The podcast features a detailed recap of a European tour across six cities: London, Paris, Geneva, Amsterdam, Berlin, and Stockholm. Each city is evaluated for its unique cultural, social, and culinary aspects. London impresses with its lively crowds and historical depth, while Paris is celebrated for its aesthetic charm and iconic landmarks—though food is described as underwhelming. Geneva stands out for its scenic beauty, the rare eclipse viewing, and a thrilling bike escape. Amsterdam’s vibrant canals and street fashion are balanced by stressful biker culture and a unique visit to the legally regulated red-light district, presented as an eye-opening, educational experience. Berlin is praised for its spacious, peaceful atmosphere, rich history, and well-organized urban life. Stockholm is highlighted for its minimalist design, strong social values, and commitment to work-life balance, with early store closures reflecting deep respect for employee wellbeing. Throughout, the hosts emphasize contrasts between European and American lifestyles, such as breakfast habits, fitness culture, and public behavior. The episode concludes with a promotional message for Quince, featuring lightweight cashmere cardigans as essential fall staples, and encourages listeners to support the show by subscribing. The discussion reflects both personal experiences and broader cultural observations, offering a thoughtful, balanced view of European travel and societal values.
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I'm just going to refresh a beef that UK and India have.
The British are not going to do it again, come on Zarna.
I mean, the fact that people line up to see a diamond, it's a stone, it's a rock.
Like, only in UK, because in America, if you want to see a diamond, you go to Costco.
Literally, it's sitting next to the rotisserie chicken, there's no arm guards, there's nothing,
there's a guy named Gary who's just making sure it's still there.
Hello and Namaste, welcome to the Zarna Gard family podcast where all five guards are in
the house.
And today's episode, you're going to end up taking sides, we're taking sides, everybody's
got an opinion and we're going to jump right into it.
Today is a Europe recap episode of going to six cities in Europe this past summer.
And what do we think about each city we went to?
Do we like it?
Do we not like it?
What are the pros?
What are the cons?
And where would we go back?
Where would we go running back?
And where are we?
We're going to go again.
Okay, let me just list.
It was eight.
It was eight.
It was eight.
It was five European cities in Europe and Asia London which is part of the UK.
Wow.
The UK is not part of Europe.
I like that.
I like that.
British people, I got you, like Veer says, I got you, I know you're not part of you.
That was too much.
That is not right.
You cannot separate from a whole continent.
No, they didn't.
Consonants are not, like it's not like a leader in 2016.
It's how you grew the land on Earth.
And not be part of Europe in any way or from it.
London is in Europe.
Can you not start with this right now?
We went to six cities.
I'm just saying that I protected you and from here point on, I can't do much about it.
But as British people, I protected you.
So we went to the following six cities, London, Paris, Geneva, Amsterdam, Berlin, Stockholm.
These were the six cities we went to and we have very strong opinions about each of these
cities.
And we're going to get right into it.
We can ask one question.
Does the food get worse as you go further up north?
Definitely not.
Oh.
Just to be clear, because it could be very confusing considering my dad has talked to
him so far, he actually was not on the mission, but he was not on the biggest.
We know.
We know.
I'm going to point that out.
So as we're describing our journey through Europe, keep in mind, my dad was only in one
location, which was Geneva, because he loves Switzerland.
But the rest of locations, you can ask questions, but one thing I believe he has spent more
time there than all of us, but we were just there, but we were just there at the world
changes.
That's your life.
Europe has not changed in 25 years and will not change for the next 25 years and will
not change for the next 100 years.
Mom said that she was scared that when we're talking about locations like Berlin, that
you haven't even been to, that you are going to start having your own opinions about.
I mean, I've not been to Berlin, the city in Germany.
That is true.
But I've been to the bare festival in Munich and I've driven on the Autobahn and the only
one that has driven no speed limit in an Autobahn.
Wow.
And the only one.
That is cool.
I can say that in Germany.
Why don't you bring this up when we're talking about this?
He's not been to Berlin.
Yeah, best of shalom.
That's Swedish.
I can speak a little Swedish.
I can speak a little German.
I can speak German.
I speak German.
I speak German.
I speak German.
I speak German.
I speak German in the city too.
Like we could go and speak Swedish.
I speak Swedish.
That means I don't see.
No, it's like, it's like those dragons.
No.
He's the big Kahuna in this situation.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
How do you know?
I love you in every language and yet you don't say it.
Take a dick.
What is it?
Take a dick.
Take a dick.
No, take a dick.
She's a dick.
Her pronunciation is not good, but the words are right.
I took lessons in Swedish, right?
You did.
I'm romantic like the French.
Maybe you should read this episode.
I was like, I'm going to the British.
He was not there.
Can we just remember what this episode is about?
We are talking about the six cities specifically that we visited.
And why don't we start from where we started?
Up until where we ended.
Yeah, first.
At the end, all of us will give a ranking of our favorite six cities in order.
So stay tuned for that.
Yeah.
And we want to know your rankings too.
Okay.
So the first thing is like that.
That's too stressful.
I'm not going to rank.
I'm telling everyone right now, my audience, I'm not going to rank.
I'm not going to do this travesty just in the peer pressure.
I'm not going to do it.
Okay.
Okay.
Anyways.
So the first location, I should mention prior to our European tour, we did do an Asian tour
where we went to both Hong Kong in Singapore, which we also did a podcast episode about
if you want to check that out.
I mean, I love London.
Oh, we started in London.
I love London.
I was really, we spent a lot of money on the hotel rooms in London because we specifically wanted
to be across the street from Hyde Park.
And you know, that location, not cheap.
And then we showed up.
And the whole Hyde Park was brown.
There was no green grass anywhere to be seen.
Which had me very concerned and shocked because we've been going to Hyde Park locations.
Yeah.
Are you sure?
30 years at this point.
I saw it getting weaker with the agents, sir.
Wow.
So did you think that too?
It was brown.
We were.
No, dad.
He was wearing it.
Dad's whole side of the family has vision problems.
Yeah.
My dad does not wear glasses.
I don't wear glasses.
Yeah.
He definitely made them.
It's very brown.
We make a lot of jokes about how many brown people there in London, all over London.
It's all brown people.
I wanted to go and meet like, you know, like, maybe the Queen or the King might walk around.
Instead, you're like Sanjay Vijay.
So you thought you were going to just meet the whole royal court?
Well, I thought they might be like walking around.
What would you do in the fallances?
I would have taken a selfie.
British think they're all too very seriously.
Very, very seriously.
Like, but again, I will not make such insulting remarks.
What was so insulting about saying I'm a king?
I wouldn't be walking around.
I know.
I'm not.
It's not true.
Why would they be walking?
Did you ever see?
Did you ever see?
Did you ever see somebody of extreme position of power just walking around?
No, but we were in that neighborhood.
It was a dig.
No.
It was a dig on the royal court.
But actually, one thing that we were told about the royal family in UK, which I thought
was fascinating, is, so I didn't understand, like, why do they have a royal family and a
prime minister and like a whole separate government?
Like, who actually ruled over the land?
I can tell you that.
Yeah, actually, you don't explain it.
It's like any other democracy, Prime Minister is like an Indian.
Indian democracy was born out of the British political system at the time.
That's why we have a Prime Minister in India as well.
So the legal head of the country is a Prime Minister.
And the figurative head is the crown, which is the king.
But the king's estates and all of that are run on British taxpayers' money.
