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I'm in a Best Ball Mania draft, and I'm threatening to take Mike Washington at 106. My name's Pete Overzet. This is Best Ball Breakfast. We have four straight hours of drafts. Buckle up. Welcome to Hot Best Ball Summer. You slurp that suspension dipperino, honey. Easy to click on Rashad White's when it's all site credits. Exodia. Put the puppy in the bag, bro. I'm trying to grow the goddamn game. The game is beatable, folks. Slap King Summer, bitches. 7,000 hours of commercial-free Best Ball drafts starts now. GM, GM, GM, how are we doing? Best Ball Breakfast decided to jump in one right here off the rip. Got to capitalize on all of the changing ADPs. I'll never forget where I was when I went to bed last night under the assumption that Ashton Jenner was going to win. Ashton Jenner was not only probably done for the year, but his career might have been over. And then I wake up to the wonderful, glorious news that it was just a high ankle sprain. Just a little boo-boo. Just a little boo-boo for Ashton Jenner. I was watching my guy Rambis cry on camera about a guy he's been taking over, Jameer Gibbs, potentially being out for the year. What a rollercoaster of emotions. But let's lock in. We'll see where guys are going on this fine morning. I got the 106 in my 124th Best Ball Mania draft. Are we worried about CMC these days? Are we worried about CMC? Who have I been trying to get more of? Who have I been trying to get? I've been trying to get a little more Amin Ra, a little more JT. Let's do JT here at six. I did a few high-stakes drafts over the weekend in Vegas. I got CMC at 111 in one of those, full-point PPR. People are definitely worried about CMC these days. GMs, GMs, GMs all around. Yeah, people also talking about the Sean Watson news. He was being very emotional over the weekend. He was sad that the Cleveland Browns were booing him. And it apparently worked. The psychological warfare of playing the victim mentality worked because the Browns have named Deshaun Watson, their QB1. He will start the season as the quarterback for the Cleveland Browns. So there you go. For all of your eliminator slow drafts that you're still in, you can start taking Deshaun Watson in round 18. How are we doing today, everybody? How are we doing? I saw a lot of panic. There was a lot of fear that you can't draft Best Ball Mania teams anymore because someone got Ashton Genting in the first round. In the fifth round. It's sad. I can't believe I even fired up this stream to do the drafts. The contest is over. Can't play the Powerball because someone knows one of the numbers. Sorry. It's over. It's Jover. Isn't it just completely offset? Anyone who was taking Mike Washington in the fifth round, those teams are just as dead as the Genting super teams are super. What do we got going in this room here? AJ Brown going at the 12-13 here. Got to pull it up. Got to get your unique combos. Bowers goes at 17. Chase Brown comes off the board. Genting's here. Yeah, Genting's going to fall a little bit. I've been trying to get a little bit more Hampton. I'm really light Hampton. I'm not even up to an exposure blanket. I'm at 2.8% here. Let me see what I am. I am in just Best Ball Mania on Hampton. 2.5%. So we'll start Jonathan Taylor in Hampton here. I was listening to Sean Siegel and Ben Gretsch do their annual exercise of predicting round one and two next year for 2027 drafts. And they're both very high on Hampton. I'm very impressionable when Sean and Gretsch speak. So it's hard not to. Maybe think, all right, maybe I'm not thinking through this Hampton thing as well as I should. So we'll take him here at 19 with Jonathan Taylor. It is a slightly different exercise too, right? Because you can see the idea of like, it would not shock me to have Hampton have a year where he maybe doesn't fully pay off this cost. Both him and Keaton Mitchell perform well. And the offense is just so. So good that the enthusiasm for a guy like Hampton heading into year three with this offense does push him into the first round. So it's not a quite one for one as far as what we're trying to do in these contests. Like I can, I can very much see scenarios where Hampton is a low advance rate player just because of all the heavy hitters that go around him in round two. And yet he could still finish the season very strong. He could still be a consensus round one pick. Next year, Jonathan Taylor, Omarian Hampton to start this draft is ripping. I've been doing a ton of Trey McBride in the third, and I think I'm going to keep that up. I have 12.6% McBride here. I just don't think he should be going this late, even mid third here. I do like Devante Smith as the other potential option here, but we're going to start with Trey McBride. I kind of think this is the GTO start right now in these Jonathan Taylor, Omarian Hampton. And then you get Trey McBride in the middle of the third, who should probably be a middle of round two pick. Yeah. People talking about the, uh, the offensive line injury there for the chargers. I mean, you can't, you're not going to drop someone a full round because of that. I mean, the commanders lost Tunsell. We're not dropping. I mean, McLaurin and Jaden Daniels and bill a full round because of it. How was Vegas? Vegas was great, man. It was a fun time. Yeah. It was this draft nation event. They're trying to make, make it an annual fantasy football holiday, or I shouldn't say trying. They did. The mayor of Las Vegas was there cutting a ribbon, but I had lots of fun. Got to hang out with some guys from Roto world, like Roto, Pat and Kyle, the board check. Of course, the fantasy life crew, Dwayne and Kendall are producers. Our producer swing and Friedman got to hang out with a lot of fun. People interviewed Austin Eckler, chatted it up with Tom Everett. Scott did a little pool party, some dunk tank, some drafts. It was a good time. I think I do need a coffee pour though. I am still on Vegas time right now. I had my alarm go off when. It normally does this morning and it was certainly on Vegas time and I am struggling. So let's get some coffee. We do have our vassal arrows and son's coffee and good news today, guys. We do have two more coffee giveaways here. You can always get 25% off your first order of vassal arrows and son's coffee. That link is down below. And I certainly need it this morning. I'm going to go ahead and get my coffee. be Dwayne Chaperone. Dwayne ran up a really nice blackjack stack, and I was like, bro, take some chips off the table. Take some chips off the table. I only lost a little bit playing crap, so that was a win. All right, this is for the people. No, I'm not taking Christian Watson. Just kidding. What do we want to do here? Devontae Adams, DJ Moore, Christian Watson. We'll keep doing the Christian Watson thing. Devontae Adams, I have 14.9%. Christian Watson, I'm at 9.4%. There was that report going around where McVay, I guess, was interested in A.J. Brown this offseason when he became available, and then they said they got spooked, I think, by the medicals on A.J. Brown, and then to cope his way through it, Sean McVay went back and re-watched the Devontae Adams tape and said, I have to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I actually have some new, interesting ways to use Devontae Adams. I love that. Devontae Adams has been in the league since 2014. There's about as much tape as you could ever have on Devontae Adams, but Sean McVay's like, I uncovered a new way to use him, so I don't need A.J. Brown. I don't know about that, but I have enough Devontae Adams. I think I'm good. I think I'm good. What's my crap strategy? To bet the pass line, occasionally press, tail people on their one-off numbers, and get free drinks. That's my crap strategy. I'm not a crap shark, but I do love the communal aspect of it. Is this a heart of hearts draft? Not quite. I do think we're going to do that on ship chasing maybe next week. Davis wanted to do the heart of hearts draft, so we'll do something like that, but I will. I'll let my heart guide me. I'll let my heart guide me here. Is Dwayne as good at cards as he is at game theory analytics? No, not from my experience. I was having to tell him basic blackjack strategy. No, I told him he should stick to utilization. Can we get a rundown of Kurt Rambis' last 24 hours? I mean, I retweeted his post. The man was quite literally crying on the timeline. I will say, shout out Rambis, though, for establishing Jenty as that large. Part of his personal brand, right? The fact that I immediately thought of Rambis when I saw the Jenty news, that's pretty impressive for him. Does anybody want to take Lamar Jackson? All right, there he finally goes. There he finally goes. Lamar Jackson goes pick 65 here after Carnell Tate, after Brian Thomas, after Roma Dunzay, after Rico Dowdle. I am back on the clock here. We could do quarterback stuff. I think with Ted Arroyo, we could do some backdoor, I do keep pulling up Ramondre here, and I think I'll just keep that as my move. I get shit for not standing for anything. I'm up almost to what? 18.2% Ramondre. We'll get him here at pick 67, a few spots ahead of ADP. So we go Jonathan Taylor, Omarian Hampton, Trey McBride, Ted Arroyo, McMillan, Christian Watson, Ramondre. I could have done Marvin Harrison, but you want my heart of hearts? I feel nothing when I see Marvin Harrison's name. Just absolutely nothing. Ramondre, though, I still think there's a little meat on the bone. What's the 12-hole doing here? Jalen Warren, Rico Dowdle, double tap. Interesting. Don't know if I like that. Now we're getting crap strategy. Min pass line, max odds, bet six and eight, and half press each time. Bet field. There you go. There you go. Did I eat anywhere you recommend in Vegas? We went, I mean, we basically were at the Circa for most of the time. So I ate at the Asian place in there. I think it's called Eight East. I had a really good brisket fried rice. That was super good. Some bao buns. And then we went to the Steakhouse in Circa on Thursday night. That was really good as well. Keyshawn Johnson was hanging out at the bar at the Circa Steakhouse we were at. I forget the name of it. It's whatever's on the bottom floor of Circa. There you go. Those are the two I went to. Barry's in Eight East. Thank you, McNova. All right. Jonathan Taylor, Omari in Hampton, Trey McBride, Ted Arroyo-McMillan, Christian Watson, Ramondre Stevenson. Back on the clock here. You know what I haven't done? I have not done a lot of Herbert without a lad. Why don't I just pull up Herbert or do I want to get a receiver here? We could go double. I'm going to stick with Herbert here for a second. I'm going to do a Herbert Hampton team. I believe I don't have, do I have any of those? Let's find out here via the solver. Okay. I have a couple Herbert Hampton teams, but almost all of them, I guarantee have Ladd McConkie on them. So we grab Herbert as our first quarterback. Herbert, Jonathan Taylor, Omari in Hampton, Ramondre, Ted Arroyo, Christian Watson, Trey McBride. No, Keyshawn Johnson was. Keyshawn Johnson was just having a very normal meal from what I could tell. What was I drinking in Vegas? Top shit shelf or railing it? I drank a lot of margaritas and other than that, some Modellos. I played the hits. The event was sponsored by Mike's Hard Lemonade, but don't tell them I did not partake. Kyle Pitts going at pick 84. This drafter out of the 12, they're living a little. They're living a little for sure. We are going to have the full lineup today. We'll have Levitan come on at 11, Sam Sherman back in the saddle at noon, Corain at one Eastern. Pete likes little flowers in his drinks. I wouldn't say I like them, but I don't question my masculinity when there's a flower in my drink. I'll tell you that much, brother. Oh, I do have to see this Q video. Leone tipped me off that this was coming. Is it QAnon? Is that the one that got posted? What's my reaction to Jinxy's reaction to my reaction to Jinxy's reaction to Sammy's reaction? Oh my goodness. I could not sleep last night because of the Flock League drama. I could not sleep. I think I'm fine being back in on Lemon in this range. Things seem to be trending well for him. Pick 91. I mean, this is a far cry from where we were having to draft him a couple of weeks ago at the 6-7 turn. I'll grab Lemon as my wide receiver three here at pick 91. Trevor, do you have any idea when the underdog masterclass updates will go live? Very good question. We are in the process of drafting those. It is on me to now do some proofreading, some editing, but I would say the majority of the work has been done, but soon, Trevor. I have a lot of shit to get done in the next 10 or so days. We got to work on Best Ball Bros video. We got to get the underdog masterclass updates. I'm going to have an announcement about a fun guillotine league that I'm hosting with Tony Squares. We got to get that going. We're going to have a draft for that. We got a bunch of high-stakes drafts over on Ship Chasing. Tomorrow night, the ADP Chasing crew is drafting their FFPC main event. On Thursday, we're drafting with Crack Rock. There's a lot going on right now, but I appreciate it, Trevor. We will get you those updates. I promise. I promise. How many of my drafts have a stack of three or more? Uh, just guessing, I would say three or more. Like, you mean all three quarterbacks stacked up? I mean, I don't know. Let's say 60% of my teams are three quarterbacks, and the majority of those would be stacked up. I'll say 40% of my drafts. That's my back of the napkin math there. All right. We have Justin Herbert, three running backs, three wide receivers, and Trey McBride. Jordan Tyson does go here at 101. I'm, I'm going to go ahead and grab Xavier Worthy as my fourth wide receiver here. Kind of ignored wide receiver for the most part in this draft, so trying to catch up a bit. Jonathan Taylor, Hampton McBride. Then we do grab Ted Arroy, McMillan, and Christian Watson. Come back, come back, come back and grab Ramondre in the sixth. Herbert in the seventh. Lemon in the eighth. Worthy in the ninth. I like this. Michael says, we appreciate all your work, but bro, this team is as boring as going for a colonoscopy. I'm sorry. What do you want me to do? You want me to take Mike Washington right now to spice it up? Go draft fucking wild teams on your own account, brother. What do I need to do to spice up this team? I'm so sorry. Ted Arroyo, McMillan, Christian Watson. Is it Mackay Lemon and Xavier Worthy? I mean, most people don't like those picks. You tell me what I can do to make this draft more interesting for you, brother. I'm here to help. OG Man says, is there a strategy video with you or the Badge Bros for the first quarter contest? You know what? There isn't, but now that you say it, we should do that tomorrow on Off and On the Clock. What do you think, John and Nez? Should we do first quarter contest? I like that. Let's do that. Most entertaining thing I saw in Las Vegas. It was very fun to watch Tom Everett Scott and people do the dunk tank. I got in the dunk tank there for a while. I think that was my first time ever being in a dunk tank. But yeah, they rented out the Circa Swim area, open bar, had the dunk tank going. It was a fun time. Patrick Mahomes doesn't come back to me. Dejon Stripling goes at 113. I would have liked KC Concepcion there. I'm not feeling much of anything here, so I'm just going to go ahead and grab Jordan Love, a drafter behind me, has no quarterbacks here. Let's just get my stacks with Love and Watson. We'll get Herbert and Hampton here. Stripling 113, Concepcion 114. 114. Big debate on ADP chasing of how high up can you take Stripling. And KC Concepcion was kind of the spiritual line that you can't cross with the Stribler. And yet, maybe not anymore. After another preseason game of him shattering preseason targets per route run records. He was going really high in the drafts, the managed leagues drafts over the weekend, sixth, seventh round. I don't know if he's going to be able to do that. Was that the first time at Stadium Swim? No, I had been, it was a few years ago. I always remember it because it was that the first game that Barkley was on the Eagles and they played the Packers in Brazil. And we went over there. We went over there after some ship chasing drafts. And that was the moment we realized that Barkley was going to shove it down our throats for an entire season. But yes, that was my first time at Stadium Swim. Then this was my second time. It is an awesome setup over there. I'm pretty jaded at this point with Vegas, but Stadium Swim is a good time. Man, even just having not drafted on underdog for a week, the landscape feels different. Um, do we want to get another running back here? Rashad White is a little bit of a slurp. The dipper Reno. We can do Rashad White. It's probably Rashad White or grabbing one of these receivers, but the receiving tier looks kind of flat here. So we'll grab Rashad White as our fourth running back. And I'm not going to beat the accusations of drafting a boring team after selecting Rashad White. Justin Herbert, Jordan Love, Jonathan Taylor, Amarion Hampton, Ramondre Stevenson, Rashad White, Ted Arroyo McMillan, Christian Watson, Makai Lemon, Xavier Worthy, Trey McBride at tight end. Let's get a coffee giveaway going though. I got two more. Uh, I have two more promo codes to give out for a 12 ounce bag of Vassilaros and Sons coffee. Let's do hashtag boring. Hashtag boring in the chat. We'll spin the wheel. We'll hear in a little bit and give away some coffee. Uh, I generally agree with this from C Crowder. As wild as ADPs are changing, feels fine reaching for players and getting your guys right now. Yeah. Especially with the late round guys, right? I think you can argue about it with the premium picks top 100 picks. But if you're talking about pulling up a guy with a one 90 ADP up to one 50, it doesn't really matter. Doesn't really matter. Two, four, four, one here for me. We're going to have to start grabbing some wide receivers here. Potentially some good running back picks now kind of emerging in this range. It looks like the Mike Washington ADP is going to be a good one. He has already snapped up accordingly up to one 50 here. I actually think he's pretty in play even around this range at one 40. Wide receiver is kind of getting wiped here a little bit. Who do I like here? I also really like Jonah Coleman. I like Marshawn Lloyd on this team as well. I'm going to pull up Marshawn Lloyd just cause I have this Jordan love stack and I prefer him. I prefer him here. We're just going to have to do damage at wide receiver down the stretch because this tier got a little cleaned out. I was looking at Coker, Shakir, Samuel Shahid and Boston and all of them went before this next pick. So we'll just grab another running back here. I am kind of surprised Mike Washington isn't off the board now. Here's the, here's the thing about the Mike Washington stuff. Even just separate, anything that happened yesterday with Gentee, let's just assume no ankle injury, nothing. I think with the clarity we were getting on Mike Washington as the RB two in that offense and just how well he's looked in the preseason, really explosive kind of the thesis of the Mike Washington play as an Isaac Garendo type kind of hitting, you can make the case that that guy should be going in the one 50 range anyways, right? As part of that clear handcuffed tier as a one for one replacement, and now you're going to free roll. You're going to free roll Gentee potentially missing time at the start of the season. I know we're all relieved that Gentee isn't out for the season with a torn ACL, but if it's a high ankle sprain, I mean, this could be a month. It could be a six week thing, right? They could really slow play it, especially if they're feeling good about Mike Washington. So I think at this price, when he's still not off the board, I will take Mike Washington at one 50 here. If he's here, even though I need wide receiver, it's just a fucking prove a point. There he goes at one 45. That's a good price. That's a good price for Mike Washington. I do think you can make the case that people are underreacting to Gentee right now at pick 20. He's probably more of a mid third round pick along the Jeremiah love Brees hall range. And I think we're probably underreacting to Mike Washington at one 45. I mean that that's fine. But if someone pulled him up in here to the 12th round, I wouldn't think that was crazy. This is definitely a spot to get Trey Harris. I have Justin Herbert. I've been wanting to get more Trey Harris only at five and a half percent need more wide receivers. Let's get Trey Harris here stacked up with Herbert. So a couple of correlated picks here in the 12th and 13th round Lloyd with, with love Trey Harris with Herbert. Keep the hashtag borings coming here for the coffee. I'll spin in a second. Blizzy, where do you think Kittle goes? Kittle gets by close. You know what? I I've been anticipating steam for Kittle for a long time now. I mean, we've gotten the same steady drum B of positive news, but people are just too scared. He's 33, bro. He's 33. How's he ever going to be able to score points again? I don't think the Kittle steam's coming. I think people are just naturally scared of George Kittle. And it also is coupled with the fact that there's good tight end values everywhere. So you don't have to take George Kittle. He goes one 10 here. I don't, I would be surprised if his ADP settles in the double digits. I think he'll still, even if he inches up a bit, he's probably not going to flip. He's certainly not going to flip Laporta. I guess he could flip fan. And I don't really think Kittle steam is coming. I mean, they've been telling us he's live to play week one or week two, this entire off season. So I don't know what's going to change the Kittle stuff at this point. They can, they can say he's going to play week one and people have been, they can still be like, okay, well he's 33 coming off a major injury. What if, what if his, what if he, what if he gets a cramp on the 18 hour flight to Australia? People love making excuses for why they can't draft George Kittle. They love it. Let's see here. I probably don't need to do a Bryce young here. Even he continues to fall. I have Ted Arroyo. Is there anything else I need to do here? I probably need to grab another wide receiver. I've been trying to get more, I could get some more Cyrus Allen I could do Cyrus Allen and Xavier Worthy let's do some Cyrus Allen here that's an example of like I was not clicking a lot of Cyrus Allen you know when the initial buzz was hitting I was pretty skeptical you know this is what the Chiefs do they showcase these rookie wide receivers and then they put them on the shelf but I think in addition to how well he's looked I do think the outs are there especially if you're going to be a Rashi Rice fader like I am you got to capitalize on it somehow and I want to capitalize on it with a little bit more Cyrus Allen so catching up at wide receiver a bit I'll need to grab some tight ends here but I do have Trey McBride late this team has Charlie fucking Kolar written all over it all over it Justin Herbert Jordan Love at quarterback Jonathan Taylor Omari and Hampton Ramondre Stevenson Rashad White Marshawn Lloyd at running back Ted Roy McMillan Christian Watson Mekhi Lemon Xavier Worthy Trey Harris Cyrus Allen at wide receiver and Trey McBride at tight end we have four more picks I'll take Bryce Young here if he comes back we could add on a little Darren Waller on this squad potentially oh there goes Bryce Young I can't I can't be upset to lose Bryce Young this is probably grabbing another tight end here AJ Barner seems fine I do like Sadiq as well should we do Sadiq let me do my heart of hearts my heart of hearts is that uh Kenyon Sadiq should not be going this late I'm gonna pair Trey McBride with Kenyon Sadiq there's a heart of heart to pick for you all right let's spin again here 71 entries Vassaleros and Sons Coffee if you win shoot me a message and I will get you a promo code and then you just go to Vassaleros and Sons Coffee Jack Ryan Jack.Ryan3693 congratulations you sir have just won a free bag of Vassaleros and Sons Coffee it's delicious feel free to pick out whatever variety you like I've been rocking the classic roast but I'm excited to try out some of the other ones there so Kyle says Kittle has mooned six spots of ADP in both BBM and a limb even though Schefter has a tweet scheduled every day about Kittle ready week one I know they uh they're not buying it it's moved to the point of white noise I swear to god if we had zero updates about Kittle and then there was one positive update his ADP probably would move more than the steady trickle of things are good bro things are good things are good three more picks I think someone was asking is this a two quarterback team yeah at this point I was gonna I was gonna slurp uh a Bryce Young dipperino there I actually like this price on Mendoza but I don't I don't need to take uh unstacked Mendoza I'm completely fine with a Herbert Jordan love squad Jaden Blue that's another name people are a little bit worried about the Malik Davis stuff him not quite being the clean contingent bet you wanted but I don't really think anything's changed I mean we've talked through it all summer the the Jaden Blue selling point is a bit of a standalone role as the pass catcher mixing some explosive plays um I actually could do a Gino if I end up wanting to do a third quarterback but this is probably another spot I've been playing this no I actually want to talk about this so early on in the offseason I had way too much fucking tank Dell like that was an issue off the rip this tank Dell stuff sounds very ominous like I don't know if you guys have been following this but