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[MUSIC] >> Yeah, what the fuck is up, welcome to my favorite lyrics. The podcast we talk about music lyrics, except when we talk about other stuff. Today we got a very, very special guest. He's an artist that I've been a fan of for some years. You know what I'm saying, he got all kinds of projects out with all types of people. I'm a big fan, welcome to the show Overcast. >> Let's go, it's good I'm here, I'm a rapper. I'm doing what's rapper, rapper intro, what's up? >> Yeah, you already know what it is. >> No, no, no, just one time for the homies back, yeah. >> It's just me, yeah, man. >> Yeah, man, I'm really, I like we're having more musical artists on, obviously I'm a comedian. So I have a lot of comedians on, but I'm trying to do more artists. But it's interesting, it's interesting talking to different rappers. Because different rappers be coming with different vibes. We just had cash, Cobain on. >> Okay, I see no. >> You know what I'm saying, and that's like he a rapper. >> Yeah, you know what I'm saying, like he like. Cash is like a rapper, I was talking to him and it was, we probably recorded with him at like 5 pm. And the way I was talking to him, I was like, you just woke up on him, he was like, yeah, no. >> Hey, bro, that's a different lifestyle. >> You know what I'm saying, I was like, when I talk to him, I was like, you're like a rapper, he does that shit. >> You vote me, he really outside. He was telling me some stories off to the side about like, he really be in the bottle service. Like doing like, doing a rapper shit. >> Yeah, that's, that's a, I want to, I got a girlfriend at home. >> I can't participate. >> Yeah, even if I did, and it's like, bro, I want to like, like, instance and sit down and shit. >> I feel the exact same way, I feel the exact same way. And I feel like, honestly, I feel like that's why I gravitate towards your music. >> Okay. >> I feel like that's part of it. I feel like this is, this is music for Niggas, they like to have a calm time, indoor, they like to get a couple homies around. >> Yeah. >> You don't know what I'm saying? >> Yeah. >> Have a couple little dress, get in the backyard. >> The four of us, it get loud. >> Yeah. >> But it's just us like five, four, four, five, yeah, I mean. >> You know everybody's situation, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me ask you this, because we were talking about this off mic. Before before before before we started, you were like, hey, you gonna make me rap? And I was like, I was like, no, they had to, they had to hit and they had to hit on. >> But I was like, yeah, I'm not about to rap. >> What's your relationship with that? Because I'm always so curious, like I'll see people go on like Tim Westwood or like 197 and it's that. >> Yeah, how do you feel about what I'm saying? >> It's multifaceted, because it's hip hop. >> Yeah. >> It's nothing wrong with it, but not everybody got to be rapping on the microphone. It's like a thing where it's like, if you, it's like, okay, back in the day, if you hopped in the cipher and you were stuttering, it would beat your ass. >> Yeah. >> So like, you can't be on the microphone. >> So it's like, you gotta be ready. >> Yeah. >> When the time comes, it's like make it shut the fuck up. Like throw a shoe at you, get out the way, and then the next thing you come in and bite it, that's it. So it's like, I feel like it's a sacred thing, and I feel like it shouldn't be just like. >> That's rap. >> You know what I mean? >> Sure. >> It's just, it's just a little, like I want to hear, if you want to rap on, like in this, you know, I want to hear. I want to lock in and hear what you guys say. >> You really trying to tap in, also it's like, what's, I'm always curious, have you done like a radio freestyle? >> I have done it, which is crazy. >> The craziest part, it was with Lupe Fiasco. >> Oh shit, like it was Lupe's show, like he has a radio show like. >> No, it wasn't his show, it was, it was, no, no, no, it was swaying in the morning. >> Okay. >> And Lupe came after me, and he just like, I'm in there, and they like, like, yeah, it's something he bought the rap in. It gets a weird, a little bit weird. >> And I was like, the fuck, like, all of a sudden, they like, you got an audience. >> The first time I ever rap on the fucking radio with Lupe, I'm like, okay, so okay, cool. But then it was like, they were doing this, like, yeah, Nika, like, ah, and I'm like, bro, I'm 26. Gain, like, this don't scare me, like, if I was like 19, I'd be like, oh my god, like, but I'm like, bro, like, I'm. >> I'm like, I'm about to go home and pay my rent to my, like, this, don't really scare me. Well, I love, you know, I love it, I love rapping, it's just like, I don't really, it's time to play, it's something like this. >> I also feel like it's, I feel like what's your related, when you're in that moment, and they put you on the spot, you're like, all right, I gotta go off top, or you're like, no, I knew that was gonna do that. So I have verses in my head, you know what I mean? Off the top is like, you gotta like, not give a fuck. If you freestyle off the top of your head, you're trying to be like, you're lyrical serious, Nika, you're gonna fuck up. You gotta just, you gotta like, you gotta just be saying stuff. You gotta just be, that's why I feel like a lot of times, it's rappers that's like, like, funny rappers, I feel like it's off the top. >> Yeah, because you gotta have, it's jokes in there, it's funny, it's like clever things, you know what I mean? You can't be one of them, it's like, okay, Nika, you did it all day, you know what I mean? >> I feel like, I feel like Jay Colby rapping real, like freestyle and serious. >> Yes, he really, you really feel like in the geopolitical system. >> Yeah, yeah, it's cool, but they're trying to take us down from the inside, it was a government job. >> Yeah, that was a good, that was a difference. >> That's, I've listened to a lot of Jay Colby in my life, I've listened to a lot of Jay Colby. Sometimes against my will, but it, >> Colby, hey, hold on, that's a whole different. >> That's a whole different way, >> That's a whole different way. >> That's a whole different way, so I ocean we can dive into. >> The Jay Colby, I mean, we can go, we can go whatever you want. I gotta, you know what I don't, I don't gotta see a lot of these people so I can tell, I can say whatever. >> Yeah, I'm not an awful Colby, I think, I think Col, like, Col, this is the thing my hip hop is not hip hop no more bro. So like, if you trying to be hip hop, it's like, it's like, there's like a case at point bro. I saw a clip of Thousand Banned Funny coming out at a black boy max show and he did what, what, what the shit with Cardi? And the crowd was like, huh? And I'm like, these little niggas, don't even know what they, what they, what they OGs are, like they don't know who they're, like the little niggas now, don't know old Cardi, you know what I mean? That's crazy. That kind of stuff makes me feel really old. >> They don't, that kind of stuff makes me feel really old because I was like, I was a young boy when like Cardi was first coming out. And like, so I know like, I've seen the whole trajectory of like where he went, like, I was really, bro, I met, I met father the other day, like, father, like, father of your listening, we know that you are. Pull up to, pull up to the show. >> Yeah, I was, yeah, pull up man. >> Bro, like, I was really, I was on my ground floor, we're awful in them. Okay, so you see how, like, if the little niggas don't know what awful Cardi is, they don't know what Jake, they don't know. >> They can't even, they don't know like, you know what I mean? So it's like, hip hop is like, it's for, I think what's happening is like, everything in music is going back to the For the Fans. But there's like a thousand niggas who are not fans, they're like, niggas this ain't, niggas is not for you, it's for the fans. So like, we keep getting this, like, push and pull, like, for as weak numbers, it's like, bro, like, niggas, that's not for you, like, what you bump in that, you know what I mean? >> That feels like a very new thing, I mean, I guess like, I don't know, I guess I didn't, I can't tell if I just didn't know about this when I was younger or if it wasn't happening. But I feel like now, all of a sudden, everybody's like, but what numbers did it do? Like, how