“I’ve Never Said This!” Why The Elites Want PBD to Rule Iran│Patrick Bet-David x Jack Neel

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For the boy who watched bombs fall on the people of Tehran, who calls his mother, "Mamaan," in regard to the Iran war, which country is the eagle and which country is the crow? What a great question, which country is the eagle, which country is the crow? Maybe let's ask which country is the instigator, right? And I'm not a guy that, when I make this comment, it's going to sound weird of me saying this. You have three countries involved here, you have Iran, US and Israel, right? Of the three countries, the one that has the highest priority of making sure IRGC is no longer around us who, Israel, not us, why? Those are Middle East, region, all of that. So we rely on their intel to tell us on what's going on with Iran. And so that intel, when we get, could be good, bad, ugly, could be whatever they want it to be, right? So that's a very interesting dynamic. Now, the US will say we're allies, which is great. And Iran, I lived there for a long time, living with Hezbollah's, a lot of people are trying to say, oh my God, Hezbollah is not that bad, Hamas, you know, Houthis, you know, these guys, you know, they're not as bad as people think it is, they're just, you know, they're reacting. They're like our military, they're like our Navy seal, they're like our, our, our diss. And it's fine that that's the argument that they're making. But IRGC is willing to kill their own people and they've done that many times. It's nothing new when we live there was the same thing as well. So in this situation, I don't know if I would put, of course, we are the leader of the free world. US has always let everybody. When people say what country they want to go live in, they talk about America, the greatest country, the greatest system, we have the longest line of people knocking on the door to want to come here. And that's not changed. No one wakes up in the morning saying, let me go live the Iranian dream, nobody wakes up in the morning saying, let me go live the, you know, the Middle Eastern dream. Maybe UAE, they've done a good job, maybe cutter, maybe Saudi, maybe they've been able to attract Ronaldo and soccer and they're kind of wanting to be a little bit more Western, not fully, not fully, but they want to make it safe for you and I to go there and enjoy soccer game or some kind of an event. But this is a very complicated scenario that we have today. So now that Trump was trying to do the deal with them, I don't know if you saw the bomb in yesterday, the missiles yesterday, a couple hundred missiles. It's pretty nasty. The president just tweeted right now saying they are planning on taking over Carg Island. And if they take over Carg Island and control Iran's oil and then they're telling us that Iran is reaching us and let's do a deal, please stop bombing us as I'm not doing the deal. I'm not going to stop them until you sign the deal. It's a very nasty situation. So in that analogy, we're still the ego. You know, we are the ones that's up there and they're poking behind closed doors, trying to get a little bit of our attention. But there's another proxy that's involved and that's Israel because they want Iran's higher GC2 fall probably more than America does. Why? You're a neighbor. You're right next to them. You live close to them. They can't stand you. Their entire MO is to eliminate you. So whether you agree with Israel or not, whether you like them or not, whether you support them or not, if another country spent billions of dollars to create proxies to eliminate you and that's in their mission statement from early on, not the updated mission statement with their original mission statement, you're probably going to wake up every morning, want to find a way to change that regime because back in the days, again, this has been covered many times. Iran and Israel got along when the Shah was around. The Middle East wasn't chaotic as it is today. So what has changed from 1970s to today? What has changed from the 70s till today is Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard has had control since 1979. And all the chaos in the Middle East pretty much started after 1979. Now, can we say that we were involved in some dumb wars, 100%, do we spend trillions of dollars on some dumb wars that we didn't need to? Yes. Did the military industrial complex use some of the money to create war because, you know, they're going to be able to make money on the back end? Yes. Have we all followed that story? Yes. What happens to President wants to have a 10-year war with Iran? I'm convinced he wants to go in and get it done. Again, the verdict's still out. It's not over yet. But I don't think this is a man that wants to have a long war with Iran. You tweeted the day this war started for 47 years, Iranians have been waiting for this moment. The world will be a safer place. Nine days later, you tweeted, no one knows how this ends, no expert, no analysts, no politician. What happened in those nine days and based on what you know now, when would you suspect this war ends or what would be the factor that would actually allow it to end? So to kind of give you an idea on this situation that we have. So one is, you know, the President who has all the intel that's leading this, right, going to war with Iran. When I said 47 years, there are a few players because at the beginning, if you remember, the President said regime collapse and regime change, right? This was something we're not just going in there for nuclear. We're going in there for this. Okay. Now, the tone has changed for this recently. They're no longer talking about regime change or regime collapse. Why? Well, what do you need for this to happen? You need a leading voice and a candidate, right? You need somebody that we trust and others trust that, okay, hey, Iranian people, you have an example. Go get behind the sky. It's going to fall. It's going to be a better place. Iran hasn't had that. It's not like anybody's out there campaigning. So when I said 47 years, these guys have been in charge. Iran's been a shed show. It's been horrible. You know, it'd be great for the Iranian people to be free. My position hasn't changed, by the way. I interviewed the founder of Islamic Revolutionary Guard. I had him right here in the building next to when he walked in here. It was a little bit worried on why am I here? And he was the co-founder with Khomeini when they started Islamic Revolutionary Guard. Khomeini would do the recording. He would be the first voice. Imagine you're speaking Khomeini. I'm the one that would say the next person you're about to hear is the Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khomeini, right? And you would go into it. This guy is why I brought into interview. And I said, all this stuff that happened during that time, the chaos. You supported this. He says, yeah, I want your, your the Kofa, I am. What happened? You know, all these things that said was, well, I thought it was going to be noble. I thought it was going to be this. It ended up being very bad. So we have to identify that IRGC is a not a net positive to the world. Now you, some people will debate this. You can't change by mine on this. I'm dead set on this here. Iran's a better country without being ran by these guys. The world is a safer place without being ran by these guys. Then you have the president who's being fed intel by who? Those who are non interventionist and they're saying, what, let's not intervene. JD Vance, maybe Tulsi, maybe some of those guys. It says a waste of work. Don't do it. Maybe Charlie Kirk put them in here, right? Don't do this. Then he's got the other people that are saying, we have the intel. We're ready to go do it, right? We're going to be, it's going to be like Venezuela. We go in. We're out. Well, one thing we know for a fact, this is not Venezuela. It's a very different situation that they have. So he then has to make the final decision of which side he goes on who he listens to. He built a team of rivals. He doesn't have a team that everybody agrees with each other. He's kind of like Lincoln. He built those guys there. So now he may go in and say, oh my god, these guys are more powerful than I thought. They have the back end. Then he has to pivot the word he was with me when I talked to him on the interview and I brought up Iran. He said, we have to be fluid. You don't know what's going to happen. Things could change, situations could change. And so I'm convinced whatever happened, Iran didn't have a main figurehead that we trusted to support. So we know this guy doesn't exist. A lot of people thought it was going to be res up out of you. We know if this guy doesn't exist, then we know regime change and collapse cannot happen. Because you need a voice. You need a face like Argentina was who have your delay. El Salvador was who, Bukheli, you know, you look at all these countries. There's somebody that you can get behind. If you don't have that, then it's like, if that's the case, I'm just going now and it's going to be about nuclear oil, straight of our moves. That's what we're doing. We're out. What do you think Trump was imagining it to already be res up? No, not at all. From the beginning, he says, I like him, he's a nice guy. But I don't know if he'd be the guy. So from the beginning, he was not very complimentary of res up out of you 30 days before. or the U.S. and Israel bound to Ron. The times of Israel ran a piece. It said, "My Patrick that David is the leader of Ron needs." - Did you see this? - Mm-hmm. - It said, "Not the shawl's son, but you are actually the man who fits in this moment." - I'm sure this is mostly just noise, but have those ideas been entertained by any serious players in your life? - Entertain meaning brought up to me? Oh, absolutely. We had extensive conversation about this last, I've never talked about this. We had extensive conversation about this last July, when we were in the Hamptons, I got calls saying, "Do you have any interest?" And then we had some major money guys that came to me and said, "Do you