it's that it's also fine to go to them. Yes, if anything it's encouraged And you know people tell those like beautiful lame stories about when they're coming home on planes and they hear that song played They start crying. Oh, I know Sweet house too, but it's yeah, I don't know, but it's kind of outward facing. Have you ever cried? Have I ever cried? No, oh, I'm a strong man. Why? I mean, I think so like my like I'm not gonna say too much about jungle and the sea they did great They know that it great. That's good. Yeah, I'm surprising because counting and cracking is one of the best things I've ever seen Well, I that's why I saw I paid to see this show Oh my god. Oh my god. And it was very expensive. Mm-hmm But it was worth it because I really regret not seeing counting and cracking everybody says it was the best thing they've ever seen Yeah, and this show felt very much of the same vein and was just devastated really really devastated And this one wasn't inexplicably as counting and cracking was at the Melbourne University theater No, it was at the South Bank Theater. Good for their proof. They had a revolve Oh, the big revolve And big revolve. Yeah, the second act it was devastating. The second act was was like this family that we've been following just wandering through Moose, I'm wonder Moose, but we can accent a little bit We'll get Georgian And just watching this family with this like older grandmother figure the mother and the children just wandering through this devastating city as It's being bombed and people are like trying to figure out where to go as everywhere they go Has been like declared as a safe zone has been like suddenly declared not a safe zone And like the rotate is just going the whole time and this family is just walking the entire second act Really effective. Yes, I thought it was great. That's beautiful. Yeah. Yeah, thanks. Yeah, God Yeah, there was like a similar-ish image I suppose when a bunch of I believe it was migration was occurring in counting and cracking And they were all sort of like walking like walking towards us down stage in a big cluster And it was almost it was kind of like a slow-motion version of um, you know at the end of like the first half of lame is when they're Hearing people yeah, and they do that kind of like really cool like machi squared ants. Yes, they love that. Yeah, but devastating I haven't cried in the theater in a long time and that show may be cried. Yeah, yeah. Because I'm a pussy. That's pretty weak and embarrassing. Thank you so much. Do you want to start talking about some shows? Yeah, let's do it. Hello, Shane Z. Hello. Hi, this is the Cun's Garden. We're doing the. Sorry, if you say it that fast, it does sound like Cun's. The Cun don't leave it. I think it's important to keep that on record. The Cun's Garden. I just say it so often that it's just trying to invent abbreviations, you know? That's a sweet word. It's like, what, Portmanteau and what are others? I said her off. Oh, an ampersand? Yes, yes, ampersand. Ampersand, yes. So those are examples of what I tried to do with Cun's Garden. But it didn't really work. Well, not this time, but that's the thing about linguistic evolution. As I learned in my one and a half terms of studying it at Monash University. Do you want to hear more of my qualifications? Not at all, no. And so, went to the meat market stables, because the Cunage Gardens were doing Ego Death Electra. A title I still don't super-duper understand. Yes, Ego Death. I get that term. Electra is like one of the Greek muses? One of the other things? One of the ladies. Yeah, just one of the several characters that were affected by things like Agamemnon and Tiguni. Oh, they are human Electra. Yeah, a human lady that spends the bulk of this play in a bathtub grieving? Oh, same. Mind the grieving. I just love a bath. You do. And yes, for those playing at home, you may have recently heard the interview conversation that I had with Nicholas J. Car that came up. On this very podcast. Yeah, to speak about this exact production. Yeah. It has now happened as established in that conversation. And as it's about to be now between you and me, Jamesy. I saw this book in the eyes. I saw a developer performance of this show. What? A couple of weeks ago. Okay. At the 16th Street Studio. Yeah, right. I'm calling it. I don't know if that's what it's called. But in one of the rooms at that school called 16th Street. Right. Yes. Have you had many entanglements with that educational institution? I somehow have not. It feels like everybody I know has. I've not been engaged with the 16th Street. I feel like I have my proxy. Okay. Yeah. What's your preferred street? If you had to pick a street. Top of your head. Which street do you want? I have a new. Okay, that's a great answer. Thank you. Yes. So what do you want? You have one. Pick sesame will be neighbors. Why would. That's true. Yeah. Is sesame street close to Avenue Q? I don't know, but I feel like those puppets must all be friends. Must they? Yeah. Aren't all puppets friends? And aren't all puppets puppets? I guess these things might be true. It's true. Yeah, I don't know. I think I'd rather be on Easy Street because I don't know. It seems like it does seem more your speed, doesn't it? Thank you. Yes. And also because what does the song suggest? Is it that's where you sleep till noon? I think it means I'm rich. Easy Street? Yes. Yes. And I think it's you're allowed to openly resent