they he still is not practicing in any full capacity when you listen to the beats you know who is it Aaron Wilson and some of these guys uh they like this quote even just from last week is with tank he's on his own plan didn't play in the preseason limited to these individual drills I'm starting to get worried that this tank Dell optimism was all a fugazi and now we have Jaden Higgins out for the season I'm not doing the Xavier Hutchinson stuff he will be a problem Xavier Hutchinson is an eliminator ass pick he's a week one DFS 3k ass pick I get there's a there's a time and a place for Xavier Hutchinson that time and place isn't on my best ball mania teams but Jalen Knoll the the path is starting to get cleared for Jalen Knoll to play significant playing time this season so yeah I'm going to start clicking some Jalen Knoll I need more I need more than five and a half percent Gino Smith goes what other wide receiver should I start spamming back here my take is get more Niko Niko's already gonna get all the work he can get brother who do I want here oh do I just play the hits and take Jeremy Bernard no let's just do the Charlie Kohler thing why we why we have I mean we got to do the Charlie Kohler thing on a Herbert I mean come on of course we have to this is where I get the comment every single time you took three tight ends with Trey McBride yes I did because one of them is the greatest tight end to ever grace this planet Charlie Kohler Justin Herbert Jordan Love Jonathan Taylor Omarian Hampton Ramondre Stevenson Rashad White Marshawn Lloyd Ted Arroyo McMillan Christian Watson Makai Lemon Xavier Worthy Trey Harris Cyrus Allen Jalen Knoll Trey McBride Kenyon Sadiq Charlie Kohler let's find another wide receiver to draft what's the fanciest zero we could take who's another guy Sean was getting Sean Sean snuck in just this insane comment about Malik Benson one of you was drafting Malik Benson on best ball breakfast a couple weeks ago and I learned that name round 18 really does suck right now Jeremy Bernard I might just take Jeremy Bernard for the millionth time if you make me I'm gonna put him in the queue and I'm gonna I'm gonna dare you to take him yeah there's no more there's no one fun anymore I'm gonna put Malik Benson in the queue I know Nick I'm telling you the Malik Benson Malik Benson could be our generation Cyrus Allen the buzz feels fake until it's not short king summer Greg Dorch I think I'm good I think I'm good on that even staring at 1.1 percent Isaac Tesla feels like too much who kept his ADP up there all summer who kept it up there who did that Tyquan Thornton's still a good pick but I'm probably not going to do it on a Xavier Worthy Cyrus Allen team without Patrick Mahomes Bateman's what is Bateman going to jail what's the latest here facing charges after June incident Philip would it be silly to draft Washington on gentee teams and slow drafts or is that too cute I mean if you were getting old Mike Washington prices like if you're on the clock in the 18th round and Mike Washington's there let's mix it up I take Jeremy Bernard on every team let's let's take a fancy zero let's take Malik Benson here to wrap this up but uh Philip yeah I mean I would certainly not be reaching at pick 130 or 140 for Mike Washington but if you're getting an insane deal on what his true value is then I'm less concerned about having two running backs on the same team like if you agree with my thesis that Mike Washington should be valued around 140 135 right now and you're in a slow draft even where you have gentee and you're getting that 170 180 that's enough of a value windfall to offset the handcuffing stigma that permeates our best ball society all right this team is in the books shout out Pat Moore Poker Tim Godd 99 on becoming YouTube members you guys will get access to the bash on Thursday as well as after the game so I'll see you guys on Thursday after dark episodes I didn't have an after dark this last week because I was traveling but I have a couple good guests that I'm lining up I'll announce those soon if you are a best ball value hound YouTube member you get access to all of those after darks and then starting week one for the highest tier the hand builder and opto bro the the DFS crams will be back on Sunday mornings and those are specifically for that highest level tier on the channel all right let's recap this team 124th best ball mania team why do I keep clicking eliminator come on Peter where am I here we go. Here we go. Best ball mania 124. How did we do? 2-5-8-3. Justin Herbert, Jordan Love at quarterback. Jonathan Taylor, Omarion Hampton, Ramondre Stevenson, Rashad White, Marshawn Lloyd, Tedaroy McMillan, Christian Watson, Makai Lemon, Xavier Worthy, Trey Harris, Cyrus Allen, Jalen Knoll, Malik Benson, Trey McBride, Kenyon Sadiq, Charlie Kohler. I think the team's fine, but my one macro takeaway is there were a ton of what I thought running back values in a range of the draft that there were not running back values all summer. So I took Lloyd there as my running back five. I think Jonah Coleman is an awesome pick in this range. We continue to get more kind of confirmation that he's going to have a role that Sean Payton really wants to involve him earlier this offseason, and we just know how much that. That running back room is going to generate fantasy points. Malik Washington at 145. Even Bigsby, like this range of the draft board used to be the worst part of the draft board to get running backs, like rounds 12 through 15. And now I think there's some really nice picks in here. The fact that you could go Lloyd, Washington, or Coleman, and then Bigsby definitely makes me want to mix in some more wide receiver heavy starts here, just knowing that that value is now kind of swinging back into this range. Late is still rough, right? I mean, the running backs who went round 17, 18, Ray Davis, who's fine, but then Pacheco, Najee Harris. Yeah, I'm trying to think back to things I would do differently in this draft. Probably just flip one of those early running back picks to a wide receiver. I mean, maybe it's just flipping Jonathan Taylor to Amin Ra. And if you do Amin Ra here at six, then you can grab another running back in this range here. Malik Benson, though, my first share of Malik Benson. So excited. So excited. You guys are tossing out sleepers still. Savion Williams. Okay. You're right. I can never, I'm like, let me try to do a fancy zero Malik Benson. And then the chat's like, hold my beer. Savion Williams. Shorty, do we have a Sunday AM cram? The same plan as it's been for the past five years or whatever. 10 30 AM. We go live. All the way up through inactives. Messing with the Sims, hand-building lineups, drafting teams, putting together pick-ems, reacting to news, all that good stuff. Mr. Mister is on his last BBM. His last BBM. Congratulations. Jack, what do I got to do to claim the coffee? You got to message me so I can get you the promo code. Twitter would be preferred. Otherwise you can email me at contact at Peter over set.com. Speaking of which I need a little more coffee here as well. We'll have Adam Levitan joining us in 15 minutes. All right. You guys, you guys keep mentioning the video. I do have to watch this. All right. Let's let's find this video. I was tipped off that this video is coming. Let's see. Where is it? Okay. All right. Let's watch this video before Levitan comes on. The Levitan's post says was supposed to be a relaxing summer. Instead, I agreed to draft with streamers. Look at that. He's thrown the quotes on it. He, he always tosses that word around. Like it's a pejorative who have no idea how to operate a queue to tilting. Let me pour some coffee to enjoy this. Yeah, I got to rename this video. Peter over re over set reacts to Levitan's video about the queue. Hello and welcome to, to establish the run Thursday, live stream, $555 buy-in. It's her Zig. How's it going today? Doing well. Doing well. My guest on here, Adam Levitan. All right. Levitan, Ivy. All right. I, you know, I wasn't sure if I was actually in this video now that I know I am, I can, I can retweet it. All right. Back to the program. We can't joke around anymore. I have to set the queue. Let's go to the queue. I think he belongs in the queue. Jordan Love. We could put in the queue. Can I get Malik Willis in the queue? Can I see the tight end queue, please? Daniel Jones. We could put the queue there also. So you can put Rogers and Berset in the queue. I would put Stroud in the queue also. Are you going to put McMillan in the queue or are you just going to ignore the queue? We must go to the queue. Per Adam Levitan's writer demands, the queue must have at least five players. We better get to the queue. This is getting ridiculous. I thought I'd really stepped up my queue game. Levitan essentially bullying me into being a queue-maxer. Yeah. Like if I was on the sticks, I would have had those guys in the queue. I'm just saying, I'm just saying if I was on the sticks, it made a big difference being able to actually fucking see the queue. Now that you've moved the big ass circles out of the way, I want to do some fucking high stakes shit, not streaming. It was still a disaster because you're just queuing like, you're just queuing like the top guys. We are living in a post-queue world. You didn't control the queue in the proper manner. Maybe what you, the value you lose in the queue, you gain through having a great co-pilot here. It's nice for you to admit that sometimes the queue goes wrong. God forbid we were able to see the players when we draft. Yeah, I would put Josh in the queue, start setting up your queue for rounds ahead. I would have had to in the queue. You know, I think in the future, I'm just going to do these solo. Oh, that was good. That was good. I wish we would have included a little bit of Levitand being on the sticks last week because we know how that went. He says he wants the sticks, but he can't handle the sticks. He just wants to chirp the streamers. He just wants to chirp us. Levitand did unlock a new bro, the Q bro. The ultimate Q bro. Shout out. Shout out to the editing team over there at Establish the Run. I think that's Dave Holmes who works on those. Very good. Very good. Ty says, I'm, here's the thing. If you really want to, Ty says, I'm team Levitand. I've always got several guys in the queue. Me not using the queue is a strategic decision when I stream. I don't know if you guys are aware of this fact. This actually, this actually happens on off and on the clock a ton. It'll happen in ship chasing drafts. There is a powerful psychological effect of when you start talking about players, players you want, and you talk about them glowingly. Other people who are in the draft room who are listening to the stream, they start to really like that idea you're talking about. They say that does sound pretty good, Pete. And then they take your fucking players. So there's a professional streamer movement. Where you just remember who you want. And this is a shocking thing, but it's called a mental queue. You just put a little of these guys in your mental back pocket. And when you need to take them, you take them. But Levitand would rather me telegraph it to the entire world. The rest of the draft. By all means on your own time, go queue maxing. By all means. And I will queue for Levitand. That's just now part of the demand. Levitand was going to quit this show if I didn't start using the queue. So I get it. You know, we all make sacrifices. We all make sacrifices for our guests. Colton says he's responsible for having Malik Benson added to the player pool. Congratulations. He did drop two passes last preseason game though. Bummer to hear. Bummer to hear. See, Brandon says case in point. I just drafted Malik Benson and Savion Williams in my slow drafts. Oh man, this is going to be a long morning. I'm still dragging. I am still dragging, but. We have teams to draft. We have things to do, teams to draft. the chat is full of scumbag snipers. That's the thesis of Adam's video. Here's the thing. Adam, Adam's just an EV grinder, right? He doesn't want to sacrifice any EV. The problem is, is that once you cross the streaming Rubicon, it's an art. It's an art. You can't be too withholding, right? If you don't discuss what you want to do, if you don't discuss players, then what's the point of even streaming? But you also, I always say, you don't need to put it on a fucking billboard, all right? You don't need to put it on a billboard for the people. Some people want to put it on a billboard because they're too boomer to remember what picks would make sense for their team. Ooh, Nick, what was your personal favorite pick from the weekend on your teams? I mean, I mentioned it before. I took two Jacoby Lane shares. I was getting really good value on him. 13th, 14th round. You know, Cyrus Allen went 10th round. Stribling was going sixth round. I think Jacoby Lane was a really good value. I loved getting Malik Neighbors in the third with the third round reversal. So getting to go Walker, James Cook, then Neighbors. I love that. I got really good prices on some quarterbacks. I got seventh round Lamar Jackson. I got like Bo Nix in the 13th round. Those were some of the, some of the favorites off the top of my head. Wins Battle Royale in a few weeks, man. It's coming. It's coming. We got to, we got to, you know, still wrap up best ball summer, but the BR streets will be here before we know it. Let's look at some of the fill rates too, of what's going on with these contests these days. So we have best ball, mania, which picked up here a bit. We're at 76%. I have 26 more of those to do. I need to do some, some math on my rate because I'm doing like four here. I'll do four on Wednesday show. By the way, I have the, the lineup for Wednesday's best ball breakfast. Let me pull it up just so I, I make sure that I remember it. So on Wednesday's best ball breakfast, 10 AM, I'm going to do a solo draft to kick things off. We're going to have Megan shout from the fan speak network at 1045. We're going to have goofy chicken at 1130. And then at 1215 jam to win annual tradition to have jam to win swing by in advance of the DFS season. I'll obviously be live with him in season on Fridays for the block party, but I always got to get a best ball draft with jam to win. So that's going to be a fun lineup on Wednesday, solo draft, Megan goofy chicken, JM we'll keep rolling these Wednesday drafts, other announcements for this week. I mentioned often on the clock tomorrow at noon. I think we'll cover first quarter drafts. What are we looking at with those first quarter? Yeah, I think we do first quarter tomorrow. Swolecast at 3 PM. Eastern ADP chasing main event draft tomorrow night, Wednesday, best ball breakfast. Like I mentioned Thursday, we'll have the best ball breakfast. We'll have the best ball breakfast. I don't care what you're doing. you pick I don't care who's in the queue well it doesn't it doesn't matter it doesn't matter anyways what do you what do you want me to do you want me to drain a thousand dollars trying to fill a mastiff right now where we just bitch at each other for for 45 minutes you know I can't believe that the um uh the big dog or whatever was called the 500 I can't believe that filled like three weeks early I was surprised on that too do you think that they undersized it bait like did it also feel early last year or do you think the demand for the big dog was up this year um if I someone in the chat can correct me I want to say that the big dog and BBM went down to the wire last year or close to like they were neck and neck and this year the interest in the big dog was seemed much higher than last year um I will say this this contest is about to fill I didn't get an entry in here you want to do 101 Dalmatian draft does that make it move for you Levitan on my account with me on the sticks I mean if you want I mean I don't mind doing it I'll I'll I'll Venmo you for my share of the Dalmatian if you want to be on the sticks yeah I want to be on the sticks okay then enter enter the contest okay hold on let me make sure my rankings are uploaded except I just want I want I love how this isn't a bit for you anymore you are like I literally need to control this draft by the way I'm I mean I actually you want to both enter it you want to should we both get in it yes perfect um tell me when you're in I'm not in I'm not in I'm not in I'm gonna need there's gonna be overflows this is gonna actually be a battle because now everybody's gonna want to get in this thing I don't care what I'm not in it yet I uh has this underdog thing run its course like can we play a DraftKings 555 like you're not even it does underdog even care anymore it's the deal still say now that there's been a transfer of power can you do a DraftKings 555 look I am still under contract with underdog so yes I'm not going to be drafting on other sites right now but thank you for checking in on if there's a loophole there I'll be sure to ask my underdog contact hey now that you guys sold I know you guys are still paying me every month is it okay if I draft a best ball team on another platform I know it doesn't matter anymore you still have to go to work every day but I was wondering if I could maybe draft on other platforms now uh the transfer I think that conversation would go listen you got to read the fine print dude when there is a liquidation event I've been in a lot of these contracts a lot of stuff gets voided when there's a liquidation event a lot of shit gets voided I'm just telling you I'm just telling you all right well uh the money hit my bank account the other day so so far it has not gotten voided but I will let you know if it does and don't worry I will be I'll look like Davis Matic promoting all these other best ball sites if that happens is there a is there an IG group 555 we can get in an IG group 555 oh my god tell me when you're in this draft oh god my underdog count's almost busted I barely have enough I have enough I need the I need the underdog money tell me when you're in I need the I need the IG group money I can't get in I need the IG group money you passed on it you passed on it okay you had to invest in top shot moments I'm so glad I have that John Morant okay oh god I'm tech lording one second this is unreal how many more of these do we have I'm being dead serious now uh dead serious we have so we'll have next week the week after that is labor day right so no we probably won't roll on labor day and then and then I don't know if anything will be open the following Monday the draft season goes so late into September this year I would say Levitan 1.5 over under on how many we have after this week are you in this draft okay I'm I'm three two one and I'm in all right good all right so I can this this is the dream right because I can screen share I can tech lord and you just get to draft for yourself this is the dream for all of us right it's not the dream because the people don't get to watch me operate the queue they're not they want to come here to learn to see how a queue gets operated okay you share your screen you could telegraph your picks to everyone and I'll get to draft in secrecy I don't know how to share my screen I'm not a fucking streamer I'm a drafter that last week I'm a drafter I'm not a streamer Mr. just had to top off his underdog accounts a real drafter yeah all right we are in here Levitan is the 108 and I have the 109 we are going to be I'm going to rename this video Pete and Adam battle in a 101 draft uh by the way before we get into this I mean how embarrassing is it for your teammates to do a prayer circle and then you have a sprained ankle I mean I wouldn't be able to go back to the team I would have to go on pup because I would not be able to go back and face my team I would have to go on pup because I would not be able to go back and face my teammates I'm not even joking I I do a prayer circle for you after every draft just knowing the trauma that you go through with me I mean what like did you guys even have time to get a rankings update out before the the ankle sprain yeah we we pushed that we pushed an update to uh completely remove genti when we didn't know and we moved Mike Washington up I think to like maybe 90 or 100 or 110 or something but then we immediately moved it back you know to where we thought it should be so yeah we're kind of playing it kind of like the um a little bit worse than the Jeremiah love situation for now while we wait wait for more info in terms of how much Doc we have on I mean I know everybody's saying prayer circle the the post said what it was like a moment of silence that they took is that what the the tweet said something like that I mean there's been so many overreactions and I feel like the Twitter Docs this year have like made it worse with like the overreaction to camp injuries there's more time this year before week one like there's just been crazy overreactions so I want to be I want actually on my tombstone uh that I did not tweet about the genti Mike Washington Saga during the three hour window where people were hyperventilating I was proud of that yeah you you were were you formulating a take you were waiting for the right time no I was just like man there's this stuff happens all the time like it's just um yeah it's just not I hope you have your cue set because you're on the clock buddy of course I have my cue set okay good good uh all right this is what we're drafting right now uh 101 dollar draft levitan and I are both in it it's four of 12 Advanced then one of five one of eight 23 seat final 30k to first it almost makes levitan happy to be alive to know he's on the sticks of his own draft I actually already have two entries in this I didn't and so this will be my last entry uh in this okay okay I'm not a streamer I'm a drafter is what T Bevan says right here Adam has a prayer circle before every stream that is q works dude all right okay let me like genti still going at the one two turn after after yesterday is kind of it's kind of funny uh yeah I still think there's a good chance he misses you know a couple games so yeah I I would not be taking him there yeah um all right I'm gonna grab a running back here I've been you know saying I'm gonna catch up a little bit on Omarian Hampton so I guess today's catching up on Omarian Hampton day or do we get the big dog now we'll get some Hampton here yeah I thought maybe you'd consider agent I we we tweeted a video of me and Silva kind of um talking negatively about um a-chan and um I've realized there's like you know the homely crowd does not um like does not worry about a-chan there were like a bunch of responses really was a bunch of responses to our video that were like um uh you guys don't know what you're talking about a-chan's gonna smash you know I I get people just like aren't worried I think in the home league settings so and his ADP on like ESPN and Yahoo I think is closer to maybe not Yahoo because it's super sharp there now but ESPN and sleeper I think the HN ADP is closer like 13 overall so it's like I'm trying to get inside the mind of these people because they're also the same people that are there to take any Jet any Cardinal any Brown but a-chan is somehow immune to the bad team stench I think it's like you know how we talk a lot of DFS you know in previous iterations of DFS everybody would just play whoever played well last week there's a lot of like whoever played well last year I think yeah all right levitan starts almond rot Derek Henry CD lamb Hampton I mean what is your I haven't pulled in updated ETR ranks today where do you guys uh have genti now with the the ankle we're closer to the two three turn um we are at 25 overall yeah and this was my take in the first draft based on where I saw Mike Washington going and seeing genti still go early second mid-second is that it's now flipped and people are under reacting to both genti and Mike Washington just thinking everything snapped back to normal it's like I don't I don't think everything's back to normal yeah no I mean if you really couldn't put any weight on it um it's bad if it's a high ankle sprain that was that bad it can be like really bad and that's a really bad injury to have a bad high ankle sprain if it's a bad low ankle sprain he could play week one but I'm not going to pretend to be a Twitter doctor I think where we're at now is good while we wait for more information yeah yeah and we we just know there's a stickiness to the ADP but like taking him at the top of this tier like over Walker Chase Brown Hampton Henry HN just feels really bad to me yeah no I I was kind of I was taking I'm like kind of underweight gentee because I've been taking Walker over gentee a lot and like that kind of leads me to be underweight gentee so maybe it's a chance for me to catch up a little bit but I you know taking the guys that are already hurt coming into this season I just never feel great about it yeah for sure uh does not feel and again we we we still need an updated diagnosis right we just heard that was the ankle sprain but we still don't know the severity right for sure yeah all right Levitan is about to be on the clock he has 26 names in the queue Trey McBride goes what are you going to do here Levitan yeah I know people are worried about the Brees groin thing I'm not that worried I think that is like not that severe and so I think it's close between him and Ladd um or him and Javante but um Brees would be my favorite there yeah I was gonna grab Brees if you didn't um I have Lamb so I'm gonna go ahead and grab Javante in this format and just play a couple of Cowboys up top this is a 4-12 advance here so I think some of the extreme structural builds don't play quite as well when you're just trying to finish top third um yeah Flowers did you have Flowers the guy that like home league bros do not want