have any interest "of wanting to do this in the States?" Here. So we talked about it probably for two or three months, and then at the end of the day, I said, "It's just not a job I want to do right now." But this happened probably from July of last year till October, and we made the decision we're not gonna be doing this. - Imagine setting your makeup, then forgetting, it's even theirs. Meet new grippy setting mist from Maybelline, New York. Gel to mist technology locks in your look for up to 24 hours, with flexible all-day comfy grip. Just plump, dewy, hydrated skin that still feels like your skin. Try new grippy setting mist from Maybelline, New York. - Maybe it's Maybelline. - Gorgeous is the primary reason you wouldn't want to be the new leader of Iran. - I'm America first. This is the greatest country in the world for me. I mean, listen, would I be able to change the economy, be a glue between the States and Europe and open up the market where the 92 million people could start doing business creating jobs economy? Do I believe I would be able to do that? Yes, I have the confidence from the business mind and being a problem solver that, yeah, I think I could do that. Do I have any interest? No, can I play a role in help out? Sure, but as the guy to be the leader doing that, I got four kids, 14, 12, 10, four years old. Do I want to put them through this right now? No, I would have to be there. I would need to live there. This isn't like a Zoom president that you're gonna know. If you get that job, that job has to be your move in there. And we have the conversation as a family and it's not something we're interested in. To have that job, what do you have to be able to do? Number one, I was born there. I lived there 11 years. So it's not like I never lived there. I lived there 11 years and then we went to Germany and then we came here. Okay. You have to have a sense of having a message of selling the future, okay? You have to sell the vision of what could happen to you around one day. You have to have ideas that's gonna make it better for them. You have to have thick skin because everyone's gonna attack you. They're gonna use phrases as this guy is the puppetist. He's a disease that you have to be ready for. It's not like you're not gonna take it. Any of those things doesn't bother me. I feel qualified with it. But I have young kids. And for me, I would be away from them at a phase that they need me the most. And my dad is definitely not for it. And my dad is like, you know, he is a hundred percent up. But I'm the leader of the household. At the end of the day, this is my decision that I'm making. I'm not making it because of other people. I listen to everybody what they have to say. But we probably spend a good 80 hours on this decision. This is not like something we took lightly. But no, it's not for us to do. You were born in Tehran during the Iraq, Iran war. And when you saw the U.S. bomb the city you grew up in, were you shearing as an American or did you think about the boy that escaped that country? Till today, I have vivid memories of what happened when I lived in Iran and world was going on. I remember the whistling sounds. I remember all of it. Every single one of them. I remember every single time war happened, we escaped from Tehran. My dad took us to a city called Katage, which by the way, Katage, one of the bridges got hit recently. Then we went from Katage to a city called Bandar Palavi. And they have a different name for it today because back in the days, Bandar Palavi was shot. And they won't let you call a Bandar Palavi. I think it's called Anzali or something else, but it's a different name. So Bandar Palavi is north, it's right by this caspiancy. We went there and then they started bombing rashed. Rashed is like 20 minutes outside of Bandar Palavi. And eventually, we came back and my mother told my dad, we can't do this, we gotta leave. I am not celebrating for any of it whatsoever. This is because there is a young kid who didn't do anything wrong. That young kid could be a Muslim kid, a Christian kid, a Jewish kid, it could be any kid. He didn't do anything wrong. He just wants to play. He just wants to enjoy himself, he wants to be free. He doesn't want to be, he don't want to go play video games, be with his dad, be with his mom, be with his siblings, be in his classroom, hanging out. That's a part of war that is nasty. No, ideally, if we can figure out a way to get this thing done peacefully, that's the ideal way to do it. But then the other side is as a leader. You have to also realize war is very nasty, very ugly. You try to avoid it and you try not to fight. But every once in a while, just like as an individual, you have to defend for your family. Every once in a while, you have to defend what you think is right. And thousands of kids and Iranians being slaughtered innocent in the streets protesting, whether the number is 3000 or 30,000 or 100,000. If a regime is willing to kill its own people and we have the ability to do something about it, we ought to. Especially in a situation like this in Iran, where it's not two countries fighting each other, is they're killing their own kind. It's a devastating situation, but nobody is celebrating when they're getting bombed on. Your mother, when the initial regime change happened in the late '70s, she celebrated when Khmerni came to power. Is that right? She did, yeah. Did she later change her opinion on that? She did, of course. I was going to ask if that was a conflict between your mom and your dad over a long period of time, but I'm guessing that she changed that opinion. They still have a conflict. Those two cannot be in the same room together. This is the first time since 1989, they live half a mile away from each other. Everybody lives with next to each other right now. My mom, my dad, my sister, I brought everybody down here, but no, my mother grew up in a family that they were communists. So their Bible was the Karl Marx communist manifesto. They like Lenin, Stalin. They like those guys. They like Trotsky. They like anything to do with communists. On my dad's side, they were imperialists. They like the shot. They like Mohamedra Zashab Halavi. They like the father who was really, you know, some would say he floated with being a dictators. Father was a very, very strong man. The son Mohamedra Zashab Halavi was a little bit more gentle, a little bit more even kill, not the dad. That was tough, feared. So that was the conflict between the two. So my mother, the messaging was, look at communists. 'Cause Khomeini said, if you, you know, give me the power, I'm going to give you free rights. I'm going to give you free this. I'm going to give you free that. And that message resonates a lot. And then they came in and none of that happened. So then gradually she's like, wait a minute. What do we do here? And then eventually after that, you know, when my mother feared me turning 12 years old and staying any round to be in a military, she said, we got to get out of here. I went to my dad and we escaped, went to Germany and we eventually ended up here. To touch back on what you would be doing, if you had seriously considered doing the position and maybe were elected to be the leader of Iran, what would your first 24 hours look like as president of Iran? - Well, I mean, you know, within 24 hours, there's only so much you could do. It's going to be a three, six, 12 month type of thing that you got to do. Number one is showing strength to the world, showing diplomacy, talking to leaders, talking to others. So they kind of know what the ideas are. Presenting the ideas to the people, then you're presenting the ideas to the world and you're letting them know. We need to open up the sanctions need to be removed. So we can start doing business again. I think you run out on what their exact GDP is right now, but it's less than a half a trillion dollars. Give or take, if you pull up Iran's GDP, probably four to 500 billion dollars. And it's dropped even more now because of what's happened with the economy. I think one million people are directly unemployed, another million are indirectly unemployed. They're losing 500 million dollars a day of revenue just from the car guideline that's coming in. So that would be what? 15 billion a month is their losing. So imagine how much that is times 12, 180, 12 to 15 billion a month. That's 200 billion dollars a revenue, to 150 billion dollars of revenue you're losing. When I went to Germany the first time and I came to the States and I had algebra on seventh grade. And my teacher says, here's the formula. I don't speak English. And I would automatically undo the formula. I'm like, everybody's looking at me. Wow, look at the skinny, so good at algebra. I'm like, we did this two years ago in Iran. Fifth grade. Iranians are very, very smart people. Like the education was, you know, we are standards and expectation. Like if you meet many Iranians that actually went to school, they're very smart, they're very educated. They're not, you know, and it's tougher standards. You know, you're almost afraid of not scoring good in Iran 'cause what the teachers could do to you. They could hit you. They could do a lot of it. It's a very different standard they had back in the days. So what could you do with the resources that you have in Iran? With the people, if we opened up the markets, imagine they got sanctions of how many countries can do business with them. And you slowly open it up, take that half a trillion to a trillion to two trillion. Maybe two and a half trillion. You know, GDP per capita goes up, starts competing with others. All these guys of what Dubai and Qatar and some of these guys did is what Iran was doing in the 70s. When Iran went like this over 20 years, everybody was looking at Iran saying, "Man, what the hell happened with Iran?" I thought you guys needed British petroleum to take care of your oil. I thought you guys needed all these, you know, help from UK to come in and help you build stuff. We didn't think you guys were smart enough, like no, no, no, the shot was like, no, we're taking control. And we signed that contract in 