Which is the big debate that they constantly have on whether or not the British taxpayers
should continue to fund the British royalty.
One other thing is that actually a lot of people don't know this.
But England's Magna Carta is basically their Constitution.
And they made it before the United States made any sort of like solid framework.
Let me finish.
And the United States Constitution was the blueprint of it was based on the Magna Carta very loosely.
How can it not be the United States was a colony of the British?
Yes.
The British created the United States and then the United States.
What?
Oh my God.
Thank God.
That is another history part.
It is not a history part.
It came out of rebellion against the British.
I will say the Indian food in London was by far the best out of every source.
Completely disagree.
I agree.
I agree.
I think that my sons say that they didn't like the Indian food in London.
I agree.
I agree.
They don't need the only two people in the world that say that.
Why didn't they either you love it or you hate it?
I'm just saying it wasn't the best out of it.
First of all, mom made sure that we tried Indian food in every single city.
Which is something else.
Why did we have to eat Indian food in every city?
Because we had Indian people.
No.
It's prepared differently.
The produce, the preparation.
Why do we have to go Indian?
Like why?
Yeah.
I mean, I wouldn't have forced them.
That's the difference.
I'm a lot more.
We're open-minded in that picture,
but that's the moon, that's sort of different.
- Dad is PR for himself.
(laughing)
- Wait, I mean, I know you're gonna talk about it,
but I need to throw it out right now.
The rest of us that you're dad picked.
- Yeah.
- Of what they're amazing.
- We're gonna get there once we got to Geneva.
(laughing)
- We're gonna get to Geneva.
- We're gonna get, you're gonna get your flowers
and now no one wants to give it to you
because you're just claimed though.
- Just wait for Geneva.
- Yeah, you need that.
- Before we move on, before we move away from London,
hold on, I'm just gonna refresh a beef that London
and UK and India have.
- Yeah.
- The British, I think.
- Oh my God, not the goingood again.
Come on, Zana.
- Is an ongoing beef because the Indians say it's theirs
and then the British says it was gifted to them.
Was it gifted?
Was it stolen?
We don't know.
But I officially, on behalf of everybody in India,
want to put that beef in and say, keep it.
(laughing)
Keep it.
Because only the British can chase the most valuable diamond
acquire it after chasing it all over the world
and then somehow still lose value on it.
(laughing)
Because it's probably an Indian scientist named Subramanyam
who was like, we can make this in 3D.
We can make this in a printer, let them have it.
So I just wanted to put, look at this.
- Didn't they, Indian?
- Good things.
We are doing this.
- Didn't they, Indian's also steal the coin or though?
From Scott.
- Wait, that's not gonna save.
We're not gonna talk.
Actually, technically, I did my own research on this.
Technically, India also, under the same thing
that the British claimed that it was a gift,
also were gifted the coin or buy it.
- In economics, countries are divided into four.
Countries that are rich, but they think they are rich.
Countries that are poor, but they think they are rich.
Countries that are rich, but they think they are poor.
And countries that are poor, they think they are poor.
They understand the poor.
- So rich, poor, poor, poor, rich and rich.
- China as an example, is a country that's rich, that still believes is poor, but it's actually rich.
America is a country that's rich and thinks it's rich.
- Where is this coming from?
- Britain is one of those countries that's actually poor, but still thinks it's rich.
- Yeah.
- That is the biggest problem, because and the politicians are trying to educate the general public,
but the wealth looted over 300 years has run out.
- Can you tell us about the Costco?
- I mean, the fact that people line up to see a diamond,
I mean, now it feels so archaic, it's a stone, it's a rock.
You know, literally, it's sitting next to the rotisserie chicken.
There's no arm guards, there's nothing.
It's a guy named Gary, who's just making sure it's still there.
Like, this is a difference, and you're right.
Because also, because America's wealth is not in all this looted stuff.
- It's not in stores.
- America's wealth is in its iPhones, which is your favorite thing.
- It's true, America's wealth is in its iPhones brands, and it's complicated.
- I want to say one more thing about London, which is, by far, the most important part.
In my opinion, it was the best crowds we had on the entire tour.
- And I'll take that a step further, that might have been the best show we've ever had.
- If anyone's watching, and you guys were at those shows, you guys know especially,
and my god, it was insane.
Like, they were-- - They were sold out shows.
- For every seat wall to walled back, and everybody's so happy.
- It was a big one. - It was a big one.
- It was a big one. - It was a big one.
- Yeah, and that's a lot because Europe overall was a high bar.
- Yeah, it was truly a high bar. - Every show was amazing.
- So the people there also are happy. - All right, well, next is Paris.
- Paris. Paris? What do we think? Paris was my favorite star.
- What, Paris was really? - Yeah, I just loved it.
I've never been to Paris.
It felt like you were living in a different era,
and every street was made out of this limestone, white cream material
that just let this beautiful glow across the city.
And the people were so fascinating.
Like, the people were all extremely hot, extremely chic.
- What? - Definitely.
- That would shine over Europe for sure.
- I mean, the people nice, 'cause there's a trope about French people not being nice.
- More there? - Those who are lunged in too.
- No, but French people-- - I just think they outclass me.
Like, I don't think it's them not being nice.
They're just so classy.
I'm just like, I feel like a hobo standing there.
- They're blunt. - They're blunt.
They're also all dressed, extremely nice.
The men will have their hair blown out.
Like a lot of them, the American hairstyles
are not the European hairstyles by any sense,
especially in nice places like Paris.
- Did you get your hair cut in Paris?
- No, I got it in London. - Oh, okay.
- But I understand why you really like this place
and make sense here, a classicist.
You're definitely into these things.
And I understand me personally, it was all right.
It was okay.
The food there was like, it wasn't that good.
- I know, I just think it was all underwhelming.
- I so-- - It just wasn't that good.
- In Paris? - In Paris.
- No, that's again weird.
How could food not be good in Paris?
The culinary capital of the world.
I'm just saying, generally, my expectations were here
and they were like, they were here.
- But-- - It's like what it meant.
- You know who had the opposite reaction.
It was my sister's favorite place.
It was our producer's favorite place.
It was my mom's second favorite place.
- Oh, you're giving away the ranking.
- It's my bad, my bad.
- I will tell you, we made the decision again
to splurge on a really good hotel in Paris.
We paid to be in the backyard of the Eiffel Tower.
- Yeah.
- And when we walked into the hotel with so many bags,
we was stressed out and all was looking.
But after we checked in and I stepped out
and just turned left and saw the whole tower,
it was a moment that I've never had my breath
be taken away like that.
Because it was so beautiful and it was right there.
- Can you show us that?
- It was so-- - How was that?
- It was weird, 'cause like an act how it happened.
- Do you wanna just kill me?
- No, no, she's not. - No, no, no.
- What? - I need to wash my face.
- How did you know she had any relationship?
- Oh, how you breath got taken away.
Like, why don't you just choke me right now?
- I see you, I need you. - I see you, Tommy.
- I just wanna see an expression.
I may not have seen in the past.
- I thought the Eiffel Tower was not only stunning,
but at the night time.
- It was stunningly beautiful and then at the top of every hour
for five minutes, this is only Parisian people.
'Cause if it was in America,
it would be brightly glowing all day and all night.
There would be neon lights on at 24 hours.
- And I'm McDonald's selling pretty much.
- And it would be like, it cost money to look that way.
But no, in Paris, for five minutes at the top of every hour,
the whole tower sparkles.