to really draft that much also for what it's worth but he goes 28 overall here and that one makes sense right because in that well I'm it shouldn't I'm saying at least psychologically I can get in their in their shoes and they're like this guy doesn't score touchdowns and so home league bros don't like guys who don't score touchdowns yeah well listen I don't like guys who don't score touchdowns either buddy um let's see I have been playing up uh ETN in this range with Kamara out another guy who should get us off to a fast start here so I will start high t with three running back picks yeah I actually think that um the longer it goes with no news on Jacobs like he's gonna start going way higher I really like Jacobs that much but I think from like a CLV play he is gonna start going early third round the closer we get with him so I'm gonna start high t with three running back picks with no news on the suspension yeah yeah I mean we were I was talking about this with Kittle before you came on and people were like do you think the Kittle ADP what what do you think it's gonna get to and I'm just like I don't know man I feel like people are just anchored to not wanting to click Kittle that I don't know they've already said he's gonna he's live for week one or week two what more can be said at this point I also kind of wonder if that's the deal with Jacobs too I mean at this point I get if you told people he was playing week one I still don't even know how much he he moves up but I don't know if he's gonna be playing week one I don't know if he's gonna be that should be the base assumption right now oh for sure yeah I you know and I'm I'm excited about Marshawn Lloyd too but I mean I still don't trust him to stay healthy or sustain a big workload or anything like that so yeah I I think I haven't I do not have very much Jacobs at all but I've been taking him more lately in that like mid 40s low 40s range um yeah Levitan and I did uh separate drafts just to have identical structures through four rounds anchor wide receiver up top three dusty running backs right after it just having the time of our life Blizzy sent in five dollars to ask legitimately what would the offer need to be for Levitan to do this again next year he hates this but everything has a price I I know you're completely right Blizzy if I hit up Levitan with this text in like April I was like yo man are we are we running this back he's leaving that on unread for sure no I like doing it I'm I'm always down to hang with Pete and the and the I'm down to hang I there's something about me I get like stressed or like tilted when we start doing higher stakes stuff if you want to come on and fire some fucking lotto tickets at 7-11 that's fine if you want to actually draft then we should be actually drafting not not doing a quote-unquote content no you you get uh you get stressed out either way you want to have your cake and eat it then you're like oh man now we're getting sniped by the people on the stream it's too stressful doing that and then if we do the lotto then you're like oh it's a lotto it doesn't make it move for me I can't get up for this so you don't you don't know what you want dude you say that me and Herzig did a 5-5-5 on stream it was the most off-the-wall 5-5-5 I've ever been on on Randers just going out of his way to take uh Lamar from me there um okay are we worried about Evans that these injuries I've seen some stuff on that that makes me at least a hair concerned I mean I think he'll be fine it sounds like mostly rest stuff to me we still have two and a half weeks but I think there's a little bit of concern I would still take him I wouldn't worry but I would still take him though but you did take me I mean McLaurin at 5-8 it's a good price yeah and also I wanted to set up the Jaden um Jaden stuff um all right here's the team we do have uh I think I think he is on board you guys having to pick the same position each round so yeah we are now why receiver round one running backs two three four we come back get our veteran wide receivers I mean we are almost identical here thematically on this draft yes yeah and I like this structure especially on on especially on um on underdog I've been leaning into more wide receiver stuff on on DK um but yeah I think on underdog I like these kind of these kind of setups and I do think like the way that we've been doing it over the last couple of years is that like the back of wide receivers gotten stronger with the valet and Malachi fields and just some other stuff that seems stronger now wide receiver I took Tyler Warren there so Adam and I are going to deviate structurally as he grabs Daniel's how are you feeling about the Warren injury that was kind of like a quick fake out last week yeah I think fine we didn't really put much of a dock on him at all very very small uh on Tyler Warren and yeah it's similar to I feel like these groin slash add up their things with some rest there are typically fine so yeah I mean the bigger concern for me on Tyler Warren is just Keenan Allen eating lunch you know I don't want to like underestimate that but I am maybe biased from last year where I just you know brushed off the Keenan thing way too much and it buried a lot of the stuff I had with lad and so yeah I don't know I'm having a hard time with the cold stuff because I just don't see how it it doesn't seem to fit great unless Alec Pierce is there to take the top off the defense or someone uh Trevor says I should have sniped him just for the bit that that might have been the end of it that might have been the end of everything there no I don't get mad about sniping it's all in the game it's like the morons that like worry about what people are other people are doing at the blackjack table you know just if other people want to do negative EV stuff it's not it's fine like I'll figure it out all right I have Stevie Lamb Omar in Hampton Javante Williams Travis A. Chan Mike Evans Tyler Warren Levitan has Amin Rod Henry Brees Hall Josh Jacobs Terry McLaurin and Jaden Daniels we're drafting a hundred and one dollar team here just so Levitan can just feel alive just a little bit on a Monday morning yeah I have what's known as a mild gambling problem how did I see did you guys do a an FFPC main event last night did I see that yeah we posted it uh we actually recorded it because Silva gets so I tilted about the the sniping so uh so we recorded it and um and released it last night yeah I you know I'm not much of an FFPC bro so I don't have a great feel there like it does it's like some of the tight end stuff was just jarring you know we had to take Don Kincaid in fucking like round six you know so um yeah if you want to see me and Leone and Silva tilted each other that's that's a good video I know and I saw Leone just did his his uh his annual Dalton Kincaid cope tweet as well where he's like he's actually a really good value again the fourth year in a row so I do like yeah where what what were some of the price checks uh like guys like Stribling and other big risers in that where did you yeah really high I mean in redraft the buzz guys go go really really high um yeah so yeah uh can you allow me to address my cue here we quickly stop talking for a second yeah by all means can we take a moment of silence for Ashton Gentry's ankle and for Adam Levitan's cue everybody please be quiet you , wait you took you took Brandon Aubrey in round 12 we did yeah and actually oh my god you guys I like looking back hold on I'm uh oh good thing I have my cue all set up because I don't have to worry here that um we can go ahead and take uh QJ um yeah looking back like I think I misinterpreted some of the data that that Mark had had given me about how much better over a point is and I think that's a good thing I think that's a good thing I think that's a good thing I think that's a good thing I think that's a good thing I think that's a good thing Aubrey um has been um it was pretty embarrassing because no one took a kicker until like five rounds later so yeah it was it was probably pretty bad um for sure all right Levitan goes QJ there at pick 80 I feel like we haven't talked about him a ton QJ over over Godwin I know you like Lemon a bit his price is dropping uh what's the new enthusiasm for him yeah Uh, nothing. um too big i think that i might be able to get oh this was named by god i suck um oh the herbert thing yeah but but i do not have very much qj i do think that he's going to be there in two wide receiver sets i'm not like i don't think qj is a good pick but like past adp here why i don't have him um i think that's mostly fine um yeah and godwin i'm just worried he's never i'm okay with godwin i'm just worried he's like never going to be the same um off of all the injuries but opportunity is awesome for sure you got sniped on herbert anyways to the lad drafter i took dac to go along with cd and hampton and then you snap click stephon diggs at 89 yeah i mean if digs can do it last year coming off an acl playing only 57 of the snaps i know he's a year older now but i'm like oddly optimistic on digs um for an older guy for an old receiver and i try not to do that but um yeah yeah and especially in that i mean in this format again where you start three running backs early and you want to get off that fast start you can definitely correlate i think a little heavier on on the teams in this format with the smaller pods as well definitely makes sense to to load up on on commanders yeah let me see here um uh jason says y'all wild for fading qj i don't think uh adam is fading qj in fact he just took him in a 101 draft yeah i can if anyone i'm happy to check i can look on my on my other computer here with my other mouse um i can check what i have of qj because i do not think it's very much at all yeah i i mean my i was light on qj as well and now i i feel like i just want to be light on lad the rest of the way and start having a lot more qj and harris is kind of how i think i'd prefer to play it really you don't you don't like ladder you're just trying to balance it out no i'm just i'm spooked the way mike mcdaniel is talking about that offense and i just don't i think wish casting lad into a jalen waddle or tyreek role in this offense just isn't going to necessarily be how it operates and i think the way he's going to use these guys that he's going to be more a piece of the offense as opposed to a focal point is kind of my concern yeah i think that's fair i just think maybe the offense could be so good that's going to carry lad along with it but i think that that's fair um i love saying that's fair now isn't that didn't sherman come up with a show that's like that's fair or something like that yeah yeah it was a it was uh a famous phrase on ship or adp chasing uh when you want to be done with the argument but you actually hate what someone just said all right you are back on the clock i hope you have the cue yeah i'm deciding if i need to uh force tight end here or go more wide receiver i think i'm available what'd you say you going fanning yeah yeah yeah i can't believe deshaun watson starting but maybe it's a good thing maybe they'll just like see how bad he is right away and then go to shadir but the other part that concerns me is like what if shadir has been so bad in practices that they're like well i guess we'll just go with deshaun but i don't know maybe they're just paying him so much they have to feel like give him a chance in week one it is great like jeff schwartz has tweeted out the browns always wanted watson to start that's been very clear and he's starting competition is mostly a myth and especially at qb i mean they're just they're gonna have their hand forced like he he's gonna be so dog shit how are they gonna be able to keep that charade up yeah all right levitan gets his first tight end in round nine fan and i grab xavier worthy as my wide receiver four here wandell robinson comes off the board i think i'm gonna keep getting wide receivers here i'm gonna go with casey concepcion um stribling already gone uh i'm gonna grab concepcion here yeah um the non-sexy quarterback that's my favorite too that's like i actually think has a decent chance to lead the league and uh touchdown passes and maybe passing yards is goff like this tier is so flat so anytime i i'm with lions and i have lions i have an incredible amount of of lion stuff um i i like taking golf yeah i mean between like golf and stafford right are the two that just feel relative to their weapons and i mean you know it for dfs right like these guys i mean aren't the lions literally implied for 24 plus points every game of the season in the headlines like 30 oh for this year yeah but like it seems like every time i look they're implied for 30 yeah yeah the yeah it's a nice range here golf goes 113 to you stafford 116 who did you guys draft at your quarterback spots last night in the high stakes god i don't even remember uh oh jayden maybe jayden and baker i can't remember yeah we got the quarterbacks go so late there you know this is one quarterback starting and like that's it's hard to adjust i'm probably not like the one to ask redraft questions about right now i've been doing so much best ball stuff that it's hard for me to kind of get my head around you know there were insane quarterbacks going in round 10 and like the backup quarterbacks weren't going so much later adam don't you know i mean this is you run a fantasy football site i mean we are supposed to leave best ball brain behind so you can make boobies and you can make buku bucks selling draft kits and talking redraft and brandon aubrey and you say you can't even remember who your quarterbacks are in a redraft league god i've done so many drafts dude uh what are you just ripping the five five fives yeah and then i've been doing a bunch of the off-screen stuff um or some of the off-screen stuff with dan yeah some of that and some other stuff too um there's always action man it's crazy best ball is like captivated more people than just like the fantasy community like there's so many people that love the non-managing of your team aspect oh yeah um all right what are you gonna do here levitan at 128 after grabbing goth last round um yeah i have my cue set i think it's keaton for me here um i'm just gonna keep going i'm just gonna keep going i'm just gonna keep going i'm just gonna confirming based on my other i have my cue set up to not only for this pick but to look ahead to further fix and it's not just a cue it's not just a cue of like the top names in the ranks or whatever it's a cue set up specific to my team that's the difference that's what you say oh i'm using the cue you're not you're just starring the guys at the top of the rank you need to use your cue specific to your team which is uh well what's the difference you acted like there's two versions of the cue a cue just for your next pick but then this other special cue you're just starring the that also works for future picks how do you delineate that um by ordering them in the order of rank and adp this is not rocket science you are i think you use this as a crutch man i need you to raw dog it feel alive all right i grabbed baker mayfield to stack up with godwin as my qb2 levitan does grab keaton mitchell there let's see so i am at a 2351 levitan's at a 2441 here this could be the spot for me to probably just grab ferguson and go all in i also think aaron jones is a nice value here but what do i want more what do i want more i think i would prefer to go all in on this dallas stack with ferguson as my titan too here yeah and i need to check the board here see this is the other thing that you don't do when you're on stream check the board to see what our opponents i literally likely to take levitan do you know what do you know what i'm always checking when i'm not looking at my cue the board because that's what's up on the screen in fact that's all we're ever checking no you're not checking you're talking and doing bits and making jokes you're not seeing see i didn't i if like i wasn't clear there if i thought she could get back to me or not i think i would put it maybe like i would put it like 75 percent chick would have gotten back to me but because i was streaming and talking i didn't really have a good chance to go through everybody's team and check there's no way i'm with sure with like quarterbacks if you're on the turn i think you can ballpark with decent accuracy there is no way you can accurately project from the back side of the board 18 picks and going individually through every team's tight end construction there's no way you can accurately ballpark that 80 that's that's the actual number that's the true price yeah right i mean what's chig's adp right now anyways 147 147 yeah it was funny like chig was a very popular selection and then post digs like you you do actually get him sliding a decent bit now yeah and we were below market on on chig a lot he's kind of come back to us um since the since the dig signing i know there's some stuff in his profile that's that's not great from tennessee but i do think he's gonna play a ton for them they're gonna play a lot of two tight end stuff i think i think levitate i think you should become a best ball streamer no thank you i think you sell etr and you just become a pro streamer eight hours a day all right uh levitan's up to a 2442 he has the big commander stack with daniels mclaurin digs and chig i have the big dallas stack with lamb giovante dac and ferguson and we are now heading into round 13 this is levitan's dream drafting on his own account not having to talk adding 19 players to the queue he feels incredible yeah man i'm getting volume and this is a great use of my morning like you know great good what are you going to do here trey tucker yes i think yeah i'm going to take i'm going to take dimes at this price i have tyler warren i don't think i had to have a qb3 with dac and baker but this price seems right to me so what are you doing um in season are you like streaming fucking brs where you do the same shit except it's gonna be your streaming brs or whatever it's called excuse me what is the ig groups version of pr you can't just say the same joke you gotta you gotta mix it up a little bit it's called it i mean it's a callback you're the one that taught me to do it yes um no yes we will be streaming we i do have some new shows to announce including one with michael leone will making be making a return to the channel as part of my friday dfs block so we will be doing some solver stuff on uh on fridays you're lucky that i didn't hit you up for that i needed a gpp bro in my life i'll see you fucking week 18 get it get off here until then god i can't believe you're burning leonie's time on this he didn't clear that with corporate i think he actually did he actually sent me some bullet points of follow-up questions so i'm pretty sure those came from corporate oh you're right i do remember that now you think i mean leone's he's always gonna make sure he gets permission come on um all right let's see here i think i'm in the market for another wide receiver i've been trying to get some more trey harris let's do trey harris here yeah i like that you took trey tucker round 14 who's he gonna be for you yeah i'm gonna open up one more back stick i shouldn't even say because all these freaks are listening but yeah i'm gonna open up one more yeah this is let's let's volley this back to you what is adam going to be doing in season talking about daily fantasy fantasy cash games yeah i haven't heard it's a fast growing segment of the uh of the addressable market is dfs cash yes basically what levitan are trying to say is we're going to devote our entire falls to uh uh game formats that are just slowly inching back towards zero i think that it i'm surprised that corporate doesn't make you do just a full season of waiver wire and trade target videos at one time i did buddy at one time i did you know one of my mottos at etr has been making less money is fine but like we like higher exchanging less money for not doing stuff like waiver wire show is like the trade-offs that like i think we need to be making so yes um can you do you guys have any statement about the uh the props package stuff are you able to talk about that um i'm gonna prob i'm gonna address it at some point i i don't think that um most people understand like props was not part of in season nothing's changing with our in-season product whatsoever props was its totally owned product and for a lot of different reasons that maybe i'll get into at some point we decided not to do the product this year so i'm gonna address it at some point i don't think that most people understand we're gonna address it at some point we decided not to do the product this year so i'm gonna address it at some point we decided not to do the product this year so i'm gonna address it at some point we decided not to do the product this year so i'm gonna address it at some point we decided but um yeah that's just yeah like there's so many people with takes out there that are not involved at all and you know people that are upset i they're upset because we've been fucking crushing you know like well it's a good problem to have if people are upset that they can't give you money for something that they they want right yeah um so yeah it's a very small number of people that are actually like affected uh by this um and yeah at some point maybe we'll talk more about it it um but yeah there's yeah it's kind of tough to talk about because contractually we really can't so gotcha yeah all right uh what adam is legally allowed to talk about is this 2462 team he has drafted in the little dalmatian here uh you took ad mitchell with your last pick i took trey harris on the on the trey tucker stuff uh is he a priority target for you in this range uh what what has you excited about trey tucker yeah i'll talk more about it in a second the trade that that thing but i do think trey tucker has gotten um a little better recently nailer played in that preseason game and tucker uh didn't um which i thought was at least somewhat uh notable um hold on here i'm almost on the clock hang on he needs to set his cue folks jaylen noel goes 173 valet goes 174 the six hole here this person pays attention to his preseason lane douglas valet do you have the cue set you do uh valet i think is a is a good pick if you're like i have a ton of valet but just at way better prices i think he's a better pick um at this price there's a concern for me at 174 that tyson comes back in like week four week five and then round 15 valet doesn't look great but i guess it's pretty late it's probably fine i was panicking a little bit there forgot to set my cue kind of realized i was on the clock um we need more running backs we're going to take brian robinson maybe the least sexy pick you can make at this range of the draft someone told me my draft this morning levitan was boring they said i love you pete but this is the most boring draft not not me like hosting just like the team itself was boring to me that probably means it was a decent team right boring is good boring can be good boring can be good um yes uh jayden blue goes i would have considered him but on my giovante team i was going to uh yeah i'm worried about you're not worried about blue i this this not sounded good for him lately i've kind of stopped on on blue but but to me i was talking about it before has the thesis changed like you were trying to get a little standalone value because he's going to catch passes you get an explosive play i don't think any of us thought he was going to get 20 touches if giovante went down no but are you sure he's he's going to have that that role the pass catching role i mean that's what they've been talking about all summer i know but now they're going back to saying i don't know he hasn't been consistent i don't know if we can trust him you know what i mean it's just i don't know i don't feel great about it yeah um i'm trying to think what i want to do here i think i'm going to take kate otten and just rip it in on this baker stack here let's do a quick recap of these teams we have a three four six three for me three four six two for levitan he's on the clock he took mendoza it's his qb3 with tucker what are you going to do here um i think this probably should be pacheco but i just hate that guy and now he has any injury i just i can't face it probably should have been pacheco though but i went caitlin black i was thinking about black there too where where are you at with you know we've we've said all the time that you're all off season and i think sam actually just had a tweet about this so we'll talk about this with him too of like if we knew who the running back to was in san francisco they'd be a priority target do you it sounds like you feel confident that black is that guy over jordan james right now jordan james been out with a rib injury returned to practice on saturday so he's been out black was out also black got back first so he started generating some buzz from beat writers which is why the adp has been rising but again jordan james got back on saturday so i think the competition is back on i'm not like super confident going to be caitlin black i always thought caitlin black had like a slight edge it's just the more recent pick but i know a lot of the prospect bros think that jordan james profile is way better so it's been a tough spot for me i i i take both them i think if something happened to mccaffrey they would play both um yeah let's see yeah emma john i was i was torn there i was thinking about black or emmett johnson um you get to your fifth running back there with keaton mitchell i'm a little thinner with the three up top and then waited all the way to brian robinson if people wanted a mike washington price check in this one 123 there in the 11th round uh yeah i want to