1954, the 25 year oil consortium contract that was signed with all these different countries. And it was expiring in 1979 and the shot started talking very confidently when he's talking to BBC or, you know, Michael Wallace or all these guys, wait a minute, they're getting too confident. And then one of the interviews he said, he thinks he's going to be as strong as UK within the next five to 10 years. He had a smart kind of space and they're like, yeah, we don't want you to have that kind of power yet. And then the revolution happened. Let me give you an idea. So I grow my businesses and I used to get hate internally from the insurance industry. When I was small, I didn't get a lot of hate. Guys that were bigger than me would say things like, all you're doing great or you're doing this, right? And I'm sure when you had a hundred thousand subscribers, everybody's like, oh, look at him. He's a nice guy. I don't know what he's doing. I don't know how big he's going to get. Now two, three, four million, you blew up. You blowing up a lot. So what do some people say about you when they criticize you? Oh, you know, they may say he got lucky. You know, he's probably buying views. He's probably paying the guests. You've never offered money to me when you're doing the interviews. I just say, yes, you come down. I think this is our second one that we've done. And you booked a lot of different people. You've done very good interviews. Okay. But no matter what, you think you're getting hate right now, go to 10 million, see what happens. Then I have some wealth. See what happens. This morning, he had a meeting with a lawyer, one of the most powerful lawyers in America. We had breakfast together, seven o'clock this morning. And we're sitting there and we're going through all the stuff that we're doing. We need to do this. We need to do this. We need to do this. He says, if you think you guys are being targeted right now, wait till three to five years. Then wait for 10 years. You need to be ready for it. It's going to get very nasty. I'm going to get targeted. Well, under the shot, Iran went from, yeah, yeah, we'll buy oil from you out of this count. Great. We need to do this. And then all of a sudden, slowly, he's buying military weapons are getting stronger. Iran's getting stronger. Economies getting stronger. A woman cannot vote marriage age went from nine to 12 to 15 and women can now go to school and get a degree. We didn't have this in Iran before. What is this guy doing over there? And in next thing, you know, when Churchill and different presidents, Roosevelt want to have a meeting, they're meeting in Iran. Why are you guys meeting in Iran? We'll be kind of trust going to meeting. Can you imagine today, if the president's meeting with a few other guys, they said, let's go meet in Iran. That won't happen today. In the seventies, each to happen to sixties, each to happen to fifties. So if that were to be opened up, I think Iran would have the potential to get bigger than any of the other golf states within, I would say three to five years, definitely 10 years. Bigger than any of the golf states, it would open up. We would put big concerts, shows, you know, the mountains, I don't know if you've ever gone to see the mountains in Iran, the types of mountains there. If you type in Iran, mountain skiing, you won't think that's Iran. You're going to say, that's the Alps. You're going to say, that's, you know, Whistler, you're going to say, that's, you know, Aspen. No, it's Iran. Iran's got it all. Iran's situated in a very beautiful place, but we would make some incredible partnerships with Iran. It would open up free market in ways we've never seen it before. I want to ask you about that, actually, on Iran, do you have family still there? I have one first cousin and he lives in Iran. Did he go to school under the new regime? He did. Yes, he was born. When I left, he was six months old. So I left when I was 10 and a half. So he's going to be today, what, 37 years old, 38 years old. Yeah, I was researching school textbooks, just kind of comparing how different countries present information. And I saw something along the lines of, like, in Iranian schools. They write that America is like, big Satan or something. It's like some, uh, verbal or wordage like that wasn't like that before 79, by the way. Right. We were allies. When you think about, like, the night the bombs hit February 28th, uh, did you call your mother that day? Did you call your cousin that day? What was kind of like your close family thinking about the situation? I think what it was for everybody in our family is this going to be the moment where Iran is going to be free that we can go back and visit and go, walk and show the family, the places we grew up in. That's what everybody was thinking about. It was literally that simple. It was the dream because in 47 years, this is the closest it's ever gotten. It's never gotten closer than this since Khomeini took over, since the IRGC took over. It's never been closer than this. So to us, it was that level of excitement and enthusiasm. There's a reason why Iranians, Venezuelans and Cubans get along. History get along because we all loved the country we were born in and grew up in. And we cannot stand what the new regime did to that country. So you could be a Democrat, Republican or whatever it could be politically. But generally, if you're from those three countries and you would like to be able to take your family back, people are united. You could be an Obama person or a Trump person, hey, I want to see Iran be free. Those IRGC people are horrible. Man, let's hope something happens, right? So that's the part with this where it was more of a dream that maybe we can go back to the country where we were born in. When you think about why this war is happening, like all the incentives around it, many major Middle East conflicts have had bigger powers pulling strings. You said a moment ago that this war was between Iran, the US and Israel. Do you think Iran is a proxy war or other countries? Are other countries involved in how important are they as players? Such as who? Maybe China, Russia. The way to look at this is who this war is hurt the most and who's benefited from it the most. So proxy China, I don't think because they've taken a hit with the oil that they need. But I don't think it's helped China. Russia, I don't know because Russia relied on the types of drones that Iran would make. So now rather than making the drones, they needed themselves and maybe that supply is not going as fast as it was going before because there's a massive disruption with workforce. Aren't they providing intel to Iran though? Russia was? Yeah, of course they are. But you have to also realize, Russia is at war with Ukraine as well and Ukraine is not slowing down. So Ukraine has seen this great opportunity to capitalize and be like, okay, how much you think Ukraine cares about Iran? Not at all. So Ukraine's seeing that, hey, Russia has got a relationship with Iran. They're a little bit distracted. Keep attacking them. Keep attacking them. Keep attacking them. Zelensky's not getting negotiating us and, yeah, let's do ceasefire. So who's winning? Who's not EU? You think NATO, let's just say NATO and the EU, you think they want this war? They don't want this war. Why? Maybe the most strongest military, they're not known for military, it's been a while. Yeah, France has got a lot of nuclear weapons. Yeah, some of these countries have a lot of weapons, but. Gel to mist technology locks in your look for up to 24 hours, with flexible all day come to the grip. Maybe it's Maybelline. They don't want this thing to happen, at all whatsoever, and they got exposed because when the president asked for help, some of these places said, no, we're not helping. Or so, you're part, you're willing to take our money that we're given to you, but now when we need help, you don't, you out. So it's actually a very good thing to see who has our back and who doesn't have it. Sometimes in life, you got to do certain things like this to see who's going to fight and who's not. But let you see, you got seven friends and three of them are new friends that came into the crew. And we're going clubbing, bad analogy, but just kind of stay with me here. And you want to know if those three guys are really going to defend you or not. You go to a bar, say fight breaks out, and everybody goes outside and you go outside. You see up the three, two of them ran away, one of them stayed there and he fought. Well, now you know who has your back. It was very easy. Took one fight for you to find out who was and who was not and you go ask the other guys, what happened to you guys? Oh, we saw cops and we ran away. Well, then you're never going to be on the inside circle. I can see you at the club, but you ain't coming to my house afterwards. You're an outsider. Now I learn. So you need a crisis to have people to be exposed. I thought a lot of people from NATO were exposed. So if we go to China, Russia, Gulf states, you think Gulf states want this Gulf states don't have strong military. They don't spend a lot of money on military. You think UAE has a military cutter? These guys don't have strong military. They're not, you know, Israel's known for having a great air force and having a great intelligence agency. You know, they brag about the military. They haven't even though, you know, nobody, well, we don't know if Israel has nuclear weapons. Everybody knows Israel's got nuclear weapons, you know, they can say we don't need to report it. No, I think there are a lot of people to watch on the proxy side. No, I think even when the president visited China, one of the main conversations was, hey, let us know what we can help to finish this war. What is he saying? Let us know what we can do to finish this war. Why? China doesn't want this war. They don't want this to be continuing. China wants attention on different places, not there. So, do you think Xi Jinping has the power to end the war? No, not at all. Not at all. Everything starts and stops with Trump. Everything starts and stops with Trump and everybody else has influence. Like think about what it takes to be a leader of a country. To take a country with five million people and go be one that leads to five 4.9999 million. How hard of a job is it to get? Do you think that one got lucky? So, then go take another one of 92 million a year to one leader. How did that happen? Go to another place, India. 