many sales did it, oh, it has this, it only got this many streams, I'm like, stop being a fucking dork. Like, is it, is it, is it stopping a fucking dork and looking at it and do, is it good or not? >> Literally, bro, and it's like, there's no one's buying the thing, bro. It's the stream count, I didn't like, it's like a thousand and some streams, it's like one sale. So I was like, I think that's not even real sale, I mean, nobody buying it, you know what I mean? So it's like, it's a whole funny thing. Now it's like, first day streams, but then it's like niggas forget, tippy program, bro. They push you in rap caviar, of course you can get half of them in your streams, you know what I mean? I feel like a lot of things, I remember like, you know, again, I do comedy and I'll see certain people like. For us, it's like Forbes, 30, 130, you can get that or you can get like, that's your-- >> That's crazy, you know what I'm saying? >> That's you, I was like, I mean, it's not like the baron, but it is like a thing that it's like, it's a cool thing to get, if you could point out and be like, oh, I was like in that shit. And then like, I was like, you know, you get in the game a little longer, you see how something shit works. And you're just like, oh, you just got a publicist that like knows somebody that's over there. >> Sometimes you can-- >> The whole shit, yeah. >> Because when you start now, sometimes you be mad that you're not getting certain accolades. And you're like, man, you are like, you know what I'm saying? >> The bar that I always quote from Kanye from "Touch the Skies" and that like really hit me was him being like, I used to split the buffet with my girl at KFC, like I was having nervous breakdowns, like damn, these niggas that much better than me. >> Yeah, no. >> When I was starting, I used to be like, what, like they get this and this, like, and then you just, you get older and you're like, oh, like his manager knows somebody. You work over here, like his publicists work with the publicists that did this and then you start to see it and you're like, okay, and then it's crazy when you get in there and you're good at your thing. And you're like, oh, wait, niggas, I don't have to do any of what y'all niggas is doing. >> I'm like just go over here and be in my lane. >> And niggas is like, damn, niggas is like, yeah, bro, because y'all was playing jump rope over there. And I'm thinking y'all niggas is doing the most, and it's like, no, you know what I mean? But like, yeah, that's very true. A lot of this shit is programmed. A lot of it is, a lot of it is truly legitimately so much that shit actually is publicist. It literally is like, all right, who's down to pay four racks a month to like get on a magazine? Like, that is, that is some shit that I really had to like get around some stuff. >> But it's a balance though, because sometimes it's like, niggas will bully a whole shit and like, who the fuck is that nigga, you know what I mean, but then it's like, if niggas trailblazing, it's like, all right, we're just going to set it up, you know what I mean? So it depends on what kind of niggas. It's perfect like you say like I mean you were talking about Cardi like Cardi just feels like somebody was like oh he Yeah, just really was like on the exact like he just opens on a special type of way. Yeah every album Cardi drop He changed rap like niggas was it was a are we doing this now y'all of course and I remember I remember when his first his first Like official mixtape came out. I remember that's when it was called. That's when it was called mumble rap Really heavy that was during the like mumble rap Races, yeah, well of course. It was never well. It was I feel like Joe button was saying it It was like you was either old or racist one of the one of that I got a crazy ass. There you go With race would just like blackness and racism. Yeah, I feel like like there's a through line between like the most blackest like Street whatever nigga and The uncle Tom square nigga. It's just it's the same racist shit. They both think that niggas they both think black is like Oh, yeah, they they both think they both think that like black is bad Like the street nigga don't like black women that much. Mm-hmm. They want the light skin. Did you know I mean interesting? They hate niggas for a for sure, okay, and then the cool Uncle Tommy also want the white girl, you know, I mean and he also hates niggas It's like it's the same fear. It's the same like mumble rap. It's like the same like The same shit talking and looking down. It's the same shit. Yeah, it's the same. It's a different it's a different spectrum It's just a different different. Yeah, I see what you say. It's like different ways to get to the same self hate You know to get to the same point. Yeah, and then you got to learn like to not be Either to try to like stay somewhere somewhere in the middle of that is bro Yeah, I feel like I like saw somebody talk about this on the internet and I was like, oh, this is exactly right where they're just like Yeah, like if you go to like most black barbershops and any type of neighborhood you will hear the exact you'll see you're here The exact same Republican talking points. Bro, I sometimes say they'll say the exact shit and no matter what City win in America no matter if you in a nice part of you in a hood part like you You're niggas saying you're like, well, this is this is that they got to be a skit, bro Like I'm like a some like anonymous board. Yeah, like a street thing. I'm like yeah Right now like cool. Yeah, like they agree on the same shit. They be in person. It's like They find each other like what the fuck yeah, yeah, but yeah, I don't know how we got there, but that's true No, but you were talking about that yeah the party that party change. I mean, I'm the biggest I'm the biggest party fan Okay, I fuck with what he does and I always have ever since the like Was this ever since like bro boy and like fed you and like all that stuff with max I was I was I fucking all that stuff very heavy, but you're right I remember I also feel like that's how you know He's always been on some shit because pretty much every time he dropped something I feel like the general responses people being like I don't get it like I don't get it I don't know what's going on literally and then five years later. Yeah, especially when a whole lot of red came out You when a whole lot of red came out I'll never forget people be like oh, isn't he being a vampire like oh he being weird like I don't get it and I was like oh, I'm I'm fucking with this and then five now you zoom for it That was everybody five six years ago. That's what everything everything sounds like that. Yeah, Cardi I think that if Cardi would have put our whole I read V2 the timeline would have shifted whoa like Fuck what's the There was like a you know the leaks right the leak the leaks that were coming out before After dilate and before I read there was this crazy leaks that were coming out and they lost on the craziest fuck Yeah, but they didn't come out because I got something happened But I think if you would it yeah, I think you you need to put that out. It would have he would have been like the young thug I it was going somewhere and I think like to me. I feel like he's like the To me, I feel like he's the next like this the that the next like journey like I remember the first time I heard thug I remember being like oh this is the natural progression of like what Wayne was doing Yeah, you know what I'm saying like I was like yeah, of course like this is this is where it would go after Wayne And when I hear Cardi like if it feels like that like the next thing after that, but I think I think thug might like have And like flow wise. Yeah, he might got more kids like yee Cardi problem. I mean for now for now. Yeah for now. I mean for yeah, but I think that like that 10 years stint like thug made so many Crazy like and thug still got some flow But yeah, yeah, I think I think thug. Yeah, thug he He changed rap in a crazy way. I don't he he came in and it kind of just like flipped up so brand new thing You don't say it very similar to like when I heard like certain like where Cardi got when he especially on this most recent Cardi project Yeah, I was like I was listening to I was like I've never heard anything like this in my entire life You're the music and thug really Thug was doing that exact same shit. I