this is a good one to talk to you about as well because this report is a lot different than what we've been hearing about most of the offseason with regards to monty being the bell cow all this talking about there's the one beat reporter i hadn't even seen him talking that much about the team up to this point are you blind buying the 50 50 mark split report no i mean i I think we saw what Woody Marks could do last year in a full-time role, and it was just like, you really want to get that back out there? This is stemming from Woody Marks' preseason performance, which was impressive, but I think they brought Monty in to be a workhorse. I don't think he's going to be that efficient, and so maybe if they get tilted at that, they go to more Woody Marks, but no, we didn't really move much on that. Maybe a hair we might have moved down on Dave Montgomery, but I already wasn't super enthused about Dave Montgomery. He strikes me, I don't think the dead zone at running back is really that live anymore. Hold on, I'm on the clock here. Yeah, so I could do more exciting stuff here, but I think I want to be a little bit more correlated, so I'll take Tesla here. What was I talking about? Oh, so I don't think the dead zone is that prevalent anymore. People are so woke to the profiles of dead zone backs, but if you just want to define one, like Dave Montgomery, I don't think anybody likes his setup or anything about it other than, yeah, he's going to get 300 touches, so I've kind of been out on him for the most part in that room. Wait, what's not to like about the setup? A team that wants to run the ball, he's going to have a lock on goal line carries. They keep losing wide receivers by the day. I like his setup. Yeah, I guess, just like this team has not been able to run the football for so long due to offensive line issues. Quarterback cannot threaten the defense. I think they're going to play with a ton of low score. Maybe that's fine for Montgomery. Like, yeah, I'm just not like super excited about it. So Levitan grabbed Tesla there to stack up, double stack with Goff. I took Ted Hurst to double stack with Mayfield. I had an interesting choice because I was thinking about Sean Tucker, who comes back, but I actually think the pick I'm going to make here is a little bigger swing, and I want to hear you talk about Seth McGowan maybe emerging as the clear RB2 behind Javante, and I do have dimes on this. I don't know if that's a good thing for the squad. Yeah, so on Sean Tucker, first of all, you know, he has to beat out Josh Williams. There was speculation from Greg Allman today, and I was going to look at this closer, but that Sean Tucker may not be as safe as it seems. I don't know that I buy that, but I was at least going to look at it more. On Seth McGowan, yeah, DJ Giddens has been hurt. You know, I thought it was going to be, you know, kind of a coin flip. Maybe Giddens is a slight favorite to beat out McGowan. Giddens has been out with a hamstring for most all of camp, and McGowan has reportedly been one of the Colts' best players at camp for what that's worth. You're really asking what happens if Jonathan Taylor goes down. I don't think they're just going to be like, oh, yeah, cool, let's give Seth McGowan 20 touches, but yeah, I think he's, as someone especially in BBM stuff that probably was not drafted in every league, I think he's worth it in 18, 19, 20. And you snapped off Michael Mayer as your tight end. Right in three there, kind of did a cheap Raiders stack on the back end, Trey Tucker, Mendoza, and Mayer. Yeah. Levitan, I know you're still setting your cue, but you're done drafting. Like, once you're done with 18, you don't have to put more players in the queue. Yeah. Do you get a Slack message? No, I was reading the chat. I was reading your chat. Yeah, so, you know, we've talked plenty about the Mayer stuff. He is my most clicked player, and not because I, like, am in love with him so much, but he just kind of fills a lot of the stuff that I like with the late-round stuff, and the Mendoza-Mayer backdoor is one that I do a ton. I'm just so confident Mayer is going to be starting the back half of the year where I can't say the same for Geno, Brissette, some other quarterbacks that go. So, yeah, you know, when I start thinking, like, I'm going to need a third quarterback, the Trey Tucker pick was one reason I wanted to set that up. And then if somebody took Mendoza before me, I took A.D. Mitchell over somebody else that I liked. I forget who, but I took A.D. Mitchell over somebody else that I liked just because I wanted to be sure I had the Geno out also there if I needed. What about Tesla? I mean, obviously, when you have Goff, I assume, I don't think I ever even think about Tesla much. I guess Goff is the one spot at 200, just get a little touchdown equity there. I do not have much Tesla. I mean, there's reports that he is under pressure. Yeah, I have. I have 3.8% Tesla in fees and 4.6% in fees on Quinton Johnston. Yeah, I think Tesla is in a battle. I think they want him to win it, but I think he's in battle for that wide receiver three job with a bunch of other dust balls. So, yeah, it's not great. I think if I didn't have Goff, I would have taken Fields or there's one other guy I had in my queue. Kishon Booty was also in my queue. I think Booty, if he stays, if he stays in New England, is fine. And maybe he ends up somewhere like New Orleans or Houston. Like, I don't, Booty to Houston makes a lot of sense to me. Like, a lot. Where are you at? Because I was talking about it before. I feel like the Tank Dell shit is real ominous right now. I don't take Tank Dell. I have way more Knoll. I have 2.8% Dell and 16% Knoll, which I don't feel great about 16% Knoll either, but I'm just, Dell can't practice. Back-to-back days, how's he going to play in games, you know? Yeah, that's why they're going to have to give it to David Montgomery 24 times a game, Brian. I don't disagree with you. Let me see how much Montgomery I have. I have 4.7 Montgomery. Okay. How much Swift do you have? Because I guess he's the other guy who was going in that range there. 11, 11 Swift. Yeah. I've tried to do my best not to be as hardcore on my player takes this year, but the big player take that I do have is God. I'm looking at this now. I have 23%. Can I? Kenneth Walker. That seems good. And like 2.3% Gentee, not because I hate Gentee, but because I take Walker over Gentee. So I got like really behind Gentee there. So you just, that whole thing. I was doing the anti-prayer circle. I was just going to say that you tried to sneak that in as like, oh man, I'm like, he went too all in on, you know, the one pick you'd really want in that range. And oh man, I accidentally got one. Way underweight. The guy who now looks like an awful pick at the one, two turn, man. Maybe I picked the wrong year to go all in on my player takes. Yeah. Yeah. Did out of just victory lap. That's exactly what happened. I'm glad you guys clocked that as quickly as I did. You know, it didn't really register with me because I just was in my head. Gentee is fine, but I, you know, maybe he's not fine. You know, I wasn't trying to victory lap. Let's see. Let's see what I am here. My Gentee 7.4%. So, you know, look, was I front row with a candle at the vigil? No, but I was in the back paying my respects. I was still being quiet. I wasn't elbowing people up there to kind of lead the moment of silence, but I was, I was there. I was there. Yeah. All right. Let's, let's recap these teams. We started with, we started the same start, right? Basically the same start. We did. We did. What was this? Is this Dalmatian two? That's actually a, um, great thing to have on your tombstone, uh, 2026 Dalmatian two winner. I G group Dalmatian to, Oh my goodness. Uh, three, five, seven, three. Here's my team. Uh, Dak Baker in dimes, uh, Omarian Hampton, Javante Williams, Travis HN, Brian Robinson, and Seth McGowan, CD lamb, Mike Evans, Godwin, Xavier worthy, Casey Concepcion, Trey Harris, and Ted Hearst, Tyler Warren, Jake Ferguson, Cade Otten. So, uh, all three of my quarterbacks stacked up with their tight ends and some pretty big team bets on Dallas, Tampa Bay in Indy. Let's see. I think by the way, I think those are good, good team bets. Like Dallas plays so fast. I think their defense is going to be better this year, which gives me a little bit of pause, but like they play so fast. They're so talented on offense and yeah. I, and Tampa like when Baker was healthy last year, I mean, their offense was really shredding. So yeah, I, I like those as, as team bets and also on underdog, especially when you correlate your quarterback with tight end, you know, it's such touchdowns are such a big part of your tight end score anyways. And so obviously quarterback throwing touchdowns is like the number one driver of, of their points. So yeah, I like that. All right, Adam, because you are a pro streamer and because you were on the sticks of this draft, I will not be recapping it for you. You will have to list off the players on this squad. Jesus. This is embarrassing. All right, guys, we're here for the Dalmatian, the Dalmatian to 2026 recap. Here's what I did. I got Jaden Daniels here as my quarterback, one Jared Goff, and then the backdoor Mendoza stacks is something I've really been into here lately at the running back position. Try to be a bit of a barbell approach, running back early, running back late. Derek Henry, Brees Hall, a really nice price here on Josh Jacobs. I think keep Mitchell and Kalen black late. Maybe Kalen black could be the back up to Christian McCaffrey. I don't know. And then wide receiver is, you know, the anchor wide receiver play is something a lot of people are doing. Now the anchor, instead of bank, instead of hero running back, I'm proposing hero wide receiver. And I tried to execute that with a Monroe St. Brown and end up with seven there. And then I want to be sure in these smaller field contests, I have three, I have three tight. Don't lose steam. Keep it up. I can't fan and Chagan mayor. I can't. It's fucking. It's been enough, it's enough, it's enough. audio listeners because he did bail on it he did get terry mclaurin he does have quentin johnston stefan diggs trey tucker adenai mitchell isaac tesla chiga kanko he thought he might be able to push him around a whole round but then he did a bunch of math on the fly and realized he had only an 80 chance to get him so he decided to take him seven picks ahead at adp at pick 137 and then he just had to draft a backup tight end with his final selection do you have the time of your life here yeah actually it's been great you know somebody asked for about um i should go over my players that i'm that are totally dead that i'm up to my cock and i have still even though it's been a while since the injury i still have 15 percent pierce all even though it's been a while since the injury i still have you 12 percent tyson 14 percent burden hopefully he's okay but yeah it's gonna be fine right i hope so i mean we don't have hardly any doc at all did do you have so much pierce all just because every time you podcast with silva he reminds you that he once got shot i thought he was a good pick for a while there you know that's it uh yeah what uh what where are you taking tyson now like where what's a good price for you yeah i'm bad to ask because i've just been trying to like be out on it um i i do think that like there's a wide range of when he could come back we're at 135 right now on the underdog rankings i think we're a little bit higher on full ppr uh dk um you know that paris game in week seven if he doesn't make it back by week seven he's not going to paris he's not going to come back in paris and then they have a buy in week eight so then you're looking at week nine do you trust him to stay healthy after that that's really my bigger concern than when he comes back is like again four hamstring injuries in the last 12 months it's just it's just doesn't feel good uh to me at all but yeah it's an interesting bet i i like making the bet better and redraft where we did take him in that ffpc it's a 10-man bench and in some people have ir spots i think that's better there too yeah what uh are you on like one guy who i i was grabbing because i did a couple uh managed drafts over the weekend in vegas and i took joan johnson in both drafts i feel like he's just really undervalued right now we took him in the ffpc also um and you know certain tight ends in that in that tight end premium format are worth more than others joan johnson's a guy that can at least catch a bunch and shower narrative with with shuck also yeah like we both stacked up our tight ends here ferguson with dac you took chig uh with daniels which makes sense but do you think like in a vacuum i mean johnson probably clears both those guys agreed oh easily yeah yeah and in man in managed too like you said i mean with the 1.5 over there with the ffpc he's going to get you off to such a a fast start it's hard to envision not using him as either your starter or your flex uh in that format for for six seven weeks at the very least yes um yeah people keep mentioning the peptide stuff i you know i i'm not contractually obligated to to do this every week but everybody's taking them this was like oh when i got so fucking pissed i had will fuller i was like all in will fuller that year and he got busted for pads everybody in the nfl is doing pads how does the motherfucker that i am on is the one guy that gets busted and so if they don't get jordan like chris bell is already back like chris bell might play week one now they're saying this shit is insane george kiddell this shit zach charbonnet might be back in like october this shit is getting insane if the guy that i'm fucking on isn't taking the peptides i'm gonna be fucking pissed so if take them and don't fucking get caught that that's it don't don't do the will fuller stuff no no then you'll be tilted again because you'll be like i i was completely off him if i would have known he was taking peptides i would have been taking him at pick 100 i know what you're gonna do what are what do you get on the peptide stack rudman posted a photo this morning of him on the on the peptides you see this yeah he's on rena right i mean i don't know what he's on actually yeah like the stuff that tyson should be on i i don't know that much about it i think 57 is what um tyson should be on the recovery one i think some people the rena one or rita or whatever it's called is more like just getting jacked in general stuff do you see i i log in uh to pull up this rudman photo you see what uh the leonie quote retweet he just hit you with elon's the algorithm man i've been talking to some of my friends that the twitter algorithm is getting so good like i'm just talking about something and it the for you like hits me with porn anymore it's hitting me with actual funny shit that i've been talking about um it's crazy dude this could be you if you start taking peptides i wish man i would i i honestly like i love like the rudman and cody main stuff like i i wish i had more mass and size and definition i would do any i would i wouldn't do anything but i i'm i think it's awesome you don't want to you don't want to get in your let's get in the best shape of our lives adam i want to i want to what would you yeah for because what people always do they do like the body fat one what what would be the prop bet for you to get in the best shape of your life yeah we talked about uh you know me and bales and peter have talked about this off and on for 10 years about doing a uh dexa scan bet like all of the numbers that you get off of the dexa scan and that because that's supposed to encapsulate like everything like your sleep your eating your exercise um everything but yeah it's just about any physical stuff bales is gonna win it's like even if we handicap it like a win you know so it's hard to make bets no it take that takes me right back to what was the um when we did the uh oh speaking of which so i was with friedman in uh in vegas this past weekend and i was reminding him the last time i was in vegas with you you were wearing a hazmat suit checking whether a grown man had successfully ejaculated into a small cup i actually feel bad about that and um and in today's in today's climate like we might be like ostracized from society for even though i didn't ask him to do that it was totally voluntary no way it's the opposite dude culture's more open to bits like that than when we we did that then uh i don't think so i think they're gonna say that you forced this poor dude that you work with to uh check bales semen like that that is not gonna fly in today's uh in today's climate i will say it probably uh would hurt his future job prospects if that was more front of mind for for employers i have referenced it in the fantasy life slack one so i'm not gonna say that it's not gonna hurt his future job prospects and i but i was even really vague about it i was like i know where the the bodies are buried uh for friedman's former life i love i love friedman too he's the best um yeah all right dude uh you got market monday today you got a lot to discuss no we are folding market monday there's all the market monday stuff was news so um i know i said people can't live without it you're gonna have to live without it we are folding market monday into the news and ranking change ranking change show um so yes i'll be talking to silva about all of the market monday movers uh tomorrow all right beautiful uh so there you go check that out oh last day last last day for early bird on etr the draft kit plus in season bundle last day changing the price on that tomorrow so if you want uh draft kit plus in season if you already have draft kit and you want to upgrade to the early bird bundle price um email support and they'll take care of you there as well if you guys want the solver for your final push for drafts and i will be using them as well for the ig group battle royale and dog bowl drafts this upcoming fall the solver combo tool get access to it 20 off with promo code pete and you can make sure that you are getting your ashton genti exposure down to levels that adam levitan has had it at all summer uh all right levitan i'll let you go i'm gonna do a coffee giveaway here we're gonna bring sam sherman on in a sec i'll keep you posted on the schedule but i'm telling you you're in the middle of it i'm gonna do a coffee giveaway here we're gonna bring sam sherman on in a sec i'm gonna do a coffee giveaway here we're gonna bring sam sherman on in the home stretch one probably two of these left and then you're you're home free uh good two things two things before i get out of here i just want to address this from justin he says can you put this up why are in season no longer including projection in season includes dfs and fantasy projections in season never included full stat so i just want to make that distinction clear nothing is changing about the in-season product second thing uh before i get out of here on health i'm down a rabbit hole of possibly micro dosing cialis or uh viagra i have heard that like micro dosing this it sends the blood to where you need it not just your cock but everywhere so i'm down that rabbit hole also just wanted to give other people a little um there you go yeah all right and with that being said hashtag micro dose in the chat if you guys want a chance to win a free bag of coffee levitan will let you go we'll see you next monday stay hard stay drafting all right um sam i was gonna let just the chat watch this wheel spin while i ran to the bathroom here this morning but now you're on the hook to host this giveaway yourself am i on the stream you are on the stream right now can you hear me this always happens doesn't i'm here i'm here okay you're good good it's like a 10 second delay where it looks like i'm on the stream but you're like a spinning uh circle and i can't see anything so it's always it's always a fun way to start it you're here what i was saying to you is i i desperately have to go to the bathroom right now i was gonna do uh the giveaway but now i'm saying like you actually have to host this this giveaway why i'm why i'm gone all right happy so this is what i'm gonna do i'm gonna spin the wheel i want you to say every name that you see coming up and then i want you to say the winner no the winner sam gets a free promo code for a 12 ounce bag of basilaros and son's coffee and when it comes up i need you to announce who won can you do that for me i can do it all right last chance hashtag micro dose in the chat we are here with sam sherman we're going to be drafting a team here in a second but first i must go to the bathroom second we must give away some coffee compliments of our friends basilaros and sons here we go good luck good luck i'll be right back all right i'm very excited to see who wins this giveaway oh mack nova he didn't deserve to win okay dave gladstone is the proud winner of the coffee sponsor that i remember the name of uh very very excited for dave while we're here i noticed a lot of people in the chat saying wrong mic um there was a bit of a snafu this week where uh my apartment is being packed to move and my microphone was packed into some box that i cannot find so let's try this uh let's test a different mic this is my airpods mic we'll see if another one is better hold on one second okay dave gladstone congratulations you get your mic figured out yeah is this better or no no that's way worse no you're don't listen to the chat your first one sounded fine okay you said cool go back to it yeah yeah this this sounds right okay yes that's right don't don't listen to these guys they they they've become snobs man they they don't know they don't know good audio hit them in the middle of their head um all right dave message me i'll get you a promo code uh later today uh sam i just hopped in a draft we are ready to go here in the best ball mania streets let's see where we are drafting from uh the 101 baby let's go i feel like we haven't had a 101 in a while so you're thinking mike washington is the pick here or who would you like to go with yes i think where were you uh when all of that went down last night because i went to bed before i even heard that ashton gentry wasn't dead yeah i also went to bed before i heard he he wasn't dead it sounded really bad i mean the prayer circle for a sprained ankle what's going on in in las vegas uh so i didn't draft any teams i missed out on the whatever pick 100 gentry that some people got um so kudos to those people willing to take the risk there that clearly was it clearly works i heard i heard pick 100 on dk i feel like i saw people said like 45 50 was the most they they saw an underdog or did you see some 100 on underdog i personally didn't see it i feel like i saw like screenshots on my x timeline i could be remembering wrong but regardless they were you know they were good values i'm actually like curious you probably already chatted with this chatted on this with adam um oh yeah gibbs gibbs here um where do you think gentry should should go or like where would you rank rank him or take him i i think and again we're in this weird period where we haven't learned the the severity of it i think he's like early third i think you take him like right before breeze and jeremiah love would probably be my my my read on it what about you similar i think i'm a bit later i think i would take i mean british and love have their own injury concerns but just the timing of those guys injuries um i feel a little bit better on the severity of those i mean sometimes with these ankle sprains like there can be i saw some people speculating it's all pure speculation this point we don't know like there can be um ligament tears there can be small fractures associated with these bad ankle sprains um if you think of like bad examples of ankle sprains there was a kyron williams rookie year one where he basically missed like nine ten weeks there was the hampton one last year where he missed like multiple months with it with the sprain so it could be one of those like worse versions of a high ankle sprain we just don't know so i think yeah i'd take love i'd take uh breeze over him i think once you get to like the etn jacob's tier of running back that's the worst version of a high ankle sprain for me where the cost benefit analysis kicks in but i'm sure i'll be i'm sure at this point i'll be priced out there and people will take them before i have a shot at that so um that that's where i am yeah um i think the yeah excellent groundwork to get ashton at the at the two three uh yeah we there's still a lot we need to uh we need to know on that yeah yeah i i will say what it's like we the prayer circle has been become such a meme already it makes me wonder are people actually rooting for the injury to be uh significant just so that the prayer circle is justified or do we want it to be nothing and then we just make fun of the prayer circle for the the rest of all time i mean maybe the prayer circle just works i mean not enough people are talking about that i mean if every time a player gets injured and you do a prayer circle i mean it's 100 hit rate so far so i don't know i will say this i even there is the question of what is the value of the prayer circle and beyond just what he should what his value is in a vacuum of some of these unique combos here right of you're able to get potentially genti because there's i assume there's no genti gibbs teams at least before yesterday right yeah so we might have to have that conversation uh i do think it's it's an interesting one to uh to talk through here though if it's worth taking the risk just knowing that you're gonna have zero gibbs genti teams yeah it's it's not for me i i understand the logic of it um yeah he goes okay you're in the clear you're