Like this delicate sparkle.
Oh my God, when we saw it for the first,
I saw it with my producer for the first time.
And I was so shocked.
- That's a stupid question, can I ask?
So like, when you were sleeping in the afternoon or in the evening,
does that light like randomly come into your eyes and like,
- No.
- It's a very, so just so you know,
she'll have the tower was not following me.
(laughing)
Tower did not leave its location and plant itself
in my hotel room just so I can edit it.
Because I know that in your mind, that's what's happening.
- For the first time in my life,
I like seriously, for the first time in my life in Paris,
I had actually enjoyed going to a museum.
I'm not somebody who enjoys going to a museum
or seeing any of the artwork,
but I did go to a museum with my brother.
He went to a museum that or say,
if we could go to a museum.
- You did not go to the Louvre.
- The Louvre.
- Oh, you can't just go, it's like,
- Why are you so shocked?
- Like they chose the most fun museum of Paris.
- Hold on, but this museum was a very,
very beautiful experience.
And also, one thing that was really cool about the museum
was that it had a lot of,
it would show each era and its own exhibit.
So it would show this, like the 60s,
what did Paris look like, the 70s, what it looked like,
80s, what it looked like.
Which I thought was a super interesting way
of seeing how Paris came to be.
The beautiful land that people saw,
which I think deserves its own props.
- Honestly, I was just the happiest in Paris.
- So the French show, the Paris show,
was on a Tuesday night.
And my agents and managers had actually warned me
that that's gonna be a tough sell.
It's a Tuesday night in August.
We're not sure who's in Paris
because apparently everybody leaves Paris.
But the people who do everyday jobs
don't just leave.
So, and we work every day of the year.
So I remember when I opened the Paris show,
I said, look, I know that a lot of Parisians are out of town.
But you guys are working people.
We are working people and we are here for you.
And the audience went nuts.
Because this idea that everybody can just leave their jobs
and take a month off here and take a month off there.
We were there for the people who were working in Paris
and we got to connect with them.
It was a wild audience.
- Yes, it was.
- It was an unbelievable audience.
We saw it so much March.
It was really lovely.
- And I met a girl there in Paris.
- You did!
- I told him she liked him.
- Yeah, and Dee Dee actually like,
this is one of the most,
like I've never seen Dee Dee write about relationships ever.
Like since like high school.
But in this situation, she aced it
which was insane to see.
- Where did you meet her?
- I met her outside of Mom's show actually in Paris.
- She was so sweet.
- You literally, literally picked her up from a show.
- No, she DM me saying she was in Paris.
- Like that's so funny.
- Are you standing out and being like,
"Hello, are you saying you're in Paris?"
- You know.
- You know.
- It does kind of sound like that.
I want to make sure that I am not out there
literally asking girls for their number outside of a show.
I kind of knew her before and she DMed me that she was in Paris.
- Indian?
- Yes.
- Wow.
- Why are you like wearing a mask?
- She's so smart.
- She looks straight at me.
- Literally like waiting for a scandal to it.
- She's so cute.
- Again, I think Europe is super, super romantic.
And I think Paris, especially everyone knows,
is super beautiful for romance.
And it's so much better than America.
Because in America, your best options are like Starbucks
and Six Flags.
Those are like the two places you can take a girl on a date.
- Yeah.
- And those are like the best options that for my age.
And in Europe, there's like 100 different things.
- One observation I had all over Europe
that I noticed first in Paris is that at all types of shows,
people are really long clappers.
So whenever you hit a joke, they'll clap,
they'll take their time with it.
And in America, you have to drag it out of them,
you'll get two clappers.
That's all you get, they're interesting.
- Just in case anybody is wondering
because Paris is the city of romance,
I made sure Shalab was not there.
(laughing)
I made sure that please,
whatever you do, do not come there.
- Joya, did you have any experience with men?
- No.
- Oh, yeah.
- I mean, I had experience with dead male painters.
Next, we had Geneva, Switzerland.
- Geneva.
- Which your dad has a lot of history
with the country of Switzerland.
We were in, not my favorite hotel,
but the hotel itself was great,
but it was so expensive
that we had to stay a little outside the city.
It was just so expensive for all of us to stay in the city,
but what a stunningly beautiful city.
- But even though it was slightly out,
I have to say the infrastructure of the hotel itself.
- So it was great, the hotel was wonderful,
and we had the best time.
And it was the official midpoint of our tour,
so we were kind of ready to--
- And our joint, which changed the scenery.
Now we're not only speaking to each other anymore,
we can speak to everybody.
- Yeah, I remember it was helpful.
- And he had restaurant recommendations
for all the beef and things that you would say.
- And while we were all going to say
we're the restaurants that dad picked,
which was one Chinese restaurant,
one Lebanese restaurant, and something else,
we're by far the best places I've ever eaten at.
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- Oh my gosh, the rice and the hummus.
It was just, I've never,
it's just the fullest form of every dish you can imagine,
with so much flavor, no oil.
- And the best part is,
remember that burger place that we sat down at?
At Globus?
- Oh, yeah.
- Yeah.
- That was so good.
- Oh, guys.
- That's the point that in Switzerland,
you don't have to go to a three Michelin star restaurant.
You can go-- - I don't know of three Michelin stars, I think.
- There is a thing called three Michelin stars.
- I think it's just Michelin stars.
- Oh, but you can have one, two or three.
- I don't know if that's a thing.
I've never heard of it.
- Anyway, you don't have to go to a Michelin star restaurant.
You can go to a very everyday restaurant,
and you'll still find the culinary experience
to be very, very good,
because if the produce that they have
is generally domestic, ingrown,
and they're very careful with your food standards.
- Yeah, very, very good.
- Actually, this is a good place to have this discussion.
We did the Asia recap,
where we did the whole breakfast spread
from Hong Kong and China.
Europe is the opposite.
Europe is basics, but really well done, basic.
- I prefer that so much.
- Yeah, it's not like 25 entries,
and dim sum and dumplings and soup and paneer.
It's not like that.
It's like a little bit of very high quality cheese,
some eggs, yogurt.
Like, if you just looked, it looked minimalistic.
- A hundred percent.
- I was so good.
- The breakfast, like all the hotels we went to,
usually had breakfast included,
and it was very simple breakfast.
I ate at these breakfast every single day.
I loved them so much.
Every, the walnuts, I remember just thinking,
this is what a walnut is.
- It tastes so good.
- It's a coffee machine.
- That's a coffee machine.
- Oh, a coffee machine in a hotel.
I need that coffee machine in a hotel.
- It's not the coffee machine that did I.
- It's a coffee machine that did it.
- It's like this so many times.
- It's the machine.
- I can get to the machine.
That thing is gonna happen without the beans.
- So then let's get the beans, too.
- Yeah, you can't import that because of the time.
If it costs 50% tariff now to get those beans.
- Actually, we just learned that because
we ordered jeans from Japan.
- Yeah.
- And it's a 50% tariff, so--
- That was the first time I saw a vegan in terms of--
- You know, America will not like that for a night.
- It's the first time I saw a vegan in terms of--
- You never made the Joey order these, you showed Japan.
And you had to be 50% on top of whatever
as we included somewhere there.
And then they dealt with that.
- I also went swimming in Lake Geneva.
I did a lot in the lake.
It's much harder to swim in a lake than it is in a pool.
It was so beautiful.
And the people, again, were so attractive.
