"I released Junior H's first song ever" - DMG Bryan | Agushto Papa

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Listen to the Questlove show on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In 2023, Bachelor star Clayton Eckerd was accused of fathering twins, but the pregnancy appeared to be a hoax. You doctor this particular test twice in selling, correct? I doctor the test ones. It took an army of internet detectives to uncover a disturbing pattern. Two more men who'd been through the same thing. Regal, let's be honest, Michael Manchini. My mind was blown. I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trap. Laura, Scott Stil Police. As the season continues, Laura Owens finally faces consequences. Listen to Love Trap podcast on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. An artist hits me up. And I hear what's up, bro. I want to start my artist career. I just don't know where to start. I'm like, "What's your artist name?" Oh, yeah, my artist name is Juniracche. This is Juniracche's first song ever. I f*cking cried because this is my f*cking dream and my dreams got shattered right in front of me. And I don't blame it on Juniracche. It was more on false promises. How did Nivelle and what's in me here take this? I was like, "I don't remember, man, I mean." Because I remember then going on podcast and talking to myself about me. Which I understand, bro. I don't blame any of these guys. I've heard rumors that their contract is about to end with a label out there. I'll say, no matter what you get offered out there, Troy, Brian, Jeffrey, Abelito, Almighty, I promise you. I'll be fine. (Music) (Music) Oh, yeah, man. (Music) Okay, there. What's up, guys? Welcome back to another Agush Top of Our Podcast. If you guys are new to this channel, make sure you guys like, comment, and subscribe. Listen to us on the I Heart Radio app or wherever you listen to your podcast. Today, guys, we have a special guest. A first time from Texas, CEO of DMG, Brian. (Applause) Hey, I want to say a first thought. Thank you guys for having me here. Angel, Diego, Jason. I really appreciate it. I was talking to you guys earlier. This is my second podcast. So, thank you guys for the opportunity. I appreciate it. Thank you, bro. Honestly, it's honored to have you here. I think something that we all have in common is that we love music. Obviously, you know, you've been in the game for a long time. And can you tell us, you know, how do you feel about being in this music? I mean, he kind of seemed that kind of like, recently blew up. Man, it feels good. And it also feels good that I'm literally in a room that people, like, you guys are literally my age. Like, we're around the same age. I'm 26. You're 25. 25. I'm 25, yeah. I have a real question for you guys all. Like, for real. What age do you think is unxtatus? Like, what is a unxtatus for you guys? You already call us unxtatus, bro. Bro, I know. That's what I'm saying. I think unxtatus is like 30. I think like five or no. I'm gonna say 28, bro. (Laughter) That's too much summer, buddy. But, but, yeah. Maybe 30. I don't know. Yeah, it just depends on what you're talking to because my little cousins that are like, eight, they probably think I'm like, fucking Santa Claus and the one wearing a shit. (Laughter) With the presence in shit. That gives this man a cane. Man. Yeah, but thank you so much for being here. Of course. I think there's a few things that we gotta talk about, but I can't precisely principle about that. I think about that. You know, for the people, a lot of people know you, for the people that don't, you know, you have my telling us your name, where you're from, and what did you start? Alright, guys. So, my name is DMG Brian. Well, Brian, some people call me DMG Brian, some people call me DMG, some people call me Brian, and Mexican, they call me B. I think that's like a thing over there, Mexican, they call me B. Which I think like, I don't know, sounds like a girl name. But, I'll take it. I got started in music, honestly young as fuck, bro. I got started in music when I was realistically, okay, so my dad plays the bass. It took up a little bit, he started like, bro, since he was, since before he had me, bro. And I started officially in like 2014, 2015, when I was like, 14, 15, but I eat. And I started because my dad, he's like, hey, like, I mean, he's like, hey, get this, you don't know to cut that. And honestly, I was a mama's boy at the time. So, I'm like, no, I want to be with my mom. And he's like, the pago, I'm like, oh, word. We all the same. The mama me just went away once he heard cash. I'm like, oh, word. And he's like, the pago. And I'm like, you know, he's like, just use my career as a coach and then to set up the equipment. And I'm like, all right, I'm down. So, that's what I would do. I'll go to his to-cadas and I'll just sit there. I'll help him do all that. I wasn't fan of music. But that's because I was only introducing to Cumbias. It was a Cumbia group or like, people bring these music. I mean, I don't, I don't judge. It's not my bread and butter. It's not what I love. I mean, I don't mind it. Honestly, now that I get older, I listen to my damn. Now I know what my parents look with this shit. It's not an age. It's a mindset. When you like to open this, yeah. Well, bro. I'll take the link. So, what happened? I would get bored. I was young as fuck. I told you guys. I was like 14. Maybe 13. 14 for me. But I, and then I would like, so now that I was there, I would grab the chairs. It was, I didn't have a phone back then, right? I was, I mean, 14, 13. But like, it wasn't that common for maybe, I don't know. I don't know. I just, I didn't have a phone at that time. And I mean, I wouldn't, I would just have no choice but to sit there and look at the group polls actually playing. And so, I got introduced into new genres of music. Like, for example, one of the group polls is called Oron Norteño. I don't know if you guys have heard of Oron Norteño. It's a song that I can say, "I like to dance." "If you don't like it." I don't know if you guys have heard of Oron Norteño. And so, I would be there and I heard it and I see the accordion. I'm like, "Holy shit." This is like, "Corrito." This is like, some nice, like, I don't know, I fucked with it. And so, I kept going and he, like, they would be like, on stage with, like, there would be, like, events like Harry Peos, Violets, stuff like that. And then he would go like, "Migueli Miguel." And that's when I got introduced into the music. And I'd be like, "Holy shit, corriose como sonoresos o haso negros." You know, obviously, the OG songs. And I'd be like, "No, mom." And he's like, "This is, I love this." And that's when I told my dad, "Dad, dad." "Yeah." Like, "Because he was already disappointed me because I told him I didn't want to get into music." But I'm like, "Dad, honestly, Quero una cordión." I want an accordion. I want to learn how to play accordion. And he's like, "No, no, te creo." So, like, and so I'm like, "All right, well, I'll buy me a cheap one at least." Like, a thousand dollar one. Which, honestly, it's. (speaking Spanish) I don't know. (laughing) Ya sé no, de mi, a small loan of $1,000,000. No, no, no. It's a. It's a courtyn. Right? There's like, "Honors." Like, the basic honours. Then there's like, "A vannelli, the cabanelli is like the big dog with honor." "Comasima pinches." "Otra es marca, bolpola." I think, I don't know, a whole bunch of brands. And me compro un cabanelli in Ortenio, which is like the intro, the baby version, which is like literally used a thousand bucks. So, you'll get one used. And so, honestly, I really appreciate my debt for this. He would pay for my classes to learn a courtyn. And so, he bought me the courtyn. He helped me pay for the classes. Of course, this is something that I was keeping in mind even till now. Like, honestly, if it wasn't. And there's a lot of things. If it wasn't for my parents, a lot of things that lined up if it wasn't for God, I wouldn't literally be where I'm at. and I'll tell you guys more about that later. So he would pay for my classes and he would take me to, well my mom would take me to my teacher. Yeah, he would learn how to play the accordion, poco a poco and all that. Nowadays people learn on YouTube and they learn fast as fucks. Honestly, you don't even need a fucking teacher. I heard like Ramon actually did that. I saw one of his podcasts with interviews with Pepe, who taught him, who taught him, he learned on YouTube. And he's like, "Hey, what do you want? "You're all so good on YouTube." I'm ticked on what he's saying. But in my days, I don't fucking know. Maybe there was, there was tutorials. So that's where I learned some songs. Anyways, I learned and then eventually, I started going to Los Tucadas. I would go play the accordion and I'd go to the engineers. So I'd get paid my 150, my 200 bucks. And I'll be happy with that. And that's my niches and the music. Later on, eventually after doing that, when I was 16 and then when I was doing 17, at 18, at 18, 17. So look, I graduated high school in 2017. For those of you who know, and I want to tell you guys this, so you probably born in 2000, right? 2000, 2000, bro. Imagine fucking people asking if they're a little kid, right? A little kid, let's say, five, six, seven year old. Man, even the teenagers now, they're savages. So let's say you even tell them, you're born, like what year were you born? You're like 2000s, you're like, okay, you're cool, right? Bro, I tell them, I was born in 1999. Like, I'm like a 90s kid. So it's like, holy shit, like, I think I'm gonna fuck. Yeah. That is the same thing, bro. Honestly, it was same for him, he's a, he's a 1999. You're like, oh, you're not part of our juniors, you're like, damn, like. I know, bro. That's the cutting cost in. I know. So that was okay. So 17, alright, I graduated in 17. And after high school, I got a job, well keep in mind, during this whole time before I got into music, I think you guys should know what I would do before. Like I said, playing bass is one of them. I would also, I don't know, I've always been a hustler. It's just something that, I mean, look, my dad came here without papers. So did my mom. I don't know about you guys. I'm pretty sure most of us have the same stories. We have parents that come here without papers. They're here, scared for them. And you know, unfortunately people still, that's all happens right now. So I look at my dad, I look at my mom, and one thing is that I know they went through hell. I know they went through a lot, especially my dad's telling me stories of being homeless of him having a gather of poems and selling them of him. Obviously, like a lot of Hispanic parents working the fields. That's something that's always hit me deep down. And I look at him and I'm like, bro, I can't let this shit go for granted. I have to do something for myself. I have to. I have no choice. My dad did all this. My dad risked his life. My dad left my grandma. Nah, it's too early on to be getting emotional. What the fuck? Nah, but it's just like, it's just like story, Rose. It's sorry. It's because like, no, mom is like, think of all the fucking shit that our parents went through. And but I know that I feel like it's a people, like a disrespect. It's a disrespect. It's like a, it is a disrespect. I was gonna say this, Grace. I don't know that's the right, right where, but it's like literally a disrespect to your parents. They brought you here for the best life. And you're literally just gonna stay at home. I mean, I have nothing with smoking weed, but if you're, that's all you're gonna do. Be at home, smoke weed, play video games, and let your parents work their ass off until they fucking die. I think that's a disgrace. I think that's, like, come on, man. Like, and if it hates you, bro, I'm sorry. Like, so the people watching, I'm sorry. And like, it's just, you gotta think about it, man. Our parents are gonna be here for a limited amount of time. I'm telling you this 'cause, like I said, I'm 26, thank God, my parents are still alive. And, and yeah, man, like, anyways. So that's why, that's why I was a hustler. Working in the fields, right, picking blueberries. My bestie, now, across the street, when I was like 16, she was so torta, so I go to her house in the morning. I go make the tortuers with her, and then we'll go to the fields and we'll go sell them. After we were done selling them, then we'd go back into picking blueberries. It was usually blueberries. I worked more of the blueberries. In Oregon, that's where we have a lot. Oh yeah, for the people that don't know, shout out to my Oregon people, shout out to my 503. Honestly, that's where I was born in Salem, Oregon. Man, that's where I belong. As throughout the years, man, I moved to Houston. And, dude, thankfully, ever since I first went to Houston, I'm gonna tell you guys this. I don't think a lot of people know this. Like, I moved to Austin, well, I moved to Houston. Literally, bro, I might sound like a symbol for a girl. Like, I moved there because of her. No, I know, I know. I moved there because of her girl. And whenever anyone would ask me, why'd you go to Houston? I'm like, oh, 'cause you have better tax benefits or, oh, 'cause you don't have a-- That was a huge issue. That was a huge issue. You know, all those excuses. But no, it was because of a fucking girl. Like, it was because of the girl I flew there. And ever since I went there, I met a couple people. Like, I met me from Pamarro and I met, actually, I did a deal out there when I went another wreck label out there. You know, as some compa, shout out to the compa Andy. We sold an artist over there like in 2020. Man, I'm going back and forth in the time. I don't know, that's cool with you guys, but-- So we did deals over there. And ever since I got there, people there have treated me like with so much