1.4, 1.5 billion. How did you do it? 1.2 billion, China. How did you do it? Pakistan? How did you do it? These are all very shrewd, strategic, you know, maneuvering, knowing how to handle the shots, the chaos, the criticism. Some of them were placed, some of them were financed, some of them were selected, some of them were positioned. But regardless, they got to the top somehow some way. How did they do it? So these are all players and they all think very highly of themselves. And they don't play the different games because they all have read the same books. They've all read prints. Macaveli, they've all read 40 laws of power, they've all read the five rings, they've all read. They know all of these things. They all studied Mussolini, they all studied, you know, they're the nasty leaders, the good leaders, the general patterns, the Napoleon's, the Hitler's, they have to read these things to know what happened with the enemy. A part of it is not reading it, just say, I want to be inspired to be like, it's like, no, I got to read mine. Come. So I know how you are, if you're hit, and I got to know how to deal with you, right? So they've all read the letters of KGB, they've all read the letters of, you know, previous directors of Mossad, you're dealing with all of those 200 people in a room. But there's one Trump. And there's one, there's one Trump. And that guy, they're not used to a guy that came from the business world who did deals, who's been on media for 15 years, whose hat controversy is entire life. And he's maneuvered and he's danced and he's gone. These other people don't have that kind of media experience that he has. Why do they not have that kind of media experience? You know why Trump has more media experience than any of these other leaders? One reason, why do you think your smart guy? Why do you think Trump has more media experience than these other guys? It's such an easy answer, freedom of speech, right? Okay. So what does freedom of speech allow us to do? You get to ask me pointed questions. Some people may say you've asked some direct questions today. Great. Guess what? You have the right to do it. It's America. Now I can say, screw you and I walk off, like kind of what happened a few days ago with what do you call it? The President and Kristen Welker on Meet the Press. But you're being respectful. I'm just giving you an example. I'm not saying I'm doing that. So, but in all these other countries, guess what they don't have? Freedom of speech, right? So guess what those leaders don't learn? Criticism is right. Public humiliation. You know what a special gift that is to learn on how to handle public hum--that's one of the greatest gifts you'll have, by the way. People don't realize this. Like, when they lost yesterday, the spurs lost, they were up 29 points. It's the most embarrassing loss in the history of basketball ever. Yes, did it happen. What's the benefit there? Everybody else will be rich as a loser. I cannot believe he did this. What a horrible coach. This is the worst team that they don't have backbone. They don't have this. They don't have that. You can say, all you want. He went to sleep last night, tossing and turning. And all his mind thought about how the hell you're going to fix this. And that's a gift. And Trump's had that since his 30s. And these other world leaders don't know how to handle a guy like that. These other leaders are like, they don't want to talk to their press. He talks to his press every single flip and day. So I think, you know, the leader of the free world is Trump. All these other guys are figuring it out. The president's had some very bad setbacks this year that was publicly humiliating when the Supreme Court didn't rule in his favor for tariffs. When the Savak that was coming out, Congress voted for it, Senate 48 to 50, four Republicans voted against it. That was one of the biggest legislations he's had. He's had some public losses. But, um, tariff was one of the biggest controls he had against other countries to say if you don't do this, I'm going to put a tariff on. He can't use that card anymore. Because imagine now he says it to another world leader. What is that guy going to do? He's going to have a smirk on his face. Imagine how annoying that smirk is to Trump. So think about it. Hey, hey, uh, you know, if you do this, I want to put 25% and she's going to smile. No, you're not. So he's in a very, his typical way is to be able to negotiate like that. He's missing that right now. So he's got to sit there with his guys and say, Hey, man, I try to use these six cards. I can't use these six cards. I try to use my number one card of tariffs. I can't use that anymore. More than 10%. Guys, we need some more cards here. I need to find some more cards. That's what he's in, you know, in a pickle right now with. You yourself have had Trump on the podcast. I you've had Benjamin Netanyahu on as well as someone who studies the art of negotiation, power dynamics, leverage. Maybe entertain this for me. If you were Donald Trump and you wanted out of this war, what would you do? Well, he can end this war today if he wanted to, but it would be a bad look if he just ended it today and get nothing out of it. When you're selling a company, you'll sit there and say we have 20 things that we're trying to negotiate. Okay. Let's just pick 10 things here. You're the buyer. I'm the seller. Okay. As the buyer of my company, on your list, you're going to say number eight's the most important to you. Number two is the most important to you. Number four is the most important to you. In that specific order is one, two, three. So you may say, yeah, let's just say number one is price, but number eight is a non-compete. And you want it to be a five year. I'm just, you know, bullshit in here, but let's just, we got a five year non-compete. And you're like, price is actually relevant to me. Okay. I don't want you to be able to compete into space for five years. That's priority for me. All right. What else? My two is how we structure the price. I don't mind if the price is $400 million, but I don't want to pay you more than 50% of it up front. So I want to pay you 50% up front. And the other 50% I want you to have equity in my company. I'm Yahu I'm buying you. I'm XYZ. I'm buying you. I'll give you 50% that $400 million and shares on my company that you cancel for two years. The other 50% I'll give you cash. So here's 20. So the structure matters to me the most, right? And then maybe I want you to stay on as a CEO for two more years. Maybe I don't care about that. Then for me, the seller, I may sit there and say price is my number one. Okay. I may say to you that when I leave, I want a one year now compete. And then whatever we can add another thing that we have here that I can live in Florida and I don't have to be in Texas. And maybe, you know, I'm worried that you want me to stay in Texas. You can't tell me what are your top three. I'm not going to tell you what am I top three when we're negotiating. You're tracking with me, right? So in this case, I don't know what Trump's top three is. You lead with you want it all. But you know, you're not going to get it all, but you know what your top three is. So what are Trump's top three? Do you think regime change and regime collapse was in his top three? I don't think so. Do I think the new clear was in his top three because he wanted to do a better deal than Obama? I think so. Do I think Carl Island was maybe one of them because he talked about this in 1987, 1985? I think so. So then what's Iran's top three? Iran's top three is who the hell are you to tell me I can have no clear? Number two, allow me to take a fee on the oil that comes through so I can generate some income because I wasn't doing it before. Now allow me to take that income. Okay, great. My number three could be remove the sanctions and I want you to first remove sanctions, then remove this, then do this and then I'll negotiate with nuclear for you. Right. I don't know what is in Trump's might. If Trump wanted to end the war right now, it's done. But what is going to get out of it? Nothing if it ends today. You know, so on the left, the midterms around the corner, what are they going to say? If he pulls out of the war, let's just say you're a democratic strategist for the opposing side. He stops the war. How do you criticize him? He continues the war. He gets the nuclear deal. He doesn't get the nuclear deal. No matter what he does, you're going to criticize him. So if the war continues, he's going to say, look at this guy. Another long war. If he stops and negotiate, he said, look what he coward he is. He couldn't even negotiate. He already quit. He already gave up. He has to make a decision which one he wanted. And I'm convinced Trump knew going in what his top three were and maybe the rest of us don't know. Maybe the only person that knew was him. You said that this war benefits Israel as well. I want to ask if you were Benjamin Netanyahu, perhaps, and you wanted to pull Trump deeper into this war. How would you go about doing it? He'd kill under people you're negotiating with. Very easy. I just say you and I have been talking for six weeks and we're making progress on the deal. Israel finds out. I don't want the deal to be done because my number one, what is what is Israel's number one? You think Israel's number one is nuclear or regime change? Regime collapse. What do you think's number one? I'm not sure of those two. I think for Israel's number one is regime change and regime collapse. Why? Break up. Pakistan has a lot of nuclear. How come they're not worried? Russia has a lot of nuclear. Turkey is strongest. So Israel's number one, I believe, is regime change and regime collapse. So guess what? If your number one is regime collapse and regime change, guess