orphans if you're over there. Oh no, you didn't do that any time. You can. But it's not frowned upon an easy street. Which is in the second verse. Kicking kids. Anyway. So what does the ego death electra? Right. And yet, so it's. Electra is in this moment of grief because her father is dead. And they're in the midst of it. So of course it's been recontextualized from the old Greekness of it all. And now we're in a modern bathroom in a modern mansion. And the event happening downstairs is Electra's dead father, the Kurt Cobain-esque rock star, whose posthumous album is being celebrated. And so we get intrusions from several of the characters that are currently opening her in this. Like the wake of this recent death that's before on this family that seems very prone to tragedy. Right. And so many of these ancient Greek families are. Well, they don't call them tragedies for nothing. So tell me more about this. So yeah, this bathroom just kind of has a revolving door through which many of these characters enter. Right. And as. What sort of bath are we talking about? What sort of bath? Yeah, it's a chlorfooted tub. There we go, I was hoping it would be great. Clorfooted tub. And it's sort of. It's plunked atop a collection of semi-melted candles since you asked. Like big, thick, pillar-style candles, but they're all kind of worn down to a nub, you know? Like, you know the thing where you stop using a candle when it stops being attractive looking as opposed to seeing it the whole way through? Yes, absolutely. Yes, yes. That's how you treat your candles? Well, no, the big fat ones I do. I don't think I've ever gotten to the bottom of a big fat one. I've definitely used up all the skinny ones, but like a big fat one. Like, I get to a certain point and I'm like, I need a new one. Sorry. I'm just doing bad sex jokes in my head. Yeah, I could tell that's what that was and I was going to give you the grace to move on. But I'm chocolate. Yeah, let's keep on skating. I went to the after party of this show just to jump around. And I spoke to a woman that I met at the after party because, you know, I'm a socialite. And it was really interesting to speak to her because she studies fashion and works in fashion. And I was interesting that a thing that she got hung up on was the fact that there was like a pair of belly slippers on the set. The sort of nearby, nearby these like stumpy candles and by the bathtub that she was fixated on. Not just because they were beautiful shoes, but because she was excited to see Mia Floriani put the shoes on because of how they would look on her. And also just because the shoes themselves were exciting. Is it interesting that different like perspectives people bring to theater? It is fascinating. Yes. I just see that just really stuck with me. I would not look twice at any pair of shoes in my life. I'm really not a carry in my friendship groups, you know. No, you're more New York City, aren't you? I'm more of a J.D. as type. No. I'd say for incorporating it in just like that, I'm a SEMA. I'm a SEMA, James. I'm a SEMA. I know many of these people. You are rock. You called me Miranda, is that good? No. Okay. No, but she finds herself later on. Anyway, they have, and I spoke to Nicholas a little bit about this. They have painted themselves into a bit of a corner dramatically in the way that the part of this very lengthy tale that if you zoom out and you look at all these interlinked plays and tragedies that Electro falls within, they've carved out a really interesting portion of time and theatrical difficulty in that they've chosen this portion of the story that is a lot of just sort of like languishing and lying around and grieving and scheming and biting time. So trying to inject rigor and energy into that dramatically is certainly a large feat that they've gone about attempting. And the method by which they've attempted to do so is kind of just invigorating it with a lot of like self-reflection on the recent past, the looming future and how all the characters feel about each other in a way that's kind of like in the wheel spinny way that kind of soap operas do. Like I was certainly raised by my mother in front of the television. So many of us are. But not all of us. But not all of us. You know, and that's the real tragedy. No, the in front of the television as was playing "Bold on the Beautiful." So I-- Oh, really? I have never seen an episode of "Bold on the Beautiful." Well, look. I spent a lot of time criticizing your mother's parenting style and I'm going to get onto my stacks on. Yeah, no, no. But soap operas, you know, they-- because they have to run for so long. And, you know, you don't want to like eat through the great plot points too quickly. There's a lot of standing around staring at each other and just reiterating things that have happened recently and things that you're excited to do soon. Fabulous. Yes. So some of the writing kind of had that quality to it where it was a lot of reiterating things that had we been, you know, being in earlier in the season we'd already know, but they're adamant in trying to catch us up. Sure, OK. You know? Yes. So that's one quality of this work. They've changed it from the development in which Nicholas was like playing. Ascent, like most of the other characters, apart from Tristan Bell, who was reprised his role as Mitch. Who, a character that I've always said was a little bit unnecessary, but is there. His name is Mitch. And