Like, you have to give it to them.
They're so athletic looking.
And so, just the outfits and the towels.
- Again, because they are ski, they're ski,
they're sport, they're just taller.
- Yeah, they're so tall, they're just tall.
- But that's very, very--
- It's not an excuse to be like this fit though.
- How did you feel when I was--
- I was walking around there,
and I was like, looking at these beautiful girls.
And the girls are all taller than me.
And then the men were even more taller than them.
So I was like, I have no chance to cook up in Europe.
I can walk you through.
Like, damn, this is just terror.
I prefer short lands where people are more average height
'cause that's what I am.
So that was very frustrating.
- Well, but I will tell you that one thing
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is that the population is aging.
- So when you go to Asia,
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- Switzerland in particular, it's a much older population.
- That is true.
- And that's great.
- They don't have that much immigration
and the population is not growing, so hence you're right.
- We didn't talk about seeing the eclipse.
- It's very rich country when you saw that.
- Oh yeah, the eclipse.
- Basically.
- Well, there was a half a clip, the day we landed,
there was this huge eclipse happening
that the entire city of Geneva was getting ready to see.
And so we were eating dinner
and we were like, "We're gonna sprint
and go catch this eclipse."
We did the craziest escape room from Paris.
- Insane maze, I've never seen those.
- It was like Percy Jackson.
- It was insane.
- 'Cause it was, we were at a restaurant on a hill
and Geneva has a lot of hills and ups and downs.
And bridge was so positive.
He was like, "We're gonna make it, he dragged beer
"and we just sprinted up a castle.
"We sprinted through a bell tower."
- If you know, it works, the land just goes up.
Like it's on an inconse.
You're literally, I don't know how,
I wish there was a, if any of you guys have ever played
the video game Fall Guys, it's like a Fall Guys level
where you're literally going up these random locations
up like verdict.
- It was so fun.
- We were in a movie.
- We were in a video game.
- It fell in Indiana Jones.
- Okay, okay, all right.
- We saw one more thing about Lake,
which this is the one thing I want to ask the comment section
to know is mom crazy is the question.
And I'll tell you the story of what happened.
- Oh no.
- Me and Vera were in a lake.
And we got this very cheap boat rental
where you, what is it?
What is a boat bike?
- Pedal boat.
- No, not pedal.
- Pedal boat.
- Pedal boat.
- Where you're able to bicycle like use a,
you know, a bicycle is a pedal.
You're able to rotate the pedals
and you're able to sit on the boat
and kind of travel the lake in different directions.
So we got it, we thought it'd be fine.
We go near mom instant crash out.
She instantly starts crashing out.
She gets so mad at us.
She gets get off that boat immediately.
Go back, return the boat.
She starts getting very mad.
And she made us get off the boat literally five minutes
after we got on the boat.
- And did you ran along the shore?
- 'Cause I was feeling like a boat.
Which was super funny.
It's a lot of very like video gamey stuff
that happened in Geneva.
And then right after that boat experience,
Vera got very mad.
And then Vera and mom entered their own battle,
which was like the first time she's a beer mom.
Swiss people were jumping into Lake Geneva.
They were just, actually, they would walk around and take it.
- They were, the little boys are completely naked.
- So I'm taking their shirts out and these guys are like,
I want to jump off the bridge into Lake Geneva.
I mean, you are not jumping off the bridge into Lake Geneva.
I don't know what is happening.
We are not lake swimmers.
We're barely, what is a lake swimming pool in here?
- In that context, there's literally no difference
between swimming and that and swimming in like a pool.
- No, that's not, thank you.
- That's not true as much time.
- When I was in the actual lake swimming,
it's, it's definitely two times the resistance
of a regular lake.
What do you think it was?
- It's just like big water?
- No, the, the current is so in time
that when you're swimming against it,
you'll be pretty strong.
- And the very back and forth, too.
- We actually, we don't know.
So when you don't know, take a beat.
Don't just get in a boat and start voting all over the place.
This is how kids get in trouble.
Like, this is how kids find themselves in places.
They don't know how to come back.
We don't even know if there's a lifeguard,
if there's a rescue, so that, what would happen?
If something happens, what's gonna happen?
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So we were on a business trip, as I explained to these guys.
Yes, we made time for fun,
but we were on a very aggressive business trip.
And one kid gets sick.
If one kid gets hurt, we end up in an emergency room.
We had a lot of responsibility on our shoulders,
and I'm very responsible in that way.
I have producers I have to answer to.
I have fans who bought tickets from all over Europe
to come see us in different places.
By the way, that's also to the show in Geneva.
People came all the way from Zurich,
which is three and a half hours of.
Zurich and they flew from Portugal, Poland, and me.
Yeah, I mean, yes.
Yeah, and am I neurotic?
Yes, yes.
But is that how I keep everybody safe?
Also, yes.
Also, yes.
I can think of so many exciting things.
We can do right here in our apartment.
We have a bathtub.
We have a pool.
A bathtub.
It's not the same thing as a lake mom come all the way.
No, it's the same thing, it's water.
It's like, get in there and splash it on for a few minutes.
But anyways, that leads to me, mom, if you're getting into war,
which you rarely see, which is really always interesting.
Why did you get so irritated here?
Because you guys don't listen to me unless I'm mad.
You cannot jump off a bridge into a lake in another country.
You just cannot do that.
I don't care who else is doing it.
You, my son, is not going to do that.
The next city was Amsterdam.
Wait, it was so, you're going to have you out on your trip.
Thank you.
Yeah, a great city.
You really brought some light to the trip.
You really, yeah.
You should have taken him to jump off the bridge.
You can't swim.
Yeah, but why not?
You don't have to swim anyway.
It's just a tiny lake.
No one is seeing it.
It's a tiny lake.
Why are you still on this?
We just moved on.
Okay, Amsterdam.
Amsterdam.
We want to talk about Amsterdam.
The bikers were too much.
It was way too much.
It was way too much.
You definitely brought the clothing was fire.
Very good.
Very good.
Street fashion.
I will give credit because before he asked for the credit,
I'll give it to him.
Veer chose the most fire clothing places I've been to in my entire life
during this trip.
More 100%.
And I'll shout out the names.
Are you shouting out the names?
Because you found them.
These are. I can't even say this.
They're very social media-esque brands.
But cold culture, scuffers, new project.
Two jays I found there.
I thought that was really cool.
That's where I got this necklace that you guys can't see.
Where did you get that bracelet?
I love that bracelet.
This was at Globus in Geneva.
That mom found.
I found this.
That also mom found.
This is mom found.
Globus.
But this was very nice.
We got this chain for $120.
This was only $120.
This was not expensive.
Which for a chain that's a medal, $140 is very, very,
really good price tag.
But Amsterdam was stressful for some reasons.
There were bikers everywhere.
Everywhere you couldn't walk in peace anywhere.
Because the bikers are very aggressive.
That's for someone.
No one's wearing a helmet.
That was just. No, there's no helmet.
It's like a culture.
They're like grandmas just biking around when smoking a cigarette.
They're not that many cars.
The bikers are very. but it's so historically beautiful.
If you want to see a very different looking part of them. Visually. with the canals and the historic buildings.
The canals.
The canals were stunning.
All the flowers along the canals.
But the bikers were stressful for me.
And of course, the red light district was. Yeah, we'll get into that after. Come on.
In Amsterdam, because of the bikers,
I actually think I felt what mom felt when she was younger,
taking care of all three of us.