what you're not for? Any deal. So if I do deal with you for, we're like, Hey, you know, let's do this. Hey, but okay, great. Kill him. Now who do I talk to? I got to go to the next and kill those two as well. And now who do I talk to? I start a new conversation with him. Kill him as well. Hey, we're about to do kill him as well. Just bomb to continue. Oh, I'm so sorry. Oh, I'm so sorry. I won't do it again. Trump, I won't do it again, BB. I'm not gonna, my apology. You know what, the president and I have spoken were good are apologies. We will stop the attack. Two days later, hit Lebanon again. This is the part where there's a conflict right now between the two. And I'm sure there's a little bit of posturing and TV, gymnastics, you know, whatever you want to call it that they're doing theatrics on us watching this to say, oh yeah, they're fighting to hate each other. I don't, I don't know if they hate each other, but I do think if Israel's motives are regime change and regime collapse first, they will do anything and everything to prevent from a deal. Would you guess if this war continues, maybe into 2027, or at least into November of this year, could we see like the collapse of the US dollar or maybe like a major market crash? I don't know, I don't know with the collapse of the US dollar because the world is relying on the US dollar. Not just the US. So a lot of times the benefit about one of the reasons why I love giving equity to the people that work in a company with me is because I officially, the moment I give you equity, we share pressure. Let's just say your YouTube channel is with us and we're 50/50. Guess what I wake up thinking about to grow your YouTube channel 'cause I'm equity with you, right? Okay, so how much equity is there with the US dollar around the world? Japan's got 1.4 trillion dollars of debt. Do you think they want the dollar to collapse? No, China's got 1 trillion, 40 billion. I don't know what the exact number is today. Do you think they wanted to collapse? No, you got all these other people that are relying with us export import. No, you think India wants to collapse? No, I think the bigger power players will directly be impacted if the dollar is affected by it. If anything happens to your economy wise, it's a little bit tricky right now what we are because with a new guy that went into a place Jerome Powell, a wash with the interest rates inflation going up I think is at 4.2 today and 60% of it is tied to diesel and gasoline. So if the war goes away that could dip down and be at a better place. If it continues it's gonna stay up there. And then if it stays up there midterms around the corner. So he is being pressured from the top to lower the interest rates and they want to bring it down to 1%. Some are saying maybe he needs to increase the interest rate. So those things that we're going through it's gonna be a little bit chaotic. The biggest thing that happened as well here is short term is we're probably gonna have a handful of trillionaires in the next two to three years. SpaceX is gonna be at $1.71 trillion. IPO that they'll do. Elon's network's gonna be around $9.50 to $1.1 trillion. I have a feeling the Nvidia guy Jensen Wang is gonna be a trillionaire problem in the next two to three years. We've got a few people that are gonna follow. And so wealth disparity. You know the rich get richer poor get poor. It's gonna go so much wider than ever before. So then what happens then? I don't know. We have to be ready for it because the way language learning models changed things overnight, it was sudden. It was like boom, go, go compound it into five 10 years. What is that gonna look like? Everyone speculating, you know, Elon is saying coding is gonna go away in one year. He said that in an interview on a podcast, I think three days ago, four days ago, coding's gonna be gone. Well, what cloud is doing? But I'm less concerned about the economy because there's so many people involved in equities that they're gonna do whatever they can to protect that as well as a US dollar. For me, it's the advancement of technology and AI and how we're gonna handle that in three, five, 10 years because say Democrats win the election in 2028. They're gonna want to regulate AI. They're gonna want to come in and say, "Hey, 50% of Nvidia's ours, 50% of Anthropic's ours, 50% of Open AI's ours." That's what they're pitching right now, right? How you navigate through it and how the midterms are gonna be with house and senate, we're entering a very tricky situation here next two years. Or ask you, later in the interview, how AI is changing, how you do business, and what you're seeing. But a question I thought was interesting for you. It sounds simple, but I think you'll like it. Who do you think would win in a game of chess? Trump or BB? Actual game of chess? Like a real big game of chess, now in a life in a war. That's gonna be BB. It's not even a question. BB would win, why? Because how often do you hear the president recommend books? If I ask you right now, tell me one book the president's ever recommended. His own? His own? Any other books? No. He's not like, "I remember when I read this book, "the cameraman is not that guy." But BB is the guy that'll recommend 200 books on history. So what does that mean? Do I think BB's sat there and for hours played chess and studied how to do it and all that? I do think that. Middle Eastern's will play games like backgammon and chess. Americans, it's more golf. So if the two of them golf, Trump's gonna destroy him when it comes on to golf. But chess, backgammon's a, you know, we played that in Middle East heavily. Most Middle Eastern kids know how to play backgammon. And it's a very different, so specific to chess, I think BB wins. Golf, Trump wins, but chess, BB wins. And I guess if we talked about chess as an analogy for just strategy in general, you would likely say Trump. Not necessarily, I would say both of them. The only difference is, okay, let me ask you a different question. Who's a better leader in conflict resolution? Elon Musk and Marco Rubio. Naturally, we would be inclined to answer who? Elon, right. Naturally, right? Why though? Just me personally, I've seen Elon deal with more conflict. Or at least appear to deal with more conflict. Okay, great. So, you know, but he also has access to what? Money and he can hire some very brilliant people. Smart people, right? So in the case of BB versus Trump, the difference is what? Trump has access to resources, BB does not. Like what? Everything. Everybody wants to do business with America. What is the most hated leader in the world today? The number one hated leader, I think he's number one or number two. Number one is Musk, who's the number two hated leader in the world today? It's BB. And those are the two names that compete. So in politics, it's BB. What happens if you're the most hated person in the world? How many phone calls can you make to get deals done? You can't. So what do you not have? I have more cars than you. You can read 10,000 books. I've read two books, but I've been in rooms and I've negotiated and I've built relationships with others more than you. They hate you. They like me. It doesn't matter how many books you read. I'm gonna out to you because I shook hands and I met these people. And they like me. They don't like you. So, you know, behind closed doors, a lot of these leaders like Trump. He's funny. You know, he's like you'll go to Democrats and you're gonna like me. You know, he knows how to kind of use his charm and charisma, right? Okay, great. You think he's read more books than BB? No. No, but Trump's got cards galore. Trump's a leverage card galore guy, who is not afraid of threatening you, telling you what he'll do to you after he tells you how much he likes you. You know what I like you a lot? You'll create you too, bro. Let me tell you, if you cross the line one more time, I'm going to kill you. That's his language. That's how he speaks. Most people don't speak that language. Like you ever see a guy think about right now when I tell you this, how quickly you will think about somebody. Who's the smoothest 20 year old you met that was incredible with the girls. What's his name? Just first name. Even go to high school. Who was the smoothest guy in high school with girls? Where like how the hell is he able to do this with girls? He's a guy named Ryan. Okay, Ryan, let's say Ryan. Do you think he was taught that or he was born that way? He's born that way. He's born that way. So think about that. So if you read every single book in the world, on power dynamics with women and flirting and all this other stuff, even if you did, you think you would ever get naturally as good as he is naturally? I would say yes, but if he read even one of the books, he'd probably outpace you. So he needs to read one book for every 50 books. The other guy has to read, right? So this to part where Trump was born this way. You know, if you go back and think about Trump at 12 years old, what do you think he was like? He listened to everything. Mommy and daddy said, "Oh no." You think he was a little bit mischievous? You think he was a little bit of a trouble maker? Yeah, so he's learned how to get out of things. And you know, he's been doing this for a long time. He hasn't just been learning how to do this last 10 years. It's like the story of Tiger versus Federer. You know, Tiger was systematically taught and built to be a great golfer by his father since he was 12 months old. 18 months old, he was given. He was taught how to hit the golf ball, right? Federer was not. He played every sport. He played badminton. He played this. He played that. And in all of a sudden, it's late. Typically, kids start tennis super early. He started late. And then all of a sudden, becomes the greatest pre-Nedal and all these other guys showing up before no back. He becomes the greatest tennis player all the time, naturally, right? You know, some of them is like, no, here's what you're going to do. I want to build you into being this. And the other guy is like, I'm dancing. I'm dancing. You know what? This is fun. So I think Trump dances, everybody