that's kind of how the play starts with Elektra and he kind of like humping in the bathtub. And then he's kind of around to, especially in this version of the show, is just kind of around to gawk at things and say that things are crazy. Oh, that's important because otherwise the audience won't be able to tell when things are crazy. It's helpful. People need a surrogate. They've got Mitch. We all need a Mitch. I'm going to say Mia Floriani, you do a wonderful job stepping into the role of the titular Elektra. Oh, was she electric? I'm not going to go that lazy. I'm not going to be one of those reviewers that's like, that production of Cats was perfect. She's never going to be really scratched the each that I had. Because Cats like it was scratched. I suppose they do. It was a horrible. I thought something that was great about Mia's performance was the way that she was so actively. I don't know, it's one of those qualities that you don't always get in an actor. I was enjoying seeing it where there's so adamantly trying to do something to the actors that are around them. For me, it's certainly like a cornerstone of kind of like the bare necessities of naturalistic performance is ensuring that what you're doing is present inside of you. You know, that each of your words has goals. Or your actions have goals. Because you're a human being trying to affect something else. There was so much present in her very grounded energy that was like, I'm speaking to you. Do the thing that I'm urging you to do. Even if that thing is just to better understand and validate the suffering that I'm going through. Sure. So that was a cool element for her performance to have. Especially since so much of it is her just kind of like making a case for the merit and the weight of her misery. In this story, that is quite, you know, decidedly stagnant. I was sort of a mention like the beautiful as I did with the development. development. Really, I really appreciate it. The pace at which Nick is able to deliver dialogue while still loading it with enough stuff for it to be interesting. Hmm, just like. As I'm so often spending my time internally screaming, hurry the fuck up with a shit you're saying! Yes! And I never have to worry about that with Nick! Sure! That is a relief, because things can be loaded with dramatic pause. Like a cat has pause, I was bringing it back to cats. Like, oh, cats can have dramatic pause. Yeah, it's a throwback, I'm sorry, I apologize. No, no, don't be sorry, I don't think it's very good at talking. Yes, yes, and I just want to stress too, yeah, the capacity to not lose the detail, you know? Yeah, of course, pace and detail, wonderfully done. Especially while playing this rather sort of like frosty determined type A sibling. Oh, sure. That they do in this work. And then yeah, the final thing I want to say is just pointing out the wonder of Lachlan Hughes, who was a stranger to me up until this production happened, and now we've had a bunch of conversations, and I think he's marvelous. I think he comes in as the, well, I know he comes in as the unexpected brother that returns to his sister in this work. But yeah, there's a real, I want to say like, gutturaly masculine tenacity to him, like at least in this role, you know, and I think, yeah, there's, yeah, it feels like one of those actors that is really keen to kind of like get disgusting, and I think when that is like a palpable quality in somebody, and it's a suspicion that hasn't been snuffed out by getting to know him a little bit, and I think that's an exciting thing to see in someone that someone that I now know explicitly is keen to be driven by curiosity and an understanding that he still has so much more to learn in his craft. So yeah, he's an exciting talent that is now, you know, on, on the scene. Arguably may have been on the scene before, but now on your radar. It's arguable. On my radar, certainly on the scene. Yes. What else is he on? My self-determined status as theater's gossip girl does continue to pay dividends for you, sweet listener. For God's sake. For that. That's lovely. What a nice little bunch of people. Yeah, absolutely yes. Yeah. The whole thing was directed by Steven Entoni, who is an artist that continues to intrigue me. And I'm keen to see what happens next. Hi. Hi. Hello. I too went to see a show. Oh, yeah. Why are you nervous? I don't know. I have a nervous tick. I just thought it would make me sound cool. I went to see Cold War 2.0. Okay. My doppelgankster. Yes. At the Lama court house. Okay. I haven't been to the court house in a long time. It was nice to be banned. Fabulous. Now, you've been to see a doppelgankster show in the past. Am I right in saying either that or some of the creatives were involved in that Peter Pan show in store like a year ago? Yes. Some of them were involved with the, yeah, that, that traumatizing but impressive Peter Pan adaptation that they did. And then I very, very recently saw Deadstock, which had connected to it some of the core members of doppelgankster. Right. Okay. Your experience of seeing that Peter Pan show. Yes. I now completely understand. Really? Yes. Can you sort of briefly, for the people, just briefly give us an idea of what your experience of seeing that Peter Pan show was? Really? It was decidedly very sort of like, it was kind of like a grimy, angry piece of theater that was kind of 60% terrifying golf punk concert at theater works. And it kept kind of beckoning, sometimes explicitly, sometimes implicitly, the permission to start a mosh pit. Oh my God. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yes. And had this sense that at any moment they could just start tossing knives. So that's one billion percent my experience of this show. Okay. I also, part of also why my blood was kind of like on a boil the entire time with anxiety was the sense that at any moment they could like get you involved. Yeah. And you were sitting in the front row. I was. Yeah. For some reason I thought, oh, this will just be like a lovely little, higgledy-piggledy independent theater show and I'll just smile warmly. Okay. But I spent the whole thing just feeling like I was like struck to an electric chair. And I have had that exact same experience now. Oh great. Let me tell you. Because I walked in. The set for this show is like, it's a bunch of banners all over the place. It's a thrust stage. So it's sort of around the three sides of this floor space. The seating, the rake seating is sort of very much removed. And there's like a one row of seats where that usually is in the courthouse. And then behind that where the rake seating is sort of stacked away, these huge canvas banners are sort of hung over all the space there. Banners over the front of where the usual proscenium arch space stage would be. And it's all the banners are saying things like, no man is an island and various catchphrases about like global warming and climate disaster. As we walk in, because their work is decidedly like engaging with the climate crisis. Right? I've seen that's what the blurb says. Okay. That's what the bio says. Okay. And so that's what I interpreted most of the work to be about. Okay. To be very clear, this show was similar to the one you saw, I would say 80% loud music singing into the microphones in ways that unfortunately I couldn't understand a word that was being said. Okay. And so I think I had a very much a Jake experience of not understanding what most of the work was about. Which I love letting my namesake to. Yes. The fact is literally happened like twice. It's happened much more than twice. I was being nice. So I walked in, ran into a friend, sat in the front row of one of the seating banks because there's two little rows of seats and we sat in the front. Okay. As the show is starting, there's already some loud music happening and the performance come on stage. So we've got Tobias, Manderson, Galvan and Aquila, Sorensen. Okay. Come on stage. They've got like suits that are sort of like haphazard and sort of torn and a bit dirty and on the back of them is pin slogans. Again, no man is an island. And Tobias has sort of, you know, like when people are bald and have like cool tattoos on their head, like a spider web around their head on their bald head, you know, that sort of. I can imagine the things you just described. Yes. That's drawn on with the Sharpie. Okay. Great. Which I think is a great look. Come on and they sort of start immediately sort of immediately interacting with the audience in this way of like all right guys, we're going to need your phones. And so because we're trying to blind, like an airline pilot in the sky, no point out torches at once. No, no, no. They take our phones. So me and my friend were like, yeah, yeah, sure. It's a show. We'll give you our phone. We all hand in our phones and they then put them into a briefcase, close the briefcase and take the briefcase away and put it to the other side. The perfect crime. I'm a reflection because part of like their advertising and a lot of their reviews and a lot of the things that people say about them is this show has gone around the world and garnered like either standing ovation or like a huge amount of walkouts. Like that's sort of like there's seems to be it's really polarizing and people go either way. So my thought is I think the phones are to stop people from walking out so much because if you walk out you might look at your phone back. Yeah. That case. That's what I'm imagining. That's what I'm thinking. There were two two distinct points during this show I was like, I need to leave and I couldn't because they had my phone. It felt like a hostage situation. I was like, I can't leave. They've got my I can't leave. I cannot leave because they've got my phone. Okay, great. So, you know, that's just I need you to know that's the backdrop for me. This show is they've got my phone. Oh God, I can't leave. So it's as if they've got your sister on a chair with a gun pressed to her forehead and they're like, laugh at the jokes. God, I wish that's what was happening but no, they've got my phone. Oh. That's that's smart theater making. They take my phone and then they start handing out snow cones that they're making with this fancy little ice crossing machine. Oh. Okay. That's something they do at the start. Are they flavoured? They were. I didn't have one. They were like only handing out a few of them and they were passed around to the, it was weird black thick substance they poured on top of the ice, which I'm assuming was maybe just like a very dark red but it looked like black and it was really yucky. So I didn't want one. Okay. And as the show goes on, it sort of alternates between these two modes. One of the modes is the two of these characters or Tobias and Aquila. I can't tell how much of it is real. It's the two of them talking about like their past experiences of being like climate activist people going