I’ma Be at Least About a Hour Late with Opey Olagbaju

(upbeat music) - Yeah, what the fuck is up? Welcome to my favorite lyrics, podcast. We talk about music lyrics, except for when we talk about other stuff. And today we have somebody that I've known for a very long time. - Yeah. - For years and years. He's everywhere. He's writing on everything this man always employed. - Not right now, but yeah. - But generally, generally employed. - Yeah, generally. - If y'all ever watched Bob Hartz Abishola, like my father does. - Oh, for real? - Oh, my dad really likes it. - Oh, dog, that means the world to me. - My dad really. - Dude, that's so awesome, man. - I think he's like the core demo for who's supposed to like this show. - Man, we was doing jokes where we would say where it's like Jalopy. And I'd be like, what is a Jalopy? - That's a word exactly. - You know what I'm saying? You know who knows what a Jalopy is? My father. - For sure, dog. - He's familiar with it. He was around when Jaloppies was on the streets. - Dog, I was like, that's not gonna work. And in the live taping, it destroyed. And I was like, you know what? When the man knows what works. - Can't know what works. - You know CBS, they know what they know what they got going on. - Oh, for sure. - Y'all, welcome to the show. - Opie. - What's going on, man? Good to be here. - Dude, it's good to have you in LA, man. - Yeah, man. It's not here enough. - I mean, you probably are here enough for your liking. - It's, I'm here. I usually come to LA like three, four times a year. - Yeah, that's actually enough. - Yeah, which is funny for me. - I'm very, I'm very staunchly never living in LA. I'm pretty stubborn about it. - I understand. - Yeah. - It's somebody who is always threatening to move back to New York. - You're not gonna do it. - We'll see. Everybody in LA is always doing this. And I understand this is just coastal elite shit and I know, but like, this is, if you live in-- - I might go to Chicago, we'll see. - He's not going to fucking Chicago. - Atlanta, what up? (laughs) - Detroit? - And I love, you definitely not going to be Detroit. (laughs) - Shut up, shut up Detroit though, shut up Detroit. I did, I did a show there like two or three years ago and I've, I talked about this onstage sometimes but I did a show and went and kicked it with some people from the show afterwards. - Okay. - And I was like hanging out and I was partying and I was wearing a coat and I got a little hot 'cause it was like in the wintertime, took my coat off, set it down, went back, started dancing, came back, my coat's fully gone for sure. Looked around trying to see like, if I could like, if it was like coat check or something like that and Niko was wearing my coat and Niko was wearing my coat on the dance floor. (laughs) - On the dance floor dancing like nothing happened. - Oh, you were just keeping a warm for you. - Bro, and it's like again, I talk about this on stage but I straight up, I came up to him thinking like, oh, we're about to like have a problem 'cause he's gonna be like, this ain't your coat. Like I was expecting to that. I tapped his shoulder and I was like, hey man, like that's my coat and he just goes, oh, damn. (laughs) - That's it. - Oh, damn, like he just like, just like. - I got away with it. - You know what I mean? Like a Scooby Doo bit and then he just gave it back to me. I was like, I knew I should. I was like, one more song in. - I was just like, bro, you could have just went over that. You could have just left this spot. If you're stealing shit, don't stay where you stole the shit and you really could have got away with it so easily. - Do you think in his brain he goes, a nigga who lost his coat is just gonna go home? - Maybe. - Not going back on the dance floor. - Maybe. - 'Cause like, if I lose my coat, I'm outta here. I'm like, well, the night's over. I'm just gonna leave. - You wouldn't have looked. - No, I give up. - You would have searched around. - I would have gave up. - No, it was too cold outside. - That's fair. - That's because that's the thing. - The last place to look would have been the dance floor. - That's true. - That's true. - The last place, there's two places you wouldn't look if you lose your coat outside and the dance floor. - I never would have searched outside. I knew it would have been. I mean, maybe I would have opened the door and just been like, oh, see if I could like catch a nigga running away with the coat. - Yeah, but-- - Hit the cartoon. - That was very, I was also very much like, it was like a, it wasn't like an especially nice coat. - Oh, okay. - It was just like a normal, it was a North Face normal joint. - Hold on, someone from DC, North Face. Now you got my ears purged out. - It means something. - Yeah, what do you mean by like, like was it like a coat or was it like a jacket? - It was a coat. - So a North Face coat, that's a pretty nice coat. (laughing) That's a good-- - Never mind, never mind. - You know that, that's like at least $500 you're dropping. - It wasn't, I got, it was a thrifted coat. He didn't know this. - It was a thrifted coat. I got this coat second hand for like 60 bucks. - Okay. - And I still, I don't have it anymore, I've since-- - You lost this to somebody else. - I did. (laughing) - What if I was like, give me that night, put the next night thing out here. - The coat will be mine. (laughing) - He's following me around. - He's dancing right now with the coat. (laughing) - He's like, yeah, yeah. - I knew I was gonna catch that nigga slip in one day. - For sure, for sure, for sure. - Remember when I was living in New York, we were out dancing. - Yes, I do. - We went to the tour we launched show. - We did, but I think this was another night. - Okay. - But, I remember that's where we launched from. But we were out dancing, and that's when I just bought the Canada Goosh coat. Remember, I moved to New York and I was like, I can't do this, and I punked out, and I got me a Canada Goosh. And we went out-- - And that's an expensive coat. - Now that's a really expensive coat. I dropped money on that. - That's real bread. - But we went out and then I put my coat down, and I was at the dance floor, and I left, and I saw somebody was wearing my coat trying to leave. Remember, and then you back, do you remember this? You backed me up like, "Yo, that's his coat." - No, actually the bouncer was-- - The bouncer was just like, "Wait, how would we know?" And the reason we knew was my coat, 'cause I burned. I had burned my coat. Remember that, I don't know if I ever told you, you know the story, you might know the story, remember it. Then that I got passed the seller. I was wearing my Canada Goosh coat, and I was so hyped that I got passed. I burned my coat on one of the candles. And I didn't realize it. - But you were like, "Yo, no, that's his coat, 'cause of this." - You remember this? - No. - We knew we were faded. - Yeah, that's the thing is like, I definitely remember, if it was the Tory Ma time, I definitely was like-- - It was like, right, or maybe a week or two before the Tory Ma. - Oh, okay. - Then, just in general, I guarantee you I was lit. - Yeah, we were, I guarantee you I was going up. - In fact, it's in pandemic. - Yeah, and that's also, that's when you still drink. - I, yeah. I feel like-- - Yeah, I kinda, I'll drink here rarely. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I'm more of like a psychedelic guy now, if I'm going out to have fun. - It is funny to like, it's funny. There are certain moments in my life where I'm just like, "Damn, I'm in a different stage of life." Now, like, for so many of my friends, I'm like, "Oh yeah, I knew you before you were sober. "I knew you when you still did." - Yes. - "X, Y, and Z." - Absolutely. - "Don't do anymore, and now turn away." - Don't watch this. - Is your mom watching all the stuff that you're in? - Yes. - My mom does too. She's every episode of my podcast. - Is your mom have Google alerts on you? - Oh, I don't know. I don't think she knows how to set those up. - I don't know who taught my mom this, but anything I do, she'll send me a link to. - Oh, she's already aware of it. - Yeah, she's aware. - I mean, she does. Mom, when you're watching this, text me or call me. Tell me if you got a Google alert on. - Yeah, yeah. My mom has seen every, like my mom used to watch my old anime podcast. - You got an anime podcast? - During the pandemic, like for like six weeks. - Interesting. - Yeah, we all tried something. We tried something. - Yeah, I did a podcast during the pandemic as well that I don't know if it's still up, but if it is, don't find it. - What was it called? - Don't find it. That's, it's just, you know, again, we were all looking for something. - We were like, "Hey, I got nothing to do "in that period of time." - Yeah, and I was like, "Oh, this is a good time "for podcasting in hindsight." That's