else studies, Trump's dancing. You once said, quote, if parents can manipulate kids into believing Santa Claus exists, to the government, they're the parents, you're the kids, and they're following you and I. What do you think is the biggest lie being? told in 2026. How much value is there on selling fear? A ton. Fear can lead you to buying a product. Fear can lead me to taking a certain medicine or vitamin. Go into the hospital. Fear can make me vote a certain way. Fear can make me quit my job or not buy a house or get into the market or not get into the market. Rent, not get married, not have kids. Fear can prevent somebody from saying, "You know what? I'm going to hold off till I have kids because let's first get ourselves settled and then let's have some money and then let's have kids who convince you that's the way to do it." Fear can convince us to only have one kid or two kids and say, "Well, we just want to have two kids because we don't have time with each other. I'll never forget I talk to a guy named John Morris back in the days. He was a big UCLA school of Anderson and he was part of Vista. He was our chair." He said, "I said, "How many kids do you have?" He says, "Two." I said, "Why two?" He said, "One of the biggest mistakes of my life." I said, "Why is that?" He says, "Tell me what we do in our lives. At the moment we get good at it, we stop doing more of it." He says, "I learned how to be a good parent after two." He said, "I would have been a better parent for the three and the four. I should have had more kids. I should have had four." Talk to a guy named Dr. Taylor Marshall, who's got eight kids, traditional Catholic. I said, "What number seemed like a lot when you had eight kids?" He says, "Anything after three, you will never feel like you have more than three." I said, "Why?" He says, "Your fourth is going to be mature. He's independent. Your fifth, she's going to be mature independent." Sixth, seventh, it's kind of like whatever the three are, the other one already graduated and you go to the restaurant, he kind of does his own thing, goes to the bathroom, you don't have to walk with them, feeds himself, cleans himself, prepares himself, cleanses his mouth, you don't need to be, "Hey, clean your mouth." No, he's a certain age, you know how to do that, right? So fear, the relationship between fear, you know, and knowing what is real and what is not, that controls people for a long time. Last night we had, I'm writing a book right on fatherhood and last night I took the kids out, we went to dinner because we're going to be out this weekend. So I took the kids out, we went to dinner and we're talking about it. Me and the project manager were talking about different things with the books of all these notes here that I'm setting up and one of my sons, he starts telling a story of what got him to change two years ago and he says, "Well, I was a drifter. I was drifting in life. It was just kind of going. I wasn't serious or excited about anything in my life." And then he and I had a conversation to get in my home office and I sat him and I said, "Hey, what is it with you? I just feel like you're drifting." And so you're going to be like, "How I was 10 years is going to go by and all of a sudden you're 20 years old, you're going to be, you're not going to be happy with what you're doing right now." So I gave him a book called Outweeting the Devil by Napoleon Hill who wrote this book many years ago, I think it's translated, it's written by Sharon Lechter today and he reads the book and the book talks about how teachers use fear to control students, how the government uses fear to control students, how even pastors and priests use fear to control the congregation, how parents use fear, how everybody, and you just have to sit there and say, "Yeah, that doesn't scare me. No, that's not dangerous. That's just creativity. That's just imagination." So the sooner we have a better filtering process on that, the better we'll be. Some of the things are real, like, "Hey, you need to buy life insurance. Why? Preventative. If something happens, you're protected. You need homeowners insurance. Why? If a hurricane tornado happens, you're protected. You need health insurance. I'm healthy. I understand. If you've never seen health insurance bills, trust me. You need health insurance because you're protected." So preventative stuff we need to do. That's not fear selling. That's preventative, right? Do a state planning. Go set the stuff for your kids. Go do this. Go do that. But the other side, if you can read between the lines of fear, danger, and just kind of like someone giving you preventative advice, you won't be controlled by the masses. You won't be controlled by the media. You won't be controlled by the government. You won't be controlled by anybody. What do you fear at the moment? Probably what I fear at the moment has to do with the kids and the family because to me it's trying to find a way to keep them close long-term. You know, I watch a video the other day. I don't know who was who said it. It says, "Who are you jealous of?" And the guy said, "I'm jealous of anybody with young kids in the house." I'm jealous. It's something special about young kids in the house. It's priceless. You guys have kids yet or not yet. When you do, you guys are planning one day? Yes, no, maybe. Okay. Everyone tells you. It's incredible. It's incredible. So I fear not maximizing the times with them today while I'm building the business because my dream even when I was 23 years old was to build a business one day where the kids wanted to be close to mommy and daddy. It's kind of like the mindset, you know how Richard Branson said, "Teach your team everything so they can leave and be a competitor of yours but treat them so well so they don't." I want to teach my kids everything I have so they say, "I don't need daddy." But I want to treat them so well that they want to be with daddy for the rest of their lives, you know, for the rest of my life, you know, when we're with us. So it's probably that all the other stuff it's just like, you know, online commentary, "Hey, you did this, you did that." We're going to make a lot of mistakes. We're going to go through them. We're going to have to learn from it. You know, business deals, money, some incredible deals. We're making a lot of money. Some deals we don't. That's going to happen. Health, you got to take care of your health as you're getting older becomes a bigger issue. Nothing major outside of that. When do you think someone should be having kids? When do I think somebody should be having kids? When you find the right person to have kids with, the sooner I would have found the person that have kids, what I would have had kids with that person that day. Meaning, married, proper, get to known, you know, go through the process. But the moment I know this is my wife and she has qualities to be a mother. We're having kids. We're having kids because, you know, the thought about, "Let's wait till we have money. Let's wait till we have this. Let's wait till we have that." That was never a thing 100 years ago. That was never a thing 50 years ago. That's a thing today that everybody's saying because everything today is more about, "Hey, let's enjoy our time. What about us? What about my body? What about this? And what about that?" No, if you got the right partner that you guys are sharing similar values with and you're a worker, like you're naturally a provider. I don't know if you make 40 grand of your right now. But if you're a worker and you're about finding ways to improve yourself, learn, study, your 40 is going to go higher. I'm not worried about how much money you're making right now. But it's who I build my family with. And then the other part is I got to make sure I'm also in a better state where my selfish score has decreased. I don't think anybody with a 90 plus selfish score should have kids. And what does that mean? People that are just all about them. Don't worry about having kids yet. Good score is 65% about you, 35% about other people. Because then you're about contributing. You're about developing others. You still have your aspirations. 65% selfish is a very good score. But I would say those two things. Patrick, I'm going to give you the name of someone and you just give me one more to describe them. Go for it. Daniel Zarian. Andrew Zoran Mandali. Talented. Adam Sausnik. More clear. More clear. He's more clear in life of what he wants to do today than two years ago, five years ago. He used to be all over the place. Ayatollah. Much Taba. Hamini. Broken. Ayatollah Ali Hamiri. Bruto. Reza Palafi. sweetheart. Donald Trump. Leader. BB Netanyahu. One word for BB. You call somebody that doesn't show you all his hands and he kind of plays along but deep down inside he's got other motives. Two plus it is and that will be the word. Somebody like that. Because yeah, you know what he wants to do. You see his motives but he kind of is like, well, no, you know, no, we're good with this, we're good, we're good with that. And then he goes and continues to do what he wants to do. But in front of camera, he's very good, very polished. Polish will be one of them with him. Shapiro. Mechanical. Tucker. He's gonna do whatever he wants to do. Tuckers gonna do whatever he wants to do. Tuckers is a, you know, he's like the kid that knows how to get on to your skin and the moment he finds out how to get on to your skin, he will not stop. He will not stop. He's mischievous. He's a child like Crone Man, who is very entertaining, but, and I'm not even talking about the whole stuff where as you, you know, taking money from Cutter and all because we had a few ourselves as well, set that part aside, personality wise, very entertaining, very mischievous, and yeah, that's what I would say. Candice, extremely talented, Charlie Kirk, missed, Charlie Kirk was a glue, Charlie Kirk was a unifier, Charlie Kirk was above everybody, Charlie Kirk was, you know, it's as if he came from a couple hundred years ago, can't describe that guy, that guy was an anomaly. He was one of a kind. I can give you 51 words for that guy, came