into like, you know, running into airports with fake bombs to see how far they could get to like make a statement or like talking about like like an in CIA takedowns of various nations around the world, so what's going on today and they sort of have this very fast, almost like watching an insane table tennis match between these two as they are just non-stop often talking over each other, often not seemingly listening to each other at all. This very fast pattern. Are they speaking to each other or to you? To each other. It's a conversation between the two of them and we, the audience, happen to be there like often times Tobias will come out and just sort of lay across our laps and like crawl over us or like it's just really get in amongst us like at certain points. There was a certain point where he threw a little bit of ice at one of the audience members and the audience member got up and like oct up at him in this way that was like super like oh, are they actually about to fight? And like he's then seen to back down. There was this sort of like bromance sort of like all right, like a hug, but like everyone feels amped up during this whole but everyone nobody feels comfortable. What sort of man was this in the darked up? Like a white guy, like I'd say like late 30s, early 40s, handsomely dressed man, look like he would have been like a English teacher. And he felt disrespected or something. It seemed to be like a genuine arc up. I'm not sure if it was. was like, he was playing along with it, you know? It felt very real and playing along with it. - My friend and I got like, "Oh, do we need to leave?" Like, I need you to know, I felt at no point during this show, safe or comfortable. (laughing) Which is, you know, it's important to go to art that makes you feel uncomfortable, I guess. But then, so that was one mode of the show with these fast-paced conversations, which I only caught half off. And then the other mode, which was a large portion of the show was various songs that they had written that they were singing. And it was sort of like loud punk screaming. And the first time they did one of the songs, they invited a bunch of us up to dance. So me and my friend were pulled up on stage. - Oh God. - Just the two of you? - No, no, it was a group of maybe like five, to sort of, as you put, start a mosh pit. It was like, you know, the punk mosh pit, like everyone just sort of dancing, and I went away from home. - This is what I've realized it looks like when, 'cause this is another part of the show that I, this is what I loved, this element of the show, a lot of, a few of the audience members were clearly like real punks, like real, like activists, anarchists, punks. And whenever the music would come on, they would lurch onto the stage and start punk dancing, like that sort of death mosh pit. - Yes. - Like, you know what I mean? The wall of death, that sort of thing. And they were doing this dance, and I was watching it. I was like, this is amazing to see this sort of community. Like, just to see them in action, just was like a genuinely interesting and unique thing, 'cause it's a portal into a world that I don't know anything about. And the only way I can describe some of the dancing that I was seeing is, you know, I think it's Charlie Brown. (laughing) Yeah. (humming) When they all sort of dance. - They're sort of dancing solo, and they're putting the same room as each other. - It looks a bit like that. - Okay, and that one of them is a dirt cloud around their feet? - Well, they were punks, so yeah. But more in this, I'd way of like everyone's sort of dancing completely on their own as a group, if you know what I mean. Everyone's on their own journeys of like thrashing and expressing violently and moving. - And you are one of these Charlie Browns. - Yes, but only the first time. - Okay. - So there's a number of mosh pits inside. - There was several of these songs, and every time one of these songs was started and singing began. Like, I would say like four or five hardcore punks would take to the stage and join in and just start thrashing them out and dancing. It was that really impressive to watch, 'cause the amount of, the amount of, I think that was my favorite part of the whole show, like the amount of, I don't even know what it would be, is it just a complete lack of embarrassment of knowing ambitions, or is it just a complete devotion to feeling and expressing that anger or rage or whatever it is? Like to see that acted out in front of you was quite impressive. There was a moment when one of the punks reached for me to join in, and I had to do the awkward. It was so loud, but I had to do this awkward. Oh no, thank you, I'm fine. And then she was like, oh, okay, okay. But it was just like, that was really interesting to watch. But during these songs, on the back wall is projected the lyrics. And I then ran into the problem of I'm on the side, they're dancing sort of just in front of me, the lyrics are off to the side. So to try and understand what's being sung, 'cause I can't hear it properly, I'm turning and looking at the lyrics and missing out on what's going on the stage. And if the whole thing just felt a little bit, it seemed like the lyrics were crucial. Did they have instructions? Was it like the chicken dance? Another one of words of the chicken dance? What's a song where they have the words if you follow the words? Like a cookie? No, the time warp? The time warp? Yes. There