not where I need to be doing it. - But that time, I would definitely say pre-pandemic. I mean, it was also like, I would just move to New York. I think you would just move to New York. - Yeah, we were just like out. - We were just having a blast, too, it was so fun. - Having a blast. It's also like, I think about those times all the time, 'cause I was like, I was broke during that time. - Yeah. - But still having so much fun. And I can't tell if it's less fun now, because we've all changed, because of the pandemic, or because I'm just an older man now, because it's been seven years. - I think it was a different stage of my life. - I think it's more pandemic, but honestly, I think the pandemic just fundamentally changed everything, and we just kind of got jaded. I think I remember people who are our age now, and they still had like, a little bit of light in their eyes. (laughing) - You're right, man. - Yeah, the pre-pandemic light. - The pre-pandemic light. And I feel like I see people now who are our age, and just the comics we knew, and even my friends, there's something that the pandemic did. Not to bump anybody out, but I just think it made us kind of like, it just shook everything. And we kind of see everything for what it is. And like, New York was especially had a different energy at the time. LA pre-pandemic had a way different energy. And now it's just kind of, if there's like a tint to it. - Totally. - Do you know what I mean? - And it's like a thing that we still, whatever it was, before whatever energy we had pre-that, we have not gotten it back. - No, no, I'm not sure. - Me and Gary and Alex used to do a dad, which you did. - I loved that. - Which was like, that was one of the best shows in the city. - Before it was a monthly show, and before the pandemic, it legitimately, when I was like broken, sad and cold, it was like my favorite day of the month. I would look forward to it and we would party afterwards and it'd be like a whole thing. And then we tried to bring it back post-pandemic and it just like-- - The vibe is gone. - It never hit the same. And now we don't even really do it. 'Cause it's like, we couldn't find whatever we used to have. - Sometimes I wouldn't even be on dad and I would just come for the hang. - I wouldn't even go to a show. I would just be like, oh, I'd do my spots wherever I was doing and I would go, oh, I gotta get up early, but I have another show. And really I just wanted to go hang out with dad. 'Cause it was just like a good post show hang. We really were just like having a ball. Like there would be spots I don't want to say now, but like where I would go out there in my spots, two in the morning I'd be out drinking with some random businessman or whatever. And then next year I would be at work like four hours later, hungover, but it was fun. - And again, I keep sometimes I'm like, Man, is this just, am I just older or was it better? I'm asking myself that question constantly, but I do think it was better. - I do think it was better. - I do think there was a sense of adventure, and then I think we went inside for like a year and a half. - It's a global pandemic. - We went inside for a unit. And especially like I was in New York when all this shit popped off. - Yeah, I was too. - And were you? - Yeah. - When it started, you-- - I left in June of that. I moved back to LA. Like I left not knowing I wasn't gonna come back. I just started sub-leasing. I've been sub-leasing for like five years. - You're still doing that? - Yeah. - What? - Because when during the writer strike, I actually was moving back to New York. Like I literally was moving back. I was on the road, I was in Iowa, and then I was hitting Austin, and then I was going to Alberta, Canada. And then in Iowa, my agent called me and was like, the strike had just broke. My agent called me and was just like, hey, you got a writing job opportunity. - Let's go. - With Bob Hartz. And I was like, oh, okay. And literally all myself is in my mom and garage. Like I had a place I was sub-leasing. I think me and you face time a couple of times in an apartment, and we did a Google Hangout. - We did a Google Hangout. - And let's just speak to this, 'cause we were talking about this a little bit off mic. OP is, and I actually don't care that much about this, but OP is-- - You're one of my few accepting friends. - I just, you'll download WhatsApp just to talk to me. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - But OP is a staunch Android user. - Yes. - OP, OP, you know, if you're familiar with OP standup, he has a whole bit about like being dedicated to being on the Android. And I personally, I don't really care-- - You don't care at all. - I do think the anti-Android sentiment is a little overblown. - For sure. - I think the way that people talk about Android users is-- - It's a drawgatory. - It's very drawgatory. And it is like-- - I can't get on Raya. - Why? - Yeah. - Is that true? - Yeah, you can't do-- - You know, I was for Raya. - They will put it in the Play Store. - Y'all are really, y'all are really-- - Nothing I wanna be on Raya anyway. - Sure, sure, sure. - Raya, Raya post-bandemic sucks from Raya right now too. - I never, I've never really, I was on a dating app for six weeks in 2016. - Ever? - Ever. - I've never went on a date with anybody from a dating app or anything. - You're not missing much. - That's what I figured. - Yeah. - And I'm just, I'm not that good at texting. 'Cause that's like-- - I'm not that good at like, if I was on those apps, I'd be like, hey, do you wanna meet up? - Yeah. - 'Cause that is like, I'm good at that part. I'm good at the face to face. I'm not really good at holding a conversation, especially with a stranger. - When I'm bored, I will download a dating app and I will just do it to text. But now, if I wanna meet up with somebody, I'm more honestly Instagram. Instagram's the move. Instagram's the best dating. And you can get a way better, I think you can get a way better sense of somebody's whole deal. - And it's more natural too. And through, also, that's a big part of it with me and the apps is like, I legitimately do feel like, if I had to answer some of those prompts, I would commit self-harm. - Yeah, yeah. I mean, I don't answer them. I just like put like a little like, ditto and I'm like, yeah, whatever. - If I had to be like, oh, what kind of sandwich would you be if you were shut the fuck up? I'm not doing that. - You wanna say bacon and cheese? - Come on, man. - Sandwich. - See, no, now you fucking-- - Now you got me. - You were in their trap. - You were in it. - No, I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that. Anyway, the OP is an Android user. I will say, I don't really care, but I will say the thing about you guys is you're so proud of yourselves. You're so, every, all I got, you and my homie Justin, my homie Justin. - Okay. - Justin, if you're listening. - I'm talking about you. - Justin, man. Stay strong, brother. - Honestly, you and Justin would get along very well. - Probably, yeah. - I do think y'all would fuck with each other probably. - Yeah, it is, but I do feel like y'all are digging y'alls heels in on not being iPhone users. - Yeah. - Just 'cause you like the fact that people want you to do something else. - You like being contrarian? - It's the contrarian in, but there's also like, okay, can I be really vulnerable? Can I be vulnerable? - We're on my favorite lyrics this time. - I like the concerted effort it takes to have to communicate with me. I'm like, do you really want to talk to me? Do you really want to talk? If you really want to talk to me, if you really want to see my face, I want you to take the extra step. 'Cause there's a part of me that doesn't like the whole texting and everything like that. I want to talk to you. - I'm a phone like on the phone. Let's have a conversation type of person. - Interesting. - So if you want me in a group chat, you really gotta want me in a group chat. If you want me, 'cause I'm gonna carry my weight, I'm gonna go above and beyond. I'm gonna make the group chat pop in, but you really gotta want me in there. 