from a couple hundred years ago. Yeah, he's different, he's different, he's a pastor, he's a fighter, he's a general, he's a talented TV personality, incredible debater communicator, well read, well educated, love the country, patriot, he's very very, he did the job of nine different people, it's very hard to have somebody like that, very, very hard to have somebody to replace Charlie, you need nine people and each of them better be very good at what they do. So it's not like nine people at six and above, it's nine people at eight or above, it's not easy, it's not easy to find somebody like that, yeah, he was, he was very unique. Erica Kirk, Erica Kirk normally I'm asking these questions with one word, so this is, this is good when it's on me this time, Erica Kirk misaligned and let me unpack that so people don't read into it, misaligned, I don't think she needs to be the CEO of the company right now, I think she needs to step aside for two years and then maybe two years later come back and do it, timing was bad and we saw the video, I understand all the videos, I've had conversations with them, I've spoken about this publicly, so you know, I think that misalignment put a lot of pressure on her to perform and she is never ever going to be the face of TPUSA, the way Charlie was the face of TPUSA, because a brand, you have to also realize that the challenge you're having right now is about sex, TPUSA was for young men and women, but it was young men, so TPUSA was about 90% young men and a woman would talk because there's great single men out there that are good young men with the right values. Now those young men, young men don't look up to and Erica Kirk, young men need a man to look up to, so she's got a tough job of trying to, but I think it's misaligned. Baron Trump, we'll see, he's funny, he's like his dad and retaining, funny as hell, whitty, shit talker, shit talker, he is, he's good, he's really good, by the way, when he gets comfortable to get in front of the camera, the world's going to be enamored by him, they'll hate him, they'll love him, but they're going to be enamored by him. He's very, they haven't unleashed him yet, mom is still holding them back, but when mom is ready, it'll be, yeah, I'm sure when you sit with him, you're going to really enjoy it. That's definitely one I've wanted to speak with for a long time, I'm sure you have as well. Yeah, we had, then we've spent some time together, he's a, he's a one of a kind. Coffeezilla, I like him a lot, I think he's talented, very talented, I've done two interviews with him, one four, five years ago, one recently with him, I think he's got a good heart. I think he thinks he's doing the right thing and he is, he tries to balance the talent that he has of being animated while trying to do his work for the young, for the smaller person. So I think he's got the right intention, super talented guy, super talented guy. Yeah, I mean, journalistically speaking, super talented guy, yeah, Christopher Alexander Delgado. So he is, I mean, obviously you're accused of stealing 328 million dollars, who have a billion dollars, there's many words for some would say criminal, liar, there's a lot of words you can put for that guy, we took advantage of a lot of people on AI, a big fear for many people my age is that AI is about to take all of our jobs, but instead of asking you whether or not that's going to happen, I just kind of want to know how are you using AI to scale your companies? How do you, how much do you use AI for interviews today? Massive amount, really, tell me three ways. It's mainly just the research process of got I like sifting through transcripts of like every thing people have done, yeah, okay. And then when you're choosing your questions, how much of that do you use to choose what questions to ask? You put it in there and say, well, based on this information that I have, how would you structure the question? What is the sequence of topics I should go to? I usually use it to determine maybe what the highest tan topic is to talk about right now. Got it. So with what you're doing today, how duplicatable are you that another person could go from zero to three million subs like you is what you're doing duplicatable? That's a so. So you think another person can learn to do what you're doing right now? Yeah. Okay. So why aren't they? It sucks. Tell me why. It's to work all the time and what your schedule look like. I kind of just work all the time and then her and I hang out together. So is it 60 hours a week? Are you working 80 hours a week? Is it 40 hours a week? Is it two interviews a week, three interviews a week? That's at least at least 60 hours, maybe 60 AD and then two podcasts a week on average, sometimes one. Yeah. So from what you're doing, what part of it is you? What part of it is AI? And what part of it is, you know, the amount of work you think you put into it? As AI has gotten better, it's just allowed me to do more. Like I still work the same number of hours, it's just we're more capable. Like I don't have to hire a person to do certain things, you know. So for someone like you as a content creator, does it make you think that if you didn't have AI, you would have hired to, you would have had to hire three additional people. Let's just say at 60,000 dollars a year, 100 percent would have been a cost of 180. Okay. So you think about it that way. Yeah. So is the question how it's going to impact the next generation like, you know, Gen Z's? Is that what you're asking about AI? I don't know. I don't know. I mean, the opinions are that David Sacks showed a report saying we're hiring engineers more than ever before. So we're actually hiring engineers, but that's a report today. Ilana is saying within a year, we're not going to need coders. That's what Ilana is saying. Clawed came up themselves with, you know, Anthropic came up with the stuff that they're doing to show, you know, what is doing for coders. So is that going to replace coders? Maybe. Maybe it is. How do you use it right now? We use it in every aspect of our business. We use it for Manec. We use it for higher metrics. We use it for calibration. We use it for interviewing people. We use it for. Do you personally use it a lot or not really? Let me personally myself. My team does. Right. Yeah, my team does. If you're asking, like if I use Chad Gbt or Grock, I do. But not if I get the research like this right here, what I wrote with the book, these are notes for Fatherhood book. Okay, this is me. This has nothing to do with AI, but I'll take the notes and I'll come up with it now. If there's a page here that is research with stats, okay, like this page right here. In 2023, US had 9.8 million dollars of one pair of households. Of those 7.3, our mothers, 2.5, our fathers. This is AI. So AI can spit out stats for me like this. Before, I would need to go individually and be a bit of a finder. What are the most important stats to get them involved? But we use it immensely. So three years ago, we got 3,000 resumes to work out by a team in 2020. 3, we got 3,000, 24, we got 11,000, 25, we got 33,000, so when we got 33,000, we only interviewed 3 or 4,000 of them, we didn't interview all of them, so what do we do then? I sat down and I said, how do we know we hired the best people? So we launched a software for us called Interview AI. What Interview AI allows me to do is you do a five minute interview at the end, it gives me a score of your experience, skill set and culture. And then if the score is above 70, we look at it and we want to meet with you 101. So now I can get 1,000 people at the same time that are doing an interview and it pops up a score for me. So we'll say, only give me the people that I got 70 across the board. So that 1,000 will say it's only these 88 that scored 70 across the board. Great. Let's interview them. You can say, make it 75, make experience 80, but make skill this, you can adjust that the way you want. So I didn't have that two years ago. That's really useful, honestly. In a big way it is for me today, calibration, efficiency today with our employees. So our employees today, we calibrate everybody on five different metrics, okay? And those five different metrics that we have, effort, attitude, innovation, leadership and results, trying to see if I have it to show to you. Those five things that we measure on, each of them had four categories. We scored from zero to 10. Our managers now are calibrating each of the employees in a way where we know who's going to get a raise, who's going to get promoted, who's going to hit their bonus, who's going to move up, who's not going to move up. It's no longer a if, maybe that conflict, hey, an employee works for you. Can I talk to you Friday afternoon? They're quitting typically when they want to meet with you Friday afternoon. You don't want to have that friction. I think I deserve a raise. I think I deserve a promotion. No, it's very simple. You don't need to come to us. We come to you. You're getting a raise. You're getting promoted. So using AI to calibrate allows me now to track if your efficiencies improve quarter to quarter plus minus would score one up with score one down. Why is that? Then see which managers are doing a better job of calibrating their own individual people that are working for them to see if you're sitting down, asking them about the direction of their career, what next move they're going to make. So the managers are also being held accountable on how to get a job they do develop another's. Does that make sense? Yeah, that's fascinating. That's all AI for us. Yeah, that's all AI for us. Because I think the reason that a lot of sales companies are so successful is because it's so easy to track the commission and people have incentives to move up, but I never thought about the AI gives you the capabilities for people to see this is exactly what gives me a raise. And these are the exact set of actions I need to do. And then the bosses can track all that with the AI, that makes sense. Patrick, of all the guests you've had on your show, general world leaders, former spies, who is the person you sat down with and you were