heard I said to pick the thug I might I might just bring a thug bar later for brother We could talk about whatever we could we could it could go anywhere He could be wherever you wherever you know what I'm saying this is just so he's just so good I've read that you are big our future fan. Oh, yeah, and like I was there he came I was there you was there Speak on it. How so I was I was I was I was uh 14 years old. Mm-hmm when I first heard Yonkers and The the home he played it for me and I was like nigga. What the fuck is it? I was like this is this sounds crazy Like it was he played that in like some other some other shit like Margie's like in church Like you he's he's playing you Yonkers in church. Yeah, bro, you know Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was more tapped into the suburban shit than I was sure. I'm I really was in the hood So it was like yo, listen to and I'm like I'm like What is this you know, you know, yeah, but then I guess something I guess fit fit 15 years old. I was like wait He was like he kind of you got all of something. Yeah, but then like I just got into like the the musicality of everything Like how cool everything was and like how fun it was like I was listening Yeah, I was listening to that was the sense of like the aeromics take back church I was yo, I was at church going I was that supposed to be doing church specifically is the funniest place for you to be listening to the Earl talk about Like chopping the woman up or whatever Yeah, I don't know I mean, but I was you know, I was a little nigga, but yeah, yeah, I think I was there I never saw him live was hurt me. I never saw you know, sorry any of them why I never saw our feature live Oh, together. I mean, I was such a show in hindsight. I was such a short. Yeah, it was like a Window you know what I'm saying because it's like I also remember when all that was dropping I'm like me and them is like all like about the same age. Yeah, it's like I was like You know, you saw that you know what I'm saying. I was like you know 18 or so. Okay. I mean, I like the exact same age Okay, okay, so it's like we was like you see I was like really following it as it was happening also like I'm a super I'm suburban Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I was listening and I was like oh this is I get exactly what's going on And yeah, I also I tried to go see where they're to I was oh I was So somehow I was when I when I was like reading about you being a future fan I was like somehow we have not talked about them hardly at all. Yeah, I Future I mean the homie asked me he was like yo, like what do you he said? If Tyler came out today, how do you how do you think people react like back then Tyler? Yeah, oh, and I was like bro, honestly He changed the game so much. I can't even like imagine also somebody is like it's like a lot of chicken versus the egg Yeah, like before to be meant like I don't I can't even understand without I like the coast like I think like it's like if he didn't they try to do what he did Then it probably would have been like Not but Kanye maybe Travis got would have been like the weird guy But that no that feels that feels right. I mean Both of them are both such Kanye babies. Yeah in different ways. They like took different shit from what Kanye was doing But they're just both such Kanye babies, but like I don't know. I think Travis I think the thing about Travis is it's it's hard to to access because I don't think he really has anything to say You know you don't just he just has like he's just like style. Yes. He's just kind of like this shit sounds cool And it does sound cool. Yeah, I love it. Yeah, it does sound cool. He makes a lot of cool sound of music But it's like I've seen him in I've seen him in interviews and I've like heard his music and there's very few It's hard to track like What you got what you got going on you don't even think it was like yeah, I guess he's partying and fucking bitches Which like yeah god bless That's I think that's why we need Travis those cuz like we need a guy who's like eclectic that who's like Who's thoughtful to do that kind of shit? That's okay. You know what I mean? We need a thoughtful artist To also to be violent and to do whatever to me. That's that's too future is that's it well to me that's too future Yes, but Travis makes his own beats. Sure. That's what I mean by thoughtful. Oh, I see what you say on the production artist and just be loud on some bullshit That's Kanye. I thought you know that's exactly okay except I do I mean I also I was a little kid when like Kanye I was like a yeah, I was like a little kid. You saw the Kanye before he I was really and it's it's funny because I like forget I remember I was in probably like sixth grade when his first album came out. Okay, and like probably like what like oh Four or something like that. I was maybe I was like 12 and It's funny to look back now because now I feel like Kanye is like doing the like he's doing like extravagant bullshit like that's what he's That's what he's talking about a lot of money, but yeah But it's funny like looking back and I like watch the documentary on Netflix and I was like oh, yeah I forgot this nigga was a conscious rapper. Oh, he was really like like making like radio songs about consumer capital Yeah, bro. Like yeah, forget that that used to be like true. Well, he came up off And I so with that being said, I feel like when our future came and came in our future was so awkward Mm-hmm, and so did not fit. Yeah, it was like it was like where do we where do we put these like what do y'all go? Yeah, and they couldn't Like put them away because they were so into man I think it was buying them tickets I think it was buying them record. I think it was into that shit And I feel like people hadn't seen shows like that. Yeah, facts. You know what I'm saying? And they also were they know how to use the internet like these oh they're not you they like my blog They like nigga pick all YouTube video. Mm-hmm. Pick those merch. Like we know how to use the internet, bro You know, so like that was a leg up, but I think that our future made it okay for niggas to be weird Like I you wouldn't get oozy and cardie and villiati. Yeah, and A lot of these niggas, but our future being like they were they were the weird awkward motherfuckers that stood out Yeah, cuz even before then like niggas was still polished weird like three stacks and shit like it was weird But it was like clean weird. It was like it was three stacks, and it was like missie Elliott. Yeah For sure she was like a real early like actually like doing weird shit Yeah, but also was like in order to get on back then you had to have like a record deal Yes, I'm saying it was like there was some sort of like being passed through a machine. So there was real money behind you Literally, but I know who you were because it was not you had to be on TV or BT or whatever and you have like KMD Doom, but it was solo key. Yeah, so for this like real underground like popular underground. Yeah, our future They have friends, you know, I mean so like that. She's niggas had all kind of shit going on every type of Sid Yeah, like it was like bro like Steve Lacey is still making waves I don't especially like it's like still but our future was like a if I cannot imagine would it would be without these Yeah, that's true, and I feel like I see I mean there Like you said their tentacles stretch out in some different ways like Tyler you just like Tyler started out being like kind of like an awkward weird guy But now I feel like he's like the coolest niggas ever like he always. Yeah. Yeah, really got that shit on really crazy Like like yeah, like the he was like the nigga in high school Wasn't like and then like he realized high school. Don't fucking matter. Yeah Like it's literally just a few years, which is important. Got a job or shit. Yeah, got a house. I mean But anyway enough enough about other people on to talk about on to talk about your journey. Oh, I'll talk about your journey I was very poor. Yeah. Yeah, I was very like a black man. I Like that. Yeah, I'll talk about your journey. I Like brother. I want to talk to you about your path. Okay, but You you from the bay from Oakland. I am. Yeah, you from Oakland tell us just tell them for the people who don't know Tell us about like, you know, you're you're you're your journey. How you find the stuff for your know? Oakland