were no songs like the time warp. Okay. I'm sorry to hear that. All the songs, one of the songs that I liked, one of the lines that I liked from one of the songs was Titanic was an inside job. I just think that's fun. But they're all along the line. All the songs. A lot of people die, jokes. Yeah, as long as we're going off now. Yeah, I found it pretty hard to relate to any of the work, just because I found it quite hard to interpret what was happening. Yeah, because you're an oil tycoon. And because I just, I want to watch the world burn. I don't help me, I do. Yeah, but hats off to the amount of energy these performers kept up the entire way through in itself was just like sweating profusely by the end of the show, like real exertion on show. Like that element of the show I found very impressive. The punks getting up, I found really, really interesting to be a part of that. I wonder if they go to other plays. Well, this is, I assume I'm hoping they're going to most of the Lama punk climate festival they're doing. But yeah, I wonder. I wonder what sort of gigs they're going to. I wonder where the gigs are. Yeah. It's not because I don't think punk people go to theater. It's just part of, and there are several reasons. So I'm sort of speaking is if I'm a different person. Like part of, so comfortably in Violet is too strong. But it's like go against the expected behavior of an audience to the point where you could stand up in the theater and contribute to the construction of a mosh pit. Yes, it seems. It's so alien, but it's like. And it's so far under the idea of what the rules are when you go to the theater. Yes. Because they would get up without being asked every time. That's crazy talk. Because that's like, I'm not even going to join a mosh pit at a concert. No, I want to be in the seated area. I want to be home. Yeah. Can I say something that might be so stupid? I don't particularly care for live music. That's adulthood. I just, I'm like, I'll watch a video of it from home. But like, I don't really care that much. That's one of those things where if you find out that if you don't love it, there's so much about it that sucks that if you realize that it's just not worth going through all the shit stuff to get to the kind of mediocre stuff at best. No, absolutely. So there's certain artists that I will go, like Lady Gaga. You know, like I'll go to Lady Gaga. Yeah, yeah. But that's always hard. To be a max to your little monsters. I went to see Lady Gaga back row of the grand tops, whatever things. The grand circle at the arena. Yes. Yes, great, Dad. Yes, that's what they call it. Plasted beyond belief. Uh-huh. I saw three Lady Gaga's that night. It was great. Okay. I couldn't tell you a single thing that happened, but I know that I enjoyed myself. That sounds worth it. With my little monsters. I'm in a fortunate position where, like, most of the artists that I love most when it comes to music are artists that if they even come to Australia, they can only fill up a space smaller than the forum, you know? You're just, you're just in that niche, I guess. Well, I wouldn't call it, well, I guess it is technically niche, but not I'm like a, you wouldn't even, you don't even have anyone heard of the bands I like. So I'm that unique. But it's, it's the right, but it's just, you know, maybe they're marketing's bad. But it's, yeah. It sounds more like, yeah. It's fortunate that I can go to, like, gigs in little bars, and be like, that's my, one of my favorite people. That's so nice. But also, I would be more interested in that than, like, a large concert, right? I feel like we moved on from talking to our show. Yeah. Britney Spears did, like, a little thing at the Howler. The Howler. The Howler. That's what they call it. Yeah. The Howler. Yeah. That would be heaven. I remember, like, the first time that Taylor Swift came to Australia when I was in, like, year 11. Oh my god. She was, yeah, coming to something that was essentially like a Howler-sized venue. What? And I just couldn't go with my, you know, secret hospital boyfriend at the time, because we were only 17 and yet to be over 18 to go. Oh, Taylor. Yeah, but we were on there on the ground floor of Taylor Swift's significance, you know? I mean, I don't consider myself a Swiftie anymore. Which is important. I don't consider myself a Swiftie anymore. - God, that's sentenced. (laughing) - Yep, go on rich community we're part of, that's a Melbourne theater sentence. - Go on. - Yeah, I've seen them once before as a sketch troop collective, which is what I've decided they are. - Am I right in saying that the show's called Slam Machine, Slam Machine, Slam Machine? Or am I making that up in my head? - That's not the name of this show. I can guarantee that because this show is called Slam Machine, Squared. They themselves are-- - Which Slam Machine, Slam Machine. Slam Machine. - Uh-huh. - All right, I'm gonna-- - I don't care anymore. (laughing) - Yes, so this is the second time that I've seen them and the moment they were on stage, I was like, "Oh, I've missed these people." It was so nice to see these characters again. (laughing) - These slammers. - Yeah, I'd missed them. I forgot, I forgot, I don't know, some of their qualities and stuff. They were fun collective. I liked them a lot. They're goofy and odd. I'm glad they found each other. - It is hardening, isn't it? - Yes, and yeah, I had a giggly goofy time at this this matinee performance or this