proud of yourself? Wow, this guy's doing serious stuff and one of the things he's doing is he's all my show right now. Who's that for you? You had a lot of guys on. I'd say it was Andrew take the first time and then Alex Hermosi for sure, yeah, and would you take away from each of them? Let's say from Alex, it was probably like just do the fucking work. And then from Andrew, it was have a little bit of fun while you do the fucking work. Yeah. And Andrew definitely has a lot of fun. I was proud of myself. I really enjoy talking to Kobe, it's a relate to Kobe. So I really, really enjoy talking to Kobe, that was probably the top. Trying to think. Trump was one we were looking forward to doing for a long time. Back at him. You know, we were glad we did that. Proud of myself, I don't know if I look at interviews we do as proud of myself. I think it's more what I enjoyed and what I got out of it less than proud proud. If we are sitting there and there's a major conflict in an interview, you know, sitting down with debates, fights, they get an edge, I get an edge, we're going back and forth. Those are good conversations like Anthony Wiener was fun. Jason, I talked to media son at a good time with media son, even though it was very contentious as certain times and some points he made some very good points and I made my points. But I would say one of the craziest one was with John McAfee from Antivirus. I don't know if you know, when did you do John McAfee, I did probably 10 years ago, eight years ago. Holy shit. In the middle of the interview, a guy knocks on the door. His Navy SEAL security guy runs to the door with a gun at the 43 minute mark. My camera guy is panicking, he thinks he's thinking we're going to get killed right there. When I walk in, it's me, Mario, and another guy who's there with us shooting, the three security guys say, hey, by the way, what are you doing? I said, John invited us to do an interview. What's your background? I said, I was in a military. No, you weren't. I was. He said, what's the three brothers, where were you stationed now? Ford Campbell can't talk you. Which unit? 326 engineers. Who was your, so they're just like wondering if this guy's real or not at the end of it. At the end of it, he says, man, I wish you were the told us as you want some scotch, you want some whiskey. I said, yeah, sure. No prompt. He's going to say, we have some four prostitutes upstairs. If you want to kind of relieve yourself before we do the interview, I said, listen, thank you for your hospitality, happily married, not interested, and we got into the interview. He shows up, a bunch of dogs, German shepherds show up, it's chaotic, crazy. The entire time he has a cigarette, he has a gun, and he has a drink to do the interview. The most paranoid person I've been in my life was John McAfee. I've never met anybody more paranoid in my life than John McAfee. What's the one thing Trump taught you that maybe he didn't say on the interview or one thing you learned from Trump? Trump's constantly driving. He's constantly poking, driving, advancing, trying to win you over, on camera, off camera. Wanna hear your thoughts? What do you think? What are your thoughts on this? It's constant. You think he was the best salesman you've met? Best salesman I've met? He's got to be the best salesman I've met. He's set with some billionaires, but they were billionaires because they're brilliant. Mark Cuban's a very good sales guy, but not as good as Trump. Although Mark Cuban sold a company for a few billion dollars and six months later, they shut down the company, so he's probably a better salesperson than Trump, if you think about it. But yeah, probably Trump. Is anyone ever told you off camera that the UFO thing is real? Yes. High-new grippy setting mist from Maybelline, New York. Yes, I've been told you or no? No, no one's told you. Yeah, a couple of guys told me. Someone's told me that it wasn't real. That it wasn't real. Off camera. I think. Would you? No. Are you into UFOs? Are you a UFO guy or no? Because that's something you read on and you watch documentaries and stuff like that or no. We don't really look at it too much. We did see the movie, "I Disclosure Day," some way. That's about it. I have very little interest in UFOs, very little interest in you, but I've interviewed people. The real UFO guys are the guys that Rogan set on, because Rogan's actually very interested in UFOs. I'm not. And in afterwards, they're like, well, you know, let me tell you what happened. I'm telling one of the guys I brought, I can't give his name. Brought him over to the house. He said that he showed me pictures and text communication with people that are in the higher up. And it's like literal text you're looking at and numbers being verified and you show me pictures and videos that he had. It's the guy was afraid of showing it on the interview, but he showed it face to face on my house dinner after the interview that we had. It was fascinating. And you don't think they're out there, like, how much of the space you think we've invested yet? It's a mathematical question that we know they're out there. Hmm. Yeah. Yeah I mean it's basically like information warfare online like you see so much stuff at one point that made sense to me at one point it made sense to me that maybe aliens were some spiritual phenomenon that people were describing I can't really figure it out but if someone showed me a video of an alien and it was a physical thing then I think it's a math for me right I think it's purely math what's underwater while you've only investigated 5% of it so we have a 95% no what can be down there anything how deep have we investigated what happens when we go all the way down well the capsule aids does this it okay so not that much investigation not that much investigation okay then what is the possibility could there be a megalodon could there be other things creatures we've not seen probably but if that's the earth and that's 95% of the earth we haven't how much of space have we 0.0001% I don't know anything could be out there yeah we got you know telescopes and things that we can look and see closer what's going on but there's got to be something out there that's fascinating um question is when they come here who's going to be the first podcast to get on you think they've already been on a podcast oh you're going there I don't know illegal aliens have I don't know aliens have I don't know some people think there's you know I had a guy on what was his name um what was his name how to guy on I forget his name but he was a big conspiracy guy and he believed lizard people exist that he believed Justin Bieber was a lizard guy David Ike David Ike David Ike have you spoken to him yeah he has some unique takes unique takes I'm now part of that camp right that thinking people are lizard people now he believed Bieber he believed a bunch of people were lizard people yeah I've always I haven't looked too much into him I think he's in the UK or something but he talks though he talks to a lot of people it's crazy to me how many people believe in that specific theory uh lizard people yeah you don't no yeah I don't at all uh I haven't done this tradition in a while in the podcast but I thought it would be interesting with you specifically what's one question you have for our next guest Tucker Carlson is your next guest you're meeting with Tucker what question to ask him hmm well I asked him one of the questions it's not one I got 50 of him for him but it's a question you got for next guest Tucker Carlson she I I don't even know if I asked his question he's going to really say what he thinks the answer is to the question you know I don't know I don't know I don't know for Tucker because I don't even think I would get the answer it's fair Patrick if all your videos books and tweets were erased from the internet forever and all you had was the next 60 seconds what's the one piece of advice you would leave to the world uh the sooner you realize if you have big dreams to do you can't do it alone one is people you need to write people around you to help you go places especially big places and two there will be moments in your life that there will be nobody to talk to not your mom not your dad not your wife not your husband not your brother nobody and faith will play a very important role in your life when you're by yourself so if you get those two pieces right you've solved 80% of problems in your life people and faith especially when you're by yourself because you will be what's the worst piece of advice you've ever received don't get married one guy said marry a girl with three kids because she's going to need you a lot and she'll do anything for you it's a pretty bad advice I never forget that advice specifically that was the advice was there a girl that you were thinking of marrying three kids he just said if you want to only work for the rest of your life and not have a woman bother you marry a woman with already three kids she'll do anything for you is that what he did no he didn't do that's what he was advising me and bother he was a good guy but that advice was a pretty shitty advice i would leave it on that beautiful and uh when's your book coming out oh i have no idea i have nothing to sell today this this is a book i just finished that i'm recommending to everybody but this probably three years i'm working on three books right now one is on fatherhood one is flywheel and the other one is i was approached by a big publisher to want to write a book on politics i haven't said yes but they've offered a massive advance and i don't know if i'm going to write it not right now it's too much noise beautiful uh well everyone this has been your guest Patrick but David this is the jackpot cast i appreciate you coming on anytime thank you brother imagine setting your makeup then forgetting it's even theirs meet new grippie setting mist from mavelie new york jelda mist technology locks in your look for up to 24 hours with flexible all-day comfy grip no tightness no stickiness no residue just plump dewey hydrated skin that still 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