man ghetto Stuff and church and school. What Oakland music what Bay Area music was you listening to? E 42 short You know, whatever's on radio. I mean Yeah, my brother had the ox. Yeah, he had iPod. Got you. We got a big brother. He was kind of like, yeah, we got a little sister And it's like I was never letting her put her shit on ever my brother. Let me put play my keys on his iPod So So I was like, can you put these rock songs? He put them on there. I bought my rock music What other type of rock were you where you into? I Love that song. I'm gonna get that give you hell. What's that? That's Yeah, who was it? I do Rejects. Yeah, that was my shit. Okay, um slipknot. I got in the slipknot later on Slipknot that's you don't need to be it's like low vibrational whitewood music sure sure Yeah, I can find that sometimes, but it's like it's like cool aesthetically, but it's nothing you did not offer me anything God Travis got Travis got some shit man. I'm not saying he's I'm not saying he's bad. I know you said you know I like like I was I was also around when I was like when when antidote came out. Yeah, come on now But Travis Travis is the homie like who like He wasn't like like in high school. He was the nigga who was like Cool as fuck in his like he was doing vaping shit. Yeah, he had vaping like like V-File He knew what all that kind of shit was but nobody niggas was wearing storage is it you know he was cooler than niggas But they didn't know it yet. I thought that was a cool car. He said I thought they was That's who Travis is so I think that's like he's gonna be the nigga forever, bro And it's like I think you need a nigga, but anyways I was playing the I was playing like a lot of American rejects and the slipknot Play-y-t's play-y-t. What was play-y-t's joint in Ireland? Is that them? Yeah, oh, they were play-y-t's that was playing. Oh, I fuck with hella in the lilac. Yeah, I was on the singles I don't know these niggas. Yeah, I'm not in I'm not in on the tickets. Yeah, I knew like a few songs, but yeah, you know whatever Did you start with did you start with the beats or did you start with the wraps? I was writing wraps and I was like in six or eight. Okay. Hello future of course. Mm-hmm. I was you know, you know who really inspired me right? Hodgie beats Hodgie beats is a real rapper Like he got to go back to them Hodgie beats mixtape's bro. I was not I will say I was less tapped into Hodgie beats Hodgie was rapping like Earl back then. Mm-hmm. He was he was keeping it up But I think it was cuz like you know The the proper the pentamonium shit. Yeah, yeah, it was different, but how did you have me rapping? I'll rap rapping. We're writing wraps first six grade You know running around Oakland not running around too dangerous. I was like around Oakland going to school Coming home on YouTube eating snacks, you know, it's all like a good life Yeah, sometimes this is boring because it's like not like Oakland out boring is just like I grew up in like a really dangerous time like this crazy like my my elementary school was like Dead smack and what they called the killing zone shit. So it's like Literally like like it was days where we were like we would go to recess and come like walk across street Then like we'll just get a K like ringing and we'd be like oh shit like turn around But it's like that's the kind of shit that like I that was the area from like my from like a little bigger to middle school Like that's in my body. So like that is what Oakland what like what I remember of it You know what I mean? So like I couldn't do much You know what I mean? I feel like and correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel like in that type of situation I feel like it's kind of like all right you kind of you like all right I'm either going go go outside and like Yeah, be outside and be in it or I'm gonna go inside and like yes, yeah, shut it out. Yeah I went outside later when I was like in high school, but I would go to like the calm part of town You know what I mean with the homies we eat pizza and fucking play music and freestyle, you know Yeah, it wasn't it was never in like Oakland for a for Oakland was just too hectic Um, yeah, I love Oakland though. It's beautiful Oakland. It's a very beautiful place. It's like it's like gorgeous Lot of less greenery on the water. You know, I mean great food Black people, you know, I mean we order areas. It's the high high. Yeah, you know, I mean, yeah, it's great But it's one of the places where you got to watch. I wonder if I can back Yeah, I definitely have had I've had a couple homies end up in some situations in Oakland I had a couple of like go to do some shows and be like oh, yeah, they got they got me for my shit Yeah, they will bust your window. It's called bippin You didn't know they will break your window and take I've gotten bit I got bit recently. No, yeah Yeah, and the one in my car. It was nothing in car. Yeah, but Yeah, bippin is real. They don't care. It's yeah, Oakland Oakland is just very much like you learn fast to like watch your back Yeah, you know, like even as a little kid like You have to learn and cook good at like you can't be fooled Because you can if you give you if you people you can get fooled that will fool your ass and do something Yeah, yeah, so yeah, that's kind of if you that's my that's like my psyche in terms of like, you know music and like Like what I did to become, you know William for sure and were you I know you're I know you're in New York now. Yeah, were you did you go straight from Oakland to to New York? Okay, got you crazy crazy switch up for sure what brought you what brought you out here instead of going like now south to LA This were the bread was that Okay, also I've been LA like I'm right there. Yeah, I've been LA thousands of time. I know what it's like I didn't know I don't know what over here is like that. But so I wanted to I wanted to get my feet, you know Yeah, yeah, that's kind of honestly. That's like how I ended up here too. Yeah, you know, I grew up in Texas. Okay, and which is You know what I need to stop. I just stop being negative about Travis guy. He's also a Texas. Come on, but isn't it man? Texas Yeah, I grew up in Texas and I thought about moving to LA when I was trying to figure out like all right What's the next step and I was just like that's not the good place to move in the next step. I was just I mean It's like I could have did it and it could have worked out fun. Like there was there was definitely opportunities out there But I was just like man like I feel like I feel like you got to live in New York while you're young. Yes, I feel like you got to live in New York Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, I mean now I if things go the way I wanted to I'll never live in LA like I'm never My goal is to never really have to live out there But like back then I was really like okay. I could go to LA, which is more similar to Texas. You know, I'm saying it's like flat Yes, flat long Like it's like spaced out, you know what I'm saying Mexicans all that stuff Bro shout out the Mexicans man bro one of my one of my favorite videos is this video of Vince Staples in the car just go shout out the Mexicans shout out the Mexicans shout out the Mexicans bro If the Mexicans stop working for a day y'all niggas would lose everything. Yeah, you you hear that Donald Trump Oh God You came you came straight over here. Yeah, okay, and how long you been out here almost two years man. Okay, gosh You see you kind of knew you knew it. Yeah, I'm a newbie. I'm not you're not used to this You feel about it. It's cool. It's it's like Being in New York is like oh, I'm here. I forgot. I was here like every day Yeah, oh, I forgot. I was in New York City, duh. I can go do the thing that is that is really cool because especially we were talking about this off Mike but you were like basically you're like I go Yeah, I'll be at the I'll be at the I'm getting and I go to the bar and then I like I'm forgetting I'm in the big apple Bro, I feel like that's for people who are listening who don't live in New York City like that's what your life for a lot of us That's what our life becomes that's right. You got your little you got you guy I go to this restaurant I go to these couple little bars and I kick it with my homies and this it becomes a little Your life becomes tears you like truly and you're like all right, they know me over here and