'Cause I'm like, I want to be where I'm celebrated, not tolerating. (laughing) So if you want me, I wrote that bed about a girl who is just like, oh my god, you're having Android. And I was just like, what if I want a FaceTime? I'm like, well, download WhatsApp. And she did. And we dated for a while. So it's like, this girl really wants me. - Ultimately, it's also not that difficult. You know what I mean? - It's not. - It's a couple extra clicks on your phone. - A hundred percent. Google Hangouts is available to everyone. This is like a Google Hangouts ad. I used to do FaceTime on Instagram and stuff like that. And I'm just like, I like that little concerted effort to like want to connect with me. Just try one extra thing. - Exactly. - Try one extra thing. - 'Cause to me, connection is like, so superficial in our common era. And I'm like. - Speak on it, King. - Yeah, speak on it. And we disconnected. - We're so disconnected. And I'm like, I don't like the superficialness. Like if you really want to talk to me, get on the Zoom, here's the Zoom link. - Zoom link. - Here's the, here's the moment to like really connect with. - Zoom link does feel nasty. It does. - 'Cause here's the thing. I pay for Zoom premium. So I like the control. This is Daddy's Zoom. (laughs) You know, if you're arguing with me, you get a mute. - Uh huh. - You get a mute, you know. - 'Cause you're the host of the whole room. - I'm host and baby. - You make all the decisions here. - Exactly. - Exactly. So that's what it is with Android. It's like, we don't really, like I do this in the bit. We don't really love our phones. - Sure. - It's not a concern. It's like, we are, every Android user has, in my opinion, avoid an attachment. - Yeah. - And we just want to make sure you really want us. That's what it is. - It's a test. - It's a test. - It's a test. - And this is what I'm talking about with y'all. - This is what I'm talking about. It's like y'all be on some weird, like, there's some weird psychological games going on with this. - But would you argue, aren't we worth it? - I don't know. (laughs) I don't know. I don't know. Y'all don't cause me any great inconvenience, but if it did cause me a great inconvenience, I would probably say no. - But we weed out people. - Because of that. - You're one of the few people I feel like I can connect to, and I can be like, yo, it's simple. - It is. - It is super simple. - We fall back into our friendship super easy. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - But there's other people around us like, I kind of don't want to talk to you anymore. And their phone helps. - It's a good buff. (laughs) - The phone is good. Honestly, you and Justin would get along very well. - Dude, shut up. - Yo, Justin, if you see this, DM me, bro. Let's say-- - I'm really here and you're talking about this. - Come to LA, let's hang. - Sounds like the exact type of shit that Justin would like to say. - Yes, yes. - Anyway, OP, let's get to the music. - Let's do it. (upbeat music) - Let's get some music. - You, you born in Nigeria? - I was born in Nigeria, yes. - You moved to the States at what age? - I was six years old. - Six. - Okay. - Six, yeah. - Do you remember, I mean, that's pretty young, so you might not, do you remember what was like happening musically in Nigeria at that time? - Oh, so the thing about me and my specific upbringing is I grew up in a very Christian household. So my mom-- - Then we were talking with secular music? - No, not, like, I mean, so the kind of secular music I would be listening to is that we'd go to like, you know, Nigerian house parties or family parties. So it would be a lot of Nigerian high life, like Felikuti, that kind of music. There's just one record. I should have known this off the top of my head, but it's called "My, you are my sweet, T, my lady." Let me hold you. - Sounds nice. - That song goes at a Nigerian wedding, that song goes. And so those would be the type of records I would be listening to. But then when I came to America, you know, I would be introduced to more secular records when I go to my friend's house. Like my friend's like, I'm a boy, I'm Mari, my friend Maya, my boy Michael. They would play some of the oldies and they would play some of the current records. And at home, you know, my parents, we went to a very, you know, to a church and they had a list of records you could buy and albums you could buy. And you know, when people were listening to like DMX, I was like listening to Creed. Because Creed was perceived as a Christian band. - They were technically Christian. - They had a lot of Christian iconography. - They kept it kind of tug-of-way. - Make it two praise and worship 100%. - You had to kind of know what they were talking about, which is Creed was Christian. - 100%, so like I wasn't, I would sneak rap, but I wasn't like, and I had a hunger for it. But I couldn't get access to it until, you know, my cousin started giving me like albums that like, my older cousin's like my big brother archetypes. - What were they giving you? - They were giving me life after death. They were giving me ready to die. Elmatic, classic texts. - Yeah, low-end theory. - Oh yeah. - Was there a little bit older than you? - Yeah, yeah, yeah, way older. Like they would give me like cassettes. This is how old I am, cassettes of like Whip-A-Peele, just like those type of records were messing my brain up. They're just being like, "Whoa, what is this?" And then where it really was like the melding of everything was like, kinda came out with Jesus walks. And my parents were like, "Okay, you can buy this album." So my first like rap record that I was allowed to buy was called Drop Up. - Damn, that's a really cool one. I've talked about this for the listeners on the pod, y'all will know this, but I've talked about this multiple occasions, but the first record, my parents were also very Christian, so they wouldn't let me get anything with the parental advisory label on it, because they'd be like, you don't need to be here and whatever's on there. And so I got a target gift card when I was like, maybe 12 or something like that. And they're like, all right, you could get something, but nothing with the sticker on it. So the first album that I ever owned was Nick Cannon so far would be P. - Was that the one with Jiggolo? - Yeah. (laughing) - So first album I ever owned. - That didn't have the, can I live? - I probably did. - I feel like he only put out like one proper album. - Okay, okay, he had Jiggolo, did he have parents to understand? - Yes. - Dude, I remember this record. - Yeah, or, I remember he had that, that was either on his album, or it was on the Jimmy Neutron soundtrack. - It might have been the Jimmy Neutron soundtrack. - 'Cause I do remember, it was like him and like, little Romeo. - Little Romeo, yes, and then, so there was a girl from the 3LW. - Was it Christina Millionaire? It might have been. - It was either Christina Millionaire, or the girl from 3LW. - Was Christina Millionaire, not in? - Over, oh, oh, I do know who you're talking about. They're like ethnically ambiguous. - Yes, yes, yes, yes. - Yeah, I think it might have been. Was she the promises, promises girl? - I believe so. - Yes, yes. - Parents just don't understand. - Oh, 3LW, all 3LW. - It was 3LW. - It was okay, yes, yes, yes. - Okay, no, no. - I remember that record. - I just don't understand. - No, no, no. - They just said, yeah. - That was, I used to go crazy in the 6th grade dance. - Romeo Miller, Nick Cannon. - Yeah, and it's the whole group. It's the whole 3LW. - Oh, he was gone by the full name, then. Not Lil Romeo no more. - Oh, maybe, maybe. - Yeah. - I mean, that's what it says on here at least. - Okay. - I do feel like, in '01, I still feel like he was Lil Romeo. - He was. - He probably had to be Lil Romeo. - Yeah, they got the, yes, he was still Lil Romeo. - Okay. - The lyrics thing that I saw had, had a Romeo Miller, but yeah. - Shout out, shout out Lil Romeo. - Did your parents let you make you listen to Christian rap? - Not, they didn't really, my parents didn't actually police what I listened to 'cause I don't think they really were aware of like, all the ways in which I could get music. You know what I'm saying? - Yes, yes. - When I was younger, I had like, I had like albums with no sticker on them or whatever, and they like knew that I had those albums and I would listen to the radio. But then by the time I got older and you started being able to like illegally download music, I was doing all of that on the family computer and they weren't really aware of it. - Yes. - Like I had an iPod and they knew that I wasn't buying music, but they weren't really familiar with what all I was listening to at all. - You didn't hear what I had? - What's up? - The Zoom. - I'm not even playing. - Of course, the Zoom had a Zoom. Of course, the Zoom had a Zoom. The Zoom probably ultimately only sold like 500 products. They probably only sold 500 zones. - My best friend growing up, also a due named Justin. - Another Justin. - A different Justin. - Amy of Justin. - But also, I actually, I remember the Zoom, Zoom low-key being kind of tough. - The Zoom was tough because you could give people like five of your songs and they could listen to those songs for like a certain amount of time. - What? - A certain amount of time. - Yeah, they were like letting you have it. (laughing) - It'd be like, all right, okay. So we gonna let you hold this off for two weeks. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And then it's gonna expire. - It's gonna expire, yeah, yeah. - I remember, I think the Zoom had like video on it too. - It did. - Yeah. - And then my Zoom broke and then I got an iPod video. - Okay. Okay, so eventually you did come over to Apple. - I did for a second. - I think Zoom actually wasn't inferior product. - Yeah. - I think the Zoom actually-- - I will concede the Zoom wasn't inferior. - They didn't make a second Zoom. - There was a Zoom too. - No, a Zoom too. - Well, I think no one was like, like people, I think Apple at that point just had the marketing on just mad. - They had those cool commercials with the silhouette, the backs in the wedge, you know. - With the earpods in. - Yeah, it was cool, it was smooth. - It was smooth, it was happening over there. But anyway, D, you, you're in-- - D.C. you're Maryland, you were Maryland. - I was in Maryland, yeah. - You were in Maryland. - So we were spring Maryland. - Okay, got you. And what, by the time you got there, by the time you found your own music, were you finding? - Oh, so I was listening to-- - Outside of Creed. - Any RD. - Of course. - Huge for El Stand. - We have this in common. - Yes, I was listening to a lot of little brother. - Knife wonder. - Of course. - Murge. - Slum Village? - Slum Village. - Slum Village. - Of course. - Oh, you had your fist up. - I had my fist up. - I had. - I was growing on my hair. - He was about empowering me. - I was a backpacker. - Of course. - And you know this. It all accumulated to Lupe Fiasco. I was the biggest Lupe head. - Was. - Yeah, I'm still a huge Lupe head. I'm still a huge Lupe head. I am still, I still think he's the greatest lyricist of all time. Greatest lyricist. I didn't say artist. The greatest lyricist of all time. And those of y'all who are listening, y'all are seeing the contrarianness in open. - It's not contrarian. - Y'all are seeing this. - It's into the Larry, bro. - Because it's like, Opie, you know that's not true. Opie really will. I've been when Opie used to drink. There were multiple occasions where everybody would be late and it would be the end of the night. And some kind of music would pop up and Opie would be like, he would say that he'd be like, "Lupe Fiasco's the greatest artist." - I didn't say he's the best. - He's the best rapper. I said he's the best lyricist. I always said he's the greatest lyricist because Kendrick is a better artist. - Sure. - Kendrick is the better artist. - Kind of objectively. - Objectively he's the better artist. As somebody who, I love Kendrick too. But lyrically, what Lupe does on the records and being able to, well, first of all, I think that Lupe is Kendrick, like Lupe is Kendrick's archetype. Like, there is no Lupe, there is no Kendrick without Lupe. - Interesting. - And this is a take. - To me, there is no Kendrick without Lupe. - This is really a take. - Okay, I'll come with you. - Look at the conscious rapper architect. There's no, there's no Lupe without like a Talib or a Nas. But Lupe to me was the first person to take the nerdy aesthetic of a guy from the West Side of Chicago and like put it in a way that was digestible and still doing high level like concepts. He did a whole concept album about a dead, reanimated zombie. - He did do that. - And it went platinum. - Shout out, shout out to the cool. - Yeah. - Shout out to the cool. - And that was a second album. - Important to me what I was like. - Food and liquor is 15. - Food and liquor is a classic. - Well, food and liquor, I do not know if I would call that album a classic. - What I will say it is now album that I've listened to a lot and then I liked a lot in 2006. And it's, go to the release until it still holds up. - I believe it, so does the cool. - I liked the cool a lot, which was like a full concept record. - I would even argue, mixtape for mixtape. Loupé was up there. The only person out mixtape in Loupé at that time was Wayne. Fair and high first, one and two were amazing. - There was a lot of good shit on there. - He was doing things, he was having verses where the first verse will get disted by the second verse and the third verse will be like talking about what just happened in like a very meta way and he was pulling it off in a way that was like, no one was, there's a reason why Drake says in that 6 a.m. in Toronto line goes like, I can't believe I made it after Loupé. Loupé legit was doing things that no one had seen before. - I will, I will come with you on this point. I will say that Loupé was doing a thing. I think Loupé and like the cool kids. - Yeah. - You know who, the cool kids, no one was touching. - Who were coming around at the same time. We're trying to get them on there. The cool kids of you listening, we know that you are - Chuck English. - Pull up to the show. - Chuck English loves comedy. - He does. - I feel like he's, I do think I can get in touch with you. - You can get Chuck for sure. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I've seen him like like a bunch of like comedic posts. - Yeah, he's like around and I feel like we know a lot, we know a lot of the same folks. I forget, he, 'cause I think he lives out here. - I think so, yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - But I feel like they were doing a thing that I think for like that generation. I think that I think tribe was doing a similar thing for like their generation. - 100%. - For our generation like a version of it where it was like, all right, if you were a kid that like couldn't like actually relate to Street Shit. - Yeah. - Which like I couldn't and you couldn't. - No, no, no. - We wasn't at a step. - We was not in it like that. But it was still like, it was not dorky. - No. - It still was like really cool shit for niggas who just was like regular niggas. That was not beating niggas up and like grabbing people. - For the like nerds who weren't dorks, who liked cool shit and wanted to like get at girls. - Sure. - You had the foreels, you had the Kanye's, you had the cool kids. - Guys who liked comic books and Jordans. - Yes. - It was really, they made music for, I never really got into comic books, but in theory. - Yes. - Guys who liked Dragon Ball Z and Am Bap. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - It was just for, it was tailor made for us. - Yeah, exactly. - And look, we were annoying. - We were the core demographic for all of this. But there's a lot of us out here. - Oh, yeah, of course. - There's so many of us. I think ultimately there is more of us than there are niggas that's actually in the streets. - I would agree. - And society doesn't want society doesn't want you to know that. - I would agree. - They want you to think that every black man in the country got a gun. - But that most of us who watching Dragon Ball Z. - Here's the sad thing though, is like, as a nerdie did. I love the street shit. - Of course. - I would listen to more, before loopa, I was banging GZ. - Of course. - I was banging, I was banging, I was bra. - GZ Gucci. - GZ had a triangle hold on me. - That's East Coast shit. - I was doing this, it all my fault. I was doing all this. I was saying, a sicker, sicker, sicker, sicker, don't you? Like I was doing all the J.R. writers shit. - Yeah. - I wanted to be part of Dips. I was this close to buying a really big Averax jacket. - Oh, it's been incredible. - It's not too late. You could find that for a reasonable price. - I probably could. - You could get that, get you a big ass bandanna. - Yeah. - Thank you guys a bit, did it? - And now you got the car to the sun, Detroit. - Yeah, well, probably. - But. Yeah, I do feel like and also like I also Street shit like I love that shit - young GZ is an incredible artist fucking Gucci mains as a fucking like these are like all-time legends For sure, but it is just like shit that you could listen to and appreciate because the music was good And you were like oh these niggas are like really painting a picture Yeah, but you could not put yourself in those shoes because you're like, I don't really I don't be on that all the dope dealers I knew they were cool dudes and they got all the girls and I was just like damn you know I would dress like them, but I'm like man. I can't pull this off It's just wouldn't be it wouldn't be believable for sure, but then he's trying to I saw the front music video And I was like hold up. That's a nerdy dude Frail is hell. Yeah, and he's talking to these bad junsh and he skateboarding and he skateboarding in his house and his house Which was and he's got a he's got a accurate like a accurate sports car. I'm like hold up You're like I can wrap my head around this. Yeah, I could do this. Yeah, I could do it. He's hanging out with Jay-Z He was like he was with Jay-Z on a regular basis. So I was like. Oh, that's me. Mm-hmm. That's what I'm gonna be yeah And it was very like I want to say subconscious, but it was for sure I don't know if that's how you felt when you saw that music video Not directly, but I do feel like