love, man. I think in Oregon, it's just so small. There's not really-- So before I actually went there, the Corridor scene wasn't as big as it is now. Like, even the Takwachi scene back in 2020. That's because there was nobody knowing over there. Nobody, like, no, no groups, groups. I said, I'm going to fucking-- I can't make so much Spanish in English. Thank you. No, no, no, there were groups. Exactly, there was English. And then, I think the only ones were literally in Oregon in my time, bro. I don't think there was anybody, bro. But think again, this was 2016, 2017, 2018. I just was in Pena Sen Pesamolo, that was Corridor's Verdes. But anyways, going back to me working in the fields-- hey, by the way, I don't know if you guys could tell, but I do have ADHD. For the people that don't know what ADHD is that, you're kind of-- I wouldn't consider a weakness because thanks to that, it's like, you get creative as fuck. It's like, you're basically-- so whenever some people say, oh, I get creative when I smoke. And that's when I know how to write music and all that shit. I'm creative, I think, just by birth. And a good way and a bad way, because that also means to focus, it's pretty hard, bro. You bounce from one thing to another. So in the interview of you guys, you're like, what the fuck, this guy is bouncing from one thing to another thing? I'm not going to blame it on him, but I think it's like a-- it's like a person of blessing, man. I don't know, it's a person of blessing. I actually read a book that was talking about how it's called-- fuck, I got to think of the name. Something about how psychopaths think and why they do what they do. And in that book, it actually said that every single thing like depression, anxiety, ADHD, those are-- yes, they sound like they're bad things, but they all have a benefit to them. For example, one of the things is anxiety. Back in the days, cavemen, they would-- you would have to run for fucking dinosaurs, whatever, I don't know, man. I don't know. [LAUGHTER] I don't know the history teacher. Is she like that? You'd have to be fighting, always in fight-to-fight mode. So when you had anxiety, these guys would make better decisions. Like, oh, wait, maybe it's not good to go there, because you would over think, you're like, oh, shit, I'm my fucking guy there. So same thing with ADHD, with ADHD. Like, yeah, you might not be focused. Yeah, you might be jittery. But you're also more creative. So it comes with a blessing, man. And so that was just like a little sino on top of what I was going to say. So like I said, for like the fifth time, I come from a family-- we have from family of immigrants. And before I started the music, like I said, blueberry-- [MUSIC PLAYING] In 2023, former bachelor star Clayton Eckerd found himself at the center of a paternity scandal. The family court hearings that followed revealed glaring inconsistencies in her story. This began a years-long court battle to prove the truth. You doctored this particular test twice in selling, correct? I doctored the test once. It took an army of internet detectives to crack the case. I wanted people to be able to see what their tax dollars were being used for. Some like the greatest disinfectant. They would uncover a disturbing pattern-- two more men who'd been through the same thing. Greg, a lesbian, Michael Mare and Cheney. My mind was blown. I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trap. Laura, Scottsdale Police. Ladies and gentlemen, breaking news at America of the county as Laura Owens has been indicted on fraud charges. This isn't over until Justice has served in Arizona. Let's go! Our I Heart Radio musical awards are coming back. Thursday, March 26th, live on Fox. Posted by Wootacriff's. Icon Award recipient, John Mellon Cam. Innovator Award recipient, Miley Cyrus. With performances by Alex Warren, K-Lani, Lainey Wilson, Lidicrous, Wray, TLC, Shalton Pepper, and Envoke. ♪ And I wanna remember, remember, remember ♪ ♪ What I'm on it from there ♪ Plus Taylor Swift to make her first award show appearance this year. ♪ I cry, I smile ♪ ♪ It's the best day, ladies ♪ ♪ I'm here for real, deep, deep, deep ♪ ♪ It's for all of us ♪ Also Gold Medal Olympian, Alessaloo, Neo, Nicole Scherzinger, Nikki. - Hey there, this is Josh from Stuff You Should Know, with a message that could change your life. The Stuff You Should Know Think Spring Podcast playlist is available now, whether spring is sprung in your neck of the woods yet or not. The Stuff You Should Know Think Spring playlist will make you want to come back to the show and play a few more games. The Stuff You Should Know Think Spring playlist will make you want to get your overalls on, get outside and get your hands in the dirt. You can get the Stuff You Should Know Think Spring playlist on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. - Good people, what's up, what's up? It's Questlove. So recently I had the incredible opportunity to have a real conversation with actors and producer Jamie Lee Curtis ahead of the release of our new thriller series, Scarpetta. I can honestly say I've never done an interview like that before, you know, at one point I shut my laptop down. And we just started chatting as old friends, recent Oscar recipient. So we have some commonality there. I predict that by the way. - And you said these words to me. Dust off your mantle. - Yes. - And I looked at you and I said, "What?" And you said, dust off your mantle. - Mm-hmm. - And then I left and that was it. And then when all of that happened, I remember the next morning, I think I wanted to like write you and go, "How did you know?" - Listen to the Questlove show or the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. - Here's Selling Tortas. And I remember selling tacos. Matter of fact, I don't really see the picture. I'm a profile. - Yeah, I see. - So I would sell tacos. That same lady, which was my neighbor, she would take me to Haddie Bells. And I would go over there and sell tacos. And then, they would put me to make tacos, they would put me to make raspados, manganidades, all that. And you know, I'd be cajero. So I would work all that stuff. But honestly, I would like to go work the taquero or the like, with her, 'cause I'd go work at Haddie Bells. And I would get in for free. And I would get in like right there. So I'm like, "Okay, bet." And one of those times, I'm never gonna forget this. It's gonna be a memory that I'm always gonna keep. And actually, I haven't counted it all in. I've very met him like, all right, a couple times in person. But, I don't know how I did it, bro. There was a group going backstage, right? And I snuck in with that group, right? I think I was like, "Medio shift." And I snuck in with that little group backstage, you know? I think they were about to play. And they let me in, nobody said nothing. And I saw the RV that kind of just like, they just finished playing. And they was right there. So I went up to the security guard. He just closed the door and I went up to him. Or the driver. And I said, "Hey, stop in here with the one-off photo-quenayos." And he said, "Well, I gotta go ask him." So he went back inside and keeping in mind they were done playing. And he went back inside and he came back out. He said, "Hey, they said it coming." And they let me inside of the RV. "Hey, I still have a module." "Everyone from the Stukana is there." And they were so humble. Like, "Let me take a picture." And I'm like, for them to like still let me in the RV and still let me come with me with them. That's a memory man. Like, I'm never gonna forget. They're legends, bro. Yeah, they're legends. So what happened? I don't know, it was like, it was me. You know, I saw it. Oh, yeah, 'cause we had to just talk to a Caesar about it. And he was telling us how like, he never leaves a person without a. Like, he never said no. He goes all the way to the end. Like, everybody that wants to take a picture. That's what they said, those two guys? Yeah, bro, they proved they're right there. Yeah, and all of you. You're proving the story that they were saying. Literally, literally. And I'm never gonna forget that man. Like, I think that's one of the life-changing moments from me. 'Cause at that time, I was already getting introduced into careers. Like I said, Miguel y Miguel, los Tucanos de Tijuana, lo que era tipo. I think those were like the two main ones. Miguel y Miguel, number one always. Ah, los cuates decinarlo, I don't know if you guys know them. And then right there, so you were learning to play the accordion and then that you decide you wanted to be like an artist or where did you shift into, hey, you know, like maybe. Or what. Yeah, like what. The lack of music that you wanna. Yeah. Want to take? The reason I got into music, so after I did all those jobs, I had a last job, actually second or last, which was working in an office job, right? I would, whenever you go register a business in Oregon, I would be basically the one that registered. Registra, que te lo rejista, o que te lo renova. That's kind of where I learned a little bit on the business side. And at the same time, like, it was only supposed to be like a summer job, like a internship, right? It was right after high school. And I would do that. And like midway, I started a channel on a soundcloud. I feel like I'm skipping out on a couple things. But basically, yeah, I started a channel on soundcloud. And on that channel, I only started it. It's so funny, man, 'cause that channel's the reason I got, like, I found in your age, or me lo presentaron. It's that, 'cause I was in that job, and then, I always liked the music I was telling you, right? Korean playin' all that. And then, there'd be music on. There'd be music on YouTube, right? Before people, I don't know, for some reason, they would not upload on platforms that much. And the guy that would upload them, it was Mexican music. And oh, wait, Mexican music, junior music. I think I know Mexican music, maybe. I don't know, short term compado. But for sure, it was junior music, Korean music. Those are like the OG days. If you know about that, like, you know. Like, those are like the underground shit. I think Mexican music was one that upload the guitar too, right? The guitar? Like, I love the ones that make me run. I think it was under Mexican music. I think it was. I'm not sure, I'm not sure. I don't know. I'm pretty sure it was one of those channels. Yeah, it was on the ground channel. So, yeah. And I would hear this music, and it's sort of like small bands, right? And I'm like, what the fuck? I love this song. Why is it not on the platforms? And whenever you lock your phone, the music's off playing, right? But when I would go cut the grass, like, am I parents? That's the reason you move to SoundCloud, that's crazy. I know that. Or you get an ad. No, my method. It's because people might not really know back then. But I don't know. I feel like I don't even know about YouTube. I mean, I know about YouTube. I don't know about Apple music. I feel like YouTube was the main way to listen to shit. But like you said, you couldn't lock the phone and continue to do it. And then also, I thought that you had to pay for it. And I was like, I don't even have money or a card or anything. So I had to be YouTube. And then that was fucking annoying. Because you would have to keep touching the screen, but I can also add a power. Yeah. Or I feel like a lot of us were just so young that we just didn't have money. I'm like, Apple music. Not so young, we're just so old. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, but we're definitely on set. We're definitely on set. No, but it's crazy. Because people, everything that you're saying, just randomly asked about the on set is like it just comes back to proving we might be that. Everybody's like, what the fuck? You know, Apple music? Yeah, because also nobody might not even know about SoundCloud, bro. No, no, no, no. It's not going to be fun. But they do. But maybe a concept that you guys don't know people watching is artists. Now you see artists like they upload their music to their own channels and the channels of the record label they're in. But back then it was like different channels that just kind of had like those views, those likes that engagement. So if you were an up and coming artist and nobody knew about you and you upload your songs. Yeah, you upload your songs to your own thing. Like you might get a thousand views or whatever, but you uploaded to one of these like big, established channels. You would get a lot more exposure. So that was like a super common practice back in the day. Yeah. I don't think it is that much. That was the way to promote the song. That was the way to go back then. Yeah, but I think it was so cool because it was like those OG underground pages like Mexican music in junior and all of those. Yeah. And then there was like, oh, only the famous ones are going to get uploaded to like Jose Valerama and like Beto Sierra. Beto Sierra. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Jose Valerama and Beto Sierra, OG's as far as I totally forgot about that. But it's just such an important part of music. So you switched to sound. So you said. Yeah. So I was in sound cloud and I would only I would hear like guerrillas music and they would upload music. And I'm like, why isn't not on like Apple music or actually Spotify. I don't even know if it was a thing. But it why is it not on Spotify? Oh, you fuck. Actually, I wanted to do you guys something. I wanted to tell them something. I asked them something like for real for real. What age you guys think is unceded like I want to be like I want to hear you guys is like on the comments. I want to hear you guys. What age is unceded like 26? Please say 30 plus. 40 plus. Yeah. Someone cooked you for a hot recipe. I'm a little trauma. I'm a trauma. I'm a trauma. You're a trauma. No, no. Nah. And then says. And I started on sound cloud and that's the only reason I would upload it. Because I couldn't lock my phone and I'll cut the grass or. Yeah, I think I think I started at the gym whatever it was. I couldn't lock my phone. That's the point. So I would lock it. It wouldn't play. So I'm like, you know what? On sound cloud, I couldn't upload anything. So let me upload a song that I want so I can listen to it. Right? For some reason it was public and right. I would see like, oh, you're like two plays, three plays. But I only did it for me at the like, to be started. I only did it because I love music. I love that type of music. And so I would upload music, right? And I think one day came one day when like I just I was like doing the same thing. I honestly didn't see how many songs from it upload. I think it was like three four. And I think the sixth. I have a channel. I don't know what channel the net. I think it was. I think it was. Junior music. I think. I'm not 100% sure. It's a damage crew. One of those battles. I don't know if you guys remember damage crew. That's also another old G Channel. So one of those battles was a guitar career. The song was called. I don't know, it was the monster. And I'm like, I fuck with this, let me put it to my channel. So, that's what I did. And honestly, that shit grew fucking fast, that's fuck. So honestly, when I was on the channel, it was in big yet. But when I up, it was monstrosiete. And then from there, I fuck with him a lot, and then I kept uploading like, fuck, I don't even know, I don't even know how many songs it was, but like, I fuck with him that much. And well, as he started growing, like, I don't know if it was like, 'cause a YouTuber, 'cause a soundcloud, but it blew up on both sides on soundcloud and YouTube. And so he started blowing up. And that's when my channel started blowing up. So, it was weird, 'cause I wouldn't upload him, like, not unless it is, I would also upload Obviously, we know, you know, he's a goat. So, uploaded, I'm baske is before he was like, no, all these artists, when they were like, still underground, I fuck with him, I'm like, bad, let me upload it, 'cause I can't look my fucking phone. And I needed to listen to his music. And yeah, that's how my channel started growing on soundcloud. And at the time, I was already doing like, I said, I was working in an office job, so I'll do like that part time. And it got, my channel got so big, I think it was like the second one, or the first, I think it was like, the first biggest soundcloud channel in regional Mexican at the time, like I said, YouTube and Soundcloud was a shit back then. Well, at least Soundcloud, I think YouTube still is a shit. But- Wait, was Soundcloud paying for like the streams or- At first, it wasn't. So, it was kinda like YouTube. You can have to get monetized. Oh, okay. So, once I got monetized, I was making a little bit of money, like, $100, $200, right? But I never did it because they were paying. I only did it because, genuinely, for the love of music, like, $200 is cool. But for me, I'm always the love of music. And we'll get more into that, until like, why say, the love of music? It's never been about the money. I have a strong believer if you do something and you're consistent with it, that any do it for the passion, and you truly believe in it, the money will eventually come, bro. Like, you gotta, people go into shit, like thinking, yeah, I'ma go in this, thinking I'ma make money right, fucking away. And going with that mentality already, of making money. It's a long journey before you make money, yeah? Yeah, yeah, as you obviously, like, if we need to do it for fun, and then you're doing it, right? Everyone starts to, how did you guys start? Did you guys start as a hobby, or did you guys know what you guys were gonna do? - Whoa, I feel like we can have like a similar story. So we started off as a group first. Like, we were in a band. - Oh shit, really? - I think it was like 2016. And then also have like a similar story from you. Like, I forgot that I also uploaded music that I wanted to listen to on SoundCloud. - Oh, fuck. - And then like, my page was actually growing. I don't know if I ever told you. - You were probably my comp, you were my op. - You were my op. - I think it was the second biggest on SoundCloud. - I felt like underground, something. But I used to upload music from J3S, which was, I think it was the first art that's sent to Stringer. - Yeah. - But it was just on YouTube. So I would have run to SoundCloud too. - I didn't know that. So you guys were a group, and then eventually, you guys were like, let's talk our shit, and then it started as like a hobby. - We, whoa. - We actually try to make it like, and the music industry, like our dream was to get signed by fucking you name a Rancho del, like all the big companies. - It didn't work out, 'cause-- - It didn't work out, it didn't work out. - It's all a talent show that you guys did for Del. I saw the picture. - That part off. (laughing) - Now kidding, but, so yeah, we started the group, and I felt like we were doing pretty good, 'cause I felt like there wasn't so much competition here, you know? - Yeah. - It wasn't that serious. - Especially like in our area, we would have all the gigs, like Friday Saturday Sunday, and we never really had like a real job. I mean, we didn't have real jobs, but most of the money came from music. But, you know, like, we fell off with the singers, obviously like the singers sometimes, it's like, they think they're like the best ones, and then we were like, fuck, I'm just the bassist, just that I came to, like, so I went down for like a long time, but then we got to the point where we're like, now we can do this, and I was like, hey, Jason, let's start the podcast, you know? Like, kinda like, Puppet, Puppet's Office? - Yeah, Puppet's Office. - Like in English, and then from there, which is like, - Yeah, there was no like, oh, you know, we're gonna get money off of this. - I mean, I think at that time, people were still being criticized for like, listening to the music. All right, guys, we're back from the break. So Brian, as we were saying, your SoundCloud channel blows up, how do you get in contact with Junior Atchi? - So my SoundCloud blew up, right? A guy, shot to my boy, his name's Felix, he reached out to me, he said, hey, I have an artist that he's, he wants to start straight from zero, right? And then says, I'm like, yeah bro, send him my way, send him my way, send him my Instagram, and then, you know, an artist hits me up. And I, what's up bro? Like, what's up? Like, he's like, I wanna start his career, but I wanna start my artist career. I'm like, yeah, I brought help, you know, I'll help you promote and all that stuff. I'm like, what's your artist name? It's the way he's saying, oh yeah, my artist name is Junior Atchi. And you know, it's funny, it was actually spelled H-A-C-H-E. So it was in Junior Atchi. It's like, literally literally Junior Atchi. - It's spelled the Atchi, yeah. - Yeah, it was spelled the Atchi. So, that's what happened, man, I'm like, yeah, let's do it. And then we started working together. He actually, the first song that we actually released, like I said, we, I wouldn't work platforms back then. I would do like SoundCloud. And then eventually came the YouTube. So it was a song, "Siamaba" los de los Westbricks. I don't know what that means, but that's what it was called. That song was recorded. I think it was on his phone, bro. - And then you said he could be with a song. You said that's the song that you uploaded. The first song you uploaded, or was that the first song you came with? - That's the first song I helped him upload. So it was the first song I helped him upload. And that song, I think he recorded on his phone. I think I still have it. But it was so, I'll show it to you guys later. It was so, I don't know if he recorded on his phone, or he was just, it was like, I see no mask, como lo grabó, pero era así no más hecho, he's like, we uploaded for a day. And he's like, no, no, he's like, let's take it down. Let's take it down. I don't like the way it sounded. So we took it down, and then that's when we started uploading new music. For example, another of those contciones, obviously one of the golden ones, - No, he. - Yeah, I don't think I got to upload, no he cambiado, but it was definitely the Chevy. And that's when I started uploading the channel on YouTube. The Chevy, the Zemorro. I started with that day. Matter of fact, I remember, I saw a picture of my Snapchat bro. I would like be like seeing videos of me recording, 'cause I had to teach myself how to record and all that stuff. I'll tell you guys some more about that later. But eventually I remember when Nuecan Bialo hit 500 K streams on YouTube. Before that though, when I was working with, I like, when I was, like, Stone Associations, he's like, hey, Compa, I like you. I want you to be my manager, like, hey, Compa, I'm down. And then he's a A, bro. And that's where my core of the content is to play. I don't know if you guys have heard it. It's not like, it's not his first album. - That's one of my favorite songs. - Really? Yeah, so it was, it was that was the C9. And that's what happened. And then from there, I became his manager. And it came to the day where he's like, a label hit him up. And then he's like, hey, deal with my manager. And so I was his manager at the time. And it was like, A, bro, I want to sign him. Like, all right, send me the contract. And keep it, my bro. I was, I was, I was only dealing with SoundCloud. I was like, I was not honestly prepared to be a manager. So like, that should maybe be your honest bro. I mean, fuck, I was 18, 19. But he's, I'm like, all right, babe. All right, so he's like, all right, I'm a fly. I want to fly him to a lay. I want to fly you guys to a lay. So that's when he flew, I flew to Generator's house and he picked me up. You know what's so funny? Like, I flew there like a day before, maybe like two days things like a day, day and a half before, whatever it was. Like the day I landed, like, it was almost like a day, bro. We literally went to like, Jack in the box and the wear of other clothes. And we got, Jack in the box, Japan Express, one of those. And we got like two food bowls. And then we went to like a viewpoint. (laughing) It was not what it seems. It was not what it seems. It was like, you're living in the grocery. It was not what it seemed. So we went to a viewpoint. And we were just talking. I'm like, I don't know where they're. (laughing) Fuck. Oh, that's crazy. All right, all right. Oh, I'm not blushing. Anyways, so we went to, I don't know what to say. (laughing) We went to the viewpoint and we talked. And I remember like, we were bumpy music at the time. You know what song was bumping, bro? Well, I don't know if it was a little silly. Or other people's like from that, like from that little, like that time, it was that type of music that we were bumping. And yeah, so we went and then I was stood over at his house. He introduced me to his dad. I don't know if I met his mom. I met his sister and we stayed in bunk beds and in his room. And he knew it's so funny. The first time, I don't smoke weed. But like I never smoked weed until like A, A, Ray, like a lapisair or something like that. I don't know why I accidentally told him, I'm like, no, I'm never. And it's like being on the bunk bed, I'm like, top, he's like, all right, it's gonna be your first time. And I took a hit and I, I actually remember it's so clear to you. I took a hit and I was like laying down. I'm like, he's like, seeing this animal? I'm like, no way. (laughing) He's like, what? He's like, yeah, I'm like, am I all right? He said, "I met a closure eyes and I was closing my eyes and I'm just there in silence." He's just watching me. He's like, "Los y'en to the way?" "No way." "No, lox y'en to the way." He's like, "What the fuck?" And yeah, that was my first experience. I don't think I ever, I don't think I've even thought of anything. And where did he live up? Because you flew in from Oregon. From Oregon to where? To. Well. It's like Utah, no? Huh? To Utah. So I flew in to Utah to Salt Lake. And then from there. Has he already said where he's from? Provo. So that's where he was staying at the time. I don't fucking know where he's staying. But like, at the time he picked me from the airport. We went to Provo to his house. Like I said, I met all his people. Viewpoint blah blah. The next day we flew out and we went to. To me with the rec label. And that's where kind of the thing comes in about my rec label, you know? At the time, I only wanted to be a road manager. Why did I want to be a road manager? Because my plan in my head was to do events. So I wanted to host events. I wanted to get all these like, views, road managers. So I can meet these people and eventually bring him on events and eventually do my own events. So that was what I initially wanted. Okay, so I go over there and then this direct label basically. I made sure to ask him on the phone call before I flew to LA. I'm like, "Hey, which I want to see now I don't have no beef with him." I mean, we talked and now that I put myself in a business perspective, I know why things played out the way they did. So I'm like, I'm so thankful that everything happened the way they did because, honestly, if I didn't. If things didn't play out the way they did, DMG wouldn't have helped these artists grow from the channel, from the artists from both sides. So what happened is before I went to LA, I made sure I got on the call and I said, "I'm down, we're down to sign, but on one condition, that condition is for me to be the road manager." And he said, "Yeah, come on, fuck it, I'm not like, yeah, no, I'm not paying, we'll make it happen." I'm like, "All right, I'm down for that." And I'm like, "All right, but I'm