like I know the foods good right here Right here. I know this parks over here and then like your homies will come from like out of town and they'd be like let's do some shit to be like A lot of times if you live in New York like your homies from out of town will introduce you to some shit that you've never The New Museum is new Like I saw this rooftop bar on tiktok, and you feel like I will settle my with my sister came in She never in New York ever in her life. Yeah, she came here, bro. Like I was like, all right. We went a little bit We did everything we like I got we got we were in the uber black truck We was yeah, and the man had and we once got down Empire state we want to the vendor build shit to see the whole city. Yeah, we are when God We did we went to see a brownstone in Brooklyn. We did a hell of shit And we run around like three days. Yeah, we was just like I was doing this it can be nice It can be nice, but that's like when somebody come from out of town They like all right. I mean, I'm gonna do some adventures. Yeah, you don't know what I'm saying exactly anyway overcast We gone you ready to talk about some lyrics. Let's talk about some lyrics. Let's knock it out Actually, I wanted to talk to you about a couple of your lyrics. Oh, yeah, the first the first one of your songs that I ever heard was a T.B.H Yeah, that was the first overcast you and I ever heard yeah, and I Fuck what a really heavy mm-hmm, and I really I think it was a couple bars off here. I was like oh like I'm gonna like this guy's music I feel like the first one was I'm gonna stay for the food that I'm dipping. I'm gonna talk to you granny and leave And I was like yeah Absolutely, that is the type of shit that I'm trying to do. I'm trying to go in the function. I'm trying to get a little plate I'm trying to talk to Miss Gladys. I don't need to be in the mix Yeah, bro. I'm gonna get me a little play a little to go a little plate for here and then a little play for to go Yo, this is this is the crazy. This is the same thing But some somebody was telling me like oh the homeboy love young boy. He's been back room. Oh, yeah And so I was like I like young boy, but it reminds me too much of like being at the function and like If they laugh and then playing dominoes, I want to go home Like that's for young boy music. It just reminds me like cigarette smoke P.S. 5 and like a barbecue and a fight could break out like a break out soon 11.45. Yeah, I'm so tired. I got my DS I'm ready to go. That's that's what that reminds me of but Yeah, it's the same Like that's the same sentiment. I'm gonna I want to get out of here as fast as possible. I'm just a fool Granny, I'm supposed to have a couple drinks I got a lot of I feel like I got a I got a section of like comedy homies who are really always trying to like go to care They're always trying to go to the next thing you don't say they be at one function. They'd be like oh like I heard a Spot over here. Oh, it's after it's like after our spot. And I'm like, yeah, I'm actually I'd we didn't be here for about two and a half hours Hey, don't be that late. It's we be on our phones. Well, that's that's a whole that's a whole other thing is like I'm trying to get I'm trying to get better about that too We too, but I ain't going to five places to be on my phone in five different places. I feel you Because it's because it's also just like I feel like you get older and you're like in a nothing over there Do you know the in a nothing that it's like brothers and sisters speak to talk to you're idealizing this you are idealizing The turn up and going outside you spend it money. You spend a lot of the Uber for your hours by itself You spend a lot of them and especially if you live it if you live in a coastal city Come on drink's gonna cost you about twenty three dollars and ask for one 60 and don't let it be some women around don't let it be some women around You don't lost $700 and you and you might and you might not even get no but tonight That's a real possibility. They might have just got you they might just got you for a few for a few hundred don't do it But it's just don't go to that extra spot, but yeah, unless Also A bar that I really fuck with that I really was like oh, this is like me and this man on the same type of time on Tbh She's when he was like I don't know if I'm really that guy. Okay. I'm really that guy I've been feeling I've been having my moments of moments of doubt and then like you know You might you know for you might write a song for me. I might go do a set and I'm like now I'm one of the fucking ones, but it's like in the end this the end of this song is I got to go get it It's like at the end of that I have to go like yeah no matter what I don't if I don't know how I feel I don't know if I have to go I have to go do the thing You know, I mean I gotta go get it. Yeah also Well, that's that's funny. I didn't I didn't even realize this was your lyric Well, you know what let's let's let's let's get into it. You brought you brought you brought a lyric Let's talk about it Travis got said bison tenio man put my city on slam I just never heard a new state bison tenio man in a bar. Yeah, that was like what the fuck like question to I Know it's just the you know it's fire. Yeah, but I never heard it before so it was like this is this is crazy. All right Travis Travis Travis got to be listening. We know that you are I'm sorry for the slander. I've been putting on your name. I actually do really like a lot of your songs You guys you got a track called Backyard come on back yard. We should I fuck I fuck with back yard heavy Travis back. Let's keep going. You know What else what else we got? Oh, I like this one. I like this one I like this one a lot Yeah, what's going on? Oh, bitch if you want some money you can say that. Hey, no name say that if you want some money Just say this it's because there was a thing post-COVID post-COVID is like we we had a rough three years. It was crazy It was like a lot of niggas virtue signaling lie niggas Trying it, you know, I mean a lot of niggas trying to out out black each other out black and out woke And I think like we lost the plot. Yeah, we burnt all right. We was going somewhere. Yeah I saw our videos were like niggas was setting police on fire and like joyride police cars and like it was it was it was crazy Remember that video to do to crump it in front of the cops gun The right for the space. Yeah, they put the mic song over that shit. Yeah, that shit was crazy Pandemic was crazy, but I think I think like Moving on from that. Yeah, I think like we like if we if you want money like You've got we have to we have to like it's okay for us to want we leave this there the money Like do it and about yeah about like like if you're too much money as fucked up Don't or reach for this, but we should all have money to do you know, and also very few of us have too much money Like very like it's like it's like especially like in the in the creative fields Yeah, I mean comedy your music. Yes, bro. It's some people that got too much money, but it's not It's like yeah, and everybody got a straight goal in every field. It's like 10 motherfuckers that got too much money And then everybody else is just trying to keep working literally bro like and also we like need the money We really we need the money. We really it's okay for us to say me money like you know do what you can't speaking of speaking to people This this doing well for themselves. Yeah, I forgot we were supposed to we're supposed to talk about this you You you you've done some production for for Drake. I did some production. Yeah Iceman for the ice man for the Drake, which I don't He shouldn't be calling it that. Oh, yeah, where's time? This is not this is not a good time Drake if you listen We know that you are don't be the ice man right now There's a lot of years that you could have been the iceman. I know you from Toronto I know it's chilly up there So I understand what you're doing because it's cold a good portion of the year and you like oh bird I'm the ice man. I'm I'm up north. Hey, maybe 2026 current political climate. Yeah, I don't be the ice man Special your popular in America. I'm not sure if you know about that. But Drake you they they listen to your music out here Probably not. Oh, yeah, that's why probably not but it's also like he's aware of America was going There's no way there's no way the ice situation didn't reach