sketch show. - God, a matinee sketch show. - That's a different energy, 'cause when I see a sketch show, I'm like, "I want drinks." - Sure. - Like I wanna be a little tipsy for fun. - Yeah, yeah. Well, you wanna be black out for Lady Gaga. - So that is me. - That is me. - We come from different directions. - That is true, that is true. - Yeah, so if I'm in a sketch show, I want to forget it. (laughing) But yeah, no, so which brings me to this point, now that I've established that I think these people are very talented and charismatic, I need to come to my thesis. I think, I think, many thesis is too strong, it's one of the best things to say is stupid. The ship of thesis? The ship of thesis. No, is this you wanted to explain the ship of thesis to me? No, it's just another pun. Okay. That's all I'm bringing to this episode. Okay, great. Ah, yeah, the energy of this show was so horny. I know, right, but it really snuck up on me and I was like, what's going on? Because it was like, it wasn't that time of like gross horny where it's like, oh, you guys all have a thive and we're just kind of like watching you be sweaty. It was like, oh no, I'm a board. Like this is, oh no, I was like, what's happening? What can you give an example? What do you mean? Well, I'm going to have to give you examples because otherwise it just sounds like I'm objectifying these talented people. Yeah, but it was the subject matter. Like there was just something in the air and something that kind of like in the style of these sketches that were happening. Which were of course just these little sort of episodic vignettes that happened. Some of which had connective tissue but most didn't. But there was something and that's things since seeing it a couple of days ago. I've been able to like sit with my thoughts and be like, what was so horny about that show? Because I was just, yeah, I was like, I was just like biting my bottom lip being like, what is this show? Oh my god, crossing your leg. Giving a standing ovation even though you're sitting down. And that's the thing, I'm never sex first when it comes to a show, but this was. You're barely sex last, like you. So this is what I worked out. It's that a lot of, I had to sit down and write a list. I had to sit down and write a list. A lot of the sketches essentially, they contained either something that was overtly sexual or a secret yearning. A secret powerful yearning. And I think that is what gave it this air of like passionate sensuality. Do you think it was intentional? I can't imagine so. That's the thing. While it was happening, I was like, I went into like PR mode. I was like, guys, you've really got something here. Like there's no one doing kind of like vaguely sexually tinted sketch comedy. Because I remember when, what feels like years ago, Kong came on this show and was talking about his experience training to be a clown. And said that thing that has been echoing in my head ever since. That thing of like a clown has to be fuckable. The moment that a clown is no longer fuckable, they fail at being a clown. Like there has to be something sexy about them. I remember that quote. Yeah, and it's like, well, yeah, for that reason alone, like there is something like. And these people deliberately or not have kind of cornered the market of. Kind of like a sketch comedy. Sexy sketch comedy, they also just to say of more qualities. Because there's also like a vague Europeanness to the tales that they weave, which I think is really charming. There's also like an other queerness to them as well, which I think is cool. Yeah, again, I really like this collective. The sketchy sets. Sorry, stop trying to make every episode. I always want sketchy sets to happen. Someone should do sketchy sets. And it sounds like I should be the horny group. You and I are the only people on board, but the idea of trying to theatricalize the idea of sketchy sets. So I think put that to rest. I think there are a lot of. Until you have funding, we need to stop talking about it. I think there are a lot of listeners who would like to see sketchy sets. So these are the. So these are the things that were happening. Okay, so because again, every scene had. Unless I've forgotten some, but I don't think I have. Every scene had either something overtly sexual or secret to do it. So first up, we have a surprise birthday party for an audience member. This is like the very start of the show. This is the prologue, essentially. And one of the characters enters with a pair of balloons inside of their top as large breasts. So this is just as the ball gets rolling. And that is one of the weaker examples. And of course, breasts aren't inherently sexual, but there was a vibe. They're not inherently sexual to you. I think someone would say breasts are inherently sexual. But some people would, but they also serve several purposes. Oh, absolutely. So feeding babies and filling dresses up. You know, all of these things and more. Yes, the dress or the breasts. And then we get a dog show, okay? Okay. Okay, so the fact you're already moaning is something. We get a dog show. But it's like, there's also this beautiful man as entered the dog show. But instead of a dog, he has this pumpkin with whom he has this really strong, confusing attachment to. Lovely. So it's like this almost objectophilic experience of him describing and caressing this beautiful pumpkin that he loves. I can see how that would be honing. And again, this is the