Because sometimes it felt like you guys were just like blind walking around.
Oh yeah, if you're saved by life like twice on the street.
And even from the bikers.
From those tram that come through the street.
Yeah, you guys need for my tram.
So you guys need to watch until. In 2026?
In 2026?
Those drives are very careful.
Bikes are worse than cars.
No.
Bikes, there are just so many people biking so ruthlessly
that you have to. And they're so small that they just zip behind the watch.
You physically pulled me from the tram.
He did. He was very, very. You have to be careful of the bikes.
But also another podcast episode we have coming up
is the red light district podcast,
which you guys should definitely check out if it's already out.
So the red light district is a place. It's the largest in the world legalized sex worker zone.
So it's a regulated industry where women
or anybody of any identity are able to sell sex services
in exchange for money, legally and regulated.
So they're protected healthwise
and they're protected financially.
And there's a lot of security and police
literally 30 seconds to 60 seconds away
from each possible window.
So if you're a customer you want to check it out,
you walk through this neighborhood
and you'll see these people in a red window.
The window will be fully red with red LED lights
and then you can then ask how much for 15, 30, 45, 60 minutes,
which we learned from one of the workers
that we were very luckily lucky to interview
who explained that that's how they charge.
So then you walk through, you ask how much it costs,
they tell you the price.
And if you want, you can then pay them
and then enjoy your time with them for that amount of minutes.
And it's fully legalized.
It is their biggest tourist attraction.
It's its smack center of the city.
So if you want to enjoy any light life
or even honestly get from one point of the city to the other,
you will go through the red light district.
Like it is flaunted, it is normal.
The windows are like kids.
What about drugs? The drugs are too, right?
A lot of drugs.
There are a lot of drugs.
Apparently they're not super legalized.
They just don't care.
Yeah.
We went, the reason, I mean, to speak to some people,
it's scandalous that we as a family
went to check out the red light district.
We went at night, we went at night a few times,
two or three times, we were there for five days.
We had two sold out shows and incredible shows.
We went, one I was curious, I wanted to see what it was.
But once I understood what it was,
I wanted my family, my kids, to see what it was.
Because my New York City snowflake kids,
sometimes snowflake kids think that they can phone other passions.
Life is all roses and peaches,
and they should do what makes them happy.
And I wanted them to see another side of the world,
a world that exists out in the open.
I mean, to be fairs, another, this is controlled Netherlands,
Amsterdam, red light district.
You didn't take them to like this abusive. Yes, I didn't.
But at least we saw some word for it, right?
Was it, or was it not eye-opening for you?
There's no question that this was.
I didn't really put it.
I also even myself, it was definitely the most enlightening part of the end.
Yeah, I'm just saying that Netherlands is a country,
counts in the top five or six of the most humane,
and extremely law-abiding country.
No, okay, but I'm not correct.
But also just you know.
So in other words, they've culturally accepted this as an industry.
They don't look at the red light district,
the way you're projecting it.
We know that, but these kids don't like sitting here
and doing that, opening doors that this goes on.
Here, we don't debate it.
I don't know if this job will make that happen.
But you're making it sound like you took them to the GB Road in Delhi,
which if you did, that would be. What is it, JP Road in Delhi?
You're saying that these kids who've never seen a sex worker in real life,
they just walk by and had a chat with sex workers, and that's nothing.
Oh no, I'm not saying that.
Wait, is it the big question?
But it's not an immersion into human depravity, which is what. It's not what, oh.
Wait, I would ask a really important question to you, Mom,
because I think so many people are going to be curious about this,
because I know I was, and when I told my friends they were,
it is borderline insanity that you took veer to see these women.
Yeah, I can see them now.
Just to the audience knows, these people are also dressed up virtually naked,
and I'm sure in some parts, they probably are completely naked.
So it is, in some ways, taking them through an in-person pornographic event,
almost, as you're kind of walking them through.
Now, a lot of people, I completely agree with my mom's decision to be clear,
but a lot of parents, and especially kids who would say their parents,
would never let them go and experience something like that.
Yeah, I don't know if the 14-year-old was allowed even in that event.
No, there's like literal kids and strollers going there.
I did not take him into me, when we did the interview with the lady,
which is a mind-blowing interview about how she came to doing what she's doing.
Does she touch where was she from? We won't talk. You have to watch the interview.
We didn't take veer in there, but the windows are visible from the street.
Absolutely.
We didn't do anything that's not legal, but like little babies are running around these red windows,
and women are like displaying their entire body, like their tits and ass are all out there.
And it's like, it's part of the culture.
Like, I made veer stand there, we were watching together,
because it was an education for both of us.
And the reason I explained to you why I wanted you guys to see it,
because you have to understand how harsh the world is.
Now, in your dad's eyes, it's not harsh enough,
because maybe in his eyes, I should have taken you into a pose.
I'm not stringed up.
I just said you guys in there, and I caught a bomb with my hands and see.
See? See? See? He could be living like this.
But no. So I. Hold on. I think you're getting a little bit tense right now,
because dad really provoked you.
Like, it's why I did something that I thought was like a really revolutionary parenting move.
Why did you provoke me?
You were coming in like, well, it's not like it's not GB Road and Delhi.
Like, I'm not going to GB Road and Delhi.
You know what I mean?
What she's saying is because you're from India, it's less shocking.
Yeah.
Because we're from America, it's much more shocking.
Maybe.
Because we don't. I've never. I mean, you. Again, if you want to hear more about this specific topic,
because we shouldn't move on at some point to the next city,
we have an entire interview and podcast about this,
we're going much more into the panel.
We went and met one of these ladies at midnight,
and I'll just give you the one minute recap.
She opened up in great detail of camera voice only, no camera allowed,
about how she got into the business, what money she makes,
where the money goes once she makes it, what her family structure is right,
and she was very scared because her parents lived directly above her.
So she was very nervous that if that person found out,
we could all get in trouble.
So we had to do this very, very, very discreetly,
but we were very grateful to her that she gave us that opportunity.
And I thought it was a mind blowing revolutionary opportunity,
not only for my kids, but for you guys and your kids,
to get a glimpse of what the world is like outside,
including some of the harsh reality.
But anyways, actually, I love Berlin.
I think Berlin is so calm, so peaceful, so organized, incredible Indian food, hotel rooms
huge.
A lot more space.
That's a surprise.
A lot more space.
Yeah, a lot more space.
A lot more space.
Which we appreciated after London and Paris where people crammed.
You begin to experience it.
Berlin, we were like every inch as well.
It wasn't.
I honestly, we were not in 5-star hotels in Berlin.
But the rooms were beautiful, they were big, the hotels were very above me.
Did the city feel big or like a tiny, like a small. It felt very metropolitan, very big to me.
And I wouldn't say it felt like a big city.
I thought for sure.
Like, I wouldn't say it.
Like, I wouldn't say it feels like a big city.
Yeah, and it was a lot of big buildings.
There was big malls, there was big buildings.
In that way, I had a lot of movement.
Yeah.
People were like going to work, coming back from work.
I said this earlier on a different thing too.
I think that the walks I had in Berlin were the button best walks I had in any of the
places.
It was amazing.
It was incredible.
The temperature.
We also were very blessed.
We went there during probably the best weather.
They might have all year.
It was just a perfect pristine weather.
And it was amazing walk, so I really appreciated that.