his desk. Yeah, and it's it's fucked up because like damn ice like Cut it out ice that's y'all shit. Yeah, like y'all gonna take the the One of the yeah, one of the one of the core ingredients of a delicious drink fuck y'all mm-hmm real for real Yeah, but yeah, we're on the ice man shit. I haven't heard anything. Okay, so it's kind of like tell us about this process because you you got to beat it that might end up on the album. - Yeah, I just was texting bro beats. - Okay. - I was like, how did you and Drake get linked up? - Yachty. - Lil' Boat. - Yeah, Lil' Boat locked it in like three, two, two, one. - Okay, so you've been working with Yachty. - Not even. I just had to sing Yachty some beats and they kind of sat and then, you know how rappers be like, is this kind of shit just happens? - I believe you. I don't know, I know some rappers, but like I don't really be in rap world. - So I kind of, it kind of like, it hit Yachty's desk and then Yachty, I gave it to Yachty actually and then he gave it to Drake and then Drake rap to it and then that kind of thing. But I don't know these people. I got, I don't, I got, I've, I've, I've spoken like, maybe 11 sentences with Drake's total. I don't, I don't know his guy. - So was it like, yeah, I'm kid, like what's, what is the collaborative process? Is it feel like you just send him some kind of thing? - Yeah, I'm just sending him things. - And then he's just like, all right, like I fuck with this one? - Yeah. - Okay. - It's kind of like a, like a present. It's like, you don't know what you're gonna, it's like shaking up a mystery box. - Oh my god. - And you open it up and then somebody's like, oh yeah, like this is, - Yeah, but I do think that whatever he says, like this is most intense, but it should ever. - Yeah. - Because it's supposed to be. I think whatever he's like, my beat is like a slower beat. - Yeah. - So I think whatever he says will be something that's like, that's, you know, you know, rap, blogs, they're gonna fuck it. - They're gonna be all over it. - They're gonna do it. And he said that, so. - Speaking of which, you got a bar on Malfkass, the joint with Malfkass. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - I fuck with Malfy Heavy. - He's here right now. Not, not, and he's in New York right now. - We got it. - I'm gonna try to do this. - You know what I'm saying? - We got it. I fuck with Malfy Heavy, but you got a bar where you said, they mad, I ain't say shit and drink beat. - Yeah, that's nice. Yeah, 'cause like, Nick is like, what do you think? - I'm like, Nick, what the fuck? Like, I have nothing to do with this. (laughs) - Nick is, Nick is actually me, I'm like, the genuine, 'cause the homies ask me, and I'll tell him what I think, you know, but it ain't a genuine, what do you think? It's like, what do you think? 'Cause you produce for Drake on the, it's like. - Oh, they think you on the side when actually-- - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Actually, you're just, you're working. - Yeah, I'm like, bro, I don't even, I don't, I have no- - And these are not your homies. - Yeah, I don't, I'm just like, I'm like, a shaker, like, you know what I mean? Whatever you think in, I'm being said, this is crazy, but, you know? But like, it's, it's just funny, it's funny, and people try to like, like, Nick and me, I don't, I don't, Nick and me for real, like, what do I gotta say about this shit? - Like, I'll be at the, I'll be at the bar. - Yeah. - I'll be at the studio and I'll be at the house. - And I'll put like, about a million opinions you can look at, my nigga, you know what I mean? - I saw Jay-Z talk about the fact that he feels like we might have like graduated past really need to do rap beef. - No, you think you should still be rap beefing? - Yeah, 'cause Nick is weird, but I think, uh-- - Have you ever had one? - No, never had one. - Okay. - But I don't think I would, 'cause it's like, wasting my breath on a nigga. Like, I got a-- - Right, so shit, right nigga. - Well, hold on though, 'cause I was like, I was like, do you think rap beef needs to be over? And you were like, nah, I should keep going. And I was like, should you do it? - No, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't do it. - Yeah, but I ain't mad at hearing this part, you know what I mean? - Yeah, I guess that is like the, that's the basis. - Yeah, I had to, yeah, like if a nigga was, you know? But it's like, I don't know, I feel like sometimes after a while, 'cause you see how it should happen, after the beef happened. Everybody beefing now, it's like, okay. - It was like so, it was so like after, like come on, y'all. Y'all trying to capitalize on shit, just happening. It just was, I don't know, but I think, I think that beef is important. I think like the right beef is important. Like the Drake and Kendrick shake was stewed for so long. - If you was paying attention, they was clearly not fucking with each other for-- - Yeah, and that's a real beef. - Versus like, nigga was like trying to like, all right. - I mean, I feel like, I forget who it was, but I saw somebody straight up admit, like, oh yeah, like we wasn't really beefing, like, we just thought that'd be like-- - Yeah. - We just thought that'd be good promotion, 'cause we both had shit coming out. - Like the Drake and Kendrick, it's rap history. - That's a historic event. - Yeah. - Like there's a lineage about what happened, how this-- And I'm a rap nurse, I love dissecting it, and seeing how this happened, this and that. Oh, he said this, so, you know, so like, you know, and it's all sports, so it's like, I understand, but it's like, nigga, I don't know. It's people who don't really aren't hip-hop, who like, try to like, I don't know. - And start themselves into-- - Yeah, it's like, yeah, but yeah, that's my opinion, that's it. (upbeat music) - What is there anything in the rap game that you feel like needs to go? - You feel like it's quiet for anything in the rap game right now? - That gotta go. - Yeah. - Probably, I'm not gonna lie. I'm gonna talk a little bit, but probably I'm fucking super super rage dog rage beats, like, I think you heard nothing. - Can Carson can do it, I'll fuck with him when he does it. - He's also in the, like, party family? - Yeah, yeah, yeah, but when Niggas aren't him, do it. And it's like, it's like, okay, bro. Like, you know what I mean, like, it's like, this is so, this is so like, this is so, this is too specific. Like, it's two of one, it's two of a thing of itself for you to try that, you know what I mean? - I would agree with that. - And it's already noise pollution on its own. So you making more noise pollution. - It is, it is a lot. Sometimes I listen to these, like, rage beats and I'm like, oh, this sounds like, this sounds like what I would imagine it would sound like if you put a fork in the microwave. - Yeah. - Like, that's what, it's really, and some of it sounds cool, but some of it, I'm just, I'm also, I'm in my 30s now, bro. So I will say, like, some, even, and I've been fucking with Cardi for like over a decade at this point. - Yeah, for sure. - When music came out, I was like, oh, this might be my last stop. I was like, I was like, I don't, I don't know if, 'cause like, I'm still with it, but I feel like I might, I feel like you just, you age out at a certain point. - OPM baby is crazy. - There was, I loved it. I thought it was incredible. And like you said, I'd never heard nothing like it before, but I was like, oh, wherever he goes next, I might be too, I might be too out of there for me to still be on it. - It's like Niggies being death grips. Like, let them, let them beat themselves. - Yeah. - If it was like, it's like, y'all ain't doing it right. Y'all ain't making it, you know what I mean? - Just like trying to do it. Like if somebody was trying to do like JPEG Mafia. - Yeah, it's like, we're let the nigga beat, let the nigga do the thing. - That is a guy who I'm like, he's one of my favorite producers. - Okay. - Overall. - Yeah, it's like, like, let the thing exist as it is. Like Niggies here go card you in the next day. - Try to make that. - I'm like, bro, they ain't even out for hour. - What was that dude? Remember when, remember when a whole lot of Rebels about to come out? - And Mario, dude. - Mario, Judah. - He's tough. - Bro, that's what fucked me up though. 