there's a I mean frontens like Actually one of my favorite songs of all time like I would but it's at least in my top 10 if not top five favorite songs ever Oh, yeah, and I never I never get tired of hearing it every time it comes on it like makes me excited I know every single word. Oh, it's it's it's the bridges perfect. Yeah, the bridges perfect. Jay-Z versus perfect It's like and the vibe of that party. I'm like man. That's where I want to be. Yeah, that's really well I want to be exact same type of party. I'm trying to be at present time as a grown-up I'm still trying to find that party dude that party like everyone who's in that party Nego's there. Siphah sounds is in there. Well, yeah, Siphah's in that music video. That's crazy. Is that crazy? I actually didn't know that. Yeah, yeah I think he's in that video. I hope I didn't imagine this but like That part of the more London's in the video or London's in the video Man that whole video just like change it changed my brain. Whoa, it changed. I was just like, Oh, I like this aesthetic Mm-hmm. I like this vibe. It's not like a bunch of dudes like doing like this I'm like, oh that's who I am because it's like everybody's being cool everybody's being cool But nobody's nobody has to be tough knowing stuff and that is that's actually I think we're pointed to is just like I was like whatever parties young jeezie was that. I was like, I don't want to hang out there. I've been to those parties. I'd never have fun Wait a second wait speaking to which wait we got to talk about this Before because I think you're probably the first person who this is true for you were a rap artist manager. I did Yeah, you managed. How many artists you have? Technically - okay technically - who were the artists names? One was one was the name Chris Caches. He was a producer type. He was more like I would argue like dark core Like he was kind of more like you remember Necro. Do you ever listen to Necro? I didn't listen to it, but I know it was going on He was like more like he wanted to be more like like Eminem Yikes, and he was good. He was pretty good But anytime anybody's like oh, I want to be like him in him. Yeah. Yeah. I mean this was before the rise of a lot of co-worker music Sure sure sure and the other was his guy named Dexter Fitz who was kind of like on the same like cool kids Like Mac Miller like this was like 2009 and We were in the DMV. There was like a really up-and-coming music scene. This was like post-wala This is right when Wala is like starting to blow up. Wala had probably going up. Well, I guess he probably I'm sure by then He was definitely popping in the area. Yeah, I feel like I became aware of Wala probably like oh eight oh nine Okay. Yeah, so Wala for us Because the thing about Wala was that Wala is so important Like to the area and just like in my opinion to the music in general, and I know I'm biased Yeah, I'm very biased because he's Nigerian. He's he's you know Raised in DC and Silver Spring where I'm from and he was just shouting us out and riding for us in a way that I had never seen to this day I've not seen someone ride for this for the area like that. Mm-hmm to this day because Wala No one was rapping Like there was a couple people like Tabby Bonay and South East Slim were rapping, but Wala was doing this thing because a lot of people wanted to go go Mm-hmm, and go goes like a very DC area type of music. It's a lot of percussion Low-key sounds like variations of high life. Okay, in my opinion like the percussion's a go go or are so insane They're so African. Mm-hmm, and so I Wanted to be in a go-go band. I played drums in high school because I was like I'm a do-go-go and There used to be all these leaders of go-go bands and an noir big G Was a was a leader and he was the closest we had to a guy who would be like the way a go-go band leader is He calls people out here yell out different hoods. He'll yell out like just to kind of keep the peace at the party Make sure everybody's represented exactly cuz go-go would be get mad violent like if you weren't like Looking right you could get like stomped out while people were beating their feet like right in front of your face It's shit. That's the really fun thing to me about like like Like black music from like our parents era is like it always sounded so Jolly and fun. Yes, but it's like a lot of it's like those like sugar hill gang. I was you're like They make us probably stab somebody in my life You know that all that like autumn disco dudes autumn like old soul singers. They're making like these Motown eggs They're making a song they'll shoot that was shooting if they need to they should be some really legendary band leaders Like a little Benny used to do records that like like let me take let me show you how to go-go And then you'd have a record about Elmo, but this is all to keep the kids chill And you know my uncle ironically put me on go-go and he started playing me over with go-go records But then as I grew up, you know, I started listening to them more contemporary bands like UCB and In junkyard and an noir was the one dude that sounded like a rapper and then while a If you were to like look at like the progression of the evolution of like a go-go to a rapper While they would be like the standing human being and While a was taking records like one thing about a player, which was like a huge go-go anthem And he was rapping rapping on them and it was like he was like unifying the area like he was DC Maryland, Virginia He was unifying Walee made the DMV copy. I mean shout out. I feel like I feel like I feel like Walee definitely agrees with you. Walee is Unbiased to me a top 10 artist Artist you're you are getting takes off today Walee getting takes off today, and I'm not Walee does not get his flowers, bro. Well, and I think he is not getting his flowers. Well, I feel like he's always saying that I feel like he's right. I do think he's right. It's it's we it's weird with with stuff like that Though with with any artist with any artist. I feel like if people keep telling if people keep hearing you say like Y'all don't appreciate me enough. Y'all don't appreciate me enough. Y'all don't appreciate me enough Then everybody eventually is just like all right nigga. We're like yeah, I and I get that I appreciate even if you are right you kind of even if you like even if like people are late and they're not Appreciation you sometimes you got to just let the public do what it does for sure And then sometimes with some artists we like we look back But you look back and I'm like, oh fuck this nigga has Seinfeld on his mixtape. He did because like like who's doing that? He did a Seinfeld themed mixtape, which was like the thing that like really helped him blow up which legitimately was like a brand I'd never seen nobody dude and he had he had he had New York Niggas and New York is in LA listening to go-go records Yeah, go-go was dying and while they pulled it out and made it something him and a best kept secret So those guys were like changing go-go beats and adding like real dope like like since and stuff to them to make them sound more You know palatable for the mainstream, but like and I know I'm like I'm sticking on the DMV shit But like it was legitimately as somebody watching it all go down as a kid like who would go to these like sneaker events and music events you be like whoa, I'm seeing like a culture being like put together and he's kind of at the core of it all and Some people are like oh, he's mass sediti and shit like that, but it's like that's a lot of pressure You're the symbol. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and like the wizards weren't good and right now the the rest games weren't good You could say that pretty much you know, you could say that pretty much any time in the last day Yeah, and so it's like he was really the pillar of the city Yeah, this is a city that you know had him or Katie Katie was holding y'all down Katie I love Katie as a player, but he was not And I get it man. I get it Katie He's like I don't want that pressure because he saw how we treated while a yeah, we didn't treat dark I was always like while a is arc is the key But you look at who was getting more love logic was getting more low Well, that's and I like lodge logic was around that we knew Bobby that that that that's why they was really holding it down for Everybody dog. Yeah, he was given the go-go guys love. He put he put the UCB leader on wreck big records Big record. He was really city first and As as somebody who was there who was seeing and I'll go down I Feel like we didn't give him the like the flowers and you know, he just kind of like he probably internalized it It seems as though he didn't seem so he absolutely did. Yeah, he probably never got to enjoy his moment Sure and be like yo you are a dog He also like and you know, obviously like you're from the area so you can speak to that I feel like as somebody who's not from the area But just like really was like tapped into the that that era of artists like I was very Tied into that. Yeah, I was very like that was like I was a teenager and I was really like looking for new artists Yeah, like really remember when that class massive guys came up with him and like Big Sean. - Big Sean, Big Sean, Big Sean did one of our party, not parties, but this guy named Malcolm, DJ Malcolm X. He used to throw, like, - I don't know. - Huh? - I'd have some notes on the neck. (laughing) - Now Malcolm's a shit, his last name is Xavier. I shouldn't put a shit out there, but that's why it was like DJ Malcolm X. But Malcolm was just the dopest kid. Ever and he used to get big rappers that come slide in our school or up and come in rappers. And before a final famous three drop, Big Sean came to our school. Sean was so cool, man. - They went on a college tour together. - Yes. - While they dropped in. - Back in the day. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they was both out there. But all this to say, I feel like while I love that era of guys, I feel like he feels like, man, what's the best way to describe this? He feels like, if he was an NBA player, Wale would feel like, "Hey, damn, you know who he'd feel like to me?" - Who? - John Wall. - To me, and I'm sorry, this is gonna alienate. - I see what you're saying. - I feel like he is a guy who really did reach high heights. But then you do also have this feeling where you're like, "Oh man, I thought she was gonna go." - You were to take us to the promised line. - Even crazier than you did. And it felt like for whatever reason, he like was just, he had everything and it was like right there. And there still are like, you know? Like no hands is still a record you could put on. - No hands, fucking. - And you could put that on anywhere. - Fucking Lotus Flower Bomb. - Lotus Flower Bomb. - Like, yo, I was pretty girls. That's probably regional. I don't think-- - Oh, really? Maybe it was regional. - Did you put that on in New York? You put that on in LA? I don't think we could put that on in Texas. - Maybe. - I don't think people really going up to that. You put it on a DMV, I bet you did. - It was, it was going. - I bet you did. You know what? I was in the area at the time, so possibly. - Yeah. - But to me, I always saw Wale as the great Washingtonian hope. You know, I don't, you know, and he really put on for other artists, Fattro, you know, Fila Day, Goldlink. He really was like, yo, and he was fucking with the clips. You know, like, he was tapping in with all of us. And, you know, he would be at events. Just chilling, and he would talk to us. And he was like, as, as, as, now that I look at somebody who's a performer myself, and you know, like, pre-show, you know, you kind of just want chill. My fox was in his face, and he was trying. You could, like, I really look back and I'm like, you really were trying, dog. - And it's a lot, and it's a lot. - Also, like, as a, as a comic, it's like, people not really trying to talk to us that much before show. Like, maybe some of the openers might be trying to chat about something, or like, maybe like one of the, like, a server might, but like, for the most part, people will really, like, let you do your thing. If you're a rapper, rappers be having so many people around. - Yeah. - That it's like, I would imagine for most rappers, it's like, never peaceful. - Yeah. - It's never, like, it's never, like, true downtime. - No, no, no. - Unless you, like, go home. - He, it's why they too, 'cause the area, the DC has a lot of Africans and Nigerians, and he really was, like, build, build that gap of just, like, 'cause, you know, there is, like, you know, young, when I was younger, there was a schism between black people and African people in the area. - I think you could argue that still exists? - Oh, yeah. But not as bad. - Sure. - Not as bad, but while they, in the area, really was, like, bridging that gap. - Bridging that gap, bro, where we would all just be, like, homies. - Mm-hmm. - And, 'cause he, he wasn't the go-go. He was, like, friends with the dope dealers and shit. - And I was saved for those of y'all who are not black fans who listen to this show. Just really quickly, I will just say, as a person who, me and Opia, about the same age, Africans used to get it bad. - Yeah, we did. Africans, we used to black Americans used to be really mean to Africans when we was growing up, and that's just the way that it went. - But part of it was, 'cause, like, especially Nigerians were so cocky. We're the most arrogant group of people. And so, when you, especially around black people, you start, you start walking a certain type way, but, man, let me get, let me roast this, do it real quick. - Wow. - And DC, we call people, like, me, Bammes. - Mm-hmm. - So, like, if you didn't know how to dress, 'cause I pulled up wearing the shikis and my hairline was all fucked up. They would be like, I remember this girl named Maya, like, called me a Bammam, and I was like, what is that? And she's like, it means you, it means you, dog, you a gump. You, and I'm like, what is a gump? (laughing) - I never heard that before. - A gump is like-- - I mean, her Bammes from you. - Gump, a gump is a, like, forest gump. - That makes sense. - Like, you basically-- - Like a country bumpkin. - Yeah, yeah, and then I had to figure it out, and that's when I got into, like, the whole, like, you know, seeing for real, kind of, like, I put it all together for me, but like, yeah, I feel like there was definitely a schism between black people and Africans. I think guys like Wale really made it cool to be African. And like, like, cool to be like, yeah, I'm like, you're in, what's up? And they're like, oh, yeah, we know about y'all. - Wale, if you're listening, we know that you are-- - Shout out to Mr. for Lauren, man. - Yeah, shout out to Wale for Lauren. Thanks for making it cool to be African. - Yeah. - Yeah. - I'm not Nigerian, but I've been mistaken for one many times. - You're in the tribe, man. - Probably. - Yeah, you probably-- - You definitely look like some cousins. (upbeat music) - Opie, you brought some lyrics to talk about today. - I did, bring some lyrics. - Let's get into some lyrics. I'm just, we've got the whole thing. I'm just gonna highlight it for you. You can take a look. - Okay. - And whatever, whatever part of it that you wanna talk about. - Okay. - Get into it. - Okay, so the song I brought today was the song "Started Up" by Lloyd Banks. And it features fabulous squiss beats Ryan Leslie. - I remember this. - And Kanye West. Have you ever been outside at a party in the song came on? - No. - Interesting. - This is a song, I remember this was, this came out like during the lead up to my beautiful dark twisted fantasy. - Yes. - When Kanye was like releasing all these like luces and some of them ended up making it on the album, some of them, this one didn't. This one didn't, this one was actually, so I did some research 'cause I was like, how did this song come about? And apparently Kanye had tweeted out that Lloyd Banks is one of the greatest MCs of all time. - So OP type take. - Which, I love Lloyd Banks. I thought what was this first album? - Hungo for more. - Hungo for more. I thought it was great. I thought Lloyd Banks was one of the greatest punchline rappers of all time. He has an incredible punchline. Like, you know, cool voice too. - Gray voice. - Gray voice. I remember that one line. He goes, I don't wear Jordans. Why would I have a bum on my sneaker? And he was like, damn. That's a hard bar. - That's what he meant. - Michael Jordans a bum to you that, who's good? - He's wearing G units. - Yeah. (laughing) Can I tell you quick, quick aside, my first day of, my first day of high school, my first day of ninth grade, I like got some G unit jeans. And they were like blue jeans, but they were like bleached like white on the front. I know exactly what kind of jeans you're talking about. - You don't have to talk about it. - And they were like, they were big ass G unit jeans and I wore it with like a white, like Ralph Polo and like white forces. And I really thought I was like, fucking killing him. - For sure. - Honestly, at the time, I was. - Yeah, you were. - Honestly, at the time, that's exactly what needed to be going on. - Now, if your Polo was echo entitled, you would have been really killing it. You would have been out there, brother. - Brother. - Agreed to disagree. (laughing) - You were like, how you weren't an echo guy? - I was, no, I was, but not an echo Polo. I do like an echo t-shirt with a rhino on it. - Oh, the rhino was iconic. - Anyway, back to it. - Back to it. - So. - The lyrics. - This Kanye verse, here's my hot take on this verse. I think this is the most audacious Kanye verse of all