done with flight of LA." It would have been nice. It would have been nice if he would have gone my flight from Oregon straight to Provo and Utah, but I mean, I think that's me asking for too much. So even though I had a little bit of money at the time, I got my money, flew over there, then we flew, he got my flight from Provo or from Salt Lake to LA, and then we went with the label, right? And I remember getting there, he picked us up from there, we went to Goe, we got settled down at the hotel, I still have a video at that hotel where we're like, kind of like, stop in the way, stop in the chulo, and we're doing our thing because here I show that night. So the itinerary was, and that LA trip was to record one of the songs, because it was called "Una Chiena Cinquenta." Have you heard that song? Oh, when it was like with the white background and the change? Yeah, "Una Chiena Cinquenta." The plan was also to sign, actually before anything, and he also had, to me, with a trucking group, to do promo for his songs, and nothing for the event, but I think it was for the songs. And then he had an event later that night, so it was a real busy day. So we got to a hotel, then we went to office, which this guy comes into play later. It's very important that we keep in mind. We went to some guy's office. And that's where he signed, right? I went there, and I made sure to ask the guy, "Hey, so, all right, I'm going to be his role manager." He's like, "Yeah, we're very good." All right, he signs, okay? He signs, boom, boom, boom. Did he sign with the lawyer at the time, or was it just him? No, he signed, it was just him. And when I get more into the business side of this podcast, I think it's very important you have to have a lawyer, bro. You always have to have a fucking lawyer. When I sign an artist, I'm like, "Hey, I don't care how many times you have to read that contract, read it one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight times. I want you to give it to your mom. I want you to give it to your dad. I want you to give it to your dog. And I want you to give it a fucking lawyer." And I told him, "Lid on the phone, call now." I told him on the phone, "Before we do anything, "fore there's a contract involved." I'm like, "Hey, but I want you to give it to him. "I'll grab you, grab you, grab you, "and you know, if they're young, 17, 18, 19, whatever, "I want you to give it to your dad, "because I've had problems in the past. "I do a contract, I don't read it, and then there's problems." It's what I don't want. I think that's what I want. I don't want to ask you a question. What the fuck am I going to do making a contract? What the fuck? I barely-- if I saw a comment, you know, I'm one of the videos. It said, hey, they were young. They signed that because they don't know what they were signing. You know, one or not. One or not. What they are signing. And then I broke what the fuck? I was like, I don't want to say that-- I don't want to sound like a victim. I hate something like a victim. I don't want to say that because that's the only way I'll feel I'll grow. If I learn from mistakes, I take responsibility. And I do better in the future. So anyways, going back to that, he signs. There's those people in that room. He signs. And boom, we go off to go-- I think that's where we go to go to the event. I don't know what's to the event. I think it was to go do the music video. Oh, no, not the music video. Sorry. They did the song recording. And then we went to do the promo. I'm trying to remember if it was like two days that I stayed there at one. And it's point is we went to the event, right? And I remember asking him before the event, the label guy. Now that he signed, I'm like, hey, so I can't be his real manager, right? And he's like, welcome. But let's see how the event does later tonight. You know? Let's see how it does. These people that you're talking about, the label is Grand Record. And then you said to someone preparing the contract. Was that George Pratheen? No. I never said the label name first of all. Oh, no, no, no. No, you didn't say he was just-- Yeah, like I was just-- I guess. Yeah, I guess. It was him. But like I said, I don't blame him. From a business side, when an artist is young, there's so much budget you have to work with, right? Because at the end of the day, it's a risk. You can't-- let's say you have a brand new artist, right? You don't know what's going to happen with him. You don't have in the budget. It's not like he needs-- he's not going to be touring. Why would he need a role manager, right? Or why would he need a PR if he's barely starting? Do you feel it was kind of like dishonest because maybe-- Well, maybe-- I do feel like it was dishonest. But you thought it was like super like sure that he was going to pop out. He was going to go on tours. Of course, he needs a tour manager. And then I don't know where like after they see that signature. You know, that's just not bad. Maybe they're like-- Yeah. I was going to have to get that guy to come on. Maybe I had so much faith in this artist that I already knew he was going to be big. That's why I wanted to be a role manager. So you already knew like-- No. I already knew. I don't think he knew though. I don't know. I knew it though. I know whenever I sign an artist, I don't sign an artist all the time. I sign an artist whenever I see the potential in them. That's why it's so rare when I sign an artist. But when I do, I make sure it's a banger and I make sure I go all in on that artist. Yeah, anyways, going back to that. Yeah, so we were there. He was there. No, but I didn't make the contract or nothing like that. No, he wasn't involved. At least in the time I was working with Junior. So yeah, he got-- he signed, right? He's like, all right, I asked him, is it fine? Like, I'm still his role manager. He's like, well, let's see how that van does compa. We got to the van and I still have videos, bro. And like, where I'm still like this with Junior and all that. And I remember like being back backstage, like, bro, it was like a happy fucking father moment because it didn't sell out, right? But his first event on a Friday, you don't know how many people have got like, "Winth there, bro." I want to say it was crazy. But a good, like, he filled up, like, half the club. Like on like, on his first event, bro. And it was like right after Noi Cambiel. I think Noi Cambiel probably at the time was like at 700K. So he already had like, like, what was he say? Le La Chevy and all those songs. So he was known, you know, he was already kind of-- he was going. He was an upcoming artist. And keeping in mind how like the music scene was like, you know, 100 times smaller back then, too. Yeah, yeah. So it was impressive, bro. It was really impressive. And I remember being there standing there, like, like, a proud dad, bro. I felt so proud of that, my folks. Like, you know, it's seeing him from zero to like him, feeling half a little-- it clubs, you know, I'm out of the rodeo. El nuevo rodeo. I think it was like a Lancaster, something like that. And it was a proud-- it was like a proud moment. I was proud. Right? Let's say the event finished, OK? We go back, we go back to the hotel, and I remember the car ride. And I'm like, I asked him. I'm like, hey, so I'm going to be his role manager, right? The event is all right. But I'm going to be his role manager. He's like, I don't think we can-- I don't think we're going to need-- there's not enough in the budget. I don't know exactly where we are. I don't want to put false words, but basically it was a no. And I'm like, okay. All right, so it was him. I think his brother was next to him from the label. And then it was junior next to me and then his dad next to me. And I'm gonna try. I think it was like Clarato, bro. I still remember. And I remember when he said, no, I turned to the left. And like, I didn't tell him, right? But I turned to the left. And as somebody that loves music and somebody's stream was to be a role manager, I turned to the left, right? 'Cause they were all to the right. I looked out the window, it was like 2, 3 a.m. And a tear came out my fucking eye. I want to see a tear, a couple fucking tears. I cried. Why fucking, call me a pussy. I fucking cried. Because this is my fucking dream, and my dreams got shattered right in front of me. And that was a feel for me to start DMG. And I don't blame it on junior at all, right? Junior is, it was more on false words, false promises. Entering this time in the car, did you understand what was going on between you and like, are you still here? Tell anybody anything, though, right? Like you didn't say anything. Did you know that this was going on? Yeah, it was in the car. So he was in the car. And there was later on, like, like, we kind of came later on, but I don't know. It's really relevant. Because at the end of the day, Junior did ask me to be a role manager again. Like, when he took-- I think he was with Ranch already. And I mean, I was already doing DMG. And I had an avail in a house in a high level of say. So I sacrifice, look, as being junior H's role manager to focus on these guys. And that's kind of-- where I'm about to talk about, actually, is like, I've gone through sacrifices getting kicked out of my house, taking risk on artists, taking them out of positions where they don't want to be, for example, not the lead singer in their group. And for all of a sudden, being come, like, for them to come at me, after I took side, after I said no to junior H, like, I could have just said, you know what, fuck these guys. I could have said, fuck all these guys. Let me go be junior H's role manager. Trabajo, se burado, fucking. In 2023, former bachelor star Clayton Eckerd found himself at the center of a paternity scandal. Something like the greatest disinfectant. They would uncover a disturbing pattern. Greg O'Westby and Michael Mare and Cheney. My mind was blown. I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trap. Laura Scottsdale Police. Ladies and gentlemen, breaking news at America, Pekownia's Laura Owens has been indicted on fraud charges. Listen to Love Trap podcast on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey there. This is Josh from Stuff You Should Know, with a message that could change your life. You can get the Stuff You Should Know Think Spring playlist on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is Josh from Stuff You Should Know, and the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Also Gold Medal Olympian, Alyssa Liu, Neo, Nicole Scherzinger, Nikki Glaser, Sombra, Weiser, and more. Watch Live on Fox, Thursday, March 26th, Teddy, Seven Central. And listen to iHeart Radio stations across America and the Free iHeart app. So recently I had the incredible opportunity to have a real conversation with actors and producer Jamie Lee Curtis, ahead of the release of our new thriller series, Scarpetta. I can honestly say I've never done an interview like that before, you know, at one point I shut my laptop down, and we just started chatting as old friends, recent Oscar recipient. And you said these words to me. Yes. And I looked at you and I said, what? And you said, dust off your mantle. And then I left and that was it. And then when all of that happened, I remember the next morning, I think I wanted to like write you and go, how did you know? Listen to the Questlove show on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Bitches for community, I don't know, I don't know, I just say. What's your life? The Rockstar Life, bro. Sorry, do you mind telling me the artist that you had at the time again? Yeah. So the artist that I had at the time was Jose Mejia Hannivell. I mean, what is yellow before the change of the name? And I had a, I think I had Tony Loy at the time. I don't remember. I would have to go back. I do remember one time, I do remember one time, I do remember that I saw a message where he said that. But yeah, so going back to the story, I turned to the left and I took him out. And you know, luckily though, I had a plan B. So during that time, I was already recording music. I taught myself how to record music, because I had a laptop. I went to college for like one term, I failed, bro. And I never went back to college, but at least had the laptop. So all I needed was a recording equipment. And I didn't have money. I read the UPS, delivering packages a whole bunch of stuff. Being on the passenger and delivering packages. So I bought my equipment, I learned how to record. And the only reason I recorded, I learned how to record, because after that happened, there was an artist that I liked. And this is where Jose Mejia comes into play. The reason, the way I found him, was he had a compa, he had to make compa Fernando, a fetcho. And I was like, "I had a friend. I think her sister was her." I was like 18 at the time, for whatever. And I was talking like, "We're. " She was a different, because we were in a 15-quarter, when I was like 16, 15. So I knew her, and she was like, "Come to my container." I'm like, "All right, I'll go." And then that's when I got comes out. He's like, "Hey, Brian, I have a song I want to show you." It's the me compa. I'm like, "Bell, let me hear it." He goes out, I don't know what the fuck he had, he gets his guitar, and then he gets the guitar. (singing in foreign language) If you know, you know, that's very low-key song. And I fucked with it. And my mom is, "We can't cant' this a role." And he's like, "How the kid is?" He's like, "I have a compa, "that's living in a state in Oregon." And then I'm like, "All right, be. "Presenta me lo." And I meet him. And my boss said, "Bro, you're an artist?" He's like, "No, bro, I'm in a group. "I'm second voice." And same here, I was brand into music. I'm like, "All right, back on pattern." Like, "Let me record you." And I wanna sign him. Keep him up. I didn't wanna fucking sign him. I wanted it. Grow him because I wanted to do events. Right? I wanted to do events. So, let me record you. Let me start off your career. But, in one condition, I want you to be the lead voice. I want you to be your own artist. I'm like, "What's your name?" Jose, okay. Jose, what? Jose me here. All right. "All right, back on pattern." Jose me here. And that's what we did. We launched him as an artist. I'm like, "Why do I have money, bro?" I'm like, "I gotta teach myself how to record." 