'Cause like, when I heard the car was like, yeah, this guy's like putting out a whole lot. - He really? - Bro, I was like, this shit's incredible. - It was so hard. - It was a crap. - Yeah, they got mad at him. - Of course. - The thing was, they stopped doing this because it was-- - I mean, how could they not? - Yeah. - He literally was like, I'm gonna put out a whole lot of red first. Bro, I still, I'm gonna put that joint on. - Put that joint on like a couple of months ago. I was like, he was fucking-- - He was kinda-- - He was sliding. - I'm gonna run that shit back, this is it, I'm gonna get him. - I'm always curious where artists are just in general when they come through. - What's like a project, like artists that you heard recently that you feel like people should know about? - Should know about their heard recently. - Yeah, there's something that you're on that you're like, "Oh, people might not know about this." - Oh, oh, I mean, of course, DJ Harrison. He has an album called Electro Soul. - Okay. - Well, Harrison is, he's just, he's a Harrison as far. He's like, he's like the school of Billah. - Okay. - He like makes his own, he composes everything himself. It's very jazzy, it's very de-Angelo. - Okay. - DJ Harrison. - He's from Virginia, he's fire. - All right, I'm gonna talk to you. - He's just incredible. - I'm trying to think, I'm trying to think, Dan, it's hard to say. I mean, they're not, yeah, look, he was stair-labbing up. It was really good. - Whoa, I ain't tapped into them in a, in a good little minute. - Stare-lab, but they got some good little melancholy shits, man. Do you feel sad? - I'm from Stare-lab, man. - And guess what I'd be doing? - Feel sad. - Feel sad. - I remember my next stare-labbing. - You feel me? I'm after that. - You should, you should, when you have a chance, you play Stare-lab ping-pong demo. The song is called "Ping-pong" and it's about world war, like how wars affect people's countries and shit. - Okay. - But it's like a pop song. Like it sounds happiest shit. You don't understand how much this is exactly the type of shit that I be fucking with. - Yeah, bro. - That's why hey, y'all is one of my favorite songs. - It's literally, hey, y'all, yeah, yeah. And it's called "Ping-pong" 'cause it's about like bombs back and forth, ping-pong. But it's a good, it's like a happy writing. It's, yeah, you know, Stare-lab. - Stare-lab, shut up. Let me see, what other lyrics should we get into before we get out of here? Oh, yeah, you brought us, you brought us some, you brought us something from Doom. You brought us something from Doom. Let's talk about some Doom bars. - I love Doom, man. Getting more cheese and Dorito, Cheetos and Fritos. Fritos and conch, cheese on them, shit. Fritos and that, it's Fritos and Cheetos. But it's a very hungry bar. Right, he got a lot of food bars. I love yeah, it's a hungry bar. It's like in theory. That's what we love doing We love doing because he's just don't give a fuck. Yeah, and like only he can say that shit Did you ever did you ever come across him at any point in time? But also, it's okay like legend myth. I think I'll let him be the myth. I do what's what's I'm curious with with artists of like any sort Because it's like I'll say like in my in my world in my realm, but like overall I feel like if you like make stuff. I feel like they're like all right. You need to be put in shit out like Yeah, yeah, exactly. What's your relationship with like like output in terms of like when you need to be like yeah I mean, I feel like right now, and they use this spoil, but you got reals You got like short form content. You can kind of just short form me because I was unlimited amount of shit that you could yeah You can I'm you telling niggas brother this fucking this format this fucking box right here like you got to use the whole like We never had the whole phone the whole phone is a screen bro So like if you shoot something you can put so much shit in that little thing Mm-hmm, but I think it's like to just do like the sitting in front of the store You're wrapping or singing and it's like but it's so boring like you get I want to see something interesting, but I think that like Output like there's so many ways you can do shit now people people don't really care about Like the linear thing like what'd you do last? It's more like what is it now? So I think like I think Yeah, like It's up to you and how you treat it, you know I just like what you want your relationship to be yeah, cuz it's it's getting more fast Just getting more quick is getting more fast places. Just how you adapt into that like, you know There's a there's a reason we got from here to here, you know, I mean I think it's foolish to hate on some shit when it's like nigga you be on it though Like this is stupid. It's been six hours real, you know, I mean yeah, so it's like Yeah, just trying to figure out like the output is yeah, I think it's okay I think I think right now because it's like we're in a sweet spot where you can kind of push it out and not one of the Totally for better or worse. Yeah, well, but we'll get to the point where now you can't put you now It's like it's too much going on but I think right now we're in kind of a weird zone. We're like people can kind of see fresh things See it feels it to me. I feel like we're in the zone. We're already too much going on It it it or it is yeah, but if you're like a clever nigga, you know how like you know how to throw a wrench in that shit You can hack it, but I think people like are this hard to Idealize that shit cuz it's like so much going on You don't know how to fit in the machine, but like the point is to not fit It's the like the best short form I see it shit. That's like what the fuck is this, you know, I mean, it's a little bit different You know, so I think like with output you got to make sure you're doing something that's like well They're just a little bit like like foot kind of quick different, you know, keep niggas like Oh, I need to yeah, you gotta yeah, you gotta like you gotta go left. You gotta go left where they go all right Yeah, literally that's how it is. Yeah, all right Well before we get out of here, you want to listen to a voicemail real quick. Let's do it. All right No rapping. Let's go no We ain't never we'll never make a rapper rap on the show unless they unless they absolutely want to yeah, in our case They can, but I don't know. Don't worry about it Hi This is Maddie Davis. I am calling to submit the lyric When snow hits the asphalt cold looks and back top come We've got a long way to go It's beyond Martin Luther upgrade computer. Maybe it's beyond Martin Luther upgrade computer now long way to go is it going to form song featuring Andre 3,000 and Besides the fact that he goes upgrade computer in a song referring to interracial dating Which is very like computer upgrade the world to Make it so we don't get that looks in the interracial day hilarious the worst part of the song though pretty good song worst part though ends in Martin Luther King juniors. I have a dream speech Whole blown song about interracial dating not sure who green let that boss Look look look I'm gonna say one thing. Yeah, go ahead Well, he was doing What what what what what us as people was doing before 2010? That down to that we didn't we didn't know what this was for real Interesting. We didn't know what you two we did pro tools that just came out recently interesting Yeah, you couldn't get the Martin Luther King speech and throw it on a shit like that, you know No, no, you had to you was gonna have to go through the estate. Yeah figure that hole So Anything from like oh for it to 2011 was when that was crazy From them from them years Disregarded we just we was trading out. We were trying to get it, you know, I mean we've we've had worse moments I liked it. I liked it. That's you. I like your take is it could have been worse. Yeah, it's bad, but bro Now I need to look up this I need to look this up because this this woman Maddy I think she said MLK Martin Martin Luther upgrade computer. That's crazy Yeah, which I don't okay. This is on this from 2004 see oh for see this from 2004 this this is the exact yeah This is the range you was talking about It's from love angel music baby. This is the album that had like Hall of Bat girl on it and We should have stopped the Hall of Bat girl For Gwen Stefani for like that type of energy For white women pretending to be that should have been the last one for tender to be cholas. They should have before