time. - And that's saying something. - Yes. Kanye has set some insane things, but to me, this verse, he, to me, this is, this verse is the representation of hypomania. - Okay. - Just the confidence and the things he's saying on this verse are insane. - Was that true? - And I remember where I was. I was in a love night club. And this is the, I don't, I think this is the only time I ever heard this song outside. And I, they played this record and it literally made me go, why am I here? This is-- - Been there. - I don't like this club. It made me really like aware of my surroundings and I was like, I think I want to go home. - So the verse starts off as we keep the G's and the alloy safe and stash the weed in the out toy case. Stop right there. - Hope it's weed and out toy case. - Somebody would not that much weed. - That's true. - But don't you think you can risk putting like opening and the weed just goes everywhere? - Yeah, especially if it's an older out toy case. - Exactly. - The hinges get real weak. - That's super risky. That's a person who goes, I had enough money to buy more weed. - Yeah, but it's also, it's not, it's not, it's not a flex on any level to be like my weeds in an out toy case. - It's not a flex. - It's a hard thing. - That's a, that sounds like you're struggling, Lloyd. - Well, this is Kanye. - Oh, this is Kanye. - This is Kanye. This is Kanye going, I don't care. - Kanye also don't smoke weed like that. - Well, to me, this is Kanye doing his best imitation of a punchline rap. - Yeah. - And there are times where he's succeeding and there are times where you're like, this guy is such a dork. This guy, and these are early signs of, to me, life of Pablo Kanye. This is the first appearance of life of Pablo Kanye to me. - Okay. - And he goes, they say good things come to those who wait so I'm going to be at least an hour late. - I remember this. - So Kanye is already setting up the tone of, I'm the shit. You were going to have to wait for me. This is my world. This is, I think, again, pre-pre- - It's right before my beautiful dark. - So he knows what he's about to drop. - He knows, he's like, I'm on the comeback. 'Cause this is post Taylor Swift. - Yep. like he knows I'm so fresh bitch I should be arrested new Cody chestnut with my nuts on your chest bitch you know Cody chestnut is no I know Cody I had to look this up Cody chestnut is like a a a soul singer and so this is he he had just dropped a new song in April this song came out they recorded this song in September so sometime between April September Kanye had his nuts on some woman some poor woman that tracks to me so Kanye is just talking about his life here yeah she said hey yay I said yes bitch and then the next line is damn I'm just asking you a question which is totally fair for this woman this poor woman this totally fair this poor woman's like she probably was like hey can you get your nuts off my chest yeah put him somewhere else yeah put those nuts away yeah come on put those away she said so I met this milk at the all-star getting action a cool girl with more rings than Phil Jackson I think that's a bar that's a good line that's a good line I like that's a cool like set up um told her told her her beauty is why God invented eyeballs to me that's smooth that's nice that's a real cool that's nice and then he goes and her booty is why God invented my balls now Kanye Kanye you didn't made a lot of mistakes in your life I'm gonna go ahead and add this to the list because it's also like if the booty is what your balls are for what kind of stuff are your balls doing with the butt this is insane it feels like it feels like you're trying to be horny but it feels like now I got to call everything into question could you imagine that's the that's the worst pickup line I've ever seen in my entire life yeah your beauties why God invented my eyeball and she's like yes okay okay all right what else we talk about your booties why God invented my oh I got a boyfriend actually dude I'm actually I'm actually I'm actually so a little bit I'm a nun yeah I actually just decided I'm I'm locking it down I'm locking it down now that I know that his niggas outside saying the true booty is from my balls I remember what I heard that line in the club I literally did that like Doc Rivers meme where I was just like what yeah I can't believe he just said your booty from my book oh my god at that point I was just like okay how are you gonna end this verse I'm a rock star huh started up huh started up huh started up huh so popular you should get a shot of us niggas don't take shots shots of us that is only obvious the first album I vomited the second iconic did ain't nobody fucking with me I platonic did to me those are bars sure those are bars yeah those are we're having fun now you almost made me forget yeah about the booty line yeah no you're right because he's blowing you no no he's he's on he's on it yeah bet I got some slippers on bet niggas going on it these ain't even real clothes homie I'm pajama rich bars now we back up bars now we back up I'm like now by this point by this point I've fully forgotten and also the if y'all haven't heard the song the beef goes crazy so crazy is that Swiss beats beat I think it's uh I want to say it's danger hands okay guys I want to say it's danger hands I could be wrong it sounds so crazy it's tut tut tut tut and by the way like this is like that era of the Super Goodnight Club yeah yeah so like like this is like the peak peak like Obama's first term you're like yo life's awesome I'll go out and spend a bunch of money on a high price over price liquor absolutely I'm having fun yeah and so when that beats going and he's going in this little pocket this little run right here I'm like yo Kanye is going crazy right now I'm just imagining too like this nigga got one was like pajamas yeah with a little nightcap and then it's like damn that's so hard my man dressed like Ebenezer screws yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah hopefully screw those three ghosts with visiting with the world with the fucking a little candle yeah a little candle yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I was like okay he's killing it right now yeah banks told me homie go ahead and switch the style up yeah these bitches on me homie homie only two arouses and that's when I was like wait what yeah I don't know about that that's rapper stuff though it's rapper stuff it's in fair game but then it just starts to go back to the to the balls day I was just like yeah and then it sounded really cool until you got here yes told her I am paying tonight I'm only browsing I like that yeah she pulled her blouse up and said it's free I said wowsers the wowsers part I was like oh no I'm you just went from stuff on or go breath yeah I guess you know I don't know the ages of everybody who listens to this if there's any like young kids who listen to this maybe have not gotten sexually active yet just one thing that I'll tell you for sure never incorporate wowsers into your vocabulary on any level wowsers should never escape your mouth just at any point and honestly even if you're already fucking and you're thinking about saying wowsers don't do it yeah save wowsers for yourself in the car yeah yeah you can say to yourself if you absolutely must if you must get the wowsers out it yeah save it until after everything that's when you're on the date so when you're alone wowsers that was why yeah that was some like Marty McFly type of language right there you know yeah he's talking like you're in one of the archie comics yes if you say in wowsers which is this is not the way it's not Betty yeah this is not the way you need to be speaking so just cut that out 100% yet to me this is this is a little glimpse of life of Pablo Coni I think he just wanted poke his head out to see if it was safe and niggas fucked with it yeah and we and then he's like oh okay this is why okay so y'all forgot yes y'all not think about the Taylor yes yes yes let me see this was Kanye to me every this is the beginning of Pablo yeah I see the beginning of Pablo I see the vision for that yeah yeah and I've still to this day cannot think of a more like what the fuck kind of lyrics from Kanye because it goes it goes in so many different directions insane you know it really it goes from him stash in the weed in the all-toid case which you're just like well that feels like that feels like a huge mistake that's broken into behavior like that's not that's not what you're doing you're up no your weed is not if you're when you're up your weeds in one of them big as baggage yeah one of them biggest like clear like like vacuum sealed bags that's when you're like really up and you got a bunch of them and but the the the juxtaposition of cash in the aloe case weed in the auto case you're like wait what what is this because one of them is a flex