'Cause I don't have money for a studio. So, I went to guitar center. Yatin yinata kamine, 'cause that's how I built my credit. That was my first credit line ever. It was anata kamine. And I had the guitar. And all I needed was equipment. So, I got my guitar center credit card. And I got the Scarlett interface, where you learn how to record music and all that shit. I got the mics, got the cables. I already had the laptop, 'cause I fucking filled the college. Like, "I blame it on my HD." I couldn't focus. And we have the same story, huh? We still do. Yeah. I thought we'd drop us right here. Oh, y'all dropped out. All proud. Geez. I shit. I'm proud. I'm proud too, huh? I'm proud. So, you get your recording equipment? Yeah, I got my recording equipment. You bring the homie, and you start recording it. Yeah, I prepared myself two weeks in a head of time. How to record the music, how to do the plugins. They didn't know how to match it, but at least I know how to capture the guitar. I know a little bit of the bass, 'cause my dad plays the bass. And yeah, I said, "Kunakansionesirreña, right? Tom myself." And when the day came, I'm like, "Hey, Jose, there's recorded a song, right?" I went to his house. The first song is, "Witchy, we recorded it literally. No homo, bro. All these stories sound like fucking big-ass stories, pa." Like, "Loscientos." No, we recorded on top of this. Oh, Jesus Christ. We were sitting down. All right? Yeah, right. Jose was right here. I was right here, and we were sitting on a bed. And then he had like a little counter. And we put the laptop there. and then connected the interface, and he was right here next to me, recording the stuff and all that stuff, recording all the, we were recording the Gias and all the music and then the vocals were last. So we recorded the music and yeah, and at that time, my YouTube was already growing. So I would post it on YouTube, post it on YouTube, post it on SoundCloud, where I was already freaking big at. So that comes the initials of the Hossemi here, right? And then the generation comes into play, right? So you remember that back in the story, I told you about that one guy that did the contracts, right? That we were in that room with June Rees signed. I remember, I think I don't know about his business card. I think I was, honestly, I think I got a business card. Why did I get a fucking business card? I don't know, but I don't know if I asked a wrecked people guy or asked him for it. I think I asked him for it. I got his card and I'm like, hey, I want, I have an artist right here after this, after this stuff happened. I'm like, hey, I have an artist and I heard your distributor. Who's a distributor? That's a guy, I'm talking about. I've been artist that I want to release. I want his music. Honestly, I think that just, because I was new to music, I think the reason I got his card was to make connects going back to the end of the day. But honestly, I want to like club connect. That's what I wanted. Even though he's not a club connect, it was the look connect that I could have. And if I was going to get introduced into music, it was good for me to know anybody. You know, you never know when you're going to need somebody. So I got his card. I hit him up. I'm like, hey, I have an artist. La la la la. The other guy was supposed to help me release his artist, but he took forever with the contract. La la la. So I went straight to the guy. I think we were going to partner up on what the fuck it was. I think he was going to be my distributor. I think I was going to sign him to him. I was going to-- I don't know what was going to happen. But point is, I talked to the guy, and I want you to have my dish. I want you to help me release this guy. I want to release his music. He's like, all right, bet. You know what's important part? I left out of the-- I left out a part where I released his first album. So it's going to come into play as well. I released June Rage's first album. And it was up on SoundCloud, and then he got signed, and then he got transferred to the other guy. So from that first album, I got me-- I don't see that. I'm sorry. I got a check. I think it was $3,000. I think the check overall was $20,000. And a lot of it went to the label. Or I think I split it with the label. And a lot of it-- well, most of it went to June. And that $20,000 was from SoundCloud? No, it was over at Cosimus and Platforms. That was when I uploaded the album. So a check came on later in. It came in April, May, around those days. Like I said, that money's going to come a lot into play. So what I was basically saying-- I fucking forgot what the hell was I saying? What the money came in? But you were saying that you forgot the check came in? Yeah. I told the guy, I want you to help me release this guy's music. And then this guy said, yeah, I got you. blah, blah, blah. I'm like, OK, I need contracts. Or he say he needs contracts. I need contracts. We're going to start a label with any contracts. He's like, all right, I got you. I mean, look, at the time when you're fucking broke, when you're young, you don't have as much money. You don't have a lot to work with. So I was like, I'm going to say like I'm a victim. He came up with the contracts. And that's the contracts that the artist signed. So whenever they're like, oh, yeah, check your contracts. I agree. Thanks for that shit. I learned to check your fucking contracts. I'm looking lower. Tell your mom to read it if you don't understand it. If you don't understand it, ask a friend that's in the music industry. Nowadays, if your friend's on it in the music industry, his friend probably is. So like, make sure you always have your contracts 100%. What was the contract really bad? It wasn't bad. Honestly, it was a basic contract. But at the time, it's just something that I wasn't familiar with. It's something that I skimmed through it. And I'm like, all right, I don't understand half the language. But I mean, we want to work. He wants to work. Let's do it. [SPEAKING SPANISH] But anyways, he signed. And then that's when I started working with him. So I started working with him. I record like three songs in total. And luckily, I ended up giving him a-- before he signed, he did a corrido with junior age. So that's where Traca's meveran, which I recorded it. Mom and myself, I recorded it. I'm feel proud of that. I recorded it. And then he just sent his vocals, I put him in. And boom, Traca and the veran came out. And then, in Trasnovas, we recorded in Trasnovas. Maybe I don't know if it was after before. Recorded it. And I don't know how many billion plays it is on a-- I'm freaking on YouTube. And that's why I like the quality is like that, because I have no record today. And then other people came into the picture. Eventually, Niveco di Seattle came in. So when Niveco di Seattle came in, and I go back to Mexico music, I heard a song. [SPEAKING SPANISH] And I fuck with the heavy bro. And I don't mean it to make myself up there. I think in label, it's the work of all the tools, like to make something work. The artist, right? If the artist doesn't do shit, what is the label hard to work with? If the label doesn't do their shit, how are you going to help the artist grow? So you need to have both sides, every single-- to label it, and to make it a successful project. That's when I found-- man, I get fucking side-track. But that's when I found my horse solo. And I'm like, you know what, Kumpa? I fuck with your music. What I was going to say is I've always been good at finding music. I think it's a god-gift, to be honest. And I don't mean it to like-- That's fire. I don't mean to say like, oh, yeah, I'm like the best. I know. I think it's just a gift from God. Everybody has their own. And Mio is not to find artists as perros. Like, the artist can't find fucking a. Some have signed with me. Some haven't, because at the time, like, said a YouTube channel was just like a promo page. So they get them from there. And yeah. But anyways, I hear my horse solo. And they were a brand new group, or at least to the streaming platform. They're to YouTube. And I'm like, Kumpa, fuck with your music. Let's talk. And I-- he's like, all right, bet. So that's when Nivell Coiseal came on. And they didn't have no music up for it at all. They had no music. It was just a group. They wanted to start. I went on to music. So I went, look, I already have Jose Miguel. I want to grow him. All right, Nivell came into play. It's almost similar. Sounds. It has Bajolocic, because back then Bajolocic was a shit. And I'm like, yeah, let me work them. I also got him a collab with a-- fuck, I'm trying to think of the song name. [SPEAKING SPANISH] I don't know if you guys have heard of it. Junior H featuring Nivell Coiseal. So that's the song that came. That was a collab that they did. And I mean, from their history, right? These artists come into play like Tony Loia, those of those group was-- but that was just like the beginning of Locke's DMG, right? Like I said, if it wasn't-- I can't say. Like I've seen, like, for example, I've seen comments where they're like, yeah, DMG wouldn't be nothing without these guys. La Vla, bro, they don't know that it takes two to make something work. They don't know that Nivell only had one song on YouTube. They don't know that Jose was a second of us, a group, a local group. So let's say I didn't get my heart broken. I'll say like that. Let's say-- and I was to continue his role manager. I don't know what would have happened, bro. I don't know. Things might have been different. They might have been-- I don't know. They might have been uneven. I don't know. So-- Yeah, I remember this era was like the Takwatch era, the beginning of music about it, like, explode. And then I remember during this time, you had Tony Loia and Tony Loia was like-- You was a shit. You was a shit. And then you guys had the little fall off, and then you sold them to Manzana? Yeah. Yeah, sold them to Manzana. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, that-- that deal, the way it worked was that we worked with Tony, man. It's so weird. It's not weird. It's funny. But we had the way we found him-- because it's a very important part of DMG-- I had a business partner. He's the one that found him. Right? He found his music. He was already with another label. He was like a beginner label, but his music wasn't hitting. And it was also like a different style. So he said, hey, Brian, let's sign this guy. And I'm not going to lie. He even said, he even-- he even had to post about it a couple days ago. He's like, you didn't believe in me. And well, you won't be like, fuck you. I believe in you, blah, blah, blah. I'm not letting you know. I honestly didn't. And it's like, it's not something that I would say like, I'm happy or like that I'm like, I flex. Because like, I go in there knowing talent. I know what's good was not. But this was so unexpected. It's not that I didn't fuck with him. It was like, he had the same voice as another artist. He had the same voice as the dance hip-hatronis. And everybody told him that. So that was the main reason. It was literally because he had the same voice. And I'm like, I wonder how it's going to hit-- because I believe in being unique. How do you want to hit and be unique if you have the same voice to same style as somebody else? And yeah, but he's like, you know what? Like, I believe in him a lot. Like, let's sign him. Let's sign him. And at the end of the day, you know what? I'm going to take a risk. Fuck it. Let's do it. So even though he says, I don't-- I never fuck with him or whatever, I didn't believe him. It took my signature to actually make something happen. It took my investment to make something happen. So I didn't believe him. I'll be like, you know what? You know what? I don't want nothing. You know what? Nah. Because I want him. I don't want him. But what? No. So I definitely think there's some misunderstandings there. And I don't think-- I said, "I don't remember why I said that, because even two or three days ago, I still, actually like four days ago, I still saw that pose." And like I said, that makes me feel unappreciated, it makes me feel like, fuck DMG Brian, which like I said, it's okay, cool. 