And just coming from Amsterdam where we were stressed out with the bikers everywhere,
Berlin was coming.
It was nice.
The airport was easy, you just got your bags, you got out, every transfer was easy.
And then the city center, which we were sitting, we were right in the center of Berlin.
And walking around there was very organized and peaceful.
Yeah.
It was not, I personally find Berlin cathartic.
I've taken Zoya and Bridgetha, we've been there to do a history tour.
It was the one city when my agents and managers were talking about Europe.
I said, "You must get me something in Berlin."
The Holocaust history was very sobering.
It was everywhere.
There were so many. Yeah.
So how did you see that?
How did you see that?
There were just signs everywhere.
The Berlin Wall is completely just. They have a line that goes through the entire city that represents where the Berlin Wall
was standing.
And we, our hotel was directly behind a beautiful garden, which Zoya was.
Yeah.
It was so nice to go from a big hotel building to just open air, but it's not overtaken
by people.
It was very relaxed, it was very mellow.
So I would say, I personally think that if you're a mom or your young family wanting to
do a Europe getaway, if you want it to be reasonably priced, you want it to be easy,
I would say Berlin should be the top of the country.
Yeah.
That's why I agree with that.
It even has history.
It even has art.
It have like a wide open spaces that you could just really spread out and enjoy yourself.
Europeans, they tend to make fun of Americans having such sugary breakfast, which we do.
We do have very sugary breakfast.
And their breakfast is also very unhealthy.
I don't agree with that.
Their breakfast is not that healthy.
First of all, there's no protein at all, which is even more important than the sugar.
I didn't know much protein.
What protein did you have?
You have to have protein.
I just have to have protein.
I just have to try it.
Eggs do not have protein.
I don't understand why people don't, I just do not have that enough protein for a growing,
like a big man.
You hold on.
Okay, let me tell you how I got the protein.
You can't have protein.
How many eggs are in here?
You know, you cannot just eat chicken steak.
Chicken steak.
You didn't have sausage.
You didn't have any German sausage.
German sausage and you didn't have a sausage.
It's like breakfast.
You have any breakfast.
No, I was not sure.
I don't think German sausage.
It's good for you.
Really?
It's really popular.
I saw it on the radio.
It's like breakfast.
It's like breakfast.
It's not me. - The three eggs is 18 grams of protein.
- Okay, let's continue. - But that's a lot of protein.
- It's not a lot of protein. - Oh my God, it's good.
- Maxings. - Okay, you have the difference,
you have the difference between us and like the average person.
If mom had 18 years of protein for breakfast,
- That's good. - I would be so happy.
- So if you're trying, it's okay, I'll reset.
Drup is not a continent for people who are trying to get bigger.
- They don't. - You'll notice something
that is incredible. - I noticed in Berlin,
we, Bridget, I go to the gym a lot together,
especially when he's here, it's such a delight to go to the gym with him
because he shows me all these different things.
I get my ass kicked and it's really fun.
And so we went to the gym and I noticed
that the heaviest pound weight in this gym
was like a 30 kilogram. - Less than that.
- I think it was like 20. - That is a lot.
- It was like 20. - It was 20 kg.
- It was 15, 50 pounds. - And I can lift that weight.
Like I can squat that weight really easily, to be honest.
And so I was lifting it and I was like,
"Oh my gosh, what is Bridget going to do in this gym?"
He's like, "Can do three times the amount of weight as me."
And I only noticed that people in these cities
don't care about muscular building in the same way
that Americans do when I saw the maximum weight.
And I think it's a testament they care more
about being slim and cardio.
And I actually respect that, you know?
- Very skinny. They like to be very, very,
I mean, they smoke a lot. - Which is easy.
- Which is just a lot. - Which is a lot.
More leading towards skininess.
And also, one thing they made that observation,
I started thinking about it in every European city.
Every European gym, like the Max KG weight dumbbell we saw
was 20 KG. - But I think that there is an issue
in America of over obsession with the muscular belt.
I really respect muscle.
I think every woman, for example,
should be building muscle. I'm very pro that.
But that being said, I do think that we take it way too far
in America, the idea that you need to have
two and a half times your body weight in protein.
I think that's just capitalism.
And I think that is just a marketing scheme
because the more protein you add to an item,
the more expensive that item gets.
- So, why do you do it?
- What do you mean?
I eat a high protein diet, but it's not like I eat two times
the amount of protein in my body weight.
- That was a great point.
- Getting to Stockholm, lastly.
- Yes. - Another country that I lived in.
And in fact, it was the country where
your mother and I first lived as a married.
- The Stockholm play.
- And we lived in a very nice apartment.
Would you say?
- Absolutely. - Because it's small,
but a very beautiful apartment.
- Yeah. - In a fifth avenue,
equivalent area of Stockholm.
- Central Stockholm. - Central Stockholm.
- And I forgot how beautiful Stockholm was.
- Yeah, it's an archipelago, did you guys notice that?
- What does that mean?
- Archipelago. - Or around three times.
- It's an entire city, and I'm disappointed.
- Because sometimes I can't tell if you've
dreamed, if you guys are in Ivy League,
or you're in League Ivy.
I can't tell, because I even mean League Ivy.
- The first thing you noticed was that there were people
protesting.
- Oh my god.
- He's such a gentleman.
- It's funny, is, because in America,
people protest very aggressively.
Like, there's extreme anger with these protests.
There's extreme, like, a lot of different things going on.
And this was more like a parade.
Like, people were walking through with their strollers.
The kids were like playing games with each other
as they were walking through.
At some point, we saw their protests and climate change.
And at some point, we saw a little person dressed as a tree
just walking through, which is so weird.
- To be fair, to the Swedish people's credit,
historically speaking, it is the lead country
to have taken political refugees into the nation over any other.
It started with the Jewish people in the Second World War
and has continued into the years.
And even today, in the last 20, 30 years,
it took so many people from Middle East
and Africa as political friends.
Not too many countries do that.
Sweden is one of the unique ones.
And it's not a country that it can naturally land into, right?
Because it's so far deep, like,
so you have to sort of find your way there,
but they accept them.
- The people were so happy.
- Yes, I know it's a legend.
A lot of social issues for them, but they've not,
they've still, even today, they've continued to do that.
And I don't think it's gone to a point
I think where they want to take it back a bit,
because it's a very socialist country, right?
So they will not let, no matter where you're from,
they're not going to let you not have health care
and not to let a food.
They will take care of all of that as a government.
- Okay.
- Stockholm also, it was bright and very late.
- Oh, yeah.
- And that's so-- - They're in August, yeah.
- Even though all the stores closed really early,
which is interesting.
- That was a trend all over Europe, six PM.
- They can't, like, they can't,
like, it's going to be dark at 10 PM, it's like--
- But they closed at, like, six.
- I don't know, they closed early.
- But they have a high quality of life,
like, yeah, like, we want, you saw them,
they, like, they want to go biking.
- Yeah. - They want to go biking.
- Who here is eating dinner at six, mom?
Like, six PM dinners?
- No, no, what was eating dinner at that?
- No, but he's saying that he was right.
Most of the restaurants are closing at, like, six.
- No, no, no, restels will not close.
The for lunch they're closing at 230,
then reopening at six, definitely. - Yeah, if you went down the street,
like, around the neighborhood, I, like, eat 38 masks.
- Well, the issue is-- - It's really worse for all this.
- Europe does snow down.
Like, I do-- - I'm sweet in this particular,
because they only have three months of summer.