in the clear nico i think is a is a smash here yes um and then the second pick is interesting yeah nico pick i've been i've still i'm very into pickings here but i also don't mind if you have another frisky pick that you like i mean i i still do like love but i i'm getting so much from her in like late third that i think we i think we go pickings let's go pickings um yeah i think it's a good man nico i am just i'm fired up about nico but sorry did you say something on pickings no no i wanted to talk nico in that i'm kind of surprised that he's even falling now like i mean he is he is going to be a smash yeah i mean i just think he is always been like a bit of an underrated like real life talent at the wide receiver position i think like if i was you know if there was a gm draft gm fantasy draft of players from from scratch and like nico collins would would surprise people and how high he would get taken in that draft and i think i think like the way things is really exciting this is already a team i expected to run a ton of uh 12 personnel i think that's only going to increase i think there's a real chance in that 12 personnel it's now xavier hutchinson basically running sacrificial x routes in that formation so i think it's going to be like obviously the the jsn thing last year is a mega outlier you can never project someone to have the like 40 targets for outrun thing that we saw with jsn but if there is a receiver that is going to happen to like nico is in an incredible spot for that so i i am really really high in him yeah the other reason he gets pushed down here is because uh alave snuck into uh the second round here i believe mr mr is this your final bbm draft you said you're going to try to sneak in your final draft today uh so you got to go get your guys puka alave davante smith have you been pushing up alave with the the tyson news yeah alave i think it's like a similar uh argument honestly with with alave it's just that i do think tyson is still going to be back at some point so uh you know you can't push them up as far as it would nico but yeah i think alave is a great great late two pick now as well firmly ahead of like the uh pickens rice davante zay tier for me yep uh let's see here i mean it's so the amount of like injury conversations with players uh in the early rounds now is uh it's pretty wild obviously jeremiah love brief breeze hall falling back to the 12 hole feels like such a smash uh considering the severity of his compared to jeremiah love i agree i also think that the etn thing is interesting to me because like i know i think i've heard you talk i know you were like lower on etn to begin with but the fact that he moved so far down because of the camara re-signing blah blah blah and now camara is out with this sprained mcl for multiple months i mean for a player of his age i think that's like close to the nail in the coffin for camara being valuable this season and etn hasn't really budged back up so i i've been also kind of liking that like fourth round price on on etn with the camara news yep uh all right let's see what we're gonna do here at the four or five turn we start with gibbs nico comes back to us at 24 we grab pickens there at 25 tootin comes off the board we'll see what stinking knob does here i mean if he doesn't i mean swift looks pretty good at this price here if he falls um otherwise you got the receivers you got montgomery yeah see what stinking stinking no badge okay that's who it is here uh they go swift unfortunately we were talking about montgomery before uh jmo's kind of a fun one with gibbs who do you like in this range yeah uh let's do jmo with gibbs i like that it's it's him or adams for me i think at wide receiver um yeah man evans limo limping off practice again today it doesn't sound like serious but the guy can't say healthy if we're gonna go running back here i would actually pull up judarian price um okay wow yeah okay yeah uh talk to me yeah i think let's go price here just to have the conversation i'm not sure i would normally um do this in a draft but yeah i think he's like extremely undervalued um he's actually i've been looking at main event uh adp which i think is interesting because it's like kind of a little bit more reactive to news and yesterday uh he was at like pick 60 by adp and he jumped all the way up to like pick 50 uh in the last day of drafts because of the news that he was resting the rest of the preseason basically seattle uh wants to put him on ice they've seen enough from him they want to rest him i think there's a chance like he's in line for a much bigger role than people are expecting and just like zooming all the way out like it's a first round running back talent in a really good situation in my opinion i know charbonnet is there but charbonnet is coming off an acl tear besides that it's guys like george holani emmanuel wilson like basically nothing from a talent perspective and it's just like i can't remember a first round running back get it in like a good situation getting as little buzz as judarian price and i know the the talent upside is like a huge unknown backup running back to jeremiah love like there's huge error bars on his talent profile but like man i just think the situation and the opportunity is like very good and what if he is like living up to that first round running back talent like i think it could be a huge smash this season yeah no i'm with you i i'm curious though like do you have him like over bucky over montgomery it sounds like you'd have him over at least um i guess montgomery is like the one who's been anchored there you get the report over the weekend about the 50 50 thing i was kind of talking that through with levitan is that kind of contributing to being down on these other guys more so yeah i do so when i said like i wouldn't do this normally i'd actually do have this is my next highest ranked running back for sure i would have him over bucky montgomery judkins i normally would probably take like mclaurin or davante there like take a wide receiver but i know we kind of needed a running back there to some degree you know we only had one through four so i think it made sense um yeah i i do like him like the montgomery thing i i do kind of buy a little bit like i was kind of pretending woody marks didn't exist because of how bad he was last season but they trusted him in such a huge role i think him like playing well in the preseason means just like a little bit and there has been a lot of reporting that they they have a role carved out for for mark so i do think you should knock montgomery like a little bit on the news and again yeah like just just upside of like the team situation and the individual talent i think just skews towards towards price in this group for me one thing that i think is really important is that you i think i was talking through in my first draft um with mike washington marshall lloyd jonah coleman i was like i really like some of the range of the draft for running backs that i used to hate you know like pick 135 155 so i had kind of wished my first draft i was pretty running back heavy early and then i couldn't take advantage of some of those values so getting our three wide receivers up top here and i think we could have easily pulled off a four wide receiver build as well if we wanted but a decent amount of flexibility here now gib nico pickens uh jameson williams price we're about to pick here um we have a bunch of the elite quarterbacks all here um jayden rarely falling back although stinking no badge might just keep scooping up all this value i'm hoping he goes may here because i like jayden a little bit more let's see um they go jayden yeah really burning the clock on us here too um i think we do a quarterback i think i would do trick may i don't know something else about tp no i'm good with may on this but i do like so much naked jayden daniels like getting some may uh i think makes sense can you scroll down to like the wide receivers and running backs that are around after this yeah so you got uh by adp it's like brooks pollard reed lemon downs um yeah okay um i'd go probably read or downs maybe read um yeah it's a tricky it's a tricky spot there's not honestly like if someone doesn't fall there i i do struggle sometimes with this like early seventh round spot it does feel like a bit of a tear break at wide receiver has happened same at running back um but yeah read i think um makes sense here and it was funny because like and i report chuba hubbard uh remains on track to be ready week one you've been on record that you find brooks to be very overvalued here yeah i i really do i mean maybe i'll have egg on my face but it's it seems like we just like as a community like want jonathan brooks to be a thing so badly that like the chuba hubbard hamstring injury i think has been relatively similar magnitude to a lot of injuries that people are not really reacting to like the buka turf toe injury uh the manung guy sprained knee like we've had all these other like similar magnitude week-to-week injuries that have moved players a little bit and chuba hubbard it's like oh hamstring injury let's knock him from like 70 to 115 because like we so badly like are talking ourselves into jonathan brooks being a thing and and i'm just yeah it could it could work out um it just seems like very pricey to me for a guy that has six career nfl carries multiple acl tears is not in a great team situation i it's it's one i'm i'm gonna be out on and if if he's such a good player that he uh you know shoves it down my throat then then good for him i'd love to see it you know it'd be a great comeback story for him for sure but uh it doesn't sound like you'd love to see it sam based on everything you just said it sounds like you would actually i would actually hate it you have to say that like you know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know but you do seem like a nice guy yeah but um uh some weird one weird one in here jalen hurts falls to 83 all the way back to the 11 hole unstacked there some other uh price checks in this range brooks did go right after we took reed at 74 uh but yeah no back to the may thing i i mean one of the things that was happening a lot this summer was middle around six didn't like the receivers i was pulling up romandre then i'm just like jayden daniels every time but then i think someone brought it up in the chat of like how much more confident are you and jayden daniels compared to drake may to always make that move with daniels and not do it as much with may so in spots like this where daniel is off the board and it really cleared out i mean i like getting may where we did yeah i i think i view it very similar i definitely prefer daniels but uh yeah running back water seer falls off a cliff i think um it is interesting to think about how good may was last season with a very weak supporting cast and some some major upgrades this year um let's see here i do like the tight ends uh i like matthew golden if we want to double down on green bay i like that yep running back got bill and dowdle both went um i think you can make the case on the flip side that chuba is a decent value um but he's been sliding even further do you want me to put golden in the queue for a sec yeah yeah yeah i guess like what like i think from purely from like a player value i would do like golden pits i do wonder structurally if we'll feel two box out at running back and should go um man these guys are it's it's what it's probably yeah i mean dobbins or mason i think are fine here yeah um man let's let's go let's let's try to let's try to unbury at running back later um i think we can i mean yeah we're definitely light um we'll have to be aggressive in this pocket the only other kind of complicating factor is if love comes around to 120 we obviously have to take him um yeah but i think with stroud with nico late that gives us an out um for a late quarterback that we can play so So, yeah, no, I'm down to push it here with kind of just Gibbs and Price and see what we can pull off yeah especially because like at least early season uh you know i guess if you if you are playing like the anti-price case it's like you know sharps comes back and makes it a 50 50 split or whatever but at least early season uh should be like pretty solid for running back two points so i don't mind with those two guys like a bit more of a fragile running back build um yeah yeah go ahead what were you gonna say oh no i was just gonna say the chat was mentioning i saw this too uh trevion henderson left monday's practice with a right leg slash ankle injury so no clue the severity there but considering i mean there's like a handful of players that you can objectively say have had like a bad camp or preseason based on just like the reporting and i feel like i haven't heard one nice thing about trevion henderson said like all summer yeah that's funny but it's it's yeah it's a bummer i i have like mixed him in a little bit as he's fallen but yeah anyways okay so i just i just saw that changing subject i saw underdog tweeted out an hour ago pete uh it doesn't specify what contest but it says yesterday the latest ashton genti was selected in one of our draft contests was 121st overall um yeah robert in the chat said it was a little dalmatian at a dollar contest so okay okay that's funny that it was the lowest stakes contest where he fell the furthest should be like yeah you know it is funny but i feel like that plays out um you know i think there's you know we've had puppy drafts where the adp is sharper like the volume grinders are the ones piling in those cheap ones they're the ones like most on top of the news the same thing happens on draft kings too right where it's like you know the some of the cheaper contests like the nine dollar slant like the ownership's always more in those than it is even the higher dollar ones where you have more whales just splashing around so it is funny but i think the grinders are the ones trying to capitalize on on news the most yeah yeah that makes sense all right so here's the squad so far one two five one we started with gibbs come back with three wide receivers nico pickens and jameson williams we grabbed jadarian price then drake may we double tap green bay receivers here jayden reed and matthew golden then we go kyle pitts um both quarterbacks here jordan love and goth are here and then uh i'm gonna let stink and no badge do as usual uh sniping here first this would actually be a team where chris rodriguez would make a decent amount of sense as well yep yep i think it's i think it's straightforward i think you laid it out well i think it's chris rodriguez and uh the quarterback can we just check the bye weeks quickly at the running back uh oh here i'm gonna do rodriguez and rodriguez first because love does have the same bye week is may but i don't know if we can we can afford to pass on it with that i think we could grab um yeah i'm trying to think is there should we you think we'll be able to take care of week 11 by at quarterback i i think so it's it's a value on love we have them double stacked um yeah i think we'll i i like going like three quarterback on these type of teams anyways i think we'll be able to take care of week 11 by at quarterback uh i guess thinking like construction wise we took five wide receivers pretty early we can probably finish with like just seven and two of them being like super late at this point so we can i think just hammer like running back and and quarterback and figure it out yeah um it'll be a little weird structurally but i think we can make it work yeah i think we can too it's funny because 11 falls into that weird range of you know some of the guys where it's like okay you take like a jacoby actually should there's probably a good one in that there's just no fucking way to sean watson is the quarterback of this team week 11 there's just no way but i think no i think i think it's brown's week 11 by am i wrong about that is it really yeah yeah i think you're right you're right it is there you go so that doesn't help us but i have been liking the thing i mean i did read it wrong a little bit uh maybe overreacted to the sean interview but i did read it wrong but i did read it wrong but i did read it wrong but i did read it wrong but i did read it wrong but i'm with like it does feel like this is the most lame duck starting quarterback like of all time it's just that like they couldn't go the other direction of starting with shitter and then going to the sean because that would be just even more disastrous so this is the way this is the way i think to give the fan base like some hope mid-season when they make the switch it also like probably helps like preserve munkin's job a little bit of like for net into next season being able to blame you know a slow start on deshaun watson and and all of that i think it's like a little bit of political maneuvering um for for deshaun but net he his preseason for i mean whatever like judge 15 snaps of preseason at your own peril for making projections but it was pitiful against backups like complete duck passes not being able to read it's what we saw two years ago and he's two achilles tears uh worse from what he was two years ago like it's it's just so over for deshaun so i do think the last round should their pick is it's fine and then and then crying about getting booed as like what do you like it'd be it'd be one thing if he went like you know 200 with four tds in the preseason game and they're still booing him he's like dude i just bought i was like no you fucking suck like what do you want me to cheer for yeah it's just so absurd um price check on mike washington i was going to be interested in him if he came back to uh 144 he goes 137 see this is why i can't stream because then i was like jonah coleman i'm interested in he goes at 130 um so we'll see what we can cook up here at running back um but we have the two quarterbacks the three running backs five wide receivers one tight end here and then is a question mark here right oh he just got strapped off so uh whatever so you could do the malik willis or i think with this build if we can find some running backs we like i think we push the qb3 thing because it really is just to cover that by week and see if we can get another value you know who would be a good one like mendoza a week third yeah uh he's a week 13 by he'll be starting by week 11 um i was gonna put marshall lloyd in the queue here for sure any other running do you want to do a spears here do you want to be more patient man it's spears or willis i do like willis value i do like willis um i am kind of with you if there was a running back that was screaming out i would do it but i think we take i think we take the value in willis what do you think about that i'm fine with it yeah yeah i'm with you if there was another guy there i mean spears i think spears was spears would have been a good but like totally fine pick but um i really think malik will i think i'm like a maybe not on an island but i know there's like a lot of people who are attributing like really high like bench risk to to malik willis and yeah i'm just like not not really buying that that too much i get he could completely face plant but you know they did commit to him more money than like say justin fields got last year the alternative is like at least with justin fields last year the alternative was like a competent tyrod taylor as a backup quarterback um the alternative for miami is like quinn ewers uh i'm not sure that is yeah a direction the coach is gonna go so i feel pretty good about malik willis just rushing a bunch and if he stays healthy making it through all 17 games no i i think i think it was a good pick there uh yeah i'm not too i mean if he's not playing it's probably gonna be because he got hurt running the ball yeah um yeah i think the one pick in is just if knowing the the running back run although man like getting rodriguez and lloyd on a love team both those feel good uh i guess we can look back and be like should we have pulled up again well dobbins mason over pits and then just gone a crank purple late team yeah uh chat saying willis at 145 is a no-brainer i i i think it was i don't say it's a no-brainer i i do think we could have made the case for a guy like spears there uh but yeah i mean when we have two really good quarterbacks in may and love and the thesis is kind of just covering a bye week i'm not opposed to pushing it more but again if we're running back we're pulling up if we think about the 2v2s of doing malik willis and mendoza uh or sorry mendoza and like spears there versus malik willis and whatever backup running back we take you probably start to like the malik willis side even more so i get it yep and willis yeah no go ahead uh no i was just gonna say and like i get we're trying to cover a bye but like willis profiles as someone versus mendoza who just like at the start of the season could be giving us like 28 point games like week three week four week whatever that mendoza is not going to give us so like there's some real value in that um for sure spears we wanted to talk about spears oh well someone said spears over lloyd i think they offer completely different things and because we were running back hungry both of them made sense on our team i think lloyd on a jordan love team just makes way too much sense but if we didn't have him and you are trying to just get some standalone value because you've been I think Spears is probably a better bet to, you know, catch three to four balls, give you, you know, seven to eight points off the rip. But if you're trying to find like the league winning smash, which I think we're trying to do here when we're pretty thin at running back, I mean, Lloyd is undeniably the bigger swing at the position. Yep. Uh, I am spooked on the Titans in general. Uh, yeah, let's, let's figure out what we're going to do here. Um, Tracy is off the board for me. Yeah. So this would be like, you reach to pull up one of these handcuffs here, which we should probably do. Um, at tight end, um, you could do like a Sadiq or Dulcich. Dulcich obviously stacks. Um, we could also just say, Hey, let's be patient here and grab, you know, an 80 Mitchell, a Pat Bryant type. Uh-huh. Yeah. Um, Ray, Ray Davis is probably the running back. I'd go here. You want to start with him? I know it's a bit of a pull up, but, um, let's grab him. Yeah, I think that's fine. And then, yeah. Uh, who are the tight ends again? Uh, tight ends would be, uh, we have Barner, Sadiq, Dulcich is the one who stacks if you want to go that direction. Um, probably not Barner with week 11. Yeah, let's go Dulcich. Let's go Dulcich. All right. We'll grab Dulcich here. Uh, so yeah, we pull up Ray Davis. This is one of those spots too, where when you're on, you know, either the front side or the backside of the board, it's, it's hard to play the positional runs. It is. Yeah. I'm also kind of like not worried about ADP too much here. I think the, the Ray Davis thing that's interesting and maybe a little under the radar is Todd Johnson is injured right now. Um, basically no reporting on like severity. It's, you know, the running back three on the bills. Nobody else cares about that besides fantasy sickos. But, uh, I think, oh yeah, exactly. I mean, it's a great point. The whole reason Ray Davis is ADP is where it is, where it started at the beginning of the year is because of Ty Johnson. And it's like, all right, man, like I don't want to have the RB three or a guy who's going to, even if he inherits work is going to lose high value touches to a guy like Ty Johnson. You remove that. And all of a sudden. It becomes a screaming pick. I guess the whole question is, is I think the thing that's exciting about Ray Davis is his skillset is he can do it all. He can be a goal line back. He can catch passes and you have the chance that he could ice someone like Ty Johnson in the event that he gets a shot. I guess the bear case would be James Cook stays healthy and, or, and then Ty Johnson gets healthy again. And then we're just back to where we started in the contingent play. Can't even hit once Ty Johnson is back being healthy. Yeah. It's like, I also just, the thing with like taking some of these running backs on really good teams is that you just have some outs for like random spike weeks that you don't get on terrible teams. Like the bills can be completely blowing out the jets or the dolphins in a random week. And they just say, Hey, James Cook, like we need you for the playoffs. We're not loading you up with 25 touches this game. Like Ray Davis gets the whole fourth quarter. Right. And I just think there's things like that where. You can run into some random spike weeks with Ray Davis, like, like corn is maybe kind of the example of that last season. He was drafted super late. He, I think is a much better talent than Ray Davis, but he got big run in games where the Rams were up big and had random spike weeks, even though he was the clear running back to all season. So yeah, I do like Davis in this range. Okay. We've caught up a little bit at running back here. Yeah. What are you, what are you thinking structurally to kind of close this out? Yeah. I mean, we, I feel like we always play the hits with the three, five, seven, three. That's maybe where we're headed. I could potentially see like a three, six, six, three. Does the math add up on that? Yeah. Yeah. The one guy that I do like now and Levitan took him in the draft we just did, but Kalen Black. Yeah. He's my favorite target here too, but I do. I do kind of think we go tight end wide receiver and then maybe a black goes, Oh no, black doesn't go. um uh sadiq went yeah yeah jalen noel has been the other guy if we wanted to double up with houston wide receivers um can we go to tight ends real quick sorry yeah uh gunner helm pat