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Watch as we honor the biggest stars from all genres of music that you loved listening to all year long on your favorite iHeart radio station and the iHeart radio app. Posted by Mootakriff. The iHeart Radio music wards are coming back. All of that happened. I remember the next morning. I think I wanted to write you and go, How did you know? Listen to the Quasla of Show or the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Everything plays out how it needs to be. And then also, I know usually, during this time, Tony Loyal, he was training like he was like this shit. And usually, I feel like a label is a type to not let an artist go. Or made you want to sell him to Montana. Was it just like, I don't want to deal with him? Or was it like the offer that Montana gave you? You don't want him to be somewhere where he said he didn't want to be like. Yeah. So the reason he didn't want to be there, and as, man, see, that's where you live and learn. You're living and learn. You're living and what to do? What not to do? Jimmy hits up Tony. He's like, hey bro, come over here. Let's have a meeting with that. And say, Patronis. Because he, he fucked with that. And say, Patronis. And, and, uh, junior, my partner at the time, he went to his house, the Jimmy, and he met with, uh, Erencia, Jimmy, Tony, and him. Right? So they had a meeting and I'm guessing, said, Chi-Flo, and, uh, El Tony, or label, Stone Ching, or I don't know, like, it was his idol, right? Just like, my idol at the time, I mean, still too this day, I look to, I look up to him a lot, is Jimmy Mille. I mean, that's when I remember before I started the label, I look up to that guy, but like, I want to be like him. I want to be like him. Hey, son a verga, pasco her talent, is a way, like fuck, I'm off of his beast. Ese, el, uh, I know J.O. Peace fucking bad, I said, picking talent. And so many labels, only like a handful, like, hand-picked labels, then no, like, what's your sign, and we're not sign. A lot of labels just sign, look, that's all, okay, Kai, la verga, lo que, Kai, uh, you gotta sign something that you believe in, if not, then you're just wasting your time with money. And you're doing the same shit for the artist. The artist, you're wasting their time, and they could be somewhere else instead of with you. So, yeah, so we could see, they go to a Jimmy's house and they talk, right? I don't know what they talked about, I wasn't there, I wish I would have been there, but I lived in Oregon, right? Maybe that's my sign, I moved to LA. Um, and yeah, so they talk, Tony's like, he causes, or actually, Juner calls me when they, he's like, hey, I have a problem with this artist, he's acting up, like, and I don't know what to do. And I'm like, all right, I'll talk to him, like, what's up? I talk to the guy, uh, Tony, he's a hey, bro, like, uh, I wanna, I wanna, I wanna go with them. I wanna go with a HP record. And I'm like, bro, I don't think you want to do that. I don't think you want to do that. And he starts like, you know, doing, doing it, doing what he does. I'll see it like that. Because even to this day, I would have said something different, but I, from what I saw four days ago, I don't think anything has changed. I don't know, though, you know, I don't mean to, to be there suspect for nothing. It's just like, like I said, I think it's a type of record. I think there's something that he feels towards me. Oh, you said a junior quality. That's your business partner, right? Yeah. Yeah. That's my business partner for DMG. He was. But since we moved more like our operations, like, I have 75% of our artists, 90, 80, but I, they're all in Mexico. So we don't really do much, uh, anything here in LA anymore. Like we did back in the Tacquatch days. So, um, now he has his own thing going on, which, and congratulations to my boy. Um, that I really wish him best of luck. I'm also his partner on that. So whatever he needs, any advice, things like that, he has me. Um, but yeah, so Tony calls me and he says, yeah, I want to go with them. I might, bro, you don't want to do that, bro. You don't want to do that. Like trust me. Like, look, and I met it. Like, I thought of it logically. Like, let bro, he has the same voice as you guys have the same voice. You think he's going to let you out shine him. Like, I don't know if that's what it's intentionally not, but that's how I thought of it. And, and he's like, yeah, a lot of that. But eventually he wanted off. Where's our way? Well, fucking goes to Instagram. Fuck the MG. Fuck this. All this. Fuck DMG Brian. I gave him some Versace glasses at the time. Fucking throws it in the garbage. His clothes DMG clothes. Alas, what's the throwing fits, right? Um, I thought, and at the end of the day, all I wanted was the best for him. Right? Yeah. Like, you're wrapping DMG bro. Like, you think I'm not going to want the best for you with the fuck. It's not that like, if you were to tell me one thing, I don't remember is that he wanted it a better, a better deal. I don't remember him saying anything like that. He just wanted to be with HP. And so when he actually like did all the talking shape, blah, blah, he hung out with HP. Honestly, I don't know what happened. Why he nothing worked out over there. I never heard a phone call from, uh, from anybody on that side. But I did get a phone call from unsung records. And this was like, yeah, I'm messes this place. And he was like, hey, bro, like, what's up? Hey, I want to, I want to buy to me from you. I'm like, yeah, bro, I'm down. And one thing about me, bro, I'm always willing to let an artist go. You think I'm going to let somebody like freaking that doesn't, well, he did bring value to time, right? So he wanted to, like I said, if he wanted to sell or take care of, I didn't look like I'd go and buy. You have a, but that's all the bendy, right? Because he was going to be happy. I was going to be happy. I'm like, bet. And I never, and artist wants to go, which is very nowadays. But let's say they want to go and I look, bro, let's work something out. I'm on the same fucking pages. You cause usually they're not doing much in the label. But that's that is what the cost. That's when they're not doing anything in the label. So to me, I'm like, you know what? It's not worth my fucking piece of mind. It's not worth my money. It's not worth my, not worth my time. My team's time. So it's not worth your time. Tampoco. We're not doing much with you then. Um, I agree. 100%. Let's work something out and let's go peacefully. So at the time, Monsanto has me up. He's a hay bro. I got 200K for you. I'm like, all right, bet. Fuck it. Let's do it. Sold him. Sold Monsanto for 200K. And yeah, that's basically what it did. You're doing this time. Um, were you already making money through the label? Or like, what was your reaction when like those 200K was like, kind of how you said like, all right, but let's do it. Was it like, oh, shit, like 200K? Was it like, like changing or was it just like, oh, you know, that's a cool little like chunk of change. You guys remember the $3,000 or $2,000 I mentioned earlier? So when I got the check from June 8th, that was enough for me to invest into the first videos into what's in here. It wasn't enough for plane flights for him and his musicals and for me. So I had to get the cheapest, the guy at the time, the most affordable guy here in LA. At the time, I don't know about right now. My boy Lensh, I don't know if you guys know Lensh films. So Lensh films, I hit him up and then Junior, he had a spot to record at. So we had already things there, I just didn't have the money for the flights. So I had a rental car, but it was going to be cheaper if my mom was under the name, you know, as Sarah's the driver. So I rented a car and I drove all the way from Silomore and all the way to LA. And that's my first time, like, actually, it was in LA. And that's what I spent my two key on, three key on and so on. So it's not like I spent it out or like fucking god new shoes or whatever. And straight to the artist and that's what I kept on doing, whatever came in straight to the artist. So whenever that 200 K came in, it was, I wouldn't say life changing, but it was definitely something like, okay, like. But it was something like, all right, it's cool. Let me get myself a cool little chain, right, a little pendant, it's a rep DMG. And I was about it, but I want to say it was life changing. And then a lot of it, I mean, got also invested back into the other artist. Yeah. Yeah, I think I think a lot of people get confused or maybe like the artist that even though there's like a lot of money coming in, there's a lot of expenses and splits between the companies and the artists. You're 100% correct. And matter of fact, that brings up the topic of why contracts are the way they are. Right? Cause a lot of people say, I told you guys earlier, I've been commentating what you're saying. I pinched the MGA, never something to fucking DMG, DMG bad, Benses DMG ratas. But if you go into the fucking comments, you're going to see, I'm also in rancho, I pinched a rat, I pinched him in a rat. You're going to see pinch, I can't believe you have pinched a rat. I see a little bit of like a little bit of every fucking label. Look, people don't understand. We find these artists from zero. So like, let's say, okay, I find these artists from zero. But more importantly, we're the ones investing into these artists. So we're putting money at risk. We don't know we're going to see it, bro. So that's why the contracts are the percentages they are the way they are because we're putting money into a new artist. And you don't know if we're going to see that back, right? But let's say it's a bigger artist. Let's say it's like a fucking, I don't know, a clave special, right? They wouldn't get the traditional contract. They'll get something more. Why? Because they're bigger. There's less risk. They're ready there. They really like built themselves up to get a bigger contract. Exactly. I always wondered about that. If, you know, not talking about your contract specifically, what would a traditional music contract be like for somebody to start off? Let's say, you know, I just thought I want to start singing tomorrow. Like, what would be something that I get? So look, a lot of people have a bad impression of 360 contracts. But 360 contracts is that you're basically signed all around. You know, events, you're signed in for merch, you're signing for all in. Anything that has to do with your image, yeah. There are also contracts you can negotiate. So nowadays, I was talking to one of my boys, Ray from downtown, that now contracts nowadays are a little bit more flexible. Now they do different things. Some do EP deals, some do 360 deals. It was like a perfect project. Yeah. So now you can negotiate. What do you want? So when I sign an artist, I ask them, "Look, it took it as a way. What is what you want?" And then from there, I kind of cater. And they're like, "Oh, I want a better percentage blah blah." I'm straight up with them. I'm like, "Hey, man. The reason the percentages are the way they are is because I have to put investment, right?" I have to risk money that I'm not going to see. I hear a starting artist, okay? Those are the two main ones. But I promise you, if they look at Palau, that way, see if you blow up or I see, you know, the returns coming, bro. Confián mi, tomá por mi Palau, rau, pincé, sora, and whatever. I will negotiate that contract. I'll give you a better percentage, whatever you want. We'll work on it. So it's all about knowing who you're working with them, you know, bro. Because there's a lot of labels that were kind of like me when I was starting. You know, they didn't know what the fuck they were doing. So they just hand out whatever. So you got to make sure you know who you're signing with. That's very important. Know who you're signing with. So a lot of like, those issues happen because the artist, I'm out of the percentage, you know, but I'm guessing it's not a 50/50. You know, and towards the artist, this happened because like, you know, listen, they blow up and all of a sudden they see these like massive amounts of money going towards the label. And then they think that they deserve something a little better because, you know, it takes two to make it happen. You know, the artist did for their part as well. 100%. So maybe like, they get pissed off because they're not down to the brand new. Negotiate because then that's the label pretty much giving up the bag. Is that your question like that label? Is that kind of like something that happens a lot? Of course, like you said, you know, like, oh, the label, but I don't know if you blow up. We'll give you something better. So he's asking basically they're not down to do it a lot of times. Artists? No, no, the labels were to get better. Oh, the labels. I don't know about other labels, but I'm sure if they were to talk or they were to have a better understanding of the label. Talk or they were to have a lawyer and the lawyer was presented to the label. Hey, like whatever it is blah, blah, thank you guys for this. We love working with you guys. We want to negotiate a better deal. Then I would assume I don't want to speak for everyone, man, because I don't know mostly what I don't know how they work. I'll tell you how I worked though. One of my artists, I'll give an example. Eric B. Right. He's one of my artists. He's a Hey, Brian. You know, he's I've seen the returns. I've seen, you know, I've seen the returns. He came at me like, yeah, I want to resign with you. He signed with us for another two years, two, three years, whatever. And I'm like, yeah, he's like, but I want a better deal. You know what I did? I'm like, what do you want? I want this. I want that. You know what I did? Like, bro, I saw a return. You know, I see what you can do. Fuck it. I'm done. That's how it is. That's how it is with me though. I can't fucking speak for everyone. I don't know. That's just like I said, I see so your way. See your way. I think it's I think it's worth renegotiating the contract. And like I said, yes, like I'm DMG, right? Or I want to say I'm DMG, because my team wrote without them shut us to John Carlo and shut us to Lorena. They fucking help us so much. But like DMG. I represent DMG. And I also was a musikwass on point. I played the porting. I played guitar. I played bass. So I'm responding. I play all these instruments. So I know what it is to be an artist. I know Las Pinchas is Veladas coming home at five in the morning. Not being there on Saturdays for your mom's birthday party for being there on your children on your not children's on your brother's birthday party. So I understand both sides. And like I don't know who said who said it earlier, but two it takes two to 10 bro to the thing. So one thing that I was going to say when the values comment areas like I said, when it be nothing with DMG love or no, DMG would be nothing without them. But they kind of forget it takes two people to