and one of them is like oh you probably got to drive your girl car to work 100 percent or is Kanye trying to build some kind of coalition social economic like closing the barrier between dudes who are lower middle class to dudes who are above a million dollars per year yes he's simultaneously saying I'm nothing like you yes exactly exactly at the bottom I've been at the top all right well now we've come now we've go what full circle now we're back around we can justify every lyric if we wanted to if we sat down and put our heads together I guarantee you that we could um opi we got to get out of here kind of soon but before we do we're going to get into a little voicemail okay from a from a listener so let's go ahead and play that hi Devon I'm calling you with the lyrics from Andre 3000 I'm listening to the Laura Peak episode right now where someone just called in with a lyrics from hello I don't even think that's Andre 3000 best lyric especially a more recent years I'm calling in with a lyric from come home by Anderson pack honestly his entire verse is crazy but my personal favor is I'm begging pretty pleased with Terry Harry wet plot Harriet Tubman I don't give up and if a duck tells you to strut and strut then I'll hail you a car but what man won't beg you know I'm not meag he goes on but Harry wet plot Harriet Tubman I don't give up really threw me off the first time I listen to it but it has come to grow on me so that's my favorite love to hear you thoughts on it love the podcast uh so the bar is I'll just give it to you because it cut out a little bit yeah I couldn't hear it from from the verse uh this is Anderson pack it's Anderson pack okay he goes a phenomenon come with me like it's Ramadan I don't eat like it's kamikon I'm a freak for you I'm begging now pretty preles with cherries on top Harry wet plot Harriet Tubman I don't give up if your gut tells you to strut then strut that's the part that really which there is a lot in that there is a lot in that also I couldn't tell the ethnicity of the woman that that left this yes I couldn't tell what was going on I'm gonna gash black see and I've run the suburbs maybe maybe which is probably there's one of our core demographics that's actually we're we're aiming for that group but uh I I couldn't tell because there was a moment where she was rapping where I was like oh you're filling yourself yeah yeah there's a moment where she was enjoying this and I was like okay and I couldn't tell if there's a white woman I was like oh man you feel you feel really good right now if you're hitting that really if you're a white woman and you you did that okay sure you tried you try to do that and I respect it um this you know a phenomenon come with me like it's Ramadan I don't eat you know I'm just gonna and then saying you don't eat pussy that's that's the only way I can interpret that he says like it's Ramadan I don't eat like like it's Comic-Con, I'm a freak for you. And I don't think you can, in the same breath, say, I don't eat pussy, but I'm also a freak. - Yeah. - Those things just don't go to you. - So you're a person who doesn't eat pussy, but you cosplay. - Okay. - Like that's like, I just don't believe your credentials if you're drawing the line of eating pussy. That just feels like. - That's an interesting take. - Yeah, I just can't, I can't really come. - So is it like a person who's into role playing, but it's like, "Hey, just put the character I'm playing." (laughing) - The character I'm playing is Jamaican. - Yeah. - So I won't be, I won't be doing none of that. - Do you remember that controversy when they hit the heart? - Did you say Calvin? - No, no, no, well, this is kind of follows into it, but like, this is maybe my nerd side showing, but the show Harley Quinn, that was on HBO Max, I think. There was a scene that they cut out 'cause Batman was eating pussy. - Do you think that's who Anderson packed his my pussy here? Where he goes, "I'm Batman, but I don't eat." - Sure. - I stay away from the push. - I will say, just based on everything, I understand about Bruce Wayne, no. Like, I think that feels, that doesn't feel like something he'd be up to. - You don't think Bruce Wayne would eat pussy? - No. - A guy who dresses up like a bat would not eat pussy. - I don't think so. - I think he's eating it upside down. - I don't think so. - I think that guy is only eating pussy. - He's cold, he's like, removed from everybody. He's hanging out in there by himself. I don't think he's worried about what the woman's trying to get into at all. - Oh, I think he's 100%. - I think he's, I think he's getting what he needs, and I think he's not. - Let me eat your pussy for Gotham. (laughing) - He's putting up the signal just to eat the pussy. - I'm with those riders. That's, I don't think that's what he would be doing. I don't think he's a generous lover. - It wasn't even the riders. It was like DC, like, high boards of DC was like, he doesn't eat pussy. - Yeah, and I think they're right. - And who would know better than the people that's high up? - They're clearly, they're clearly tapped into. - Batman doesn't kill, and he doesn't eat pussy. - You see what I'm saying? No, no guns, and no fucking- - No guns, no kind of English. - No killing, no, no licking the poo notting. - Nah, he don't do that. I'm with them on that. - I think he should, but- - You find out that members of DC are all Jamaican. (laughing) - I don't know, we haven't seen him. (laughing) - We haven't seen him, we don't know what they were but- - They could all be rascals. - Batman, not Batman, come on. (laughing) - That's right there. - Um. - Yeah, he also, he says I'm begging out, which Harry's on top, Harry wet twat. Which, to me, and then Harry wet twat into Harry tub man. - I don't give up. - That's crazy. - That's, that's fucked up. - Anderson Park, if you're listening and we know the chore. - Don't say shit like that. Well, maybe it's like, 'cause you know, when you're eating pushy, you gotta go north, kinda like Harry tubbing. - Podcast is over. (laughing) - I'm just trying to make the bar make sense. - Sure, you're trying to, you're trying to- I just didn't like how satisfied you were with yourself, and I said it. That really- - He wrote it, and then put it out. - That didn't make me feel good. - And I took it, I received it. And I was like, "Hey man, I see what you're doing there." (laughing) - Yeah, that's a crazy bar. - Never wet twat is just, that's never, that's for nobody. - That's what? - That's just not a word. - I've never heard a niggas say twat. - Yeah, well he's, you know, he's like Korean. - Yeah, as you were saying, he's half Korean. - I've never heard a Korean say twat. (laughing) - I don't hear anybody say it, and now that I'm hearing him say it, I don't like it at all. - Twat's wild. - It's really not, and it's like, he's also begging for this girl using twat. That's not gonna help. - No. - Twat. - Wowsers. - He's a, I'm not an expert on sex, and none of that, but I'm just, I do know enough, I've been around enough to know not to use those words. - I will say this, just to be fair to Anderson, he does have a really good vocal instrument. - You know, so twat might sound better coming from his mouth than ours. - I would say it sounds better, but I wouldn't say it sounds great. - No. - And I haven't actually heard this song, but I guarantee you- - I don't know the song either. - I guarantee you if we listen to it, we'd be like, that's why, maybe not that. - Yikes. - The Ramadan line is the most concerning one. - Sure. - That's Ramadan I don't eat when it's like, and this is, that's the second one. - That's the second one. - That's right, that's right up top, you try to get this girl, and I don't think there's any world in which there's any girl you come up to, and you're like, "Hey, I want you bad, but just so you know, I'm not gonna be down there." - I think you're pussy's her own. - Yeah. (laughing) - Just let you know. - I think it's against God and against God. - And I can't participate in it. - And I do it, can I do it. - Thank you for that voicemail, that was a good one, that gave us lots of work to work with. OP, we gotta get ready to get out of here before we do it. Is there anything you wanna plug for the people? - Just follow me on Instagram, man. I got some stuff coming through. So yeah, follow me on Instagram and Justin, DM me, man. Let's hang out. - I can do it. - Andrew, brother and Andrew. - I can connect you with Justin and we got the resources. - Oh yeah, man. - I appreciate you pulling up, bro. - Thanks for having me, man. - All right. David Lyrics is a production by DiscoNap. If you guys like what you hear, leave a review and tell all of me about the show. And make sure to follow us at my favorite lyrics pod on all social platforms, except for Twitter, we offer that. 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