They really, really-- - It smells like chill.
- Nine months, it's dark.
They are the things. - They are the things.
- They're the ones that start getting dark at 3 PM.
So they really try to enjoy this.
- Yeah, that's there. - The work laws
are very strict in Sweden.
I learned that, or in Stockholm, because I learned that,
that you can't get a reservation really late at night also,
because the workers have to go home after a certain hour,
and if you keep someone there beyond their working hours,
you as a business are extremely liable for that,
and they really take that seriously.
I just think it gets a testament to how much they care
about people's lives. - Yeah, it's just an association
in this country, it's structured that way.
- I would say, of all the things,
I was struck by the decor beauty of Scandinavia.
- Oh, wow. - Everything was minimalist.
I would say what is Scandinavia? - What is Scandinavia?
- It was my favorite one. It's a four northern, three or four northern Scandinavia.
- No, Sweden is one. - Sweden is one.
These four countries in the north of Europe
are called Scandinavia. - I just wasn't Scandinavia.
It was a country. - No, it's the region.
- With these three four countries. - I'm just going to say,
the hotel we stayed at in Stockholm,
the Miss Clara Hotel, was my favorite hotel that we stayed on.
- Wow. - Really?
What did you like about it so much?
- Cycle, take. - And her parents?
- Yeah, even though Paris was magical and Singapore was expansive.
For me, I love a simple day.
Our work is so intense and chaotic that if I
I can get a simple day.
I am just the happiest person.
I can read a little bit, I can eat my eggs.
This place, you could walk up the stairs.
There were large arching windows
with sunlight pouring in in the mornings.
It was just the most beautiful hotel.
- No.
Stockholm also really, for some weird reason,
embraces like nudity.
- Yes.
- All of the whole shower was glass
and there was like this tiny little like paper curtain
that you put over it and like you can fully see through it.
- Oh, I did something really fun for our team.
So this was the last stop on our eight city tour
and it was a very physically grueling job.
And so I surprised the team with two Swedish masseuse
who came to our rooms and massaged everybody for three hours.
Basically it was three hours everybody got a time slot
for an hour.
So we got a proper Swedish massage.
If you've never gotten a massage in Sweden,
you've never gotten a massage.
It's all I'll say.
- Wow.
- It's completely different.
They didn't use their elbows when I finished the massage.
Sometimes you get really oily and disgusting.
This, I didn't even feel any oil on my body
'cause it was just the perfect ratio of oil to the massage.
And it was so, you know, sometimes you feel hurt
when you get a massage.
I didn't feel hurt but it was so strong.
- She was like touching my shoulder
and she was like, you're gonna feel this
in the tip of your hand.
I was like, what?
How am I gonna feel this?
And then she like spread my shoulder
and like touch a specific ligament
that for some reason the nerve ending
is in the tip of my finger.
- That was really cool.
- I was like, what the heck is going on?
- It was so fun.
That was so fun.
That was like, we were trying to do one thing in each city.
That was like, representative of that city,
except when my son wanted to jump off the bridge
and lick January, which we were not gonna do.
But the massage we did, the massage we did.
- I hate massage.
- Okay, all right.
- Just in general.
- Because he's a contractor.
- You guys talked about how chic people in Paris,
people in Stockholm were just stunning.
- It's called the Paris of the North.
- It was, people were just. - Look at that.
They're so exciting.
- It's insane.
- The girls are. - I don't understand what they're doing.
- I'm waiting.
- When I turned 18, I'm reaching out to our waiter.
So she was so good-looking.
- She was gorgeous.
And so sweet and accommodating.
And almost everything was, yeah, a sure no problem.
Almost everything.
And that made the end of our trip much, much like. - It was a great song ending.
- At that point, you were like very. You've worked so hard, you were. You kind of find it kind of felt grueling.
That was like, it really canceled out
and made it feel good.
- Well, that last show, man, that was hard.
- Why?
- Just because I was so tired.
- But people were super tired.
- And he was fatigued.
- Yeah.
- We did say a lot of books.
- We wanted to sell out of our books so badly.
Each of us were going through absolute limits
to sell each and every book.
It was, that was, even though it was an amazing crowd
and the show was amazing.
- Man, I have never liked, when I step back into this house
and I step back into this home, oh my gosh.
- I think it was just the adrenaline.
The thing is that this is a job that is run on adrenaline
more than anything else.
And so it was just so many peaks and lows and peaks and lows.
- Yeah, yeah.
- A lot of that happening.
But should we rank our city?
- Yes.
- I love them all equally.
And also London is not part of your. - I know you're kids.
What are you getting so attached for?
- He doesn't even love his kids all equally.
- Okay.
Number one, I was always, I'm gonna spoil the rest
of my list a little bit.
The whole, at the end, I knew between my favorites,
it was between Geneva and stock, look, I'm doing it again.
Between Geneva and Stockholm, and I was like,
it was so difficult to choose because I love both so much.
They both had their ups and downs.
But I think I have to go, Geneva at number one.
- Wow.
- Yeah.
- I think it's, I'm big serious.
Mom, you might want to close your ears.
I think it's 'cause dad was there.
- Aw, that's so exciting.
- It was seeing the new face.
It was having his taste being,
having his taste incorporated.
- But the rest of your tears.
- But the rest of your tears, so much of your love
for fine food.
- Oh yeah, and fragrances.
And you've had a lot of hot taste.
- Regreshawn to guys about the love.
- Yeah, that's so cute.
- So then, yeah, obviously, number two is Stockholm.
London, London, very similar to New York.
And I felt like there was stuff going on there.
Paris, next, Berlin, Amsterdam.
The only one that I didn't really love.
The red light district was eye opening.
The bikers just really brought it down for me.
- I'm gonna go from last to first.
London was last only because I've been there before.
I've been there before.
It wasn't anything new and special for me.
Love London, Berlin, Amsterdam,
was third to last, the red light district changed my life.
I'm never gonna date men the same way.
Geneva, Geneva was made because you were there.
- You made me laugh so many times during the time.
It was the best, I'm so happy.
- There was something, I mean, I know, I know.
There was something.
- Oh, okay, it was.
- Paris, Mom, that I really had a mother-daughter moment
in Paris.
I do think we had some meals and some walks.
(laughing)
- I'm kidding, no, I'm kidding.
- What's so good about it, Zoya?
- Okay, and then number one was Stockholm.
- Oh.
- Gorgeous.
- Wow, so my favorite hotel.
- Oh wow.
- I just, I felt so at home there.
- My number one for sure was Berlin.
I thought Berlin was the one I could see myself living
in the most, things weren't extremely expensive.
It was beautiful, my walks are my favorite.
People are working.
Second, I have Stockholm, Amsterdam.
Yes, I have Amsterdam third,
which seems to be the highest so far.
I cannot make it any lower,
because it was the most learning I've ever done
in any of the cities I learned the most in Amsterdam.
So for that, it has to be at least top three.
After that, I have Paris.
Honestly, Paris was beautiful,
and we were in the most perfect location,
but Paris was very expensive for much very low quantity things,
could never see myself living in a place like that.
Next up was Geneva.
Outside of that, extremely boring.
Lastly, was London.
I find a lot of people in London very rude.
They've been very rude to me, at least in restaurants
and in other places.
- Oh, sure.
- So intense drinking culture that,
I don't drink it.
- Yes.
Oh yeah, that is drinking culture.
- It's really worth it.