make it work. You know, it's a teamwork. It's everything is a teamwork. It's not just me. It's not just me. It's always the artist, the label and the label's team. Well, the label and the artist. Yeah. Everyone in the label. So you're talking about all these sacrifices, you know, like missing some important days. And you know, I'm sure a bunch of other things that don't come to mind right now. And then you see comments of, you know, artists, whether publicly or not publicly, you heard from somebody that they're not happy or you're the MG this, Brian this, that like, how does that make you feel? And do you think that at some point like maybe they are kind of right or do you think like they're just like totally lost and like don't even know what's up. Like talking about you like that. I would like for them to understand me. Just like the comments said, they were young blah blah. I was also young, right? I was 19 at the time. I had somebody else basically that guy, the contract guy, he was doing like the, the contracts and he was also doing like, he was like my mentor. So whatever he would see, I'll kind of go with it. Like I said, I don't want to take, be victim. I fucking, I hate the victim mentality of like always blaming always blame. No, I don't do that. So I would take responsibility. I should have done more of my research. I should have got a lawyer. I even though I did have money, you kind of like, you kind of work with what you have. And that's why everything played out the way it did, which like, look at it now. If it didn't play out the way they did, these artists wouldn't have gained the knowledge that they have now. Right? I wouldn't have gained the knowledge that I have now. So now they're willing to also negotiate better deals, get whatever they want basically. They have, they have, they have, they're built to the plate. They're built to the place where they can ask for things. You know, and if they got that and I'm, you know, still working with DMG and still building other artists, I think honestly, I think this is like whatever happened, I think it's the best I could have happened. You learn and you go and now they're doing good. So I'm really happy about that. I feel proud to be part of their journey, bro. Pro Sina got from second level as to being a fucking, to my as a superstar. I was like, nah, super so like a person, but like a star. And then seeing me really, you know, doing what they're doing, what they're doing. I feel proud and I feel happy and I wish them nothing but the fucking best, bro. Like I know how I know how I'm about. There's a type of little thing that you have for your first artists, that you don't know. It's like your baby. What you're supposed to do is to grow. So yeah, really happy for them. And you know, whatever happened happened. And that's what I want them to know for them to be doing good. 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I predicted that by the way. - And you said these words to me, dust off your mantle. - Yes. - And I looked at you and I said what? And you said dust off your mantle. And then when all of that happened, I remember the next morning, I think I wanted to write you and go, how did you know? - Listen to the Questlove show on the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. - Now that we bring up Niva, I kind of wanted to ask, well, first of all, how did it happen that they first left DMG? Did the contract end or was it like, "Hey, let us go," or like, "Lumas, I'm off you." - Okay, yeah. So this guy that was having the contracts, he was also in charge of handling the money side. So I don't know what the fuck happened with this guy. And like I said, I'm not gonna say his name, I'm not nothing like that. I think that should be, you know, I don't, I don't wanna, (laughs) And I don't think that's it. And also accounting. So he'll do the accounting, and he'll just report to the artists and he'll be on my part. And then says, which now it's not like that. Now I work with downtown. So it was downtown, so that's a fucking downtown. So that's a ban, shout out to Ray. They actually took me out of that contract that I was with with that guy. So there was, I don't know what happened, And then they weren't getting paid. So whenever they were, excuse me, when they were in the park and somebody like, "Yeah, we weren't getting paid," whatever, like they weren't. But it's not because it was my fault. It was because they wouldn't pay up. I wouldn't get paid either. - Could distributor at the time. - Exactly, the distributor at the time, which was a third party. So it was like, I say, "To all my people watching that on the label, Party distributor, because then it's like fucking messy and there's more percentages involved. So I say I recommend you go straight to who you can or not, bro, if you're just starting, go with District Kid. Like just go with District Kid and then as you grow, start seeing, start scouting people, start scouting if you can get into down town, orchard, whatever it is. But don't do no third party distributor, man. So anyways. - How long did you guys go without getting paid? - Yeah, so we went a couple of months. I don't know exactly the time for him, this was in 2022. And I wouldn't get paid either. But I would get paid like, come up to the label, like maybe like, a little bit, like I'll say like 10k, 15k at a time, but like every, imagine that anyway, I have all these groups behind me, I have an event, I fucking Jose. And I can even pay them. So everything that I would make, 'cause he was sent it to me instead of them, like those 15k, whatever it was, 10k, so those mandaba ayes. So there was this, for 2022, it was fucking hell to me. It was a good learning experience, but I suffered much less as a senior. And I don't think they know that. I don't think I ever told them that. But like everything that would come in, I would have to like pay them in payments, you know? So I would have to pay them in payments, just 'cause the money that was coming in, it wouldn't be enough to even cover what they were owed. So whenever the contract ended, they were still owed a certain amount of money that I had to sacrifice, well not sacrifice. Just give it to them, 'cause it's the hairs. What the fuck am I gonna do with their money? I'm not a person to fucking be like, you know what, me first, a lower youth space. No, so I really thought I had a house at that time. I was gonna meet them, I think crazy. I really thought I was gonna lose my house at that time. I got to the point where I had my girl at that time. I had a girl at that time. And I would ask her jokingly, jokingly, hey, what would you do if like, I can't pay the rent? And she was like, she was a real one for this. She was like, well, I'll get to work, you know? What do we need? I'll help you. Yeah. So anyways, it got to that point and well eventually everyone got paid and downtown came to me and they're like, hey, we wanna help, we wanna take you out of this contract. We wanna, you see that it's gonna end and the person that hit me up is Ray. He's like, we see this contract gonna end so we wanna renew it or we wanna do something else with you. And I'm like, bet, I'm done. This is my situation, can you guys help me? They're like, yeah, and they're the ones that help me. They came to the rescue and since then, that's why things have been so different. So that guy's not involved no more. We don't do no third party distribution. Now we do straight to the guy. Straight to the source and it's amazing man. And then during the summer, sorry, during the summer 2022, how did Nivelle and like, was that me? He had like, was it like, oh, like, were they mad at you or were they understanding that it was like, no, they were mad at me because I remember like, then going on podcast and kind of like talking mess about me, which I understand bro, I don't blame any of these guys. 'Cause you like to explain to them or what are you telling me? Yeah, I would explain to them $5,000 and you know, I only got 1,000. I would explain to them. But when I'm the head of a label, you know, you're, you're gonna take all the responsibility. So I would like, I would like, what would you tell them or like, what was going on or what were you talking to the guy like? I did, I told him, hey, this guy's not paying enough. Like, it's, I don't know, what's up? He said there's, I don't know, some about fucking taxes. I don't know, but he says that, you know, there's not money. He can't pay you guys yet, yet. So I wouldn't want to keep him waiting. Yeah, you weren't getting paid either. I was, it was so, it told you it was like the amount of money that would come in. And I would take like maybe like two, K, three K, whatever it was to pay all my bills and the rest in it to them. So I wouldn't have like money to spurge, I knew no clothes. I was like, okay, just enough for my rent. And I was happy with that. Rent and food. So. And were you trying to, at that time, like actively trying to figure it out with the guy or like, or like, did you know, like was guy, did he say I'm like a bad guy or are you like believe them? Or I did, or was he said what you said? What I thought about him? No, I ended up, what he said was actually true. Like, Eltenia Pales is the way he couldn't, I don't know, I think it was like something with taxes. Eltenia Pales. So there was like the money was just there. And that's why he couldn't send it. So I didn't, at the time, I didn't think of like, I was like, no, it's because it's doing some shady shit. But no, he was actually telling the truth. At the end of the day, I don't think he's a person like a bad guy 'cause I mean, eventually this guy did come through with it, yaket, bolz, baget, like now that I have paid everyone, right? So if I had any day come through, we had, we did have to like, get, hold on. We did have to get lawyers involved and that one, but it didn't get to nothing more because we resolved it and we fixed the issue. So, el por su parte, le tocó su parte, me tocó mi parte, everyone was good and we left it at that. And I don't think I've, I mean, me saludo, like, I don't know, when I like last year, so I'm like that, it's like saludos, you know, I see what you're doing with the near Garcia. I think you're right, I appreciate it. So there's like no bad blood at all. You know over there. So after, you were able to pay them after the contract ended with Nivell, right? Yeah, I would say, man, I don't know, but they got paid all the way. Like it was, it was completely, it was just during that time. It just took long. It, it, it took long, it took payments. Oh, okay. Yeah, it took payments because I couldn't, no, I was able to put that on the foot. And like, they were going to have me rent it, three mil, it was like, my rent, exactly was three thousand, three hundred. And yeah, I obviously had a, get like three thousand from there and do the rest of payments. We're back from the break. I've learned a lot of stuff so far, but I do want to ask you, like, just straight to it. And part of the reason why you came on the podcast is because we did cover that there's a TikTok out there of Nivell, you know, they're in the panadería, you know, they're working, doing their thing, you know, they seem happy. And then one of the comments, you know, is even bringing up the comments, like, "Where's the panadero?" Where you know, it goes without saying, "No, he's not in the malo, but they did ask that." And then right away, he's like, "Oh, well, have you seen her all the way?" Yeah. So then they're like, you know, there was like, "No, there's something wrong there, you know?" Yeah. So then they're, "No, yeah." And it completely sentient de verla. And everyone has their way of looking at things, right? It's all about perspective. So, like, what do they feel like they've been wrong there? Yeah, so let me tell you guys, there are different types of royalties, right? And not a lot of people know this, right? Not the people that are artists know, but not the people like fans. So there are different types of royalties, right? One of them is like, for example, when you play a song on Apple Music, on Spotify, that generates a royalty, right? Whenever you play a song on a radio, that produces a royalty, right? Whenever you write a song, right? And somebody else thinks it, makes it cover on it. You get a royalty. So, with that being said, right now, in the contract that the guy wrote, is basically saying that, all right, they was gonna keep this part of the royalties, and what's not included in the contract is that they are, which, I mean, it's not included, but they, it's theirs, right? They own all the publishing and all the writers. So whenever, for example, it's Danoce, you guys remember that Yadita cover? It's Danoce. So the writer, I think it was Brian, right? Brian the writer from New Vell. He's getting all the royalties from that song on the writer's side, right? And also on their publishing, I don't know if we have as a publisher, whatever it is, or if they're doing it themselves, but they're also getting paid over there for those songs. Also from all the other music that we have on DMG, they're also getting paid on the publishing and the writers on that side. So I think it's just a little bit more of clarifying things up. You know that there are different types of royalties. It's not that the label's like, "Fuckin' keeping every single fucking thing, you know?" "Pinche, ratera comatina, scomentarius." No, it's not like that. So at this point, when you guys are not with you anymore, what royalties you get or what income do you get from New Vell? So only royalties I get is basically look as Spotify and look as Apple, but streaming royalties, right? But like I said, they're keeping look as publishing and they're keeping all writers. So they kept 100% of like writers in publishing and you kept 100% of the streamers. Exactly. Exactly, you