beginning. There's this one where it's just these two hunky men that have thick necks at the gym. And they keep finding excuses to touch and sniff and kiss each other. Well, that one's kind of pornography. There's a ghost to it where we're going to the idea of the secret yearnings. That this haunted doll wants to reap vengeance on the new inhabitants of the house that they're in. Which is really interesting the way that they've bent the mechanics of the drama of the scene. It's great because we get in real time, we get to experience the woman leading the ghost to her. And we get to see the inhabitants of the haunted apartment that may themselves be kind of like the spirits of the story being told. It was high concept for sketch. I love that. Yeah. But I don't I don't want to spoil the entire thing. Like the show has closed, but it's like I'll give you some like stronger examples. There's like in one of the scenes there's a guy playing a public toilet. And and he has a tip in costume. He is shirtless and wearing the toilet seat around his groin. And the toilet flaps about the the organ region. Oh, okay. And the builder wants to use the toilet. I'll bet he does. And the toilet wants to be used. I'll bet he does. This is a very queer sounding show. Yeah, and there's one where it's like and again, this is all very funny. But I have to explain to you that the pervading thing for me was yeah, how like just I had like the soundtrack to porn movies. It might hit playing a lot of the time. There was one where there's this goblin that has to that that encourages you to eat your meals or something. It was a meal goblin. Correct. But the parents of the child being encouraged by the demon got attracted to the demon inside some sort of goblin centric threesome. That's pretty funny. Yeah, so it's like that's that's what I'm going to say. I really like this collective of sketch comedies, but this show specifically was lustful. Stay horny, boy. And yeah, I appreciate it. I appreciate it for the most part due to their talent. And again, I realized I missed seeing them because I like these personalities from the stage. They work well together. And look, and I'm a I'm a I'm a I'm a you're a what? I'm not a skeptic, but I'm like I come into sketch comedy and like improv comedy with a you know, with a similar level of like, okay, what's this going to be? Sure. Sure. You know, I'm ready to giggle, but I don't expect to be overwhelmed. Well, we've all been burned before by all both of those four. Yeah. And it's also like the even the idea like the skills that they're purporting to possess are such rare and difficult ones. Yes. You know, to find a troupe of just strong people is almost impossible. And then on top of that is to it's so contingent on the audience's energy as well. You know, like they can blow it. Oh, yeah. And if you have real craftsman up there, it's like if we're all out here being like, oh, another one about a dog show. It takes a village check. Most things do I find, especially if you fill the population up with dunderheads. But yes, so what was I even saying that yeah, I approached just get comedy and improv with a level of the guardedness. But I, but I never dread seeing these people because they're a they're really engaging type of peculiar. I think that's why I was so content to leave the show and it's been so much time unpacking what it was that they just did. Well, that's a nice way to walk away from a show to have some homework to do. Is that good? I worry that I've over sexualized the experience. No, no, I think I don't think they would be upset. I mean, if I was in a show like that and I heard someone talk about how horny and sexy the show was, I'd be pretty happy. Yeah, because it was it was funnier than it was horny, but it was horny. I don't boy, it wasn't horny. Slam machine. Well, I mean, they're not called slam machine for nothing. Look, yeah, maybe that's maybe that's what they're attempting. Maybe. Have you asked them? You should reach out. Again, I don't know how to do that without. Sorry, sorry. Can you guys try any fucking horny? Because you turn me the fuck on. That's because we know people that have received messages like that. Yes. And they loved it. I don't think it's much more appropriate to do it on a podcast. Yeah, well, we have everyone can hear this. Wait, people are going to hear this? Yeah, provided that you Jamesy think that I've said nothing to underwater in appropriate. Not at all. No, I think that sounds like a horny, horny show. Okay, so I'm just going to wear complicit in this. Okay, don't eat out of choking. Charming, I don't think so much. Well, are you adorable? I'm a horrible. What is that cat? It's cats again. Oh, crap. A cruel of threes. It's comedy. Okay, okay. As usual, we may disagree with things we've already said because we are human beings. It's just shift and change, much like the horny energies of an in-north sketch theater group. It's marvelous to watch you think. And friends don't let friends become theater critics. Yeah, no. Yeah, why not? Sorry, lately, every time I say that I'm always on the cusp of falling into a whole monologue about recent rages. I guess we're going to skate past that. - Let's dodge that and keep on moving. - Keep on trying. (upbeat music) ♪ A church house in house ♪ ♪ School house out house ♪ ♪ On how I don't mind train ♪ ♪ The people keep a sense of claim ♪ ♪ They call it nutmush ♪ ♪ Oh, nutmush ♪ ♪ I call it nutmush ♪