fryer move can we take uh fryer muse did i get it did i get it he's back nimble okay nice we got friday uh as our third tight end so yeah i have caitlyn black jalen noel i almost think i'd like what do you want you want to go two wide receivers i kind of want to go two wide receivers uh i don't really like noel to be honest okay um can we can we do uh ridley i know it's boring but um wow that was some of my best q word um yeah sorry i didn't give you much much notice there but um we got it in we got it we got it in ridley you got it and you can draft uh the titans water receiver three in the 17th round you just you got to do it i i i can explain the noel thing a little bit i mean i could be wrong on noel i know i know etr is pretty high on him and obviously you know those guys are great at what they do i i do think like his his rookie year and his like talent profile is like getting a little bit overrated he was at 1.4 yards for outrun 17 percent target throughout run last year and in the playoff game when they were down nico collins i think it was actually two games in the playoffs for their down nico collins he was like completely iced by xavier hutchinson when he was healthy his playing time actually like declined over the course of season rather than increased and that always spooks me a little bit he's also like been on the nfi list he had a hamstring injury he hasn't really had a chance to get established in camp i know the tank dell stuff is like also extremely bearish so there is an opportunity for him i just think like it's uh uh you know they brought in all these veterans i think the case on booty trade could still be coming i actually think xavier hutchinson is just like pretty gonna be pretty far ahead of him uh to start the season at least so um yeah it's it's not it's not my favorite pick yeah i think yeah my case for it is just the tank stuff i think is really ominous and i think he's just gonna be out on the field right away and then we had nico so i didn't mind kind of doubling up on texans that said you know this yeah my case for it is just the tank stuff i think is really ominous and i think he's just gonna be out on the field right away and then we had nico so i didn't mind kind of doubling up on texans that said you know this dynamic happens where you have the five wide receivers early ridley actually ends up being a good pick on those kind of builds where you're actually a lot lighter than you think and i think sometimes there's the counterintuitive thing of like oh you take the big upside swing on that but it's actually not having the it's the depth where i'm like i want more darts at the breakout we just need to make sure that this team has enough bodies early on so i think it was smart to push us to um seven wide receivers instead of the other yeah uh i am bummed to see booty go because like as a last pick with may i think makes a decent amount of sense yeah i agree and i do i did like the black call like on i'm taking a lot of black right now i just felt like the seven wide receivers was like slightly better um so the other reason i kind of like ridley is because i kind of do like chris bell as the last round pick here and like getting some stable early season production makes that a little bit better um man it's like pretty ugly here uh judy i guess cooper cop i guess we can put in the queue uh yeah do you do you have guys that are um i take cup just go i think he just went uh yeah or no i spell i spelled cup wrong jesus um yeah so we're like yeah talk to me about bell i haven't i haven't taken him a while i mean definitely a late season play but set to practice without limitations that that's a blur for two hours ago that seems good yeah and there's um like i think people are like forgetting that the season is still like three weeks away it's like not that obviously he's gonna be behind uh coming in so late but he has like a month before the season now to to establish himself a little bit uh we have we have malik willis um yeah that that i think it's like he's gonna be behind uh coming in so late but he has like a month before the season now to to establish himself a little bit uh we have we have malik willis um yeah that i think he's gonna be um yeah that i think he's gonna be behind uh coming in so late but he has like a month before the season now to to establish himself a little bit uh we have we have we have malik willis um yeah that i think he's gonna be um yeah that i think he's gonna be um yeah that i completely i completely forgot about um yeah that i completely i completely forgot about the malik willis angle yeah let's let's the malik willis angle yeah let's let's the malik willis angle yeah let's let's do chris bell do chris bell do chris bell yeah yeah i think he's i think there's just yeah yeah i think he's i think there's just yeah yeah i think he's i think there's just like i mean there's there's so little talent like i mean there's there's so little talent like i mean there's there's so little talent in this wide receiver room that people are in this wide receiver room that people are in this wide receiver room that people are talking about caleb douglas being like talking about caleb douglas being like talking about caleb douglas being like locked in as a full-time receiver now locked in as a full-time receiver now locked in as a full-time receiver now and and and i think his prospect profile was like i think his prospect profile was like i think his prospect profile was like much less intriguing than bells much less intriguing than bells much less intriguing than bells so yeah it's just a bit of a talent so yeah it's just a bit of a talent so yeah it's just a bit of a talent ambiguous situation i i do kind of ambiguous situation i i do kind of ambiguous situation i i do kind of uh like the like uh like the like uh like the like miami for dirt cheap uh that we got miami for dirt cheap uh that we got miami for dirt cheap uh that we got willis bell and dulcich with like if willis bell and dulcich with like if that hits in one or two weeks down the that hits in one or two weeks down the that hits in one or two weeks down the stretch like that could be some some stretch like that could be some some stretch like that could be some some really nice leverage with how cheap really nice leverage with how cheap really nice leverage with how cheap cheaply we got those guys cheaply we got those guys cheaply we got those guys all right the team is in the books all right the team is in the books all right the team is in the books three five seven three per usual that's three five seven three per usual that's three five seven three per usual that's our mo let's do this positionally here our mo let's do this positionally here our mo let's do this positionally here drake may jordan love and then we're drake may jordan love and then we're drake may jordan love and then we're like oh two week 11 buys malik willis like oh two week 11 buys malik willis like oh two week 11 buys malik willis come on down at pick 145 played it a come on down at pick 145 played it a come on down at pick 145 played it a little thin at running back but little thin at running back but little thin at running back but certainly can make this room work with certainly can make this room work with certainly can make this room work with gibb price rodriguez lloyd and ray davis wide receiver nico george pickens jameson williams jane reed matthew golden calvin ridley and chris bell three tight ends here kyle pitts dulcich fryer muth some nice miami stacking green bay we go naked may um clear to see how this team works it's basically like do you get the legendary season from gibbs and you know price price hits like if that works out you're you're gonna be fine but how do you feel we did with this one yeah i like this team a lot it's a lot of like uh conviction plays i have like from a from a player perspective so that's fun i think um yeah structurally like maybe a little bit uh thin at running back compared to how i like to play it but you can definitely see how it still works i think chris rodriguez is really undervalued right now i still think lloyd is undervalued with him clearly looking like the the handball player i think he's really undervalued with him clearly looking like the the handball we weren't taking him at pick 97 there yeah um then you start to look at hunter henry he goes 158 this is when i mean i guess you could have taken him at 145 over willis but not really a priority and then what it's booty like there's not actually that much to do stacking wise with drake may no there's not and i think booty is like 50 50 to be gone so even that one is like i'm not i'm not even sure what team you're drafting booty on at this point and then there's lower upside guys like pop douglas that maybe run some routes but he's not really been a target of mine so yeah i don't think we we didn't really have chances uh to to take any stacks um an update on the the henderson stuff here got the twitter docs uh weighing in jeff mueller says uh trevion henderson injury concern sounds like he slipped hopefully just a mild inversion sprain or something if it's ankle related weight loss waiting on news but keep buying remandre stevenson um that's been kind of my takeaway even without henderson issues he's one too where uh i think just an absolute smash anytime in the middle of round six you get him here at pick 69 that looks nice to me yeah curious like thought experiment if trevion i know that's this is like not the case his injury is not that serious but just like from a contingent we're a prayer circle for trevion henderson yeah yeah if they're a prayer circle for trevion henderson and we there's a chance he was he was out for the year let's say for some reason he has a season-ending injury like what is remandre's like value as a clear starting running back in basketball i think it would be like two three turn right or is that too too aggressive like in that in that scenario i mean maybe i was gonna slot him in here in this like mid-fourth i mean i guess it's like it's the swift bet without right yeah and it's just like i don't know i feel like am i remembering this wrong i feel like we drafted i guess this was like remandre's second or third year we he was a guy we drafted at like the two three turn at one point in his career and that was on like some some mac jones teams that were not that exciting so giovante is probably the upside comp player like none of us are expecting any big plays out of giovante it's it's just a touchdown expect expectation bet but i think man remandre's got to be better than giovante as a pass catcher oh yeah i think remandre is like so yeah i think he's so underrated as a pass catcher i guess because he's like like kind of looks like fat and he's like big on the field i guess is the reason people don't like him as a pass catcher but he gets more like running back air yards downfield targets than anybody besides cmc gibbs i'm sure i'm forgetting a chain hn uh like he gets he has an interesting receiving profile that i think people people sleep on so yeah yeah we'll see no we'll see on trevion yeah yeah we'll see on that one i mean i keep thinking the remandre adp was going to move up um throughout this kind of i don't know pre-season period and it happens but this might be finally the impetus that you see fifth round remandre uh the rest of the way out i i assume we're headed there unless this henderson thing ends up becoming a non-story but otherwise i think we're i think you're going to start seeing him go on the fifth pretty consistently yeah i agree um let's see some price checks on other buzzy guys in here i haven't had where haven't clocked jacoby lane today he goes 148 uh actually flipped denzel boston which i don't necessarily think is um unjustified cyrus allen goes at 156 are there any of these other guys guys we didn't get in this draft that are priority targets for you you're trying to catch up on your exposures now that things have broken their way in terms sorry i was uh multitasking for a second in terms of late round targets just like they're guys you're going into drafts and you're like whether they were someone i wasn't drafting early this off season or i just feel underweight are there any guys you're trying to build up positions on here down the down the home stretch yeah i think casey concepcion is a guy who i was always taking but i'm really excited about now i don't think like anything changed i think i just like kind of understood how he hits a little bit more where i think he's a guy that even in a bad offense they're gonna scheme a lot of touches for a lot of jet sweeps reverses screen screen plays and that not to say he's like a gimmicky player i just think that's kind of like lower on all browns giving them the deshaun watson tax tax whatever now i'm just a little bit more optimistic that schiller sanders can lead a competent version of this offense at some point during the season and even if he can't i think there's like ppr scam type appeal with concepcion like i guess in my head right like there is a four round gap between carnell tate and casey concepcion and i think that is just way too high like these guys are both on really bad offenses with huge question marks a quarterback both players have like somewhat legitimate target competition wandale robinson and calvin ridley harold fannin and um denzel boston like it's kind of similar like situations and i think you get like a huge discount on concepcion relative to tate so yeah he's a guy i've been clicking if he's available in the hundreds and i need a wide receiver i'm taking him like every single every single time yup yeah he went 107 here i took him in my first solo draft him him and worthy are guys i've been kind of clicking in this range here what about uh on any of the other kind of buzzy wide receivers are you doing uh cyrus allen uh is he part of your plans i was taking a lot of him i thought he was like a really fun like 16th to 18th round pick but i might miss the cyrus allen train but where is he i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know where he seems to go now i think jacoby lane is a guy i'm willing to chase a little bit higher up uh versus allen i have been taking him especially on lamar teams around pick 150 um yeah trying to think through the other buzzy guys i think you know we we should do we should um really uh pat ourselves on the back for some of our early stripling shares i mean i feel like we're dribbling in so many of our uh our first drafts i think our first draft is going to be the first draft ever had jacoby lane on it and that was when everyone's like oh you got you got to take elijah sarat he's like he looks better in the spreadsheets no you you take jacoby lane at pick 212 and concepcion at 116 and lane at 212 there you go zay at 44 i mean this team this team is incredible don't look at tony pollard at pick 68 but besides that you know you can't get clv on uh on all of them there that was dude that's so funny too because i remember talking that through with you because i everyone went in to bbm being like tony pollard's a value from his opening adp it was like 110 and then we just took him out because we were we were shut out at running back yeah let's see this team is this seems fun though here's a drake may herbert team we drafted henry jacobs pollard tracy sampson can i find stripling on one of these teams we were doing we did back-to-back two tight end teams with laporta a laporta gadston team that might be that may be a rough scene there um that's a couple zero oh sf this is gonna here's the sf sf with no stripling what were we doing what were we doing you have pat bryant boston at 162 um jt chase brown breeze hall jordan mason sean tucker i want to find where our stripling era was yeah we had some stripling 74. all right well still at 115 is aged pretty oh there's a mike washington 198 that's pretty good there's got to be a stribling team in here somewhere where do you think like uh what's your price for mike washington now again with i still hangs in the balance uh 140s ish i think like right where spears woody marks uh they're stribling um with christian kirk dude how many draft did we take laporte on do we have like 80 combined exposure on laporta we started hot on laporta i do remember that um i like this double minnesota tap at uh we took jones at 117 and mason at 124 yeah but yeah no mike mike washington i think is i mean i i think his pre-season performance and usage has indicated he's the clear running back too and now you have outs to him getting one two three four starts at the beginning of the season i mean that's not most likely that he's gonna get four but it's like range of outcomes wise and yeah you're taking you're still taking him next to like a lot of handcuffs who have zero role to start the season so i think you pretty quickly can move him up to that 140 range do you what do you think about him no yeah i'm right there with you uh i i think he's uh he's a slam dunk value there because i my take on it is you're kind of free rolling the severity of the gentee injury because the whole thing was like if you have clarity on him being the rb2 that's a fair price for any of these backups i mean we were fucking taking isaiah pacheco there by we i mean the collective we you can make the case that that's where the contingent value goes and now you free roll six eight weeks however long gentees out of like if you get that kind of standalone value off the rip uh from him i mean he's a he's a giga smash yep 100 i'm not liking this exercise of actually tabbing through our teams i'm like jayden higgins zero yeah it's not there's a lot of ricky pierce all zero maybe we didn't take as much as i thought i i got a lot of stripling on my own account um sorry i was probably diversifying my exposure drafting with you pete apologies that's right well that's what chad joked earlier in the chat that the new bit isn't diversifying your exposure it's taking players as the means to a new conversation topic i i wouldn't normally take jadarian price here but we should have the jadarian price conversation yeah i'm sure you appreciate people doing that on your your own account uh when people fact check you on you know best ball palantir at the end of the season uh another sam laporta team dude he's on every team yeah i just was really trying to i think we have more debo uh we did do we've done a ton of niner stuff um here here you go this team kind of cooked it's a herbert nix it has barkley kenneth walker price keaton mitchell lad waddle oh i guess tyson sutton debo trey harris jeremy pat bryant kittle kincaid i like that yeah we can survive the tyson thing on this team that's it's gonna be fun yeah yeah i where where's your price for him or where you start to get interested in him again um this one i i said like a hundred and 10 ish 120 ish i think like the market hasn't fallen that far in him yet yeah 113 in the draft we just did i think he's one of the more like just throwing out a number for him doesn't really describe how you should approach drafting him to be honest like it really depends on what players you've taken so far what wide receivers you've taken so far i think there are ways to like combine him with like keenan allen yeah or combine him with devon valet and he's like a lot more attractive right combining him with some of those early season production guys but if you take a bunch of rookies already early on then he might have to be off your board right so it's it's a very very situationally dependent on whether you should take him in my opinion yeah yep um maurice steen says i guess the winner will be drafting in late august this year i honestly think it's the usual push pull right it's like we tap through those teams and we're going to be drafting in late august this year i honestly think it's the usual push pull right it's like we tap through those teams and we're going to be drafting in late august this year i honestly think it's the usual push pull right it's like we tap through those teams you know you'll have a higgins you'll have a pierce all you'll have a two tight end room with a tight end like gadston who doesn't look strong enough but then that is also offset by having one two three rounds of clv on some important players late draft teams they're not going to have the zeros uh they're going to have a little bit more information but they're also not going to have as many you know big clv hits as many chances at super teams kind of really tough combos to get so i don't know i i still don't think we've had an instigating event that makes me think definitively drafting earlier drafting late um has like a massive advantage i think it always tilts toward late as having a general advantage but i don't see anything that's extreme this year compared to other years yep i agree and every you like look like looking through those old those old teams is a reminder that like on almost every team you're gonna have a couple picks that look really good and you're gonna have one or two picks that look really bad and then if you looked at like everyone's roster in the draft board that you did a lot of teams would have that same situation so it's a jordan tyson i pick 70 might look like whatever the end of the world for a team but when you know i don't think it's like that big of a deal to be honest yeah um it's obviously not ideal but yeah um oh there's one one guy i had a question on um oh the one guy that we didn't hit on omar cooper what do you think about him now he's been i was like so in on him and then the news that he was behind isaiah williams was like that is that sucks like don't want to go into the season with like 30 percent exposure of him but then it kind of boom around boomerang back which is maybe predictable that he's back ahead of isaiah williams so i kind of want to be hammering him again but it is like kind of like jillian polk uh david laguette vibes right where it's just like the bet on the draft capital that isn't gonna work out i don't know what do you think about omar cooper yeah man that's it's actually funny because i've been trying to sever my omar cooper takes between best ball in managed where i'm trying i think he's a huge managed target because the swing is still really big and if he sucks you cut him but if like there's a guy going after 150 160 that could actually amount to like an every week starter it's probably a guy with omar cooper i don't know if he's going with omar cooper's prospect profile but because i was hammering him so much early on and because the risk of him being a nothing is pretty high and you have guys like jacoby lane cyrus allen the dolphins receivers anyone in that mold i'm like i don't know man i i think i just from an exposure standpoint because i had such a bag of him that i've been content letting him go um so yeah i'm gonna be underweight down the stretch but it's hard to look at price 180 here you mentioned the keenan allen as a chaperone with jordan tyson like keenan allen with omar cooper like i very easily see how that works out yeah yep i think that's i'm kind of similar where i'm still taking him a little bit but i i do think like it's ultimately not a guy i want to have like some mega stand on which i was trending towards i'll still end up being above weight on him for sure but yeah i think the managed first uh redraft is a good take there and it is it's like it basically compounds the issue we've talked about all off season with like jets and browns and these values but specifically with the jets it's like okay like breeze hall like garrett wilson like omar cooper like sadiq oh and guess what i like ad mitchell how is this all gonna work out unless gino like has a top eight quarterback year now you get the drumbeat of like ad mitchell's had this awesome camp awesome rapport and then i still like sadiq like i think sadiq at the tight end position is an awesome pick and i'm just like how is this all gonna work out it was already a tight needle to thread with multiple of these guys hitting and now it's just further complicated by how clearly behind omar cooper is in this pecking order yeah yep uh all right dude let people know what you got going on uh these days uh we still got some that's fair streams coming up yes we have that's fair shifting to wednesday this week uh so we'll be on for that i think also other things coming up i'll be streaming on davis's channel on wednesday i believe right before that's fair stream so i think it'll be 4 30 p.m eastern on davis's channel then 5 30 p.m eastern on pat's channel on wednesday and other than that yeah we got our main event i know you've talked about this before but the live stream will be on wednesday the 3rd in september if i'm not mistaken yep uh so really really pumped for that one um but yeah other than that yeah that'll be uh i have the schedule pulled up here for the audio listeners that september 3rd that's going to be an og adp chasing main event stream so pat sam and davis that'll be a ton of fun and then just to catch you guys up uh tomorrow the current adp chasing crew is going to draft at 7 p.m eastern on thursday this week we'll be drafting with crack rock the following or a week from today on monday the new look stat chasing crew is doing a main event and then we'll close things out on tuesday the 8th over on the ship chasing channel and i believe we're gonna squeeze in uh another regular show or two of non-drafting so make sure you guys are subscribed over there for all of those main event drafts and uh sam good time as always and without further ado i'm not gonna forget the intro for pat corain scuba corain patty millions peacock pat pat corain on the ones and twos are you kidding me all right pat corain i just jumped us in a best ball mania draft how are we doing here doing good how you doing