know? And I think it is pretty fair like that. And it's just very important for the people to know definitely that there are different types of royalties. Like I said, You can negotiate anything. So make sure you always check your contracts, whatever you want, if you like it, if you don't, you can always negotiate, make sure that you go in with the label and you tell them exactly what you want, you get what you want. You know, I mean, I mean, I don't want the labels to hate me. But like I said, I'm also an artist. I'm also come from learning the Korean, from my dad being in a band. I'm not gonna lie, even right now, whenever they still have gigs and I'm in Oregon, I still go play with them. So yeah, yeah. But I love it though, I love it. I don't know if it's for the money. It's literally because I love it. So the day that like the contract's over, the day that they left, you know, you after there was a few payments because you weren't able to kind of like put the money in. To complete that, yeah. So the money that they wrote for like the work that they did up to that point, yeah, like they've already been 100% paid. Yeah, and then of course like after they're done or you know, the role, he's like, there's Tia Kanerando sauce. Yeah. They kept the writers and publishing. Writers and publishing. And I'm keeping the writers. Meaning that they're still getting paid for. They are still getting exactly. They're still getting paid. Even though they said don't get, don't play these songs instead. I saw that. Yeah. I didn't see it. It's funny. I don't know why he did it, but he blocked me from his seeing his story. So when I saw that, I was actually at the gym and I saw that video and I'm like, what the fuck? Thank God I was at the gym because you know, I went a little bit harder. A little bit harder. And did they ever like reach out after, or like after they, maybe at the time when they signed it, they didn't, like you said you didn't know what was on it, like they made it, they didn't either. At some point they like reach out and they were like, you know, like, you know, we see you keep 100% of this. Can we negotiate something or did they just take a look? Let me tell you something, Angel. Thank you for bringing that up. I also, you know, personal, it's a very, very, very, I love to work like I said, not just because it's something that I love, but also because I'm a musical too. I understand the artist side. So they were to come back to me and they were to say, hey, we wanna see what we can do. Maybe something where we can lead something a new project or maybe where we can do something with the old works. Bro, I'm always on to fucking work. I'm not here in a master, a little short cash. No, I mean, it's for the long run. I see DMG as an extra inch for me. I wouldn't say replacing them, I'll see next to them. You know, Jimmy's my idol. Or a guy I look up to. So I'm in it for the long run. Matter of fact, I'll tell you something. And they said, before I was saying that he took me off of his view in his story, I saw everything there, right? I saw that he said that you post like he said, go stream, if you fuck with it, let's go stream these versions instead. I would tell every single, he well-fanned, every single person out there, please go do that. Please go do that. You know, if you really fuck with an artist that much, please go do it. Like at another day, the guys that I started with, you know, like I said, DMG wouldn't be toward this if DMG and Nivelle didn't find each other. If Jose and this guy didn't find each other. If Junior and Brian didn't find each other, if Frick and Tony, you know, all this stuff, everything is, everything is, happen like a needs to be, I don't know if God made it like that, whatever it is, we all learned. But I fuck with these guys so much, I would tell them, bro, please go stream all of their stuff. Like don't even, I mean, if you fuck with like our versions more, obviously listen to what you like. But respectfully like, yeah, go go for it. Like go stream this stuff. It's cool. And when was the last time you talked to him or like, or like them specifically? Yeah, which way I think I talked to him like a couple months ago, a couple months ago, he wanted to give me some songs for Daniel. So we have an artist because he's not that nervous yet. So, he's a component, he's not supposed to be as concerned as, so we haven't got anything yet. But he did offer it. He's like, "Abra, whenever you need some songs for him, let me know." So it's not like, well, it's like, yeah. Did they just find out that they weren't getting royalties from the streaming or did it like they always know about it? And like, I just had to know where they were like, "Hey, you know what? This is kind of messed up." It happened in 2022, whenever like, their contract ended. But like I said, it's something that, whenever they first signed in 2019, it's something that we were all new to the music. They were new to the music and I was new to the music. So I was like, "Los, no, no, no, no, I'm going to get royalties." Which is honestly pretty fucking bossy of them to trust me. And I'm also going to be grateful for that, like, not knowing something and then going in with someone that doesn't know anything. You guys are both learning together. 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You know, if you're developments in you as a story, what would you tell them? I've heard their, I've heard rumors. I'll say this. I'll say no matter what you get offered out there, Troy, Brian, Jeffrey, Abelito, Almighty, I promise you I will give you something better. Like that's all I can say. Like I'm here. Me's without a son of a, if you want to come back to DMG and if you want to own your master's by, let me know. I'm here to work. I don't do this shit for the master's under whatever it is. I do this shit because in the long run because I think I see DMG as one of the top dogs. I so like to say, you would love to work with them again. Oh, look to DMG for president, 20, 20, okay. I'm president. And I feel like that's pretty good to that. You gave them, you know, they're publishing. I feel like there's a lot of labels that we see that like they take from everything. Like a home, you know, we're taking a cut. Yeah. Yeah. But that goes back to the thing where like because they also put a lot of risk into it. They also like, it's an artist from zero. But like I said, whenever they're built up, for example, I'll email the Nivell. I was in the middle of a certain way. I want my master. I want 50% of my master's whatever it is, you know, you have the flexibility to do that. Yeah, maybe just in this case that happened, you know, maybe some other people is like, oh, you know, we're taking, you know, the labels taking 50% of the streaming and also 50% of publishing and the writers and, you know, we're just going 50 all the way through. In this case, it was like, you know, 50% of the streaming, I mean, 100% of the streaming and 100% use the writers and that's just kind of how I went in this case, you know. Yeah. It was pretty good. 100% of the publishing because all the covers that came out after, you know, the, you know, the detail one and then the bottom ones were like, they have to look at the end. So yeah, that was good. I think you, I think you, you think you're side of it well. And I think it was good. You know, that you gave your side too. And you just didn't like, take the comments. No, maybe at some point they also want to come on. I don't know. I'm sure they'll have something to say after this too. Yeah. More than anything you want to give you your props for, you know, taking the risks to start the label, you know, investing in these artists from zero, I think a lot of people wouldn't do that because of the stress. But what's next for you? What's next for your label and your team? No, thank you for asking that Jason. So, later, we have an artist right now called Sparsa. Sparsa is an artist from Culecan. And let me tell you guys something. I don't know. You know, actually, I saw him in, you know, sorry, it's because you brought it up. He was in the thing I went to the Nermosillo. They, he was on the, continue on the lineup or something like that. Yeah, they were talking about them. Yeah. So, the Sparsa, that's the new artist that we have. And I'm going to tell you guys something. I love working with Mexico artists because so in Mexico, they're not as fortunate as us. Right? So, I talked to this guy, Sparsa to a steakhouse. I went to Rey to celebrate. He got like 10 million views at that day. He got 10 million views on a steak talk. I don't think it's like a 13 mil, almost 14, 13.5 whatever. And I wanted to like give him like a taste. Like, hey, bro, this is what you're waiting for. You see, you're going to hit that shit soon. And at the dinner, he said, bro, I've never been to a steakhouse. Like, it's getting on and he was like a little kid at a steakhouse and it made me feel good knowing that these kids and Mexico are chasing their dreams and, you know, they're chasing their dreams. And they're actually like learning and their experiencing new stuff in life that they never would have experienced. And I think what that's what life is about. I think it should be about both sides winning. It should never be one sided. So whenever they say, I repeat it again. Whenever they said, man, DMG takes all the credit. Whatever it is, this guy wouldn't be this without that blah, blah, no. It's actually two sides, two sides make a legacy. So yeah, it's part of my focus right now. He's a guy that's upcoming. And we just released a cumbia from him with Octavia Cuadras and Juan Ferrer. And then we have, do I talk with you guys now? Jajá que mate? Jajá que mate, no? Tanto, poco, say, "Nos me le rores" Oh yeah, yeah. So that guy. And then we have, he met with Antonio Padilla yesterday. So we have a couple of stuff coming. But all I know is, at another day, DMG Rancho. So I see it. Nice. Damn, I think this is a lot of inspiration for anybody that's starting out at label. You know, I think for musicians too that want to be signed to the best label as well. I think you prove yourself and we want to congratulate you for that. Thank you. We can go on. We can go on. I like you, papa. I don't know, I don't know. I don't know. Okay. I promised something in the break. Ah, yeah, yeah. So, it's a clip, clip, clip. This is a first song that Junior H wrote and I'm not sure if I have to redo that. Okay. So this was the first song that he made or he released? So this is Junior H's first song ever. Ever. And V are his first song he recorded and he's been in a song in a media. And which is a song. I'm going to play a little bit. Junior H is watching this. Please don't hate me, bro. I love you. I love you, baby. What's this one called? Los Alas Westbreak. Los Alas Westbreak. I'm on it. [Music] [Music] You guys heard it here first probably. That is Junior H's first song ever. It's like, probably. No, no, he made me take it down a little day after he uploaded. He's like, I can do better. I want to, I want to, I want to ask the like, what's your relationship right now with Junior Hatchin? I'm not like, we haven't talked in a while. But like I said, after that, the whole thing, the romanticer, the first time, like I said, he did ask me to be his romanticer again. But just at that time, I was like, I'm really focused on the lyrics. I'm really focused on the label thing and I want to make this, you know, work with the label. And so every since then, we've talked here and there, like when we had Tony, he's like, "Hey, the company is on the way. I was back then." But we're going to talk about it with him. I mean, I would love to catch up with him. Yeah, well, I'm like 100% sure that he's watching this. I have the clips and take the action. What would you like to say about all his past, his principles? I'm very proud of you guys. Come with me from your room and recording. I learned from you. Whenever you learn how to record, play your music and all that, sing from the Westprix. I've never changed my Chevy Way. And it was since then that we have in Spokane. It's been a while. It's been a while. He saved me his. Ya sé que la última vez que me he escuchado es el 2022. Y creo que es una de las mismas cosas que hemos hecho. Es porque se ha visto como todo este búsqueda que ha pasado. Pero no sé cómo se ha hecho el detalle. Así que quiero pensar que yo me he hecho la oportunidad de hacer todo. Así que finalmente es decir cómo es. No vina a tirarla a nadie. Yo solo vina aquí con una meta mimente que fue, pues, explicar las cosas como son. Y decirme parte y pues, se donesto, ¿no? Yo siempre he venido en su business. F*ckin' 2016, yo me he f*ckin' mi career. Yo tengo un todo en el mundo que me he hecho. Y es que no me he hecho. Así que, gracias por mi oportunidad. Por mi la plafor. Me he hecho que nunca me he hecho. Me he promocido a ustedes cuando me he encontrado el próximo plafor. Porque se lo ha hecho. Si te lo hagas, te voy a ver a todos los shows. F*ck, me he hecho que. ¡Que no me correo de algo! ¡Güestro papá! ¡Ahhh! ¡Esto es todo! ¡Güestro! -Vamos a ver. -Vamos a ver. ¡Güestro papá! Otros también les toca su primera entrevista de lo que no me habla. ¡Ahhh! No, no hay que venir a talk show, a nadie. -Dah, ¿qué es? -Dah, ¿qué es? Once again, we wanna say thank you. Thank you to everybody that turned into this episode. Y nos vemos en el próximo episodio. (Bruido) ¡Let's go! Ahora, ya escuché los music awards. ¡Aren't coming back! ¡Torres de march '26! ¡Live! ¡Buen Fox! ¡Valch, as we honor the biggest stars from all genres of music que les gustó todo el año en tu favorito de radio y radio. ¡Poste de la Budacrista! Ay, con la cordura de la gente, John Melancham, la cordura de la gente, Marley Cyrus. Con las performances de Alex Warren, Kailani. Lainey Wilson. 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