- The pop culture.
- The pop culture.
- The people standing outside and just drinking.
- It's not for us.
- It's kind of not our family thing.
- Okay, I'm gonna go and reverse order.
Bottom of the pool for me, Geneva.
- What?
- Because I was there.
- Yeah.
(laughing)
- Ah.
- That's so mean.
- No, you were there, it was fine.
But it was like, we were kind of in a hotel.
There was outside the city, which I was like.
I didn't like that we had to take an Uber every time.
We wanted to go for a walk.
Then second from the bottom is Amsterdam.
Even though I loved it, and I loved all the stuff,
very stressful.
- I didn't enjoy the stress of just walking.
Third from the bottom, London.
London is great.
London is just overall great.
Hyde Park looked like it wasn't shambles,
but an Uber driver did explain to me
that this year was the driest year on record.
And that if it rains a few days,
it becomes green again.
Fourth from the bottom is Stockholm.
Love, love, love, love, the aesthetic, love the hotel,
love the whole thing.
But I felt a little like little generic.
Second from the top, for me, would be Paris.
Because I feel like I was most resistant to going to Paris,
and it ended up being the happiest surprise.
I thought the French people were going to be irritating
and racist and all of that.
And they were actually pretty nice,
and the Eiffel Tower was stunning.
And I rarely, like, I live in New York.
We see enough monuments.
We go a lot of places.
But there was something about the Eiffel Tower
that I feel cannot be replicated by any other monument
in the world.
And for that reason, it's second from the top.
And my number one was before I went in and remains Berlin.
And if I had to take a break and go anywhere for a few days,
also Berlin, because the cost was contained,
became a more relaxed place.
I completely agree with you.
The hotel wasn't crazy expensive.
And everything seems 20% cheaper than this.
It was a little bit cheaper, yeah.
It felt like a very fair price
for the really high quality that you were getting.
So for that reason, Berlin is number one for me.
And as we end every episode with a round of good grades
with dark so too, we're going to get right into it,
which dark wants to give another guard,
and A grade for the winning moment of the episode.
- My A grade goes to dad.
He was so hilarious this episode.
He was so hilarious in Geneva.
And I had the best time with him,
exploring one of his favorite countries.
- I appreciate that.
I have to give my A grade to Dee Dee, to Zoya.
This girl, like, worked out everywhere she went.
She did not compromise on her health.
No matter the time zone, no matter the touch wood.
She had to work the previous night at the merge table
or in the show the next morning she got up and worked out.
- I'm going to do a dual A grade.
I'm going to want to dad because he's just killing
on these podcasts.
He's hilarious.
He's destroying it.
I also have to give my A grade to mom
because she funded the entire trip.
So everything that we're saying is only possible.
- Oh, yeah.
- I'm going to give you my actual A grade.
- Okay.
- A full A grade, not a dual A grade,
because usually you get really tired from shows
as you should because you're doing,
you're working so hard at these shows
that it's hard for you to be in a really good mood
outside of the shows, which makes sense.
None of us are mad about that.
But it felt like in Europe you were really open
to answering questions, which I haven't been able,
like I haven't seen from you in recent years
because of how hard you're working.
I'm trying to put this as nicely as possible.
I'm so laughing.
But I'm being, it's just, it's how it is.
I'm being honest.
- We were out of the house for 32 days, right?
- So for those 32 days, I'm not thinking about
is the dishwasher working?
- Yeah.
- Like when you're home,
no matter how much help you have in all,
I have 360 degrees concerns with everything
that's going wrong.
When you're in a hotel,
all that just is forced to stop.
So we're sitting and we're having one meal after another
at a table, what else are we going to do?
We're going to talk.
My A grade for this whole trip,
I'm going to give it to my team, my producer,
My, our logistics person, our whole team, because
The amount of logistics involved, you cannot fathom.
27 bags have to be transported from each location to each other location.
It's only possible because of our phenomenal producer.
Because of our logistics person who was on top of every flight, every check-in, every car.
In addition to our family, of course, who have every incentive to be part of it.
But I hope you enjoyed this very deep dive on six cities in Europe.
Tell us what's your experience in Europe, which city you would have like.
Where are you planning your next trip?
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Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The hosts share strong personal opinions on six European cities—London, Paris, Geneva, Amsterdam, Berlin, and Stockholm—highlighting cultural, culinary, and emotional experiences.
London stood out for its vibrant crowds, especially at live shows, and the hosts note the city’s historical significance, including the Magna Carta and the British royal system.
Paris is praised for its aesthetic charm, elegant people, and iconic landmarks like the Eiffel Tower, which glows at specific times, while the food was generally underwhelming despite expectations.
Geneva is described as stunning and peaceful, with a focus on excellent local cuisine and a unique cultural moment involving an eclipse viewing and a thrilling bike escape.
Amsterdam is noted for its striking canals and street fashion, but the overwhelming presence of aggressive bikers caused stress, while the red-light district is presented as a legally regulated, educational experience.
Berlin is highlighted as calm, spacious, and historically rich, particularly due to its Holocaust memorials and well-organized, peaceful urban environment.
Stockholm is celebrated for its minimalist beauty, strong social values, climate activism, and unique work-life balance, with early store closures reflecting cultural respect for employee hours.
The episode includes a promotional segment for Quince, promoting lightweight cashmere cardigans and emphasizing the brand’s neutral, timeless colors as essential wardrobe staples.
Summary:
The podcast features a detailed recap of a European tour across six cities: London, Paris, Geneva, Amsterdam, Berlin, and Stockholm. Each city is evaluated for its unique cultural, social, and culinary aspects. London impresses with its lively crowds and historical depth, while Paris is celebrated for its aesthetic charm and iconic landmarks—though food is described as underwhelming.
Geneva stands out for its scenic beauty, the rare eclipse viewing, and a thrilling bike escape. Amsterdam’s vibrant canals and street fashion are balanced by stressful biker culture and a unique visit to the legally regulated red-light district, presented as an eye-opening, educational experience. Berlin is praised for its spacious, peaceful atmosphere, rich history, and well-organized urban life.
Stockholm is highlighted for its minimalist design, strong social values, and commitment to work-life balance, with early store closures reflecting deep respect for employee wellbeing. Throughout, the hosts emphasize contrasts between European and American lifestyles, such as breakfast habits, fitness culture, and public behavior. The episode concludes with a promotional message for Quince, featuring lightweight cashmere cardigans as essential fall staples, and encourages listeners to support the show by subscribing.
The discussion reflects both personal experiences and broader cultural observations, offering a thoughtful, balanced view of European travel and societal values.
FAQs
The six cities are London, Paris, Geneva, Amsterdam, Berlin, and Stockholm.
They noted that the crowds in London were the largest and the shows were sold out, creating an energetic and joyful atmosphere they described as the best they've ever experienced.
They found the food in Paris to be underwhelming, especially compared to their expectations, though their producer and mother had strong positive opinions about it.
They rented a pedal boat and had an unexpected incident when their mother became upset and immediately got off, and later witnessed locals jumping into the lake, which they found both fun and concerning due to safety risks.
They described it as a legally regulated, visible, and tourist-friendly zone where sex work is openly conducted with security and protections, and they emphasized its cultural acceptance and educational value for families.
Berlin stood out for its spacious, organized, and peaceful atmosphere, especially in contrast to the crowded cities like London and Paris, and for its rich historical sites, including the Berlin Wall memorial.
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