doing good although i am gonna have to go to the bathroom here in a second too much coffee this morning uh how have you been reacting in the uh genti podcast i'm gonna have to go to the bathroom here in a second too much coffee this morning in the uh genti podcast i'm gonna have to go to the bathroom here in a second too much coffee post-genti prayer circle era of fantasy football here yes so i mean it was uh i was out yesterday that we were took vivian to uh our friend's pool and so we're you know that we had some snacks going nice little sunday and then i saw the genti went down and um you know the guys had already updated the sidekick and everything so that was awesome and then uh i was like i think we need to update mike washington like we did like half an hour ago like all right yeah and uh so yeah i was on the clock in a ton of slow drafts and i took some mike washington uh in those kind of ranges where it where it made sense um but you know fairly late and uh and then was just hoping we'd get good news on genti which we did so pretty psyched about you know this ankle sprain being obviously you know the concern was uh unclear if he's gonna like have a high ankle sprain a low ankle sprain he'll miss any time the severity all that's still up in the air so it's still murky but it's not it's just really nice that it's not you know a massive season ending or you know completely season altering injury uh you want to go puka here at yeah or i do okay let's grab puka here to start this is what bbm draft someone is asking me the uh my bbm drafting schedule i think i'm just gonna keep plucking away at like eight to ten a week on stream and then depending on fill rate or whatever i'll probably do some stream uh i don't know a few days before the season starts to uh crank out whatever is remaining where are you at on your uh your final draft i'm like 35 left to go on bbm still have quite a bit more than that left to go on the dk flagship probably like twice as many i think i i think i still like 75 ish and um yeah i'll probably do some five for fives this week some uh big dogs full but i got three slows going there uh so yeah i'm i mean i am currently in almost 600 slow drafts so i'm really hoping that we can get that to something reasonable by the time four hour clocks hit i know i'm gonna live through the four hour clocks that's i made peace with that but i just don't want it to be overwhelming when we hit four hours so yes uh go easy cards matthew berry for pete's 150th bbm draft i think i called in my one matthew berry favor uh this off season with this so you think you can tout finale i don't think i'll make him suffer through a bbm draft with me but yeah we'll make sure we get some guests for that uh pat i'm gonna run to the restroom you want to answer this question for copy paste late on where you guys now have genti yeah so what we have in for genti he was popping up is is a pick in kind of the late second round range um and that's all gonna be you know it's gonna be something we revisit later today and you know as we dial in exactly what the injury is i think one thing for genti i've got i'm writing up my legendary running back scenarios now and it did it did strike me that like his outcomes are like kind of binary where his upside i think really depends on him developing his ability to do what he wants to do and i think that's going to be something that's going to be really interesting and i think it's going to be something that's going to be really interesting and i think it's going to be something that's going to be really interesting into a real receiving workhorse in a way that i think is both realistic but also like realistically doesn't happen and i was already a little concerned about the floor given that they seem to like mike washington mixing in some at least and then the team's not going to be very good it probably won't be a ton of play volume you got a rookie quarterback down the stretch who could really struggle potentially but they're still they're not going to bench him so the floor on genti was low i think it gets lower now um and then you have guys in the second round oh wow yeah we we ripped a ripped around fast you want to go bowers with uh yeah yeah um but yeah i think you have lots and lots of good picks in the second round so uh travis etn i would not say generally is one of those but um you know typically we're looking at real opportunity cost in the second round uh and so yeah him falling down to the late second is probably right right now until we know if but if it's like a low ankle sprain then it's probably more like the 204 kind of range is where i'd where i'd have them but i i did it did make me kind of want to make sure i'm getting like more ken walker and stuff yeah uh it's weird he like no discount on him in this draft he goes at his old price um let's see what the kick likes here is it going to make it like a yeah it might it might be double tight end which i'd be into hit the little refresh button on the bottom that'll get us new uh all right i'm gonna hang out i'm gonna run out of time so i'm just gonna put put my bride in uh yeah no i think it uh and actually put love we can do we can do mcbride um i didn't get that in time there if you make it like less long there's a little button if it gives you that again sorry man i'm uh i'm a grower yeah clearly yeah that little button usually usually uh last last time we did this it was uh a high wire uh act with the uh the double tight ends here uh but we'll see what we can do i mean this is a weird spot in the draft now rice comes off the board um you're down to the flowers to your love slides now with the injury i guess bruce hall i think is in the conversation here if you're not spooked about that but yeah what do you think about uh bowers mcbride here yeah i mean i think both can just absolutely crush and you know outscore the widers like outscore the wide receivers going in this range pretty easily so and bowers can outscore wide receivers you know aj brown was drafted at the 201 here bowers can outscore him so yeah i mean in some ways i think it's a little easier to do the bully tight end move with puka than it is with the running back because in round four we're gonna have access probably to a running back that we feel good about i mean etn did you notice etn went off at 205 that's that's why i made that comment it's yeah this this draft is funky genti still goes at 12 you mentioned travis achan there at 17 i guess the conversation always goes back to you wish knowing that mcbride is there i guess but you should know that mcbride's generally there at 20 mcbride's kind of there yeah i mean you could have gone nico neighbors for sure neighbors yeah or nico but yeah i mean i think it's just one of those things where like this isn't bad i don't think it's bad to have bauer mcbride teams both guys can just nuke um yeah you know well we will make it work here we start puka bowers mcbride thank you mr mr the five gifted memberships and congratulations on successfully maxing bbm via that last draft if you guys got a membership here from mr mr let him know thank you and uh feel free to join us for the bash on thursday we're gonna have the randomizer uh kick off at noon with rome from survivor and the flock league and then we'll do a couple of bash drafts going on here bill are we gonna have something thrown out here what's going on i don't like so yeah the the eight hole just went lamb travis hm breese hall in bill bill the the first one that will actually flag a giant adp leap hard to know if that's a q method or enthusiasm for bill i mean bill has had a good summer so don't throw this out you know i think he's a worthy pick a little earlier than we were taking him this early you know maybe not um i kick has burden here at the top i've been trying to get a little bit more burden i'm not gonna ikb off burden i'll tell you that much you know i'm trying to get more burden not less yes uh there we go we get burden here swift comes off the board uh yeah i'm trying to think of who else in this range i mean i mean i'm trying to think of who else in this range i mean i'm trying to think of who else in this range he was the other one i guess him and scatabo uh here did you are you buying that montgomery the 50 50 thing with marks that circulated last night or whatever no no i mean marks marks looked kind of good in that preseason run he was bouncing off people i was like okay that he showed me as much there as he did all last year almost but and you know he's a second year player he earned a big role as a rookie granted he's a second year player he's a second year player he's a second year player like kind of by accident because they didn't plan for not having joe mixon and then they brought in nick chubb who's totally cooked but still you know they could have played like to war jordan or whatever so it's not nothing cam scatabo in the fifth round seems pretty good yeah fifth round scatabo um yeah i mean he's i guess we had bucky and tootin all here we haven't had a chance to talk about that one either obviously they signed naji there's been some of the quotes like hey naji's gonna have a big role on this team yada yada i mean what should should scatabo be getting docked because of naji harris or is that is that an overreaction i think yeah i mean we we docked him a little um i think that you do have them i think both these situations actually the montgomery and scatabo situations are somewhat similar and that you have coaches saying and uh pepper tony mentions that there's been a ton of great coach speak uh we have we're greg flagged him to talk about the scatabo situation and talk about woody mark so we're gonna be talking about him and uh legendary coach speak uh right after this but i think in both cases i really don't want to like i don't need to go i don't need to wipe my memory and then go into this coach speak stuff i can still like have lived and i've lived in a world where naji harris wasn't very good got you didn't get a contract a second contract with a team that spent a first round pick on him and then he was achilles i just am i'm gonna be skeptic like sometimes i'll be wrong when i take these types of positions but i'm gonna be skeptical that naji harris can challenge anyone now tyrone tracy is challenging himself he's he's completely blown it and he's losing to himself he's losing to himself like he would he would lose work to devon singletary it doesn't matter like he's he's completely blown the opportunity but scatabo is a really good player and so while i think that harris could hurt a little bit i think he's a really good player and i think he's a really good because it's jim harbo and matt naggy like those guys are dumb enough to do some dumb stuff so they could limit scatabo's role they could have naji harris playing like a long down and distance role in probably an ineffective way but still like we want as many snaps for scatabo as possible so i think it could hurt a bit i i'm just not gonna like they can say extremely nice things every day until week one it's not gonna change that naji's probably cooked you know like if we see him if we're getting from beats and we're getting videos and we're getting him getting a ton of first team reps then obviously that would like change my mind to an extent but i'd still be like a little skeptical relative to that drum beat like really is this really happening you know that kind of thing but i we'd move on it of course but it's not enough for me just to like oh the coach is really like woody marks and stuff like that's cool and i don't have as much of a uh a sample size that woody marks can't play so i you know it makes me a little more nervous on montgomery but it's not something i'm i'm you know fundamentally shifting on can we ikb to stevenson here with the um did you see the hendo stuff that just popped up yeah i did early and that's not we haven't we haven't put anything in for that we flagged it we haven't adjusted stevenson i was kind of surprised he lasted all the way here um again i think he's just a good pick in this range yeah i'm with you um and then you're gonna free roll you're gonna free roll kind of the the hendo uncertainty right now obviously like daniels as well but this seems like a chance where i just think remandre is going to be a fifth round pick uh like the rest of the way once the the hendo stuff comes out yeah i think you're probably right um i keep hearing that harbaugh is dumb take i don't know i mean i think harbaugh seems washed is maybe a better word than dumb i think he probably was a decent coach at one point but he seems pretty washed um i will say for the double tight end to be able to get scatabo at 52 remandre at 69 we can now get one of the steelers running backs potentially here uh i think we're set up pretty solid yeah and i do like warren here yeah there was uh there's been some buzz on on rico it was funny to read i read like two really strong takes uh you know leone was all in he had a nice tweet about rico and why he thought he was under pressure and he was like i don't know i don't know i don't know and then sean comes out with a zero rb countdown and has uh jaylen warren i think did he have him two or one it was it was up there um and made the strong case maybe it was three whatever he he loved uh jaylen warren this year as well i mean he's been a guy that's just been in this range forever has never been able to like fully deliver on the kind of austin eckler like upside where you know he has the profile to deliver like round two round one running back value um how are you thinking about him you know vis-a-vis rico yeah i mean sean got me excited on on warren even earlier this offseason when uh you know he was he said basically out of the after like the kind of the clear stud running backs are off the board warren is probably the most talented running back in the league like oh that's fun to hear uh i guess for some reason he didn't mention keaton mitchell there but um you know jaylen warren is really good and i think does a lot of things well he catches the ball really well and he's got a lot of things um he passed protects really well and he's like a dude who actually runs well between the tackles and everything because he's he packs a punch even though he's a small guy even though he's he's short in stature he's you know he's he's built so dowdle has been an underrated player as well a guy that i've like been loading up on like he was he was a underpriced borderline league winner two years in a row uh that i was very much in on so not a guy i want to fade you know but also you know kind of does what he does like the reason he's been underpriced is because he's not a particularly exciting back he's more of like a two down runner type of guy and i think warren offers just a bit more upside as someone who can really catch passes in a potentially special way if he's got that all to himself this year with kenny gainwell gone he has a chance to you know a zero in the passing game so we'll see how the split breaks out but if warren really owns the receiving side of this then you know you know like a bucky irving you know you know complimentary kind of kind of thing is also i think in play where i don't need all of it you know he's going to seed some work but he's just really talented he's explosive he's you know he's able to have chunk gains he's able to take a little dump off and get eight nine yards out of it you know fairly consistently like he's he's he can be used at the goal line you know like there's there's a lot of for warren to pay off in the seventh round can i talk you into worthy first yes i think i think that's fine yeah i'm just thinking here too with the because there are some solid quarterback options we have the dart we have the dart out of bow dart won't come back probably because of the neighbors drafter being on the other side but that's okay and then we have daniel's okay and then the borough drafters with nick yeah so the rice drafter has daniel's though so that's a little bit of cover also the one hole here okay chase alave pickens adam goes dark this guy is not taking a running back through nine routes there's pits man people are firing these picks and it's really wow the drafts have been going fast uh this morning for sure all right michael let me reward me for trying to push uh and let me get my homes here please well he could use a running back so thank you there we go called that all right my homes perfect nice call pete you know we're trying i mean it was a little risky with the rice drafter right behind us but uh they they wanted to lock up that running back there uh why is this draft not going through why uh no this draft is fine it guys the the bill pick like you need about like five picks like this to get a draft thrown out um pete is now making his first draft and he's making his first draft and he's making his first draft and he's excited no we've it's i've just been i don't want naked my home so when i get worthy uh i get i get very excited to uh to stack him up there and i think on this team where we did go with the two elite tight ends we have puka burden being able to get worthy here before there is kind of a tear break um into this next range where we'd pick at 117 uh i i feel really good about it do you think we'll have another homes argument because i've just i i realized a take that i couldn't that i hadn't said all summer um and i'm feeling regretful you know that i didn't in the homes wars which have mostly subsided you know we've um maybe i should save this for adp chasing maybe i'll get jacob riled up because he's really been my foil i i've made you draft my homes a lot well actually you gotta let you gotta let it rip because uh you guys are drafting tomorrow so you might not get a chance that's true my home's take all right let's let's look at who we're gonna pick here and then i'll and i have a question for you all right here's the team so far one three three two we do have the uh the brock bowers mcbride we have three wide receivers now puka burden and worthy we did stack up worthy with my homes we also have burden at wide receiver and then we have the three running backs scatabo remandre and jaylen warren if you are stribbling about stribbling he went at 113 here we're two picks away uh nicks hanging out on the board did you want it casey i wanted casey yeah yep yep yep um i do like bow nicks a lot but i'm also fine if we just want to keep pushing running i'm good with bow nicks if you want to because i think well What do you think? Will we get one of these running backs back is kind of the question. I think so. All right. Let's take Knicks then. Aaron Jones has been kind of chilling. Yeah, that's true. He's normally here. Yeah, this draft out of the one hole does need running back help. I would say he does, considering he has zero. I don't want to get too carried away, but I think he probably could take a running back. He went Menungai and Rashad White. The drafters behind us went Kittle and Myers here. We'll be able to get a running back. But, man, this draft is ripping. It really is, man. It's really. We could squeeze in another one just in case this one gets thrown out. We can do Jones here. Jones, yeah. Yeah, I mean, I think Jones, you know, you're kind of like using him to help fill out the room. It's not the most exciting pick of all time. But Skadaboo, as we talked about, the Harris stuff, like one reason that I don't get too worried about, especially on the Skadaboo Harris one is cleaner than the Marks Montgomery one because Marks is actually the young player. Montgomery's the old player. He could maybe he's maybe he's kind of looking cooked. And that's why Marks looks looks good. You know what I mean? So, but with Skadaboo, one reason that I'm willing to kind of go against coach speak on this type of stuff is a lot of times we're hearing about what the early season might look like, you know, and what they're seeing. And like joint practices and these like various, you know, simulated game situations that they do. Well, you know what beats that games, real games. Like if we get into real games and Skadaboo is clearly better than Najee Harris, which I think will be true day one and will be more and more true as he puts more time, you know, between that injury. Um, I think he's gonna, I think he's gonna dust Najee over the course of the season. So we get, you know, a guy like Aaron Jones and Ramon Dre potentially to some extent. Um, although he could just hold the job, but you know, those guys are going to help in the beginning of the year. You have some upside with Skadaboo to really emerge as just an absolute hammer down the stretch. Um, so, you know, I think Jones has utility in a room like this where you have a player that, yeah, maybe Scott, maybe Scott was like a really annoying fifth round pick even because of Harris. Um, for the first half of the year. Yeah. But I, I don't think by the end. Yeah. And the other thing I'll say about Skadaboo too, it's like, you know, he was always kind of like, I think a risky like round four pick, but he has the, the skillset in the profile. I mean, you're writing about legendary upside, like a guy who catches passes and has a lock on goal line work in the higher end outcomes where everybody stays healthy, where the offense in New York is competent. Neighbors is cooking. Like he can score like a round two running back, like very. Very easily with how he plays football. Yes. And he, he has jumped out. So I'm going to write up the running backs in that range too. And he's really jumped out as just his profile. And, you know, then I kind of dig in and I create the scenarios and everything of exactly how these guys would get there. And his, his stuff's reasonably easy. Like it's just a high value touch. A profile is, is really nice. Um, all right, let's take marks. Yeah. I was going to say, I was really. Coach speak on this guy. He's been awesome. I mean, I was really hoping Coleman or Rodriguez made it back to us. Yeah, me too. But, uh, we'll grab Woody marks here. Yeah. Now that the, the coach speak is so good. Yeah. Uh, we still have to get to your, your, my home steak too. Oh, right. Right. Um, well, I kind of gave it away cause it's, it's, it's supposed to be a, a covert home steak, but here it is. So if, if Drake may scores exactly the same. Same amount of points that he did last year. Do you think he'll be a good pick or a bad pick where he's currently going? Uh, the exact same amount. I mean, my gut says that it would be like a slightly bad pick. What if he was going in the, in the ninth round? Hey God, let's make this a pick here. Uh, I'm good with Keenan. I think Keenan fits the team. Well, it's a thinner receiver. Yeah. Uh, all right. Yeah. I think we do need Keenan on a team with only three wide receivers here. So wait, you are saying that, uh, what if Drake may was going in the ninth round, but you, but you knew you were just getting last year. Okay. That seems like it'd be a good pick. Okay. Do you know that my homes and Drake may score the exact same number of points last year? I knew that. I knew that's where, I guess when you set up a, my home steak with Drake, that's where it was always going. It's just been like one of the, I've been trying to like find ways to communicate. Like I'm not betting on some amazing chiefs bounce back season. I'm just betting they'll like kind of do what they did last year. And my homes is healthier than people seem to insist that he is, even though he clear he's clearly healthy. Like he's doing all the things, you know, um, it's, it's the rushing, right? That's what everybody comes back. That's what everyone goes back to, but he's not getting those rushing points. Like, first of all, you don't know that. He's running around in camp. He's run. He's literally running in camp right now today. So I'm pretty sure actually I might've wrapped, but whatever the point remains, the, uh, he's been, he's been quite active, you know, uh, he's not just a statue back there. So you're going to get some rushing. Maybe you won't get what you got last year, but then you do have the potential for the enemy to, you know, bring a little bit. I mean, it's, the bar is low from Matt Nagy, right? So he, the offense is humming. They'll just, uh, just that little bit more. You have Xavier worthy, healthy Cyrus Allen seems to be, you know, a good wide receiver for at the very least, but potentially the wide receiver three to close the year. He has a good connection with my homes. Ken Walker had some explosiveness to the screen game, which, you know, my homes gets points for that too. So I just, it's like, yeah, like maybe he doesn't run as much, but like you're, you win. Like if he does what he did last year through a slightly different. Uh, slightly different means you clearly win. And then also like it's my homes. So what if he does recapture some of his previous form, which really doesn't seem like that hard of a thing to me. I mean, the chiefs, the chiefs clearly had a down year last year. They missed the playoffs. You know, this was, this is a juggernaut team that had an off season, an off season. Of course they could bounce back, but I don't even need them to fully bounce back. I need them to like, kind of. Be what they did last year and I win. So I don't know. It's unfortunate. We can't get, we can't get a guy like Pat Bryant to come back anymore to one 65 on a bow. Next team. Uh, yeah, that is a bummer. We got, that's partly why I liked the next pick too. Yeah. The, um, uh, I'm trying to think 80 P wise here. Yeah. Hunter, you want to grab him? Let's grab Hunter, man. All right. Let's do it. People. Riled up on Hunter, but it's like Myers is, is already banged up. You know, he's, he's going to have a role in offense. I know he's, he's a, he's a very good cornerback too. Myers