eventually Pretend to be Japanese to the port of her vet Like you want to be okay, you want to be you want to be Japanese you go over it Hard you on your way to hard juku right now say goodbye to Southern California. Yes Hold on I actually because mad at this woman when she left his voice mills She didn't say what it was about she just like said the lyrics. Yeah, I was like, okay, cool. Like that's Andre Get his bars off then she was like and it's a song about interracial relationships and I was like oh, I didn't Hey, man, let me 2000 for the 2011 the brothers wanted to fuck on the white girls, man. It was It was a normal thing we had to the one you think that's over now No, but it's not niggas are saying before it now Yes, there was a pocket. It was like the 90s you get shame for that 2000 or something Facebook came out You think that was about the time you could talk you could talk to Cindy yeah and and nobody really would know I think about this a lot there was like in in the first ASAP Rocky video that went really big he had the he had the white girl with the grill. I liked her too. Yeah You will of course we we all did but it's like I feel like in that moment I feel like we were all watching be like oh this shit hard like that's what I'm trying to you can't We must bro 2026 like if somebody did that right now they had a white girl like We didn't know we was just in a different he just was trying to figure it out Was it was in a different internet if youtube had just came out that's true three years For a couple years soldier boy was tricking niggas to play his music, you know, I mean he was soldier boys a bit soldier boy You don't you wouldn't notice but soldier boy's been a major topic at his podcast. He's he I mean a pioneer He's a pioneer. It's I saw somebody on twitter the other day talking about the fact They were like they were like the funniest thing about soldier boy is that he one says that he is the person who did everything first But two has like a video or some type of a seat to like backup He's so his voice there, bro literally I saw somebody like He probably he basically was posted like like years back being like I was on the weekend before anybody else Like y'all didn't even know about the weekend He had the video of him like like a year before like like a full year before the weekend like popped off To the weekends he knew how to use the internet, bro. Well, I mean a true pioneer like actually like really how to up the first big like internet Yes, cuz he know how to use them. Yeah, yeah, and he's like he's like 16 like doing it as like his dance house. Come on, man You can't fault us on nothing. We did from 04 to 2011 man 2012. I was like we're kind of crazy. Sure 04 11 we was we was learning we would alone. Yeah, can I read you can I read you a verse from From this song long way to go. Oh, okay. Yeah, oh it's called So it's called long way to go and it's about interracial relationship. We ain't get there, brother We ain't get there. We had a long way to go and there's still a ways to go still the pandemic happening. We all right go ahead um It says his hers his slash her skin wasn't the same color as mine, but she slash he was fine He slash she was fine if all men are created equal then he slash she was fine She slash he was fine saying slash. Let me see. It's that's what it says in the let's let's just how he sound that shit Wait I didn't peak they was together and snow his to asphalt. Oh, no, why are we asphalt? Oh, no This heavenly thing from the sky. Yeah, this thing and we're talking the ground. We're the pavement We're the pavement. Where does shit that you walk on? Of course. I'm from the talk. That's crazy as fuck I did I did not I didn't catch that until you pointed it out and Unfortunately, you're absolutely - That's crazy, that's crazy. - Oh, I see, I see what's happening. It's the lyrics say his/her, it's because it's a duet. And he's saying her and she's saying, okay, so it's okay. - I was crazy. - And it says, he was fine, she was fine. Up until the time we went out on a date, I was fine. I was fine, now I'm getting dirty looks. I wonder what they'd say. If we were blind, we were blind people. Y'all just want to fuck. - And that's okay. - That's just want to fuck. - You don't got to justify it. - You don't got to justify it, but I guess in 2004, I don't think 1000 probably did have to lift up. - But let's though, we had that in American Park coming out. And we had family guy in South Park, American Park. There's jackass, boom dog. Lips is a crazy, this is a crazy, y'all don't like Trump and pro now is a shit, imagine back then, bro. - Niggas would lose their shit, bro. - Yeah. - You can be smoking weed and go to jail for life. - It was bad. It was bad. - And then you can't go to no dispensary back then. - And then Brian hop on the TV and smoke weed on, like come on, it was a different time. - It was a tougher time. - We had to get through that first, you know what I mean? So this, it's crazy, but I know what this is, I know. - Things are a reflection of the time that they made it in. They just, we didn't know, bro. - We was, we was out in form. - We, they, yeah, pro-tools, man. It's pro-tools for us. - Yo, Andre, three stacks, Gwen Stefani, if you're listening, we know what you are. We need to talk to you about this. - We gotta keep, come on. - We need to, we gotta need you to, we'll set up two chairs. We got access to a additional chair. We need you to come on here and let's have a conversation because y'all was doing snow in the asphalt. We're not, we're not really happy about that. And I need to, I didn't know which one of y'all came up with the asphalt part of it. In which one of y'all came up with the snow part of it. - Yeah, in fact, who made that asphalt sit? - 'Cause it's all, it's bad either way, but it just, I just need some context clues and some, some additional information. Cass, I appreciate you pulling up. You gotta need, you gotta need thing. You like to plug for the people before you get out of here? - Shout out to this man. Very cool black man. This is amazing. - I appreciate it. - Thank you, man. - Great set. I had a fun time. I might have a new song out right now if I do go play it. - You got, you got water this out with Neonte. - Shout out, shout out 10K. - Shout out 10K soldiers. I got a song called Play This coming out on the 6th. So, and then we got Ice Man. So we got Play This, we got Ice Man. We got all kind of stuff going on. - And we'll talk to Drake about the title. (laughing) - We'll have a conversation. I know it's supposed to come out soon. - We're going to talk to him. Also, completely, completely separate. I just heard you join with Pigeons and Plains. - Oh yeah, yeah, that was a good join too. - Yeah, you put me on. - I could, yo, shout out to Aka Igley, man, Igley, Aka. That nigga isn't Nigeria going crazy. He's, he lives in Nigeria. - I don't know if he moved there, but he's over there. - Okay, gotcha. - Yeah, yeah, but he, yo, yeah, he's great, he's great. - Yeah, yeah, check out, check out everything the overcast got going on. Really, I fuck with a shit, I fuck with a shit. And I think if you like this, you probably will too. - You probably gonna fuck with me. - Yeah. - There's don't, oh 4 to 2011, don't think about that. - Fortunately, you wasn't making music yet then. So like, or at least I'm music that's like available to the people. So we don't even got to see what you was talking about. If I, I will say to your point, if I was making a song in like 2007, I wouldn't be proud of it. - You would have said some loud ass shit. - I wouldn't have been proud of this, I was shit, I was saying. So like, I gotta, you know, that's why so many times people be like, can you believe what they, I found this team from 2013 and it's like, yeah, like. - I could believe that. - You were different back then. I was a whole different, that's not even who I am. No, 2013, I don't even know that. - You ain't man no more. - Oh God, fuck that nigga. - Yeah. (laughing) - Cass, I appreciate you pulling up. - Yeah, yeah. - Jeez, thank you. - Yes, sir, thanks y'all. - All right, bye y'all. - My favorite lyrics is a production by Discon app. If you guys like what you hear, leave a review and tell all of me about the show. And make sure to follow us at my favorite lyrics pod on all social platforms, except for Twitter, we offer that. 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