is banged up. I miss this. It looks minor, but he was wearing like a wrist sleeve. Okay. Uh, like, uh, it was a brace. So he had like, it looked like maybe he jammed his thumb or something. It doesn't look like anything super serious. Weiss. What's this guy's name again? Theo Weiss. Theo Weiss. Theo Weiss going at pick one 70. What is going on? Every other pick on this drafter was like pretty reasonable. And then took Theo Weiss at one 70. Huh? Uh, I was hoping 80, we could get both 80 Mitchell and Hunter and 80 comes back here. Yeah. Let's do it. Um, yeah. Pepper Tony's not buying my take because he got injured and publicly stated. He'll run less. Who? On Jacoby? Mahomes. Oh, Mahomes. Oh, sorry. We're African. So it didn't work. I was, I was trying to. People just, people don't, they don't care. Okay. Uh, uh, yeah. Why take Luther Burton at the four or five turn when you can take Theo Weiss? Uh, here's our squad so far. So we did start out with those two tight ends. Um, I mean, look at these quarterbacks. We got Mahomes and Bo Nix. We got Brock Bowers and Trey McBride running back room. Got rounded out. Scadabo, Ramondre, Warren, Aaron Jones, Woody Marks. And then we've been catching up at wide receiver after Puka in burden early. We grabbed Xavier worthy, Keenan Allen, Travis Hunter, 80 Mitchell. I like how this one's coming together. I do too. I do too. You, you, I mean, obviously with elite tight end, you get, you know, you're going to be a little thinner at the running back and receiver positions. Double elite tight ends guaranteed, but getting fifth round Scadabo. Um, and then we got like the receivers. I think you need to, to make this work with, along with the stacked worthy, which is, which is pretty fun. And then the Puka kind of anchor receiver element is nice. And the running back room. I mean, Ramondre things could, like you're saying, I mean, he could end up in the fifth round in a week or even sooner, depending on what this Henderson thing is. So, yeah, I mean, the whole, the teams come together pretty well. Yes. And I mean, there, there's still like, it, it is harder to get values on wide receivers. I mean, Cyrus Allen goes one 53. We don't even have a chance to have that conversation. Jacoby Lane goes two picks ahead of when we took Allen. And I think Jacoby Lane's a great pick. But just the value definitely getting sucked out of the room. Pat Bryant goes one 60. so he didn't have a chance to stack that up. Here's one for you because I just literally saw this tweet and we were talking about it earlier. Dolphins wide receiver Chris Bell practiced fully without a red jersey today. Is Bell on the menu at all for you? So part of the thing for me with Bell is I wasn't that high on Bell as a prospect, but I think as like an 18th round pick, he's probably in the mix now, yeah. Is this a Ridley team get another Keenan type pick? It probably is. Yeah, I know he's not the most fun click, but, you know, as we said. Got to make the double tight end work. So we grab Ridley there. So now we go after only three wide receivers through eight rounds, Keenan, Hunter, A.D. Mitchell, Ridley, which are like the two perfect chaperones for Travis Hunter and A.D. Mitchell. Exactly. In this draft, if you want to know how a zero RB experiment works, it involves Menangai, Rashad White, Spears, Dylan Sampson, Brian Robinson, Emmett Johnson, and Justice Hill. Sidekick likes going with our third QB here to stack up A.D. Mitchell, and I'm always on board for three QBs. Let's see. Yeah, and I mean, the one thing, too, with Travis Hunter, probably Yosh mentioned that he's kind of a falling knife right now, which I have noticed him dropping. But it's like, yeah, falling present. I like that. But, you know, it's really about opportunity costs in these final rounds. And for him to be going, you know, in the 14th round, the next receiver off the board, Pete, was Theo Weiss. Yeah. When you put it that way, I mean, the whole thing, too. I mean, we've had the conversation about Travis Hunter all year, and I've tried to drill. No, I just wanted to make a Theo Weiss joke. No, no. Well, I was just even going to say, like, it literally is a contingent running back bet as a wide receiver at this point. That's at the worst case scenario. That's like setting aside, like, any standalone value whatsoever, which I think there is going to be standalone value. I don't think he's going to play 0% of the offensive snaps this year. But even then, like you said, he's going to have a huge role increase if there's any injuries there. I think on teams like this, there's two, again, trying to make it work. Like, you have to take some swings at wide receiver, and Travis Hunter still represents one of those swings. Yeah, I think with Travis Hunter as well, like, the way I try to think about this stuff is that there's only so much that you can learn from any part of, you know, the type of analysis you're doing. Like, we can learn a lot from looking at these guys' college profiles, but we can't learn everything, you know? It still matters what they do in training camp and stuff. It still matters what the coaches are saying. It still matters, like, they're lining up and what they're doing. But, like, just focusing, if you only focused on preseason, you would draft horrible teams. Like, if all you focused on was, like, if you didn't have any priors coming in, and you literally just focused on what was happening in the preseason, your teams would suck, right? Like, you didn't know anything about previous seasons or prospect profiles or whatever. Like, it can't tell you everything. So, you know, being able to keep in mind some important fundamental details, which I think are really important, really key with a guy like Hunter, you know, is a pretty big edge if the market's not going to do that. What do you think this team needs more? 3-5-7-2, Singleton, RB6, or. I like both these picks a ton, so I'm kind of down with whoever you like here. I'm a little lighter on Singleton. I always think it's interesting. Because, like, the sidekick generally doesn't love the thinner running back play, so it's always interesting when one of them does pop up there. Agreed, and we're to six running backs now, which is, you know, something we talked about, right? We're going to get a little more outside the comfort of hyper-fragile as we move into later August. And it's still a build I find myself doing, but less often and with more variety. Yep. Yeah, Singleton. And, I mean, why do you think Singleton bubbles up there maybe more so than some of the. some of the other backs? Obviously, you have guys like Sean Tucker, Katron Allen. I took McGowan in a draft earlier with things looking a little bit better for him, but why do you think Singleton kind of clears some of these other backs? Like a Claiborne as well, who's, you know, a rookie in a three-way backfield. I think Singleton has a nice mix of, you know, floor where he has not been. He's been, like, clearly the running back three there all summer. Not been a challenge from one of these other backs. He hasn't, you know, looked like too much of a rookie to get out there. That's not true of a guy like Claiborne. You know, there's been talk of Xavier Scott being the running back three there, not Claiborne. So, you have, like, the, hey, is this guy even, like, does he matter? Katron Allen has been a little bit up and down in that regard. I think he's the running back three, but, you know, they talk about Robert Henry and stuff. They have Mick Nichols. I don't know if he'll make the final 53 or what, but. They'll be able to bring him back if they need to. Like, if Rashad White went down, I bet you Jeremy Mick Nichols would be back. Right? So, it's not as clean from, like, a contingent perspective with Allen in that way. Singleton, I think it is cleaner from a contingent value perspective. If Spears or Pollard went down, I think he'd have a pretty significant role. The other thing about Singleton, though, is what if those guys don't go down, but he's just better than them by the end of the year? And that's where I think he, compared to a guy like Seth McGowan, who's obviously a lot more draftable now, he looks like the RB2 in Indy, but he's not passing Jonathan Taylor, obviously, you know? And so, Singleton is one of those guys who, at the end of the season, could be, like, a 1A type of back without an injury, which is very appealing. You know, those are kind of hard to find right now in the later rounds. I think he. It's thin, but it is a realistic possibility. All right, let's recap this. Team here, now that it is in the books, I believe this is, yeah, the second McBride-Bowers team that we have done on stream here. The first time we did it, everybody went crazy, like, are you allowed to do that? I don't think you're allowed to do that. This time, it was just like, oh, yeah, I guess that's a thing you can do. Let's see here. We ended up with a 3-6-7-2. I'll label this Elite. Tight end. Actually, it's not going to let me do that. I'll do tight end times two. There we go. Here's the team, Pat. Mahomes, Bo Nix, and Geno Smith. Scadabo, Ramondre, Jalen Warren, Aaron Jones, Woody Marks, Nicholas Singleton, Puka, Burden, Worthy, Keenan, Travis Hunter, Adonai Mitchell, Calvin Ridley, and, of course, Brock Bowers and Trey McBride. We weren't able to get Bo Nix stacked up, but at pick 117, hard to complain about that. How do you feel about this one? I like it. I think it's a team that, you know, when you get into those situations, we know that the Elite tight end can be huge for that. You know, we've seen Mark Andrews be massive chalk. George Kittle's taken down multiple BBMs now. Having that guy who can score like other guys cannot score at the tight end position is pretty big. If you get, you know, some ping-ponging of weeks of Bowers and McBride, that can do stuff like stacking, where it's like that single-week element, right? So this isn't like the most stacked team, but we have Worthy. And Mahomes. So Worthy and Mahomes hitting together in week 17 plus one of these tight ends, I feel pretty awesome about that as a path. The Geno, Adonai Mitchell stack, I think, is kind of more fun than anything else. And then Bo Nix not stacked. Those guys primarily are to get us to the final, right? When we get to the final, we're going to be looking at Mahomes and Worthy and one of maybe both. I mean, could you imagine if both of these tight ends smashed and you kind of needed both of them? I mean, that would be pretty good. So we've got a path here in week 17. If we flip this team over in week 17, it's one I'd be excited to see. You can see how it takes the whole thing down. Yeah, it's funny, too, because this would typically be, you know, the running back dead zone. I guess you could still call it the running back dead zone there. But getting the discount on Scadabo and Ramondre and then getting guys like Warren and Jones, who I think have outs to, you know, both a ton. A standalone value. But then you also get just the respective contingent value if something happens to a Rico or Mason where those guys, we know those are the kind of guys who can take on an expanded role. That's not Jaden Blue having to seed a bunch of carries to, you know, Malik Davis if Javante goes down. Like those could be bell cows and then take some speculative bets there on Woody 50-50 marks and Nicholas Singleton. So, yeah, I think, you know, you come out with just burden through 90 picks, but Worthy, Allen, Hunter, Adonai, Mitchell, Calvin Ridley, I think this is just a good idea. This is just a solid team. Yeah, and I mean, one thing to think about too is that you're looking at like this team is probably just filling the three receiver spots most weeks rather than the flex because when you go bully tight end, part of the bet is McBride is going to outscore the wide receivers going in this range such that you'd just rather have them in your flex than those wide receivers. And then you have enough running back depth, I think, that we could also be filling the flex through the running back when we don't have big weeks from the tight ends you know if we get some hits you know Stevenson, Skadaboo, Warren like those guys could be and then and then Jones mixing in you could potentially be filling three running back spots reasonably consistently especially if we get hits from Marks and Singleton obviously but we've got depth at the running back position and then the tight end is going to fill the flex a bunch so the receiver position just has like less weight to carry than it typically does and it's really I think about getting those three high scoring receivers most weeks then a lot of teams you really want that to be four I was going to see if I could scroll through and find uh the I assume I labeled it double tight end here uh here we go there this was on June 8th uh we had a Burrow Cam Ward Mendoza again Skadaboo oh this is where we went really thin at running back Skadaboo Ward which that's where we went really thin at running back Skadaboo Ward which that's where we went that's funny that we have both those guys here again Jonathan Brooks at 99 and then just a late round Sean Tucker we had Chase Waddle worthy again Dobbs Concepcion Travis Hunter again Ridley again Tank Dell and then of course uh Bowers McBride Gesicki to the stacked Gesicki the stacked Gesicki yeah the reason people freaked out about this one was because of how thin our running back room was here but talk about what it doesn't look that thin like yeah you know because I mean because the Brooks stuff is has gone in the right there getting 99 pick 99 Brooks like it's not as thin as it looked then um and then we have yeah Chase Waddle worthy Dobbs do we have Concepcion on this team you said yes we do Concepcion yeah I mean so this team it's the it's the flip right where it's like reverse that running back yeah running back we just need two running backs we only need two running back scores every week we we are getting flex from receiver and tight end like that's the running back room's not about the flex for this one and the other one the wide receiver room is not really about the flex so that's I think the thing with these double elite tight end rooms is is just thinking through and they're both three quarterback builds which is uh kind of fun so and and stacked with Bowers here with Mendoza which could be pretty sweet yeah and ATX asked why Gesicki I I remember this draft well one it was stacked in two you got to remember back in June guys like Emmett Johnson Mike Washington a we had so little clarity on these late round running backs that the sidekick was not suggesting um really thin running back bets uh there so it was one of those things where once the good running backs were off the board it just kept saying hey we're not going to make a bad pick strength yeah strengthen your strengths there um and then you get that uh obviously you look at this build and you're like yeah it would be nice to have a a fifth running back but the way the draft broke uh there weren't any that were particularly strong bets there at the end yeah and if you did get now the Gesicki stuff hasn't been great since right he's Eric Hall's had a really nice summer he's probably gonna have a lot of time to do that so I think it's gonna be a good time to have you know a smaller role than we were hoping Gesicki I mean so you know in in that sense it's not such a great pick but from a structural perspective like you do a stacked Gesicki with burrow could get you through week 15 or something without either of these tight ends doing a ton um and so that's like a you know a kind of intriguing way to to have like a little bit more of a unique double elite tight end team um and then the other thing like on the Singleton pick someone commented you know Titans Titans third string running back neat which you know like fair enough but to your point of not taking the the running backs then like we didn't know for sure he was the third string running he could have been the fourth string or not make the team so that's like where I pick like Gesicki we would have liked less if we had all the information that we have now but it's the type of pick that you know um it's better than just like taking one of these like total it's better than finding DJ Giddens on here you know what I mean that's kind of that's what I'm trying to say yep um reefer King has dropped this question in the chat a couple times in the late 13th early 14th finding myself between guys like Tucker McMillan Flournoy Bryant Harrison a vacuum which five of these is your favorite I'll say this this would be a spot where I wouldn't be anchored to ADP specifically with guys like McMillan and Tucker and Flournoy have just been there all year like this is a spot where I'm like you know is Jacoby Lane there yeah I was gonna mention Lane yeah who I like but these guys that weren't getting drafted and we've had this conversation a bunch where at this stage like this is truly when ADP ceases to be a predictor a fantasy performance uh you can scroll to get those stacks like 80 Mitchell like you can bounce around I like Trey Harris and Pat Bryant those that would be my answer to your question of the two guys I would be most interested in there but I would say I would not be beholden to ADP in that range completely agree you can have a guy and this is backed up by The Sims 2 like when we when we adjust stuff on Jacoby Lane you know he's popping in the 15th round 14th round um and same with Pat Bryant you know we would have been psyched if Pat Bryant came back to us where we took who do we take Keenan maybe or or Hunter um but yeah I mean it's it's just not that big a difference between I mean it might be like one dollar in an auction draft versus two frankly it might be one dollar versus also one dollar depending on where you know the the rise takes a guy if you're still into the 15th or 16th that's still kind of a dollar player so I agree with you I mean it's the ADP isn't the the reason to factor in ADP at that point is do you think you can get this guy later and get someone else that you also really like here um but in some ways that's like one reason to push a guy like uh like Travis Hunter I was pushing Omar Cooper um before he flipped Isaiah Williams again which does you know it's like no can we like think on that for a second because like that just as a reminder that this stuff is fundamentally a little silly you know like Isaiah Williams is ahead of Omar Cooper we didn't draft Omar Cooper like we lowered Omar Cooper on that but not a ton you know we still wanted him when he was then gonna fall you know it's more like yeah let's let him fall around and then take him still you know right but like so much of this stuff that we currently think is massive like signal is not you know it's just stuff that happened in August and it's not that there isn't signal in it there definitely is you don't want to ignore the preseason but like it's it's also going to be noisy there's like no there's a lot of noisy bullshit happening too so if you just like accept everything you're hearing is like fact and indicative of what we're going to see the whole season uh I just don't I just don't think that's the way to do it yeah and I mean it's like if you give you give the market a chance to uh another reason to punish a jet or a brown or a titan oh yeah they're gonna take it like you're gonna take it like you're gonna give us any excuse there I mean part of my thing I was talking about this with Sam too where it's like I I had so much Omar Cooper early too that it's almost like a a portfolio element as well where it's like okay I am willing to catch up on Jacoby Lane who I was behind for sure you know get more Cyrus Allen I did make the distinction to to Sam though that I want to sever how I feel about my Omar Cooper best ball bags from the redraft thing because he still is the exact kind in bin prices in our main event drafts where it's like I'm not going to punish Omar Cooper for my best ball sins early on when I think he still represents the best asymmetrical bet in round 18 of an FFPC main which we're going to be faced with that a decent amount over the next couple of weeks by the way your sins I don't know are that sinful I mean I think getting Omar Cooper where we got him is good and would would do again like if yeah it's like you can't you can't like completely predict how all these things are going to happen and it's like you can't you can't predict how all these players prices are going to go throughout the whole summer so like yeah like maybe you'd rather have a little less Cooper when he's the most expensive and have come you know loaded up when he was the cheapest but like also probably doesn't really matter that much because the difference between his price at the highest and the price of the lowest from that same opportunity cost perspective that you just laid out with like Jacoby Lane like he was going higher but not what I don't think he was ever more than like a 12th round pick maybe 11th round pick no for for a first round pick he was always extremely cheap and then he got unbelievably cheap there for a minute but like you don't know who what players did you pair him with is is so much more important than did you get him in the 17th or the 12th like there is some difference between those two things but potentially not that much and then did you get him in that period where you were also getting Jonathan Brooks like did you take Jonathan Brooks and then Omar Cooper at the 11 12 turn because that'd be cool you know and I don't regret that so it's really just a matter of um yeah like did you and did you also take someone he was super cheap like I did you know so you know it's always a bummer when the the price stuff goes against you right and it did with Cooper and it looked like it was going to go really against us and maybe not as much now that he was ahead of Isaiah Williams but ultimately like a 12th round Cooper team could could clearly win like that's that's not like a bad spot to be in for sure and it's like um it's a more micro example of what we talk about when it feels gross clicking Khalil Shakir because he burned you as a round six pick versus being around 12 it's like the same thing it feels gross clicking Omar Cooper because he burned you from a CLV perspective when you were clicking him in round 12 but now you could get him in round 16 that's a very different a very different bet yeah it's it's different it's not I don't even know if it's like very different it's annoying not very it's it's yeah it's it's definitely annoying because you're like wow I could have there's guys that were in round 12 that moved up that I wasn't taking and so you can there's like regret to it of like damn like I could be higher on you know when Diggs was going there I could have loaded up on Diggs more or you know what if I took Cooper directly instead of Brooks there's probably I would probably find boards where Brooks was available and I took Cooper you know that that'll that'll hurt you know but it's really like that's why the difference in price is really does have some some importance because of you know the guys the opportunity cost was potentially quite a bit higher depending on the draft but yeah ultimately it's it's not like he was at eighth or ninth round pick you know all right Pat we got a big week with main event drafts and I know you have a show here with coach speak I just hit you with the the redirect that's happening here at 2 p.m eastern what are you guys going to be digging into today some Woody Marks is a big one um and then talking Jonah Coleman uh which is which is uh you know a winner from the preseason for sure uh Casey Concepcion we're going to dive into we're going to dive into the Chris Bell stuff uh Keenan Allen um some of the stuff around uh the Patriots uh with he had actually flagged Travion Henderson before this uh you know he left practice so there's some interesting coach speak on that situation as well um he's got some stuff on Clint Kubiak in the wide receiver room so yeah a ton of ton of great coach speak that we're going to dive into uh and then uh yeah draft a team as well yep uh and like I said earlier uh tune in tomorrow night so in lieu of the normal ADP chasing show they're going to be drafting a main event team so that show will be 30 minutes earlier than the normal 7 30 start time but you get to watch the crew draft a team and I'll just ADP chasing draft uh dare I say was a movie pure cinema it was the travel uh the Travion Henderson early the bill early and I'll tell you right now Mike Shope is in the group chat he wants to have discussions he wants to plan ahead no one is giving him any kind of discussion it's going to be panic and chaos again tomorrow night I can tell you that much Pat you know I'm right I saw Shope was like all right guys can we seriously have a discussion like we need to talk through our plan and then you're like the draft hasn't filled up the draft hasn't filled up the draft because it was like we thought it had filled and it hadn't filled I just chuckled I was like well when the draft fills we can see if the discussion unfolds but uh I don't know there's something about to me like it's ADP chasing isn't it supposed to be kind of chaotic like it would be chaotic you guys could do three three hour calls in advance of this and it would still be chaotic I understand wanting to talk through some things but it will be chaotic it's gonna be chaotic like there's no way for it not to be chaotic it's gonna be chaotic it's gonna be chaotic it's gonna be not to be chaotic no it will be so yeah tune in for that Thursday with crack rock you want to talk about chaos uh there will be chaos there as well um all right good stuff guys I told you my rest of week 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